#ark-2

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true viper
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It's hard to tell what the meta will be at this very moment, but if I had to guess it's a mix between interactive combat and scent/tracking

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With stuff like this, it's something you have to experience to understand

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There's a certain feel at play

blissful perch
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It’ll be more fun PvE than ever before, but Dollie confirmed both formats will be present at launch

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More skills that require thoughtful execution is the definition of “more skilled gameplay”

mint swan
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Tamed dinos will have skills so basically it will become less hard as u can literally just sit there but with 1 dino instead of 100's with ur knockback AOE skill move

jade nimbus
mint swan
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Yes i am

jade nimbus
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Your argument with the being able to defeat a t-rex at level 1 with infinite combo is not correct at all.

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There is something called balancing

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You are telling me that Dark Souls 3 is easier than Ark because there are multiple skill moves?

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That's your logic, more skill moves = less skill.

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The dino doesn't fight for you, you are the one controlling it. You shouldn't see the dino as a seperate tame, it's part of your character when fighting.

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You should try defeating the elden beast at level 1 in Elden Ring.

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Guess what? It won't fucking work unless you are a professional or smth.

mellow wadi
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ark 2 release when???

jade nimbus
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Supposedly this year

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Not that we believe that

blissful perch
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More moves = less skill is just a bizarre concept unless he means more moves = more OP? Which makes no sense because it’s not like the wild creatures are just gonna sit there and not be changed to be more complex

frosty python
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Just play COD

blissful perch
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You mean the peak of skill based gaming??

frosty python
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It has more moves that opens up a higher skill ceiling

frosty python
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Rocket league's skill celling shatters COD's

blissful perch
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COD is a great choice of a mechanically basic game

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Which is good because cod is intended for a large, casual audience

frosty python
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"Casual"

blissful perch
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No reason to make it a mechanically intense game if it’s gonna be geared towards that demographic

blissful perch
frosty python
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Tbh the only way I see a souls like Combat style in ark 2 could work is to introduce the biggest drawbacks in history
I'm talking taking up stamina just to be in a combat position, any parry is basically game over and dino fighting needs to be diversed

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And make that style of combat completely optional

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The other option is to minecraft strafe, combo, crit, bow and spear in the case of ark

blissful perch
frosty python
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Pretty much
It works though

blissful perch
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Oh for sure. It has a ton of ways to succeed. I think the really hard thing to get right, and the most “new”, would be that level of combat complexity with mounted combat

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Since all those games are ultimately foot/human players against creatures

frosty python
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But what I want the most in ark 2 is the comeback of 2016 ark warfare
I missed pvp servers gathering up hundreds of dinos in a big open area to defeat a union of tribes
Platform dinos with human guided weapons that simulated an actual fun experience

frosty python
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Strafe attack dodge finish

blissful perch
# frosty python Strafe attack dodge finish

I’m fine with that for mounted combat. But I also feel like it would be even better to have dodging on raptors and blocking on trikes (for example) that spice up how to fight things based on your tame

frosty python
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(Attack defence endurance etc)

blissful perch
frosty python
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Yo I think we cooking here

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Usually we don't find good ideas like these

blissful perch
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This chat used to have good ideas

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But it’s been quiet because nothing new came out to discuss…so it’s just been the same lazy jokes about the game not being out for the last year

frosty python
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I mean can you blame them?

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It's been.....4 years holy

wanton pike
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Game release 2090 confirmed

frosty python
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Wait a god damn minute

blissful perch
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I mean sort of. It takes effort to ignore the 10 other messages makin the same joke

wanton pike
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This one had a extra comedic effect now.

blissful perch
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You right

frosty python
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Ark 2 was announced in 2020 right? When covid was a thing

blissful perch
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Uh correct

frosty python
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....

blissful perch
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Release date was 2022 back then

frosty python
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Can you imagine

blissful perch
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If it came out in 2022 it would be crap tho

frosty python
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The monkey pox takes over and in that same time we conveniently get another announcement trailer

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Like

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That would be some 4d hilarious shit

blissful perch
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So you’re saying we need a new pandemic to get the game to come out 👀👀

frosty python
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Dats what I'm sayinnn

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2020 DLC part two

blissful perch
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Tbh I just want ark 2 to be what WC promised in that founder’s note…and/or be monster hunter meets survival crafting game

frosty python
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We prolly gon get a movie before this honestly

blissful perch
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And for the love of GOD let ark 2 not be so scope crept it has 10,000 unfinished mechanics. Thats why my name has this hashtag on it

frosty python
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(If you didn't know its in thier plans)

jade nimbus
frosty python
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I just caught up on that lol

jade nimbus
frosty python
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But 4 years....cmon

blissful perch
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So true. I’m extremely down for delays if it means I don’t need a NASA computer to run the game and it’s actually playable

frosty python
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Let's not be delusional
We ARE gonna have to own a nasa computer for this optimised or not

blissful perch
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I’d be upset if ark 2 had preorders and I was out of money this whole time, but there’s really no issue with a delay beyond my own personal hype

blissful perch
frosty python
blissful perch
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Hmm. MHW came to pc in 2018 and wild is 2025. Assuming wild was being worked on the whole time that’s 6 years? And ark 2 has already been in the cooker for 4

frosty python
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Huh

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A glimmer of hope I see

blissful perch
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And in that time monster hunter rise came out

frosty python
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But to be fair they did have the entire setup ready

blissful perch
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Obviously wildcard isn’t capcom, but what it does mean is that there should be a bit more attention paid to optimization

frosty python
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I'm genuinely surprised why they don't hire programmers

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They're below a hundred I think

blissful perch
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Because I suspect money is tight?

