Metroid Prime

[solemn marten]

NVM totally found it

[lament oak]

So for the phazon mine part

|| took me forever to realize I needed to use xray vision to see invisible platforms in the Metroid quarantine area :/ ||

At least running everywhere to find where to go next helped clean up some upgrades

[shut cobalt]

You mean the bowling alley? I think it’s called ||hall of elders||

[lament oak]

Yeah I like how the statues just yeet samus

[lament oak]

Finally

Beat that ||tyranid looking mf ||

The controls make it hard to shoot super missiles so it took awhile

[hot loom]

You have to use R to shoot if you're gonna use super missles

Unfortunately the control scheme of this game was heavily built around the Gamecube layout, so pressing Y from the A button was like right there

[lament oak]

In remastered you can swap r and x from change beam and missle

That way you can just pivot your thumb a little bit to fire a super missle

Found that after the boss

[lament oak]

I did it. Finished the game!

As for my thoughts on it:
|| The game was fairly good. A lot of it still held up today today’s standards. The 12 artifacts just felt like padding though and the last two bosses (meta Ridley and Metroid prime) were kind of disappointing. There was some clunk but I enjoyed it. I know I played it as a kid but I can’t remember beating it so it’s nice to check it off finally ||

Final time 11:14

Might go back and 100% the items but slowly

Just glad it wasn’t Warioland 4

[ionic linden]

I'm not a fan of the Ridley fight as it's a lot of waiting when he's flying in the air, but what did you not like about the final boss? It felt suspenseful for me

[lament oak]

The first phases of it was fun

I didn’t like waiting around for puddles

And it only had one attack basically in the final phase which was countered by jumping

The || title drop being the final boss || was cool

[spare umbra]

Congratulations! 🎉

[marsh wigeon]

Done with metal slug and Kirby, ready to give this one a go! Maybe if I'm lucky I can burn through it this weekend

[scenic oyster]

Metroid Prime is a reasonably meaty game

not like, JRPG-meaty, but it'll keep you busy for a bit

[marsh wigeon]

It's 10ish hours right? If I have a free weekend it may be doable

[scenic oyster]

You'll probably be pretty busy those two days

[marsh wigeon]

I'm playing guitar for a four hour event where I have to be there for a song at the beginning and the end and then have the entire time between free on Saturday so that'll at least give me time to get through a good chunk of it

[lament oak]

Hltb has it at 14ish hours

[marsh wigeon]

Oh wow

I thought it was significantly shorter for some reason

[lament oak]

Well the two completion screenshots were like 9:22 hours and my 11:14

I have played prime beforehand and I used a guide near the end

Worse boss spoilers : ||if you don’t count the parasite queen, by far the worse boss is the rock talus guy imo ||

[solemn marten]

There's a bowling alley?

[ionic linden]

Worst as in least favorite?

[ionic linden]

That's the DS spinoff that came out after the success of Metroid Pinball. The third is the best in the series, Metroid Shot Put

[solemn marten]

Uh Im intrigued

Hope this isn't a joke 😢

[lament oak]

Yeah

[cunning seal]

Man do I love Metroid Prime Pinball on the DS! Easily my all time favorite pinball video game, though The Pinball of the Dead for the GBA is a pretty close second.

[shut cobalt]

This is why Tales is really Terrible. There is no Metroid bowling game. There is only a single room in Prime where ||Samus|| gets treated like a bowling ball

[solemn marten]

Yeah I figured. I'm surprised there's a pinball game tbh Metroid seems like one of those IPs that Nintendo doesn't spread too thin

But a whole series of Metroid sports games...

A man can dream

[shut cobalt]

Yeah, there absolutely is a pinball game

If you like pinball video games, it’s worth checking out

[solemn marten]

I do in fact like pinball video games and have a 3ds 😈

Thanks

[normal dew]

Tired of playing this game, lol

Just got my 🕷️ ball

[cunning seal]

I just did too! ^_^

[harsh shadow]

I could not for the life of me figure out how to do a super missile

because I still had the wave cannon equipped

[eager pulsar]

I did this exact thing, if it’s any help. Assumed it was a Metroid thing and I had missed out by not playing the previous games

[hot loom]

In the 2D games super missles are an alternate mode for the missle firing (or overwrite missles entirely in Fusion and Dread). Prime is the only one that has them as a beam combo instead

The wavebuster is probably my favorite beam combo

Ice spreader and flamethrower are super meh

[harsh shadow]

fuckin rock boss

[cunning seal]

There's gotta be a "rock and roll" joke in here somewhere.

[lament oak]

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-metroid-prime-metroid-prime-remastered-bonk-hit-on-the-head-gif-27626108

[hot loom]

I like Thardus

[normal quail]

Same!

[lament oak]

Ice spreader was useful for the freeze but yeah flamethrower was kinda worthless

Plasma already did so much damage it wasn’t really needed

[hot loom]

Yeah

[agile fiber]

I wandered around lost for an hour until I realized I missed the obvious room where you get space jump.

[lament oak]

You can turn up the frequency of the hint system in options on the remastered. Helped a little bit

[agile fiber]

Ooh good to know.

Huh I’m not seeing frequency. Just on/off.

[lament oak]

Huh you are right

Guess playing at 3 am after putting to bed a crying baby does that to you

[south mist]

I played the gc version. I'm pretty sure if you need a hint just go to your ship and save, quit, load your save and it will give you one

[solemn marten]

Ooh I think Im about to detoxify the water

I could have done this a game-hour ago too

[solemn marten]

Oh my god flaahgra was so annoying

Are they all like this

[ionic linden]

They're all puzzle based, but Flaahgra feels the slowest even though stuff like Thardus is longer

[solemn marten]

Ok that sounds pretty good. I do like shadow of the Colossus so I'm ok with big puzzle bosses. I guess i just wasn't expecting it to ||knock its solar plates back into place||

[spare umbra]

I didn't have much difficulty with Flaahgra.

Just a matter of side dodging around the arena and stunning him at the right time.

[solemn marten]

Do I get to climb on any of them

That's what I want

[spare umbra]

I could've sworn that last time I played Metroid Prime I was able to jump on top of the mechanical flamethrower boss but I wasn't able to this time. 🤔

[undone raven]

I recently fought Flaahgra and was also annoyed by this, it took me awhile to see the animation of them doing this because I was quickly trying to blast all the triggers. Took me like two-three times going back and forth going wtf before I noticed it happening.

[ionic linden]

That's why you can attack it even though it doesn't damage it

[undone raven]

Yeah I figured that out, I didn't have trouble after I noticed the animation; but having the first two triggers being on the opposite sides of the arena doesn't make it very apparent that you'll see that animation. I thought it was time-based at first rather than stun-based, because I wasn't noticing the animation and thought I was just running too slowly.

[spare umbra]

I decided to give the Wii version a try. Does it seem like Samus' movement is faster in the Wii version compared to the GameCube version to anyone else?

[lament oak]

Not sure but it might just be the fact that the gun isn’t static so you don’t have that point of reference anymore

They did make some QoL stuff like morph ball jump in the Wii release so maybe they changed speed as well

https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_version_differences

Here’s a list of changes between all versions. I don’t see anything listed about speed

[spare umbra]

Hmm, weird. 🤔

[lament oak]

Noice

[spare umbra]

^_^

[spare umbra]

Damn it, where is that 4th symbol in the Watery Hall?

And of course I found it right after I asked. 🙄

[spare umbra]

Man, the motion controls in the Wii version of this game make its gameplay feel WAY better.

So much smoother and more fluid.

[lament oak]

Compared to GameCube yeah

Prime hack is really good as well but that’s x86 only

[spare umbra]

Well yeah, of course mouse and keyboard is always going to be better, even for light gun games.

[lament oak]

Well prime hack has controller support too

But for og hardware, the Wii version is the best

[spare umbra]

I'd say that Wii remote + nunchuck is the second best way to play, even compared to using dual analog sticks, one for movement and the other for aiming.
Third best would be motion controls with the Joycons.

[normal dew]

So far one of the memorable boss for me

Just gt the ice beam. Really slow but sure for me.

[spare umbra]

It's insane how much faster I'm making progress in the Wii version of this game compared to the GameCube version.

[spare umbra]

Is there any point in collecting the artifacts sooner rather than later?

[lament oak]

Less backtracking

But more than a few require late game upgrades anyways

[spare umbra]

Well it seems that my next destination is the Magmoor Caverns or whatever they're called.

[lament oak]

Lava

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-okay-thumbs-up-melt-lava-gif-9214446

[scenic oyster]

That's a spicy floor

[normal dew]

Idk with you guys here, but my relationship with Metroid like love and hate

I enjoyed Symphony of The Night better

But I think it's a better Metroid game since it's an FPS

And I don't have to turn back so much

[spare umbra]

Eh, I enjoyed Aria of Sorrow more than SotN, and Super Metroid even more than that. I'm not sure how I'd rank Metroid Prime 1 yet.

[normal dew]

Aria yes, in terms of feature, has lots to enjoy

But I don't play Aria as GOTM

SoTN is what I played last year

And is it just me? I hate the ball mechanism

Ballboarding at its best

[spare umbra]

I love using the Morph Ball in Metroid Prime because it seems to be the fastest way to move through the game.

[lament oak]

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-other-m-metroid-other-m-speed-boost-speed-booster-gif-26543641

[old inlet]

Those White/Purple/Red doors tho

[spare umbra]

Still

I mean sure, it's still not as fast as you can move in Super Metroid.

