ark-2

[true viper]

Different in the sense that it's a seperate version of what previously existed. Not new in the sense that it's rebuilt from the ground up to play like the original.

it's more of an addition than an edition I'd argue.

[thick moat]

yeah i mean obviously but the game itself is what wildcard wanted ark to be, at least from the dev note, that's why I would call it a reimagined version

[thick moat]

true

[true viper]

Could just be marketing related, but I would like to agree with you

[fallow niche]

Neither of those is what a sequel would technically be, reimagined/remake would be like asa xd

[thick moat]

asa is a remaster

or a mix

i guess lol

[fallow niche]

Remake/reimagined/remaster are all 3 used to describe asa, so yeah xd

Not Ark2

[true viper]

Really just think WC needs a new publisher that doesn’t treat them worse than cattle

[vernal tide]

is it true theyre making it only third person cause holy hell thats gonna suck

[fallow niche]

Yes, all known info is in the pinned messages including the wiki/store pages

[vernal tide]

someone has to make a mod where you can go first person cause bro 😭

idk anyone who prefers third person over first

[fallow niche]

It will be available via mods

[vernal tide]

alr well thanks for the info

[stray elm]

Assuming someone makes one.

[fallow niche]

I was just meaning the option is there.

[potent crow]

hi

[blissful perch]

Me! Now you know someone. Because I play ark 80% of the time on a mount in third person

[vernal tide]

Ok but mounts are different

On a mount it's practical and it makes you feel badass and I play 80% third person on a mount but by yourself it's very strange being in third person for a while

[blissful perch]

It’s not that weird…it’s much weirder to dodge and parry in third person

[languid hamlet]

Most players do

[untold ingot]

Um. Everyone uses third person, especially on pvp.

[brisk prawn]

I swap between first and 3rd depending on what I'm doing.

Generally I'm running around in first though

[untold ingot]

That works better in pve. I prefer 3rd because I like to be able to see. Third with fov out the roof is what I do

[jade nimbus]

I usually use third when running around but for shooting weapons I mainly use first person.

[hard veldt]

putting my two cents on the third person vs first person argument

it relies entirely on which one the game was designed for

ARK was designed for first person. it works best in first person. crafting stations and bases are a lot more compact and when you use third person you get your camera stuck on everything.

Palworld was designed for third person, I'm sure it would be painful to play in first person. bases are large and spacious to account for the further camera

[ripe flicker]

This absolutely, and as I would assume, ark 2 is more than likely going to be designed for that 3rd person so it’s not gonna be as bad as people make it out to me imo

[hard veldt]

yeah, my criticism is why the fuck are we making ark 2 so unlike ark

[stray elm]

What is ARK to you, if I may ask?

[dusky fjord]

Fr, it's a survival dino game with okey graphics 😎

[stray elm]

Eh, that's too broad.

[dusky fjord]

I was joking lol, lemme expand

[dusky fjord]

Well I'ma just say being different from ASA or ASE is GOOD. It will give a bit of variety and somthing new

it will be kinda scary being first person with the new dino mechanics lol (correct me if im wrong but some dinos will be able to smell our scent (to find you?)?)

[stray elm]

To me, ARK is more about the bigger picture.
To be an ARK game to me, it has to have not just RPG elements, but also technological progression. An ARK game stuck in the stone-age is no ARK game I'm interested in, and same as one that's stuck in a Tek-era, let's say.
It requires extreme emphasis on taming and utilizing creatures, with procedural systems in place that allows every creature of the same species to look different. (in this case, it's color regions)
The story more then ever is also important, as we have more people knowing that ARK has at 'least' some form of plot. So at least some decent/good writing is required.

[dusky fjord]

I agree with the stone age thing!

[stray elm]

That's what they're saying. But ASA stated it would have better pathfinding.
And...ummm...yeah, it does.
Sometimes.

[dusky fjord]

I love progression

[dusky fjord]

"And...ummm...yeah, it does.
Sometimes." wdym

[stray elm]

Sometimes the pathfinding can seem better, like creatures being harder to trap with more complex traps.
Then sometimes it's fucking annoying with them not wanting to walk over a goddamn fence foundation.

[dusky fjord]

lol

[stray elm]

Them stating that usable Tek wont be a thing has been one of my major turn offs for ARK-2.
That, and there's no hint so far that the progression will go beyond the stone age.
It 100% could, but I'd like to actually see that shit or get a confirmation.

[dusky fjord]

yea

[stray elm]

Oh, and four years later. I'm still salty over them having Vin as Santiago, instead of his own character.

[dusky fjord]

yea

also what is ARK: Frozen Seed.

[stray elm]

Fanmade series being made by NeddyTheNoodle/TryTheByte. The same person that did the ARK: Survival Stories.

[dusky fjord]

oh cool

money man

who thinks ark 2 should have more realistic dino senses, like line of sight (dino specific), smell, hearing?

[dusky fjord]

lol

[hard veldt]

a first person shooter survival game with heavy focus on RNG and taming dinosaurs to further your goals towards defeating bosses/ total server domination

[stray elm]

Interesting perspective.

[reef charm]

Wow Ark 2 is still not scheduled for release

3 years ago, it was announced that the ark2 will be released in 2024.
But w.c didn't have money, so w.c sold the same game again

And now, basic customer support services have been suspended due to financial and manpower problems
Will a new game come out.
Isn't it a scam

Sometimes there are games where only trailers are grandiose and releases are postponed

[upbeat patrol]

They said it won’t release any sooner than June 2025 since then it’s 10th anniversary

[stray stone]

who said it?

[upbeat patrol]

It was on a video

[charred dirge]

Ark 2 comes 2027

[brave patrol]

.

[languid hamlet]

They didn’t say 2024 until last year. Before that it was 2023. Before that it was 2022. Now it’s 2025 at the earliest

[reef charm]

I see....

[reef charm]

2025 is next year.
Is that true Ark 2 will release next year?

So then we can play ark 2 before gen1, gen2

[languid hamlet]

I don’t think it will be out before those but maybe

2025 is more like an estimate

[sacred goblet]

not even one damn update or anything nothing this sucks!

there going to leave us in the dark forever or what?

[blissful perch]

It’ll be until we get more news 🤷‍♂️. Again, the choices are 1) make ark 2 or 2) go under

[gray fulcrum]

I miss the sense of amazement and adventure that I experienced with the first Ark. the new version of Ark 1 wasn’t enough to give me that experience again.

I’m REALLY looking forward to Ark 2 for this reason. Good luck team!

[silver seal]

ASA is not ark2?

[real flume]

@gleaming rock

[loud star]

Case #48810 @real flume has been muted for 2 hours.
Reason: Mass Tagging

[untold ingot]

I mean, it's the same game why would it

[stray elm]

No

[sturdy moat]

Big BrEaKiNG NeWs ark 2 going to released in 2050

[hearty rover]

ARK 2 is not ARK 2 is a fck game like darksoul why you guys waiting this sh*t ? Do you think is better than ARK ASA ? Nop sorry both use UE5

[blissful perch]

Because ark’s “click until dead” system is boring. So I think ark 2 will be better, at least that way

[true viper]

^

[hard veldt]

I mean ark is a FPS at its core, they're all "click until dead" games. I'm just worried that most of ark's original playerbase aren't going to like a fast-paced soulslike in place of a somewhat slow-based FPS

[true viper]

Most of Arks player base isn't going to like anything that isn't ASE/A

Besides we're not even sure how fast it will be paced compared to ASE/A just yet.

They're free to keep playing ASE/A, but it's time for something new

[blissful perch]

At its core it’s a survival taming game. FPS is entirely (imo) because of it being easy to design compared to more complex melee combat…and imo if the appeal was the sorta “eh” fps gameplay, ark would be sunk

[hard veldt]

well if it's souls combat it is absolutely going to be faster.

[hard veldt]

and the survival taming aspect is also designed around the game being an FPS. the evolution from guy running around with a slingshot to guy riding a T-rex is a core part of the game's appeal.

also, either tame combat is going to slow down because you're now riding a souls boss instead of an FPS boss, or foot combat isn't gonna really work because you're trying to dodge around the T-rex that clicks on you.

[blissful perch]

not really though...the "spears and sticks to rex rider" doesn't require fps

as for combat, it could use some better pacing. It's either one shots or extremely miserable forms of combat (dot spam and LMB spam being the worst)

there's almost no mechanical engagement for a player once in combat in current ark

[split dove]

you did fall asleep fighting a skeletal bronto once

[true viper]

It would be for the better I think. Ark has nothing like the “covenant dance” in Halo for example

[blissful perch]

true. then i woke up and was still spamming LMB

[true viper]

No flow or rhythm to the combat

[tribal chasm]

People like the simple / numbers go up (or down) games

[blissful perch]

*some

[hard veldt]

idk, I'd argue combat has only improved as ark gets older, like, pre-abberation? yeah it's pretty boring, dodo bombs are probably the most complex strategy, but now you have things like velonasaurs and shadowmanes that pull out all the stops and add depth to combat, especially PVP combat.

[blissful perch]

more modern tames certainly get closer to a better form of combat

[hard veldt]

and I would rather they try to refine the kind of combat they already have, rather than uprooting everything and using a whole new genre to make ARK

and again, ARK players are the kind of people who like seeing numbers go up and adventuring on dinosaurback, which doesn't always overlap with people that want a fast paced soulslike experience

... also let's be real wildcard's servers may struggle to render soulslike combat if ARK 2 is multiplayer to the same extent ASE/ASA was

[tribal chasm]

I dare say that souls like combat is often ... easy ...

it pretends to be a challenging mechanic but really is not very skilled at all, only when people do absolute tedium challenges (ie entire game taking 0 damage) does it become difficult

[hard veldt]

ye it's not the difficulty that's associated with souls combat that I'm worried about, it's the pacing

[blissful perch]

but...it's not a new genre. It's survival taming, which is ark's genre. Conan has something pretty close to what ark 2 says it'll be, and it's the same genre ark is

[hard veldt]

does conan exiles have you running around on T-rexes? I might have to check that game out-

[blissful perch]

and there's certainly a group of ark players who like watching numbers move...those likely highly dedicated players will never embrace a large change to the format anyway, and will stick to Asa, which is intended to exist so ark 2 can experiement with advancing the series forward

[hard veldt]

I'm sure splitting the already divided ark community again will be great for the company

[true viper]

Doesn’t matter what WC does, they’ll hate them just the same

[blissful perch]

soulslike combat can vary immensely in difficulty based on the moves available to the player and the way the enemies behave. In all cases though it has more complexity and player engagement than mushing LMB while maybe tapping the W key every so often

[hard veldt]

I don't really get why people are mad at WC, it's snail that's the problem

[blissful perch]

also not entirely a split if it's appealing to people who left ark or never played it much to begin with

[true viper]

Casual fans don’t concern themselves with wc enough to recognize the difference.

