🧬︲helix-chat

[hazy fog]

#🧬︲helix-chat message

[edgy mural]

so i am active user why not eligible

[shut sphinx]

querido, mto obg 😄

[wind apex]

above I inserted the photos of both the trades and the stake, how is this possible?

[hazy fog]

then it means you didn't meet the criteria ser

[humble musk]

I got 200 pretty happy

[wind apex]

why??? trade done , stake done

[north gyro]

Have you trade spot and perp with helix app?

[edgy mural]

yes check above screen shoot even yesterday i buy inj on helix my 1st trade was on 9 august

[north gyro]

Buying is spot, perp is future trading kind of. Boss

[frigid ledge]

i have an error on the rewards menu ? i have a white page , have you got similar problem ?

[humble musk]

Reported

[edgy mural]

so what is this both are active even i am stuck in perp more then 1month

[hazy fog]

reported yes

[frigid ledge]

ok , thanks

[hazy fog]

ser, showing screenshots won't work sorry, if you are not eligible then there's nothing we can do about it

[north gyro]

Ok I see. You are right.

[deep glen]

Hello,The slippage in Pyth/Inj exchanges rates in very high.Are you considering to fix it?

[hazy fog]

yes, more liquidity should be coming soon

[edgy mural]

i am not saying and asking give me reward... and screen shoot i am sending because of you have one reply only( you didn't meet the criteria) otherwise i dont have any interest to send screen shoot here.. thanks for dealing

[deep glen]

thanks ser you are the best 🙏

[grave harness]

I'm in the same case, I actively used Helix for swap, I have a trading bot since begining of January but I'm not eligible... so the criteria is not clear. Maybe you can detail the criteria a little bit more

[hazy fog]

please check #🧬︲helix-chat message

[vapid bough]

Ive tweeted but my claim still says ‘tweet to claim’ tried several times has anyone else had this issue?

[hazy fog]

press ctrl+f5 and try again

[vapid bough]

Im on mobile dont have a laptop atm it broke

[hazy fog]

make sure to user your wallets browser

if not, please try again with desktop

[vapid bough]

No way for me to claim then damn

Whats the bonusblock form do i need to do that first ?

[hazy fog]

https://injective.bonusblock.io/

[vapid bough]

So thats necessary for the claim to work?

[thorn pendant]

one question...1 inj staking was required for airdrop,does that mean stake with walidator?

[solid depot]

Preeching Injective and Helix accros the world ! Thanks for the airdrop Helix

[hazy fog]

nope

[hazy fog]

yes, that's one of the requirements

[hazy fog]

always welcome mr josh chad

[thorn pendant]

ok.so i have staking since november more than 100 inj,had trading volume on helix around 15k in decembar,even use trading bot for couple of days and still not eligible for airdrop...how?

[thorn canopy]

is there a way to bridge my PYTH token from injective to solana without swapping it into a different coin?

so a bridge from PYTH (INJ) -> PYTH (SOL)

[solid depot]

I don't think so.

[solid depot]

You know you can supply into mito and get 500% apy of pyth

[vale magnet]

This Msg Is From Dec 28th N Here Im Got Reward Of 491Pyth Thank U Every1

[hazy fog]

should be able to, check and see if you can convert it to cw20 on the wallet section at the hub https://hub.injective.network/

[thorn canopy]

i can convert sol but not pyth into cw20

or is there a different chain that i can send my pyth to?

[hazy fog]

I see, I believe this is being worked on, please come back and check in a few days

[slow shore]

How can we claim PYTH?

[hazy fog]

https://helixapp.com/airdrop

[slow shore]

Once we claim, where do we find the token on Keplr?

[plush bison]

thank you helix ! You are the one )

[hazy fog]

can find it on the hub or helix https://hub.injective.network/

[slow shore]

How can we bridge pyth to solana?

[hazy fog]

not supported yet, should be in a couple of days

[ashen plover]

I have more than 10 inj in staker and I am not eligible

[hazy fog]

#🧬︲helix-chat message

[ashen plover]

im joker for you?

[safe scaffold]

we are so back

[coarse scaffold]

I am a helix user and it says i am not eligible for the drop

[patent heron]

the eligibility is clear and set, there will be no rechecking of addresses. If the app says you are not eligible than it means you haven't met the criteria.

in most on the criteria you need to trade perp maybe is not the only criteria but is the main criteria across most of the allocation options

[coarse scaffold]

I used mostly the bot trading (beta) and swapping

[south flume]

I contacted support a few days ago regarding my Helix account. I can't exit a trading bot that has been running for 27 days. Everytime i press to exit - i get a invalid response.

[patent heron]

please take a screenshot

[south flume]

the last support guy , said that it was weird and to try again later to exit. So i left it a couple of days and still the same response - Invalid , you have a pending transaction

[patent heron]

you can DM me your address I will check

[south flume]

the total profit and 6.83% hasn't changed

ok, sorry but how do i dm you?

[patent heron]

you can send here is ok

[south flume]

inj1c4g8ke9qvldyz5867p989094cy0enf83dp33pq

[patent heron]

ty reported

[carmine jungle]

Hate that I miss out on helix drop

[vapid bough]

Anyone found a way to claim within the keplr mobile app yet?

[autumn onyx]

You should be able to do it.

Just open Helix in the in-app browser of Keplr and then claim.

[vapid bough]

Doesnt give me an option to paste the tweet url in once i tweet, still just says tweet to enable claim still

[autumn onyx]

Can you send a screenshot in DM? Will check.

[vapid bough]

👍🏻

[arctic notch]

Just refresh here, this “pending transaction” is just an UI constraint

[halcyon crater]

@arctic notch
what were the requirements for airdrop pyth? I have transactions on Helix but I am not eligible for airdrop

[pearl lynx]

@arctic notch why i am not eligible for pyth airdrop,i staked 6.50 inj from long & little bit swap aswell on helix.

[autumn onyx]

Here's the criteria:

**Tier 1 - **Trade on spot AND perp AND at least one staked INJ
**Tier 2 - **Trade on pre-launch futures AND at least one staked INJ
**Tier 3 - **Trade on spot AND perp AND grid trading bot AND pre-launch futures AND at least one staked INJ

**Question **
Why perp/pre-launch futures is a must?
**Answer **
The main usecase for PYTH on Helix right now is providing oracle data for **PERPETUAL/Expiry Futures markets. **

[autumn onyx]

That likely means that you do not meet the criteria.

[halcyon crater]

hmm, I make transactions on the evm wallet and I stake 50 inj on keplr :/

[pearl lynx]

Wow in 5 months you became CM/Master/Lord pretty good achievements

[autumn onyx]

Haha, thanks.

[pearl lynx]

I am 5 month your senior 😂

[lethal plover]

🌝

[agile lynx]

Is this legit?

[azure sky]

Yes it is legit, as the tweet is from official Helixapp's X page

[agile lynx]

Ahh shit, not eligible

[halcyon crater]

how can I connect my keplr address to the evm address from metamask?

[azure sky]

[autumn onyx]

If they are not initially derived from same private key then it is not possible.

[twin spoke]

@arctic notch I have used Heliz many times, and I have for 3 months, active bot trading...
Why am I not eligible for the Pyth airdrop ?

[autumn onyx]

Please make sure you meet the eligibility criteria: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[pure briar]

Get the PYTH airdrop on Solana because I interaced with Helix
Didn't get the PYTH airdrop on Injective because I didn't interact with Helix
Nice

[high jewel]

And what's the point here?

[pure briar]

No point just shitposting, love you guys ❤️

[prime cobalt]

portalbridge works from injective to solana?

[high jewel]

Yes

[main igloo]

@golden perch : https://blog.injective.com/en/open-liquidity-program-olp-launch/
Here it's written that for the OLP we can provide liquidity throught the API or throught the DEX (Helix) or throught Project X (Mito). Is it true ? Cause I've been told that it was only throught the API

[hushed tendon]

wow very good

[junior token]

There is a pyth airdrop for helix users before 14th feb. I got a wallet that has traded several times on helix since December but it’s not eligible. Can some1 support?

[high jewel]

You can see criteria here #🧬︲helix-chat message

[junior token]

Yeah I fulfill tier 1 criteria. Got many INJ staked and also many orders since December

[high jewel]

So you trade spot and perp?

[junior token]

That’s what I found on the site. And yeah I see my orders from the past and also have staked INJ

[high jewel]

If you traded spot and perp and had INJ staked then you should be eligible for the airdrop

[junior token]

That’s what I am saying 😅 I got over 50 INJ staked on several validators and more than 40 orders since December

[high jewel]

DM me with your address, will check

[harsh vine]

great

[keen peak]

@sour wagon You can lodge your complaint here

[dull seal]

if you have not traded perps then you are not eligible, correct?

(for pyth airdrop)

[vagrant cedar]

Correct

[hushed portal]

Is normal the price of PYTH on Helix Is lower than real price feed?

[vagrant cedar]

yeah remember the is a free market so prices is determined by the free market

that is just an arbitrage opportunity

[hushed portal]

Right !!

[hushed portal]

An such good opportunity🔥

[hushed portal]

Have any way to transfer Pyth , without swapping , on Solana?

[vagrant cedar]

you mean bridging pyth ?

[vagrant cedar]

Solana is congested so it will take lots of tries and time but yeah https://portalbridge.com/?ref=blog.helixapp.com

that is probably why there is a discrepancy

[hushed portal]

Thanks , I want to stake my airdrop bag , but think I will waiting probably , Hope no snapshot in this days😅

[celest dust]

Helix airdrop claim active ?

