unofficial-setup-help

[deft stone]

and if the mods are remove, i think some structure still stay into the savegame and cause a crash

[rotund light]

Nope, they are removed when loading the savegame. You can see that because it will be smaller then the one with the structures.

[deft stone]

some still crash if they remove all mods. 😦

[quiet trellis]

Yeah, but well I've been enjoying my time in helldivers and enshrouded lol So honestly, even though Ark is unique, after all the struggle throughout the many years I spent hosting and playing ASE, now to have to deal with literally the same issues that were previously fixed just took the last bit of enjoyment I had with the game and most of the players in my server

[hazy silo]

try warframe or bdo

[quiet trellis]

Fair enough, I refunded enshrouded once 😂 until I started hosting and playing with a friend, its a lot more fun than playing SP

[hazy silo]

sounds like your friend is the "content" so by that logic just play any game with your friend and it'll be fun

yea i've not been too happy with the latest content in warframe either, maybe try life skilling in bdo? there's more than just "grinding" if that's not for you

[quiet trellis]

Not quite though, some of the tasks/quests in the game makes more sense when playing with someone else also a lot less grinding for the building part which in this game is quite amazing what you can do in terms of building

Also if you guys never heard of it, Icarus is pretty fun as well

weekly major updates, they actually have a ptr and they actually listen to the community

[hazy silo]

yea it's not really for casuals, i can agree with you there, i'm not sure what your talking about with the lack of content as that doesn't make any sense to me, the game literally has more content that any other game i've played ( I can send you a list if needed, it's really long :D)

The armor system was changed, it's now alot easier and in some cases they just hand u nice boss gear.

[quiet trellis]

Closest thing you'll get to Ark would be Atlas or Conan

[hazy silo]

i skipped all the story, cutscenes, and still 5k+ hours in the game lol 😄

[late matrix]

This might not be a full fix but can help, try using the -passivemod command line to keep the mod assets and try to load your server. Plug is gotta be disabled as well.

[quiet trellis]

not even making LoveEvolved passive fixed for me

[hazy silo]

yea that's fair, maybe make your own game man

like what ?

okay yea that's fair, enjoy then 🙂

dogma looks like it might be good, i'm still trying not to get excited, games these days....

[quiet trellis]

everything is EA now lol so tired of having to wait for a full released game

[hazy silo]

a spokesman for EA gave a speech around that time that "enlightened" game dev on how to make more money from their games using some relatively predatory practices

man these guys are something huh

[deft stone]

we are lucky they didnt find a way to sell patches...

you bet, today alot of people would pay to have their server working 😉

[desert plover]

My server can sit where it is till its sorted, im happy on RDR2

[deft stone]

it was a bit sarcastics 🙂 I think wildcard goal are not the same as when they created ARK. at that time their goal was to producre a realy slick game. Now the goal is to make money. That make a big difference

[dull oyster]

so am I correct in assuming the servers are boned until they get it sorted?

[deft stone]

yes and no... you could just try to start fresh to see if its a mods problem or not... but yes if you want to keep your progression there is nothing you can do except waiting for a patch from WC or from the modders

[dull oyster]

yeah that sounds about right for wc lol

between my plugins and mod list I haven't a clue, I tried looking at the crash stack but I can't make heads or tails of it

[deft stone]

same here no issue but i have only 3 mods (love evolved, giganto, dinos level)

[quiet trellis]

A lot of the mods that adds structures to the game seems to be giving the issues

probably due to change in shaders

Lethal have fixed his plugins and Pela plugins didn't affect the server, so plugins are not the reason

[lavish gulch]

Its a wild card problem, if many mods such as shinys and super-cryos and qol are being mentioned, its wild cards fault. Stop pointing fingers to the ones keeping ark alivie (modders). Wait till it’s resolved, and then keep on. Or dont play on modded servers at all.

[eternal lance]

man, fuck wildcard

[quiet trellis]

But we didn't point fingers on modders? lol We are completely blaming WC on this

[deft stone]

i dont point them, for sure wildcard have change something ,but they need to adjust to the new reality

[dull oyster]

then I'll have to wait for the mods to be updated if it is the shaders, it's no big deal since I made the expense to actually own my own box for servers my population died because the ark devs said "fuck them owners" with that 'show player servers' box they did

[quiet trellis]

Well if he was on a break, he was forced to get back yesterday, he had to fix lethal decays and some other plugins that broke with the update

[deft stone]

what is the difference between mods and plugins?

[quiet trellis]

In a general way plugins doesn't requite players to download them in order for them to work, also they can make some changes to the game that mods wouldn't be able to.

[dull oyster]

I'd like to think of it as hardware and software, the plugins run on the back end of the server mods are the front end

[quiet trellis]

Yeah, he took a break on mods probably, but he is still actively working on plugins for ASA

[lone stream]

these are two different Lethals. DS Lethal still on a break, Plugins Lethal is very active.

[willow crystal]

something new about mod crashes?

[deft stone]

Radio Silence

[willow crystal]

sad...

[arctic basin]

Let they work

[peak sapphire]

Not sure if answered yet as your message was several hours ago, but unlike ASE, the old setting no longer works so you would have to manually wild dino wipe either through in-game, while the server is stopped in the settings, or through external tools. With that said, you can install the Automated Dino Wipes mod and configue wiping on server restart, and/or schedule them throughout the day. The mod also includes options for nests, beehives and caves.

[jovial lantern]

does unnoficial stilll not work???

[slate bridge]

nope broken still

[jovial lantern]

bruh

[arctic basin]

still

rip my ark community since yesterday 😂

you can donate if you want help to survive !

Cause you not use some mods i use, and lot of people use

[pseudo glade]

for my server it appears Shiny! is the issue causing crashes. ive tested every other mod with the plugins and it works fine, but with many of peoples dinos coming from shiny we are at the mercy of an update from either WC or Shiny! mod devs

[jaunty vortex]

More let them sleep. Pretty sure SW are west coast USA.

[arctic basin]

certainly, we have to be patient, they are not AI

[arctic basin]

This and Klinger into the custom cosmetic, and the mod alone without custom cosmectic

[heavy jay]

anyone who has the shiny mod and has removed it did dino stats change I know the effects would disappear after removing but what about the lvls and stats

[distant hearth]

lvls an stats will stay , dunno if it still does, but used be if you removed it, they just lost the shiny ability, but then adding it again brought them back

[heavy jay]

Thx all the players on my server love the shiny mod and is all anyone tames so I don't want it affecting the breeding and muts people have been working on

[distant hearth]

yea shiny one my fave too, take a full backup for precuation, can always revert back then

[arctic basin]

Steambot mod crash too

[simple drift]

Do we know which mods are causing the crashes?

Appears to be more then just Shiny Dinos

[eternal lance]

so is everyone's game crashing when they load into Island?

[lone slate]

Ya

[desert plover]

pretty much

[charred solstice]

The server with new update, delete things.

[heavy jay]

It be nice to have a channel where everyone list the mods they know are having issues I think it would help out a lot of people

[simple drift]

Yuppp

[simple drift]

i agree

[quiet trellis]

problem is that is not a consistent issue, some people have problems with some mods and others don't, and there are mods like shiny that is breaking for everyone

[dull apex]

Removing the Shiny mod won't delete the dinos, but they will lose their funny names like "Hefty Paisley Dodo"

[indigo bay]

@wise kindle even with the patch we’re still having issues crashing bad we’re trying to get to our buddy that has everything to build are base on him but we crash when we get remotely close to him….. any tips?

[small wharf]

hey guys anyone know this problem?The game flickers so badly I can barely play

[quiet trellis]

modded structures, they will be fixed once the modders update the mods

[quiet trellis]

try changing Global illumination, anything but medium

[pseudo glade]

Probably would remove their bonuses too. I.e fathomless gives weight reduction

[dull apex]

My server runs fine with Shiny Dinos removed, but now I have client side crashes. I ran around the map until I hit a place where it just crashed, and now it always crashes on load (since I'm in the same spot, lol)

[small wharf]

i gonna try this

[indigo bay]

We do have quite a few modded structures since we new new

[arctic basin]

Klinger, Shiny, SteamBot (Klinger) and others

[quiet trellis]

if there are modded structures within range, you are out of luck, until they fix it

[indigo bay]

We got less than a combined 30 hours @quiet trellis

[lone slate]

Ced said he’d keep us updated… 17 hours ago! 😐

[indigo bay]

He’s probably working irl

[arctic basin]

They need to sleep too ^^

[quiet trellis]

timezone diff

[lone slate]

They do have more employees, right?

[small wharf]

hey guys anyone know this problem?The game flickers so badly I can barely play in ASE

[lone slate]

They honestly just need to remove the whole update until they figure it out

[quiet trellis]

are you using gsync or freesync?

[quiet trellis]

they are all pretty much in the same timezone

[lone slate]

Nice lol “oh we broke the game, shucks… let’s go bed”

[small wharf]

nop

[quiet trellis]

try disabling ambient occlusion

[dull apex]

Ugh, makes sense. I think the entire map (Svartalfheim) is custom stuff.

[quiet trellis]

also more detail on how it behaves so we can understand the issue

[small wharf]

mostly in the inventory

[small wharf]

sometimes in the world

[quiet trellis]

the map shouldn't be an issue, but structures from klingers, arktect or other building mods are probably the issue

[quiet trellis]

did you try to disable ambient occlusion?

[small wharf]

yes doesnt work

[dull apex]

Not using any custom structure mods, alas. Currently trying to run with zero mods except the map and it still crashes on the client side.

[small wharf]

its not my pc causing the problem all on the server have the same issue

[quiet trellis]

try this

Nvidia Control panel > Manage 3D Settings > Program Tab (Make sure Ark - aka "Shootergame" is selected) > change the settings here:

*Maximum pre-rendered frames 1

*Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration Single display performance

Power management mode - Prefer maximum performance

Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization On

Texture filtering - Quality Performance

Texture filtering - Trilinear optimization On

Triple buffering Off

[dull apex]

I'm going to update my Nvidia driver first and if that doesn't help, tyvm for the suggestions :)

[quiet trellis]

Interesting, if anyone in the server can get to where you are without crashing they might be able to drag you far enough so you can hop back on and avoid that area for the time being

[dull apex]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the two big things that are different between Official and Unofficial are BattlEye and mods, is that right?

[quiet trellis]

Rates, battleye, mods and plugins depending on the host

[cobalt crag]

He's ashamed, the unofficials have been dead since yesterday, and they don't deign to look at the discord

[rotund light]

The developers are aware of the mod problems and are working on a solution. Got this info from another mod builder discord.

[deft stone]

ty for the info

[indigo bay]

i keep crashing

should i update to 36.11

[distant hearth]

36.11 has the best chance of working but some mods still wont work yet

[indigo bay]

I’m going to try it

[small wharf]

thank you for helping me and my pookie wookie have a nice day and may ur pillow be cold on both sides <3

[quiet trellis]

lol you're welcome

[lucid igloo]

So how do I fix this problem with reloop of restarting my ark by it self because it’s getting annoying..

