#Metroid Prime

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gusty meteor
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The mines sure are a war of attrition

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Got to the save room after the ||power bomb|| with less than 40 health

eager pulsar
eager pulsar
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Screw these giant mushrooms

hot loom
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Ah I love it

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Anyway yeah very final upgrade is a suit upgrade and then any beam combos you haven't found which are all optional

eager pulsar
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Never been happier to see a save room. Think I’m about to meet the ||omega pirate || judging by the nearby scans

lament oak
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Keep on chugging

hot loom
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Just rounded up the rest of the artifacts after grabbing the plasma beam

eager pulsar
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Jesus FN Christ, the || omega pirate || was a total wanker, my nerves are shot.

And there are at least 2 more bosses

thorn tide
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Just finished, great game! Will definitely play the others at some point

fiery moat
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Only Boss I found hard was the last part of Meta. Last boss is a color by numbers joke.

eager pulsar
lament oak
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After that boss it’s just artifacts and the finale

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So you are on good pace

lament oak
eager pulsar
# lament oak In the fight ||just have to ignore the adds. Too many of them and you’ll miss th...

Yeah that’s what I ended up doing but the whole “what weapon” bad guys plus the panic of trying to find the big one for be my the end.

Managed to beat them, got back to the start of the mines and saved there.

I still haven’t got all the artefact clues (although found one without a clue, I think)

Any idea if I have to go back to the statues to get the rest of the clues? I was hoping they’d just kinda appear

lament oak
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If you want I’ll just dm you what the hints say so you don’t see any spoiler

eager pulsar
agile fiber
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If you scanned the statues the hints are in your log book.

eager pulsar
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I’m asking if I have to go back to scan the others

fiery moat
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I just bombed the Omega and shot him on the sides twice.

gusty meteor
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The back half is actually 4x the length of the rest of the game

gusty meteor
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got the grapple

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south flower
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I spent waaaaay too much time on Speed Punks instead of hammering out MP this weekend...it's going to come down to the wire

long apex
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End of the month is sneaking up on me. Just got the super missiles in the research station. If I play for like 2 hours each night, could I finish? Or should I just give up now?

oblique lava
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I'm right behind myself, think just before the research station. Prolly going to dash this to end today and tomorrow.

ionic linden
blazing pasture
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Alright got the final suit, artifact hunting time! ||jk i'm looking it up just like back in the day||

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The mushroom platforming segment was the first bad time i had

ionic linden
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What went wrong with mushroom platforming?

blazing pasture
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i fell down many times

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it is in part because of my setup

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i'm playing on a projector that isn't super bright so dark places like that can be harder to read, and the projector has a bit of latency

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the gaming mode has low latency but it doesn't have keystone correction so i can't use it

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worth it for the giant metroids on my wall

oblique lava
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This game requires some brightness. I started with the GC version on my RP3+ and had the screen like on the lowest setting possible and was not having a good time.

eager pulsar
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I had the same issue with the mushrooms, I tend to play with lower brightness so that might have been it too.

Mushrooms weren’t as bad as the ||omega pirate|| though.

The ||underwater frigate || was my favourite section so far. Kinda my favourite GOTm experience for an age

blazing pasture
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Backtracking all the way up Phrendrana 😦

eager pulsar
blazing pasture
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24 hours is pushing it

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i beat the omega pirate this morning

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no work though, so i've got time

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picking up the last artifact then taking a break, i'll finish tomorrow

eager pulsar
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Fair. That omiga pirate though…… was the worst part of the game so far

blazing pasture
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took a retry, but i liked the mushrooms less

eager pulsar
ionic linden
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What part makes it hard? I've played it enough that everything is second nature. It's hard for me to remember the obstacles. I even killed all the adds during the fight without issue. What part makes it hard?

blazing pasture
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i kept missing my shot at the omega when he turned invisible because the minions were in front of me, and when i tried to focus on the omega, when he became visible again and used his vacuum thing the minions i had left alive became invincible

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i retried, focused on him, it went fine

dire bronze
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i too am not a fan of omega pirate. i had to retry by changing the Y button to L1 on my odin because keeping the original control scheme had my hand cramping

eager pulsar
# ionic linden What part makes it hard? I've played it enough that everything is second nature....

I think part of it was because f been playing too long and was hitting the weariness barrier.

||But the MFer teleporting and not being able to find him in the blackness while not being able to work out which gun to use on the adds (as I was using x-Ray) really annoyed me.

The skill issue is that it took me too long to work out how to dodge the hand to hand blows, or to just ignore the adds and suck up the gunfire which searching through the blackness ||

fiery moat
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Ball, super bomb and Omgea is easy work.

ionic linden
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||Switching visor is super fast. He won't appear for the first bit so you have time to focus on the are ladds||

long apex
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I did not expect marble madness. I think I’m gonna have to call it with this game. 8 hours or so to go is probably too much for me to manage in 4 days, realistically. I didn’t really jive with this game. I liked the music and atmosphere, but just about everything else was tedious, annoying, or just boring. Not ever really any challenge that I enjoyed. Combat was too easy, some of the platforming seemed to require too much precision for the bad perspective, and the morph ball stuff mostly just annoyed me. I think Metroid is better in 2D.

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spare umbra
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I'd have to agree, Super Metroid was a blast. This game, not so much. I'll probably give Metroid Prime 2 a try someday.

