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Yes, you'll find the transaction there
thanks
the line that says transaction send from.. to : Injective Protocol: INJ Token, i suppose?
Yeah
cool! 11 days then hehehe
please support my proposal: 316 (WETH/BNB). I'm really hoping it will pass, having a lot of faith in this pair, thank you all in advance!
@vagrant plank i think can help π
have some time, so i'm voting on latest proposals now;) if anyone can help with the #P331 COMP/USDT? π & @vagrant plank π
thanks alot for your support and trust!
Please deposit some spare KINJ to my proposal #P333 - OCEAN/MKR Spot Market
done!
much gratitude guys!
Please deposit some spare KINJ to my proposal #P333 - OCEAN/MKR Spot Market
I read at some point that all voting proposals will be passed? If they are in order of course
done!
i'm going through all proposals now and might as well vote on all. It would be nice to be able to open each one in a separate tab instead of click the back button
doing the same hahaha π
Done
i don't understand anything about the YES and Noes though: going through voting proposals I see the addresses for yes but not the ones for no (for proposals that got nos)..??
There's currently an issue with No/Abstain votes. Team is looking into it
ok...that looked strange.. and isn't there an issue about the INJ amount when you vote ? (i see mine sometimes correct, sometimes wrong..
Hi guys, can you please vote my proposal, thanks in advance #P307 - INJ/LIT
@kind flare please DM me, I need your help.
@primal terrace hey, any chance anyone from the team can help with the voting proposals?
As far as I know it's only an issue for No/Abstain. Yes votes are counted correctly
They'll vote for your proposals as soon as they join guys, be patient
What's the issue?
Awesome. Thanks πͺ
no, another issue, ometime i see the right amount on my vote, sometimes i see very much less (in INJ)..?
Thanks a lot, you are a saviour π
I need INJs to deposit my proposal
So when you vote for yes, sometimes the votes are not corresponding to the delegated amount but sometimes they do?
exact
Okay then, Bojan will probably look into it as soon as he can
You can ask him when he joins, he is probably busy working right now π
hope it helps, thanks!
I don't have godmode frens. I would certainly help you if I could 
Thanks @primal terrace really appreciate the helpπ
Guys 2 questions:
- Is there a way to revert a proposal before it expire?
- I did 2 proposals 3 days ago and now they are expired (not passed), but I can't see my INJ anymore? where are them? π€
Hey, not sure about the first one but read here about the second one: #πγ»dev-support message
If your proposals didn't pass the tokens got burnt but that doesn't affect the rewards in the end, as the injective chain balance won't be taken into consideration
Thanks, hope that someone could answer my first question, cause I would like to change it. In short meanwhile I was adding a new Denom someone have added the same and that pair is already in the voting tab π€¦ββοΈ
yes, i think there should be a warning when you propose a pair that's already there or going in, no?
i give a little up for my #P331 COMP/USDT if anyone can help on the vote? π
unfortunately no, I was able to add the new Denom, but than I checked and the same token was already used for a proposal 30 min before mine was added
I haven't refreshed my page, maybe that's why I was able to add the same token π€·ββοΈ
Even though duplicate pairs can be created only one of them can be accepted in the voting stage. The team will utilize a filtering mechanism upon mainnet π
Yeah I knew that, what I was trying to say is that I was able to create the same denom that another guy created 30 min before me, and the creation was successful (not just the proposal, even the denom)
So you got a successful message output but no duplicate denom on the list?
yes
Okay, I'll let Bojan know π
This is an issue with Kovan. People can deploy any ERC20 contract with any name and it will accept it. So you maybe created a market with the same ticker as other person but the denoms can be different assets.
Mainnet wont have this functionality. The denoms will be created when users transfer actual assets from Ethereum Network to our Injective Chain
Good to know that, thanks for the clarification π do you have an answer to my first question "- Is there a way to revert a proposal before it expire" ?
even on mainnet people can make erc20 tokens with the same ticker as existing big mc tokens. this problem is part of why we have governance behind this in the first place. it's really hard to pass a fraudulent market
True, the difference is that Kovan is free and on mainnet you need ~0
25-0.3 eth to deploy it xD
Nope
Hello @kind flare , my proposal 156 didn't get enough INJ to pass to voting, now I can not find it on the list, I guess there is a time limit for it to pass. Anyway I did deposit 500INJ on it. Where are those INJ gone? Will they reflect back to our wallet?
Hey
Read here: #πγ»dev-support message
If your proposals didn't pass the tokens got burnt but that doesn't affect the rewards in the end, as the injective chain balance won't be taken into consideration
The team also minted 1000 KINJ for each wallet and sent them over due to this token burn, to allow members continue testing governance π
OMG, then I lost them. Yes, I put them on a new proposal, if they pass will they come back? Now I have almost all my INJ on 2 voting proposals
Well the team is passing all proposals that go into the voting stage so you will probably get them back to continue testing
Great, this is really great to have this testing to learn about how will we work once mainnet comes. Thanks π
Can everyone access the staking Testnet? Haven't been able to for the last 5 mins: "Access Denied. This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it.."
no probs for me atm
are you just refreshing on a proposal url?
Yeah, that's because the page is not static. You have to go to the governance page and click on it
Check here: #π§¬οΈ²helix-chat message
Yeah that is what I did. Went out and in again and it is fine. It is the problem someone had before and addressed by Bojan
Are the APY boosts that you fulfilled on the test net carried over to the mainnet, I mean whenever I did a market proposal I still have the 3% APY boosts on the mainnet?
We are going to solve this upon mainnet.
There are no boosts on mainnet.
So we should enjoy them whilst we can!
Will derivatives market proposals come soon?
testnet is only 7 days? or until the team is comfortable with testnet results?
latter
We'll see, hopefully soon
Such a limitless area!
sry, driving, trying to answer shortly
Hi guys, can you please vote my proposal, thanks in advance #P307 - INJ/LIT
Drive carefully!
Sure
why did you choose inj/lit instead of lit/usdt ?
thanks i appreciate that
Because i hodling only 2 cryptocurrencies INJ and LIT
Lit/INJ could work. INJ could become like BNB and have things paired to it?

And some eth for gas ofcourse
non generic quote currency pairs usually don't get a ton of volume, exchanges regularly delist them
True
I need just a few more to reach 17m and than will be my proposal accepted
Someone told me 17m is enough vote power
i think it's closer to ~7 mil
33 percent of total INJ staked
ok i didnt know that thanks for your advices lads
I'm a bit confused, what is the base line APY for staking when mainnet launches?
it will be less than 15% and no boosts
Okay and the number (%) isn't known yet?
The team will provide more information on that before mainnet π
Okay thank you for the clarification @primal terrace and @kind flare
I received an 1000 kovan INJ, who needs Deposit so I can help you go through guys?
Please support my proposal guys! I really believe in this pair and I hope it passes! Proposal 316 (WETH/BNB). Thank you all in advance!
@hollow tulip can u help with this pls? ππ
Itβs for testing π€·π»ββοΈπ

figured now would be the best time for that...it's be best time to get acquaint with the new sistem and its features
really hoping it will get passed, really enthusiastic about the project π
but proposing a market via governance means it should be something you feel will actually be passed by voters too. if you redo it with a more sensible pair ill deposit and vote for it immediately
it's 2 different tasks. propose, and have passed
you already got the first one
totally get your point, definitely will propose more in the future. still, if you could support by voting, that would be a total incentive for future effort π
Did this kovanairdrop was for everyone the same? I would love to help anyone needing to achieve the minimum deposit
Please mates, would you mind voting on my proposal #P319 for LUNA/USDT? It has only 8000 INJ. Thanks
done
Done
@kind flare and everybody! can you all help on #P331 COMP/USDT vote? Thanks all! π
Voted
ok sir, done
thanks!!
@kind flare , @hollow tulip could you please vote on mine too? #P335 Thank you!
your wish has been granted
thanks !! π₯³
done
Random question since I'm not sure how it works -- my delegated amount of INJ seems to have dropped by 2 from yesterday to today, but I'm not sure why
Could be because your validator got slashed. The injective chain balance won't matter for rewards, rewards will be based upon the day you pre-staked, day you started delegating and boosts. If it's your delegated amount that was affected it's most likely this one. Who's your validator?
I'm with Helios staking at the moment
Guys it won't matter, don't worry. The team minted 1000 KINJ and sent them to each wallet to ease the governance process and also allow you to stress out the network in general.
Helios.Staking or Helios-Staking?
Helios.Staking
Yeah not a big deal to me, I have a lot of INJ delegated just wanted to understand why and if I should re-delegate
So we wonβt lose INJ due to validators slashing?
Nope. That's why the team updated the reward mechanism which you can find on the WALLET page
So stupid question, but does that mean I'm okay to just leave my INJ with Helios.staking?
Well, validator commissions don't really matter at the moment but I'll ask the team if we can see real-time if a validator got slashed but is still in the active set to see if that was normal or a bug. That being said, that won't be the case on mainnet because you'll losing real INJ so keep that in mind :). Could you send me your injective address in DM in case the team needs it?
I'd appreciate if anyone was able to vote on my LINK/WBTC spot market proposal #P343 - LINK/WBTC
I think I understand now -- the validator commissions/rewards are just in a dev phase and not "real", and our actual rewards are based on the pre-staked amount and boosts
Is this accurate?
