ZPG A1 Unicorn

[gritty basin]

If the transparent purple shells are no longer having issues then hopefully that means the transparent black isn't too far behind.

[cerulean leaf]

the internal design looks a lot cleaner than the convoluted guts of the CUBE

[raven knot]

What’s wrong with the cube? Looks pretty tidy to me, and the square mainboard/screen arrangement means easy adapting for other form factors and/or hacker projects.

[acoustic perch]

You say that as if we can see underneath the battery and that they don’t also have a screw-thread galore underneath it.

[wintry cedar]

"clean" doesn't mean much

[cerulean leaf]

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Just look at the internals of the CUBE, bracket, multiple board parts, it's a lot

sure I can't look under the battery of the Unicorn, but to me it seems to be a simple and clean design, screen, board, battery, just like the rgb30, easy to assemble, without much room for fuck ups.

maybe easy assembly was also part of the decision for inline/non-analogue triggers, the most dedicated part seems to be the d-pad tbh

[acoustic perch]

Reminder, what we saw in the cube was what it looked like without the battery and with the heatsink removed, with more removed parts following in the pictures afterwards. I’m only gonna say this is cleaner when they put their cards on the table and take those off in their pictures as well.

[pastel quarry]

under the battery it is just one board

and there is one daughter board for the dpad

[acoustic perch]

The number of boards isn’t my concern. Honestly it’s the one thing I enjoyed about the design anbernic used for the internals, I hate having to take out the whole motherboard for just replacing the face buttons or the joystick on the d-pad side.

[ionic thorn]

I must have missed this. What was the issue with the purple shells?

[graceful pelican]

Like it is with a bunch of anbernic devices lol

[acoustic perch]

Exactly, it’s why I’m happy to see the Cube isn’t that.

[graceful pelican]

I didn't look beyond the screen at the Cube, didn't see a reason to look deeper

When I see retail units not messed up I'll look deeper, but that's a stupid stupid thing to do for review units.

[severe breach]

That purple tho

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-oh-my-god-gif-20904118

[vernal plaza]

Beautiful!

[ionic thorn]

In a sea of transparent purple devices, that might be the best looking one of them all.

[severe breach]

Yep, too many people try to copy Nintendo's Atomic Purple. Which is nice, but gawtdamnit I want some PURPLE

[ionic thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mizhar-minion-minions-shouting-gif-26733365

[severe breach]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674

[queen parrot]

Ok Lao! We westerners are ready. Looking forward to unboxing mine and giving first impressions. Mine should be here early next week if customs will move things

[fallow pumice]

Did it actually release internationally

[fallen hinge]

[queen parrot]

Negative I overpaid a reseller

[cerulean leaf]

They need to buy some god damn euroboxes, this is giving me a heart attack

[queen parrot]

I'm wondering if the international version will have the same front end installed.

[dire marsh]

And rubber membrane face button boards

[severe breach]

You will take the click and you will like it.

[dire marsh]

Nah I’ll just get a cube

[hexed sleet]

cube vs unicorn videos will fuel the rh scene for a good week or 2

[humble relic]

@pastel quarry you have both devices. Any chance you will make such a video?

[minor brook]

He already did, check recent live streams

[pastel quarry]

I can do more unicorn content

👍

[queen parrot]

My unicorn 🦄 has made it to us customs. Hopefully it will arrive next Monday

[dire marsh]

Make sure to tell us how you feel about the face buttons 🤙

[fallen hinge]

Hopefully we get more info about international orders next week 😩

[gritty basin]

I watched your Unicorn vs Cube stream and was pretty disappointed to see the Unicorn just barely not make the cut for Muchi Muchi Pork and DDP Saidaioujou (but glad you showed that!). I'm wondering if dropping the CPU clock under Core Settings to 90% could get it past the finish line without really affecting game speed.

That and whether or not a MAME core/stand alone emu would perform better

[pastel quarry]

unicorn streams planned for weekend

[karmic wind]

test more 3ds and vertical arcade games. ty vm

[cerulean leaf]

well, now the Unicorn has a problem... CUBE is 136€ on gogamegeek, no way this will be able to sell lower

[pastel quarry]

https://youtube.com/live/_hJQURfvYLU?feature=share

[humble relic]

Thanks for the stream. My biggest takeaway was that the d-pad is more comfortable on the unicorn. This will be my primary use case so this is likely the device for me. One quick question, does the d-pad have a fixed pivot? Some (most?) dpads pivot by pressing on the adjacent membranes. For example, pressing left on the dpad slightly presses on the up and down directions as well. This causes them to have a lot of false diagonals. Did you notice a solid pivot on the Unicorn thath avoids the false diagonals?

[wintry cedar]

is this the definitive explanation of that stupid phenomenon out there?

[humble relic]

Not sure. A "mushy d-pad" or "false diagonals" are symptoms of this. Just about everyone does it. The trim ui smart pro and the RG35xxSP have solid pivots. Those are the type of d-pads I like.

[vernal plaza]

[mystic surge]

It's a Sega style dpad so it feels quite loose but I've had mine a couple of weeks now and not experienced false diagonal. There's a very definite pivot in the dpad

[pastel quarry]

It’s quite accurate in this respect, I don’t think I have experienced any false diagonals.

[gritty basin]

Someone on baidu seems to have received a transparent black unit.

[queen parrot]

Hey Lao My unit arrived doing my unboxing video tonight

[queen parrot]

https://youtu.be/g-ZfrqN8tp4?si=DMrOZsUsqDLbdM8j

[spark current]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[earnest lagoon]

Zpg a1 where are youuuuu

[cerulean leaf]

To late, to little. This will never come out.

[marsh lichen]

Seeing anbernic's light bleed situation, not too late

[cerulean leaf]

Obvious result of pre-ordering the first batch of a device
really hope the 2nd one is actually improved and doesn't has the issue

[pastel quarry]

https://youtube.com/live/Yel2SpYoaGk?feature=share

[humble relic]

Anbernic made a stick-centric device with a higher price and average sticks. Hoping that the market responds to this.

[mystic surge]

It's too late if you want to have sub par sticks, a crap dpad positioning, not have a case and bumper included and pay more. I think anbernic are sending out replacement screens for those that pre-ordered. Lol the issue is that push pins designed into the board and case are applying pressure on the screen. So I am not sure how replacing the screen resolves anything. They have to redesign the board and the case back. Do you trust that Anbernic has done this for the next batch?

[cerulean leaf]

you really think the Unicorn will be cheaper? I paid 136€/$145 for the CUBE, doubt it

[humble relic]

Cost is mostly relative to RAM and SoC. The Unicorn has less RAM and less CPU power. If it is the same price, it will be a mistake.

[cerulean leaf]

pretty sure it will be more expensive than the CUBE

[acoustic perch]

The person who actively has regular contact with the dev said it was looking to be around $150-$180. Anything more than $150 is already more money than it’s worth, and that’s the minimum.

[acoustic perch]

Considering Stubbs and Gamma both got that revised version and showed it had no light bleed issues, yes. That already shows it literally exists, the problem is whether or not AliExpress users get anything from that batch or if they all got the early batches.

Which is bullshit if they all got the ones with light bleed issues.

[cerulean leaf]

and the thing also is, it seems very unlikely to get the Unicorn for a good price in Europe, as even the lowest price would be $180 with VAT on top (shipping not included), so like 30€ more than the CUBE at the very least

let's ignore it being straight out 200€ if it's going to be $180 😅

I paid 200€ for my rp4p ffs

[mystic surge]

If they price it more than the Cube it'll be a mistake. I got mine for the domestic launch price (around 120usd)

[gritty basin]

This is the best size and screen comparison I've seen so far. I thought the Unicorn was going to be noticeably wider than the Cube, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Also seems like the A1 screen is a bit too yellow while the Cube's is a bit too blue. The poster said the A1 screen looks better to his eye, but the Cube screen gets brighter.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9047468097

[ripe estuary]

Why is this not out yet?

[karmic wind]

becos its an Unicorn... haha

[pastel quarry]

some issues with the first purple/black batch

[potent gate]

Is this a better buy over the cube

I’ve seen the crime scene we call the cube

[pastel quarry]

depends in the pricing

[cerulean leaf]

You seen the 1st batch, 2nd one seems to be fine.

Also no clue regarding the Unicorn yet, while I expect lower QC issues generally, due to the nature of this project, the power of this is significantly less, while the device is definitely higher priced at the end of the day. ($150-180 most likely, compared to the lowest current price of $145 for the Cube, which includes shipping - and the ~20% vat for EU contries)

I really still want the Unicorn, but only if I can get it at an reasonable price, which may be especially hard in Europe...

