ZPG A1 Unicorn

[wintry cedar]

shipping slated for end of may

[wise yew]

8+256 is gone. Just a reminder

[acoustic perch]

Is that for Domestic orders only?

[cerulean leaf]

No, generally

It's a shame about the internal storage tho

[swift lagoon]

Is there even a way to order this internationally yet? Also are there any plans for a metal shell version?

[wise yew]

Aliexpress

It is too early to talk about DIY metal version

[swift lagoon]

But the price there doesn't seem in line with the announced price.

[wise yew]

They are not official stores

[gritty basin]

Have any domestic reviewers received their Unicorn yet?

The test units sent out, that is

[wise yew]

I am not sure. These will be some Chinese reviews coming out recently

[ripe estuary]

Can I order this yet?

[gritty basin]

I wanna say they said orders for western peeps will go up end of the month or June

[urban hollow]

At first it was late April/May so let's hope international pre orders go live in late May.

If it goes to June I don't see much of anything stopping it from sliding to July...

If it gets to July it risks running into Retroids mid summer device launch whatever that may be. Lots of people have asked them to do a handheld like this. (I think they are doing a flip 2 personally) So it could cut into sales. Also anbernics "device" looms in people's imaginations.

[torpid trench]

A quite poweful yet non 16/9 Retroid would be nice, indeed.

Plus with an eventual RG406, ZPG should definitely hurry up to be first. Miyoo didn't hurry up and relaesed a A30 arguably much worst that RG28XX, and it won't meet as much success as if it was released before.

[raven knot]

Anybody here ordered this from Aliexpress? I know waiting is recommended but,,, it’s tempting me.

[dire marsh]

340€ 🥲

That’s like $365

While domestic prices are $115-$125

Or 899-999rmb

There are some us listings for around $230 but that still over priced

Better wait

[raven knot]

US$365 is way too much!
But $230 isn’t so bad. I’ll be surprised if international pricing is <$150.

[dire marsh]

$150 sounds feasible

[cerulean leaf]

if it's over 160€ I will wait for a sale tbh

[humble relic]

If it bumps against the RG556 pricing, this doesn't make sense.

[gritty basin]

yeah its okay if they go a bit over the $125 Chinese price, but $150 and above is too much imo.

[wise yew]

899/7=128.4285714

999/7=142.7142857

My guess is 150-180

[cerulean leaf]

as much as I want it, an rg556 is about 185€

this really should be closer in pricing to the t618 devices

[severe breach]

Remember, the 999RMB one isn't a thing anymore

[urban hollow]

$150+ equals a dead on arrival device for me, that's really disappointing to hear.

$180 is territory is

[dire marsh]

It literally can’t if anbernic announces the 406p for a lower price with better performance close to global launch of the unicorn

[iron wolf]

Rp4p and Rg556 exist.. this sits in power between those. When it was announced they said $125 and $140 then cancelled the $140 model. I'd hope this thing is like $150 tops so they stay true to their original statement.

[iron wolf]

paying over $150 for this thing would be a mistake when those devices above exist.

Rex says $150-180.. thats big yikes from me.

[urban hollow]

This is gkd pricing all over again.. why rebrand If you aren't going change business strategies.

[urban hollow]

Paying $150 for this device with the cost of shipping on top of it is too much already in my opinion. Shave off $15-20 and maybe we can talk.

[marsh lichen]

hopefully the software doesn't suck

[spark current]

I probably won't work on this if the price is not competitive, doesn't make sense for me to do that from a ROI of time/energy POV

[marsh lichen]

I wish they used a taller panel, we're in dire need of a vertical horizontal handheld

[spark current]

Let's see how international pricing looks, but if it's not a compelling price vs something like the RG556, then no point sending me a dev unit as uptake will likely be low.

[humble relic]

Which device that you've worked on has had the most downloads of CFW?

Well untill Gamma OS core releases 🙂 . That will likely get a good reception.

[spark current]

405/505 series

[dire marsh]

@torpid trench

Seems like you can also go without the chin

[raven knot]

I’m specifically after DS + 3DS emulation at 2x with vertically stacked screens. I know there are still compromises in this form factor, but it should scratch my itch in a way that 5”+ landscape devices just don’t. If it arrives without major issues, it just might be the unicorn I’ve been searching for, and I don’t mind paying a bit more for that niche.

[wise yew]

899 is preorder price for 6+128
999 is retail price for 6+128

International version may include a tpu protector and a case.

[dire marsh]

how does that translate into usd

$126 and $140? :OO

[wise yew]

Roughly

Do you guys want the protector and case included with a little higher price or want them optional

[mortal cobalt]

probably both? like one listing for the whole bundle, one for just the handheld, and one for the accessories separately?

[wise yew]

Bundle is always cheaper to my understanding

[dire marsh]

We can do with the accessories(react with A) and for without ( react with B)

Give it a day and hope that people see it

[rocky imp]

Yeah I can’t see this selling a lot. But that likely also adds to the price

Incredibly niche

[wise yew]

Btw the protector and the case are both well made. They are must-have to me

[dire marsh]

Max Zhou is coming for them too 😔

[wise yew]

Haha. As international buyers, at least you don't need to preorder

[mortal cobalt]

if the anbernic one looks like that nitrx leak (a badly cut down 556) I don't think ZPG has anything to worry about

[dire marsh]

yeah worse dpad and worse shell

[wise yew]

Make sense to me

I have played it for a while. I am satisfied with it

[dire marsh]

we only have seen the tpu protector for the white model right

I wonder how the protector for clear black will look like

[dire marsh]

also if you post this on twitter https://twitter.com/RetroCN_Shop maybe a creator or two could retweet it

RetroCN Global Shop (@RetroCN_Shop) on X

Discord: https://t.co/xr1H9GvDLv

Twitter

[humble relic]

The protector have been included with some Anbernic devices 🙂 . That's really my preference. Include a tempered glass protector, case is optional.

[wise yew]

Screen protector is always included. I mean tpu protector

[wise yew]

Here. The shell itself is a prototype. Not final version

[dire marsh]

Sweet

[humble relic]

Oh that is awesome!

[dire marsh]

Absolutely lovely

[humble relic]

It'll come down to pricing honestly. If it is $3-$5 to add the shell, I'm game. It's a really tough market right now. Unless there's awesome controls or awesome CFW, it's hard to not just compare handlhelds by how much they cost.

[dire marsh]

Let’s hope

Cuz if US buyers think it’s too expensive

[dire marsh]

Then us EU-Frogs are gonna cry

[mortal cobalt]

the unicorn shape looks comfy

[humble relic]

From looks alone, it looks great. The challenge is fitting inbetween the RP2S and the RG556. This needs some sort of killer feature to separate it from the use cases of the RGB30 as well. Really rooting for you all and will buy one since you are on here 🙂 .

The RP2s has just awesome sticks too.

[gritty basin]

Does Daijisho work in 1:1 aspect ratio? 🤔

[humble relic]

Something ZPG could do that not alot of companies do is release the source code for the OS. Nearly all handhelds with a cult following has one due to continued community software feature support.

[wise yew]

I heard the source code of unicorn Android system Will be opensoure

gkd is a collaboration with someone. So They don't have full control to make decisions. Zpg is different

[humble relic]

For me, source code gives a clear advantage over many of Anbernic's android devices. It helps massively with improvements over time. Could drive some sales 🙂 .

[wise yew]

Just a reminder. International buyers will order from the shelf. Not preorder

[dire marsh]

if reviewers could get their hands on some units before international orders go live that would be the cherry on top

[wise yew]

Yes. They Will send a few review units after a while

[wise yew]

Yes. Already tested it

[humble relic]

Since there will be reviews anyway... were there systems you were trying to model the controls after?

[wise yew]

Sorry. What do you mean

[humble relic]

A good example would be the d-pad. Does the d-pad have the feel of one that we have used on other devices? It's round so it looks like one from a Sega.

[gritty basin]

Oh heck yeah, nice.

[humble relic]

It's just another selling point for me. If the controls feel great, I will like the device more. Trying to understand how the controls feel without touching the device 🙂 .

[cinder shoal]

The dpad looks like a Gamegear one to me

I mean, not literally, but same style

[wise yew]

What game do you want me to demonstrate

[mortal cobalt]

I love the look of that dpad

[humble relic]

So a lot of this is specific to my tastes which won't apply to many people. Thanks for being awesome and tolerating me :). One thing that can be a challenge on other handhelds is moving quickly from right to left. If the d-pad doesn't pivot well, it will press down and not move well between left and right.

[gritty basin]

You didn't ask me, but if you have any Dreamcast or Naomi shooters on there like Radirgy/Under Defeat/etc I'd love to see that.

Also I agree, the d-pad looks sexy as fuck. I didn't even make the Game Gear connection, but you're right, it does kind of look like that.

[humble relic]

I like the button size. Retroid buttons are too tiny IMHO.

[mortal cobalt]

yeah that dpad pivot looks great

the 28xx has a surprisingly large amount of pivot for a nintendo style cross too so my current best dpads for pivot are the 28xx and the rg arc

[humble relic]

Do you like the TrimUI Smart Pro pivot?

[mortal cobalt]

don't have that one

no real interest in a widescreen that doesn't play psp super well tbh

[humble relic]

RG556? That one, I don't like the pivot. Feels mushy to me.

[mortal cobalt]

don't have that one either. My widescreen niche is kinda filled by the odin 2, where I do like the dpad (retroid/ayn style vita dpad) but don't like the position for most lower end systems being on bottom

[left plank]

Nice device overall 👏

[wise yew]

I happened to have the game

[left plank]

When is this going to be available in the us market? And for how much approximately?