Yes that is correct.
Gotcha thank for clarifying
Just heard back from Bojan, seems that the validator got slashed so not a bug π
is there a way to figure out what day i started pre staking?
Pre-staking started on March 17 and ended March 29. You could check etherscan
etherscan is the way to go. or in metamask Activity section when connected to mainnet, you can check the date you transferred your INJ out for pre-stake
Oh cool I sent it on March 17
feels good man
very comfy 
life is good. thanks for being so helpful all
Cheers sir
silly question. i just realized i have kinj tokens sitting in kovan network. what are they and can i transfer to inj mainnet to earn rewards
You can transfer your KINJ over to the injective chain and delegate them/use them to propose new markets, vote on proposals (based on delegated amount). Rewards won't be based on your injective chain balance, they will rather be calculated on your pre-staked amount/day you started pre-staking as well as APY boosts
appreciate your quick answer!! thx
No problem
Hi guys, what is governance?
You can create proposals (for spot markets up to now) or vote for proposals that you see fit to be implemented on Injective.
Governance allows projects to achieve full decentralization
As decision-making is based on the majority of the voters π
Generally speaking, governance is how you use consensus to modify on-chain protocol parameters
Okay cool. So by voting i also get an apr boost?
There's an APY boost (2%), for voting in 2+ proposals
That's nice. thanks for answering
Where can i read more about governance?
i found it. nvm
Great π
what is the link/video to learn more about governance in inj please
Thank you again!
Hello everyone! I finally got a proposal to the voting stage thanks to the 1000 KINJ! I'd appreciate it if you could support me with your votes :) Thanks!
Hello everyone! My first proposal in the voting stage (SNX/USDC pair) https://staking.injective.network/proposals/348 Kindly support, Thank you!
@quaint wolf @ornate ferry i got you
There are no adverse effects to me adding more INJ to my pre-stake right? I started at the beginning of prestaking and have just been accumulating and adding more
correct
you just get hit with a brand new 7 day waiting period before you can withdraw any back to mainnet (DQ'ing you from rewards)
so if you're not planning to withdraw, you're good to go adding more
With regards to the current staking incentives are the APY boosts true APY additions? I.e. if I got the 2% boost will that guarantee me an additional 2% staking yield on top of the base 15% for the next year (I.e. 17% yield for the next year)?
And is this accrued over a calendar year or paid out in a single lump sum?
Yes. 15% is the base APY and with the boosts you can reach up to 29%
Accrued over a year so 0.15 / 365
That's the formula
Wasnβt there a 100% boost though for those staking early (but it was a set amount of INJ) to be distributed?
That boost was applied to delegators for a day but the team changed the reward mechanism to the one shown above to ensure stakers will get rewards regardless of validator downtime. As such, the injective chain balance no longer matters
Ya I think that was what I was trying to understand. So Iβm correct in that the β100 % APY boostβ was really a β100% APY/ 365β boost...? But the other boosts are actually giving a βtrue APYβ boost. Does that make sense?
Well it's the same thing. The 100% APY boost was 100% / 365 and the task boosts are the same thing. It's actually shown in the formula above wherein it says 0 to 0.14 / 365
The boosts are added to the daily APY. For instance, if I complete the market proposal that would be 15% (Daily) + 3% for that boost so I got 18% / 365
I guess a simple way to state my real question would be if I were staking 100 INJ and got a 2% boost, will that one action βearn meβ an additional 2 INJ on top of the base staking rate?
I think a better way to understand this is to consider that you have a standard APY and the boosts are just added to that. The daily APY is 15% and each boost is added to that number. APY is calculated annually so that number would be divided /365. If you have completed all tasks your APY would be 0.29 / 365
The calculator on the WALLET page shows you approximately the INJ you will receive upon completion of the tasks as well as by putting the number of days you pre-staked and the early adopter bonus
But generally yes, that 2% boost would add you 2 INJ as you would do 100 * 0.02 = 2 (wherein 0.02 is your boost)
But of course that would be annually not by the end of the competition
This is part of what Iβm trying to understand. Once the competition ends, does the β% boostβ end as well? Iβm trying to understand if itβs a true APY boost (which Iβm thinking of in terms of an actual calendar year) vs a βtheoretical APY for a distinct time period that is in fact shorter than a yearβ
Yes, the boosts are there to incentivize our users to stake and interact with the injective chain so that we can ensure that every element of our chain is working properly before mainnet. This APY will essentially be multiplied with the number of days the competition will last. Upon mainnet, you will be able to stake your INJ tokens on our chain and get a standard APY (with no boosts). That being said, when we go on mainnet and you stake your INJ you will receive an APY X (let's suppose that X is 10%) and then if you leave your tokens for 1 year staked you will get that total 10%. For instance, if you stake 1000 INJ upon mainnet with that theoretical APY after exactly one year you will get 100 INJ as rewards so you will have a total of 1100 INJ.
Got it. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify, thanks. π
No problem! π
I deposited 1000 INJ for governance, do i still get APY for it?
The APY is not based on your injective chain balance
It's based on the pre-staking amount, the day you started pre-staking and the boosts completed. You can use your INJ to create proposals or delegate them and use them to vote on proposals but it won't affect rewards
Hi, if I do not claim the rewards and re-delegate to another validator, will the rewards earned from the earlier validator be lost?
Automatically claimed
It may look like you lost them, but they are automatically claimed and sent to your injective chain balance
thks
Why are my total INJ declining? I have them staked and claiming but my total is decling?
thank you
Appreciate if you could support me with votes for #P321 ALGO / USDT thanks π
Thanks!
"Noob alert": As the rewards are calculated based on pre-staked amount, I understand we will get those when/after mainnet launch. My question: then whatever 'delegation rewards' I am earning on this testnet are just for fun? What happens to the 'delegation rewards' I am earning through delegating the minted 1000 KINJ I received today, after mainnet launch will I receive the rewards? I think, those 1000 vanish after mainner launch, but what happens the rewards?
Hello, just created the Denom AVAX and proposal #P359 AVAX/USDT. I think this is one of the most important missing markets and Avalanche is partnered with Injective, so I guess we will be able to trade on crypto on this ecosystem.
Hey, that's correct. Your injective chain balance won't matter in the end. Rewards will be distributed based on your pre-staked amount, the day you started pre-staking and the boosts completed. That being said, the rewards from your delegation as well as the 1000 KINJ the team minted for each wallet won't be taken under consideration. The team minted these tokens to ease the process of governance. When this phase is finished you will receive real INJ in your wallet in Ethereum mainnet. Upon mainnet you will be able to stake your tokens and get a standard APY (no boosts) as the boosts are only for the testnet to incentivize users to stake and test the elements of the injective chain
Hello everyone ! ! quite new to all this but excited for my first proposal https://staking.injective.network/proposals/361 support very appreciated π π
voted !
Someone, I guess the team ,did deposit the 999 INJ needed for passing, now feel free to vote for the AVAX/USDT proposal. Regards!
it's a good one, I voted
Is there someone of the Injective team that can vote for my proposal #P329 - ATOM/USDT Spot Market, I think this is a must for the mainnet. Thank you in advance.
hey guys! please vote my proposals : 369 (INJ/LINK) and 370 (INJ/SUPER) !
EVERY VOTE COUNTS!
I really believed those pais are a good mach, and I hope they pass. Thank you for voting! π»
π
Why do you think those are good pairs? I don't think they would have much volume. It's not about making any possible pair but those that make sense. But that's just my opinion.
I guess its people trying to get the boost from proposing a market, but thats fine while we are at testnet.
I'd say mostly people don't have much knowledge about what makes a good trading pair vs not (myself included) -- so it's more picking favorite coins instead of understanding volume and liquidity and such
bad pair proposals won't get passed anyways
Can anyone help me pass my proposal? Tried a few different proposals but they aren't hitting the voting requirements π - #P325 - INJ/AAVE
Thanks guys & gals!
I'm guessing you need original proposals? Not pairs that have already been proposed?
Yes, a proposal may go into the deposit stage but will not pass the voting stage if it's duplicate. You could mint your own token and create a new pair
thx
ah sorry, I hadn't spotted that pair had already passed.
My other proposal seems to be an original proposal.
#P327 - DOT/GBP
Anyone free to vote for it π Thanks!
Is there a way to delete or cancel a proposal you made yourself with no votes yet? I guess no
nope
thx
You'd need to unbond at least 1 INJ to propose a market and you have 0.76 :)
ok
You need 1 INJ to create a proposal and the proposal must have 1000 INJ to pass to the voting stage
will the delegate reward finally calculated and distribute after main net launch?
since we receive 1000 inj for test, is this include into APY calculation?
The rewards will be calculated based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and the boosts completed. Your injective chain balance/claimed rewards etc. don't really matter. The team minted 1000 KINJ for each wallet to ease the process of governance and allow you to further test the network
great, i got it
Dear team, I prestaked 1.144,33 INJ, then I withdraw them. Afterwards I prestaked 1.160,84 INJ. It seems though that the amount of INJ in my Kovan Testnet remained 1.144,33 INJ. My Eth Wallet is 0x75a2c286D4899d3BeC71CCd54B756d63f159446f and my Cosmos Account inj1wk3v9pk53xwnhmr3en25katdv0c4j3r02k00f2. Can u help?