If wc broke free from snail, we would have much better games.

[hard veldt]

but that's the thing, not everyone wants the complexity of the soulslike combat system. that's my issue- ARK players are the kind of people who want to play rust with dinosaurs, not elden ring with dinosaurs, they're trying to make ark 2 vastly different from ASE and I don't think it's gonna do well because of it

[blissful perch]

you mean current ark players who are either settling with ase/asa or will never move to a new format?

[hard veldt]

if wc broke free from snail I don't think we'd even be here having this conversation

[hard veldt]

yeah, the people they're expecting to buy ARK 2?

[blissful perch]

if wc broke from snail, ark 2 would exist with souls like combat 😉 and we'd be playing it

I don't see why WC would ever expect highly dedicated asa players to be the main demographic for ark 2

[hard veldt]

because... they're the people who play ARK?

[blissful perch]

the whole point of asa was to offer people in love with ark 1 a game they could play while ark 2 does something new for a new audience

that new audience will include ark 1 players and a group of players that previously have left or never been highly invested in ark 1

[hard veldt]

I mean they clearly expected ASE players to be the ones who buy ARK 2 before they realized how much of a nightmare making a soulslike survival game in UE5 would be

[tribal chasm]

They missed the mark very much with ASA, even streamers are struggling to play it

there's a large group of people who loved earlier Ark, but current ASE/ASA don't accommodate at all, like...
a lot of people are hoping Ark 2 will remind them of earlier Ark

[blissful perch]

also true. Heavier stone age play was something a ton of people begged to see a return to after ark moved towards tek

[hard veldt]

their reluctance to actually develop ARK 2 and instead repackage ASE into ASA (while also making and breaking promises that ASE players would be able to upgrade) also doesn't give me much confidence that what ark 2 could have been will/could happen

[blissful perch]

well it's likely a financial choice on that one...asa is both safer and way easier to make than a whole new thing

[hard veldt]

are there not official primitive+ servers anymore? I swear that was made specifically to preserve the early ark vibe-

[blissful perch]

prim+ has been unsupported for years

[hard veldt]

yes, and I'm sure it may have even been received well if they announced ASA instead of ARK 2

[blissful perch]

probably. it's a safe bet

creatively however it's a dead end

[hard veldt]

how so?

they seem to have no problem adding new things

I don't like some of them, sure

[blissful perch]

new things doesn't mean a shake up to mechanics

[untold ingot]

I want Conan with dinosaurs

[blissful perch]

the core of grinding materials with dubious QoL, taming creatures that still need "KO + spam food in its face + sit there and wait", combat that's extremely basic...and an rpg system that is mostly rng and time based (crates + waiting for mutation rng), to name a few

there's a reason I stopped playing ase and asa, and it's entirely because I wanted a pve experience that engaged me...not hogged my time

[untold ingot]

Well, those all carried over. Pretty much all new mechanics with Asa are different and interesting

[blissful perch]

right. it's old baggage

[untold ingot]

The time to progress is still very high, and I suspect it will be with ark2 as well

[untold ingot]

Yeah, they couldn't exactly get rid of everything and still call it a remaster

[hard veldt]

I mean if ark2 is supposed to be primitive only, I'd hope time to progress is very long

[true viper]

Well there was the Rex model leak in 2023. One of the saddles had scrap tek on it. Tek is too central to the story to just completely abandon

[blissful perch]

time to progress being really skewed in ark 1 is also not great...primitive lasts like an hour lol

[untold ingot]

It should be balanced so that if someone wants it short it can be

[hard veldt]

well I think that'd be dealt with the same way it's dealt with in ase. multipliers.

[hard veldt]

ye, but does that tek actually work is my question, it looks like arat prime is just scattered with tek that people use to make their tools because it's a really good material

[untold ingot]

Ase multipliers aren't balanced

[true viper]

I would hope it doesn’t tbh. Tek has never been my thing personally.

I have to imagine there will be times where tek is relevant in whatever way it may be experienced in game/

[blissful perch]

imo it shouldn't. Once you introduce powercreep like that, you can't put it back in the box...you basically ruin the primitive experience instantly

[true viper]

That’s teks biggest issue I think

[untold ingot]

Hmm, it's not that bad tbh

[hard veldt]

I mean it's still ARK, we're probably going to have some form of obelisk stand-in and bosses to kill

[untold ingot]

If ark had kept primitive the way they did it the game would be remarkably boring after a year or so

[untold ingot]

I honestly doubt that. They seem to want open world bosses a lot more

[true viper]

Bosses may be downgraded to world bosses. Thinking about dynamic world bosses.

And the world events they talked about previously

[hard veldt]

it's probably gonna happen tek is inseperable from ark's identity

[hard veldt]

well that'd be interesting

[blissful perch]

It’s really easily separable. As easy as saying “no more ark 1 tek tier”

[true viper]

What I would like to see out of Ark is it taking itself seriously. The current cartoony style of the current game works for what it is, but it’s ultimately had its time in the sun.

If ASE could have been anything else, ASA would have made that happen, but it hasn’t.

[blissful perch]

Tek as a concept isn’t going anywhere, but jetpacks and lasers can sit out of ark 2 imo with no issues

[hard veldt]

yeah I don't think jetpacks and lasers are going to stay in ark 2 either

[true viper]

If we had a better character creator, better movement systems and half decent AI for humanoid factions, Ark II may as well not even be a thing

[blissful perch]

You missed creature ai but yes

[true viper]

That too

[hard veldt]

I do worry about the "NPC humanoids" too

[true viper]

In what way?

[blissful perch]

If Aratai are always hostile or at best an npc faction (ie NOT TAMABLE) it’ll be fine

[hard veldt]

idk it just seems like it's gonna be a tripping block for the game

either the NPCs are such an issue that the game turns into PVE or the NPCs get mollywhopped and are a non-issue

I'm sure it could be done well though

[true viper]

Well I have to imagine that they’re going to be encountered pretty frequently

[blissful perch]

What else would the game be? Even PvP was meant to be pvpve. It’s just that the PvE falls so flat in ark 1 pvp that people forget about it

[hard veldt]

was ark 1 supposed to be pvpve? I mean, even the bosses are just PVE for the purpose of bolstering PVP

[blissful perch]

I would say so. The intention is for the wildlife to always be a constant threat

Obviously that’s not how it played out in ark 1 tho lol

[hard veldt]

it's kinda hard to make wildlife a constant threat in a game about turning that wildlife into a weapon

[blissful perch]

Flak begs to differ with that line of reasoning

[true viper]

That's what I would hope the NPCs in Ark II would fix. At a certain point, just fighting the wildlife is borning because the encounter doesn't feel like it carrys any weight to it. Fighting the dinos is cool, but I would much prefer having to fight a humanoid faction more often than just the dinos.

[blissful perch]

I’d also prefer if fights felt like they mattered

[hard veldt]

but at that point just fight the other humanss

[blissful perch]

I hate how silly it feels to meat run the map and just mindlessly LMB through all the wildlife. Why bother with creature ai and behavior if they’re just walking resources

[true viper]

You and I both know how messy PvP is in Ark.

[hard veldt]

it seems pretty solid to me

[true viper]

ASE/A can't ever be anything more than it already is, the meta of the game is permanently defined and unchangeable at this point. Ark II is the future of the franchise, ASA is just a stop along the way.

[blissful perch]

Well they could change it, but that would make more people mald than ark 2 would

[hard veldt]

I mean if they manage to make it work I'd probably be one of the first people putting boots to ground on ark 2

[true viper]

Right, any change to this game makes people mad

[hard veldt]

but this also... assumes they make ark 2

[true viper]

damned if they do damned if they don't.

[blissful perch]

Well all it does is make wc want to not care

[true viper]

^

[blissful perch]

Nothing makes devs more apathetic than people who shell out money whenever possible but complain in circles constantly

[hard veldt]

"they added a new dinosaur" isn't exactly the same gripe as "they're gutting the official servers I've been playing on for 5 years" or "they're turning my FPS game into a soulslike"

[blissful perch]

When mutation stacking was found wc considered deleting everyone’s tames to fix it

Note that didn’t happen because change (even in stupidly early access) = bad

[hard veldt]

nuking everybody's tames would be pretty bad, yes

[untold ingot]

That's just not true lol

Basic gameplay is mostly the same, but the meta has vastly changed

[blissful perch]

In early access that should be acceptable if it leads to meaningful progress

[true viper]

ASA is pretty much just treading old ground, with a few new things. You may not see it the same way as I do, but it's the way I see it.

If anything, I hope that new DLC idea would prove me wrong

[untold ingot]

Except it's not

You can use some of the same strategies as in ase, but Asa is very different metawise

[hard veldt]

frankly I hope genesis gets turned into a trilogy that flows into ark 2

[untold ingot]

Kinda already did

Just hasn't gotten there yet

[blissful perch]

Is it though? Or is it just powercrept Ase? I haven’t been tracking

[blissful perch]

Credit where due, Asa did fix some major cheese like stupid high movement speed gremlins and wildly too high breed line stats…but I’m not sure that counts as new territory beyond needing to pay for the pyromane and dreadmares

[drowsy hamlet]

sooo end of 2024 ark 2 was supposed to be here, it's definitely end of 2024.... where is it 👀

[true viper]

Right, and they should be given credit for that. If ASA had a wholly new character creature that wasn't just Joe and Johanna Rogan, remade movement modes, and everything else I talked about before, may be it would be better than it is. I have to imagine that WC wanted ASA to be much more than it current is, but Snail once again spoiled the fun for everyone.

[blissful perch]

Asa having the same bugs and baggage as ase wasn’t a good start so that’s fair

[blissful perch]

It’s the friends you made along the way!

[drowsy hamlet]

we not getting it this year are we if ever

[true viper]

I would hope not. If anything the game still hasn’t been canceled

[frail locust]

I wonder why there's no even a teaser of gameplay of ark 2, i mean it's almost end of 2024 and they didn't say nothing about ark 2

[compact juniper]

from what i heard ark 2 is going to bea solo dark souls like game

[blissful perch]

Take the “solo” out and you’re right. I still don’t get how so many people have it in their heads that ark 2 is a solo game

It has never been marketed or even presented as one. People just saw characters and assumed ark 2 was a solo story game

[gaunt mango]

It’s because two people complained about it on twitter and now all the complaints are the same. It will be nothing even remotely close to a souls game but people can’t think for themselves any more

[untold ingot]

It is extremely different

[blissful perch]

Any examples? All I’m seeing are people saying Asa is ase with QoL in terms of PvP

[hard veldt]

because when you hear "souls like" you generally think solo game.

ark 2 also looks to be a bit more story driven, which is usually better done in a solo game

so people make assumptions

[languid hamlet]

Souls like games have co-op. When the devs specifically say combat and also say that it’ll still be multiplayer like Ark was, it just doesn’t make sense lol

[thick moat]

It doesnt make sense to have a multiplayer game with souls combat? Is that what you mean?

