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Oh, you get about 600-800 a month in donations to keep a full cluster of 70 slot servers running?
the hosted server is actually decent for the number of players.
Right, but the big question is clustering baked into our version of the dedicated servers, and for that we don't have an answer yet. No EULA or Press Release addresses it.
The partnership thing is a whole different argument to be made.
partnership was a necessary evil since Nitrado gave them 4 million and wiped out a million in debt
Ah, I see we found the Nitrado employee
have to sleep with the devil sometimes
yea think about heavily boosted servers when peeps get huge as tek walls and shit how much more of it its going to use its gonna start going up even more watch and see
if you have a full cluster of 70 slot and everyone that plays on your map donates the $6 minimum ammount you can donate, then yes.
because snail games gambled away 1,5b .....
who me? lol I don't work for them. I work for a very very large multinational corp.
yep
That's against EULA so be careful mentioning it
fuck the eula
I’m not about to pay for a server when I payed $1000 to build a server pc. I refuse to support this until it is fixed.
Good to see you brother, hopefully this shit show will clear up
EULA's are meant to be broken 🙂
I'm a realist. I don't expect it to lol
only $1,000 for a server. that is dirt cheap
Fuck the EULA
I mean I agree, I normally don't condone it, but in this case I'm fine with it. I'm just trying to protect your steam account because that's steam eula
You're always welcome back to Addicted if you wanna play some SE 😉
It was only supposed to be for friends
tbh the fact that wildcard allowed this to happen is insane if this game flops its all there fault they fucked server owners
Yeah, there is too much money to be made so im not hopeful either
kinda its a bit grey as it modifies the windows service that ASA uses rather than ASA itself
still that is cheap. can't be good hardware for that price. but to each their own 🙂
❤️
Yeah, idk how it will go, but given that it's steam that would ban you, it's risky
1000 USD is modern hardware go look at paint dry
I have never seen a server that cheap unless you are missing a zero.
Or other games
Can you tell I'm his recruiter LOL
It runs amazing. We don’t need a good graphics card so we use the onboard
its not against steams rules to my knowledge
For a lot of us self-hosters, our old gaming computer become our servers.
You're clearly from an impoverished country where prices are inflated. @slate ravine
I have an old HP Proliant in my rack downstairs
Haha, I think you recruited me back when I first played with yall actually
yeah I guess so. really if you get a cheap mobo and semi decent processor and ram you could probably do it
so @proven prawn what do u guys have to say about the subject this is serious and needs to be addressed
Probably lol. I recruit everyone LOL
lol love the generalization 🙂 been fun. you know what they say about assuming something
nice i have an old dell R720 in my rack
That's all you really need to host for a few friends.
Yeah, Idk where it would fall. I'm not gonna stop you by any means, just tried to give warning just incase
Huh the irony in the assumption department
idc i play single and official just wanted people to know it was out there (do with it what u want)

That's fair enough then
Well, figured out my problem, only assigned one core to my Ark server, oops
anywho back to the nitrado sucks convo
Best method to load in to a capped server????
find one not capped? lol
based o'clock
You don't
lol, i do min 2 cores to most of my linux vms
Fuck nitrado. We need a gif for this.
on it
I paid for a server till Sob3k gets his set up. I wanted an easy fix
I'm waiting.
Did they fix people joining unofficials and giving themselves admin?
a gif lmao, you cant even link to what someone said in this discord without it getting auto deleted
they are asking to be sued for false advertisement
What's really going to ruin the appeal for this game is the amount of money you need to spend now vs ase. Paid mods, forced paid servers, price for the updated game. I'm surprised they are giving us the dlc for free at 40$ when ase was 60$ with no dlc
steam has nothing to do with this. it is all Nitrado
it's all nitrado...steam has nothing to do with it
Yo-ho, yo-ho a Pirates life for me...
Why is wine so awful to use? I've been poking at trying to get asa server working in wine for too damn long.
Oh but there's tons of other discords to use it in 😄
because its not what they said on annoucement of the game
Best method to load in to a capped server????
technically it is. they just didn't elaborate on the fine print.
How do you get in a bus full of people? You ride on top
is ark ascended going to be on xbox gamepass⁉️⁉️⁉️❓
For all thoses that have a server running but can't see it in steam servers, i can help, sent me a PM
Prob what I'm going to do till it's all "fixed"
steam just enforces the publishers EULA
If it gets "fixed"
in there eyes its not broken so nothing to "fix"
What setting would help tools not need repaired so frequently?
not using them helps
This is true lol
Dinosaurs are your tools with no durability. You ever play ark?
Im saying is there any other way than sitting on server screen for 3 hours spamming join
Nope, usually unofficial servers have reserved slots for people but not official
thats why you go for refund through paypal or you cc company when steam says no
to fuck up your steam account....?
Steam bans you if u charge back until you pay them
Then get your steam account banned and lose all of your games?
You guy's don't have 1 steam account per game? amateurs. /s
Haha pro gamer move
For me as it stands 40$ isn't bad for a single player game. If it wasn't for the unexesarry self hosted issue it'd be a fun multiplayer game.
in case you have more than 2 i would recommend contacting steam support directly instead of a simple support ticket i have heard that can work if you explain issues such as performance
Nobody
Bro, I wouldn't play ark single player if it was the only game that existed
just popping in to say fuck nitrado
You'd probably lose unless you were rich lol. Most of the time they can just stall until you run out of money
I tried to send support an email, and got "this account is no longer monitored" I could not see a single way to get ahold of a human.
I mean you do you though, I wouldn't stop you lol
i have never tried to manually refund a game so sorry if i cant provide good examples but i have heard of people getting refunds with more than 2 hours when i direct contact with steam support so i just though it was worth mentioning
I would cheer you on going up against Steam, even if I didn't think you'd win. But if you did though...
anyone figure out how to get the taming rates/harvest rates etc verbage working?
Urge mod devs to not make mods it'll force wildcard to pay them or listen to them and allow self hosted
no problem... I wish i could find ANY way to get hold Steam that isn't some AI bot.
if i were you i would try to write a as detailed mail to the steam support as possible explaining why i would want a refund and hope for the best (i intentionally stopped playing at 1 hour 55 minutes in case i needed a refund)
#EndNitrado
Yeah, one of those pro boner lawyers
America in a nutshell
what is the command to kill all wild dinosaurs?
did that, returned as undeliverable. account is no longer monitored, but thanks for trying
yo im running 20 fps with a 3060 ti with lowest graphics anyone got a sulition
Clouds and fog, I can't remember the commands
Yeah, add 20 and maybe you'll get another 20 
well damn sorry i cant think of any better solutions was worth a shot tough
🍷 🥄
Fuck Nitrado, let people host their own dedicated clusters.
Lol, I can get about 100 fps on my 2080 super, but you're right it undoes everything they added
Fuck Nitrado; all my homies hate Nitrado
It's on unreal engine 5, it opens up possibilities for mod devs.
You can still have a good engine in a shitty car.
i was at 5.5 hours before Neds video woke me up to this bait and switch trick.. almost got my avatar designed... 😆
why is my unofficial server list not the same everytime
You can still try to get a refund. Just explain that you spent the time dealing with crashing and trying to get it to run at more than 10 FPS.
well nvm found a tutorial that might help will send it in dms
Now is the car really that shitty, or is the engine the real problem because the people's older transmissions won't ever be able to handle that engine anyway.
it makes it so awful to find the server i was playing on when i get kicked
thanks much, will have a look.
That's fair, you can try to be happy with what we have but we shouldn't be because we deserve more.
hopfully this is a good change Changelist #20875912 12 minutes ago · 27 October 2023 – 21:23:28 UTC Added this app to package Anonymous Dedicated Server Comp (17906) ChangeNumber – 20875073 › 20875912 This changelist affected 1 other packages.
I didn't come in with high expectations, I played Ark when it first came out lol, and I don't mind waiting, but it's hard to imagine that it's just the games unoptimized state is the only problem. Idk if the older graphics cards will ever be able to handle some of the UE5 stuff they are doing. So some people may just be boned.
good luck let me know if it works later
The game is actually better than ASE. Got in a fistfight with a ichty and won cause I could hit it.
With state of the art programs you need to meet it with hardware. Yes the game is unoptimized but atleast it can be fixed. So we can just hope it gets better. High settings are for good PCs
there is a petition on change dot org Stop hosting exclusivity for ARK XD
Link? Dm? I need to sign
dont know what branch its part of, could be branch for nitardo
Petition won't do anything. People just need to not renew their subscription for the server and starve Nitrado out
Yeah it doesn't specify which it's for
steamdb just list it as a change
It says it affected more than 1 package
public branch has not had an update in 12 hours
none of the branches have had an update yet last one was cachechecks 2 hours ago
hoping that's what i think it is. Not holding my breath until we get some official details though
same or till public branch gets an update and we can check it
Is the server config command to lock containers the same as it was in ase?
