unofficial-setup-help

[heady pagoda]

i haven't tested it myself but they've always been reliable in the past so i would trust what they list

[wise kindle]

It was supposed to be updated for ASA, according to their twitter account. I cant say Ive checked tho.

[frozen basin]

point to The European Data Protection Board (EDPB)

[quartz pewter]

any concern for privacy is clearly a conspiracy theory. says @heady pagoda

[winter sand]

Melee shows 1.7% each level on Dododex seem kinda low?

[quartz pewter]

Theres no real way to actually tell unless they release the information. Everything is done off of a base, then a multiplier. It gets very complicated very fast. The rates for ASE are definately not the same as ASA for the most part. Some yes but so much tweaking and balance goes on you can just hope to be in the ball park. You will have to set it at something and test it. Its a PITA

Dodex will be "close enough" tho for anything measurable.

[winter sand]

Shoot ok thanks for the help guys!

[ripe yoke]

Is there a way to permanently have on the r.volumetricfog ect commands on servers to save having to use them everytime.

[frigid vine]

Without Details, Nobody can Help.

OS, VM, Hardware, Players, Internet Connection, Settings are Minimum of information.

[tardy pine]

How is ram usage, if there isnt enough available then there will be a lot of garbage collection and ram clearing going on to keep it alive. That for sure slows it down.

Would you mind sharing how you found the server fps?

[low dew]

good chance he didnt have enough ram to run the server

@tardy pine

[lyric python]

Does anyone else experience lag spikes/rubberbanding for the entire server when someone is clearing caves or killing babies? It seems like killing something on my server causes a 'slow frame detected' lag spike.

Even if you're not experiencing this, please let me know so I know if it's just me or others experience this too

Hmmm my hardware should definitely be able to handle it though - i7-13700K and 6400 mhz DDR5 ram 🤔

It's specifically when killing something, dealing the final hit hmm

Do you experience this? 🤔

[wanton hinge]

Oh yeah my server spams that message all day long, but I don't really notice any lag though.

[wise kindle]

Same. I never notice it unless I swap to admin.

[severe pawn]

windows server ASA-- xeon E5-2630 v2 (x2) 128 gb 1333mhz lan 1gbps // 15 players 2.5 fps server aprox PING...90 aprox..

windows server Evolved -- xeon silver 4208 (x2) 128gb 2400mhz lan 1gbps // 20 players 20fps server aprox 15-25 PING 30

Thanks for your answer. We are thinking if the RAM frequency could be the cause. Do you think it's possible? @tardy pine

[frail ferry]

any idea why this 50,50 thing keep happening? or how to prevent it? sucking up random stuff from map and smashing it all together there

[wise kindle]

Disable ORP if you have that enabled, it seems to contribute to its likelihood greatly. Taking steps to reduce lag also helps. The fix will take a while to get here, best thing you can do it just try to streamline your maps. Pod up dinos, reduce the number of structures and torches/lights etc. Everything that creates better performance seems to lessen the likelihood of it occurring.
Till the game gets optimized and fixed we just have to make do.

[tardy pine]

ouch, yeah 1333 was ddr2 wasnt it? could definitely play a role

[low dew]

1333mhz of ddr2 ram is almost as old as the Roman empire

I can hear dialup noises thinking of ddr2

[shell cobalt]

Hallo

Kann mir jemand helfen

[frank egret]

1333mhz ram was ddr3

[low dew]

@shell cobalt english

[frank egret]

128gb of ddr3 is still alot of sticks, you must have that thing packed with like 16 sticks lol

thats not true ive got it on many server i dont have admin for, its for the client not the server

the servers are single threaded, so while your system is telling you its only using 8% of the total available its probably hammering the hell out of the one core its using

nitrado owns the server rights tot he game thats why this is happening. they got hammered by us for not letting us host our own private servers and now this is there way to trey to get us to give up and just rent their shitty servers

[native wave]

8 sticks of 16GB. Probably a capacity of 384GB. What I have in my system

[frank egret]

16gb sticks of ddr3 wasnt easy to get

more common was 8gb

[wanton hinge]

I've never seen it once when I'm not logged in lol

[native wave]

Easy to get off of ebay now

[frank egret]

ive seen it alot

noit recently but at the beginning i did

hmm i might have to check ebay for that

well then im stand corrected but still that a hell of a lot for a ddr3 lol

i have 256gb of ddr4 ecc in my dual xeon build

i have noticed tho my ASA server runs way better on my 3950x machine then is does on my xeon server

higher clock speeds are king for servers like these

[wanton hinge]

Don't worry, Player Hosted will be out the window soon enough. 🙂

[frank egret]

nah

we got too many ppl that fought back to get this far

[finite pumice]

Playing on single player xbox series X. Had dome major probs recently.
Had to uninstall most of the mods, only keeping Turkey trial and ASR. Logged in, did a couple of hours, logged out. Went back an hour later and all my armour, ammo and Kibble had been deleted. Not only the stuff I'm wearing but everything in my inventory and storage.
And all the rare flowers out of the fridges(about 1000). Not sure what happened but it's a huge pain when I'd planned to go out and tame a few Queen bee's.
Is it the Mods that is causing the huge bugs or the settings?

[frank egret]

thats a save file glitsch thats been known for a bit now, need to manually save before you log off

that has nothing to do with the loan, snail is paying that back not the players. nitrado is just another shady ass money grab company that charges fro premium service and delivers third world garbage

[wise kindle]

tbh this channel is for server help, you might want to hit up #bobs-with-probs for single player issues. The behavior on single player can be a lot different in many cases compared to hosted servers.

[wanton hinge]

lol

[frank egret]

to be fair tho they got a better chance of making it back from players thent hey do from snail lol

[finite pumice]

Yeah, I've read a bit about that. The module attached to my arm is not in my inventory either. Some odd stuff.

[frank egret]

and i thought us pc players had issues lol

could jsut be a corrupted save or game file

[severe pawn]

So... do you think a non-server processor would be better? to work with handle? or it could be the difference of 1333mhz versus 2400mhz... we are going to do tests, but we have even thought about buying a new machine

[frank egret]

So yes and no

You would notice a difference going to say a newer Xeon with ddr4, but if you wanted just that one server running then a normal desktop system would be more cost effective. I have my dual Xeon build running 26 different vms, 24 of those being ASE servers. Mainstream desktop systems don’t have the amount of resources available to do that without spending thousands on like a threadripper system

another huge difference i noticed with ASE is running it on windows vs linux, i had two windows server vms running 12 maps each. they ran ok but would lag out over time and one map would effect all maps ie bronto farming. since then ive swithced to each map bein gon its own linux container and the performance differnce from that switch alone id say i got a 150% or more increase in server performance and stability. sadly i cant do that same test with ASA cuz they refuse to release a linux server version

i already know y they refuse to release it too

[wanton hinge]

Servers just updated to v32.28?

[severe pawn]

Thank you very much for your answer. We are trying to get ASA to work well, we have several machines, 2 of them with evolved and another with ASA and we are doing tests...

[wanton hinge]

There' s no patch notes yet, but servers can be updated to 32.28

[frank egret]

for my ascended server i just used a windows server vm and gave it just enough cpu and stuff to run just the asa server on

seems to b eok so far, server doesnt crash and i get at least 20 fps server side average is closer to the 30 cap the servers are defaulted to

just wish theyd release a linux version, on my ASE maps you can have 20 ppl bronto farming and the tick rate is pretty much locked at 25-30

[wanton hinge]

You can use proton to host a server on Linux. It works really well.

[frank egret]

yea but you have the same process lag as if you went the windows server route

i know u can do it but its not the same as native linux version

[wanton hinge]

I've had no issues running my server on proton.

[frank egret]

and i havent really had any running mine on wondows server other then the occassional blips in caves and stuf fliek that

just not worth the hassle for me at this point knowing the differences are minut

[wanton hinge]

It's just a good alternative to people who don't want to pay the windows licensing fees.

[frank egret]

oh i dont pay license fees lol

runing windows server in a vm not as the base os

[celest halo]

win10 pro runs fine with no license just cant edit themes

[wanton hinge]

True.

[frank egret]

yea thats really the only difference

[wanton hinge]

But you have to deal with the watermark :c

[frank egret]

plus you can get a win 10 key for like $20

i paid $30 a few years ago for a windows server 2019 key

[celest halo]

its a vm running ark i see that watermark for like 5min when they release a patch and i remote into it to update it lol

[wanton hinge]

I was just refreshing that 180 day validation period on mine lol

For windows server 2019

[frank egret]

i also have freinds that get me pre digitally activated OS ISO's

[wanton hinge]

Well when it comes to the majority, they will rent a bare metal and just pay the $20/mo license

I know some hosts don't allow you to load your own ISOs

[frank egret]

most ppl dont realize how easy it is to do on your own stuff

i pay less then that for the electricity to run my stuff, in the end running your own pays for itself, specially since i can run 70+ player slots and it dont cost me extra

[wanton hinge]

I got boonies internet.

[frank egret]

thats another reason nitrado costs so much as well all they use is windows server

i live on the edge of my town and get gigbit internet so i got lucky where i am

[wanton hinge]

My old house I had a little homebrew system setup for home hosting.

Up here its much cheaper and affordable, the internet is just unreliable

[frank egret]

ill send ya a pic of my setup if you wanna see it lol

[wanton hinge]

Sure I love seeing those setups

My old server rack sitting in my basement collecting dust.

[celest halo]

i only have 300/10 internet 1gig here is to much money lol

[wanton hinge]

The 10 is what hits ya.

Upload is important when it comes to hosting servers.

[celest halo]

they say its 10up normally get 12 though even though it not much better

[frank egret]

i pay a little extra to get slightly boosted upload

its still an async connection tho not true fiber

thats not a bad deal

[celest halo]

thats cheap

[frank egret]

specially if its a sync connection

[wanton hinge]

It's not bad at all, just taking months for them to get to my part of the woods. xD

[celest halo]

i pay 85 for the 300/10 lol

[frank egret]

i pay that for my gigbit lol

1000/50 tho

[wanton hinge]

I'm paying $200 for 150/40 rn

[frank egret]

having a good router and stuff helps too

u see that pic i sent you koz?

[wanton hinge]

How much you paying in electricity lol

[frank egret]

my bill is less then 200 a month

[celest halo]

all my network stuff is Unifi besides the modem

[frank egret]

yea same here

oh and to top it off koz that whole rack is water cooled

[wanton hinge]

The fiber up here is going to be running plume

[frank egret]

its dead silent 🙂

[wanton hinge]

I never do watercooling anymore

I'm too lazy to maintain it and clean it

[frank egret]

i did it cuz that rack is 3 ft from me rn lol

i needed the wquietness

[celest halo]

my main desktop is only thing thats water cooled, and after running 4 years its in need of a disasemble and cleaning

[frank egret]

in total with that rack i got 128 cores and 392 gb of memory

[celest halo]

cpu block looks fine, gpu block has builduup and making gpu run little hoter then it should be lol

[frank egret]

are you using anything other then just plain distilled water?

[celest halo]

its got corsair hydro x coolant in it

[frank egret]

after 4 years tho thats not bad at all, the other plus side of water is you can reuse 90% of the components when you upgrade

[atomic adder]

So whats the deal with Ark.UseServerList 0? Why do I need to do this every time I start my client to see certain unofficial servers?

[sullen heath]

the deal is Nitrado

[mint raft]

Anybody having problem on unoffical that some engrams are unlocked but dont show up its says yo need to unlock this and that. But shows like unlocked

[atomic adder]

Yeah I just realized that...

[north pier]

Stats are all the same in ASA. 🙂

[wanton hinge]

If you want to have a normal functioning server, just rent from Nitrado.

