unofficial-setup-help

[grave sigil]

Good morning, I have a cluster with all the maps plus Svartalfheim and Amissa on my own server. After yesterday's major update, all maps except Aberration are freezing 20 seconds after someone logs into the server. The subsequent update with the fixes had no effect; only Aberration remains without problems.

[tardy cradle]

We also have one map that works. On the others, the game crashes when someone logs in.

[grave sigil]

Is your map that's still online also the Aberration map?

[tardy cradle]

No only Rygnarok is online

[valid marten]

Guys, does anyone know a command to put in the INI file to change the fishing loot? I'd like to only fish a certain item. If anyone knows, can they message me here or privately? I'm trying, but so far I'm not catching anything.

[gray tundra]

Are you guys self hosting or nitrado hosting ? @tardy cradle @grave sigil

[grave sigil]

self hosting on my own dedicated machine

[gray tundra]

Can you see any CPU/RAM/Datastream spikes on freeze ?

[grave sigil]

I haven't been able to monitor it yet, but I'll check here and get back to you.

[gray tundra]

Thanks, it might help look if there is a certain angle we need to look at for diagnostics 🙂 (we cause im self hosting too, so helping you might help me if i get the same thing sometime)

If you have the possibilty maybe consider Zabbix agent on your machine and use Zabbix server to monitor your hardware

[grave sigil]

I monitored the situation, and during the map freeze, there was no increase in processing power consumption, only a slight increase in RAM consumption when you log into the map, and then everything freezes after 20 seconds.

[gray tundra]

For all players ?

How high RAM load is your machine running on ? Like with all maps on ?

[grave sigil]

When the first player logs in, the map freezes after 20 seconds, and other players lose access. The map remains active, but external access is blocked.

The map is not responding to RCON either.

192 gb ram

with all maps aprox 90 gb ram

[gray tundra]

Even the island sometimes doesnt respond to rcon.. Its annoying because im trying to build a watchdog script and i dont wanna base it purely on PID presence

[tardy cradle]

self hosting

Everything was working perfectly before the update

[gray tundra]

Can you try with a clean map and save ? Create a new instance and see if it does the same ?

[grave sigil]

in ascended RCON is apparently working partially and usually stops responding after a few seconds, requiring a new connection, but it is useful for simple tasks such as killing wilddinos, saving the world, player communications, etc.

[grave sigil]

yes not working even in fresh map

The strangest thing was that one of the cluster maps was not affected by the problem.

[gray tundra]

Current script version does a new rcon connection on every run. It is intended to run in 5 minute intervals. Check for PID presence, RCON connectivity. Based on that do a clean-start of the server in case it is not working

[gray tundra]

Is there any difference with that one map ?

[grave sigil]

Nothing that can isolate it, apparently something random, because in another cited case something similar occurred with a different map.

[gray tundra]

Do you have the logs still from when you did the update ?

[grave sigil]

Yes, nothing abnormal about them, the map simply freezes without any event being logged.

[tardy cradle]

We have the same problem

[gray tundra]

But nothing seen either when you did the update in steamcmd output ?

Are you doing everything by hand or are you using some manager overlay ?

[candid veldt]

Running into the same issue here. Servers freeze after first player login.

[gray tundra]

You guys using some management tool ?

[grave sigil]

I figured out what was happening; it was only allowing one map at a time per IP address. I turned off my Aberration and turned on only Astraeos, and it's working perfectly. I loaded Aberration again, and it froze.

[grave sigil]

I figured out what was happening; it was only allowing one map at a time per IP address. I turned off my Aberration and turned on only Astraeos, and it's working perfectly. I loaded Aberration again, and it froze.

[gray tundra]

You do use different ports per server right ?

[grave sigil]

do the same test

[candid veldt]

Interesting... I have half of my servers running on a Windows server (shared IP), and half of the servers running on Docker containers on Linux. They get their own internal IPs and indeed only the Windows servers have been showing this issue...

[tardy cradle]

I'm passing this information on to the technician

[tardy cradle]

How to fix ?

[grave sigil]

Without a solution, unless there's an update that fixes this, it will become unfeasible for the vast majority of those who use their own machine as a host, due to the complexity of having to manage multiple IPs on a single machine.

[tardy cradle]

My friend also has his own machine, all the maps, and everything works for him

[grave sigil]

They must be using Linux to manage it, but that's not feasible for me; I prefer to shut it down.

[shut lily]

I have a cluster with over 100 players waiting to play with the same issue. Self hosted on 2 dedi machines in my home and the maps just crash after someone joins. Sometimes I can get them to work for a bit but then the right person logs in and accesses a transmitter or drop and the server crashes again and will usually start crashing as soon as you boot it up again.

I have been running these servers since january with no issues, have $3000 worth of hardware and only run them at about 60% utilization. I use ASM to manage them. I spent 10hrs yesterday troubleshooting and it seems to crash even with fresh maps, no mods, no plugins, ect... sometimes doing things like changing cluster folder can fix it for a bit. I use -usestore for player saves.

Also my maps still crash even if you only have 1 map going

[grave sigil]

I figured out what was happening; it was only allowing one map at a time per IP address. I turned off my Aberration and turned on only Astraeos, and it's working perfectly. I loaded Aberration again, and it froze. In summary, only one map is allowed at a time per IP address until this is fixed.

[shut lily]

That's weird cause last night I turned off all 10 of my maps and just used 1 for testing and that 1 was still crashing

I did notice the same things some were reporting that 1 of my maps just worked and never crashed so idk

Even when running all 10 my center map would never crash

[granite compass]

same problem with my cluster

[shut lily]

Are you guys using a shared network folder for clustering by chance?

Cause when I turn off clustering for my cluster they run perfectly fine

[candid veldt]

I just figured that out as well. If I change the cluster id for the server, people can join perfectly fine...

[shut lily]

Yeah I figured that out before I went to bed

I am gonna try turning the whole cluster on with a new cluster id now I just woke up

Hopefully its a fix and doesnt just start acting up again. Literally no idea why changing cluster id would fix it

[candid veldt]

So it might have to do with locking the cluster dir then. My Linux servers mount the cluster directory over network, so locking might have a different effect there than on the Windows servers...

[shut lily]

But I figured out it had to be something with clustering when I turned off clustering and the servers were fine

Unsure what you mean by locking

I know with my cluster I just share a folder and have both machines point to the same cluster folder

I saw a suggestion while digging that having separate folders and using a script to share files over them every 5 seconds would be less problematic but idk

[candid veldt]

There is a log message about a mutex, essentially making sure only one server can write to the cluster dir at a time (a file lock).

My Linux servers don't really care about filesystem-level locks on a directory shared by a Windows server...

So I only observe this issue on the Windows servers that share this cluster dir on the local file system.

[shut lily]

Ah. I was checking every lig I could find and didnt see any message about anything sadly

Do you think having 2 cluster folders and writing a script to send files back and forth every 5 seconds could help? Since the program is kinda forcing it to be shared but not really

[candid veldt]

It could help if it is indeed a filesystem-level locking mechanism that's causing the issue...

[shut lily]

I kinda wanna try bringing them up with the new cluster ID to see if its a real fix for science or if its gonna start crashing again

[candid veldt]

I changed the cluster id of one of my servers and it worked just fine.

[shut lily]

Cause I tested it with 2 maps last night and seemed to work

[candid veldt]

But yeah, that will break transfers

[shut lily]

And was able to transfer and everything

Well I changed the cluster ID on both

[candid veldt]

Oh interesting

[shut lily]

I only had me join and transfer so I wont know for sure

I will try it if it doesnt work I will try the new clustering method and see

[candid veldt]

After the transfer, could you interact with anything?

[shut lily]

Oh yeah

I ran them for 20 mins

Was 2 of the maps crashing the quickest too

And they are on different machines

[grave sigil]

It's likely that with the accumulation of data in the new cluster, it will freeze again; tests would have to be done with several different players.

[shut lily]

Yeah im thinking so

Its so weird cause deleting the contents of the cluster folder did nothing

But renaming the cluster folder did

How does that make any sense

Does everyone else on here share a cluster folder across network too?

[limpid parcel]

I also do this and am also having the same issue but it doesn't seem to be affecting all maps only around 3 4

[shut lily]

Its doing the same for most of us. Some maps arent affected and some work for longer but still crash.

Are you using a shared network folder for your cluster folder?

[limpid parcel]

Yes shared network folder. For the cluster folder.

[shut lily]

I think that is something all of us have in common with this issue

I have heard of folks using a one drive folder for their cluster folder maybe it would be a quick fix for this

[spare meadow]

Hey i'm having an issue right now on my Steam server. Characters get deleted when transferring. What could be the reason for this?

[grave sigil]

It's very likely related to what happened; in my cluster, this started occurring more frequently after the release of Lost Colony.

[vague prism]

All these updates but they can’t fix the issue of stuff going missing after every update

[dense onyx]

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رجعو فلوسي شاريه في القيم بأس واستيم

[limpid parcel]

To what end I have a non root folder set up as a network hosted folder much like one drive would be what difference is there? Did you get any further with your testing of new folder and IDs?

[narrow kindle]

So I dont know if its related but up to now I have been using a cluster directory specifically and I have not yet had an issue when trasferring

[limpid parcel]

Elaborate on your setup so we may text 😅

Test

[dry badge]

has there been any update or word on the duplication of items after transfers??? this needs to get fixed 😵‍💫

[limpid parcel]

I mean most of us just want it to not crash a map on transfer or log in 🤣

[broken sorrel]

Hey my friend got sever from nitrado and it shows up but it’s all grayed out plus when we try to join it say refresh and he’s reset the sever and still shows the same thing

[celest igloo]

Yes..i wait too for a fix..

[candid veldt]

I've just given servers a random cluster id and disabled transfers for now to fix the freezing issues... Will wait for a fix...

[dry badge]

we’ve done this too. it’s extremely frustrating it’s gone on for almost 12 hours, just in our server, with multiple complaints and NOTHING said

[shut lily]

btw I swapped my cluster to using onedrive as a cluster directory and its working

if yall are on windows and hosting a shared network folder i would do that if you dont wanna write a filesharing program between 2 local cluster folders

all maps are up have almost 30 people on no issues for an hour

ik this sadly wont help linux folks. also this fix is only for self hosted windows clusters with 2 machines not nitrado

[candid veldt]

For me, I ran two servers with two completely different "ClusterDirOverride" paths but with the same "ClusterId", and they froze up as well...

[dry badge]

we’re on nitrado servers 😵‍💫

[next charm]

I'm trying to get fast breeding, maturation and imprinting on my single player but I must have done something wrong because my bronto will be imprintable for the first time in 17 real life days. What setting do I need to change so I need maximum 1 imprint but make sure I can do it on all dino babies?

[shut lily]

Yeah for nitrado your only option is to disable transferring with items or uploading items or just disable clustering altogether until wildcard releases a fix. If you disable clustering make sure you have -notransferfromfiltering enabled or people will be able to upload things from singleplayer

Im sure they will have a fix today

[dry badge]

i really hope so cause they still haven’t said a single word on it yet 😵‍💫

[tardy shore]

Good evening Is it possible to block object transfer without blocking upload to ark data?

[limpid parcel]

so im just testing as jordan did the new id and new cluster folder non networked and it seems to have resolved it also

[tardy shore]

So, is there a solution for the transfer dupe or not? I've disabled item transfer for now to prevent duplication, but I wanted to allow players to upload items and cryo-boxes to the ark.

[shut lily]

no fix until wildcard releases a update. all nitrado servers that have modified stack sizes are in your same shoes.

[tardy shore]

so with the original unmodified stacks the problem shouldn't occur?

[shut lily]

i am unsure

[weary verge]

guys, anyone know how to make quest (without the lethal plugins ) ?

[limpid parcel]

build your own api if you dont want to pay for theirs or find a mod that can do it

[weary verge]

you guys know some mods?

[long meadow]

our cluster is running on Windows and got the same issue with the freezing after joining
only to remove the ClusterID and add -notransferfromfiltering helping for playing (looks good atm)
hopfully there is a hotfix soon

[limpid parcel]

i changed the cluster id and cluster folder and it seems to have resolved it and they are still clustered and can be transfered between

[long meadow]

😱 you didnt change something else...just the cluster-ID and ClusterDir
do you use windows and a shared folder?

[limpid parcel]

i use windows changed the id and cluster dir i removed the network share from it tho

[grave sigil]

Problem solved, the issue wasn't about not being able to use the same IP address for maps by only changing the connection ports; it was about the cloud storage for character files and travel. Now it can no longer be stored locally; it's mandatory to use a drive with an IP connection. You can use an SMB drive on the local network for this; in my case, I used an internal IP address, for example: ClusterDirOverride="\192.168.254.252\g\CLUSTER"

Shared network paths should also work without problems, you just can't use paths on the server's local drive, it must be a network path.

[onyx marsh]

Any last ditch advice on not being able to connect to my dedicated server, that is on my same machine and is properly running? I get the "ip ifor incoming account" in the log but then time out. I have tried deleting all saved arks, multiple maps, and no mods, and verifying files. Last option is a full uninstall reinstall which I'm trying to avoid. EDIT - update fr server sitting in steam for 3 days, updating fixed it

[next charm]

Is there an ini setting which increases crafting speed of the fabricator and craftingbench and a way to increase honey and oil production?

[near hawk]

Don't think there's such thing, would need a mod for that

[long meadow]

so if i maped the path networkshare it wont work?
i used windows an maped the sharefolder on the letter T like "T:\ARK Transfer"

[grave sigil]

Probably not, because I was using a local path before and the maps would freeze after 20 seconds; only one would remain functional.

After I created the SMB path and specified it in the map's start menu, everything went back to normal; it even became faster and more stable.

It seems to have resolved the map transfer freezes as well.

[valid marten]

duplicated Bug is fix it ?

[gray tundra]

makes sense acutally... SMB would also be a preferred way to do this. AD/DC setup does also help with making it easy with central accounts and GP's

thanks for the information and testing 🫶

[long meadow]

was your cluster folder on the same host?
i tried WAN IP (is my local ip), 127.0.0.1 and my vpn IP, but nothing work

[grave sigil]

My cluster folder is on a different drive and a different machine on the same local network, so I mapped it on the server and pasted the IP address into the start of each map.

[distant stump]

did anyone else get blocked from downloading this latest server update when logging in anonymously? This has never happened before - I got "access denied" from depot 2430931

[grave sigil]

You can even use the USB port on your Wi-Fi router to create an SMB drive using a USB flash drive, add that network location to the server, and paste the IP address. It's a very affordable option.