[languid hamlet]

No, it doesn’t make sense that people think it’s a single player game for those reasons

[blissful perch]

Not really sure that’s what I think at all given they described a combat analogy. If they said “Ark 2 will mirror a dark souls game” I could see that though

[untold ingot]

The meta isn't turret towers for one. It's ground turrets. Even the meta tames are different, and used differently

[stray elm]

There's also bound to be some uses within a new meta with shit in BTT's, like traits that allow creatures to inherit specific stats like melee.

[sick swift]

https://discord.com/channels/729837326120910915/1110949794907684965

[daring jetty]

not to mention blimp

[untold ingot]

Yeah there is thst, the oasisuar is meta for early game, and well the cart is just busted

[untold ingot]

That's not actually that op. It's really slow, fragile as a kitten and only is good early game

[low sundial]

Do we know if we'll get to play back on earth?

Even if it's gonna be a DLC?

[stray elm]

Likely not, unless they pull some weird shit out of their ass.
Arat is lightyears away from Earth, and the main parts of the Genesis-ship is currently being crushed under the pressure of a gas-giant.

[low sundial]

I mean, the Arks.

[stray elm]

What about the ARK's?

[low sundial]

They landed, so did aberration, now what?

I know it's early for the game, but do you think the devs can plan a DLC where you can play on earth after the Arks landed?

[stray elm]

Humanity will rebuild civilization without Tek, and since Rockwell already fucked off onto the Genesis-ship at this point. I imagine Aberration isn't a threat at all with all the ARK's EMP blasting the shit out of the planet

[stray elm]

They've yet to do 'what-if' map expansions yet.
It's not impossible, but pretty unlikely, unless they do one for ASA.

[languid hamlet]

The new DLC for ASA might have that. We will know soon enough

[hazy axle]

cant wait for rag map

[tame geode]

Yeah, the Ark 2 Ragnarok remake, I bet.

I say that, but then that bison concept art looks like it may have originally been for ark 2, so... you never know.

[serene onyx]

Pretty sure that’s just a animal that never won in the dino votes

[tame geode]

Yes, I am aware.

[fallow niche]

This channel is only for Ark 2. Please use the other channels for ASA, such as #general, #ark-survival-ascended, #pve-discussion, or #pvp-discussion.

[chilly cliff]

Wait does qrk 2 exiwt?

Exist

[shrewd whale]

its on the steam store but its not out or playable yet for people

[thick moat]

it will, hopefully

[echo brook]

it sometimes feel like they were remaking alot of things by starting from the first part of the game to the end ... and they slowed down alot when geetting further down the games progerssion.... it might eb funding tho idk it just feels like some parts of the game are exactly the same and others are wayyy better than ase

[true viper]

Right, and those being as they are, should be given credit where it's due. To may way of thinking however, if we had those QoL changes on top of a new player character, better animations etc it would be a much different story. These things compound on each other

[coarse fern]

Come on wild card. You can’t bring PS5 onboard for Ark and the remake and now with Ark2 just exclude us. Come come come we have a lot of money to spend and we have been good supporters although ab is still unplayable.

[neat bough]

is there going to be any news about ark 2 before 2025

[blissful perch]

We’ll know it when we see it

[frail turtle]

Ark 2 LOL, they cant even finish the ASA maps in time but they actually have a Discord server for ARK 2? ehh? i just checked in today... today is 1st of April, or what? 😄

[fallow niche]

This channel was created when Ark2 was first announced, has nothing to do with ASA.

If you'd like to rant about ASA, move it to #general.

[honest latch]

Any word on Daddy Diesel? Haven’t heard from him in a while.

[true viper]

I have to imagine he's signed an NDA of some stripe

[gleaming hare]

when ark 2 comin out

[tight galleon]

2040*

[deep idol]

27-30

[dreamy tusk]

Highly doubtful. Not sure they’re in a position financially anymore to be expanding like that. Releasing ark ascended without all (or at least half) the old maps seemed like an attempt to get money fast. Of course doing it this way kills the player count rapidly due to severe lack of content. Can’t see investors looking at the way ascended has been handled and still thinking “yeah, Ark 2 sounds like a promising release”

Then again, that’s conjecture on my part, but from everything I’ve heard, it’s not all sunshine and roses at wildcard

If I were them I’d quietly sell off the already existing assets of ark 2 that can’t be reused for ascended, scrap it altogether and pour all attention into ascended. Unfortunately that’s probably going to require more pay to win content being added, because the ascended purchase includes all the old maps, so that money has been taken already

[mint swan]

do you think it's even possible that it will be released ever?

[wild grotto]

Yeah

Not soon, but it’ll be

[faint turtle]

probably not in our life time, but yeah at somepoint

[forest walrus]

Hi

[dapper falcon]

Hi

[worn dawn]

Nobody wants this, more paid content, we just want Ark 2 and goodbye Ascended

[worn dawn]

True,People clap when WC adds a "new creature" and complain about the rest. Instead of updating the old creatures that become increasingly discarded and useless and fill the game with new creatures, enough of that. Fix the game instead of always launching a new creature to hold players back

[hard veldt]

exactly! and now that they think they can get away with making us buy individually packaged creatures, they are now incentivised to make new creatures instead of fixing the damn game

[tribal chasm]

Is Snail games involved with Ark 2? Or is it like a Grapeshot games situation (like with Atlas)?

[stray elm]

They where involved with ATLAS aswell.
They own both Wildcard and Grapeshot, aswell as both IP's. So they have some form of involvement one way or another.

[frigid prism]

Anyone knows if ark 2 is going to have tek??

[stray elm]

It wont have usable Tek

[frigid prism]

Oh really? That’s bad

[stray elm]

Yep, from what we know so far. It'll stay mostly primitive.

[frigid prism]

Like at all? That’s so weird… considering that ark is like evolution game, maybe tek is a kind of broken but they could just setup tek on a different way, to make evolution more attractive

So is tek going to be dead for the rest of the ark history?

[stray elm]

It's a loud-minority issue, just like every issue that Wildcard has changed with balancing that have done more harm then good.
(cryopods change in ASA for example that took months of everyone complaining for them to revert it for PvE.)

[stray elm]

No, as it'll still be in the universe.
They showed off some weapon concept-art, and how one type of primitive sword you'll be able to make is a shard of debris from the Genesis-ship that's in a shape of a blade.

[frigid prism]

Ah

I thought it was already out of the saga and ark history

[stray elm]

Can't really eradicate Tek currently within the universe.

[frigid prism]

That’s the main reason because ark started xdd

I hope later they give us a new tek design. I don’t know I would like aliens tek hahaha, I know people are gonna say that if I want technology and stuff then I should go to another game but I really want like a map inspired by aliens tek or more futuristic stuff

Even if it sounds stupid xd

[stray elm]

Right, but Tek is created from Element. Which Element as confirmed in Genesis-2, has infected multiple planets. Beyond what humanity can currently handle.
Like, it took hundreds to thousands of years just to deal with the Corruption on Earth. So we're not really in the spot to eradicate it from the galaxy.

[stray elm]

Wildcard has OCD, I swear to fuck. Because if enough people complain about something, they'll usually change it. Even if it goes against their vision.
And seeing how ARK-2 is 100% not coming out this year, and at the very least near the end of 2025 in Early-Access, we could see a totally different version of ARK-2 with some form of high-tech tier.

[frigid prism]

I agree with you xd

That’s why we shouldn’t believe on these things… also I saw recently a concept art of Rex tek armor

I am pretty sure they changed a lot of stuff that they were planning at the beginning

[stray elm]

That was actually using the Salvaged-Tek concept. Also just debris from the Genesis-ship smacked onto a saddle for armor

[frigid prism]

And I don’t think that ark 2 is going to come out soon. ASA is making good money for them and their map remastered too

Maybe 2025 ends

I want to see genesis 2 on ASA, graphics are great

[stray elm]

My second biggest complaint, is that I really, REALLY fucking hope they redesign Vin-Diesels Santiago for Genesis-2 and ARK-2.
Because Jesus H. Christ, I want an interesting and compelling fictional character design. Not a self insert.

[frigid prism]

Hahahah, I think they did that because money and marketing

But yes, I hope they give us a new designed

[stray elm]

Yeah, I know.
And it's doing the opposite for me, that I want the product even less now.

[frigid prism]

Also I hope ARK 2 get better optimization, and same for ASA. I have a rtx 3060 and I want to play with at least high graphics but I can’t hahah

Even epic ones

I gotta play medium like at 30fps

And what makes ASA different is graphics and visuals

[stray elm]

Now that right there, you're asking too much for.

[frigid prism]

Maybe… maybe I should buy another graphic card hahah

Also for some reason I feel like new DLC ASA maps doesn’t have the same details that “the island”. The first time that we saw ASA, graphical difference was so noticeable, and with aberration for sure there is a difference with ASE, but I feel like isn’t that big

[stray elm]

I just hate how some locations on their more recent maps just look flat out dogshit to me.
Radiation zone being the biggest offender.

[frigid prism]

Yeah, they didn’t pay that attention for

Those details

Well good talk, I am going to bed

[crude jackal]

Hii

[whole sinew]

im going to let u know something ya'all

ark 2 is NOT coming this year (95%) Bcz they said its going to be released at late 2024/the end of 2024, and now we're on half of november the month before the last month in the year, and still not trailers, teasers or sneaks, nothing at all so 95% ARK 2 is not coming this year.

[distant nova]

hahaha ark 2 maybe is coming soso december ...

2025

[whole sinew]

well maybe

or 2026 cuz if it comes in 2025 ppl will ignore it and focus on GTA VI

[lean carbon]

im gonna be real ARK 2 isn’t coming until well after ASA is finished with content updates

until then I wouldn’t expect it. Why would they divert already necessary resources to release maps to a whole different game?

If they want it out within ASA’s lifespan either ASA needs to be outsourced to another development studio or ARK 2 needs to be outsourced

[worldly garden]

Thanks for letting us know Ark 2 isn't coming this year, we would never have figured it out otherwise. 🤣

[dapper falcon]

Will there be sheep 🐑 in Ark 2?

[dusky fjord]

...

[dapper falcon]

I mean Ovis.

[dusky fjord]

ah lol

[slate knoll]

1

[dusky fjord]

mm yes, 2

[patent forge]

If we‘re lucky it’ll be within the next decade

[pulsar bronze]

when will it come out

[whole sinew]

im giving u the reasons and proofs cuz there's some dumbfs still says "ItS cOmiNg tHiS yEaR"😂 🤣

[untold ingot]

Are there? I haven't seen any that are actually convinced of that

[finite arrow]

When is the release date?