[cunning seal]

Jeebus, you are just flying through this game! 😮

[spare umbra]

:3

So much faster with motion controls. ♥️

[ionic linden]

You disgust me. Don't acknowledge that

[rigid glade]

Man, I wish I had more time to chat about this game, but it's super busy month for me

Been to phazon mines last night, got the super bomb, have to admit that it got a bit annoying, knowing that there's 12 artifacts and I haven't gotten one in a long time, feels like I'm making no progress

[normal dew]

This is why I've been using walkthru

The 6 hrs longplay

But I feel sick and not really explorative

[rigid glade]

Also this games reminds me why I love emulation, not only it works great with mouse, but I've been referencing gamecube longplay (the same 6h video), and boy does the door opening is so slow on gamecube, like there's a hidden loading screen, would drive me mad to play it like that

[eager pulsar]

Got the 4th (I think) artifact and the 5th looks like it needs a “more than double jump” jump to get. Got the ice beam, just trying to work out where to go next. Hopefully this means I’m in the second half of the game

[old inlet]

Still sweeping the whole Tallon for that bloody missiles. Damn you, my crappy memory and lack of attention!

[steady smelt]

I tried motion controls with joycons and it was kind of miserable. Maybe I'm just out of wii practice. I've been using dual stick but with gyro, and it feels pretty good. More precise than the right stick is on its own.

[normal quail]

I think I’m old. I hate motion controls and gyro

Also never grew up with a Wii, so no nostalgia. I bought one a few years ago and thought controlling stuff with motion sucked and stopped using it instantly

||Omega Pirate down|| and got the ||phazon suit||

[spare umbra]

I saw someone use motion controls to speedrun Metroid Prime Remastered.

[agile fiber]

Nintendo definitely overdid it with motion controls on the Wii. Gyro for games like breath of the wild and modern fps is perfect for me though.

[shut cobalt]

I got to ||Meta Ridley|| late last night. I guess that’s what I’m up to today

[shut cobalt]

dad, can you take a break so I can play animal crossing?
Oh well

[lament oak]

Other m wasn’t that bad

[ionic linden]

The gameplay was pretty fun if not Metroid at all, but that story is the most pathetic thing to ever exist

[native rapids]

Here we go, Prime Time

[shut cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/nfl-deion-sanders-prime-time-gif-23455388

[cunning seal]

Whelp, I sold my Odin 2 today since my bad arm would have no more of it, so now tomorrow I'm gonna have to pick up Metroid Prime: Remastered for the Switch to play in docked mode and start the whole game over from the beginning. I had just gotten the ||Ice Beam|| too so I think I was pretty far along in the game >_<

[lament oak]

It goes faster the second time

Since you roughly know where to go

Dw

[hot loom]

That's absolutely what it is, a hidden loading screen. Yeah I used to get so damned impatient at those doors

[lament oak]

Already started the second one

[normal quail]

Just need the first two artifacts

Somehow missed those and got all the others first

[eager pulsar]

Those are EASY

Do you have the clues?

[normal quail]

I think it’ll be funny to get the first one last

Ah I’m following a guide so no clues needed

[lament oak]

The tower artifact is the only one that was super annoying to figure out. You should be good with the first two

[gusty meteor]

Been busy, need to catch up

[gusty meteor]

What device is that

[lament oak]

Ayaneo air

[normal quail]

I got to the part before the final boss ||where you climb up the weird internal and Metroids are constantly attacking|| it made me say, I hate this damn game too many times

[lament oak]

That part really ticked me off for a long time

What is did was || run to the map room then go outside. Before jumping on the last few platforms wait until a Metroid latches on and drop a power bomb || that should clear it up enough for platforming

[lament oak]

I had to stop for the day and mentally reset

[normal quail]

I was doing that for a bit but ran out of power bombs. The missile station not refilling those is annoying

[lament oak]

You can go back to the ship for full refill, annoying but meh

[normal quail]

I finally got it. This final boss seems easier than ||ridley||

[normal quail]

Overall it was fun and I enjoyed most of it. I wouldn’t have beaten it without GOTM though because I wouldn’t have the patience for some of the stuff. I know it’s the genre, but damn some of the backtracking was getting to me

[lament oak]

Which boss was your favorite or at least the least annoying?

[normal quail]

I think ||the plant|| was fun. Most of the boss fights were annoying haha

[steady smelt]

There are not enough save rooms on these maps.

[agile fiber]

I died on the way to thermal visor. That was an annoying run back. Especially because there are so many scans.

[lament oak]

I had just beat || thardus || didn’t go back and save. Died shortly after. That was fun

[steady smelt]

I have fun in Metroid games until I die, then I'm so frustrated with everything I have to do again because there wasn't a save room.

I think the only reason I got all far at I did in Metroid Dread was because I played on Easy mode, where it uses a checkpoint system when you die instead of sending you back to the last save room.

[normal dew]

I actually like Thardus. He's always on my mind, lol

[lament oak]

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-prime-samus-throwing-rocks-throw-stone-who-did-that-gif-19731010

[solemn marten]

Me too. I feel like I'm supposed to have more power ups though...

[spare umbra]

Ikr?

[solemn marten]

Well, if two of us feel that way, maybe we're doing ok

[undone raven]

I actually liked Thardus more as a challenge than Flaaghra as well. It took me a few tries to beat Thardus but it felt more satisfying to learn than the the one try I need to beat Flaaghra, but seemed to take overly long

^I mean that Flaaghra took overly long

[normal dew]

I actually kinda like it, but the ball part kinda annoying for me

[lament oak]

If you think these bosses were subpar , oh boy just wait until Metroid prime 2

[hot loom]

What?

Bosses in Prime 2 supa cool

The little ||powerup guardians bosses|| can sometimes just be kinda meh, but all the ||Temple Guardians|| as well as ||Dark Samus|| are all great fights, top tier Prime bossing

I arguably think that while Prime 1 does classic Metroid more overall justice, nailing all the trademark classic beats of the series, that Prime 2 does a better job at truly creating a frightening, isolated, and oppressive atmosphere throughout that makes it very compelling. I wouldn't say I like it better than Prime 1 because it's kind of apples and oranges in a good way that keeps the trilogy from feeling samey.

[solemn marten]

Awwww yeah got the space jump

A Castlevania classic

[ionic linden]

Boost Guardian... ugh

[cunning seal]

Hooray for Amazon delivering at ungodly hours of the morning! I restarted Metroid Prime, on the Switch this time, over breakfast and have already gotten down to the Tallon overworld ^_^

It's a very nice looking remaster and I'm really digging the hybrid control scheme option that gives you classic GameCube controls but with the option to do motion aiming with ZR. Great stuff!

[steady smelt]

Got space jump last night. I hate this game, but can't put it down.

[eager pulsar]

How far after ice beam is space jump? Is it the next upgrade?

[steady smelt]

Wtf I dunno, I don't have ice beam yet!?

[solemn marten]

Uh... Same here

I wonder who's sequence breaking

[steady smelt]

Certainly not me.

[agile fiber]

Is the game that linear?

[cunning seal]

I think you may have missed the space jump boots! If ya need a hint, ||go back to Tallon Overworld and look around for half pipe configurations||.

[hot loom]

Dan has got to have space jump. There's zero way he got to the Ice Beam without it.

[steady smelt]

Space Jump otherwise known as Double Jump.

[hot loom]

Yeah a bit less exciting than in the 2D entries

Still a total game changer for mobility in this one though

[normal dew]

Just got grapple beam

It's getting harder and harder

Choices are to empty your missiles or risking your health

[ionic linden]

At least it's not as disappointing as screw attack. I can't think of a better way to do it in 3D though

I wish I could go back to being new at this game to discover the challenges again. I can't think of what is hard in this game at this point. I barely even used missiles. Charge beam all day every day

[solemn marten]

Hardest part for me is figuring out where I'm supposed to backtrack to

Way easier in a 2d environment. I just got the double jump and i have no idea how this is going to help me

[hot loom]

I like how @eager pulsar came in here to unsettle everyone's day and... oop here he is

[eager pulsar]

Yeah like Raven says, I’m confusing the upgrades. I’ve got the double jump but the next artifact seems to need an even bigger jump

[eager pulsar]

It’s what I do

[hot loom]

Lol. I was gonna say "came in to unsettle everyone's day and then disappeared and refused to answer further questions"

Anyway chances are if there's a bigger jump you need to make, a certain fourth visor may actually highlight the way forward

[shut cobalt]

Bigger jump? Perhaps you aren’t looking at it right

[eager pulsar]

Ahhhhh

[eager pulsar]

Basically ||im underwater and the exit I need isn’t reachable with my current upgrades||

[shut cobalt]

Ah

[hot loom]

Maybe you just need to appreciate the gravity of the situation

wink wink nudge nudge

https://tenor.com/view/chris-farley-laugh-gif-9429540

[shut cobalt]

This was my first thought, too, but yeah, it sounds like it’s the second one since there’s water

[eager pulsar]

Hence me asking about the gravity boots not realising they’re the same as the double jump

[hot loom]

Way down deep in the very depths of the Phendrana Drifts there's a bunch of creepy ass little electrical dudes in the water guarding a very impotant upgrade

They are my least favorite enemy in the game

Because they scare the Hell out of me

[eager pulsar]

I think that’s where I’m heading next? Passed the ||ice beam door at the end of the research facility?||

[hot loom]

Yeah pretty sure

Had to look em up, they're called Jelzaps

[eager pulsar]

Oh fuck, I can jump as a ball, how long have I had that?