It just doesn't make sense to me, no self hosting + ability to charge for mods. Why would you pay for hosting AND mods.
same Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...OK Waiting for client config...OK Waiting for user info...OK Update state (0x3) reconfiguring, progress: 0.00 (0 / 0) Update state (0x3) reconfiguring, progress: 0.00 (0 / 0) Update state (0x61) downloading, progress: 0.25 (23068672 / 9213724273) Update state (0x61) downloading, progress: 0.80 (73885656 / 9213724273)
Also really want linux binaries. I hate running a windows server...
yeah same i got it downloading on my linux box, so not going to beable to see if it runs lmao
welp mobs dead
Okay do y’all’s ports appear to be closed but the server appears on your list?
Can you see me says my ports are closed but they appear in my list
Is there a linux server build now?
steamdb does not say linux yet, and the download is at 50% so wont know if there is linux binaires till its done
Ah.. Nitrado is having issues, so looking for other options...
So did anonymous dedicated get re-enabled?
its looking like it, its downloading for me with anonymous login
Uhh. My download is going through with anonymous atm
Im more concerned with starting the server up w/o credentials
Awesome, I hope it's intentional.
Darn. Still not Linux files tho lol
what issues is Nitrado having besides people hating them. my server is running great right now. knock on wood
I have one setup with my account, would I have to redownload to get it anonymous?
only Win64 binaries in it
with 70 people playing on it?
oh no I only have 26 spots
speaking for myself, I don't want to pay them $2400 a year for something I've been doing with ASE for years for basically free.
Anonymouse was removed 😦 (according to the changelog on steamdb)
I wouldnt expect Linux anytime soon. Think that will be like on the 3rd or 4th thing on list to get done.
Yeah mine was running great until it was in a restart loop. And rolling back doesn't have any effect. Enjoy every moment you still have 😛
I think it was 6+ months before ASE got linux binaries.
should just beable to change the steam command to use anonymous
Try restarting it and watch how you will have to wipe your whole server :)
Happened to a lot of people
mine was doing that last night but didn't have an issue today.
I’m guessing that means they rolled back the 1 person license limit
Dope I’ll give it try when I get home
whats the best way to host a server right now for a small group of like 5-6 ppl?
45 seconds ago · 27 October 2023 – 21:53:32 UTC
Removed this app from package Anonymous Dedicated Server Comp (17906)
ChangeNumber – 20876142 › 20876145
This changelist affected 1 other packages.```
that was short lived
What's that app ID?
And Anonymous was added back in 😄
This changelist affected 1 other packages.
41 seconds ago · 27 October 2023 – 21:54:13 UTC
Added this app to package Anonymous Dedicated Server Comp (17906)
lmao
shit what movements are happening now?!
Idk who cant decide what they are doing, but they need to stop messing with us
8 seconds ago · 27 October 2023 – 21:55:12 UTC
Removed this app from package Anonymous Dedicated Server Comp (17906)
ChangeNumber – 20876151 › 20876159
This changelist affected 1 other packages.``` and back out
garuntee it will change back lol
They could be editing the packages as its happening
Fingers crossed
That went back and forth multiple times lol
yeah it did
What does this change do? Is this the thing prohibiting clusters?
Started 33 minutes ago, let's you download without login
And now its gone again lmao
I really hate how you search for a guide and get clickbait articles that don't tell you how to do it or what the appid is
I’ll ask again Is the server config command to lock containers the same as it was in ase?
Don't know what it is yet
Gotcha
you can get the appid from steamdb, but its 2430930
If it using Anonymous login, it means it wouldnt be locked behind 1 account, 1 server
thanks. been a while since I installed it
What is the setting I need to change to have normal dinosaurs up to level 300?
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=10
Be crazy if they removed it again, so that they could add the requirement back lol
Although idk why that code would have been touched unless they were changing it to something else
the added it 3 times and removed it the same amout lmao
Multihome doesn't work so use netstat -b -n and shift your port pointer to whatever it happens to be listening on. It tends to bind to all adapters
looking for a good pve server ;}
We are waiting for you to make it for us bro
Yup I had the same issue. You need to add +1 port range to your port and query port
got it!
mine is about to go live. it's 3x XP, 5x Harvesting, 9x Tame.
I want a good 2x harvest pve server I want it to be slow lol
Anyone know the script line in the game.ini file that controls Harvest Yield?
no cuz it goes in the gameusersettings.ini
its the same one from ASE
ok when I try to do an app_update logged in as anonymous it says no subscription again
I plan on making a vanilla 2x harvest server once the self hosted shit is ready
Same configuration as original game files
you have to log into steam to download the dedicated server Syphen
And its back on again! lmao
someone said they changed it to anonymous a few mins ago
Yeah they removed the package, whatever package they added let you download it anonymously
Anyone having issues with maturation? It's not going up at all, and I cant feed the babies either
orly
lmao
All I can say, if they actually follow through with this, they will win back alot of players
Try it now, you should be able to anonymous
Believe maturation is bugged. But thats with settings. Its super low even though I set it max on my dedi server
I just did and it said no subscription
Weird, they may have added the requirement back in. Those engineers crazy bro
it keeps going back and forth lol
yeah, i still wont buy it till they make the linux binaries
unless someone gave me the wrong app id
hmm weird seems like other ppl aree not having issues? might be case by case
Yeah it is apparently
yo-yo mode achieved lmao
try 20876234 (I don't know what any of this means lol)
Yeah I think that's the server app id
shrug. I had to log in to download it
appid was right they keep on changing it
that sucks. me and @obtuse sedge have 3 bbys trying to grow up
or this is it 2430930, I really have no idea
I would have to go look again, let me get on pc
12 seconds ago · 27 October 2023 – 22:08:45 UTC
Removed this app from package Anonymous Dedicated Server Comp (17906)
ChangeNumber – 20876234 › 20876324
This changelist affected 1 other packages.```
removed again
there you go
it says it was added back right after 😂
Hahaha, bro they have to be getting errors and trying to fix them
Its taken us almost all day to raise 1 trike -.- even when dedi settings are on max 5 for maturation XD
ChangeNumber – 20876324 › 20876326
This changelist affected 1 other packages.
55 seconds ago · 27 October 2023 – 22:08:56 UTC
Added this app to package Anonymous Dedicated Server Comp (17906)
edit the number
while we have been talking 2 of the babys almost died
Locking containers too?
I did
same lmao
probably, I've only tested the ones I've used (I just copied my ini over lol)
did anyone get MultiHome working?
I just want to know what they are doing, whether they keep breaking it or what lol
Well if they can lock then yay
probably just wait a couple hours for when they decide to stop messing with it
is there a way to cap health to a certain number and let the rest of the stats go as high as they want? had a atlas server that did that before so im curious.
I am between finding it hillarious and finding it irritating. I think I am just going to go get sleep. I've been working on this crap for almost 24 hours straight.
download the dedicated server Anonymous, nope login to download it, nope Anonymous, nope login........ they cant make up there mind lmao
I mean there is no telling how long what they are doing could take, that's just how it is doing that
I just hope this is for the better.
Can we add a kill all Dino’s command on server restart with Nitrado? Went through ini settings and don’t see anything. The way they decided to remove so many options is dumb.
fairly sure that was a launch option for ASE.
Yeah it was but not on ASA.
so can we host clusters now?
no one knows
I've heard nitrado removed a bunch of stuff, doesn't mean it doesn't work 
fuck nitrado
Also try to move some setting from gus to game.ini if they dont work, some of the settings worked for me that way
and some options just aren't working right now, like non-dedi tether
I think speed leveling also isn't working
Works for me
flyer speed as well? heard issues with that one
Yeah I have tried some of the original commands and some work some don’t. Best thing is to set settings up in single player and copy files over to Nitrado. When I tried the kill Dino’s command I’m getting a error and still only have 40 Dino’s across the island it seems like. Nothing is spawning. Lol
flyer speed doesn't seem to work for me
yes workes for me Im pretty sure, just logged out so cant really remember
People who has been able to run the dedicated server, are you on windows server or another os?
they been yo-yoing it
Also, anyone has been able to use mods in dedicated server? ActiveMods doesn't work now
it's windows only right now.
Yep but windows server or a normal windows os?
Are they trying to make it where we cant host im guessing?
windows any windows but I took mien down to update earlier and have not been able to get my back up and @violet dawn I have been working on trying to get modsall day
I'm on windows OS but both should work 
F, it's strange because in nitrado the "ActiveMods" setting isn't in gus or game.ini, seems to work differently as ASE, but I cant spy other nitrado folders for info :(
2430931 is the dedicated server right?
Just don’t buy into nitrado.
Okey I take it back flyer doesnt work
no its 2430930
not sure Im not useing nitrado they can piss off. I have my own box im hosting on
2430931 is also the dedicated server according to steamdb
app_update 2430930 validate @ruby pewter
Everyone who buys nitrado gets the pin of shame
I had credit from years ago and rented 3 days servers just to spy their configs and port them over to my dedicated xD
since there is not an official hardcore server. we rented one open to the public
UnOfficial with Official Settings:
NA-PVP-Hardcore-TheIsland01
i get No app was found matching this AppID. when i look for that id in steamdb
smart smart lmk how that goes
But mods seem to work completly different from ASE to ASA
hardcore pvp? damn thats rough
am i looking at wrong place or did EULA change?