[celest halo]

thats not the app id for it

[dry badge]

our unofficial server is set to pve, we haven’t switch anyyyy setting regarding osds before/after the new patch, one of our players streamed for us and we got a clip of it, he is able to damage the osd he’s currently doing on astraeos. and we weren’t able to before the patch. has this happened to anyone after the patch.

[long meadow]

i see
with my test nothing work on this way

but, if i change my cluster-ID, it works currently with 2 test systems ❤️

[grave sigil]

3 maps in my cluster had the same problem; they were reset to the game's default settings. Check all the settings on the affected maps; other settings may also have been reset.

[dry badge]

unfortunately they haven’t been changed, still the same.

[dreamy aurora]

Hey everyone,

Since the major update yesterday, has anyone else experienced items just disappearing?

On my server, several players have lost everything that was stored in their vaults, and also all blueprints that were in the library storage.

Even when I load an older backup/rollback, the items are still gone.

Is this a known issue or bug related to the latest update, or are we the only ones having this problem?

[severe sail]

Hey everyone,
my community and I have a different problem since yesterday's update. Our resources double after every trip

[slim fractal]

Same has been happening with me I think it’s a ark problem overall. I’m also having a problem where when transferring with Dino’s like scorched acros they are not throwable and stats are messed up.

[gray tundra]

I think for cluster purposes its better to do NVMe drive right ?

[long meadow]

currently we got just freezing server, if someone joining
until i changed the Cluster-ID to a different one, it works again

lost item:
only player/inventory and this happen since the 50/50 patch at the begining of March -.-
some days/weeks it works great...and the rest is sooo hard broken
we use the inventory saver to restore the lost inventory (yeah its a bit admin workload)

[bleak zinc]

Yes . I wait too for a fix. 😔

[bleak zinc]

I have the same problem on my cluster and i'm waiting for an update that fixes this issue.😪

[grave sigil]

Cluster files are quite small, so a good quality USB drive will suffice if you connect it directly to a network router. Of course, if you can invest in an NVMe drive in a USB enclosure or even a NAS, you'll have better performance when transferring characters between maps.

[dry badge]

items duping!! same here and they’ve said NOTHING

[grave sigil]

These duplicates and missing items are probably related to the change in how the cluster communicates, now requiring a connection IP to function correctly. I don't think an update will easily reverse this since the official network and nitrado servers weren't affected. After I changed the way I connected to the cluster, everything went back to normal, with even better performance.

[polar dagger]

rented nitrado servers are effected with the duping problems.

But cluster communication works flawless, also no problem with proton/windows cluster. It has no duping and also still working with the same/current config:
-ClusterDirOverride="/home/gameserver/cluster-shared"

[scenic marten]

playing via geforcenow and all my stackable items filled up to max stack, anyone knows how to fix it? my own 2 nitrado servers

[bleak ivy]

what do you mean? like the stacks aren't going to what you set them to?

[scenic marten]

when im transfering with for example a stack of 100 stone arrows and max stack is 200 i spawn in my base to which im transfering with 200 stone arrows

edit: same for lamb chops and many other items

[bleak ivy]

others have mentioned transfer problems with higher stacks I imagine we just gotta wait until wildcard fixes it.

[scenic marten]

hmm not cool honestly but well i guess its ark again

[dry badge]

every stackable item has been doing this with EVERY TRANSFER for almost 24 HOURS . yet nooooo update from wildcard.

[dry badge]

do we know if they have said anything about it?? or if they’re going to 😵‍💫😅

[last magnet]

I'm selfhosted and I did notice freezing on transfer but no item duping. It was on the transfer back, I think I did it too fast and should have stayed on the 2nd map until the save went through then transferred

[severe sail]

Yes, I was only informed around 10 pm and they had all already done bosses etc...

The best way to set it up is so that players have to upload everything and only have to travel over naked. That way nothing gets duplicated. I've been working on setting that up since yesterday.

[dry badge]

how do i set this up?

[severe sail]

Is your server running on Nitrado?

[dry badge]

yes

[severe sail]

For each of your maps, go to the web interface, shut down the server, then go to Settings, Crossark, and then to Restrictions.

[serene osprey]

Done

[dry badge]

what restrictions do we turn on?

[dry badge]

im a bittt confused lol

[flat flume]

Would be nice to get an update on the custom stack size on unofficial fix

[serene osprey]

Seriously. Not only that issue, but our metal ingot stack size reduced for some reason

From 65k to 19.5k

[severe sail]

@dry badge
We have disabled item download and upload under certain restrictions. Players can only take their dinos with them if they place them next to them and then upload them.

[loud basin]

I had to do the same thing on my servers... You can imagine the hassle... I hope it gets resolved quickly. Do we have any information on whether they plan to work on the problem or if they don't care?

Because it's all well and good to sign an exclusivity agreement, but when the partner keeps messing things up...

[severe sail]

@dry badge
Please do not activate item upload and download under restrictions, but rather activate item duplicate check under general settings. Nitrado has messed up again and removed the checkmark for this setting. That's why our players were able to duplicate all items.

[serene osprey]

Wait. omg. so if we enable this, does it completely fix it?

ours is still on

[severe sail]

Yes

[serene osprey]

yeah our dupe check was still ticked on. Still having the issue

[severe sail]

I traveled from Iceland to Abe. No items in my inventory were duplicated.

[serene osprey]

that sucks. ours is on and still having the issue

any chance you could test more transfers? If it works, ill turn it off, restart, turn it back on, and restart again

[lilac heart]

can confirm. my cluster is having the issue too

and unknown's mod for "Nitrado dupe fix" is not working

[vale galleon]

someone having issues on astraeos with supply drops vanishing? they spawn and disappear instantly

any idea welcome

[serene osprey]

are you using custom drops?

[vale galleon]

yes

[serene osprey]

Its because you have an item within your drop that can't be recognized by ark. For example, we made white drops give our players chibis. When first writing the drops, we used the random chibi path for the item. That is not an actual blueprint path within ark.

if you want, feel free to dm me and i can take a look at the drop configuration for you

[vale galleon]

ah okay, bit weird cuz it worked a while and since this night it stopped. can do that though, ty 🙂

using beacon so though it's failsafe

[serene osprey]

could be a couple of different things, that's just the primary one. More than happy to take a look for you

[vale galleon]

send u DM 🤓

[polar dagger]

When you're re-enable the additional dupe check on nitrado it may (warning: I can't test this, can anybody confirm this? Update: Some say it won't help!!!) fix the dupe on transfers, but other Mods (where create/spawn items) will not working correctly.

Nitrado/Wildcard should fix their custom transfer logic, that's the main problem and not depending on a dupe protection!

[dry badge]

it’s been over 24 hours with absolutely NO WORD on this it’s unbelievable

[strange mortar]

Character loss while transferring is also back

[polar dagger]

Maybe Nitrado should be blamed, because they did some voodoo in their cluster transfer logic... Self hosted Servers do not have these problems currently.

[glacial widget]

Some do. And most of them have issues with data loss in the form of items vanishing, characters duplicating, etc. And Wildcard hasn't even acknowledged it for months.

[polar dagger]

I do not have this issues, but I also do not use the new save format (with the profiles included)..

But in the end it's a mess !

[jade tangle]

Hi everyone,
my dedicated server tends to crash a lot when several players enter a town in the Lost Colony map. Have you experienced this issue as well, and if so, have you found a solution?

[stark thorn]

thank you i have just checked and all 27 servers have been unchecked

[magic creek]

Nothing was duplicated with me and Lunameira, but the problem persisted, we have now disabled the item transfer

[rough crater]

If someone still plays ASE in single player I'm up for ARK dino trades. DM me for infos.

[stark thorn]

I tried dupe option and i have been told gear has stopped duping but stacks of items are still broken

[quasi swallow]

hey i'm having trouble joining my local server on xbox

my server is running and says it is joinable but when i search for it it says no sessions found

[quasi swallow]

helllllllooooooooooooooooo😭

[dry badge]

has there genuinely been no answer on why the hell items are being duped by double with every single transfer??????

[upper anchor]

@bleak ivy @solemn grove Can you pass this message up to the devs ^

It's seriously affecting a ton of unofficial servers

[wraith flume]

Until then, have eveyone upload their items to inventory cloud before transferring to avoid duplicates

[stark salmon]

are servers down i cant find the one ive been playing for a couple of weeks

[gritty minnow]

Guys, I need help. The server I play on (unofficial) is deleting the dinosaurs. This happens as soon as the player spawns; apparently, the server detects them as corrupted and deletes them

[serene osprey]

I have a player in my cluster who got a new PC and transferred his HDD to the new one. After loading back in, he noticed his implant was gone, his base was gone, couldn't die, couldn't interatct with anything, and no dinos were spawning. He reinstalled the game, didn't work, reinstalled the map, didn't work, and reinstalled mods, didnt work. His tribe member was on at the same time and said his character was just sleeping but on his screen everything was there. Same for me .

I killed his player and got his loot, had him create a new character, and every time he does this, he black screens. Tried a different map, no issues but can't transfer to his home map.

Any ideas??

[plain stream]

Had this problem for months and they refuse to look into it.

[dire lodge]

Has anyone had issues where server boots and gets stuck on ticking loop and wont give the broadcasting log

[last magnet]

sounds like a mod gone bad or the map file is corrupt

[upper anchor]

If your community isn't that big maybe tell them to re-place their storages, etc and then do a world save

[dry badge]

is there going to be anything said about the duping transfer issues???

[willow quarry]

Hello, since the last Ark update, resources are being duplicated again when changing maps on my Ark Nitrado server. Can anyone help me? If you can, please send me a private message. Thanks.

[gray tundra]

just scroll back up and start reading you will get more info that way

[sharp vessel]

Hello guys !
I'm launching a stone in the void but I'm still trying.

I have a cluster of 10 servers, I'm trying to dispatch every reboot at different hours to avoid an overflow on the machine.
But, from 1 year ago almost, everytime there's a mod update, we need to download the "right" version available on the server.

So, if a version is different from a server to another, you must have the downgrade or the upgrade of the mod.
This thing is happening each time you are transferring, that's logic, but everytime the installation is finished, you got a message saying "This action will cancel your character transfer. Are you sure ?"
If you typing "Cancel", nothing is happening, and if you click "Yes", you are redirected on the main menu.
When you have that, you must connect to the origin server but you have the different version of the mod, so for example, with CS+, you can't see the item of the mod until you are getting the good version of the mod and you need to double-connect to the origin server and after that, you can go the server destination server.

At the start of the game, this thing was not like that, why this thing change ? It's a bug or a common thing ? Because it's kinda annoying to need to double-connect on the origin (without seeing items the second time) and go to the destination server.
For players who are using a lot the transfer thing, it's a real problem and a waste of time.

Like for example, my Extinction server has the latest version of CS+, I wanted to go on Astraeos with the downgrade of the mod, I need to download this downgrade but I'm redirected on the main menu and need to go back on Extinction without seeing CS+ items then go to Astraeos

And to push further my explanation, items are just invinsible on my game, I'm bumping on it until I did redownload the good version for Extinction (So the latest version of the mod)

I did a ticket on the ARK forum but this needs to be bump in litteral space, that's a really persistent problem which needs to be fix really quickly
Trying here too, sorry. It's more a problem which concerning server owners than players but everyone is impacted so, it's potentially the best channel to share that

[tardy pine]

For anyone auto updating their server. I know we can check steamdb release id's. But has anyone found a way to only catch major updates? That way I my scripts don't reboot my cluster for minor version changes out of cycle.

[white lintel]

Hi, regarding ASE

Does anyone have some thoughts whether or not I should make my server for pre or post-aquatica? Mostly regarding what version people play on

[inner sigil]

Since March 3rd, we’ve been experiencing issues with items, inventories, dinos, and structures disappearing on our cluster. Every day, you can read here that more and more clusters are encountering this problem. Why is nothing being done about it?

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @zealous aurora at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!

[plain stream]

Doing the lords work! There’s only one way to get a response from them but they hate when we do it

Since March 3rd, we’ve been experiencing issues with items, inventories, dinos, and structures disappearing on our cluster. Every day, you can read here that more and more clusters are encountering this problem. Why is nothing being done about it?

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @zealous aurora at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!

[long meadow]

I love playing ARK for sooo long and yeah, i would buy the new dino´s as well ❤️
But the game have to work and i dont wanna lose my stuff, dinos or Structures after a reboot

Since March 3rd, we’ve been experiencing issues with items, inventories, dinos, and structures disappearing on our cluster. Every day, you can read here that more and more clusters are encountering this problem. Why is nothing being done about it?

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @zealous aurora at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!

[sharp vessel]

Can understand these guys, our problems are different, in a certain way.
But it seems there's a lot of problems with cluster/transfer, maybe Wildcard can contact us for tests or something.
I was very precised on my ticket but if you are saying you did a ticket and never got an answer, I'm afraid mine will got the same treatment.
So yeah, different problems, but same criticity.

[bleak zinc]

When will we finally get help? Those of us who host our servers through Wildcard’s partner? How is it possible that we pay a lot of money and haven’t received any support for three days, with no one feeling responsible?
When will we be helped? Every time an update is faulty again, it’s the players and server owners who suffer. Our patience is running out.

[bleak zinc]

Is this your idea of a joke, Wildcard? If you buy your Helena mod, traveling works again without duping? I’m honestly speechless… no words. Aren’t you already taking enough money out of our pockets?

[rich isle]

Updates would be helpful not just left in the dark like we have been. This had been going on for to long!

Since March 3rd, we’ve been experiencing issues with items, inventories, dinos, and structures disappearing on our cluster. Every day, you can read here that more and more clusters are encountering this problem. Why is nothing being done about it?

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @zealous aurora at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!

[gray tundra]

#rules
• 1.3. Do not spam messages, images, emoji, commands, and @mentions.
@sturdy zenith

And for those who say "Its not spam" let me give a definition:

The obvious stuff
Sending the same message over and over
Copy-pasting blocks of text repeatedly
Rapid-fire messaging like you’re trying to DDoS the chat with your keyboard
Repeatedly tagging people or roles (@everyone, @here, etc.) like you’re summoning demons

[sharp vessel]

To be honest, I'm not into spam too but I can also understand the frustration of everyone here (Not only especially the ones above), the lack of "hearing" can be chaotic for some of us
Like I'm saying, we're throwing rocks into the void but we can try something

[gray tundra]

Anarchy is not a solution adults should take

[rancid burrow]

Anyone have a suggestion for a bot to be able to stop/start/restart/etc your servers through Discord?

[sharp vessel]

That's a different form at this state
They are a group of persons trying to be understand and heard.