[hot loom]

Since you got bombs

[eager pulsar]

Damn, and here I was bomb jumping since then like a heathen

[hot loom]

If it makes you feel any better, there was no ball jump in the original Gamecube release, so the game is entirely built around bomb jumping

They didn't add the jump till the Wii release of the Trilogy, and then carried that into the remaster

[eager pulsar]

Ok, I played some way through the GC original on OG hardware, so I’m gonna blame it on that

[solemn marten]

I wonder if the people who made this played jumping flash

If the camera panned down on the double jump like it does in JF these platforming sections would work a lot better

[eager pulsar]

You’re not wrong they’re annoying AF. Still better than the ||lights out bit|| in the research facility

[solemn marten]

Uh oh

[old inlet]

Yee haw, all missile expansions in hand! For everyone interested, ||Watery Hall and Dynamo, have no clue how I missed that ones||. Now for power bombs, luckily I missed only two

[solemn marten]

Just got the wave beam, still don't have the ice beam lol

[hot loom]

Yeah ice is pretty far into the game

[eager pulsar]

Is it? Good info. I’m just waiting for the fire beam

[hot loom]

Plasma is a fun one to get

Nice little spiderball puzzle

Was pretty nice in the original GC release if you did the Ice Beam Before Flaaghra sequence break then all you needed to grab was the Varia suit and Space jump and you could cheat your way straight to the Plasma Beam way before most of your upgrades

Although it required a pretty precise scan dash off a stalagmite that could take ages

[solemn marten]

Scan dash?

[hot loom]

Yeah tricky little trick they figured out how to do. It's a glitch that got patched in later releases

[solemn marten]

I'm playing the GC version but gosh I feel like it'll take longer to learn all the speedrun tech than to actually beat the game

I should probably watch one just in case though

[hot loom]

Oh it did, you only did the tricks on later runs after you'd practiced for hours

Even in Remaster there's a bomb jump trick you can do to get early Space Jump but it's a real bugger and requires exploiting some dodgy collision detection

A lot of the replay value in Metroid is just figuring out how much you can break the game

[ionic linden]

For GC version, it does. Hold B when jumping. I don't know about Wii version. Switch has an option to look down on jump too, but it's not on but default

[ionic linden]

That's the ||ghosts|| or ||space pirates in dark|| for me. It was surprising how not scary they are as an adult veteran of the game

[gusty meteor]

Super Bowl and Metroid Prime today. Let’s get it.

Just got the Varia suit

[hot loom]

Yeah see I'm terrified of stuff being underwater. Dunno why, some combination of thalassophobia and submechanophobia that makes water levels in almost any game a nightmare 😅

[solemn marten]

Oh I see. It's slight but yeah I think you're correct

[tall horizon]

I think it’s a fact that most water levels in any game are awful .

[solemn marten]

Ok the part immediately after you get the wave beam is incredible. Straight through several areas, no backtracking, ||firefights with space pirates|| and putting all your abilities to use in a well designed 3d environment

I'm hoping more of the game is like this

Oh and plot reveals too. Woohoo

[normal dew]

I'm really sick of the ball boarding

Idgaf about missile upgrades anymore, lol

I had enough missiles

[shut cobalt]

How many do you have?

[normal dew]

130 around that

I followed the walkthrough faithfully and never really skipped anything

Around 3.43 now, just a few more hours and few more collectibles

Ball boarding messed with my mental health, lol. I ended up screaming around

Just gt the power bomb, I think you know where the missile is dirn

Around an artifact

[lament oak]

The amount of missles you have equates to how fast you can beat the second to last boss.

[normal dew]

How many do I need?

[lament oak]

I finished with 105 and the second to last boss was kinda annoying but doable

130 should be fine

[normal dew]

I'm really bummed out about the ball boarding

[lament oak]

You need 75% for the longer ending cutscene and 100% for the extra cutscene

But we have YouTube now so….

[shut cobalt]

I got to the penultimate boss with 200 missiles but I think I had something like 145 left when I finished the fight

[normal dew]

Don't think I want the secret ending, lol

[eager pulsar]

Got the ||gravity suit|| let’s go, the water is no longer annoying

[normal quail]

Eh, I wouldn’t go that far haha. It still can be

[eager pulsar]

Ok, currently got 4 artefacts (know where 4 more are but need additional upgrades), hopefully that means I’m 2/3 through.

[shut cobalt]

I don’t think the water is ever not annoying. You just move through it faster with the suit.

[eager pulsar]

But ||I can see and move relatively freely|| and that will do me

[normal dew]

Near the end... One more artifact

Best boss fight so far is Omega

[solemn marten]

You don't ever get to walk on water I take it

[eager pulsar]

I mean, it kinda depends how you define “ice”

[solemn marten]

👀

[covert rapids]

this game rules

[eager pulsar]

Just got through the ||underwater spaceship|| section. Honestly that might be the most beautiful section of the whole game so far

[solemn marten]

Dang you were right

[south mist]

I think people talking about the annoyingness of water in this game are over reacting a little. Once you have the gravity suit it's only mildly annoying. You jump like twice as high and the enemies are lot easier to kill than flying space pirates

[ionic linden]

Flying space pirates aren't too bad. Use charged wave beam. It has homing capabilities

[lament oak]

I just used ice beam charged to freeze then a missile

[stiff shoal]

Exploration in this game is stupid fun

Just picked up the morph ball bomb upgrades and I'm having a blast running around areas of the map

[shut cobalt]

I think that was the closest finish I’ve ever had in a Metroid game. I had single digit health left

[normal dew]

This is me fighting Omega

[shut cobalt]

I don’t remember Omega being so bad, but maybe that’s just because the next boss took about 8 tries

I also had most of the missiles, so maybe that helped

I missed 10 missile upgrades and 2 energy tanks

[normal dew]

Oh man

I have to watch the guide carefully

But I'm gonna jump in first, see if I can beat it myself

[shut cobalt]

Some of the missiles in this game are in really non obvious places, so there’s no shame in not getting more than you actually need

[stiff shoal]

I've gotten a bit lost. Reached the magma area, found two elevators, one that leads to || an ice dead end || and one that leads back to the surface, can't figure out how to advance further

[shut cobalt]

Time to back track maybe

[stiff shoal]

Haven't unlocked any abilities though

Since I went down to the magma area

[stiff shoal]

Turns out you can just break ice, I'm dumb. Carry on

[steady smelt]

I just got the wave beam. Died once on the boss and was reminded why I dislike these games.

[covert rapids]

yeah regular saving is pretty essential... (assuming you're complaining about losing a bunch of progress when dying to a boss.)

i think that the ||boost ball|| has to be one of the cleverest upgrades in any metroid game. the reveal that ||all those funny half-pipe-looking things are actually half-pipes and not only that, but if you mess around with those half-pipes enough by your ship you'll find the double jump...|| just perfect search-action/metroidvania design

[eager pulsar]

Agreed, the thing was, when I started the water, I didn’t know there was going to be relief soon, so the way it’s presented fills some players full of (Metroid) dread

[eager pulsar]

Yeah I discovered this yesterday, makes them much easier. A charged ice beam at them when they’re frozen works too

[eager pulsar]

I can help, I don’t think the magma area is anything other than a pathway to the ice at first. What abilities do you currently have? I think there’s an area near your spaceship you can access once you get where you are?

[rigid glade]

Damn the artifacts are so well (and randomly imo) hidden, went through longplay and realised I skipped 3 that I could have picked. Time to backtrack

[normal dew]

I've done it! Thanks guys. It's one of the bosses that you need to beat, at least once in life

[stiff shoal]

Figured it out, I just assumed you couldn't break ice for whatever reason

[eager pulsar]

Yeah I saw, sorry for not updating the reply

[stiff shoal]

All good

I was going to complain about the game, that's all on me though

The boost ball controls might not be all me. Playing on Prime Hack though so that might be what makes it annoying

[harsh shadow]

Ice beam acquired

[lament oak]

@normal dew mad lad using a thinkpad for gotm

Hope you used the red nipple mouse for most of the game

[quiet coral]

Scrounging around for artifacts is exactly as fun as I remember it being

[fiery moat]

Where I stopped at and need to push thought to the end.

[agile fiber]

found the plasma beam. the lead-up was simultaneously the coolest and silliest thing so far in this game.

[stiff shoal]

Wave beam get

[agile fiber]

I know it's iconic/staple of the series, but the morph ball is just silly. in my head, samus is tucked in a fetal position rolling around everywhere. how she doesn't get dizzy is beyond me.

[fiery moat]

Dramamine injections

[native rapids]

just remember the alien bird species taught her how to do that

because, reasons

[normal dew]

No I used a regular mouse

[lament oak]

😦

[normal dew]

Primehack is really that good

I had no difficulty whatsoever

[steady smelt]

I actually kinda of like the lock-on feature. Does Prime Hack m&k use lock-on?

[stiff shoal]

Yup

It's not needed too much for aiming, but it's great for strafing

[agile fiber]

am I supposed to have protection against this blue glowing radiation thing before coming down here? the game hint is telling me to go through it.

[shut cobalt]

Definitely don’t walk on the blue glowing radiation thing without protection

[stiff shoal]

This is just general life advice

[agile fiber]

damn I'm so lost

[stiff shoal]

Probably ahead of me (I think) so can't help there

Just grabbed the wave cannon, which I'm fairly certain is optional

[lament oak]

Maybe it’s the part where you need a new perspective? For Metroid quarantine area

[shut cobalt]

Yeah, each of the beams has an upgrade. You don’t need them.

[stiff shoal]

The lock on makes the game a bit too easy so far

Especially with the charge beam

[spare umbra]

Welp, since I'm waiting on a different Bluetooth adapter for PlayStation to be delivered by Amazon tomorrow, maybe I'll take a break from Tomb Raider II to play some more Metroid Prime.

[lament oak]

The remaster tomb raider comes out tomorrow

[ionic linden]

Use your x-ray visor

[lament oak]

Spoiler tag

[spare umbra]

Yeah I know. Problem is that the classic graphics have frame stutters, and I don't know how they handled the difficulty in TR2 and TR3, considering that the Japanese versions are easier.

