AYANEO Next Lite

[stray reef]

Changed the boot logo

[manic siren]

🤷‍♂️ hopefully it'll still be good.

[eager crypt]

Heyo a free upgrade

[manic siren]

Whatever. You're just an Ayashill that defends them whatever they do.

Looks at Joey Aya reviews

Wait a minute.....

[eager crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-think-think-of-it-gif-12729650

[untold sinew]

I read that as Aynshill lmao

[wooden narwhal]

they cousins

[lean crest]

Windows 11 on a 4500u 😬

https://tenor.com/view/walkhard-deweycox-youdontwantnopartofthisshit-youdontwantnopartofthis-gif-5603420

[eager crypt]

Tell me you don't use Windows without telling me

[lean crest]

I have a windows machine

There’s always tiny 11

At this point for amd 5700u is minimum for me on stock windows

[eager crypt]

You were just complaining about using your banking app in a different city and now you want to run a modified windows iso as a PC?

I can't follow you Pope

[lean crest]

Oh I don’t like the modified isos from a security perspective either, I am just saying you’ll need some serious mods to run windows 11 well on hardware this dated (maybe you could just run stock 10?)

[eager crypt]

Or you can just run Windows 11 and realize that nonsense is a myth

[sturdy sluice]

I predict MS is already working on a handheld version of Windows and we will see it in the next year or so. I can almost guarantee ASUS executives were in a MS conference room discussing the potential before releasing the Ally. And if you think about it, they already have the framework since that’s what Windows 8 was suppose to be anyways. It failed at the time partly because no one wanted to use launcher type UI on their desktop and wanted their Start Menu back (me included).

But I don’t think MS approached Aya on this and told them to go to Windows and scrape a Linux distro. Correct me if I’m wrong - but does anyone really take Aya seriously outside its fan base and China? They kinda seem like the butt of jokes with their culturally different marketing and obsession of aesthetics over function, at least in the West.

[manic siren]

Windows 11 really isn't that tough to run.

This will handle it easily. Minimum specs for windows 11 below.

[manic siren]

I doubt the higher ups at Microsoft have even heard of Ayaneo.

[sturdy sluice]

Eh I would venture they have, at least at Microsoft Beijing. They are pretty cozy over there with China’s government and industry.

[manic siren]

I mean, if Ayaneo sell 500 units on IGG it's been a success. They are not exactly Nintendo 🤷‍♂️

[dry olive]

If microsoft was working on anything, it would be tied into the xbox store. Just like valve did with steamos. There is no incentives to make a front end for other game stores.

I almost think there needs to be a open standard interface that all game stores can use. Then it is not dominated by one game store.

[manic siren]

Same goes for streaming services for TV and movies 😄

[sturdy sluice]

Oh no doubt, we’re on the same page. Just saying the Chinese market be wild over there.

[dry olive]

one reason I like roku. video services have to be workable on that platform.

But I agree. We need standardization with UI interface. We use to have that with tv and dvd players. universal interface with different manufacturers making the same hardware.

[sturdy sluice]

Force Xbox GamePass as a prominent option in a Windows front end launcher for handheld, they’d make profit. Hell, Windows already does that since it reminds me every 5 seconds that Bing and Xbox GamePass is a thing on my fresh Windows desktop install.

[stray reef]

I agree. Microsoft isn't sleeping on the potential for a more handheld/gaming approach. They already have it a bit in windows. Well see. Probably a little gunshy from windows 8 like you said lol

[patent osprey]

i put windows 11 on a celeron n4020 laptop i had and it didn't even feel different from w10

[west blaze]

supposedly they're working on a handheld specific windows os aren't they

like its gonna be a key feature of windows 12

[lean crest]

I feel like the lesson they should (and hopefully have) taken from win8 is don’t force touch/tablet/handheld specific UI on desktop users

But that shouldn’t mean don’t make it

[vernal jackal]

A mobile focused version of Windows is the last piece of the infinity gauntlet, and will take these PC handhelds to the next level

One of the pillars that's necessary for these to go truly mainstream

Speaking from the perspective of a casual buyer, someone who doesn't really like to tinker too much, and has been using Windows all of my life. Having to learn and deal with Linux problems is one of the major downsides of the steam deck. The major downsides to all of the windows handhelds is that it's windows

It's probably held quite a few people off from buying any of these

[haughty lagoon]

my win1 runs tiny11 and its fine. stop being a bunch of fearmongerers

[lean crest]

I mean I could say the same thing about people complaining about having to learn really basic linux for the deck, but in the end stuff “just working” is still better than it not

[fringe umbra]

I run win11 on my old 8th gen i3 laptop and it runs fine

[untold sinew]

I ran windows 11 on a fucking i5-3320M

[vale flint]

Then you have never used win11 on „such old hardware“… there is no real difference in terms of the system running and ultimate fps

[vale flint]

But besides that, aya this time really f“@&d up the marketing on this one. First Steam, then only Holo, know Windows with (customised) Holo that can be downloaded. Next thing probably not even a customised Holo… and let‘s not forget that they had promised this already 1.5 years ago

[agile crown]

Considering the android build it’s probably better to can that idea anyways. Using windows was and is the best option.

[haughty lagoon]

Just give us a blank ssd and a file server with all the drivers. We'll sodding install the os ourselves

[manic siren]

Kinda.

Not sure I approve of the misleading steamOS stuff, but hey, Anbernic still claims they have SteamOS on the win600 now on the website and no-one minds.

And they have got much more coverage that they would have otherwise, intentionally or not.

[dry olive]

LOL. I can believe it for you because you are a genius. Much respect.

Most consumers use windows OS so I think having windows as default is the best option.

[manic siren]

I doubt there is anyone that wants a custom Linux build that can't download it from the Aya website. So I don't see it as a big issue to be honest.

Just means the free OS got replaced with an OS you might need to pay for. And they kept the price the same.

[dry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[vale flint]

The point or hope I guess was more that holoiso would have been tailored etc to the device. But naybe they will still do it, or even better, work with the holo team

[manic siren]

Honestly....the most I was hoping for was holoIso with TDP control built in 😄

[haughty lagoon]

holoISO is strictly load&go. there's no "tailoring it to the device" if all the drivers are just in the main installer package

i think the Next Lite is just going to be a generic os experience. you turn it on, set your user name, timezone, and password, and boom: bloated windows. maybe ayaneo included drivers. maybe they didn't

[manic siren]

I assume it will include drivers. They always said they would put windows drivers on the website, even when it was shipping with HoloIso.

[haughty lagoon]

so it's going to be like the win600. seconds after you boot into windows, you should probably drop into the terminal and run the backup command for all drivers. either that or yank the SSD, pop it into an enclosure, and make an img file of it.

you know... in case you wreck the OS, which many people will.

[manic siren]

Hmm. That reminds me, I do need to buy an enclosure, to store the SSD it comes with after I swap it, if nothing else.

But yeah. May as well save the windows version.

[haughty lagoon]

i'm interested in how palworld plays on 4500u/4800u

[vale flint]

Fortunately Aya was always a bit better in that front… never had any issues finding the drivers for the various devices on their website

[manic siren]

Now that there is an FSR mod out for it, should be fine on both I would have thought.

[royal compass]

Why would anyone run STOCK Windows on an handheld? 💀

[manic siren]

It's how pretty much all x86 handhelds come. And then people who want to change it change it.

[vernal jackal]

Familiarity, best game compatibility

What other options are there besides Linux

[royal compass]

I highlighted STOCK for a reason lol. Windows is fine, but the stock bloated garbage it is, no thanks. 😅

[haughty lagoon]

You act like it can't be removed by force and admin scripts

[patent osprey]

i have straight up windows 11 on my lcd deck and it's fine

just remove some programs and startup programs from control panel and it's really not bad

[vernal jackal]

i mean step 1 is to debloat windows, with every new device

[patent osprey]

🤷

i've never done that and i don't think it's that bad

[haughty lagoon]

on stronger devices, sure. I only do minimal debloat on my 5600g, On my weak stuff(laptops, win1), yeah every little bit helps

[manic siren]

What sort of performance boost are we talking?

[cloud robin]

So this device has a 4500u and running win11?

I am not familiar with this chips capabilities , or emulation performance

[manic siren]

The cheapest on that most are buying, yeah.

It'll do all Wii U, a lot of Switch, and some PS3/Xbox/360.

[cloud robin]

PS3? Interesting.

How much of the catalogue roughly?

May aswell just Youtube 4500u and ps3 emulation

[manic siren]

https://youtu.be/_eQp0MliVl4?si=eCr4Aqq0n3VlH2Yv

[cloud robin]

Yeah Im watching the taki video on the ryzen mini pc

same cpu

[manic siren]

Yeah, the mini pc Russ has is also the same spec. It's a review from 9 months ago, and obviously emulators have got a lot better in that time, but it'll be more or less that performance.

[cloud robin]

il watch the russ one because taki device has 16gb ram and im not sure if this device will have that

[manic siren]

It does

[cloud robin]

ah okay so both videos are fine to watch

[manic siren]

Yup.

[cloud robin]

Just need to see if the Uk price is good, and not just the dollar sign changed to the sterling sign

$299 device should not be £299

[manic siren]

Just bear in mind the age of the emulators. Like, the original Ayaneo console had a 4500u, but it struggled with 3DS. But that was just because all the review videos are from three years ago, when Citra was new. Not true now.

[cloud robin]

Yeah I tend to avoid older videos due to emulation improvements

[manic siren]

It's the same price. £230 or whatever, and free shipping. Ayaneo don't do regional pricing, just China and not China.

[cloud robin]

Okay that is fantastic news. £230 puts it at around the uk price for an rg552 xD

[manic siren]

I am also UK based, so I get you.