[stray elm]

N/A

[true viper]

Unfortunately

[stray elm]

[tribal chasm]

Ark 1 was released to the public on June 2, 2015,
Maybe we will get some news for Ark's 10th anniversary?

[bitter nymph]

Maybe

[fallen vortex]

There might be an ark 2?!?

[dusky fjord]

omg YES IKR SO COOL

[true viper]

Honestly, at this point, I doubt we'll hear anything about Ark II before ASA is considered finished

Hate to say it, but that just might be how it is for now

[analog hamlet]

@waxen lynx

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

Ark mobile discord

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[deep patio]

I miss when people actually thought ark 2 was coming out😔

The bag was sold ridiculously hard

[thorny remnant]

I don’t like how it was pitched anyway

Single player story

[fallow niche]

It's not pitched as a singleplayer story game. It has both pce and pvp in the tags.

[topaz zodiac]

@muted cliff

[dapper falcon]

Be patient

And be positive.

[mortal bone]

No idea if Ark 2 ever comes out, but its just got banned from Steam Germany

[stray elm]

Do you have evidence of it being banned in Germany?

[mortal bone]

"This Product is not available in your Region"

[stray elm]

Screenshot please?

[mortal bone]

because missing age rating

[true viper]

Ark 2 is anti-EU propaganda

100 million copies pre-ordered

[mortal bone]

no permission to post screenshots

[stray elm]

To my DM's

[mortal bone]

send

[stray elm]

So, it's due to missing age rating?

[mortal bone]

yes

15.nov was the deadline

[stray elm]

[plucky marlin]

i really hope ark 2 is the exact same game as ark survival evolved, except every asset has a 2 after it

[fallow niche]

It's not 🙃

[true viper]

Thank god

[meager orbit]

… they said its not going to be pvp only pve

[stray elm]

They didn't, don't spread misinformation.
Dollie has stated it'll have both PvP and PvE

[meager orbit]

Well at the start they did but alr if that changed then cool

[stray elm]

Where did they state that?

[meager orbit]

Wel that i dont remember but it was like when they pitched it i think but I swear they said it somewhere

[hallow radish]

The gameplay is described as souls like

[stray elm]

Nothing on the trailers or the steampage, so wonder if it might've been a misconception you picked up when that shit spread like wildfire.

[meager orbit]

Maybe

Wasn’t there something about no explosives

[tropic frigate]

Hey!!! Why Ark 2 is not available in Germany for buing?

[meager orbit]

Maybe that was what picked up idk do

@stray elm you know if its out for us??

[tacit oak]

It isn't even out yet

[tropic frigate]

whatever, the page on steam is not available anymore

[tacit oak]

Maybe they are working on it or smth. But it isn't out anyways, so not much too care abt

[jade nimbus]

It's available in Belgium.

The steam page

[twin eagle]

you can already buy ark 2?

[fallow niche]

No, the steam/Microsoft pages are available to view though.

[fallow niche]

No, the combat system is souls-like, like Conan.

[clear oracle]

We’ll never be able to buy ARK 2 😆

[thick moat]

oh, ark 2 is restricted on germany, u can see it on steamdb in the metadata tab lol

[deft plinth]

because it is no longer being finished, nobody can see it anymore

[fallow niche]

It's an age rating thing, nothing at all to do with "it not being finished".

[deft plinth]

ok restricted only germany

lol

[fallow niche]

A lot of games had the same issue, it's Germany's restrictions on steam.

[deft plinth]

it only works for us because of the age restriction as far as i know and that's not important yet because it's still in development, right?

[fallow niche]

If there's not an age rating on it, it got removed, regardless of development status, if I'm understanding correctly. It has to have a visible age rating on the steam page.

[deft plinth]

ok

[jagged shore]

When will game release what's planed date?

[blissful perch]

@fallow niche can you magically find a way to imprint the answer to that question on people’s foreheads before they type here

Would save everyone time

[fallow niche]

[tepid hemlock]

Ark 2 will never make it. Money Grab on the old maps and then probably go under. That is what I think will happen. I wish they would hire me to come in and clean up their budgets and run their IT Projects. 🙂

[cold heath]

Ark 2 will never release, they can't even get ark 1 right, even after a 2nd try. Bunch of useless devs.

[worldly garden]

Read the discussion just above.

[jade nimbus]

Also, Ark 2 hasn't released?

[worn dawn]

No

[fallow niche]

No, but the store pages are still available for wishlisting. See the rest of the conversation above for why it was suddenly removed from Germany.

[jade nimbus]

Yeah I know

[fallow niche]

I think they meant since the store page released, not the game itself.

[rugged aspen]

souls like vs dinos xd

[fallow niche]

The combat system, not the game.

[solemn oak]

Ark 2 is an illusion to help keep us moving in life

[fleet lily]

lowk the game will never come

[modest oriole]

Is it techincally still suposed to come out end of this year, because there is only 1 month left

[true viper]

If it were coming out, we would have known by now

[modest oriole]

yeah true, but why havent they delayed it yet?

[true viper]

Who knows. Backlash would be my first guess.

Which yeah, it would suck, but I would hope that this is the last time.

[modest oriole]

yeah but surely the backlash is worse the later they delay it, and they will have to delay it at some point anyway

so they may as well get it over and done with

[true viper]

It entirely depends if they even have half a skeleton crew working on Ark II. For better or for worse ASA is the primary focus. ExtraLife cemented that.

[stray elm]

Probably just not worth talking about it when they're mostly focusing on ASA. No point in announcing it's been delayed when it's...well...kind of obvious.
When ASA is nearly done, and they actually start to focus more on ARK-2, we'll probably get more news.

[true viper]

It also comes down to "at what point is ASA done"

[modest oriole]

why is that a main focus ASA, surley ark 2 is more worth it

[true viper]

Cause I imagine that when Genesis starts getting worked on, there will be a want for a BTT expansion

[true viper]

Debts offset to Wildcard which were previously held by Snail

To the best of my knowledge that is

[stray elm]

They stated awhile ago they wanted to develop ASA alongside ARK-2, but a rumor was going around that someone highly important in Snail-Games stated that they're going to abandon ASA when ARK-2 releases.

[true viper]

Which they'd be right to imo

Realistically both games could have been worked on at the same time

[stray elm]

Depends on their team size

[true viper]

Right, and workload

[stray elm]

Jeremy just stated that their animation team is small, so depends.

[true viper]

Depends on what small equals to I would think, and if that's compared to other teams or not

You and I both know who could answer that question to at least some degree of accuracy

[stray elm]

They have around 100-or-so employees, no?

[true viper]

Right

[stray elm]

[true viper]

I would just hope that when they inevitably delay the game again, we at least see what if anything has been worked on.

[stray elm]

Only around 100 employees seems like a major stretch on the team if they where forced to split and work on two separate projects.

[stray elm]

They probably have internally, and are just going to put ARK-2 under the rug until ASA in finished.
Ignore that ARK-2 even happened.

To be fair, that shit was revealed **WAY ** too fucking early.

[true viper]

Na, I don't think it was revealed too early. Going off of the rendered trailers we got, and the most if not all of the concepts art being paint overs of in game assets, I would have to imagine that they had enough material to justify announcing the game

[stray elm]

It was revealed before Genesis-2 released, more or less spoiling the ending of it.
It was revealed early.

[true viper]

Fair enough on that front, perhaps a few months early

If I remember the timeline correctly

[stray elm]

It was revealed during the Game Awards alongside TAS in 2020.
Genesis-2 came out during June of 2021.

So they should've tried to wait till 2021's Game Awards if they wanted to reveal it without spoilers.

[true viper]

Fair I guess, but that didn't really say anything about the game at that time.

The original delay was fine enough, it was expected to a degree. The second one pushed it a bit, and now with this third one, I would hope they're not a 4th delay away from cancelling it all together.

[stray elm]

They're going to delays it a month to weeks before release.
They've done that for a majority of their products.

"Hey guys! ARK-2 is coming out on three weeks!"
-two weeks later.
"We're sorry to announce that ARK-2 has been delayed by four weeks. We hope that you understand."

[true viper]

Right, but with this current delay it's a bit different since there's be absolutely 0 news/info that's come out through official channels for close to if not a year

[stray elm]

Yep.
And they're probably going to stay like that until actual progress is made with the games development.

[true viper]

Unfortunately may be the case

[pastel pendant]

Ark 2 = fake news... will never happen

[chrome snow]

Unless they are already working on it I can't believe they will be able to afford creating it

[mint swan]

cant wait for ark 2 in 2035. vin diesel will be 70 by then

[muted goblet]

to be fair ark fans were kinda way too excited about the second game and I think theres way too many bugs theyre still fixing cause we DID rush them on that part so the animation series is a whole other thing that they still have to work on WITH extinction coming out in a month. I would not blame them if they put it off even more to work on stuff cause if they rush anymore shii we gonna get ark evolved extinction 😭 🙏

Like I get yall are excited but at least wait for a good product 🧍‍♀️dont complain when yall made them rush that its messy yk?

[true viper]

Those are all good points, but I would make the counter argument that the bugs present in ASA are due to too much of the game being a touch up compared to what a remake might have offered. There's too much baggage associated with the current game for it to have long term viability imo. I wouldn't blame them either if they had to delay it again (after this yet to be announced delay), but I would at least like to see what if anything has been worked on. I'm personally very open to a compromise.

[jade nimbus]

Absolutely

I just want to know something

A delay is better than no information

[true viper]

At the very least a delay implies development of a kind

[analog hamlet]

@sweet trench

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

Ark mobile discord

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[fallow niche]

@sweet trench this channel is for Ark 2, the sequel to Ark Survival Evolved/Ascended on PC/Console. Nothing to do with mobile. Join the discord above.

[knotty fog]

any news about ark 2 and release?

[foggy creek]

No

[elfin summit]

Maybe at least 2036

If depends of wildcard

[knotty fog]

dayum 😂

i tought something like 2/3 years

[clear oracle]

May as well be dead in the water, with no news in how long now?

My guess is they’ll give more info after they release all of the fun UE5 content for ASA

[glass moth]

@drowsy ibex @cunning talon @fickle flame Its getting close to the end of the year with no ark 2 updates... release is slated for end of this year. at least give us an update!

[worldly garden]

They pretty much said on the Extra Life stream that development is ongoing.

[dapper dagger]

Thats if we're lucky they prob will delay it to 2055

[untold ingot]

Wasn't gta6 more dead in the water for years? Doesn't really mean anything

[lofty harness]

Hi

[valid sequoia]

comparing ark to one of the most played games of all time is crazy

[hollow sierra]

Is ark 2 gonna release in 2024?

[wicked remnant]

Hell to the no

[pallid trellis]

wdym gta 6 was always going to come, they were rubbing it here and there and teasing us about it constantally but we always knew it was going to come.