Some weeks ago, with the problem with inventory,ect.. they were 10-15 persons spamming each channels, this one was an anarchy situation.
At this moment, they are posting one message and they stopped (For the moment tho).

Like I'm saying, if we not trying something, nothing will change

[gray tundra]

there are management applications that allow that. I would how ever take in consideration that the coding behind that can also cause issues with a server. So use at own risk

[tired swift]

I got your poison you ordered

[sharp vessel]

AND, once again, I'm not into spam, not taking the defense of someone, but the facts are here, they are, for the moment, really calm

Kinda the best timing to write, because, more the persons are angry, more the chaos will come sadly

[rancid burrow]

My management application, after paying three lifetime memberships, has two sarcastic "helpers" and NO involvement from the dev
Admin only obviouisly

[gray tundra]

Still repeating the same message is spam. Thats just factual. And basically all i'm doing is what is mentioned in the rules. And explaining why the argument thrown up last time "It is not spamming" is invalid

[sharp vessel]

So, when you are in a manifestation, persons keeping the same thing in group, is spamming ?
For me, it's more than speaking words and discontent than spamming.
Than, if they trying to push the police, fighting,etc.. The chaos is happening.
At this state, we are at the start of 'a little manifestation'

[gray tundra]

Yeah I would say . if you know how to code.. make your own .. best to know how it works yourself.. also easier to really "see" if there is an issue, what the issue is

[long meadow]

What is your intention?
We've already initiated this through official channels and here via DC... but unfortunately, the issue of corrupt files is being ignored and some posts are even being deleted.
Instead of playing the moralizer, you should focus more on supporting the community.
By the way, the chat isn't being DDoS; it's simply a request for help.

[sharp vessel]

BTW, I'm thinking that's not the channel to speak about that and not the moment

[gray tundra]

I didn't start this discussion. I just pointed out a factual rule breaking event ...

[sharp vessel]

That was not (In my way to think tho) but they're aware of the consequences of their act, so if it's coming to chaos, they will be prevent and maybe ban, they are knowing that, you warned them, you can be proud of you, you, at least tried !

[rancid burrow]

lol I'm too dumb for that!! I barely know how to run my servers! Thanks for the insight, don't let others bring you down!!

[gray tundra]

No worries.. I'm not affected by this .. here to help.. I myself prefer self coding projects, and maybe if I ever feel the need for discord bot control mod I'll make one.. No worries.. my private projects don't cost money. I'm not here to profit of others.. I like Ark as a hobby .. not making it a business model

[sharp vessel]

Same here, that's sad some problems are affecting the way we're seeing the game, as a player or admin, ingame or out of the game when we need help

[gray tundra]

Okay just thinking out loud... if you would have 4 / commands ...

• /start {server}
• /stop {server}
• /restart {server}
• /list-servers

Where the last one would give you a "list of servers"
would that be enough ?

[green tangle]

Anynone have problem with server connection?

[mild pine]

Bonjour

[rancid burrow]

only other helpful thing would be a dino wipe if it could be added

[gray tundra]

If you want you can DM me ... actually does sound like a fun project

[celest halo]

The stop, and list servers is the easy part, can use rcon to shut them down. Fun part is starting them 😂

[gray tundra]

Love my friend powershell 🙂

[celest halo]

Would also make command to add/remove servers to the list

[gray tundra]

haha you want in on this ? xD

[celest halo]

I used ansibel for the starting part as my bot I made does not run on same machines as my servers do lol

I also run my servers on Linux 🤣

[gray tundra]

why not make a lightweight client-server application as well between the bot and the ARK servers ?

[celest halo]

I already use ansibel for doing installs and other server admin things

And ansible don't need an always running thing on the servers

My bot also does more then just start/stop my servers, it can also run update script for them, tells me when they need an update, when a mod on them needs an update, when players join/leave/die/tame something and when building parts get destroyed 😂

[gray tundra]

you been busy i hear

[celest halo]

Not really made it back in ASE days

Then adjusted it for ASA 😂

It also has a DB of almost all the game items with commands to give items to players, and ones for spawning dinos in dino depot balls to players inventory

[gray tundra]

yeah I'm not running a giveaway show myself ... play with a couple of friends.. just running the rack servers in my basement cause I'm a nerd and have money to invest in my hobby... also playing just near official rates and no big game changing mods... so yeah I'm a different breed of self hosters

[tardy pine]

Is anyone here using Pelayori's crosschat plugin for ASA?

[celest halo]

Yeah when I played it was a small friend group, the commands to give items through the bot is locked to my discord account and was an easy way to replace "lost" items

[gray tundra]

okay that is smart actually ... specially since im playing on xbox and typing is hell

[celest halo]

Def made it easier if a friend had day off or I was playing something else and not in-game, I could just use the bot 😂

Bot also says when server goes offline and online so made it easier to monitor them, didn't need to be home to restart or update them

[gray tundra]

i like the way you think..

Sounds like this will become my next "greenhouse" project where i over automated everything and small detail 🤣

[celest halo]

Lol, my has loadable modules depending on what game servers I have running, I use it for my Valheim, Minecraft, Palworld, Satisfactory dedicated servers

Ark one is the most advance one though, some of the others dont have rcon or any good way to monitor player activity

[broken stream]

Please take consideration to this message @zealous aurora @low haven @stark warren , we are more and more affected by this.

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @dooly  at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!```

[celest halo]

🤣 they haven't been able to fix the 50/50 bug since ASE you really think they can fix items going poof for a hand full of clusters 🤣

[lean ore]

I'm not sure how many fingers you have on one hand... but with that many, it would look pretty strange.

[gray tundra]

Last i checked dooly wrote that the save files they did get showed random save corruptions. With everyone randomly pinging them ten times im not suprised my more constructive question got overlooked too

[celest halo]

That could be anything from the software to hardware

[gray tundra]

Agreed many possibilities.. Dont know how much data they got either

[vale galleon]

is there a way to prevent cave artifacts from spawning? (PvP setup) i checked beacon, read using ConfigOverrideSupplyCrateItems doesnt really do much by leaving it empty. u can only adjust the item/content but not prevent spawning at all

[steel geode]

ok so i setup a server with portforward, im in the server its doing all it should but my friend gets timed out when joining, he is on epic but i did -crossplay in the bat file

[gray tundra]

All the ports are open in the firewall ?

[steel geode]

in my router or in the pc?

cuz i just clicked allow all

[gray tundra]

Dont do that on your router please

[steel geode]

oops

what happens now?

[gray tundra]

Just the ports needed (i would say 7777,7778,27015 (if im correct)

[steel geode]

i dont see those in my router

[gray tundra]

You might need to make services manually

And this is if you use thesw ports in your startup line offcourse.. If you use 7777 in your startup command, that also implies you use 7778

[steel geode]

does it need to be upd or tcp or both

[gray tundra]

And the other one is tje Query port

[steel geode]

i did those in the port forward do i alsno need to put them in the firewall thingie?

[gray tundra]

I would do both, but i believe its just udp.. But that doesnt matter too much

Depends on your router. But yes could be that port forwarding does not automatically allow it through the firewall from outside in. I have a peplink 380x and i need to do it in two steps

[steel geode]

is there a media where i can send a pic of what i got

[gray tundra]

You can dm me sure

Always here to help

[celest halo]

If it's ASA you only need the one port you set in your start command, ASA dont use a +1 or the 27015 steam query port

[next charm]

Can you make the Tribe Tower bonus effects faster to obtain with a setting?

[celest halo]

-crossplay is also not an ASA start command

For ASE you would also need to set the publicipforepic to make server steam and epic crossplay

[gray tundra]

Ooh nice to know thanx

[gray tundra]

You do need a certificate right ?

[celest halo]

Depends on the os, if the Amazon and epic certs are os installed or you need to manually install them

[gray tundra]

I installed the amazon one.. Not sure if it is supposed to be default in windows server 2019

[celest halo]

Windows server don't install a few certs that windows 10/11 does

[gray tundra]

My background is electronics and networking so this is not my main core knowledge.. But i f-around what i can

[plain stream]

That guys been constantly putting us down for trying to get our problem heard

[deft lily]

Hello, I run my own steam cmd cluster and was looking for some advice/assistance. I have noticed that there is a significant amount of lag/rubber banding during "garbage collection" and i was wondering if there is something that causes this directly, and if it could be resolved easily.

[gray tundra]

I think you need to maybe grow up a bit. The reactions and this remark is just petty. I am not putting anyone down or disrespecting peoples oppinion with thumbs down or clowns. I am simply pointing out that every community has rules. Your cluster probably has some too.. Here they can be found in #rules and spamming is one of them. So im pointing that out.

[plain stream]

Nah even worse you put your nose where it doesn’t belong. I wouldn’t consider something “spamming” if I posted once. So take your jr jr badge somewhere else

[gray tundra]

I am server owner / ark player too, so belong here just as much as you. Actually i try to help others here that i can. And have healthy discussions about settings and stuff to both teach and learn. If you lookup spamming you will see that copy pasting the same message multiple times is spamming. And tagging Dooly every time does not help either. People that just politely wait will get overlooked. Because with mass tagging what happens is that the receiver just starts to ignore all.
If that is what you wanted to achieve then congratulations, you didnt help the people here.. You worked against them.
Now im done discussing this. If you dont like my opinion that is your problem.

[plain stream]

You feed this lie every time. If you’re here to help with problems then why is our problem the only one you put down? A very serious problem that has been ignored for months now? Anytime someone post about it you turn it into something negative

[wise kindle]

The server corruption issue has been highlighted here a couple times now and dooly even asked for examples so they can look into the issue.

Her request was met with crickets. So without examples they cannot isolate the issue.

If you want the issue fixed, send the requested info to dooly as she requested. #unofficial-setup-help message

Until the issue is represented properly, a fix cannot be rolled out.

[plain stream]

She got them and went silent in dms…

From multiple people even like she requested…

[gray tundra]

She didnt.. You didnt like her answer is what it is

[wise kindle]

I didnt see more than 3 ppl telling dooly they were sending her examples, so no idea if they got looked at. Gotta tell her its coming.

The corruption may not be an unknown corruption event as well, so its not what she is looking for since there are literally dozens of corruption issues - or they are still working on it. When I sent mine it was speculated to be a variant of the 50 50 issue, so not the same corrupion bug.

But the issue is acknowledged - so we know this now. If you have more examples, those are helpful. I dont know if she ever got an example of the same corruption issue.

[gray tundra]

#unofficial-setup-help message

@plain stream

Not the answer you wanted.. But there was an answer

[gray tundra]

And then the crickets where back 🤷

[plain stream]

They did get looked up bc they responded to us

They had very little conversation before they went silent to us

Then again to the next cluster

[plain stream]

Again your act is getting old

[gray tundra]

Fitting then cause i aint a kid no more

[celest halo]

the one bug that they have never been able to fix "50/50"

[plain stream]

This one isn’t the 50/50 bug tho. That bug is more dealable

This one turns a 6 gb save to a 1 gb save

[wise kindle]

Well 50 50 has been around since ASE so not holding my breath.
Im thankful for the mod fix tho.

[plain stream]

If only we had a mod for save corruption that’d be nice

[wise kindle]

Ive shared a possible prevent measure, but most ppl just argue about it.
Its a stupid easy fix too.

[sharp vessel]

Hello !

I'm back at it, retrying the night (For me)

Hello guys !
I'm launching a stone in the void but I'm still trying.

I have a cluster of 10 servers, I'm trying to dispatch every reboot at different hours to avoid an overflow on the machine.
But, from 1 year ago almost, everytime there's a mod update, we need to download the "right" version available on the server.

So, if a version is different from a server to another, you must have the downgrade or the upgrade of the mod.
This thing is happening each time you are transferring, that's logic, but everytime the installation is finished, you got a message saying "This action will cancel your character transfer. Are you sure ?"
If you typing "Cancel", nothing is happening, and if you click "Yes", you are redirected on the main menu.
When you have that, you must connect to the origin server but you have the different version of the mod, so for example, with CS+, you can't see the item of the mod until you are getting the good version of the mod and you need to double-connect to the origin server and after that, you can go the server destination server.

At the start of the game, this thing was not like that, why this thing change ? It's a bug or a common thing ? Because it's kinda annoying to need to double-connect on the origin (without seeing items the second time) and go to the destination server.
For players who are using a lot the transfer thing, it's a real problem and a waste of time.

Like for example, my Extinction server has the latest version of CS+, I wanted to go on Astraeos with the downgrade of the mod, I need to download this downgrade but I'm redirected on the main menu and need to go back on Extinction without seeing CS+ items then go to Astraeos
And to push further my explanation, items are just invinsible on my game, I'm bumping on it until I did redownload the good version for Extinction (So the latest version of the mod)

[plain stream]

What’s that? Would love to try it if it’s a fix

[wise kindle]

Heres how I fixed the ones I could, and prevented it from continuing on my other servers;

Prevention: Replace a restart with stop and start, WELL spaced apart.

Fix example; I had servers dropping left and right from corruptions.
I fixed them by pulling the saves, wipe/rebuilt the server, then grabbing a very old save (one was a month old).
This got most of them back online.

To prevent reoccurrence, i spaced the start 20 minutes after the stop commands.

The suspicion is theres a memory leak about that accumulated over time. The servers werent fully stopping, resulting in corruption, which corrupted saves and eventually corrupted the server and it would no longer start.

So in short, make sure your servers are actually stopping, before being sent the start commands.

[plain stream]

Will pass this on and hopefully it works, thank you!

[wise kindle]

Np fingers crossed

[wintry sail]

Hello I was wondering if i could pick someones brain on settings for light pets. Basically my dilemma is that I have custom Dino levels in my cluster lvl 600 max but light pets are indacating max levels on anything over 150. Is there a setting somewhere I may have missed?

[west mortar]

Hi can anyone help me out I made a single map server I put fiber craft code in I found and it works for the most part except arkomatic and cyber structure items like items in the arkomatic machine that makes bullets are requiring random items I'm lost

[pure nimbus]

is there any update on when the new patch is coming fixing the duping?

[flat flume]

^

[tacit condor]

How would I go about in doing a job system for an RP server? I see a mod with like creating jobs and adding engrams to it but how do I stop from other people simply unlocking those engrams themselves?

[tawdry umbra]

Since March 3rd, we’ve been experiencing issues with items, inventories, dinos, and structures disappearing on our cluster. Every day, you can read here that more and more clusters are encountering this problem. Why is nothing being done about it?

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @zealous aurora at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself

[wise kindle]

There are requests for examples of corruption issues, just need to scroll or search discord.