£230 is a pretty substantial saving on the Steam Decks £350 ask for the base, and pretty much the same price as the Loki Zero (which is much weaker) when shipping is included. Way cheaper than the Win600, which is also much cheaper.

Most powerful thing for less than Steam Deck price by far. And even then it's got a stronger CPU (weaker GPU), bigger battery and better screen.

All round the steam Deck is probably the better device, but it is 50% more money for UK people.

[cloud robin]

Ah so you do get me! The price really is great, im super tempted by this, CAN IT RUN PALWORLD?

Yeah I think ultimately I will be waiting a few months and may be tempted to go all in on the deck oled

but i like to have the options

[manic siren]

I don't see why it wouldn't, particularly as palworld has FSR now.

[cloud robin]

Oh fuck yes, I thought it was just dlss

I got a mate whos interested and will probably get it now that fsr is on and it'll run pokemon

i mean palworld

[manic siren]

Ha, that's a jump, from a £230 device to a £470 device 😄

[cloud robin]

The £230 one is for a friend who doesn't like spending too much money

I just considered it after I realised it can actually run games decent

but oled deck is what I have my eyes on in the coming months, my job has me in a car a lot so i'd want some decent battery too

[manic siren]

Yeah, this thing will be sort of in-between the LCD deck and OLED deck battery wise.

If you are car based, I recommend a good power bank. Even if the car doesn't push out enough power to charge the handheld, you can get a power bank that will, and charge that from the car at a slower pace. Also makes battery generally less of a concern.

[cloud robin]

I have been looking at power banks on and off for a few months, since i got the razer blade laptop

never settled on one and the prices on some are crazy

I was initially looking to see if a power bank existed that allowed me to use more of my laptops power when away from the plug

[cloud robin]

Oooh, didnt expect that, thought it'd be an 1 hour kinda devie maybe, good to know

[manic siren]

Depends on what sort of plug it uses, and how much power it draws. But yeah, they exist for anything.

I have this, which charges at 100w (with not a lot else plugged in).

https://baseusonlinestore.co.uk/baseus-100w-power-bank-20000mah-type-c-pd-for-notebook/

But this one is also great, if you just want a big trustworthy one that needs charge at 20w, and cheaply.

https://baseusonlinestore.co.uk/baseus-power-bank-10000-20000mah-external-battery-pd-20w-fast-charging/

[manic siren]

I mean, it'll all depend on what you are playing anyway. Battery size wise, it's between the Decks.

But obviously, doing Starfield on the Next Lite at max TDP will be different to Dreamcast Emulation at 5 TDP

[cloud robin]

@manic siren its got a 3080 and a r9 5900hx, so the adapter is 230w. Gpu uses 105w i think, the cpu maybe 50?

[cloud robin]

Main games right now for me is Palworld, Civ 6 and my recent obession with Monster Hunter World

All 3 i play with a mouse and keyboard though , haha!

i'll likely want to do emulation if i had a handheld, or much lighter games

I need to look into if those 100w chargers will do much for my laptop, maybe it'll be good for when I emulate and don't really need it plugged in to the wall, perhaps a power bank will help with that

[manic siren]

Ahh.....you'll be looking at the higher priced power banks then 😄

https://www.anker.com/uk/products/a1336-20000mah-power-bank?search_category=autofill&q=power&variant=44532380401828

[manic siren]

The Next Lite will be really interesting emulation wise.

People with bigger brains than mine know more about this stuff than I do.....but Emulation tends to be more CPU dependent, and less GPU dependent (this varies a bit depending on which emulator) .

The Next Lite has a more powerful CPU, and a less powerful GPU than the Steam Deck, so....we'll see how it compares.

One things for certain though, it's definitely the most powerful handheld you can get in the UK for under £350.

To be honest, try getting a laptop with these specs for the same price, still doubtful 🤷‍♂️

[vale flint]

And also… comparing it to a mini pc, which probably runs with a different TDP is not a 1:1 comparison…

[dense jetty]

What you have to remember about takis review is that the device works on power rather battery so it can draw much higher tdw.i saw for ps3 you would need 35w which is unlikely on this battery handheld or would last for 29 mins .The true answer is we don't really know .Best to wait for reviews if ps 3 and xbox is what you want.

[manic siren]

True, also older emulators in those videos though....do it might even out, or might not.

[manic siren]

Yup, that said, you don't need to wait for reviews to know that the Next Lite isn't the ideal PS3/360 machine 😄

Unless you just want light to middling stuff.

[stray reef]

Probably going to be a while before those systems can run on lower power chips without a 2 sec battery life.

They aren't exactly developing it for handhelds.

Like non desktop cpus

[haughty lagoon]

probably best to stay at 720p/30fps for best performance. I play a lot on a 3400g at medium graphics and it still dips a lot.

[cloud robin]

That's what I assumed with the specs inside 😭

[cloud robin]

I didn't consider this

[cloud robin]

This is why I'm still mainly considering an Oled deck really, but my friends with Decks are saying to wait for the Deck 2 which likely won't come for another 18+ months

@manic siren £130!!! Will that actually give my laptop 200W or is it 2x 100w it can deliver at once

If it can keep my laptop juiced up and operating well enough to emulate switch, id consider it tbh

[manic siren]

Oops, I only looked at it quickly, apologies. But yes, 100w per port. Which, will probably still charge the laptop (depending on the specs), but may or may not need to be turned off when charging.

I think if you want normal looking power banks 140w is about the top from a single port right now

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/world-s-most-powerful-2-in-1-40000mah-power-bank#/

Or you just go big, and accept big 😄

https://www.anker.com/uk/products/a1720?variant=42529253589156&currency=GBP&utm_source=google&utm_medium=pmax&utm_campaign=uk_anker_pps_conversion_pmax_powerhouse_purchase_ost_231103&utm_content=powerhouse&utm_term={20737592604}_{}_{}&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAk9itBhASEiwA1my_63UJW-SCBt5oGxPprwIXJD0BIW-xveCUnLMSCvR3irNiOkYO0vUlWBoCllwQAvD_BwE

[cloud robin]

I've seen that before 😂 size on that hahaha

[manic siren]

Yeah. At that point you may as well just get one of the diesel powered generators and call it a day 😄

[dry olive]

or if you leave the car engine on, you can charge it with this adapter

[manic siren]

^just want to emphasise the leave car engine on part of that sentence

[cloud robin]

Hybrid so is it always on?? 😂

[cloud robin]

Been in this situation too many times to make the mistakes again 😂

If they do a 100w version I would probably grab that

[manic siren]

Honestly not sure I would feel comfortable drawing that much power out of the car 😄

I would prefer a power bank for big stuff. Less chance of a flat car battery, and also more versatile generally.

I charge my power bank from the car, but at a slower pace 🙂

[zenith terrace]

Any news on when this goes live?

[bleak coral]

Today 7am?

[spark heath]

Do we have a price? Still $299 early bird?

[bright stratus]

I think 2 days or so

[manic siren]

They said preorders before the end of the month, shipping before the 10th Feb. So soon I guess.

It'll be sold through the website, so it might just arrive.

[manic siren]

$299 early bird and non early bird.

First 100 $299 peeps get 512gb memory instead of 128gb memory though.

[bright stratus]

deal of the century

For everyone not just 100 ppl this time

[spark heath]

Are there any (p)reviews where people actually have it in their hands? It's the exact same body as another model?

[manic siren]

It's the same body as the Next. But no previews yet.

[spark heath]

Riiiiiight

[manic siren]

Ayaneo don't normally do previews before preorders open.

[spark heath]

I still find it REALLY scummy what ETAPrime did

Do a video making it look like he had the unit and then half way through say that it's the Next not the Next Lite...

[untold sinew]

it's not really out of character, gotta milk the hype even if it means completely misinforming the user

[royal compass]

Weird, he never does clickbait...
DOES HE?!

[spark heath]

SMASH THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTON TO FIND OUT!

[bright stratus]

Eta would never

[manic siren]

Ladies and gentlemen, it's ready to order.

@wraith abyss I know you were interested in this....

https://www.ayaneo.com/product/AYANEO-NEXT-LITE.html

No IGG to mess with, it's just through the website.

First 100 orders of the base get some extra storage (128gb changed to 512gb).

[wraith abyss]

Thank you so much! Ordered.

[unkempt violet]

Thank. Bought one. Let see how long it takes to arrive.

[wraith abyss]

I like the fact that they're giving me 512GB storage.

[manic siren]

Shipping before Chinese new year, so before the 10th.

[wraith abyss]

Oh snap I can have this thing sooner than I thought.

[manic siren]

This one's really different to usual Aya releases. No IGG, no 3 hour Arthur presentation.

Just chuck it on the website, and ship in a little over a week.

They should all be like this 😄

[wraith abyss]

It's a nice change for sure.

Officially supported HoloISO is a nice touch too.

I'm hyped for this.

[manic siren]

I'm interested to see what they do with that. Luckily, not lacking options if it's rubbish 😄

I am also super hyped. My first x86 handheld. Could never really justify spending £350 on a Steam Deck, I play more older games than newer game's.

But I'd like the option for newer stuff, and £230 is a lot easier to rationalise.

[wraith abyss]

It's going to run better than say a Loki Zero for sure.

[unkempt violet]

I tried ordering another one but add cart no longer works. Congrats to those of us that got in.

[wraith abyss]

Holy crap sold out quick. @manic siren is the hero of the day for the ping!

[manic siren]

Aye. Apparently the JELOS team have worked magic on that, and the 8GB can do BotW at almost 30fps locked now 👀

But it's still got the huge deadzone issues all the Loki's have, and it's barely cheaper than this.

So this is the obvious buy in the budget space in my opinion.

[manic siren]

Looks like black and blue are still available...

[unkempt violet]

Maybe just not for me. I selected both options but cant add.

[wraith abyss]

Yeah I loved Jelos on the Loki Zero but Windows on it is so blah.