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I'll probably try Metroid Fusion first though, especially if the Analogue Pocket gets DAC support someday soon.

south mist
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dang I can't beat ||metroid primes second form||

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it might be frame rate related. My flip is struggling in this part

fiery moat
south mist
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oh ok. Also I just noticed I forgot to set performance mode lol. I bet those 2 combined gets me through it

fiery moat
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I dopped it on the rp3+ becasue it wasn't doing for me. Spent the money to get the Switch remaster. BTW who wants to buy it?

oblique lava
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Spiderball get. Fucking hell that rock took a bashing.

fiery moat
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That is about half way. You can do this.

eager pulsar
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Ok, so it turns out the artifact collecting at the end wasn’t so bad, I only had one in the lava levels and one in the ruins, then the ice and mines. The mines though - buts I hated the most - the mushroom jumps and the ||omega pirate|| so most of each for the artefacts? Lovely

Saying that I am liking the artefact puzzles a fair bit

south mist
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I wish the hints had been a touch vaguer tbh. When there's no threats around scanning in xray and heat vision is fun

eager pulsar
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Ok I’m on the artifact ||that asks you to take down the tunnel||

I can see a gap with x-Ray vision, but nothing, power bomb or super missile seems to work. Any advice?

hot loom
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Nature?

eager pulsar
# hot loom Which one?

The one that’s the ||tower in the ice world||

It’s my only artefact left.

Loved finding the hidden entrance in the ||long thin “edge” room||

hot loom
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Way to explain like three different artifacts kek

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Alright

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If it's the ||tower with the frozen Chozo statue at the top, use the plasma beam to melt the ice in his hands||

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If it's the ||tower with the flying pirates you need to go to the window and shoot the fuel barrels||

eager pulsar
hot loom
blazing pasture
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alright, impact crater. Let's do this

eager pulsar
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All artifacts got now

eager pulsar
hot loom
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Yeah that's such a weird one tbh 😅

obtuse haven
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If you loved the ||omega pirate|| you'll love the final boss

fiery moat
hot loom
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There's just no other "puzzle" like that in the whole game, and zero indication that that's what you're meant to do beyond just wild curiosity and experimentation

blazing pasture
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Died at the last phase of the final boss 😦

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next try tomorrow

eager pulsar
eager pulsar
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Heeeeeeers ||ridley||

lament oak
stiff shoal
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That one I had to look up

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Got to the area, couldn't find it

hot loom
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I have literally zero clue how I managed to figure that out back in the day when I was a kid with a Gamecube and no access to a GameFAQs

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Mighta been a paper guide like Prima tbh

fiery moat
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The window is very icy looking. I took a mental note that I might have to break that ice. Returned when I got the beam

lament oak
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Jaylash’s note

fiery moat
eager pulsar
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Oh my god, the ||phazon core|| with all the stupid ||splitting metroids|| knocking you off platforms if you try to ignore them is so annoying. Giving up ther efor today

stiff shoal
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Just run

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Don't look back

eager pulsar
fiery moat
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Super Bombs are great

lament oak
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Run to the map room, exit, wait for one to latch and super bomb

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Then run like heck

worthy lichen
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I got frustrated with this game for the first time tonight. I was in magmoor where the next hint told me to go. Made it through the puzzle to get to the top of the tall room, only to find I needed a power bomb and didn’t have one. Oh well, I think, I’ll kill some enemies and one will drop soon. No dice. I ended up going all the way back to the ship to replenish ammo, then called it.

hot loom
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I had the same problem when I got to the Grapple Beam room

south flower
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Just defeated my first Metroid in the core, beating this in time is going to come down to the wire.

lament oak
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You can do it probably

south flower
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Thermal visor acquired

sonic quarry
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I'm almost done with this one

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I got the carpal tunnel but it ain't gonna stop me.

ionic linden
scenic oyster
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aaaand I'm banging my head against the PrimeHack controls

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I'm trying to use a controller, but I can't turn. It seems like I'm locked in strafe mode

spare umbra
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That's weird. 🤔

scenic oyster
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all right fuck it. how good are the Wiimote-style controls on the Metroid Prime remaster

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if they actually feel good to use I'll do that. I just got the morph ball

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Like the kb/m controls in PrimeHack are working and they're all right but I feel like playing this game the way Nintendo intended might feel better

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Hmm. From what I'm reading, the pointer controls in the Switch remaster aren't great

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I don't want to play twinstick. Are the graphics and other upgrades really worth it if I'm going to play traditional GameCube style? 'Cause if not I'll just keep going with kb/m on Primehack

agile fiber
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the graphics look amazing and the modern controls were the reason why I played the remaster. was it worth $40? I personally think so, but I can see how it'd be a bit of a stretch. there's nothing really new outside of higher poly count and new controls.

scenic oyster
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Honestly the GameCube version does not look bad to me. It's dated, but obviously being on this server, that doesn't necessarily bother me that much

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Did you use twinstick, twinstick+gyro, or pointer?

agile fiber
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twinstick+gyro

scenic oyster
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Honestly I really dislike twinstick, and haven't played enough games using twinstick+gyro to really know if it'd gel with me or not

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Do you know if it takes gyro controls from third-party controllers with gyro while docked?