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Wc is basically a single product company, and the huge income from ASE appears to have withered away

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If only they didn’t spend so much every month hosting official servers 😔

frosty python
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They literally could've partnered with gportal and boom money galore

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They could've made what landfall did, games completely unrelated to the franchise, small content but replayable games just to spread income and popularity

blissful perch
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Could’ve is a great word there.

frosty python
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It's too late for them now

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Either everything works or bankruptcy

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(Or a Microsoft purchase ya never know)

pine basin
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MS already has a lot on their plate to deal with

frosty python
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I mean

wanton pike
frosty python
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.....xbox

pine basin
frosty python
frosty python
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Yknow alot on their plate to deal with

pine basin
frosty python
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Yeah fair point

pine basin
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Anyways, there are more profitable possibilities than acquiring a failing franchise

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I can almost feel sorry for Snail Games LOL

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Ark 2 is a big headache

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ASA isn't helping

blissful perch
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Snail isn’t gonna sell off wc or anything ark tho

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Objectively never going to happen

wanton pike
pine basin
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We don't even know how Microsoft is dealing with Ark 2 postponements, which was supposed to be a Xbox Console exclusive and Game pass title day one

frosty python
wanton pike
blissful perch
frosty python
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Yeah they need the xbox exclusives

pine basin
frosty python
pine basin
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get in line

frosty python
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Bankrupt snails even more

pine basin
frosty python
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....

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You really think a company as shady as snail games is not getting in a lawsuit in the future?

pine basin
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Even MS wouldn't bother

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Just revoke the deals and move on

frosty python
pine basin
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I don't know anything about their internal affairs

frosty python
pine basin
frosty python
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It died out, then completely abandoned it

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They did this with alotta games too

pine basin
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And what SG has to do with it?

frosty python
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Because it is them who abandoned their products?

pine basin
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Conan has nothing to do with SG

frosty python
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??

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Didn't they publish it?

pine basin
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no

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You might be thinking about dark and light or last oasis

frosty python
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Wtf-

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Wait huh

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I'm completely lost

pine basin
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Conan was developed and published by Funcom

frosty python
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What the fu
Fr?
Man time hits different

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But still

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My point still stands

pine basin
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yeah

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Tencent owns funcom

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not related at all with SG

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But, anyways, abandoning a game isn't really illegal

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And most SG games are realesed as Early-access titles, which is even more flexible

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Ark 2 is/was also supposed to be realeased as an early access title

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I hope they release it, I'm probably buying it (or at least testing it on game pass), but I'm not so confident

frosty python
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And was talking abt the inevitable death of the gale we all love

fossil iris
pine basin
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TBF, Atlas died a few years ago and they didn't abandon it (not officially). Ase was shut down because ASA replaced it. It's not really about supporting the titles through time, it's about delivering things on time and without major issues.

pine basin
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I know Conan has nothing to do with SG

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Last Oasis and Dark and Light are more similar to Conan than Atlas, so I think he got confused with those titles

fossil iris
pine basin
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Anyways, I will stop the off-topic by repeating the above mentioned. I would be happy to play Ark 2, but I'm not too confident. Maybe they will bring some news in the annual Extra Life stream. Who knows.

true viper
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Ark II has to be addressed at some point before the end of the year. I still think that they can't just say "it's delayed again" without showing us what's been done with the extra time they keep giving themselves.

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There has to be something for the players/future consumers in return

pine basin
true viper
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They're obligated to, or at least I'd have to imagine they are. There's probably contracts and other legal documents surrounding delays that would require them to address it if it doesn't come out by the end of this year.

ripe flicker
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I mean they should address it, it’s still slated for this year (not happening) they probably are just gonna give an indefinite release date, say its development is on hold until ASA is in a better position

true viper
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I honestly don't know when if ever ASA will be in a better position.

ripe flicker
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ASE was not in a good position for a while, took years to get it remotely stable…it’s hard telling though

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It doesn’t seem to be getting much better, but there’s a lot left planned for this year…time will tell. I hope Ark 2 comes out when it’s ready to, they obviously still intend on it’s release considering Bobs Tall Tales takes place during Ark 2

true viper
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Yeah, that's something I've thought about a lot recently. the BTT cutscenes have to be leading up to an Ark II reveal of somekind.

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I can't think of any other reason to include the girl from Ark II besides for marketing purposes.

ripe flicker
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Right, and Santiago (Vin Diesel) is a heavily focused character in those Bob cutscenes

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Jeremy said on Twitter too that they are important to ark 2

true viper
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I just wish that more people were open to Ark II personally. I could be wrong here, but I got the impression that ASA was released as a compromise to the players who were totally against Ark II when it was first announced, and WC panicked.

ripe flicker
true viper
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This might be very unpopular to say, but I do think elements of the player base are to blame, in part for Ark II's current status. There was more negativity then there was enthusiasm, to a very selfish degree imo.

ripe flicker
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I agree, there’s always too much negativity though, it sucks

true viper
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part of me thinks that it's because the PvP crowd treats the game like a 9 to 5

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Other people just don't like change and would rather keep everyone on the same game just better looking, than be okay with something genuinely new releasing

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I never see a good reason for not wanting Ark II to exist, it's always some derivative of "it's not ASE/A"

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For as great as this IP is in concept, there are a lot of limitations in the current formula

ripe flicker
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Right…and games/franchises that do not at least attempt a change, usually aren’t going to last for many years. I think what ark 2 is doing is welcomed changes, it’s taking your typical formula and expanding the things like combat and movement

true viper
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I won't pretend to know better than professional game devs, but I have to imagine that if Ark II didn't have to exist (so far as WC making the product) they would implement those changes into the current game.

ripe flicker
# true viper I won't pretend to know better than professional game devs, but I have to imagin...