[wise yew]

Don't know how to configure the emulator to full screen. Maybe i am using an old version

[gritty basin]

Thanks Rex, this looks hot as hell

[dire marsh]

sorry to bother you, but do you also have ds games? 🥹

[wise yew]

yes. which one do you want to see

[dire marsh]

new super mario bros or a pokemon game 🥹

or even mario kart depending on what u have

[wise yew]

ok let me see

[left plank]

Can we also see performance for the 3ds? Thanks

[dire marsh]

I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to do some testing rex ;))

thanks

[marsh lichen]

this does look pretty epic

[wise yew]

I am collecting the latest pico8 games

[wet valve]

Wait wait wait how are you doing that send the link please I manually download them 💀

[wise yew]

Yes I know that one. but is is outdated

[wise yew]

Python

wow. could you send me the link..... What I saw is 1.4 version

[wet valve]

Plz share with the class 🥺

https://www.reddit.com/r/pico8/comments/1c2we6o/picowesome_v15_apr122024/

[wise yew]

cool

3.91G is overkill

[wet valve]

I need to find my mass renamer, RG28xx only likes these in .p8 format

[marsh lichen]

powertools has one

[wet valve]

I found this pretty user friendly one called Bulk Rename Utility

[cerulean leaf]

Case: yes
TPU: nope

Also the non pre-order price would translate to 168€ with vat for us EU folks, at that point this is getting a really hard sell tbh and even while I'm enthusiastic about this device, it would be hard to justify the price point in comparision to other handhelds on the market

Really should be about 150€ shipped and taxed

[wise yew]

I am not sure if they could even sell it to EU on Aliexpress

Selling to EU requires some qualification

[cerulean leaf]

So no Unicorn for EU at all? 😅

Well, guess some re-seller will do it, but the prices will be unholy

[wise yew]

Don't know. Need to wait and see

EU laws are special

How do you calculate vat

[cerulean leaf]

It's 19-21% depending on the country and comes on top of all cost, including shipping

[wise yew]

Why is shipping included

This is insane

[cerulean leaf]

That's harmless

Ever paid taxes on taxes?

Because "vat" is paid on everything, even if there are already other taxes on it

Like gas, oil tax, co2 tax and "vat" for it all

[zenith cipher]

Here's a BiliBili VOD from someone who has received theirs: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1k1421z79F/. Maybe someone who understands Chinese can see if there's anything interesting.

Teardown here: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1XH4y137xk/

[raven knot]

Well that’s done it. Looks great. Ordered. The scalper probably needed the cash more than I do anyway. 😄

[pastel quarry]

why order? it’s not even released yet

unless you preorder direct from zpg

[cerulean leaf]

For EU it would probably work best if it's sold for 169€ (incl. shipping and vat) via Cutesliving Store (AliExpress) or GoGameGeek, choice day coupons will get it in more reasonably priced waters at the beginning of each month at least and GoGameGeek usually has coupons aviable anyway. But we can just hope over here

[earnest lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/pp-small-gif-26080545

[raven knot]

Because I don’t want to wait another 2 or 3 months. 🤷‍♂️
it releases first in China, so I’ll pay somebody in China to send it.

[torpid trench]

@raven knot You should perhaps have a look at the RG Cube rumors. Pics suggest a Sega-style pad and a square screen. Knowing Anbernic, it could be available in EU-US before the Unicorn.

[queen parrot]

At first I wasn't sure about white red but it's grown on me

[gritty basin]

I'd like it a lot more if it had red sticks to match

like the aya neo pocket air.

[severe breach]

I'm still 100% down for purple, but the white and red really does look good.

[cerulean leaf]

transparent black, as with 80% of my devices is the way to go

[acoustic perch]

To be fair, the Pocket Air didn’t actually have the Red sticks, it was the cream white sticks. It just had the option to use red sticks by having a bag of extra stick options since they used Hall effect Joycon sticks and those can just be pulled off easily.

[gritty basin]

in other words, it did have red sticks 😛 I never claimed they were the default out of the box.

[acoustic perch]

So they could justify having those as an alternative option.

[acoustic perch]

I wasn’t done yet typing because I got pinged somewhere else.

But yeah, the alternative sticks could hopefully be cheap enough that they can just throw them in as an extra.

[fallow pumice]

Does anyone have the pics of all the colors? No pins in the thread lol

[mortal cobalt]

there are pins...

[fallow pumice]

What??? Oh my god they're under settings, what the hell discord lmao

Thanks thanks, I like that transparent purple but white and red is neatcho

[cerulean leaf]

I need that black one

[gritty basin]

yuuup, going for the transparent black one if the price is good.

[mortal cobalt]

white and red > purple > black

[cerulean leaf]

I would need some black buttons from another unicorn to make the white one pretty

[mortal cobalt]

the red buttons are the best part

[gritty basin]

red d-pad looks killer

[cerulean leaf]

I'm not against it, but black is the default color for me

[fallow pumice]

Does this just use standard switch style sticks? I'd love to be able to get a set of red sticks to match the buttons/d-pad

[severe breach]

Such a good purple 🙏

[fallow pumice]

This thang is definitely tempting me, though android means no native pico-8 without jumping through hoops and that's unfortunate

I really like all three color schemes, it's hard to decide which one I'm most interested in

[marsh lichen]

Ngl, I set up pico8 through winlator yesterday and the hoops were next to none

But yeah would love if they made a proper version

[marsh lichen]

This is legit the best purple I've seen on a handheld ever

[dire marsh]

🤔

[dire marsh]

It’s look saturated for sure

I wonder how it looks once you shine some light on it

[dire marsh]

Anyway we could get a sound test for the face buttons? 🥹

20 seconds with no games playing

Just button presses

[zenith cipher]

At 33:50 they compare the sound to the mouse button clicks to a Logitech G304, if that's any help https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1k1421z79F

[dire marsh]

Damn these really are straight up mouse clicks

[severe breach]

https://tenor.com/view/amphibia-pen-click-clicky-frog-gif-16159301

[iron wolf]

Did mine a few days ago - definitely a fan of it. But response time isn't amazing for celeste.

[rugged zinc]

Purple is love, purple is life. 😌

[rugged zinc]

I wouldn't say that, but I have to admit that purple is pretty sexy.

[gentle hound]

Will this go onto taobao?

[wise yew]

Aliexpress

[cerulean leaf]

well, the case looks quite nice, any pictures of the inside?

[cerulean leaf]

neat, properly fitted case

[pastel quarry]

is the OZONE logo on all models?

where did this come from, I haven't seen it before

[cerulean leaf]

I hope not, that would put me off so much, that I wouldn't buy it

[earnest mortar]

Yeah that certainly doesn't look good

[pastel quarry]

same here, it's the first time I've seen it with this logo

it's terrible

[earnest mortar]

I thought we were finally starting to move away from yucky logos and lettering on screen borders.

[cerulean leaf]

Guess we have to wait for the RG Cube - which might be out before the Unicorn ever hits the western market anyway

[marsh lichen]

The logo is prob from a prototype

[earnest mortar]

Yeah, but several other prototype pictures don't appear to have it, so hopefully it's not something being added.

[earnest mortar]

Is that some with like a TPU back shell on the right side?

Or a grip

[cerulean leaf]

I'm not a fan of TPU stuff, but I guess it won't drive up the cost significantly

[severe breach]

I like the TPU quite a bit

[iron wolf]

They said late April or early May and that time came and passed already.

[dire marsh]

Domestic this month, international next

[minor brook]

Is there any chance there will be a version with a wider screen? This screen with the G99 doesn't make a ton of sense to me

[dire marsh]

Nothing planned

[minor brook]

Apart from the square screen, device looks great

[cerulean leaf]

1:1 supremacy is the selling point of the Unicorn

[dire marsh]

Yeah just buy rp4 rp4p or 556 Odin want 16:9

Or wait for 406p

[minor brook]

Too big, 16:9 is too wide

[dire marsh]

#1168252795783225424 message

Would you say 3:2 or 4:3 though?

[minor brook]

406p? What device is that?

[dire marsh]

#1214317939163926548

[minor brook]

3:2, I love my KTR1 but development after the first batch has been slowwww

[dire marsh]

KT-R1 is a cool piece of tech

If only a bigger company would have released it

[minor brook]

Is there anything known besides the name? Seems rumors are wild

[dire marsh]

Max zhou said he’s trying his best to source a solid 4:3 screen iirc

[cerulean leaf]

isn't that the https://discord.com/channels/741895796315914271/1237867228985294908 RG Cube now?

[dire marsh]

So this thing won’t be released until he gets his hands on one

Cube release first because 1:1 was on sale

[dire marsh]

Nah cube is its own thing zhou released because he got the screen and doesn’t like Lao zhang

[minor brook]

I don't really know who is behind which company

[dire marsh]

But it’s also totally possible for anbernic to totally scrap any 406p and 406v idea if they can’t source the screen

Max zhou anbernic

Lao zhang zpg

[minor brook]

I wonder if there are any high res 4:3 screens. We got so many VGA devices, that resolution is just too low

Thanks a lot.