[quiet trellis]

You don't

Just have to wait for a patch and mods to be updated

[ashen stratus]

So again just goes to show Wildcard doesnt care at all about Unofficial 🤣 companies a joke

[odd folio]

My Server started but every becomes a bluescree

[mystic wigeon]

If my players connect they just get a fetal error lol

[ashen stratus]

Same for everyone mate. Wildcard have screwed teh pooch on this one. But wont admit they messed up theyw ill just blame modders. Even though our map has 0 mods and doesnt work 🤣

[indigo bay]

so we updated are mods and server and were stil having crashing issues

[quiet trellis]

all you have left is to wait for a fix

[odd folio]

Yes, and you can Do nothing. Every Update the same s...t

[mystic wigeon]

Maybe they need to test beforehand 👀

[odd folio]

Maybe 🤣

[quiet trellis]

QA?! Unheard of

[dull apex]

This one? Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x000000000000000f

[indigo bay]

I get that same thing^^^

[sacred kestrel]

What's a good bot for auto assigning roles

[dull apex]

Somebody screwed up a pointer somewhere in the code or something, lol

[quiet trellis]

atlas

[quiet trellis]

btw svar is broken it's been confirmed

[dull apex]

The faulty code is probably under a comment which reads

// This code should never execute because this can't happen

[quiet trellis]

they probably forgot a ";" somewhere

[dull apex]

lol

[dull apex]

Yeah... I can move around a lot of the map, but certain places cause the crash and then I have to restore from backup.

[restive knot]

i have the same issue on Island.

[wise kindle]

Free or Premium version?
I can log into free but crash after a bit of traveling around.

[dull apex]

Premium, so I guess it affects all maps

[late estuary]

Question about 36.11. When they rolled things back last night, I re-added Love Ascended and re-checked the box, but things still didn't work. Now that 36.11 is out, if Im done with the event should I go back to removing Love Ascended and unchecking the box before bringing my server back up with the new version?

[dull apex]

People were reporting that Love Ascended was causing a server crash, your mileage may vary

[distant hearth]

i wudnt trust it yet tbh,
wait till they fix what ever jankiness they done to work around

[late estuary]

It sounds like some mods are ok and some are not?

[distant hearth]

yep exactly that

[late estuary]

Ok so really just a roll of the dice on if it'll work or not

I need to start making backups more often

[dull apex]

Based on my diploma from Google U, the client side crash is in Unreal Engine when it tries to GetInstancedSubobject()

[late estuary]

Well that's interesting. I wonder if I'd find any references to that in my logs....

[distant hearth]

100% atleast twice a week imo

[dull apex]

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x000000000000000f

CL: 484455
0x00007ff606eb04e2 ArkAscended.exe!FObjectInstancingGraph::GetInstancedSubobject() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\CoreNative.cpp:216]
0x00007ff606f5e452 ArkAscended.exe!FObjectPropertyBase::InstanceSubobjects() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\PropertyBaseObject.cpp:60]
0x00007ff606fbde08 ArkAscended.exe!FObjectInitializer::InstanceSubobjects() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectGlobals.cpp:3938]
0x00007ff606fbda1a ArkAscended.exe!FObjectInitializer::PostConstructInit() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectGlobals.cpp:3848]
0x00007ff606fbd548 ArkAscended.exe!FObjectInitializer::~FObjectInitializer() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectGlobals.cpp:3695]
0x00007ff606fbe78a ArkAscended.exe!StaticConstructObject_Internal() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\UObject\UObjectGlobals.cpp:4348]
0x00007ff6050f0478 ArkAscended.exe!NewObject<AActor>() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Public\UObject\UObjectGlobals.h:1637]

[distant hearth]

if/when nitrado just randomly deletes the whole lot an says oops, you will thank me

[quiet trellis]

Crashes are most likely the shaders that they changed in the last patch

[dull apex]

That's the top portion of the crash window

[dull apex]

I don't know enough about Unreal Engine to say, all I can tell is that they're referencing an invalid memory address while trying to render something.

[late estuary]

So maybe a file got moved, and whatever calling it wasnt updated

[dull apex]

Mebbe

[quiet trellis]

Yeah most likely trying to render reflections/shadows and since most of the mods haven't updated yet they break the server

Including svar since its a mod itself

[dull apex]

This is a client side crash I'm dealing with... I fixed all my server crashes by removing some mods

[quiet trellis]

Yeah it is client side

[dull apex]

The server remains running when this happens

But I see what you're saying.

The map itself has some object in it that isn't playing nicely with the UE changes

[quiet trellis]

Your game is trying to render something that isn't there which leads to the crash

[quiet trellis]

Yeah it all comes back to the change in shaders

As well as for structure mods

[long zenith]

Im trying to run my server with the SteamCD stuff, but i get when it ryt o start the server. "The system cannot find the file specified.
Press any key to continue . . .
"

[languid plank]

Are unofficials working and running now? was having all sorts of time outs last night.

[quiet trellis]

Do you have steamcmd in the folder you are trying to run the code from?

[quiet trellis]

No, still same issue

[long zenith]

I wich i culd send a picture here.. But i belive yes.. I followed step by step tutorial

[quiet trellis]

You can dm me

[long zenith]

I tried. but i get a error from you when i tryu

I sent you a friend request 🙂

[languid plank]

alright. hopefully tonight then

[late estuary]

No luck here. Pulled server down, removed Love Asc and unchecked box, ran update and brought server back up, still crashing on login. Xbox

[quiet trellis]

What other mods you have zurx?

[late estuary]

Custom Dino Levels, Greenhouse Glass Fix, Randi's Wireless Power Transmitter Mod, Any Colour Sets, RR Medieval Roleplay Deco, MarniiMods Hairstyles, Wall'n'Floor Decor, Circa's RP Deco, Upgrade Station, Death Recovery Mod, Nanoh's Ascended Accessories, Dino Painter, Human NPCs ASA, Super Spyglass Plus, RhythmBox, RhythmBox Skyrim, Additions Ascended - Brachiosaurus, Deinotherium, Ceratosaurus, Archelon, Deinosuchus, Helicoprion, Xiphactinus, Gigantoraptor, Admin Panel, Outdoor Decor.

[wise kindle]

I'm seeing alot of scenarios:

1. mods that are just bad
2. mods that were broken by the update
3. mods that were broken cuz of the character redesign
4. Characters that were broken by the update
5. Characters that were broken by the mods, broken by the update

[wise kindle]

The RR mods definately

[slate bridge]

im bored of waiting now XD

[wise kindle]

Also Admin panel. The modder just said its broken and to remove it cuz he cant support it any longer

[slate bridge]

wtf !

[wise kindle]

Health issues and he cant do it anymore. It is what it is I guess.

[slate bridge]

Damm i love that mod lol

[broken ferry]

@proven prawn fix the update

[late estuary]

Losing RR and Admin Panel would be pretty painful

[slate bridge]

Oh for sure ! Admin panel is a god send

[wise kindle]

RR yes but admin panel cant be helped. He said he isnt updating it.

I was looking at it for ages to use but couldnt see it as a benefit just yet. So never added it.

[slate bridge]

Its amazing

[wise kindle]

RR I been staying the HELL away from cuz they break so often its crazy.

[slate bridge]

yup same lol

[deft stone]

you miss 6. Data from broken mods into the savegame

[wise kindle]

Shhhh we dont talk about Fight Club

[deft stone]

My bad

[distant hearth]

running alot mods, you gonna get this issue likely every time they do major update, just the nature of the beast

[deft stone]

yes probably the mod API is in early stage, and will be modify

[distant hearth]

running a few mods, you might lucky, u might not , sniny was always pretty stable , till this update :/

[indigo bay]

anyone know of any other broken mods other than some structes and RR and admin panel

[distant hearth]

shiny dinos

[indigo bay]

okay i removed kragers admin panel RR and shiny any other possibly wanna get it back up for the boys tonight

[odd folio]

Which mods are broken?

[wise kindle]

the deco mods and hairstyles may also be issues.

I only have Circas deco atm and am testing it. I'll let you know if I see the issue there.

But tbh, if the modder is planning to fix the mod Id leave it. The issue with the RR and Admin Panel is the modders are out to lunch and wont be fixing them as far as I know.

Circa has also stopped supporting his mod. So I'm hoping that isnt the issue. It hasnt been an issue so far when deco mods have had issues previously, but we will see.

[distant hearth]

prob better ask, what isnt broken lolz

[deft stone]

since there is already more than 2000 mods, its hard to get a list

[odd folio]

Fr?@deft stone

[wise kindle]

If you can get the maps to boot up you are most of the way there lol.

[deft stone]

Certainement 🙂

[odd folio]

🤣

[wise kindle]

Theres about 6k when I do a full search. Its only been a couple months too. Its crazy.

[indigo bay]

we can boot up and get into inv but then crash straight away tried even hitting esc to see if letting ping setting would help

[deft stone]

i reread the message doh 🙂 i made some corrections 😉

[cyan cloak]

Have we got any news?

[distant hearth]

i have great news, the missus brought beer home

[indigo bay]

hell yeah brother

[cyan cloak]

Okay not what I meant but still amazing

Any ark related news? Is unofficial playable yet?

[indigo bay]

no shits still broken rn

[distant hearth]

depedns on the mods on the server

[wise kindle]

Nah same as last night

[cyan cloak]

Wildcard needs to un shit the bed

[wise kindle]

the update broke like 50 popular mods

and in some cases it broke literal characters.

[indigo bay]

fr we removing everything at this point and adding one by one to see which are busted

[cyan cloak]

This is fucking terrible

[wise kindle]

Yep

[indigo bay]

they just need to revert back

[cyan cloak]

How long you think till they get this thing fixed

[deft stone]

For alot of people it didnt work cause there is data into the savegame too

[indigo bay]

we just got are server before the update added mods and then boom update broke it

[cyan cloak]

Shits so stupid

[deft stone]

your best option is to roll back the map before mods added and remove mods till they fix them

[indigo bay]

its part of gaming as i see it if you wanna play with mods

ill give it a go emikiA

[deft stone]

never forget that ASA is in early access it mean it is still in developement. Mod API is realy new and enivitably will be modified before beeing stable...

[distant hearth]

Notice:
If you have been experiencing crashes or mods breaking since the recent ASA update, it is not AA/U+'s issue. This is a main game issue with the recent update. Wildcard is in the process of finding out what's going on and will get a fix out as soon as they can.
So please, just be patient and wait for a patch to come out by Wildcard.

this is from a mod discord im in

[deft stone]

yes we had the message earlier

[distant hearth]

oh sry , it just pinged for me

[hasty hatch]

My server were not getting online because of Shiny Dinos Mod

I have 23 other mods and they work fine

[deft stone]

but what is propably gonna happen, WC will provide a patch, and the moder will have to recook there mods

[deft stone]

not a problem, just telling 🙂

[distant hearth]

likely , but hopefully wc release the devkit update if needed as was wait on that last time like 3 day

[deft stone]

yep

[restive knot]

if i'm running Arkon and the server locally, can i connect to 127.0.0.1:xxxxx?

[deft stone]

normaly yes

[odd folio]

My problem is, WC telling nothing since 19 hours

[deft stone]

you can also use "open 127.0.0.1:7777 password"

[restive knot]

no router port forwarding, right?

[deft stone]

yes

[distant hearth]

u might have do firewall,even if local , depends on setup

[deft stone]

windows firewall yes, router not

[restive knot]

hmmm. RCONEnable=true in GUS, RCON port is configured, ports are open in windows fw

[deft stone]

hoo

[restive knot]

am i missing anything?

[indigo bay]

man we lost how often does this happen?