[atomic adder]

I hope this is sarcastic lmao

[frank egret]

it is but isnt sarcastic lol

[sullen heath]

thats the biggest joke in gaming history 😄

[frank egret]

can really spark a debate on what normal even is these day slol

[atomic adder]

My server function fine, just doesn’t appear in search results by default because wildcard is screwing us over lol.

[frank egret]

give it time ppl are working on work arounds im sure

[wanton hinge]

That's the point of the sarcasm

It's like a sad reality we're in right now.

[near light]

checkbox "Show Player Servers" shouldnt exist and wasnt needed :)

[deft stone]

the reason is there is too much server on the list. The client retreive only 9999 server from the list, and theres is more than 10000 ...

and in the new way to list servers, the search is client side... when you do Ark.UseServerList 0 you roll back the way the client server list work, and the search is server side.. .thats why it work

[low dew]

thats not accurate the reason the filter was added is because nitrado feels there not making enough money because people dont wanna rent there garbage servers

filter literally seprates nitrado servers from private servers

[sullen heath]

thats for sure not the reason... since typing the first few letters of the server would solve that

[fallen sapphire]

for crossplay in evolved, is there no way around port forwarding? do you have to port forward to join the server or only to host?

[celest halo]

i have yet to figure out why its there, my non nitardo server shows up fine for me without checking it

[fallen sapphire]

trying to setup crossplay server between win10 and xbox and looking dire

[low dew]

meh evolved is kinda lame now tbh

[fallen sapphire]

ya but its all i got rn LOL

[muted cliff]

What's your servername? I can try to search it. Are you on the latest update as well?

[heady pagoda]

so nitrado makes money when folks join servers or something? 🤣

[muted cliff]

@heady pagoda I thought the update seperates and makes it so Nitrado servers and Unofficial servers are separate?

[vapid orchid]

As long as it helps to not play on a Nitrado server

[heady pagoda]

a filter was added to show nitrado vs non-nitrado, yes. but i dont see how that makes nitrado any money at all.

i could understand it takes money from monitized non-nitrado servers even. but makes nitrado money? idk about that

[muted cliff]

I can see what you mean. It's kind of like it promotes in a way but the guy above said his shows in unofficial so there must be a code or something. Clearly it's to promote Nitrado owned servers. At least that's how I see it

[vapid orchid]

Btw, Nitrado has installed a file last patch that allows them to pull IPs from everyone not on their servers apparently

[muted cliff]

This ^ I agree it's sus

[vapid orchid]

Of course, because all they care about is ruining ARK for money

[muted cliff]

Why are we allowing people to mess with stuff that originally wasn't broken? They claim unofficial server searching was broken.

Like fix your game. Not the stupid unofficial server searching crap. There was nothing wrong with it to begin with.

[vapid orchid]

Never was. It was "broken" because no one rented or played on Nitrado servers

[muted cliff]

Exactly!!! THANK YOU

[sullen heath]

but, does it matter? what could they do?

[vapid orchid]

Almost all non-Nitrado servers run 10 times better on outdated hardware

[heady pagoda]

is this one of those "new" ini files?

[muted cliff]

Cmon @sullen heath it's just suspicious. It's clearly to track how many people use Nitrado vs don't

Yeah it's in the ini files

[sullen heath]

sure, and what does that change?

[muted cliff]

It just seems really off. Why do they need to touch all this? Shouldn't they be focusing on fixing their game instead of worrying about seperating the ARK communities?

[vapid orchid]

It does. There was no consent from anyone to have your IP pulled by Nitrado on a player-hosted server. Now, Nitrado also has shitty security, not even going through Cloudflare or anything, so yeah, nice security breach there

[heady pagoda]

they aren't new - check the created date yourself

[muted cliff]

See Britt gets it.

[heady pagoda]

we are all sending WC our IPs when we use their auth server to connect to any server 🤷

[muted cliff]

When did we give this company "Nitrado" permission to give them anything from OUR SELF HOSTED SERVER.

It just makes no sense.

[heady pagoda]

TOS acceptance. literally.

[vapid orchid]

But did you agree to give Nitrado your IP?

[heady pagoda]

i did accept the TOS, yes

[muted cliff]

Yeah man this is about Nitrado this isn't about hating on Wildcard. Wildcard got wrapped in it with the "business deal" with Nitrado. We know it's not Wildcards fault.

[vapid orchid]

Nitrado as a whole can go bankrupt and I'll be hosting the party once they're gone.

[muted cliff]

Where in the TOS does it say we agreed to give Nitrado our IP?

[heady pagoda]

you guys know how server lists work right? if these IPs were not handed around than no one would see or join your server

[vapid orchid]

That's true, but here's the catch. You host your own server, only you get to see the IPs connecting to you. Now with the last patch not only you can see it but Nitrado as well. They weren't able to do that before

And Nitrado's connection isn't secure, so anyone can easily pull data from that connection

[robust heath]

Hello, can you tell me how I can make sure that Amnesia soup does not have a cooldown time on my server?

And how to increase resource stacks without mods?
Sorry for such stupid questions, I'm a complete newbie at this

[muted cliff]

Server ip's are different from your regular IP Lazarus

Yeah and what if Nitrado stuff leaks then you get to see everyone's IP's to the public 🙂 woooooo

[heady pagoda]

they were always able to see this though. they didn't just now turn this on. its just the nature of the trace from connecting through the WC server list

[vapid orchid]

They were not able to see when I connect to what server. The only log is when you log into the game, not upon connecting to a server in the game unless it is the official network or Nitrado hosted unofficial. Non-Nitrado were completely off-limit for Nitrado and they had no clue when you connected to a non-Nitrado server. On top they also now track from where you log on, where the player server is located, and all that. Defending that bs just puts you on their side and I have no sympathy for people who defend Nitrado's scummy methods

[muted cliff]

I don't think these noobs get it. We just need to wait till they screw up more times and then maybe they'll get it after the 100th time Britt.

[heady pagoda]

yall assuming im defending something when you dont even understand what im saying 🤦

[muted cliff]

Cause what you are saying doesn't make any logical sense.

[deep flower]

TOS doesn't take anyone's voice away.

[muted cliff]

Lazarus why can't they make a Nitrado Servers only tab? They would never.

[heady pagoda]

sorry, didnt realize it was tin foil time. thought folks wanted to learn a bit about how networking leaves fingerprints but guess you all know more about being safe than anyone else

[vapid orchid]

THey kinda did. I now know which tab to avoid

[muted cliff]

For people who have "tech" in their name and have a technical degree we pretty much know our tech networking. Thank you. @heady pagoda

[wanton hinge]

They won't make money that way.

[muted cliff]

See you get me Koz! THANK YOU

[heady pagoda]

glad to know the level of assumption you make about me

[muted cliff]

Love ya bro @heady pagoda

[wanton hinge]

Literally just put a giant nitrado logo with a link to their website for hosting instead of separating the lists.

[muted cliff]

Nothing wrong with the searching from the start but let's put a checkbox to seperate unofficial from nitrado servers. We need to put our beloved nitrao server company first before our fans ❤️

[wise kindle]

What really bakes my noodle is they keep trying to force console onto console only maps.
Its extremely irritating.
Can see all your self host maps all day long but I have to unclick the console Only box to see any other maps. So dumb.

[distant hearth]

ItemStackSizeMultiplier=3.000000 in the game user ini , will increase anything that does stack to 3x the base game rate ,use higher number if u want it to stack more .

For unlimited mindwipes, use bAllowUnlimitedRespecs=true in the game ini

nothing in game ini shud be under the header [serversettings] unless they changed it for asa?

[wise kindle]

Ah you right, I'll delete that bit. Was off the top of my head, at least I got the commas in the right spots.

[distant hearth]

its all good i was confused, as i havent looked at an asa server yet, but was told its the same as ase

it probably would still work, id expect the server just ignores the header anyway if it shudnt be there

[light vault]

anyone know why one of my maps is version 32.28 while the others are 32.24??

[wise kindle]

The others havent got the update yet.

[light vault]

cant even find it in the server list

are they releasing a patch today? ive restarted all 3 servers at the same time but only one was updated and nitrado said to basically fuck off and wait for a client side update

[muted cliff]

Wait you have a Nitrado server and can't find it on the list? @light vault

[robust heath]

Thanks for the help! For some reason it didn’t help with mindwipe, the timer is still 20 hours.
The value is as you wrote, the server was rebooted

[distant hearth]

any commands usually you have to wait out the initial cooldown before the new one takes eefect

i dont word it very well but basically shud be good next time

[muted cliff]

Not sure if this will make sense but try to check the stupid checkbox at the bottom right corner @light vault

[light vault]

yeah nothing working, other two servers pop up but they are 32.24

[muted cliff]

Yeah 32.24 is the latest that makes no sense...

[light vault]

yeah, Support just told us that we pretty much have to wait for an update client side

its just stuck in a restart cycle now

[muted cliff]

Dude Nitrado is screwing people so hard lol

And when do they expect an update? What will the update do?

[light vault]

Typical Nitrado and Ark behavior tbh, was hoping with the prices they fucking charge theyd beef shit up and whatnot

idk man, the update will allow me to see 32.28 build servers but i can see them in official just not the unoffical search. even the IP join wasnt working

[muted cliff]

Does it say your servers are online or just stuck in restart?

[light vault]

the other two are online and using the other build. this one in particular is now just stuck restart

[muted cliff]

Gosh dude sorry you need to go through all that bs. I really hope Nitrado gets karma.

[light vault]

thanks man, wish they would atleast credit account for this type of BS but their customer service is so bad

[muted cliff]

They really should credit the account

[distant hearth]

doesnt matter if its nitrado or "x" provider, they all get stuck in a boot loop now an agin, just the nature of it i guess. i had worse experience with g portal, yet others swear by them

[ornate raptor]

Anyone know whats in the new patch?

ARK Version: 32.28

[celest halo]

nope, been out for 23 hours and no patch notes for it

[ornate raptor]

They seem to be getting shadier with every release. Just want to knmow what they are doing with this one to block player hosted servers

[low dew]

@light vault welcome to owning a shattrado server lol

@ornate raptor I heard they added a nitrado query port to the game no doubt so nitrado can spy on private servers

@distant hearth best. Servers are rack servers

Or private built ones

[distant hearth]

i dont know much about at all tbh, i just looked after a cluster of servers on nitrado for years, then last year some g-portal ones. i just googled evertything i needed to know to make ark work

[low dew]

I've had both as well was a terrible experience I payed way to much for

[distant hearth]

i got lucky, never had an issue with nitrado, but it seems im about the only one

sure , wud get the occasional boot loop after a update , always fixed it by wiping the server and re install game with a backup save

[low dew]

Been running a rack server for awhile and I don't experience any of the issues people have been posting to be honest

[distant hearth]

my internet is completely shit, otherwise id prob look into having my own

[low dew]

I rent a rack server I got the trash internet to

[sullen heath]

what about renting a root server?

[distant hearth]

ah i see, so u can rent a server, but isnt that just same as renting a server from say nitrado, i mean ure just buying space on there systems right?

