#AYANEO Next Lite

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west blaze
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the duo 1

zenith terrace
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Yea, itโ€™s pretty solid

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Which games are you curious about?

west blaze
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mostly just dragon quest 8

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there is a 3ds version that I'm pretty confident will run well but it just isn't as great looking in the big landscapes

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oh also final fantasy x/x-2

zenith terrace
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The SD855 should handle it

zenith terrace
west blaze
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sick

manic siren
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I feel like we are all having similar conversations on the respective devices ๐Ÿ˜„

vale flint
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Anyone received a shipping notification yet?

wraith abyss
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Kind of funny that right after we asked them about it, they rebranded it to a โ€œNext Liteโ€ case.

high ridge
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@zenith terrace now that the 100 early bird units sold through the white is in stock

zenith terrace
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I like the blue, it's purrrty

high ridge
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The white tho

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Orange accents are nice

zenith terrace
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That was the one I wanted originally

high ridge
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Want me to buy one so we can trade aaaaaaaaaaaaalolcry

zenith terrace
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nope

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lol

high ridge
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Gonna need you to compare the next lite and next pro to tell us if the only change is literally just the chip

zenith terrace
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are they selling the 4800u model yet?

high ridge
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Not yet

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Still 4500u

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I'm holding off of expensive handhelds right now cause I'd like to get a new TV for my apartment kek

zenith terrace
high ridge
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2024

zenith terrace
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and probably 2025, let's be real

high ridge
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Ayaneo AM07
3200U $99

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Ayaneo Next Lighter $199

zenith terrace
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lol

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slowly getting rid of their stock of old chips

high ridge
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Can't wait for the fire sale personally

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Cut the price in half please

zenith terrace
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90% off Next Lite

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lol

dry olive
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limpid beacon
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I think my favorite thing about the Next Lite so far is the sheer volume of discussion it has sparked

dry olive
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I think think other companies should look at this and sell these one or two year old APU in new devices at a lower cost. less Ewaste. AMD 4000-5000 series can still be useful chips for retro gaming.

wraith abyss
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high ridge
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/jk

high ridge
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Don't worry I'll sell it back to you later on for $50 less

wraith abyss
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manic siren
# wraith abyss Oh ok saddle up it's gonna be a wait.

I'm sort of hoping the plan is to ship out the early birds, build hype around the device, show people it's not just indies, and then release the rest on to the world after building FOMO about the device you can't get.....

But it's probably just Chinese New Year issues to be honest ๐Ÿ˜ž

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You have to give it to China. They do holidays right.

None of the usual western struggles getting families together at any time other than over Christmas for a few days.

The national shuts down as much as possible to make it work. For a week or two, multiple times a year. Which is a good thing in my opinion.

winter ibex
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They grind for 12hours day more usual than in west

manic siren
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Oh, for sure. It's called 996. Work from 9am to 9pm 6 days a week.

But most countries at their GDP per capita level have that without the holidays.

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I'm certainly not romanticising Chinese labour practice. But if anything, it makes it even more surprising they do holidays so well.

I mean Japan did that between the 20's and the 90's, and they were often guilt tripped into not even taking annual leave.

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It's just a really interesting/unusual set up.

bleak coral
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Itโ€™s a simple case of having huge population with limited opportunities leading to everyone simply having to compete.

haughty lagoon
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doggylol it will be like your new Roman Empire

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After the win6

haughty lagoon
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i'm more likely to get the rg556

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haughty lagoon
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same cpu performance as rk3588, but a gpu half as strong, which means it'll hit the same cpu bottlenecks and only just top off its gpu for android gaming, switch ports, and pc/console 6th gen.

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also, better battery life.

haughty lagoon
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nobody talks about the turd in that punchbowl which is the hungry 12w soc.

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the scale of power draw from 8nm/12w to 6nm/9w is a sort of essential salt to how annoying the device will be to play on with the same 5500mah tablet battery

bright stratus
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Huh

fringe umbra
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basically an ARM handheld with the power consumption of an X86 handheld

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fringe umbra
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yeah

manic siren
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Let's hope its not got the heat issues of an x86.

fringe umbra
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doesn't it have active cooling?

agile crown
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Yes but after the rp4 pro throttling stuff I get ppl being concerned

manic siren
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And ideally you want a lot of headroom for cooling. Can be more of an issue in the summer months where Air Con isn't common. Or if you live with an elderly relative that likes to keep the place toasty.