Hey, unfortunately you have forfeited your rights for rewards, since you withdrew the tokens back to Ethereum from the deposit manager. If you would like to still participate in the phase you would have to send the tokens to a new wallet and re-stake again
That's very unfotunete, there's no other way?, the gas fees are very high...
unfortunate.
There's no other way unfortunately
Brrr, so ungry at myself, I hate loosing money!
Anyway, as I understand it make no sense to leave my prestaked 1.160,84 INJ in my wallet as I'm not going to receive any rewards
Youβre good! Just remember youβre holding the best coin in the universe!
Well you have already withdrawn your pre-staked amount from the deposit manager back to your Ethereum address so there's nothing left for you to withdraw essentially.
The rewards are icing on the cake. But remember, you still gots the whole cake!
Nope, as I prestaked again after withdrawing, now I need to withdraw again...
Anyway, I hoped that the system would consider this new prestaked amount as the valid one..
Oh yes, there's no point in leaving them there. You won't get any rewards, so you would need to re-stake to another wallet
Ok, thanks for your help and stay safe
You too! π
@kind flare can you hook me up with some votes please? P385-AAVE/WETH proposal. I failed one of the earlier proposals and had my inj burned. had to unbond some more. this time for sure!
done
**Update: The team voted to all the eligible proposals (which have received minimum deposit) using the genesis validators. ** π
bless, thank you!
a random 1000 INJ showed up on my Kovan testnet account? That's not normal right?
Hey, the team minted 1000 KINJ for each eligible wallet in order to ease the process of governance and allow you to test the network further. The rewards will be calculated based on the pre-staking amount you have, the day you started to pre-stake and APY boosts based on the tasks you perform and will be issued at the end of the Equinox Staking.
great thx
Please someone drop a vote on #P333 - OCEAN/MKR Spot Marketπ
Hi, anyone can help to vote #P386 - SUPER/USDTπ
what made you choose to pair it with MKR?
Proposal 387 ready to get some votes! DAI/BUSD pair.
how do you get kovan balance back to ethereum mainnet?
That would be from the STAKE page, but if you do it you forfeit your rights to any rewards
Also a random 1000 kovan appeared in my metamask as kinj, is that real value?
And you can't withdraw more kovan inj than your initially-deposited mainnet inj
Nothing special really, just accomplish tasks to get apy boosts
Is it just me or is this a bad high school prom king and queen vote? I thought this was a serious project with exceptional experience in project execution with a real business plan. I'm-watching a poor reactant of vote for Pedro. I'm growing concerned.
The team minted 1000 KINJ for each eligible wallet in order to ease the process of governance and allow you to test the network further. The rewards will be calculated based on the pre-staking amount you have, the day you started to pre-stake and APY boosts based on the tasks you perform and will be issued at the end of the Equinox Staking. So basically they don't have any value
no, but you can use it for tasks
just you
Ahh gotcha. Darn thought this was a uniswap type airdrop at first lol
cool imagination tho π
Nope π just some testnet tokens to allow the users to test our infrastructure
to get something to pass you need to ask here for team members to support your proposal (usually we just do it, no questions asked). throwing proposals randomly out there isn't enough to convince anyone
Still cool then hahah
OK. It was just feeling a bit amateurish. I'll relax.
do you have a proposal you would like us to consider, sir?
I do. It was voting on then disappeared. I expected the pair to speak for itself. I will post another.
What was your proposed pair?
Thank you for the clarification, Sir!
I was trying to bring in traditional markets. I proposed SPY USDT and QQQ USDT. I'll think of another
OK. My mistake
If I want my proposal to be voted on, I need to deposit 1k INJ to it? Will I get these back, or do I understand correctly that it doesn't matter since this is just testnet staking?
you understand it correctly. but with regards to your injective chain inj balance (used for completing tasks, delegating), you need to have 1k deposited in a proposal in order to get it to the voting stage. you can also deposit less and ask us here to deposit the rest. if the deposit does not reach 1k you do lose that initial deposited amount
alright, thanks
let me know when you make the proposal. i can help you out with the deposit
I already have
whats the number
i can also assist with the vote
@hollow tulip I wanted to give an extensive proposition for the derivatives, maybe in a form of a video or something. Do you know when derivatives proposals will be coming? Where would be an appropriate place to post something like this, #π°οΈ²gov-discussions ? If yes, and if these derivatives would be implemented, how could I connect these to my wallet so that I get the boost?
oh, okay, then nevermind the boost
Basically, I have some idea of what derivatives I would like to see on INJ and I was thinking about making a video about it
I'll do the video first and then post it here and see if it gets any traction
Injective is going to have fiat pairs right?
How do we make like an INJ\AUD pair
How do we mint the aud cause can't send it to an address
you can try minting it using https://vittominacori.github.io/erc20-generator/create-token/
just make sure to select kovan for the network
do you consider USDT and USDC to be fiat?
fiat implicitly is not on-chain, so the abstract answer is no. it'll have stablecoins (ex. USDT, USDC)
Proposal 387 (DAI/BUSD) ending in 14 hours. It has 4.5 mill Inj votes, should I worry it won't pass? Or can someone help with a few mill in votes π
i'm most of those votes. you'll need another team member to jump in 
Ok, Ill ask around. Thanks for the votes Michael π
@hollow tulip I have not been able to find the 2 proposals I submitted the other day, not even just after submitting.. any ideas what happened?
do you remember what pairs they were?
Yes..
what were they?
Ren / DAI was 1st
and the 2nd?
hmm yeah im not seeing either one
can you try re-submitting? i can fill up the deposits and votes for you
Sure.. will do right now :) thank you
@hollow tulip ok, ren/dai amd renBTC/dai were resubmitted with 1 INJ each
deposited and voted on both β
And we can/should vote for our own submissions as well correct?
@hollow tulip and after doing all task, should we leave INJ delegated after unbending?
Yes
I keep seeing people say there is no point in keeping inj delegated as it won't affect our rewards at all when main net launches, is this true?
when mainnet launches the equinox (testnet) staking competition will end and rewards will be distributed. at that point you should not stay delegated. but you should continue to delegate until then in order to continue earning staking (delegating) APY
Okay and the rewards from the 1000 inj you gave will not count towards if delegated right?
in the process of participating in the competition, you may lose small amounts of inj due to being slashed when validators you are delegating to unbond, or when losing a deposit when participating in governance. the 1000 inj goes toward helping you recoup such losses such that you can earn APY with the full amount you sent from ethereum (erc20 inj). if you delegate in excess of the initial amount you sent, you will not earn APY on those extra tokens
Okay great thank you π
What if I staked a week ago, then again today thru ERC20 INJ contract
I assume it would dynamically update, and it shows the total "pre staked" in wallet
though the calculator displays as if I had been earning on the new total amount since day 1, and I'm guessing this wouldnt be the case
Its a team member validator used to test out the flow, so its disabled for (re)delegation.
When is the INJ deposited on spot market proposal returned to us?
Only if the proposal passes or gets rejected (but had enough votes to pass the quorum).
You can add more INJ but even though this amount will be shown in the pre-staked amount, it will not be included in the pre-staking rewards (0 to 12 days) neither the early adopter bonus (0 to 2 days). Only you initial pre-staked amount will be awarded with these rewards so the new INJ tokens you deposited will get the APY from the day you pre-staked them and not from the beginning.
I did 2 proposals and also added to 3 other porposals but think that they didn't go through to the voting phase but they are also not showing in my wallet. When will this be or what would I need to do for this?
What were the proposals? IDs or Pairs?
My 2 proposals where GBP/BTC and LINK/GBP I think and IDs would be something around 230 I think. The once that I added too I can't remember anymore.
Did you get a successful output message? Can't seem to find them. When did you submit them?
Friday I think and no idea. Where can I find this message? Or if you mean if they really went through then yes 100% positive about that. I did 3 proposals. ID 232, pair ETH/GBP went to voting and got passed and I find that one but the other 2 also where there in the proposals but can't seem to find them anymore either but they definitely where and also my INJ is still locked into it.
Yeah I can find your ETH/GBP Passed but not the other ones. I'll ask the team to look into it.
Since you have done the ETH/GBP you already got the boost so no worries on that, but well done for continuing testing our chain! π
I imported snx and proposed inj/snx earlier. But was rejected and lost 1000. I got the 1000 free kovan and just now proposed Tsla/usdt. If it's rejected the 1000 inj will be burned. Does the delegated amount to validator has any impact on the final reward? I thought the delagated inj does not matter anymore because of the slashing and burn of rejected tokens
That's correct
The rewards will be calculated in the end of the phase based on the pre-staked amount, the day the user pre-staked (March 17 - March 29, 0-12 days), early adopters boost (0 to 2 days) and APY boosts. The injective chain balance and Kovan INJ don't really matter based on that formula π
This says recoup such losses. But how does it matter
Michael just meant to say that you essentially have the same voting power and the same benefits, like being able to propose new markets since the previous one was rejected and the tokens were burned
The team minted those 1000 KINJ because of the token burn
Okay . Thank you . So if my proposal gets rejected again am I getting 1000 more π
Well your proposal will not get rejected again because the team votes once a day on all proposals with the genesis validators, so just make sure you pass it to the voting stage and it will be accepted π
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Yeah sure but I'm less worried about the boost and more about the INJ that I still didn't get back.