#unofficial-setup-help message

[tawdry umbra]

idk what kind of example but i will log onto game, load into map, and my character is level 1 with no implant. immune to all damage types, cant interact with any objects. all items are missing from smithys, fabricators, storage containers. Hasnt happened to me but some peoples entire bases disappear, some characters disappear like they never existed on the cluster. Even non-player objects disappear. 31% of file data on last bug is what server owner said for one of the maps. as for specifics, those have all been sent already

[wise kindle]

Tried this yet?

#unofficial-setup-help message

[mighty walrus]

Is anyone else having a problem with crazy dupping on transfer after this last update?

[mighty walrus]

I run a cluster and this has happen to me almost every update. At least 1 of my servers suffer from this data corruption. My solution is to roll back the server until I find a saved file that isnt corrupted. Its a gaint pain but thats my only work around

[gray tundra]

I took on the solution that doolysaurus floof suggested. Not that i had any file corruptions at all, but if that can prevent it from ever happening thats great. So basically between stop and restart i have 1800 seconds of "sleep" in my script. Plus i do a restart twice a day.

@lost raven @plain stream @buoyant olive thanks for sharing the reactions (although i have sound of at night, i always read back)

[vale compass]

Has anyone encountered server log spamming with: "=== Parsing Dino" ?

[upper anchor]

Yes

[valid marten]

I have a problem with my cluster server, during the transfer of duplicate objects does anyone know if they fixed it? it's been 3 days and still the transfers on my server are disabled 🙁

[drifting cypress]

No fix, all unofficial is the same. Any and all items are duplicated on transfer now. Ive been hititng some unofficals myself and stacking up on extra items. Better for the pvp clusters. At least any that allows items transfer

[gray tundra]

#unofficial-setup-help message

#unofficial-setup-help message

Tried this for duping issues ?

Replied to the wrong message but @valid marten

[valid marten]

i tried but nothing work for now

@gray tundra

there is a mod the name is Nitrado Dupe Fix but need update we wait ....

[gray tundra]

Yeah what I read also is that, that mod doesn't seem to work

[wise kindle]

This mod no longer works.
The duplication bug just rolls right past it.

It hasnt worked in months.

[viscid heath]

Its only on unofficial that have modified stack sizes. One I play on doesn't and nothing is being duped.

[worldly basin]

my friend and i have been trying to set up our own serv for the pars 3H, can anyone help we're so lost

[clever coral]

Does anyone know if there's any news about fixing the duping issue when traveling between maps that's only happening on Nitrado?

Because whenever I ask about it on the Nitrado Discord, they say it's a game bug, but my self-hosted servers don't have any kind of problem with this at all. So, it's a bug in the way Nitrado transfers data between maps across different machines and networks. However, they won't admit this and tell us to take it up with the Ark devs, but Ark doesn't support traveling between maps on separate machines and networks.

Ultimately, who is going to fix this problem?

[celest halo]

Probably no one, they just point fingers at each other

That's the worse thing with game server hosting sites they always blame issues on something else even if you can prove it's them causing the issue

[clever coral]

That's exactly what is happening. Some guy named @azure gulch muted me and deleted posts related to this on their Discord.

He is claiming that self-hosted servers are having the same problem and therefore it's not just a Nitrado issue. This is even after I provided proof that my self-hosted servers have no issues, not to mention the community itself is talking about it here.

I don't know if lying and spreading misinformation to avoid taking the blame is company policy or just an individual's action, but we as consumers need to hold them accountable. And to hold them accountable, we need to understand what's going on as well.

Ark does not support cross-map travel when the maps are on different machines and/or networks, which is the case with Nitrado. For it to be possible, a third-party application (like a synchronization program) or a tunnel and other mechanisms outside of Ark are required. So much so that self-hosted servers, which are generally on the same machine, are not having the duping problem when traveling between maps.

We have been in this situation for a few days now. The Ark devs aren't saying anything about it (and I don't think they even should, since it's not a game issue), and Nitrado won't own up to it or explain what they are doing (if they are doing anything at all), and they just keep intimidating whoever holds them accountable.

We need to unite and collectively demand a solution from them. Including WC OFFICIAL players, since all OFFICIAL servers are also hosted on Nitrado.

[wise kindle]

The issue is isolated to servers with altered resource stacks.
Official stacks or those only using the stack multiplier are not affected.

[clever coral]

All servers that are on NITRADO are being affected, whether they have the Stack mod or not.

Servers that are not on NITRADO, with or without Stack mods, are not experiencing any problems.

[wise kindle]

Well according to some selfhosted servers, thats not accurate. As some are reporting this as well.

You can scroll up for more info but it appears to be much more widespread than initially reported.

[clever coral]

Call them here. That's the problem, they keep reading one thing here and another there, without context, and take it as truth. That's what's preventing us from verifying the real problem.

@wise kindle I have servers with and without stack mods. Both on Nitrado and outside of Nitrado. As do some of my friends. They're all in the same situation. Furthermore, official WC servers, which don't have stack mods, are also having problems.

[wise kindle]

I did list this above.
Its altered stacks.

Pop up a couple selfhost and try it.

[wise kindle]

Not stack mods

Ini altered stacks.

Thats the common denominator.

[clever coral]

I also have servers without stack mods, but with a modified GUS.ini file for resource stacking.

No problem at all.

[wise kindle]

Nice!
Please share the secret for others.

Not all are effected so any info Im sure is appreciated.

[clever coral]

Perhaps the others didn't quite understand that it's a problem at NITRADO. So they talked about Stack and whoever read it took that as a problem. What's happening is this: we're reading information without context.

You can do your own research; if someone says they're having problems, ask them where their server is located. And whether it's NITRADO or not.

[wise kindle]

Again
Selfhosters above are reporting this.

Listen your issue isnt with me, Im just the one who scrolls for answers.

If you don’t believe me, look around for yourself.

[clever coral]

I'm searching and I'm not finding any self-hosted sites with these problems.

And I'm just replying to you. I'm not charging you for anything.

[wise kindle]

Huh
I guess you just gotta read the posts cuz the references are there

[clever coral]

I've been reading it since yesterday..

But it is this mismatch of information that is unfortunately harming our ability to collect debts.

[wise kindle]

This is kinda taking away from my point.
Its altered stacks via ini.
So its a lower priority bug unfortunately since base game takes priority.
Unfortunate but true.
But theres been plenty of stink here about it, Im sure they are working on it.

[clever coral]

It's because sometimes people say things out of context here (I'm not referring to you, I'm not attacking you, just a healthy debate). When you ask and understand the person's problem, you can see what it really is. Sometimes the guy says "self-hosted" but without knowing that this term refers to having servers on your own machine or a dedicated machine, so the guy talks about self-hosting as if it were a rented server from NITRADO.

[waxen mist]

Halo everyone

[clever coral]

@wise kindle This issue with the Ark cloud is an old problem for NITRADO. It's not a new problem. It's only possible to enable map transfer between separate machines and/or networks via third-party synchronization applications. This is a fact that many, or most, people are unaware of, as they have never tried to have Ark servers in different countries.

[wise kindle]

Im the first one to blame Nitrado - if you look at my earlier posts.
But far too many are saying selfhost now.
This is recent since this last large WC update.
The dupe issue has been in Nitrado for years, its not new.
So something changed.
So when selfhosters say its hitting them, its eye opening.
Something changed.

[clever coral]

NITRADO recently released some updates to their operating system. We experienced two overnight downtimes. This coincided with the major Ark update, creating this kind of confusion.

[wise kindle]

Why is it always in caps lol

[clever coral]

I'm using a translator. English is not my native language. Sorry 😬

[wise kindle]

Ah ok

[clever coral]

The translator puts the word NITRADO in all caps. Maybe even the translator is angry.

😏

[wise kindle]

You found a translator in touch with his feelings lol

[clever coral]

Are your servers self-hosted?

[wise kindle]

Negative
This is why I know the issue has always existed.

[clever coral]

I understand. I've had it for 10 years. ASE for 10 years and ASA since launch. In ASE we've had problems, but they were glitches in the game itself, when the user intentionally generated lag to duplicate, logged into 2 maps at the same time and things like that, but I don't remember, in these 10 years of duping only when traveling between maps, "without forcing the duping".

I currently have 4 ASE clusters.

In my ASA I have 2 self-hosted clusters and 1 cluster in NITRADO.

[worldly basin]

can anyone genuinly help im so lost, we tried everything it feels like

[clever coral]

In ASA I've also never seen a problem where, when traveling between maps, things are duplicated without forcing it.

Except for NITRADO.

There's even an anti-duping mod for the old trip, just for NITRADO.

And it's been 4 days since the major update to Ark (which coincided with maintenance at NITRADO) and duping has been happening practically every time I travel between maps.

[wise kindle]

I have 28 ASA maps and its been happening* since launch.

[clever coral]

It's a good thing you put an asterisk. That would be the first person without problems on Nitrado.

😏

[wise kindle]

Oh no ppl with no stack changes have no issues, regardless of host.

[clever coral]

Are your servers on NITRADO free from duplication issues?

[viscid heath]

Yh I'm on a self hosted cluster with vanilla stacks. No duping issues.

[clever coral]

Me too.

I have it without stack modification, with stack modification, everything in the world, no problem.

Dooly said that servers without stack modifications, without mods or GUS.ini files, are not experiencing problems on NITRADO.

I respectfully believe that you read something about this out of context.

Because I tested my NITRADO server here without any stack modifications (mod or ini). Duplication continues. Furthermore, WC servers without stack modifications are experiencing the same problems as servers hosted on NITRADO.

Please, if anyone who doesn't have a server on NITRADO is having duplication issues, whether due to stack modification or not, please give us feedback here to help us understand the problem.

[celest halo]

I hosted mine on different machines and didn't need no 3rd party software, I use Linux servers and that's what NFS is for 😂

[clever coral]

I'm a layman in this area 😁

[celest halo]

I have also never had a duplication issue on transfer with my cluster (my cluster has been off-line since February so not sure if the new updates have made one)

[viscid heath]

Only suggestion I can g8ve for cluster admins would be to temporarily turn off item download, but allow char transfer to at least get semi functionality back

[clever coral]

The problem I'm reporting has been occurring for the past 4 days (some people will confuse this with older issues where it duplicated one thing here and another there). Any trip, I mean any trip between maps, duplicates everything in the inventory.

I can only imagine the frustration of the people who played all these years, who worked hard to achieve everything, and now others are duplicating everything all the time, without putting in any effort, on the OFFICIAL WC servers.

[wise kindle]

No. Never have been. Its always been there.

[clever coral]

Great! So we're 100% aligned on this NITRADO issue. Now, let's find out who has servers outside of NITRADO and is experiencing duplication problems. Then we can fully understand the problem.

[wise kindle]

I give up.

[clever coral]

So I'll repeat the question for other people reading this. Is there anyone who doesn't have a NITRADO server who is having problems with duplication every time they travel between maps?

Please give us feedback so we can better understand this problem.

[wise kindle]

Are you opening tickets on this issue?

[clever coral]

Of course!

[wise kindle]

Ok good then thats covered.

[valid marten]

is not normal we need a FIX from wild card not from Modder 🙁

[gray tundra]

If we only ask the question nitrado or self hosting.. Issue yes or no.. That we are making one big mistake. Which can be said very easily like this.

Every fox has a tail, not every tail has a fox

[clever coral]

True.

That's what I told Dooly. Some consider self-hosted servers to be those they run on Nitrado. I believe that's what caused the confusion.

[wise kindle]

Wut

Thats why Im saying its the ini not the host 🤦🏽‍♀️

throws up hands

[gray tundra]

The best comparison looking just at nitrado is finding someone that has and does not have the issue and compare differences and try to make the faulty one match the working one.. step by step til it works.. Then you have a proper elimination process..

Same counts for self hosting (own hardware) but the latter is harder to compare because now also small details as in where cluster data is stored matters..

And no saving over the network does not need to be an issue.. Al depends on where in the network you store it.. And how fast that storage is..

The biggest issue (even with local storage) and shared use of file is always the signalling if a file is in use .. Because reading and writing at the same time.. No bueno

[wise kindle]

Can I ask, where is the reference to this happening on official?
This is the first Ive heard of this.

[gray tundra]

I have not read this happening at official at all no

[clever coral]

But it's happening on all Nitrado servers. There isn't a single Nitrado server that isn't experiencing this problem.

[wise kindle]

Thats my conclusion as well. I havent heard this.

[gray tundra]

Have you asked literally all nitrado server owners ? Otherwise what you are doing is assuming

Assumption is the mother of all fuckups

[wise kindle]

Where is this report coming from officials specifically ?

Cuz I have heard the opposite

[gray tundra]

If i ask around here if people speak norwegian (i mean literally here) then they will say yes.. That does not mean i can conclude "every human speaks norwegian"

[clever coral]

I'm assuming, since there are no owners here or on the Nitrado Discord server saying there's no problem. I know only those with issues speak up, but the number of people reporting problems is characteristic of a global issue affecting everyone.

[wise kindle]

Yeah its the problem with these types of questions lol

[gray tundra]

Here is a good clue.. Those with issues speak up.. Those without dont ... Making your asking .. Biased to people with issues

[clever coral]

Yes, that makes sense. But I already know the problem. What I wanted was to raise awareness here so that the correct people responsible could be held accountable. I don't know how to better explain the issue of traveling between maps on separate machines and networks. But there's a lot of generalized information here, a lot of people involved, and maybe it won't lead anywhere. But I tried...

[gray tundra]

Okay im not saying its not possible that thats the problem.. Im also not sure if it is the problem. Because the arguments you bring up to support your case are not water tight

Can you change something in reproduce the problem and with that proof that doing A causes B and changing A back resolves B ?

[clever coral]

Maybe not. But just test it. I did. If you don't test and understand this deeply, we'll just keep saying generic things out of context, confusing everyone.

And practically everyone I've spoken to is only having this problem with NITRADO. I haven't found anyone outside of Nitrado with this issue anywhere (I've been to many places here and on other Discord servers).

So, even though you're right that not questioning 100% of the real people who use NITRADO supplements makes my argument irrefutable, and that's your right, my understanding, after sampling all the environments I've been frequenting for the past 4 days with great dedication and many people, is this.

[wise kindle]

Did you test Nitrado without modified stacks?

[clever coral]

Without mods, with mods, without ini, with ini, upside down, right side up.

[wise kindle]

So fully vanilla? Cuz I havent seen a report of duping there with no stack modification.

[clever coral]

Full vanilla with modified ini file for server information. Full vanilla with Nitrado's default setup (starts the server without any changes), full vanilla with files installed via steamcmd (without any changes).