"Active cooling" doesn't mean much anyway. The RP Flip has active cooling. It doesn't do much unless you rip out some internal stuff blocking it.

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I'm not saying it does have issues. I just mean it's a bit of an unknown right now.

fringe umbra
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this is where Anbernic with the Win600 did a great thing

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that cooler was so overbuilt it was great

manic siren
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One plus point about the RP4 Pro's heat issues. Now all reviewers will be on the lookout for it in powerful devices.

fringe umbra
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yup

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but this means reviewers will probably need to invest in tech to give detailed info

manic siren
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Or just get an infra red thermometer for $15 ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe umbra
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that's one piece

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a thermal camera will cover the gaps that an IR thermometer will expose

manic siren
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Oh, sure, you can go full Phawx on it ๐Ÿ˜„

I just mean the in between is fine for most people, and we don't need every reviewer doing the same tests anyhow.

But internal temperature stats software shows doesn't tell you about hot spots on the outside. An IR thermometer will if it's anything the average person will notice.

Therm camera is best, but a combination of software letting you know if it throttles even at max fan speed (or max non-annoying fan speed) when pushed, and a cheap IR thermometer to pick up any comfort issues should be fine.

Mostly it's just knowing to look for it though. Russ barely mentioned heat in his Rp4 pro review, which is probably just because he didn't play tough stuff for long enough, or thought to look out for throttling. He even mentioned the fans could be slowed down, as temperature wasn't a problem. I am sure he would have caught it if he had thought it might be a problem.

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That's not particularly a criticism of Russ. He does great work, looks at loads of things, and got that review out really fast.

It's just something to add to the list to check, as he missed its biggest issue.

haughty lagoon
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it's like how you only need to use the silent fan setting on the Pimax Portal Retro, XP Plus, and Win1 to get enough cooling to not throttle or get sweaty palms

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capping your fan speed is one of those welcome benefits to this sort of gaming.

dry olive
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I usually run the win1 with turboboost off. It does limit the types of games I can play on it.

haughty lagoon
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yeah... it's all kinda clustered too tightly. the power efficiency is there, though. you could play Mount&Blade for an hour and only be 10% down on battery. it's a durable little device

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I wish the soc wasn't completely phased out. Would be nice to see it in the body of the RP Flip with that same blackberry keyboard up top.

peak quiver
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Items in this shipment
AYANEO NEXT LITE 4500U ร— 1
16G / 512G / Pastel Blue

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zenith terrace
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This is how every Ayaneo experience should be

bright stratus
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kek hey that's mine

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How did they send you the memo

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BastORRds doggylol

manic siren
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They will be happy when it runs a steam deck chip ๐Ÿค  (ie never)

manic siren
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For anyone who wants to give HoloIso a spin.

The step by step guide makes it seem pretty easy.

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And no, I still have no idea what changes have been made to it ๐Ÿ˜„

zealous raven
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Yep mine has shipped too. Fastest Aya experience to date ๐Ÿ˜…

manic siren
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First thing I am going to do is install HoloIso, just for the hell of it.

Then get Cemu and BotW just to spite the community spreadsheet that only gave this thing a B for Wii U emulation, when it will clearly do it fine ๐Ÿ˜„

manic siren
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Driven by the force of....just because ๐Ÿ˜„

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And generally being awkward.

manic siren
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I just think doing all games at full FPS deserves an A ๐Ÿ˜„

I think they just sort of gave it one grade less than the Steam Deck in everything. It might get changed once we see performance.

untold sinew
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They prob grabbed the next ratings and copy pasted it

manic siren
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Maybe. But given the emulators have improved it should be an A now ๐Ÿ˜„

I am still annoyed the RG35XX only got a B for PlayStation. Literally nothing it can't run at full fps with Garlic.

untold sinew
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I'd assume B is all full speed

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A with high res rendering

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S you need sticks

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At the same time, these ratings have no real meaning, only care about F

agile crown
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Pretty much

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No1 really has gone full library testing with any of these chips

manic siren
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In which case Steam Deck shouldn't get an A for Wii U doggylol

But yes. Generally useful as a reference for how consoles compare, rather than working out the difference between b a- and a.

unkempt violet
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Arriving on the 8th. Very speedy.

manic siren
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It's always funny when you IGG stuff. Sometimes spend a few months waiting....and then one day it ships and arrives from the other side of the world a few days later.

bright stratus
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linkyay good shii

wooden narwhal
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What kind of performance can this thing push out for ps2 and switch emulation

manic siren
# wooden narwhal What kind of performance can this thing push out for ps2 and switch emulation

PS2...anything, and upscaled. It's x86, so it doesn't have the compatibility issues Aethers has either, as it's using different emulators. Shouldn't need a particularly high TDP either, so battery life should be good.