[gentle hound]

still waiting Unicorn to come out for more review , seems the Cube is too good and I don't know how long I can hold before ordering one

[cerulean leaf]

Already did, shipped yesterday, now we wait 3 weeks and hope for no light bleed

[queen parrot]

So far I'm not finding a lot of fault with my unicorn. That being said I think of course pricing plays here. I would say that the unicorn has quite a bit to offer but I have not actually used a cube yet and it's on the way so I'm not sure yet

[cerulean leaf]

My Cube is 136€ including shipping and 19% vat, will be hard to beat for the 🦄

[gritty basin]

#1154414318935363594 message
Maybe this means sales will go up for the western ZPG site next week. Unfortunately I'm still worried a high price is going to ruin everything, and I fear the mass-assembly QC issues haven't been resolved yet. I guess we'll see. 🤞

[cerulean leaf]

well, I certainly don't expect the first sales to be less than 170-190€ (for Europe, so including shipping and vat)... so way to high unfortunately, hope gogamegeek can offer a more competitive price IF they list it down the line or we at least will see some AliExpress sale, because with the rgCUBE at less than 140€ out there, I would probably rather grab a 2nd CUBE if it ain't at least in a similar price range - given that my CUBE arrives without any QC issues

[fallen hinge]

A lot of Ali reseller listings seem to have fallen below $200 now. Kinda tempting ngl

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806905812818.html?ug_edm_item_id=3256806905812818&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!%24347.98!%24170.51!!!!!%4021011ae717191428347265391dc4d1!12000039374037858!edm!!!&edm_click_module=item_detail&tracelog=rowan&rowan_id1=aeug_edm_56672_1_en_US_2024-06-23&rowan_msg_id=7292biz_search_product%3A0%3A0_575655772%2477ae6701c884481f85c0c4f7f2a63ced&ck=in_edm_other&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

[cerulean leaf]

can't be shipped to Germany 🫡

also I wouldn't really pay above 150€ for it tbh

[dire marsh]

I bet I could a cube + xx sp from gogamegeek for that price

[fallen hinge]

Are we seeing the same price? Cause I see $170, which isn’t that much more than I’m expecting this to retail for ($140-150)

[dire marsh]

Nah we got the eu tax

So 195€ or above $200

[fallen hinge]

Oh, well lol. Guess there is benefits to living in North America 😅

[cerulean leaf]

cube is 136€ and xxSP is 59€ on ggg, so yeah still cheaper than an Unicorn... which isn't even shipping towards Germany, so welp

[dire marsh]

Yeah as long as you stay below 800 you’re good

[cerulean leaf]

you better pay 19% vat on everything 🔫

[mortal cobalt]

Until you look up median hourly wages for working class people and realize these euros can definitely afford the 20% premium

[cerulean leaf]

are you drunk?

[mortal cobalt]

(Well, western euros anyway)

[mortal cobalt]

Hours working at Burger King to buy a 35xxH is something northern and Western Europe is going to win at globally every time

[cerulean leaf]

US wages are waaay higher and we pay way more taxes

[mortal cobalt]

US wages are only high in specific niche fields, not for the average worker

[dire marsh]

Cut those wages in half

[mortal cobalt]

US pays $7.65 an hour in many places lol

And the average American works stupid hours

[dire marsh]

Sounds like a waiter job that’s dependent on tips

[cerulean leaf]

minimum wage isn't really median and whoever is making 12€/hour of minimum wage, can be glad if he can afford a roof over his head and some food on the table at the end of the day, because those people go home with like 1200-1400€ net at the end of the month (depending on the hours they work) and even some cheap shit apartment in the countryside will run you 600+€ COLD per month

[mortal cobalt]

Nah, they’re allowed to pay that to anyone tipped or not

My province used to have a separate lower minimum wage for tipped employees

[dire marsh]

Man this is so fcked

[mortal cobalt]

Oh yeah it’s insane

But this is also the same place they had 12 year olds cleaning a meat packing plant as third party contractors

On back shift

[cerulean leaf]

US wage disparity is huge yeah, but honestly, anyone even breaking their backs for $7.65?
The 12€ minimum wage is kinda high at this point, because skilled tradesmen often make only 2-4€ more per hour

[mortal cobalt]

Just have to lye the blood off a bandsaw for 12 hours to get that 35xxSP

[mortal cobalt]

Unfortunately the hardest physical labour (like fruit picking and other agriculture jobs) is often some of the worst paying

While the cushy desk jobs where you spend 30% of your on the clock time surfing Reddit is the highest paying

[dire marsh]

Meanwhile their are fast food workers in LA making $18 an hour

There’s a probably a crazy difference depending on your location

[mortal cobalt]

Fast food is harder work than most office work tbf

[dire marsh]

But your talking about averages

[mortal cobalt]

And 18 an hour in LA still doesn’t pay the rent

[dire marsh]

True

[cerulean leaf]

well, I don't want to go into this political stuff too much on this server (because participating in these kinda discussions always gets me banned ), but yeah, physical labor is usually unskilled labor and badly paid... funnily enough the better paid office jobs that a lot of the time are useless at best don't generate any wealth by themselves, so I get the resentment

[dire marsh]

TLDR : ZPG needs to hurry and release unicorn

[mortal cobalt]

I mean I’ve done quite a lot of different things from fast food to custodial work to office work to skilled trades (sheet metal) to running my own business and yeah there is zero correlation between job pay and job difficulty and I want my unicorn

[dire marsh]

Swap out the micro switches with some ones while they are at it

[dire marsh]

Amen

Good take away

[cerulean leaf]

nah, give me clicky buttons

[fallen hinge]

Holy shit, I said one humorous remark. We don’t need to have another Euro vs NA debate.

[dire marsh]

Your cube is out for delivery

Wdym

[mortal cobalt]

I wish anbernic had gone dpad top for the cube

I would’ve loved it

The arc dpad is the goat

[cerulean leaf]

you think I'm ditching the just because of the 🧊 ?

[dire marsh]

At least we might get a 40XX Cube with a dpad up top 🤔

Maybe

[dire marsh]

Yes

[mortal cobalt]

It’ll be a mediocre 35xxH dpad though

[dire marsh]

That’s exactly what I’m thinking

[fallen hinge]

At least they aren’t as loud as the SP (according to forthenext)

[mortal cobalt]

I’d love a stickless xxCube with the arc dpad

[cerulean leaf]

naturally the Unicorn would have to be available at some point and a reasonable price would certainly be preferred, because I ain't paying 200€ for a Helio G99 device in 2024... but I still want one, 1:1 supremacy

[dire marsh]

Pitch can be worse then sheer volume

You can dampen volume

But high pitch pierces through anything 😤

[dire marsh]

We’ll have to see

Maybe I’ll just get a 406P for DS and use this layout

Or maybe retroid releases something more desirable

You never know

[dire marsh]

Would you be down to sell the cube if u like unicorn more though? 🤔

[cerulean leaf]

Probably not, at least if I don't have some major grief with the CUBE, which I can't say before even getting it.

[dire marsh]

So u keep both

That’s some 1:1 dedication

[mortal cobalt]

imagine, arc dpad, 3.1" 720x720 screen (retro pixel pocket screen), 6 face buttons - like a tiny 1:1 sega nomad for arcade freaks

no sticks

[cerulean leaf]

most likely scenario yeah

[dire marsh]

Not happening

[mortal cobalt]

a boy can dream 😭

it would basically just be a 28xx but taller to fit an arc dpad on there and two more face buttons

[dire marsh]

It’s more likely for your house to get set on fire

[mortal cobalt]

well that already happened so now I'm entitled to my nomad mini

just this but with a 3.1" 1:1

shmups all day every day

[dire marsh]

Kinda sounds like this

[mortal cobalt]

basically yeah, that but smaller, no stick, and 1:1 instead of that big chin

and preferably with the two tone grey/black buttons, 100% black devices look cheap to me like they're 3d printed or something

[dire marsh]

Sounds like something you have to commission for $500+

[mortal cobalt]

probably cheaper to replace my arc S and accept it's a big boi

[dire marsh]

Let’s revisit this idea in a year

And see how close we’ve come 😁

[cerulean leaf]

just pitch it to Anbernic, they will run out of ideas in 12-18 months

[dire marsh]

True

[mortal cobalt]

I think we might actually see that 3.1" 1:1 appear again, and anbernic is going to make 3 or 4 more XX devices this year so who knows

[dire marsh]

Anbernic is speedrunning every design imaginable

[cerulean leaf]

I really wouldn't mind a funky 3.1" 1:1

[mortal cobalt]

they said they were doing 10-12 skus this year and so far with the 40xx for july they're averaging one per month

[acoustic perch]

There is also that one OLED panel from a BlackBerry Q10 that’s literally just the same screen but OLED (the 3.1” 1:1 is from a BlackBerry Q5).

[mortal cobalt]

so 5 more unrevealed designs, one of which is probably the 406, so the remaining 4 is gonna be 3-4 XX devices and 0-1 other t820 devices (405v? clamshell?)

[dire marsh]

40XX is kinda underrated

I can’t wait for what else anbernic does

[acoustic perch]

They just made some GBC kits that use it.