Well the Injective chain balance and Kovan INJ don't really matter, they are just testnet tokens
Okay sure but my rewards are still based off of them right? So if now 200 INJ are gone I don't earn rewards on these for the whole staking period and I won't get them in ERC-20 no?
Basically, when you pre-staked, you sent your ERC20 INJ to our deposit manager and at the same time we minted the same amount in Kovan INJ. These ERC20 are secure in the deposit manager and lever left Ethereum. That being said, your funds are safe and also the rewards in the end will be based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and the completed boosts and they will be accrued directly to your ethereum address π
So there is now reason for me to claim and re-stake to get interest on interest then?
At least once you did it one time to get the boost?
Correct. You only have to do it once to get the boosts but it would help us if the community continues to participate in governance, and re-delegates, claims rewards so that we can continue testing the injective chain!
Yeah that's why I thought that this would count so users where incentivized to do so.
Well the injective chain balance did matter in the beginning but the formula was updated because of validator downtime/slashing. We wanted our users to leave the phase with rewards and many of them had lost INJ due to slashing so we changed the formula π
I see. You can't of course not have users loose INJ for participating.
I noticed that when I delegated some more to a validator that I still had some rewards to claim that they got claimed automatically when delegating more. Think this is great but thoght I just mention it as I'm not sure if this is supposed to be like this.
Yes, that is normal.
And also would love it if you could tag me here with the explenation of what happened with those other 2 proposals and I also deposited to other proposals and those INJ also still didn't returned to my wallet it seems
Of course. I'll reach out to our tech guys to see if your GBP/BTC and LINK/BGP pairs were successfully proposed. If you deposited more than 2 days ago it could be that the proposals (1) did not reach quorum or (2) did not have the required amount of INJ deposited. In both of these cases the tokens get burned but as we said it doesn't really matter as it's just testnet tokens. However, the team is voting on a daily basis to all proposals now so to ensure there won't be any more token burns
Oh yeah that's the explenation then. Pretty sure they didn't reach 1000INJ.

https://staking.injective.network/proposals/375 Please vote π¦ i don't want my INJ to be burned. hahaha
Your INJ won't be burned don't worry, even if your proposal is rejected
His INJ will be burned if it doesn't reach quorum but don't worry guys, the team is voting on all proposals on a daily basis to ensure there won't be token burns π
So we will be using the same parameters on mainnet ? 1000 INJ, Qurorum 33,4% and Vote period: 2 days?
Good question. I can tell you for sure that vote period won't be 2 days, it's a lot more generally. Regarding quorum and MinDeposit for the proposal to pass to the voting stage we will certainly get all that information before mainnet but maybe a team member can answer that when they come online π
I tried to claim delegation rewards and got this error msg : <Provided chainid "0x2a" must match the active chainid "1">
I was able to claim delegation rewards previously
No worries... hope this helps
Are you using Ledger?
Yes using ledger
Can you change Metamask's network to Kovan and try again?
clear your cache or use incognito
forgot to sign ledger, now using kovan and manage to connect...
I tried withdraw all tokens back to Ethereum and got this error msg : <Provided chainid "0x2a" must work at McDonaldβs for rest of life "1">
Now I managed to claim the rewards successfully ..thanks
hi everyone
Hello
is there some kind of support I could talk to?
I have a question about the amount of INJ I stacked
Sure. What kind of question?
I was wondering if there have been any INJ drop for the one that does stacking?
You mean for the 1000 KINJ you received?
yes
it act as a boost?
to increase the reward ?
I might need to digup the annoucements then, I didnt followed closely in the past few days
Yeap. The team minted these tokens to ease the process of governance and also account for some lost tokens which were burned. Tokens can be burned if (1) governance proposals do not get the minimum amount of INJ (1000 INJ) to pass to the voting stage or (2) the proposal does not reach the quorum. The injective chain balance and your KINJ won't matter in the end for rewards. Rewards will be based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and boosts completed. This reward formula ensures that all stakers will receive rewards at the end of the phase regardless of validator downtime so even if you get slashed it doesn't really matter.
Sure. You can read more about governance here: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/injective-governance-launch-spot-markets/
Details about the process from a team member here: #πγ»dev-support message
And regarding rewards, there's a calculator in the WALLET page wherein you can see the formula that will be used to calculate your rewards from this phase π
yes, but the reward I get seems higher than the amount I stacked based on the simulation that why Im a bit confused
By the "reward" you mean your tokens in Kovan or Injective chain balance?
I mean, I delegate some INJ and collect some reward, but it seems higher than the simulations.
Yeah so the injective chain balance and your amount in Kovan don't really matter, they will not be given to you 1-1 neither will be included in the reward formula. To get a better understanding on what you will receive at the end of the phase, you will check the calculator in the WALLET page to see your rewards.
That's the formula. So at the end of the phase you'll get back from the deposit manager your ERC20 INJ (the INJ you pre-staked) + rewards based on this. Approximate numbers can be viewed on the calculator π
It will end at the launch of the mainet ?
Before mainnet, yes
this is where the reward get accumulated once I claim it, then I can delegate it again with the rest of my stack right?
ok, I think im clear
Practically yes, but not for this phase. Basically when you delegate to a validator you can claim rewards and then re-delegate and these rewards are basically what you're getting from the staking. However, for this testnet phase rewards will not be given based on that, your rewards will be calculated based on the formula above in order to (1) ensure that users will leave the phase with rewards regardless of validator downtime (due to slashing) (2) ensure that the tokens that got burned in governance won't affect users either. That would not be the case upon mainnet however, as you would have to choose your validator claim rewards, re-stake etc.
No problem! π
Why do people reject proposals in kovan test network?
point of testing is for both rejecting and passing
wouldnβt be a testnet without it
For a proposal to pass it needs to reach quorum (33% of total staked coins) and also > 50% of the votes to be yes otherwise it will be rejected
I mean some people are voting against proposal, while I need it for my API boosts. Will rejected proposals also count?
Well it's up to anybody honestly to vote with Yes, No or Abstain (on mainnet people will be able to also vote No with Veto). With regards to boosts and governance, there is one 2% boost for voting to 2+ governance proposals, 3% boost to propose a new market and a 5% boost to get a market accepted. Rejected proposals will not satisfy the 5% boost as it needs to pass the voting stage.
I just had some inj appear in my Kovan Testnet wallet that wasn't there before. Has anyone else had this happen to them? I am not complaining but it was strange
The team minted 1000 KINJ for each eligible wallet in order to ease the process of governance and allow you to test the network further. However, your Injective chain balance and KINJ won't matter in the end for rewards, they're just test tokens. The rewards will be calculated based on the pre-staking amount you have, the day you started to pre-stake and APY boosts based on the tasks you perform and will be issued at the end of the Equinox Staking.
I mean we are doing it for testing purposes, right? Or community getting testing too seriously. Any advices to make my next proposal to get accepted?
Thanks for the update. I will test out some of those features then
My proposal passed! I'm so happy. Thanks team!
The team started voting on all proposals daily so if you get it passed to the deposit stage it is likely that will be accepted π
Hey i got this issue with my ledger, when i click get more addresses, the address I want isn't coming up in the list
It used to pop up as the first one
Hey
This is a ledger issue related to the derivation paths (ledger legacy/ledger live have different derivation paths). Unfortunately, ledger does not allow you to set a custom derivation path at the moment so the only way to find the correct one is to swap between ledger legacy/ledger live or log out and log back in until the correct address is displayed.
ok ill try that
Hey team! Just launched my proposal for an ALGO / USDC spot market. Would appreciate your honest vote! π https://staking.injective.network/proposals/430
Stupid question - if we add more INJ to our testnet balance now, will the calculation for our testnet APY still work out correctly? It won't reset or anything like that?
Hey
You can add more INJ but even though this amount will be shown in the pre-staked amount, it will not be included in the pre-staking rewards (0 to 12 days) neither the early adopter bonus (0 to 2 days). Only you initial pre-staked amount will get these rewards so the new INJ tokens you deposit will get the APY from the day you pre-stake them and not from the beginning.
Yeah thats totally fair enough, as long as I get rewards from today. thanks
Is there any documentation on how the migration to mainet will take place?
not yet
test in prod
whats this mean, its an erc-20 and I have enough Kovan
Probably propose a market?
creating a new denom, correct
Are you in the kovan network?
yes, and I have 1298 kovan
what about KETH?
Weird guess would be that you have deployed the contract on a different network like Rinkesby, how did you mint it?
I can send you the contract address if you want to test it
Yes please
Hello everyone.. excited to see staking running so smoothly! I've submitted 2 proposals regarding Ren amd RenBTC.. I would greatly appreciate all of your voted to pass either of them or both. They are #401 and #402 in the voting tab.. only a few hours left.. thanks in advance for the help.. it will be returned as Karma always is
Ren / DAI and renBTC / DAI
Issue resolved it was the network
π
Hey I have a bug, the rewards I'm getting from staking aren't taking into account the tasks I have completed (all of them)
Hey
The injective chain balance is actually irrelevant with the reward formula. Your rewards will be calculated at the end of the phase based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked, and the boosts completed. When this phase is over, the pre-staked amount (safe in the deposit manager) will return to you and you will also receive awards based on the parameters I stated above directly to your Ethereum address. The rewards from validators don't really count and that's to ensure that stakers will be rewarded regardless of validator downtime
That's the formula
Yeah I understand that but shouldn't it be showing them correctly?