[dire marsh]

There are some I guess

But they need to be commercially available and cheap enough

The KTR1 screen for example wasn’t

Hence the high price and slow production

Obviously there are a few more factors that also contributed

[minor brook]

Main issue was manufacturing with the KTR1 screen. Everything was calculated with high yield but it wasn't, which f'ed up everything

Yeah

(un) surprisingly, a lot about making a handheld hinges on the screen

[dire marsh]

Weren’t the face buttons messed up too

And the yellow shell bled light

[minor brook]

Yeah

Blown out of proportion though. IMHO, the real problem was with the momentum lost by all the delays and extra cost caused mostly by the screen

[dire marsh]

The multitude of refunds hurt too I guess

Getting your paypal locked as a result of it must throw one off

sooo bad

[minor brook]

Oh that

Yeah lol

I agree with your earlier summary

#1168252795783225424 message

[night tusk]

agreed on that as well

I hope he can succeed, but there are just too many issues with Nil.

[minor brook]

That sounds personal almost

[gritty basin]

I had a KTR1, and it would've been a fantastic handheld if he just gave it a better d-pad and face buttons. Seriously, that's all it needed to be S-tier.

[swift lagoon]

That's the problem with a 1 man operation, it is personal

[minor brook]

I'll continue to support the project if the revamped parts ever become available

It's clearly a very polarizing device, everybody has an anecdote and an opinion about it

[swift lagoon]

I want a KT-R1 but I'm still waiting for it to be available with the revised parts.

I personally think 1 person doing everything from software to hardware design to customer support and community management is a really really bad idea, and shortsighted.

[dire marsh]

It might be better for us if max zhou steals the it r1 desgin

RG R1

[minor brook]

Money

[swift lagoon]

It's brave but very ineffective. Everything takes forever and people lose their patience with their product, no matter how well conceived it is.

[dire marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-spongebob-gif-8454828

[night tusk]

for a moment I wish Zhou hates Nil so much that he would make a KTR1 clone

[cerulean leaf]

honestly, a decent 3:2 device is something I would get in an heartbeat

[dire marsh]

Oh no

Honestly

I feel like he will

The second he sees a listing for the screen

[minor brook]

Any KTR1 clone will probably have an inferior screen, defeating most of the purpose for me

[cerulean leaf]

how "good" is the KTR1 screen anyway?

[gritty basin]

It was pretty fucking great

[swift lagoon]

The Ayaneo Micro looks like it's going to be a 3:2 device

[gleaming bobcat]

Best thing about the ktr1

[gritty basin]

Also I'm pretty sure if Anbernic made a clone, it would be missing the front-firing speakers which were amazing (after you fixed the polarity, at least)

[minor brook]

It has a unique aspect ratio and it's very high resolution. It has some light bleed and it's not OLED, so there's still room for improvement

[gritty basin]

FURTHERMORE I'm gonna get shot for this, but I liked the plastic used on the KTR1 shell more than any of Anbernics I've had

[minor brook]

Truuu...! Looks huge though overall? We shall see.

Despite its name

[night tusk]

Max Zhou said that he's able to source the KeyOne screens that KTR1s are using. He was just not interested in making a device like KTR1.

He also said whoever makes 1:1 aspect ratio devices is an idiot or a poor guy who can't source better screens. Then when he saw the release of A1 Unicon, he makes Cube, cuase he hates Lao Zhang so much.

[dire marsh]

Then what is this?

[swift lagoon]

Spite is the best motivation

[night tusk]

long time ago when he was still in KTR's QQ group & when he was still close with Nil.

he even threatened Nil that if he wanted, he could buy out all the screens so KTR would be dead.

[gleaming bobcat]

So basically we need Lao Zhang to make a KT-R1 clone and we'll get a RG-R1

[dire marsh]

Bro is a father now

Leave the man alone 😭

[gleaming bobcat]

I don't see how that is relevant

When did I knock Lao Zhang?

[dire marsh]

Lmao

[gritty basin]

he's just messing around

[gleaming bobcat]

Also even if I did, there are plenty of shitty parents out there

[dire marsh]

Okay okay

Steer back

[gleaming bobcat]

Nah Lao Zhang hates children confirmed

Thanks for leading me there

[dire marsh]

At least he doesn’t hate 1:1 screens

[mortal cobalt]

honestly I expect this to happen if the ktr1 actually manages to get its shit together

[dire marsh]

So you’re saying there a chance

[gritty basin]

if Nil doesn't just throw in the towel and say "fuck this", there's a pretty good chance he'll succeed with the next handheld.

[night tusk]

not if he still does everything by himself.

[cerulean leaf]

so that Nil guy has to enrage the Zhou guy to make an KTR1 clone, noted

[mortal cobalt]

or somebody max hates more like laozhang needs to make a ktr1 clone first

[iron wolf]

Out here talking lore for handheld retro devices including company dislikes 😂 love to see it.

[wise yew]

I am still waiting my ktr1 metal shell....

seems like everyone has forgotten that, including myself...

[iron wolf]

Is the Chinese version of the k1 better quality?

[night tusk]

I'm waiting for a metal shell as well. unfortunately, the production hasn't been started yet afaik 😭

[cerulean leaf]

can we tell lao zhang to do a 3:2 Unicorn mock-up?

[wise yew]

Maybe he is doing some research on a 3:2 ?

[gritty basin]

Some bastard was attacking your gamer skills, Rex
https://twitter.com/RowdySunstrider/status/1789291794930307583

Rowdy Sunstrider (@RowdySunstrider) on X

@Z_Pocket_Game Promotion: ”One of the best d-pads you can find in the market”.

…

Promotion: proceeds to fail inputs all over the place and displaying extremely strained efforts while doing so

Not a good look 😓 I’m not trying to sabotage or form opinion, but cmon.. you guys can do better.

Twitter · May 11, 2024, 1:49 PM

[wise yew]

haha. Indeed I am not good at fighting games

and it is just a demo. i need to play the game by watching a phone....

[gritty basin]

Yeah it's not easy to play when you have a phone recording right in front of you. I know that from experience

[pastel quarry]

git gud 😂

[gritty basin]

I've seen your driving man...

[glossy stratus]

I won’t do any shooting, but I strongly disagree 😀

The mould never felt right. There was flex, too thin, warped and bent easily and is the cause for the majority of light bleed caused in the screens.. really needed to nail and stick to metal case

[fallow pumice]

Did he ever even end up releasing the metal variant

[humble relic]

After looking at the cube d-pad placement, my thumb hurts. The A1's looks higher on the screen by a bit, this should help some.

[shell jolt]

Nil can't even release a dpad and button replacement lmao. My KTR1 has been in it's case for 6 months waiting for a control fix. The R36-level dpad and crap buttons really take the fun out of gaming for me.

[gritty basin]

I'm becoming more convinced by the day that the Unicorn is the way to go vs Cube, but I'm worried lack of availability and/or bad price is going to be the deal breaker.

[cerulean leaf]

I think both devices will have their pros and cons, quite frankly a final judgement will be made when I have them both in hand... and then I return to my RGB30

[fallow pumice]

Don't worry, kt-r2 will be the one to really knock it out of the park!!!

[gritty basin]

I'm still rooting for Nil...

[fallow pumice]

I don't expect anything but it would be really cool if he actually manages to make a kt-r2 that's a huge hit

[swift lagoon]

I don't think he can do that on his own.

I'm not sure if it's a pride thing or something, I wish he was business savvy enough to get investors and an actual team behind it.

[shell jolt]

Oh I am as well. I know he's only one guy and it's insane how much he's been able to accomplish on his own.

[dire marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/send-energy-sending-healing-dragon-ball-spirit-bomb-gif-16443313

https://tenor.com/view/2869993-hail-gif-12594371

[vernal plaza]

[humble relic]

Probably been asked a million times, any dates on when overseas units be able to be ordered and shipped?

[karmic wind]

I thot Order is in Jun and shipping in Jul?

[iron wolf]

He said international orders go up in late may and ship by mid june I thought?

He also said there won't be a preorder

[gritty basin]

Do you know if any of the consumer units have actually been assembled yet? I really hope Forthenext receives his soon so we can get some streams going
https://twitter.com/forthenextlive/status/1790264838243107191

forthenext (@forthenextlive) on X

ZPG A1 Unicorn is preparing to ship.

Source: QQ 776437496

Twitter · May 14, 2024, 6:16 AM

[cerulean leaf]

Cube will beat this and come out before it 😅

[iron wolf]

Wouldn’t surprise me

[humble relic]

Doesn't matter 😁 if this device releases with source code, I'm team unicorn.

[cerulean leaf]

Maybe Anbernic will release the source code out of spite

[mortal cobalt]

Please

[humble relic]

Spite works 😁. If they add the 556, it'll double work. Time to set troll level to 11 and see what happens.

[raven knot]

Just got my shipping notification from Ali! 😁

[mint ginkgo]

imagine unisoc suing them for that

[wise yew]

？

[queen parrot]

Well to be fair he didn't say that it was shipping in unicorn so maybe he just got a random notification laughing out loud

[dire marsh]

Blud payed $100 premium for a scalper

[wise yew]

I don't think domestic shipping starts neither

[dire marsh]

Well that shipping notification is fake 🤔

[raven knot]

Ha. Maybe it’s that scam where they send you any old crap…

[dire marsh]

Not a scam but they sometimes send notifications out too early so that you’re less likely to refund since „it’s already on the way“

The real scam is the price

[cerulean leaf]

He will get an rgb30 with red painted buttons

[wise yew]

I suggest you cancel it.....

[raven knot]

It did seem rather too soon. Oh well, PayPal protection fortunately.