[mortal cobalt]

we'll see - if those sticks protrude and make it not very pocketable I'm out

[cerulean leaf]

I want a $70 rgb30 competitor

[dire marsh]

As long as it’s cheap enough I can oversee some of their drawbacks

[dire marsh]

Anbernic still have 4 more slots available for a 40XX cube

[mortal cobalt]

but yeah an rgb30 mini from anbernic with an h700 and 3.1" 1:1 would be great as long as it ditches the sticks and uses a good dpad

[gritty basin]

I hate to directly or indirectly defend this shit country for any reason, but the median (not mean) income here is actually pretty fucking high if the OECD is to be believed. We have a low federal minimum wage, but in reality almost no one works for that. Something like 1.5% of workers actually work for that amount. I live in a red state with no state min wage and all the fast food places right next to me are hiring for $12 - $16 starting.

[cerulean leaf]

wait what, median income is only 33kUSD?

[mortal cobalt]

yeah the median isn't bad in many places but the important thing to remember is that half of your population by definition is under that median and there's a lot of variety in how far

[mortal cobalt]

yup.

[cerulean leaf]

that's not even 31k€, we are fucking pooooor 😱

(big surprise, only the coffers of the state are full here)

[mortal cobalt]

for every 200k ai engineer in SF there's a family of 12 living in a tar paper shack in the appalachians

USA is a big place

same with Canada, I grew up in one of the poorer parts of it and now live in one of the richest

[cerulean leaf]

yeah, well, wage isn't spread as widely here tbh, you can probably catch 95% of the population working full time somewhere between 25-90k€/year

[dire marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/started-from-the-bottom-now-were-here-hardwork-pays-off-drake-gif-13386082

[mortal cobalt]

it was quite the culture shock going from being one of the upper end of middle class in nova scotia to a university mostly populated by rich toronto kids and suddenly being the poor one

[gritty basin]

Median is actually a pretty good measure of how the average joe is living, it's mean that you have to watch out for.

[mortal cobalt]

you still have to keep an eye on deviations though - 49% of your population making $1 a year and starving to death while 51% of your population makes bank gives you a really good looking median

personally I'm far more concerned with how a nation treats its poor than its average joes

but anyway, we should probably try to get back on topic before stubbs jams his nubs in our eyes

[cerulean leaf]

median is 50% of the population has less than the median, we ain't talking average

so yeah, 49% of them could make 1$

but that seems a bit unrealistic

[mortal cobalt]

obviously that's the extreme example

just saying there's a reason we measure FPS 10% lows and not just median when we're benchmarking a gpu

[cerulean leaf]

also as someone mentioned above only 1.5% of the people seem to work for minimum wage in the US, that is incredibly low tbh

like I wouldn't be surprised if 30% or even more of the German population slave away for 12€/hour

[mortal cobalt]

yeah so when you look at 30% of germans at minimum vs 1.5% of americans (if that is the breakdown) it looks good for america, but then ask, what percentage of americans earn less than 12 euro per hour and you might get a different picture

stats are hard

games are easy

that's why I spend all day playing donkey kong country instead of reading econ papers

[cerulean leaf]

fair enough, but I doubt too many work for that kinda money in the US and you shouldn't forget about the wildly different amount of taxes people have to pay here

[mortal cobalt]

now I'm really crossing a line on the politics rules so hopefully I don't get banned, but you also have to account for what you get for those taxes - americans spend a LOT of money in taxes if you consider their healthcare premiums to basically be a tax paid to for-profit corporations instead of their elected government.

here in canada we pay more in taxes than they do in the USA, but not by enough to justify taking on health insurance as an added burden

[cerulean leaf]

health care in the US is so bad, I would be long dead or at least in heavy debt, so I can't argue with that

[mortal cobalt]

I had a weird heart arrhythmia thing a few years ago that was resolved in hospital within 2 hours of arrival via electrocardioversion only to later learn it's a nightmare to get anyone in the USA to even do that procedure because it's so expensive and only permanently fixes the problem 50% of the time - so insurance would rather just put you on pills to manage the symptoms for the rest of your life with horrible side effects instead of just giving you the ol' bzzzt

I wouldn't own my own business today if I didn't have public healthcare because I couldn't have afforded to leave my old job if it meant giving up health insurance

[cerulean leaf]

neat, I would most likely be six feet under, because nobody in the US would dare to call an ambulance and ubering my ass to the hospital wouldn't have cut it I think, let alone the medications would be hundreds of $ each month in the US, here I pay like 20-25€/3months

also oh boy, I don't want to imagine what kind of bill Christmas on the ICU would have racked up, 10€/day is enough, greedy bastards

[mortal cobalt]

here people complain about the cost of long hospital stays... because they usually have to pay for parking

[cerulean leaf]

taking the ambulance is 10€, why would you go in your own car?

[mortal cobalt]

that's something that varies a lot province to province

my ambulance ride in BC was free, my ambulance ride in NS was $250 which was luckily covered by my employer since it was a workplace accident

[dire marsh]

If only professional teeth cleanings were also cheaper

[cerulean leaf]

they totally ripped me off tho, like the dragged me to the nearest hospital first for 10€ and then shipping me off to a specialized one another 10€

[mortal cobalt]

We're supposed to finally be getting public dental 70 years after we got public healthcare here

[cerulean leaf]

just throw your job and be on welfare if you need a new set of teeth

[cerulean leaf]

public dental is a scam tbh, if you are working they pay next to nothing
if you are on welfare, they will foot the bill
same for our "guest" btw, which resulted in some insurances running out of budged at the end of the year, so dentists had to work for free

but that is really getting too political tbh

[mortal cobalt]

obviously there are many different implementations of any service

[cerulean leaf]

sure sure, hope it turns out somewhat beneficial for the majority of the people

[severe breach]

Hallo (I'm in Germany for a little bit)

[raven knot]

Do not!
That seller is the one that marked my order as sent before ZPG had finished assembling them.
They later cancelled the shipment and said they were unable to supply it, and I should lodge a dispute.
Aliexpress won’t let you ask for a refund on a shipped item (even if shipment has been cancelled) until a couple of months after the delivery estimate.
I eventually got a refund via PayPal, but Aliexpress fought this so it took weeks to get the money instead of PayPal’s usual few days.

[urban plover]

Well now you tell me

[leaden orchid]

What is that?

[dire marsh]

Ozone Windchaser 2

[leaden orchid]

Ohh thank you!

Wow that price, I swear I saw a similar one for less while browsing ali... can't remember what it was though.

[dire marsh]

Zpg bubble maybe

[urban plover]

Alright y'all don't worry

AliExpress refunded me already

[queen parrot]

ZPG A1 Unicorn for $155 shipped shows up on sale on AliExpress. As usual use Paypal to protect from being scammed. The domestic price in China was around $130 for the 6GB model so this price is still over that but much more reasonable than what I paid when I ordered mine a few weeks ago (I paid $195) The Unicorn is a really nice handheld but the cube also exists in this same price range.

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkBjROR

[spark current]

my unicorn is en route

[cerulean leaf]

197€ and doesn't ships to my location

[queen parrot]

hoping you fall in love with it cause I want gamma os on it lol

[urban plover]

Elf House Store

Is this the official listing? Because it's $170 on my end

[gritty basin]

$176 for me before taxes

[ripe estuary]

What it shows for me also

[fallen hinge]

Does “Choice” mean it’s a more reputable seller?

[sudden current]

choice just means its shipped directly by aliexpress. its like their equivalent of fulfilled by amazon

[humble relic]

Most elves I've met have been legit.

[raven knot]

Elf house is just a euphemism for sweat shop.

[mortal cobalt]

don't look too hard and it almost looks like an image worth drying up a few lakes for

[mortal cobalt]

"I ned husbant, I am from north pole"

[olive karma]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-kill-me-gif-13193623

[raven knot]

So… my second Aliexpress order has landed in my country after 2 weeks of nagging the seller to actually send something. Only a few more days until I find out whether that ‘something’ is a Unicorn or a Datafrog or a bag of kitty litter! 🙃

[cerulean leaf]

completely different, one has power, the other one has clicky buttons

one sits on my shelf, the other one can't even be ordered to my location

[mortal cobalt]

one has horrible cardinal snapping and the other hopefully doesn't

[marsh lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-laugh-trying-not-to-laugh-funny-laughing-gif-21086087

"I can buy one of them lol"

[mortal cobalt]

yeah

the race is on

not gonna buy a cube until I can put gammaOS on it and hopefully gamma is able to improve the stick response at least partially

not gonna buy a unicorn until I can put gammaOS on it and ZPG will actually sell it to me

either one I'd probably be happy with in the medium/long term

unless anbernic's sticks are unfixable, that would be a dealbreaker

[urban plover]

Unicorn looking pretty comfy ngl

[raven knot]

I like the stick & d-pad position better. It’s really nice to hold, feels almost like the shell has been cast or CNC’d. I’m on the fence about the clicky buttons.
For me it’s going to be about whether the Unicorn can handle the games I want to play at a resolution I’m happy with. If I have to 1x my 3DS games I’ll use the Cube instead.

