#The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

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umbral nebula
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I didn't feel like hunting Big Poes, Adult fishing, and bouncing around grottos. and the last 50 skulltulas,

red torrent
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yeah big poes was lame af

wheat leaf
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I've hit 60 skulltulas without seeking any out. But that's where I'll stay for now

umbral nebula
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I only really had to go out of my way for one when I was at 49 and only needed one more heart piece to complete a heart.

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But yeah, for me at least, OoT sticks around as a top 3 3D Zelda for me. With Majora's Mask and Wind Waker.

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Which is amusing, even though I grew up playing OoT, first played it when I was 4, I always put it near the bottom for 3D Zeldas.

It wasn't until I was in my 20s and had replaced Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword more that I really appreciated Ocarina of Time's own strengths in comparison to the others'.

red torrent
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yeah i think im at that point now. it was the first zelda i actually finished i think and then i was like "oh the other ones are better" but now im less sure lol. need to replay MM tho

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i did wind waker recently and i never liked it that much and i still stand by that honestly. like its not awful but its whatever

forest walrus
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I never even played LoZ games when I was a kid. My best friend was a big fan of the series though.
I didn't become interested until I was an adult. I played Twilight Princess on the Wii in my early 20's, and then I played the original LoZ, Link's Awakening, and Ocarina of Time on 3DS.

umbral nebula
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Honestly the 3DS version of OoT is probably what had me start to turn my thoughts around on the game.

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It's when replays of the game for me really started happening.

wheat leaf
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I actually really liked WW. I'm 3/4 through BOTW and should finish it sometime

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But my first Zelda was the original in the late 80s. I used to just beat it in one shot when I had plenty of time to kill as a kid

umbral nebula
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I'm also not really factoring in BotW and TotK. They're a pretty big departure compared to previous 3D Zeldas. I still loved 'em though. Just very different.

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Can't wait for BotW3 in 2030.

wicked hull
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Wind Waker is tops for me, but OoT and MM are close seconds. Oracle of Seasons is up there, and I never played the 3DS one but heard good things.

red torrent
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link between worlds is fantastic but i wish it wasnt such a direct sequel to a link to the past lol. would have been better with a more original overworld. the dungeons rule tho

wicked hull
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Zelda is arguably my favorite franchise, but my handheld exposure to the series outside of GBC is lacking.

faint storm
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Replaying OoT actually made me like it less I think

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Not even in the "this game is shit" sense so much as just, it really is a product of its time, in a way that isn't helpful to how well it holds up. It was a stepping stone to greater things with historical value, but it is not those greater things itself.

wicked hull
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SoH helps, I only just started but fuck are the improvements worth it.

faint storm
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It genuinely helps, but my issue with OoT isn't just the technical limitations but... I've said this a million times, but it has one real big idea, and that's "what if Zelda were 3D."

wicked hull
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It's such a seminal piece of media.

faint storm
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I was actually at a meet-up for gamers at my college yesterday and I got taken to task over giving that criticism to OoT, because the exact same thing is true of Super Mario 64: Super Mario 64 is just "what if Mario but 3D," and SM64 is one of the best platformers ever.

faint storm
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This is arguably a "me" thing though. I'm not going to tell you you're full of shit for loving it

wicked hull
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That's honestly the crux of this server. Playing these games after the fact, having the knowledge of modern games, makes it so that the lens we view them through is definitely skewed, but I still appreciate the effort here.

faint storm
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Legit

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I still think the whole "what if 3D" isn't as strong for Zelda as it is for Mario. The Zelda experience isn't as defined by things like satisfying controls as something like Mario is. Mario is "you came to jump, so jump," and so it doesn't necessarily need big ideas so much as it needs execution. Zelda kind of benefits from bigger ideas

wicked hull
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OoT is legit "Hey, we're in 3D, let's do some shit" and some of it doesn't hold up.

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But the stuff that does is a marvel for its time.

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Seeing it through the lens of Sozh is impressive. Mostly just a coat of paint and some QoL improvements, but still amazing.

wheat leaf
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I'm pretty impressed with SoH though, I need to see how the Mario 64 port is, especially on the deck

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I will say that even though I played OoT at its release I did think it was just fine. Same as I do today. So I was there at the beginning and it was still not some life changing game for me

nimble maple
forest walrus
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I think so, yeah. 50 Gold Skulltulas is the last time that you get anything valuable from collecting them.

zinc plover
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The rest of the skulltulas is useless padding. It was fun finding them and all. It was a huge let down for the last prize.

wheat leaf
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Even the last cursed skulltula is like ehz don't bother really, it's fine

faint storm
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Like there's a lot I appreciate about Super Mario 64 playing it now going on 30 years after I first played it

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I didn't feel quite the same way about OoT, though there are a few things that stand out (like the story I told about the comparison between the Well and the Shadow Temple)

dark smelt
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Done with Spirit Temple, are gerudo training grounds necessary to do? I see it listed in the guide, but bo info if I can skip it

red torrent
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no totally optional

dark smelt
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Great, then I should finish tomorrow

wheat leaf
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I'm at the big boss door in Ganon's castle.. guess this is it?