[vagrant cedar]

There is no airdrop for helix if you mean the pyth airdrop you can do so here, https://helixapp.com/airdrop/

[hot anvil]

I tried the Portal Bridge but seems like it is stuck on the Solana side. Been 6 hours. INJ Mintscan shows as Success, but nothing on SOL side. I can wait but do you suggest opening a ticket with Portal/Wormhole?

[patent heron]

Yes, please reach out to their support team

[valid lion]

is helix ever gonna get supported by these tax websites because none of the transactions on here are detected

all of it is clunky

[patent heron]

Thanks for your feedback

[valid lion]

ok so when will it be supported

[patent heron]

We can't pre-announce. The team will share when everything ready.

[valid lion]

its been in the works since 2021 for a csv feature, everything from helix is the only thing missing from the tax software

not even supported by api on koinly either

[patent heron]

he eligibility is clear and set, there will be no rechecking of addresses. If the app says you are not eligible than it means you haven't met the criteria.

in most on the criteria you need to trade perp maybe is not the only criteria but is the main criteria across most of the allocation options

[distant current]

i used spot trade many times on helix but shows no airdrop for me on airdrop page ??????

[autumn onyx]

Trading perps as well was one of the main criterias in most of the allocation options.

[distant current]

yes but i should have got airdrop for using the spot trade many times ?????? not happy at all !!!

[autumn onyx]

The main use case for Pyth on Helix right now is to provide oracle data for Perpetual markets, so trading perps was important to be eligible.

[distant current]

not happy , spent alot of time doing spot trades for this airdrop, !!!!!!!

[distant current]

not happy , spent alot of time doing spot trades for this airdrop, !!!!!!! you need to be clearer about these things , not fair , wasted time for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[autumn onyx]

The eligiblity criteria is clear and set and there will be no recheckings, if you're eligible the the airdrop page will indicate that and let you claim if not then it will not.

There's nothing we can do now.

[distant current]

well that is ridiculous !!!!! you need to have a good look at how you offer things , i interaceted many times with you site , for NO reward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[autumn onyx]

So your goal for using Helix was to aim for this unannounced airdrop? Better luck next time I guess, stay tuned for future campaigns which might have spot as requirement.

[distant current]

ok thanks , but you really need to include those who are doing alot of interations with your product

[autumn onyx]

Noted, thanks for the feedback.

[eager wigeon]

Guys I am new in here is there any support? I think I need one

[autumn onyx]

How can we help you?

[eager wigeon]

I think it was in December when I first entered Helix and bought NINJA/KIRA but if I want to take a look at my position now it shows "0"
15 Days ago I was watching at the same Coins and than it shows my Balance but now it dont 😦 Any ideas?

[autumn onyx]

You can DM your INJ address, will check.

[eager wigeon]

Done 🙂 Thanks 🙏

[stray merlin]

Lol
This airdrop was never announced. How was you doing anything for it? Lmao

[craggy kindle]

How to get warrior role please

[autumn onyx]

You can engage in conversations within the community to gradually level up and reach Warrior rank.

[craggy kindle]

Oh thanks boss

[vivid shale]

@autumn onyx I've found that I'm not eligible for the airdrop, though I'm sure I fit into criteria, I've used spot trading, inj staking, liquidity bot on Helix. Can you please help me? Do you mind checking my wallet?

[autumn onyx]

Perps was also one of the requirements.

[red gazelle]

I'm new here

[loud wraith]

does trading perps and spot requirement with inj staking, or inj staking alone gets elligible

[autumn onyx]

All three.

Spot + Perps + Stake

[loud wraith]

gotchu, fairplay

[main igloo]

Regarding the HDRO/INJ competition, does the volume made throught the API count ? On spot market

[autumn onyx]

Only the transactions placed on the HDRO/INJ spot market on the Helix frontend will be counted.

[main igloo]

So it means that it doesn't count right ?

[autumn onyx]

I assume so.

Since it's mentioned that only frontend transactions will be counted.

[main igloo]

I've read the sentence before asking but I wanted to be sure

[azure sky]

Pyth Awerdrop yayy..

now im fkin rich

[glossy nimbus]

U got it?

[azure sky]

Nah just joking 😅

[hazy light]

What's the update here guys

[foggy coral]

ok

[subtle pollen]

oooh just got my pyth airdrop, amazing! thanks helix!

[junior wraith]

I read through all the airdrop information and understand the criteria. However, I am incredibly disappointed. Perpetual trading is not allowed in my region. I have been using all the other features on Helix almost daily. I spend more time and money on Helix than any other crypto/nft/web3 site.

[azure sky]

Sorry for you, but trading perps was one of the important requirement

[mellow basin]

how can I sent my concerns regarding dr*p?

[azure sky]

If you have any query or concern related to Pyth drop, you can drop it here
cms will help you

[mellow basin]

I can't , because bots are not allow me

inj1llkw986h5dkqnqtkpu43kt5469k3q94dn5egh5

[azure sky]

Please avoid greetings and inappropriate words

[mellow basin]

check this, I have staked INJ and traded on Helix

why I am not eligible?

[high jewel]

If the app says you are not eligible than it means you haven't met the criteria.

in most on the criteria you need to trade perp maybe is not the only criteria but is the main criteria across most of the allocation options

See the critearia here #💻︲api-support message

[mellow basin]

haha, crazy , thats crazy, supporting your platform and INJ in general, and I should also trade perps? Are the everybody should be a trader?

[azure sky]

I think you haven't staked 1 INJ.
Staking minimum 1 INJ was one of the requirement

[mellow basin]

I have staked and also staking right now

[high jewel]

You can see above criteria, if you are not eligible then wait for another chance

[mellow basin]

crazy

[junior wraith]

I think the issue that is not being addressed is the regional restriction. Perpetual trading is not an option for everyone so it feels like an unfair criteria.

I hate using words like 'unfair' because nothing is fair. However, it sucks to be yet again screwed by where I live.

[autumn onyx]

Not really, actually the main use case we have for Pyth on Helix at the moment is to provide oracle data for those very perpetual markets, so the perpetual markets were in a sense the main reason this airdrop even came into existence, now if we don't include the perpetual markets which made the airdrop possible into criteria, wouldn't that make a unreasonable criteria?

Everything's there for a reason sire, we take everything into account while deciding these criterias. :)

[azure sky]

[tame musk]

role so hard

[humble musk]

Last time Pyth huge drop, but USA was excluded. This time not much different, since perp trading is not allowed USA

[woeful gyro]

**Decentralized NONJA/INJ Spot Market Listing on Helix **

The NONJA/INJ spot market is available on Helix! Nonja is a memecoin on Injective.

Helix is the first platform that supports NONJA/INJ spot market with limit orders. Anyone can use Helix as a crypto cross-chain trading gateway with zero gas fees, best-in-class security, and lightning-fast speeds.

📚 Read More: https://blog.helixapp.com/en/decentralized-nonja-inj-spot-market-listing-on-helix/
🥷 Trade NONJA/INJ: https://helixapp.com/spot/nonja-inj

[tall notch]

People that are wining about the criteria needs to chill. Alot of airdrop farmers that just want the money and don’t care about the tech so I think it was fair

[junior wraith]

Thank you for the added detail. It's still a bummer, but it makes sense. I can feel bummed and respect the logic simultaneously.

[blissful forge]

Thanks Helix team, do you know fi there will be a season 2?

[autumn onyx]

We don't have information on that yet.

[severe meadow]

a lot of people are saying thet meet the stated criteria but didnt get get airdrop, is helix team sure they didnt mess up?

[autumn onyx]

Nope, you needed to meet all the criterias in one of the allocation options.

Most think it's or while it's actually and.

[valid lion]

Ser,when our helix launch next trading evnet?

[high jewel]

Don't have info for that

[valid lion]

thx Stefan

[vale magnet]

how to transfer pyth from inj to cex ?

[high jewel]

You can't bridge PYTH from Injective to CEX

you can only bridge INJ

[vale magnet]

so much slippage to swap pyth to inj any other way pls ?

[high jewel]

You can wait some time, team will add bridge from Injective to Solana for PYTH

[vale magnet]

wow thank uuu team

[azure sky]

Can bridge trough portal?

[high jewel]

Yes, via https://portalbridge.com/

but it's not our product

[magic granite]

How to add PYTH to Kepler wallet? I’m unable to see my Claimed tokens

[high jewel]

Team will add support for that very soon

[vale magnet]

Tqq Broo

[azure sky]

You bridged successfully without having any errors?

[vale magnet]

Yeah Went Smooth Just Need To Sign Multiple Transactions Total Below 2$ Fee

[azure sky]

Good to hear Solana isn't facing congestion anymore

[vale magnet]

Yeah They Gave Warning On Portal But I Did Anyways Btw Inj To Sol Fraction Of Seceonds But Claiming On Sol Is Late N Multiplke transactions

[tropic obsidian]

henlo, where can i send a request for the pyth/helix airdrop?
made few tx on feb 10th yet im not elligible :/

[autumn onyx]

Replied in #💬・general

[tribal mauve]

oooh just got my pyth airdrop, amazing! thanks helix!

[tidal onyx]

Did you stake pyth on injective?

[tidal onyx]

I staked pyth on solana but I got no airdrop.

[azure sky]

You can't stake PYTH on Injective.
Here is the criteria for Pyth airdrop: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[tall notch]

Wtf i have been trying to bridge for two days but still congested for me

[tall notch]

Gz! How much did I get?