[urban plover]

Probably will be all down to the game

[cerulean leaf]

next time someone names their device Unicorn, I won't hold my breath about it being available, seems more realistic to get a Snowcake at this point

[high raptor]

Is there more news about EU sales? Will it be possible to buy one on their Ali store

[cerulean leaf]

Nothing yet

[high raptor]

Hmm

[gritty basin]

I thought for sure we were going to hear something about western sales this week because of pic, but I guess not.

[vernal plaza]

Stoked to review this one

The first pic is a better representation of the color

[fallen hinge]

Is that light bleed I see?

[vernal plaza]

Mostly IPS glow you're seeing, I'll take a vid

Yeah only ips glow

[pastel quarry]

there are ota updates fyi

[vernal plaza]

Thanks ftn

[earnest mortar]

That last video is no light bleed with the usual IPS glow, I hope people aren't trying to get replacement screens based on that being "light bleed", otherwise they're gonna be very disappointed

Looking forward to the review Stubbs!

[vernal plaza]

Haha thanks man, I'm diving right into PS2. The G99 upper limit makes itself known pretty quick here, if priced right though, seems pretty solid so far if you're OK with less performance than RG Cube. Screen is nice, face buttons are quiet clicky but not SP fatigue style, more like gkd pixel, that will be a personal preference thing.

[acoustic perch]

As long as RetroCN convinced them to not go for that $150-$180 range he previously mentioned, yeah this does look neat.

[fallen hinge]

Are the sticks easily removable like on the cube?

[vernal plaza]

No cardinal snapping, yay!

[raven knot]

Yeah, I was trying to get Just Cause to a playable state last night… I think that’s a lost cause on G99.

[queen parrot]

Make sure you change it to high performance mode and don't think it's running crappy like I did until I realized there was a high performance mode button

[vernal plaza]

Yeah chipset limitation id guess, last time I used G99 was KTR1

[vernal plaza]

Yeah I already have that on 😆 good call

[vernal plaza]

Niiice!

How was switch for you?

[queen parrot]

Actually didn't even try it because of my expectation for it was that it would be poor I actually tried it on the KTR1 and didn't like it so I didn't really expect to even try it on this

It's running GameCube pretty awesome for me though

[vernal plaza]

Yeah that would be my guess, and 3ds works depending on game

[queen parrot]

My RG cube arrives finally tomorrow I'm excited to see what that is like for me. I've been surprised before so I'm hoping I have a very favorable reaction to it and hopefully I get a unit that has no light bleed of course

[vernal plaza]

@urban plover please see attached

[queen parrot]

I'm definitely ready that gamma brings his OS over to the unicorn sure hoping that happens

[vernal plaza]

Does the a1 need a different os rom you think? Seems solid so far

[urban plover]

But Stubbs
My favorite game is Burnout Takedown

[urban plover]

Looks fine to me

[queen parrot]

Not really I mean it's actually pretty darn good I think as far as Android implementations go it's really making the e6 Plus Android seem even more terrible

[vernal plaza]

Yeah need gamma on e6 plus! And cube/556 for sure

[acoustic perch]

Depends on if the image is effectively drop in for his other work (or at least just minimal tweaking), or if the KT-R1 was so jank and messily designed, that all of his work in cleaning up the KT-R1 image doesn’t actually help with the Unicorn or more standard G99 images in general.

[acoustic perch]

One thing I will say is very interesting is that Gamma did say he was actually thinking of getting GammaOS on the AYANEO Pocket Air, and he finally got a device from someone so that he has something to work with himself.

[queen parrot]

Nice The man is the saint I swear

[vernal plaza]

Oh that would be amazing

[gray rover]

[queen parrot]

I am interested in trying the actual IUX implementation if an English version does drop

[acoustic perch]

First outright excellent update the Pocket Air got in years, and it’s not even gonna come from AYANEO.

[gray rover]

IUX is good to use

We will upload a RA config pack for you guys before IUX English version is released

[queen parrot]

Oh nice. I also love the in line shoulder buttons. Not sure what others think but I'm glad it has that versus the kind that the cube has

[vernal plaza]

Ah some basic Vita games are working!

[vernal plaza]

Ah that is awesome!

Yeah some overlays will be nice to have

Priced under $150 USD?

Even 3D titles, geez, Vita emulation optimization is coming along nicely

[raven knot]

I’m an idiot! Thanks.

[vernal plaza]

Persona 4 Golden

[vernal plaza]

Dpad is solid, hadoukans are easy and consistent, I need to start actually filming this bad boy

[cerulean leaf]

sucks for Super Mario Sunshine, is what I think

[cerulean leaf]

given how the CUBE is $145-160 (depending on location) on gogamegeek, they should definitely go lower, but I bet this will be more expensive

[gritty basin]

I have 2 stupid questions for you Stubbs:

• How does the higher dpad placement (relative to Cube) feel for you? Is it a noticeable improvement for dpad centric gaming in your opinion? Or not really?
• How do you feel about the front-firing speakers?

[vernal plaza]

Will check on both in my testing

[dire marsh]

Domestic pre order price was $120 I wanna say

[queen parrot]

I know it wasn't asked but I'll throw in my two cents here the speakers is a weakness of this handheld it's one of the criticisms I have. It doesn't sound awful or terrible it just doesn't match the rest of the awesomeness of the unit in my opinion or maybe my particular unit is just not doing it. The d-pad yeah man that is the d-pad to have I think it's freaking awesome

[dire marsh]

Maybe they’ll manage $130

[dire marsh]

Any handhelds speakers you wanna compare them to?

[queen parrot]

Makes me wonder how much Arthur paid to get the g99 because we all need that to be driven down not upward so I'm hoping that they were able by ordering a large amount for the micro to help us all get better pricing on the g99

[queen parrot]

I'd say maybe the Nintendo DS Lite will be comparable I'm not sure let me check some other ones and see I just know that out of all the stuff on the unit is the one thing I noticed the most that was like not quite at the same level

[dire marsh]

If they are as good as the 2s speakers that would be great

Don’t quite remember my ds lites audio 😅

[acoustic perch]

The Cube and the Unicorn had the exact same domestic price, so that doesn’t help much since we already know what the Cube ended up as Internationally (specifically without a discount).

[dire marsh]

Cube was 999yuan

Unicorn only was 999 for the higher ram SKU

But given how 899 was a domestic pre order price you’re probably right

[cerulean leaf]

• shipping and vat this would end up at $175 anyway, even if they manage $130, which I highly doubt

[cerulean leaf]

well, the CUBE was only cheap in China to cannibalize the Unicorn anyway, western market probably wasn't a priority, given how the Unicorn ain't even available here

[dire marsh]

We might not even get the transparent colors too

This might similiar to the KTR1s first launch where u had to shell out over 200 / more then it’s worth for a g99

[cerulean leaf]

hold it, if I don't get the transparent black one, they can keep it

[gritty basin]

Yeah I need that transparent black.

[spark current]

🤐

[cerulean leaf]

Honestly, I don't really have much hope for the Unicorn left at this point, it's way too late and probably waaaay to expensive

at least I doubt it will be a $99 device like the rp2s and the CUBE is comfortable sitting in the rp4 base price range
the Unicorn may have some perks in overall build quality, but it's undeniably closer in performance to an t610 than the t820... let alone that while I prefer inline shoulder buttons for most systems, you can't even fully utilize it for the GCN/PS2 games it's capable off... at least I don't intend to play stuff like Super Mario Sunshine without analogue triggers

[gritty basin]

and the CUBE is comfortable sitting in the rp4 base price range

[acoustic perch]

Clearly you don’t think in terms of discount prices effectively being the standard prices.

Never buy an Anbernic handheld at the actual full value, there will always be a discount or sale right around the corner in almost every site that device is available for purchase from.

[cerulean leaf]

I got mine for 136€/$145 on ggg, even at the current price it's sold there at ~145€/~$155, which is about the price of an rp4 base for US citizens and even cheaper for EU folks, as retroid charges vat on top, while it's already included at ggg

[gritty basin]

Ah nvm, I misread that as the Pro. The RP4 Amateur still kinda mogs it tho imo.

For EU that's legit though. Forgot how bad Retroid shipping is there.

[cerulean leaf]

not that any EU citizen should order rp4 base, as you have a 100% chance of paying vat on that, while the rp4 pro is very likely to be smuggled inside without that bullshit

honestly, can't really complain about 136€ for the CUBE and 200€ for my rp4p
they are vastly more powerful than other stuff I have that has a way worse price/performance
like rp2s at nearly 130€

[acoustic perch]

It apparently gets to the point that I feel like you could buy an RP4 Pro used from the US and you’d still pay less than what a brand new base RP4 direct from Retroid would cost.