You can view your approximate rewards on the calculator. When you fill in the days in the pre-staked period, early adopter and also tick the tasks completed the amount you will receive is updated on the calculator
I'm not worried about the rewards I'm worried that mainnet will start and people with have the issue of APY boosts not working correctly like it seems is happening rn on testnet for me
or will this somehow not happen on mainnet
You won't have APY boosts on mainnet, just a standard APY
Cheers
Will everyone that prestaked have a higher APY or everyones will be the same?
Equal for all π
Pre-staking and boosts are just to incentivize users for this phase so that they participate and we can test our chain
ok ty π
General question for the team: looking at progress so far, how has testing been going from your perspective? As expected, worse, or better? Where are we at now and are we on track based on the original projected timeline?
We have fixed issues along the way, and the fixes have not created more bugs. So you could say it's going well! We are happy with the progress and timeline.
Awesome to hear that!
Good job team!
Hey, please use #π§ ο½off-topic for anything non-related to the phase π
Sorry 
Hi, I could not see kc.vc in the list of validators (counted about 11) when I tried to re-delegate...
hmm i see it in there now
have you tried toggling "Active Only"? you shouldn't have to but maybe it'll work for you
kc.vc stands out as it uses a π emoji in the name
The coolest validator for sure π
I can see when I go to the validator list but I can't see it in the list when I click on re-delegate
what if you try to type it in?
No match
@hollow tulip can you find my proposal #138 (LINK BNB) which should have passed a few days ago? For some reason, Iβm unable to find it...
i can't see it either. i would guess it did pass, as there are exactly 100 items in the passed category. pagination may be broken at the moment, and 100 looks like a default for max results per page. it's probably in there
i see what you mean. i think the re-delegate may be limited to our official approved validator partners for equinox. kc.vc is not one of them
. may i interest you in ubik capital or helios with the same commission rate?
Okay, cool! Thank you π
I have tried the re-delegation to ubik and helios... those working fine
but there is nothing mentioned on which validators are approved in the validator list
generally it's the ones closer to the top of the list
the graphic here also tells you which are the partners

maybe it's just inconsistent filtering then. the re-delegate by design only shows you the partner validators
Hey, kc.vc is actually a validator from a team member who set it up to ensure everything is working properly and you should generally avoid re-delegating to that one as they may run a few tests from time to time. They've basically filtered it out for re-delegations so that people don't delegate with that one π
Hi guys, this may seem like a dumb question, but with all the Testnets and pre-staking and everything I've lost track a bit whats what network. If I wanted to withdraw some funds from my i assume is now mainent INJ wallet to put on Binance or whatever, whats the process?
Hey, you mean withdraw from pre-staking back to your wallet to get them on an exchange?
I guess. I depositted ETH/INJ into Kovan test and now have moved it to INJ main and am staking. I suddenly thought what's the process to get it out? I'm not planning to, but wanted to check. Is it, INJ => Kovan Test => Binance ETH?
Or will exchanges support INJ mainnet etc?
im confused π
Well, if you withdraw any amount back to Ethereum, you essentially forfeit your rights for rewards (even if it's 1 INJ). The phase will finish when the team tests every element of the injective chain and ensures everything is working properly for Mainnet (which will happen in Q2). That being said, you'll either wait for the phase to finish before withdrawing your coins (to get the rewards) or you withdraw them back now but essentially all of them, as there's no point in keeping half of them in since you'll not be taking any rewards if you withdraw any amount of ERC20 coins back to Ethereum. With regards to how we'll proceed before Mainnet, we will provide more information on that with detailed guides but essentially you'd have to withdraw the tokens from the deposit manager back to your Ethereum address and then send them through our Peggy Bridge to essentially get them on our native chain. I think that answers all your questions, if not let me know!
No i think thats ok. So everything I have in my INJ wallet now will be moved to Mainet including any stakign rewards?
Nope, your staking rewards will be distributed to your Ethereum address directly but you would have to withdraw yourself coins back to Ethereum from the Stake page, approve the transaction etc. After that you will send them through our bridge to our own chain. We will explain the process in detail for everybody don't worry about that π
no staking rewards if you remove any ERC inj from pre stake
Ok... I'll jsut HODL.. def one of the more complex setups I've used and I have a lot of diff coins staked
for a remind, the APY boost is just for the 12 pre satke days? the APY for days since then stays at base APY?
Well we're in a testnet phase, when we go on mainnet things will be much easier π for now you had to do a bit more like send them in Ethereum to the deposit manager, get them from Kovan to Injective and then you'll have to do what I stated above to get them to our chain
So INJ will run on ETH chain in end or it's own chain based on ETH?
or something totally new?
We have our own chain, we won't be on ETH
ok
That's the reward formula. Base APY is 15% for the whole period and the boosts are added to that number. There was also a pre-stake period which lasted for 12 days (March 17 - March 29)
ok, so that means APY boosts are used from end of pre stake util Q2 begins?
The boosts are added to the daily APY from the beginning of Equinox (which was after the pre-stake period) until this testnet phase is over and we are ready for Mainnet. We are already in Q2 (April to June) so this will happen sometime within these months.
Hi INJ Team! π what is the state of this competition? Are there still any known bugs? is there something that should be tested with higher priority and we should be more focused on?
Well they are releasing fixes on bugs just a few minutes after reporting them so I doubt there are well known ones :). See here a similar question and a response from one of our devs #πγ»dev-support message
Hey guys, Do we now loose the INJ deposited if the a proposal is Rejected?
Nope. The tokens are burned if (1) the proposal doesn't reach quorum or (2) the deposit does not satisfy the MinDeposit amount which is 1000 INJ to pass to the voting stage. A third case for your tokens to be burned would be to be voted No with Veto (something that will be possible upon mainnet)
If your proposal is rejected, the tokens will be returned to you
Thanks. How long does it take to get them returned? I have a rejected proposal a bit earlier today but not returned the INJ
Should be returned to you immediately. What's your proposal ID?
#P411
That's your proposal and it seems that it hasn't reached quorum and that's why your tokens got burned. However, that does not affect you as the injective chain balance won't matter in the end for rewards. Your pre-staked amount will be returned to you from the deposit manager and rewards will be based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and the boosts completed. For a proposal to reach quorum, 33% of the total staked coins must have voted in which means that the result of the proposal is considered valid and then > 50% of the votes must be Yes for the proposal to pass and be accepted.
Oh I got the quorum part wrong. I thought it is 33% of the deposited amount in the proposal
It's the total staked coins which means that since we have like 19m coins you'd need over 6 π
Got it. THanks a lot for the clarification!
No problem 
Hi! Added #P449 - DAI/USDC Spot pair, please vote for it when you guys have a spare minute. Thanks!
Hi !
I've been playing with the staking webapp for a week or two.
First of all : great job, it's nice to use and easy to understand.
I have a question, i logged in today and saw that 1000INJ have been credited to my kovan inj balance out of nowhere.
I though that those tokens were minted on a 1 for 1 basis with the amount we stake, am i missing something ?
Hey
You're correct, those were minted for 1-1 with the tokens you deposited to the deposit manager in Ethereum. The team minted 1000 KINJ more for each wallet in order to ease the process of governance and allow you to test the network further. These are just testnet tokens and the injective balance / KINJ won't be taken into consideration to the reward formula. Your rewards will be rather calculated based on the amount you pre-staked, the day you started to pre-stake and the tasks completed π
oh ok i must have missed an announcement then, thank you very much for the explanation i was pretty afraid of making a mistake π
We didn't announce the 1000 KINJ token mint. No problem π here's also the reward formula to have a full understanding
thank you, i read it already and i think i had understood it all.
I wanted to be sure about what i'm doing because i had a pretty bad experience with the synthetix staking platform previously π
Sure, no problem. Let us know if you got any more questions
Hi, I encountered "unable to claim interface" error message when I tried to add deposit to a newly created proposal the 2nd time
Hey. maybe you didn't have the input amount in your injective balance and you need to unbond. Can I have a screenshot of the error to tell you for sure please?
Sounds like an error wherein you can't sign the transaction. Can you ensure that you're connected with MetaMask and also in Kovan Testnet?
Yes connected with Metamask and on kovan testnet
Google Chrome is up to date
Version 89.0.4389.114 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Okay, can you reload the browser (like close and open it again) as well as clear the cache? Might also want to try opening in private window (incognito)
ok will try that
Sure let me know when you do
Is the 1k KINJ that was deposited today to allow us to pass our own governance proposal?
Yes, please read here: #πγ»dev-support message
Yes, managed to complete deposit after following suggestions... think the problem arose because I opened another chrome windows on the same site
Great, glad it's solved π
Thanks, I've proposed a market and Deposited the 1k INJ. I then voted yes.
Do I need a certain amount of votes in order for it to pass? Or just my vote with the 1k INJ deposit should see it pass?