HoloISO on this thing though? Might be chef's kiss.

[high ridge]

Should I do it...

[untold sinew]

thought it'd be worth mentioning holoISO switched to being immutable

[manic siren]

Make sure you select 16gb ram and 512gb SSD as well as the colour. It won't prompt you to do it, it'll just grey out the buying options.

[untold sinew]

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/01/the-original-steamos-like-linux-distro-holoiso-now-dead-replaced-with-immutable-version

[spare shell]

The add to cart/ order buttons are not working like I selected everything but clicking on them doesn't do anything

[high ridge]

@wraith abyss what is the likelihood you keep the next

Can I pre-order from you

[unkempt violet]

Yeah button looks active but clicking it does not do anything.

[untold sinew]

same here lol

[manic siren]

Oh, you're right.

Maybe it did sell out.

Woah. That's a new thing for Ayaneo 👀

[untold sinew]

well that would just mean they sold 100

[high ridge]

Hey I recommend using their Shopify page instead

[unkempt violet]

They are trolling the 101 and up. Lol

[wraith abyss]

LMFAO

[high ridge]

https://rh-go.link/Aya_NextLite

Use this one guys

[wraith abyss]

We'll see.

[high ridge]

Trying to decide if I should buy one for myself

[manic siren]

Yeah. But selling 100 normally takes a day for them 👀

If it's popular.

Took the Slide about a week to get there.

[wraith abyss]

Yeah buy one. This might be a keeper for me unless it's really underpowered.

[untold sinew]

I can see why the next-lite would sell more on launch

after all it's 299$

slide was like 799?

[unkempt violet]

It will be decent power. Not up to steams deck but other hardware goodies compensate for it.

[untold sinew]

holding my breath to see

[manic siren]

Absolutely.

Aya are the budget kings now.

And Slide was 699 EB, so still much more pricey.

[untold sinew]

cause it would be hilarious if they're using the outdated holoISO image

[high ridge]

The 4500u is more powerful than the 7320u

[manic siren]

Better CPU, worse GPU.

[manic siren]

I mean....I wouldn't bet against it 👀

[untold sinew]

would suck since that's uhm 8 months old

[unkempt violet]

I am heavy on emulation. Hope the dpad does not suck.

[untold sinew]

can just update it directly but damn 8 month old build as a base kinda sucks

[manic siren]

Oh, yeah, good point. This things been planned for a while, but I am sure they are more up to date than that.

[untold sinew]

especially when it's no longer officially maintained

hopefully someone just repackages their stuff and puts it on like, the AUR

[manic siren]

Emulators "tend" to be more CPU dependant than GPU, so you could well be in for a good time here.

[spare shell]

Thanks this worked

[unkempt violet]

Nice Shopify works

[high ridge]

Their main website just kinda sucks

[unkempt violet]

Bought another one for my brother.

[untold sinew]

my first instinct is always to scroll down

then remember the buy button is the small one on top right

[high ridge]

Meanwhile Shopify will happily take your money

[unkempt violet]

I used PayPal. Some extra protection.

[untold sinew]

oh yeah always use paypal lol

[high ridge]

me using my card on Funnyplaying because they don't take PayPal

Yeah use PayPal guys

[wraith abyss]

What?

[untold sinew]

wouldn't surprise me anyway

the 7320U isn't a great chip lol

was never meant for anything graphically intensive

[high ridge]

Less efficient
More performant

[wraith abyss]

Ah. The less efficient part bothers me a bit. But I'm sure it'll be fine.

[high ridge]

Don't worry
The Next Lite is 1 watt hour larger

That'll make a huge difference

[manic siren]

Looks like the white has sold out.

On the my Shopify page.

[foggy cargo]

Would be only willing to pay $300 for the 4800 sku

[manic siren]

Hopefully someone will do that in 6 months or something.

@haughty lagoon just incase you were interested, the Next Lite is on sale...

[zenith terrace]

I got in

Got the blue, originally wanted white but I’m glad I was able to get the 512gb

[wraith abyss]

Never been so excited for an Aya Neo product before. 🤣

[manic siren]

Blue is the best colour.

I got black, but only because I want to put in orange buttons and make a tech dweeb version 😄

[wraith abyss]

I ended up buying a case but I just realized it's for the KUN lol.

[manic siren]

It's the start of the affordable x86 revolution!!!

[wraith abyss]

I'm here for it.

[zenith terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/extra-thicc-extra-thicc-thick-extra-thick-gif-21812607

Every Aya release should be like this

[wraith abyss]

Agreed.

[zenith terrace]

I wish all of the companies moved away from IGG

[manic siren]

😄 anything that fits the Next should work with this.

[wraith abyss]

I wonder why they sold the KUN case as an add on for the Next.

[unkempt violet]

If anyone is interested.

[wraith abyss]

This is the one I should have gotten.

https://ayaneo-shop.myshopify.com/products/ayaneo-next-moon-rock-storage-bag?_pos=1&_sid=a5eede2cf&_ss=r

[manic siren]

I was literally just looking at that 😄

[unkempt violet]

20 is not a bad deal.

[manic siren]

If you email Ayaneo, I am sure they will change your order.

[wraith abyss]

Yeah I'm about to do that.

[untold sinew]

the blue looks sick yeah

[high ridge]

White was never in stock for some reason 🤔

[zealous raven]

Got blue via shopify link

Was going to go for black, but that blue is nice

[manic siren]

Blue looks great, and really different to the usual options.

[zealous raven]

I have all black devices for everything else, so least this will stand out 😅

[manic siren]

I lack colour coordination. I just pick whichever colour looks nice 😄

[zealous raven]

Took your advice and emailed asking for 4px

I am a tomtoc fanboy. So i will try and find a switch case that fits

[agile crown]

https://ayaneo-shop.myshopify.com/products/ayaneo-next-moon-rock-storage-bag

isnt this one

[zealous raven]

You are right sir! Thanks 😅

[agile crown]

np

[manic siren]

Ha, beat me too it 😄

(That's the one I am asking to add to my order)

[bright stratus]

Who copped from you BastORRds

the same ones that meme Aya everytime

Who copped the white is sold out

[manic siren]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-i-did-it-happy-excited-omg-gif-8068878

[zenith terrace]

I just go with whatever color feels right 🤣

I do like the way the blue looks, very different

[zealous raven]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-blue-shirt-guy-feet-dance-foot-dance-pee-gif-25559224

[ember chasm]

How much smaller is this compared to the Deck? I've been looking to get a smaller handheld PC, and I'd been leaning towards a Loki, but if this one is noticeably smaller (and Retrosizer makes it look like it is, even with the 7-inch screen?), this might be a better option.

[manic siren]

Not much smaller. 3cm less wide, about the same height (less around the screen a bit).

It is a lot thinner.

You can ask Panda how he feels about his Loki though.... apparently the triggers have massive deadzones, and the software has not been updated since launch.

[vernal jackal]

Hold out for the budget air with ryzen 5000 coming later this year or next

It's inevitable

An air plus, with that screen and ryzen 5000 for $300 would be extremely attractive

[agile crown]

Air shell was too expensive even with an arm chip they said bom was $280

[vernal jackal]

It's worth $0 if it's sitting in a warehouse somewhere unsold

[manic siren]

But it's worth more that $0 if they put it in an air and sell it for $400 or whatever 🤷‍♂️

I'd never advise waiting for something that hasn't been announced.

[vernal jackal]

I don't actually think it's going to happen, I just think it would be a compelling product

You always hold out as long as you can, until you can't anymore

[ember chasm]

Thanks! I think I'll keep looking at the other, smaller Aya Neo handhelds in that case. Price isn't as big a concern (I even got my wife's blessing to buy a new one!), so if the only thing this one has going for it is price for middling performance in a huge shell, it's less attractive.

[vernal jackal]

Something new and better will be out soon always, and whatever you bought will lose a lot of value

[manic siren]

That's the plus side of buying a next lite....how much value is a $300 product going to lose? Should hold up well.

[agile crown]

That’s true with every device

[floral cedar]

Doubt air plus (not air) components cost more than the next, excluding the chip?

[vernal jackal]

Better than most yeah, on a pure dollar value amount. It'll still lose similar percentage of its original value though

[agile crown]

No device holds value

[floral cedar]

Isn't the next supposed to be their premium super expensive line

[manic siren]

Price is the big one sure.

It's not as small as the Loki/air stuff.

[agile crown]

It was at the time but nowadays I don’t think it’s as expensive to make

[floral cedar]

A $300 air plus shell device is not out of the question if they can do a 299 one with next shell with big joystick etx

[vernal jackal]

@ember chasm if price isn't a concern for you and you value having a small handheld, I would wait until the next Air refresh campaign. It'll probably be within the next few months

[agile crown]

Maybe but an air plus at $300 I think has a bigger cooler and the screen difference could make a difference in price

Mind u the air plus line had a lot of issues

[manic siren]

🤷‍♂️ depends on the market I guess.

UK market the $1000+ stuff drops loads in value. Steam Decks and Loki's don't sell for much less than new.

[floral cedar]

I doubt the cost of the next shells/component drop especially with inflation, they were just fleecing buyers previously because of lack of competition

[manic siren]

The next launched at a similar time to the Steam Deck.