[dire marsh]

Shoutout to Ali express

[cerulean leaf]

what a deal

[dire marsh]

Schnäppchen

Bro thought he’s selling LG Wings

[queen parrot]

Mainly playing GBA games and some Nintendo DS games. Not really pushing it to any kind of limit but man that's pretty darn good for playing several hours of games as well as several hours of standby and sleep and using it for email and checking discord

[fallen hinge]

the buttons are louder than I thought

[vernal plaza]

Lightweight switch games working with sudachi

[raven knot]

I’ve not had any luck getting D3D running under Winlator or Mobox. Maybe it’s a driver incompatibility issue? I’ll try the Cube later.
Playdate Simulator works great though!

[fallen hinge]

I think the G99 has been slightly underestimated ever since it made its way to handhelds.
I’ve seen a lot of people say that it’s only like 10% stronger than T618 but actual emulation performance seems much closer to 20-25% stronger from what I’ve seen.

[minor brook]

Plus, it's very energy efficient because of the small process

[pastel quarry]

people really wanted to hate the KT-R1 (has a g99) when it was released

[dire marsh]

People really wanted to love it*

But they couldn’t 😔

[fallow pumice]

Yeah I was gonna say, that thing was hyped up a lot lol

[ornate fossil]

I’m way more interested in the unicorn than in the anbernic rgcube, the unicorn seem more pocketable and cute, i’m not a big fan of the chunkiness of the cube

[earnest lagoon]

He is not lying tho after few months the price would even down with discount itself same with rg556

[vernal plaza]

Yeah it's punching above its weight here, I'm impressed! Now I need to go check the KTR1 again

[gritty basin]

Oh yeah he's right, I just misread.

[spark current]

mfw people have been sleeping on GammaOS for the kt-r1

[mortal cobalt]

Tbf only like 300 people in the west even have a ktr1

[fallen hinge]

I wonder if they shipped a Unicorn to Russ already

[vernal plaza]

ANOTHER thing to check out on the KTR1

[mortal cobalt]

are you being sent a new review unit for the supposedly fixed revision?

could do a full re-review with gamma and the new controls

[vernal plaza]

Yeah, that is the game plan, it has been delayed a number of times, but just checked in with him again today. So we'll see.

[urban plover]

Gamma is what saved the KTR1

My personal issue with the KTR1 is just lack of communication and consistent QC concerns

[earnest mortar]

Agreed

[vernal plaza]

Found an issue on the unicorn, my left stick didnt have full range of motion out of the box, I had to calibrate it, mine needed a 65% dead zone radius and 50% center deviation to fix (in joystick calibration app)

Now all values report normal and in game character switches from walking to running normally.

[vernal plaza]

Update from the farm

[spark current]

https://youtu.be/2xUynRdzzsM?feature=shared

Sorry, couldn't resist

[queen parrot]

True that brother not me I'm blessed to have discovered you and your OS right as soon as I got my ktr1 now I'm just waiting for your blessing on the Unicorn

[queen parrot]

An imposter appears it's a RGcube in a snowcake travel case

[cerulean leaf]

It's honestly nutz how it almost is easier to get your hands on a freaking Snowcake than the Unicorn

[heavy dagger]

anbernic is really killing it with the metallic paints

[pastel quarry]

streaming some PS2 games on the unicorn: https://youtube.com/live/mXlkKr7C6i4?feature=share

goober - similar to your DC tip

I found something cool about the ps2 emulator, you can custom stretch vertically

[rocky imp]

Is it even saved lmao

[urban plover]

Gamma did the best at trying to unbreak a broken device

[rocky imp]

Oh yeah props to gamma but I think at any point the ktr1 can be considered dead

[gritty basin]

With the new controls it seems like a pretty rock solid device now

[rocky imp]

Did the controls actually come? Wasn’t that like the biggest meme for a while

[kind fulcrum]

where is ktr2

[acoustic perch]

With how much of a horrible mess the stock Android image was, the closest I can say is that “Gamma took a heavily injured person who was stuck in a vegetative state they were never expected to recover from, and managed to pull off a miracle that brought them back to consciousness with no signs of brain injury, but this still did nothing to help with the severe injuries on the rest of their body” in that the hardware issues are still numerous.

[gritty basin]

Yep. Some guy in the RGC channel demonstrated the dpad in Contra and Street Fighter #🐈│retro-game-corps message

[rocky imp]

Has it gone out to the masses is I guess what I’m really asking

[gritty basin]

I think it's still mostly just in China but I'm not 100% on that.

As far as where the new controls have been sent out, that is. My post wasn't very clear

[spark current]

My unicorm is stuck in customs limbo... In China

[queen parrot]

Ughh hope it escapes soon

[urban plover]

New controls
Same battery concerns

[junior shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-unicorn-rainbow-yeah-gif-27324049

[fallen hinge]

Any day now

[cerulean leaf]

we will be telling that to ourselves in a decade from now

[queen parrot]

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_mO02Jf6

[fallen hinge]

Is that ZPG selling it or another reseller?

[mortal cobalt]

another reseller

[karmic wind]

might be good to with for ZPG to start selling.

[hexed summit]

Is it common nowadays for those dubious store (like ending with digits) to be all labelled choice stores/items in AliExpress?

And did they change the interface/app to remove the function to ask questions to people who already bought the items?

[queen parrot]

The reason I shared this more than anything is because if these resellers are selling at this price it gives me hope that zpg will actually get the product out on their official website at an actual decent price. I think people should buy it from their official website when the international orders go live instead of going through AliExpress actually however for anybody that's eager to try and risk rolling the dice there's that's not a bad price

[hexed summit]

Just asking in general, as I have a previous bad experience with a "choice" item/store where AliExpress denied refund request in their app when item not delivered. The app/marketplace seems to be getting worse if all the randoms are getting the "choice" labels.

And yea, can't seem to find the ask buyers questions options at least in the app.

[queen parrot]

Yes I buy all the time from there and I have had mostly a positive experience but I have had one issue where I had to report that my item never arrived and all I did was attach proof that it arrived in a whole another state but I don't live in and they refunded my money pretty quickly but I always use PayPal and credit cards as well so that I can just rejected if for some reason I don't get this I need

[sudden current]

choice just means it's shipped by aliexpress. it doesn't mean anything about the quality of the store or items

people have had the empty bag scam from choice stores before

it's quite confusing now because you have both "pure" choice stores and regular stores with choice items

& i always prefer not to buy from the "pure" choice stores because you can't even contact the seller at all, it's all done through aliexpress, so there's no chance of them providing any product support or solving problems other than basic "refund if not as described" type stuff

basically they're trying to become more like amazon and it sucks

[humble relic]

@queen parrot liked your Unicorn vid. Looking forward to the comparison videos.

[queen parrot]

Thanks the cube has lots of positive but there's a few things I will show that I believe make unicorn better

[static forum]

oh man I hope this isn't the final pricing for the device

[cerulean leaf]

Honestly, at this point they would have to get it out for $99

[static forum]

and at that I'd buy it

mostly to try this form factor with good performance

[cerulean leaf]

@raven knot you may laught, but with shipping and tax it would be like 125-130€ that way to Europe. I paid 136€ for the Cube, so it's not even a significant price difference.

[raven knot]

If you’ve already got a Cube and you’re happy with it that makes sense. Personally, I’d be happy to pay quite a bit more for the Unicorn.

But it’s going to be a YMMV thing.

[cerulean leaf]

My personal choices aside, they will have to price it competitive enough to even sell units or people will just grab the Cube if that is actually going to end up cheaper, while having a fairly more powerful chipset

[calm dagger]

One of my cubes ended up being £200 to UK which is nuts (Import Tax). £40 more and i could have got a refurb steam deck 😂😅 but i agree. A1 will need to be cheap for it to compete

[cerulean leaf]

I would have told DHL that they can send it back, I ain't paying £40 tax on it

[calm dagger]

Yep and still had screen bleed. Disappointment all round 😂

[cerulean leaf]

I would just give them a bad review on eBay, most sellers are so concerned with getting them removed that they offer quite a bit of refund money

[calm dagger]

Yeah i did in the end 🤦‍♂️ i did get a partial refund. But only after a lot of complaining.

[dire marsh]

[severe breach]

𝓕𝓪𝓷𝓬𝔂

[fallen hinge]

A part of me want this to release now but after this long I don’t know if it’s better to just wait for the RP3s for a small powerful Android handheld lol
(Yes I know these two handhelds have different use cases but I mostly want to play 4:3 content anyways)

[gritty basin]

Did it ever escape?

[spark current]

https://tenor.com/view/magic8ball-simpsons-outlook-not-so-good-gif-13606372

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

I'm not in any rush tbh

[acoustic perch]

Just means you’ve got more time to enjoy the GammaOS fixes on the Cube.

[spark current]

Use of the word Enjoy is debatable

[acoustic perch]

Fair.