See here for full details on governance and let me know if you have any questions: #πγ»dev-support message
Hi everyone, I was wondering if all the surprise airdrop are going to have for requirement to have a minimum of 100 INJ staked... I have a lower amount, but in order to be elegible I would stake more INJ. Or is there gonna be airdrop with other eligibility requirements? Thanks for the answer!
Hi How do i see were my airdrop of $ramp is. I saw my address in the sheets file. Thank you
Hey, follow this guide: #π¬γ»general message
Thanks
Got a bit too excited when I saw that 1000 KINJ on my balance and saw that I can delegate it π
Hhaha yeah they're just minted tokens with no value π
@kind flare Please send some additional KINJ to my wallet(DM me). My proposal got rejected.
I've deposited some to other proposals, so now I lack KINJs.
I see, well the team deposited some KINJ to everyone but they're not sending it individually so you'd have to wait until until the other proposals pass or get rejected so that you can get the tokens back.
Can someone point me to the doc that explains market proposals
just did one with 1000 KINJ
Check this out and let me know if you have questions: #πγ»dev-support message
@primal terrace Another question. Pre-staking period has finished, right? Do I need to restake?
Pre-staking lasted from March 17 to March 29. All you had to do after that was to delegate and also complete the boosts
To confirm, do people who staked after the 29th march do they still get the 15% apy plus boosts?
Basically, during the pre-staking period you were getting the 15% APY only, then from 29th of March until the end of the phase you'll get the 15% Base APY + any boosts you complete
The delegation should happen in mainnet?
What do you mean?
I mean in which network it should happen? In mainnet in Kovan test network?
You have to be on Kovan to interact with our chain so anything you do, make sure you're on Kovan. Follow this guide too if you haven't delegated yet you should be at 6.: https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/equinox-staking-walkthrough/
And the staking rewards we get in the moment we stop to stake is that correct?
The rewards will be sent directly to your Ethereum address at the end of the phase but you should be delegated and also complete as many boosts as possible. The rewards from validators don't really matter. It's only the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and also the boosts completed that matter
I have delegated on the test rework just 80% the rest is locked in the proposals i wrote (vor everyone 1 INJ) and I wrote maany. So I will get less rewards if I delegated less on the network? Than as I locked in the smart contract on the Ethereum Chain?
That's okay you don't have to delegate all your tokens but you have to be delegated π the delegated amount won't make any difference
Okay perfect π€
why do I have 1k KINJ in my wallet, what does it mean, does it mean i was airdropped or what, please guide
Hey
I have them on binance. So I don't get kinj?
The team minted 1000 KINJ for each eligible wallet in order to ease the process of governance and allow you to test the network further. The rewards will be calculated based on the pre-staking amount you have, the day you started to pre-stake and APY boosts based on the tasks you perform and will be issued at the end of the Equinox Staking so basically the injective chain balance and your KINJ don't really matter, they are just test tokens and have no value π
KINJ is just a test asset which was minted for the corresponding amount, the user deposited to our deposit manager in order to interact with our chain π
can i stake INJ if I have it in my Metamask BSC wallet?
Unfortunately you'd have to stake with ERC20 INJ at the moment. There are plans for cross-chain integration later on though π
Hey if I stake more inj now will it get added to my pre staked amount or is it too late for that?
You can add more INJ but even though this amount will be shown in the pre-staked amount, it will not be included in the pre-staking rewards (0 to 12 days) neither the early adopter bonus (0 to 2 days). Only you initial pre-staked amount will be awarded with these rewards so the new INJ tokens you deposit will get the APY from the day you pre-stake them and not from the beginning.
Okay thank you
And, if a stake more INJ, would it get the APY boosts?
Yes
Thanks!
Hi everyone, I staked my INJ about a week or so ago, and when I logged on through my Ledger today it says my balance and pre-stake balance is 0. Do i need to Approve transfer of ERC20 tokens into Injective again? Am I missing something?
Hi, could you please send me your address in a DM?
Yes
All sorted π
Was the ramp airdrop random again. If so seems I missed out on another one lol. I have so much INJ staked in this. π
Yeah, they're always going to be random π
Hi, guys. Have the special epic tasks been announced?
Hey, not yet π
@primal terrace ok lol figures I never even won on a scratch off except a free ticket. I continue to stake my big bag of INJ in hopes to get one of the drops. At least I'm getting the apy ohh well....
been in since day 1
Thanks, boss
No problem π
ChangeMethodProposal #666:
The airdrop selecting method will be next time:
winners = random.sample(inj_stakers, 148)
winners.append(βbuzz_addressβ)
Thanks for votesπ
did some INJ stakers get 1,000 INJ coins deposited into their staking wallet as a surprise boost????
ty but this doesnt answer my question. my friend staked 225 INJ coins and now in his delegation balance it's showing 1,225 coins
is that a glitch?
it does answer it. people got +1000 inj like it says, and it's for performing tasks that provide you with apy boosts. rewards in the end will not reflect inj balance in the staking dashboard, but dependent on the prestaked amount and the total apy (baseline + boost earned). given that, you can consider the +1000 to be monopoly money
but wouldnt that show up as 1,000 KINJ or 1,000 Injective Chain coins? weird to me that it was added to his delegation balance. is that normal?
doesn't seem possible. has he shown you a screenshot of that? the +1000 is added to kovan balance in the wallet page
and even if added to delegation balance, it still has no impact on rewards
ohhhh ok i see, ya thats what hes saying now. thanks!
hi, I could not find my submitted proposal anymore... the UI doesn't help in making the search any easier
I did not see any 1000 Injective chain coin or kovan testnet
Hey, what's your proposal ID?
Hi. Please vote for proposal 475 - brings KYL onto the platform!
Thank you!
Hi, how to view your submitted proposals? I'm not seeing it on any of the lists, it's been over 24 hours
What's the ID?
I'm not at home right now but I can provide it another time. Where do I find the I'd for future reference?
ID*
It's dynamically created and you can view it next to the proposal but if you didn't keep it we'd have to look for the pair. What was your pair?
I honestly don't remember. I just picked one to test it out
I see, maybe you could create a new one and keep the ID so that we can track it? π
Yes sir, sounds like a plan. I've never done the governance thing before so I'm learning. What exactly is the point of it?
Great! Well governance lies at the core of any decentralised project, essentially when we go on Mainnet, markets will be proposed via governance and added on Injective if accepted. Changes to the code will also go through governance so basically the community takes part in decision-making regarding the protocol in general π
When did you go from Rogue to Achilleas? Congrats on the promotion. Well deserved.
Hahah thank you π
Glad to see someone taking charge in here and contributing on such a high level. It was much needed. Now we have someone minding the store!
We just released an article describing the governance procedure in detail! Check it out
https://blog.injectiveprotocol.com/injective-governance-proposal-procedure/
is the voting period likely to be extended on mainnet? 1-day voting window seems a short time for a serious proposal
Of course, it will be longer on Mainnet
+1, can confirm it's random, haven't won anything in ages π
I haven't won anything in any of the airdrops, but it doesn't bother me at all. Airdrops are great adverts for the sorts of projects INJ is partnered with
Guys, I feel stupid. In order to launch a spot market proposal, I need to get the ERC-20 token into my Kovan wallet before proceeding. How...? Google isnt helpful.
Hey
In order to create a new denom, you would have to deploy a smart contract and mint an ERC20 token. There is website which allows you to mint a token without writing code here: https://vittominacori.github.io/erc20-generator/create-token/
Define the fields as follows:
Token Name (The token you would like to propose, e.g. INJ): INJ
Token Symbol: INJ
Token Decimals: 18
Initial Supply (Any positive integer, e.g. 1000): 1000
Token Type: StandardERC20
Network: Kovan Test Network
Click confirm and then in the next screen click the button βAdd to Metamaskβ and approve the transaction. Lastly, there is a contract address below the token name which you have to copy and provide it to the requested field during the denom creation.
Follow this guide and let me know if you need any help π
Great! Thanks alot.
Cheers
Site works fine, but cant sign on Kovan with Ledger S via Metamask it seems? I guess a possibility is creating it on a "pure" metamask account, but I get the same problem, that Ledger dont get a sign option, when trying to transfer some of the eth I got from team on Kovan testet, to the metamask account to try it there. Any thoughts on a solution? xD Gah.
Yeah, could you please log out and log back in with ledger directly and not with MetaMask? No need to create another wallet, just connect directly with Ledger
https://vittominacori.github.io/erc20-generator/create-token/ insists on Metamask. Its there I cant sign the creation (on Ledger S).
Oh I see, thought you were talking about the staking dashboard. I'll create the denom for you π
Which one do you want?
I've created it but don't see it yet let's give it some time and see it it shows in a few minutes
Thanks a lot (again). π―
No problem! Just checked and AMPL is live π
on governace.. can I create new Denom such as... COIN ( coinbase listing on Nasdaq).
COIN is a stock, not a spot crypto asset
you technically could mint it, but it's not true to reality
Noted.. Thanks
I could mint spot asset for forex. such as Thai Baht (THB) against USDT? THB/USDT
and create proposal for that on Governace page?
TBH is also not really a crypto asset.. but you could do TBHT and call it Thai Baht Tether and list that against USDT π
If Baht stable coin have already been created by Terra and they call it THT. Could I just use that?