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I was super frustrated with the castle last night. But that's what happens when you forget to get fire arrows

nimble maple
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Oh so ganon’s castle is a big temple like the others ?

wheat leaf
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Not really

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6 mini challenges

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All done!

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Start of the tower to end credits is maybe an hour

nimble maple
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Nice I think I’ll make it !!!

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First thing first : let’s go to the boss room of spirit temple

wicked hull
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Nearly done with JabuJabu, should be able to finish this by Tuesday night.

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Spent more time on side items than the actual story, but no interest in gold skulltullas after 50

oblique radish
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I hate the horse with the every fibre of my being.

oblique radish
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Pretty annoying to control. I suspect the 3DS slider isn't doing me any favours here either.

urban temple
wheat leaf
quasi yew
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These controls are rough to come back to. I don't remember Z-targeting being this ass

torn fulcrum
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The finale castle barrier rooms look bad but they are all pretty much silly little puzzles

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Am I supposed to be able to do anything against Ganondorf?

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Hes only doing the slam attack. And theres no platforms left

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And shielding, hoverboots, etc don't seem to do anything to avoid it

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HE LITERALLY WONT USE THE ENERGY ORB ATTACK.
Had to look it up because I felt crazy

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Man, this game makes me so irrationally angry with its design

fierce lion
forest walrus
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So many of you guys have experienced issues with OoT that I never have, or at least not nearly to the extent that you guys have. 😛

torn fulcrum
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I run into this with Mario 64 where people who haven't played it or only played it once or twice don't have the memory of like "Okay best strat from the past is do this" so those people are more likely to find themselves in a weird position or just completely in the wrong place to do anything effectively

red torrent
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he used a guide im pretty sure

forest walrus
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I've played OoT 3 times, including this most recent playthrough. (And not including my Master Quest playthrough)
The first time I played through OoT was on 3DS when I was in my early 20's.

forest walrus
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After that I just used Zelda Dungeon's walkthrough when I'd get stuck or for locating all 100 Gold Skulltulas for 100% completion with my most recent playthrough.

torn fulcrum
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I remember a bit of the first three dungeons and remembered the water temple as I always liked it as a dungeon

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But I had to look up a guide twice. Once during phantom ganon which confirmed I was experiencing a bug where no second ganon ever spawned. and the other time was just now to confirm Ganon actually has other attacks. (So I just reset the fight and went into a corner)

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With this done, may I never have to play this game ever again

silver latch
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Only tangentially related, but I just finished oracle of seasons, and I think I’m going to try to make it through skyward sword next (speaking of games with annoying controls). I’ve burned out after the first dungeon a couple times and never finished

forest walrus
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I still need to play through the Oracle games, but I think I'm going to finally replay Link's Awakening DX first.

fierce lion
forest walrus
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I've been wondering about how well the non-motion control scheme in Skyward Sword HD works.

wheat leaf
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I really need to play the Oracle games. I actually bought the carts back when they released. Still have them, just never got fully through seasons and never even started ages

silver latch
wheat leaf
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Hell I even got the game that was on GC and Wii but have it for GC since I hate motion controls

nimble maple
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So she hid during 7 years and at the most critical moment she sets up a meeting wide in the open next to ganon’s castle ?

wicked hull
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Forest Medal obtained and already at 50 gold skulltullas. I think getting through the rest of this in time should be doable at this point.

zinc plover
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Oracle games are maybe the best handheld LoZ games. Besides the one rhythm mini game. The code transfer is great also.

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How Capcom messed up The Minish Cap. I will never understand.

wicked hull
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Oracle of Seasons is currently my favorite handheld Zelda game. Absolutely adore that one.

coarse ferry
urban temple
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Finished it. I agree it didn’t end up feeling lime the best GOTM, let alone the beat game ever.