[acoustic perch]

Although I was mostly joking that you’d probably be already done with GammaOS for the Cube and just enjoying the completed version of it before the Unicorn actually gets to you.

[gentle hound]

Don't know about the case of KTR1
actually , how much performance can gamma OS boost on G99?
I noticed that the price of unicorn are quite close to Cube in my region

[maiden sage]

Cheapest forthe A1 i can see on Aliexpress is $174 which is same price as the Cube. The Slimmer form factor and front firing speakers should be nice but I would not go for it at this price would rather wait for lightbleed to be sorted on the Cube

[wise yew]

Wait for official store

[fallen hinge]

Any day now 👴

[cerulean leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-one-eternity-later-gif-7900643

[spark current]

There was some minor improvement with some experimental GPU drivers

Otherwise it was mainly QOL improvements

Stock driver

Experimental driver

[wicked trench]

If I am remembering right, the experimental drivers caused drastic to not launch games. I ended up switching back to regular drivers before I sold mine. Loved gamma os on my ktr1 before I sold it.

[gritty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Top561claWo

Some VERY interesting tidbits in that video

[maiden sage]

Anybody think there may be less supply of these in total seeing that ZPG is a smaller company?

[gritty basin]

yeah im pretty sure supply issues are going to be a nightmare

[maiden sage]

Just wondering if these may become sought after collectibles seeing that there may be less of them?

[humble relic]

If it didn't happen with the KRT1, it won't happen here

[rocky imp]

Basically none of these devices will become real collectibles

[vernal plaza]

Sounds like this one might be getting a bigger run

But Lao Zhang is in here, he can confirm hopefully

[queen parrot]

Holding out hope my two Snowcakes do become valued collectibles in 10 years or so

Especially number 10 of original run

[rocky imp]

It would be unlikely, and the value increase over 10 years is unlikely to be massive if it is.

That one would probably have a slightly higher chance because of how odd the whole thing is and limited, but for like 99.9% of these, history will just forget them

In like 20 years who will care about a miyoo mini plus or 351p

[ionic thorn]

Can someone load up a 2600 game on their Cube and check something out? Checked all the settings, but the aspect ratio isn't displaying correctly. Only when I add a tv affect over it does it seem to display the correct ratio. This isn't happening on any of my other android devices. Any thoughts?

[wise yew]

LOL. I like ending of the video

If you keep a doctor away you save more money so you can buy more handhelds

[fallen hinge]

So another silent delay to international orders?

[wise yew]

Yes. They cancelled transparent colors. The shells are wasted

[dire marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[vernal plaza]

Any ETA that can be shared?

[dire marsh]

Not transparent black

😭

[wise yew]

Hopefully end of this month. All remaining units will be produced in a few days

[wise yew]

They might sell picked transparent shells separately

Just my guess

[dire marsh]

picked transparent shells?

Can you explain further?

[wise yew]

I mean some transparent shells are not perfect

[fallen hinge]

No offense but I feel like this has been said every month for the past 2 months

[vernal plaza]

My overheated brain read this as "pickled transparent shells"

[wise yew]

They need to pick good ones. Anyway transparent colors will not be sold

[dire marsh]

Oh as in the yield rate for the shells wasn’t good

So like only a low quantity made it through production in good condition

[vernal plaza]

That's my understanding

[wise yew]

Yes

[dire marsh]

That’s a shame, but so be it

[wise yew]

This is not a crack but they think it is not acceptable. So they canceled transparent colors

[wise yew]

Let's see if they will sell transparent shells separately. If you like them

[dire marsh]

Probably not worth it at that point

[vernal plaza]

rip sweet purple

[dire marsh]

Maybe it’s something people can email them individually about

Like when you email a vendor and ask if they can include extra buttons

[wise yew]

They will pick shells without the random stripes

[wise yew]

Yeah. Anything could go wrong when you make a Android handheld for the first time. For example, have a baby

[fallen hinge]

True lol

[marsh lichen]

NOOOOOOOO

transparent purple

[gritty basin]

I hate to say it, but I'm not sure if I want one anymore if I can't get it in transparent black (or even purp). I really don't like that default color.

[cerulean leaf]

This is totally not acceptable, but how the fuck are they not able to make it without these issues?

[mortal cobalt]

any chance of new solid colours?

[wise yew]

There will be

[mortal cobalt]

solid green would be 😍

[wise yew]

I am fine with the transparent colors. But still looking forward to new solid colors

[cerulean leaf]

At least white with Black instead of stupid Red buttons

[wise yew]

Green does not mean well in Chinese culture. Not sure if you know

[mortal cobalt]

I did not know that

[wise yew]

How about pink

[cerulean leaf]

Noooo, GBC green or get out

[mortal cobalt]

GBP green

[dire marsh]

Hmmm

I don’t know

[wise yew]

If we say someone put a green hat on you. It means your wife is meeting someone else

[cerulean leaf]

Rejected, disliked it on the GBP already

[dire marsh]

On second thought that’s a teribble idea

Gonna delete

[wise yew]

That's why many Chinese boys are sensitive to green colors

[dire marsh]

Are sure it’s not because green is ugly?

[wise yew]

I know someone is addicted to green color

[cerulean leaf]

Maybe the wife is too

[dire marsh]

I know someone who is addicted to something green too.. ☺️

[dire marsh]

You have time to delete this

[wise yew]

Anyway, in the end of this month or next months, there will be plenty of Unicorn units to sell

White color and maybe two new solid colors

[cerulean leaf]

Won't hold my breath a this point

[haughty pelican]

Gonna need a source on that, esp given how jade is practically a national symbol.

[junior shoal]

With that logic there should be more red consoles and less black xD

[calm dagger]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007004536892.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=6000125272045&aff_fcid=76fd0373622d4c73af9fff63873660df-1720505742534-00611-_opAy4nS&tt=MG&aff_fsk=_opAy4nS&aff_platform=default&sk=_opAy4nS&aff_trace_key=76fd0373622d4c73af9fff63873660df-1720505742534-00611-_opAy4nS&shareId=6000125272045&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=2246c101037545b5a03b0a4570b4049c&afSmartRedirect=y

Looks like zpg store via ali is up

Although looks like ad for a1 not active yet

@vernal plaza just giving heads up for affiliate link when live

[vernal plaza]

😂

@tacit patrol @urban plover now we know

[vernal plaza]

Ayyee thanks man! Oh sweet so it is $130 in the end

[tacit patrol]

Very nice!

[vernal plaza]

No green hats Rob

https://rh-go.link/ZPG_A1_Unicorn $130 + shipping

[ripe estuary]

Link takes me to the store but can’t buy yet

[dire marsh]

145€ for this vs 136€ for a cube on gogamegeek, tough choice for eu people

[pastel quarry]

all my live testing of this handheld is here if you’re deciding: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBx_Mviz1VRhfUVe8iIgtUhzeXlrRWzlv&si=4ZEEVJUr0LaYndu_

[calm dagger]

Not active yet

Think they have only just setup the store

[calm dagger]

Showing as £104 for me, but all depends on how much tax it adds on at checkout. So for UK peeps at least. Can’t tell if this is a better deal than cube till active

[dire marsh]

It’s better then anbernic Ali store

But more expensive then ggg

[high raptor]

cube is more expensive

[dire marsh]

around 142€

It was 136€ during pre order time

Man that’s still cheaper

But it’s also anbernic

[high raptor]

I didn't use the coupon

[earnest lagoon]

sigh

Decision Decision

Who ever get gamma os first

[spark current]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[earnest lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-iron-man-well-you-are-wrong-gif-20682152

[fickle zenith]

Pixel had the green option though

[gritty basin]

Any chance of yellow??

[simple imp]

Real talk: This is probably my favorite Famicom scheme device I've had in person

The colors look right

Not like that R40s or stray super consoles

Until this guy, no one got the red right

[queen parrot]

Zu I agree the color is just like right

Colors Id like to see : Yellow, Silver and Orange with complimentary opposing colored buttons

[plucky locust]

It's a shame that I can't really see much of an argument for this over the Cube

[wise yew]

Pixel is so cute so we can ignore other cons

[wise yew]

I am not sure if eu people can actually order it. I am sure they don't have some qualification to sell in eu

[calm dagger]

Ah thats a bummer 😦 thanks for the heads up

[wise yew]

Eu people maybe need to order from resellers

[pastel quarry]

the red is good but mismatching thumbsticks was missed

[wise yew]

Actually, having official price low, resellers will set a low price as well

Ideally

[wise yew]

Yeah. Probably need a colored switch stick hat

[pastel quarry]

I found mario red but not this red

[severe breach]

Not getting transparent purple hurts me deep in my soul

[gritty basin]

At least for me it comes down to a couple things:
-more comfortable dpad position (allegedly, but the higher placement does look more comfortable to me)
-dpad is allegedly easier to press and looks to have more pivot
-front firing speakers
-clicky face buttons

[plucky locust]

Zu briefly mentioned the controls, but if they are significantly better that's a point in its favor

Front firing speakers are more a "nice to have" for me

[pastel quarry]

the grip and profile is a bit different, if you have bigger hands the cube might not be as comfortable

[plucky locust]

It looks less comfortable to me, but I have bigger hands. Realistically I should never argue "there's no reason for this over another handheld" because people will always have specific preferences. In general though, it's having a tough time competing

[pastel quarry]

yes I agree, especially if you are able to get the cube for below 150

[fallen hinge]

Main selling point will be that it’s actually pocketable compared to the cube (sorry Techdweeb)

[plucky locust]

I'd think this is still too big and chunky to be "pocketable"

[rocky imp]

Yeah pocketable isn’t equal to, well it fits in my pocket I guess

[plucky locust]

I could shove an Odin into the right pair of pants

Still not pocketable

[acoustic perch]

Eh, I will say if it’s pretty much the exact same size as the RGB30 in everything but the width with those grip bumps adding a bit, then the Unicorn will at least be more pocketable than the Cube.