[minor brook]

That's a wild take to justify supporting scalpers

[dire marsh]

But the scalper really needed the money

☝️

[wise yew]

I can be a scalper and probably charge you a littile bit less

than 347 AUD

You are not supporting me

[raven knot]

Fair point. I’ll support when I can. But this is my dream device and I just couldn’t wait.

[gritty basin]

Fuck. I was getting excited thinking it might mean Forthenext's unit is shipping soon.

[wise yew]

Did he ordered one from forwarder?

[gritty basin]

He lives somewhere in Asia so I don't know if he actually needs a forwarder

Actually that's confusing/doesn't answer your question. I guess I should say "I don't know". I know he pre-ordered along with Chinese people, though

[gritty basin]

since someone did a mock-up size comparison of the Cube vs RGB30 in the Cube channel, here's the Unicorn next to the front shell of an RGB30. No like there's any huge difference in size, but seems like it's Unicorn > Cube > RGB30

[mortal cobalt]

the cube I think is thicker than the unicorn

even though the footprint is a bit smaller

[cerulean leaf]

yes, Cube has stacked triggers after all, Unicorn is inline

being relatively flat is nicer tbh, but inline sucks for GCN games

[gritty basin]

That's a good point. iirc the Cube is 18.something mm at its thinnest, not sure if it was measured at its thickest. This guy measured the Unicorn at 18.9mm at its thinnest and 22mm at its thickest, which I imagine is thinner than the Cube's thickest.

He also touches on the d-pad being right in the middle of the height of the device, says it's very comfortable to use at that location despite generally preferring d-pad on top

[mortal cobalt]

yeah how far down the dpad is on the cube is my biggest hesistation there

the unicorn also has front firing speakers

[gritty basin]

url if anything wants to watch the vid btw
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1c14216787/
the front firing speakers is HUGE for me

[cerulean leaf]

I hope the final cube will have the d-pad as far as possible to the screen so it's still comfortable to use tbh, directly below the stick is a bit maddening even if it works out due to still being relatively high on the device

[summer river]

Yeah, I don't like how quick Zhou is to give up and call it a day with down-firing speakers on large devices like 405V or Cube.

[mortal cobalt]

the arc got front firing

and got a lot of praise for that

[severe breach]

If only it could handle Saturn better 😔

[mortal cobalt]

I'm lucky I don't care too too much for saturn and just wanted it for arcade purposes

[pastel quarry]

rg556 has down firing speakers but they actually sound pretty good

I ordered my unicorn directly from https://zpocket-game.cn/

[iron wolf]

I thought international ordering wasn’t up yet.

I see they have domestic.

Also the price is 999 not 899 like they said it would be.

[wise yew]

899 is gone because preorder was ended

[pastel quarry]

Rex, will there be notification of shipping?

20th?

[wise yew]

Yes. There will be tracking number

[wise yew]

Depends on when did you place your order

[pastel quarry]

I ordered 1st Jan

[wise yew]

Well. You are probably in the first or second batch

[pastel quarry]

great, let's see next week

[wise yew]

The first 200 units will be assembled by LaoZhang himself. it is hard to say if you are in the 200

A factory will assembly the rest Which will be very quick. This will happen in June. Then International sales will begin

[queen parrot]

Any idea if Lao will number them like he did with the snow cakes?

[wise yew]

No. This is not a diy product

[hexed summit]

No international price for this or the cube yet right?

[gritty basin]

Another pic for size reference, with the Snowflake this time
https://www.twitter.com/omochichi/status/1789394645685809540

[dire marsh]

😮

[gritty basin]

Does anyone have a pic with the Snowflake and RGB30 together?

[humble relic]

I'll be the judge of that 😁. This is also encouraging.

[queen parrot]

Snow Cake is actually the name

[gritty basin]

I don't know why I was typing snowflake. My brain just doesn't work sometimes

[minor orchid]

Did domestic shipping for this even start? I thought international was after that and was aiming for late may, didn't know where we sat on release dates now

[tacit vessel]

It's kind of DOA now with the rg cube releasing

[mortal cobalt]

I would wait for reviews before just assuming the anbernic wins

The dpad and speaker placement looks better on this one tbh

[pastel quarry]

I haven’t got shipping notice yet and I preordered Jan 1st

it’s a bit sad that Anbernic’s superior logistics and distribution might just bury this one

[tacit vessel]

We know for sure that the processor is more powerful on the cube
The only variable that could really make or break the cube would be the price and I think it would be at least equal to the zpg at least when it comes to international

[mortal cobalt]

The t820 is only slightly higher end than the g99 in practice. Unless you’re specifically buying a 1:1 handheld for ps2 rather than the intended purpose of arcade I would pick the better controls/ergo over a slightly better chip for this 100% of the time.

Basically whichever has the better dpad and better ergo for using that dpad is the one I’ll be considering

And anbernic’s dpad is so far in the Deep South I expect it to have very strong opinions on bbq sauce

Just need to know if the ergo grips on the back are anywhere near good enough to make up for that

[acoustic perch]

I mean, the chipset is legit better for 3DS than the G99, and this screen is practically perfect for 3DS games in vertical layout (like how the RGB30 was excellent for DS), so that’s one pretty big benefit for the Cube over the Unicorn.

[mortal cobalt]

I wouldn’t use either for 3ds tbh

Once you go that modern it’s odin 2 or bust for me

[hexed summit]

Perfect for 3ds is kind of stretching it, the experience is worse compared to just playing horizontal 2 screens on a larger 16:9 handheld.
DS on the rgb30 is already kind of small compared to the original NDS, the 3DS experience in this/cube would be a lot worse relatively.

[ripe estuary]

DS or 3ds would be a horrible experience on this.

[mortal cobalt]

I bet NDS is fine

other than no touch NDS looks ok on the rgb30

[ripe estuary]

Too small.

[mortal cobalt]

it's a bit small for sure

[ripe estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/zaksuhar-pat-bev-beverley-patrick-bevereley-milwaukee-bucks-gif-11959528079186740557

[mortal cobalt]

at least it's a bit small if you need both screens to be equal size

this type of setup on games that just use the bottom screen for menu stuff looks good

or vice versa for touch games

not perfect but better than using a 4:3 that can only display one at a time

but yeah I would personally say this is way more of an arcade handheld than an NDS handheld for me

[ripe estuary]

Mario kart, new super mario bros and mainline Pokémon will be good. But they are good on anything with one screen

[proper remnant]

Rgb30 playing ds

[ripe estuary]

Microsoft duo best way to play NDS

[mortal cobalt]

I like that your sticker covers the big bezel on the bottom of the rgb30 screen

[ripe estuary]

But not a handheld

[proper remnant]

It's not mine haha

But it's nice

[mortal cobalt]

honestly I just want a handheld that is capable of being a small controls + 4:3 touchscreen for NDS while simulataneously outputting the top screen video to a monitor via USB C displayport or HDMI

[proper remnant]

Rg353v

[mortal cobalt]

the RP2S but with a chip that actually supports a second screen via displayport instead of the HDMI hack that only is capable of mirroring the screen

[mortal cobalt]

can that send different video to the built in screen and a monitor?

[proper remnant]

Ah wait I didn't read everything

Lol

Don't think you can do that with android

[mortal cobalt]

I think you can do it with drastic standalone in android if you have proper usb display port out

I'll have to test with the odin 2

[ripe estuary]

Can modern android do that?

[mortal cobalt]

I'm not sure tbh

I know x86 is but I doubt I'll get a pocketable little 4:3 x86 handheld anytime soon lmao

[ripe estuary]

I have a LG v90 dual screen. I had to apply a dodgy app just to use both screens for drastic

[mortal cobalt]

I feel like the best NDS experience we're likely to ever get in handhelds is one big screen like the #1192173978530361365

[ripe estuary]

Also a huge pain to set up. If you put the phone to sell you have reapply everything

Well hopefully this releases soon in the west. Anbernic will have cubes ready in a couple of weeks I believe.

[summer river]

https://old.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1ay1yco/not_a_bad_way_to_play_ds3ds_games/

And before anyone tries it, no, 2S doesn't support it.

[mortal cobalt]

yeah, you need a chip with proper displayport out, the 2s just uses a weird little accessory chip to translate the built in screen DSI signal to HDMI

since the t610/t618 technically does not support video out

so yeah, currently RP4 might actually be the best and cheapest way to do this?

[safe ember]

What a time we live in. In the year of our lord 2024 someone has finally reinvented the Wii U.

^^not to downplay how cool that setup actually is. I just find the comparison funny.

[acoustic perch]

Nah, DS is great on the RGB30, and I genuinely don’t think 3DS could be any worse. Plus the fact it’s a square screen still means it will make a bunch of other systems look great, so this ends up being a good option for people who want an all-in-one device.

[acoustic perch]

Ok, this is also really freaking cool and I definitely will want to try it when I get home.

[ripe estuary]

Define great

[safe ember]

The mod @proper remnant showed makes games that require both screens work really nicely on the ‘30. Add a touch screen to that and 🎉

Shame about the analogue on top thing (Cube and Unicorn). I know that doesn’t bother some people but it’s a dealbreaker for me.

[ripe estuary]

No touch screen isn't great NDS

[safe ember]

Really fun.

[acoustic perch]

It plays nice and vertical actually looks good on it, and you don’t need to bring a DS or 3DS with you on a trip just to play DS games alongside whatever handheld you have, you can just bring this alone.

[acoustic perch]

Yeah, and what exactly does the RG Cube have?

[ripe estuary]

If you want all in one. I suggest something with more power and a touch screen.

[acoustic perch]

…So, the Cube.

