#AYN Odin 2
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Yea I'm sorry I need to buy 4 now
A shame it's so hard to get OLED screens in this size of there was a more expensive option for one I'd likely take it
We thought just over 7000mah lol. This is great
Which of these shipping methods is cheaper? I'm seriously considering getting this if I can snag it at the 300usd price point, and if I can save a bit with shipping I'll do just that
You only get DHL as an option for Canada, just confirmed with them
So that means whatever their shipping cost + another $40 in DHL fees
4px would have not had that $40 fee, but it's not an option apparently.
Right. Let's say I can get it shipped to either US, Brazil or China. Would shipping to China be way cheaper than the others?
Yes.
This truly is the endgame
Based on the digital clock there, I think this was filmed today
It was either 08-17 or 08-11
These are filmed in August
August
There's been a bunch of Augusts you'll have to be more precise
The eighth month
š
more glamour shots of the prototype
You know at least they took the Odin logo off the front so that I don't have to listen to everyone complaining about it
it does look nice, only thing (if I had to say one) is that I wish the screen bezel was smaller
it's hidden well in these photos with the black model
Oh yeah Iām ready
it looks quite chunky
Joey said if your rich please donāt vote š
lol - the amount of votes for DHL is mind boggling
and they say we're in a recession? pfft
They want their console in 5 days or less than 14 to 30+ š
I just asked Nicole about maybe adding a IGG Add-on Perk to the checkout to specify if the buyer wants to use 4px or DHL. Not sure if it will make it too complicated or not for them.
That would be awesome because right now it may be the difference between a purchase or not.
Looks like a 60/40 split too with the vote, so may be worth it for them to do.
Itās 11:30pm for them so I wonāt get a response until tomorrow
Great photos.
That black sand stuff is a cool background.
Wonder why they have no LEDs on photo.
Can anyone translate?
4px gang
Yeah 4px rules 
Took 4px only 6 days for my RP flip to get to me from shipping , UK. And best bit , no tax!!
DHL taxed me out the ass last time
Those grips look great.
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no, its god of war 2
can't have a emulation handheld test without a GoW game
2556x1792...is that 4 times resolution?
oh it changes when it moves to the ship. 2048x1792.
They play a few games on there
That last game on that video. I really should try to play Champions return to arms. I heard good things about that ps2 game.
Ok, AyN this is your time to become the best. Don't mess it up
They have to have learned something by now right?
They absolutely have. Prototype shown off, gameplay video, mold done, boards done all before IGG even launches. This is very different to how things were before the Odin IGG went live.
I've been insanely skeptical of Ayn, but they're doing everything right at the moment
Fully working, sleek prototype, pretty decent transparency, killer price (at least early bird)
Yeah that design, specs and battery look amazing
Just want to know the screen resolution
Yeah 6 inch screen
rich Canadians seem to have won the poll - you've disappointed me today Canadians
Feel like in this scenario Kobe is Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo.
First guy Idk shit about is Anbernic.
Second guy is Retroid.
Kanye is AYN.
Lol.
It fits.
Third time is the charm I hope.
Still hesitant, but it's promising
Very promising. Not that I'm expecting issue free. But looks way ahead of Loki / Odin stuff.
I also get just happy when I see companies I enjoy products from figure stuff out. Hope they execute with excellence.
I am surprised by the results of all three, I didnāt think DHL would of won by a landslide
It quite literally makes no sense to me
People will pay more to get things faster
it's almost 20% more, that's just insanity
A Canadian who bought a $800 Loki only paid $36 in import fees
It seems that they are under valuing them
At least you got a vote š¢
but, people who bought the Odin Lite's were charged that same amount
something doesn't make sense there
Initially when they first started shipping Odins they under valued them and DHL caused a huge shit storm requiring purchasers to provide their receipt and then they were adjusting the import tax to the correct value, so Ayn started putting the actual retail price + shipping per DHLs guidelines.
But with Loki itās slipping by now
If they will only use dhl for the odin 2 thatās a dealbreaker for me
that's what i'm trying to change
we're being outvoted 2:1 on their server, by I have literally no idea who
I donāt think Iām on that server
But dhl is gonna be a dealbreaker for most Europeans too
it's 4px for them
They already are using 4px
the right way
capitan is seeing if we might get an option to choose between the two as Canadians, so we'll see
Somehow I doubt it
anyone else expecting the "299" price to just be like just for early bird and the actual price is like 500
because thats the vibe im getting from this
it'll be like first 50-100
yeah
i'm also curious how many people are going for the base version, i think most want that switch emulation
prolly
They've confirmed it is the early bird price as for the actual price somewhere it said the early bird discount was $40 but I don't know if that was the case or something fake. Im guessing the IGG regular price will be $350~
So guys I decided that 299 for android 13 and 8gen2 is too sexy
For not to pre order
What could be the ācatchā
You've got to be there quick to get the early bird perk
Battery shit?