[vagrant cedar]

you can check here

https://helixapp.com/airdrop/

[tall notch]

Autocorrect 😂 should be U*

[fierce bay]

Salty that I didn't trade on helix and missed out on pyth

[wraith mulch]

I don’t understand it says total loss 0.4 inj but everything is gone my whole investment

[vagrant cedar]

the bot was stopped
You can go to the account page and you will see your funds in the respective sub account.

You can enable sub account management on the top right and then you can move your funds to the main account

[wraith mulch]

Thanks for your fast response

[gilded aurora]

I have made sevaral spot and swap on helix. i have many inj on stake to.. i used perpetual on helix to. why didnt i get any pyth airdrop? did u airdropet to only friends and other members?

[autumn onyx]

Replied in #💬・general

[harsh vine]

helix

[smoky isle]

Pyth Airdrop was only for those who made trade on Pyth / Inj pair not all other pair traders

[outer vale]

No lol

Read the criteria, it was for those who traded in both spot + perp markets on Helix and staked at least 1 INJ.

[smoky isle]

Man i am also helix user having lot of swaps and trade also staked more than 45 Inj but not eligible its written in article Pyth / Inj pair go and visit it

[tulip escarp]

helix

[outer vale]

@hazy fog Yo, can you confirm this ser? It was for all markets or just Pyth/Inj? Afaik it was for all markets.

[hazy fog]

Yea all markets, had to be both spot or perps, also have at least 1 inj staked

[outer vale]

[smoky isle]

Then why we are not eligible can we go for support in Helix ?

[outer vale]

You probably didn't trade perps.

Or didn't meet some criteria, at least not at the time of snapshot.

[smoky isle]

It might be like that i have either missed Perp or may be am late in snapshot

[outer vale]

Ya

Gl for next drop ser

[smoky isle]

For Sure but was eligible for other Inj drops

[hazy fog]

Yes probably that, either way we are no checking addresses or anything like that

[smoky isle]

Thanks man for confirmation

[crisp girder]

Please add a transaction history download feature.
This will be needed for tax calculations!

[patent heron]

Thanks for your suggestion

[forest lake]

What'sup bro,
How was your night over there

[modest prairie]

for casual chat , you should go here #🌆｜chit-chat

[outer vale]

ty for listing soggs

[proven root]

I have traded spot and perp prior to snapshot.
But I don't see my wallet|

Not too many spot orders but lotta Perp orders

[autumn onyx]

Staking INJ was also an important requirement.

[proven root]

And staked as well

So I am not sure what to make of this
Or if I can raise a ticket for it

[autumn onyx]

You can DM you INJ address, can check but there will be no more recheckings for the airdrop, if you're ineligible then it cannot be changed.

[proven root]

Was there a min requirement of no of orders for spot

[autumn onyx]

Volume or number could've been a deciding factor but I don't have information on that.

[proven root]

I only have one spot order
So that could have been a problem

[autumn onyx]

Possible

[devout field]

Do you think injective will have same MC as Solana?

[autumn onyx]

You can use #🐳・degen-chat

[forest lake]

I think so fam

[wintry python]

Guys, I've been providing liquidity since 2023 at HELIX. I'm sad because I'm not eligible for the airdrop. I'm going to get my liquids there today, what are you doing?

[tropic helm]

what do we do i f we meet all the criteria but our wallet says no claim

trader perps, spot, staked 100

[high jewel]

It is impossible, any address that meets the criteria is eligible to make a claim

[frail oxide]

I used the Helix trading robot and was not eligible, I am extremely disappointed...

[glossy nimbus]

everyone who met criteria are allowed to get drop

[night ridge]

where do I get support for Helix spot trading bot?

[high jewel]

You can share your issue here

[night ridge]

Tried to create the grid trading bot but was removed. Funds are not returned.

[high jewel]

Can you check in your subaccount?

Click on your right corner and enable your subaccount management

then go to "Account" and check there

[night ridge]

found it. thx

[tall notch]

anyone have problems loading helixapp?

[high jewel]

Working fine on my end

[tall notch]

strange, this have happened for me a few times. other website works but not helix 😦

anyone more than me pushing the hydro trading?

[tall notch]

what was the biggest allocation you could claim on the PYTH airdrop?

[timber pasture]

Let's aim for it! 🚀

[tall notch]

is there any chance that u will implement some basic TA tools to the helix app?

[glad wigeon]

Where do we make a claim?

[autumn onyx]

https://helixapp.com/airdrop/

[glad wigeon]

support claim, sorry

[autumn onyx]

Support claim? You need help with something?

Feel free to ask your question or state your issue.

[glad wigeon]

Ya I believe I should have qualified for the pyth drop

[autumn onyx]

Oh, make sure you meet all the criteria.

[glad wigeon]

did you HAVE to use trading bot?

[autumn onyx]

In one of the allocation options, yes.
In overall airdrop, no.

Main were Spot + Perps + Stake

Trade in Spot & Perpetual markets and stake a minimum of 1 INJ

[glad wigeon]

did both of those before feb 9 and had 60+ inj staked at the time of snapshot, still have more than 1

unless there is some technical that im missing I believe i met the criteria no?

[autumn onyx]

Nope, no technical issue.

Probably something is missing.

What's your INJ address? You can DM.

There won't be any rechecks and if you're ineligible then that can't be changed but can check your address if you wish.

[glad wigeon]

if i am eligible will it make a difference?

[autumn onyx]

If you're eligible then what's the issue ser?

[glad wigeon]

its showing im not eligible lol

[autumn onyx]

Then it means you're ineligible.

:(

[glad wigeon]

I just told you i traded spot and perp before feb 9 and had inj staked lol

[autumn onyx]

Probably volume or something else is missing, but at the end of the day, the snapshot was already taken, the airdrop is already done.

There's nothing we can do now.

[glad wigeon]

lol ok

[silver pier]

I have the same issue, I’ve traded before the snapshot and used the trade bot and staked injective and it’s saying I’m not eligible. Is there some technical issue going on or something I’m missing in the criteria

[autumn onyx]

The snapshot was taken already, the airdrop is already done, there's nothing we can do now.

[silver pier]

The criteria is not clear or missing something. What you can do is do better in the future to be more fair to the community that is supporting you. Clearly from the above I am not the only one who has run into this issue.

[autumn onyx]

Thanks for the feedback, your feedback is valuable to us and we'll make sure to improve the experience in future.

[wintry python]

have nice week!

[night crown]

I missed this one, that is so sad. Really

[harsh vine]

yes

[valid lion]

missed too😭

[autumn onyx]

Better luck next time sers.

[daring crystal]

I heard that tokenstation launch market option is created by helix, can someone explain to me how it works?

[vagrant cedar]

it just creates the market so you can go to something like astroport and add the LP to it

together with the other tools it makes it easier to do every step from the token creation up until the launch of the market so you just pick place to add the LP

[daring crystal]

any minimum or recommendation to add the initial LP?

[vagrant cedar]

that is up to you really just check LPs in astroport and things like that

[woeful gyro]

**Decentralized LVN/INJ Spot Market Listing on Helix **

The LVN/INJ spot market is available on Helix! Levana Protocol is a fully-collateralised perpetual swap platform allowing users to leverage any asset on Injective. LVN is the governance token of Levana.

Helix is the first platform in the Cosmos ecosystem that supports LVN/INJ spot market with limit orders. Anyone can use Helix as a crypto cross-chain trading gateway with zero gas fees, best-in-class security, and lightning-fast speeds.

📚 Read More: https://helixapp.xyz/49iyFzW
🐲 Trade LVN/INJ: https://helixapp.xyz/3xat0yk

[glossy nimbus]

GREAT ...!! 🔥🎉

[wheat swan]

Good afternoon, guys. I have roblema in the airdrop. I can't withdraw my Pyth tokens. I'm saying my Titter isn't valid. Can anyone help?

[hazy fog]

Hard refresh or use twitter.com instead of x.com

[wheat swan]

I'm using.com!

[hazy fog]

Is this on mobile?

[wheat swan]

This appears.

[hazy fog]

need to paste the tweet ulr not your twitter

tweet where you say you are claiming pyth airdrop

[timber pasture]

Yeah - put the exact tweet url not your username.

[wheat swan]

Can you give an example? I don't understand.

[hazy fog]

ctrl+f5 and click on verify, it should pop you a tweet on Twitter, then you paste the URL

[wheat swan]

Click where? On the Twitter page? Or on Helix's website?

[hazy fog]

your twitter is private, make it public

[wheat swan]

If possible, sending a screenshot is easier.

[hazy fog]

can dm

[wheat swan]

I've done it

[tropic helm]

can you check my address? I'm looking rn at my history in spot, perps and grid trading. I definitely used all of them

[hazy fog]

Snapshot and airdrop have already been distributed, nothing we can do now

[main igloo]

ARB/USDT et WMATIC/USDT markets are out of LP bot reward for round 18 ?

[patent heron]

No rewards for these pairs in round 18

[main igloo]

Ok. Only round 18 or is it permanently over ?

[patent heron]

I don't know, each round have different rewards

[main igloo]

Ok thanks

[neat frost]

I have been staking more than 1 fore more than 4 months on helix. from all what I have read, I should absolutely. Could there be something wrong with checker? I would like to verify it for the future trust and use of Helix?