[celest igloo]

I agree..this happens also without any Mods or something

Fully Vanilla..issue is still there

[wise kindle]

So this happens on official?

[celest igloo]

Only Unofficial

[wise kindle]

Wonder what the difference is.

[clever coral]

Where did you get that information?

I confess I didn't log into the official site to test it.

[wise kindle]

Same process; no one on official reports it.

[celest igloo]

I speak with a lot of admins.. theyr all waiting for a fix..

[clever coral]

Perhaps it's because they don't want to report it 😏

[celest igloo]

Maybe

[wise kindle]

Test it

[clever coral]

But I'll get in touch with my old tribe from the Officer. I'll give them feedback here and, if necessary, a video; if you allow me to put the link here.

[celest igloo]

It's only been since the last update Friday. You can no longer host Unofficial Servers. Everything is duplicated

[wise kindle]

Grab 3 fiber and transfer

[viscid heath]

Its not all unofficial servers. That I can 100% guarantee

[celest igloo]

@clever coral
Do you still have the picture of our chat on Nitrado? Where did nitrado write that some root servers also have this problem? The post was deleted..?

[celest igloo]

Yes thats true..but a lot

[clever coral]

Is it not possible to travel between maps on the Official servers with items on the character? I tested it here and couldn't. Does anyone know anything about this?

[viscid heath]

I transfer between Rag, Abb, LC and Ext daily on cluster I play and no issues. Other than the usual on LC 😆

[wise kindle]

What items?
Some are time gated.
If you try with items that don’t spoil you will have better luck

Its why I suggested 3 fiber lol

[clever coral]

Dude, I've been playing Ark for 10 years. You understood what I meant.

If you don't want to help, please don't get in the way.

[wise kindle]

Wow

Have fun then

[clever coral]

I'm running late for work, I'll test it calmly later and record a video. Anyone who has some time and could test it on the official WC server, that would be a great help.

[wise kindle]

You shouldn’t attack ppl trying to help you btw.
I do not know you.
Nor do I know your experience level.
Be better.

[clever coral]

In our conversation, I told you I've had servers for 10 years. Unless you assumed I haven't played in all that time. But that's okay. It's really bad talking to a translator. I'll just test the official one and then give up on this. I'll stick with my "ticket" and my hope.

[gloomy yew]

No it seems to be only servers with modified stack sizes

[wise kindle]

Tested on official with 2 stone.
After I waited out the time gate I could transfer.
It does NOT reproduce on official.

[celest halo]

They would fix it or close transfers if it did

Officials are WCs baby, unofficial is the redheaded step child

[gray tundra]

Unofficial through Nitrado might be anoying, but best option for most people. Self hosting on third party vps .. Sure .. If you really hate Nitrado but now you have the same lack of transparency and add the lack of partnership with Wildcard... Hosting on own hardware adds multiple chances of making mistakes yourself. Which only you will be responsible for to fix. That comes with a part of "acceptance" that things are the way they are as well..

I know enough people that "just want to vent" here think that wildcard and nitrado and everybody should be jumping in line to help them every second of the day.. But thats just wishful thinking and not realistic..

[celest halo]

I selfhost all my game servers, more control and normally less problems

[gray tundra]

I think knowledge wise you are probably on the top level here from what i have noticed

[wise kindle]

Thats the dream hopefully. When I get enough cash to support alot of maps.

[thorny cradle]

Nitrado ones seem to get more pop as the console bots don't know how to check a box to see player hosted

[celest halo]

I don't worry about pop, all the game servers I run are private ones for me and friends

[gray tundra]

Same for me.

[near hawk]

same ( i play alone )

i don't think i even have it right to show up to others

[real ingot]

Boy I'm so glad they fixed a canteen duplication on single player...

I take it back... they have come through!!!

[viscid heath]

At least one person is big enough to take it back 😊👍

[near hawk]

They were waiting for your comment

[real ingot]

Yeah, set me up lol

If only I had waited 10 minutes for the next announcement 🤣

[near hawk]

Now to see if it does anything

[real ingot]

Don't you tempt fate

[broken stream]

Please take consideration to this message @zealous aurora @low haven @stark warren , we are more and more affected by this.

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @dooly  at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!```

[sharp vessel]

Hello !

I'm back at it, retrying the night (For me) (New patch, new bump)

Hello guys !
I'm launching a stone in the void but I'm still trying.

I have a cluster of 10 servers, I'm trying to dispatch every reboot at different hours to avoid an overflow on the machine.
But, from 1 year ago almost, everytime there's a mod update, we need to download the "right" version available on the server.

So, if a version is different from a server to another, you must have the downgrade or the upgrade of the mod.
This thing is happening each time you are transferring, that's logic, but everytime the installation is finished, you got a message saying "This action will cancel your character transfer. Are you sure ?"
If you typing "Cancel", nothing is happening, and if you click "Yes", you are redirected on the main menu.
When you have that, you must connect to the origin server but you have the different version of the mod, so for example, with CS+, you can't see the item of the mod until you are getting the good version of the mod and you need to double-connect to the origin server and after that, you can go the server destination server.

At the start of the game, this thing was not like that, why this thing change ? It's a bug or a common thing ? Because it's kinda annoying to need to double-connect on the origin (without seeing items the second time) and go to the destination server.
For players who are using a lot the transfer thing, it's a real problem and a waste of time.

Like for example, my Extinction server has the latest version of CS+, I wanted to go on Astraeos with the downgrade of the mod, I need to download this downgrade but I'm redirected on the main menu and need to go back on Extinction without seeing CS+ items then go to Astraeos
And to push further my explanation, items are just invinsible on my game, I'm bumping on it until I did redownload the good version for Extinction (So the latest version of the mod)

[valid marten]

The update didn't fix anything, I still have the object duplication problem in my clusters.

[bleak ivy]

make sure you are on v86.17
nitrado might not have updated yet

[valid marten]

where can I see this?

[bleak ivy]

no idea, don't use nitrado.
the ingame browser should say what version the server is on tho

[wise kindle]

Status updates in the Nitrado announcements

[valid marten]

ty

[viscid heath]

In game browser is easiest way to tell. Version number is just to the right of population I think

[wise kindle]

Its not available yet, likely they are testing it

[valid marten]

i have 86.15 in my cluster servers

[viscid heath]

Yh not updated yet

Nitrado generally stagger updates over the network. Always noticed it when I ran an ASE cluster.

[valid marten]

i have one Modded map in clustr and is with 86.17 version but other maps no

[wise kindle]

Stop your server, wait 15 minutes they start it again to trigger the update.

[red juniper]

has anyone figureD out how to fix babies no growing if not rendered before server restart?

[austere needle]

i use api + babystasisfix plugin for this and it works perfect

[red juniper]

is this for ASA? cant find it

[austere needle]

yes it is can i dm you ?

[red juniper]

yes plz

[lusty crescent]

Does anyone know if the hatzegopteryx kukulkan mod doesnt work if it isnt on top priority or toguether with tlc's or other mods? it only started spawning on the map for me once i took off all other mods except simple performance and der dino finder

[limber prawn]

The game updates so much, and one of my friends has a slow external hard drive so each update regardless of size takes 3 hours to patch. Is there a way to freeze the game to its current version (Steam offline mode) and then also freeze the nitrado server to the same version so we can continuously play without updating every single day? Basically prevent updates

[timid surge]

is there anyone that can help me?

rented a server from g-portal ( which i have done before )

fresh installed Ark but i get the following message when i try and direct connect via steam servers.
"unable to query server info for invite"

i cant find it when searching
no mods active
i have verified integrity of game files

Server is showing in the server list via steam

[dense vine]

Hosted a cluster from my pc and it worked, but I tried to change the map and now it doesn't appear under the server list. Please help

[toxic hazel]

Got your map filter set? Sounds like could be set to one map

[white lintel]

Anyone know if anything will break if I revert my server to pre-aquatica?

[near hawk]

Make a back up, but everything should be fine

[wise kindle]

It wipes the map so be prepared.

[white lintel]

wild dino wipe you mean?

[nimble hare]

Hi, I followed this tutorial: https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server_setup on debian 12 (bookworm) and installed the Ark Survival Evolved server without mods
But whenever I'm trying to join the server (tried public/private IP with and without explicit port 7777) I get a timeout
With tcpdump I can see bunch of traffic between the server and steam and between the server and my client
This page: https://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=IP shows:

  success: true
  servers: []

the tcpdump always looks the same with a 512 byte packet to the client followed by 11 bytes to the server right before I get the timeout

*this is my start script: #! /bin/bash ./ShooterGameServer TheIsland?SessionName=SomeServer?Port=7777?QueryPort=27015?MaxPlayers=30?ServerAdminPassword=PASSWD -log -NoBattlEye

[glossy mantle]

Can i run cluster of maps on a single machine ? And what kind of specs i would need for that ?

[toxic hazel]

A core per map and I say like 20GB ram per server

[glossy mantle]

140 gb ram for 7 maps

[toxic hazel]

Yaa if thats what it calcs too, depending on mods etc too they might use more

But mine are generally round the 20gb mark

Couple less and couple are more

[glossy mantle]

What do u use a server rack ? Or a computer

[toxic hazel]

Rack

I know others that use a PC

[glossy mantle]

And it doesnt need a gpu ? Sorry for asking basic questions I'm just understanding hosting.

[toxic hazel]

Nope it does not 🙂

Depending on the cpu maybe if you want to RDS to it

Some RDS programs it wont matter - like the windows RDS i believe

[glossy mantle]

RDS ?

[toxic hazel]

Remote Desktop, so i can remote onto my server ffrom my pc

[glossy mantle]

Oh ok and they all will run from single install or u have to install server tool and game files separately per map ?

[toxic hazel]

My ark server run on a VM and have their own server folders per map
MyClusterFolder
Server 1 Folder
Server 2 etc etc

You can setup smlinks too if you want the server stuff using the same fodlers I believe

[glossy mantle]

Oh ok so i need 200GBx7 for a cluster i would i wanna host.

Ssd space i mean

[toxic hazel]

Huh 200GBx7?

Ohhh lol, one server is not 200gb, more like 20-40gb

[glossy mantle]

So ot doesnt need full ark game ok got it. I was just calculating how costly is it to run a full cluster for friends.

[toxic hazel]

Yeee A freshly downlaoded server will take like 20-30gb from memory, then it builds up as it gets played on etc

Most this data is in the vidoes folders as well XD I know people that delete this too haha

[glossy mantle]

Videos ?why a server makes video files ?

This is interesting

[toxic hazel]

Like the videos when you join a server etc, every server has them i think

[glossy mantle]

Oh like a log ?

[toxic hazel]

cutscenes etc, not a log

[glossy mantle]

Oh got it so to summarize 20Gb ram per server and 20 40gb space both can increase depending on how modified the server is with mods. Having an overhead is preferable to keep things smooth.

Thank you chief

[broken stream]

Please take consideration to this message @zealous aurora @low haven @stark warren , we are more and more affected by this.

By “we,” I mean several different clusters. We’ve submitted support tickets, but they’ve gone unanswered for two (!!) months. Here on Discord, @dooly  at least tried to listen to us, but even there many people didn’t get any response, or were simply told, “It’s just a bug” or that we should wipe (which has demonstrably not helped).

Why are we being left like this? So many clusters have already lost players, and people are losing interest in Ark itself!```

[lost crescent]

Anyone else's self-hosted servers have this odd behavior where people will get randomly disconnected, but with no error or disconnect message, they just get dumped to the main menu. Server logs looks just like if they logged out normally.

This is with a syncronous 1 Gbps connection. I also recently fixed a lot of lag/rubberband issues by upgrading hardware (CPU was originally too low a clock for how ARK is single threaded). Everything else pretty much is running great now, but still those random dump to main menu. The client logs also do not have anything about it.

[timid surge]

DO mods even work anymore ?

trying to set up a server like i have done in the past but everytime i activate a mod it seems no one can find the server or connect to it

[rugged niche]

Is there a setting to limit max item quality to official setting and max dino lvls to 450 if so where do i apply these?

Max tamed dino lvl 450, and saddle cap at 124% im looking to make a bit of an official, feeling unofficial server

[bleak ivy]

DestroyTamesOverLevelClamp=450
ItemStatClamps[1]=19800
ItemStatClamps[3]=19800
in game.ini

and ClampItemStats=true in gameusersettings under [serversettings]

[rugged niche]

Thanks, clamp is in the startup parameter yeah? Is it a - or ? Argument?

[bleak ivy]

actually that might be gameusersettings

[near hawk]

Item clamp is game.ini

[bleak ivy]

no the clampitemstats=true

[near hawk]

Oh

[bleak ivy]

the wiki says commandline when looking at itemstatclamps but then it has it under gameusersettings

[near hawk]

Yes gus

[rugged niche]

Ah i see thx going to return to this tomorrow and set it up accordingly i love having me official settings even on unofficials

[bleak ivy]

probably just one of them that has both. just put it in gameusersettings under [serversettings]

[tardy pine]

Is anyone aware of a way to programmatically check if ark is running an event? So that events on a cluster can match their events automatically.

[dark lion]

I have been trying to solve this for about 2 days straight now to no avail. I currently host a PvE Primal/Descended cluster through Nitrado and my players bases are getting wiped by dinos left and right. PvE is turned on, my GameUserSettings.ini has the "right" settings in them, and I still cannot get structure damage to be turned off from wild dinos. What am I missing? Is it not possible? I also see multiple people say to set StructureResistanceMultiplier=0 but when I do that structures still take millions of damage. I have tried Disable Friendly Fire on and off. I am out of ideas and things to try yet I see servers advertising Structure Damage Off all the time. Can someone point me the right way?

[ServerSettings]
StructureResistanceMultiplier=0.000001
StructureDamageMultiplier=0
DisableStructureDamage=true```

[tardy pine]

Assuming that StructureResistanceMultiplier is the right setting, is reducing it to 0.00001 the right move? I would think you want the resistance to be higher. Have you tried setting it to 10000 or something like that?

Or set it to 0.0 to test it, that should make structures indescribable

[dark lion]

According to the tooltip,
Defines the multiplier for the damage done to structures. Reducing the value will decrease the damage done to structures.

[tardy pine]

Try 0.0 then to see if it has any effect

[dark lion]

I also see multiple people say to set StructureResistanceMultiplier=0 but when I do that structures still take millions of damage.

Before I set it to the insanely low 0.000001 it was on 0.0 and structures still blew up.