[vernal jackal]

The uber expensive tiers lose more value yes, I'm talking about the modern budget offerings around $700 though. Over a period of one to two years it'll probably lose about 50% of its value, I could see the same happening to next lite, though maybe more like 25-30%

From a value perspective it is smarter to go with the cheaper offerings

Generally the largest drop off is for stuff going from bleeding edge to one generation old

[agile crown]

A 5k series air plus would cost more. Shell cost and parts do go down for instance back then ddr5 really wasnt as popular as it is today , the sticks were debuted on the next and have since shown up on the controllers, screen is probably a factor as well 7’ 800p is probably cheaper than the air plus version, and the cooling is a bit smaller

Even with that the next lite is the better shell regardless

[vernal jackal]

My man is going on about how it wouldn't work as if he has inside info, I was just saying it would be a compelling product

[agile crown]

I gave context to why the parts could drop in price

[vernal jackal]

Next was definitely originally way overpriced, probably huge profit margins

[agile crown]

Ppl are wearing rose tinted glasses with the air plus shell

[vernal jackal]

That was before steam deck took over the world

[agile crown]

Next is easier to work on, ssd change didn’t have an issue with bricking audio, and has full size sticks with a larger screen. I love my air plus units but I don’t think the shell would be as good as the next

[manic siren]

The next came out a few months after the steam deck.

[floral cedar]

Limited regions + super limited stock though

[vernal jackal]

They just hadn't adapted to the new market yet

Back then any kind of Windows PC handheld was novelty and came with a huge sticker price because there wasn't any options

We're still sort of there but it's getting a lot better

[agile crown]

Not really it’s probably worse than 2023 outside this

2023 had the potential of budget Lokis, cheap fly, anbernic, and aya. 2024 only device we know is coming under steam deck price is this

[vernal jackal]

I mean it's barely been a month pretty unfair comparison

[floral cedar]

Orangepi offerings suppose to be cheap, especially the supposedly 6800u variant, if they ever deliver

I hoping for 6600u/7440u/z1 tier stuff to get down to 300-350 range by the end of the year or early next year

[agile crown]

Is it bad I don’t have faith in orange pi they have been to slow ong

[vernal jackal]

Performance difference from 6800u to 8840u is extremely minor, so probably the greatest deals this year will be super sales of 6000 series

Z1 tier performance at $300 is solid, especially the actual Ally with vrr

[west blaze]

Well I wouldn't say extremely
7840u to 8840u yes totally
But 6800u to 8840u is sizable (more that the 6800u to 7840u difference is noticeable)

[floral cedar]

Has there been any confirmed performance increase of 8840u over 7804u? Other than the AI

I have not seen anything other than wild speculation

[west blaze]

Not really

[vernal jackal]

I've been hearing negligible differences 0-3%

[floral cedar]

The most credible one is slightly better efficiency due to more mature yield/production

[vernal jackal]

It's definitely a generation only put out to make money for AMD and no other reason

[west blaze]

Efficiency is a valid factor if it's noticeably more efficient

Definitely worth the (iirc) 30 buck difference ayaneo is charging with the flip

[bright stratus]

If pricing isn't an issue then air 1s is basically the best marvel of engineering Aya has to offer

Was the first OLED x86 handheld basically ever

And until the new steam deck was the only

The new one has 7840u as well

So 18w upwards it crushes

And they made the bigger battery 🔋 from the air pro standard in air 1s

So in every metric it's better version of original air

[vernal jackal]

Yeah I agree, should probably wait for the next campaign though, so you can get early bird price on the next refresh rather than paying full retail

They come out with a new air every year, they will definitely make an 8000 series model

[bright stratus]

? What does that have to with air

That's currently available

For literally within a 100 bucks of early 🐦

[vernal jackal]

Retail price is terrible

[bright stratus]

You're just waiting indefinitely for no reason

[vernal jackal]

A few months isn't indefinitely

[bright stratus]

Yeah for biggest skus sure

to each their own

[vernal jackal]

He's a big boy he can make his own decision, at least his options are laid out

[bright stratus]

Nonsensical to wait for non existent product

[bright stratus]

Agree

[vernal jackal]

A better product for a better price, it's not nonsense to wait at all

[bright stratus]

Theres always a better product

Just wait a hundred years

[vernal jackal]

It's the exact same product

[bright stratus]

No problem

[vernal jackal]

It's not a full year either

[bright stratus]

It will 100x more powerful

I mean considering what you're saying is not even factual but okay

The air skipped a whole generation

God knows when another one comes

There is no 6800u air

[vernal jackal]

Sooner rather than later with this company

[bright stratus]

Went from 5k to 7k

[manic siren]

You don't know either of those things are true though. They've been changing the airs, maybe they mess up this time? Maybe they can't sort the heat out on a new chip? Maybe it's not priced well.

Maybe they just go bankrupt, or become a mini PC company or something, who knows 🤷‍♂️

[vernal jackal]

Still doesn't change that buying the 7000 series air at retail price is a bad move

This company throws out indiegogo campaigns every other second with early bird prices, paying retail is a poor decision

[agile crown]

The igg prices aren’t even usually the best u can get from aya tbh

If u wait a year they usually discount them as a clearance

Same thing with gpd if u want best price wait till AliExpress

[zenith terrace]

it's true, my Aya devices were all bought on a fire sale or just cheap second hand

[manic siren]

Same goes for all handhelds I guess.

This was released 6 months ago.

[unkempt violet]

This is a great deal. Play it for two years and buy the next one if it becomes available. 300/24 is only 12.5 a month.

[haughty lagoon]

I think it's cute, but I'm not interested. thinking more on when and if I want to sell/trade two of laptops for a 3500u/vega10 unit.

[manic siren]

That's the way I think.

I'm mostly in it for emulation. And spending $400 more to get the latest 8840u+32gb ram would get me....the harder third of the Switch catalogue or whatever, and more upscaling.

Is that worth the extra to me? Nope. I'm as likely to play an old game as a newer game anyway. There are a million games I want to play, I can wait.

But some people use it differently, and it will be worth it to them, and that's fine.

[unkempt violet]

This is two big Macs a month kind of money and can be easily managed

And you won't feel the pain of depreciation. I saw a Asus ally extreme for 400 on Facebook market. 1 hr drive. The pain!

[bright stratus]

The fact that ally is approaching 400 bucks quickly

Is most definitely sad

[bright stratus]

^^^^^

[bright stratus]

In 4 1 for the memes

but also to show the POWAAAAA

[manic siren]

Yeah. If you take this compared to generic $700 at launch price handheld....

In a few years you can probably still sell this for $200.

The $700 handheld you get $350, maybe.

This way you spend $100 every few years. $700 way you spend $350 every few years.

And the initial larger outlay as well.

[bright stratus]

ppl na hip

Vega immortal 💫

[manic siren]

It's an easier decision when you play more older games than newer games.

If I bought generic $700 device, over 2 years I might play a game or two that it could do that the Next Lite can't.

But is that game or two worth $400? Hell no.

[manic siren]

That's cool. There's no bigger IGG discount, just more memory for the first 100 buyers. So if you do want it later you don't miss much.

[unkempt violet]

I want to play slim rancher 1 and 2. Tekken tag tournament and killer instinct on mame. Maybe some Dreamcast for nostalgia.

So this one fits just fine and a little flexible if I want to play a bit more.

[manic siren]

I mostly just want it to fill the Wii U hole in the ARM library, and play some PC games, so it fills that niche well for me.

[unkempt violet]

Barbie dream House party is the shit.

[manic siren]

You jest. But it is partly to get access to the dumb Wii U games for my little girls. So that will be on there 😄

I've got Wii controllers and everything....

[vernal jackal]

Can we assume this has the same d-pad and buttons and cooling system as the original next

[agile crown]

They confirmed that already

[manic siren]

Yeah, dual copper pipe cooling system.... whatever that is.

And a fan.

[vernal jackal]

How much more performance is 4500u over 3050e

Anybody know

[manic siren]

Quite a lot.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_athlon_silver_3050e-vs-amd_ryzen_5_4500u

It's also got a lot more RAM than the Loki Zero/win600.

[dry olive]

4500u has 6 cores. 3050e 2 cores. 4500u can run at higher cpu freq. vega 3 vs vega 6. There are a lot of improvements to get the 4500u over the 3050e at the same price range.

[vernal jackal]

Huge win in terms of multicore

Does this come with ayaspace 1 or 2

[haughty lagoon]

my thoughts are like... xbox, and midtier switch emulation; the Next Lite is a decent small device for those. Current AAA will shake it to death. retro AAA will be fine, like it always is.

Mass Effect 3 and Dragon's Age 3 for instance run fine on 3050e and 4500u. you just get better performance for the latter.

[vernal jackal]

I just can't get over the design. The right stick is going to be in your way all the time and there's like no grip at all

[bleak coral]

Its always nice seeing good decent options at this kind of price range if one isn’t wanting/doesn’t have access to deck or Ally z1

[haughty lagoon]

rotate your hand, fella.

"but i don't want to rotate my hand to not touch the analog! rotating your hand is for plebians down on the cobbles!"

[bleak coral]

But i do think if one already have something in 6xxx/7xxx series, it might not make sense owning a device for the sake of owning just because it’s priced decent

[vernal jackal]

It's poorly designed and not comfortable

Hence why they fixed it on future models

[manic siren]

I'm not sure the way they went with different designs means this is poorly designed.

People who had/have Nexts have commented a lot in this and other Next Lite channels, and they've all been positive about the ergo.

Now the Ayaneo 2021.....people have a lot to say about that one's ergo 😄

It's thinner than something like the steam Deck. But for a lot of people that won't be a bad thing per se.

[vernal jackal]

I noticed there's no add-on option for a case, do they sell this on their website somewhere

For some reason it's showing me Kun accessories

[manic siren]

It's the same size as the Next, so any Next case will be fine. I think Ayaneo sell 2 versions them.

Someone else mentioned the Kun case thing, that's because......Ayaneo and websites don't mix well I guess

[vernal jackal]

Hmm weird

Seems to be $20 for the basic case

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i3-1215u-vs-amd-ryzen-5-4500u

Interesting comparison

[agile crown]

4500u wins in games. 1215u should be better in emulation although with a intel gpu u get graphical issues

[vernal jackal]

Was going to say I think emulation relies more on single core

The original $300 handheld versus this guy seems like an appropriate comparison

[manic siren]

It was $300 for the first 100 units. After that the Air Plus went to $600.