8000mAh so no it's not shit lol
Fuckā¦. Maybe ā¦
Yeah at this point the catch isn't in the specs because we know all the specs
Ok then maybe is likeā¦. Only 50 first devices are 299 and then the next tier is 350 ?
We know the cost is early bird and going by other early bird discounts something like first 100 is likely, I think a lot of people are going to be mad as if that wasn't expected
Maybe. The Odin IGG had the first 100 in the super early bird tier
Decide if $350 is worth it, if you get the early bird price count yourself lucky if they price it higher than $350 then we can shit on them for being misleading
339 is what the math would be according to the IGG page
Misleading?
If the IGG price outside of early bird were $399 I think a difference of over a $100 dollars would leave people with a bad taste in their mouth
AYN is up front that it limited price. I say the YouTubers and Reddit scum is doing all the misleading.
@celest dragon It may do but its not misleading
It would be misleading because the page says the discount is up to $40 off
When did you move to CanaAusLand in the republic of Southeast Asia?
Oh if they make it 100 dollars more at retail? Retail after IGG might go up. IGG isn't granteed.
Retail they can make it a hundred more but for IGG the price being that high would be misleading
I always been there.
Vote skewer
Oh I was just helping the popular vote. Vote for the winners
If you ban Jay his votes will disappear š
This is what the page says so to make the discount greater than $40 would definitely be sus
Just link me to it and I will pull votes.
It's so heavily skewed in DHLs favour that it wouldn't make a difference lol
Like, it's not even close
I looked and couldn't find the vointing on that discord
He definitely found the DHL button
Ok here you go Joey
thanks Jay
Now Joey has to a shill more anbernics to get that referral anbercash
I'd love to shill Odin's if they wouldn't charge me 20% to ship to me, lol
(and if it's good)
You can't tell Retroid and AYN aren't the same.
Asus already owes you big bucks
Right? Not a dime for any of that
Too busy paying ETAPrime
Shoot, I would too
instant positive review for anything you send
send a banana, "this banana is an emulation beast!"
I mean they both are using these one off joysticks, they donāt hide it well
not that I care
Iām am surprised they are keying the abxy buttons different
those button on the retroid flip are nice.
Anyone have a preorder link for the Odin 2?
Waaaait, I checked the pinned messages all good
400 Dlls would be too much in my opinion š¦
Android based handheld more than 300 is already a stretch
Whatās the spec differences between the different models?
More ram and storage
I decided to let faith decide if I get the Odin 2 guys⦠if I get āselectedā for that $40 Dlls off. Iāll get it
If not, Iāll just wait the couple of years
I'm just gonna plop down whatever for the 12/256 and call it a day. It'll get here when it gets here.
@woeful heath maybe you can ask for the opposite lol
Canadian update: if you want 4px, contact them after ordering and they'll change it.
Rejoice, Canadians with good financial sense, we have won today.
Victories were had
Appreciate the support, Capitan
So you pay more and then get a partial refund to change to 4PX?
They seem to state that DHL is cheaper to some countries
Iāll just wait for this to be actually out
Seems like too many ???s on top of ordering an unreviewed device to save $40
I'd be wary too if the last handheld I bought was the rgb10 lol
Honestly I like the max 3 other than the things I already knew werenāt fixed yet (because I also own an OGU lol)
Yeah⦠DHL on Canada itās crazy. I mean is fast for sure but is $40 Dlls extra and then $30 Dlls of extra tax for the device
$70 in total ⦠but yeah i got it in like 3 days , compared to 4px that could be 2 weeks, but could be 2 months lol
Always been two weeks for me, but yeah. Glad we get the option now for whatever people want, DHL only was a bad choice.
totally real prototype posted in the AYN server
WHAT !!!!!
looking good
$100 markup for 4gb extra ram
12 is $439
Early brid lmao
You need to go back to math class
pretty common sales tactics really
It is quite a hard decision for that extra 4gb ram
retail pricing
ok i was right about
500 š just the retail max price
Black only for the base model lmao
are you really gonna preorder?