[queen parrot]

For me the placement of the USBC is enough because I like to dock these units and I can't stand where they put it on the cube

[acoustic perch]

Still not exactly tempted to get this though considering I’ve already got the Cube.

(Especially now that it’s confirmed that the Clear shell options are not gonna be available by default, that purple was the one thing that was tempting me).

[queen parrot]

My cube that is supposedly fixed still has a little bit of light bleed issue as well I sure hope they can get the units out with none of it because the screen is perfect on the unicorn at least the one I have and the others I've seen

[mortal cobalt]

If this has a better dpad than the cube in both construction and position then it’s the cube that’s redundant imo

99% of what you’re gonna want to play on a 1:1 is dpad focused

[fallen hinge]

I thought we already had this discussion, “pocketable” is gonna vary person to person obviously. We have people in here who think anything bigger than a Miyoo Mini isn’t pocketable and we have people like Russ and Techdweeb who are more generous with the term “pocketable” than most folks. And we also have someone like Joey who straight up doesn’t like putting any handhelds in their pockets.

[rocky imp]

If we accept it’s subjective, then me personally, I’m not going call a big square pocketable.

[severe breach]

To me, the TrimUI Smart is what I'd consider pocketable. Any bigger and nah.

[earnest lagoon]

It's basically bag pocketable or big jacket pockets

[acoustic perch]

And baggy shorts.

[haughty pelican]

Gave my then partner a start when I pulled a whole-ass tablet out of my coat pocket on the subway. She accused me of being part Time Lord.

[earnest lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprise-hiding-kitten-kitty-gif-18399089

With my cube device

[rocky imp]

Tbh the only thing I personally pocketed was the 28xx or 35xxsp

[acoustic perch]

Although I still just keep them in my shoulder bag regardless and only keep 1 thing like the 28XX, 35XX SP, and/or Miyoo A30 in my pocket.

[rocky imp]

Otherwise I take a backpack everywhere

The 28xx personally was the best for pocketability

It’s like nothing was there

[acoustic perch]

Oh agreed, it was fitting perfectly fine even with PartTimeCAD’s slim case.

[queen parrot]

For me anything that would be truly pocketable usually has a screen that's too small for my old 50-year-old eyes but I'm looking forward to some high-res crystal clear 2.4-in screen at some point that truly is pocketable

Trimui Smart is close and pixel also is treat but I would really like to have something with a 3X GBA screen at a 2.6 or 2.8 in screen and a horizontal form factor that is truly pocketable

[modern garnet]

Not active yet, but this seems to be the official Ali store link:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ms1tXmG

[spark current]

https://tenor.com/view/jhope-arson-jhope-arson-fire-bora-fire-gif-26207734

[pastel quarry]

rare one

[queen parrot]

All right Grandma is that the one you got it does look beautiful and they're not making any more so you've got a unique one sir if that's yours

[spark current]

It's mine

Rare pepe

Will cherish it

[cerulean leaf]

It's total bullshit that they can't figure out how to do the transparent ones properly

I want my transparent black one

[minor brook]

Why was the Game Boy Pocket simply 28 years ahead of its time?!

[severe breach]

That part they're concerned about really doesn't look that bad to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Gimme the purp

[civic blade]

The transparent purple looked so good in every pic they sent

The best transparent purple in a device imo

[spark current]

I love the color

I wish everything came in this color

the shell is nice

[queen parrot]

I just read the autocorrect changed your name to Grandma that was not on purpose I promise but it is kind of funny now that I read it you are always the amazing gamma

[cerulean leaf]

rejected

[cerulean leaf]

oh hell nah

[wise yew]

Transparent black + red. Not retail version. Just for fun

[wise yew]

One of the new solid color opinions

[mortal cobalt]

I like it

maybe a little too 'edgy' for me but it'll take a lot to move me off of the white + red famicom colourway tbh

[tacit patrol]

🔥🔥🔥

https://tenor.com/view/antonio-banderas-oh-sweet-impressed-not-bad-gif-9592821

[cerulean leaf]

just give me boring old black on black if my transparent black dreams are dead

[dire marsh]

Looks like my white socks when I accidentally put them in the washing machine with something red

Maybe it’s the lighting

[mortal cobalt]

so we've got white, pink, and ???

[gritty basin]

I like pink, but I need to see it with the controls in. 🤔 Might just be the lighting like Jigg said, but I'm wondering if it's a bit too desaturated.

[gentle hound]

May I ask a question about the domestic product,
is there the same crack issue in transparent black as the transparent purple?

[wise yew]

1. That is not a crack
2. Both transparent colors have the issue.
3. Transparent colors are cancel for both international and domestic markets

[gentle hound]

Oh , so the transparent shell of the domestic reseller is the early product?

[wise yew]

Yes

[severe breach]

I mean it's not that gorgeous purple but I guess it'll do

[mortal cobalt]

just need gammaOS and the new colourway reveals

[cerulean leaf]

they need to ask Anbernic to produce the transparent shells for them

[severe breach]

I would aboslutely take one of the "defective" purple shells. That flaw really doesn't bother me much at all.

[cerulean leaf]

I would absolutely extort a huge partial refund from the costumer support for that kinda shit

especially given how pricey the Unicorn is gonna be, I would totally mind such defects

but it's really funny that they ain't able to produce the shells properly, I mean, it's not the first transparent device ever made

[dire marsh]

Maybe Lao Zhang tried to rush this because of his baby’s birth

So he didn’t slowly check with smaller batches to detect any qc issues before they spread to more units

[modern garnet]

Many transparent shells have come to market with issues, retroid, Ayn, etc.
LZ pulling flawed shells before shipping them all over the world seems like a sensible answer

Better than telling us to deal with it and selling replacement shells in 6 months

[severe breach]

I still wish we had an option to get them, tho, flaws and all.

[gritty basin]

imo the only flaws were the mass assembly QC issues that affected the white model equally. Who the HECK cares about that internal bracket that looks like a crack for a second until you actually look at it?

[iron wolf]

Has this even come to the market yet for international buyers? Original statement said late April or early May with a price tag of around $125usd.

[cerulean leaf]

~$125usd is pretty certainly only domestic price, so far we only have seen overpriced re-seller

[mortal cobalt]

this is the official link

so approx 130 usd plus a bit of shipping

[cerulean leaf]

not shipping to my location and 145€

[mortal cobalt]

yeah I don't think the official store has the required certs to sell to EU customers

and it's not active yet

but yeah I'm looking at 142-ish usd all in as a canadian

or just shy of 200 CAD

a solid 40-50 CAD cheaper than the rg cube!

anbernic right now on sale wants 170 usd to ship to me which is 232 CAD

[cerulean leaf]

probably could get it cheaper on gogamegeek tho

I mean the CUBE

[mortal cobalt]

I could get the cube via GGG without roms after a coupon code for 155 usd all in which is 212 CAD

so still more expensive than the unicorn but not by as much

[cerulean leaf]

sounds about right

[mortal cobalt]

personally I think the dpad position and front firing speakers on this one are more important to me than the power bump on the cube

I would never use either of them for ps2/gamecube and up over just using an x86 handheld personally

[cerulean leaf]

I'm rather in on these smaller "GBA"-sized devices being able to play GCN/PS2, so it's pretty neat that the CUBE has enough power to handle them

tho I probably would favor the form factor of the Unicorn - not that the triggers would be good for a bunch of higher end games

[dire marsh]

Yes indeed

[gritty basin]

I already returned my Cube because I couldn't gel with the dpad position. At least as someone in the US, I think the price is great. I just need a decent alternative color to purchase.

Well, that and I need for it to actually go on sale.