[low dew]

Your renting a machine

Essentially unshared resources you get it all to yourself

[sullen heath]

hell no, renting a root is 1000 times better hardware

[distant hearth]

ok, well i guess my homework is gonna be researching that, sounds interesting

[low dew]

I pay bout 80 bucks a month for mine and I'm not limited to ark

[distant hearth]

not limited to ark on a nitrado though, had some on dayz, some on ark, some on some weird game that my mate wanted , some on conan

but anyway i digress, i will look into it

[low dew]

Ya but you gotta rent another server for that

This is one machine I can host multiple servers

[distant hearth]

ah i see, so just cheaper if have multiples

plus better

[low dew]

You also don't pay extra for slots

Total hosting freedom is with a machine or root server as been mentioned

[frank egret]

what yall are failing to acknowledge is aside from the coding updates snail/wc have zero say when it comes to the server side of stuff

snail sold nitrado, or better said gave them server rights, that means everything to do with hosting a server nitrado has the monopoly on. snail and wc have zero say in the matter a tthis point but thats their fault really

[frank egret]

your not wrong but not all hosting companies have the same hardware or network capabilities

like nitrado for instance they only host windows based resources, hence y asa is only has windows versions. and yes before anyone says anything you can infact run asa on a linux machine with a some work arounds but its not the same as a native linux program

[distant hearth]

yea its all a bit beyond me , i will do more research and see what i can learn .
If nothing else it wont hurt me to know a bit more about it all

[frank egret]

the real reason bare metal servers are better is you get to allocate the resources where you want them to go, instead with nitrado your renting space from a very large windows based set of resources and windows server doesnt exactly disect its resources to the granular level like you can with a linux based system, there for even if your server isnt getting bogged down by what your doiing on it the fact your tied in with porbably 20-50 other ppls resources and essentially sharing, their servers can have a negative impact on yours

i know this cuz i ran 24 ASE servers on a windows server build and windows would just do what it wanted with the resources no matter how well i tried to tell it what i wnated

[distant hearth]

that makes sense , once had one of servers was really bad for lag an crashing, the other ones were fine, they moved the server and it never was an issue again

[frank egret]

one map would cause a chain reaction of all the maps to start misbehaving

[distant hearth]

i suspect they got away with it in ase as there were so many servers dead or just 1-2 people on them

[frank egret]

the biggest cause tho is ppl trying to push the little resources they have to the max cuz they dont wanna rent more resources and its just a chain reaction within the system itself

so if you got one guy pegging his ram usage tot he max itll effect the rest of the ppl on that particular system

that kinda break it down into a semi easily digestable format for ya?

[distant hearth]

yes ty

[frank egret]

your welcome 🙂

anyoine else need a condensed break down of y nitrado sux?

oh and one more thing whil eim in a ranting mood lol, they will advertise as having top of the line equipment but fail to mention its top of the line from 15 years ago

had it out with a tech rep from gportal about this very topic before

[celest halo]

dont matter if its top of the line, all game server hosting providers do the same thing and try to run tomany servers on one computer so they dont need to buy as many servers

[low dew]

And poor customer service on already poor servers lack of freedom over priced constant issues more then likely caused by there trash interface and broken scripts

[slate nexus]

Anyone able to help me identify a crash error and a possible fix?

Allocator Stats for binned2 are not in this build set BINNED2_ALLOCATOR_STATS 1 in MallocBinned2.cpp

Running a few smaller mods, nothing giant though

[low dew]

@slate nexus are you crashing

Do you have a crash stack

[slate nexus]

Two crashes over the last two hours, right about exactly an hour inbetween

[low dew]

Go into your logs

Grab your most recent crash stack and dm me

[slate nexus]

Frankly, isn’t even my server and I haven’t a clue what that means. Just trying to help the owner lol

[low dew]

No crash log can't help really

[slate nexus]

Alright

[low dew]

Recommend getting him to grab the 2 most recent ones and then can prolly figure out what's happening

@slate nexus

[slate nexus]

Alright

Supposedly it just… cleared itself?

[slate nexus]

This is the most recent, but can’t get the second

[nimble talon]

Hmm, any patch notes for 32.28?

[low dew]

@slate nexus i don't really understand ?

[slate nexus]

Dms

[weary burrow]

is anyone having imprinting bugs?

i can press e and "feed" the dino to imprint it

even without the resources

[distant hearth]

yea, since they tried fix controller imprints not showing, dinos now imprint anything off whats in last slot

[weary burrow]

is this fixable/ everyone has this rn? or do we wait

[distant hearth]

wait till they patch it

[wise kindle]

We wait and act happy about it lol.

[weary burrow]

another question sorry

[distant hearth]

yea, not the worst bug in world, im fine if they prioritize other things lol

[low dew]

It's a feature not a bug

[weary burrow]

so i have bronto babies and all my other babies can be eaten by my dinos to clean up. the bronto corpses are uneatable i assume this is beacause of the baby mesh change anyone have this or fix?

[low dew]

Haven't experienced that issue

[wise kindle]

yeah I'm just a grump lol. Its basically the drake fix from ASE.

[weary burrow]

yeah its pissing me off but now i know everyone has it i can live happy out of my hands

[distant hearth]

oh i forgot bout that one with drakes

[weary burrow]

for my bronto baby problem tho would turning on skeletal mesh ini work maybe?

[distant hearth]

ive seen others having same issue, since the last update with baby mesh or w.e they did

[weary burrow]

i just turned on skeltal mesh when out of render ini idk why that whould cause this but im testing to see if it fixes

cuz when i try to eat them i never left render to begin with it shouldnt be the issue

[tight plank]

is there any way to get rid of those ini files that nitrado installed on my private server

or am i just stuck with their spyware

[boreal sluice]

ok so after watching a specific YT vid, about how our personal information on our own private servers is being now monitored without our consent, is there a way to block that?

[distant hearth]

cant you just delete them?

[tight plank]

idk probably im just wondering if they’ll keep coming back

also do you know specifically which ones they are

[boreal sluice]

I dont need to feel like they have access to my playerbase or my info

[distant hearth]

with the next ypdate i suppose if there included, i personally think it was typical wc incompentency an the update came out with what nitrado norm recieve

[celest halo]

them files been there since day one on private servers

[tight plank]

ya true curious if that’s why we didn’t get patch notes for .28

[boreal sluice]

The information I watched said the ini files were updated witht he 32.24 update

[distant hearth]

oh dunno then, pretty sure since ure using open ports on a server its easy enough for someone get the data if they want

but that is besides th epoint i guess

[celest halo]

yeah blank files updated to blank files, and one of the youtubers that made a video has since taking it down

[boreal sluice]

A "trace utilities file" that compiles our IP addresses along with personal information showed up in the ini files with the .24 update

[sullen heath]

i hope you know that 99% of all yt videos are pure clickbait....

[boreal sluice]

I've been in this game alot longer than most of you im not stupid to clickbait, and this person is not just some random who'd post a video

IM pretty sure hed verify it before he put the info out there

[celest halo]

umm no, TraceUtilities.ini has been there since day one and is an empty file

[boreal sluice]

but if you guys dont know what im talking about then ok

Well on my dedi, it isnt

Its all good thanks anyway!

[quartz nova]

Hi, I disabled character/dino etc downloads on my config but players can still download chars etc, what can I do? ASA server

[wise kindle]

How did you disable downloads exactly?

Should be:
gus.ini [serversettings]
PreventDownloadDinos=True
PreventDownloadItems=True
PreventDownloadSurvivors=True

[tardy pine]

What is it that they are monitoring and collecting? IP address sure but we feed them that to make the server browser work anyway.

If they are pulling machine info or disk files then put the server in a blank VM and let them have whatever, there won't be anything to have.

If this is true though I do wish they would be up front with us about it. Most games do use telemetry to debug and fix compatibility issues, I'd imagine there is a section in the eula where they say they collect hardware info. Steam also collects a ton of hardware info

[heady pagoda]

you can check your own file creation dates to see when they were added to your server. you dont need a youtuber to tell you anything on this one.

[tardy pine]

For the record I'm not condoning sneaky data collection techniques, just explaining why certain data is useful for developers to collect.

[celest halo]

and TraceUtilities is part of unreal engine 5

[sullen heath]

just like livelink

[obsidian palm]

Hey guys I’m having problems with my nitrado server. One of my friends can’t see the server any advice?

[tardy pine]

If anyone has this video I'd be interested in seeing it. Feel free to DM. It's probably analytics but I'm still curious

[sullen heath]

did he click the "show player server" and refreshed?

[wise kindle]

I think she was referring to the Nooblets one, but dont quote me on that. I dont watch that guy.

[distant hearth]

has he connected to it before, is the server set to xplay if he uses a differnt system

[distant hearth]

probably teachersgametoo , but i might be wrong, guessing

[heady pagoda]

i have yet to see a video where they open the files or show the creation date so haven't seen evidence, just clickbait

Teachers Game Too made one

[celest halo]

he took his down, i had comment on it and video is gone now

[obsidian palm]

They have joined before. Its set to steam only. we are all on pc

[heady pagoda]

props to him! he didn't do any investigation before posting

[distant hearth]

i think he mixxed up created dates an updated dates

[wise kindle]

Or the Buzzlitebeer guy. Its a short list, wouldnt be hard to figure out.

[celest halo]

none of them do and one of teaches own comments said he was good with computers lmao

[distant hearth]

can he connect to other servers? sometimes just connecting to another then restart game will sort it,

[celest halo]

best part about teaches video was him saying he didnt want to click on something and show his servers ips, i wonder if he knows what the battlemetrics website is lmao

[frank egret]

wonder if it works for rhynias lol

[wise kindle]

on my map it did

[distant hearth]

for there imprints yes, for there cravings no

[frank egret]

ah well damn it

[wise kindle]

Try it, I'm taking a players word for it (I havent tested it)

[distant hearth]

i tested it lol, was hoping to get a good bug

[wise kindle]

well dang.

[distant hearth]

the sytem is differn tfor craving as u feed the host what it asks for via radial wheel

was my first time try tame one though, so maybe i just did it wrong

[frank egret]

theyre using it to tell if you a nitrado hosted server or not

[tight plank]

so basically all those yt drama guys are bs

[frank egret]

they might have some merit to what they say, i wouldnt put it past nitrado to do some shady stuff to make our servers run like thiers do lol

[wise kindle]

If the video is obviously trying to elicit an emotional response, be very weary of the validity of its contents.

[distant hearth]

why do they need to use that? nitrado know how many servers they rent out , wc knows how many private servers they list

[frank egret]

theyre suppressing our servers

[hollow robin]

ok so i have a question does anybody get finished downloading/updating mods and get dashborded and i try to get back in to my server and it says joining and then just dashbords me again over and over

is there a way to fix this

[wise kindle]

Whatever mod you updated, uninstall it and try again. Bad mods can sometimes cause this.

[distant hearth]

supressing i can get behind, but that doesnt explain why they use that to tell if its nitrado or not, they already know that information

[frank egret]

they want it to be hard for ppl to find our servers so we give up and just rent from them

[hollow robin]

unistall it on the server or my personal side

[obsidian palm]

Yeah they have tried that but our server still doesn’t show up for them

[wise kindle]

Client side.

[hollow robin]

ok ty ill try that

[distant hearth]

can the direct connect via faourites in steam using the ip?

[frank egret]

favorites in asa dont work 80% of the time

[obsidian palm]

They have tried that but no luck

[frank egret]

its makes it easier and probably automates it

[distant hearth]

its got be automated anyway to generate the page in game that has the server listings

[distant hearth]

one last thing, can they join if someone invites them ?

[frank egret]

yes but theyre collecting the data that seperates the listings hence y u have to click that damn check box now

[distant hearth]

they already have that data, nitrado knows how many servers they rent, wc knows how many privates are in the listings

[frank egret]

yes but that changes probably by the minute

[obsidian palm]

How can I invite them?