[azure sky]

#🧬︲helix-chat message

[neat frost]

There has been errors in many Claimcheckers

[autumn onyx]

Nope, nothing is wrong with checker, the snapshot for eligible addresses was already taken, if you're eligible then you should be able to claim, if you're not then you won't be able to.

[weary basalt]

Turu

[reef sentinel]

If I have swapped inj to USDe do I need to do anything to earn shards, or just hold? Can't connect Keplr to ethena website.

[autumn onyx]

Just holding is enough.

You can import your Keplr account to Metamask and connect to Ethena.

[reef sentinel]

But don't need to?

[autumn onyx]

Can you please elaborate?

[reef sentinel]

If I don't import my Keplr inj account to MetaMask, I'm earning shards but just can't connect to ethena to see them?

[autumn onyx]

You're correct.

You earn shards whether you connect or not, just holding is enough.

[reef sentinel]

Perfect thanks

[graceful crown]

Where should you have staked for the pyth airdrop? Was directly through keplr a possibility ?

[autumn onyx]

Yeah

[graceful crown]

And for the trading bots, is there something wrong? im receiving the following message: You do not have enough funds.
Show more context

[autumn onyx]

Which pair is this on?

[graceful crown]

Dojo inj

[autumn onyx]

I think it was reported, let me check on status of the issue.

[graceful crown]

hmm must have missed one of the other criteria then, it was necessary to use all the features? I believe i only used, spot trading and trading bots and staked.

[autumn onyx]

Trading on Perpetual markets was also required.

[graceful crown]

Alright, probably missed that one.

[twilit oracle]

Am I the only one for who the orderbook takes ages to load on a pair page ?

[autumn onyx]

Works fine on my end, which pair is this on and which device are you using?

[twilit oracle]

I'm using Brave on a desktop, any pair really, currently the hinj/inj pair

[autumn onyx]

Checked again, loaded fine.

Can you try again with a different connection?

[twilit oracle]

seems related to my connection indeed, on my phone with 5G I load instantly the orderbook and trades but chart takes forever, on my desktop on my house network I load the chart instantly but orderbook and trades take 1 min ... weird

cuz like, my connection is pretty S tier, I only have this issue on helix ..

[frigid kraken]

I use bot pyth/inj and now i cant find where it is in history show stop reason Market conditions not supported, but where is a tokens if it stopped? in account balance there is no tokens but in Account Overview it counted.

[high jewel]

Enable your subaccount management and check in your subaccount

You can do that in the right corner

[frigid kraken]

oh thanks really

why it in suubaccount?

[high jewel]

It's easy for organizing

[frigid kraken]

if there any table of volume on HDRO Trading Competition?

[high jewel]

No, but let me ask for sure

[hallow goblet]

yo i have a question ; after finished trading on my trading bot where i can claim my initial investment ? because i cant find it

[high jewel]

#🧬︲helix-chat message

[hallow goblet]

thank u stefan

[harsh vine]

wow

[autumn vector]

Mods, is there any option to check why I am not eligible in PYTH airdrop even I used many times Helixapp?
Many guys just provided liquidity and used spot and swaps and they was eligible. I did the same and I was not.

[vagrant cedar]

Using perps is the main requirement as PYTH is the oracle used for helix perps

Here's the criteria:

Tier 1 - Trade on spot AND perp AND at least one staked INJ
Tier 2 - Trade on pre-launch futures AND at least one staked INJ
Tier 3 - Trade on spot AND perp AND grid trading bot AND pre-launch futures AND at least one staked INJ

Question
Why perp/pre-launch futures is a must?
Answer
The main usecase for PYTH on Helix right now is providing oracle data for PERPETUAL/Expiry Futures markets.

you cansee here where on each criteria there is no OR you have to meet all of them

swap was not a requirement on any of them

[autumn vector]

Oh, it make sense, thank you so much good sir for your answer.

[vagrant cedar]

anytime

[lean dagger]

Can somebody help me ?
For de Egibility of OLP rewards, when you say "et least 0.25% of the total daily exchange maker volume of eligible markets for 3 days in a row"

It mean that I can choose between all eligible markets, only one pair, and I need to do 0.25% volume of that pair only ?

[sacred basin]

When claim for round 17?

[vagrant cedar]

check back tomorrow

[valid lion]

check

https://twitter.com/bookofninjutsu/status/1772706661825696179?s=19

X

Twitter · Mar 26, 2024, 7:26 PM

$bon

[humble musk]

Arb matic are back round 18

[patent heron]

TY

[patent heron]

cc @main igloo .

[vale orbit]

I want to ask about vault. Let's say I provide 300 USDe into the USDe/USDT vault, does the protocol automatically convert half of the fund into USDT before depositing? Therefore, after the process, I only have 150 USDe (instead of 300 USDe)?

@Riven scam

[patent heron]

I banned him

[patent heron]

Not before, after

[vale orbit]

So my question is: if I participate in the USDe/USDT vault, how much USDe will I have for ethena shard campaign? 300 USDe or 150 USDe?

[patent heron]

depend your deposit. If you deposit 300 so the system will record 300

[vale orbit]

ic... interesting

[vale orbit]

If I only want to supply 300 USDe (and thus participate in ethena lab with 300 USDe), do I need to unclick "allow assets rebalancing before creation"?

[patent heron]

yeah don't click it

[vale orbit]

Thanks!

[lucid matrix]

how can i start swap on helix ? i have inj on 0x....

[patent heron]

go to portfolio and click deposit

[lucid matrix]

portfolio ? Account

[patent heron]

Yeah acount section

[patent heron]

click deposit

[lucid matrix]

it shows 0

[patent heron]

please take a screenshot

[patent heron]

what is your ethreum address I will check

[lucid matrix]

dm you ?ok?

[patent heron]

yes you can

[iron knoll]

What is address of test USDT token on injective testnet?

I want to test launching spot market on testnet.
Please help me.

[autumn onyx]

peggy0x87aB3B4C8661e07D6372361211B96ed4Dc36B1B5

[iron knoll]

Thank you! Where can I find data?

[autumn onyx]

If you're referring to the assets data then: https://testnet.explorer.injective.network/assets/

For mainnet you can check: https://explorer.injective.network/assets/

[iron knoll]

Awesome. Thanks.
One more thing, can you please let me know where I can find oracle providers for markets?

[autumn onyx]

This might help: https://docs.injective.network/develop/modules/Injective/exchange/binary_options_markets/#oracle

If it doesn't then you can ask in #🚀・dev-support as well.

[zealous tinsel]

why this grid is force closed?

[iron knoll]

Thank you!!

[zealous tinsel]

volatile market conditions or not i've margin in this grid auto close grid isn't good for me

[autumn onyx]

The grid bot can be can be stopped sometimes due to various reasons, volatile market conditions is one of them, in such case scenarios the bot are programmed to automatically stop to avoid losses due to high spread or some other factors in such conditions.

[zealous tinsel]

can i stop this function 🙂

[autumn onyx]

Unfortunately that's not possible for now.

You can just start the bot again if you wish.

[harsh vine]

helix

[lean dagger]

Can somebody help me ?
For de Egibility of OLP rewards, when you say "et least 0.25% of the total daily exchange maker volume of eligible markets for 3 days in a row"

It mean that I can choose between all eligible markets, only one pair, and I need to do 0.25% volume of that pair only ?

[sacred basin]

Up ?

[main igloo]

Not yet bro

[modern knoll]

Trying to end a bot but every time it is one of the failures shown above. anyone know what to do?

[main igloo]

Don't you have a window of your wallet already opened with a transaction to validate ?

[modern knoll]

no thats the problem

[main igloo]

Try to close your browser application and then retry

Otherwise disconnect your wallet on helix and reconnect

[modern knoll]

done that like hundret times. I also used different wallets and browsers but it doesn't work with any. Same with disconnecting

[main igloo]

Which wallet do you use ?

[modern knoll]

keplr and leap

[main igloo]

If someone dm you to solve your problem it's probably a scammer

[modern knoll]

yeah ik haha

there is a new message now lol but I don't get it since it is not much money

[main igloo]

But this message is not when you try to end your bot right ?

[modern knoll]

it is

its either the two I posted earlier or that one

[main igloo]

That's weird, usually this message appears when you try to set a bot

[modern knoll]

yeah the whole situation is kinda weird because all the orders from the bot seem to ot exist anymore. When I try to view my open orders nothing shows up

[main igloo]

Sorry I don't know then, if you restarted your browser and disconnect/reconnect I can't help, just wiat that an admin answer you

[modern knoll]

thank you anyway bro

[main igloo]

😉

[modern knoll]

ok maybe it is a problem with the wallet if the transaction's already pending and there is no window where I can sign it. Is it possible to open the extension manually and sign the transaction just like with metamask?

[autumn onyx]

Try with a different browser.

[modern knoll]

I did. Also treid it with mobile wallet but didn't work

[autumn onyx]

Strange, which action are you trying?

[modern knoll]

I'm trying to end a trading bot. HINJ/INJ pair

[autumn onyx]

Hmm, can you try clicking the button to end multiple times in short duration?

This worked for someone else with same issue somehow.

[modern knoll]

I'll try. Actually I ended another bot yesterday with that tactic

[modern knoll]

But do you know if that is possible? Because it just spams that I already have a pending transaction

[autumn onyx]

If it didn't work then your can DM your INJ address, will report the issue.

[modern knoll]

just connected with mm to check if there are transaction calls but its the same issue and no pending transaction I could sign

[gusty iris]

Can we expect a 2nd round of Guilds soon? Or another activity now trade & earn has ended? 👀

[autumn onyx]

Stay tuned for future campaigns and announcements.