Or the A1 Unicorn.

[ripe estuary]

Maybe. Time will tell. Would say rp4 or Odin2 for all in one handhelds

These are more niche inelside a niche

[acoustic perch]

Both of those are more expensive, and the Cube at least works well as a more powerful RGB30 with a touch screen.

[safe ember]

^^IMHO RP4 is objectively the best NDS/3DS machine right now for under $400. Unless you can find a flip screen phone on sale. Odin 2 is just a tad big to hold with 1 hand & use the touch screen.

[acoustic perch]

Oh agreed on the RP4 Pro being great if they’re fine with paying $200, I love mine, but now I’m probably just gonna start suggesting the Cube or Unicorn for people wanting vertical DS/3DS if they’re only looking to pay like $160 or less.

[safe ember]

But the cubicorn has DS vibes with the vert layout and this hobby is all about vibes.

[acoustic perch]

Exactly. With the RP4, now my suggestion is basically gonna be “either spend $50 more for the RP4 Pro, or just get the Unicorn or Cube if you specifically want 3DS and DS with a Touch Screen”.

[ripe estuary]

Of course. Why I have some many handhelds. Just not for all in one handheld

[safe ember]

My RH wishes for this year are that more companies start embracing the Retroid joysticks & adjust the bottom stick/dpad to be closer to the screens.

Even with its older chipset and lower resolution screen compared to this, the RP2S is still my all-rounder because it got both of those things right in my book.

And the RP4 does that with the better screen & chip

[ripe estuary]

Yes, small hand people don't like the chin of the rp2s. Offers so much more. Better stick placement, front speakers and just make the handheld comfortable in the hands. At lease to me

[safe ember]

If you have the RP4 and 2S, would you say using the joysticks is about as comfortable from one device to the next?

Been thinking about taking the RP4 plunge recently.

[ripe estuary]

I don't have rp4. The ghosting issue keeps me away from. I have rp3+ with upgraded rp2s/4 sticks and I like both. Rp2s is mainly a 2D gaming device for me. Getting back in topic I saw julteys said this should be available soon.

[acoustic perch]

I want more companies to source those legit perfect Analog Sliders that Retroid used in the Flip for their own Clamshells (so that we avoid having more people do what Miyoo did).

Hell, those for vertical handhelds would help make them a lot more pocketable.

[karmic wind]

I hope the DS emulator layout size can be customised to be bigger for both screen.

[safe ember]

Totally can do this. With the DraStic DS Emulator on Android devices (like this one) you can play with both screen sizes to make them positioned and sized however you like.

Your imagination and the total screen size of the device are the only limits.

[karmic wind]

What DS emulator is on the RGB30? Ty

[safe ember]

Also DraStic. But the RGB30 runs Linux not Android and the Linux build of DraStic doesn’t have the customizability as its Android counterpart.

That said you can make the screens equal size on the RGB30

[karmic wind]

I actually like the upper screen to be bigger than the lower. How do you do that in Drastic for Linus? Ty

[safe ember]

Check out the RGB30 thread and search for “drastic patch”

[severe breach]

That's exactly what my RGB30 looks like, except I changed out the D-pad

[wise yew]

Domestic shipping started today

[proper remnant]

That sounds really nice

[severe breach]

Yep, it's one from an Anbernic 353M. Works perfectly.

[gritty basin]

Is it true that the fan has been removed from the retail units? I was thinking of removing the fan if I got one anyways for some weight savings

[mortal cobalt]

Fanless would be a huge pro over the cube if it doesn’t actually need it

[fallen hinge]

A fan would only be needed if they decided to overclock the SoC (which would be pretty cool tbh)

[gritty basin]

No fan would also allow them to keep price down a bit more for the western release

[cerulean leaf]

nah, we gotta keep the freaking fan or this thing is going to burn like a phone when running GCN stuff and up

[gritty basin]

Retro Tech Dad couldn't get this chip to throttle even in a thin phone without passive cooling while maxing out on PS2 and the like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRNlo9CVbv0&t=877

[delicate parcel]

Kt r1 mentioned

[minor brook]

KTR1 mentioned => discussion derailed in 3, 2, 1, ...

[gritty basin]

This is with the TPU case on, making it look that extra bit bigger

might as well post this again too

[fallen hinge]

Gotta say, the more compact nature of the snowflake looks a little better

[night tusk]

apparently Chinese buyers have started receiving these.

pretty clean inside.

the shoulder buttons use similar or same clicky micro switches as KTR

[gritty basin]

Do you know if it's only been the white w/red buttons being received so far? I read something about issues with other colors in one baidu post, but have no idea if it's actually true.

[night tusk]

Yes. Only white units are being sent now.

[mortal cobalt]

at this rate the cube is gonna beat them to market

[summer lava]

If only this had both ds screens at a decent size - would be an instant buy for me

Verticle 3:2 screen when…

[mortal cobalt]

that would be worse

you'd need portrait 2:3

[summer lava]

Then portrait 2:3 🙂

[mortal cobalt]

if you want to go side by side you'd want at least 16:9 is not even wider

[summer lava]

Made a type

Want verticle 3:2/2:3

[mortal cobalt]

but yeah even then I'd rather go 9:16 so I could have a gap between the screens

just a #1192173978530361365 but mainstream from anbernic/powkiddy/retroid etc

[severe breach]

Damn, that's a deep D-pad

[humble relic]

The wifi header is interesting. What does that attach to?

[fallen hinge]

so they got rid of the fan?

[night tusk]

you can find the full teardown video here: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wZ421s7oq/

[fallen hinge]

ah, nevermind then there's still a fan

[gritty basin]

Yeah, that's definitely a fan

If anyone is curious as to why the fuck I thought they were maybe removing the fan, I was machine translating this thread. No clue what they're actually saying ofc
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9031002083

[gritty basin]

okay what the hell is this
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19i421S7qw/

why is the picture so fucking small

why is he doing this to me

[fallen hinge]

Tbf, the one thing this has over the cube is that it might actually be pocketable

[graceful pelican]

Tbf it also has better color options.

The cube has horrible colors. Fuck. And. No.

[fallen hinge]

That too. The G99 should(?) be good enough for 3DS anyways

[mortal cobalt]

3ds is a wide spectrum with a lot of potential tweaking

[junior shoal]

What do you guys think of the design?

[humble relic]

If the source code is released, community software updates are a huge selling point.

[humble relic]

It's pretty good. I'm more of a d-pad top fan with this aspect ratio. Other than that, looks solid.

[torpid trench]

Do you know if it is release, or is it just a general statement ?

[humble relic]

#1168252795783225424 message

[junior shoal]

The looks is definitely interesting 😄

[gritty basin]

And front firing speakers, and higher dpad positioning, etc. The Unicorn actually has a lot going in its favor, I don't think it's a wash for the Cube like some people think.

The Unicorn's biggest disadvantage likely won't be anything about the device itself, but simply lack of availability/wait times/etc compared to the Cube

[fallow pumice]

Personally I'm not really considering the cube at all but I am considering this because of the d-pad positioning and clicky buttons, so yeah

[graceful pelican]

Agreed. The cube can collect dust in someone else's collection. Looks like ass, IMHO. 😅

[fallow pumice]

Cube looks really nice imo but seems less good to use

[gritty basin]

Yeah, for whatever reason the Unicorn looks more comfortable to use to me. That's even aside from the dpad position. Not sure why.

[jaunty kestrel]

My one fear should I ever consider buying this is that like
I get it, then they announce A2

and oh lookie there now the dpad is in a normal area, FFS.

[mortal cobalt]

they both look nice but I definitely cannot afford both

[fallen hinge]

@wise yew any update on international orders? Still looking like June?

[cerulean leaf]

why not buy both?

[graceful pelican]

Cube is ugly. 😅

[junior shoal]

You guys are in for a surprise if you like how this looks 🤣🫣

[cerulean leaf]

retail Unicorn being ugly, confirmed

don't drag down the Cube now, the Unicorn ain't out next year with how things are moving

[fallen hinge]

??? I don’t get it. You know something we don’t?

[mortal cobalt]

the next datafrog/boyhomm fake rgb30 is gonna blow us all away I guess

[gritty basin]

Well if you know of someone cloning it, tell them to put the dpad up top please

[fallen hinge]

Powkiddy Super RGB30 incoming 😂

[cerulean leaf]

rCUBEs running an rk3326

[mortal cobalt]

none of the CFW will work though because it's a 45hz screen installed upside down

dpad will look good but instead of a membrane it'll just have several layers of old bandaids with phone stylus nubs glued on

[gritty basin]

Domestic buyers receiving their orders. Hope the other colors get sorted soon 🙏

[fallen hinge]

Oh yeah, did they ever end up actually sending you anything?

[raven knot]

Yes and no.
The seller cancelled the shipping, then sent a message to say they can’t get the product and that I should open a dispute because they “don’t have a refund button”.
Aliexpress wouldn’t let me dispute it because their system sees it as shipped despite the cancellation, so I need to wait 63 days and if it still hasn’t arrived I have until 90 days to open a dispute.
F that, so I went through PayPal, refund should be here in a day or so.

[fallen hinge]

Oh shit, sorry to hear that then 🫤

[raven knot]

Thanks, but it’s fine. I just need to decide whether to put that refund back into Ali with the other reseller or wait until international orders officially open. With the RG Cube seemingly close I’ll probably pick that up and wait for this.

[ionic thorn]

I wish that's what this was. I think most fans of the RGB30 would be happy with just a higher quality version of that device with materials and electronics that didn't suck. Sadly, it looks like manufacturers who are jumping on the 1:1 platform aren't really aiming for that.