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actually I'mma find out if I can google that

agile fiber
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yeah the switch takes gyro input from 3rd party controllers

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I played with 3rd party joycons in handheld mode

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the gyro is really minor and I could've done without. there are no headshots in this game, which is what I'd usually rely on gyro for in a shooter.

scenic oyster
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that's fair

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I'm not very far in the GC version on PrimeHack but I might just stick with it, because kb/m is generally how I prefer to play shooters

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Either that or traditional GC controls with lockon

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and if all there is is a higher poly count, meh

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But yes. Without headshots or other location sensitivity, it does feel like fine aiming is deprecated in this game compared to most shooters

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I forgot how cool the music in this game is

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I'm not gonna lie though, I wouldn't kick a proper aspect ratio out of bed

blazing pasture
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You should find a gecko code for widescreen on the dolphin wiki

scenic oyster
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Does it actually work well tho?

spare umbra
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I played the Wii version and I think the controls feel great. c:

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Joycons aren't as good for motion controls, but that control scheme works really well for Metroid Prime imo.

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And I've seen someone speedrun Metroid Prime Remastered using the motion controls.

scenic oyster
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If I had a Wii around and could quickly get the Wii trilogy I'd do that but I don't and it's coming up on the deadline

spare umbra
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Well if you're considering the motion controls with the Remaster it's the same thing.

scenic oyster
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Except for the thing where the joycons apparently aren't as good as the wiimote

spare umbra
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Yeah, but like I said, I've seen someone speedrun Metroid Prime Remastered using the motion controls.
And I've personally played Super Mario Galaxy on Switch. Sure, you'll find yourself quickly resetting the pointer every so often, but it works well enough imo.

scenic oyster
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fair enough

blazing pasture
scenic oyster
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Hm.

oblique lava
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Got the ||Gravity Suit|| and it seems that next up is the ||Crashed Frigate||

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Dunno how close to the end I am, but I'll try to go on as long as I can today and finish the rest tomorrow and the day after.

eager pulsar
oblique lava
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I see. Hope it's not going to cut too close.

eager pulsar
oblique lava
sonic quarry
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Wow, that last boss is more annoying than difficult

thorn tide
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Swapping visors and beams was a bit annoying for sure, my least favorite part of the end game was definitely anytime jumping and mushrooms were involved

fiery moat
south mist
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I actually like jumping in prime

sonic quarry
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The very last boss

sonic quarry
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Lots of jumping and waiting around to blast

fiery moat
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||prime|| he is just ||color by numbers and stand in this area and shoot|| one of the biggest let downs to me.

sonic quarry
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It is a little disappointing when the combat breaks down to "swap to blue gun, then swap to pink" etc

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But still a fun game

fiery moat
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I think Meta was the best boss in the game. Omega is a chump.

blazing pasture
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I liked Prime

south mist
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Elite Pirates are easier to kill than the normal ones 😭

sonic quarry
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What is Ridley's deal anyway

oblique lava
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big dino

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angwy

fiery moat
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I got all the scans and I still don't know. Story isn't really there.

south mist
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ridley's deal spans games

oblique lava
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Iirc in this particular game, ||he's just been resurrected as a cyborg and ambushed by his killer (samus) while he's trying to get situated||

south mist
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I will say all the ridley foreshadowing in the game is great

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love seeing that shadow

fiery moat
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Played Zero, Fusion and Super. Still don't understand the story. It is very lite like Mario.

stiff shoal
south mist
oblique lava
sonic quarry
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I did genocide a lot of wildlife that was kinda just existing 🤭

stiff shoal
fiery moat
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Does the game have a plot? If so what is it.

blazing pasture
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Jay grasping at anything to say the game sucks

stiff shoal
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|| Space pirates take over chozo world, where a meteor had landed. The meteor is a source of phazon, a corrupting energy which the space pirates try to harness for their own power. Ridley is here ||

oblique lava
fiery moat
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I am asking serious questions

sonic quarry
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I didn't read any of the logs besides the boss ones that told me how to fight them. Am I a game journalist level gamer?

blazing pasture
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Did you read any of the scans ? Wasn't War and Peace

south mist
# fiery moat Does the game have a plot? If so what is it.

prime does yeah. ||The space pirates found tallon iv which has phazon a new fun radiation and power source. They infuse every living creature they can find with it to see what happens. Mostly this means larger and more aggressive but not always. Turns out the tallon iv indigenous people had mystical ability to partially see the future and planned for this with artifacts locking away the source of phazon and planting certain tools in secure areas where they hoped the "outsider" would find them before the invasive species (space pirates). After dealing with the space pirates, Samus goes to the source of phazon and finds a big ole metroid has been absorbing the stuff for a century||

fiery moat
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Why are we fighting the pirates? What is the point? Do they pose a threat?

stiff shoal
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Evil

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very evil

south mist
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the pirates tell you everything they're doing in logs

stiff shoal
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hence the pirate part

south mist
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they want to ||use phazon to create ultimate soldier mutants and take over the galaxy. It's all in the logs||

oblique lava
stiff shoal
south mist
stiff shoal
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True, but it's a follow up to older games which do

oblique lava
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Ah, I somehow remembered that they rehashed the relationship between Samus and Ridley there somewhere.

south mist
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yeah and it's cool how there is stuff to know by playing more games but prime itself works without knowing any of that. Full story is in the big spoiler I posted above

fiery moat
stiff shoal
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I had no idea of any of it before playing the game and got all of it from the logs

fiery moat
oblique lava
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In the end, Prime is "just a sidestory" anyways.