[wise kindle]

I dont think it grandfathers the setting. I believe that you may have to pick up and replace structures to get the new resistance (I could be wrong here but I use 0.0 and have no damage)

[dark lion]

And that's the other thing. I even had a helper go out and place new structures at a dinos feet and have them aggro it to try and damage it. Still does damage. So they're fresh foundations every restart when I change a setting, yet the damage still happens.

[wise kindle]

What kind of dino?

[dark lion]

He has been testing with descended Celestial Gigas. (Primal/Descended servers)

[wise kindle]

Is this selfhost?

[dark lion]

Nitrado Host.

[wise kindle]

Did you add the setting or edit the setting thats already there?

[dark lion]

I added the setting that is there. The DisableStructureDamage=true I added. The others were pre-existing.

[wise kindle]

2 things:

• i believe the setting is on the general tab - be sure its the same setting as your ini
• if you added it, you may have added a duplicate. Verify it wasnt already there

[dark lion]

There is no "Disable Structure Damage" in the general tab. I've looked numerous times.
There is no duplicate line inside of either INI file.

[wise kindle]

It would be a setting, not a toggle

Also, is the server fully stopped when you change the setting? Or is it still running?

Changing the setting and rebooting wont guarantee it takes.

[dark lion]

Always allow structure pickup, Max Structure Pickup Time After Placement, Structure pickup duration, Override structure platform prevention, Enable Extra Structure Prevention Volumes, Fast decay unsnapped core structures, Only Auto Destroy Core Structures, Auto Destroy Structures, Auto destroy of old structures, Disable structure placement collision, Max Structures In Range, Structure Resist Multiplier, Structure Prevent Resource Radius Multiplier, Allow loot crate spawns on top of structures, Tribe log destroyed enemy structures, PvP Structure Decay, PvE Allow structures at supply drops, Regrowth ban radius multiplier around structures.

That is every single setting and or toggle-able that there is regarding structures. Not a single one about damage on/off.

Also the server will be running, I make the change, then send a restart command, and test again.

[wise kindle]

You are nitrado?

[dark lion]

Yes.

[wise kindle]

Please never do this

Changing settings while servers are running can cause corruption

Stop the server
Wait for the server to fully stop
Make changes
SAVE
Start the server

Trust me on this
Corruption is terrible

[wise kindle]

Are you ASA?

Cuz ASA general tab has “Structure Resistance Multiplier” as an integer setting.

Under the Structure Section

[dark lion]

Yes. ASA. And Yes. The settings are as follows:

StructureResistanceMultiplier=0.000001
StructureDamageMultiplier=0
DisableStructureDamage=true```

Even when setting StructureResistanceMultiplier to 0.0 there is still damage

It is showing the same in the general tab.

[wise kindle]

Then the issue lies in the fact that the setting is changed while the server is still running.

[dark lion]

I'll attempt turning it off and then setting it and restarting.,

[wise kindle]

yeah cuz the setting definately works, alot of ppl run 0.0 and see no damage - tho a setting with that many zeros, I dunno if it will even register

[dark lion]

I was just going off of what I saw in searches from this channel and from google, reddit, and other servers. 🤷‍♂️

Giving some people time to kill a boss and then turning off the server and setting the changes.

[last magnet]

I use Beacon for my settings, works well with Nitrado from what I've read. I don't trust any setting not coming from the patch notes or mod devs, and Beacon datamines the game.

I'm a selfhoster bc Nitrado is a bit spendy

[dark lion]

I used to self-host but then I moved into an apartment and don't have the means to do that here.

Also, turning the server off, changing the multiplier to 0.0 and starting the server, did not work.

[last magnet]

do you have friendly fire on by any chance or are you trying to stop wild critter damage?

[dark lion]

bDisableFriendlyFire=true

And yes. I am trying to stop wild dinos from damaging player structures.

Running Primal Chaos and Ark Descended overhaul mods.

[last magnet]

Ark descended has a structures mod

it's boosted up to work with the mod critters

also reinforced structures mod can adjust health on the stuctures

[dark lion]

I have it installed. I'm just trying to find a way to not force people into using those structures for their builds. It's a PvE server after all. They should be able to build with whatever material they want and not have their bases wrecked by a passing by dino.

[last magnet]

true

Cybers has a tek forcefield in the mod, I've had decent luck, plus also using a repair station (from Automated Ark) that autorepairs the base & turrets + tesla coils + plant x. I also play PvE, but not using the ones you have

[lost crescent]

Anyone else's self-hosted servers have this odd behavior where people will get randomly disconnected, but with no error or disconnect message, they just get dumped to the main menu. Server logs looks just like if they logged out normally.

This is with a syncronous 1 Gbps connection. I also recently fixed a lot of lag/rubberband issues by upgrading hardware (CPU was originally too low a clock for how ARK is single threaded). Everything else pretty much is running great now, but still those random dump to main menu. The client logs also do not have anything about it.

[last magnet]

I've found harvesting like really large amounts, or moving a lot of fertilizer, or trying to skin a large base will kick me to the main menu

and it's client side so they might need upgrade their hardware

as the server itself has no hiccups

but the client gets lagged with too much data to process in a short amount of time

course host disconnects at login might be a too large base trying to render in too.

[marsh aurora]

asa Creatures data broken

[lean ore]

Hello everyone,

I’ll try to keep this brief, but the text is still going to be long! That’s because the issues and our attempts to fix them have become overwhelming over time.

Since the beginning of March (for 2 months now!!!!!), we’ve been dealing with the following core issues:

• 50/50 bug
• Faulty inventory saving

We could probably live with the 50/50 bug on its own.
But the combination with the “faulty saving” is disastrous and frustrating!

Here’s what happens to us when we encounter the incorrect saving issue:

• Player inventories are gone (completely or partially)
• Structure inventories are gone (completely or partially)
• Dino inventories are gone (equipped saddles tend to disappear)

With the sheer volume of items and resources you accumulate over time, such losses often go unnoticed. Still, it’s surprising when dinosaurs suddenly vanish in Cryos. The action bar is empty, etc.
That’s how the problem first came to light.

The following scenarios have only recently emerged after the major patch:

• Before logging out, we strip our characters completely bare (armor, inventory, action bar) and store the items in a vanilla vault (yes, we have mods, hence the emphasis).
• After the server restarts, the following can happen:
• • You have to respawn
• • You wake up as your character, but the implant is gone. You don't lose health or stamina (you're immortal), but you can't interact with anything (e.g., you can't use the bed, consume polymer, or travel). The only way to resume playing is via AdminKill followed by a respawn
• • You wake up normally, but the stored items are no longer there.
• • You wake up normally and are equipped with armor, items in your inventory, and an action bar from “sometime” the previous day (rollback behavior).
• • • In this case, the stored items may still be present (duplicated) or may have disappeared (rollback situation => loss of progress)

We have been working on a solution for 2 months.

What have we done?

• Suspected corrupted data files => Loaded backups => No success
• Suspected player inventory issues => Completely switched the cluster to the -usestore storage format
• Installed new servers => They were also affected a few days later!
• Implemented more save intervals via RCON Scheduler => No success

We’re at a loss and need professional help with this!
Tickets have been created.
A month ago, we provided Wildcard with our save games => no response so far!
We’d love to enjoy the new content and look forward to Gen1 and Tides of Fortune, but we’ve lost all energy, all inspiration, and all joy in the game due to the ongoing issues and the support team’s indifference!

A quick clarification to wrap things up:
We = Our cluster (14 servers, originally 30 players).
Likewise,
We = approximately 30 cluster owners with the same number of servers!

[lost crescent]

Do you know if there is anyway to show that this is client side, any sort of test/log? I only ask cuz I just fixed a host of issues that were on my side, so I would like to be able to put this one to rest if I can. In either case, I appreciate your reply, that's the best one I've got to this issue yet.

[dense crescent]

I have had the same issue on my nitrado server and I dont really notice any patterns unfortunately I can just be flying in a straight line and it will happen or in inventory.

[austere needle]

same here ... it happen to multiple ppl on my cluster (including me) ... super annoying when doing OSD or caverns (in lava) ...

even while afk in tekpod ...

[lost crescent]

Ok at least I know I'm not the only one lol. It's random with no pattern and could happen at any time. The only possible indicator is it happens more to people outside my network. Some of whom have better gaming rigs than me

But other games I host don't have the same issue that I can recall

[austere needle]

its absolut random ...
i play with groups and even if we are all at same spot and doing all the same (defanding an OSD) only one person get this "silence DC" ... sometimes me and sometimes other persons (as far i can see its only one person at time effected)

me and my wife sitting in base afk for eating dinner ... only me got the "silence DC" no one else on the map

• 100% not my connection ... im sitting the whole time in discord and have multiple streams of my mates running

[lost crescent]

Are you nitrado or self hosted?

[austere needle]

selfhosted

[lost crescent]

Same. Synchronous 1 Gbps fiber and enterprise grade networking hardware which doesn't show any issues on the network at the time is the disconnects

[austere needle]

im sure its nothing we can fix ^^

[lost crescent]

I just wish I could at least tell what the issue is even if I can't fix it. At least more than just "get ARK'd lol"

[polar dagger]

We are still experiencing corrupted savegames on a Nitrado cluster. The server doesn't crash, but during a save operation, the file size suddenly drops. After a restart, nearly all storage containers are empty. We often have to roll back 12–24 hours to find a functional backup.

In UE 5.x terms, it seems the world serialization process is failing. The data stream likely hits an error and skips over critical information like inventories and resulting in a truncated save file.

I cannot replicate this on my own separte Linux/Proton server using the same savegame. This suggests a Nitrado-specific issue, similar to the recent server transfer "exploits" (duping) that only affected their infrastructure.

Is this a known issue, is it being worked on, and do WC need more test data / savegames? thx

also here I found some bug reports:
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/bugs/faulty-inventory-saving-r99644/

[lean ore]

its sounds like these problem:
#unofficial-setup-help message

[polar dagger]

Thanks, you are absolutely right! This empty inventory/storage bug has been occurring on Nitrado servers for a few months now. I believe it started around February, though it happens intermittently rather than all the time
(Update: But for example, it happens nearly/more frequently on Ragnarok than on less populated maps like Svartalfheim.)

[broken stream]

For us it started immediately after this patch on 3/03/2026.
This patch was supposed to fix issues that we didn't have on our maps but actually caused them to appear, go figure...
Good luck anyway, we're doing everything we can to be heard by WC but they're turning a deaf ear. I've informed my community about it. We're already a sizeable community of server owners having these issues and we're trying our best to help each other resolve this, but to no avail...

Astraeos: Fixed Destruction of structures and teleporting players at 50/50 when loading into Single Player or starting up the server.
Fix for possible save corruption when restarting servers.
Cleanup of DinoAIControllers as soon as controlled pawn is no longer valid.
Fix for crash using some mods.```

[sonic badger]

can soembody help me with setting up a dedicated server

[tidal frost]

What parts are you confused on

[sonic badger]

so i downloaded steamCMP

then i did the stuff but the part wehre it says to type "app_update 367030"

when i did that it said that the app didnt work or smth

[arctic mica]

What commands did you enter prior?

[sonic badger]

uhh like login_anonymous

[arctic mica]

Remove the underscore

login anonymous

force_install_dir C:\ArkServer

app_update 376030 validate

Try those

Oh just realised you got the id wrong lol

2430930 for ascended
376030 for evolved

[haughty helm]

hello everyone 🙂

I would like to start a server from zero with ARK installed, and I’m looking for a clean setup process, configuration, and installation, please.

My first question is: which community mods are required first?
For example, with DayZ you need CF, etc., so I think ARK has something similar?

My second question is:
Is there anything possible on your side to allow adding creatures from other maps into one map?
What about settings where i can making spawn some creatures in proper target area ?

My third question is:
How can I change loot, for example:
caves, sky drops, bosses, and so on?

And also, one last and very important question:
Someone told me that the auto‑generated files do not include all the settings we can actually configure, and that there are many more options we can manually add.
So… could someone provide a complete version of these files so I can have more material available?

I would really appreciate help with these steps

[bleak ivy]

there aren't any required community mods most people use a cryopod mod for better customization I guess. and I would suggest either custom dino levels or vanilla with sprinkles to make the level distribution better.

there are plenty of methods to add dinos to other maps, most dinos can be added through the ini but its pretty ocmplicated, the beacon app has it, not sure if its in the omni version or not. (it also has most settings in it), there are also mods like B+ spawner

same as the dinos, there is an ini config that can change them but its very complicated. this is also in beacon and in the free version

the wiki https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration has pretty much all settings. some of the new ones might not be there, but it usually has them eventually. the beacon app should also have most of them.

[haughty helm]

hello appreciate reply to me ..
ive been looking thru the wiki but there a lot info and im confused 😄 ...
i was thinking if there any files premade and complete for a decent pve server but yea at my first tryout then i should try the mods right ? more easy ?

[bleak ivy]

that would be the best way yeah. most mods can be added and removed without issues.

[haughty helm]

so the Argument in the left is about the commands we can use if these auto generate files from host miss these commands right ?
then we add true or false ?

[bleak ivy]

so there are multiple categories. the gameusersettings/game configs are either float, integer, string or boolean.
float are numbers, boolean are true/false, integer are no decimals, string being text, usually has to be specific but some can be anything.

the command lines also have ones that do stuff without anything. just need to be added.

[haughty helm]

ah right noted , i will try go thru it thank you 🙂

[haughty helm]

do you maybe have at disposition a full made ini maybe i can look for learning ?

[dry badge]

we have had multiple players stuck in a crash loop on our server. is this just an issue going on with ark now or is it us? we’ve already had two players leave our discord because of this🥺

edited to add from player-
So I’ll dc multiple times in a row before it gets to the point of no return. And I’m talking like… 6-10 times of seeing my Xbox Home Screen in a matter of like 30-45 minutes before ending up in this loop

[last magnet]

yeah, I'm self hosted, and I think it's RAM related bc it's saturating the queue for processing if there's a lot of data. like I'll get a lil lag if I fly over some spawns and its also rendering in the landscape. or pulling resources to craft or sorting a lot of stuff if I'd been offline for a bit and my reource makers been busy. also on 1gig fiber, server is ethernet, I think its a 1gb port on the switch. And it also did it on 400 meg cable internet, also wired in

plus I have my gaming rig plugged into ethernet as well. wifi is not great with ARK

[lost crescent]

You mean the RAM on the client, rather than on the server?

[deft lily]

i was wondering if someone might be able to lend me some assistance. i have a cluster i run and here recently my Astraeos map has become really laggy. it is ran through steam cmd and in the server window i keep getting "attempted GC & defrag". i do know that this is for the garbage collection and it is supposed to do that. but when i get that message constantly, i dont know what to do.