low price to get you in the door, but it doesn't have the proper colors or RAM and ehhhhh it's not that much more, right? that's what they want you to think
yeah that sucks
yeah that extra ram is prob not worth it unless you absolutely have to play the few switch games that need it
the top model mostly exists for whales and to make the medium one look like a better deal
Except it is that much more
4gb extra ram, 256gb extra storage and case +screen protector. $80 more
the pocket air now makes somewhat more sense now
At this price breakdown the base model is the clear winner imo
your did it ayn you made the pocket air make sense
I might buy the base model once the device is actually out
lol, I wouldn't go that far
299 (minimum) for d1200 is a bad deal even compared to the highest spec odin 2 at retail pricing
dicking around mostly

at this price for non-black I think I will skip this one. at least for now
I'll still try and snatch up that early brid price, black looks more than nice enough
i was skipping it in general ngl
i cannot afford any of these š
i like just talkin abt these
I absolutely should not buy this at all but I wanna lmao
Iād rather spend $40 than loan them money for 9 months and not get the benefit of reviews
So I may or may not buy one, but itāll be at retail and itāll be the base model
That's completely fair. I'm just like "might as well put the money down now and not have to worry about it" though who knows
I guess Iām not the kinda early ābridā theyāre looking for
So getting $369 for the 12/256 is not bad
but I don't want to preorder anymore from AYN
Wait what did she say "win early bird" š
I am just happy the higher end models have a discount also
I can definitely see the argument for getting a 16/512 one of these and being done if you donāt care about pocketable cheaper handhelds and also donāt want an x86 handheld
Itāll do everything you realistically could hope for in a retro handheld atm in one device
Do you need to register for indiegogo to get stuff from there?
I just did some Switch emulation on my Fold5 today which has the same chip. This will be more than enough for many!
Upscale PS2 with great battery life. I am all in
Yeah, this device I think is where hardware has caught up to (android) software dev
The devices you canāt emulate on this thing would be stuff that does not have android emulators available
340 retail donāt sound horrible
So good
That shit handheld the G cloud is only 40 dollars less
Find me a phone with these specs?
For that price.
I'll go 12 now
I like black anyway so...
And 128gb feels so limiting, especially with android scoped storage
Huh
Most of the scoped stuff has been fixed
Okay. What is the catch now. This has been too good to be true so far.
Iād go 12 if I were I preordering but at retail the 8 is the sweet spot
True, but for $60 more, 4gb and 128gb seems decent
$339 - $439 - $499 retail
Preorder date I'm guessing, not release
yea theyre talking IGG release
That...isn't bad
Yep, just making sure
it's square within "just get a deck" territory
Hope I don't have to wake up at 2am for this
and with the lackluster external controller support....
Oh wait that's preorder difference
it stings
Android sucks with external controllers.
$100 difference at retail š
Not something ayn can deal with.
What's wrong with external controllers?
yes they can
I use an Xbox controller all the time
I'm assuming he is talking about multiple?
I am sure we all know that
Damn I guessed $449 for the middle tier
constantly having to remap when going between internal and external controls, multiple controller support...
Anyway, Steam Deck won't last nearly is long battery wise.
nobody was expecting this to be cheaper than a Deck
Deck is being subsidized. It's great and a giant outlier.
I think everyone should wait until reviews are out tho
For sure. I expect Russ to have one soon enough
Don't buy
Too late
lol don't buy? Why not?
Ayn has never denied refunds, your better locking in a good price and canceling later if thats what you want to do
I cancelled a pro during the campaign as I wanted to get a lite at retail.
No issues
Not giving up early bird pricing so ETA can just tell me it's an emulation beast
Nicole set him an email about his AYA Odin mess up, I wonder if he is going to fix it finally
incredible
Wonder if the sweet spot will be middle tier or base. Top end seems a bit pointless
LOL he did
That was actually him in that screenshot?
Just watch a RM8 video to see what it does
Btw what is with the $40 win on Indiegogo?
Yea it was real
for that price? yea lol
is nicole hot
One of his lackies must have screwed up lol
there'll be a (highly limited) spot for an extra $40 off the IGG pricing
i think
which, if that is how it works
A Youtube video a day will do it to ya
that's what, $259 for the base?
Tell Nicole if she wants a proper review... I got the time 
Nicole is being vague but it sounds like there's some kind of discount beyond that chart? but it's not clear
No reason not to have a top end if you can source the parts as it is a margin champ. I'll go base or 12GB. Depends on how frisky I'm feeling.
It almost seems like a giveaway
It's a gacha
people are really reading way too much into word choices by people that aren't native English speakers
They did that with the Lokiās
it's going to be the first X like every other IGG campaign
SSS+ Tier discount ($40)
So more email- more chances
5 star 40$ discount
Ok thought it was for Indiegogo itself
I think I was super early on the teaser page signup.
lol
you get an Odin logo sticker that you can put right where it was on the Odin 1
Special perk is next day shipping /s
andy himself will put his fingerprint on your sd card slot
I wonder if it will have light mode, like s23
-10% performance 40% battery life
oh power saving
Not really necessary due to 8000mah
We call that the Corolla mode
8000mah, darn near Nokia battery life.
Totally necessary even with 8000mAh
Yup. My camping system. 4 days without power and i'll play it around the campfire.
Any videos on 12gb vs 16gb for emulation?
I don't think they exist for android right? Especially with this horsepower. It'll be limited by the emulators themselves.