When I first played it in Game Cube, I the time shift was a total surprise and the idea of the destruction and the horror your friends had been through grabbed me, I wonder if knowing that too away from a load of the magic. It does make me think more favourably about Tears

oblique egret
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It was my first time playing it and I liked it LinkTada

oblique radish
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I liked it overall, but wasn't a fan of kinstones.

urban temple
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Some of the objectives, like the “make sure the library books are returned” really annoyed me, on the whole I didn’t jive with it

red torrent
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too much 3d zelda bloat and too linear in the overworld, didn't really give me the sense of exploration and freedom i want out of zelda. dungeons were mostly fine but the overworld was really underwhelming

urban temple
red torrent
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in minish cap?

urban temple
red torrent
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yeah lol

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i mean "3d zelda bloat" in the sense that it has a lot of the "do a random minigame before x dungeon" kind ofs tuff the 3d ones introduced. lots of fetch questing and stuff

urban temple
trail reef
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Kid me: "Wow, rolling forever in Hyrule Field is so fun!"
Adult me: "Man, rolling forever through Hyrule Field is so boring"

wheat eagle
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Real heroes of time walk backward everywhere

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(Or turn on the speed modifier in soh)

red torrent
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i was sidestepping everywhere lmao

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would use the minimap to point myself perpendicular to where i wanted to go and then sidehop

wheat leaf
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But yeah, more a product of its time

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Not really seen much back then

wicked hull
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I got Epona as soon as possible so I could stop rolling across Hyrule Field

red torrent
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yeah same

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still had to go back and do some child link stuff tho. if i was smarter about ti i might have had more of the warp songs when i did that lol but i wasnt

nimble maple
nimble maple
coarse ferry
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Pretty sure as a child I rolled everywhere with link just because it was something to do while traversing Hyrule

fierce lion
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“Shorter”

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Take out ocarina. Play song. Wait for song to play. Wait for horse. Walk over to horse (who probably got stuck against a rock or something). Mount horse. Turn horse. Ride horse. Stop horse. Stop horse for real. Dismount.

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Yeah, the time spent moving is less, but in the end it’s mostly canceled out by all the other stuff

zinc plover
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Stop horse for real, I feel

red torrent
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i mean late game u can use warp songs to get most useful places

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even pretty early on actually, once u get the forest warp song u can take the lost woods shortcuts to zoras domain and goron city. saves a lot of field crossing

crude terrace
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Twilight Princess has the quick jump off mechanic for the horse and it rules

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but then you have a good majority of the game where you can only call the horse at certain spots with the horse grass until you get the charm that lets you do it anywhere

fierce lion
red torrent
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the one with the club? bow or hookshot work i think

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and then u can just climb over the maze and miss the rest of them

urban temple
nimble maple
fierce lion
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Skill issue I guess

urban temple
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But far left of right should work

fierce lion
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Yeah, that’s what I tried

oblique egret
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The horse jump I've always hated. When TP princess started and two minutes in I was on Epona having to jump a fence I was having war flashbacks

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I'm probably 2/5000 on my attempts to cross the gerudo valley

red torrent
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i didnt even know u could do it with epona until this playthrough lol i always thought u needed longshot

oblique egret
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I read it in a magazine as a kid. Probably only tried on my fifth playthrough

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I never did the dungeons out of order as a kid

red torrent
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yeah same so i did that this time. did forest -> water -> spirit

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and yeah i did the trade sequence early this time and thats when i found out u could jump the gap

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finished the trade sequence before i even did forest temple lol

fierce lion
crude terrace
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Just finished Twilight Princess. Top tier Ganon fight(s). It's legitimately so good

wicked hull
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I loved the Wind Waker Ganon fight. ||Jabbing the Master Sword into his skull was very satisfying.||

coarse ferry
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||Puppet ganon || in windwaker right before Ganondorf fight ws so good thematically

crude terrace
coarse ferry
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I don’t think I ever actually finished TP

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I got to the desert temple place and left for summer camp

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Though TP is very important, since that’s how you hacked the Wii

wicked hull
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I've finished every console Zelda ending besides Skyward Sword, but now that it's being discussed I don't particularly remember the TP one. I don't know if that's a product of only beating it once, or me not being a fan of it, but now it feels like I've got to play it through again.

coarse ferry
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Oh no I beat it. Because Midna makes a comment about ||link not talking|| at the end

nimble maple
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How would you rank the dungeons ? They are all good but my ranking is :
Spirit
Fire
Shadow
Water
Forest

wheat eagle
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Fire, forest, water, shadow, spirit

nimble maple
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Oh really what don’t you like about spirit ?