[mortal cobalt]

we might get an anbernic XX of some variety using the 1:1 after the cube

[ionic thorn]

I'll keep my fingers crossed because that would be amazing.

[pastel quarry]

my unicorn shipped

I need to transfer it after it reaches my reshipper

hopefully in my hands this weekend or early next week

[wise yew]

#1154414318935363594 message

[gritty basin]

Was just about to link this! The guy just got his Unicorn if anyone has any questions for him

[fallow pumice]

I don't have access :(

[gritty basin]

https://retrocn.com/
Click the "Discord" link in the top left portion of the page

[fallow pumice]

D:

I have plenty of servers to leave lol, thanks

Is RetroCN making a metal shell for it?

[ripe estuary]

So can we order this in the west yet?

[fallen hinge]

Probably still a few weeks out from that

[fallow pumice]

I wonder if you could slap rg cube sticks into this? That device's red sticks in this device's white/red color scheme would be killer

[mortal cobalt]

just buy red switch stick covers

[potent gate]

How

I usually leave servers I’m not active in unless I’m there for notifs/announcements

[mortal cobalt]

I join the retroid discord every time there’s a rumour they’re going to do something cool then leave again when it comes out and it isn’t cool

Presently getting baited by a supposed summer release that will probably just be a dock or a minimum effort rp4 clamshell that still has the iPhone screen even though it doesn’t play nice with the d900/1100

[fallow pumice]

It's called joining random servers for like one thing and then never remembering to leave lmao

[fallow pumice]

But would they match

[graceful pelican]

That's just nuts. I get anxiety if I can scroll on my server list haha

[pastel quarry]

🦄

[pastel quarry]

https://x.com/forthenextlive/status/1796161668189184129

forthenext (@forthenextlive) on X

Z-Pocket Game A1 Unicorn has arrived.

Subscribe to my YouTube channel for livestreams: https://t.co/suTtTA3PZj

Twitter · May 30, 2024, 12:48 PM

https://youtube.com/live/EdQMdxhbWrM?feature=share live soon

[silver sentinel]

Guys, how's the d-pad?

[gritty basin]

Everyone says it kicks ass so far 🤷

[silver sentinel]

Nice

[severe breach]

On the stream right above your comment, he stated that it might even be better than the RG Arc D-pad, which to me is high praise.

[silver sentinel]

That is high praise indeed

[severe breach]

Noted that he was also using the D-pad more than the left stick

[silver sentinel]

I would gladly spend more on this over the cube based on the d-pad alone

[junior shoal]

How much are these though?

[pastel quarry]

hope you enjoyed the stream, thanks for coming by

[severe breach]

That's the price for the domestic market. Gonna be a wee bit higher outside of China, I think.

[mortal cobalt]

yeah even the non-preorder price in china is 999 not 899

I'm honestly expecting around 150

[severe breach]

Ah, wait, I didn't realize that.

[gritty basin]

Excellent stream FTN, thank you for the quick impressions! Just fyi for the Dreamcast stuff you mentioned, for shooters like Under Defeat you can enable tate mode in the game options and then enable "rotate 90 degrees" in Flycast settings to utilize the vertical space

[severe breach]

So yeah, probably right around $150.

[pastel quarry]

it's 999 now, 899 was the preorder discount

https://zpocket-game.cn/product/zpg-a1-unicorn/

[pastel quarry]

yes, I want to play this and ikaruga, they weren't full speed on the rgb30

[gritty basin]

Also for regular 4:3 Dreamcast stuff... It's a bit janky, but you can enable "super widescreen" and it'll fill the entire screen at the cost of cropping some of the sides off

[pastel quarry]

dreamcast should run perfect on this

I have the ktr1 as well so know what to expect

[gray rover]

The dpad has been improved for generations

[potent gate]

Where do I buy this dingus

[pastel quarry]

https://zpocket-game.com/ international website

[pastel quarry]

Congratulations on the launch and birth of your child

[silver sentinel]

I respect any handheld maker who can make a good d-pad

[gritty basin]

A bit depressing.

[potent gate]

Who’s gonna tell them

[marsh lichen]

who's going to tell them lol

[wintry cedar]

One thinks of similar incidents in the tech history

截胡

Also this is a ripoff of the RG cUBe!!!!

[mint ginkgo]

those are typical youtube npcs

too clocked out to know about tech, too lazy to bother learning.

[cerulean leaf]

do it, tell them they are stupid

[humble relic]

Watching the forthenext video. Microswitch short-travel ABXY buttons with soft high-travel L1/R1. Intresting.

[ionic thorn]

Just finished the whole stream. We’ve been waiting what seems like an eternity for this device. I’m still super psyched to get my hands on this thing, but man, I really wish they would have gotten it out the door sooner.

[spark current]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[olive karma]

Well I can't wait to see the showdown between this and the cube! That clear black is calling my name.

[gritty basin]

I'm with you on the clear black. I've got a bad feeling it's going to be a long time before any clear black Unicorns make it out of China, though. 😢

[olive karma]

Yeah, even if the unicorn is good, I'm betting the cube will be more readily available

A console in the hand is worth two in the rumor mill... Or something like that.

[mortal cobalt]

no dev unit yet?

[spark current]

Will likely be sent when international orders go out.

But no news on that

FWIW, even though the Cube may beat it to international market, the T820 on the Cube is too locked down at the moment. So no firmware mods can be done yet safely

The G99 is picking up steam, looks like I'll be working on it again. AYANEO are also considering sending me dev units

[mortal cobalt]

yeah, anbernic stock firmware being the only forseeable option is a fairly decent point against on the cube's part

the dpad position, front firing speakers, and (if it comes) gamma lite would be big for me on this one

[spark current]

The battery life on the G99 + Gamma Lite is diabolical

[mortal cobalt]

yeah, I'm a battery life fanatic now - the 405v lasts FOREVER

like by the time it needs a recharge its time to plug it into my laptop to load a few more games anyway

[mortal cobalt]

44 days left

[pastel quarry]

standby on the unicorn needs work

lost about 15-20% in 6 hours

[gritty basin]

standby...

... needs gamma 😎

[wise yew]

I will contact you asap when I get the dev unit

Do you have a color preference btw

[wise yew]

[gritty basin]

@pastel quarry you are now famous in China https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9035843127

[fallen hinge]

Same man, same

[olive karma]

I've noticed that too, I charge mine about once a week, it lasts forever on sleep

[pastel quarry]

I got citra mmj working with my sd card (needed the storage access apk) it is better

[karmic wind]

try the custom layout to increase the screen size.

[pastel quarry]

yep, this works and the layout is saved between games 👍

[spark current]

Black please

[queen parrot]

Yes agree it has just got better. Wind chaser 2 d pad is awesome

[pastel quarry]

https://x.com/forthenextlive/status/1796424072412504394?

forthenext (@forthenextlive) on X

I took the back cover off the ZPG Z1 Unicorn. Not brave enough to do a full teardown but here’s what the inside looks like:

Twitter · May 31, 2024, 6:10 AM

[torpid trench]

Is the fan noisy ?

[pastel quarry]

in quiet room, it kind of has a high pitched whine

if there is background noise it is not noticeable on the low or middle setting

[spark current]

@pastel quarry does drastic work for you? From the play store

I'm getting a crash on launch on the rgb30 because of the 720x720 resolution. If I change the resolution to 720x719, it loads fine

[pastel quarry]

the play store one works for me on the unicorn

[spark current]

Cool

[pastel quarry]

drastic has that brightness bug though, you touch the controls and it dims 25%

melonds standalone has a bug where the top menu doesn't show

so I am using retroarch melon ds core

I have a feeling that is what anbernic are showing off in their Cube video (with overlays)

[marsh lichen]

man, that drastic issue sucks lol

[pastel quarry]

https://youtube.com/live/oI2ttRKk-4E?feature=share

[minor brook]

Is there any chance that these new G99 devices have improved drivers that could work on the KTR1?
I know the userbase must be tiny, but GammaOS was really appreciated for it!

[spark current]

it's certainly possible. I guess there is a question of if these newer devices actually have better performance though?

[minor brook]

I'm mainly concerned about 3DS and similar platforms where there can be a lot of glitches in the emulation.

[spark current]

I know on the KT-R1, the experimental drivers I posted gave an increase of up to 10% in some cases, e.g Yuzu

[minor brook]

Yes, it was great. Similar to the RP2+ that got a similar bump via software

We will see how Yuzu, Citra, etc. run, certainly these new G99 devices will be popular.

Checking out @pastel quarry 's stream, they're testing smash 3ds rn 👀

[gray rover]

English has beed added to this UI in the future firmware. @pastel quarry

Does anyone here know what it means?

[gray rover]

Here are overlays for Citra and DraStic collected and made by our designers

[pastel quarry]

I get the dimming problem when using the dpad

[gray rover]

Yes. and RetroidPocket had the same issue before?

[safe ember]

Thank you for sharing!!

[safe ember]

Hmm I’m not as intimately familiar with drastic as some, but FPS means “frames per second” (frame rate). Whether or not FPS is shown should be an option in DraStic.

If turning FPS off fixes the dimming issue in Android 13 that’s a huge relief. That particular bug is really annoying.