[frank egret]

this way they dont have to monitor anything the system just suppresses it for them

[distant hearth]

i cant actually rem i think its through steam friends or summit like that

[distant hearth]

dont they have to know the data though, otherwise how wud a private server show up in the in game menu

anyway its a minor point, the whole adding button for privates its just a joke, funny thing is it made it more of a hassle connecting to nitrado servers.
What used take me seconds to find server i play on, now takes a minute or so

[stuck wigeon]

anyone have any reccomendations to a good server manager that supports ArkApi? Currently using windows GSM with plugin but its pretty basic

[ruby merlin]

shame u cant set a bat up with the game start and run the open command on your local machine and join that way

[heady pagoda]

i just click "join last played" so 🤷 about that whole list thing

[distant hearth]

that shit works for you? never does for me 😦

i have to search the server everytime

[heady pagoda]

since this update it has

[distant hearth]

hmm i might not of tried since update tbh

just tried, still dont work for me lol

[wanton hinge]

Basic? The Windows GSM plugin works great with Ark API. There are other tools you can use in tandem with it.

[stuck wigeon]

not saying it doesnt work fine, just has no restart schedule, RCON. Are there plugins for that??

[wanton hinge]

WindowsGSM has the scheduled restart right in the UI. Restart Crontab.

The api plugins you have to get through the official website.

[light vault]

s

anyone else having issues with the phantom patch? stack sizes keep resetting to offical size and deleting everything past it. players losing thousands of resources its crazy

the servers till on 32.24 are fine just the 32.28 ones and theyre crashing every 30 min

[wanton hinge]

My 32.28 server has been up for 4 hours now.

[dreamy venture]

Anyone know if you disable cave building with people built in them....
Does it destroy everything they have?
Or does it just prevent any more from being built?

[stuck wigeon]

Shit I didnt know that scheduled restarts! And yeah I already have tons of plugins & ARK API which works great. I guess that solves that issue, ill just use BM Rcon to send restart messages.

[wanton hinge]

Paying that 10 buckaroos a month for a RCON.

[stuck wigeon]

Any better options?

[dreamy venture]

mcron and windows scheduler ?

[wanton hinge]

Arkon

[wanton hinge]

Didn't realize how nice the api is though. I can let users redeem rewards in discord with a simple command or button into ark itself. Really nice.

[dull thicket]

anyone know this error? [2023.12.18-03.46.03:868][ 3]Allocator Stats for binned2 are not in this build set BINNED2_ALLOCATOR_STATS 1 in MallocBinned2.cpp

[distant kite]

Can someone please tell me why the map save backups aren't working, puts the server back to the same time no matter the save

[queen lodge]

The show player servers checkbox is really making it hard to get new players.

[light vault]

Gotta love Nitrado and their extremely ethical business practices

[queen lodge]

Seriously...

[light vault]

the literally spying on players via the .ini shit and collecting data without any consent from the user other than an agreement your game signs for you when you load it up in the Ini aswell

snail games is such a wonderful company!

[dull thicket]

heyyyyy i know you two!

[light vault]

lmaoo, figured id come here and post but saw you already did 😂

[willow dune]

Anyone have issues with a gcm bug? Shows the admin in GCM, but zero gun appears and unable to craft in GCM as normal. Nothing seems to fix the bug. Tried to make a new character. Tried everything. All other codes work.

[gilded bane]

Any good unofficial servers PvP i can join?

[queen zinc]

Anyone here know of a good guide out there to build a server PC capable of handling ASA and clustering all the maps together as they're released?

I'd like to just run my own cluster and not have to pay Nitrado a fortune in the future.

[gleaming kite]

At this point I would say hold your horses! Nirtado is trying to kill all private host servers ! And most likely they will succeed! I best you can do is just get ASE servers as players base is same there ! When private servers will start to go down 1 by 1 do to Nitrado spying and braking law in multiple countries by doing ! And at that point where only nitrado will be able to run , cluster servers they will up prices and kill game entirely! So all we can do is run ase servers but dont be exited because when they notice that ASE have more players than asa they will realise patch for ASE to disable host ! Why i think so you may ask ? Thats how things did run in 90s aka mafia ! Thats who are this company and thats future of game !

[queen zinc]

I'm not intending to host a cluster to the public. I'm just playing privately with my fiance.

I just don't want to pay Nitrado 160 per month for a cluster.

[bleak ivy]

there is a guide in the pins

also if you are lan then you don't need to worry about the port-forwarding either just need to download it and start it.

[queen zinc]

Appreciate the info. I'll need to go online for the server to connect up the fiance. Right now I'm more in the, "what do I buy" stage as I'd like to put together my own server box.

[frigid vine]

Nobody knows, how the Transfer Looks Like since we only one map and WC disabled the Transfer. So you have too wait.

Hardware: depends on the Players you want to be active per map (12-13)

Remember: currently the Server CPU Count has been doubled (4 logical cores) and the RAM 2,5x. So you will currently need two Servers with 128gb RAM or a real beast with 256GB to handle all maps Clusters.

Prices here in Germany around 250/300€ per month

The good Times from ase with one 128gb are done! Or WC Starts to optimize the servers

[queen zinc]

I don't mind dropping a lot of money on hardware. Just need to figure out what to buy and what software it runs on.

[frigid vine]

Then you have the answer 🙂
4 logical cores per map
Around 15-20GB per map
Good Internet min. 100mb (<= 10 Players)

[queen zinc]

I wonder if 256 gb would handle about 12 maps with a lot of mods. I'll have to do more research. Thanks for your help

[frigid vine]

256GB will be enough i guess. The Island, a small map, consumes 12-13gb.

I would Imagine, Like i Said If WC doesnt optimize the servers, that Gen2 has 20gb and ragna/lost Island 15-18gb

[gleaming kite]

Hp gen9 gen10 servers have tons of potential! With ddr4 ram and 12 core 3.5hz cpu your laughing! I have 25 servers running on my gen 9 with not best CPU possible and never had performance problems! At peak time seen max usage in cpu around 30% and ram was like 50% have 2x cpu 10 core each but 2.9 hz and 256gb ram and best part is of course maintenance options especially when hdd dies you just change it while machine is working 😉 in UK can get these relatively cheap around 400-500£ but will need further upgrades! Cpu your looking around 300£ each to het top one !

Best will be to get 24x 16gb ram with at least 2333mhz

[daring prairie]

Is the wild baby dinos mature speed Diff then if you breed baby Dinos ? I have my mature speed on 30 but I had a wild baby Dino yesterday and he needed 7 hours to mature ?

[daring berry]

@proven prawn bring console small servers back up

[frigid vine]

We talking about A:SA? 🙂 Check your Server FPS when you hit 20-30 players. 😉
We using Intel i9 12900K + DDR4 + Gen4 NVME >only for one< A:SA Server. The CPU overall usage is around 10%, true, but check the single used cores (4) and the Server-FPS. You will see you don't have stable 30 server-fps. Actually a bad performance.

[gleaming kite]

Nop ! They all run perfect and with average player count 20-30 per map ! We did run stress test and had no performance issues at all ! It all depends on your setup power supply and maintenance! I can say under max load server is very thirsty on power but i have 2x 800w psu so no problem but bill is sometimes quite high! I9 is shit even i7 8700k can perform better!

And don’t forget OS means a lot ! Win 10-11 sucks for servers ! Win server 19 or 22 is much better performance wise! As dont have all that bs crap using resources

[frigid vine]

Sorry again: because i don't get for what the "nop!" stays: you talk about A:SE or A:SA?

[gleaming kite]

Asa !

I do agree that low end wont work on asa bust single cpu setup wont be as good as actual server with multiple cpus made to handle tons of tasks ! Remember i9 is for gaming and work ! And its not so good at task ! You can get 20core 40thread cpus for server running on 3.5 base and in pair only thread reaper will outperform that setup

And just to clarify what im saying is based on my own experience not google or YouTube based information! Running server for POT with 100 online is where to check your server fps not in broken shit pile asa

[frigid vine]

Okay don't get me wrong but, there some things to clarify:

• comparing such an old 8700k vs 12900k is not a discussion worth 😄
• i9 isn't for gaming; i5 is for gaming (maybe the i7 makes sense but rare) but i don't talked about client performance
• PSU isn't a problem: if your system runs under stresstest for hours and still alives, you have no PSU issues

I tested a lot of CPU/RAM combinations for A:SA
i7 8700k
i9 9900k
AMD Ryzen9 3900
AMD Ryzen7 3700x
And end up on the 12900k ist just a beast with modern architecture. Only the Ryzen9 was closly same performance.

That facts based also on my own experience.

So and now the part of questions:

1. You really mean you have 25 ASA-Servers installed on your old system and it can handle AVG(20-30) players per map/instance? We're talking about 625 players AVG same time online. That needs a 100 cores logical cpu, in theory. And 384-512GB RAM.

2. How can maintaince impact the server-fps? Ofc. i'm able to keep my system secure and heatlhy.

If you really handle with your 2 cores setup (12cores per CPU) 25 ASA-Servers with AVG(20-30) players online and having no ISSUES with server-fps (means min. 15fps per instance); please DM me for a screenshare session 🙂 I'm there on mostly everytime.

[atomic adder]

For game servers like Ark, desktop CPUs are absolutely better than server CPUs because they can more easily maintain higher clock speeds. (primarily due to low core count)

[frigid vine]

Just to clarify:

I tested a lot of CPU/RAM combinations for A:SA
Thats my possible combinations which i could test easily. There are ofc better CPUs but in fact of price/performance a good deal.

[atomic adder]

I did some math a while back and I think the best combos I could find where AMD 5600x with 128gb ram, could easily run like 6-8 high pop servers.

[frigid vine]

I have the same experience here. Tried also (but for A:SE, do not remind everything) some XENON cpus and tried one time this AMD epyc cpu, both i remember a bit was really bad compared to others.

[atomic adder]

If you wanted to dedicate the device to Ark servers

[mighty bison]

Hey guys can I get some help real quick?

I got a hatch time issue. I’ve been adjusting my hatch numbers back and forth for what seems like forever. But it won’t change. Do I have to test the new settings on new Dino’s/eggs?

[distant hearth]

yes, any eggs in the world will use old settings

[mighty bison]

Thanks

Now. Is it just the eggs or is it Dino’s too?

[atomic adder]

Also, make sure you are changing the settigs AFTER you have shut down the server, because the server re-writes the inis on shutdown

[distant hearth]

dinos too if you mean mating cooldowns, anythng with a cooldown has to reset before new settings take effect

[gleaming kite]

No i have only 5 asa servers man ! 20 ase servers !

[mighty bison]

Thank you

[tardy harbor]

Hello, does anyone know why I can't shoot cannons from any platform saddle ?

[frigid vine]

Asked two times 🙂 However. Even i'm pretty sure your 5 ASA Servers are on super low FPS when you hit the 20+ players same time online.

[gleaming kite]

Well! Im not jere to argue ! Thats what you think 😉 ! Im trying to say there much better setups for money you spent and performance you get ! If you wasted money and not happy about results doesn’t mean everyone else done same ! I built server for specific thing and i know how it performs and yes i did look for many options and any new stuff was kinda stupid to get do-to £ per performance !

[heady pagoda]

i believe thats controlled via OverrideStructurePlatformPrevention

[gleaming kite]

And numbers you’re so proud announce is from wiki ! I did read it too and its wrong

[heady pagoda]

if you aren't here to argue, you can let it go

[lucid solstice]

So I am having a recent issue with asa servers. My old pc that I was running my server had a harddrive that crapped out, so I got a new one, reinstalled the server stuff (cmd/files/etc), have all ports forwarded in both defender and router and my server isnt showing up. Using netstat -aof I only am seeing the server process using one port (i.e. 7777) instead of the three I expect it to use (7777, 7778, 27015). Similarly in Resource Monitor it only shows that it is listening on port 7777. Does anyone have a fix on this? I am wondering if its just parsing my batch file wrong, but that should give an error right?

I can tell the server is working locally from the logs, but its just not showing up

[mighty bison]

Ok I got more questions? Why is there multiple lines of code with different values? I can’t post a screen shot. Maybe someone can dm with the answer. It has to do with egg hatching speeds.