And we haven't gotten any official documentation on how to actually modify dedicated servers so no info about modding them 🤡
it changed its now ```By using this Software (ARK Survival Ascended Dedicated Server, the “Application”), you agree to the following:
The Application is intended and allowed for Personal Use only. Running the Application for Commercial Purposes is not allowed. Commercial Purposes includes any revenue generated by operation of the Application which exceeds Application operational costs or tipping.```
Yeah the bing chat gpt ai told me to install the mods in single player then drop the folder in my server so i tried that havent been able to get my server back up today, blown it away and rebuilt it like 4 times now
5157 is down
Don’t have much of a option otherwise I wouldn’t 😂
with the EULA change looks like Anonymous download is here to stay (if they dont change it again)
any help on how to set up an auto clicker???
So, what, can people start hosting Clusters now with that wording?
Well maybe someone figures it out and shares the info with us, or the actual developers make a guide about how to actually use the product we have bought already, but the second one sounds like fantasy to me tbh
Sure you do, wait a week or so until this whole mess clears up
probably not clusters yet since even nitrado doesn't support that, might not even be a thing in the game yet
no one knows how clusters are going to work, or if the steam dedicated will support it or if that will be only a nirtardo thing
unfortunatly i agree
If that becomes a "nitrado" thing half of discord will burn wildcard/snail down, myself included
server with good rates and no wipe
let me install server files under Anonymous
agreed, but till we get the next map who knows what they going to do
ye we will have to wait for scorched to drop and hope for the best
Can players install files under Anonymous currently? Has that changed from yesterday?
yes like 4 times
yes that has changed since yesterday
Apparently you can download anonymously now
It jsut let me do it
Oh that's actually a good change. Strange, and unexpected.
they updated the EULA also to reflect that
dose anyone have same problem as me running 15 fps with lowest graphics possible im on a 3060 ti
can you run multiple servers or still only one?
#FreeASADedicatedServers
So the EULA has been updated, you can now install anonymously...but you need Steam open and its still tied to the account usage to limit you to one per account/purchase of ASA? Am I getting that correct?
yeah but you can put that in Anonymous also
With all the hate they were getting (earned tho) I was expecting something like that tbh, literally everyone has turn against nitrado xD
last patch of public branch was 13h ago so that might change but who knows
new EULA nothing about needing an account with the game to run it ```By using this Software (ARK Survival Ascended Dedicated Server, the “Application”), you agree to the following:
The Application is intended and allowed for Personal Use only. Running the Application for Commercial Purposes is not allowed. Commercial Purposes includes any revenue generated by operation of the Application which exceeds Application operational costs or tipping.```
But they haven't even announced the DedServ files publicly, either, so who bloody knows, lol.
And how exactly are they actually monitor if server owners are earning money from their servers lol
Not sure i just unistalled client steam, currently when I launch my bat file it opens and isntaltly closes with no errors. Anyone know the command for removing the new CMD to use the built in windows one instead
who knows lmao
The new Eula is fine, I literally just wanna host a vanilla and modded server for anyone to join and my friends
Anyone running it on proxmox? I get a kernel DLL crash
It's not like a nitrado employee going one by one checking bank accounts and paypal stuff xd
"Oh no, no, I don't charge people to play on my server. I charge people to get DISCORD permissions, that just HAPPEN to have server connection info. Totally not the same!" >...>
Amp is based
way i read the EULA that would not work as you can collect money to pay for the cost to run it
yes new eula seems to allow the collection of money to cover hosting cots
old one did also, only change is the needing an copy of the game and one server per copy/account
It did that already, the main thing that was changed was the steam account requirement
Based is a good thing
It’s only $2000 for the whole year 💀🤌🏽🤦🏽♂️
That's okay, you're based. 😎
"No mr.nitrado Im not charging for the ark server, Im charging for discord permissions and emojis" lol
TELL ME I'm wrong! lol
I tried to use pterodactyl it was just too confusing so I'm waiting for asm to release an asa version
yes mr nitrado im charging for the ark server, i am not making a profit it all goes to the cost of running it
The dev for ASM is no longer with the product, as much as I would love to have ASM for ASA I don't see it happening.
I'm sure the beacon people will take the lead and charge us
Does anyone know how to change difficulty of server? I'm not sure what file to put the settings in, or even what the settings are. I want normal dinosaurs to go up to level 300
I can try to take a look if you want
i never used ASM i ran my ASE cluster on linux, i made an ansible playbook to install and admin the servers
@violet dawn any update on mods? im reinstalling steam on my server box checking if a log in is still required
yeah i didnt mess with docker, i had each server in its own VM on my esxi box
I’ve been looking into this a bit, I’ve never used ansible before but do you think using Kubernetes instead would accomplish the same thing (or both at the same time, I’m kinda new to it)
Proxmox really isn’t the problem. I don’t think. The game downloads fine. I have steam running. When I go to launch the bat file I get the server console screen for about 6 seconds then I get a crash log of. [CrashReportClient]
bHideLogFilesOption=false
bIsAllowedToCloseWithoutSending=true
CrashConfigPurgeDays=2
Not really Its midnight rn where I live so im probably going to bed and deal with it tomorrow, It has been a busy day fighting the configs xD
In the crash dump it references kernel DLL
I was able to download the server files but I'm getting failure no license when I try to start it
could prob do it, but ansible and kubernetes are two differnt things
Way different. 🙂
Well yes, I guess what I am asking if it’s a one or the other type thing or you could use both. Trying to figure out the most efficient way to run many many game servers
So you're able to install the program via SteamCMD via Anonymous, but you can't run the program without Steam open and logged in? ....What's the point of that?
alr sounds good get some rest m8
Ansible will help you build them out.
EULA is changed and we can download now the server version with steam cmd , but trying to run it still miss the license.
might still need wait for files update, who knows what they have in there
same thing here
That is correct, download, install anonymous, but cannot run it without a license.
i dont use Kubernets i tried it once and it used more resorces then my docker swarm set up uses so i stopped using it, and my game servers i dont run as docker images, i run them in there own linux vm
So if the EULA changed and the Anonymous flag was added, maybe they understood they screwed up.
Or, worse, we've all been upset and it was like that to prevent NDA stuff or something
just switch steam to offline mode before launching the server. currently running server with my account and playing on another pc with the same
you try having the steam client open and not logged in
If we get linux binaries, and the ability to self host properly. Proxmox and LXC containers work great.
Well that's just....special. Wake me up when they allow anonymous run and we get an actual ASM-like program from the Community. What a joke this release has been.
On my server I have my max level set to 210 and my supply crate loot quality set to 5.0 but the loot I get is way too op. What value should I put it to make it balanced?
Does anyone know how to change difficulty of server? I'm not sure what file to put the settings in, or even what the settings are. I want normal dinosaurs to go up to level 300. I can't even get it to work on a LAN server... wtf
no joy. open but not logged in just exited immediately.
well public realeses not just touched, so maybe if they update the public ones we might have a way with out license or somthing, nothing confirmed
might be a check in the binary hopefully they remove it when they update the server, it has not had an update in 12 hours
yeah, last unoff_beta was touched just slighlty after they added it to anonymous so might be that
but there are many changes on the test branches
Very well could be. I do not currently own the game, and have no intention of actualy hosting unless i buy it, but if they clean this mess up I will certainly buy it.
DifficultyOffset=10.0 in Gus worked for me
That’s a thing? XD
i dont own it either, and all my vms are linux so i wont buy it till i can run it on linux. im not installing a windows vm on my box
always has been but didn't do anything in ASE, it does now
anyone know why I would be getting this when launching server with the bat file. Application load error 6:00000065432
you need to have the steam client installed and logged into your account for licsence verification
wierd have it logged in but still gives me that
what is gus? oh, GameUserSettings
Gameusersetting.ini
How do I know what server settings go in Game.ini vs. GameUserSettings.ini?
look at ASE server guide for the config I think it's the same
Anyone have any luck with ORP?
Anyone have random lag on their servers?
Any suggestions on settings to help it?
Copied over my settings from ASE and no dice.
Where is taming speed setting on ark ascended?
how long after starting the server should it take to show on the server list?
nm I was on favorites instead of unofficial
Anyone else watching NeddyTheNoodle's live stream on YouTube right now? He started about ten minutes ago.
Anyone know why this setting isn't increasing the dino weight at all on my server? It stays vanilla no matter the number. I have this in the game.ini
PerLevelStatsMultiplier_DinoTamed_Add[7]=50.0
yes
\ShooterGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer\GameUserSettings.ini -> [ServerSettings]
...
TamingSpeedMultiplier=X.XX
Is it normal ? I can't see who's online in the server...
I started the server to generate initial configs, then a local non-dedicated server, then edited/copied those over. Got most of the settings. Many but not all are the same from ASE
any one know what this is? wp.Runtime.HLOD = "1"
NeddyTheNoodle earns money from G-Portal afil links.. so he was salty he will lose income!