[last magnet]

yeah, I have 16Gb on my laptop, and 32GB on my gaming desktop. it was worse on the laptop, acceptable on the desktop

bc ARK does a LOT of work on the client side

[serene osprey]

Is there a way to add specific boss fights to a player within our server? They're character got deleted and I know how to add ascension, but not specific no ascension bosses

[sour pasture]

Does anyone know how to make the obs flat with the terrain on ase? I’ve seen it done on other cluster but can’t find a single thing on how they did it lol please help

[lost crescent]

Have you tried playing with some system tracker or even task manager open to see if your memory is spiking when it crashes?

[last magnet]

i only had the single screen so it was not optimal at all for catching anything. next session, I'll run hwinfo64 in my new second monitor, so i can see issues. Also semi related, i noticed on old server, it was not stable at temps above 120F. lag, host disconnects, couldn't log in to the server. server stayed running, but couldn't log in unless i shut the system down for overnight then booted the next day.

[lost crescent]

OK, I'd be interested in what you find. I'll keep an eye on mine.

And yeah, overheating will def cause issues like that.

[serene osprey]

Anybody know anything about this?

[wise kindle]

Which bosses are needed?

[serene osprey]

alpha dragon, megapithecus, and brood

[wise kindle]

Dragon
cheat DefeatBoss 123456789 "Dragon" 2

Mega
cheat DefeatBoss 123456789 "Megapithecus" 2

Brood
cheat DefeatBoss 123456789 "Uberspider" 2

Use the implant id instead of 123456789 of course

May need to die after you run the codes to get the implant to reflect changes

Some players it simply does not work on them and they have to manually do the fight

[vernal nest]

Hi there, sorry to bother. Just wanted to know if this did fix save corruption for you ? It's been happening for all of our servers for a while now 😅 I'm kinda lost at this point and I might give your fix a try

[haughty helm]

morning everyone 🙂 , up please

[drifting cypress]

Common on Asa. You need to kill their character. Someone needs to find their body and kill it. They’re likely in an area of high graphics or painted structures, skins will do it too

[haughty helm]

question with the beacon app in the stack size is everything i can stack ?

[gray tundra]

well last time I tried wyvern milk doesnt stack no matter how much you try 🙂

[haughty helm]

ah appreciate , so before making stuff that doesnt work , isnt here a premade list i could use ?

im new in the hosting , no clue how figure out stuff ^^

[gray tundra]

well you can't go wrong imo ... like its not that it crashes.. you just notice the stack doesn't change in my experience.

[haughty helm]

ah so there none file premade for community ?

hmm so i found this website wich have some , not sure if these could work as they has been published 2 years ago

ah we cant put photo or link either here

hmm welp

[gray tundra]

use beacon at first.. that helps alot since it just lets you simply type in things and you can (when it comes to breeding and imprints) see what the outcome of your settings is

[haughty helm]

yea im on this , as i am new in to this i have no idea what can work or not

in the list i think there the whole ark items so

there all the stuff inside , i cant share photo

[gray tundra]

its alot about just trying .. if you have played the game then maybe you already know a bit what you like and what not .. so those settings you can look up and tweak... I think trying is your best friend.. and Beacon makes it easy to just try

[haughty helm]

i have no idea about these , going to see other discord or website if there materials gived to the community ...
i appreciate for the help anyway 🙂 thank you

[blazing patrol]

When I adjust the settings and enter Single Player and change resource gathering to X10 And what changes? Why? Does anyone know the answer?

[toxic hazel]

W Milk stacks on my server xD

[gray tundra]

How 😮

[toxic hazel]

I just put the W Milk stack line in my ini and bam, works

Im in another discord and there is one guy it dont work for and we couldnt find out why though

I even took his ini files and used them and milk stacked on my server still lol

[wise kindle]

Yes this is why I shared it

[vernal nest]

Thank you for your answer and for sharing it 🙂

[haughty helm]

it ask to me to pay seems

i cant again share photo here but yea..
for now still didnt find community files with most complete ini to look at it so we can maybe reproduce them or something else yet

so i desinstalled this tool

[wise kindle]

Best tool in the game tbh.

[haughty helm]

as i see there none complete files ini around and this one doesnt make either

[wise kindle]

You can code it yourself if you wish
Or let Beacon code it for you

[haughty helm]

hmm seems you didnt follow what i was trying to find out as a new hoster ...

[wise kindle]

Testing what works is a huge part of hosting.
If you want ready made code, those in general are not free.
This is why ppl use Beacon to create their own experience.

Ill leave you to it, you know best.

[haughty helm]

I come from modding and coding DayZ, which i have in my possession and work around a million lines, but at least there are huge free template pages, sources, and complete examples everywhere.
I thought I could relax a bit on another game server hosting sometimes and killing time, but I’m starting to notice that a lot of things are locked behind paywalls instead of helping people expand their knowledge and possibilities.

[gray tundra]

There is a whole wiki with free knowledge.. And beacon is free..

[haughty helm]

there couple options that is behind a paywall part 🙂

[gray tundra]

Rarely does one use it.. Plus its 10$.. I mean not that expensive either

[haughty helm]

20

[gray tundra]

The wiki is free though, and also explains the part that beacon asks money for

[near hawk]

there's even mods to do what beacon ask u to pay ingame

[gray tundra]

Ooh well they dont work for free either the people that make and maintain beacon

[haughty helm]

ceck the app web site in the 6 option that arent free

[gray tundra]

Everybody wants some pålegg on their brød

But then again.. The wiki is free

If you have a specific question you can always reach out

[haughty helm]

You misunderstood I’m not against it or paying for it.
Even when checking the full version right now, there are still a lot of parts missing compared to what the vanilla server actually generates.
but i think isnt going with the main topic with this channel so.

You understand that I’m trying to collect every little detail, every post, every article from different people just to make sense of all these parameters and build something concrete, right?
it’s not even enough to understand what’s still missing on people post while reunite all settings codes parts.

@Tiago Yes, some mods can replace Beacon for certain tasks, but I still haven’t seen any mod that actually handles the server INI files.
Also about mods i can make your an example and these "stacks" override if we can callt them that isnt recommended use mods because when an update is needed then can seriously cause problems with the "childrens"
And again, when you look around online, most options are incomplete or poorly documented.
I’m still checking the wiki, but a lot of the things they mention aren’t even guaranteed to work or not in their knowledge…

So for now, looking left and right is still pretty chaotic if you want to build a fully structured file.
I’m still digging through everything and seems im not done yet .

[gray tundra]

with what is available alot of people made files and even successful community clusters. So I think it's possible, but asking people to share their work is not really something that I think you will find people willing to do. There is no difference there between Dayz or Ark

[haughty helm]

No difference ? 👀

ark and dayz ? if you say so then 🙂

[celest halo]

Mods can't edit the ini so you will never find one that changes it, you will also never find an ini with all the options seeing how anything thats using default value does not need to be in the ini

[haughty helm]

exactly thank you stolenvw

[wise kindle]

Some ppl run Vanilla with Sprinkles and a stack mod lol.
Tho I cant recommend.

[bleak ivy]

why? vanilla with sprinkles can change stacks lol.

does it without remapping with most stack mods don't do.

[near hawk]

They do it to live with the thrill of always being able to lose everything

[celest halo]

dont need a mod for that, ark is good at doing that on its own

[bleak ivy]

consoles can't and they seem to be having issues sometimes

[celest halo]

was talking about losing everything not changing stack sizes 🤣

[bleak ivy]

oh

[wise kindle]

I did say, I dont recommend it lol

[last magnet]

...the server config page on the wiki has alllll the settings and defaults. not a pretty copy paste page, but it explains everything. and my server manager has default game & gus ini templates. mods also have their own settings and even a few of them are on the wiki, but most use gdocs

I do grumble about the mods that only have the inis in their discords, most of my discord list is mod discords

[atomic cliff]

im trying to run a dedicated server and my friend cant find it on unnofical server lists?

[last magnet]

self hosted or nitrado?

and they should also check filters

[open lotus]

I went on vacation for a couple weeks and shutdown my servers while I was gone. Now I'm back and am trying to get my LostServer server back up and it's now cooperating. I've fully updated it and verified the files but it gets stuck at the following step every time. Any ideas?

Added Explorer Note Entry: dearjane_exp_note_7
Destroying Structure: Item Cache at 0,0,0
Destroying Structure: Item Cache at 0,0,0
Destroying Structure: Item Cache at 0,0,0
Destroying Structure: Item Cache at 0,0,0
Destroying companion on save game load (normal): Dino ID [97294038,403037418]

[vale galleon]

anyone a hint how to deactivate the artifact beacons in the caves (i could replace the items in it but not completely deactivate the spawn itself)

[haughty helm]

Hello im trying to set up the ini , what is this for ?

DisableDefaultMapItemSets=![DisableDefaultMapItemSets]

thank you 🙂

[serene osprey]

Need some help. Players reported that almost everything was missing from all of their bases after our auto server restart last night. File size went from 45 to 26. I've gone back and restored one by one up to about 24 hours back now, and still nothing is restoring

[haughty helm]

Did u try ask to your hoster ?

[serene osprey]

I am the owner. Nitrado wont do anything lol

[drifting cypress]

Nitrado is a joke. You had a rollback and have no valid save. for the future you want to check your server save times I think Nitrado defaults to 2 hours which is not terrible but you have to be sure the files exist. Dont auto restart. Do restarts when and if the server gets buggy and at least you have a chance to avoid a random restart

[drifting cypress]

Not without a mod your best bet is to set their loot tables

[vale galleon]

thanks! gonna check it

[haughty helm]

so as far i played a bit in to i found other couple stuff i would like change 🙂

hmm the player level is stuck to 50 ?

the bigger level should be a little less chance to spawn maybe? i found out a lot of acrochanto spawn everywhere ..

and the farming resurce wasnt really a lot , couple trees and i had like over 2000 tatch , for a mid server what u guys think ?
before starting more testing with tools and so on , i found out a settings that talk about stack ? any idea about it ?
itemstacksizemultiplier

[peak timber]

Anybody know how to set up a steams x epic games server

[bleak ivy]

ASE or ASA, selfhost or hosting service

[cold marlin]

Game: ARK : Survival Evolved Platform: Steam, Windows 10 (Xbox Play Anywhere) Issue Type: Crash/Disconnect Map: The Island, The Center, Ragnarok, Scorched Earth, Aberration, Valguero, Extinction, Genesis Part 1, Genesis Part 2, Crystal Isles, Lost Island, Fjordur, Asraeos, Lost Colony Game Mode: Unofficial What is your Client Version Number?: 358.26 What is your Server Version Number?: 358.24 Server Name: [EN/TH] SKYPIEA PVPVE SS2 - Extinction x10 8MAN Using Mods?: yes

Hi, I need help with a BattlEye issue on ARK: Survival Evolved (Steam version).

Error:
"You have been kicked by BattlEye. Reason: Bad Service Version"

Problem:

• I can join a server normally at first.
• But when I switch/join another server, I get kicked with the error above.
• After that, I cannot join any server unless I restart my PC.

Game version:
358.26

Things I already tried:

• Verified game files
• Reinstalled BattlEye
• Restarted BEService
• Deleted BEService and reinstalled it
• Ran Steam as Administrator
• Restarted PC multiple times
• Cleared ARK cache/mod files

The issue still happens every time I switch servers.

Does anyone know if this is a known issue with the current patch or BattlEye version?

[cold marlin]

I fixed the issue.

The problem was caused by Windows 10. After upgrading to Windows 11, the BattlEye “Bad Service Version” error disappeared and I can switch servers normally now.

[open lotus]

I'm still stuck getting this game back up. I tried a fresh install with all the same settings and it started up fine. Then I restored the last backup to that install and it gets stuck at the same point. So, it seems that something in the new server version is incompatible with my game data. I've got months of work into this game and would love to not lose it before I'm finished. Anyone got any ideas for how to get it back up?

[tawdry umbra]

Your not alone our cluster as well as many others have this happen. So far nothing has worked to fix it suggested here. This will not be an isolated incident once it happened it never stopped happening for last 2 months.

[tawdry umbra]

You will have to roll back to the last non corrupted save. It won’t be the most recent save, the bug occurs at some point but it does not show itself or be apparent until a restart. We’ve had to do 3 to 4 day rollbacks weekly, it’s killing the cluster

[broken stream]

@tawdry umbra @serene osprey https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/bugs/faulty-inventory-saving-r99644/
Please contribute to this

[wintry tinsel]

is anyone else unofficial server also laggiing like crazy

lagging like not low fps but freezes

[wise kindle]

Oh nvm

[glossy siren]

same here its like we can walk around but cant get anything to work

[strange maple]

Hello, I have a non-dedicated server on ragnarok with my brother on ASA and we wanted to do canon bosses but we can't on ragnarok, I heard that a cluster could make us able to. How do I set up a cluster on a non-dedicated server?

[wintry tinsel]

Dude don't play non dedicated

It's worst the teathering distance is worse than ase

[strange maple]

Isn't that much of an issue for me

[wise kindle]

Cant cluster non dedi

So its an issue now lol

[strange maple]

Really no way?

To do it?

[wise kindle]

Its not a thing

[strange maple]

Can I transfer them to the island then?

[wise kindle]

By uploading you can try this

[gloomy bison]

are server says gameserver, no server name, map or version of the game, its also greyed out on server list in game, restarted it ten time and wont work, any tips

[narrow rose]

Ive got an issue where i am trying to host an ark SE server using ASM, the thing is im having to use a tool called play.it to get around the fact i am behind CGNAT. has anyone got a server to work in this type of situation. i can get the server to post, it says its LAN only but even then i cant connect to in LAN any help would be appreciated

[wise kindle]

You could try to restore a backup:

Stop the server
General settings > Start with backup
Choose a game save (with a recent date)
Hit the SAVE button
Wait for the save to complete
Restart the server

Give it 15-20 minutes to show up.
Note that due to the nature of the game not all backups are good and you may have to try more than one or 2 backup files.

[narrow rose]

lost/timedout pending connection to host, still struggling any help?

[serene osprey]

Curious, having issues with a few dino wipe mods, anyone have one they recommend that works consistently?

[near hawk]

Just destroywilddinos

And for wild eggs I got

cheat DestroyActors DroppedItemGeneric_FertilizedEgg_RockDrake_NoPhysics_C 0

Prob changing the rake part enough for the others

Since cheat destroyall DroppedItemGeneric_FertilizedEgg_RockDrake_NoPhysics_C 1 doesn't seem to want to work in ASA

Works on the nets themselves for some reason

[wise kindle]

Rcon wipes work well

[autumn hornet]

only dedicated servers have to be clustered to be able to transfer between maps from server to server. you don't need to cluster on sp/non-dedi bc you can transfer between maps at any time

[strange maple]

So I just transfer them and that's it?