wheat eagle
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It feels very linear with puzzles and rooms that don’t really connect with each other

red torrent
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Forest, Fire, Water, Shadow, Spirit. Shadow and spirit are close I think idk I can go either way on those

forest walrus
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Agreed c:

wicked hull
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Forest for the music alone

red torrent
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Yeah the vibes of forest overall are immaculate

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And it's got cool and memorable gimmicks. The twisted hallways are maybe slightly underused but they're still super cool

silver latch
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Forest might be my least favorite, and music is a big factor

brisk current
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Stupid sexy water temple I hate it but I love it as well.. and the Master Quest version is even way harder

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I love all of them, even Fire and Shadow of course … I just like the other ones better. But all 5 are honestly great

red torrent
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I remember master quest version being easier lol. Like it added a bunch of stalfos fights but made the keys easier to find

wheat leaf
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I actually love the water temple

coarse ferry
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What about the child dungeons

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Deku > Dodongo >>>>>>>>>>> Jabu

brisk current
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Dodonko Deku Jabu

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And ice caverns and under the well

red torrent
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deku is a really good intro dungeon imo. like its not super fun to play through a second time or anything but for the first ever 3d zelda dungeon it does a good job

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i remember jabu being better in master quest i think but its been a long itme. in vanilla its frustrating if u dont know where to go but trivial to a fault if u do. cuz all the barriers only open up in the exact same area in vanilla, i think they do more in master quest.

wheat leaf
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Hate that one

forest walrus
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I think I enjoyed it more overall.

red torrent
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spirit was also way better in master quest iirc. feels a lot more final

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i remember fire temple being good too but even more of it is optional in mq iirc

forest walrus
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Indeed

dark smelt
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So, I haven't seen it discussed, how are you all feeling about the mechanic of actually having to play songs to do things in game? Do you like it? Did you memorise some of the songs or did you always refer to the menu? I'm split about it, it's the theme of the game and all and it didn't really bother me or anything. But when you think about, for example, you use zelda song to change water level in water temple, in any other game you would press a button or pull a lever, which usually corresponds to pressing one button on the controller. Here, every time you have to press like 7 depending whether you remember the song or have to check first, and in modern day I feel UX design department wouldn't allow any dev with one to implement a mechanic where you need so many presses for a single action.

urban temple
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Classic “I want to savour the experience” vs “I just want to get to the completion screen” discussion

dark smelt
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Well, there so many other things in game that waste my time that I had like 0 issues with it, but then again 7 presses for 1 action would be a no go //nowadays// I think

wheat eagle
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It’s a nice little bit of immersion for me. They wanted you to feel like you were actually playing an instrument. Same thing in MM and WW.

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With joysticks as c buttons, a few of the songs are just two quick sweeps

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I also never go to the menu. I have a notepad with the songs.

urban temple
urban temple
wheat eagle
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A lot of songs are hadoukens and shoryukens actually (or slight variations)

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But I agree a contemporary game is more likely to pop up a menu and have you pick the song you want to play.

dark smelt
wheat eagle
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the biggest time waster by far in the base game is the fact that owl's menu options are in different orders each time

urban temple
red torrent
nimble maple
nimble maple
wicked hull
coarse ocean
faint storm
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I think I remember Nintendo Power advertising actual ocarinas or some shit after OoT. Don't quote me on that

quick nexus
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yea ive noticed myself just pulling out the ocarina and playing the lullaby or song of time randomly, not because i need to but just bc i feel like it

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i think its a neat system for spells honestly, maybe a bit unintuitive for nowadays but its a cool way of handling it

red torrent
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yeah i remember when i played sax for school i figured out how to play song of storms on it lol

forest walrus
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Clearly you were too cool for school. 😛

wicked hull
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Also arguably my favorite Zelda song in the game, so I had to.

red torrent
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yeah that and gerudo valley are the standouts in terms of melodic compositions (i like some of the dungeon themes a lot too tho)

wicked hull
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Song of Storms is my favorite "ocarina" song in the game, and Gerudo Valley is my favorite area song, so very much agreed

nimble maple
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What no save point between ganondorf and ganon?

wicked hull
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Fire Medallion got during toddler nap time, managed to make it to the Ice Cavern before she woke up. Hopefully can at least get water medallion and shadow medallion tonight!

fierce lion
brisk current
brisk current
wheat leaf
nimble maple
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I didn’t understand why Ganon drops are bombs.

wheat leaf
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I used Deku nuts on his tail. They finally had a use in the game after all

wicked hull
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Water medallion and Shadow medallion collected, still on pace to beat this one before the deadline.