[dire marsh]

@pastel quarry would be appreciated it if you could showcase custom scaling, maybe next stream or whenever u have time

[gritty basin]

To finally see these Dreamcast/Naomi shmups running well on one of these 1:1 handhelds is so beautiful 🥹

[pastel quarry]

jigg the 3ds ones are fine but I don't know how to setup nds

melonds doesn't work properly and let me edit it

[dire marsh]

melonds nightly?

thats the one I've been using

but thats one the rp4 and not on a 1:1 screen

[gritty basin]

Also not very scientific, but to my eye the analog snapping seemed noticeably better than in the brief Cube footage we got. Specifically comparing OoT 3DS footage against each other. Still Switch sticks so ofc not as nice as Retroid/Ayn sticks, but relatively an improvement all the same

[dire marsh]

but maybe melons dev will see the rg cube and maybe support 1:1

[safe ember]

How do you like MDS nightly compared to DraStic?

[dire marsh]

last time I used drastic was like 8 years ago 💀

from what I have heard MelonDS is more accurate has cleaner upsaling and retro achievement support but also is more taxing on the soc

[safe ember]

I’m guessing the D1100 handles it fine if you haven’t switched back

[dire marsh]

you only go drastic if you are on a lower end device or need a specific feature like the monitor split screen function or the preloaded cheats

[dire marsh]

yeah d1100 handles it really well

2x upscale on the lowest performance setting and no issues even when fast forwarding

[safe ember]

Love that. You use the RA core or standalone?

[marsh lichen]

Drastic still holding up really well nowadays with its compatibility

eager for it to go open source so rarch can make a core out of it

[dire marsh]

standalone of course ;))

[marsh lichen]

the melonds cores don't support upscaling whatsoever so nightly standalone

I'm in a three-way lol

Drastic -> Plays all my stuff but doesn't save like the rest
Melonds-ds core -> Plays my stuff but no upscaling
Melonds-standalone -> Has compatibility issues on the stuff I want to play but has upscaling and cheevos

[safe ember]

I do like DraStic but couldn’t get around the dimming issue on Android 13 :/. Does turning FPS off actually work?

I even found some shader packs for it that really make the colors pop! But the dimming completely reverses that effect 😱

[pastel quarry]

I’ll try it later

[marsh lichen]

been playing this lately, would prob run really good on this thing

still crazy we have a game where Phoenix Wright can team up with Kiryu and Leon Kennedy

[mortal cobalt]

at this point it just feels like any system that is 'finished' emulator wise is one I can just play in RA without fussing with separate apps per system

[severe breach]

Is Melonds standalone seeing active progress? Would that compatibility improve over time?

[marsh lichen]

last commit 2 months ago

same for last nightly build

the thing is that, the romhack I wanna play runs fine on the desktop version so idk what happened

[marsh lichen]

https://github.com/rafaelvcaetano/melonDS-android/issues/1283

[haughty pelican]

I can't believe this is a real game.

[pastel quarry]

this fixes it actually but drastic seems unstable, always crashing when going back to main menu

the brightness changes down then up but in game it is correct

[mint ginkgo]

g99 drivers

if its one thing the rg Cube has going for it, it's decent drivers from unisoc. the t820 was designed specifically for phillipean/thai gaming phones

[spark current]

Dumb suggestion, but try using adb shell "wm size 720x719"

Let me know if it still crashes then

adb shell "wm reset"
This will revert the change

[torpid trench]

For GC and PS2 in less than 1.5x resolution, do you think that G99 and T820 make a difference in actual use ? In other words, does the G99 reach the PS2/GC threshold (EU versions welcome) ? For this kind of device, I would be interrested in 4:3 and not 16:9.

[dire marsh]

for selected games only

way less consistent then the t820

there should be enough ktr1 and rg556 videos on youtube if you wanna go by specific games you wanna play

[pastel quarry]

I’m planning to do a PS2 stream so you can see, but Jigg is right, there will be a lot of games that need -1/1 for example on PS2 or a PAL rom

[pastel quarry]

I think the source of my crashes is the size of my ROMs folder

[spark current]

Ah okay

[torpid trench]

I used to stop playing video games during the PS2/GC period so I don't have a wide enough culture to aim at many specific games. For PS2, Ico and Rez are mandatory but I also want to explore. Note that I don't care about perfect emulation and I'm open to a fair amount of frameskip. I personally can play games at 30 fps no issue. No stuttering though.

[limpid ember]

The original DC version of Rez will run & look better

[pastel quarry]

the intro of Ico works fine on this device, I tried it briefly

[torpid trench]

Following @dire marsh's advice, I'tried to find games causing issues on the KTR1 and check how it was on the RG556. There is Time Splitters for instance : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1owhTScPqeI&t=1003s

(the video I wanted to post was about PS2 so no comparison... sorry for my mistake, I'll find another game).

[pastel quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/live/BVDiUesUCyA?si=USAQ3ydmd9z7yXDy you can ask me later 😅

[humble relic]

@pastel quarry have you gotten used to the buttons/dpad/ and shoulders? My preference are controls that are hyper responsive. Specifically, with the shoulder buttons, I'm not sure if this handheld would be described as having responsive controls.

[pastel quarry]

face buttons yes, they are very responsive with little to no pre-travel before activating

[pastel quarry]

triggers have a spring in them I don’t think they fit your requirements

without some kind of mod, the triggers have quite a bit of pre-travel

what’s your favourite handheld/controller with these attributes?

[humble relic]

The trim UI smart pro and RG35xxSP are ones I like. The RG556's dpad slightly misses the mark.

The lower dpad pivot on the RG556 makes it fell less responsive to me.

[pastel quarry]

I think only the face buttons of the unicorn fit your criteria of being hyper responsive

It’s D-Pad is a (good) membrane type, not dome switches.

I thought the RG556 d-pad was okay but I didn’t like the slick surface of it.

RG Cube probably has controls similar the RG556 but I’ll find out when I get it.

[humble relic]

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the 556 didn't feel right when going from left to right to left to right. The pivot was off for me. The smoothness was weird.

[minor brook]

So time splitters would be an example of a game that runs better on the t820 than the g99?

[torpid trench]

No. I found 2 videos but one for GC and one for PS2 so no comparisons ; my mistake ; applogies. I'll dig into https://youtube.com/@bigretrostudio?si=GPmyPm1JNuIqXVCq numerous and mostly well indexed videos to get an idea.

On paper the G99 lags a bit behing but it doesn’t matter if is doesn’t translate in actual emulation.

[mortal cobalt]

I haven’t really heard of people having to resort to pal roms on the 556

But obviously that’s not hard data, I don’t have a g99 or t820 myself yet

[mint ginkgo]

you don't -need- pal roms on the t820 more than you need GU affinity(and possibly no gpu drawbacks set in HDM), which is easy to set in the pcsx2/aethersx2/nethersx2 options

the t820 has the same exact cpu config as the snapdragon 860, but a gpu that's something like 33% weaker, so limiting the VS and EE to what the graphics unit can do helps a lot. the g99's gpu is almost 50% weaker than the t820's, so it needs that even -more-.

the nitty gritty:
https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/unisoc-t820-vs-mediatek-helio-g99

ultimately, it's up to the gamer if this is performant, ergonomic, aesthetic enough though. people will deal with a world of BS for a pretty/comfy handheld(just look at the RP Flip)

[pastel quarry]

ps2 used 66% battery in 3 hours 10 min, high perf mode

[mortal cobalt]

Not bad

[pastel quarry]

where are these settings in nether?

[mint ginkgo]

affinity is beneath the EE skip dropdowns.

[pastel quarry]

do you mean VU affinity?

VU > EE > GS

[mint ginkgo]

GS first

lol i combined GS and VU

[pastel quarry]

yes I was confused, lol

[mint ginkgo]

graphics system affinity

[pastel quarry]

and the other one, gpu drawbacks, couldn't find this

[mint ginkgo]

should be in the graphics options.

speeds up shading, but can induce some weirdness like the sunsprite shining through opjects

[pastel quarry]

direct link to Ico: https://www.youtube.com/live/BVDiUesUCyA?t=6708s

[minor brook]

Quality content.

[earnest lagoon]

Perfect just Perfect

[marsh lichen]

Not bad

That's not bad at all

[gritty basin]

Racing games are always the best part of the streams

[earnest lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/singingcar-singing-man-car-crash-carcrash-gif-21617496

Same energy @pastel quarry 😭😭

[torpid trench]

Thanks for Ico. And good you have put timestamps.

[mint ginkgo]

this is what happens when you can't see shit on a tiny screen due to smashed-together pixels and low depth perception

[fallen hinge]

Kinda ridiculous that the Cube is going to beat this to the market despite being revealed 8 months ago

[wet valve]

Anbernic stays winning 👑

[fallow pumice]

Anbernic stays actually capable of releasing products

[gritty basin]

The Unicorn looks like the better product to me, but that really matters for fuck all if I can't get one 🤷

[cerulean leaf]

overall it probably has less issues, but damn, no point if I can't get one at all
also the price is probably gonna be higher, despite it having the weaker chipset and the inline triggers aren't exactly ideal for GCN/PS2 either

[fallow pumice]

I'm more interested in the unicorn entirely because of the d-pad position and the clicky buttons. Cube looks alright but it's definitely something I would never use. I already know I'd rarely use the unicorn I don't need something I'd use even less!

[severe breach]

Inline triggers shouldn't really be much of an issue for GCN. The Z button was kinda weak as a trigger, and it was only on one side

[cerulean leaf]

I can't imagine any of the triggers being proper analogue ones while being inline? That's the issue tbh, if they are, complaints revoked

[severe breach]

I don't think any of them are analogue at all. IIRC they're all clicky microswitches.