Yeah. I honestly think they just wanted to start from complete scratch and make a new game with new ideas, I feel like ark 1 was becoming a bit bloated and the team is probably a little tired of working on that same game for so long. There was a stream the other day where maybe Jat? I think? Was asked what was the teams biggest challenge, and he said “Ark 2” which is good, the team is challenging themselves with something they’re probably more passionate about

true viper
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I would have to imagine yeah. Like I was a bit skeptical about Ark II when it was announced, because my initial thought was "how do you make Minecraft 2" but as time went on, I kept thinking to myself, if WC wanted to do it, and hasn't implemented into the base game, then there has to be a reason.

  • advancements in hardware/technology
  • engine limitations
  • changes that would require severe gameplay overhauls

At that point I would have to imagine that making another game would be in the studios best interest

ripe flicker
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Plus you have the fact that the original game was made by a much smaller team, and built on an incredibly spaghetti code foundation, probably easier to start from scratch than to go back and fix all that mess

true viper
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I'm almost getting the impression that Ark is becoming a pardoy of itself. The quirky cartoony feel of the first game has it charm, but it was never the main selling point. So far as this game is concerned, that cartoony feel has become a defining trait.

ripe flicker
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Yeah maybe

blissful perch
true viper
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Yeah, all we can hope for is a better future of the game(s)

mental rapids
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please dont be mid

thin walrus
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latest announcement time we had for ark 2 was still end 2024? Or was there meanwhile a new date?

still rain
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Definitely wont release this year

median topaz
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ark2 enevr coming out

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trust me

mint swan
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You are a stranger on the internet, why should i trust you.

true viper
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Because no one on the internet has ever lied about anything ever

flat trellis
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half life 3 will prob come before ark 2^^

jade nimbus
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Elder scrolls 6 aswell

pine basin
worldly garden
devout viper
prime heart
worldly garden
prime heart
worldly garden
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I don't think anyone expects it to release this year.

prime heart
jade nimbus
patent forge
worldly garden
tepid hemlock
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I doubt Ark 2 ever releases. Such bad planning and execution on their part. The fact not a word is talked about it shows this as well. Hopefully by 2026 someone makes a better more stable survival game. It would be perfect to make an Ark/Atlas combo. That would be a legit amazing game

blissful perch
tepid hemlock
blissful perch
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i hate how awful the transit system is in ATLAS, and far prefer sea of theives

jade nimbus
blissful perch
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Now imagine sea of thieves style gameplay but with someone driving the mosa PoggerMane . This is why ark 2 needs an ocean dlc

frigid bolt
true viper
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I would hope not tbh

frigid bolt
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i mean i want to see ARK2 just as much as the next person, but i feel like with ASA not even complete, and then trying to release another game on top..... recipe for disaster and upsetting the player base of both ASA and ARK2 seems like a lot of stress when getting one game working right and then getting the 2nd game going seems like a smarter decision.

true viper
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Right and I get that, makes complete sense. From my perspective, it seems to me that the formula of ASE/A is better off retired, and in some ways doomed to fail. WC is free to keep adding content to the game, in the form of BTT and whatever the secret reveal will be. ASA should be there for the people that enjoy it, but it shouldn't be at the expense of future projects.

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ASA is a bit of a financial hail mary as well. I don't mean that as a slight against WC either.

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Of course I'm coming at this from the perspective of a player, not a dev or a publisher. There could be a litany of reasons why Ark II is on hold for the foreseeable future that may not even be close to the reasons I believe.

blissful perch
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Innovative in 2015, and I say this with all the love I have for the series as a player since then…but certain elements of the game like the rpg and combat only continue to feel worse with age

true viper
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I can’t fault WC for the current design of ASE/A in all honesty. I don’t think they really though Ark would take off and become what is has

patent forge
blissful perch
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There needs to be some foundational changes in ark 2

plucky copper
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I’m still saying 2026-2027

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For Ark 2

tepid hemlock
true viper
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I would argue that the money grab would be an admission that they need the funds. Snail is largely to blame in this regard because of their ridiculous EV venture.

static tree
coral urchin
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i really hope for a more advanced pve, with quests and more to around the map.
like you have to do a quest to unlock an engram for saddle or whatever.
more to do on the maps.
as it is now on asa/ase, its just tame some dinos, grab some artifacts, smack the boss, and then what?

feral harness
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Pvp

blissful perch
coral urchin
blissful perch
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dungeons for sure

kindred rain
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Any word on a rough eta on release?

true viper
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presumably late 2024, mostly likely to be delayed

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That seems to be the current consensus

runic turtle
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ark2 need 6090=4k 60 rtx？

true viper
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No clue just yet

jade nimbus
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I think ASA has also made the community more ready for Ark 2. Since the players that play ASA have pretty good PCs. I hope Ark 2 will be more optimized than ASA but we never know. I'm planning on building a pc with a Ryzen 7 7800x3d and a 4070 so that should be enough I hope.