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Can't remember if the plot or events come up anywhere in the mainline.

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(or other storylines)

south mist
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are you sure you read the logs because here's an archive and it's all laid out here https://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Pirate_Data

Metroid Wiki
Pirate Data

These entries have been in the first game of the Prime series and are listed in order of how they appear in the logbook.
Note: Listed in order from original NTSC version.

blazing pasture
native rapids
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Playing through Zero Mission now because of this GotM

south mist
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I have the nitpickiest complaint about zero mission, I don't like how fast samus moves lol

sonic quarry
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I'm not a huge fan of story being told through logs. Fucking Destiny.

fiery moat
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I was also told at the beginning of the month that the logs don't matter.

fiery moat
stiff shoal
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they don't matter for gameplay

south mist
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I prefer samus to be careful and deliberate

native rapids
stiff shoal
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you can go and shoot to your heart's content

south mist
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super metroid is my fav though

fiery moat
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super is great just floaty feeling controls

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wish prime had run

native rapids
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So used to platformers giving the player some inertia when jumping and moving. Not Zero Mission, full speed jump and sticks the landing like a gymnist

south mist
south mist
stiff shoal
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Probably my main Prime complaint, you're too slow

south mist
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I do agree with that for late game. My fix would have been putting grapple points everywhere for fast travel late

fiery moat
stiff shoal
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Would've made some of the backtracking a lot better

native rapids
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Metroid Prime with Shinespark

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That would be funny

stiff shoal
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Too many doors for shinespark

south mist
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You can boost around as a ball

stiff shoal
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and verticality

south mist
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That was probably their idea of running

native rapids
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O no, I mean it wouldn't work at all. Samus would be leaping over mountains

sonic quarry
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This game needed cryptic, staticky, audio logs to convey the story.

south mist
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I love the tongue in cheek logs about the morph ball

agile fiber
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you don't want too much momentum in a first person platformer. it'd get much harder to control. but more fun movement options would've been nice late game.

native rapids
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I had enough trouble with Shinespark in Dread

eager pulsar
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I do think playing The Outer Wilds has impacted how I view the “story through scan” nature of the narrative

gusty meteor
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I gotta say I understand why people vote for short games every time... none of the games I've played so far have been TERRIBLY long but even a cool 20 hours can be stressful to get through in 30ish days - especially if you're also taking time out for GOTW, or you have like... other games to play that aren't GOTX, for some strange reason

stiff shoal
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Metroid at 12 hours was infinitely more engaging than Metal Slug and much more than 6x as engaging as Kirby

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You're just not getting much out of those very short games for GOTM

eager pulsar
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Aaaaaaand done

The advice you lot gave about running through the jumping colum and powerbombing was good advice.

Didn’t find the final boss anywhere near as bad as the ||omega pirate||

I…… have questions about whether the morality of the space pirates is actually much worse than what is expected

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I do wish I’d front loaded more and not been in such a panic to finish before the deadline

earnest sundial
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Just got the grappling beam

gusty meteor
ivory tokenBOT
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@gusty meteor is on a 4 month completion streak!

earnest sundial
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Starting to doubt il finish but will continue pass months end. Enjoying the game a lot

gusty meteor
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i'll be real bummed when the day comes that all 3 GOTM are a total chore

stiff shoal
eager pulsar
stiff shoal
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Only month with all games over 10 hours

south mist
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policenauts should be a light 10 hours though. Mostly just clicking through and reading

eager pulsar
lone nebula
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Done, I can see why people adore this game. Was mid for me. The metroid games have never really resonated with me. More of a Castlevania person tbh.

sonic quarry
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I enjoyed a first person metroidvania

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Plus it looked nice for a GameCube game

obtuse haven
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After replaying it, and I'm ready to be lynched...

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I can confirm I prefer 3d metroid to 2d metroid

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Don't ask me why it just clicks more with me

sonic quarry
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I've never even finished a 2d Metroid

worthy lichen
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I made it to the ||omega pirate|| at lunch today, but I ran out of time and have to abandon the fight. I think I'm going to have to go get some more ammo before I try again. Then it sounds like its time for me to go artifact hunting, but I think I'm going to make it

sonic quarry
lament oak
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Kraid is why 2D Metroid is

lament oak
south mist
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I wish there were more scifi 2d metroidvanias in general. I loved axiom verge

eager pulsar
fiery moat
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Super bomb his feet

obtuse haven
fiery moat
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3D mario you can run in. Same with 2D Metroid.

worthy lichen
# fiery moat Super bomb his feet

I did this with the 1 super bomb I had. Then a little later I also ran out of missles, and tried to limp by on missles dropped by the little bad guys. I didn't understand that I also needed to ||use the x ray visor to do damage while he was recharging|| so I wasted a lot of ammo. Oh well, it was my initial attempt and tonight I think he should go down pretty easy with a bit more ammo and having a strategy

south mist
ionic linden
gusty meteor
gusty meteor
fiery moat
gusty meteor
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I meant like top down twin stick

native rapids
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Right outside grapple hook and of course I used my power bombs