You can essentially mint anything right now (even a coin that doesn't exist). However, upon Mainnet proposed pairs must reflect reality and they must also be possible to integrate. For instance, if we were on Mainnet now and you proposed a BSC asset spot market it wouldn't be possible because we don't have cross-chain integration with BSC yet.
noted
@wicked ridge let me know what you end up proposing. i'll be able to help with the deposit and voting on it
hi, I could not see any 1000 coins on Injective chain or kovan testnet? Proposal ID: #P450 (Now I can find it... strange that I could not find it yesterday)
1000 was only for a certain set of users who prestaked earlier in the competition. i'll be happy to fill the deposit for your proposal for you. what is MSCI?
Proposal was for MSCI index
Thanks for the clarifications on the prestaking requirements to get the 1000 coins
A suggestion for the UI: provide a search interface to find our submitted proposal
deposited and voted
Thanks Michael
Thanks Michael
under ID 487.. I initially created UST/INJ. Next I would love to try UST/THT and then THT/INJ
why not inj/ust?
inverse pairs a little weird
if you make a new proposal for that one, i'll quickly top off the deposit and vote for it
ohh.. will redo..my bad. Did realized that
π
got you 4.5M yes votes sir
you need 6.3M for a quorum
team members go around every now and then and add votes
i'm sure you'll get there
Thank you.. will look to propose more interesting pair
when you first move your INJ to the staking, can you delegate votes right away? or do I have to wait for the 7 day period? i moved my KINJ to Kovan wallet but no INJ is showing up
did you transfer from kovan to injective chain in the wallet page?
yes
is it showing up in your injective chain balance under My Balances?
if so, you can delegate tokens right away
under my balance its showing 0
it can take up to 15 min
let's wait that long for it to show up
and let me know if it doesn't
boom
thanks!
So every once in a while I need to claim reward and re-delegate that or is there a system where it automatically does it for me ?
you just need to do it once to get the APY boost
your rewards are calculated from your total APY (baseline + boosts) applied to your initial deposit (pre-stake), so don't worry about the balance you see
it'll be the opposite way on mainnet of course (reclaim and delegate again means compounding), but this is how we train you for it π
just be sure to keep your initial prestaked amount delegated through the competition
so till mainnet I will only get APY on the pre-stake amount ?
yes
okay fair enough thanks
could someone please create new Denom for Mirror(MIR) thanks
I have created #p496 for UST/USDT... Hope it could be interesting for some.
done, give it about 10min to show up in the dropdown
cheers
it's there now. go for it
thanks
anyone who i can ask some noob questions in pm?
Hey
What is kinj?
Go ahead and ask them here π
Kovan INJ is just a test asset created for the purpose of Equinox Staking. It is minted for a user that deposits money into our deposit manager that lives on Ethereum Mainnet Network and keeps the user's funds safe. That way, the user can actually use the same amount he/she pre-staked (=deposited to the deposit manager) in a test and risk-free environment since we are still testing the functionality of our Injective Chain
Allright, just so I get this right; I transfered my binance INJ to metamask and from metamask to INJ prestaking site/wallet. (costed some ethereums to send etc)
after a week+ i was able to send my pre-stake INJ to the INJ chain.
Where I am now able to stake/vote/delegate, (un)bond and claim etc.
This is with the amount I have pre-staked too.
so far correct?
Well, you transferred your INJ from Binance to a MetaMask wallet and then you pre-staked your INJ to our deposit manager in Ethereum (your INJ never left Ethereum). At the same time, we minted KINJ (test asset) equal to the amount you deposited so that your funds remain secure in the deposit manager while you participate in the phase. Then the KINJ were bridged through our Ethereum bidirectional bridge and now you have INJ and interacting with the Injective chain, as such you are able to delegate/vote/unbond etc.
Are we going to keep the profits?
Allright, that actually makes sense. So the INJ's i have delegated/voted with etc are on the INJ network correct?
(or INJ chain)
The profits will be calculated at the end of the phase based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and the boosts completed. The rewards from validators and generally your KINJ/Injective Chain balance don't matter in the reward formula and you won't be able to keep them 1-1 either. At the end of the phase you'll withdraw the amount you pre-staked only and rewards will be also distributed to your Ethereum address directly
Yes, you are interacting with our own chain π
Ok. So lets say, and once agains orry for noob questions...
I had 100(example) INJ on binance.
Transferred to Metamask and prestaked in your deposit manager., (a 'vault' in your management?)
From that 100ish INJ you minted KINJ (100ish) . THis amount (after a week or so) came 'free' for me to transfer to the INJ chain and for me to use in tjhe delegating etc?
No worries, ask away. The INJs are stored in a deposit manager which is also audited by Certik as to provide assurances that your funds will remain secure. This amount became instantly available to you (in KINJ), you didn't have to wait a week and yes you transferred your KINJ over to the Injective Chain. You would had to wait a week if you wanted to withdraw to Ethereum (aka move the funds from the deposit manager contract back to your Ethereum address), which if you do you forfeit your rights for rewards at the end of the phase.
So what I am seeing atm on the staking site; your INj balance 0, total pre-staked INJ 100 (example)
And on the [wallet] tab i see again the prestaked amount (100 xample) . But now I also see another amount KINJ...
on kovan testnet balance
what is that?:D
and where does it come from?
You probably see the Injective Chain balance to 0 because you have your tokens delegated to a validator. If you unbond your tokens from a validator they will show in your injective chain balance but right now they are staked with them. You can transfer the KINJ you see over to the Injective Chain and utilize them. If you are talking about the 1000 KINJ, they are test tokens that the team minted to ease the process of governance and generally allow you to test our chain further. Rewards will be calculated in the end based on the pre-staked amount, the day you pre-staked and the boosts completed the KINJ and INJ don't matter and have no value.
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ahh ok so basicly; the pre-staked amount is "locked" and after the phase thΓ‘t amount will be the actual owned amount which we can use + rewards will be sent to ethereum adres?
Your pre-staked amount will basically just return to you (you will withdraw it yourself) and then we will calculate the rewards you are to receive and send them to your Ethereum address directly π
Allright, so whatever i do with my INJ's on the INJ chain is still a 'test' aka a mock?
Correct. They have no value, we could simply just mint 1000 more and send them to everybody, they are not real INJ.
Yes π
This phase is basically designed to test every component of our chain and ensure we are ready for Mainnet by incentivizing our users to participate
Is there an indication how long this fase will last?
Well Mainnet is in Q2 which means between April and June
i hope no longer than a month
I apreciate your time and answers achilleas
You're welcome! No problem π
Is it possible for me to get my deposit back on rejected proposal? To make a new proposal?
Hey, it depends on the outcome your proposal had. See here and let me know if you have any questions: #π€ο½explain-like-im-5 message
You will only get the deposit if the proposal was rejected (but had reached quorum) or accepted and thus passed otherwise the tokens are burned.
All right, so to make a new proposal, I'll have to get 1000 INJ ready once again?
You can make a new proposal with just 1 INJ but your proposal must have 1000 INJ to pass to the voting stage. If you don't have 1000 INJs you would essentially create the proposal with less and ask fellow community members or team members to chip in so that your proposal passes to the voting stage
hey, are the special epic tasks released yet? I think ive completed all staking tasks and i got my proposal passed woooo
Well done! We haven't released the epic tasks yet π
Will there be derivatives listings tested for governance issues, or is the process not too dissimilar
Sure. We'll have derivatives proposals.
When a proposal is rejected but not vetoed, how long will it take for the original deposit to return to our INJ Wallet? My proposal was rejected about 3 hours ago.
Hey, did it reach quorum? What's the ID?
no one did a theta/usdt yet?
@tall plover not that i saw
Yeah, I just checked it and unfortunately it didn't reach quorum which means that the tokens were burned. For a proposal to reach quorum, 33.4% of the total staked coins must have voted in so basically since we have around 19m coins staked you would need more than 6m votes but your proposal had 48k.
saylavee
To reach quorum you essentially have to come in here and ask team members to vote on your proposal (even if it's just abstain). Go ahead and try to propose theta/usdt and i'll support π
same i'll vote on theta/usdt pair as well
Ok thank you writing up now
#P509 - THETA/USDT
just finished - thank you
@hollow tulip @tall plover
deposited and voted
Hello, now with the recent upgrade that adds EIP-712 Reading to the Trezor, i can stake my INJ that are in MetaMask + Trezor?
Not yet. We must wait for Trezor to release an update
Ok, maybe next firmware update, right?
exactly
Do you know when can se expect that firmware upgrade from tem?
I do not know
Ok, thank you!
are we going to be able to keep our 1000inj from testnet, im guessing not?
no. you will only get the amount you pre-staked back, plus rewards which the team will manually calculate and distribute. your injective chain balance is just to help you complete tasks
cool thats what i thought, thx
guys appreciate if can help to vote P496 and P498 any of this.. cheers
Hi, I could not locate my proposal at all. Could someone please tell me if the proposal has passed? My cosmos acct: inj1074lpp3mvfq72tnyq5pmx9ft6p86vz0put3vre
Apologies.. saw it in the rejection list
Hi Michael, can you deposit stakes for P516? Thanks.
oh ... i c... will create another one

Hi, I would like to add a new DENOM REEF (ERC20 token) which is not in the current list. The address is :0xFE3E6a25e6b192A42a44ecDDCd13796471735ACf . I could not add this after submitting.