[true viper]

I think he means in regards to info/news about the game

[untold ingot]

I remember people acting this same way about it lol

[tough perch]

@drowsy ibex @fickle flame @cunning talon @vale pike Don't forget us in Germany (FSK - Age rating new law for Games) or else we won't be able to play this game.. please i beg u read this and don't abandon us. 😭

[untold ingot]

Wait, Germany can't have 16+ games?

[tough perch]

They can but a new law says the game has to have an age rating or else u cant buy it on steam or else neather play it. @untold ingot

[untold ingot]

Well. I am pretty sure ark2 will have an age rating by the time it releases

[tough perch]

Hope so 😦

[dapper falcon]

I learned to be patient.

And positive.

[wooden hawk]

So when is ark 2 releasing?

[halcyon fiber]

In the distant future 😎

[mint swan]

3024

[mint swan]

all newborns r gonna be above it

[worldly marsh]

2077 when thw great war starts

[jade nimbus]

I hope we get to know more after Extinction Ascended releases.

[mortal moss]

is it normal im living in Germany and im was looking in my wishlist but ark 2 is there but no more details and it says that it is not featured in my country?

[fallow niche]

It's explained up here,
#ark-2 message

[frail creek]

Games are required to have a age rating on steam if the are supposed to show up in the german store. (Started 15. Nov) ARK 2 can use the form provided by steam to get the steam age-rating, which is enough to be visible again (usk age rating is not requiered for digital products)

[untold ingot]

So what we know from this chat so far is that the Germans ark players really want ark2 🤣

[clear hawk]

We are NOT getting Ark 2 anytime soon 🙏

[nimble meadow]

When the hell is ark 2 coming out wasn’t it delayed until end of 2024? Here we are and once again radio silence from wildcard

[alpine nacelle]

soon

I don’t think they have given a date. If anything they will say 2025

[gaunt moss]

Hii

[jade nimbus]

English please.

[unreal sable]

When update?

[spare cliff]

Ark mobile beta pls

[jade nimbus]

We don't know yet hopefully somewhere in 2025

nah I hope it isn't

they need the cash for ark 2 I'm guessing

[worldly garden]

This isn't mobile, this is Ark 2.

[warm dirge]

My character I’m assuming got deleted with the server it was on. And the submit a ticket is disabled. So anyone have an idea how I can get my character back cause it had all the nodes and boss fights done?

[worldly garden]

Holy moly! no-one reading all that! 🤣

[glossy cipher]

Fr

[tribal chasm]

"Instanced rendering and network-streaming enable much higher client and server performance for large, player-built structures"
See, it would be nice to have a few years of Ark 2 that was similar to the first few maps/xpacs of Ark, even if it power creeps into Gen 2 again by the end of it ... at least let us enjoy a few years of the primitive life. However that quote kinda alarms me, implies you will start off being able to make a massive base and have heaps of dinos

[dusky fjord]

PLEASE dont be like fallout 🙏🙏

if you know, you know 💀

[distant juniper]

guys did we get any new news about ark 2

couse i dont feel like watching clickbait youtube videos like "no way this is happening to ark 2..."

[dusky fjord]

wow ok

[worldly garden]

Not really no. It's still clearly being developed but no real news on it.

[untold ingot]

The only way to limit that (without some intense algorithm targeting large bases) is to severely limit harvest quantity

[true viper]

Honestly, that can only be a positive. With any sandbox game that incorporates base building, you will always have a contingent of people who try to build a single building at a massive scale, it's one of those instances where the players are out of the developers control.

[untold ingot]

Lame?

[pliant ember]

wait this game is still coming out

[true viper]

Presumably

Just a matter of when

[dusky fjord]

no, they made promises never come true 😭

[delicate crescent]

I recon it’ll only come out when asa is done

Since they will finish bobs tales as a perfect lead up to it

[worldly garden]

Bob's Tales will finish with Extinction.

[true viper]

It's kind of odd that it's stopping at Extinciton and not carrying on into Genesis 1 and 2 tbh

[worldly garden]

Not really, because Bob's story ended with Extinction, so there'd be no tales for him in Genesis.

[true viper]

Fair yeah, I could just be reading too much into the soft Ark II aspect of BTT

Feels kind of odd that Bob as a character would telling Nica all about the first 4 canon maps, and skip out on the Genesis simulation and ship, all the while he's telling her the stories on Arat

[fallow niche]

Meeka

[true viper]

Right, thank you lol

[stray elm]

His story starts on Arat?

Or do you meant TAS Bob?

[queen pebble]

Was ark 2 releasing in the end of 2024?

[stray elm]

'Was'
Unless they shadow drop it, it's probably been non-verbally delayed.

[queen pebble]

Yeah ok, there is no official release date yet?

[rigid jay]

"late 2024"

[stray elm]

Outside of 2024, nope.

[rigid jay]

take from that what you want

[queen pebble]

Alright, thanks for the answer

[true viper]

December 32nd 2024

[queen pebble]

There isn't a 32nd December xD

[true viper]

Whose gonna tell him

[stray elm]

That's the joke.

[queen pebble]

I knew that

[stray elm]

Suuuuuuuure

[queen pebble]

lol

[narrow wraith]

Official news ARK 2 IS GOING TO RELESE 08.12.2026

[elder fog]

...

[narrow wraith]

Its official but we must include delays becouse its ARK of course

Honestly i know when silksong is going to relese too

[red matrix]

0% chance gen 2 wont even be out by 2026

[dusky fjord]

nuh uh

[stable anvil]

It's gonna release when ASA is finished

[lavish dome]

Bro Ark 2 shouldn't even be made a separate game just make it an ab style map with restrictions, for instance weaponry, dinos only on that map

[true viper]

Surely you can do all of that already in the current game

[left siren]

Alright nerds it's almost end of 2024, where is ark 2

[languid grove]

2026 coming probably

[narrow wraith]

8.12.2026

[blazing valve]

32.13.4024

[languid hamlet]

That joke has been so unfunny for years I don’t understand why people keep making it

[blissful perch]

Hey can you preach this louder please

[steep hedge]

It'll be out within 2030 ngl if wildcard puts everything into it while constantly bug fixing ascended and releasing map and then bug fixing then when jt releases they will add maps which Will take by 2032? Maybe I suck w math

[quaint moat]

It’ll be out 2030/1/1 With the island map only

It will take them a year to fix the mistakes.

After this, every year they release a map.

Is it possible to complete the game by 2040?

[fallow niche]

How is Ark2 going to have the Island when it's a separate game

[split dove]

Lights are on, but nobody's home. Heck, it seems the home was never sold and haunted by ghosts instead

[odd gyro]

late 2024 my ass

[serene onyx]

Urm ark 2 won’t have the island

[light forum]

We're gonna get Gta 6 before Ark 2.

[hardy plaza]

What’s the difference between ascended and ark 2

[true viper]

One has a 2 after it

[lusty bluff]

Nah Elder Scrolls 6

[lusty dagger]

cheese

[stray elm]

At this rate, it's unironically more possible to get Half-Life 3 then it is ARK-2

[worldly garden]

Family

[hardy plaza]

What

[quasi pawn]

lol

[stable anvil]

2025: Ragnarok, Valguero, Gen 1, Crystal Isles! 2026: Gen 2, Lost Island, Fjordur, the Mystery Story map and then maybe Ark 2

[untold ingot]

Yeah, maybe. Ark2 might come out sooner though

[rugged rampart]

That time-line is a joke.... not happening as long as the same I-D-10-T's are running it..... they need to get someone with less smashed bulbs in the box to run the shit show and replace all the burnt out bulbs 💡 😒!!!

[worldly garden]

I wouldn't say it's a joke, they've been doing 3 months between maps for the last couple of maps.

[whole sinew]

My theory : ARK 2's name will be ARK: The Future

cuz the category for ark 2 named "Ark: the future

Honestly it would be a good name

[fallow niche]

It's just Ark 2 XD

[sharp light]

Ark: Family edition

Cuz vin diesel

[slate knoll]

1

[worldly garden]

The #ark-animated-series channel used to be under Ark: The Future. It's just a category for future stuff that hasn't released yet.

[whole sinew]

Oh

That was a good theory

Ark names sucks sadly
Ark animated series? That looks like ur telling someone a story or smth
Ark 2?
This is bad

Ark survival evolved was awesome

[dusky tiger]

is ark 2 still coming out end of this year?

[true viper]

If God were good, yes. Most likely not.

[formal oracle]

You didn't hear??? The news???

[true viper]

Dawgs really playing with my emotions rn

[true viper]

What news

[formal oracle]

Nahhh you haven't??

That sucks

[true viper]

Bros playing with me

[gentle frigate]

damn ark 2 is still not out and 2024 ended

I remember when they said it would release in one of the quarters of 2024 I think Q3

[gentle frigate]

Ong 😭

[dapper falcon]

There is always next year

[true viper]

What is it blood

[formal oracle]

I forgot

[true viper]

💀

[candid sage]

do you guys think ARK 2 can be played just like ASE? not the "team up-with legendary heroes" not with human npcs or whatever they are thinking about

[fallow niche]

It has multi-player pvp and pve in the description/tags.

[candid sage]

so it can be played just like ASE?

[fallow niche]

Honestly, we don't know how any gameplay is going to work. They haven't said.

[severe nymph]

The developers have to finish the game first before any body knows how the game play is gonna work. I just wish they could fix ASA first

[wise brook]

The thing that scares me already is "souls-like combat" that was said a while back, all it gets me thinking is the 300 ping official servers with freezes 💀

Like really need to sort out how servers work in ASA or it's going to be a disaster

[limpid lion]

Are there any updates as to ark 2s releases day last i heard it was end of 2024 but we only have one month left...

[elder olive]

Dec 12 game awards but highly doubt it will show something there

[silent kelp]

did i fr just waste my money buying asa?

r they fr releasing ANOTHER game??

[harsh spear]

why they gotta wait last minute to delay for another year ?

[worldly garden]

Not any time soon no.

[cosmic zinc]

do you think all dlc will be included in this game to dont have any other investment 🤔 ?

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 is a completely new game. There has been no dlc announcement, and I highly doubt they'll add dlcs from ASA/ASE to it, considering.

[blissful perch]

Anyone see the Steam announcement that season passes have a 3 month release timer now? Seems relevant to ark 2

[fallow niche]

Why though? It's a new game, not a dlc or pass

[compact belfry]

idk if i bought asa will i hab to pay for ark 2

[fallow niche]

Yeah, it's a whole new game...

[compact belfry]

sad and which map i should go for pvp sv

[fallow niche]

Don't know. Use #ark-survival-ascended or #general or #pvp-discussion for anything that is not Ark 2.

[compact belfry]

ok

[harsh spear]

obviously there hasnt been a dlc annoucement, the game isnt out yet 😄

if they plan to include stuff like bobs tall tales they better to do it inside the base-game price. pay2win is a red flag for most people.