Switch.....is sort of more difficult to judge. X86 Yuzu is way further along than Android Yuzu, so it's more about power than compatibility.

Fewt said, with JELOS he might be able to do TotK at full FPS, but there is no guarantee the JELOS team will get a unit. If not, it'll probably do the toughest 75% or something, and do the rest with some compromises. But difficult to judge, as most things using this chip are using older versions of Yuzu.

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Also all Wii U, some PS3, and a bit of Xbox/360. But a lot of those games you would be better off using the x86 versions anyway, which this will run much better than emulation.

wooden narwhal
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I rather play ps3 on the original hardware that haha ps2,gc and switch are usually the 3 I like to play the most

manic siren
untold sinew
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back in 2021, that chip was also nearly top of the line (for mobile low-power chips)

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only a year old

manic siren
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Aye. It's funny how cost changes perception. Looks of articles from back then comparing the Ayaneo 2021 to the Steam deck and saying it's back and forth as to which the better one is.

The Next Lite has better Ergo and a better screen than the Ayaneo 2021. But because it's cheap for an x86, people keep assuming it's indies only...

bright stratus
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A new laptop comes out every single year

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Ppl don't run to the stores thinking oh god ๐Ÿ˜จ my laptop just became a year old

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It can't run anything anymore

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kek I mean I guess some Mac bros do

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But overall it's not something real that happens powerbill

vale flint
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People are still pissed at retroid and the rp3+ release ๐Ÿ˜‰ okโ€ฆ less then a year, but no one was forced to buy the new model.

manic siren
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To be fair....it was only a 3 month gap.

The 3 was delayed due to covid.

untold sinew
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I mean

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I wouldn't fault anyone for being mad about a sizeable upgrade released so close

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it also fixed a bunch of issues that people were dealing with

agile crown
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It was less than 3 tbh but I wouldnโ€™t drag up past drama further rip those ppl I feel their pain.

vale flint
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I love drama I guess ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ˜

manic siren
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They did sort of try to make up for it. Selling 3+ boards so people who bought the 3 could upgrade.

And they learnt. They did the RP4 and 4 pro at the same time because of it.

agile crown
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Itโ€™s all in the past at this point and the rp4 launch was handled much better for sure

dry olive
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Amazing that some people are going to get their next lite this week

zenith terrace
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Mine is arriving Wednesday

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that's crazy fast

west blaze
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The first time a handheld company actually ships in a good amount of time

unkempt violet
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I think they expedited shipping due to Chinese New year. Otherwise, it would be two weeks and then some.

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Mine is coming in Thursday.

bright stratus
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When it's not igg it's good to go

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Bc they aren't bound by the obligations to pay and fix up any issues rendered with indiegogo

zenith terrace
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I don't understand why they don't just skip IGG

dry olive
zealous raven
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Sometimes IGG is easier ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…

untold sinew
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IGG is nice when it's not order-to-ship

manic siren
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Yeah, I dislike the uncertainty of IGG. Order and receive the item....at some point. Which isn't really the way IGG HAS to be. It's just the way it tends to be used.

vale flint
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You can't see any metrics on other platforms like that

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Plus igg is a legitimate platform that people more or less trust

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Ordering from random Shopify page for some ppl is deterrent and sus

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vernal jackal
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Trusting IGG is a mistake in and of itself

floral crane
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I've tipped them hundreds of dollars what do you mean they can't be trusted /s

zenith terrace
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๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

limpid beacon
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IGG is as good as the company using it. Which is to say it could be great or awful.

manic siren
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IGG is like a super power. Some people will act appropriately with it. Others will not.

bright stratus
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If Aya was scummy they could literally just not ship ๐Ÿšข

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When you sign up for a campaign and pay smth there's literally a bulletin that says they're not obligated and it doesn't assure you a product will be sent etc linkyay

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It's moreso a charitable donation

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And if happen to receive smth bc of that kek then you do otherwise oh well kinda thing

dry olive
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IGG is not a store. You are donating to a perk with the IGG contract stating you may not get that perk at all.