[heady pagoda]

there's a wiki page that explains all the config values you could use to match against what you are seeing

[mighty bison]

That’s not the issue. The issue is that there are multiple lines with different values. Of the same code.

There are 2 different egg hatch multipliers with different values on different lines.

[lucid solstice]

ITs the same exact key? Then delete the one you dont want

[heady pagoda]

yeah, you can delete the dupes

[mighty bison]

Ok. Thanks. Does the number location matter? Cause one is on line 20 and the other is like line 1

[heady pagoda]

no

[lucid solstice]

Location doesnt matter at all. Their parser is pretty good

[lucid solstice]

You have any clue about the issue I am having?

[heady pagoda]

do you have Show Player Servers checked when looking for the server?

if its not clicking, ive heard enter with the mouse hovering over it can work too

[frigid vine]

Why you think that i'm here looking for argue? o.O
I'm happy that some server-owners shared their experience because i had some really bad nights and still missing sleep from testing stuff out related to ARK-Server-Hosting since closley 4 years 😄

So don't get me wrong if i asked real questions and try to discuss with you.
I just mentioned my experience and that i cannot really believe that so many ark-servers with so many players running on stable server-fps. And if yours do that, please tell me more, if you like.

You cannot imagine how many hardware, software-tweaks, os-tweaks and server-settings i have tested in the last years 😄 So i'm happy with every tip to get more server-fps on higher player counts.

[lucid solstice]

Yeah, it doesnt show up

Cant see it on battlemetrics either. My best guess is that something with port forwarding is wrong, but I cant think what

[celest halo]

There is no steam query port so 27015 will not show

[lucid solstice]

But 7778 should show right?

[gleaming kite]

I know what you mean !Before I built my server i was looking in to i9 build but later find out that dual xenon can outperform it and run longer as well as price was cheaper! Downside is power usage with dual cpu especially xenon ! I understand i dont need server to hold 1000 players and if it will happen i just build other one ! I would say if i het 60% of usage its red flag for me and with asa that will happen 100% so best probably would be just to build one more ! But depending why you do it too ! I mean im not pushing for massive player base as we make nothing out of it apart of problems 😂 but for personal use would say dual or quadruple cpu setup is worth looking at especially newer generation!

[lucid solstice]

Is there something else I could be missing?

[heady pagoda]

did you copy/paste anything through a different program than normal? that can change the " used which would make things parse wrong

[lucid solstice]

For my batch files? No I wrote those manually

If it helps anything, the player count for the server shows 0/70, when I had it set in the settings to be maximum of 4. So I dont know if its having some parsing issues that I cant fint

[celest halo]

If using a server edition of windows you install the certificate revocation list

[lucid solstice]

Im not using the server edition, just the normal user

[celest halo]

7778 don't show as listen on mine only 7777 does

[lucid solstice]

Hmm, okay. I am completely lost on what its issue is then

Never had this issue with ase

[heady pagoda]

have you tried to join by ip? either in game command or with a game boot setting

[celest halo]

ASE also used steam network

ASA uses epics

[lucid solstice]

Yeah, it doesnt connect though. I cant query it through the api either

To clarify on that doing the ingame command gives me a black screen. I havent used it much, so I dont know if thats normal

[wet canyon]

Can ANYONE here help me. I own a server.
When I die, most times the entire server crashes. Doesnt happen with others. Help me please. I have ascended creatures on there and keep death bags mod but everything standard 5x rates.
Im worried if i die during a pvp battlr it will make for a bad affair with the server crashing right after

[lucid solstice]

The server crashes only when you die? I have never heard of anything like that happening

[opal osprey]

does anyone know what went into server 32.28? i don't see any patch notes for it, but thats what my server just updated to... previous patch notes are for 32.24

[vestal sequoia]

can you log in? i can't since this update

[opal osprey]

yes, i'm on Steam, running my own dedicated

[vestal sequoia]

oh, no, its still in 32.24, wtf?

[grizzled meteor]

I wonder too what they patched with 32.38... and also why did they splitt off player unofficials from nitrado unofficials... it does not even store the checkbox which you always need to enable to find your server.. very sad

[vestal sequoia]

its scamtrado pushing for people to use their servers

[opal osprey]

used one for 2 weeks while we waited for the anonymous branch... i'm good with not ever using them again

[vestal sequoia]

i didnt have a choice in ase, was waiting for asa to be able to switch to another server provider, then this shady deal happened x)

so, everyone can join their servers? No one can join mine for an hour
When you arrive in the mod page it says no mod installed (we are supposed to have several) and no one can join

[opal osprey]

WOW, looks like they broke cave spawns again... massive spawn in lava cave, like several thousand dinos

[sweet bridge]

Its happening for everyone. Not sure about pc but my console players can't join my server. Its already being looked into.

[heady pagoda]

its been happening to my server since ASA launched 🪦

[opal osprey]

first time i've seen this, done all the caves a bunch of times so far, also, murder turkeys in caves now? thats new for me as of this morning (have had Turkey Trial since they released it)

[vestal sequoia]

Ok thanks, i didnt see any posts from last hour so i didnt know it was a general thing

[wanton hinge]

I have auto updates turned off. I have heard people talking about issues with the new stealth update.

[celest halo]

I don't have update in my start bat for this reason, not going to update to a version they give no patch notes for

[opal osprey]

did a dino wipe, so hope that will fix the problem

[wanton hinge]

I had literally turned mine off I think yesterday morning for testing purposes with my game panel

Mine was happy accident. lol

[celest halo]

Lol, I have bot that checks steam so I knew the update was out then looked here and seen no patch notes

And now we over 2 days since it's release and no news from WC about it

[lament bear]

Having issues with the launch of the server after taking off the turkey mod anyone else have this issue?

Just shows zero mods

[wanton hinge]

We're literally talking about it

The update broke a lot of things

[lament bear]

Oh okay I’ll take a look at chat

Guessing no fix for now

[heady pagoda]

the 0 mod thing is new today, the .28 patch is a few days old. were waiting on CF and nitrado to fix the new mod thing.

[lament bear]

Okay thank you guys so much thought it was just me

[wanton hinge]

The .28 is not a few days old

[heady pagoda]

sorry, its more than 1 less than 2

[lament bear]

The mod thing is what I’m worried about no one can log into the server

[celest halo]

It came out on 12/16

[wanton hinge]

Weird my server didn't receive it till late yesterday

The dev server that resets constantly

[willow dune]

I’ve noticed a slew of bugs the last 24hrs. Love the lack of communication as always WC ❤️❤️❤️

[red depot]

is there a way to add in cryo pods to unofficial with the current official changes?

[celest halo]

I got the notice at 7:22pm EST for it on the 16th

[celest halo]

Think that's still in beta testing

[red depot]

ahh makes sense haha

[heady pagoda]

you'd have to find a modder that has already implemented these changes

[red depot]

do you know of any?

[heady pagoda]

no, afaik they all plan to make configs to avoid the changes

[celest halo]

Or run the beta version they have out with them in it

[heady pagoda]

and arent going to create them, just going to copy whatever WC does

[heady pagoda]

isnt that only on the PTR? im not aware of WC releaseing beta mods of upcoming patch changes

[unreal canyon]

Anyone on console have problems joining modded servers?

[celest halo]

Yeah PTR is pretty much beta game version

[red depot]

anyone know someone thats capable of making server ads?

[heady pagoda]

thats only official tho, not unoffical so it wouldn't help Amp's goal

[humble thicket]

yes

[celest halo]

You can run that selfhost unofficial

[heady pagoda]

so you suggest to run the PTR version until the pods drop and then migrate to the offical version? 😵

[charred meteor]

It has been fixed apparently, I just joined my server

[humble thicket]

It's fixed now!

[celest halo]

I don't suggest it, but it's only way to get official game cyro pods right now if you don't want to wait for them

[heady pagoda]

i dont think its nice put ideas out there that you dont suggest - cause that comes off as suggesting something that you don't think is good to others and is like a step away from trolling

[frank egret]

he gave an option to fix the problem and then said he advises against it, y is that a bad thing?

[heady pagoda]

he didnt say he advises against it until i ferreted that part out

[frank egret]

it be totally different if he said just do it everythign will be fine

[celest halo]

It's called putting out options, and I said it's a beta so it's your choice if you want to run a beta version or not

[frank egret]

@heady pagoda you tried putting words in his mouth and he corrected you lol

[heady pagoda]

i am ownt, got me

[frank egret]

i read what his responses were, not once did he try to say it was a good idea only that its an option

[celest halo]

I also don't suggest using mods either but will tell people if there is a mod that does what they want, betas and mods both have risks of messing up a game

[frank egret]

yep, anyone thats been doing this for a bit knows that

ive had mods cripple entire clusters on ase

[heady pagoda]

sorry you are both so upset by this

[celest halo]

Your the one upset saying it's not nice to give people options 🤣

[frank egret]

not upset just dont like it when ppl try to do that to me so watching some try to do it to someone else just dont sit right with me and ima call it out

[red depot]

everything is fine no point to being mad at each other

[frank egret]

yea focus that anger at nitrado lol

[celest halo]

Lol I have none with them, have some for WC though

[frank egret]

eh id say it smore snail but to each their own

[celest halo]

Some there also but snail didn't put out the last patch with no patch notes that's all on WC

[frank egret]

thats a fair point

i havent had any issues with the last patch either

[celest halo]

I haven't installed .28

[frank egret]

its been solid for me so far

[celest halo]

I have no issues with .24

[languid forge]

Anyone else having users report that when going to unofficial servers on two Xboxs that servers say Mods: Yes but when clicking the server it displays nothing?

[celest halo]

My selfhost server shows without having to check there new broken check box or do anything special

[frank egret]

thats fair

[celest halo]

WC needs to give us patch note for .28 and also tell us if there is Linux binaries coming would really like to get my server off winblows without having to use proton 😂

[tired harbor]

Anyone know how to make an alliance? I dont get an option when trying to invite someone

[ancient pelican]

Does anyone know how to fix cave loot crates not respawning in SP?

[heady pagoda]

do you have the setting enabled in ini? pretty sure you also have to create an alliance too

[languid forge]

make sure both are in guilds, and you have to create an alliance under the guid tab firs

[frank egret]

anyone here on nitrado?

have some questions

[opal osprey]

so, at least on my server (so far) i hit 3 caves (Lava, Lower South, Central) and only Lava had the massively overspawning issue, the two seemed fine, will check a couple more on lunch

[heady pagoda]

west ocean and hard snow are the worst two on my server if thats any help

[opal osprey]

West Ocean overspawn is pretty heavy all the time, thats nothing new... Hard Snow i was in friday and didn't see anything out of the ordinary

its mainly all the sharks in that one spot

[dapper hound]

Hi guys. When is the right time to pull out Turkey event mod from our servers?

[celest halo]

When you think it is

[muted cliff]

@heady pagoda Lazarus do you have a nitrado server or your own unofficial hosted server?

[celest halo]

You could run it all year if you want, it's your server

[heady pagoda]

the best thing i can tell you is that the respawn timer only ticks down when you are playing, so if you are counting your offline time in there youll be off a bit

[frank egret]

reloading in should reset those timers

at least it did int he past

[solemn zephyr]

Oddly I've been getting complaints on my server about certain cave drops not respawning

Haha Lazarus

[heady pagoda]

reminds me of the failed spawners from the early patches

also, could take lots of time to block and test depending on how many get reported

[ancient pelican]

Yea I'm only counting the time in game, and it's been over 15 game days since I cleared the cabe the first time. That's without messing with time too.