[cerulean leaf]

and that is the issue, you need analogue triggers for a lot of GCN/PS2 games

[severe breach]

Ahhhh, right

GCN has that weird analogue/digital trigger thing

[next oak]

GameCube triggers are amazing

[potent gate]

I didn’t think ps2 had analog triggers

Thought that was a PS3 thing

[cerulean leaf]

pretty sure PS2 had them

probably even PS1?

not sure anymore

[jolly wasp]

imagine gran turismo without analog triggers

[cerulean leaf]

but GCN definitely had

[mortal cobalt]

ps2 had analog BUTTONS

the ps1 did not have analog triggers. Some racing games would let you use an analog stick for gas/brake by pushing it forward/back lol

[cerulean leaf]

never played any PS1 racing games so

[mortal cobalt]

yeah I mostly stuck to n64 for my racing games in that era (which also did not have analog triggers)

[severe breach]

Yeah the PS2 racing game I played the most was GT3 and I remember that I had to squish the X button

[marsh lichen]

started on the ps1 lol

nvm quick checked, they were digital triggers

[potent gate]

I knew ps1 was digital lol

[mortal cobalt]

Then they overcorrected on ps2 with analog face buttons

[marsh lichen]

that was the funniest thing

[severe breach]

The only game I can think of that really made use of it was Mad Maestro

And of course GT3 (and probably GT4). But Mad Maestro made a thing of it.

[fallow pumice]

Yeah the ps2 definitely didn't have analogue triggers, I distinctly remember them retrofitting the controller design to have analogue triggers for the ps3 and it felt kinda weird lol

[next oak]

I remember as a kid thinking that pressing the face buttons harder had an effect sometimes but then I would remind myself that that wasn't possible. Was it really analog? 😅

[marsh lichen]

Yeah it was analog

[mortal cobalt]

very few games used that

(luckily or emulating ps2 would be a nightmare)

[fallow pumice]

I remember mgs2 using it and it made shooting a bit of a pain in the bootyhole lol

[cinder shoal]

Shooting with face buttons

Ooof

(I know, I know, previous consoles didn't treat shoulder buttons as triggers, but I'm glad we're past that)

[cerulean leaf]

let me tell you the tale of the game journalists that were appalled by an PS1 game that used both sticks for movement in an ego shooter

[cinder shoal]

Yeah, I know that story 😄

There are even some games that tried to implement that on Genesis (Skeleton Krew, Battletech) and SNES (Smash TV IIRC)

[gritty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWuEd-CTRJ0

[woeful steppe]

Never thought imma say this but seems like the rg cube is a better deal for me

[cerulean leaf]

it probably is for many, given it will be easier available and probably a bit cheaper too, while having more power

still want an Unicorn, but it lost quite a bit of it's appeal by being late to the party

[woeful steppe]

Unicorn probably will have gamma support tho so there's that

We all know how trash anbernic software is

[cerulean leaf]

wouldn't be too sure about that

Gamma is supposed to get a dev unit

but if this is dead on arrival, I doubt he will spend too much time on it

[woeful steppe]

Wait he still hasn't gotten one?

Man i been away too long

[cerulean leaf]

I'm not sure if he has one yet, last thing I have seen about this was someone asking him which color he wants

but I was out cold for over a week, so I haven't following whatever has been going on on discord closely

[dire marsh]

If it’s not as messy as the KTR1 maybe

[woeful steppe]

[cerulean leaf]

ktr1 has been a mess all around, which is a shame

[graceful pelican]

poor KTR1, the device no one mentions unless they talk about how not to do something, or to compare it with what's wrong with another device lol

[dire marsh]

Shigarui does

[gritty basin]

It's a shame because the device itself would be really good if it just had better dpad and facebuttons

[pastel quarry]

there's a plan for them to be upgraded, if they are the same as the zpg buttons (microswitches) then it'll be quite good

the plan sounds good, got to see about the execution

[dire marsh]

wdym microswitches

who had the idea to bring mouse clicks to retro handhelds in the first place 😤

[cerulean leaf]

I wouldn't be mad to see only micro switches on retro handhelds from now on just to see Jigg go ballistic over it

[pastel quarry]

I mean, it's better than what the ktr1 has now

I prefer membranes still

[gritty basin]

I was under the impression the microswitch Unicorn buttons have grown on you a lot, at least

[pastel quarry]

I got used to the microswitches on Unicorn, they no longer feel odd

yes, quite good for the combo input on Tekken

[dire marsh]

Or dome switches

[dire marsh]

I hope the face buttons on your next device will be swapped out for a touchpad from 2007

[mortal cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[fallow pumice]

Microswitch buttons woooooooo

I mean I'd prefer dome switches a la the Vita buttons, but I'll take anything that's clicky as long as it's not like hard to press

[severe breach]

Vita buttons are absolute peak 🤌

At least as far as tactility goes

[gritty basin]

Yup, I love clicky dome. Especially on the Vita. I'm pretty interested in trying these clicky microswitch buttons since they sound somewhat similar and I've never used any before

[severe breach]

I had the first Razer Xbox 360 controller back in the day that has microswitches for buttons and it was my favorite part. Controller was not reliable at all though. There was always something wrong with the sticks. Loved the buttons tho.

[gritty basin]

Nice. I have a feeling I'm gonna like these buttons then.

[spark current]

Still waiting for one. My RG Cube will be here on Friday

[gritty basin]

Does Anbernic not understand you can't do anything with these t820 handhelds until they give you what you need for an unbricker?

[spark current]

I don't think they expected anything with the 405 either

But yeah they know

[fallen hinge]

They have been really shitty with communication overall. At the very least they should’ve put a time range for international orders to keep interest high

[gritty basin]

Unicorn isn't even being mistaken for a Cube clone anymore, it's straight up just fading out of existence.

[earnest lagoon]

Nah this is peak

Even not included

[ionic thorn]

I'm still gonna grab one. I'm gonna grab a Cube too, but I've been eyeballing the Unicorn for too long now to not pick one up.

[gritty basin]

I might seriously just cave and order a Cube to hold me over while I wait for a transparent black Unicorn.

[ionic thorn]

The cycle of releasing extremely soon after announcing just works in this hobby. I don't know what advantage any company in this space, large or small, has showing off what they're working on when there's still 6+ months before actual release. If anything, you run the risk of someone coming in and stealing your thunder, a la RG Cube.

[pastel quarry]

comment on my channel:

[graceful pelican]

Don't do it! We are all holding out for the transparent black Unicorn!

[acoustic perch]

https://tenor.com/view/doitdoit-gif-27670853

(Don’t actually, it’s a very bad idea to buy 2 different handhelds with the literal exact same use-case and niche unless you’re planning on selling one of them to keep the other that you prefer, just wanted to use the gif)

[severe breach]

I'm thinking I'm getting the transparent purple Unicorn and the shiny purple Cube and I'm gonna give one to my wife. Or just sell whichever one I don't use that much.

[mint ginkgo]

nah. gamma already threw in the towel

g99 sources are a mess even without niluanxy making them worse, so he's simply not interested.

[minor brook]

You have no idea what you're talking about

[spark current]

https://tenor.com/view/kobe-not-satisfied-jobs-finished-gif-18340629

[humble relic]

Totally agree. The trim ui smart pro and RG35xxsp have shown that devices.that are similar to microswitches can have good controls. The razor wolverine V2 dpad needs to be cloned on a handheld. Concave, microswitch dpads are the way.

[mortal cobalt]

Anbernic priced their clone significantly higher than this is gonna be from the looks of it

[cerulean leaf]

you really think this is going to be much cheaper?

so far we only know the domestic price

gotta be $149 international for sure, so $10-20 less

[wise yew]

[cerulean leaf]

you know something? 👀

[wise yew]

[severe breach]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[cerulean leaf]

he knows it's going to be more expensive than the rg CUBE

nah honestly, if it is cheaper than expected that would be great

kicking the t618 devices from the 100-something bucks space would make it a lot more competitive

[earnest lagoon]

P.S. He crashed into the corner again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fallen hinge]

International orders when

[ionic thorn]

Those devices need a severe cost adjustment to make them intriguing again.

[urban plover]

A1 Unicorn Soon™

Please

[junior shoal]

purple looks good 😮

[pastel quarry]

it’s my channel colour 💗

[gritty basin]

This is the second person today I've seen confusing the Unicorn and Cube. 😭 I swear, there's a large population of people that are straight up faceblind, but for handhelds instead of faces. So handheldblind I guess.

[haughty pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[junior shoal]

Is this an RG Cube?

[haughty pelican]

Does it have LEDs?

[junior shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[severe breach]

They're honestly pretty easy to tell apart ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[summer river]

I mistake the Wing and Unicorn sometimes.

[graceful pelican]

The unicorn seems to have a slightly higher dpad. That is enough for me

Like it's centered on that side. Not at the bottom

[quick gorge]

we will have the cube+ before the unicorn releases

[graceful pelican]

That's fine, I don't need to buy every device that releases

With their gimmick 10 dollars off for the first 48 hours

[next oak]

Yeah all of their devices go for way cheaper on AliExpress after like 1 month. No need to FOMO, 35XXH is $43 with free shipping!

[graceful pelican]

You get faster shipping going through Ali anyway lol

Or at least goes out faster through Ali, actual shipping time is probably the same

[pastel quarry]

some shots of the unicorn were posted on twitter https://twitter.com/Z_Pocket_Game/status/1799207279931363544

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2024, 10:30 PM