I'll still play the HD remaster at some point, because playing with the new graphics at 60fps sounds fun.

[spare umbra]

I got the Boost Ball. c:

[stiff shoal]

Boost ball best ball

Can just zoom around if you want

[lament oak]

Like a cat at 2 a.m!

[stiff shoal]

People are enjoying it but I'm surprised there hasn't been more chatter.

This is probably going to be my GOTY or close to it

[spare umbra]

Finally got the space jump boots.

[spare umbra]

Ikr?

[stiff shoal]

Too many people with only a Miyoo Mini maybe

[stiff shoal]

Movement opens up a ton once you have them

Feels like you could go anywhere

[spare umbra]

I just got the Artifact of Strength in the Magmoor Caverns. c:

[lament oak]

Was that the one that is || hidden in the rock pillar in the lava lake room? || that one took me forever as the hint wasn’t that helpful imo

[spare umbra]

I'm not sure. It required the space jump boots, and it was high up in the room with all of the turrets and whatnot.

[lament oak]

Ah different one then

Still you are making great progress

Jealous of your tv too

[spare umbra]

:3

Wave Beam acquired. 🙂

[spare umbra]

Got the Super Missiles. c:

[agile fiber]

I figured it out. I was approaching the objective from the opposite direction. And then I died on my first attempt of ||giant pirate dude||.

[blazing pasture]

I died after at the ball puzzle. Back to the mine entrance

[rigid glade]

If my math is correct I have 7 artifacts. The backtracking is becoming infuriating

[blazing pasture]

why would you use math

the pause menu shows the ones you have and don't

[steady smelt]

Do you have to collect all the artifacts to beat the game, or are they just one of the Collectibles?

[worthy lichen]

I'm curious about the artifacts as well. I got the wave beam last night, but haven't found any artifacts, just the area that gives you a bunch of clues

[stiff shoal]

I've picked up one since then, but that's it

[spare umbra]

Doesn't that area with the clues have an artifact right in the center?

I just got the Wave Beam and I think I have 2 artifacts so far. I got the 2nd one in Magmoor Caverns.

[worthy lichen]

hmmm, if it does I must have missed it. I thought I scanned everything there before I left

[rigid glade]

The menus are completely unintelligible for me, can't find shit there, doesn't help that half of the primehack supposedly default buttons for keyboard that replace the wii ones, aren't actually what stuff is binded to, even though I haven't changed a thing

[stiff shoal]

Took me a bit to figure out all the menu buttons

I'm just going until I get stuck, and that's worked for me

[scenic oyster]

Necro-ing a bit but I was like that when I was a kid. It wasn't until I grew up that I shed my fear of things like water predators. Dire Dire Docks and Jolly Roger Bay were terrifying stages when I was a kid

[shut cobalt]

They are required

[tall horizon]

Each time I want to start this something gets in the way . Now my girlfriend, who haven’t touch the switch for months, want to play ring fit adventure lol.

[south flower]

So save states move well between different versions of Dolphin (play store version vs mmjr vs mmjr2)?

[south flower]

Encourage that, health is important

[south flower]

Keeeeybooooard?

[ionic linden]

Yeah. A save is a save. Just make sure it's in the right place

[lament oak]

Ready for next playthrough

[agile fiber]

||big pirate|| is kicking my ass

[lament oak]

Yeah took me a few tries too

If you use ||a power bomb after jumping right at its feet|| it should make it go to next phase

Then just || super missile on you find it using xray ||

[agile fiber]

thanks, that helped. got it on the next try. I also ||ignored the adds and just tried to get as many super missiles in on the first round and did like 90% hp before the pirate rematerialized||

[lament oak]

Nice

[stiff shoal]

I went to a water section early and had to spend 5 minutes climbing back up slowly while enemies pulled me off the small platforms

I'm heated

[lament oak]

I played most of the game mute but going back through: damn, the music is really good in this game

[lone nebula]

I've had headphones on the whole time. Great soundtrack

I've been stuck a few times so far. Trying my best not to use guides and figure out where to go myself. It does get tiresome after being stumped for awhile though.

[spare umbra]

Yeah, I don't hesitate to use a guide when I get stuck in Metroid Prime. It takes too long to backtrack, unlike in Super Metroid where you can zip around the map with shine spark and whatnot.

[old inlet]

Actually I'm parallel playing Super Metroid (first time in my life; yeah, I know) and MP feels like a remake of SM but MUCH slower

[ionic linden]

Don't worry. I did that too. Actually, I did it twice because I REALLY couldn't remember where to go

[spare umbra]

My feelings exactly.

[lament oak]

Thankfully no kraid though in MP

[blazing pasture]

Saves, sure. Saves states are incompatible from one build of dolphin to the next though, let alone version

Unless that changed recently

[ionic linden]

Oh whoops. I missed them say states instead of save

[rigid glade]

FPS always on m&kb, that's my religion

[agile fiber]

I was initially excited for gyro aim but with lock on and headshots not being that important, it hasn't felt that necessary. I guess with kb+m you can turn around faster.

[south flower]

Sacrilege

[rigid glade]

https://tenor.com/view/ponste4-witches-gif-20066260

[south flower]

Speaking of which, when using PrimeHack on PC what do you do for Dolphin to NOT use Keyboard/Mouse? I've switched the controller to Metroid controller and profile to the gamepad and bound all the gamepad buttons but as soon as I launch Metroid Trilogy it just goes RIGHT BACK to K/M

Am I missing a check box or something?

[lament oak]

I had to download a xinput controller config from the website

[south flower]

Oh! Glad it's not just me haha

[stiff shoal]

Russ has a guide

https://retrogamecorps.com/2022/03/16/metroid-prime-hd-emulation-guide/

[south flower]

I went through that guide but it seemed like it either "just works" or he used K/B

I've figured it out, I had to bind BOTH Gamecube controller AND emulated Wiimote

Not super happy with my binds just yet but I'll tweak as I go

[south flower]

Got a link by chance?

[lament oak]

https://github.com/shiiion/dolphin/wiki/Controllers-&-GamePads

PrimeHack XInput Controller Profile (Wii Version) by jvook

[south flower]

Legend

HOLY TOLEDO this is an unstable mess...

I didn't think my X18S would ever be a smoother experience than my gaming rig lol

[rigid glade]

Do you mean you have performance issues on PC?

[south flower]

It HATES being switched from full screen to windowed

[rigid glade]

It runs issue free for me, maybe you went overboard with texture settings, Texture caching can eat up even 32 gb of ram, and stuff like ssaa means the game is rendering on higher resolution and is downsampled to target, so like 8x ssaa is 8 x your target resolution

I had to turn off texture caching cause my 16 gbs weren't enough

[south flower]

Fair enough, more tinkering it would seem

[stiff shoal]

that might be where some stutters are coming from for me

It's perfectly fine, rarely happens, but I was wondering why

[sonic quarry]

Just escaped the first facility with 15 seconds to go

What a rush

I'm getting Returnal vibes from these Chozo Ruins.

[earnest sundial]

Any guides people can point me to? I have been playing for a few hours and beaten one of the big bosses but haven’t gotten any artifacts

So I think I’m missing things

[lament oak]

Artifacts are endgame stuff

You’ll get hints for them at the temple location which is locked behind missiles

Don’t worry too much because you’ll be backtracking a lot at the end of the game anyways

[agile fiber]

in the couple places I got stuck I actually found it confusing to look at a guide since guides are sort of written linearly, and if I didn't do things in the guide's order I was even more confused.

so I just wandered until the game started giving me hints. or I asked for help here.

[fiery moat]

Just played the " Tutorial" on the switch remaster. It's super easy on the switch

[gloomy roost]

Is anyone playing Metroid Prime on RP3+? Any settings recommendations if you are? (This is my first GC game on it.)

[fiery moat]

Use doplin for handhelds and use the pal rom

[gloomy roost]

Is dolphin for handhelds the same thing as mmjr2?

[south flower]

I was under the impression "Dolphin for Handhelds" was some internal Retroid fork of MMJR

[spare umbra]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0D23ED450528006B&si=MVFmHpgT_q7472YV

https://youtu.be/jpEuQAy-PGE?si=porlIZAxC0lp-zv8

[tall horizon]

That girl’s face appearing when I shoot was cool

[tall horizon]

I didn’t beat the timer because it took me 8 minutes to understand that I needed to roll so they bring me to the latest save point … before the boss . First time that I see a game that doesn’t automatically save after the boss .

[agile fiber]

yep, there were a couple times where I backtracked after a boss to a save point instead of progressing

[tall horizon]

Yeah that’s what I will do from now on . If I ever touch that game again .

[worthy lichen]

I got the super missiles and the thermal visor tonight. Hopefully I make it through before the end of the month.

[cunning seal]

Just got the Gravity Suit, so now it's time to go do the part of the game that scares the bejesus out of me cause I've always been slightly fearful of being underwater XD

[earnest sundial]

thank you sir!

[spare umbra]

No problem. 🙂

[eager pulsar]

I usually hate underwater, but this was actually my favourite part of the game so far

[rigid glade]

Finished. Great to have played it in gotm and I hope we get to play the sequels as well at some point. My final grade is 8.5/10. The game neither surpassed or failed to reach my expectations, it was exactly what I expected it to be, but I see some room for improvement. Boss ranking: Meta Ridley > Flaahgra > Metroid Prime > Omega Pirate > Thardus > Parasite Queen

[agile fiber]

nice

[oblique lava]

I'm enjoying this game considerably more now that I've turned my screen brightness up a little.