Hi Michael, can you help with deposits for proposal P521? Thks
Last proposal that passed was 5 days ago.. any reason for that?
There's a second page with more proposals and there are some which passed yesterday and the day before π
I just created REEF for you
my bad
No worries
Hello. Does anybody know if there are any exchanges trading the native INJ yet?
Our Mainnet is in Q2 so for you to buy INJ from an exchange and send them them to our chain would mean that we are on Mainnet and we also have a bridge for that which is not possible yet.
Thanks Achilleas
Uniswap seems the best way for now. You can get the ERC 20 token
How do you add a new denom? Does an admin have to do it or can we do it manually?
Hey, follow this guide and let me know if you need any help π #πγ»dev-support message
Thanks, sir. I will do that later when I am at my computer, I am safe to connect my meta mask wallet to that?
No problem, you'd have to connect you wallet to mint a token and add it. If you don't want to do that I can mint it for you.
Okay. I will reach out to you in the future
Hi - i've just deposited some INJ into pre staking, and switched to KOvan testnet bu they're not showing up in my Kovan balance? Its been about 5 mintutes since the Tx comfirmed
Hey, let's wait a few more minutes to be sure. Could you please send me your ETH wallet address in a DM to check?
I was reading about the EIP-712 update, and thought I would now be able to stake with my trezor, but it is still giving me the same issue. Is there anything extra I need to do?
we all have to wait for trezor to integrate the change and publish a firmware update
yes
any eta on that? or a response from trezor team
no
Hi, can someone help with deposit for P516 ?
sir
make a proper spot market and i'll deposit and vote
i did deposit and vote on your P521, however
Thanks Michael! How many votes are needed to pass a proposal and after how long?
first you need a quorum of votes (even if they abstain), so a total of 6.3m or so voters. you will have to find another team member to vote on your proposal. then it's >50% yes votes to pass
i believe the time remaining is shown on your proposal page
So hard to track what were owned by one.... hope the interface will show what you have created or allow search ....
the staking interface for mainnet will certainly make that easier
I have also tried to create a new DENOM, I key in the ERC-20 token address and error shows up. Is this feature avail now?
what's the token address that you are trying to enter?
0x6468e79a80c0eab0f9a2b574c8d5bc374af59414
I c... thot they mention ERC-20 token
it has to be minted on kovan
you can use this tool to easily mint any erc-20 on kovan
just make sure to select kovan here
Ok noted π
hi, how do I create Silver (synthetic Commodity) denom, Copper, Platinum.
against USDT
Also Crude Oil, Brent or WTI.
Agricultural product such as, Wheat, cattle, cotton, Cocoa, Soy bean
For spot market proposals?
yes
the last 20 messages or so in this channel tell you exactly how
π
Ok.. done. It's working. Thanks
Itβs quiet here π we need the special tasks to get some βroarβ in π
π
I know πͺ
is there a future plan to transfer to Injection without cost from binance
no. binance determines their own withdrawal fees.
Yes, bosses, it would be nice to farm inj as single asset on pancake or autofarm
Inj w bnb LP Is risky
@hollow tulip - I worked with @primal terrace (Telegram) to get one of my proposals passed but the last 3 proposal all got rejected (each time insufficient quorum). He advised me to reach out to you here. I created a new proposal (#532) but I don't have any longer sufficient funds to bring it to the voting stage. Is there are any chance that you could help to get this to the voting stage and then passed? Many thanks & keep up the great work!
Hi Michael, all my previous proposals have been rejected too. No idea why the last one was rejected (P521). P521 in the rejected list has the depositor info and voters info removed. I remembered seeing quite a few voters (YES) when it was in the voting stage. So just created P538 and hope you can assist ... really hope to see this proposal passed
I have this one open right now and it still has all the vote and deposit info. It failed because it did not reach quorum (requires ~6.3M total votes, yours only had 4.56M on it mostly from me). I will help with 538 but make sure to find an additional team member here to vote on it. You will need two of us to reach quorum.
Deposited and voted on it. Make sure to find another team member to vote on it so it can reach quorum.
Thanks so much, Michael! @kind flare Any chance you could please also vote for proposal #532? π
sure, its done
Thanks so much, Bojan!
One of the pools I'm staked with is Huobipool. For some reason though I haven't received delegation rewards from them for a few days?
it shows 0 claimable?
it looks like houbipool is unbonded
you may want to re-delegate
yeah you're going to have to re-delegate to another validator
Oh ok - I'll redelegate

An auto-redelegate option would be immense should such a thing ever become possible to implement
how would it know which validator to re-delegate to?
Preference list, or random even. If I go hike Everest, I won't know if a validator becomes unbonded in my absence
how often do you hike everest? jc
Another thing - at the bottom of my screenshot is a Helios Staking Delegation Reward of zero. It has been a while since I redelegated from them - at some point they should be removed under Delegation Rewards shouldn't they?
Huobi Pool now have been, but Helios Staking remains
Never, but I like to go out into the desert for a few weeks every year.
The Unbonding Time would probably be around 21 days upon Mainnet, so given that you check the validator status once every few weeks, you would know when to re-delegate π
Excellent. In all likelihood, I'd check it very often, but I'm into crypto. Other users might check it less
There was a rounding bug a few weeks ago, so if you claimed rewards from Helios a while back that would be the issue unless it's recent. Could you re-delegate a few INJ to Helios and then claim? If that's the issue it would probably fix it.
Will try
Great, let us know if that doesn't fix it and the team will look into it π
It fixes it
Out of interest, are the validators active on here at all? I'd imagine they're very interested in all this
in this channel?
Yeah
they have their own private channel where we help them debug issues
this channel is just for delegator issues
Ah ok fair enough
Is it possible to add more inj to my pre stake? would i get the baseline apy + bonuses from the day i add?
Correct
That's usually the timeframe for cosmos-based blockchains but as a parameter it could always change if the community decides to do so through governance.
Think it is 2 weeks for Kava, but 3 is ok I think. I'm certainly not likely to want to sell what I've staked in a hurry. Looking forward to 2022!!
Hey team! Quick question: what is the date range from the pre-stake period, or what date did it end?
march 17 to 29
Thank you!
Thanks Michael and all those who voted... I see P538 has quite a number of voters supporting it but I can't tell from the interface if quorum is reached. The interface only shows close to 100% Yes.
Quorum is 6.4M votes
Hey Michael, quick question. If I need to withdraw some of my staked tokens off the testnet , is there a waiting period until I am able to obtain them?
If you are able to withdraw (7 days from depositing), there is no waiting period except mainnet ethereum tx time. Note that if you withdraw any of your staked tokens, you will forfeit your eligibility to receive any and all rewards you have accrued and continue to accrue in the staking competition
No. The act of withdrawing eliminates your wallet address's eligibility for the competition
can i get another vote for P321 tyy
321? algo/usdt?
I think it got rejected, do i have to propose again?
yes
you had my votes but you need to find an additional team member to vote on it so it has a quorum
Ah ok, unfortunately used the 1000 tokens for that
use 1, i'll deposit the rest
says spot market already exist if i try make another
deposited and voted. just make sure to find another team member to also vote to get a quorum
thanks Michael π
hi, for proposal which have been rejected. Do I get the Inj in my inj chain back?
did your proposal receive a quorum of votes? over 6.3M votes?
nope only 4.5 M got rejected
then you do not get it back
luckily it's inconsequential for your reward for the whole staking competition, which depends only on your initial prestaked amount (multiplied by the APY) and not how much inj chain you have
say. I ran out of Inj in the INJ Chain. Do I Unstake then restake to start the process over?
do you mean unbond, or withdraw?
withdraw
that would make you ineligible for any rewards for your wallet address
I still have some. Just asking , proposed on the governance and it's running out
if you want to try another proposal, just deposit 1 inj with it
i can deposit the rest
I proposes number 529 and 530. Would appreciate.. thanks
done and done
cheers
if you want it to get a quorum you absolutely must find another team member here to vote on it (even if just abstaining)
i think i was most of your 4.5M votes last time
yes.. π»
would appreciate for other team members to support @winged maple @kind flare Cheers
Hi, how do I know if I have received quorum for my proposal P538?
Hello Delegators @here ,
It's been great journey so far. We had great learnings running testnet for last 2 weeks.
Thank you for all the support.
We will be upgrading the chain with new features & optimisations in next 15 minutes.
This upgrade consists of
- Bridge relayer optimisations to reduce infura calls and auto re-sync.
- Update Slashing conditions.
- New features and improvements in the Exchange, Auction & Insurance modules
The chain will be halted during upgrade. We will update you once upgrade is successful.
Looking forward to the update
Where will the tokens come from which we're earning APY for? Partly from the unlock? Is it part of one of the Community Growth / Ecosystem Development pots perhaps?
We'll have more details for this once Equinox Staking gets close to the end
Everytime I see news from INJ staff , I hope it will be something about the main net release π
Can't stand waiting I want the best DeX ever to be launched for my birthday june 19th β€οΈ
Hey, what action are you trying to perform?
I get errors too when trying to claim/vote (upon approving the transaction), it could be related with the latest chain upgrade. Maybe something for our team to look into @dim pendant @kind flare