[autumn hornet]

yep. the only difference is you have to upload your stuff at an Ob or the tek transmitter (make sure you're in the right tab). iirc, it's a 50 item limit. don't forget the armor your wearing and your shoulder pet (i've left my poor otter behind so many times). i highly suggest making a backup save right before transferring just in case

[strange maple]

Alright thanks i'll remember that also I can transfer them to another map and back right?

[autumn hornet]

oh yea. you can transfer back and forth as many times and as often as you want to any map you have installed

[strange maple]

Alright nice thanks for the help

[autumn hornet]

np

[autumn hornet]

if you didn't set the UDP rules in windows firewall, that could prevent you from connecting locally. don't know anything about playit.gg, tho. maybe there's a discord, subreddit or smth for it?

[somber arrow]

Anyone else getting huge overspawns of pengiuns on the center?

Like, i'm getting 20,000 spawn unless i wild dino wipe each 3-4 days

[autumn hornet]

oh hell, don't tell me the asa version now has overspawn problems too. if your playing vanilla, i'm starting to believe that map is cursed

[serene osprey]

is there a way to add skill points to a target player? I can add it to myself but cant find it for a target player

[sour pasture]

Cheat addexperiencetotarget 100 0 0 xp_(type of xp)
Https://www.dododex.com/admin-commands?id=addexperiencetotarget

[sour pasture]

If you don’t have Dododex already you should download it and it has pretty much any command you could need lol I’ve been using Dododex for years and had no idea it had that till just recently and wish I had 🤣

[fickle parcel]

Looking for someone who knows how to use beacon whos willing to assist me in setting up server configs and figuring out what im doing lol

[shell cedar]

chatgpt is your best friend for coding on beacon if you don't know what your doing

[last magnet]

Beacon has help videos and pages on things, what are you looking for in particular? plus they have their own discord (linked on the website)

[fickle parcel]

Just like setting up mods and config files and stuff like that. I know how to do it if I’m in Nitrado but I get more control in beacon so I’m trying to do it in there.

[last magnet]

ah, I self-host so i have no idea about that. but they do have a guide on how to link beacon and nitrado on the site.

[somber arrow]

I run 9 different maps and The Center/ Penguins is the only overspawn issue i have. So it's not widespread.

[latent coral]

Hey All, i ran into a issue that i know should be simple to fix but im out of ideas.... maybe im over tired haha

All my servers boot and goes live but only i can join from my home. Players not on the network get the 'Connection Timedout' error when trying to join from the server list.

My ports are forwarded correctly and the firewall rules are all active and correct.

Does anyone have any other ideas of what im likely missing? thank you

[safe hare]

your ports are not forwarded correctly

or your ip is not public

it might also be you windows firewall not being setup correctly

[tepid berry]

Patch notes, patch notes!

[frosty kernel]

can some one help me every time i join my friend sever in ase his gam crash

[alpine arch]

My friend keeps crashing on our unofficial server too

[frosty kernel]

well do u know how to fix it

@alpine arch

[alpine arch]

Not yet but im searching on the internet

Ill update when i find a solution

[frosty kernel]

k

[valid forge]

Anyone ever use the arkology mod on Xbox? I’m having trouble getting it to work and haven’t found anything helpful online. Or someone who just knows how mod troubleshooting works, I’m bad at tech

[fickle parcel]

anyone know how to get tip4serv to work with Nitrado?

[paper hornet]

My friend bought a server on Nitrado and we get this message when trying to join:

“CONNECTION FAILED
Lost/timedout pending connection to host.
Would you like to wait to automatically join this session?“

After many attempts, my friend and I finally managed to get into the server, but the rest of our friends still can’t join. The two of us who managed to enter are on PC and Xbox.

Does anyone know how to fix this or what could be causing it?

[fickle parcel]

have you tried server restart?

[paper hornet]

We already tried that, but they still couldn’t join. The only people who were able to enter were the ones who had already joined the server before.

[fickle parcel]

If you have it modded make sure all your mods are compattible with all systems sounds like its either compatibility conflict or they dont have the mods installed

[paper hornet]

It doesn’t have any mods, it’s just vanilla Ark.

[placid sable]

I swear that there is an ini line that allows you to put crop plots in caves on ASE. Is there not one for ASA?

I have tried allow cave building, both PVP and PVE, ignore structure prevention volumes, and still nothing.

[sour pasture]

I can help! Just message me

Does any have advice on how to make custom server flyer or logo? I’ve seen some really cool ones with the names and ark Dino’s and I’m just not sure how to blend it all if that makes sense

[fickle parcel]

I made some really nice ones with AI

Also I added you on discord.

[pale sentinel]

What's the best server manager? I was using WindowsGSM with the Ark ascended plugin, but I'm curious what others are using?

I used to just use the command line interface and rcon haha so I'm curious what others are using?

I'm not entirely opposed to spending money but I'd rather not have to.

I selfhost on my own dedicated machine (Proxmox with windows / ubuntu vms) so I'm not really limited by platform in that way.

[celest halo]

Custom discord bot and ansible playbooks 🤣

[pale sentinel]

Context?

[pale sentinel]

What?

[celest halo]

There is no context, I made a custom discord bot and ansible playbooks to manage my cluster 😂

[haughty helm]

hello how i can hide these yellow words fly walk etc

from the creative mod

[wise kindle]

-NotifyAdminCommandsInChat
https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Server_configuration

[umbral jewel]

hi, i have a problem when transferring my nitrado server to ark dedicated server on steam, the structures and everything is right but when i log in i have to create a new character and idk how to fix this

[narrow rose]

see ive tried this. Playit lets you reroute data to an external IP to your IP, i do this because my provider uses CGNAT. im struggling to get ark to propperly connect to steam services, my assumption is that its playit config but if anyone had attempted this same setup before it would be helpful to know.

[haughty helm]

ty

[mental kernel]

Does someone here have insight on what windows should i run on VM for ark servers or are there really no differences to be found?

[celest halo]

Don't really matter, if you go with a server version going to need to install cert files, even with 10/11 you might have to

[lavish light]

Is there any hosting here that uses Pterodactyl?

[shut lily]

Anyone who is self hosting been having players randomly disconnect to main menu with no message like 2 or so times a day since about a week or so ago? Wondering if its something on my end or some kind of bug they introduced lately

[austere needle]

#bobs-with-probs message

[iron bronze]

I am making an ASA Discord bot with a bunch of features and I need some testers! Please dm me if you are interested for more info ^^

[fickle parcel]

anyone know if world builder mod for ASA saves through wipes?

[shut lily]

It does. It saves it in a separate folder and not in the map save. Just make sure not to delete the world builder folder. If you are nitrado idk

[west mortar]

Can anyone help me please I am trying to make the bullets in arkomatic ammunition crafter to cost fiber it just won't stick no matter what please help

[wise kindle]

Have you asked this in the arkomatic discord?

[west mortar]

O

No

[west mortar]

noone has answered anyone in arkomatic discord in about a year lol @wise kindle

[wise kindle]

then you may be using an inactive mod

[open arrow]

So i finally set up a completely vanilla server to test this and WildCard seem to have an over spawn issue.

The real issue is if you use mods/settings/APIs to fix the spawn it'll just over spawn the next creature to no end.

Can anyone else confirm this is happening to them? so i can report this to wildcard, buts its not a mod i can safely say.

[wise kindle]

What dinos and where? what map?

[near hawk]

overspawn of WHAT?

had my astra non modded for a comple of days and noticed no overspawns (just bees all clustering together)
then modded it to hell and back (50 creature mods) and somehow was mostly sane (just 1 modder that replaced 60% of ichy with a creature that spawns in pods of 6, no wonder that went bad)

[open arrow]

its really really dumb, so i noticed it when i had a server have 120 gigas, server has been running a year and its not a setting change ect or a new mod causing it.
So, i used spawn blocker to limit the spawn to 3... then spino spawns jumped up to 400.... ok limited them, now i have 600 queen bees on the island map :/

[near hawk]

no server should have 120 gigas wtf

[open arrow]

but i can a developer confirm this.
Amissa (Mod Map) had 400 Karkinos
EX had 1400 Armadoggos
so on

[open arrow]

ohhh im a close to vanilla server so i get it lol

[near hawk]

the issue persist after dino wipe?

[open arrow]

do you use a admin tool that can search your wild dinos by any chance?

[near hawk]

u mean listdinos?

[open arrow]

my swamps had 80 rhynios too for example lol

[open arrow]

yeah i have daily wipes set up

[wise kindle]

i dont trust anything other than listdinos tbh
only overspawn i see atm is the brontos but thats from the EVO herb mod

[near hawk]

ok, amissa has karkins, ext has doggos, which has gigas?

[open arrow]

i use aseome admin tools
but tried der dino finder incase it was AAT

[near hawk]

amissa can't comment on since never touched it

i could launch a ext and let it rn and check for overspawns

[open arrow]

island map had crazy gigas, center had 40 carcha and 100 gigas

[open arrow]

yeah whats odd is it wont already be the same dino

its like the game randomly picks a dino to over spawn

then hits it damn hard, obviously i dont want 100 gigas to be so easy to find but also ram increases and lag spikes for players

[near hawk]

if a overspawn of any happens and persist it coud be acatual issue

[wise kindle]

Looks like it leans on large dinos

[open arrow]

i teleport to the locations to confirm

[open arrow]

i had 500 queen bees on island

[wise kindle]

Whelp there goes that idea

well tbh I'm ok with extra bees

[open arrow]

after a few blocks its weird, but would be great if another cluster could confirm any kinda over spawn

[rugged niche]

500 Bees is crazy, you sure the settings are correct?

[open arrow]

yeah it was crazy but after a dino wipe i can risk it switching

[near hawk]

my island is unmodded, just ini for resistance and loot table, gonna start it and run it for 2h

[rugged niche]

thinks its bc of Mod tbh

[open arrow]

im just outta ideas, i use shiny mod so limiting all spawn (which i did) means nothing can spawn shiny

[open arrow]

all i did was put the AAT mod on so i could view the dino spawns and ran a fresh installed server

same results 30k dinos after an hour and looked through the list to find something over spawning

[rugged niche]

checked any inis and config files if they are up to date and correctly setuped?

[near hawk]

30k is like normal number in most normal size maps (astra hits me at 55 60)

[rugged niche]

ASE had more spawns than ASA i feel however, i notice it on Scorched Earth Wyvern Trench

[open arrow]

all up to date but ran vanilla and compared to my full set up and same result, i have a different server manager too so checked that too and same result

[wise kindle]

Thats the issue with so many different kinds of dinos. Where to put them all and have them spawn correctly.
Theres what? 238 of them now?

[rugged niche]

crazy amount of Dinos in this game ya

[open arrow]

yeap, global spawn is normal but when looking at the individual dinos find like 400-500 yutys or whatever is crazy

[wise kindle]

its nuts. Im shocked this doesnt happen more often

[rugged niche]

acro i seen spawn a few on SE Officials but nothing crazy as 50 in a small area

[open arrow]

and i do know the approximate number for spawns
liek 1000 dodos, 12, dilo, 40ish rex for island... im talking a crazy over spawn

coel i had at 12000 on island at one point

[wise kindle]

I have to buff those kinds of spawns. Or they disappear lol

[open arrow]

yeah apparently thats the only known offical over spawn

[rugged niche]

How many gigas you getting on your Vanilla Island Cloud?

[wise kindle]

I saw ppl complaining about penguin overspawns, dunno if thats a thing. I guess they are falling in the mesh and respawning.

[rugged niche]

if more than 1 or i think max two then you have a very serious issue

i forgot what the default spawn are

[open arrow]

so if your fresh starting a map it might not be gigas, it'll pick a random dino to over spawn, but i noticed this bug when it choose to over spawn gigas at 100+

[rugged niche]

100+ Gigas is crazy for The Island for example

[open arrow]

oh if its helps too, these dino were spawning in the correct contians, so its not like i was getting yuty in the redwoods or anything, it was just a mass overspawn in their correct locations

[near hawk]

My server is running

Gonna dinner and report soon

[rugged niche]

i have access to server as well, currently turned off

[open arrow]

yeah i had to talk with a map dev to go through spawns so i could get vanilla settings on some things that sounded wrong but im pretty clued up now haha

[rugged niche]

Ya i can understand that

[open arrow]

Appreciated, im kinda hoping we all can confirm an overspawn so we can submit a bug report with some weight behind it

[rugged niche]

also one thing exactly which version do you of the server 86.25?

[open arrow]

yeah 🙂

[rugged niche]

Im on officials atm i see 86.23 and SE version .21

[open arrow]

ive 100% covered all the basics 🙂 tried fresh server installs on 3 pcs to confirm, 2 using artis manager 1 using ASA dedi manager

[rugged niche]

is your server self hosted or rented?

[open arrow]

all the same results

[open arrow]

private, self hosted 🙂

[rugged niche]

one way to figure out if thats the issue sadly is to rent one even if just for 3 days, nitrado has that low amount of time to rent for luckily but it obviously paywalled i think 5-6 USD for 3 days

[open arrow]

im thinking its something WC messed up for unofficial. It might be unrelated but ive notice a slight increased in server start time and ram useage so like a minor memory leak kinda thng, but thats just a guess not based on much

[open arrow]

no worries, just taking the time to give some feedback has been appreciated

[wise kindle]

I am Nitrado if that helps. Would be very weird if that makes a difference.

[rugged niche]

it can bc of files, Nitrado has the official rulebook even for Unofficials, Self hosted is downloaded throu steam

[open arrow]

i cant confrim if its affecting nitrido, offical dont have a way to search the dino list so if they have a dumb company overspawn they wouldnt know

[wise kindle]

curious if ya'll see the penguin thing. Had someone asking about it and I had no answer cuz I wasnt seeing it.

[rugged niche]

i am mostly on Officials but no

[open arrow]

ohhhh i had 3000 penguin on center at one point too

they were all in the water

[rugged niche]

i do know Mesh has issues on Unofficials with loading

[wise kindle]

hmmm, ok you may not be alone then.

[rugged niche]

i think the issue lies with the actual spawn and under map meshing

since those 3k Peingouns might be under map the game doesnt count them as spawned or something

i recall a friend mentioned tames and dinos falling under mesh as of this week

[open arrow]

i can confirm they are there

i teleport to the area and its lag city, 1frame a minuet job and crash

only in the water under the ice for center