Or at least what switch games use 12gb+
I'm typing on a Gen 2 12gb
Does the Gen2 come in 16GB in anything else?
Okay what games you tried that you feel more ram is need?
No clue and I have a Switch, Switch emulation is just a trap
And switch 2 is technically coming out...
Eh next year
I personally wouldn't buy any android device for Switch emulation, but just me
$299 early bird price unlimited quantity confirmed
Wtf? Base only? I'd understand black only but for all?
I got it! They're using steam deck screens.
it doesnt feel limiting. it is limiting. Im hating my odin right now coz i ran out of storage of my 128 model
No sd card?
Upscaled PS2 and killer battery life. Was what I been waiting for. Sure I could get a deck at this price also. But at 800p and horrible battery. Plus I donāt play New games
Yeah this fits my needs as well
so who is buying 16/512
the whales.
Can just stream it instead, especially with gpu
Likely going base or 12gb
$75 for 3 years
I would have to get a PC for gaming
not keen to try out cassia/winlator at later date
rumor has it it will need 16gb
Nah, zero interest
No gamepass?
I donāt have that either
Oneplus Ace 2 pro. Around 411 USD start for 12/256 i think
Announced yesterday lol
So that might be the catch. We'll start to see some devices with this chip coming within the next six months, but this is cheap enough that I doubt you get burned in anyway.
Everything Aya has announced is really testing the "if it's too good to be true...
I'm there with ya. But it's all been good stuff eventually.
Also, the input lag stuff, if that's been fixed.
Nicole really needs to announce some bad news to restore equilibrium
One Plus Ace 2 Pro has a max of TWENTY-FOUR GB of ram.
That phone came out yesterday. Canāt buy it at all
Really didn't have bleeding edge Odin 2 on my bingo card.
Cheapest I found it is 470 at a shady looking site. For the Oneplus. Everwhere else itās 500 plus
Say if it goes pear shaped, will it be easy to get a refund? With debit card?
So can't really lose
People use debit cards?
Don't have credit card
Scary, no protection there
They've been late. Never failed to deliver a seemingly well-appreciated product eventually.
Cancelling is easy, but it's if anything else goes wrong you have no protection with debit cards
And that's with any ordering online with debit
Just a risk you take
Yeah, I don't think it's possible for me to get one by next week, but I'll try
i really dont know if i want to buy 16gb or 12gb variant.................
i dont need 16gb, but i would like to try cassia and strato when its out.............
I think a big part of it is whether you need the carrying case and screen protector cuz if you buy those separately with the 12 GB and then add the cost of the storage difference they're very close to the same price
oh i was gonna use an existing switch lite case, and i got a few odin 1 screen protector spares
so it wasnt a concern
it was legit do i need the 16gb ram
for the other stuff
At this price I might just say "fuck it" and swing for 16. 12 is what I was eyeing, but if early bird is unlimited as she stated (doubt) then why not. I'll never need another android handheld.
I would go for 12 GB if I was you
12 GB saves the most money compared to retail, it's $40 versus $70 versus $50
449 is just a little too much
coz they will need to ship via DHL and that adds another 40 or so usd to the cost
if it was 449 incl the dhl i'd be all on board
You in Canada?
NZ
Ah
but but potential cassia/switch in future
sure i will have a swtich 2 by then, but i like the option to LOL
i also have a 7900xtx coming
FML
I mean I'm not sure I would buy the 16GB model just for cassia, we don't know how that's going to shake out and how long it'll take to be in a stable position. I would buy the device for what it can do now and 12 GB is fine for switch. By the time Windows emulation is mature we will be looking at an Odin 3 or something even better
is 12 actually ok
i know 8 is not that great.
@opal pawn what you think? your endgame device prices
12 is great
It should play most games at full frame rate, I can't say that with 100% confidence because I haven't personally tested it but it's what I've heard
tbh i dunno why i care so much about switch. i have 3 switches
granted none of them are with me
(all loaned out)
Hopefully one is chipped.
2 of them are. Switch v1, Oled Switch.
So QQ got a preorder launch date of the 22nd, IGG may be the same
The OC makes the games run so much better
indeed
Email signup
the special perk is 299
is it safe? i did it to see what it can do
Hoping it applies to any sku, but if it's $299 only, I'm going that route
8/128 is so limiting
I donāt think the SOCs are costing that much anymore
(to me)
Yeah, I won't be using for Switch so doesn't affect me here
It's the last price we had hard data on. But you are def correct, easily half that for these prices to make sense
my odin 1 is 8/128 and i only got 24gb internal space left (due to android games)
Oh she confirmed it applies to other specs, that coupon
can you not put android games on SD card?
I just use an SD card
You really can't beat a $260 Odin 2 you can just use it as primarily a PS2 and under device and it will slay everything
only if you do scooped storage. which i dont, as i like my SD card to be portable storage
With phones coming out with this SOC for cheap also. I think they lowered the price. But who knows for sure
The OC is just let the chips to run into how a smart phone use a chip.