I used a local, non-dedicated server to generate the initial list of settings for both files. INote, I found the server needed to be shutdown before I edited the files.
he should be salty
And? He's one guy, but let's be honest with ourselves - when has a monopoly ever been good for the consumer base?
i mean, probably, doesn't make this entire situation any better, hopefully when public branch gets updated everything will work like it should've from the beginning
In \ShooterGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer\GameUserSettings.ini ->
[ServerSettings]
DifficultyOffset=1.5714
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=6
I host my own server but Nitrado has a good guide: server.nitrado.net/en-US/guides/ark-survival-ascended-difficulty-level-server-guide
For 300 use:
[ServerSettings]
DifficultyOffset=2.7142
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=10
anyone know how the new player id converts to steam id
Is there any way to enabled or buff character speed on a Nitrado server with ASA?
Damn that announcement nice
Oh hell yeah
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
That's....interesting.
wonder what Nitrado's excuse for their ridiculous pricing will be now, they used RAM as an excuse before
That announcement feels like good tidjngs for this channel. 6gb reduction (40%) is wild.
So true.
So with those Patch Notes, can we get someone to check that we can launch without Steam login?
branch has not been updated yet
so dont think it will work yet
i will do that now
The 6gb reduction is dope as hell, am I understanding the removal of the DRM resulting in the fact that we don't have to fluff around with different computers and accounts anymore when making our own dedis?
yessssssss
yep we can have multi servers againn
You read my mind. They need to go down 40% in price. Otherwise they are pooping into theyr own mouth.
@proven prawn If that patch notes for the server is what I think it is, thank you guys so much for actually listening. ❤️
You guys can't help but keep messing up more can't you? What in the actual fawk are you doing? Are you actually trying to delete your playerbase? Might as well just take the game off store and proper test it before you release. What the fawk.
YES. WILDCARD GREW SOME BALLS
I feel like indefinite pooping is more a feature than bug though.
wow they actually listened to the community.. shocking!
The update has potentially fixed a MAAAAAAAAAJOR issue, calm down maybe.
god i hope this means the server hosting is just liek ASE. hosting clusters in that game has been easy
can we put mods on them yet though
I am just wondering, how you suddenly can optimies the server to take 6GB less... like realy, what was changed exactly.
could've updated depot before patch notes though lmao
Its literally an early release, it says if you arent ready to deal with bugs wait for the full version release
do we need a new appid for it now or can we still use 2430930?
wheres this announcement i missed?
Check patch notes pc.
they did patch notes before updating the branch
steamdb eula update too
use the same just updated with anonymous login
so guessing patch isnt up yet then ?
thanks
oh im dum i was looking in announcements 😛 and thanks @snow thunder
wait can we make our own ded servers now?
do you have high harvest rates?
Potentially a lot of stuff can contribute to that. I assume the goal was to release in Oct so needed to refactor the code base. Likely just keeping too much in memory that was not needed. Getting customer data was likely the key
Does this mean that we can finally host our own servers, like we could with Ark server manager?
- Steam DRM has been disabled for the ARK: Survival Ascended Dedicated Server & Anonymous Depot has been available
I'm still waiting for the Crunch, and want to confirm that we now have DRM removal for running the server program, not just the install.
anyone able to get the dedi server files to update?
Yes, for ~40 hours now
@white garnet You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable ones here that I've seen, am I correct in we don't have to use seperate PC's/accounts anymore and no need for offline mode stuff anymore?
it literally says that, we just have to wait for files patch because for some reason they released patch notes before updating public branch
Am i reading the patch notes right... clusters are back for self hosting?
correct
Yes!!!!
nothing about clusters in there
An early release lmao? The game is out since 2015. All they had to do is copy and paste the code and ask chatgpt to translate to 5.2. Nothing more nothing less.
damn this server is chaos
according to theory that should be the case, we should be able to run server and game at the same time regardless of offline mode and also we should be able to run multiple servers as a cluster
30 minute cooldown in general jesus
steam drm disabled?
to a certain extent yes, but they also didnt have to release it yet. They gave us access. If its so easy maybe you should join the development team, show them your coding skills.
yup
im able to connect Anon to do the update.
what is the default difficulty for an Ark server? I dont see the settings in the settings ini file
lets go bby
someone cracked it already even though it aint worth the pirate
LOL i wish it would be that easy
The only sad thing is, we wont get Ark Server Manager for ASA as the dev stepped down. So, yeah... maybe somebody can make a similar tool with the time
the crack was there even before asa lanuched lmao. it was crackable with steamless
Where is the fking transparency, where is the fking honesty? Where is the live stream to introduce the Dev team and tell us about the "new" ark? All they do is excuses after excuses and delay after delay. Realese a trailer on Xbox community only to realese it on pc. Worste company EVER.
I'm hoping someone else will make one
and everyone was goin nuts about how ASA was a scam and big evil corporation was just doing a massive cash grab because they couldnt run the server and game at the same time... except they could and the DRM was just an oversight, kinda like i said yesterday
My PC’s motherboard set on fire and it’s completely fried. I’m still in disbelief. Don’t try to play below the minimum specs. Edit- Probably also a combination of my old wires behind the desk too but still.
WARNING be careful
where is using a proper chat for correct things?!
and it shouldve been free as an option
Then why are you still here?
hey all the chats are shitty rn
I'm willing to bet they don't change it, and they say nothing.
i can do steam anon to patch, but the update isnt pushed yet, still Steam DRM on the exe.
Do you still not realize it's a money grab?
I haven't set a board on fire since the Athlon 64 came out. How did you manage?
Steam DRM has been disabled for the ARK: Survival Ascended Dedicated Server & Anonymous Depot has been made available bout fin time
Oh damn, I didn’t realize that… yea, hopefully someone can make something similar
heck yeah
Lol your funny, Wildcard Studio never done that, when Ark first got release, there was no ads about the game or anything they drop a trailer and launch game (sure they where Indie studio at the time) but it's how they do things, they don't need follow other studios and company.
sorry i forgot to check the other games in my library that have 6k plus hrs. Indeed your right years of enjoyment horrible horrible ( sarcasm )
Every single product you consume is a money grab. Something being a money grab doesn't mean what you think it is. Move to the correct channel doofus.
do you not realize that if you dont want to buy a product that you're not forced to?
also another question, i saw that nitrado had the rights to ALL ark game in regards to hosting.
is unofficial ASE servers still a thing or did they got shut down as well?
Me too, I can kinda code, basic stuff but not sure...would take me too long to do 😄 But honestly, that tool have so many features that make managing clusters a cakewalk. Especialy the discord bot, my family can start/stop server on demand from my ASE cluster as I do not have enough RAM to have all maps running at the same time 🙂 So... yeah.
My game froze after rendering too much and as soon as the black smoke came out from the fans I force shut down windows. But my PC won’t turn on anymore , it literally set on fire
I do, that's why pc is paying to be beta testing for Xbox. Brilliant move. Normally U get payed to find bugs.
Ah, yes, beta testing, for a completely different infrastructure, makes sense.
first off beta testing on a pre-purchased game has been a thing for 2 decades, welcome to gaming... secondly, i chose to buy the game, if you dont want to buy the game then fuck off
Do we know system specs recommend for running a dedicated server? Is it the same as ASE?
Unofficial is still a thing 🙂 And as per the latest update potentially in a very good place.
North bridge is fuggin gone bro. Wow lol. Complain to the board manufacturer, safeguards should be in place to prevent fire hazards. Probably a defective board.
it's not, assuming their "lowering ram use by 6GB" is correct it would be about 2 times higher
bro, the xbox runs also directX..... thats literally where the x comes from
Lmao. Are U a new gamer? No it has not been a thing for 2 decades. Up until this day you hlget payed to beta test. If you don't wanna see that, you are clearly lying to yourself. But whatever makes you sleep at night princess
My beef with that program is it would take 5+ minutes to save settings.
It’s old and my wires didn’t help. I’m still in shock and just pondering what happened. I just want others to know so hopefully their PC’s don’t set on fire too when playing
That's..not..uh..relevant.
you're a complete idiot if you think this is a new thing... lol i sleep very well at night thank you. you're sitting over here raging at a game though
Oh thank god ram reductions lmao
Are people still having port issues?
Yes, sometimes it takes longer to save profies. But usualy when You set up the map, you dont change them that often anyway.
What about CPU? Is it double too?
unfortunately yes
new non-drm version same appid number?
Yeah they just switched it off
dammit alright, thanks
So since nitrados excuse was ram, we should see those min slots come down right?? Lol
I hope someone make's a server management program like from long time ago.
nope 🤑
anyone got the update yet?
is there somewhere with info on ini settings? trying to change breeding rates and the old ini code doesn't seem to work
Game.ini
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=0.25
MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.01
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=50
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=55
is what I have but argy still has a 3+ hour breeding CD, am I missing something?
In a beautiful world that would be the case, it won't though.