[rugged cloud]

Noted

[sacred basin]

What a crack !

[sacred basin]

Up up ?

[autumn onyx]

Check back in 24-48 hours, let us know if you still can't claim.

[main igloo]

Why that long ? Are you finally disqualifying all wash trader ? 🙂

[autumn onyx]

That is a possibility but I don't have information on that.

[main igloo]

Hopefully

[safe scaffold]

Let me know too if you guys can claim the rewards for previous round

[grave mantle]

[humble musk]

How do I convert legacy arb to new one?

[vagrant cedar]

You can do so here https://bridge.injective.network/wormhole-migration

[bitter merlin]

Can I get fragments with usde in my wallet? What else do I need to do?

[vagrant cedar]

Yes just need to hold it to earn shards

[bitter merlin]

Ty bro

[bitter merlin]

Do I have to add liquidity?

[vagrant cedar]

not necessary

[bitter merlin]

So is it so simple for me to use the K wallet to hold USDe？

10x？Wow……

[safe scaffold]

I have WMATIC in my account but when I go to Trade it doesn't show anymore

[vagrant cedar]

Make sure that those w matic are on the main account

[harsh vine]

yeh

[tacit moat]

If I have noble USDC what’s the easiest way to swap to USDe?

Using Keplr wallet

[patent heron]

Only can swap USDE from USDT https://helixapp.com/spot/usde-usdt

[tacit moat]

How do I swap to USDT from Noble USDC?

[patent heron]

Not possible on helix

[tacit moat]

What version of USDT does helix use?

[azure sky]

There is a market for noble usdc on Helix?..

[patent heron]

No ser

[patent heron]

USDT brige from ethreum

https://hub.injective.network/bridge/

[azure sky]

[rain pasture]

This?
https://helixapp.com/spot/usdc-usdt

[patent heron]

My boss please guide me how to trade nobleUSDC on Helix

[azure sky]

please reach out to Noble support

[patent heron]

Thanks ser you saved my life

[iron knoll]

How to get test USDT on testnet?

[autumn onyx]

!faucets

[forest bane]

Faucets for INJ tokens

Receive a small amount of INJ, enough to make 1-2 transactions.

• https://inj.supply/
• https://stakely.io/en/faucet/injective-protocol
• https://bwarelabs.com/faucets/injective-mainnet

For Testnet use: https://testnet.faucet.injective.network/

[autumn onyx]

The testnet faucet also gives you USDT on testnet.

Else you can also swap for it on testnet Helix/Mito.

[iron knoll]

can you send me url of testnet helix ?

[autumn onyx]

!testnet

[forest bane]

Injective Testnet

Injective testnet can be useful in many ways such as testing dApps, deploying test applications, etc.

Here are some useful testnet links:

• Testnet Injective hub: https://testnet.hub.injective.network/
• Testnet Explorer: https://testnet.explorer.injective.network/
• Testnet Helix: https://testnet.helixapp.com/
• Testnet Mito: https://testnet.mito.fi/
• Testnet Faucet: https://testnet.faucet.injective.network/

[iron knoll]

I am not able to swap test INJ for $USDT, it says Invalid Pub Key address

[autumn onyx]

Which wallet are you using?

[iron knoll]

Keplr

If I choose Metamask, it says like this.

[autumn onyx]

Switch to Goerli testnet.

[iron knoll]

Already tried, but no luck

It didn't work on both goerli and sepolia. @autumn onyx

[autumn onyx]

Strange, can you try with Mito?

[iron knoll]

let me try thanks

[iron knoll]

testnet.mito.fi?

[autumn onyx]

Yes. ^^

[main igloo]

Is there a problem with the stop loss feature on the LP bots ? I set a stop loss and asked to settle in USDT. The bot stopped when the price was reached but then it didn’t sell the token in usdt.

[autumn onyx]

It'll settle with whatever's left in the bot's subaccount and stop the the specified stop loss.

[bitter merlin]

I bought usde. What else do I need to do? Is it enough to wait for the airdrop?

[autumn onyx]

Best to ask Ethena about that.

[main igloo]

But I check the case to sell all the token in usdt once stop loss price is reached and it didn't

[autumn onyx]

That's strange, can you please send a screenshot?

[main igloo]

I don't have any. I'll try again and take screeshot

[main igloo]

I just tried on the INJ/USDT market and it worked. But yesterday, on a market with low liquidity it didn't. Maybe it's because of the low liquidity no ?

[autumn onyx]

Not sure tbh.

Which pair was that on?

Will try to replicate the issue and check with team.

[autumn onyx]

Alright, ty.

[iron knoll]

It's same on Mito too. I am not able to swap test INJ for $USDT.

[high jewel]

Can you DM me and help to reproduce issue, please?

[stoic marsh]

Nice

[sullen imp]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-16078907558888063471

Back after getting a 1 week time out for calling out the truth on the changing of airdrop criteria. 😂

[fallen locust]

chat

[tropic haven]

Is the code for the grid trading bots on helix available ? I can't find it on helix github

[rain pasture]

Use #🚀・dev-support for this type of questions

[green maple]

My injective staked amount and corresponding fee discount does not match up? Are there certain validators that don't meet certain aspects/criteria that count? The ones I have chosen are in the active set, with good sign%. Does the sign. % have anything to do with it?

[vagrant cedar]

Can you share your wallet address

[humble musk]

Trade and earn page is empty , is this discontinued?

[vagrant cedar]

No, but no new trade and earn campaign announced yet please stay tunned

[covert basalt]

What wallet you using for inj? Just bought inj in crypto.com yesterday. Im from cronos chain

[vagrant cedar]

You can use metamask leap or keplr

[marble axle]

Super Best DEX

[toxic canyon]

almost any wallet is suitable for this. i use metamask

[wintry python]

the best dax ever

[unkempt yarrow]

nice

[maiden kernel]

what is role gant?

[autumn onyx]

Can you please elaborate?

[maiden kernel]

i mean, how i get warrior role?

[autumn onyx]

!warrior

[forest bane]

How to become a Warrior?

Warrior is an entry-level ninja who has learned the basics. To become a Warrior:
1️⃣ Reach level 5 on Discord by participating in conversations
2️⃣ Add a Ninja emoji 🥷 next to your Twitter & Discord names
3️⃣ When you get the Warrior role for 1 month and feel ready, complete the Ninja Masters Application to level up your rank and become a Knight. You will need to provide a list of 🛠｜tasks you have completed: https://injective.typeform.com/ninjamasters

[marble axle]

It would be convenient to have a button to convert all small coin balances into INJ

[autumn onyx]

Thanks for your suggestion.

[lone eagle]

What happen on xninja?

Why I can't repay?

[high jewel]

How do you mean?

[vague otter]

You can reach out to them sir

https://discord.gg/xninja

[rancid jungle]

If i may ask..... what is Helix?

[vagrant cedar]

!helix

[forest bane]

About Helix 🧬

Helix is a premier decentralized order book exchange for trading derivatives and spot markets built on Injective. Helix features zero gas fees, best-in-class security, lightning-fast speeds, cross-chain assets, and market leading rebates (up to -1bps).

💻 Trading: https://helixapp.com/
🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/helixapp_
📲 Telegram: https://t.me/helixapp
📚 Guide: http://helixapp.xyz/3loTDKf

[vague otter]

Also You can explore more @ #⚡︲about-injective

[rancid jungle]

Cool, got it. Will read throuh it. Thanks

[vague otter]

That’s awesome 🤩

You can always give feedback on all dapps you try out sir #💗︲suggestions-feedback

[rancid jungle]

Will do with pleasure!

[vague otter]

🥷🫡

[snow stirrup]

ok

[reef sigil]

arb/usdt ?

[high jewel]

You mean?

[main igloo]

A lot of addresses appeared magically in a few hours in the leaderboard of ARB/USDT LP reward. I checked their transaction and they are wash trading. Will the team do something about that ? Is it allowed ? Otherwise everyone should know and do the same. Here are the suspicious addresses (and they belong to the same person as they give the funds from one address to another) ;

inj1mh5hetrwac7ersn4cj6482pgnzkgfqkzrv9c64
inj1jp6k6pvx20rvy0yrgqyczf9pkt7g8u0gft3l52
inj1yxkk8g2qw8muyfsr6a6qyukw2hmvevpq3avj5m
inj1m3nm6ln0z7dhunre49vwt58ttzwdsz8xjxtzrt
inj176atvrmjpdkpmxz2r0lh4zzeywe8q6lhr208pn
inj1ygcu2lmjjtquqzvqqpks7edqys6649trrhdlv2

And they do the same on many pairs

[high jewel]

Let me report it to product team

[main igloo]

Let us know if it’s allowed

[sacred basin]

Yes please let us know if it allowed that we can do the same . Is it really unfair for those who play the game , but just just confirm to us that it is allowed to wash trade and we will do it as well…

I noticed that too, they even are on WMATIC/USDT LP Bot. They should be disqualified, they have done it since a few weeks.

[solid depot]

we need ondo on helix

[dawn root]

👍🏼

[nocturne ravine]

You guys receive the PYTH airdrop?

[valid lion]

yeeee 🙂

unexpected and juicy for using helix months ago. think ill farm the airdrop again 😉

what is wash trading btw?

[vagrant cedar]

Buying and selling for the sake of farming volume

[valid lion]

HAHA i did this on aevo some times. next to real trading. lost 200 bugs. and didnt get the airdrop 😄

so yeah, wouldnt bne suprised if helix is filtering these guys out aswell.