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-_-

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Do I even really need it to beat game? I'd rather not look for a missile room/ship and traverse back

hot loom
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Yes unfortunately

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You can go grab the Xray in the meantime but either way ya gotta come back for it

worthy lichen
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The big bad guy that tripped me up at lunch time went down in like 2 minutes when I had ammo and knew how to damage him. I decided I didn’t care too much about deciphering artifact clues and looked up what rooms they are in. Just need 5 more, and they’re all in magmoor and phendrana

gusty meteor
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omega pirate is a dick

fiery moat
gusty meteor
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I don't like holding A to charge my weapon, pressing B to jump and pressing Y to shoot missiles, all while holding L to lock on and moving left stick to strafe

fiery moat
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Map A to the trigger or play the remake where you can use either

gusty meteor
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the super bombs act like they hurt it but they DON'T DO SHIT

fiery moat
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You have to place the bomb at his knees and it takes away all his armor. If your fast you can kill him less than 90 secs

south mist
oblique lava
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Children may yearn for the mines, but I'm not a fan.

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Though that underwater section slaps

oblique lava
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Got X-ray visor (also the wavebuster and couple artefacts with the help of a guide). Think I'm actually going to beat this one in time.

eager pulsar
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Maybe sucked arse is too far, we’re a mile away of the joy of the underwater frigate

native rapids
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I am psyched to get home and grind out the last bit of this game. Maybe defeat it tonight but def tomorrow will be done

lament oak
gusty meteor
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the odin 2 battery life is fantastic man... I think I've played the entirety of metroid prime in 2 charges

gusty meteor
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Not sure if I love or hate the fact that they make you backtrack through the whole world to find these artifacts...

stiff shoal
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I found them pretty quick to grab

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They tell you exactly what room they're in

gusty meteor
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I think I love it, yeah. Helpful hints in-world, plus so much of the game is about exploration and discovery, what better way to get that than to re-discover all the places you’ve been before, with tons of new gear and shortcuts. Plays up the power fantasy for sure.

eager pulsar
stiff shoal
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Artifact hunting was surprisingly fun, I was dreading it as well

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But when it actually happened I did enjoy it

blazing pasture
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It surprised me how much the lava rooms are set up to exploit your further abilities to backtrack quickly, with spider tracks and graple hooks, but most of the other areas just benefit from the jump

fiery moat
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I wish more were like that.

gusty meteor
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Shoulda been hella grapples imo

stiff shoal
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Grappling hooks make every game better

sonic quarry
eager pulsar
lament oak
spare umbra
native rapids
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Here we go Prime grind, anybody else on that 11th hour burn?

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Nuhhhhhhhhhhh

lament oak
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Retry retry retry

native rapids
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Did a whole bunch

lament oak
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Maybe roll back your yuzu client

stiff shoal
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Just take my screenshot and edit it, you deserve it

native rapids
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Dam lol don't know what's worse. Losing the save or the fact that I went out of my way to buy snacks and drinks to grind tonight

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Was looking forward to it

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Ahh well

worthy lichen
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Ugh that sucks.

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I just finished. I think I fall with the majority. This is a good game, but I don't think its an all time great. I prefer 2D metroid. 64% in 12:42. Didn't go out of my way to find any upgrades, never felt like I needed more health or ammo except against the first time against the omega pirate when I came in with only a single super bomb and wasted my missles. Combat was a bit too easy, but it could be that I was playing with twin stick controls (played Trilogy on primehack on steam deck)

fiery moat
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I am glad I only lost one save in my retro handheld life.

worthy lichen
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The last two bosses kinda dragged on. I think the closest comparison to this game I've played is Powerslave, and I may have liked that one better because the combat actually has some hard parts

fiery moat
lament oak
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It’s in the top ten GameCube games for me

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But there is not a lot of competition there tbh

stiff shoal
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GameCube has a small library of excellent games

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I think this is one of them

lament oak
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Let’s aim for pikmin game in the future

stiff shoal
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Never tried Pikmin once, but I'm willing

native rapids
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Pikmin is good

fiery moat
lament oak
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And how many are Billy Hatcher

fiery moat
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MP was a lot better than the last Gamecube only game we played.

lament oak
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Which was that?

fiery moat
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Luigi's Mansion

stiff shoal
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That one was controversial

fiery moat
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Pikmin is fun.

stiff shoal
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Love that game but there was definitely a split

worthy lichen
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I think this is my least favorite GameCube game that I’ve played, but I’ve only played a very select few (Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, Luigi’s mansion, Twilight princess if you count that I think is all that I’ve played for more than an hour)

lament oak
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Oh yeah Luigi mansion didn’t age as well

worthy lichen
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I liked Luigi’s mansion

eager pulsar
lament oak
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3ds port was okay

eager pulsar
worthy lichen
stiff shoal
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That sympathy quickly turned to antipathy

fiery moat
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I like Prime more LM.

lament oak
stiff shoal
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My enjoyment from Sunshine comes from the controls

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Try really getting into just moving Mario around

ivory tokenBOT
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Luigi's Mansion won GotM in October 2022.

lament oak
fiery moat
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LM starts strong by the end it's just oh let me chase this ghost with 500HP around for an hour

stiff shoal
lament oak
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I’ll try it again on switch I think. It’s sitting on my shelf

stiff shoal
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But they're not the majority of the game

worthy lichen
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Now that I’m thinking about it, Luigi’s mansion is the only actual GameCube game I’ve played. I played Wind Waker HD, sunshine in the Mario 3d all stars collection, twilight princess on wii and Wii U, and MP via the trilogy on Wii

stiff shoal
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They didn't have much for the game so they needed some padding to make it feel a bit longer

fiery moat
stiff shoal
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I'm more lenient toward game with high highs and low lows