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I hope we will know more about Ark 2 in november, even if its just a delay with some in game footage or a trailer/teaser.

winged beacon
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I think its a bad idea to force people to have to buy a god pc just to play ark 2 i have a 3080 and i only get 50fps on high graphics settings in asa most people aren’t gonna drop 3k on a pc for ark 2 and normal pc that use 3050-3070 aren’t gonna have a good time with ark two if they can barely run asa

mint swan
kindred rain
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Hopefully server specs don't change much. Im building a pc now to host when it drops. I lived in Ark and don't want to pay Gportal so much again

fallow niche
still pine
true viper
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Oh damn, what’s up dude

clear garden
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as a prebuilt pc builder, dont waste your time on the 40 series unless you really want to waste your money

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the 50 series releases q2 next year

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its going to be the same price for a likely 50% performance increase

polar kraken
jade nimbus
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I hope Ark 2 doesn't require too much GPU since they are pretty expensive here aswell.

pseudo gust
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Hoping ark 2 has crossplay mods too lol

grim kestrel
jade nimbus
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I have already made a build but I'm not sure about what motherboard to pick. I have a budget of like 1500-2000 euros and I'm wondering if I can fit in 32gigs of ddr5

grim kestrel
jade nimbus
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But I don't know if the price listed there is realistic since I was able to get a pc with a 7800x3d, a 4070 and 32gb DDR5 ram and it only said 1500 bucks, which is pretty cheap for such components.

grim kestrel
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Ah okay, misunderstand the first reply

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It cause it searches all retailers for the lowest price

split dove
# pseudo gust Hoping ark 2 has crossplay mods too lol

Revolutionary cross-platform modding (this is from the ark 2 steam page)

Fully stackable, user-created Mods for new creatures, items, gameplay features, and maps are now distributed across all platforms, along with support for modded unofficial servers!

pseudo gust
grim kestrel
# pseudo gust Oh so it is like asa in that way

Yes, ASA not just to help fund Ark 2, but it also key in polishing a lot of features that otherwise would only be tested in QA and by devs. Having ASA is having some of Ark 2 features live in the world to see how it reacts and help it be better polished

pine basin
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Xbox partner preview was announced for this Thursday. What if... nah 🤡

polar kraken
polar kraken
fallen ingot
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아몰라

tranquil oak
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I heard this is dropping soon

jade nimbus
worldly garden
jovial gazelle
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Any new news for ark 2? Cause the silence is deafening 😭

orchid crag
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Nah ark 2 is a fantasy

mint swan
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Yes.

true viper
orchid crag
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Cryopods

pine basin
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Also, we have the "november surprise" in the roadmap, which is a new creature dlc for 10USD, it cooks meat instantly and poops elements. /s

blissful perch
tame geode
# pine basin Also, we have the "november surprise" in the roadmap, which is a new creature dl...

Whoa whoa... that almost sounds like cynicism. You're not allowed to criticize the monetization strategies WC uses. iT's OnLy TeN bUcKs!1!1!

I want WC to make money. I bought everything I could from them. Multiple copies games for family members who will never play it, the soundtrack Yada yada. Until they pushed that pyromane... it was clearly wrong. There are better monetization strategies. Hopefully, they won't do that again in ASA or Ark II.

stray elm
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The soundtrack is free.

tame geode
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Before Coker uploaded it, it was something you could buy. Yes, you could buy it. Yes you can still buy it.

stray elm
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All the music are also .mp4 files, you can just copy and paste them if you own the game.

tame geode
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Maybe they added it on the official release of ASE, but I know I had to buy it when they first redid the soundtrack.

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If I wanted legit audio that is... plus I don't think it hurts to contribute to Cokers secondary market funds.

stray elm
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Are you positive? And can you find anything to back this up?
Because plenty of games just give away their soundtracks for free.
I have the State of Decay, This War of Mine, and Space Marines 1 OST's.

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Just to note, not trying to argue. Just really confused on the idea of Wildcard charging for the OST.
Because it always seemed free to me.

tame geode
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I mean... it's posted on Cokers bandcamp and applemusic for purchase.

stray elm
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TAS track is paid for, that I know.

tame geode
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I already had the music, but as far as trying to support wildcard products that was kind of the point. There are other monetization strategies. They didn't have to make the soundtrack free later on for example.

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But I bought it anyways. Because that 10 bucks or whatever I paid was worth it. I did it because I wanted to, not because I want be competitive in pvp.

tame geode
stray elm
tame geode
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Steam DLC library for ark. I don't think it matters. I think it was part of the Ultimate Survivor Edition bundle or something.

stray elm
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It's a separate product for me in my Libary, not a DLC.

reef plank
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For a game due to release end of 2024 and not have any updates is crazy, prepare for a delay lads😂

jade nimbus
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Everyone is ready for the delay. Nobody expects the release

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🤣

blissful perch
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Also, nobody should respect or encourage paywalls that pop up during your ark gameplay. It’s so dang stupid

clear oracle
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Let’s face it, their entire concept for Ark 2 was trash. They want to turn it into something else entirely.

glass moth
# clear oracle Let’s face it, their entire concept for Ark 2 was trash. They want to turn it in...