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manic siren
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tldw

Palworld - 1 hour 30 minutes battery at about 30fps on low image quality at uncapped TDP.
Baldurs Gate 3 - 1 hour 15 mins battery at about 30FPS on low image quality and FSR at 25 TDP.
Cyber Punk - 1 hour 15 mins of battery at 30 FPS locked on low image quality and FSR at 25 TDP.
Forza Horizon 5 - on low image quality 50 FPS at 25 TDP, or 40 FPS at 15 TDP, or 30 FPS at 12 TDP (2 hour battery life at 12 TDP)
Titanfall - 2 hours battery life on default image quality 60 FPS at 15 TDP.
Deadcells - 3 hours 30 mins of battery life at 60 FPS and 7 TDP.

So, TDP round up -

25 TDP - Cyber Punk - 1 hour 15 mins battery life
15 TDP - Titanfall - 2 hours battery life
7 TDP - Deadcells - 3 hours 30 mins battery life.

That seems pretty good to me.

vale flint
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๐Ÿ‘ โ€ฆ reasonable - but Cyberpunk results are a bit weird (low) as I remember it running better (especially with FSR) on my og 2021 aya. But probably depends on which FSR he was usingโ€ฆ

manic siren
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Take it for what it is really. The results of a reviewer using default windows and not fiddling with settings, after having the unit for a day and making a video in that time.

So, basically, this is worst case scenario.

manic siren
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Mine is in Hong Kong

manic siren
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RH being positive about the Next Lite ๐Ÿ‘

They talked about it, and NO-ONE MENTIONED THE STEAM DECK OR Z1 ALLY!!! It's just talked about like another handheld on it's own terms, not compared to more expensive stuff. Well done them.

Skipped to the right bit.

https://www.youtube.com/live/4ge9rxtGWNU?si=oiAZ8qlUViCbwTUf&t=860

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haughty lagoon
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1 hour 30 min. in Palworld at 25w. EH..... probably runs better in potato mode, which is how you run it on a 2400ge/vega11 in linux. it can only support low/medium graphics at 50w in windows

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like, for me, 480p/30fps/potato-mod gets me a little over 2 hours on the win600. if i use rivatuner, it goes a bit farther

limpid beacon
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480p 30fps... why even bother...

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lol

haughty lagoon
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Johnny on Flame does the same stuff with his. Playing Stray at 480p with a modded ini and whatnot. It's how I play biomutant at 15w

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it's a weird double standard though, innit? People cope with 20fps n64 games and 30fps nds/3ds games rendered at sub 480p, but suddenly they turn up their noses to the thought of pc games at that res

limpid beacon
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Well, those games were played on a CRT back in the day, and generally I don't like playing those old 3d games on a large screen without upscaling, either.

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n64 at native res on a 3.5" screen is ok, but not on a 7" handheld, for me.

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As far as fps, well I guess there's a difference between games locked at a FPS vs games that can run higher. Games are also designed with different target resolutions in mind.

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So, I mean I get where you're coming from, but it's not quite the same, IMO

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I mean I guess if it was my only option... maybe I am spoiled for choice.

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But how many here are buying a win600 or ayaneo next as their only device?

haughty lagoon
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win600 has run its coarse, imo.

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unless anbernic lowers the price, it's just not a good option for people.

manic siren
haughty lagoon
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on the iris 80cu gpu, maybe. amd linux drivers are kinda screwy. like... in ubuntu, my 3400g can't render SOCOM for psp properly or run palworld on low graphics beyond 10fps

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limpid beacon
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I guess I've always had a PC as well with a decent GPU as long as I can remember. So buying a device that barely scrapes by at (modern) games just doesn't do it for me. But everyone is different.