Also having issues with penguins spawning on any of the icebergs

[opal osprey]

SO glad i did Tek cave last week and not this week with these spawns... couldn't imagine a couple hundred level 620s Carnos, Rexes, Megalasaurus, etc

[ancient pelican]

Is there a code to force loot crates to respawn?

Or maybe reset them?

[heady pagoda]

im only aware of one that spawns new ones

[mighty bison]

Ok so. None of that worked

New eggs still have the same hatch timer

Should I try with new tames?

[ancient pelican]

Thanks for trying

[celest halo]

You using nitrado, if so do you have extra life bonus rates enabled

[mighty bison]

Ohhhhhh

And that’s effecting my games even when I’m adjusting it?

[celest halo]

Yeah it overrides ini settings

[mighty bison]

Ok wow

Thanks a ton friend

I actually feel kinda stupid

This is my third server and I should’ve caught that

[celest halo]

It's basically dynamic config, so anything set in it will override ini settings

[wanton hinge]

Stolen, with the dynamic config we can just delete the default rates from the ini and just use the weburl right?

I know it checks the dynamic config on each save interval

[celest halo]

I don't have rates in my ini that I have set in my dynamic config

[celest halo]

There is also a command to do a force check if ya don't want to wait after making a change

[mighty bison]

That worked. Thanks

[celest halo]

You're welcome

[north escarp]

is dino count multiplier even working?

I have it at 7 and I dont see much difference, yes I did a wild dino wipe.

[austere panther]

7 isn't a possible number to begin with.

That would be ~220k dinos on the map, which can't be done.

The game would be unplayable, the save file would corrupt, etc.

[errant fox]

Hello, having issues with taming Carcharos. What rates work best?

currently at 1x taming, 3x food drain rate, and 0.2 passive tame rate.

[north escarp]

so 2.0?

[lucid solstice]

I don't think carchas use either of the last two settings.

You are trying to tame carchas on 1x basically

[errant fox]

Yeah just curious only got 20% on it before I hit 100 on the dino and the roar didn't seem to reset it. Thought it used to

[supple ginkgo]

food drain only sounds kinda horrible doesnt it? That would mean all the tamed dinos would eat 3 times as much aswell (?)

[lucid solstice]

You have it trapped? If so that's the problem

[distant hearth]

you can set it for wild dinos, or tamed dinos

[errant fox]

different for wild and tamed dinos. Intent is to make it still necessary to make kibble but not take hours to tame otherwise

[lucid solstice]

Could set it to 2x and have the same effect. Although it probably really only effects carchas

[errant fox]

nah I was running around and was killing mostly brontos and diplos and didn't get past around 23% taming before I popped off

[lucid solstice]

Yeah, that's about right on 1x

[errant fox]

Sounds good just wanted to verify

[frail ferry]

when do cryopods get added?

[lucid solstice]

Carchas and megachelon on 1x are a nightmare to tame

[errant fox]

yeah might have to adjut the rates for people

[wise kindle]

tbh, I never touch that rate.

If I want different spawns, I change the individual creature spawn or the container. Overall upping the entire map spawn is less than ideal and can cause alot of performance issues.

[lucid solstice]

3x is a pretty good rate for casual pve I have found. It's not super fast taming or farming, but it doesn't feel super grindy either

[lucid solstice]

That is a lot of work for the average person though

[wise kindle]

Getting anything is alot of work. If you want to change something then change it. Its a choice. Work for it or not.

[lucid solstice]

Or set it to 2.0

[wise kindle]

I also dont like risking perf issues for a couple spawns that can be changed individually. Use beacon if you want to save yourself some time.

[wise kindle]

To each his own man.

[lucid solstice]

If you aren't hosting a community, 2.0 spawns is not going to cause any issues

[vast ferry]

I have a question for anyone that can help me up here cause im really confizzed. People are saying that players from Ark Evolved can join my Ark Ascended server. Is this true? What do I have to do because I have my server up on Nitrado but I dont see it anywhere on the server panel in game at all. Thats whats confusing me. I just need to know to get this to work because I also have a Ark Evolved server I can setup, I just want my friends to be able to play with me on Ascended

[wise kindle]

Agreed. But you should probably include that everytime you offer that advice tho. Alot of people ARE hosting communities here. Best to give advice based on the safe side, rather than risk sending an entire map into chaos.

[lucid solstice]

BTW, can anyone think of how to fix this?

[lucid solstice]

Yeah, generally I do mention stuff like thar

[wise kindle]

In your gus.ini toward the bottom, put this in there. Be sure to shutdown the map before you add this.

PreventDownloadDinos=True
PreventDownloadItems=True
PreventDownloadSurvivors=True

And be sure to password protect your map so random people cant join.

ServerPassword=addapasswordhere

[vast ferry]

I dont understand what your saying here. 3 lines will let Evolved players join Ascended servers or visa versa? cause thats what my question was. and im hosted on Nitrado.

[wise kindle]

You are trying to stop this yes?

[lucid solstice]

Evolved can't join with asa

[distant hearth]

you have been told wrong, ase players cannot join asa

[vast ferry]

ahhhh

[wise kindle]

I think they are just pulling his leg, regardless use these steps to prevent people from joining your maps.

[vast ferry]

ok thanks

[unreal canyon]

Anyone also has high ping on their server?

We are at 180 ping....

[tranquil spade]

new player hosted button is fire asf

[frigid zealot]

Hey so on Asa can we add the npc mod to like an actual unofficial server or is it strictly single player only?

[deep flower]

Im at 7

Does anyone know if theres a way to disable console commands on unofficial servers?

[lucid solstice]

I don't know an npc mod, but yeah you should be able to

[lucid solstice]

The console is clientside. No you cannot disable it. You can disable gamma though

[fresh python]

What is the best currency mod that is beginner friendly?

[deep flower]

Ok thank you!

[frigid zealot]

I don't know if they have bbs on Asa but that's what we've used on ase

[woeful sun]

Can’t u edit the gus.ini for that ?

[deep flower]

Its like the commands to turn off bushes and foliage so players can see across the map. Those ones are cracked.

I get clouds and fog but the others are crazy

[lucid solstice]

For gamma yes. But not to wholly disable the console

[lucid solstice]

Yeah, it's absurd, but we have to wait on wc for a fix

[deep flower]

Gotcha.

[woeful sun]

Really? U can’t disable admin logging in the ini?

[deep flower]

I don't think they are admin commands

[fresh python]

Ty. We got crunk currency we are trying to figure out but we are new to the unofficial server world

[wanton hinge]

What are you talking about?

[woeful sun]

Locking console commands completely

[languid plank]

alright, just be clear, this or something like this is what I should have to get the mods to work correctl right?
start TheIsland\ShooterGame\Binaries\Win64\ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?listen?SessionName=**** ServerAdminPassword=**** ServerPassword=**** Port=7777?QueryPort=27015?MaxPlayers=10 -NoBattlEye -mods=928793
this is not mine but just an example. right now i have a problem with mods, specfically the turkey trial not loading. just want to make sure that this is correct as it is what i have.

[wanton hinge]

Makes no sense

Disabling console commands for players would be so intrusive

[woeful sun]

Lol what

[deep flower]

Yep

[woeful sun]

He asked if it can be done

[deep flower]

Not all but some

[wanton hinge]

Just make the password something crazy and never look at it again

[languid plank]

ok, then i have no idea why turkey trials didnt load

[wanton hinge]

Then disable RCON

[deep flower]

put it in your gus.ini aswell

[coarse tulip]

you seem to be mistaking admin commands for what he is actually talking about.

[languid plank]

ah, whats the thing for that?

[wanton hinge]

Look at my previous message

[woeful sun]

For the console it’s all or nothing

[frigid zealot]

I'm not sure what currency we are using for the Asa in game shop. I'm not sure what points system it uses. But for ase we have bbs for both discord and in game currency that you can use to buy from shop we run for ase. It really just depends your preference. The bbs look like strawberries but square.

[wanton hinge]

[woeful sun]

Not intrusive basically a equal playing field not everyone uses commands for grass fog etc

[coarse tulip]

Some of them maybe. but there are so many that are just cheats for seeing everything, seeing through the ground, etc

[deep flower]

grass.enable 0
wp.runtime.hlod 0

are some examples

[violet tide]

what does the hlod command do?

[deep flower]

gets rid of literally everything except the floor, dinos, and bases

[woeful sun]

High level of detail off

[wanton hinge]

Disabling a players console means affecting their client as well. Not allowing them the freedom to control their game. I could 100% never be onboard with that.

[violet tide]

oh

[woeful sun]

It’s a pvp thing more then anything

[coarse tulip]

I agree, but it would be nice to disable certain commands and leaving others.

[wanton hinge]

The developers need to fix the issues with certain console commands affecting the gameplay.

[deep flower]

I am not talking about the console i am talking about certain commands that give an extreme unfair advantage and shouldnt be in the game.

[wanton hinge]

Petition it to the developers then.

[celest halo]

And some people need to disable foliage to get more then 5fps

[wanton hinge]

I will have a hard stance on people disabling my console commands lol

[coarse tulip]

If they put some of them in the graphics settings instead of only in the console, it would be better to solve

[wanton hinge]

Bad actors should not dictate what you can and can not do to your game using console commands.

[deep flower]

Yup ^ console commands shouldnt really be a thing

for players

Should be in graphic settings

Disabling bushes is nuts. I get lowering quality but yeah thats so OP. imagine if you could do that in any other pvp game.

and you can make all trees and rocks vanish

[violet tide]

Just look at any pvp youtube video. they all play in black and white with everything disabled just for the advantage.

[wanton hinge]

Then that's an issue the developers need to fix. Disabling console commands for players is a no go.

[coarse tulip]

disabling everything so you can see through mesh and not see anything, shouldnt be for regular players anyways.
if someone argues they disable everything for performance, maybe they shouldn't have bought a UE5 remake just to disable it all. unless they had the system to run it properly

[wanton hinge]

That would get immense push back from the large portion of the community.

[deep flower]

what console commands do you use so frequently?

as a player..

[wanton hinge]

I use it quite often to change several setting to make the game playable. I'm not going to go into detail, but I use it a lot.

[deep flower]

So settings that should be changable in the graphics tab, yeah?

[languid plank]

i only use clouds. gives me 10 fps.

[deep flower]

Same, that and fog.

[coarse tulip]

I feel like the moment a server is pvp enabled, the cheaty CC should be disabled by default. but obviously, thats a dev problem

[violet tide]

there's a lighting command t hat boosts my fps a lot

[wanton hinge]

I have a list of like 7 commands I have to enter in on each game start to improve my stuff.

[opal osprey]

so, still no update on what 32.28 actually does?

[languid plank]

i only do fog if i cant see at all

[wanton hinge]

I do agree that it should be a graphics setting though.

[deep flower]

thats so absurd to have to do that every single time you play the game 😦

[wanton hinge]

Mine doesn't save 🤷

[deep flower]

Same it sucks

[coarse tulip]

i use fog, clouds and sometimes the water particles. i run 75-100+ no problem. i dont need to disable anything else, and it makes the game look like nasty garbo

[wanton hinge]

No settings save in Ark. Not even the damn "Ark.UseServerList 0" lol

[languid plank]

is that just ActiveMods= ?

[deep flower]

Yup!

[north valve]

For some reason my GUS.ini has reset to default today after starting server, I cant force save the world since the password was removed whats the default saveworld command?

[languid plank]

alright, i thought i tried that, but ill give it another shot

[wanton hinge]

Did you run a steam update with validate

[deep flower]

try moving the -mods=1234556 in ur start.bat up closer. I had trouble with mine the very first go and moving it around helped a lot.

[languid plank]

if you are asking me, yes i do

[wanton hinge]

Validate is a command that will check all the server files to make sure they match the SteamCMD files. This command is useful if you think that files may be missing or corrupted.