Don’t think it was ever said, we just assumed based on self hosted usage
When you're troubleshooting settings it's a literal nightmare of waiting. 🤣
No, they definitely said it.
hey guys, are wild baby dinos supposed to mature too fast to fully imprint on? or did my server come with some weird rates
ARK: Survival Ascended pushes the limits of hardware with overhauled Unreal Engine 5 graphics, dynamic water and interactive foliage! As a result, running ARK: Survival Ascended game servers requires a lot of memory (14-16 GB), and especially compared to ARK: Survival Evolved game servers (5-6 GB), it is around 3x higher. The high server hardware requirements lead to higher pricing on our end and is reflected in the required 26 minimum slots. Unfortunately, there is nothing Nitrado can do about the high RAM consumption and the corresponding minimum slots, but we will constantly evaluate the required minimum slots based on the RAM consumption.
I'm actually amazed right now. First off I'm glad your house is still in place. But overclock protection has been built in to pretty much any board for the past 10 + years. Even if you werent overclocking it should have caught the temperature spike and amp draw overload and shut down. Even if it's old you should harass the manufacturer, they might throw you a new one, or an upgrade. That shit isnt supposed to happen anymore lol
Yo guys did we win??! last update
there's definitely some wonkiness with imprinting times
Make sure you put those settings under [/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameMode] in game.ini
We seem to have, at least this channel won our battle.
In what world am I raging? I'm clearly pointing out this is a scam team. They made 1.5bil and used it up on a failed ev company. Now they are moneygrabbing to fund ark2. This is my favourite game of all time, it's just the company behind it that keeps screwing up time and time again. All they had to do is host a Livestream and be transparent and honest to the costumers. But no, they released the trailer on Xbox platforms to release it for PC. Worst decision ever.
LET'S GOoOOOoO
any idea if it's with all baby dinos? or just wild ones?
Wait, win what? Do we have private clusters again?
Is there a setting to slow down dino torpor drain?
Linux support for dedicated servers out yet?
You're mixing up snail and wildcard.
General rule of thumb for imprint is if it’s x10 speed your imprint needs to be.1
it's just you can install server anonymously for now, nothing say more
Waiting for Neddy the Noodles reaction to this news now
Anyone tried using ASM to manage Ascended?
It's a start for sure
I am not an expert but I believe the algorithm is
DifficultyOffset=1
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=(max level/30)
I am going to change mine and do a cheat DestroyWildDinos to confirm
he is reacting right now on stream, bro's happy
He's livestreaming now
I didn't change any of the breeding rates it came with, maybe they came funny. I'll try mess with them, thanks
What do You mean troubleshooting? I usualy dont have problems the settings to not work. When I first started using it, 90% of my confusion was not understanding the settings and their implementation in server correctly. 🙂 But I know what You mean. It is and old app, which is good and bad at the same time. So Yea...
oooooooooo I must findi t
He's been covering it live, best advice I've seen is to wait for the Crunch this evening (roughly 15minutes from now).
in the world where you said, and i quote "Where is the fking transparency, where is the fking honesty? Where is the live stream to introduce the Dev team and tell us about the "new" ark? All they do is excuses after excuses and delay after delay."
its pretty great lol, however does anyone got their server to run with out steam client yet?
don't think so, my goofy internet doesn't allow me
when update files? 😢
Working on reinstalling my test server now
Check the Nitrado site, its right there. Cant link here
havent been able to get the update yet lol
anyone got the update yet?
they haven't updated the dedicated server app yet
Oh, didn't know but thanks
Has anyone managed to actually host a private server yet now? I got one up earlier but can't see it on the server list
yeah. still same version.
Mine is, yes
Yeah mine's been running.
Ditto
Im able to DL the server files Anon
yeah i dont see mine in the list untill i type in part of the name in the search bar even while having it under favs
Yeah mines been running but not everyone can see it in the server list, two people specifically
So we happy now can host multiple?
No problem. Hope they lower their pricing now. They say they might when ram requirements go down
anyone know how to get damage numbers to display?
youre looking on the in game server list and have ports forwarded?
Interesting ok guess I'll keep trying
ShowFloatingDamageText=True in GameUserSettings
thanks 😄
So no arguments on your side, just another copy and paste.if you read chat it speaks for itself. Have a good day btw 😊 kisses
Has anyone gotten a connectable self-hosted server running on Windows Server 2022?
has anyone gotten ORP working on asa yet
Can anyone please confirm what the difference is between PerLevelStatsMultiplier_DinoTamed and PerLevelStatsMultiplier_DinoTamed_Add and PerLevelStatsMultiplier_DinoTamed_Affinity?
have you tried connecting through console?
Nothing beats 0$ costs running it in the garage on old PC with 64GB ram and electricity covered by solar, no extra cooling needed 🙂
My server setup keeps my house nice and warm during the winter months, and its definitely cheaper than baseboard heating! 😄
hey thats a good idea i should put my server in the garage now that its cold out lol
how big of a panel did you get for that?
Console from the client?
For sure, i just hope they get less money and start charging normal rates now. Not everyone is tech savvy enough
yeah, console command open ip:port
any one have in an issue that dino disappear right away when killed wild
Did the update drop yet or is it still waiting to upload?
server update dropped
1st is the stats of wild per level, 2nd is the taming bonus and 3rd is the bonus added to stats when you level them when they are your Dino
steam db still says public 12551683 14 hours ago
so this change means in return that while, nitrado is the only host, you could still just rent a server and setup an dedicated like before? So there might be an ASA Server Manager soon too?
Yeah thats what im going by, but getting contradicting comments
No extra panels needed. I have solar on house anyway. The PC I am running the family server on use around 50-70W max during load. So it is nothing.
I haven't tried that... where and how does that work? Do I join a random server first or just single player or somewhere else?
genius
what’s with the lack of server providers? With people telling me that it’ll be cross play (I pc and my bf is ps5) I seen gportal aren’t a server provider for asa? If we play pc/ps5 together would I also be able to play ps5 if my beefy laptop can’t handle? (It played ase in med to high before I upgraded my ram n it currently can play bg3 in ultra)
any one have in an issue that dino disappear right away when killed wild
Are you still there bro? Or you actually taking in the chat with all the complaints?
Hopefully! I like "ASM Ascended" more 🤣
should be able to use it anywhere, main menu or in game, just put open ip:port in console. not sure 100% if it works though cause my friend was getting timing out issues when he used it
What kind of CPU would i need for a small, say ten slot, server rig?
internal IP or public IP for the console command?
nitardo has exclusive rights for being server host provider for 3-7 years (no one is sure on how many years)
@west nimbus the laptop could probably do it on lower graphics settings
"v25.18 - 10/27/2023 - Minor version for servers" how much time to be available @proven prawn
nitrado only, except you self host apperently.... the last one is still being discussed, bc wildcard just took a step back from the nitrado frick
Please take on consideration that I have10k hours on ase. Once you get 5k. We can talk again, please let me know
I think with my ram upgrade it would play ase on high considering it plays bg3 on ultra with no issues since ram upgrade. But could I play with my bf on ps5 now? I’m okay being unmodded to just play with him he doesn’t have a pc
Ok ill try that thank you!!
they never said with ASE, what makes you think they will say for ASA?? 🤣
I still don't have the update
Does anyone know if there is a code/string to add into the ini file to allow for a greater player carry weight? I looked in both the game.ini and the gameusersettings.ini and didn't see anything.
"Pursuant to the Cooperation Agreement, the Company agreed, among other things, for the period commencing on the date of the Cooperation Agreement and ending on the expiration of the seven (7) year anniversary, to grant Marbis the exclusive, non-transferable, global, and irrevocable (i) right to (A) provide the Company with official servers to host and run the games titled “Ark: Survival Evolved” (“ARK SE”), “Ark: Survival Ascended” (“Ark SA”) and “Ark II” (“Ark 2”, together with Ark SA, Ark II" + a bunch of other legal garbage
ugh I don’t like nitrado customer service but ty for fast response
Get bent, Nitrado
Wait. They only have irrevocable rights to provide Wildcard with Official servers? Wait. Wait wait wait. Does that mean they've opened the door for other server hosting services?!
nah that was the bunch of other legal garbage
bro youre still on that? let it go man...
when was that agreement made, we could be a year+ in already on the 7
70 watt ark serveR? X Doubt
july 26th, 2023
wheres this from?
PerLevelStatsMultiplier_Player[7], like in ASE
But gportal and such can still provide ase servers so confused?
the whole contract terminates when they are paid in full
So 31st of October, if the debt plan was followed
Thank you so much 🙂
thats also covered in the rest of the legal garbage, "(but specifically excluding the servers which continue to host Ark SE in its current version, which shall be governed by Section 6.2 of the Cooperation Agreement)"
Yeah the Steam EULA probably blocks others from launching servers, pursuant to the "can't make money off of" bits. Damn,.
Well I kinda presumed we were in the middle of a conversation. Lol.
get rid of swamp aids
You literally just told the dude you had more gamerTM hours than him so his opinions were invalid, that's not a conversation.