[deft stone]

maybe the rcon is listening on the actual ip of the computer, not the localhost (127.0.0.1)

[arctic basin]

U need router portforwarding, Game port + Rcon

[quiet trellis]

Sadly, more than it should

[distant hearth]

RCONEnabled Default value: False
Value type: boolean
If True, enables RCON, needs RCONPort=<TCP_PORT> and ServerAdminPassword=<admin_password> to work.

pulled from the wiki

[indigo bay]

...

[restive knot]

Thanks. that was the same guide i used.

[deft stone]

try the actual ip of the computer, not 127.0.0.1

[quiet trellis]

Been hosting since day 1 in ASA and I lost count of how many times I had to do workarounds, pull files with ftp, restore backups and so on. On Nitrado and self hosting, modded and vanilla.

[restive knot]

i tried the local IP too. still doesn't connect

[distant hearth]

kk, u might need to try it from sever start batch file, its not stated if works on asa yet from ini
most stuff does but i havent tested it that way

[quiet trellis]

Might have to join a singleplayer game in order to use open or connect

[mystic wigeon]

Tbh, that and more

[indigo bay]

oh lovely

[restive knot]

ok, i'll try that

[deft stone]

last thing i think, ark server start only if they can be reached back on port 7777 udp ... that mean you will need to configure the dnat into the firewall

[restive knot]

Thanks. I'll try that too

[deft stone]

if your firewall work correctly you should see the server appear on the unofficial server list

[blissful trout]

If it’s Dino or structure mod that is the issue then removing it will delete those dinos or structure won’t it?

[distant hearth]

yea

[restive knot]

server has been running and visible in server list for months. just trying to get rcon working. i'm tired of using the in-game console all of the time.

[blissful trout]

Then that is not such of a fix! Dumb!!

[distant hearth]

the joy of mods, there areason most of dont run many

as asa get smore stable an u figure out which mods are stable, then can add more, but i still wudnt go crazy

[indigo bay]

anyone else playing scorched earth map?

it might be are map

[distant hearth]

ase only, not out for asa

[dull apex]

Okay, I've spent two hours trying every nvidia setting I can try, updated my drivers, tried the studio drivers, tried forcing dx9 and dx11... the client still crashes at the same place on the map. I give up for now.

[distant hearth]

only on the specific server? or does it in a clean no modded single player world same place?

[dull apex]

I guess I'll give that a try... I happen to use the same save file for my single player world and test server

[distant hearth]

yea id back it up , try it clean no mods in single player

presuming u want to keep the single player anyway , otherwise just wipe i

[tepid berry]

Yeah, it's not the client that's the issue - a mod is causing the crash. Typically mods with new models/lights.

[dull apex]

What's interesting to me is that the original .ark save file is 7704 KB. If I put it on the server and run it with the latest build, it becomes 19,736 KB. I wonder what on earth it's doing to the save file.

[indigo bay]

something got fucked up

[dull apex]

Not quite true. There's a server crash and a client crash and they are probably different issues.

[pine dome]

News stations around the world are reporting the color of grass is fading. This coming after Ark Survival Ascended latest patch hiccup. Our local experts have confirmed this to be the fault of many gamers touching it for the first time.

[dull apex]

haha

Okay, let's try this in single player and see how it goes

[pine dome]

In other news, Water shortages are plaguing that nation after showers have tripled due to the latest Ark Survival Ascended patch issues.

[molten glacier]

wait 9 month ^^

[blissful trout]

Which mods to you consider stabile right now?

[indigo bay]

not many

[celest halo]

None they have to use WC things

[broken ferry]

@proven prawn Hm time left to fix it

[tawdry rain]

I don't think it's the fact that they're "unstable". They work when they have room to be updated properly. The problem is, no one at wc can use their heads and release a dev kit prior to an update so that way the mod creators they're supposed to "have in their best interests" can work on their own updates before these updates get thrown out.

[indigo bay]

now were getting add some debugger error

anyone else getting that error

[wise kindle]

The 2 mods that I thought were the issue, Circa RP Deco and Cliffans Wardrobe, run without issue on my test map.

Im gonna agree with the modders here. This is a game issue.

[leaden gyro]

Not asa players bro it stays broken 50% of the time. Plenty of grass touching… or just touching if you know what I mean

[cyan cloak]

Bruh this shit is for the birds I swear

[lone slate]

Has anyone had any luck with their server being more stable yet?

[tawdry rain]

We have 22 mods, after testing, shiny is the only one that is breaking

[indigo bay]

wth

is your server working joe

[timber stirrup]

i wonder how this is working out for custom maps.

[dull apex]

So that was an interesting test. I started up Svartalfheim map, no other mods, in a single player game. Went to the trouble spot... no crashes. Gradually added mods. No crashes.

Took the exact same save files and put them on my test server. Same mods, same settings. Went to the trouble spot. Client crash with exception error.

[agile gorge]

I was going to ask if anyone had a solution since my srv doesn't work even though I've done what notrado told me, when entering the srv it takes people out immediately and quite a few mods but nothing, has anyone been able to solve it?

[dull apex]

I don't understand why a map or mod could be "broken" on a server but not in a single player game.

I think I'm going to wipe the server's mods and redownload all of them

[indigo bay]

we tried

same results are gonna happen

[dull apex]

bummer. Still, it's part of the troubleshooting.

Trying to isolate what might be breaking.

[limpid glen]

Anyone’s svartelhiem server causing a crash?

[wise kindle]

Its the game. Not much we can do. Im gonna go play the Conan maps and check out the new update. Conan, oddly enough, runs great.

[dull apex]

Yes, trying to troubleshoot.

[tawdry burrow]

yup

[distant hearth]

ive been re running through skyrim lmao .

conan next on my list to check out the newest stuff

[limpid glen]

Ahh so it’s deffo the map that’s causing an issue. If you find a fix please message me

[tawdry burrow]

seems only wildcard can fix it. Nekatus the map modder did tweet about it

[dull apex]

Others are having issues with The Island, so I don't know...

[limpid glen]

My island map runs perfectly fine

[dull apex]

Yeah, it's a whole hodgepodge of mod issues and then possible game issues

[limpid ermine]

is there any Linux support server ?

[wise kindle]

Its werewolf stuff too. Love me some Jabbal Sawg.

[dull apex]

Yep. You were right.

[indigo bay]

sadly

[dull apex]

Blew away the mods on my local install, too, and reinstalled them. No dice.

I always crash at the same coordinates.

[marsh elm]

Still no update ? 🙈

[dull apex]

I guess it's interesting that the crash dialog shows these lines:

0x00007ff6a2214e01 ArkAscended.exe!UNetConnection::ReceivedPacket() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\Engine\Private\NetConnection.cpp:3656]
0x00007ff6a2211c23 ArkAscended.exe!UNetConnection::ReceivedRawPacket() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Source\Runtime\Engine\Private\NetConnection.cpp:1970]
0x00007ff69d418d8d ArkAscended.exe!UIpNetDriver::TickDispatch() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Plugins\Online\OnlineSubsystemUtils\Source\OnlineSubsystemUtils\Private\IpNetDriver.cpp:1332]

Makes me wonder if a non-dedicated server might crash in the same place due to network communication errors (that a single player game does not have)

So for the final test of my "it's the network" theory, I started up my single player game as a non-dedicated server and had a friend join. His crashed at the usual spot on the map. I, as the host, did not crash despite being at the same location.

[distant hearth]

the only thing i see out those lines is it crashed an cant send the report to the drive/location specifed,
likely just becuase they havent bothered changed public crash reports from the internal adress used in testing,
like when dave an his purple rain was to blame

[dull apex]

So there is something different about non-dedicated servers and dedicated servers that causes a client crash at a specific point on the Svart map, but the crash does not happen in single player or to the host of the non-dedicated server.

Something corrupt is getting communicated for some reason.

[deft stone]

in fact those path are the path to the source files (.cpp) and line number

[distant hearth]

im not smart enough to even understand that tbh
its just a weird file path that wudnt be found on a local machine

[deft stone]

it just tel the original source files are on c:\ ... 😉

[long zenith]

How do i copy every setting and rates i use + my save game to the dedicated server?

[distant hearth]

google best bet as u will need to rename the .arklocalprofile to use it on a server

[deft stone]

ill discribe one line for you
0x00007ff69d418d8d ArkAscended.exe!UIpNetDriver::TickDispatch() [C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Plugins\Online\OnlineSubsystemUtils\Source\OnlineSubsystemUtils\Private\IpNetDriver.cpp:1332]
0x00007ff69d418d8d memory addresse
ArkAscended.exe (Executable name)
UIpNetDriver (Object name)
::TickDispatch() (Method call)
[C:\j\workspace\RelA\Engine\Plugins\Online\OnlineSubsystemUtils\Source\OnlineSubsystemUtils\Private\IpNetDriver.cpp:1332] (source path/filename : (line number)

most of the time, without the sources, it means nearly nothing

[amber veldt]

So what’s the reasoning of not showing prev server versions ?I turn off updates and not restart server so I don’t have any of these issues wildcard hides old server versions that are not latest. Now my servers don’t show up at all 🙃🫠

[distant hearth]

client and server need to match major version number, i.e v36.xx
no idea why but that how it is

[amber veldt]

They are trying to get people to quit playing seriously one dumb mistake after another

[celest halo]

Normally major version number changes include incompatiblys for lower versions

[cyan cloak]

What you guys thinking we will be able to play tonight?

[wise kindle]

Not likely

[charred lily]

I don’t think so ^^

[distant hearth]

magic 9ball says, probably not very likely ,maybe ,outlook is poor

[odd folio]

At my Server, on one Server 5 players are playing and other guys cant playing, why?

[long zenith]

Can someone help me with setting up the rates and the difficulty on my dedicated?

[dull apex]

Why can they not play?

[dull apex]

I just started a single player game, chose a difficulty level, then copied the settings from the single player game to my server :)

[long zenith]

how?

[odd folio]

I dont know, tbe other guys has a bluescreen in sekond

[long zenith]

i have every setting on my SP server ready

[dull apex]

Many people have this problem. Are you able to log in and use admin commands to teleport them or kill them?

The issue only happens in some places on a map

[odd folio]

@dull apex i dont have the impl. Nr.

[dull apex]

You should be able to see those is you cheat ListPlayers, I think

[odd folio]

I can Look, ty. But wildcard must fix the Problem Not in one week

[long zenith]

@dull apex How do i copy my sp settings over to my dedicated? ^^,

[dull apex]

Open Steam, go to your library, click the little gear icon and choose to browse local files. From there, you have to go to ShooterGame\Saved\Config. The two files you need are Game.ini and GameUserSettings.ini

Sorry, ShooterGame\Saved\Config\Windows

[long zenith]

yeah

so i copy these two and put it in the same folder as my dedi?

[dull apex]

I don't know how you have your dedicated server set up, but you need to go to ShooterGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer and copy them there. I suggest editing them, though, to remove one setting (looking it up)

In Game.ini, bUseSingleplayerSettings=True and you want that to be False for a server

[long zenith]

yeah its on false

[dull apex]

Great!

[long zenith]

So basically, the dino max level will be 150 as its set the same on my sp and everything? Aswell i guess its auto save on its own?

[dull apex]

There may be better ways to set up a server, but that way worked for me and was easy :)

[dull apex]

Servers auto save on their own, yes, but you will want to make a backup at least once a week.

I found it makes the game so ridiculously easy because single player games are one person tribes. The game tries to help by speeding up certain rates.