I think this is super false. I think their entire ASE and ASA is not what they originally set out to do. However, initially being a small team they could only do so much, and now it’s too far gone to do what their dream is, which is why they are making ark2. They now have the team to make the original dream game they set out to make in the first place, but compromised on for the sake of initial funding

errant quail
polar kraken
polar kraken
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clear oracle
polar kraken
true viper
# clear oracle Let’s face it, their entire concept for Ark 2 was trash. They want to turn it in...

It's a very needed change imo. ASE/A has been the same game for nearly 10 years now. Not much more can really be done with the current design of the game (to the best of my knowledge). There are so many blatant flaws with the current game, that if they were to be fixed, it would necessitate a complete overhaul of the game, which in turn would alienate the entirety of their audience, PvP and PvE. I say WC takes the best parts of ASE, and carry that over into future projects.

clear oracle
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I disagree with this. We all know ASE was a dumpster fire. That’s why they remastered it with ASA. There was absolutely NO fixing what had already happened as a result of them laying content on top of content while leaving us to suffer with all of the bugs that were in there as a result of their laziness. But you have to give them credit this time, because they’ve been working to improve the game while at the same time fixing the bugs in their code.

true viper
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You're half right in my opinion. What ASA under the hood is, is a Band-Aid solution of the problems, both in game, and structural regarding stability and bloat neutralizing of what ASE had. Some changes have been made for the better, same goes for new features, but ultimately it's a 1.5 edition of the game than it is a truly built from the ground up remaster. I wish it were better, especially from a modders perspective, not nearly as well published as other, but expereince and work with the kit just like any other. Very little has changed regarding how the kit works, and operations so on and so forth. All that aside, the core gameplay loop is quite taxing and demanding on the player. The core meta of the game is starting to show its age. ASA should exist for the people who like it, but it shouldn't be at the expense of future projects that could strengthen WC for the better.

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I personally have fallen out of favor with the game, so far as playing it is concerned, but I wouldn't want to see ASA shelved in favor of Ark II. It would be unfair to want something like that.

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Same standard should be applied to Ark II

clear oracle
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Agreed! Ark II may well be what keeps them going. Here’s hoping we’re not waiting another whole year for it though.

true viper
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I think it's all but confirmed tbh. WC to me seems to be between a rock and a hard place. They're motivated and driven to do what they do, but are artificially dragged down by a multitude of factors:

-Their publisher
-The quality of engine they're working with (UE5 is powerful, but a lot of code was copied and pasted from UE4)
-Financial difficulties (predominantly publisher related, offsetting accrued by Snail)
-Elements of the player base that demand they stick to ASE and nothing else (not a major factor compared to the others, but an issue I still see nonetheless)

At a certain point WC has to move on, and I want them to.

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Just make a good game

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With good servers

languid hamlet
clear oracle
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ASE is dead, and if I’m being honest I wouldn’t touch it again if they brought it back. The damage was done, and there’s nothing they can do to fix all of the issues that game had. From what I’ve seen WC has learned they can’t simply put pieces of content on top of one another and expect their players to suffer like we did with ASE.

blissful perch
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Ok, but what if I told you that Asa is basically ase from a game design standpoint

glad shell
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When does it come out?

thick kiln
clear oracle
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And glitches i don't think so. So much duping lots of tribes even got dev wiped for it even if they didn't dupe it

clear oracle
thick kiln
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It's way more optimized than asa atm. You can actually play ase. And they made asa thinking it was going to be quick and fix meshing, which it didn't

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They predicted asa was going to take a year.. at this rate it's going to be 5 years

clear oracle
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And why do you think they stopped support for ASE? The game is a dumpster fire.

clear oracle
thick kiln
clear oracle
thick kiln
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That's if it's not pushed back like it always is

clear oracle
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You know it takes time to rewrite all of this content for UE5 correct?

clear oracle
thick kiln
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No it didn't. Was first announced July then pushed to August then September

clear oracle
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I’m not talking about when it was announced. I’m talking about its release. Yea, it was supposed to release end of August. It got pushed a few days, big deal.

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Delays haven’t been too drastic where ASA is concerned.

fallow niche
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Probably bring it back to Ark2

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lament venture
jade nimbus
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yea

languid hamlet
serene onyx
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peak steppe
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They don't need to make Ark 2 they need to just focus on ASA before taking another step or it's going to be like ASE all over again

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There going to run out of money and then have to shut all the servers down again and if that happens they can forget about trying to come back people will stop period at that point who wants to go threw loosing everything again

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What they need to do is work on how to be on time and release content at its scheduled time of release which means they need to go back and check the coding for errors make sure it's runs smooth that's why they need to actually sit down and play there own game so they can see what needs to be fixed or patched that's the reason they have such high ticket volume

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If I was the owner of Wild Card I wouldn't focus on nothing else because the game has so much potential and it could actually be one of the best games of all time I would throw Ark 2 in the trash for the time being

true viper
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They’ve been trying to fix this game for the better part of 10 years. At a certain point you just have to pull the plug

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true viper
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Based Strider opinion detected

thick kiln
true viper
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The formula of ASE/A has largely run its course, it would be ridiculous to think that WC would want to keep supporting just 1 game

blissful perch
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whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

peak steppe
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Take Call Of Duty for example same type of game but different weapons skins characters and lvls people still buy it for the same experience running around shooting Ark 2 won't be nothing like what Ark Survival Evolved was which is a giant sand box game where you tame and build last time I seen there isn't no taming or building included in Ark 2 just a story base game playing like Horizon Assassin's creed and Dark Souls all put together