[harsh shadow]

GRAVITY SUIT

https://tenor.com/view/tpose-t-pose-meme-t-pose-to-assert-dominance-slipknot-sic-gif-25072741

[icy elk]

Hmm, I really need to start this one at some point.

Goes back to Shining Force instead

[harsh shadow]

right?

it's so cozy

I have to specifically not take my ARC to bed if I want to work on the actual GOTX games

[oblique lava]

The plant boss can blow me.

This game needs some proper strafing.

[cunning seal]

Just use lock on targeting with L (or ZL on Switch) to keep your view locked on the plant boss while sideways dash jumping with B to strafe around it and get to the reflectors ^_^

[oblique lava]

Yeah, I got that. Just seems that I either fatfinger or the boss goes outside the range every now and then that completely throws me out of it. It also seems that I need to scan it first and while the scanning has a lock as well, actually starting it is a whole other process that usually ends with me taking tons of damage.

[south mist]

you don't need to scan it but you'll want to get all the red scans for 100%. The scan progress also stays if you stop so you can scan a bit, dodge, scan a bit etc

[oblique lava]

Oh shit, that's really useful to know. Going to give it another try tomorrow.

[harsh shadow]

GRAPPLES

[south flower]

For those emulating Metroid Prime Trilogy Wii, are you using OpenGL or Vulcan?

[spare umbra]

I've never had much trouble with the plant boss. 🤔

[scenic oyster]

PrimeHack giving me guff out here 😔

[plucky bolt]

you're still early enough to switch to primehack or the switch remaster?

[lament oak]

Only 9 completions so far?

Looks like the majority used the remastered

[plucky bolt]

yeah thats what im doing. it's a really great remaster honestly

[gusty meteor]

Got super missile, TIL Tallon IV and Zebes are in the same system

[lament oak]

The updated twin stick controls is why I did remastered

The og is just fine, but a little clunky by today standards

[lament oak]

Thats the original planet from zero mission right?

[gusty meteor]

Yeah

[lament oak]

Maybe they don't have intergalactic travel

[gusty meteor]

I think SR388 from Fusion is another system

[lament oak]

Yeah i looked it up, prime 3 is in a different solar system

[gusty meteor]

Oh I never played 3

[lament oak]

Intresting enough, Earth exists in the lore

"According to the instruction manuals of the Metroid and Super Metroid games, it is the location of Galactic Federation Headquarters.[1][2] The planet was not well depicted until Metroid: Other M and is where humans originated from. Earth is located in the Solar system"

[plucky bolt]

yeah earth and humans do exist in the lore. samus is originally human but got imbued with chozo dna or soemthing

[gusty meteor]

Was she born on earth though?

[plucky bolt]

no she was born on a mining colony iirc

but still human. just not on earth

[lament oak]

Only mention of Samus’ birthplace according to the wiki is in the manga

K-2L a mining colony

[lament oak]

So basically part velociraptor

https://tenor.com/view/samusdance-vibestar-super-metroid-samus-aran-gif-20430550

[thorn tide]

Is spider ball about halfway? Really loving it so far, kinda wish I could dash outside of being locked on but that's just my add

[long apex]

Alright, I think I’m done. I tried giving this another shot, but it’s just really trying my patience. Just spent an hour exhausting all my open paths I can see after getting the morph ball and I’m stuck. Found the artifact of truth and two different ways down to magmoor, but can’t explore in there. There’s a burning dome place the map keeps trying to get me to go see, but every path I try is blocked or requires some missing ball augment I don’t have.

[steady smelt]

I would not bother playing this game without a guide. Don't have the patience.

[cunning seal]

Just about done! I've got all the upgrades except for the ||Phazon Suit and Phazon Beam|| and I'm just hunting around for the last few artifacts I'm missing ^_^

[shut cobalt]

Who wants to tell Skippy?

[lament oak]

That last few artifact || requires the phazon suit ||

[cunning seal]

Oh >.>

Whelp, I know there's 3 artifacts left for me to find in Phendrana and 2 in the Phazon mines, so I'll look for the ones in Phendrana first then go down to the mines. And yes, 5 is more than "a few" but math has never been my strong point XD

[gusty meteor]

I just got the thermal visor and haven’t really had a hard time so far. Main thing to remember is that your next objective is usually either “you got a new power, so go find somewhere to use it to open a new door- the map should help” or the map will proactively pop up an alert telling you where to go next.

I think the alerts generally happen if it’s outside the zone you’re currently in, otherwise you can probably stay in the same area

[steady smelt]

Yeah that is the only way I progressed without a guide. Dick around long enough until the game is like "hey dummy, go here".

[fiery moat]

You can turn that off also

[obtuse haven]

The immersion of the Wii controls is a vibe

[spare umbra]

Exactly 🙂

[gusty meteor]

Spider ball get

[obtuse haven]

Glad that missiles are just as useless as I remember

[lament oak]

They are pretty vital for later bosses

[agile fiber]

Time for the sequel

[lament oak]

Rumble included!

[plucky bolt]

its actually very good lol

like genuinely its a cool pinball game

[earnest sundial]

Damn thardus boss is kicking my butt!

[eager pulsar]

There’s a trick to beating them, let us know if you want a hint

[earnest sundial]

Yes please

[native rapids]

Just got gravity suit

|| Is that about half way? Game save says about 40%||

[shut cobalt]

percentage is based on things you've found, not progress, so there's really no correlation there

[eager pulsar]

So you should have realised that the aim of the boss fight is ||to knock the sun mirrors out of position||

When you fight the boss, notice that ||while it doesn’t do any damage, shooting the head of the plant still has an effect on its behaviour ||

[native rapids]

So no then? Less than half?

[ionic linden]

Gravity suit is pretty late. You're getting close

[native rapids]

Back tracking getting to me. Just that you make one wrong turn and now you are closer taking an elevator back to overworld than back tracking/unable to go the way you came from

Too far into it now, hopefully get done with it this week

[gusty meteor]

Thardus is a different boss, the ||rock one.|| The hint for that one is to ||use your special eyes||

@earnest sundial

[earnest sundial]

Thanks

[eager pulsar]

Oh ffs, my bad, thank you for the correction

[native rapids]

|| Use thermal visor to locate target, after the first couple of hits you should know more or less which part to keep on hitting (or just keep using thermal visor)||

[tribal knoll]

Oh boy, just started the OG GameCube version for this GOTX. Have not played since I was a kid, and forgot how clunky the controls were. Less then an hour of gameplay and it clicks in my head, and I am now playing about as well as I did as a kid

[south mist]

if you can trick yourself into not thinking of it as a shooter, the controls aren't as bad as they seem

[gusty meteor]

Feels 0% clunky to me, especially compared to other retro games… it looks and feels much more modern than it is imo. But yeah, it’s not a post-COD4 shooter

[native rapids]

The fanboy in me loves the old GameCube "Have to hold cannon to look around" technique

The modern day fps fan in me very much enjoys the faster "just use the R stick for camera" aspect

[south mist]

if holding L let me strafe when I wasn't locked on, it would fix my one problem

[obtuse haven]

If I were a ||chozo ghost|| I'd be offended by how much I'm ignoring them

[next tendon]

last night I was finally able to dive back in and the deck in my opinion is the best way to play the switch version

[lament oak]

https://tenor.com/view/but-thats-just-my-opinion-just-what-i-think-my-thoughts-thats-my-two-cents-thats-how-i-see-it-gif-14185830

[long apex]

Well, I got the boost ball. Made some progress.

[oblique fractal]

I’m just relieved to see that no one has made a fan song called “Lean Like a Chozo”

[native rapids]

I started playing with no guide and near zero recall from back in the day

Dam, i don't got time for that.

So now I use the guide whenever I feel like I've exhausted my exploration

[gusty meteor]

[stiff shoal]

Grabbed the power bombs and grapple hook, hopefully that's nearly all the upgrades

[ionic linden]

I think you have 4 required powerups left

[stiff shoal]

Geez way more than I thought

[ionic linden]

Oh wait, just 3 I mean. A beam, a visor, and something from a boss

[stiff shoal]

I guess it makes sense there's a other beam, can't imagine what the visor is for

[next tendon]

I'm seriously amazed by how good the remaster looks

But I was playing the original when I was testing the 556 and this game is just beautiful to look at.

[lament oak]

@next tendon curious as to why you said the deck was a better experience than the switch for the remaster

[next tendon]

Because you can remap inputs

I have my r2 trigger set to hairline and as a turbo button for rapid shooting and the gyro mapped to the A button for when I need to power up a shot and aim it.

[lament oak]

Probably helps with super missiles too

[thorn tide]

Yeah remapping on the deck saved me as someone who only uses their index finger for both shoulder buttons

Haven't seen anyone post a deck completion screenshot though, hope it's playable all the way through. Been backing up my save a bunch just to be safe

[ionic linden]

I did it up to mines on Deck, but my son wanted to see me fight the Omega Pirate so I did that part on PC. Then just finished the rest PC too

[thorn tide]

I'm at mines now so we'll see

[eager pulsar]

I’m also at the mines. I expected to finish this game quickly but it’s now the 20th and here we are

[native rapids]

You did this to me @eager pulsar

[eager pulsar]

But tell me, isn’t the game lovely?