For instance, meat spoils incredibly fast so you can have enough to make narcotics, but it's really inconvenient if all your meat is spoiling before you can do anything with it.

[long zenith]

It worked i think. Another question:

I forgot what i was gonna ask while typing it.. give me a min to remember

[dull apex]

I definitely changed the spoil rate manually because prime meat lasting 4 minutes was a bit much

[long zenith]

I think its working perfectly as far as i can see. I see there is alot of level 5-50, and a few high levels so i guess it maybe working?

[cyan cloak]

Are servers up?

[stray tangle]

Wtf?? Game is still showing the love evolved screen while loading in & then it crashes?!? wtf do I do???

[stray tangle]

I’m freaking out

[long zenith]

the reason i wanted my dedi on my pc is just so everything still runs while im not on, so i got a reason to farm food and let it run out and stuff, makes it more fun for me

[distant hearth]

most people just stack it on unoficial tbh

[stray tangle]

wtf why can’t I get into my game?? I pay for this piece of shit server?!?

[molten glacier]

not rly the fault of the server

[distant hearth]

you do an yes if you have mods its broken

remove all mods an you shud be fine, unless its corrupted the save files , then you go t fix that

[wise kindle]

Its not Nitrado this time lol. Its the broken ass game lol.

[distant hearth]

i kinda feel wrong sticky up for nitrado but for once, there cant do shit

this all on the company that has acess to ptr servers an cud let beta builds out , but doesnt

well i guess alpha since builds game is beta

[sage surge]

I thought they were doing beta builds..

[distant hearth]

they did it once , maybe twice?

[sage surge]

I guess this is what they get for making a ton of changes at once without doing a beta...

[distant hearth]

how hard wud it be to spin up a test server with 20 of the most popular mods before public release a major ver update?

hmmmmm ... hell they cud done it on one there work pc instead watching what ever there into atm

[molten glacier]

thing is even with 0 Mods the game crashes because the update messed up save files ^^

[distant hearth]

yep asa likes to corupt files for fun , however the major issue atm is broken update , that was semi reverted, broke alot mods again

corrupt files easy fix, broken mods whist wait on devs to work out... nothing can do

[molten glacier]

btw Devkit broken also so Mods cant even be fixed ^^

[distant hearth]

all the mod discords im in say its not the mod at fault but summit wc end...

so even if devkit worked

[molten glacier]

WC at its fines again today 🙂

now imagen what happen when they release SE xD

[distant hearth]

hmm, we will seee, there prerquestite was this major update opened the door for s.e an wud make that simple easy update lolz....

[long zenith]

how can i get my character from SP to my dedicated tho?

[molten glacier]

ASE every DLC just broke the game ^^

[distant hearth]

u need your eos id number, then just rename the .localarkproflile on the server to .arkprofile irrc

look up a guide for ase, its same for asa just use eos id instead steam id

[long zenith]

how do i find my eos id number?

[olive talon]

https://support.survivetheark.com/hc/en-us/articles/18746173757975-What-is-an-Account-ID

[hazy silo]

WC broke it so they can release SE

[olive talon]

A lot of servers are having issues. They're working on it.

[hazy silo]

oh i bet 🤣

[compact goblet]

is there a way to disable dino stasis on a server?

My server just has me and my friend so most the the map is always in stasis and wed prefer to use an insane amount of server memory to keep every area on the map active

[distant hearth]

servers dont use a stasis so no need to disable

[cyan cloak]

Please tell me we have good news?

[hazy silo]

good day 🙂

[compact goblet]

if no one is online doesnt that region of the map go into stasis?

[cyan cloak]

Bruh can we play unoffical yet?

[hazy silo]

our maps work, svart doesn't

[compact goblet]

like if I tranq a dino and then leave that area no wild dinos will be active to eat it. but if I stay and wait, a dilo or something will eat it. Feels really cheesy

[stiff tulip]

it does use some sort of stasis mechanic, and I don't know how to disable it. sorry.

[distant hearth]

hmm i guess in that sense yea , i was thinking u meant like singleplayer where it just dont spawn nowt.

im not sure how it works, ive left dinos before an they get eaten, other times not ...

i suspect they lower the dino agro range when a player isnt near

[pure haven]

It depend on render distance as far as i know

When no one in render distance then stasis kicks in

[stiff tulip]

makes sense.

[pure haven]

So maybe you can do something by manipulating render distance

But i have no idea how to do that

[limpid glen]

I know they did but releasing a map shouldn’t affect a mod map they have nothing to do with but they broke it anyway

[distant hearth]

that wasnt the post as such, it was having the dinos on wandering.
its almost a glitch , tamed dinos on wander just go about there buisness, pen them in an does same.
the hitch post just kept them in one spot

[iron marsh]

Anyone have any experience with this error?
ERROR!!! FAtlasSaveManager::LoadOperationSql: SQL database is corrupt and the save game is compromised! Exiting...

Got it after the recent update

[stiff tulip]

so svart is "mostly" working for me (running a dedicated server), but it did crash in one area and I had to restore from a recent backup to get it back up. so it's def not 100%, but it is somewhat playable.

[wise kindle]

SQL Corruption error fix

If your server is in a boot loop and you have a .ark-journal file or your logs show ERROR!!! FAtlasSaveManager::LoadOperationSql: SQL database is corrupt and the save game is compromised! Exiting... shut down the server and follow these directions:
1: Go to sqlite.org and download sqlite-tools-win-x64-3440200.zip. If the numbers before .zip are different, that's ok.
2: Make a new folder, unzip the file to that folder.
3: Download your .ark and .ark-journal from the server, put them in the same folder as the sqlite3.exe file.
4: Back up the .ark and .ark-journal files to a temporary folder.
5: Open a command prompt and navigate to the folder the .ark is located in.
6: Run sqlite3 Svartalfheim_WP.ark vacuum or sqlite3 TheIsland_WP.ark vacuum depending on the map you're using.
7: Delete the .ark and .ark-journal files from the server, upload the .ark file from your local folder. This may be the same size as the file you just deleted, that's ok.
8: Test your server, if it's not fixed, restore the backups you made in step 4 to your server.

[distant hearth]

the post did not, it was the fact you set them to wandering , hitch a dino an put it on mating, it will only breed when ure in render

[blazing lichen]

so the crashing is it when people join or is the servers themselves crashing casue my friend on ps5 was able to join a unofficial with no issues

[distant hearth]

test it an see 🙂

[stiff tulip]

it's kind of both... if you don't put your dino's on wander, while hitched, they'll stop mating when out of render. stasis or no. but they will earn levels like they're not in stasis.

[distant hearth]

then i apologise, it only works for me if dinos are wandering , can achieve same thing in asa(probably ase) by penning dino with pillars an seting wander.The horizontal pillars made it easy to make simple pens

[stiff tulip]

not for me. I had to enable wander to get them working. but it was back in january, I haven't done much breeding since then.

[distant hearth]

in ase i cud set dinos to mating, hitch them , they dont breed off line, only when set to wander

[stiff tulip]

the biggest issue I had with the breeding is that even when hitched the ovaraptors didn't pick up eggs, even tho the dino's were spitting them out. so I'd come back to base and have a crap ton of babies making a mess of things. edit in asa

[distant hearth]

thats what dino storage v2 was for, auto pickup babys an disable wander once full 😛

[stiff tulip]

yah sorry, I was refering to ASA not ASE. I might have misunderstood the original question.

[distant hearth]

iirc krakens better dino mod had them pickup, half the dino qol in asa comes from kraken i swear

[stiff tulip]

in ASE, I just used mating and dino storage to do the bit for me. I don't recall if I had to enable wander or not.

[distant hearth]

it says disable mating but disable the wander

prob

i havent played ase in about a year now tbh

[late estuary]

So sounds like mod authors have to re-cook yet again

[stiff tulip]

QOL+ has a hitching post that works nicely. and the cryopod mod (can't remember exactly but the creator starts with a "P"), picks up well too. it's a decent replacement.

[cyan cloak]

Did you see the annoucement does that mean things are going to be fixed now?

[distant hearth]

we use super cryo storage, basically a rip of dino storage v.2

[wise kindle]

What?

[cyan cloak]

Check DM's

[distant hearth]

havent tried that, the one i mention is identical to dino v2 but also adds an annoying hologram image of dino to the pod when held in hamd

even down to the ini settings

[wise kindle]

Theres no fix for the SQL error other than the one I just posted as far as I'm aware. They arent trying to fix that. Its an old issue thats been around since release.

[cyan cloak]

So were still fucked?

[wise kindle]

The fix I just posted has nothing to do with the issues you are seeing.

[cyan cloak]

What about the post I sent to your DM

[wise kindle]

This is why I tagged his question, which the SQL error, giving him the fix to the SQL error lol.

[wise kindle]

What is the post? I see no announcements from WC. This is a WC issue. We need a fix from WC not modders.

[distant hearth]

i actually thought that error was long gone, i guess they broke something there again lolz

[wise kindle]

yeah I got it last week. I'm still sad lol.

[distant hearth]

atleast there is a fix, unlike atm of wait an see

[wise kindle]

yeah at least theres that. It is less frequent tho, so I think they did do something. They just didnt fix it fully which kinda sucks.

[cyan cloak]

Look in here #modding-announcements

[wise kindle]

I see no announcements from WC. This is a WC issue. We need a fix from WC not modders.
We need a fix for the game.

[cyan cloak]

Did you read it they said they are looking for a base game fix

[distant hearth]

it basically says , we dont know why it broke, u can try this reccok an hope it works

[wise kindle]

Its stuff we knew about and we knew they knew lol

[distant hearth]

its gonna be the same shit every major update, always was in ase, leopards arent good at chamging there spots

[wise kindle]

Its sucks too. I cant add the nice mods. I have to stick to the super safe ones to keep running and stable. Its really limiting.

[distant hearth]

want a smooth running server, not happening, want less isuees, dont run mods...
want a headache, run 10 plus mods

is what is , im not even playing asa for last month or more an it annoy me.
i dont understand what is so hard about using test servers whn they cost next to nothing to spin a couple small ones up

[wise kindle]

This ^^

Running a closed TR to test these things isnt difficult. Heck a PTR isnt difficult either imo. Just do something WC, geez.

[distant hearth]

tbh half the unofficial non nitrado community , wud happily fire one up an put a test build on it
prob quarter the nitrado users wud too if they have mutiple maps

[wise kindle]

Pay for a map for me. I'd file all the best bugs and test so much common crap. Cuz I wouldnt even have to go into the corner cases. Its the common mods and configs that seems to tank the game.
Id work for cheap too, cuz I love the game.

Lmao, I'mma go get lunch and play Conan.

[distant hearth]

enjoy, im off bed, work early tomoz

[wise kindle]

night night

[slim mortar]

Is it fixed yet

[waxen robin]

no.

[sweet imp]

Anyone tried rolling to a…say Saturday save?

[waxen robin]

the saves arent the issue XD

[indigo bay]

We rolled back and wiped are server

[waxen robin]

its a waiting game until ark fixes it.

[humble thicket]

Still no news about the client issues? Whyyyy

[waxen robin]

its server issues lol.

the servers turn off/crash like 10 seconds after starting up on their own.

[wise kindle]

Its game issues really. Without a proper fix, its just a waste of your time.