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just say you didn't even read the store page, it's still gonna be an open world sandbox game like Ark 1. the combat will be souls-like and the story will likely be as forced as Gen 2 (not much)

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Souls-like melee combat

Target-lock, blocks, dodges, combos, staggers, special attacks, emphasizing player-skill-based action.
Advanced template building & sharing
Instanced rendering and network-streaming enable much higher client and server performance for large, player-built structures, and a longer draw distance! Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team.
from the founders note
ARK 2 draws heavily from Souls-like action for its human-scale combat: an emphasis on dodges, blocks, light and heavy attacks, combos, and player-reflex skill – a rarity for the PvP survival genre. For creature-scale combat, suffice it to say for now that when you attack something with your T-Rex in ARK 2, the results are visceral: the animation of the attack actually hard-impacts on the target (not “passing through” it), the victim’s flesh is torn, and the target physically reacts at that location to the hit – all to convey the feeling of the raw power of such a ferocious creature!

peak steppe
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Well see and by the time it comes out it will be on a next Gen consol that's the only reason me and my brother in law got the Xbox series S was for ARK 2

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Right when we got our xboxes Ark 2 was supposed to release in August

split dove
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the only vague release date Ark 2 had for 2024 was at the end of the year

peak steppe
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I'm still going to get it the game it's Ark

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So special attacks would that be like countering

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Just hope it's not going to be one of them type of games where you follow the marker and can't go of course because the borders block you from going off the path all you can do is go in a straight line

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I like open world and moving freely

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It's supposed have more primitive crafting and whatever materials you get depends on the power of your bow

queen dragon
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Ark 2 is going to be a knock off if conan exiles . Watch

true viper
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Of all the things you could have possibly said

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ancient stag
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As quickly as U5 versions come out and Wildcard ASA has to be patched with it, 5.3-5.5 I don't think Ark 2 will come before Unreal 6.0, which is really bitter because there are still websites that think it's coming this year.
Then there are plenty of games that compete with Ark in a certain way, like Tower of Aghasba, for example.
If things work better and more stable with UE5 than Ark...well, it will be difficult!

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…unreal 6? That’s a new hot take

clear verge
clear verge
languid hamlet
wanton pike
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Third world war before Ark 2

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thick ingot
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is Ark 2 going to happen, like is therte any leaks

true viper
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There was a model leak earlier this year by a contractor

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Rex with its various saddle types

glossy zodiac
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Nah it's going to be an ark skinned last oasis

worldly garden
blissful perch
polar kraken
clever pond
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"aRk 2 iS cOmiNG tHiS yEaR"
Man, screw that

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i wonder how the creatures from ark's like aberration,scorched earth to us would react when we will meet them on earth

fallow niche
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Misread, but no guarantee that we will have the story dlc creatures on Ark 2

weary hull
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i would be nice if in ark when you damaged sens of animal they lose it and they tried to rely on there remaining sens like irl if the exemple you managed to throw a spear on eye from a carno and he become blind with this one so he get a lower field of vision and to fill this defect he need to more rely on his hearing and smell to find the survivor this would be a nice features to add to this souls like combat style mixed with ark

fallow niche
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It's just souls like combat. Not game.

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what im saying is that if exemple you know you beat the regular ark you get the extinction ending all the arks that were in the sky fall into the ground and you're playing now the default (no dlc ) ark 2 you revisit the old ark's and you see a reaper that made his way out and you have to beat him

fallow niche
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Ark 2 is an entirely separate game + continuation, I doubt they'll do anything like that

blissful perch
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As for the senses, I think it would be pretty cool if the combat worked like monster hunter - since “hitzones” were somewhat confirmed in the founder’s note. Monster hunter splits hitzones into “parts” and if you break the parts the creature becomes slower/loses abilities/etc. it would really add a lot of it showed up in ark 2

split dove
# blissful perch As for the senses, I think it would be pretty cool if the combat worked like mon...

here ya go boss

For creature-scale combat, suffice it to say for now that when you attack something with your T-Rex in ARK 2, the results are visceral: the animation of the attack actually hard-impacts on the target (not “passing through” it), the victim’s flesh is torn, and the target physically reacts at that location to the hit – all to convey the feeling of the raw power of such a ferocious creature!
Sensory-based creature Ai
No omnipresent radar -- animals now track and hunt by sight, sound, and smell! Hide from predators with visual camouflage and environmental obstructions, and learn to mask your scent! Dynamic pathfinding enables creatures to intelligently maneuver around obstacles and player-built structures.

polar kraken
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even monster hunter wilds which is coming next year in feb still has the same fighting mechs, and the weapon still go thru the monsters

blissful perch
polar kraken
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Hitsounds + a very brief slowing of a blade when it hits something

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Easiest example in monster hunter world is shield bashes

soft bane
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is ark 2 gonna come out in 2025?

worldly garden
soft bane
clear verge
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its actually not a bad game, it has great physics and movement

fallow niche
blissful perch
clear verge
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I'm still waiting for real game play, until them all I can do is wait

clear verge
blissful perch
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it's written on the store page and on the pins in multiple places that ark 2 is a survival game just like ark 1

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are you not sure what rose colored glasses means?

clear verge
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Im not native english

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I have no idea what it means but I'm guessing isn't good

blissful perch
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it's not really good or bad