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limpid beacon
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Yeah, I grew up with PC gaming so, different audience

manic siren
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Honestly, I think a lot of people buying this will be in a similar situation. Never really dived into PC games, and the cost of entry was just a bit much.

limpid beacon
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Also let me clarify what I was saying earlier... if you are buying the next lite to play emulation and older pc titles, then by all means, it totally makes sense. I was targeting buying to run new games at 480p/10fps lol.

manic siren
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I get you. It's not my use case either, but I'm not convinced the games from 2024 are massively better than the games from 2021, so not really bothered about pushing framerates. Online gaming has never been my thing.

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But if someone wants to tinker, or if they really want to play Starfield on potato settings at 20 FPS or whatever, and this is all they can afford, that's cool, I don't judge.

limpid beacon
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Right

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I mean I'm hacking a $30 business teleconference device to play emulation, so... I really shouldn't be speaking

agile crown
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Gotta play upscaled smash yCool_Dab

limpid beacon
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When there's a steam deck OLED sitting next to it on the desk

manic siren
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limpid beacon
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I picked up a switch lite for $100 which does a much better job doggylol

manic siren
limpid beacon
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Yeah, sadly there isn't as cheap of an option for the other continent folks.

manic siren
limpid beacon
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But there are still games with issues here and there

manic siren
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Even TotK, the steamdeck can't lock 20 FPS, but neither can the switch ๐Ÿ˜„

limpid beacon
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TotK I played streamed from my desktop with RTX 4070 lol brute force

manic siren
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Probably for the best the switch 2 is coming.

We are getting close to when a lot of Switch games will be upscaled in docked mode on handhelds, and that's just embarassing for Nintendo.

limpid beacon
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Ally pretty much does all docked switch

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or any 7840u

manic siren
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Aye, I mean docked mode and 2x res

limpid beacon
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Switch 2 this year, hopefully...

patent osprey
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i hope it will be emulatable in a few years

manic siren
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If it really is not even PS4 power (likely), then...maybe.

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Whether that makes it to Android as quickly is another matter.

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Yuzu started on PC in jan 2018. Android it landed mid last year.

haughty lagoon
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Next Lite is best at 7th Gen(xbox360 era) and under tbh. it can do higher, but will never hold 60fps on anything but 2d indies and some switch crossplay ports. To some people, not not reaching 60 means it can't play a game at all. it is what it is.

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I'm old. i started gaming on the Apple 2, so it doesn't matter much to me so long as a game can be played

manic siren
haughty lagoon
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Like, i've gotten a decent bit into Wigmund on the win600. It's a current gen party action rpg that struggles to reach 30, but is still pretty fun

manic siren
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I imagine a AAA from 2020 that can play on medium settings is a better time than a 2023 game on potato settings, so I'm not fussed on the latest games. But frame rate per se isn't an issue. More just that I don't think games from 2023 are really any better than games from 2020.

manic siren
haughty lagoon
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i'm sure there were people who looked at my video on Vermintide and thought "ew... it's not 60fps." lol

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now you get to play it on the Next lite, and STILL not reach 60fps. ๐Ÿคก

vernal jackal
haughty lagoon
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one might say the same for the Odin Pro, which was selling at the same time as a hybrid android/windows machine. not amazing in either, but it happened

manic siren
haughty lagoon
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dedicated 250w gpu + a K-series cpu that can pull 88 watts

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I dunno man.

limpid beacon
vernal jackal
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Don't even talk to me unless you played Freddie the Fish and the case of the missing kelp seeds

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Only the real homies know this game

manic siren
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My first game on a BBC micro my dad got because the school he worked in was throwing it away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eJBDbrIsXc

Came also out for:


Game description:

Make your enemies crash into their trail or yours in this light cycle game.

Now unlike other light cycle games they might stop before crashing, then you have to shoot a light towards their direction and they will "come out" and then will crash into a trail sooner or later.

After some levels more an...

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Basically, snake, but you make the other player run out of space.

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AKA knock off Tron.

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All my friends had Mega Drives and SNES's. My childhood pain.

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๐Ÿ˜„

limpid beacon
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I personally didn't have the SNES but my grandpa did

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First console I actually owned myself was n64, later on.

bright stratus
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kek meanwhile me unveiling the ThinkView

zenith terrace
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That would be my reaction as a kid if I were shown the view lol

high ridge
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dry olive
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Nice.

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Rejoice y'all. Early bird next lites are shipped. We are going to be closing this thread soon. Head over to #968260439391739945 for more discussions.