“Unfortunately, due to the existing exclusivity agreement around ARK: Survival Ascended, we are currently unable to provide you with the best game experience that you are used to. However, we will of course continue to be your partner for #ark-survival-ascendedSurvivalEvolved.” You sure on that no still?
ok i guess i'm not allowed to share that ducument lol
Did they open up anonymous install?
not yet but it looks like it'll release in a while
yes they did
yes, evolved is not ascended....
It's working now I just kicked off an install
yes we are waiting for the update to push
install yes, running not till its updated
anyone elses Nitrado server stuck in a boot loop with the new update?
I said ase not asa
Actually they can it says up to server costs and “tipping”
the earliest the contract could end is Nov 5
yes 3 times in the past 2 years, their servers are terrible
Yeah but that would still stop groups like GPortal from hosting unofficial servers since they wouldn't simply be operating "at cost".
beleive this has to do with the new update they rolled out directly, im not seeing 1 unoffical server with the new server version
No I didn't, I asked him to take in consideration that I have had 10k hours.
OH... easy missread, so yes 😄
with the new update can we now host and play on the same machine?
Oh yea for sure, but it allows like self hosted public clusters that allow donations
''Once you get 5k, come back.''
Just stop dude, you're embarrassing yourself.
they didn't change the appID for 2430930 right?
Here's hoping! Still waiting for the spicy Crunch shortly.
for the price of gportal was good customer service n very open when there’s issues in their end. Always had great service with them so im a little peed
Lol.
https ://steamdb.info/app/2430930/config/ lets you check the update times, to figure out when it gets updated.
Niiice like those patch notes
should have just left it at kisses my dude, now you just look like a child
Still no linux binaries ?
is there a Linux binary too ?
I found out, the server actualy do not use that much of CPU if You mainly have only couple maps running at the same time and You have only kids/family friends playing (usualy around 7-12 players on at the same time). So I used old I3 which, yes, is under load when the guys are playing, but server lags are occasional, and maxed out the RAM slots on board, sticked one SSD, and it realy have low power consumption.
internal if your client is behind the firewall.
note you need to port forward UDP/TCP 7177-7178 and 27115 for this launch command:
ArkAscendedServer.exe" "TheIsland_WP?SessionName=<ServerName>?MaxPlayers=30?listen?ServerPassword=<password>?MultiHome=<publicIP>?Port=7177?QueryPort=27115?" -NoBattlEye
I will lock down TCP once I confirm it is not needed. My client is connecting with UDP but I think the QueryPort might be TCP.
dont look like it, still says Supported Systems Windows
meh
I heard that Steam DRM on the server has been disabled, but Steam still starts up when I try to start ArkAscendedServer.exe from bat. Can it be avoided?
public branch also still has not been update, last time was 14 hours ago
has anyone figured out the ini code for baby mature speed? We put in BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=10 but it doesnt seem to be working
server has not been updated since they said that
its working for me, using the same one as ASE
okay, and you just put in the gameusersettings ini?
goes in game.ini
oh okay
need to wait till they drop v25.18 to public branch, version now still has drm in binary
I see, I don't know why it was announced when it wasn't made public, but thank you. I'll check again tomorrow
Anyone know eta on v25.18 to unofficials?
its normal, they always announce before updating public branch
they did it every time with ASE announce, update offical, then some hours later update public
dumb question, where are the patch notes?
Anyone have the how-to for steamcmd ark update?
When those of you that changed your .ini files and had to log in as a single player game to get your game.ini file to popluate, and then copied it over into the nitrado system, did you also get a section at the bottom (on line 130) that says "[ShooterGameMode_TEMPOverrides]"? And do we need to keep that section? It seems for me to get any change to take place, I have to make changes to both the top part that is titled just "[/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameMode]" as well as that Tempoverride section.
Anyone here know how to enable admin coimmands on an unofficial server, and then destroy all wild dinos, in Ascended?
I've seen a lot of day one vets that have channels. That have said numerous things. I just want to get some clarity. What is this issue I keep hearing about Nintrado and is it true? The fact that they would want to charge a yearly subscription. Or make it physically impossible for people to use that engine. I'm just curious to what exactly is going on. Is there going to be a possibility of us to use Nintrado on Ark survival ascended or no? That and does anyone have any recommendations. On how to download and use mods on console for Ark survival evolved? I have so many questions. But I have not been able to ask or haven't found the correct people to ask.
@hushed wedge same way as ASE have an admin password set, use enablecheats password, then cheat destroywilddinos
Not [Tab] button in game but [`] button above it
Will the new server branch have strings attached commercial impact or are we still back to square one? It's all or nothing.
new EULA ```By using this Software (ARK Survival Ascended Dedicated Server, the “Application”), you agree to the following:
The Application is intended and allowed for Personal Use only. Running the Application for Commercial Purposes is not allowed. Commercial Purposes includes any revenue generated by operation of the Application which exceeds Application operational costs or tipping.```
are linux server files out yet?
Lol what a joke
no
any idea how long that might take?
nope, but people said when ASE launched it was a few months for linux binaries
that sucks, im not tryna spend 40 dollars so i can play with my friends
im hoping thats not the case, im not going to buy it, till i can run the server on linux
Run a Windows VM for now? Or no ability to?
"Such Games Exclusivity shall not apply to non-commercial, non-monetized servers owned by end-users themselves and for such end-users' own use ("Excepted Servers"):"
i think this clause is why we're now being able to host as many servers as we want. nitrado shouldn't have any authority over user hosted servers
anyone able to get ORP working on their unofficial? The command lines dont seem to work as they did in ASE
server pc isnt running a OS interface as to allocate all recources to running the server so unfortunately no
Dang :(
i can run a windows vm on my box but im not running a resorce hog OS on it to run a server that needs min 16gb of ram on its own
ORP's a mod, it's not out for ascended yet.
Hello some of you also have issue with mob respawning on unofficial and/or have a solution for it ? (dinos just barely not respawn after being killed, for example I cleared carno island and more than an hour later no dinos had respawn)
I was reading the Snail Games/Nitrado contract that was linked to. Was going to post the relevant section, but @glossy kraken beat me to it 🙂
So basically, if I open up a server, I can accept donations but can't charge people to play correct?
The monopoly is the bigger concern. This isn't enough. Nitrado cannot be the only host to allow people to create servers.
can't sell stuff afaik, it's not really clear
I mean, this is what that means, anyone can create a server now no questions asked.
im not a lawyer so not saying correct, but that is how i read it
No. There is still an EULA against "commercial" hosting.
it's what it sounds like to me. I mean yeah. no selling ingame stuff for money, no charging people to play on the server, etc. But you are allowed to accept donations, cause that's what Tipping essentially is.
Would they really go through the effort of suing its customers for accepting donations is the real questions
That's not out of the realm of most game Eulas though
they wouldn't sue just blacklist you from hosting
true
I mean that's fair, but I personally was way more concerned with them preventing us from hosting several servers to make a cluster. I don't really care about them making a deal with Nitrado, even though I really dislike Nitrado.
Use win 10 ltcs or whatever its called then a debloater
Commercial Purposes includes any revenue generated by operation of the Application which exceeds Application operational costs or tipping.
way i read that i can charge people to play on it aslong as its not more then the cost to run it
As far as I know, operational can also include costs for upgrades to the server, which noone can enforce really.
i value my labor as admin at $200/hr
this is all very vague, like who determines how much hosting the server costs
Yea and then donations as well
and ya i got a few k $ in equipment too
My guess that was written by someone on quick demand and not an actually lawyer
It's directly targeted at server hosting companies. They don't want anyone but Nitrado selling or renting game servers
But you could also run a server and, sake of argument you make more than "cost", you just roll those funds over to the next month and maintenance, just hold it all in lieu and be fine. You can't spend any of it unless you are doing upgrades or maintenance. That's my understanding of it, even if you make a few hundred thousand.
Exactly, it's completely unenforceab le.
still a hog, i can run a linux os with only 1gb of ram and 14mhz of cpu usage
that's my read of the commercial clause too. i dont think nitrado gives 2 F's about private server donos. its just an anti-competitive clause
They will blacklist IPs from connecting. They can easily enforce it
you say that like IPs are permanent
nah, thats got a lot more scary words in it
"SGUSA shall promptly (i) inform Marbis in writing if SGUSA becomes aware of any in-fringement of the scope of the Exclusivities ("Infringement") and provide Marbis with allrelevant information relating there to available to SGUSA and its Affiliates, and (ii) take all commercially reasonable action to ensure that the Infringement is promptly ceased and related damages or other payments are promptly recovered from the infringer.
Marbis shall be solely entitled to any damages or other payments recovered from the in- fringer in connection with the Infringement. Upon Marbis' written request and subject to approval by SGUSA's counsel, (i) Marbis shall have the right to take legal action in lieu of SGUSA - whether in court or out of court - against an Infringement (ii) SGUSA shall, and shall procure that its Affiliates shall (A) issue any deed, declaration or other statement as may be reasonably required or helpful to confirm or perfect Marbis" right to take legal action against the Infringement, and (B) provide Marbis, at Marbis' cost, with any other reasona- ble assistance (e.g., as may be required to establish the existence of, ownership in or right to use the relevant rights)."