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it's an english idiom "An optimistic perception of something; a positive opinion; seeing something in a positive way, often thinking of it as better than it actually is"

clear verge
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I don't believe in any way ark 2 will be in any way a game like ase or asa, I also have doubts that it will even be released but thats just my opinion

blissful perch
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couldn't get in doesn't really sound very open

clear verge
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So you are playing and there are nothing on youtube

fallow niche
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Ark 2 does not have any testing.

clear verge
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Cap

polar kraken
blissful perch
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my man pushing malware is my guess given there's no active beta

polar kraken
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and many other things like there wont be a map or anything based on the info they gave us on the steam page

clear verge
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But I really wish the best if it's wildcard working on ark 2. If it's what I expect I will buy it like I did with all ark survival games and dlcs they released

fallow niche
polar kraken
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there is a good chance it will release but its gonna be delayed many times

clear verge
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End of 2024, thats amazing we are so close

blissful perch
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0% chance 2024

polar kraken
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the earliest release of it is atleast 2026

clear verge
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I have read the pinned messages, it's saying there

clear verge
polar kraken
fallow niche
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When is ark 2 coming

true viper
serene onyx
polar kraken
pulsar jay
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Don't buy ark 2 you'll be an even bigger fool to still get your hopes up to a developer souly out to tattoo mug to your foreheads there just watching you waste your life for there gain it will be probably another 2 years till release or more Mods and skins you have to buy coz they add to the game and you can see and get hurt by things you have to pay extra for along with they won't bring it out untill they have had enough money from asa

polar kraken
grim kestrel
# pulsar jay Don't buy ark 2 you'll be an even bigger fool to still get your hopes up to a de...

Some people don't have to worry about buying it when it does reach early access as it will be on gamepass immediately. If you don't care about it, you don't have to worry about it.

Go focus on something you want to play then instead of just coming here to try and tell people not to do something, some of us actually enjoy the direction Ark headed.

ASA has been a solid upgrade and it provides a decent insight to Ark 2 expectations.

polar kraken
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worldly garden
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Not sure why people care what other people spend their money on. I'll be buying day 1.

blissful perch
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An objective scam would be bad, but idk why you’d go nuts on people otherwise

cunning ocean
tame geode
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That'll teach us!

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tame geode
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I can't be bothered with any sort of plans that have been announced for Ark 2 as it's now been proven multiple times that the founders plans mean very little in the grand scheme of things. It's also to easy to genericize certain styles that are being used to describe the game, and we have gotten so little information on the game to actually have an informed decision.

I have things I'd like to not see, but my opinion means literally nothing.

grim kestrel
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I think it'd be more accurate to change wildcard to snail games.

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Wildcard used to care... hard to tell these days...

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Meh...

grim kestrel
# tame geode I can't be bothered with any sort of plans that have been announced for Ark 2 as...

I mean I feel like ASA was a good reset in showing intent to expand positively. Only pain is waiting on maps to come out, for me specifically Rag but base building is already more than 10x better than it was in ASE and if anything remotely similar in upgrade to that goes for Ark 2 it should be solid.

Maps have at least twice as much aesthetic appeal to them than they did in ASE. I never really went to SE on ASE cause it was like a giant playground sandbox of dirt. ASA SE actually looks good.

polar kraken
meager ruin
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god damn why yall shrieking so muchDodoPanic

cunning ocean
tame geode
# grim kestrel I mean I feel like ASA was a good reset in showing intent to expand positively. ...

I don't think ASA did enough in some of the critical areas it needed to in order to demonstrate a good faith to the players. There's been some cool additions with bobs tales and some of the aesthetics are nice, but that's all superficial. There's nothing really demonstrating that Ark 2 is going to be this revolutionary game or anything based off the execution of ASA. So, I think it's hard to use ASA as any sort of metric for ark 2 other than rushing out cool concepts with varying successes of execution.

grim kestrel
tame geode
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And that's coming from a Wildcard fanboy... or at least former fanboy.

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Yeah I have only spent here and there on a fiber craft cluster for now, waiting until Rag is released to really dive in as that my preferred map. Interested to see how much better it going to look.

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Actually a vanilla fiber cluster too. I have had better experience without mods to this point so far on ASA personally.

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I like to think that 'revolutionizing' the game is relative to what we've already grown accustom to.

Plenty of other games have hit reactions, component based crafting and multi-layered combat. It won't be revolutionary so far as games as a whole are concerned, but for Ark as an IP, it will be.

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Yes there are games that have aspects of what Ark does, but not all in one. Ark kind of a standalone in that regard as it has put story campaign, open world, base building, first/third person survival MMORPG all in one game.

Conan is the closest I can think of, but I still think even it falls short of some of those elements. In a way it is possible for them to revolutionize Ark 2 if they execute it right.

dull sedge
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Wait is it out already?!

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Honestly if WC was to just let development cook in the shadows and just keep it quiet until it ready to release out in even early access just as Rockstar Games has always done with their titles we don't hear from them until it ready to promote the release time, then Ark series could very well become as infamous as GTA or RDR series, but the discipline of just letting it bake behind close doors and let your current game just sustain you and keep regular updates going for it.

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If anything they proved they can support one title for a good long time considering June 2015 ASE released to October 2023 ASA release, 8 years is a solid life span for a game prior to a remaster to continue expanding and evolving it.

true viper
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They've been doing that for quite sometime now, and with the projected release date still officially sometime before the end of this year, somethings got to give.

grim kestrel
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I'd expect and would prefer them to announce it to come later than drop it now in EA.