[native rapids]

No, you're right it has been a great revisit

And the GotM aspect makes me return to it, as opposed to just leaving it when I get stuck

[stiff shoal]

Prime is taking me longer in the month than I though, mostly due to PrimeHack requiring me to play on PC

[south flower]

Yea my issue has been restarting three times trying to find the version I'm going to stick to 😛

[stiff shoal]

Primehack has felt great since the beginning (besides for the keyboard controls to switch visors and beams)

[faint monolith]

I'm going to say something controversial

I like prime 2 more than prime 1

I need to get back into my prime one playthrough, I'm pretty close to the end of the game

[faint monolith]

Definitely, feels great on the deck

[earnest sundial]

35 mins of save scumming in thardus

But finally defeated him

That was a tough difficulty spike

[faint monolith]

Thardus didn't kill me at all in my first playthrough lol
What did was the big version of those ice guys that was a boss

[scenic oyster]

I tried PrimeHack but this game actually does feel like it wasn't made for mouse aiming

I think I also have a bit of work to do getting the display to fill out my monitor's vertical space

[fiery moat]

I am almost back to the Pirate on basically my second play through this month. Switch remaster is better than the GC DOOM controls. GC game is very dark also.

[fiery moat]

I will play 2 when a remaster happens. Not going back to GC bullshit controls.

Also this game is made to be played on a TV not a handheld. IMO

I though Thardus was one of easier bosses. Just a bit too long and repetitive.

[faint monolith]

Play prime trilogy

/primehack

[fiery moat]

I am ok. Dislike M&K for controls .

[obtuse haven]

Buy a used Wii for 40 dollars or euros, obtain a legal copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy™️, back it up and play the backup on the Wii after softmodding it (so that you can reduce the risks of scratching the disk to a minimum, of course), enjoy the best controls for Prime by far

[south mist]

primehack has twin stick controller support too

[shut cobalt]

I really hope they have 2 and 3 ready to go as ways to string us along until the Super Switch

[lament oak]

@fiery moat Primehack also has xinput support. Been playing 2 with an Xbox controller

[lament oak]

At this point I hope Metroid prime 4 is a lunch title

[shut cobalt]

same

though i'm starting to suspect that MP4 is Nintendo's version of Half-Life 3

[obtuse haven]

To be fair wasn't it rebooted in 2019

Though we are 5 years after the reboot and it's been 17 years since the last Metroid prime

[stiff shoal]

Beat the Omega Pirate, that should be all the upgrades now

[ionic linden]

Yep, now just to collect artifacts and then two more bosses in a very small area are left

[stiff shoal]

Artifacts might be a hassle, I'm considering just using a guide

I think I have 5 currently, so 7 more

[fiery moat]

but no bomb jump

[solemn marten]

THARDUS

[native rapids]

go go MP session

[thorn tide]

Damn I was sweating going through that maze for the ||power bomb||

Barely had any health left

[solemn marten]

Woo beat THARDUS. Man that guy had a lot of hp

[stiff shoal]

Grabbed all the artifacts, I'll do the endgame tomorrow

The artifact hints are actually really good, had no problem tracking them down

[ionic linden]

Did you use charged wave beam shots? Always use charged shots and not just regular shots. I think you also have super missiles then yeah? Those do tons of damage

[stiff shoal]

Regular shots do almost no damage to anything

[lament oak]

Missiles are the way to go

[fiery moat]

How I beat him. Just battle still lasted to long to me. Two less areas to kill would of been great. Since the boss loop is basic.

[spare umbra]

Thardus was not fun.

And this game really needs to be played with a walkthrough.

At least I know there are quite a few areas that the Spider Ball can be used in.

[earnest sundial]

I also just defeated Thardus, but then stopped cos I can't recall all the areas that uses spider ball. Was going to consult a guide to do the backtracking. Starting to doubt that i am going to complete this before months end

[spare umbra]

Ikr?

The backtracking is an unbelievable slog.

[solemn marten]

Yeah I used charged wave beams. I initially used super missiles but ran out pretty early into his huge hp pool

Actually I'm finding that charged beams are really the best and only way to beat anything I'm running into at this point. SotN was cooking when they added the exp mechanic to this style of game. It's nice to be able to just smash through areas sometimes because you're a high enough level

If nothing else this game has solidified my desire to play Curse of Darkness

[obtuse haven]

Aren't you guys receiving the pings every 15 minutes saying where to go next

I thought those were annoying while I was wandering around and exploring

[harsh shadow]

I got all the equipment and realized that the artifacts aren't optional collectables

Now to get a guide and go find them so I can kill Ridley

[shut cobalt]

The statues are a guide

[ionic linden]

The number of people forcing their way through and not jiving with the game at all are saddening me

[shut cobalt]

There are different ways to experience things. There’s nothing wrong with using a guide.

[native rapids]

Dam sequence breakers

[ionic linden]

I'm under the impression that they're not really enjoying it and are forcing themselves to beat it

[icy elk]

Same impression I'm getting. I use a guide for nearly everything, but that doesn't necessarily indicate if I'm enjoying the experience.

[solemn marten]

Feeling called out lol

Honestly there are things about the game that I'm enjoying. Slowly discovering lore through the scanner is great. The music and atmosphere are on point.

I think there's something here as far as the gameplay, and there are segments of the game that I think are executed really well, but there are also segments that are just tedious. I think part of that is growing pains, and part of it is that I don't really like Metroid. Still, why not beat it? Maybe I will "get" it by the end

Don't b sad 😢

[ionic linden]

Are you killing all enemies you see? Backtracking never feels tedious to me, but I rush through rooms. Even if you get hit by enemies passing them, it doesn't matter. In Magmoor I'll jump through the lava because it's faster

[solemn marten]

Ummm don't you have to kill a bunch of them to get the door to open

Or how does that mechanism work anyway. Sometimes I get to a door and it's like "please wait...
...
..."

[obtuse haven]

One thing I noticed the second time playing it is how much in your face some enemy encounters are

You are chilling during exploration with various enemies and platforming sections and suddenly LOUD MUSIC SHOOT THE FAST ENEMIES A LOT

The encounter music pieces in particular, at least on the Wii version, are jarring

Noticed it both for ||pirates|| and ||chozo ghosts||

[shut cobalt]

Sometimes. But there are very few rooms that work that way

[agile fiber]

backtracking in prime was one of those things that felt tedious but if I actually timed how long I spent on it, it would've probably taken way less time than I thought. it's more the feeling of seeing the same rooms again and again and again.

[solemn marten]

I wouldn't describe my experience with that as "very few" :/

[ionic linden]

You only need to kill enemies if there is a door lock on the door, which seldom happens. If it takes a second to open, that's just load times being slow. GameCube version was really slow

[solemn marten]

Huh, doesn't dolphin have a load time hack

I wonder if I can shorten that

[rigid glade]

I'm greatful for every FPS that manages to squeeze through voting

Not every genre is for everyone

Some only like nintendo platformers or snes jrpgs and that's fine

[harsh shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-moranis-are-you-the-gatekeeper-ghostbusters-horse-gif-9322927

[obtuse haven]

We're only getting started with Doom and its mods 👀

[earnest sundial]

I have started doing this after figuring out where I needed to go after getting spider ball. Previously I was clearing rooms

[faint monolith]

Going to be real with you, the progression in the first Metroid prime is probably the worst in the entire Metroid series aside from other m but that game doesn't count

It's by far the least polished in terms of world design, it's just propped up by the very immersive nature of a first person game

[faint monolith]

And this is the problem. The back tracking is done in a way that is by far the least cohesive of the entire series

[south mist]

they should have put more swing points for fast travel late in the game tbh

[obtuse haven]

Also, let me ask the real questions: if the chozo spent their entire time contemplating the nature of the universe why is samus so ripped

And what were the chozo doing with all these weapons laying around for samus to pick back up

Were they the 'peace through superior firepower ' kind of race or nah

[lament oak]

You can shoot stuff for sport

Maybe they had some really badass college sport programs

And the Metroid threat probably made the chozo switch gears tbf

[native rapids]

Yeh, it's like the stories we all heard B4. Very intelligent race, they create amazing tech, become peaceful, fuck themselves up with said tech ||& then a rogue group of "the old days" bunch band together and take over a research station to make the ultimate bio-weapon||

[obtuse haven]

Wait what game are you referring to with this lore lmao

[native rapids]

All of them

I put up spoilers for those who have not played Samus Returns or Dread

[obtuse haven]

Oh yeah, the stuff in the spoiler tags was what I meant

Endearing lol

[native rapids]

This guy was definitely Div 1 All-Country in whatever sport he wanted.

[obtuse haven]

Their cousins became the Turian

[harsh shadow]

REST IN PISS RIDLEY

[south mist]

I think the plasma cannon and ice beam are supposed to be tools that the space pirates/samus change into weapons

[harsh shadow]

how in the fuck are you supposed to platform in this room with infinity morphing metroids?

[lament oak]

Wait till they group, power bomb, then pray and run

It’s annoying af

[agile fiber]

I made the mistake of trying to fight them for like 20 minutes

[harsh shadow]

bullshit mechanic

[stiff shoal]

Ditto

Bastard didn't go down easy

[agile fiber]

final boss took me a few tries and I had to do that runback every time. it's possible to get it fairly consistent: ||I platformed to the first "shelf," power bombed, and then platformed to the door||

[south mist]

||get to stone fists where you can jump up. Jump to the last one before the floating platforms. Kill one metroid (powerbomb is easiest way), jump as a fast as you can on the floating platforms and run into the missile room. Leave that, follow the cave, kill 2 metroids, finish jumping and running through to the exit door||

[shut cobalt]

The impact crater was hands down the most annoying part of the game. The key is to ||ignore them as much as you can and just go||

[faint monolith]

Lore that would be a spoiler

[faint monolith]

this man did not read the manga

[stiff shoal]

That's a Metroid Prime down

And credits roll

Really excited to play the rest of the series, but this is an excellent start

Some quibbles about world structure and not the most exciting bosses aside, loved it

[lament oak]

The bosses are the weak point of the series imo but the exploration and atmosphere makes up for it

[stiff shoal]

Ridley was also pretty fun

If just for the big dragon part

Metroid Prime Part 1 boss was also good

Part 2 and the rest of the bosses ain't the best

[eager pulsar]

So, will there be a save point between Ridley and final boss?