[vernal jackal]

I know

[agile crown]

They were $260 or 270 I think but only had 8gb

[vernal jackal]

Less ram, smaller battery, better panel and better ergos

I think

[agile crown]

Ngl worse ergos in all likelihood

Air plus had grips as suggestions

[dry olive]

Well. The next was design to fix the ergonomics of the original aya neo 2021. the OG was design like the switch with it been a flat design. Next shell was the start of making the shell better to hold for long gaming session.

I own the OG ayaneo and it was painful to hold after a while. Remember that ayaneo had grips that use doublesided tape to stick to the device.

[manic siren]

Regardless, cheap for the first 100 units and then doubling in price doesn't really make for a great comparison to something that is around that price indefinitely:D

[agile crown]

Screen is a toss up whether u like size or ppi

Even if they are compared. Next lite looks favorable

[vernal jackal]

I just checked Bestbuy open box excellent condition z1 for $329

[dry olive]

I would get that over the next lite in a heartbeat

[vernal jackal]

Yeah I'm thinking about it

Free shipping too

[manic siren]

If you have access to it, and want a second hand unit, it's a good deal.

[dry olive]

the Z1 can run AAA games at 720p with low settings. turns settings down and it runs quite well.

[vernal jackal]

I want to like this, and I kind of do but the design kills it for me. Down firing speakers, analog stick getting in the way, not too great of grips

[agile crown]

Id recommend if u go ally change out back buttons and get a grip

[vernal jackal]

Probably wouldn't even use the back buttons

[dry olive]

I disable the back buttons

pretty much on all my devices.

lol

Never really used them.

[vernal jackal]

New condition Z1E is currently $600 also

$100 off

[agile crown]

It’s more about how the back buttons ruin the grip

U can get a pair off Etsy for like $5 it fixes the issue

[manic siren]

I mean, in different price land altogether there 👀

[vernal jackal]

Yeah true but it's no compromise

Just saying it's on sale currently

[agile crown]

It is a compromise in regards to ssd in the overall handheld market but yeah it’s the best windows handheld imo

[vernal jackal]

I kind of want to buy a budget device but there's too many choices

[manic siren]

Not 32gb. So already a bit of a compromise 🤷‍♂️

[vernal jackal]

I'm fine with 512 GB storage, I don't like to have a hundred games

In my mind these devices aren't powerful enough nor do they have enough battery life for AAA gaming

16 GB of RAM is plenty for Indies and emulation

Playing God of war for an hour and a half is stupid

Maybe in like 5 to 10 years

[manic siren]

It does help with some higher end emulation.

But it's not a massive difference on most games, sure.

[vernal jackal]

I would mainly be in the 5w-12w TDP range, you go much past that and your battery life tanks

Every time some reviewer test performance at 28w I roll my eyes

[manic siren]

And yeah, that's the other point. Even the best handhelds are a compromise on gaming laptops/PC's. So really, we are all compromising to some extent.

[vernal jackal]

Playing games for like 45 minutes sure is fun

[manic siren]

Ally owners see playing a game unplugged as a nice to have feature

[vernal jackal]

If you stick to 2D indie games you should be able to stay below 10w

So it's not too bad

3 hours is fine

[manic siren]

Sure. But then you are paying a lot for battery life. Which if it's worth it to you, is cool.

[bleak coral]

If it was the z1 open box @ 329 like what drew initially said, then it’s a quite the no contest choice

[manic siren]

We were talking about a $600 Ally extreme.

[bleak coral]

I know. I’m just saying that if it was the z1 though then that’s a very different story altogether.

[vernal jackal]

Only thing I don't like about the Ally is the d-pad, also for my own personal use I wish it had an extra USB port on the top

It's a great deal though

[manic siren]

Depends on your feelings about used stuff. But sure, it's the better handheld.

[vernal jackal]

Even the Z1 brand new is currently $400, $200 off sale

[dry olive]

Best buy lets you look at them if in store. And most of the open box z1 look brand new because people wanted the z1e performance and return asap. My $299 open box z1 had the accessories inside unopened and in their original wrapping.

For me, a Z1 > 4500u

[vernal jackal]

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_z1-vs-amd_ryzen_5_4500u

It is considerably better

[bleak coral]

Objectively speaking, yes. Cos it’s zen4 and rdna3

And on a newer process mode

[manic siren]

I get how openbox works in the US. And yeah, as I said a few minutes ago, it's the better handheld.

I'm just saying some people prefer new stuff to used stuff more than others 🤷‍♂️

[vernal jackal]

Might just get a brand new Z1, I think $100 is worth the better screen and more performance, better ergonomics

[bleak coral]

Still supposed that’s fine if it was coming out from places like Best Buy. Should have some instore warranty & warranty from manufacturer either way.

[vernal jackal]

Just knowing you can send it back for a refund is huge

[bleak coral]

Next lite makes better sense in markets that have no access to deck or z1 ally or someone wanting anything else with decent performance which isn’t an ally, deck or any of the lower specc’d devices from other Chinese makers around the same price bracket.

[agile crown]

I Agree with this for sure

Except for the better ergos

Ally needs stuff before the ergos feel really good

[vernal jackal]

Well it's less flat in the back, analog stick isn't in the way of abxy and is generally offset controls

Front facing speakers

Better placed start and select buttons

[agile crown]

It digs into your hand. You will know what I’m talking about once u get it

U will want a grip

[vernal jackal]

Hmmm

[bleak coral]

They are excellent in terms of quality if I might add.

[manic siren]

It's more the internal wear and tear that there's no way to really know about. The next year will be fine, it's the life after that which is more uncertain, depending on how much the previous owner has been blasting TDP.

And the irrational emotional side of it, it's nice to have a new new thing.

That's not to say the Next Lite doesn't have a different use case as a different design ergo, bigger battery, etc.

And yeah, I live in the UK. No Z1's sold here, and Decks are more expensive than in the US. A lot of the world is like that, or has no deck either, as you say.

[bleak coral]

One of the best sounding

[agile crown]

My recommendation pick up the skull n co grip it helps a ton

Kei did a video on it if your curious as well

[vernal jackal]

I'll check it out, definitely going to rewatch all the Ally reviews before I pull the trigger

[bleak coral]

I can’t really say I agree to the wear/tear part wholly since devices brand new can also fail right out of the box.

Agree on irrational emotional side.

If the comparisons were solely between z1 ally, then it’s actually a lot closer to each other from a design standpoint/battery (but yet some things vastly different like screen and chip; where aya NL might win some like say analog sticks while ally wins on other stuff) But yes, could agree if your comparison was towards something like air/airplus.

Surprised that there’s no z1 in UK, but deck yeah. Hard done by on pricing on that + fx just didn’t make it seem worth it at all.

[bright stratus]

Can run either this is the actual benefit of being in the Aya ecosystem

Like it or not

As2 can be run even on their very first Aya

Which is amazing

Even tho @agile crown the only one to still daily that console

2021 machine of the year with best ergo

[manic siren]

Aye, we have z1 extreme which just came down in price.

But current UK options are

Next lite £230
Steam Deck LCD £350
Steam Deck Oled £479
Ally z1e £550
Legion go £700

The second hand market in the UK is bad. Barely less than you buy new. Good for selling, not for buying.

[bleak coral]

Deck lcd for 350£ isn’t that terrible though. But again if you compared it to the US price then yeah it isn’t stellar at all

That said, ayn Loki max with its recent price drop to 449$ is also a rather compelling alternative though

Which works out to 350£ thereabouts but probably will have shipping cost on it

[bright stratus]

But when shipping costs

Then it kills any perceived value

Imho

Deck free shipping in most cases

Aya free ship

Ayn get screwed with shipping

20-40 50 bucks in some cases

Should be accounted into device price then

[agile crown]

Loki max is 499 not 449

At least US wise before shipping

Just know with that device is it has flaws and u should only buy it if your using Linux at this point in time due to no support

[bleak coral]

I stand corrected on the pricing for Loki max. But doesn’t impact the following in terms of standing ranging from perf;-

1. legion go (£700) /z1e ally (£550)
2. Loki max (£450; £400 + £50 for shipping for argument sake)
3. deck LCD (£350)
4. next lite (£230)

[bleak coral]

This I wasn’t aware. What kind of flaws?

[agile crown]

The triggers have a 75% deadzone

And u can’t change the mapping for windows functions

So l1+r1 which is going into keyboard mode can affect games

[untold sinew]

the backbuttons also don't have their own keycodes iirc

[agile crown]

Hot take if your looking at the Loki just buy a geek 6800u instead for $20 more

[untold sinew]

compared to smth like the odin which has them so you can map them in other software

[agile crown]

Odin software is good just sucks Loki isn’t getting the same level

Unless u want a chimera or jelos machine probably pass. The devs have done a lot for that device

[bleak coral]

Then perhaps can discard consideration for Loki max.

Just though that the price drop recently might make it somewhat compelling

[agile crown]

I think it is compelling just know what your getting in for type thing

It has great ergos in terms of feel

[manic siren]

It's not awful, it's just that I am not sure I would use the extra power for anything in particular, and £120 when it comes with worse battery, worse screen, worse WiFi etc, just isn't worth it. Particularly when I have more of an emulation focus, and the Next Lite has a better CPU (worse GPU).

[bleak coral]

I see. Then yeah the next lite is the best option in this case for you since it fulfills all your requirements at the cheapest price amongst everything else available

[manic siren]

The funny thing is, I was just about to buy a Loki Zero before this was announced. Another week and I would have been pulling triggers regretting the fact I didn't know about the next lite 😄

[dry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-chosen-wisely-choose-choice-knight-gif-16214221

[bright stratus]

Flaw is an understatement this might as well be a design defect

Not sure how there hasn't been a hardware revision

When a 75% deadzone exists

You have to basically fully pull down the trigger for it to do anything..

but this isn't a Aya so naturally no one is speaking abt this

And would still recommend" it outside of their atrocious shipping rates to most ppl

[bright stratus]

You would be pulling the trigger for a VERY LONG TIME on the loki

Literally

[manic siren]

More luck than anything else 😄

[bright stratus]

This is the case on two DIFFERENT skus that panda has btw so it's not a one off case.