[fallow niche]

Pinging me in this was unnecessary. If you're going to rant about any p2w aspects of ASA, keep it in #ark-survival-ascended or another channel above. As you've just stated, there has been no mention of any dlc or p2w content.

[true viper]

If it's relevant to Ark II in any respect, it would be a post release thing I would think.

[stray elm]

Would've been more relevant for the original ASE season passses.

[sweet token]

Ark 2 without issues please

Please dont ban me

[true viper]

Every game is going to have issues in one way or another

[sweet token]

Yeah you're right, just joking around ☺️✨️

[blissful perch]

means we can't see an asa style season pass

[stray elm]

ASE

Pretty sure ASA doesn't have a season pass yet.

Oh wait, I'm fucking dumb

BTT, I forgor.

[fallow niche]

Depends on the laws when Ark 2 releases

[blissful perch]

well it's not a law either way...it's a steam policy

[stray elm]

It's a steam policy

[fair pasture]

sooo

whatup with ark 2?

[stray elm]

Gone
Reduced to atoms

[fair pasture]

I see

[jade nimbus]

It will release

Sometime...

Maybe next year, maybe in 2030, maybe when we are all 80 years old. Nobody knows.

[ruby halo]

when is ark 2 comeinng out\

[shut venture]

is ark 2 even real

like im convinced its fake

[true viper]

For better or for worse, ASA has taken priority.

[night pine]

I think all the big gaming companies need to commune and make a game similar to the game in the movie, “Ready Player 1”. I think having one of those haptic boot suits would be so friggin wicked 😭

[true viper]

That would be a disaster and a half

[untold ingot]

Would cost your soul

[harsh spear]

u can already do it in VR with a treadmill and hand tracking. so the full fleshed experience isnt far away at this point.
but the reality is that most people prefer to play chill at their desktop and not with giant glasses on their head. also VR loses its immersiveness after u used it a bunch of times cuz ur brain realizes its fake.

[harsh spear]

i think what ARK 2 needs the most is a goal , something to work towards.
When u played this game for a while ( which most people did ) ur kinda just doing the same thing over again and it feels like a wayste of time.
And lest be honest, survival isnt at all what this game is based around. When u have a base ur not surviving, u are advancing.

if the game was based around surviving, dieing would mean that u lose all progress.
but all that happens is that u need to get back to your body and collect it which feels like a wayst of time in itself.

[harsh spear]

thinking about it.. hardcore mode on officials might actually pop off for this game. creates a challenge. It did hype up WoW, so may as well work for ARK.

[tribal chasm]

There's way too many cheaters/exploits, client crashes, and server crashes for a hardcore mode to ever be plausible for Ark.

[harsh spear]

i guess youre right..

though technically it would be possible. just gotta fix crashes and have some active moderators who try to detect cheaters. game is still in early access mind you.

cheaters are like a plague. if you dont do something about them they multiply cuz more people feel priviliged to cheat through the absence of punishment.

if your character is lost through a server crash for example, you could still make a support ticket and they could reset the character for you.

but if it happens on a regular base, then yea its not worth doing a hardcore mode in the first place.

[blissful perch]

IMO survival is as much about challenging PvE and environmental conditions as it is about the fear of death

Mostly because a non-hardcore major death penalty makes everyone play like a coward

[harsh spear]

if u have to play like a coward it means taming creatures one by one like the game is intended to be played. and not going for the best in slot immediatly.

or in other words, because u want to stay save, u would tame creatures u would otherwise ignore.

[blissful perch]

I’d rather that same outcome come about because people have a progression system and because taming tons of stuff at once is unattainable

For example if taming required more player involvement (say like any number of the new creatures) such that you can’t tame tons of stuff at once - and/or if taming stuff required “creature knowledge” gained from interacting with them

[untold ingot]

Active moderation for every ark server is quite literally an impossible task. Not to mention a very expensive one

Same way they do in every other mode

[desert marlin]

Going with my idea for an Ark 2 mod where you progress via experimenting with the world around you.

Maybe you could learn details about the creature as you observe them.

[frail mantle]

Hey will ark2 have microtransactions?

[true viper]

Yeah, 99 cents per tame

[fierce heart]

Is there any update on a release date other than the obsolete “late 2024” from last year?

[stray elm]

No

[harsh spear]

im worried that because they have ARK, ASA and then ARK 2 the playerbase will be split too much in between all of those games.
It would be better for all of use if they funnelled all their ressources into 1 thing.
its also bad speaking of a marketing perspective. if u split the playerbase, ur game wont show up under the top recommendations in say youtube or twitch, because viewers are split in between each category.

[stray elm]

That's not a complete black and white situation, my man.

Many games have alienated their original fans, yet still gain revenue.
Because they just gain new fans.

The Fallout IP has three instances of this.
Fallout 3 alienated the original top-down fanbase, yet it still sold due to appealing to newer fans.
Fallout 4 alienated Fallout 3/New Vegas fans, due to the more dumbed down RPG elements and forced narrative. Yet, it still sold well.
Fallout 76 alienated basically everyone from any previous installments, but yet again, it gained a new community.

Is it good to alienate previous players? That's up for you to decide.
But the fact is, alienating doesn't matter when you can sell a good product.
ARK-2 might split the community even more then it is now, but if it's a good enough game, the new community it'll form from new players will overshadow any complaints the original community has.

[harsh spear]

u have a point.
however looking at how things are currently,
ASE has 16.6k current players in steam landing 53th place in steam charts.
ASA has 11.3k current players in steam landing 80th place in steam charts.
with 27.9k current players combined in one game, they would land 25th place in steam charts.

This is just an example but its showing that because the playerbase is split, its not reaching the top spots.
A lot of people look at the most popular played games on twitch for example, and they wouldnt look so far down the list to eventually find one of the ARK games.

And those big numbers are not easily overshadowed by a new game. Like sure, the release of ARK 2 might gather tons of new players but in the long run the split playerbase will hurt the game because its not reaching new players as effectively.

If the new title would be majorly better, distinct from its ancestor and brings in new elements then sure, it might just work out.

[sullen flare]

when is ark 2 coming out

[slate holly]

When will be release on IOS?

[slate holly]

Good question

[sullen flare]

i thought it was in late 2024

we almost in 2025

[worldly garden]

Ark 2 is not what is coming to Mobile... you need to join the mobile discord.

[rich ledge]

Hiiii my name is srinibas

[verbal sleet]

Oh

[analog hamlet]

@slate holly

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

Ark mobile discord

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[dusk aurora]

When does ARK 2 come out?

[latent vector]

@analog hamlet It's very quiet there

[onyx marlin]

Release date currently is late 2024 so between now and the last day of December unless they announce a delay

[untold ingot]

You said this at midnight too in us, so the entirety of the US playerbase is sleeping

[waxen fable]

Hey how ya been

[tidal marsh]

B

[blissful perch]

Did you post that here? I had been talking about that years ago, but I’m eager to see what your idea looks like

[desert marlin]

No, I've got it written in my noggin though.

I also had an idea for a Neanderthal Hermit who buys food and gives items, the individual nutritional value & quality of the food is your currency.

So it'd be like "I want a Prepared-Grade Meal item with a fruit value of 54 and a 6 dairy value, in return you get this really good Obsidian Axe head"

[blissful perch]

Seems pretty complex. I had figured you were talking more about needing to kill/interact with X creatures to learn how to make their saddle, ride them, do certain actions with them, etc

[true viper]

Hey man, long time. I've been good. What about you!?

[waxen fable]

hey, good as well. just looking around after been so long

[pallid knoll]

@stray elm @stray elm fallout 3 and new Vegas were the goat. Someone needs to put Todd Howard in a stray jacket fallout 4 is 💩

[true viper]

Good man, great to hear. Not much has really changed if I'm being quite honest.

[stray elm]

Yeah, the point wasn't if Fallout 4 is good or not to the old community. It's that by the end of the day, if the product is pleasing enough to garner a new audience, it doesn't matter if the developers alienate their older community.

Another example I just remembered was Baldur's Gate 3.
It's a turn-based RPG, and gained huge attraction and is seen as a good game.
Yet, one can argue it also alienated their original community by making the BG series into a different genre. As BG1/2 where more Diablo-like instead of turn-based. As well as retconning some aspects of the original BG1/2 story.

[pallid knoll]

Yeah I know.im excited for ark two and enjoyed asa although I stopped playing not long after transfers opened for the island. Been playing ark since Ragnarok ASE. I will play both ark 2 and asa when I have more time available. Assuming ark two is any good of course

I've never tried Diablo but I get your point I thought Skyrim was awesome but personally Morrowind was great and oblivion was better then Skyrim aswell

[stray elm]

Yeah, so you get my point?
If a game is seen as appealing to a wider audience, it doesn't matter if the developers alienate their original community/what the original identity of the IP was about. As long as the product is entertaining and good to the majority, it doesn't matter what the minority thinks anymore.
As the example you gave, Skyrim is a dumbed down version of Oblivion/Morrowind with its RPG and story. Yet if I recall right, Skyrim is in the top-10 most best-selling games of all time.

[pallid knoll]

Yeah I get your point

Not really sure if the numbers match my impression but in the case of battlefield I think they have near beaten the franchise to death.

[sweet cipher]

i unironically hope ark ASE just goes off the steam store when ASA is actually complete with all maps

yes it sucks that theyre removing a copy of ark from everyone steam library but like ARK ASA is just the better game (when it releases), and people need to get over it

[stray elm]

That's not how that'd work

[desert marlin]

I was talking about a different idea dude. My idea for tame research is so as you observe behaviors, information about the creature is put into you implant, and after about 25% of the Dossier is filled, you'll start getting taming method suggestions, you test these suggestions until you find one or two that work, and then test out the creature to complete the Dossier.

[stray elm]

Removing a product from being visable doesn't remove it from your libary

[sweet cipher]

yeah i kinda thought about it after i wrote that

[true viper]

Even then, consumers should have choice

[sweet cipher]

i wonder how that works

they shouldve just updated ark ASE to be unreal engine 5 then lol

[true viper]

Removing ASE from steam all together wouldn't be wise move on WCs part

[stray elm]

If they where to do that, they'd pull a Skyrim and just make Survival Evolved hidden like Legacy Edition, but can still be bought if you have a link.

And yeah, that'd be a shit idea if they did do that.

ASE has aspects not even ASA has.
Biggest difference is artistical differences.

[sweet cipher]

ase has stuff that asa doesn't have because asa isn't complete yet

[stray elm]

ASA will never have ASE's artstyle, unless they remake ARK-1 a second time.
The Island in ASA is completely different in an artistical form then the ASE one.

ASA is a remake/remaster (what the fuck ever you want to call it) of ASE.
While they should 100% push for new players to buy ASA. ASE shouldn't be removed from the store, as any original product should.
Especially now with game preservation being an issue.