I’m just starting the mines, so a way away yet

[lone nebula]

The trek from the first save in the Phazon Mines to the second save is a complete slog. Haven't felt like the saves were too spaced out until now.

Feels like there should be another save point in between

[agile fiber]

There’s a save right after Ridley.

[shut cobalt]

||yes||

There’s a ||missile station, too||

[eager pulsar]

Oh o have this to look forward to, what joy

[shut cobalt]

That starts to happen later in the game. It’s like the timer in Mario games. Artificial difficulty

[lone nebula]

Mental preparation is half the battle

[lone nebula]

My least favorite kind, good to know

[sonic quarry]

I really wanna finish this one. We've been so busy prepping the house/moving that I've barely scratched the surface I feel. I just got the rolly bomb from the flamethrower boss. I assume I'm not very far.

[gusty meteor]

Not that long a game tbh. One good weekend can knock it out.

[lament oak]

You still got 8 days Dw

[gusty meteor]

Yeah just remember it’s a short month, don’t get to Feb 26 and think you still have a week

[tribal knoll]

I just got the ||X-ray visor || moments ago

[south flower]

Dude I just unlocked missiles, I've got a waaaays to go lol

[solemn marten]

I just don't understand why these lava worms take three charged shots to kill

Once you beat the first one and master the spacing there's no challenge, so why waste my time

Stop resisting the exp mechanic Nintendo

[faint monolith]

nintendo didn't make metroid prime, retro studios did

[fiery moat]

You're very correct. If someone holds this game as one of the best every. They will still tell you're wrong for not liking their favorite game.

[hot loom]

Same. Prime 1 ultimately does a better job of nailing the classic Metroid formula, but then Prime 2 just really creates something new and wild that never fails to captivate me.

[faint monolith]

Honestly, I don't think prime 1 does that great of a job

it's probably the worst the classic formula is done in the main series, though we have several other prime games for reference and time to show the cracks

maybe i'm just a hater

[stiff shoal]

When's Prime 2 being nominated

[hot loom]

Whenever the theme fits I guess

[hot loom]

You might be 😝

I dunno, I love original Prime, but I do agree that I enjoy Prime 2 more

[faint monolith]

prime 1 is just very rough in some places in terms of the game design

[hot loom]

For their first outing at this formula though, I mean, it was revolutionary at the time

They definitely learned important lessons that carried through into 2 and 3

[faint monolith]

metroid prime was years ahead of its time, definitely

as much as i'm frustrated by a lot of the design decisions it's still a really good game

[hot loom]

Yeah

[faint monolith]

just not nearly as good as it could have been

[native rapids]

Prime 2 has different ending right?

[fiery moat]

I think it is a very padded game.

[hot loom]

Nah Prime 2 just has one ending but nice try

I wouldn't bet on it winning the very next month after Prime 1 anyway. Everyone gonna be burned out for a bit need a breather

[lament oak]

Burned out and wanting castlevania :/

[spare umbra]

Castlevania Bloodlines sounds awesome. I hope it wins.

[stiff shoal]

Star Ocean 2 sounds awesome, vote for it

[harsh shadow]

Blue Sphere is better in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY

[stiff shoal]

If by better you mean worse then yes

[harsh shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-coward-gif-10336863

[south mist]

the xp mechanic is new weapons. Hit them with icebeam + missile and they're done

[solemn marten]

Thank god

I want a quadruple jump too

[solemn marten]

I tend to agree with this. There are a few segments that have been really tight, but I rarely feel like any upgrade opens up like a huge swath of gameplay, it's more like I have to backtrack the entire map to find a small area that's now accessible

I wish this game were linear lol

[south flower]

oof, that's a hot take

Isn't the backtracking what makes it a Metroid game?

[fiery moat]

Just to get your extra missiles. I already have 120 and everyone drops them. Why do I need 125 now?

[south flower]

To spam bosses I guess?

[solemn marten]

But it's so good when it's linear!

[fiery moat]

Most bosses are super simple. Just spongy.

[solemn marten]

Like this game specifically

[south flower]

Fair

On both points

[fiery moat]

I like openess of the game. Just wish there was little more rewarding when opening something up or solving a puzzle. Reminds me a lot of BotW where you just get seeds when finding new stuff. Nothing that rewarding feeling to me.

[hot loom]

You're going to need as many missles as you can muster for the final boss, trust me

Beam combos big winners for that fight

[fiery moat]

I am at 180 do I need more? Have all the life tanks besides one? Haven't found a boss battle hard yet.

[stiff shoal]

.. you can use missiles?

[hot loom]

[stiff shoal]

There was a whole ||color coding puzzle for weapons,|| where were missiles involved

[hot loom]

Beam combos

[stiff shoal]

.. what are beam combos

[hot loom]

Super missle wavebuster ice spreader flamethrower

[stiff shoal]

I didn't even think of using those, range was too short on most

I just stayed back and fired charge shots

Game isn't very hard imo, didn't need to think extra

[hot loom]

No not terribly

[stiff shoal]

I think my hardest fight was Ridley? Claw dash was difficult to dodge

And I still went down to like 1/2 health minimum

[hot loom]

Maybe I've just fought Ridley too many times, but he's always a total chump

[stiff shoal]

Second phase was the tough part

First was a pushover

Though I think I was doing it very inefficiently

[lament oak]

The main challenge of the game was finding a save room after a boss fight before you died

[hot loom]

I do admittedly missle spam Ridley by using the missle cancel glitch so

[stiff shoal]

I could only get one missle in every chest reveal

[obtuse haven]

Super missiles absolutely wreck ||elite pirates|| lol

Two super missiles to the face and they're down

[old inlet]

I'm still greedy bastard and using plasma beam for them

[fiery moat]

Wait people are dying.

[lament oak]

Plasma beam is great too. Super high damage

[old inlet]

Also, met some weirdness. Cannot find the very last power bomb upgrade. Revisited all locations, got each and every but still have 8 of 10

[agile fiber]

I finished the game with 80 missiles and none of the beam upgrades

[old inlet]

My faux-OCD won't allow that luxury xD

[south flower]

MORPH BALL LETSSSS GOOOO!

[native rapids]

You got this!

[solemn marten]

Hax

[gusty meteor]

I haven't (re)finished it but every bit so far screams metroid

[sonic quarry]

Just got the varia suit. Ran through the lava area and ended up in an icicle zone without finding an upgrade. Guess I gotta backtrack.

Me after the plant boss. I'm bad at this.

[spare umbra]

I'm just as bad, believe me. Constantly getting stuck and resorting to a walkthrough.

[south flower]

After about 10 minutes, the game will buzz you with a map update that points you in the right direction but I can appreciate wanting to be a bit more productive with a guide.

[sonic quarry]

This game looks great on Dolphin

I bet it was a trip for fans of the series when it was first released

[south flower]

Yea I've been enjoying the GC version a lot

Wii trilogy was just too tempermental with keybinds for the wiimote

[sonic quarry]

I said it earlier, but this game reminds me a lot of Returnal.

[south mist]

this is true but I do like finding the secrets the new equipment unlocks

[lament oak]

Better story here

[solemn marten]

I will say I love the morph ball boost leading you to find half pipes in the environment you might have ignored earlier

[old inlet]

I can be wrong but I recall an interview where Returnal's creators said that Metroid was one of their primary inspiration draws

[fiery moat]

So Returnal's reminds people of MP ?

[sonic quarry]

Depends on which you played first!

[fiery moat]

#1202565002297606154 message

[sonic quarry]

Are there other Metroids that are first person of the same quality?

[old inlet]

You mean the Metroid or Metroid-like? If the latter, I can recall only Exhumed/Powerslave from PS1/Saturn

Despite it's graphics aged badly, I enjoyed it

[sonic quarry]

It could honestly be whichever series. First person metroidvania is welcome.

[south mist]

powerslave got a pc release with some qol improvements

https://www.gog.com/en/game/powerslave_exhumed

also not first person, but if 3rd person is close enough, Arkham Asylum is great

[shut cobalt]

Prime 2 and Prime 3

[sonic quarry]

I heard it can be played on yuzu!

[south mist]

jedi fallen order was a fun 3d metroidvania too

I haven't played the sequel

[lament oak]

Jedi survivor is aight

I think I enjoyed fallen order more since it was super cheap

[lament oak]

There’s the ds Metroid prime hunters

[sonic quarry]

Say less

[lament oak]

There’s the ds Metroid pinball

[agile fiber]

pseudoregalia was a hidden gem last year. it got a bunch of attention when it was featured in an iron pineapple video. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2365810/Pseudoregalia/ 3rd person metroidvania

[oblique lava]

Switched to the Switch remake and holy shit are the twin stick controls better.

Dunno if it's just my RP3+ but just didn't vibe with the controls on the original.

[sonic quarry]

Have you tried mouse and keyboard

[oblique lava]

Nah and not going to.

[fiery moat]

This was me also

Beat the Pirate in 90 seconds. Lol

[fiery moat]

Ok have all the artifacts

[earnest sundial]

I just defeated Chozo ghost. I hope to make more progress this weekend on the game, and even if i dont beat before months end, i will still continue playing. Frustrations aside (backtracking + respawning enemies) this game is unbelievably good. Playing GC version

[rigid glade]

Jedi Survivor is better in every way, except performance, though not in a mentroidvania way and I never heard anyone call Fallen Order a metroidvania, though I see why it may seem like it. It wants to be an action game and all the unnecessary running around is testiment of its poor level design (imo). Apparently Fallen Order was very rushed and a lot of planned content didn't make it into the game, so they just added stuff to the worlds they had done already, that's why you return to Zeffo a second time, etc. Jedi Survivor seems a more polished version of that vision, closer to an action rpg with KOTOR like world system, so you will unlock planets in a scripted story order, but once on a planet you've pretty much free to do whatever.