[manic siren]

Looks like all the early birds are gone now. No colours left.

[agile crown]

I think they did 100 of each color

I cant think of another way they split up the allocation of units

[manic siren]

Aye. It can't have been 100 in total.

Totally unscientific discord chatter sense, but felt like there was much more interest than there would be in a handheld selling 100 units total.

Between this and the Flip, Ayaneo will probably be feeling pretty happy with how the last 36 hours have gone.

[unkempt violet]

This pops up in my FB market feed. A little too quick too creepy.

Is 300 a good deal?

[manic siren]

I mean, yeah. It's no secret Facebook ads work like that. Google "Facebook pixel".

Google even picks up on stuff you are talking about 👀

[peak quiver]

ayaneo storeThank you for your purchase!
Order GK12021 AYANEO NEXT LITE 4500U (Early Bird Price)
16G / 512G / Pastel Blue
1 $299.00

[bright stratus]

Yeah but lmao

@buoyant fiber from this community is literally selling one of those

Why would you cop from an absolute random

On FB marketplace of all places on top of that

[buoyant fiber]

it's a good deal and it's me bud

lmao that's my actual post on market place 😄

[bright stratus]

😂 lol

This is great

[bright stratus]

ppl probably think I'm shilling your hamheld

Taki video speak for itself

At 28 watt Mario Odyssey 60

Simple

Easy

[buoyant fiber]

LOL it's a genuinely great handheld. I feel bad for selling it but i just have too many handhelds to use them all

[unkempt violet]

Lol I figured you might be in this discord since this is a niche hobby.

[buoyant fiber]

not only that but I also included my timestamp on the post with my username lol

[bright stratus]

Bahaha

[bright stratus]

🙏🏽

[untold sinew]

it's a good deal and they only made like 150 of em

[spark heath]

PLEASE someone buy @buoyant fiber Air Plus before I do hahah

[bright stratus]

Def collectable vibes 🐥

I only scooped to see mainly hm worse it is compared to my i7 hamheld

Was curious 🤔 abt if any uplift between 12 gen n 11 i7

[lost oxide]

I would have have gotten a Next Lite...if it wasn't for the fact that I got a 2nd hand air off here anyways, so eh

[bright stratus]

Which one

[lost oxide]

Just the regular 16GB Air, 5560U model.
Should be about on par with the Next Lite in terms of gaming performance anyways with an Oled panel, just a shorter battery life

But Windows handhelds are never really known for long batteries anyways

[bright stratus]

How much did you get for what color

Nicee

I have the special edit 🦆 yella air same 5625 play the PlayStation 5 ratchet n clank on it

Such an awesome game for a pretty screen

[lost oxide]

Paid about $265 for it, but gave an extra $40 to the seller so they could cover the costs of shipping to Canada.
Probably about the same price as a Next Lite, but at least Shipping's already factored in. Plus OLED.

[bright stratus]

What color

White?

[bleak coral]

Yeah good choice. Loki zero would probably lead to it being almost no different from win600.

Probably worked a year odd or two ago and could get away with it. But now it’s better off 4500u and up

[haughty lagoon]

meanwhile, running unreal engine games with potato settings is still fun

that said, enjoy some horizon zero dawn or stranger to paradise once you get yours

[bright stratus]

👀

[haughty lagoon]

actually, Stranger to Paradise is asking too much. you need 45w on a vega11 to hold 30fps in-game at 720p

[spark heath]

Isn't Horizon Zero Dawn still stuttery on Steam Deck?

[bright stratus]

Not with cryotools

It's doable

[lost oxide]

nah, Black model

[bright stratus]

Was it in the market?

[lost oxide]

Yeah, was in the marketplace a few days ago. Its really worth keeping an eye out since there are good deals.

Better than Ebay, thats for sure

[bright stratus]

Will start looking I always felt it's meme stuff in there whenever I check

ppl selling 35xx for 60 buck

Like who is that a deal for champ 🏆

[lost oxide]

Theres a few meme devices there, but in between there's good finds. I remember people were selling Ayaneo Air Plus's (6800u) models for 400-500
Just gotta look constantly and be patient.

[bright stratus]

Yeah any 68 for 400 range is great

I got my oxp mini 68 for a little under that

[manic siren]

There's an EB black back in stock, if anyone is interested...

https://ayaneo-shop.myshopify.com/products/ayaneo-next-lite-4500u?variant=44490380771573

[spark heath]

Gone

[manic siren]

FYI, for anyone thinking about pulling the trigger. Looks like you buy now, or you will be waiting a month or two.

[bright stratus]

The new ones are up

3 fiddy

Every color on deckkk

might need a second color

[manic siren]

Yup, I assume that's what he means by 40 units.

As in, they have 40 of various colours for tree giddy. And after that....it'll be a while.

[bright stratus]

yeah I already copped the color I didn't want yesterday

I'm good to go on this campaign

Reddit posts on this are hilarious 😂

Like why post abt it

Just to say steam deck 100 buck more

Neither is that the same price segment

And other markets outside of murica exist 😂where the steam decks costs an arm a leg

You might as well" your way up to a 7840u at that point 🤝🏽

[vernal jackal]

America is the only country that matters though

[manic siren]

Some people just won't accept an answer that isn't Steam Deck or Ally 🤷‍♂️

[bright stratus]

https://www.amazon.com/3050e-Handheld-Console-Windows-Gaming-White/dp/B0CNRMQKQW/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=3RZ0W2QS7M9J7&keywords=ayn+loki&qid=1706800917&sprefix=ayn+lo%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3

Only the same price

[haughty lagoon]

dogmatic flatbrains

[limpid beacon]

Steam deck fanbase is something else.

[bright stratus]

let me lead you to the legion go page where they claim deck is great for switch even better than native hardware

delusionists finest weekly

[limpid beacon]

I have a deck. It is not a flawless switch device.

[buoyant fiber]

@bright stratus What's the performance of the next lite compared to? not familiar with that APU

[bright stratus]

Compared to what

Or you're asking

[bright stratus]

I mean the Aya 2021 was same chip

So any stuff you there should be good comparison

[bright stratus]

https://youtu.be/xuEeOfFOIdg?si=SjKqW9oqCU50zR0p

This is intrigue especially the Zelda section and this is years ago so can only be better than this

https://youtu.be/zvTIwvD0RuA?feature=shared

Probably sub 800p

[bright stratus]

https://youtu.be/lAg2BCCeO20?si=AIHceFsUCrjqv_sT

Here you can see chips you're familiar w

[haughty lagoon]

go to youtube. type '4500u gaming.' look at results. do the same for other socs. compare results.

man it's like they don't teach research in school anymore.

[vale flint]

Better to compare with the og aya 2021 as it was pointed out above. Other 4500 comparisons might be less accurate due to different TDPs (especially if it is laptops or mini pcs)

[haughty lagoon]

usually laptop videos show off stock, unmodded tdp though, so you get a decent idea of the factory default performance.
like, i'm pretty sure an HP ProBook x360 barely pushes itself beyond 15w due to being a slim model

[manic siren]

And the problem with comparing to the 2021 is that the emulators have improved loads, and even on PC, games have been patched to be optimised more, or use FSR.

So it'll be better than that.

The 2021 struggled with 3DS emulation, but only because Citra was new. Not the hardware per se.

[bright stratus]

Yeah agreed especially with lukefz

[bleak coral]

Not that actually.

AMD had a broken OpenGL and citra never had Vulkan implemented until recent times.

But since then till now, AMD finally fixed their OpenGL on their graphics drivers (on windows and thankfully so before they dropped Vega support) whilst citra now has Vulkan (iirc)

So to that sense videos from 2 years ago isn’t really gonna be a true indicator of how these devices would run in terms of emulation now since both drivers and emulators have been getting better during this period of time.

If anything should be better.

[manic siren]

Yup.

I actually suspect this thing is going to surprise a lot of people.

[bleak coral]

But pc games wise, things should more or less be the same

I own a win3, that’s gotten better on emulation front. Cant see how renoir wouldn’t

Renoir personally is a series I like a lot from AMD

Especially coming from Picasso (3000 series)

[manic siren]

Even there, stuff like cyberpunk came out with another patch to improve performance today, and gas had a fair few in the last few years. And FSR 3.0 changes things a lot.

I agree it'll be closer to it's 2021 pc game performance than emulator performance. But both will have made gains in some games 🤘

[bleak coral]

And I actually kind of hated a purchase for my wife (then gf) a HP envy with 3700u when 4000 series was just right round the corner. If it wasn’t because she needed a laptop immediately at that point in time, I’d have waited

Not too sure if Vega would actually support fsr3 considering the EOLreduced to security and feature stability support (maintenance state) from AMD direct. Mods probably

[manic siren]

It does 🔥

https://youtu.be/RU_2P0--U-s?si=9WAA-jjFpITEQQbU

[bleak coral]

Was referring to 3 specifically. 1&2 should work

Pc games I still think it’d be negligible and would still most likely net similar performance. Did aya up the ram speed for next lite over OG ayaneo? If yes then that would most probably be where the additional performance would come from

Ah nah ram speed’s the same.

[agile crown]

I’m not sure they can it’s already 4266

[bleak coral]

Couldn’t remember what was the highest supported ram speed supported by renoir and what was originally on OG neo

[buoyant fiber]

Hey Jackass I'm at work and asked a buddy for his direct opinion. I'm fully capable of looking stuff up.