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There are so many games, I want one to give me something special

lament oak
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As for prime, prime 2 is not as enjoyable for me right now. Maybe I’m playing it too close to beating the first one

fiery moat
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Go play Gun and then come back or Black.

gusty meteor
fiery moat
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any game in 6th gen. that has questionable controls always falls in how good the game is.

long apex
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I was so done with it after the unforgivable giant boo fight. Hate that game.

stiff shoal
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Because you're usually pretty positive

long apex
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I am, usually. I think that one is the one I’m most harsh on. Perfect dark is up there too.

scenic oyster
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why does Magmoor feel kind of like just a place you pass through to get somewhere else

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it is way too cool for that shit

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(inb4 it gets expanded later)

long apex
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I recognize prime is probably a good game, but it feels like it was just made to annoy me personally. A lot of my complaints and issues are praised by critics and others, so it’s just clearly not my game. I don’t think I was harsh on this one though.

long apex
stiff shoal
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One of those game is an unholy mess and the other is recognized as a meme bad game

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So just two actual games then

long apex
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Two that probably don’t deserve it, but I can’t change the way I feel. lol.

stiff shoal
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It's fine to critique games, taste is subjective

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I think I'm close to alone on thinking DOOMRPG sucked

long apex
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Aww, I really enjoyed that one. lol. I mean, it was bad, but I liked what they were able to do with it. It was novel and I did enjoy it.

stiff shoal
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I might have been too harsh because I was really on team Boktai

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But playing it on something besides a mobile phone made it really clear how limited it was

fiery moat
fiery moat
long apex
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I think that’s more on the card game being bad than the video game though. Any video game adaptation of it will score poorly by me.

ionic linden
# scenic oyster (inb4 it gets expanded later)

It doesn't. Still an awesome area. The music and atmosphere make it an easy favorite though. Take out Magmoor and you lose very little in the way of game structure, but it would lose impact

scenic oyster
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fuck, I got dumped out into the frigate site and I can't back up to where I was

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if I want to take the other exit into the Tallon Overworld from the Ruins, do I actually have to walk through that entire fucking ruin again

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fuck it. I can't be assed. I'm just going to the next thing. this is bullshit

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I have like eight energy tanks and 95 missiles. whatever's up there I probably don't need it badly enough to take a half a goddamn hour walking back

scenic oyster
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ughhhh fuck this relic in Phendrana

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||that Phendrana's Edge fakeout tho||

ionic linden
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Which relic?

eager pulsar
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So here my thing about the questionable morality of Metroid prime.

We find out in the last battle that || the source of the phazon is Metroid prime||

But since phazon only occurs due to that specific ||metroid|| it must mean that phazon is either || a waste product of metroids or an actual part of a Metroid’s internals||

Since the space pirates were feeding phazon || to metroids||

This must mean that they were either || feeding Metroid waste to Metroids or feeding Metroid internals to Metroids. They’re either making them cannibals or making them eat their own excrement.||

Either way it’s really disgusting

I might have thought about this too much

obtuse haven
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed, but I think the ||Metroid Prime didn't necessarily come with the Phazon, but rather it was particularly corrupted by it||

ionic linden
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Or it could just be a creature that adapted to the phazon

obtuse haven
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Sequels might bring some more lore to this

ionic linden
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The 100% shows more information. It shows something else being corrupted by it. Hence the Prime 2: Corruption

obtuse haven
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From a pirate log I re-found on the wiki:

|| Space Pirate Data "Impact Crater": Investigations into a possible ingress point for the impact crater continue to meet with failure. The shield of strange energy that protects it is impermeable, and all attempts to tunnel past it have proved fruitless. Our continued futility in this matter is made all the more significant in light of recent life form readings we've discovered emanating from deep within the crater. Analysis of the readings indicates that a massive creature is gestating in there, absorbing enormous amounts of Phazon from the Phazon core at the heart of the impact crater. This discovery makes accessing the crater doubtly important - not only will it open the door to the vast deposits of Phazon within, but it will also lead us to this creature, whatever it may be.||

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The implication being that ||the Metroid is absorbing the Phazon, rather than producing it||

scenic oyster
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All right, two last relics, both in Phendrana. fuck Phendrana and its nonsense

scenic oyster
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all 12 artifacts get, no guide

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(I'm pretty sure I don't have 100% tho)

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that was fiendish

scenic oyster
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oh how did I forget about ||this guy||

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fuck it I'll do this later today

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I should have no trouble getting the end screen before the article goes up March 1

old inlet
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Not gonna make it, guess. Bugged save soflocked game(

native rapids
sonic quarry
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How far were you?

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A lot of games have repositories for saves if you feel like downloading one near where you were.

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(just don't cheat) 😡

old inlet
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Couple of artifacts and final bosses

old inlet
hot loom
# eager pulsar So here my thing about the questionable morality of Metroid prime. We find out ...