[true viper]

It's honestly for the best if the ASE/A gameplay formula gets retired

If it were a remake and not a soft remaster it might be a different story

[sweet cipher]

i do refuse to believe people think ASE is the better game, especially with all the ini and physics issues its got
(im not saying ASA is right now good at all, but its a step in the right direction and it will definitely be better i think when it completes)

[stray elm]

Then refuse all you want. Doesn't change facts that especially now with some content creators are starting to complain how the ASA maps look pretty bad in an artistical view compared to ASE.
Tiia calling it 'Muddification' because everything looks brown.

[true viper]

All the more reason to just let it die imo.

[sweet cipher]

i agree, all the maps look way too desert like lmao

[true viper]

the ASE/A formula has over stayed its welcome.

[cloud ocean]

Timers are broken

[stray elm]

That has nothing to do with the gameplay, my man.

If this is their art team, it'll look the same in ARK-2.

[true viper]

Gameplay matters as well, both ebb and flow out of each other to a certain extent.

Yeah the over saturation of sandstone rocks is pretty messy visually speaking, but even if that weren't the case, ASA would still just be ASE with some slight improvements.

Not to mention the frankensteining of the engine itself

The tough pill to swallow with ASE/A is that there's no 'fixing' it

Artistically, gameplay wise. We have what we do.

[stray elm]

Going to get back to work, but final point is that all aspects of a video game matter.
A game doesn't need a story, but if it's going to have one, it should bother having a good/decent one.
A game doesn't need the most complex gameplay, but if it's going to bother having multiple mechanics, it should try to merge all the mechanics together harmoniously.
A game doesn't need great graphics, but it should at least bother with a good/decent artstyle. Because this'll be what I'm staring at for the next 12+ hours.

Also, yeah there is 100% fixing ASA's artstyle.

[sweet cipher]

game could be fixed for sure

i do wonder, is it snail games that are kinda bringing the game down or is it wildcard?

[true viper]

Someone, probably contractors, could go back and adjust a few things about the maps. That's something that could physically happen, but until that does, there's no changing what we have.

[frail mantle]

What do you mean by this? What exactly is the formula?

[true viper]

The gameplay style. It's underdeveloped and not very engaging. Biggest offender in this regard is creature AI. Very simple and predictable.

Barely any dynamic elements to it

even then, most creatures don't really feel nice to operate, and if they do it's considered a feature of that creature. IE turning in place, strafing, Amargas (yet to be ported) movement toggle.

[frail mantle]

I like your scope of game design. I think it's a good polarization of elements to balance.

I would like to hear your opinion on the topic of generating revenue. What does the business model look like?

[frail mantle]

This. As far as gameplay mechanics go, I think creature AI ends up being the first thing that breaks the immersion of AsE.

I would want to have the team watch an African plain and consider how to emulate that.

[true viper]

Right, and as far as I can tell there's no public want on Wildcards part to what to reimagine creature AI.

Can't really blame them either, it's just the way things are.

[frail mantle]

Well, to be fair, they have to eat, you know? What they want, and what we get are not necessarily the same thing.

[true viper]

Right and I get that. But from a general audience perspective it's a bit frustrating considering Ark II has been shelved in favor of a game that I don't think can be 'fixed' in the way people would like to see it fixed.

Like there's a lot of things modders are capable of, and do very well. Nicks Diamantiono, Als Meraxes, Tristans mods etc which I made limited contributions to, mainly the saddle attachment gimmicks and what not, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the status and quality of the vanilla game you know.

It's partially why I would have preferred ASA to be a remake than a remaster

[copper hatch]

There trying to Polish up a turd . But in the end it's still a peace of shit

[frail mantle]

But again they have to eat. If you trace this IP through the lense of business generating revenue to keep their dream alive; yes, mistakes were made; but what else were they gonna do?

If they could not generate money, they could not pay their team. Their business model relied on new product sales, so they were forced to stop polishing the original game and had to focus on DLC and porting to new platforms.

You can see from the primitive + DLC that these guys still had a vision but they literally could not afford to pursue it and stay open.

AsA is a cash grab to both stay relevant in terms of industry standards and experience with the new game engine to develop Ark 2.

*edit grammar

[true viper]

Everyone has to eat, you're not saying anything with that. Mistakes are always going to be made in any industry you're in. I don't blame Wildcard for the status of ASE, it was their first game and it caught more fire than they expected it to. The financial reason behind ASA being a thing in the first place is to pay off the debts held by Snail after they went bankrupt on a ridiculous EV venture that sought to put gaming PCs in electric vehicles. Wildcard themselves are doing pretty well financially, it's their publisher that's making people think they're going through hard times.

Be that as it may, it doesn't take away from the fatigue of current iteration of the game. Even with Bobs Tall Tales, Fantastic Tames, The DLCs and accompanying creatures, it's putting a bandaid on a gaping wound that is the underlying playstyle and fludity of the game itself. It's been nearly 10 years of the same thing, with some new changes along the way. The novelty has worn off for the most part.

[tribal chasm]

Disagree, Pokemon has stayed with the same formula for like 25+ years and still as popular as ever

[true viper]

Pokemon is well thought out as a game, Ark is a messy stacking on of many different elements.

be they balance or technical

[frail mantle]

Man, I'm glad you said that. That's a really good point. I need to do a little gome work on publisher and developer before I start talking financial and developmental motivation.

I may be in the wrong discord. I think we need to start considering the business side of this industry a little more.

Most game studios are not going to have prodigy coders that will produce quality products in unreasonable times. Therefore, game publishers have to decide if they are going to try to make millions, or make games.

Consumers are victim to the human nature of falling in love with the idea of something, instead of the thing, and publishers like EA knows it, which is why they sell us ideas, not games. And it would seem that we could all just learn from their track record and boycott these publishers, but ..it's human nature. That would take a massive once in a lifetime collective initiative like the gamestop stock debacle and that's never going to happen here.

Consumers need to consider legit ways for game makers to make money, without selling out to Activision. We need to look at micro transactions and season passes and subscriptions and decide what is fair.

I think cosmetic microtransactions is a good place to start. Skyrim would not have sold across 3 generations of Xbox consoles if it had not been for modding. Cosmetic microtransacrions provide fresh content and revenue for a game. What that would look like for a game like ark, idk, but if we don't figure out a business model that allows game developers to polish games, we will continue to be disappointed the majority of the time.

Edit: added the rest of what i was saying after accidentally sending before I was done. 😏

[true viper]

There's also a catch to cosmetic microtransactions where it runs the risk of sullying the artstyle of the game. Look at recent games like the the various CoD titles or Halo. Most of the paid for cosmetics in that game take you out of the experience of the world you're otherwise meant to be inhabiting. Too much of them, frankly all of them in my opinion are a bad thing, they're just never done in a faithful way to the feel and texture of the game they're in.

Frankly I think that if you're relying on your audience to pay for additional content in a game that isn't a DLC or an expansion, you're not sending positive signals to your audience.

If it's modders doing it, it's one thing. They aren't intrinsically attached to the studio making the game, but if the studio decides that they're going to go out of their way to introduce art assets that take away from the flavor of the game.

I'm talking about stupid things like neon colored x y z, commodified carnival giftbag trash

[fallow niche]

Bring it back to Ark 2 please. Can move this to #ark-survival-ascended since it's really about ASA/ASE.

[blissful perch]

Ahhh, thanks for clarifying! That’s pretty cool tbh, and I’d support it

[untold ingot]

In the age before generative Ai I would have said this is needlessly complicated, but with Ai to streamline things this would be really simple to implement.

[untold ingot]

I see this argument a lot. And it's a somewhat valid point. It is very difficult to generate new different content on a regular basis in quantity enough for staying in business due to the high level of complexity and detail in today's products. The issue I see with paid cosmetics however is that it is the easy way out for funding. It doesn't add anything impactful. Nor does lend to motivation to make the game better (subscriptions dont either). Imo those are better as supplementary to a better monitization. Ase did dlc very well imo, it was a huge amount of impactful content released all at once, and I think that is something that people get upset with in Asa since it is coming out as more of a trickle of small instances at a time. Moving on to ark2 I am interested to see how they actually fund it going forward. My hope is that the return back to the original ase framework rather than the incremental additions like Asa.

[radiant fiber]

This game is never going to be released

[desert marlin]

Just like we are never going to Mars

Maybe it's an allegory?

[outer mist]

my bet is that we go to mars before its released

[radiant fiber]

Nah, science tells us we will, just maybe not us

[radiant fiber]

no, not happening

[next birch]

Science says we will get GTA 6 before ARK 2

[plain osprey]

😂😂

[desert marlin]

One thing that's been unclear so far is if we play AS Vin Diesel or if he is a separate character

I personally would love to have that answered

[tribal chasm]

I think Ark 2 should have more incentive for players to be on the same server, instead of the thousands of servers which have only a few players on each.
Even on PvP gamemodes this can be partially achieved by making maps larger, and raiding mechanics much more challenging, in both logistics and preparation.

[tropic copper]

bro we got ark survival ascended before gta 6

thats ark 2

[desert marlin]

Aye, no cryopods, all my homies hate cryopods

[desert marlin]

No Vin Diesel

[sharp light]

Ark Family edition

I'd like a checklist of items collected and dinos tamed in Ark 2, feed my completionism

[lament osprey]

It’s a remaster not another game.

[desert marlin]

Technically, the Dossiers do this in Ark 1, but it only triggers once per character

[fallow niche]

Ark Survival Ascended is not Ark 2. Looking at the category (Ark: The Future) alone will tell you that.

[tropic copper]

Sorry I'm just dumb

[sharp light]

Yeah i know would be cool to have those trigger once you tame something kinda like pokemon pokedex entries lol

[harsh spear]

is there any screenshots or gameplay footage for ark 2 ?

[fallow niche]

Not gameplay, anything would be pinned here.

[raven eagle]

i personally would like to see mantling being a thing make climbing better

[past lintel]

Is this still 2024???

[harsh spear]

no

we have seen no gameplay, nothing and they are known for delays. and marketing wise it would stupid af to not show anything about a game and then randomly release it all of the sudden.

[desert marlin]

To think the last piece of news we got about Ark 2 was about the Fishing

[sweet cipher]

is ark 2 even gonna be pvp

[fallow niche]

Yes, pinned messages has store pages and wiki.

[wanton sandal]

But we're never going to get GTA 6

So no ark 2 then

[weary knoll]

Guys ARK 2 was promised before the end of the end of the year! They are going to suprise drop it on us 🙂 i cant wait!

[true viper]

I would hope so

[knotty steppe]

Hi

[true viper]

Hey

[short barn]

Ngl I think ark 2 is not coming

It kindaseems like it rn

[true viper]

More than likely

I would still at least like to see something new when they announce the delay

[feral summit]

look

[desert marlin]

Honestly, why I like the primitive feel, I also find it could be an excellent springboard to flesh out more technology that Ark 1 just skips over.