[main igloo]

Hopefully 🙏

[wooden pilot]

They aren't🥺

[azure sky]

[wooden pilot]

Why crying? 😿

[azure sky]

Injetif poump Wen

[wooden pilot]

It's been long ns

[azure sky]

haha ya

[wooden pilot]

You just didn't know

[final valve]

I have a problem with helix. I amt rying to start a liquid staking. However, when I select the funds and confirm, I get the error saying there is not sufficient funds to execute the first transaction and in the error the EVM wallet is mentioned. What is the required thing to do here? no one helped out in TG group, so I am asking in here.

[autumn onyx]

Replied you in Telegram group and in #🆘︲help-and-support-old

[desert cradle]

Hi guys

[errant plinth]

HDRO/INJ a computer program is error trading frequently

[autumn onyx]

Please provide more details.

[errant plinth]

a ask is placed, less than 0.5 second, the order is filled

now 2 second, a trading is recorded

At the moment, the program is trading frequently

flash trading using program, cannot do by human hand

[topaz compass]

When launch HYDRO CEX

[autumn onyx]

Best to ask Hydro.

[topaz compass]

Okay Thanks

[nocturne ravine]

You guys that were elegible for the airdrop WHERE did you staked you INJ?

[rugged pewter]

What airdrop?

[rugged pewter]

You mean Pyth?

[nocturne ravine]

Yes Sir!

[rugged pewter]

You had to trade pyth pairs on helix to be eligible and stake to any validator

[safe scaffold]

ohh so this is why my rewards in arb went down a lot

[inland geyser]

There's a new pyth airdrop?

[autumn onyx]

Yes, you can check here:

• https://helixapp.com/airdrop
  Read more about it here: https://helixapp.xyz/4coywNN

[inland geyser]

[zealous dawn]

Can someone help me please I cannot close a perpetual trade on the helix app due to a gas error

[high jewel]

Can you send me the UI error?

[zealous dawn]

as in a screenshot?

[high jewel]

Yes, please

[zealous dawn]

@high jewel

[high jewel]

Can you make hard refresh, clean your browser cookies and try again, please?

[zealous dawn]

still not working

[high jewel]

Can you DM me to help me to reproduce issue please?

I'm trying on my end and everything works

[primal hamlet]

Excellent support

[high jewel]

No worries, it's already reported with full details

[drowsy gull]

i have a complaint regarding a problem im experiencing using the injective bridge.. who do i reach out to?

[glossy nimbus]

you can ask in #🆘︲help-and-support-old

[vivid pond]

Will solana traffic clear soon ?

[high jewel]

How do you mean? If you have question for Solana network, re-direct it to Solana suport team

[vivid pond]

I wanted to bridge with the new site before heading to helix

Hub says : solana traffic congestion

[elfin depot]

I swapped some INJ into hINJ on helix (via hydro's website). I got the hINJ but it's not in my wallet (on helix I suppose) but I can't find how to transfer to my wallet. Thanks in advance

[vagrant cedar]

Can you please try connecting your wallet to https://hub.injective.network/wallet and check if you see your hINJ there?

[elfin depot]

I do, so then I need to convert to CW20?

[vagrant cedar]

yeah you do

[elfin depot]

great, thanks

[main igloo]

Yes that's why. This guy must have seen the messages, since then he is quiet and sent a good part of his funds to other addresses that I monitor. I'll give all the evidence to the team so he'll be disqualify and/or ban

[humble yoke]

Hi! Can somebody help me? I can’t understand something. 4 days ago I uploaded the LVN/INJ trading bot for testing, yesterday everyone ordered profit/loss, today I log in to the bot, there is no such thing in the history (see screenshot), Question, where is my liquidity that I uploaded? There is no bot, my wallet is empty

[hazy fog]

Sometimes, market conditions can prevent us from creating SGT bots. To protect your investments, our bots are designed to pause if market liquidity or spreads are unfavorable. We’re working on the following improvements:

• Clearer error messages: To better explain the situation.
• Steps you can take: To help prevent these errors.
• A new SGT version: Optimized for markets with lower volume.

[humble yoke]

Thank you @hazy fog . In this case, since the bot is stopped, why can't I manage my liquidity, where is it? If the bot is paused or stopped, then in theory I can redistribute the liquidity or remove the bot based on my goals, right?

[worn valley]

salut

[sacred basin]

Really, thery are going to get banned ?

[main igloo]

Hopefully. It’s up to the team to decide. But I think at least disqualify for the round in which they use wash trading. It would be fair regarding all the others that are providing real liquidity. Don’t know what you guys think about all that … as the team was disqualifying people doing that in T&E they must do the same here.

[sacred basin]

I completely agree

but will it be done? 🤷‍♂️

[south flume]

Is ths the right chat for Helix support

[hazy fog]

yeap, what's up

[south flume]

I have a recurring issue with the trading bot on Helix. I am using Matic / USDT and i can't remove the strategy. It keeps saying invalid - one transaction pending. It has been running for 1 month now.

I messaged previously, thought it was soughted, unfortunately still stuck

inj1c4g8ke9qvldyz5867p989094cy0enf83dp33pq

[hazy fog]

I'll have a look

[hazy fog]

i don't see any open positions/bots on both of your accounts

[bitter merlin]

Can I get ENA today?

[autumn onyx]

Please provide more context.

[safe scaffold]

whats up helix fam... or should I say what's down?

[autumn onyx]

Best to go to #🐳・degen-chat if you're looking to discuss regarding market.

[safe scaffold]

its about my trading bots

[safe scaffold]

btw i was wondering why round 18 hasn't ended yet?

[autumn onyx]

There is no particular schedule as to when these campaigns go live. They go live when the team launches them. Once the campaign is live you can start getting rewards. There is no commitment that a campaign has to start immediately after the last one or start at all. We are evaluating on each epoch and make decisions based on analysis, this process is not automated.

[main igloo]

We will see but it would be really unfair and bad for the community if they didn't.

[limpid heron]

Sir please please help me I loss my fund 🥺 please help me

[main igloo]

Did you search in your subaccounts ?

[woven rain]

@winged marsh For the hdro competition the volume that count is the volume in USD or the volume in INJ ?

[livid eagle]

How do you opt out of trade and earn?
Is there a simpler way

[vagrant cedar]

not really

[livid eagle]

Why does it have to be complicated?

Is there a simple breakdown of how to do it

[vagrant cedar]

You have an example here in TypeScript

https://docs.trading.injective.network/rewards/open-liquidity-program-olp/eligibility

the other ones are not working just reported them

[hazy fog]

https://x.com/HelixApp_/status/1775286619437772824?s=20

Helix 🧬 (@HelixApp_) on X

🔥 $W is coming to Helix

Helix will be a key liquidity venue for the $W launch, with $W - $USDT as the flagship pair across the Injective ecosystem

Tomorrow, April 3rd.

https://t.co/qQKD6iK6qQ

Twitter · Apr 2, 2024, 10:18 PM

[errant plinth]

@hazy fog Can bridge $W to injective ?

[south flume]

I have a recurring issue with the trading bot on Helix. I am using Matic / USDT and i can't remove the strategy. It keeps saying invalid - one transaction pending. It has been running for 1 month now.

[unborn sparrow]

Have you tried clearing cache and reconnect wallet ?

[autumn onyx]

If the above doesn't work then let me know.

Also please block and report any private messages you may get, they are scammers

[main igloo]

The owner of these addresses created new addresses to start again. Just few hours ago he did some wash trading on WMATIC/USDT pair.
Here are his two new addresses :
inj1ralnmplaa9drvlhaeuyfh6r4z2zxjv7ghdxclh
inj1c55yhj2nej3tv0gwdnmakrmn8aynhpg3q0hkhy

[sacred basin]

Again and again again

[sacred basin]

When is claim for lp?

[south flume]

how do i clear the cache?

[autumn onyx]

CTRL + F5

[safe scaffold]

If this is real then I hope the devs do something

[thorn canopy]

I accidently bridged pyth to my ledger and now i can't bridge it back and i can't sell it on helix. Is there a way i can sell my pyth on helix with my ledger?

[autumn onyx]

You can simply connect your Ledger directly to Helix and then use the trading pairs on Helix to trade it.

[thorn canopy]

i keep getting this error when connecting directly with my ledger

[autumn onyx]

Make sure you open your Ethereum app before connecting.

[thorn canopy]

Ahh that's it! Thanks alot

[harsh vine]

wow

[sacred basin]

no answer?

[vagrant cedar]

please check back tomorrow

[humble musk]

Yeah me 2 think this should be stoped

[main igloo]

He emptied these two addresses today, he must be on discord. He still has 2 other active addresses that I monitor.
Unfortunatly he is not the only person doing that, there is at least two other guys :

One with these addresses :
inj174fek8mfy7l9rga40jpv7qnjeynda6079wmds2
inj1jd6w5fpufg6vuaulkyyjnstlz5ljl0necmhkfp

And another one with these addresses :
inj13mzrtu5k33tv2nyj2gv8d22w827m0663u7umyt
inj1kraelmfp05c3cvzfk5eqhsjehhcsnwhngcrmfr

Maybe the team can take a look at them too, they have been wash trading during the past couple weeks.

[humble musk]

Can I cross W from sol to injective?

[hazy fog]

yes

you mean bridge right

[humble musk]

Yes using hub?