So the strongest theory is that ||the Leviathan crashed on Tallon IV, spreading Phazon and generally fucking shit up until the Chozo there created the barrier to seal it. Later the Space Pirates arrive, bringing with them Metroids from Zebes/SR388. One Metroid escapes captivity, is drawn to feed on the energy of Phazon, mutates into a form similar to its final form which allows it to pass through the barrier to reach the Phazon Core within the Leviathan. It consumes the core, thereby becoming the new source of Phazon, and mutates into its Prime form. Then, in that ending you saw, it was doomed to be formless after being defeated. So it stole the Phazon Suit from Samus in order to have a way to maintain a stable form for itself.||

south mist
eager pulsar
hot loom
hot loom
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One important thing to be concerned about when dealing with scan lore from Prime is whether or not you're playing the original NTSC Gamecube version or not

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The lore was wildly retconned in later releases due to the trilogy

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In particular the events that occur in the third game do a lot of hefty shenanigans to make Prime 1 part of a larger overarching plot

south mist
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I was playing pal for performance reasons, but I admit most logs I just skimmed

eager pulsar
hot loom
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Yeah no I wasn't disagreeing with you

eager pulsar
hot loom
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You're correct that it says that

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I was just pointing out how confusing it can be sometimes

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I played the original Gamecube release for years so I always have to double check for retcons myself

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Like I think the original explanation for ||Prime having beam armor is that it was captured by the pirates at some point and in its escape it stole some of their beam armors that they were developing for the wave/ice/plasma/power troopers||

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Which naturally doesn't fit with the modern version where they couldn't breach the barrier at all

south flower
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I plan on beating this but it ain't happening today so I'm going to challenge myself to finish it off before we see MP2 nominated at some point

hot loom
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I've just gotta make the run back up to the ship and then I can enter the temple for the final segment of the game, so I should be able to finish tonight

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I really went from "I'm gonna be the first completion for the month" to "I'm gonna take this slow and really enjoy the experience" to "I'm going to wait until the last fucking second to actually finish things up" kek

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I'm at like 90% item completion, thought about consulting a guide to track down the last 10% but I think I'm fine with just finishing normally

south flower
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MEGA RIP for the person who had a corrupt save the other day, really grateful to have save states on these titles for exactly that reason

dire bronze
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i can confirm this is high up there on one of the best games ive ever played. tbh im not a big FPS player so this game and Fallout 3 are the only 3d "shooting" games ive beaten. it was great

covert rapids
covert rapids
covert rapids
scenic oyster
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The tower one was clever

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As was the edge one tbh

lament oak
scenic oyster
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yep

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Metroid Prime down, just waiting for the credits to clear

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I don't know if I'm going to bother to go back and 100%

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I was at 88% before beating the end guy

fiery moat
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six mins hurry up

scenic oyster
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Wait, they're getting posted in six minutes?

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I snapped some pictures of the scene before the credits, so here goes

fiery moat
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No I am joking

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6 mins for voting to be over

scenic oyster
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oh!

stiff shoal
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Come on Star Ocean 2

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We got this

agile fiber
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GG everyone. I had a lot of fun hanging out and talking about Prime. mariopeace

stiff shoal
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Love the game, loved the discussion. Made the month for me

lament oak
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You guys made the month for me

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And @eager pulsar

dire bronze
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I am lurker but I enjoyed reading this channel

south flower
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Mildly disappointed that I'm not going to get it finished in time but I will finish it up over the coming weeks inbetween other GOTX for March

hot loom
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Well I had enough missles to just go ahead and beam combo the fuck out of that spidery bastard, now just the easy fight left to go

scenic oyster
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Yeah I used the super missiles anytime it was vulnerable to power, but I'm not a big fan of the other charge combos

gusty meteor
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Just a couple more artifacts and I cna finish this thing up

hot loom
scenic oyster
gusty meteor
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Found em all, let's wrap this damn thing up already

oblique lava
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Right behind you

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Just took care of the Omega Pirate. Was dreading the fight but in the end folded the guy like an omelette in two cycles with the strats given here.

gusty meteor
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AHHHHH dammit I'm still missing one

oblique lava
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I found the ultimate weakness of metroids.

hot loom
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86% in 10:28 not too bad for a casual run WarioThumbsUp

oblique lava
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Not bad at all.

oblique lava
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Done with the mines. Dug up a guide to make sure that I don't have to backtrack there ever again.

covert rapids
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Welp im gonna throw in the towel in this one I think. I love the game (and even the artifacts I was grouchy about earlier were cool enough that they won me over) but I’m so tired and with 2 artifacts and boss battles left I think I just won’t be having fun by the end of it. I’d rather enjoy this games ending than push through for the point. That said, super grateful for this club because I’ve wanted to play and finish this game for years and it’s been a blast and I think I’ll finally finish it in a couple days. Good luck y’all!

gusty meteor
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these boss battles are bullshit

gusty meteor
covert rapids
# gusty meteor I'm gonna get it done to keep my streak going but I understand this for sure. Al...