Note:
Validation will overwrite any files that have been changed. This may cause issues with customized servers. For example, if you customize mapcycle.txt, this file will be overwritten to the server default. Any files that are not part of the default installation will not be affected.
It is recommended you use this command only on initial installation and if there are server issues.

[languid plank]

thanks, ill try tha as well. i think i threw it infront of the no battleeye

[coarse tulip]

Always keep a text doc backup of your GUS, and game.ini.
and default saveworld command is exactly that. saveworld

[north valve]

damn OK saveworld doesnt work

[wanton hinge]

Always make backups

[distant hearth]

not sure if its a nitrado only thing, but the server i play on is with them an they have wiped gus on it :/

[north valve]

I have a backup of the .ini but i need to shut the server down to update

[violet tide]

I don't know if this will help but you don't need to specificy the ports because those are already default. Get rid of them. MaxPlayers=10 doesn't work anymore. Here's mine
ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?listen -WinLiveMaxPlayers=10 -automanagedmods -nobattleye -servergamelog -servergamelogincludetribelogs -ServerRCONOutputTribeLogs -mods=xxxxx,xxxxx,xxxxx,xxxxx

[deep flower]

start ArkAscendedServer.exe "TheIsland_WP?listen?"SessionName="Server Name"?MaxPlayers=100 -Mods=123456 -NoTransferFromFiltering -NoBattlEye -WinLiveMaxPlayers=100

[coarse tulip]

well if you dont know what the save interval is, you probably have to take the gamble and fix it

[languid plank]

my max players is 70, that was just an example but thank you

[north valve]

I think it's set to save every 15 minutes by default, so ill just wait and hope 😄

[coarse tulip]

you should notice a slight lagspike when it saves so that should tell you when its safe

[wanton hinge]

That and creating hourly backups of the save folder helps too

[north valve]

hourly? any way to automate that?

[wanton hinge]

I automate it through a script I wrote. Basically just backups the save folder every hour and makes a core 24 hour backup for just incase. Then it recycles older backups to maintain disc space lol

[coarse tulip]

depends on where you host or how you host.
my host has an automatic script for it. but you can set one up yourself too

[north valve]

send the script my way ? 😄

[wanton hinge]

It's coded for my discord bot in python

[north valve]

I host from my own PC, screw nitrado

[coarse tulip]

oh, i agree, nitrado is dodo doo

i use auxilex. i used to do it on my own pc, but figured i would ease its load haha

[devout thistle]

wait, wut? does nitrado no longer have excluxivity?

[wanton hinge]

No they're just doing it illegally

[coarse tulip]

no. its technically just a baremetal host.

[wanton hinge]

I'm looking at their host now. It's pretty obvious to be selling the server through game panel.

They sell it based on player slots. This aint no bare metal offer.

[coarse tulip]

yeah, thats why i said technically. haha. but im not complaining. if they get yoinked, they get yoinked. not too worried about it.

i keep backupos of all the server files on my drive. so worst comes to worst. nothing lost

[patent mortar]

when editing the startup file with the server name, how do you get a space in the name. When I put spaces it only takes the frist word

[wanton hinge]

I just wouldn't risk a law suit and my company over a game. lol

[coarse tulip]

very true

[north valve]

you put the server name in quotations: ?SessionName="Kman's Server"

[half elbow]

I'm having serious issues. There's no errors, and I setup and played on my ARK server with others last night.

Every time I try to join from the server list, it says "Connection Timed Out". However, 8 hours ago, I was able to play on the server.
I tried rebooting the client & server, checking the client & server for corruption, and making sure everything matches on port forwarding.

[heady pagoda]

do you have a lot mods that take a long time to load on connection?

[half elbow]

We have 0 mods.

We just got the game and haven't played with mods yet.

Process Physical Memory: 171.08 MB used, 199.43 MB peak
Process Virtual Memory: 154.73 MB used, 160.56 MB peak
Physical Memory: 7204.07 MB used,  25525.65 MB free, 32729.72 MB total
Virtual Memory: 9780.54 MB used,  29605.18 MB free, 39385.72 MB total
ARK Version: 32.28
Primal Game Data Took 0.25 seconds
Server Initializing with BattlEye Anti-Cheat Protection. If you do not wish to use BattlEye, please launch with -NoBattlEye
BattlEye successfully started.
Server: "Dino Wonderland" has successfully started!
Commandline:  "TheIsland_WP?listen?SessionName=xxx?Port=xxx?QueryPort=xxx?" -WinLiveMaxPlayers=100 -usebattleye
Full Startup: 31.19 seconds
Number of cores 16
wp.Runtime.HLOD = "1"

I hid some information

[lunar cloud]

You can remove listen? from you start up, it has no use in ASA. Also, QueryPort is no longer used and not required anymore.

[half elbow]

Sure thing

[supple ginkgo]

do you host it on a pc on your local network?

[half elbow]

Yes, I have the ports open on Windows Firewall and OPNsense.

[half elbow]

It remains the same.

[supple ginkgo]

kk because I do the same thing, and you need nat loopback for that to work properly. I have to diable the port forward when I connect, and turn it on after

[half elbow]

Creating a NAT loopback breaks my entire connection. I host the server at someone else's house, and it's sole purpose acts as a server.

[supple ginkgo]

ah so not on your local network

[fallow marsh]

Anyone have any idea how to set up a server to be able to hear other people globally? We have a couple of playstation guys and the text chat is for the birds. Lol. Just looking for an ini and where to have it listed. Thanks!!!

[lunar cloud]

If you have the public IP of that server you can run a tool like nmap to test ports and just make sure you can connect to the server port and also it only uses UDP . I have TCP blocked in my infra and Ark uses purely UDP unless you are using RCON

[half elbow]

gameusersettings.ini
[ServerSettings]
GlobalVoiceChat=True

[half elbow]

Sure

[fallow marsh]

@half elbow thats a bummer. Thats what and where is entered but not working.

[half elbow]

Ensure to save the config, and that it doesn't change on server startup.

[half elbow]

I host a Conan Exiles server on the same machine. Let me try and connect to that server, since it's on the same network and VM.

[fallow marsh]

Bingo. I entered it last night and the server auto restarts in the morning here. It is showing still there but no bueno

[unreal canyon]

Anyone knows how to fix dinoharvesting they get so less items in difference to pickaxe

[supple ginkgo]

does it say Global voice chat false in the ingame admin manager?

[half elbow]

I connected to my Conan Exiles server really fast.

[lunar cloud]

If i test my server with nmap I get below. My Port is 30778

nmap -sU -p 30778 <my-server-public-ip>
PORT      STATE         SERVICE
30778/udp open|filtered unknown

So its a good test to see port is publicly flowing through all your firewalls and router port forwarding etc

"open" state means good

[half elbow]

Let me install nmap and test.

[fallow marsh]

@supple ginkgo where do i access that from.

[supple ginkgo]

use enablecheats and your admin passowrd in the console when your logged in, and type cheat showmyadminmanager in the console

dont have to write cheat infront of the manager apparently

[uncut geode]

hey be carefull player can upload tame and char from solo to unofficial

[fallow marsh]

It is set to true. Proximity is false

[supple ginkgo]

if global is set to true, then its wrong in the config file

[fallow marsh]

Huh? Lol

I have it typed out exactly as it was mentioned above.

[charred vector]

Why on ASA unofficial server does my players keep complaining of things disappearing from vaults and such. Is this a glitch???

[half elbow]

Thank you for the nmap command, I really need to learn nmap.

It seems that the ports for all of my other services are open, but ARK's ports are closed. Yet my rules are right next to them, and operational from the eye can tell.

[heady pagoda]

i believe thats DinoHarvestingDamageMultiplier=

[unreal canyon]

And then a number? how much you want? in game.ini or gameuser

[wanton hinge]

It goes in the Game.ini under [/script/shootergame.shootergamemode]

[lunar cloud]

If the port is not in open state with nmap, then its not reachable and being closed somewhere in the network hops. From your ark server if you get a shell on the server where the server is, you can run ss -tnul (SS is a socket stat tool that describes open ports) you can test if the server has the port open.
Example on my server: Note that I use RCON for managing the server and UDP for connecting to it . These are all you need to be open and reachable

ss -tunl
Netid        State         Recv-Q        Send-Q               Local Address:Port                Peer Address:Port       Process       
udp          UNCONN        0             0                          0.0.0.0:30778                    0.0.0.0:*                                           
tcp          LISTEN        0             16                         0.0.0.0:27020                    0.0.0.0:*

This will just ensure you know the process is listening

[plucky briar]

I built 2 motor boats and both when put into the sea are wild! what could this be?

[fallow marsh]

@plucky briar you have to tame them. I think they are a passive tame.

[plucky briar]

LOL bro

[fallow marsh]

No idea though sorry. Lol

[half elbow]

@lunar cloud This sounds pretty stupid, but I installed nmap on the server machine for future-use and accidently used it on there.

But using it from my PC away from that network, all ports do report open. Including ARK's ports.

[fallow marsh]

@supple ginkgo so any ideas?

[half elbow]

There was no links lol

(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\System32>nmap -sU -p 7800 ???
Starting Nmap 7.94 () at 2023-12-18 14:04 Pacific Standard Time
Nmap scan report for ??? (???)
Host is up (0.089s latency).

PORT     STATE         SERVICE
7800/udp open|filtered asr

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 13.10 seconds

C:\Windows\System32>```

[sullen heath]

where do we put that command into?

[lunar cloud]

If you go where the ark server is and get its public IP (can use command curl ifconfig.me ) to get its internet address, then run that nmap command on that public address from your PC where you connect from . is that showing ports open ?
Because when ark server starts it registers itself with (previously steam) the ark asa unofficial list and I believe it has the server public reachable IP there, so when you open ASA on your pc and join, you can join it. So i dont think it joins via LAN, but public internet

[half elbow]

Nmap from local reports closed (Only for ARK's ports)
Nmap from another network reports open
The server is always on the list everytime it starts.

[lunar cloud]

interesting, you mentioned you have conan server on the same box . is there a possibility of it port clashing ? or firewall rules for these mixed up ?

[half elbow]

Not to my knowledge. I have my ports seperate, which is also why I had the QueryPort changed for the ARK server too.

I also have them organized, and categorized.

[lunar cloud]

Good thing is ASA has only one UDP port needed, which helps reduce all the ports when more maps come and simpler firewall configs for just 1 UDP port

[half elbow]

            WAN    UDP    *    *    *    7800 - 7900    192.168.7.2    7800 - 7900    ARK        
            WAN    UDP    *    *    *    27017    192.168.7.2    27017    ARK ```

[wanton hinge]

That's just for the in-game console when you want to see your see and not deal with filters.

[sullen heath]

ah ...

[lunar cloud]

is that 27017 for RCON ? note that RCON is TCP, it does not use UDP (but you should be able to connect to play without RCON so thats a seperate thing)

[half elbow]

No, that was the old query port you told me to remove.

I only RCON from within the server machine itself, so no need to port forward.

[lunar cloud]

@half elbow it definitely sounds like a port issue somewhere , which is generally related to connection timeout. When ports are filtered, a client would generally hang and get a timeout (firewalls are usually the cause)
If a port is not open at all, it would get connection refused and generally is an instant connection error

one other thing you could try to join directly using IP. I beleive there is a console command in the game where you can join via IP and port. I heard rumors that it does not work for password protected server. But for troubleshooting I would remove the password temporarily, try connect , then add password back, just to rule out network issues

[half elbow]

WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:38:33-05:00    ???:62358    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:38:31-05:00    ???:54796    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:38:19-05:00    ???:64711    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:38:16-05:00    ???:63049    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:38:02-05:00    ???:52842    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:38:00-05:00    ???:60051    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:37:58-05:00    ???:58846    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:37:38-05:00    ???:61629    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:37:34-05:00    ???:56940    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:37:14-05:00    ???:63126    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:37:06-05:00    ???:54034    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself```

All port rules are passing for 7778 ^
The Conan Exiles server

None of the ARK's ports are showing up at all as sent or received in the firewall.