[lucid igloo]

I’m guessing I’m going have to completely wipe my server start all over again

[humble thicket]

Not mind at least lol my servers are stable and fixed now but the players keeps crashing whenever they join it's some of the mods causing it according to the devs and are waiting on WC to send out an updated Dev kit for them to fix it but it's frustrating that mod devs are updating time to time but the game dev themselves aren't giving any updates at all

[lucid igloo]

They need to give us a update already

[humble thicket]

Exactly it's been almost 24 hours since the last update "fixed SOME crashes" lol

[native stag]

so guyz has anyone find a solution even temporary to solve this mess ?

[lucid igloo]

Nope I’ve tryed everything on my end to remove mods re add them still same issue

[snow sable]

Is it normal to have level 936 dinosaurs running around

[lunar cloud]

my server has been running sweet. But i dont do mods , not even official ones. This is a pre-alpha early access game. I will give it a few years before i look at any mods

[molten glacier]

that sound boring as hell ^^

[gloomy trellis]

are you nitrado or dedi?

[stiff tulip]

I have a dedi running svart prem, and if I stay on the beach it runs fine. I'm running 13 mods, I'm "guessing" that is the s-variants mod that's causing the crashes when I leave the beach. it's just a guess tho. all the other mods are stuff you'd find in my base, and my base & beach are running fine.

[lunar cloud]

I run my own hardware, just a small cloud virtual machine and bootstrap everything myself there

[stiff tulip]

I should look into cloud solution someday. I just run my dedi on an old laptop. 🙂

[slim mortar]

So if I wipe my server can I still play with mods

[stiff tulip]

prob not. least that seems to be the consensus.

[lunar cloud]

I would do whatever saves you money to be honest. a laptop \ old hardware, or cloud machine is fine. Ark server runs pretty well with a basic 8GB and 4 core VM, I turn on virtual memory to additional 65GB. The Disk IO vram adds is negligible in terms of performance as ark does not do high memory I/O so its all good. For running just a server for a few mates 5-8 people, it runs very well.

If you setup a cronjob script, you can run RCON to save your server every few hours and zip up the saved .ark files and use something like s3cmd to push your backups off site. So then you can run really anywhere and always have restore points. Move between laptops etc 🙂

[stiff tulip]

nice.

there's only 3 of us so I haven't really needed to look into more advanced stuff.

and honestly, 99.9% its just me. 🙂

[lunar cloud]

ah thats great then. If its just 3 of you I would not invest in any more compute. 4core, 8physical ram and pump vram is perfect.
2 cores is pushing it a bit 😄 , but no need to spend too much on hardware if its just 3 people on
Hardware really becomes a thing when you start going 20 players +

[stiff tulip]

good to know. 🙂

[lunar cloud]

on ASE I used the exact same machine to run 4 maps at once. If you and mates mainly log into 1 (which ever the "hype" map is) , the other maps as idle only sit there with about 8GB Vram in use and as the server does not load in all maps if people are offline, the CPU is also pretty much idle.
So you can get away with running a cluster too without adding more physical machines

Ive been stress testing this heavily on ASA running multimaps in preparation for adding scorched to my cluster. So far the ASA process uses much less memory than ASE

[crystal saddle]

Anyone have any suggestions on whether I should invest into an ase server or asa server?

I play both atm.

I am just not sure which one would be more worthit player number wise

Given that ASA is struggling rn due to patches and updates. Per normal.

Okay good to know. Thank you.

[untold turtle]

Did anyone else's latest update bring back the love bugs? I removed the mod entirely but I guess implementing the holiday items brought them back 😂

[stiff tulip]

I had something odd like that. I made the mod active for a short time to quickly spawn in some items, then moved the mod back to passive. but evidently that was long enough for those little bastard bugs to spawn and wrek a few of my dino's. a wild dino wipe fixed it for me. but in fairness, I was just setting up a new svart run and had only "just" gotten started, so it wasn't a huge loss to wipe the dino's.

[knotty stirrup]

Anyone able to help me with 50x settings

[lunar cloud]

I hop between digital ocean and Linode depends who gives the better price.
You'd had to check each provider and their VM SKU to see whether they are dedicated \ shared CPU cores. Generally they are dedicated virtual cores

[untold turtle]

I may have to put it back as a passive then and implement the rollback with a dino wipe. I thought it was funny to see those monsters pop back up lol

[stiff tulip]

if they showed up after the LE assets were added to the core. there's a decent chance that all the bugs weren't killed off after you removed the mod, or maybe you moved it to passive. IDK. timing would be the key there. either way, all you should have to do is wild dino wipe if you want them gone. you dont' need the mod active or passive to do that.

[lapis peak]

Any updates on home unofficial hosted servers ? Are they working now ?

[stiff tulip]

I've not seen any on svart since the patch. but in fairness, I only have free reign over the beach area's. every time I venture inland I crash at random times. I think it's the s-dino mod, but it's only a guess.

[sweet imp]

My friends unofficial pops up now and works fine. We have the same mods. wtf

[stiff tulip]

it's speculative, but for pc's and homebrew dedi's, I think the mods are the problem, not the server/client. but I don't have proof of that. Svart is working ok for me on the beach area like I've said. but I have 12 other mods on this run and I haven't gotten around to testing them to see if or which is the problem yet.

[lunar cloud]

ah , i have not checked. I run all my servers on linux. ASA runs well on proton , so i run them using linux containers

[untold turtle]

I have done three dino wipes since making it passive when the event ended. Yesterday I removed it totally but I think with them having to rollback something went wonky cuz the game modlist itself will not uninstall the mod. I tried to uninstall it after removing from the .ini when they said they implemented the stuff in game. But with the rollback I wonder if the mod thinks it's active again despite not being present in the .ini so I'm just gonna make it a passive again and wait to see what they do with the big patch fixes.

[stiff tulip]

fair

[cyan cloak]

Any news on fix's?

[lucid solstice]

For running a server? Linux is by far better

[slim mortar]

So what mods don't work

[icy stone]

Do I have to use the r. Command every time to disable clouds and fog or is there an ini code I can put in that disables it for good?

[slim mortar]

So my partner just wiped our server and we play with mods and now it's working

[deft stone]

any news on the update on the dev kit?

[slim mortar]

Only mod not working is the shiny Dino's mod

[deft stone]

i read they release a new version couple minutes ago

[slim mortar]

Server owners will need to wipe BC Ur files are corrupted

[deft stone]

Zen Rowe — Today at 5:35 PM
@ASA Mods The Cloud Cooking tools have been updated to 36.4.82.484455
We understand a number of mods are experiencing crashes right now and we are investigating so see what we can solve from the base game, but in the meantime any mods affected by new crashes since the the update to version 36 can try recooking with the new cloud cooking tools to see if that resolves the crashing for your project.

I am still investigating some lingering issues with the DevKit before pushing it to Main but that shouldn't have any bearing on recooking mods against the new cloud cooking tools

[lapis peak]

are you using a home dedicated server ?

[slim mortar]

Nitrado

[lost gust]

The mod works.
It's certain structures within the mod causing the issues.

Try and place a Klinger forge or a light and if you don't crash I'll be amazed.

[lapis peak]

any solutions for steamcmd dedicated servers ?

[dull apex]

Even if I remove all mods except the Svart map, I crash in random places, so it's not just you.

[slim mortar]

We are just not using the forge

[stiff tulip]

yah, I just figured that out myself I think. was gonna do some iterative testing, but I think Nekatus is right, it's just broke for a while.

[deft stone]

wait the cloud cooking tools have just release, if moders recook their mods there is a chance it will work again

[lost gust]

Yea so what your doing is correct but server owners can't just wipe a server for this issue each time....

[lapis peak]

how do I wipe the server ?

[deft stone]

delete everything into the folders... not a good idea wait a least till tomorow

[slim mortar]

The files are corrupted so no matter what U will have to wipe

[lapis peak]

any way to save the progress ?

[deft stone]

files are not corupted, mods are not working corectly, if the mods are updated there is a chance it work again

[lapis peak]

I dont use mods on the server

[slim mortar]

Ours works and we had to wipe now ours runs fine with no problem so it's a file problem

[lost gust]

Not corrupted.
I can take my world into singleplayer without the mods and active and it will load perfectly fine...

[deft stone]

yes beause it remove the mods data from the savegame...

[slim mortar]

I think I know what my server says when we tried

[tawdry rain]

On everything, I'm moving my community if we have to wipe again. That's crazy

[slim mortar]

And it will work on singleplayer BC it's a non dedicated

Where ours is nitrado and runs fine

[lost gust]

False.

If I load a singleplayer world and try and place the items from Klinger causing the crashes.
It still crashes.
I've spent over 5 hours testing.....

[deft stone]

just wait for the mods update if you wipe now you loose everything there is a chance those mode are going to work afther the updates...

they relaese the new version of the devkit at 5pm ...

[olive pecan]

guys

can I remove love ascended as passive mod?

im outdate about path notes 😦

[olive talon]

Yes

[robust bough]

Any temp fix’s for crashing only a few people can get on the server with out instantly crashing

[delicate tide]

5pm where? Cause it’s definitely past that time where I am

[slim mortar]

And I'm playing on a running server with players 🫢

[robust bough]

You did not do the update same as me and few others we can still play as did not have the update pushed automatically

[slim mortar]

We did have the update

[robust bough]

Yh my server was updated but my console was not

I did not play when the update first dropped

[slim mortar]

Yh so how is my server running with Xbox,ps5 and pc players all on it when we had update

[lucid igloo]

They need to fix two mods project zodiac and dragconic chronicles mods on nitrado I been weeding out what works not works

[stray tangle]

Every time I attempt to join our Nitrado server the love evolved screen comes up & then the game crashes! Is there any fixes or have I thrown away 700 hours of my life??

[lucid igloo]

I been going through my mods on my nitrado only got 4 don’t work for shit

[jolly dove]

@empty urchin How did you get custom player levels on your server? Mine aren't working (same copied from our ASE servers). Did something change on it?

Appreciate any help on this as I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure it out!

[deft stone]

yippie! 😄

the patch!

[steady kettle]

Just restart my nitrado server and it should adopt the newest patch, right?

[slim mortar]

Do we still have to wait for the mods

[deft stone]

maybe not

[wicked vigil]

Just checking in since yesterday. Servers all still broken?

[lean bridge]

They've pushed some xbox patches. Nothing for ps5 yet 😦

[slim mortar]

What should the update number be

[lean bridge]

36.12 I think

[hearty olive]

just updated my server still getting fatal error

[slim mortar]

My partner's is 36.7 on ps5 but my Xbox is 36.4

[lean bridge]

I'm on 36.7 in my ps5 too

[sharp summit]

the modders will also need to apply the fix on their end most likely before it's fixed

[hearty olive]

Shouldn't be on the modders to fix WC code. If an update breaks everything it's an issue with the repository

Most of the errors in the crash log appear to be UE5 assets anyway

[haughty badger]

Still crashing when it gets to shiny dinos even after the 36.12 update 😞

[deft stone]

of they change the mod api, yes it will be on moders side to update their modes with the new dev kit...

[hearty olive]

That should be part of QA from what I understand they haven’t even released the dev kit yet

[celest halo]

they have released 3 version of it in the past 2 days

[sage surge]

Anyone have a luck with v36.12? nvm 🤪

[woven linden]

Same crash as before with v36.12, though it does seem like I was able to get further in for the player spawn before it crashed.

[sage surge]

My servers still don't even start if they have the Shiny! Dinos mod running.

[cyan cloak]

Hey is the game fixed yet?