[hazy fog]

yeap

https://hub.injective.network/bridge

[humble musk]

Cool thanks I will trade W here

[humble musk]

Look like SOL is congested because of W

[golden monolith]

i have a question about oracle price, MsgRelayPriceFeedPrice will update the onchain Oracle price, but who will call this function and update the price ?

[autumn onyx]

You can ask in #💻︲api-support or #🚀・dev-support

[broken pendant]

I can't go long on $DYM on Helix app, yet.

Let's get this soon.

[simple briar]

How can i get it?

[inland pond]

get what?

[errant plinth]

It is great to trade options on helix, like in us stock market

[autumn onyx]

[south flume]

i can't see my request from earlier.

Is this still the best place for Helix support?

[autumn onyx]

Yes

If you recieve any private messages or friend requests then that is a scammer.

So block them.

[south flume]

thought so, i never direct message

I had an issue removing the wmatic trading bot. It has now been removed after weeks of trying. However it is not in my history anywhere and i am not sure if the funds were transferred to my overall balance.

[autumn onyx]

The funds will go to the subaccount for the trading bot which is associated with your address.

You can go to the top right of Helix and enable subaccount management and then go to account tab to transfer them to main account.

[south flume]

when i look at all my past trading bot history, it is not there

[autumn onyx]

Can you send a screenshot?

Your INJ address as well.

[sacred basin]

Nice work mate ! Let’s hope the team will take care of them, it’s really unfair

[sacred basin]

Are we tomorrow yet ?🥸

[outer vale]

Tomorrow is always tomorrow ser, so check back tomorrow.

Anyways the claim opens up after a while anyways so just check back later bro.

[thorny kayak]

Hey fam, what's good

[strong parrot]

When can I claim reeard of round 18 ?
thanks

[high jewel]

It's already round 19 - https://helixapp.com/lp-rewards/dashboard

[sacred basin]

Check back next month🥸

[strong parrot]

So reward is not possible to claim now?

[high jewel]

Only for Round 19

[strong parrot]

button is not active for round 18 ....

[high jewel]

Because Round 18 ended

Let me ask if you can claim now

[south flume]

inj1c4g8ke9qvldyz5867p989094cy0enf83dp33pq

[vagrant cedar]

the bot was stopped
You can go to the account page and you will see your funds in the respective sub account.

You can enable sub account management on the top right and then you can move your funds to the main account

[south flume]

This is the history of my trading bots, it doesn't show the last one that ran for 1 month - wmatic ( would of been removed 2 days ago )

i have no history of that bot or money transferred in the past 2 days back into the sub account.. where is the transfer recorded? Are you able to look into where it will appear?

[marble axle]

Wen gold, silver? And commodities

[terse ridge]

Round 18 claims are not yet activated for me too. It was never so late. We were usually claiming on Tuesdays. I hope everything is okay.

[vagrant cedar]

please stay tunned for an official update on this

[obsidian crypt]

Will there be more airdrop? How much could you earn from the pyth drop?

[vagrant cedar]

ill be reporting it please bear with me ill ping you when i get an answer on it

[vagrant cedar]

it is just a delay thanks for being patient

[vagrant cedar]

will need to wait for them to be announced

[terse ridge]

Wow trading commodities would be great with Helix fees. I have been looking for an app with reasonable fees.👍

[harsh vine]

helix

[balmy yarrow]

Anyone having trouble accessing helix? Just keeps trying to load.

[hazy fog]

yeap, reported, will keep you guys updated!

Sorry for the inconveniences

Should be back

[safe scaffold]

[sacred basin]

Are we tomorrow ?

[autumn onyx]

Please check back in a while.

[gusty iris]

Claiming LP rewards worked for me! Thanks team 🔥

[sacred basin]

Me too 🎆🎇

[tropic lintel]

what is the volume of 1st on hdro prize list?

[tropic lintel]

how can I see them

[high jewel]

I'm not sure if there is option for that

[heady hornet]

😍

[fervent kernel]

Done

[hot robin]

inj black

[wintry python]

good

[valid lion]

nice

[autumn onyx]

What's your INJ address? Will check with team.

[dry halo]

did anyone receive pyth airdrop too ? where do i locate my pyth ? tks !

[autumn onyx]

If you claimed then you'll see them on the wallet page of Injective hub.

If you didn't claim then you can do so from: https://helixapp.com/airdrop

[dry halo]

i saw it thank you!

[main igloo]

Any info on that ?

[vagrant cedar]

Let me check

[maiden kernel]

helix

[uncut knot]

2hat is this

[forest bane]

About Helix 🧬

Helix is a premier decentralized order book exchange for trading derivatives and spot markets built on Injective. Helix features zero gas fees, best-in-class security, lightning-fast speeds, cross-chain assets, and market leading rebates (up to -1bps).

💻 Trading: https://helixapp.com/
🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/helixapp_
📲 Telegram: https://t.me/helixapp
📚 Guide: http://helixapp.xyz/3loTDKf

[main igloo]

I still have the same issue, no new order once triggered

[subtle quail]

galxe campaign on helix or something to helix ?

[autumn onyx]

Helix doesn't have any ongoing Galxe campaigns at the moment.

[subtle quail]

ok

and about trading bot ?

[autumn onyx]

Yes, there's LP rewards campaign going on.

https://helixapp.com/lp-rewards

[uncut knot]

is there tasks system still running

[high jewel]

Can you be more specific?

[uncut knot]

can we still earn rewards through helix

[high jewel]

https://helixapp.com/ -> You can see "Rewards" button

click there for more info

[uncut knot]

oky

[high jewel]

It's reported so stay tuned

[topaz compass]

Now HDRO showing on okx wallet

[wintry python]

excellent

[maiden kernel]

what is hdro?

[autumn onyx]

A token on Injective network.

[maiden kernel]

what is helix

[high jewel]

https://helixapp.com

[high jewel]

Helix is a decentralized exchange application built on Injective.

Pioneering as the premier decentralized order book exchange for crypto spot and derivatives trading, Helix serves novice crypto traders, experienced traders, and trading institutions alike. It features a simple interface, with the ability to also place complex orders on both spot and derivatives markets, to help bring crypto to the masses.

[storm flower]

What are the benefits to use it than any other ?

[autumn onyx]

Helix stands out in many aspects such as it utilises the fully decentralized on chain orderbook and the exchange module to execute the trades in the backend as well as featuring extensive features such as the grid trading bots, pre launch futures also having amazing campaigns such as LP Rewards, Trade & Earn, Helix Guilds, and much more! Helix also has fee discounts based on your staking and charges zero gas fees for your trades, and 60% of whatever fees you might pay will go into burn auction basket to be auctioned off and purchased back with INJ which will be burned to directly help the growth of INJ and reduce the overall supply.

[sacred basin]

Round 19 still running?

[autumn onyx]

There is no particular schedule as to when these campaigns go live. They go live when the team launches them. Once the campaign is live you can start getting rewards. There is no commitment that a campaign has to start immediately after the last one or start at all. We are evaluating on each epoch and make decisions based on analysis, this process is not automated.

[autumn onyx]

Likely ended already.

[sacred basin]

No because I am still losing rewards

[autumn onyx]

Let me ask for sure.

[autumn onyx]

It should be round 20 now.

[sacred basin]

yep !

[maiden kernel]

ninja here

[worldly ridge]

When Dojo eco trade on Helix ? 👀

[autumn onyx]

Stay tuned for any new markets launching.

[harsh vine]

almost

[covert storm]

🕵️

[safe scaffold]

[haughty rampart]

Will there be an airdrop?

[autumn onyx]

There was recently a PYTH airdrop from Helix.

• Check your eligibility: https://helixapp.com/airdrop/
• Read more: https://helixapp.xyz/4coywNN

[sacred basin]

When can the wash traders claim their rewards for round 19 ?

[safe scaffold]

i cant end any of my bot

[autumn onyx]

Lemme report, thanks for bringing this up.

[autumn onyx]

Can you try again?

[safe scaffold]

yea its now working

[harsh vine]

hehe

[vital swan]

Is there a set wait period or schedule to claim an ended round's LP reward? Or is the ability to claim rewards based on a variable?

[high jewel]

When the round ends, you can make a claim for a certain period

[vital swan]

Hmmm. I still haven't been able to claim round 19's LP rewards

[sacred basin]

When Claim ?

[high jewel]

Let me ask for more info

[wintry atlas]

HInj lp

[main igloo]

Once again, these 4 addresses belonging to the same person and wash trading, as said many time. Just sayin hoping that someday they will be banned :
inj174fek8mfy7l9rga40jpv7qnjeynda6079wmds2
inj1jd6w5fpufg6vuaulkyyjnstlz5ljl0necmhkfp
inj13mzrtu5k33tv2nyj2gv8d22w827m0663u7umyt
inj1kraelmfp05c3cvzfk5eqhsjehhcsnwhngcrmfr

[humble musk]

@main igloo once again I support your efforts

[sacred basin]

Once again nothing is done…

[wintry python]

I provided liquidity ther since the last year, and for me its not so good...

[vagrant cedar]

The main eligibility criteria was to have traded perps as pyth is the oracle used there

[wintry python]

its make sense now

[zealous widget]

I just did a swap into USDT. Why can't I see it in my wallet? I'm using Keplr.

[regal plover]

You need to add pretty much everything on keplr. Try to add the token using this: peggy0xdAC17F958D2ee523a2206206994597C13D831ec7

https://explorer.injective.network/asset/?tokenType=erc20&denom=peggy0xdAC17F958D2ee523a2206206994597C13D831ec7

[zealous widget]

Is there a better wallet?