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Though I recall the Spirit medallion being a particularly long section...

faint storm
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Well, that, and the Gerudo Valley is annoying yeah

zinc plover
faint storm
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I'm on course to beat Live a Live in... significantly less than a week I guess

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I just cleared schoolwork off my plate until the 1st, and I'm on my 7th story arc

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(I've got relatively brief appointments both Monday and Tuesday and have to do grocery shopping Tuesday but eh)

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Gonna train me some disciples and shit

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I'm not doing anything tomorrow except resting and Live A Live

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OK and that one appointment. fuck

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that reminds me, gotta load up 3D print files

nimble maple
wheat leaf
red torrent
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deku nuts are good actually! they make a lot of enemies really easy and theyre pretty common pickups so u can spam them without worrying too much

nimble maple
red torrent
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yeah they work against a lot of the stronger enemies. also they are great against the bats, they knock them to the floor

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theyre good against most of the enemies in jabu jabu too before u get the boomerang

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like yeah boomerang and hookshot stun too but those can be hard to hit with sometimes and they're slower

red torrent
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ive become a believer in them since doing a little randomizer and having to do some areas swordless lol

patent spruce
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seriously?

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they ||take away targeting|| in the last fight?

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assholes

wheat leaf
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Not sure why on that one

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Navi can withstand the fans in the spirit or shadow temple but breath is just too much

patent spruce
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okay that was annoying as hell, but once you get the pattern it's easy

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oh shit

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badass!

severe dock
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Just got the hookshot, this is definitely coming down to the 11th hour

oblique radish
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Glad to get this one off my backlog.

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And I do not recommend just playing this for the whole weekend. Makes a man bit funny.

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Played the most of the game 3D turned to the max, Ganondorf's nose has never been pointier. doggylol

wheat leaf
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I should try it in 3D

wheat leaf
severe dock
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It's going to be CLOSE

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Either tonight or tomorrow night will be a marathon

zinc plover
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Before 5pm Pacific standard time tomorrow. Per the new rule.

urban temple
wicked hull
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Spirit medallion obtained! Now to go beat Ganon.

zinc plover
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You got this.

wicked hull
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Already at the boss door

oblique radish
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The final boss went surprisingly fast.

zinc plover
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It felt very copy and paste from Mario 64 to me.

oblique radish
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I was having a nice morning until you pointed that out.

wicked hull
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And done, just in the nick of time. Still an absolute banger of a game!

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Ship of Harkinian made this one feel like I remember when I played as a kid. I know the vanilla game isn't as good as I remember, it's an earlier 3D game of course. But the improvements made in SoH really heightened the experience revisiting this one. Great fun.

quick nexus
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the gyro aim is so good

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except when im on a bus and it keeps jolting around and i keep missing the goddamn skulltula god damn it

wicked hull
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I kinda wished I'd played the 3DS port, as I never got around to that version, but SoH as an overall experience was incredible and I'm glad I went that route.

forest walrus
wicked hull
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Thanks! Now to wait for Ship of Harkinian for Majora's Mask before replaying that one.

wheat eagle
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it was fun replaying this and reading over 4200 messages. thanks everyone!

wicked hull
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Same, had a blast!

nimble maple
brisk current
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It was an honor boys

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17 more mins

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In case someone is fighting ganondorf as we speak

fierce lion
forest walrus
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Until midnight, deadline for completing GotM games I assume.

fierce lion
forest walrus
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Ah

night hornet
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Anyone playing this for January?

night hornet
fierce lion
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You have to seek out threads on discord. They’re a pain.

brisk current
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Im so happy to play again this game lol

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I’ll beat a temple per month

manic shoal
brisk current
manic shoal
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No worries! Just wanted to save you if not ha

severe dock
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I am infact doing this as a GotM for January as I didn't finish my OG N64 playthrough and decided to restart with SoH

zinc plover
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SoH

frank tiger
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does playing 3ds version count for gotm completion?

trail reef
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Yes

lucid fjord
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Either of the former I'd highly HIGHLY suggest Ship of Harkinian. Absolutely the only way I can play it these days.

frank tiger
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og hardware

zinc plover
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Ship of Harkinian because 22fps on N64 just hurts.

night hornet
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Honestly I've played it so much that I've actually left it on default fps. But I also use glitches that require certain frames, which become very difficult on 60 fps, lol

quick nexus
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i might actually finish this game now lol

blazing burrow
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Been 100%ing for the first time

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Just finished the first dungeon as adult Link

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Game feels a lot longer going for everything

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Probably won’t ever fully complete again tbh

manic shoal
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Starting here

severe dock
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I was wondering if this was the best place to chat or the Flashback thread