[sage surge]

🤣

It was broken in 2015, still broken now...

[cyan cloak]

Okay well is it playable

[woven linden]

We don't have Shny Dinos so ours must be another mod. 😦

[sage surge]

I know some people were saying one of the Klinger mods, but the one I have doesn't seem to be the issue so not sure which one.

[woven linden]

Ah, that we do have.

[cyan cloak]

So….. where we at then?

[sage surge]

Still broken. My servers don't even start right now unless I remove a mod (Shiny! Dinos) that my community has decided we would rather wait for a fix.

[cyan cloak]

What is shinny Dino’s?

[sage surge]

a mod that adds new dino spawns with a buff that gives them a variety of different effects.

https:// www.curseforge.com/ ark-survival-ascended/mods/shiny-ascended

[woven linden]

The Klinger one we have is Rustic Structures or something like that.

[sharp summit]

what we've found so far is any mod with lighting will cause a crash

[sage surge]

It might be that one. The one we are using is Klinger Additional Structures.

[sharp summit]

if you use the parts of rustic structures with no lighting, you won't crash

[white heart]

Try to join youre server with a new acc its works for me

[sharp summit]

if you place forge, lights, etc. it'll break

[sage surge]

That doesn't explain why Shiny! Dinos is breaking things. Unless it's the Shiny! buff that adds the glowing orbs that float around the dino that are the issue.

[sharp summit]

taht's what the issue is, not the actual dino stat modifier

[sage surge]

Interesting. I wonder what will happen if I disable their spawn and turn off the orbs for tamed shinys.

[sharp summit]

should be fine

turning off orbs alone should fix it, if possible to do

my understanding is WC are currently looking into the issues with the changes they've made to shaders

[sage surge]

The orbs always appear on the wild ones. That's why I mentioned disabling their spawns.

[sharp summit]

yes, if you disabled their spawns and wiped all wild dinos at server level, could well fix it

[sage surge]

Going to give that a go now.

[woven linden]

Ah, and I can't even stay in the game long enough to remove lighted objects, so it'll have to wait until the mod dev updates or WC fixes it then. Thank you for the info. Heck I don't even remember what I used from that mod. My daughter did a bunch of the building of our base. LOL Though we did limit it as we've seen what can happen when mods have issues, so we only use it for mainly decorations around the base.

[sage surge]

Yeah I can't get the server to stay up long enough to do a wilddinowipe.

[gloomy trellis]

It has to be more than just the lighting. Cause I do not have but 2 mods both plugin mods. nothings dinos related or what not.

they only way I can get the server to start and connect without crashing.... is to disable the api

[sage surge]

What API version you running? And have you checked for plugin updates?

[gloomy trellis]

So it is def more than meets the eye.

[sage surge]

Lethal had to recompile a few of his plugins if those are the ones you are using.

[gloomy trellis]

good info... i completely missed decay

[sharp summit]

do any of those mods have on/off switches on items? this is also a potential cause but haven't yet been able to confirm that

[sage surge]

on/off switches?

[sharp summit]

workbenches, etc

[sage surge]

Oh, like the fab and chem bench? Powered crafting stations?

[sharp summit]

yes

we suspect this is another issue along with lighting but can't fully confirm

[sage surge]

Interesting. I wish WildCard would share more. They have been quiet all day.

[cyan cloak]

What is the patch they just put out?

[sage surge]

v36.12

[gloomy trellis]

That was the issue for me on the dedi servers. Thanks. I still have some nitrado servers with mods, but I do not believe there are any lighting ones. I will test that now too.

[sage surge]

The server won't stay up long enough for me to send an RCON destroywilddinos. I also tried adding -ForceRespawnDinos but I don't think it every worked right in ASE. So RIP. Just going to have to wait for WildCard to fix or hopefully maybe the Shiny! Dino dev could disable the orbs on her end.

🤷‍♂️

I'm off to bed. Hopefully WildCard will find a solution soon.

[late estuary]

Anyone having better luck with 36.12?

[waxen robin]

forcerespawn doesnt fix it either

[sly iron]

nope

[stiff tulip]

are ya'll testing on the island?

[wise kindle]

Im curious too. Is that a no it doesnt work to stop the dc on login? Or no it doesnt work to stop maps from looping?

This is the problem when there are multiple issues 😂

[west plinth]

I cleared the player data and was able to log into the island but after moving around the map I crashed and wasn't able to join back without crashing.

[waxen robin]

36.12 doesnt stop the instant crash on server load

[spice vector]

What about 36.13

[waxen robin]

seeing as its targeting a completely random issue, i doubt it but ill try

[rigid oak]

oh god people hold on tight client update just droped

[waxen robin]

has not fixed the issues.

[broken halo]

its not random it cant be seeing they crashed the dev kit as well its a value they changed that doesnt seem to be reverting back with the roll backs

[waxen robin]

36.13 has not fixed the issue.

36.13 is a client update anyways.

[broken halo]

i believe its a client side issue my servers are running fine

just cant log into em

[waxen robin]

is your server running with out mods?

[broken halo]

with

[waxen robin]

and did you wipe after the issues started?

[broken halo]

no just restarted updated and validated

[waxen robin]

assuming youre not using serverapi/plugins aswell then

[broken halo]

ive had a few members on both days playing when most of us crash on launch including myself and im in the same room as the equipment

actually i am useing plugins through gsm

[smoky aspen]

so unofficial servers still messed up i still cant log on

[waxen robin]

yes

[smoky aspen]

sigh 😦

[broken halo]

wish i was smarter about all this to be more help but ive only been learning self hosting the last 4 months

[dense finch]

Does the ASA code of conduct apply to unofficial servers?

[steady kettle]

My server is working now. Try to update your server and exit and download the latest ARK update also.,

[woven linden]

Works on the steam PC version now.

It's a client fix so Xbox might have to wait. ☹️

[white heart]

No crashes more ?

[steady kettle]

Not for me. And it been crashing all day

[white heart]

Did you remove mods or just did the update

[hollow hemlock]

unfortunately still crashes on startup with Shiny Dinos, but seems hopeful now that once the Shiny patch finally makes it through review that the client side crashes from other mods might also be gone. we don't wanna remove Shiny Dinos but also didn't wanna do it if still meant the servers were unplayable due to client crashes lol

[woven linden]

We didn't remove any mods. Though pretty much everyone else is Xbox and I am not sure they have an update yet.

That said I am not using all of the mods we have installed on our server so there could still be issues with one of them.

I did remove all the custom cosmetic mods earlier today, but that didn't help. I was only able to join after the Steam v36.13 client update.

[white heart]

That is good right
The update works for pc

[woven linden]

So far for me and the mods I used around my base, yes. I didn't fly around the map as I hadn't planned on playing tonight, but wanted to let the folks know on our server that progress seems to be being made. There could be other issues that haven't been discovered yet.

[broken halo]

For PC great news as for us salty console players not so great lol

[woven linden]

Yeah, probably has to go through cert first. Wish I had better news there. I play on both, was mainly xbox before.

[broken halo]

No your 100 right it's a start and now we pretty much know it was a client side issue more than a mod and server issue but it's not over yet so I may still be wrong

[west plinth]

Nice , progress is better than nothing

[woven linden]

So far as I've read it's due to changes they made to the shaders, and it seemed to impact lighting the most.

[broken halo]

Yeah I was reading that too it seemed like a similar issue PC had at launch

I've found more nitrado servers are up and running than self hosted not sure if it's just coincidence 🤔

[unborn jetty]

can anyone tell me if its possible to update your server while its running? instead of between a restart?

[smoky pecan]

To whom it may concern regarding Unofficial servers that run, but cause client crashes when joining. I MAY have found a fix. It worked for me on my server. @lost gust This includes you, as I know you have had some previous issues.

I, on my active server, shut it down entirely, waited a couple of minutes, then using an FTP client, such as Filezilla, FTP'd into the server files, browsed over to /Saved/SavedArks/TheIsland_WP, and looked for my .arkprofile & .profilebak files and deleted both of them (after backing them up of course). Then waited a few minutes, and started my server. The game gave me the ability to go ahead and make a new survivor and I logged on to the server. I have not removed any mods that might be causing issues. I still have QoL+, Dino+, Klingers mods (all of them), I do not have Shiny! installed though. Never have. This mod is known to cause server issues, I'm not sure of client issues though.

If you are having client crashing issues, and have access to the server files via FTP, I recommend giving this an attempt. You will need to cheat ForceJoinTribe & cheat MakeTribeFounder if needed, but at least you may actually be able to the play the game. Best of Luck survivors!

[smoky pecan]

Nope

[lost gust]

The latest wildcard patches have resolved my issues for my server 🙂
Waiting on the patch to hit for my console players but I appreciate the thought

[smoky pecan]

I thankfully found this fix. Cause I tried to log in post patch, but no luck. Tried SP post patch, no luck. Even deleting mods in question. Said screw it and did the above method and low and behold, Im in game and happy as can be.

[west plinth]

Are you on steam?

[smoky pecan]

Yessir

[placid night]

I deleted my single player and still had some crashing so removed mods one at a time and reinstalled, none were causing the crash (might've been after the update though I'm on PS5 and we haven't gotten a patch yet) one server still crashes after 10 seconds but it's not my server so I can't restart it, other server I'm renting from Nitrado works for Steam players but not for console so far.

[fiery anvil]

I got mine up by just slowly introducing it back to the internet 😂

[west plinth]

My servers never crashed it was always the Client side crashing. If I delete the player data I can log in for a little but as soon as I start moving around the map fast it crashes and then continues to , im assuming this will all be resolved as soon as console updates are released

[west plinth]

Your server just shy 🤭

[smoky pecan]

That would mostly likely be the case. Console still on 36.4/8?

[fiery anvil]

It’s up with 40 mods and has a console player on it rn

[west plinth]

I will check here in a second

[smoky pecan]

Cause Steam is on 36.12

[west plinth]

36.13 🙃 lol jk it's still 36.4

So maybe tomorrow we will all be good , also it's kind of nice how wildcards makes these things happen and the community comes together ❤️

It's actually kind of nice

[compact goblet]

hey guys I wanna start getting ready for scorched. would be nice to learn how clusters work before the map comes out, can anyone explain how to make a cluster?

[broken ferry]

anyone know another hard ini after parch

[lunar cloud]

There is a pinned message with link: https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/forums/topic/87419-guide-cluster-setup/

[west plinth]

Are you hosting your own server or using nitrado?

[west plinth]

That's actually really good information

[compact goblet]

thanks

[high forge]

What server version you guys on ? I'm on 36.12 but can't find my servers now.

[lofty owl]

WaZaAaAaAa 😜

we are with version 36.12 Iceland does not work you crash instantly, svartafeilm works quickly but you crash in 2 minutes and have to forglar which seems to work, 30 minutes that I am on it currently

[eternal lance]

ASA still fucked or is it fixed now?

[spice tendon]

Mines still f*d

[rain wolf]

Hi this but you say that it will still take a long time for the update regarding the crash of the Nitrado servers by consoles? My server has been closed for 2 days😭 😭 😭

[smoky pecan]

Whats your issue?

[smoky pecan]

Did you update your servers?

[spice tendon]

Reboot loop on nitrado. Server fully updated. It’s most likely a mod issue but it’s not worth disabling the ones which may be the issue and losing progress

[smoky pecan]

Shiny! mod?

[spice tendon]

Yup. All players on my server would lose any saved essences they extracted and saved raw essence.