[mortal cobalt]

I like the white and red but I want to know what the other colours are before I pull the trigger

[cerulean leaf]

I'm not in on the white and red and as long as the price isn't decent I won't pull the trigger anyway, even if 145€ is the final price that's still CUBE territory... in fact I only payed 136€ for mine, so it would certainly be nice if this is at least down there

[gritty basin]

Maybe we'll get more info on colors/orders this week.
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[humble relic]

This was my number one reason not to buy. Glad I'm not the only one here.

[fallen hinge]

@crimson owl

[cerulean leaf]

stop with the stupid red buttons on the black UNIT

[queen parrot]

Those look awesome where did you get those crystal did Are those yours?

I'd like to see one that's using somewhat close to the blue color that the RG 40XX H is using

[fallen hinge]

Official twitter account:

https://vxtwitter.com/Z_Pocket_Game/status/1812500248121782363

[cerulean leaf]

I want an all black unit

I mean they already should have those buttons for the former transparent units, why wouldn't they use them

[earnest lagoon]

You should embrace that red and black 😏

[cerulean leaf]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over simply not buying a device that I visually dislike
transparent black and purple were fine, out of these I dislike all, heck pink would be the best option

the biggest shame is that black and white both would be fine if they just had black buttons

[earnest lagoon]

I can't lie

Pink look nice

[gritty basin]

Pink buttons and dpad??? Alright fuck it I'm in

Gonna have to do something about the black analogs but I can manage that much

[cerulean leaf]

at least putting in white ones would already look better, yeah

[sudden current]

i like the black & red. gives mega drive

i prob will get that one

[mortal cobalt]

NES for me

but I think I'm still on team white and red out of those

but the pink is cute

[high raptor]

Is this comming to resellers like keepretro and gogamegeek?

[cerulean leaf]

probably the only way they will get it to the EU

so hopefully

[high raptor]

I hope so too, would like to purchase one

[modern garnet]

Damn, those colours are looking great. I'd not buy a pink device, but that is quite nice.
The black and red looks amazing

[haughty pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-maul-precisely-exactly-right-gif-25473204

[raven knot]

The pink is calling me… black buttons and sticks on pink would be neat.

[ornate fossil]

Dang the pink is cute

[summer river]

Black and red looks great.

[severe breach]

I really wanted that transparent purple, but I can do the pink

[cerulean leaf]

It's crazy to think that pink would be my preferred color out of the currently shown options

I don't want pink 😂

[acoustic perch]

Honestly the black one looks great, but I’d also be tempted by the pink one in wanting to make it Kirby-Themed.

[mortal cobalt]

Kirby stick caps, Kirby’s adventure (nes) decal, what else?

[queen parrot]

If you're willing to row the dice on AliExpress reseller there's one selling them or at least claiming to in purple

[severe breach]

I'd go 100% all in on going Kirb with this guy

[cerulean leaf]

I honestly dislike the combination, it looks well... like a cheap toy... which in all fairness, it is... but come on, at least include one a bit more neutral option

otherwise I'm really going for the pink one 😅

or at least sell some black buttons alongside the white/black device, so I can just swap it

also it's funky, because I'm pretty sure the rgCUBE got slammed for attempting a black/red combination

[ornate fossil]

I find it adorable to see so many grown-up man finding the pink one as the best color

but yeah the pink on loos so neat and different from other handhelds

[acoustic perch]

Eh, I think it looks neat. Honestly all this stuff in general is just opinions. I still think the White and Red is my second favorite of the Cube options, and I already preferred the Purple one.

[fallen hinge]

The reseller listings on Aliexpress have been getting even cheaper since the official listing lol

[acoustic perch]

If people liked the Black and Red Cube before they went with Black buttons, then they liked that one. If people like the White and Red color scheme, then they like it.

[spark current]

Hmm for the pink one, perhaps they should go with white sticks?

Or matching pink?

btw the face buttons are more shallow and are microswitches, just in case that matters to you

Takes a little getting used to

[acoustic perch]

Makes sense. Resellers only make a profit if the cheaper official option isn’t available, once the official option is readily available, either they lower the prices or they don’t make any money at all.

[severe breach]

My favorite color growing up was purple. Got made fun of for it and "hated" purple. But now I'm a grown-ass adult and I'm gonna like all the pretty colors I want

[cerulean leaf]

who said we are grown men? 12y/o with decades of experience ☝️

[junior shoal]

add yellow and it’s deutshcland 😏

Purple and pink well it’s a unicorn alright

🦄

[cerulean leaf]

you really want to make the color even worse?

[haughty pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/yellowjacket-antman-marvel-gif-25405727

[cerulean leaf]

There is no red in this

maybe it would actually look decent as a color combination for the Unicorn

I just think it's too much with the black/red tbh, if only the face buttons would be red I wouldn't even complain

[haughty pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/maul-darth-maul-sith-clone-wars-clone-gif-22116943

Give us Red and yellow too.

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-tony-stark-robert-downey-jr-marvel-superhero-gif-16430080

[cerulean leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/black-black-is-such-a-happy-color-addams-family-gif-9549459

[crimson owl]

omggggg

I want

lol

I don't need another device, though

the rg cube is so so good

[karmic dagger]

i want this one over the cube - just waiting to be able to order it! i agree

[strong atlas]

Is the zpg a1 official case out yet? Thanks

[modern garnet]

The a1 isn't even out yet, let alone the case

[acoustic perch]

Plus the carrying case is included with the device for free (and a TPU bumper case).

[strong atlas]

Thanks, I ordered 1 off AliExpress but didn't say it came with a case etc? Hopefully when it arrives I will have a carry case with it! 😃

[acoustic perch]

The official listing isn’t out yet, you might have gotten it from a reseller.

[vernal plaza]

@pallid patrol here's the official listing, as soon as we get word its live, we'll let everyone know.

https://rh-go.link/ZPG_A1_Unicorn

[pallid patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/he-man-fabulous-wink-blink-gif-8638105320087386993

[static forum]

I wonder if more people are gonna sell their RGB30s for these

[gentle hound]

Finally get one from a reseller(yeah the color), the button is clicky but quite satisfy , but there is not enough ram for playing several song in my favourite 3DS game (project mirai)

[severe breach]

That color looks so good 💜

[shell jolt]

How’s the display? Is it light-bleedy like Anbernic’s Cube?

[queen parrot]

no discernible bleed on either of my unicorns., but my cube does have some

[thorny beacon]

Hot damn, that purple color way looks good

[mystic surge]

no light bleed on mine either

[severe breach]

They definitely fucked up by outright throwing out the purple

[static forum]

damn right they fucked up

[modern garnet]

If it has issues and the shell is going to crack within months of use, then they probably did the right thing

People would be way more pissed if it starts breaking

[severe breach]

Honestly I'm not convinced that that flaw isn't present in the opaque shells. You just can't see it. I'd rather see it and know it's there.

[modern garnet]

I'll take the devs word on it.
Transparent shells being weaker has been a thing before

[cerulean leaf]

are those unicorns in reasonable colors? 🥹

[dire marsh]

I can’t tell if the right one isn’t a metal shell

[cerulean leaf]

probably only some metallic color

[severe breach]

The right one is a Snow Cake. Look at the Start/Select buttons.
Oh wait you mean the silver-y one

Yeah it does look like a metallic color at least.

[mortal cobalt]

yeah the red one in the pic is not a unicorn

[gritty basin]

Yeah, as far as I'm aware, the "flaw" was simply that this interior bracket looks like a crack to some people. #1168252795783225424 message

[cerulean leaf]

I'm quite happy if we get the black/silver colors as shown above

[gritty basin]

Lao Zhang also posted this stuff in the other 'cord btw.
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[queen parrot]

Sorry guys I was driving after I posted this that is a metal shell somebody on Billy Billy did an unboxing of his metal shell unicorn

The material reminds me of the material that used on the windchaser 2 so I think it's similar

[haughty pelican]

Is that a good or bad thing?

[queen parrot]

So I think most people will find it to be a good thing because the newer metals are using are lighter weight cuz some people have complained in the past about the weight but for me the original wind Chaser feels more premium so I think that they just have found a metal that is less dense and probably easier to make but it just doesn't have that really nice premium feel like the snow cake. I see that magnesium is starting to be used I'm not real greatly familiar with all these Metals but I'm trying to learn

Like if you've ever held a 405m that metal is closer to the original wind chaser. The windchaser two is just different it is lighter but it just doesn't feel as premium

Original windchaser on the bottom

[urban plover]

Hey just sending the headsup that with some units arriving stateside, even if they're from resellers, we'll be closing this thread and migrating everyone over to the brand new #1260263780223549471 channel.

If there's any info you think should be included in the A1 Big Pin let me know, otherwise I'll be locking this channel at <t:1721952000:f>

[dire marsh]

Sounds good brother Ban

[acoustic perch]

As long as he hasn’t ditched the Black/Red, White/Red, or Pink options I’m happy.

[wise yew]

https://x.com/z_pocket_game/status/1816443021787082870?s=46&t=_wFpXXo9lvWtZUZVrQK4Bw

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