Nintendo limit too much on the chips , that's what I read from some article. But I think noone can confirm if it is safe
If I get a coupon I am going for 8 all the way
It applies to all skus, still going 8?
It will get your switch a lot hotter also
the X1 Tegra they have in the switch can nearly drive at this point it's so old. Amazing what they've squeezed out of it honestly.
If all I will go 16
$409, hm
watch it be 25 people
I know vita soc was actually underclocked for better batt life. so OC it only brings it back to normal.
not sure if same for nintendo
same. $40 off then add the $40 for shipping, is the endgame i wanna pay anyways
I still have my Loki money I never used. Because AYN pissed me off being quite about it
the money goes back to ayn 
Are we going to be stuck using a frozen copy of aethersx2 3668 in 2025 when this actually ships?
Oh I know. But it just been sitting in my handheld account
Other people are taking over PS2 from what I read
Brace yourselves, God Of War test videos are coming
What about NetherSX2?
already out
You missed it already!
no performance increase
Lol no I mean with every new version
all nethersx2 is adless latest alpha
I want Dark Cloud 1/2 to work correctly.
hmmm best mod. Use metal backplate, apply thermal paste on the backplate too. Oc the chip. viola
That was the confusing part. It changed in the video depending on location so it was probably render.
1080p 60hz 6in
Havenāt heard of it, is that the Nick cage movie where he sells the guns?
Great, thank you
Should be able to run pretty much every PS2 GameCube and Wii game in 3x resolution and take advantage of the 1080p
The USA gave that guy back to Russia for a basketball player.
Does widescreen hacks affect performance that much for ps2? Haven't tried it on any android.
Can confirm my phone does, with the same chip so yeah
Not everything 3x, but yeah
March
Where is Scott. Doesnāt feel like a Odin release without Scott
Don't you have to pay taxes?
March is a fair time line
Iām willing to give AYN some slack on fulfillment for this one. Itās an integration of an existing design. They are not breaking new ground here
It's my guess.
Mine also after CNY.
Wrong Scott or that could be him also.
in NZ, if our import is personal use and the cost of the import including shipping is less than $1000nzd after conversion, we do not have to pay additional import taxes.
we get taxed at the time of purchase
Just start a YouTube channel and a get a LLC and write off all your handhelds. Run it for a year if it doesnāt take off file for bankruptcy. Itās the American way.
hello mr. AYN, I am super popular Youtuber with 4.0000000 subscribers, please send me free Odin 2
Please send me all available colorways for my followers to enjoy 
This would be interesting actually
Can confirm this does not work
I thought you can auction off random companies property for charity if you are a youtuber.
Only if you maintain a hostile workplace
don't forget the unhinged rant about how employees unionizing would be a grave personal insult to you before you drive away in your custom wrapped porche taycan
Also question the ethics of investigative journalists for not being a bro and calling you first.
Even the price of the base model without the discount looks worth it
People should really want the 12gb or above models
At early bird 12 gb is clear winner imo
God dam
I am heavily considering backing
I think you're right for early bird, I'm looking at full retail
at which point it's a lot of money for 4gb more ram
I think if you want and need the case and screen protector and then factor in the storage as well the 16GB model is compelling especially for the future capability of unreleased software still to come
Screw GoW, where are the Shadow of the Colossus videos??
I might just do 16gb cause fuckkkkkkkk it
buy two
That game...a bit ugly tho.
It runs Shadow of the Colossus perfectly at 3x resolution no problems
(Also less likely to get canceled š)
Pour one out for the 1215u loki bros
Absolutely but it's more intensive than GoW, right?
We are at a point GoW should be a given.
Ill backup for the 260
Screw it backing the 450. I just want to see that come to fruition
Buy three
Same. I'll never need another android device at that point. Future proof til I'm dead. 
Likely not literally, but close enough
I think it's pretty unlikely we get a reasonable more powerful Android handheld than the Odin 2 for at least a year or two after it comes out
This one is going to have some staying power
I have a razer edge and basically have no use for this, but like dude, I love cool tech and just want to see it happen lmao. And at the very best/worst this would be like the best birthday/Christmas gift I ever give away lol
I couldn't do the Edge due to the aspect ratio. This seems like the best do all.
The only thing that could really upstage the Odin 2 is if Aya releases something similar with an OLED panel
Yeah oled on this wouldāve been insane
starting at only $699!!