[smoky pecan]

3-5 day wait for the patch from the author.

[smoky pecan]

I dont use Shiny, so I wouldn't know this, but is it something that can be restored?

[spice tendon]

The raw essence, yes. The actual shiny creatures that are tamed will revert back once reinstalled but any extracted essence are not spawnable as they are basically procedurally generated.

[lunar oriole]

Does anyone know when the update will be for unofficial servers?

[smoky pecan]

Ah I see. Dependant on server size, you could take a poll on whether or not players would be okay with the trade off. To be able to play, but lose some of the mats, or wait for an update. Leaving the choice to your server community. Thats just me though

[smoky pecan]

Platform?

[lunar oriole]

All platforms

[smoky pecan]

Issue in question? Is it your own unofficial? if so, is it boot looping? Or is the server running, but causing client crashes? Are you asking about playing on steam? xbox? ps?

[lunar oriole]

Server is up and running everything is good on that end it is just straight up crashing

Yes own unofficial server

[smoky pecan]

So the server is not crashing, just the client correct?

[lunar oriole]

That is correct

[smoky pecan]

Okay, one moment

[marsh elm]

I have the same issue only the pc players can get on to play console can’t

[haughty ether]

Same here

[smoky pecan]

@lunar oriole See this message that I replied too. I found a fix that may work for Steam players. Console players will most likely need to wait for a patch. As steam is currently on version 36.12 while consoles are still on 36.4/36.8

[lunar oriole]

Okay thank you

[marsh elm]

So wipe there characters ?

[high forge]

i had password protected servers ticked, opps all sorted 😄

[lunar oriole]

Anytime frame of a potential update/ patch for consoles

[smoky pecan]

It wont wipe them. It just disconnects those characters with issues and allows them to make new surviors. The old survivors will still remain, but as unconsious/sleeping dependent on what they did to log off last

[marsh elm]

Ye I get ye I’ll just wait and see when they give the next update people have imprinted dinos and stuff I don’t feel like spending 3 days changing imprints 🤣

Thanks for the advice it’s always an option

[smoky pecan]

As I am not WIldcard, nor MS/Sony, I can not provide any thing regarding that. There hasn't been any word from WC regarding a patch for consoles AFAIK. Keep an eye on #patch-notes

[smoky pecan]

Let me check something real fast

[lunar oriole]

Thanks for your time

[smoky pecan]

No problem! I don't like to see anyone suffer, so if I can help, I try

[smoky pecan]

Now. I have mods that might effect this, so take this lightly. But I just mounted my Direwolf that my previous survivor imprinted, and I do have the imprint affinity buff active.

[marsh elm]

Right ok it could be linked to the account not character ?

[smoky pecan]

That seems to be the most likely scenario. You could, if you play/own on PC, test it on your own survivor. That is if you have server file access.

[marsh elm]

Yes I own the server I’ll give it today if no results I’ll definitely try

[smoky pecan]

But always always always, back up your files first!

And in order to find what your player data file is, you need to go into singleplayer, run the command whoami and get your EOS ID.

Tis a long string of letters & numbers. That ID is what will be listed in the directory as a .arkprofile & .profilebak file.

It'll look something like this

22000f2b8t6f6gd27aabfaadbf0db958.arkprofile

#patch-notes

[broken halo]

It is linked to online id's not characters

[haughty ether]

Can confirm that is the case, imprints are linked to GT account not character anymore

[haughty ether]

On console if you create a new character on the same account it says it will destroy your current character… I wouldn’t advise this ? Your character may be there asleep… but you won’t be able to access it again.

[smoky pecan]

Well, you wont be able to access it directly. You can still pull your gear from it. And if you backup the .arkprofile file then youll still have it. That and would you rather lose access to a character and make a new one and have an admin just level you to that old characters level...or not be able to play?

[haughty ether]

I am the admin and no I would rather my players waited for the patch then have to do that for 50+ players. We haven’t lost access forever, just need to wait on a patch like steam players just received .
Not sure how you back up the .arkprofile file either on console?
Just wanted to clarify to other console users that your wording was a little misleading.

[smoky pecan]

Because technically, all you should have to do is restore the .arkprofile backup file to the server files, and it should disconnect you from the new survivor and put you back onto the old survivor.

[haughty ether]

“Technically” … I’ll take my chances with the patch thanks lol

[tepid swallow]

I can wait for an answer, but I will post the question here now. Is ECC worth it? Should I get a zen5 ryzen cpu that should support ecc ram? Or does zen 3 ryzens support it like the 5700g?

[smoky pecan]

I explicitly stated you have to be the admin. You have to use FTP to access the server files, this is done from a PC. You have to browse to the directory I stated. You have to take a copy of those .arkprofile files and store them into a backup folder on a PC. I also clarified in following posts that I am on steam. And that I have the latest 36.12 patch on steam. And that consoles will most likely have to wait for a patch for this method to work.

[smoky pecan]

error correction memory? Sure its worth it if you really need the error correction. But most people don't for home use. Dedicated server hardware for a, for example, dedicated ark unofficial, would benefit from ECC.

That and DDR5 is just better overall.

[tepid swallow]

I plan to setup a server cluster and am building a station just for it to host most vanilla worlds as they are released. But finding pieces that fit and learning about ecc kinda got me on a wild goosechase

[smoky pecan]

DDR5 includes ECC on it IIRC.

[haughty ether]

I’ve no qualms with how you do it… I’m sure that will work out for some folks…and I know you’re on steam , not sure why you’re clarifying all that with me. 🤔But anyway, I was pointing out the error when you said it doesn’t “wipe” the character… that to some people could be misleading, that is all. 😊

[smoky pecan]

It doesnt wipe the character

[tepid swallow]

Yeah, ddr5 and zen5 cpu is compatible but ddr5 ram here come in 5000+mhz so i would have to order through amazon rather than my local store to get something below 3000 or find a ddr4 one

[smoky pecan]

The character still exists. It is still accessable. Just not playable. It will be an unconsious. I stated this already.

Restore the .arkprofile file backups, and the server will see the file and try to connect the account with the previous survivor. IE. The one that is having the client crashing issues.

[haughty ether]

I know this. 😂But some players may not . They may think by you saying it’s not wiped that that can come back to using it again.
That’s all. Ok I’m done here lol. Have a great day.

[smoky pecan]

I left nothing as misleading.

[haughty ether]

Server owners with larger communities would be better waiting for the patch than all that carry on

[smoky pecan]

If they wish to wait. Absolutely. I never said it was good for massive servers. I ran some tests on my own server. Its works. I gave the tips to people here. They can test it at their leisure if they wish to do so. Or they can do it for just themselves to at least test if other mods they have are causing issues as well. The method I gave can at least get ADMINS back into their server to test for issues further. Or those admins can chose to spend the time to get their players back into game quicker. It takes 3-5 minutes to backup the .arkprofile files and then delete them. The hardest part would be force joining the tribes.

[jaunty vortex]

I run a dedicated server on a 5700G with 128GB of DDR4 RAM.

You don’t need to go crazy with hardware, it’s mostly RAM intensive.

[tepid swallow]

Yeah, I had this bit saved in my local store with a general computer setup with the ryzen 5700g, but then started to see ECC pop up amongst servers and began looking into those. But the 128gb ram you use is not ecc? Or is that a ryzen 5700g with 128gb ecc ram? Or is it clear that it isnt ecc if not mentioned.

[jaunty vortex]

Just basic Crucual RAM. 4x 32GB sticks of 3200MHz DDR4. The timings aren’t even that great, CL22

[tepid swallow]

Huh, that is actually great to hear. I am happy i looked into ECC but more happy to hear it isnt necessary

[jaunty vortex]

It depends on what you want to spend. You can go AM5, etc but you don’t really need the CPU Horsepower

If you google for CP2K32G4DFRA32A you’ll find what I am using. I have the heat spreader version.

[jaunty vortex]

Allow 8-12GB RAM for each map you want to run.

[sick heron]

Hey any issues with draconic chronicles before I add it to the map?

[stray tangle]

Seriously? It still shows the love evolved screen when loading into our server right before it crashes. Pay all that cash to Nitrado?? Dude is my 700 hours of progress just gone forever???

[west plinth]

Rip

[nocturne citrus]

how do i open the console in the main menu so i can locally connect to my server?

[stiff tulip]

i believe, you have to launch into a SP game, then use the console. I think that's how I had to do it last time I tried.

[golden nest]

You have access to .bak files

Rename the extensions accordingly. Your tribe backup would become .arktribe, your player would be .arkprofile, and your anti corruption would be TheIsland_WP.ark

[deft stone]

you can take a look at the key mapping but by default is Tilde on the keyboard, you can use it at the "PRESS TO START" page

[stray tangle]

Yeah no idea what that means, I’m a console peasant

[golden nest]

That's my bad, I didn't think of looking at your Playstation role before replying... I'm not sure how to help you out there. My only suggestion would be to cheat everything back in that you lost, not much you can do about bred/imprinted dinos however, at least not that I can think of with my current knowledge

[brazen dragon]

Hi all, I hope someone here has a solution for this. I have a server that I run on local pc so that my family can all play together. it worked fine the last time I ran it in November. Now if I start up the server it doesn't show in the server list even with the 'show player servers' ticked. The port forwarding is setup the same as it was before and if I launch ASE servers they work fine, the ports opened are 7777-7816,27015-27054 UDP & TCP. I have also tested by moving my pc to DMZ on my router and disabling the windows firewall. Also the server shows as online on battlemetrics.com and using the open command from there with the public IP we can connect from outside the network. I have done a fresh install of win10 to test on and also installed r2m02.crl as described on the wiki at ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server_setup I am really hoping to get this working so we can transfer to SE and other maps when they arrive. Any help would be appreciated.

[deft stone]

what is the name of your server? Is it running now?

[tawdry rain]

Has there been any news on servers that are stable but keep kicking players on login?

[distant hearth]

@brazen dragon check its running the latest server version, v36.xx

[brazen dragon]

running 36.12

[distant hearth]

with it being an asa server , i wonder if the command line is just setup wrong , its kinda weird it shows in battlemetrics an you can join via ip,
one other thing is to check when searching for it, make sure the top filter is set to all, not pve or pvp,
that the password protected is checked or not as appropiate,
then search the name an hit enter

[deft stone]

i also think it show on the list but is filtered on its client side

[brazen dragon]

the server name is RangerServer2 and showing on battle matrix

[brazen dragon]

I have checked all the filter options and tried them all

[west plinth]

How are you writing your start bat file?

[deft stone]

can you copy your running command please?

remove the password please 😉

[west plinth]

Port=<port>?QueryPort=<query_port>?

We really need to just see this part mostly right @deft stone ?

[brazen dragon]

this is the start cmd, ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName="RangerServer2"?Port=7779?QueryPort=27017 -NoBattlEye -clusterid=RS235698 -ClusterDirOverride="C:\Steam\Steam\steamapps\common\ASAClusterDir"

[distant hearth]

query port not needed, use -port=7779 for asa

[west plinth]

@deft stone I'm no expert but isn't the queryport=27015 needed for steam online?

[deft stone]

and try to put it back on port 7777 just to see

[distant hearth]

start ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName="RangerServer2" -Port=7779 -NoBattlEye -clusterid=RS235698 -ClusterDirOverride="C:\Steam\Steam\steamapps\common\ASAClusterDir"

[silver kayak]

Anyone stiil crash at connection ?? And anything i can do for fix it ??