[regal plover]

I personally use mostly leap, but they all have their pros/cons. You can see more here:
https://docs.injective.network/learn/basic-concepts/wallets

[zealous widget]

thanks!

[zealous widget]

It's weird, I can see something called USDT.peggy. But when I try to bridge with wormhole, it doesn't recognize that as USDT. Why?

My plan was to swap some INJ --> USDT: Bridge to Coinbase sell.
So far, I swapped to USDT.Peggy and the bridges don't recognize this USDT.
Not sure what to do next.

[regal plover]

You can use Ethereum (Peggy) bridge on the Injective Hub: https://hub.injective.network/bridge/

[zealous widget]

ok, giving that a try

[safe scaffold]

what pair do they usually wash trade? arb or wmatic?

I guess the wash trader do the small onces because he will be crushed when he goes to WETH, ATOM, or the big volume pairs.

[zealous widget]

looks like its going to work. Though I had to bridge back into ETH L1....which I hate doing 🤢

[safe scaffold]

wen round 19 claim?

each week we are getting more delayed 😢

[sacred basin]

When Claim

[gusty iris]

I’m curious how you can find these wallets washtrading. The whole injective explorer is a mystery to me and much harder to find anything than etherscan for example 🫣

[sacred basin]

There is no secret on the blockchain

[safe scaffold]

wen claim (2)

[autumn onyx]

Should be available soon, check back in about ~24 hours and if they are still not available to claim then let us know.

[safe scaffold]

thanks, Lahn!

[sacred basin]

Exactly what a wash trader would say . I see you Skyfield 👀

[gusty iris]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gif-5332537

[main igloo]

Yes he is the one using these addresses :

inj174fek8mfy7l9rga40jpv7qnjeynda6079wmds2
inj1jd6w5fpufg6vuaulkyyjnstlz5ljl0necmhkfp
inj13mzrtu5k33tv2nyj2gv8d22w827m0663u7umyt
inj1kraelmfp05c3cvzfk5eqhsjehhcsnwhngcrmfr

He used to be against wash traders but I guess now he is one of them, maybe he was « against » to be the only one doing that

Team really need to take care of that, really

[gusty iris]

This is false information. Seems like you are accusing anyone based on your own feelings because you want to keep all the rewards yourself

[outer vale]

Sounds like something a wash trader would say.

[main igloo]

I don’t care about the reward, just care about what is fair

[gusty iris]

And you just happen to gain the most when these ‘washers’ get banned 🤔

[main igloo]

There is always someone who gain the most, in each pair

I don’t mind not being the 1st if other one play by the rules

[gusty iris]

Yeah that’s you, when innocent traders are getting banned while you can keep all the rewards for yourself

[main igloo]

I don’t ban anyone, just provide evidence to the team and then they decide

[gusty iris]

I’m sure the team does the right thing in case your information is correct. But based on what you’re saying here, you are likely to be very wrong

[main igloo]

If you say so

[sacred basin]

I hope they do ! It is quite easy to find out if you are a wash trader

[gusty iris]

Taking rewards from other honest bot users would only benefit him the most since he doesn’t like competition

[safe scaffold]

you're a whale 🤯

[safe scaffold]

is helix dead? its stuck on loading screen. Tried phone and laptop but same results. Also tried wifi and mobile data but same results too.

[high jewel]

it's fine on my end

[safe scaffold]

😢

[high jewel]

Can you clean your browser cookies

make hard refresh and check again

[safe scaffold]

tried both of that and got the same results. Tried using a different tablet and its still giving error. I'll try again in a few mins 😦

[cosmic egret]

check DM Sir pls

[safe scaffold]

[vestal kindle]

I tried everything but nothing works

[high jewel]

What doesn't work?

Can you explain more?

[harsh vine]

@vestal kindlecalm

[static schooner]

I have a problem
I Get a trading bot two month already
trade Inj but have not revards
what is the mistake ?

[outer vale]

set one from lp bots page, not that page

[winged cedar]

I want a Ninja pass lol

[autumn onyx]

Keep lookout for campaigns within ecosystem to have a chance to win one.

[simple briar]

If i reached on ninjas, what is next?

[autumn onyx]

You can then grind to become a Warrior and once you are a Warrior you can try to stand out among other Warriors and you shall receive Knighthood.

[grim garden]

[static schooner]

Don’t understand you, can you show me ?

[harsh vine]

heli

[wintry python]

have a great week everyone

[outer vale]

https://helixapp.com/trading-bots/liquidity-bots/spot

[main igloo]

Few minutes ago these two addresses wash traded (again) on DOJO/INJ pair :
inj174fek8mfy7l9rga40jpv7qnjeynda6079wmds2
inj1jd6w5fpufg6vuaulkyyjnstlz5ljl0necmhkfp

[autumn onyx]

Thanks for reporting.

[main igloo]

We cannot tag the person who owns these addresses ?

[autumn onyx]

WIll forward these as well, as for discussions you can take them to #🐳・degen-chat

[main igloo]

No need for discussion, had them in private with him. But you should do something as everyone knows what's happening and as there is no actions, he still does it under everyone nose. It's crazy haha

[main igloo]

And now he moved to the ARB/USDT pair. You can report that as well

[sacred basin]

Lets all wash trade guys as it seems to be allowed

[autumn onyx]

[sacred basin]

We have a guy here providing evidences like very clear evidences and nothing is done , never

[autumn onyx]

Yep, thanks for all that.
We are working on a better wash detection system but there is no ETA right now.

[main igloo]

And now that he did what he had to do on ARB he is going to KUJI. What will be next ??

[autumn onyx]

The end.

Soon.

[main igloo]

I invite you to check the KUJI market Lahn, it's crazy

[main igloo]

The end of what ? wash trading ?

[autumn onyx]

Hope so: #🧬︲helix-chat message

[main igloo]

And in the meantime ? We can wash trade ?

Cause in the T&E program there was no wash trading detection system but when there was evidence against someone he was disqualified and the rewards set to 0. Why isn't the same thing here ?

[autumn onyx]

The team checks these time to time as well and the wash traders are filtered out, I have forwarded the evidence you have provided to the team but that's the most I can do from my side.

[main igloo]

What does the team check ? The evidence I gave you ? Cause since 3-4 days and all the evidence I gave against the 4 addresses he is still doing it and especially today while we speak.
If there is one evidence of an unfair behaviour/wash trading, the address should be ban immediatly, and the team have the tools to do so.

[autumn onyx]

Can you send me everything again? Including addresses, transaction hashes, screenshot or any other evidence you might have, also anything else you might want to share.

[main igloo]

Ok, I'll send you a DM

[main igloo]

And now inj1jd6w5fpufg6vuaulkyyjnstlz5ljl0necmhkfp and inj174fek8mfy7l9rga40jpv7qnjeynda6079wmds2 are empty, if that's not suspicious ...

[main igloo]

As soon as you asked me the evidence he emptied everything haha

[sharp vector]

why is helix not loading?

[vagrant cedar]

Helix is having issues atm and the team is working on it '

[vagrant cedar]

try again let me know if it works for you

[drowsy forge]

can someone help me,i just wanna swap my Inj in Celestia to Injective and then i’ve got this problem:

[vagrant cedar]

so you are on Helix app trying to swap Celestia for INJ?

[drowsy forge]

yes,after i click on “Swap” it comes

[vagrant cedar]

how much are you trying to swap

[vagrant cedar]

the issue is the amount is too small for the swap

[drowsy forge]

so what should i do?

[vagrant cedar]

you need to try with more tia

bridge more tia

[drowsy forge]

the problem doesn’t go away

[vagrant cedar]

send another screenshot

[drowsy forge]

I did this before and I remember throwing 0.1 Tia and everything worked out for me, but here I already threw 0.212 and still this problem still worries me

[vagrant cedar]

you can't trade less than 1 tia

[drowsy forge]

no way

where i can look my swap activity?

[vagrant cedar]

https://explorer.injective.network/

[drowsy forge]

here u can see i did that

[vagrant cedar]

one moment

which wallet are you using

[drowsy forge]

Keplr

[vagrant cedar]

ok just a moment let me try

i was able to swap .2 tia without an issue please send me a screenshot of the swap on dms

[eternal ferry]

h

[granite burrow]

Good afternoon. Please tell me how to become a member of the community here? That’s what it says in the project. Galxe, the tasks of this project are described exactly like this

[vagrant cedar]

if you want the ninja role you already have it

[granite burrow]

Thanks

[hushed tusk]

is there an airdrop coming on Helix?

[autumn onyx]

No information about the future ones but recently there was this one: https://helixapp.com/airdrop/

[hushed tusk]

ty for the quick answer

[main igloo]

I can't wait to claim the rewards and check if one of the addresses of the wash traders are able to. With everything the team asked me and that I gave, if one of these addresses is allowed to claim then it's clear and everybody should know : that means that wash trading is allowed.

I'm waiting and I'll be checking

[frozen cove]

Helix & Injective are your employer, you are whale & have many accounts farming the 1st of lp rewards, so don't challenge your employer.

[frozen cove]

Respect Helix & you should thank helix for the opportunity.

[main igloo]

I'm grateful to Injective/Helix and respect them (even thought they are not my employer), but I don't want the roles to be reversed and me made out to be a villain when all I'm doing is denouncing unfair and forbidden behaviour.
@frozen cove : You just arrived on the server today, I'm quite surprised by your clear-cut opinion ...