Battery life would take a hit with OLED...i think?
oled makes battery life better iirc
Battery would be very good on android. Wouldnāt matter either way
8000 mAh battery + how efficient this chip runs I wouldn't be surprised to get 10+hrs
I think u could buy this and go into Android hibernation for like 3 years
Honestly some people can likely finally be set for life
Some people just want amazing gc/ps2. And while overkill, this will provide
I just don't see the need for 12gb
PS2/GC will never come close. Switch hovers at like ~6gb
Yuzu min req is 10gb, Cassia will demand a lot too
Yuzu recommends more, and thatās the emulator of choice for most going forward
But if you truly only want gc/ps2, 8 is plenty
It's the only one that's going to be actually updated, although I haven't been following strato
Ahhh I see, I hadn't heard of Cassia or that Yuzu upped their min specs.
I wonder if a particular game pushed it or something.
Iām pretty sure yuzus always been 8 min
Like you can run some lighter games off less, but 8 being min recommended
Youāll never need another android handheld⦠until the next one
Yeah I can't decide between 12 or 16 ram either. As future proof as 16 seems, in two or three years there will be something better
I want the case and protector, so 16gb seems better value
Plus more onboard storage. Also would be able to do a ridiculous amount of multitasking lmao
This is the real decider between the tiers imo
Fuck ok you guys are right. Ill do 450
If it had an OLED panel I'd be inclined to agree that it's future-proofed till you die, but as soon as something with similar performance comes out with a better panel you'll probably want it
Me
OLED gives better battery life while seeing black screens. Unless that's the plan, you won't see much difference in battery life compared to LCD.
Maybe a dumb question, but will it be possible to run Windows in this? I've read somewhere that was a thing with 8 Gen 2.
Look up winlator, running it natively though afaik is impossible
Desktop mode will be nice though
While OLED displays have a better contrast ratio, I think LCD displays have a better longevity.
I think you're technically right but I would also say people over worry about OLED longevity in general. I have a day one Vita that's over 12 years old that's perfectly fine and I'm using an OLED TV from 2016 and I use it as a desktop PC monitor with static UI elements constantly on it and there's no burn in and it's working great. As long as you take care of your stuff and don't use it in extreme circumstances, you're unlikely to encounter any OLED issues especially for an Android device.
The best deal would be like the Super Fan of Odin 1 deal which was a secret link Taki gave out.
I actually ordered normal Super Early Bird of Odin 1 and then cancelled when I found the secret link.
There will be a secret link as well
So itās possible the āwinā will be a secret link.
gave out where?
I heard about the Odin 1 late so I think I just got the "regular" IGG price
I'm guessing the $40 off that's shown on igg is the way to get a secret link this time.
Of course. For people who are careful, OLED is better.
But considering everyone who'll buy, LCD is safe.
someone posted this in the AYN discord
I don't know Chinese but it shows the time the (Chinese) pre-sale will start
Tuesday at 5 AM Pacific time ( šŖ¦ )
I already get 8-10 on Odin 1, so yeah, this will do you nicely. My only worry is the panel. If I can finally play on all my psp and PS2 games on Android, I'll be happy. I only ever owned 5 games on PS3 and two of them I never even played, so this is kinda it... If the panel doesn't suck
I believe AYN will announce the IGG start date at some point today or tomorrow
Waking up to all this news is baller!
So it looks like Early Bird price is just the regular IGG price then? In which case I'm blown away. The rest of the prices roughly tracks with only the jump from 8gb to 12gb which we can ascertain as a way to make the device affordable on th 8gb and probably more accurately reflects the general cost of this device with the 8gb set to be enticing.
12gb seems like the way to go forward.
Can't choose color unless u go 12gb, biggest $$$ save from retail is 12gb model, they really want people to buy pro model
They are probably making almost no money on the lowest spec
The Odins IGG campaign limited you to only black for a lot of the lower prices so this isn't too surprising. At least this time we don't have to back a super pack to get access to all the colours š
I'm wondering if maybe the best play here is to buy the cheapest model for PS2 and below and just buy a separate device in a couple years for switch and windows and hopefully it'll have OLED
By then we will have new flagship chip and a better idea of RAM req on vita3k, cassia, yuzu
As someone with no device-- 12GB Odin 2 is the way cause it'll do everything currently possible, the everything device. I might lose out on Cassia but that doesn't bother me.
I'm also someone with no device, I'm very patient and I've been waiting for my everything all in one
The Yuzu recommended ram is 10GB and @ 12 I think this will cover all the development
Not to mention the ram requirements can only go down as it gets more optimized it won't go up
I'll just be sad if I miss the IGG campaign while busy immigrating
Everything is moving so fast
I'm just not sure if cassia should actually be taken into account on this purchase considering we know nothing about how it will perform. It's a non-factor if even old PC games from 15 years ago can't even hit 30 FPS
Buying a device for what it can do in the future is never a wise thing to do
Especially with how fast tech advances
I agree. Cassia is a bonus if anything. If you want switch emulation then I think the 12gb model is the sweet spot
With how they've priced things I'm between the 8 GB or 16 GB, because I'll gladly pay an extra 20 or $30 for the extra Ram and double the storage considering I want the case and screen protector anyway
yea im going 12
I agree 16GB is basically a non-starter for me
pretty sure cassia is gonna be optimised for like, <12gb anyway
given thats what most phones are running
so why not just buy the 16gb then.....as you said, buying the screen protector and case would total to around $40 anyways right?