Oh yeah I totally get that too. I think if I was on the boss battles I’d push through but there’s just enough more running around than I have the energy for tonight. I made it back to the artifacts temple and scanned the clues for the final 2 artifacts (I had missed them earlier) and then saved in Samus’s ship, which is always my favorite place to end a sitting of this game. Consistently been blown away by how great this remaster looks and runs on the switch and the vibes are just sooooo good. Like the music everywhere is just the best.

gusty meteor
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I don't really have the time or patience for this final boss fight... it's gonna be really unpleasant to push through this

gusty meteor
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74%, 11:10. Very done with Metroid games at this point having replayed 4 of them in the last 6ish months, but I still wanna get through Dread too.

oblique lava
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Artefacts all done, now off to the end

ionic linden
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As a final comment for this game, I have to say that it definitely does not give the same feeling as the 2D games, but it brings something else to the table. While 2D makes your feel like a badass speeding through everything, Prime really captures an atmosphere that few games can replicate. You feel absolutely stranded on a hostile planet, but you can stop to enjoy the beautiful atmosphere of the world that once was

obtuse haven
ionic linden
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Fusion and Dread are probably the closest in 2D, or the Zero Suit section in Zero Mission, but all of them are still more combat focused

oblique lava
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RIDLEY DOWN

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FUCKING FINALLY

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Get bent you asshole

earnest sundial
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i found it at times cathartic after a long day of work to be able to kick back and be isolated on this world with creatures puzzles and backtracking...:D

oblique lava
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Made it in time.

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The final boss was pretty easy compared to Ridley.

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89% in 12:22

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Though I shamelessly used a guide towards the end.

agile fiber
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gg

scenic oyster
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I had way more difficulty with everything after Ridley than Ridley

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Super missiles stitched Ridley right up

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people have been remarking on how well this game held up

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I didn't enjoy it quite as much as I did as a teenager, but I have to agree

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I think the Gamecube generation is when graphics really just became Good Enough

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Like Gamecube games look mildly dated

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that's it

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graphics have been a solved problem for over 20 years

covert rapids
eager pulsar
earnest sundial
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Still busy with Metroid Prime and at the Omega Pirate battle. What a bastard hahah.

The mushrooms bit prior to the battle was a challenge as well

eager pulsar
south mist
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I was testing yuzu last night and tried out remastered, and there's some significant game play changes not just controls. Holding fire shoots a 3 round burst before charging up

earnest sundial
eager pulsar
worthy dove
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is there a way to get primehack on android? I'd like to play prime 3 portable but the way the camera controls is hell

eager pulsar
shut cobalt
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PrimeHack is PC-only (Windows, Linux, and Mac). Android is not supported (even though requirements are listed)

worthy dove
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Dang

shut cobalt
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It was designed around using a keyboard and mouse, so I can’t say I’m surprised Android isn’t supported

fiery moat
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android has Dolphin if you want to play it.

worthy dove
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Yeah but prime hack has mouselook camera which means no delay when panning

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I wonder if there's a cheat code or something

south flower
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Should I chat here or in the Flashback thread?

long apex
waxen dawn
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Think I'm going to do this for my GOTM, with the remastered version on switch

south flower
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SAMESIES!

waxen dawn
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I don't remember it being this hard last time I played it. I must be used to save states these days because dying at a boss and restoring way back at a save point is annoying me lol

south flower
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I am struggling with that too lol

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I think I might put this one on the back burner until I finish my OoT and Chrono playthroughs and hope to squeak this one out in the 2nd half of the month

waxen dawn
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CT is on my list too this month, but gonna push through this one first. I think I'm actually enjoying it more now that I'm further in. The first few hours felt a bit like aimless wandering, but some background story narrative is kicking in.

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One QoL thing I really wish it had though is the ability to set a waypoint on the map and see it when you're moving to another area. Or some type of warp/fast travel.

south flower
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Does Dolphin Prime Hack have that?

shut cobalt
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Prime Hack is a fork of Dolphin with improved controls for the Metroid Prime games. As far as I know there are no modifications to the games themselves

waxen dawn
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Still making good progress. The occasional aimless wandering back across maps is still my main frustration. Too many times I have backtracked 20-30 minutes to check out a door or something I now have the tool to open, only to find out there is another blocker immediately after it that I still can't open and I wasted the trip.

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I generally avoid guides whenever possible, but it really seems necessary here unless you don't mind potentially spending hours wandering

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Again fast travel would have been so nice to fix this problem

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There is a "hey dummy you might want check this area out" thing that pops up occasionally, but not sure why it triggers only sometimes

formal saddle
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All I can advise is to get the artifacts along the way. Don't be like me and think you're about done but you only have 4 out of the 12 and have to do some tedious crap

waxen dawn
formal saddle
waxen dawn
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I'm using a guide that breaks artifact locations out into sections, I've had enough wandering in this game

waxen dawn
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I'm at the final boss. The boss battles in this game are so stressful, I hate how they ramp up in difficulty the more you damage them. Like it always feels like the last 20% of their life bar is so much harder then the first 80%

waxen dawn
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And finished.

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I think I didn't quite enjoy this as much as I remembered back in the day on GameCube, but still definitely a great game. Also don't remember it being this tough, but that might be me getting slower or playing it on cramped switch controls. I just wish they would have added a few QoL features in the remaster to reduce the aimless wandering a bit, that would have made it even better.

waxen dawn
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Oh btw, protip to anyone playing the remaster: it's possible to still do a spring ball jump even after obtaining morph ball bombs (they use the same button). To do it you literally have to shake your switch, even if you're using dual stick controls. It doesn't seem like this is documented anywhere or if it is I couldn't find it. It can be really helpful to do jumping bomb drops onto bosses and stuff especially Omega Pirate

south flower
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Interesting, I wonder if this can be done on emulated devices