Advanced Metallurgy would definitely be one I'd love to see, especially since we will have multiple avenues to craft the same item, just with different effects.

[pseudo gust]

I mean with ascended not finished they wouldnt push ark 2 trough they already have their hands full on ascended lol

[blissful perch]

I agree - it’s a crazy common misconception that ark 2 being primitive means it’s devoid of complexity or progression. Would be great to see more metalworking, flint working, and wood working

[mint swan]

yap

[analog hamlet]

@lime apex

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

Ark mobile discord

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

[fallow niche]

@olive socket @serene jetty join the mobile discord above. This channel is for Ark2. It has nothing to do with mobile.

[lime apex]

?

[rough edge]

a few days ago ark 2 just got delisted from steam in germany because it doesnt have an age rating

[left marlin]

Doesnt even matter listed or not since its not gonna be ready in a few years (if not at all ) my opinion

[short barn]

I think they secretly abandoned ark 2, there just focusing on ascended

[thick pagoda]

hi

[true viper]

Of all the things they could do, this isn’t it

[short barn]

Lol fr just focus on ascended

[true viper]

Unfortunately

[junior jungle]

Evolded or ascended

[hearty sapphire]

who even is vin desiel, ark is like crediting him in their game but idek him

[elder olive]

What i don't get is they delaying the announcement to a delay💀

Like highly doubt ark 2 will release this month. Just announce a delay already

Or they just shadowdrop like ark ascended but. But asa had some updates ark 2 doesn't lmao

[desert mulch]

💀

[left marlin]

Where do you even see that ark 2 will be released this month?

[desert mulch]

bro look up schduled release date now cmon

it was supposed to be late 2024

[fallow niche]

It's the last month of 2024, and the only date we had was end of 2024, so people are speculating

[left marlin]

Ooh like that.. i only checked steamstore and that date has been gone for months now

[true viper]

I would hope it comes out in early access by this year at the very least

[left marlin]

If i may say.. my best guess after asa is done

[true viper]

That’s probably more realistic tbh

Hate to say it, but that’s how it’s looking atm

[left marlin]

If it was actually this month or atleast jan. Or so im almost sure there was a date on the steamstore.. they removed that so yeah.. but this is my best guess

[true viper]

To the best of my knowledge developers typically announce the date before Steam does

It’s more of an after the fact kind of thing for Steam

[left marlin]

There was a date on it when they added it on the steamstore for a long while

And then it got removed and replaced to be announced

So yeah just pray for it that it will come end next year

[true viper]

Yeah. If it does get delayed again, I would at least like to see what has been done with the time since the last delay.

[left marlin]

I really dont follow the news on that so i dont get my hopes up , but if there is no new news probably not alot

[calm scaffold]

me n my friends little theory is the game awards will MAYBE be a small gameplay showcase with a new delayed date

i mean its 100% delayed but theres been 0 news so

why not there

even though theres a vocal minority hating on the soulslike third person combat theres ALOT of people i know that are excited and waiting for ark 2

they just announced it way too early for how much they want in the game content wise

plus boasting the future of survival games begins with ark 2 which i do believe but its a LOT of work as weve seen with the now third delay

[last crag]

Yo

Is. This ark 2 mobile?

[fallow niche]

No. Please read the pins. This is for the pc/console sequel Ark 2. Mobile has a separate discord.

[weary knoll]

Guys im sorry i baited you. i said this with ZERO intentions that this game will be coming out even by end of 2025.

[pulsar umbra]

Well, I hope that by the end of this year, we'll get some news about Ark 2...

[grim kestrel]

To be honest if development was far enough along to provide anything we would have gotten more information they said we would have last year, so to be honest I think I'd rather them come out and say they will be working on Ark 2 but no date expectation at this time and instead keep pushing more content for ASA in the meantime to keep us occupied.

[lucid igloo]

Wasn't Asa announced in March 2023 and release October 25, 2023?

When was Ark 2 announced?

It feels like ASA came from nowhere

Maybe is just me

[untold ingot]

Lol, no. We knew about if from early 2022 iirc. It wasn't officially announced until April 2023 though. But it definitely didn't come out of nowhere

[worldly garden]

We didn't know about ASA until April 2023 when it was announced.

Ark 2 was announced in Dec 2020.

[untold ingot]

As a meme we had known about it for like a year before.

We knew they were working on it almost since ue5 release

[spare hollow]

Hoping ark 2 gets delayed for as long as possible so that its as polished as possible and we at the very least dont just get ark ascended 2.0

[untold ingot]

Well it's 4 years so far, so your dream is coming true

[grim kestrel]

ASA was released to help provide funding and keep us occupied with Ark 2 not being ready to release.

And ASA has plenty of room to grow and become something great so it would be perfectly fine to let it grow into it own identity away from ASE. They should just announce that development is and will continue but will continue in silence until Ark 2 is in a place it ready for the public.

[calm scaffold]

i expect a third delay 100% cause i know making good games is a long and tedious process but anything past late 2025 is much too long

4-5 years of development is absolutely enough time for an early access title (assuming they started developing after the announcement and not beforehand for some time)

i do hope they talk about atleast some confirmed mechanics with this delay though

i honestly kinda hope some rendition of the way Atlas's server transfering works is put into ark 2 to make all the servers connect into one big "world"

that was the one unique cool thing i actually liked about atlas

[lucid igloo]

I mean cyberpunk was delayed for years and turned out bad

Or I heard it's better now

[distant juniper]

yeah its really good now.

[tribal chasm]

I hope there is some tames in Ark 2 which can be tamed easily, without a specialist method
Imagine Pokemon but you have to remember 1000 ways to catch them all, rather than just throwing a Pokeball

[blissful perch]

I mean…you can always have it written down ingame lol. I’m hoping ark 2 has NO places where you have to use a wiki to get through something

[blissful perch]

I got busy so I didn’t finish my thought - but my hope is that taming is engaging rather than complicated for its own sake. It would also be great to remove taming effectiveness for most tames in favor of making the actual activity more difficult…since the current system can make people resent fun taming methods because any error leads to lost effectiveness

[desert marlin]

That and seeing lvl 224 makes me sad

[zenith mist]

Any chance of Ark2 announcement or news at the Game Awards?

[keen snow]

0

[calm scaffold]

maybe

they have to delay and ik the studios thinking of two options

1. delay with a little info drop at the game awards to soften the blow

2. delay after the 16th as not to piss off the playerbase and have people not be playing extinction cause theyre angry at wildcard

[worldly garden]

No chance! 🤣

[woven mirage]

Never

[arctic mantle]

Lol

[open monolith]

There is no way ark 2 gets released while in middle of asa... they will milk it for every last drop

2027 launch asa

[pastel lava]

What do you guys think will happen first ARK 2 gets released in early access or GTA 7?

[whole sinew]

ARK 2

gta 7 is not coming

its coming in 2036

idk what r they waiting for

if they wait more its bad cuz gta 6 will get released and no one will care bout ark 2 except for me

[calm scaffold]

surprisingly now it seems the majority is waiting for ark 2 actually

if you check the reviews of ASA and all its DLC's most of the reviews mention they didnt want ASE with a new coat of paint, wanted something new akin to ark 2

and we all know the best way to vote is with their wallets and review bombing does effect that

which honestly surprises me cause at first it was the opposite with people hating ark 2 and wanting ASA lmao

[frigid prism]

Hello, there is not TEK on Ark 2?

[frigid prism]

You are so wrong

[jade nimbus]

Ark 2 is a completely different game. It will not have the same mechanics as Ark Evolved.

Also, ChillEBean is completely right.

[calm scaffold]

its the number 1 most helpful review on steam for ASA you can check yourself lol

and the others after it too

[frigid prism]

Most of those reviews were from years ago

[frigid prism]

So that’s isn’t answering my question

[calm scaffold]

its from november 20th

[jade nimbus]

We do not know if Ark 2 will have tek.

[calm scaffold]

thats like three weeks ago

[frigid prism]

We can give us a idea actually, trailer was showing some TEK

[jade nimbus]

Do you mean the Rex Saddle?

[frigid prism]

Just I don’t know if that’s going to be useful

[calm scaffold]

ark 2s gonna stick to primitive stuff so if there is tek its gonna be inactive and probably mostly used as just "sharp hard material" for swords or something

[frigid prism]

No, the hibernation capsule and monitor screen

So for sure there is TEK because that’s part of the ARK lore

[calm scaffold]

from the broke genesis ship yeah

[frigid prism]

I just don’t know if is it going be able to use

[frigid prism]

Yep pretty much

[jade nimbus]

I don't really care about Tek.

[frigid prism]

Also sky and some other zones of the map look so technology

[calm scaffold]

theres not gonna be guns in ark 2 because santiago doesnt even want THAT replicated and hes the only one who knows how to make them so theres 0 chance he's gonna replicate tek at any point

[jade nimbus]

I want them to make the game actually feel like progression. Ark SE just feels too easy after you tame a max level argy and a few other dinos.

[calm scaffold]

agreed

[frigid prism]

Who knows

[calm scaffold]

this is what jeremy said on the extra life stream

so its confirmed info lol

[fallow niche]

Environmental tek stuff, as far as we know. The rest has been stated to be primarily primitive

[frigid prism]

Good afternoon Merry

[frigid prism]

Yep

Maybe at some point they are going to give us a futuristic map too

But for now I think it is going to be pretty much primitive

And that’s a good thing

[jade nimbus]

I also hope that they do something with like a really diverse, big map. I prefer 1 or 2 very big maps with tons of content over 10 smaller maps.

[frigid prism]

Question is… is Ark going to keep as a cooperative game?

It seems like a single player-lineal game now

Lol

Like theforest

[calm scaffold]

ok before i answer this

ive seen people saying this EVERYWHERE

why do you think this?

[frigid prism]

Souls like combat

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 will have SP and multi-player, which is stated on the store page in the tags.

[frigid prism]

Lineal history

[fallow niche]

Souls like combat is just that... combat.

[frigid prism]

Yeah but ASA has both tags too and it’s pretty much a coop game

[jade nimbus]

I'm really looking forward to souls like combat and maybe even dynamic dino animations and actual intellegent ai for the dinos.

[jade nimbus]

That's not true.

[calm scaffold]

the official servers in question:

[jade nimbus]

ASE and ASA are both playable solo or multiplayer.

[fallow niche]

No? ASE/ASA are both sp and multi-player. Neither one are just co-op.

[frigid prism]

That’s not true? I mean official ARK series shows how they are coop games

[jade nimbus]

Korita, just so you know, multiplayer and co-op is not the same.

[calm scaffold]

I REALLY hope they do souls-like combat correctly because if done right it can make a really good experience even for people who say they dont want it