You're not wrong the only issue is you're not really saving much money if you're like me and want the case and screen protector. If I buy the 12 GB with the case and screen protector it's only like $30 off the 16GB model and 4GB of RAM and double the storage is worth that
the rest is just ram and storage
they probably will have option to buy the case and protector tho
They have price things very well to upsell us that's for sure
actually, that would just prove your point more than anything
I have friends in China and I'm considering buying it there lol
coz it would be easily $30-40 as addons, which means the additional $30 would just be more ram and storage
But then there'd be a delay on them coming to South Africa and then someone from South Africa coming to the UK twice as many hops
Basically I would get the 12 GB if you have your own case and screen protector and don't plan to buy them as add-ons
if they don't have a matte screen protector as an option then im not getting it from ayn
How often do new Snapdragon chips come out? Is it like CPUs where it's basically once a year?
yeah
I don't really follow phone tech to be honest, no idea what the performance improvements are like from one generation to the next
or at least, once every couple years
performance is usually pretty iterative, but over time it builds up obv
Yeah sounds exactly like CPUs then, most people don't upgrade every generation but rather every two or three
Although Android seems to have a particularly specific issue of poor software support which is vastly different from CPUs and windows
Even if the next generation Snapdragon was vastly improved it's not like you can really take advantage of it
Fuck, choosing which Ram to go with is tough
Get a 8 gen 2, skip the 8 gen 3 devices and wait for the 8 gen 4 custom design cores from nuvia
exactly.
Some phone companies are even skipping 8 gen 3 and staying with 8 gen 2 for another year. They are saying the performance is not worth the upgrade
8 Gen 2 was a major improvement over previous generations due to being more powerful yes but efficient in comparison to the previous chips which seemed to sacrifice efficiency for improvements, definitely the generation I'd be comfortable spending my time waiting for the next similarly substantial leap
Side by side or rather over/under of Odin 2 vs Odin 1
Also more options
AYN really pulling out all the stops to try and ensure people are happy
if they ship these asap they'll dominate the market for a while
I don't understand why AYN only allows black for the cheapest model. Can't see any use of 12GB RAM for Android. I had this argument with Odin 1. Did anybody feel restricted from 4GB on that? Now people think they'll be restricted with 8GB?
8gb should be fine even for most switch emulation
Not sure why I'm considering this one anyway. Seems redundant with Steam Deck. I did sell my Odin 1 for more than I paid for it I guess
If i get one it's the cheapest model for me
339 dollars is an attractive price for what we get for sure
50% increase in price just for extra 8gb of ram is a bit extreme I think
I will go with white 12gb model
12gb model for sure..if I plan to get one
It's not just for 8gb or ram though? 4 times the internal storage, screen protector and bag.
@trail kayak do we have a date on preorder yet?
And is it just early bird pricing or are they doing loyalty perks?
They said next week for the IGG
I haven't seen anything about loyalty perks this time, but it sounds like there's a limited quantity with a further $40 discount
But I think that's gonna be first come first served
Super paranoid
I'm actually thinking the base model looks like it's plenty this time
I wake up and Iām like uhhhhhhh what day is it? SHIT I gotta see if that shit dropped.
Whatās the actual use case for the big boy?
They are estimating shipping by Christmas
I'm not entirely sure. I think windows emulation requires a lot of ram, maybe Yuzu will use it too
Windows emu
You're late Kira
move all that to x86 device land and get the lower end here
I'm not sure, tbh. I'm really not up to speed on what win on arm is like
@gusty crane This has basically all the info for a pin
Weāve got too many devices we donāt need 8gen2 to do our x86 stuff
The big boy is for the person chasing the one device philosophy right?
Yeah, that's very true. That's why I think the base is probably the best, If I'm gonna go for one
And even Linux on 8gen2 should be fine with 8gb for most everything right?
Hmmm 12gb for switch
I would think so. I mean, maybe with Linux you could get some WiiU going.
I need to get over switch emulation with owning both a chipped oled and chipped lite I think. Upscaling potential isnāt enough
Yeah 10 is necessary for some games so that's my goal
If you don't intend to emulate Switch or Windows, 8GB is more than enough imo
I think the base will get just about the max potential out of Android emulators, under switch of course
I'll use my switch for switch, for now lol
And considering you could potentiall get the 8GB for like $260~ if you're quick on the trigger it's just fantastic value
And steam and Loki keep me covered on x86
Oh yeah, didn't see the extras. The internal storage is kind of whatever since SD cards are so cheap. I'm a no case or screen protector guy so didn't really look for those things. I guess that's a decent deal then if you want it
And if we get dual boot Linux here for emulationstationā¦. I can start seriously thinking about living in a post-powkiddy world.