@bright stratus thanks bud i'll check the links out on my break!

[bright stratus]

https://youtu.be/Hb0jOvo7pAI?si=H3M2NOkN2IHulNWL

All you have to do is ask my friend

I got you

Look at that little 🚂 go

Spiderman abt to fly 🕊️

[bright stratus]

No problem chief 🤠

[bleak coral]

#1194714857799434301 message

Last sentence (am aware of lukeFZ mods. Paid mods btw)

[zenith terrace]

I am pretty excited to mess around with it

[bright stratus]

Yeh I have that buh also ppl can just get lossless upscaler

[bleak coral]

True too though. Lossless scaling with LSFG.

[bright stratus]

On steam is and it's cheap

I bought for 5 buck years ago

It's even way more value now

With FG

For few buck

Worth every penny

[bleak coral]

Think there’s prerequisites but not that it wouldn’t work though.

Personally not a huge fan of FG at this point in time yet

[bright stratus]

And specs wise it absolutely blows the top off the 3200g

So should be pretty intrigue to see what it do for fsr games especially

[untold sinew]

doesn't sound like it would be too fun

[bright stratus]

I mean fortnite exists

For the ppl that like online games

[bleak coral]

Wouldn’t matter if the main purpose of the purchase is for emulation up to some 7th gen titles and switch.

It’s only on pc gaming where it would be a lot more fiddling/trial and error

[bright stratus]

Agree

But as Sony was saying this the new win6

cp at 400p otw I'm sure

Someone will try it

not me though y'all stay safe

[zenith terrace]

Cyberpunk on the Win600

https://tenor.com/view/operation-teapot-nuke-nuclear-explosion-nuclear-test-nuclear-footage-gif-15618232923822161090

[bright stratus]

120p

Or rather what was the Gameboys resolution

flawless 60

[dry olive]

yup. win600 should run cyberpunk at 80x46 resolution

[bright stratus]

This can't be legal

This man must be stopped

[foggy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[bright stratus]

This remind me those 🔭 as kids

Used to have

What is called kaleidoscope?

[foggy cargo]

Stop reminding me that I am old 😭

[zenith terrace]

It’s not bad just make the window size really small

[zenith terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-14880344851904561392

[haughty lagoon]

eh who needs cyberpunk. just do some Deus Ex and Space Hulk:Deathwing instead. Maybe some system shock(the remake is amazing) or EYE.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/482400/System_Shock/

Steam

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[ancient wadi]

The system shock remake is in fact, a verified bop

[fallow bronze]

budget device for pc based?

[west blaze]

ehh

I mean

its 350 yeah, and if you NEED to play like non-steam titles I guess its fine and its definitely a step in the right direction

but just get a steam deck

oh its 300 not 350 my b

then it seems like its gonna be fine, as long as reviews are good and it isn't made from shit

(still think you should just afford 50 bucks more for a steam deck tho, or get one used for 300)

[manic siren]

Just to insert the usual responses -

Not every country has cheap steam decks.
Not everyone wants a steam deck.
This has a bigger battery, better CPU, better screen, better wifi, more ports, and is cheaper.
It's the most powerful device at its price point by some margin.
Second hand comes with extra risk, and you can always get a better device secondhand. Why get a steam deck when you can get a second hand Ally...etc.

[bright stratus]

I need to copy this to dash board

Get it tatted in blood on my back

[untold sinew]

their site doesn't have anything but a 349$ SKU so far

[bright stratus]

Yeh it's the 350 512 that's up now I believe

Haven't checked recently

[untold sinew]

you're correct

[manic siren]

The $300 early birds sold out.

The $300 ones will be back in a month or so, with 128gb memory, as well as the other 2 SKU's

Just the middle sku up right now, which is fine if you just want 512gb, or don't want to open it to change the SSD.

[west blaze]

yeah thats what I thought but I googled it and ayaneo themselves were saying 300

[bright stratus]

Yeah I copped that yesterday

Just bc

It's a x86 for 299 I mean

Insane

[manic siren]

And not a bad x86 for 299 either.

When the Aya console launched with this chip, it was twice the price of a Steam Deck, this is much less than the Steam deck, with better ergo and better screen.

In steam deckflation terms, it's a great buy

Besides, the more relevant comparison is to the Loki Zero anyway. It's pretty much the same price as that, but way more powerful.

[west blaze]

true

so much better than loki zero

and win600

but if its gonna be 350 like as the actual price instead of 300 as the theoretical price

I say just get a steam deck

[manic siren]

I mean, it's not theoretical if you wait a month 🤷‍♂️

Half the people who bought the early birds seemed to think it was shipping in a month anyway, due to Chinese New year 😄

[untold sinew]

waiting a month isn't a choice CNY is upon us

[bright stratus]

Good thing I copped all the cheen hamhelds before the going got though

@manic siren I actually saw your ping on my way to work and copped off my phone

[manic siren]

Aye, buy now and it ships before CNY. But yeah, it does delay things....

[bright stratus]

I wasn't even planning to get one

[manic siren]

You got the early bird, if you change your mind, you could probably sell it and get your money back 😜

[bright stratus]

hell na the tooth paste is limited edition

[untold sinew]

did they publish any sneak-peek into their holoISO side?

[bright stratus]

It's nothing

The iso will be posted on the side

Site

[manic siren]

That....is more of a mystery.

It'll ship with windows, HoloIso on the Ayaneo website.

Might be good, might not, who knows.

[untold sinew]

would probably use bazzite if I had this anyway

assuming it's a vanilla build of holoISO

[bright stratus]

So you're getting one

Or a few

[untold sinew]

no

[manic siren]

Aye, or chimera, or whatever you fancy really.

It'll be more than vanilla HoloIso. But I dunno. I assume if they had a revolutionary feature added they would have mentioned it by now.

[untold sinew]

god this gif in small looks like he's pulling the finger

[bright stratus]

What the

[vernal jackal]

Saying next lite is better than win600/Loki zero, is serious cope. That's like saying a $1 steak is better than dog shit. Like you're technically right, but wouldn't you rather have a regular $10 pork steak (deck/Ally)

[bright stratus]

Intrigue for no reason then i c

Preparing notes for the Aya hate server

[untold sinew]

tbf it's not hard to be better than the loki zero

have working triggers and you're in business

[bright stratus]

Loki*

[untold sinew]

I assume they added TDP control

[bright stratus]

Every sku has same issue

[manic siren]

(all the Loki's have that issue, not just the zero)

[manic siren]

Not confirmed, but yeah, it seems like a safe assumption. If they were going to add anything it would be that.

[untold sinew]

cause otherwise, uhhh https://github.com/aarron-lee/SimpleDeckyTDP

[manic siren]

Careful, RH has a lot of win 600 fans 🙂

[bright stratus]

@haughty lagoon @dry olive

[vernal jackal]

That's like the worst device of the past several years

I'm going to need some kind of explanation

[untold sinew]

dpad-centric gaming

also

[vernal jackal]

Oh God just looking at it again

[untold sinew]

with the next

[manic siren]

Stubb's and co like it as well. I think they have one they sent around each other to play with.

[untold sinew]

I still do agree that the looks just aren't great

[bright stratus]

It looks any android hamheld

Nothing different really

[vernal jackal]

I mean the performance is terrible, the price to performance is awful, it's not comfortable because it doesn't have grips, the speaker position is terrible, the analog sticks aren't usable. I'm sure the few 2D games you can get to run might play decently I guess maybe

[bright stratus]

From all the rectangle handhelds ppl run after in here

[manic siren]

Huh, the next is only 3cm narrower than the Steam deck, but it does look different.

Almost half the thickness, I assume that will be the bigger difference though.

[bright stratus]

[untold sinew]

yeah retrosizer isn't 3D so thickness isn't shown

[bright stratus]

With makes sense since anbernic is the creator afterall

[vernal jackal]

And yeah it is shaped like a trapezoid which is so bizarre

[untold sinew]

retrosizer not having GPD at all is a shame

[manic siren]

Yeah, whenever the RH crew mention it on videos they always say the sticks are basically there to be ignored 😦

[untold sinew]

they missed an opportunity to make them closer to the screen

which would have improved their feel tenfold

[vernal jackal]

I also really hate the logo being on the front in big bold letters

[bright stratus]

It's okay they just wanted to be the first to put out something with steam os

some sacrifices had to be made

[vernal jackal]

The best PC handheld designs have all the controls on the top half of the device

[manic siren]

On the bezel as well, just to get the black white contrast pop ☺️

[vernal jackal]

The bottom half should be for palm rests or speakers only

[manic siren]

Still just flat out says steam os on their website

[bright stratus]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ayaneo-kun-8-4-screen-7840u-handheld-with-54w-tdp#/

[untold sinew]

sucks because I wanted an RG505 for a while and a 353P

[bright stratus]

Close enough

[untold sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rest-lazy-laying-bed-gif-20013578

TJD T101's lower cousin

[bright stratus]

Is kewt

[bright stratus]

Tjd is reallll

We are literally in alternate universe

Like how even

[untold sinew]

I still laugh everyday any manufacturer tries to put trackpad on a device

and then put it at a spot that's virtually unusable for games

[vernal jackal]

The Kun is like your half cousin that's a little slow that shows up at family gatherings. You don't really like him but you don't have the heart to tell him that. Everything about it is worse than the deck from a design perspective

[untold sinew]

still hope we get a PC handheld with this layout that's not the deck

[vernal jackal]

The way the deck did track pads is the best way to do it, it results in a wider larger device but you either get that or an ergonomic mess like the kun

I also appreciate that the analog sticks are parallel with each other

The deck is as large as it needs to be and not any larger. If you make it smaller in any way you'll have to compromise on something whether it be screen size, battery size, track pads, general layout and ergonomics of the buttons and d-pad

When the deck first came out I too criticized the overall design. The years since all the competitors coming out, has shown me it's actually the best design overall. Nobody has made anything better

Even the Ally and MSI claw seem worse for various reasons

[west blaze]

I can deal with the stick, and dpad being different but the track pads are actually so good

its wild how valve and sony are the only manufacturers to deal with trackpads

(ofc other than laptops)

[untold sinew]

yeah but then sony's controllers end up with barely any battery life

on top of drifting after a year

[west blaze]

I swear that is sony just not knowing how to save battery life and not the trackpads fault

[untold sinew]

think I had read people disconnected the trackpad and it improved it a lot

they just need to put hall effect and I'll consider one of their controllers again

[west blaze]

like tbf they also put speakers, headphone jacks, microphones, lights, motion controllers, adaptive triggers, crazy rumble and all that junk on their controllers

[west blaze]

wii u pro controller stays on top

[manic siren]

I am slowly creeping towards having a different controller for each system....