For a server hosting company yes IPs are static.
in court you would have to prove it, if they sued you
well yeah, the point of the exclusivity is to keep other server hosting companies out of the game. i agree
you can accept cost + tips 10% or cost is a good tip
now cost is subjective
electric bill
internet bill
pc to run on
most high end dedis with windows cost about
200$ +10% * player slot /player joined seems fair for now lol
They can make you prove it in court and you'll have to provide receipts. If you can't then you'll lose. So they would make you show the costs and where you spent the money.
im saying if they ip ban joe schmo from hosting because he took donos. he can just migrate to a new vps. or do some other method for changing ip.
i didnt think ip tracking was even valid in court anymore
Yes it basically means they are ready to lawyer up and sue the fuck out of small business game server hosts in order to enforce their Monopoly
Freedom of Information act, or Internet Privacy Policy? Tricky either way.
No, it's meant more for other hosts. Same thing FiveM did. Even FiveM wasn't capable of monitoring every individual server. But they could do that if someone reported your server and brought it to their attention if you are making a ton of income.
its bascially impossible to prove though, there are a million and 1 ways to spooof an ip and even force the ip onto others so...
my cost is equal to the nitrado monthly cost for a 150 slot server + equipment costs + utilities + labor as admin valued at a rate that i determine
if nitrado is a good comapny they will cacnle the agreement once they make loan back
Yes other hosts are small businesses...
lmao they won't.
yes my rate as a sys admin is like 40$ a hr
Anyone know how to fix asa constant crashing
damn dude mines like 25
Ooooh, that's a good point @old hamlet Does this also include, not just hosting for private servers, but the cost of administration (in terms of employees) to keep service uptime?
How do I save command settings without having myself to re-enter commands when relaunching game? It keeps reseting everytime i launch game
Thanks Wildtown
Could one not argue that ones operational costs mirror what Nitrado is asking for a monthly server per person?
no
also any meals consumed during the operation of said servers.
^ and driving an hour in a company car to pick up parts etc etc
because they alaready have so many servers in bucket and the amount of server they host pays for there head cost
I mean you could, but that doesn't mean that they would agree lol
Hahah, that's fair, my lawyer is rusty.
Go whole hog and claim the room you use in your home as storage/office space on your taxes!
So how would that work with renting a bare metal server?
you could but in court you would have to prove that
just woke up, awesome to see self- hosting has been returned to the ASE level 💛
lol so many people talking legal stuff that know absolutely nothing about how it works.
the cost to rent + 10% tip per player joined
is that what that means?
you can sell shit up to the costs of running the server, after that you can only be given donations
if u go by general tiping rules in america
are you sure about that....?
It would depend a lot on the lawyer most likely. Because they would have the advantage with it being their game and their EULA. But FiveM did this with Zap and basically used it to fuck with any other hosting providers that tried to package the server to a vps, and they didn't really mess with individual servers unless they were extremely grievous
Guilty as charged, but it's fun to discuss!
that would be 20% lmao
as a home business you can claim a room as a business expense if you only have business equipment in that room.
Mhmm, that's what I do for my cybersecurity business.
exactly 😉
says it Iin #patch-notes
might take a couple hours for Steam to apply it
PVPVE no offline raid server Brand new. 5x hmu for details
over exactly what?
Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't anything at all involved with the server be subject to costs of wear and tear?
But does this also enable server clusters?
So technically a company could rent out a server for profit and customers could just install the files themselves
avaerage server to run this would cost 100-200 $ maybe more
if only cheaper on nitrado cause they share machines maybe 1-5 server per machine
so 200 +1400 in tips
per month
Close, but you do still have to buy the game for every additional server that you want. It's a step in the right direction though for sure.
can we host and play on the same machine yet?
hardware, electricity, internet bill etc etc etc
As long as you keep your records/reciepts in check, you would "in theory" do just fine.
no? that was removed from EULA
again if they sue, you have to prove everything or you will lose
yea you have to prove it but if your doing taxes its already kinda done
"Such Games Exclusivity shall not apply to non-commercial, non-monetized servers owned by end-users themselves and for such end users' own use ("Excepted Servers")"
nitrado shouldn't have authority over end-user servers if i'm reading this right. so i doubt that one account per server thing will last with all the backlash it's gotten
The server itself still checks for an account when you go to run the server. I haven't tested whether it checks if that account is already running a server though. But you can download the server anonymously now
look as i said bare metal 200$ a month tips 20% per play in total cap
so tips should not exceed that and you should be fine 1400 usd is alot for me
or it should be or u need to keep better records lol
you pretty much need to be a none profit lmao
no, dmr was removed, it's just not updated yet
The patch hasn't been pushed yet, that's why.
Oh okay, so that's what that patch was then, sweet.
PVPVE no offline raid server Brand new. 5x hmu for details
get outta here with that username, wrong channel too dude.
Point me in the right direction mutt
Sorry about that, I'm on my phone so I didn't see the update in the patch channel
the new build has not been pushed out yet - you will still see steam login and exe checks on the current build of the dedi unless the message below mine is right then lets goooooo
New version just got pushed a minute ago!@
Im honestly shocked there is no tek sword
wrong well branch
steamdb still says public 12551683 15 hours ago for dedicated server
They are releasing content similar to how it was released in the original ark that's why there is no tek sword
my ark is stuck in v25.16 and all the servers are in v25.18, I would submit a ticket but i need to be verified and when i click the link they have to be "verified" it sends me to a complete white page where i cant do anything can someone help me please????
dollie did nothing wrong
basically now you are forced to soak every base and every bit of ammo to raid someone
hey guys i'm just scratching my head with maturation/imprint settings for my server in my game.ini can someone help me to get something that dont take too long and still can 100% imprint the dinos please ? 🙌
dedi server is 2430930
If I were to host a ASA server through Nitrado (while I make some upgrades to a secondary PC to use for running a server) would I be able to transfer the server from Nitrado?
that number is build id not appid
that's build id
That's a stupid ass petition
they might charge you for your data
public build is the build you get when you run app_update so
From personal experience yes, you can download your backups from nitrado and use them on your local server app. I've dine that several times from nitrado.
Is changing the max level of dinos the same as before?
update out
yeah public just got pushed
Awesome, thank you!!
is now public 12557882 37 seconds ago
if anything dolly needs to get paid more lol... cant believe she can deal with some of this shiz xD
yup new one is downloading
maybe if i have seen a post from her in here over the past 2 days but i havent
beat me too it
anyways they have to sue host to get your info
then try sue you personally
your server gonna have to be making 10s of thousands before they come after you just incase you have recipts and they dont wanna loose
if i buy a sever from nitrado will it have the same horrible delays as the official servers?
FiveM was never able to stop the individual servers, the most they ever really got was the host to take your vps down. It'd probably be the same for ASA.
but good luck sueing server host that start offering bare metal or vps servrs with instuctions on how to install your self
probably, nitrado hosts official servers too
Haha, that's exactly how they did it, they weren't allowed to host the files, so they just provided instructions on how to download and install it.
yeah i dont see them spending the money to go after someone or in less its worth it for them
I've been seeing things how nitrado will ban any hosted server that take donations to run the server is that true?
do you? It says Allows Anonymous Download which means anyone can download without logging into Steam.
no you can take cost to run plus tipping
Operational costs and tips are fine.
so tipping rules is 20% per player slot by amreican standards
so 200$ a month + 1400 in tips
I confirm update is working without Steam installed on my dedicated machine.
no you don't have to buy the game for every additional server anymore. The only real issue with what they have now is that it isn't available on linux yet
hoping someone here can assist me, but trying to set max wild dino level to 450 on private unofficial server.
MaxDifficulty=True(game.ini)
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=15.0(gameusersettings.ini
did dino wipe after saving the files and restarting the server.... what am I doin wrong?
Don't know. I know that you can download it anonymously. If they removed the DRM, then the account check is likely gone altogether
That is correct no more DRM i was able to launch my server without steam installed at all.
it appears to be runnign without a steam login
Were you able to get it running on 2022? Sent a friend request as well
it is they removed the account check part from the EULA
That's great news then
Any news on clusters?
im going to test a 2nd instance now. 1 moment
new EULA ```By using this Software (ARK Survival Ascended Dedicated Server, the “Application”), you agree to the following:
The Application is intended and allowed for Personal Use only. Running the Application for Commercial Purposes is not allowed. Commercial Purposes includes any revenue generated by operation of the Application which exceeds Application operational costs or tipping.```
running 2 at the same time, and having them in a cluster are different. i'm not sure what the instructions they have to setup a cluster, but I really hope they aren't as janky as ASE
all the account check and one server per account stuff is gone
Yeah it all worked fine once I installed steam on the server as the EXE had DRM on it and needed steam to run.
From the looks of it DRM is being removed but will take a little while for steam to update it.
Confirmed i was able to start 2 instances.
@zenith rover I choose to believe you, and for that, I celebrate.