If I got that extra $40 off, it's a no-brainer, even if it takes a year.
Now Iām going to completely lose you and say that I will probably get the middle one so I can add the blue color to the collection for more visual diversity on my shelf 
Fucking Ayn knows me
My whole collection is pretty much black or grey
I don't feel the draw for the colourful ones
You logical, colorless man
Man, ffs, I was so not gonna be interested in this just 24hrs ago, now the desire is real
I was also kinda still interested in the pocket Air, that's now at 0% š¤£
I think I am going for the white 12/256 sku
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I swear, I take a really hard look at everything aya puts out and though Iām satisfied with my 2021 device, I canāt justify their prices man. They just lose me on cost and I should be solidly in their target market.
They want to apple with their pricing.
I buy plenty of ewaste but as I approach $1k i feel much better spending that kind of money with an asus or Lenovo
I got an air pro 5560u 2nd hand. No way I could justify full price. It's a lovely device, but the prices are killer
Even gpd scares me a bit as they approach $1k
yoooo it got fingerprint sensor?
I struggle with gpd too, it seems most models come with some flaw and they offer a discount for whatever they come out with next
To keep you tied in
Not to mention, they completely abandoned their last 2 android devices.
Hereās the question I ponder from time to time. What if valve decides to approach $1k with a steam2 device and they add value relative to that cost and relative to the same value proposition as the first device. Do I have $1k for them?
Double the price, but with the same relative value would be a beast
I think I'd buy that
I guess I did drop 1400 chasing xg mobile on my Ally š
Which Iām not getting my value from lol
Totally ridiculous to think Iād have the time to get 700 $worth back from just that dock.
I can't think about that
There's devices on my shelf that still have the original screen sticker on, they've given me no value in reality lol
It was cool though and I got dopamine from unboxing and connecting it to see if it worked
Felt good to have a "set" of miyoo mini, for example, but what do you do with 4 tiny devices š¤£š¤£
Omg genius
We should make little xmas ornament cases for them and make a KILLING on Etsy
Time to be gazillionaires
Haha
Did you see what I made last night?
No, I don't think so
Very slick
N64freak custom compute board where the dude fabbed new boards and installed the components by hand. Crazy stuff from a legend. Paired it with a q5 ips, upgraded sound and a lipo pack. All wrapped up in play it out crystal to see it all.
Itās essentially a brand new dmg, but still completely true to the og hardware
Will last forever hopefully
That's awesome
I have a gbp and a gbc here to restore one day. But they're totally stock now
Hereās something I have started doing
Bagging and labeling my ābacklog projectsā
Sakura buttons for example
Those tend to stack up
Iām trying to keep my labeled projects in a box so when I get a free afternoon, I can just go select from the box.
Thatās evolved from just stacking boxes like Iām wicked gamer
Iām atleast unpacking and processing my horde now
Ugh, you're making me think of all the shit I have boxed up doing nothing, waiting for some love
I have a Saturn and a DC that need a bit of work, but are both in good condition generally
I just realized that decision paralysis can kill an open 3 hour window really quickly and I need to set myself up better to capitalize on those or Iām never going to progress
Very practical
I kept wanting to execute on the things that I couldnāt find
So Iām spending 30% of my time just trying to find the thing I need to do.
I get too easily distracted by YouTube and my cats. Projects pile up and eventually just end up in a box in a cupboard š
This is why you just need to help me move to Australia and we can get up on weekends and force this shit
lol
If I had a buddy to do this stuff with, I bet you I could crush 5 projects in a day
And the perception to my SO would be that I was āsocializingā with my āfriendsā
So she would go off and do something and I could be left alone to find the bottom of the rabbit hole
I definitely need some motivation to get into mine. Just about every weekend I want to get stuck into some device and get it updated and setup right, but yeah, distractions...
The last time I got a big run against the backlog, I had to take an entire week off work and still only found about 15 hours.
Thatās why the Gameboy stuff is so appealing. Setting up a flashcart with a few gb of roms is super straight forward and can actually be completed.
Android is never done
My x18s doesnāt have a single updated emulator for instance. Basically needs to be rebuilt
But how do I ever get time to revisit something like that? Especially when I havenāt even started on my ktr1 yet š
Haha
When you know it's just going to go back on a shelf it's hard to wanna keep them updated
My x18s will be the same, hasn't been turned on in a year at least
I wonder if AYN will get over 12k orders on IGG like the first Odin
Total cost looking to be $435 with dhl shipping if I go for the pro
Exchange rates are gonna kill me š
alright might be time for a channel
cut me some slack š
"Might" 