I have Wii, N64, Saturn and SNES....along with standard Xbox layout things.

Really need someone to do a 3D Saturn Pad with analogue triggers. But that may be a bit niche.

The OG chunky boi.

[vale flint]

I will pass on Holo… I have been following for some time now the comments of the dev and I am not supporting in any way people that make transphobic comments, support the war in Ukraine and other sh;&48;&it

Plenty of other options available thankfully

[vale flint]

Indeed, they would probably not sell extremely well 😉

Bit would be a reason to dust off nights in dreams and my saturn lol

[manic siren]

Well. Yes.

There are Saturn fans out there that would love it. But not many.

As you say, nights, maybe burning rangers and a few others, are the most pressing reason to get a 3D pad.

It's not like anything is unplayable with that standard d-pad only version.

[manic siren]

Ahh, the Roman Polanski type issue. Plagues all media unfortunately.

Everyone draws the line in different places, and that's cool. As you say, chimera, bazzite, could even go crazy and just use windows!
Other options make it an easy skip if it makes you uncomfortable.

A lot of people avoid a certain 🥚 switch emulator for similar ethical reasons.

[bright stratus]

although using this would actually have benefits performance wise

you just collect an overall L in Holo even if you have any no ethics

[vale flint]

I thought the ethical reasons there were related to the stolen code, or are the developers there also idiots 😅

Ah now I get it… also falls into the “ethical reasons” category

[limpid beacon]

The two top analog sticks is such a great ergonomic decision when pulled off properly (device has to have extra width). It would be nice if some other manufacturers took a cue there.

Also, I'm with you on the Win600 - I can't understand that device at the price it is.

[vernal jackal]

It made more sense when it came out, its a little cheaper than the steam deck and was the only alternative for places that didn't offer the steam deck. The problem is that they've kept the same price even though the market has moved on and now it's a joke

People wouldn't clown on it if it was like $150

It's probably the worst x86 option you could choose, which is quite the feat considering how many options there are

[limpid beacon]

Anbernic has a very stiff pricing model

WOW SUCH GREAT SALE

[manic siren]

If you click on that link, I think the website will show you it's more than that

[haughty lagoon]

Tell us you've never played 3d titles on a 3050e or i5-7300u by saying stuff like this.

the Ayaneo next lite is the better deal now. Unless you're in the year 2 group of win600 owners, there's no reason to buy one except if its used and cheap

[vernal jackal]

Sir are you confused

I was dunking on the win600

[untold sinew]

and he's talking about the win600

[manic siren]

He means the win600 will run a lot of 3D games, even the easier to run new ones. Which is true. He got Palworld to a playable ish state on it.

[bleak coral]

With Kirby on this re win600.

This device was literally in the same position as ayaneo next lite 2 years ago.

It was either this or up the price ladder all the way to 800 and up.

[manic siren]

Aye, soldered ram or whatever aside, the Loki Zero is more or less the same spec. And if that had working triggers and was $50 less, you could still make a good case for it even with the Next Lite around.

[bleak coral]

And it wasn’t some fantasy device that had you preorder and wait forever before receiving

[manic siren]

[bleak coral]

Not that fantasy.

Ayn Loki and Loki max

Or essentially the whole Loki series

[manic siren]

Too many long wait time devices to choose from 😭

[bleak coral]

Loki was about a year over

I had a 6600u order going.

Canceled on the 1 year 2 day mark.

By then you had already had stuffs w 7840u showing up

[manic siren]

I wonder when we'll finally see a device more powerful than the Steam Deck for under $400.

The Next Lite has a stronger CPU, but overall worse APU. So it isn't quite there.

But hopefully soon.

[bleak coral]

Probably in 3-4 years time for 7840u

Unless something new comes out from AMD

At an affordable price/1000units

[manic siren]

Maybe that's what Valve are holding out on before releasing the steam Deck 2. Not so much when they can make a big jump in the same price range, but when Asus or Lenovo can do a machine cheaper.

[bleak coral]

The running theory was the aerith chip was meant for Ms for a handheld Xbox which didn’t materialize

And valve was then offered it and that’s how steamdeck came along

And the recent news on Sony handheld with 18CUs?

Let’s just say I have my reservations to that actually being true

[untold sinew]

betting on it not being true

[bleak coral]

18CUs. Somethings gotta give. Be it cpu side or battery/cooling

[bright stratus]

Moore's law?

You sure it's not powered by a Nvidia chip

[zenith terrace]

Nintendo won't allow that

It's the Nintendo PlayStation all over again

[haughty lagoon]

I guess if you're going to dunk on a device like the win600, at least say stuff that's accurate, like

• "the power of dad's old laptop, but the heat vents directly into your hands"
• "crappy e-reader panel that some games won't even render on"
• "JoyToKey because anbernic mouse-mode button-mapping is shit-tier"
• "lol switch joycons, but you can't replace them because anbernic soldered them directly to custom daughterboards"

[dry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-team-assemble-team-assemble-gif-20674250

[agile crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hollow-crown-sophie-okonedo-margaret-of-anjou-charge-gif-911256240204619047

[untold sinew]

the sticks are soldered lmao

now that's actually sad

I thought they were using regular switch sticks

[haughty lagoon]

battery is custom too. they won't sell you a replacement.

once your unit dies, it's just fucking dead, (without a power bank.)

😂

[patent osprey]

good

[untold sinew]

time to get a loki /s

next lite casually killing the win600

[haughty lagoon]

THe Ayn Loki Minipro could have been good, but it's completely locked down and bankrupted its own sku.

[bleak coral]

Can’t recall. But win600 is soldered??

lol. Probably gotta bust it open soon

[untold sinew]

soldered what, ssd and ram no

[haughty lagoon]

too many people have killed their units on that hill. just don't

[haughty lagoon]

the analogs

[zenith terrace]

I thought Anbernic sells you the battery if you contact them

[haughty lagoon]

only if you ordered directly from their website and have your order number.

[zenith terrace]

I haven't looked inside the Win600 in so long, could a new battery be wired in using the existing cable?

[zenith terrace]

[haughty lagoon]

if you ordered through a wholesale dropshipper(like me) or through amazon, all you can do is get a replacement with warrantee

but yeah... it's very easy to damage the daughterboards or mother board if you're in the "I can fix her" crowd. If you have no fear, go ahead and bring your hall switch sticks to the party.

[untold sinew]

"I can fix her"

[dry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/six-million-dollar-man-rebuild-him-we-have-the-technology-we-can-bionic-gif-20304473

[zenith terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-the-builder-gif-21863917

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-we-can-rebuild-him-dont-want-to-spend-a-lot-of-money-we-have-the-technology-family-guy-six-hundred-dollar-ma-gif-27510161

[bright stratus]

@dry olive what's funny abt this is panda is a super fan of the win6

not only does he have one but he's valiant enough to have the win6 lite

With the 🐥 3020e

[haughty lagoon]

if ayaneo went hypercheap and made an n100 version of this. Hoo boy. it would ironically be better than The Claw, simply because there'd be zero wasted potential.

[untold sinew]

if they made a 119$ version with an N100, along with fixing the issues

[haughty lagoon]

i'd say 149 for n100, but yeah. that's a nice 7th gen device. you'd cover the GTA5/Mass Affect Andromeda era

[manic siren]

Problem is, YouTube reviewers don't think like that. They'll just look at at it and say, doesn't play Dave the diver? Why bother.

[haughty lagoon]

(ಠ_ಠ)

[untold sinew]

it doesn't run modern AAA

[haughty lagoon]

and then you'd get hordes of newbs coming in here parroting that nonsense. "Ugh! It's only good for 2d because russ said so!"

bloody idiocracy (screams in 60fps bayonetta pc-edition footage)

[zenith terrace]

The Win600 was the reason I started my channel Just to show what could be done with it

[haughty lagoon]

The Ayaneo next lite will be your next "I can fix her"

Palworld is rough on 3400g/vega11 beyond 30fps/720p/medium-preset. Its going to be a hard pill to swallow on 4500u/vega6

[west blaze]

I just realized the surface duo definitely has 4:3 displays

after watching your video

I'm 🤏 this close to buying one

[zenith terrace]

Yea, they’re amazing

I was going to make a follow-up video months ago focusing on that aspect but I got covid and then it got sidelined 😭😭

[west blaze]

and it runs gamecube and ps2 well

ugh I'm about to drop 250 dollars

honestly purely for the clamshell comfortability and huge displays

I can run a youtube video at the bottom, native sized wario world on top

[fringe umbra]

if I ever find a good priced Duo2 that's unlocked oh man I'm gonna use that as my daily phone for at least a month

[west blaze]

all of the ones on ebay are either broken or 500 dollars (the duo 2)

[zenith terrace]

It’s honestly still one of my favorite pieces of tech I own

Really bums me out that MS can’t figure out how to market their products

The SD is beautiful

[west blaze]

it does run ps2 well right?