Ah, were you able to connect to the server via the server list too?
i am celebrating right now. i can now run a PvE and PVP server seperatly 🙂
Never tested that far just tested to the point of it running. But don’t see why it wouldn’t
Can confirm, install and running of the program from SteamCMD anonymous.
Best news I've heard today then
now we just need linux binaries lmao
wonder how many server accounts are gonna refund now
Im super hyped!
Could you check? That is where I am having great difficulty, can't see it or connect; and I was able to get it working locally so easily just not on windows server 2022
Great job Wildcard, thanks for listening and changing fast 💛 Will pick the game back up now and start hosting for some friends <3
Does the value for baby mature speed still work in the ini?
Bro, I tried to tell people to not buy server accounts yet until we know for sure lol
Big W, now we just need some genius to make an automatisation tool for the .ini and servers will be a breeze.
i will be testing Linux functionality shortly here.
Big facts right there.
You can set up your Singleplayer settings, and then copy the .ini files to your server for easy config.
i have it downloaded on my linux box, but not trying to get the windows binaries to run
I refunded in protest of the stuff they have now gone back on.
Do you have firewall on your server enabled? Could be that.
I already added the ports, but the dedi server adds an exception automatically so it should work out of the box. I never had to open ports on my local computer for example, just forwarded the ports
Kinda? There's a bunch of server exclusive settings that aren't touched by singleplayer, but that is a way to make it way smoother yeah.
can anyone ping me on the settings to use to get 2x gathering with dinos and without them?
are all Nitrado servers having issues? we haven't been able to get into our server since midnight last night
I actually have it all installed and pre-setup on my Linux server ready to go, they just need to throw me the Linux binaries and off I go :), we're so close, gimme!
i dont have it set up, im not buying the game till i have the linux binaries lmao
Has anyone had this pop up in their dedicated local server? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPAWNER FAILURE: NPCZoneManagerBlueprint_Land_465 had 20 spawn failures in a row @ 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, DISABLING!
steam dedicated server still wants Steam ASA license.
It is happening in land_465, water_107 and water_413
Yo
did you update it
yeah ive been getting it a lot, and several other people have gotten it too
There's no way it does, because it's launchable without steam.
yeah I can't figure that out.
I just installed it 15min ago for the first time and it wouldn't launch at all w/o steam client, and when I installed steam client it required login and popped up saying no licenses. I'd post SS if i could upload here
@proven blaze is it running 25.15 or 25.18?
it ws just updated like 17min ago, maybe you got the old version
They just updated it 13 minutes ago
if you started download more than 17 minutes ago it's probably still old version
I tried setting up a cluster like you would with ASE and it seems to be ignoring it. However the string ClusterId does appear in the server binary.
Any word on linux servers / docker support?
nope
hoping someone here can assist maybe, but trying to set max wild dino level to 450 on a private unofficial server.
MaxDifficulty=True(game.ini)
OverrideOfficialDifficulty=15.0(gameusersettings.ini
did dino wipe after saving the files and restarting the server.... what am I doin wrong here?
no linux binaries
Supposedly there is a steamcmd windows container but I don't know anything about windows containers. I think it's pretty new still.
Anyone happen to have figured out whitelisting? I've tried with -exclusivejoin and PlayersExclusiveJoinList.txt but I keep getting denied when I try to join
yeah, but linux is just nicer in every possible way ;-)
Maybe I can run windows in virtualbox and deploy a container there. Removing the DRM is huge. Having to 2FA to start a server was rediculous XD
will they come?
im at a loss, i have run ark server from when it came out. 20+ year of IT. have my own servers ( vm's ) I can dl the game via steamcmd or the steam client. when i run it from my bat file <start ArkAscendedServer.exe TheIsland_WP?SessionName=Mostly Harmless Server?AltSaveDirectoryName=TheIsland?listen?ServerPassword=thepass?Port=7777?QueryPort=27015? -NoTransferFromFiltering -NoBattlEye> it only runs for 6 seconds before giving me a crashdump. but if i run it from the steam page it stays up with a tick loop but doesnt have any ports that its listen on.. wtf is this shit
Yeah. If I have to use michaelsoft binbows I want to isolate and automate it away as much as possible so I don't have to smell its shit 😆
your guess is as good as mine if they will
Try DifficultyOffset=15 instead of OverrideOfficialDifficulty=15.0, that's how mine is working
anyone have link to new EULA ?
lol, yup i just pushed while I was in here typing messages.
yeah, we've been dealing with this all day too. There's a lot of us that are having port listen issues, guess we just kinda have to wait until it's fixed
I don't even have a game.ini for the server it literally only gave me the gameusersettings ini, and ive been able to play on my server twice now, with my wife on there aswell
aa
dm if you find anything
will do
ill do the same
Try resetting your world files
Has anyone been able to get the breeding config settings working for ASA? We have increased them on our server, but not seeing a difference in game.
I mean they love monopolies so much maybe they want to make sure microshaft gets a turn on us
god damn it lol
Not through nitrado
I still can't see my server on the server list myself, I was able to get it working locally just fine just not on my server
it doesnt create the saves yet
store.steampowered.com//eula/2430930_eula_0
so i had this issue (dont ask why) but when i made the name of my server all one word it worked
What OS?
yeah, i've tried everything under the sun for this, but for some reason it just simply won't stick on my server. I will keep looking but I think i'll just have to wait for updates
BabyCuddleGracePeriodMultiplier=
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=
BabyCuddleLoseImprintQualitySpeedMultiplier=
BabyFoodConsumptionSpeedMultiplier=
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=
BabyImprintingStatScaleMultiplier=
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=
MatingIntervalMultiplier=
MatingSpeedMultiplier=
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=
bDisableFriendlyFire=
none of these seem to work with nitrado servers putting in game.ini .. even tried in gameusersettings.ini for giggles
server 2016
Did you put the breeding settings in game.ini? Not gameusersettings.ini?
do you have the latest C++ dist installed?
yes
I've gone so deep I know exactly what's wrong I think but I am still not sure how to fix it
did you update it in the past 25min
I thought ASA only used a GUS, unlike ASE. If it also uses the Game.ini like ASE, then no, we didn't do that. We put all our normal Game.ini config into the GUS
it does use game.ini and gameusersettings.ini for the server
Delete MaxDifficulty=True in game.ini file
OK so installed new version of ASA server and I have the firewall setup for the program and the ports and the server loads and it seems fine but nothing will show up via the ip and port or even 127.0.0.1 and the port number. Also it says ticking loop at the bottom of the server window any idea what I could be doing wrong?
you need quotes around session name
@serene shore i send you a kit and some explaining on this server
Yeah it also uses a game.ini. Create one in the same folder as your gameusersettings.ini if it's not there, and put something like this in there:
[/Script/ShooterGame.ShooterGameMode]
MatingIntervalMultiplier=0.1
EggHatchSpeedMultiplier=25.0
BabyMatureSpeedMultiplier=20.0
BabyFoodConsumptionSpeedMultiplier=1.0
LayEggIntervalMultiplier=0.5
BabyImprintAmountMultiplier=8.0
BabyCuddleIntervalMultiplier=0.05
I would check your config formatting then, odd; I hadn't had these issues in 2022
why did nitrado have to make it a pain in the ass to setup servers to change rates?!?!?!
When will mods be added? Ones like S+ and awesome spyglass
when you port them over
Awesome spyglass isn't -as- needed anymore since the tek binoculars do what they did now
once the mod makers update them
Awesome, thank you! We'll give it a shot.
anyone know if nitrado has any sort of refund policy or anything?
Still the tek binoculars arent accesible early game and youd have to hold them to see stuff
and dont the person that made S+ work for WC now
server update come out yet?
Profit before quality and service.
Yes.
awesome, cool
Same thing even with "" around the session name. :/
they do, I have gotten some refunds
do you know how it works? i may succumb and just buy a server but ive heard they are known to be shit and i would like a refund if that is true
whats the update code for steamcmd to update ark dedicated server
2430930
app_update 2430930
has anyone figured out how to get the mods to work on self hosted dedicated server? I added ActiveMods= to the GameUserSettings.ini I am curious if i have to preload the mod onto the server, and if i do, where exactly I put it. do I mimic single player ?
cant u login anonymous now or do u still need a account that has it
I bought one, it sucked, I got a refund like 12 hours later lol
sorry, to butt in here, trying to set up on a dedi, game downloaded etc, but not appearing in the game listing. ports are opened, any ideas?
You need to log into an account for this update, but after this one, no.
ok ty
dont need to for this update,
i downloaded it and dont even own the game
oh really? I had to for whatever reason
what u login as stole
Anyone had luck increasing spawn levels? Haven't seen anything over lvl 25 on my server.
Anonymous
you need to do a dino wipe island is noturious for low lvls
can we run them anon now or what?
Is this update live now?
NAME DESCRIPTION BUILD ID TIME UPDATED
unoff_beta 12558960 6 minutes ago
npc_beta 12558951 7 minutes ago
qa_staging 12558942 9 minutes ago```
wonder what they F-ed up that they updating test branches already lmao
im getting application error when launching .bat
They already said they were doing this for things they didn't want in live yet..