[obtuse haven]

"Surely I have enough energy tanks to get past this phazon morph ball area"

He did not have enough energy tanks.

[faint monolith]

Prime 2 is better than prime 1 and prime 3 is... interesting

[hot loom]

I haven't managed to finish 3 so far. Last time I got burned out because I played Zero Mission, AM2R, Super Metroid, and Metroid Fusion before loading up Primehack to do 1, 2, and 3 and just gave up like halfway through 3 😅

[fiery moat]

why is it better?

[faint monolith]

puzzles are better, the game is a tougher which is something i like, the world design is more refined and the progression is leagues better

[fiery moat]

Wait there are puzzles in Prime?

[faint monolith]

some yeah

[fiery moat]

I meant in this one. You just scan and the game tells you want to do. I don't see as a puzzle. Personally

I guess the map system is a puzzle in itself.

[faint monolith]

the game ending fetch quest in prime 2 is a little worse than the one in prime 1, though both are pretty damn bad

[fiery moat]

Can you get hints from a fake Stonehenge?

[faint monolith]

both games give you hints but in prime 1 you can get a couple of the chozo artifacts before the end game

in prime 2 almost all of them you need the (final upgrade) for

[fiery moat]

True, I had 8 before trying to find the last 4

Is the lore better in 2? The scans for lore in this one are just meh to me.

[faint monolith]

the lore is definitely better in 2

it's mostly still done through scans but the scan visor is definitely better

and some of it isn't done through scans

I personally find it to be a lot better of a game, but it's also quite a bit longer so it's not something as replayable

[fiery moat]

more rooms? or bigger rooms?

[faint monolith]

Some of both

Also the dark world

[fiery moat]

Well lets hope for a switch remake. I am not playing on GC or Wii remaster.

[south mist]

finding the 4 things to scan to open a door counts as a puzzle I think or the same with the power nodes you need to wave beam

[fiery moat]

Lame. Not really a puzzle to me.

[south mist]

not great puzzles admittedly

[faint monolith]

I think they'll release a prime trilogy remaster before prime 4 launches

[fiery moat]

How were the sells on this remake? I know Metroid doesn't do too well as Nintendo IP.

2.8 million on the GC and 1.09 on the switch remaster. While Link's awakening remaster sells 6.46 million.

[native rapids]

That's kind of crazy considering the sales and praise that Dread received

[fiery moat]

3.04 million for Dread. Still not beating Link's Awakening. Plus Dread is a new game. Like I said Metroid isn't the best at selling games.

[native rapids]

Yeh, definitely why we have not seen an F Zero either

[fiery moat]

I never see why all the hype for F Zero

[faint monolith]

That's not why, actually

Allegedly it's because they couldn't think of any ideas worth making a new f zero game for

[gusty meteor]

Got the ||gravity suit||

Not sure how far that is, maybe 75%

[tribal knoll]

For those emulating on GC version on dolphin I am experiencing an bug where the game will flicker between wide screen and normal aspect ratios during the ||Meta Riddly || fight. I have not experienced anything like this bug in other parts of the game before

[fiery moat]

And done.

[lament oak]

Thoughts, concerns, queries?

[fiery moat]

It was a fun enough. Not worth the praise or hype. But still a good game. The GC controls are horrible. The remaster help fix it.

[lament oak]

Do you see yourself revisiting the game in 10 years?

[fiery moat]

No, but I would play the second one.

[tribal knoll]

Regardless of the aspect ratio bugging put I just beat the game

Game was just as good as I reme remember from my childhood

[spare umbra]

Congratulations on beating the game, guys. 🙂

[oblique lava]

OH I NEED TO SHOOT THE SUNLIGHT REFLECTORS MULTIPLE TIMES

I feel like a huge ass now

Had a bit of a gaming journalist moment

[spare umbra]

😛

I have those kinds of moments all the time.

[long apex]

Or 1 full charge shot.

[oblique lava]

Well anyway the plant boss is finally dead and I can proceed with the rest of the game.

Almost dropped the game due to malding when I just shoot the reflector once and it immediately goes back down. Thought the game was bullshitting me.

[lament oak]

17 completions so far - Let's go!!!!

[south mist]

Are you using gecko code for widescreen? That was perfectly stable for me

[tribal knoll]

I was keeping normal aspect ratio throughout the game, and I tried turning off cheats and codes as well but still had issues. Some reddit post with this exact issue was made, and they mentioned this might be a bug related to that build of dolphin for a handful of games

[obtuse haven]

Do i have to abstain from uploading my completion in order to win my bet

[fiery moat]

Only 40 more people have to beat for it to be something the community really wanted to play.

[faint monolith]

this just in, people say metroid prime is good because they heard everyone else say it

[fiery moat]

It's good. It gets becomes a slog at points. Waiting for 2 to be remastered. I personally didn't like the GC controls. Remaster fixes it

[solemn marten]

Mine always does that when I go between morph ball and standing. I forget which direction

[solemn marten]

I finally "beat" Metroid Prime tonight, in that I admitted to myself that I don't like playing it and it's not a failure of any kind if I just stop

How do I claim completion credit for this

[ionic linden]

Please consult with your nearest unemployment agency

But good on you for knowing when to quit. I think we especially in this group get too caught up with beating these things. Video games are supposed to bring pleasure. If you're not jiving, just stop

[worthy lichen]

I just got the ||X ray visor||. Hoping i have enough time in the next 5 days to finish this one since I am enjoying it. I can easily see how it could be frustrating though. I did end up googling what to do once tonight

[ionic linden]

That's one of the very final upgrades, so should be easily doable. I'd say 4 hours max of content after that

[worthy lichen]

I think my game time so far is about 8.5 hours, so I think that puts me in line with hltb averages. If I can knock out a couple hours tomorrow I should be able to put in a couple more before the end of the month 🤞

[shut cobalt]

do you have any artifacts yet?

[earnest sundial]

i have gotten it as well. Gotten 2 artifacts randomly while doing puzzles in the rooms.

[eager pulsar]

||”the dead should serve the living”||

For some reason I received this as full “ouch”

[eager pulsar]

Getting nervous about finishing in time. Any idea how far the ||elite pirate || is from the end I know I need heat gun, x-Ray vision and probably something else so that feels like quite a few upgrades

[stiff shoal]

The || elite pirate is in the mines, right? ||

[lament oak]

||Elite pirate or omega pirate?||

[eager pulsar]

Right

[stiff shoal]

Follow up with the same question

[eager pulsar]

||elite||

[stiff shoal]

After you beat the first area of the mines there isn't too much left from my recollection

Just need to get those artifacts quick enough

[eager pulsar]

Im on the second level of the mines

Although the room I’m in is called ||omega research|| so based on @lament oak ‘s question, I fear the worst

[stiff shoal]

You can do it, but you might need to push

Hopefully the rest of your weekend is free

[ionic linden]

4-5 hours left probably

[lament oak]

Yeah that’s a good estimate I would say

[eager pulsar]

Perfect, thank you

In good news, my boss is overseas mon-weds

I did not like the ||cloaking robots that you can’t target||

[worthy lichen]

I only have the first artifact so far. Seems like I’ll need to consult a guide or not worry about finishing on time

[eager pulsar]

I’ve worked out the location of about 6 artefacts only to find I don’t have the required upgrades yet. Many people here are saying not to worry about them until everything else is beat.

But if you’re talking about the one ||in the magma power station|| that really kinda early on and yeah, you’ll need to get a sprint on to complete in time imho

[hot loom]

I've just gotten the xray and grapple and I'm not super worried about making it in time, I think you folks will be alright

[eager pulsar]

Yeah, you’re at least 2 upgrades ahead of me

[hot loom]

Technically yes, but if you just grabbed the power bombs like I think you did you're literally like three rooms from the grapple

And the xray is pretty simple to snag

[eager pulsar]

Right, got the grapple hook. You might have been right, that was a supprise

[eager pulsar]

And wow, got the x-Ray vision. You were right, that was quick

[dire bronze]

Just got the gravity boots and entered the pirate room place for the first time. Chances I'll make it? I work the next three days so I kinda have like two days left

Tbh I'm really enjoying this so far but it can get frustrating and I end up needing a break. Really want a completion tho

Also, does the game require all artifacts or is it like a better ending kinda thing?

[lament oak]

Requires all

[dire bronze]

oof

[eager pulsar]

Is this the right time to go artifact hunting, or are there more upgrades to get?

[eager pulsar]

Oh wait, there must be a fire beam

[hot loom]

Yeah maybe grab plasma right quick. It's in Magmoor

[eager pulsar]

Yeah I’m getting the “incoming scan” for it, I think

[hot loom]

It's a really cool little Spider platforming journey to get it

Although I've done sequence break runs with no spider ball and there are fun ways to get to the door without it as well

[eager pulsar]

Oh my god I hated that spider platforming journey

Anyway got the fire beam. Is that it for upgrades? Let’s see what artifacts I can get before I intercept another message.

Out of interest, I’ve still got loads of ???? For artifact clues. Do I have to go back to the artifact statues to get the new clues?

[fiery moat]

My LZ got stuck on my controller during it. Had to redo it. Wasn’t happy

Statues. The ??? just tell you to go there.

Only had to get 4 after I took down the Omega.

Omega boss was super easy.