[west plinth]

Is this your second server ?

[deft stone]

@distant hearth is the pro of the command line 😉

[brazen dragon]

yes, i am trying to get a cluster to work as well in prep for new maps, the other one is RangerServer1 on port 7777

[distant hearth]

its the old ase port for steam yea, as it ran from steam , with asa it uses eos, so only needs a udp port,
thats how i understand it anyway

[brazen dragon]

I am testing that on server 1, lets see

[deft stone]

and im not sure too about 2 port between each instance as ASE. maybe it can work with 7778

[distant hearth]

asa can an will work one port apart, it actually auto assigned alot peoples ports , as they didnt realise it needed -port=xxxx to change them ,
it will just run them in order if not set , 7777, then 7778 next , 7779 etc

you can start an asa server with just start arkascendedserver.exe ,
it will default to port 7777udp and assign it a random name in the gus ini lol

[deft stone]

this is a good change

[brazen dragon]

i did try other ports as well. i have also tried starting a fresh server with no port or session and cant find the auto assigend name either

[deft stone]

so you see Server1 but not Server2 on the list?

[brazen dragon]

from gus
[SessionSettings]
SessionName=RangerServer2

[brazen dragon]

no, i cant see either in the server list. i also cant see the original server config i used originally either

[deft stone]

ho can you verify you firewall, if your DNAT is pointing on the good ip address?

[distant hearth]

rangerserver2 is running on 169.1.16.52:7779

[deft stone]

ho

[brazen dragon]

yes

[deft stone]

hum 169 is normaly a reserved ip adress that windows use if it cant find any adresse... not a valid ip adress...

[distant hearth]

im not in game but hopefully someone can quickly search for it for you, see if issue your side or server side

[brazen dragon]

if someone doesnt mind testing with open 169.1.16.52:7779 from in game to connect to the server

[deft stone]

let me couple ou seconds

but im sure it wont work

weird.........

it work but shouldnt...

[brazen dragon]

it is my public ip as provided by my isp

[distant hearth]

does it show in the listings if searched by name ?

[deft stone]

wow... this is not a valid public ip adresse but ok ...

"An address with 169 in the first octet is an automatic private address. It's not valid outside the local network, so no, it is not a public IP address."

[quiet trellis]

some providers use those as well as 172 which shouldn't be used

[celest halo]

Google says 169.1.16.0/23 is owned by afrinic

[quiet trellis]

It can cause a lot of issues

[deft stone]

absolutly

[jaunty vortex]

I think it’s just 169.254.x.x that is invalid

[deft stone]

its possible but all 169 should not be routable... as 172 ..

[quiet trellis]

Yeah providers use that as a workaround for gnat

[deft stone]

yes but 172 is not all private...

[jaunty vortex]

We’re running out of ipv4 addresses, maybe they released a block?

[quiet trellis]

which is absolute as* if you want to have a dedicated link

[celest halo]

only 169.254. 0.0-169.254. 255.255 is reserved for private not all of 169.

[quiet trellis]

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised

[spring cairn]

Anyone find a way to turn off killed unclaimed baby Dino's from tribe log? It's just spammed with kairuku killing.

[jaunty vortex]

Ipinfo says 169.1.16.x is an African address range, registered in Johannesburg

Seems they have 169.0.0.0-169.1.255.255

[celest halo]

my google search showed me 169.1.16.0/23 is owned by afrinic lmao

[jaunty vortex]

Yes

[brazen dragon]

yup, thats the addresses we have here

[jaunty vortex]

Afrihost Dynamic.

[jaunty vortex]

Afrinic is the registrar, I think?

Anyway, while interesting it’s way off topic and Zone22’s address is valid 😂

[west plinth]

I just enjoy this channel so much lol 😆 😂 🤣

[quiet trellis]

brainstorm here is crazy

[west plinth]

Makes me feel like part of the team lol

[celest halo]

now if we could only get WC to feel more like a part of the team and not keep us in the dark all the time lmao

[distant hearth]

so since we decided it is a public ip, is the op issue solved? seems odd the port is open yet it not in the lists

[west plinth]

So true , just a daily message would go a long way and also maybe worn everyone that an update is coming

[west plinth]

I was having this issue and I added 7777 , 7778 , 27015

[celest halo]

yup and something more then "Fixed a crash" for a patch note, still haven't seen anything more on if unofficial dedicated are fixed

[brazen dragon]

also able to connect from external with the open command, could it still be a port forwarding issue?

[quiet trellis]

2 days and my server still won't boot up lol

[celest halo]

mine is still on v35.16 havent updated yet lol

[west plinth]

27015 stats it's for steam browser only @brazen dragon

[distant hearth]

i dont really see how as the port is open an allowing incoming connections , but im not great with networking so i leave it with the others here

[west plinth]

7777 isn't that the local port? And 7778 is for consoles?

[distant hearth]

no there just udp port numbers, defaults to 7777 for any server started unless told otherwise

[brazen dragon]

i removed that on RangerServer1 and that one still doesnt show. i have tried with and without multiple time

[distant hearth]

some say they have issues using 7777 , i think it depends on the router tbh as mine works fine on it

[native wave]

ASA does not use the steam API so forwarding 27015 is not necessary

[brazen dragon]

it worked fine on 7777 in october and november when we ran it the first time

[west plinth]

@brazen dragon did you read the find my server in list section on the "https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_server_setup"

[celest halo]

They should show in server list, 2 servers show up for your IP when I check the eos api

[brazen dragon]

what is eos api?

[brazen dragon]

this section looks like it is for ase servers using steam browser?

[celest halo]

Epic online services, it what ark uses as network backend

Both servers look new they on day 2

[brazen dragon]

yes, i setup new server instances to test with

[celest halo]

They both show up on the backend so they should show in the server browser (if in game browser is working right)

You have show servers with password uncheck when looking in game

[pseudo glade]

does anyone know if its actually safe to take off the love day mod?

[brazen dragon]

yes, i have tried searching with and without passwords as well as all show player server on and off

[celest halo]

If you believe there patch notes for 36.8 it is

[celest halo]

Hmm I'm not home so can't check in game, has anyone else tried in game to search for them

[brazen dragon]

if you take the mod off it will keep the skins and emotes but remove all the mod items like box chocolate etc.

[west plinth]

What is the server name again?

[celest halo]

RangerServer1

[brazen dragon]

RangerServer1 and RangerServer2

[muted lily]

We just need a console patch like what are they waiting on

[west plinth]

Ranger isn't showing any on the list

[celest halo]

thats the odd part, because they are registered with EOS i can pull info on them lol ```json
"CUSTOMSERVERNAME_s": "RangerServer1",
"ISPRIVATE_l": 0,
"SERVERPASSWORD_b": "False",
"MATCHTIMEOUT_d": 120.0,
"DAYTIME_s": "2",
"SERVERUSESBATTLEYE_b": "False",
"EOSSERVERPING_l": 81,
"ALLOWDOWNLOADCHARS_l": 1,
"OFFICIALSERVER_s": "0",
"GAMEMODE_s": "TestGameMode_C",
"ADDRESS_s": "REMOVED",
"SEARCHKEYWORDS_s": "Custom",
"__EOS_BLISTENING_b": "True",

nope ASA dont use steams network, it uses EOS (epics)

[west plinth]

Hm , can you show me the code you used?

[celest halo]

sent ya a dm

[west plinth]

Thank you

[deft stone]

another tough on your problem, can you just reboot the rooter, i had a similar problem on my side, like if the connection was stuck on the router.

[brazen dragon]

i have already restarted the router but not joy

[deft stone]

is it possible you have another session name into your config files? Dont know if the config can override the commandline option...

[west plinth]

Doesn't this show the name is valid?

[celest halo]

dont think its a problem on his end, server info is making its way to EOS, the games server list is just not pulling the info from EOS like it should

[deft stone]

ho thats weird

it explain why the server show on battlemetrics

[west plinth]

Maybe add the -publicipforepic= ?

[celest halo]

info from EOS shows right ip

[west plinth]

I have that in my bat start file

[celest halo]

and on 36.12 with full crossplay

"SESSIONNAMEUPPER_s": "RANGERSERVER2 - (V36.12)",
"SERVERPLATFORMTYPE_s": "PC+XSX+WINGDK+PS5",
"MAPNAME_s": "TheIsland_WP",

[deft stone]

how you querry eos?

[brazen dragon]

i have done a test on my side, i installed a free vpn and with connecting to that and starting the servers they are both available and the cross trf works.

[celest halo]

made a python script lmao

[deft stone]

im prety sure it have a link with your public ip, as your vpn hide it

[west plinth]

Yup i see rangerserver1

[celest halo]

in game?

[brazen dragon]

yes

[west plinth]

Yes

I'm joining rn , gonna start grinding

Lol it timed out

[celest halo]

maybe ingame list just takes some time to get info from EOS

[west plinth]

Didn't @brazen dragon say something about using a vpn?

[deft stone]

yes, his vpn hide his public ip address... and now its working

[west plinth]

So a conflict with his external ip is the issue

[deft stone]

i think, maybe, EOS deny to talk back with 169.* ...

[celest halo]

the vpn ip your country or a diff one?

[surreal blade]

I play on a few unofficial servers. In a few, as the game progresses over time, the rubber banding gets worse and worse until unplayable. Has anyone had this problem and identified a fix?

[brazen dragon]

its a free one so connected to india

[celest halo]

hmm wonder if ARK having same issue Palword has with servers from africa not showing in the list half the time

[deft stone]

caused by 2 things, server load, or ping

[west plinth]

Is it hosted by nitrado? And what is the server slot cap?

[deft stone]

probably, this look like a security filter

[surreal blade]

Yes Nitrado. Slot cap set to 100 but never goes over 50 pop.

[west plinth]

So are we thinking maybe the isp is gonna have to be contacted? And see if they are blocking something on that end?

[deft stone]

dont think cause we are able to connect directly (with open) to his server

[celest halo]

nope eos get the info, its ark not getting the info from eos/ not showing it

[deft stone]

I realy think its a security feature somewhere not accepting 169.* as a public ip

on ark list server

[celest halo]

that be stupidy on the person that made it as most 169.* ips are registed as public by the IANA

[west plinth]

I think its a firewall issue

I use the word think very very very strongly lol

[deft stone]

yep, but when i was young... 169 was not routable ...

[west plinth]

Some things the owner can do is contact nitrado and ask for the server to be moved to another cluster , ask and find out how much resources are being allocated to the server , and also keep in mind it could be a limitation of the game

[celest halo]

only 169.254.* is private

[deft stone]

yes, now but alot of people think 169.* is private.

[west plinth]

If this is figured out and im not here plz dm me with the resolution if anyone remembers , very interesting issue

[celest halo]

yup its like the 100.* range lol

[deft stone]

wich one?

[west plinth]

@brazen dragon server not showing up on list without the VPN

[celest halo]

there is a section of 100.* range that is "private"

[deft stone]

yep ok, i think the solution will be to contact ARK and ask them to "open" the 169.1 range ip as a valid public ip...

[west plinth]

I had this issue but it ended up being a firewall issue with my isp didn't show up on list for 5 days then one day like magic it was there

[celest halo]

what ever it is is def arks end on getting the info from EOS

[deft stone]

or getting it and refusing as invalid...

[west plinth]

You both been a pleasure to Interact with today , until next time