[fallow marsh]

Anyone know what to look for if GlobalVoiceChat=True
Isnt working?

[distant hearth]

make sure the player concerend doesnt have touch to talk on, stuff like that, start simple

[fallow marsh]

Someone stated earlier that if it shows up in the admin manager as true something isnt right. Which is how mine shows up.

[wise kindle]

This just enables ppl across the map to hear your game chat. It has worked in the past, but gamechat is trash so its hit and miss.

[fallow marsh]

Thats what we are trying to do. I have a couple buddies on playstation and im not typing everything out to em

[wise kindle]

Ah yeah they also need to check their chat settings. Mine is turned off so I dont accidentally scream across the map lol.

[fallow marsh]

We both tried the in game settings. Only option is to start talking or stop talking

[half elbow]

@lunar cloud I caught the ARK port 7777 being passed successfully in my server modem.

WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:46:43-05:00    ???:61639    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:46:43-05:00    ???:59389    192.168.7.2:7777    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself    
WindowsGameServer        2023-12-18T17:46:33-05:00    ???:22908    192.168.7.2:7778    udp    let out anything from firewall host itself```

[trim karma]

can anyone tell me if certain server settings have been renamed in asa?

like EggHatchSpeedMultiplier?

can't seem to get it to wotk on dedicated

[fallow marsh]

That one is the same.

[distant hearth]

that one is same, far as i know an can tell none have changes

[trim karma]

is there a max?

[fallow marsh]

I think ours is at 500

[trim karma]

and it works?

[ServerSettings] yes?

[fallow marsh]

Yup most eggs hatch in less than 30 seconds

[distant hearth]

no, egg hatch speed goes in game .ini

[half elbow]

I also went to check windows firewall, and the port 7777 UDP is completely open, for any addresses.

[trim karma]

no wonder, how do i know which goes where

[fallow marsh]

Correct on location.

[distant hearth]

google or ark server config on the wiki

[fallow marsh]

Google is your friend on that
Most of those types are under game.ini

[lunar cloud]

If you open the 7777 port and create a rule for it, can you check if that solves the issue ?

I just had a look at my infrastructure, and the server exe process only has the server port open, but i still allow for server port - 1 to be open as well.
In my case server listens on udp 30778, but my infra also has 30777 allowed even though process does not actively listen on that port.
Can you give that -1 port (7777) a go ?

[trim karma]

ill check

[distant hearth]

egg hatch speed is game.ini i 100% on that

[trim karma]

aight

[distant hearth]

beacon app helps, but i dont use it to upload settings just to generate an ini for export then copy the bits i want

[fallow marsh]

Our settings are as follows
Layeggintervalmultiplier=.25
Matingintervalmultiplier=.005
Egghatchspeedmultiplier=800
Babymaturespeedmultiplier=150
Babyfoodconsumptionspeedmultiplier.01

[carmine shoal]

Hey guys, just to clarify — if I remove the Thanksgiving mod, will it remove people’s cosmetics that they purchased with wishbones?

Wondering how to disable the event without that happening.

[fossil sparrow]

Re: the latest update, I wonder if "Improved network-movement for clients" means my users will finally be able to see my Unofficial server without jumping through hoops? 🤬

[distant hearth]

instant breed and get adults near enough?

[fallow marsh]

Not instant but pretty short and with the nanny setting dont have to stick around for imprints. We all have jobs so making it as fun as we can.

Still need imprints without the nanny. Very tolerable though. Everything can reach 100% imprint though without the nanny

[broken ruin]

what do i change in my game ini to get 150 dinos on my dedicated? difficulty offset?

[distant hearth]

fair enough, the good of settings is can how u want, bit high for my tastes but each to there own right, its about enjoying the game

[fallow marsh]

5

Bingo.

[distant hearth]

nothing in game ini , its done in game user ini ,OverrideOfficialDifficulty=5, it will be a line in there so just change it to 5

[broken ruin]

sorry thats what i meant gameusersettings.ini, and thank you that should fix er up

[trim karma]

@distant hearth @fallow marsh it worked, much appreciated

[broken ruin]

huh i changed the difficulty overide and im still getting tames with even numbers like level 4s and 62s

[distant hearth]

did u do a dino wipe after?

[broken ruin]

yes

i think the game reset my ini file because the server has a player cap of 70 when i set it to 10

[solid hound]

I'm unable to join an unofficial/player-server remotely, it's giving Joining Failed, Connection Timeout. I've tried everything from the Steam discussions and that I could find on Google, no results, any ideas on this? Works locally, and all ports are forwarded and allowed in firewall for the server, works with ASE without issue, just not ASA.

[distant hearth]

nitrado server? if so yea a few have been having issues.

[broken ruin]

no im self hosting

[distant hearth]

not sure then sry im not familiar with the self host setup. sry, i just know the ini cod elines

[broken ruin]

thanks for the advice anyways, I'll get it figured out eventually haha

[heady pagoda]

you can use MaxDifficulty=True in Game.ini for max 150 dinos

[cedar hill]

anyone have the xmas mod number?

[heady pagoda]

i dont think we get it until the event starts

[raven wigeon]

erm, where's the info on the dedicated server version 32.28???

[inner sinew]

whens the chrismas event starting?

[potent storm]

Hello!
I'm trying to adjust wild dino food drainage and tamed. I thought in ASE this was seperate but I'm not seeing a different settings on nitrado's dashboard for the two and i didnt see it browsing the game.ini or settings.ini files. Is this still possible?

[distant hearth]

you will had to add the code lines in game .ini

[potent storm]

@distant hearth I wondered about that and if the game would recognize it. So if I add it then does DinoCharacterFoodDrainMultiplier just pertain then to tamed dinos? do you happen to have to code by chance if not i can google it 🙂

[distant hearth]

TamedDinoCharacterFoodDrainMultiplier=1
WildDinoCharacterFoodDrainMultiplier=2

this doubles the wild food drain

[potent storm]

Thank you, and then should i just remove DinoCharacterFoodDrainMultiplier from the file?

[distant hearth]

adjust as u need, nitrado seem to be fucking with it tbh. but this is the lines from the game code an theres been no patch notes to say differnt , so unoless they ghosted it , shud work

[distant hearth]

yea im not sure on that one tbh is that in game user or game?

[potent storm]

its in game i believe

ill try to remove it and add the other two .. i feel like having all 3 would cause some conflicts

[distant hearth]

hmm, i wud try an just delete, unless nitrado are being akward an adding it again from the re general settings u shud be ok .

I havent had the pleasure cough on asa with nitrado, but those lines work in singleplayer asa ini , so they shud be fine

[late estuary]

Anyone know if there's a setting to increase the number of power generators within a certain range?

[potent storm]

@distant hearth thanks for the assistance and time

[barren flume]

Can someone explain how beacon works? Thinking about using it instead of nitrados settings options

[stable vapor]

Having issues. Everything has been good till today. Now server is consistently restarting on nitrado and no one can get on bc it keeps shutting down. I cked all mods they r good nothing new added, I tried stopping and starting. I tried rolling it back nothing. And I sent a ticket they told me to do everything I already did and closed the ticket so I reopened one and no response yet. Anyone know any solutions? HELP

[distant hearth]

LimitGeneratorsNum=0 , for unlimited , LimitGeneratorsRange=1 to allow more in area, ive not tested theese , but its the only ones i kno wof

[late estuary]

Ah looks like LimitGeneratorsNum=x in game.ini is what I want

[distant hearth]

hopefuklly it works, let me know if does, havent got around to test it

[late estuary]

Thanks!

[distant hearth]

beacon is just a tool to help generate ini files, it can upload them to a server for you, i prefer to do it manually

[distant hearth]

its good for helping with breeding multipliers an things like that

[raven wigeon]

any1 know of a nice server manager we can use for pvt servers??'

[barren flume]

This is my first time having a rented server. Seems like a lot. I cant get my harvest higher it seems

[distant hearth]

wow they actually closed the ticket despite server not coming online? thats bad. but if u tried stopping it for 5 mins , then restart, no joy, they will tell you its a mod issue..... make sure all mods upto date, no joy. Then u kinda stuck unles you know how to take an ftp save of the server, uninstall the game from server an reinstall it, load the ftp save back to it, change back ure ini files etc

[stable vapor]

@distant hearth the issues is all our stuff of one the modded map (that's where we currently are) and I don't want screw anything up. Ugh this is so annoying

[distant hearth]

harvesting is a simple one , stop the server wait 5 mins, got to the game user .ini change the line "HarvestAmountMultiplier=1" to what ever the number u want to have it multiply by, so 3 instead of 1 = 3x, save the file. wait a minute , restart server

[distant hearth]

yea the joys of running servers, it might sound rude of me, but learn how to take your own world saves from ftp an test in single player , or ya gotta wait for nitrado to fix , sry

[distant hearth]

you can learn it from youtube is how i did, ase is the same as asa

[stable vapor]

@distant hearth not rude at all. Thank you. If I new more than just hit this button or that I would do it but I'm to afraid I would screw it up more.

[wild plume]

Got an odd issue I had a perfectly working server with mods and everything since ASA released but today I moved the ark save file to another machine. I cannot boot the server with mods. It does not matter what mods I have.
So I installed a fresh ASA server and installed one mod to it and server will not start but take the mod away and it starts.
Does anyone know what is going on here, I've been trying to figure this out for hours.

I've also tried the same thing with steamcmd ASA and also from windowsgsm, same problem

[distant hearth]

yea i was always worried, thats why i test a world save from server in single player before i ever reinstall the game onto server. practice it in spare time or w.e , taking the save from the server via ftp with filezilla is simplish , its just knowing the file paths

[late estuary]

Just put this in my server and restarted - it works! Doesn't seem to be a generator limit now

[distant hearth]

thats great, thanks for letting me know

[languid plank]

still didnt work. im not sure what else to do about it.

[frigid vine]

Did you tried maybe the same with the feeding trough already? Specially for the range

[barren flume]

how do i do ini codes on nitrados site?

[distant hearth]

you shud have an option on the left hand side to view ini or maybe view config files? sry i cant be more specific i havent seen the asa setup for nitrado yet and i know its slighlty differnt to ase

[clear bronze]

Hey all of a sudden my Xbox friend can't join my server. Has there been any issues that have popped up recently?

[brittle stump]

Hey all, any thoughts on why a private server isn't showing up after a restart/update. I could see it before I shut it down. It look to be 32.15 and client is 32.32 but it's been mis matched alot lately lol

[brittle stump]

nvm, used the ark.useserverlist0 trick again and it showed up lol!

[clear bronze]

What is that?

[novel glacier]

hello all. probably a dumb question here, does anyone know the correct process to update the mod when its installed on a nitrado server? not sure if i just restart or if it auto updates? thanks

[distant hearth]

you will normally need to manually restart the server if a mod needs updating

[brittle stump]

no idea but it goes in the console line on the server search screen

worked last time there was a search issue

[novel glacier]

okay, thank you. wasnt sure if i needed to remove and reinstall or not

[distant hearth]

its a command line to change how the sevr page looks for servers basically

[clear bronze]

Huh, I can find my server perfectly fine but my friend on Xbox has no luck for some reason and I'm trying to figure out why.

Is there a way for console to use commands in the menu without ~?

[brittle stump]

I'm not sure sry

[distant hearth]

just to double check, u have xplay enabled with xbox, an its a dedicated server