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If it not ready

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I'd be okay with getting 12 new maps exclusive to ASA to buy if it means Ark 2 gets the dev time it needs

true viper
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Right, and if we do get hit with another delay, I would like to see what's been done with the time they've given themselves.

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It only seems fair, so far as the consumer side of things is concerned.

grim kestrel
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Yeah I do believe they need to show something this time for Ark 2 because they have been public about progress to this point with concepts, dates, delays, etc. But if/when they do work on future products it should be in silence until ready.

true viper
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Idk about that last bit. Because WC already has a bit of a marketing issue, and if they just withhold information about new content/releases until it's ready, they would otherwise be squandering their chances of getting new players all together.

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I have to imagine that part of the goal with Ark II is to attract wholly new players to the franchise, and not signal exclusively to their existing player base.

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That part of the market is already secured to a degree.

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With ASA, it makes more sense because it's really a game for the existing fans so far as I can tell. It's a bit different with Ark II I believe.

grim kestrel
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WC has a gamepass connection which means they have contact with Microsoft Xbox which is a sizeable entity to help promote their game.

I mean from GTA 1 to GTA V that series has always cooked without minimal public information until it approaches release and Rockstar is Take Two gold generator with GTA VI having a 3 Billion dollar budget.

Having a company like Microsoft Xbox and even Steam to help promote a game like WC has is about as good as RG having Take Two.

true viper
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Right, but GTA is a bit of a false comparison here. I understand what you're trying to get at, but Ark is a bit different. Overall it appeals to a very niche groups of gamers, and not nearly as 'universal' compared to an established franchise with multiple unique entries like GTA. Having gamepass will help to some degree, but not to the same extent it will for GTA VI.

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WC has been so focused on the ASE/A brand for so long that it hasn't made an attempt to move away from that besides Ark II, and it hasn't been as smooth of a transition as we all would have preferred.

true viper
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What I'm really getting at is that Ark doesn't have nearly the amount of broadcasting power to rely on just the name alone for marketing and attracting new players

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true viper
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oh yeah without question, but survival games themselves, despite being a big genre, is small compared to other games

obtuse elbow
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Gm friends

jade nimbus
orchid crag
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Ark 2 is a myth

grim kestrel
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For PlayStation yes

sturdy minnow
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Ark 2™️

upbeat patrol
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Where is my dear Ark 2

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Now I’m a pc player AND ps player

true viper
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Still to be determined, at most I think we can expect to hear something durning extra life

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I'm still hoping that we see it come 2025

upbeat patrol
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I wanna have at least SOME INFO in 2025

true viper
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That would be nice as well. I really hope we hear/see something new regarding Ark II before the end of the year.

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I want to see what's been done during the delay

upbeat patrol
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Imma be so happy when Ark 2 is out

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First imma do is tame 5 raptors and get an allosaurus pack

upbeat patrol
true viper
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Right, but it's not wholly reliable

upbeat patrol
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True but it’s something

polar kraken
grim kestrel
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That speculation, we don't have any further official information since they stated end of 2024

upbeat patrol
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I want my damn Ark NOW😡

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Imma be setting up a tribe for Ark 2, in evolved I was Alpha Solo Tribe, in Ark 2 I’ll share the legacy I’ll create with a whole tribe, since my wife wanna play with me as well, so why not allow others as well since she is allowed as well yk

crisp relic
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Don't worry guys they said by the end of 2024. We can all agree they always keep their word 😂

upbeat patrol
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😂

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Wait it would be full crossplay right?

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So like all servers the same and all console, pc, mobile players would be on the same type of server by default

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That would be so nice icl

fallow niche
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They've never mentioned mobile afaik, but crossplay yes, along with crossplatform mods, at least for Microsoft/steam. PS hasn't been announced when it will be added

polar kraken
polar kraken
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potent badge
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I’m really looking forward to Ark 2 I can’t wait to see what they have created lol I miss my T-Rex 🦖

upbeat patrol
upbeat patrol
grim kestrel
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My reply to them was simply to point out it personal expectation not official information consider I replied to someone who responded to someone else asking about release and they didn't specify it their opinion about when. Which I believe is important to be stated.

My personal expectation is it 2026 at the earliest, but if someone wants official info, I'll tell them last known is end of 2024 for Ark 2.

polar kraken
grim kestrel
polar kraken
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and my info is 100% trust

dim sable
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I thought Ark 2 was put on hold until further notice?

true viper
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We'll likely learn more during extra life

grim kestrel
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True

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ASA maps have been pushed back, we should of had Rag a few months back. So it reasonable to expect to hear a later date for Ark 2

true viper
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I have to imagine that the issues with the non-story maps come down to the contractors WC is using.

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Center should have been much better than it ended up being

grim kestrel
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That a good point.

worldly garden
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I'm not sure we'll hear anything about Ark 2 at Extra Life, but considering the last date was late 2024 there should be some form of update, even if it is that there is no ETA on it anymore. But i'm not expecting to be told anything before next year.

true viper
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I have to imagine we would, release is still projected to be within the next two months, and if it's delayed, addressing it during ExtraLife on their own terms would be the best way to handle it

serene onyx
worldly garden
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Still better than no info. 🤷🏻

upbeat patrol
wheat gale
frigid edge
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XD It’s gonna be a fail like Ark survival “ascended”

untold ingot
serene onyx
upbeat patrol
vague comet
serene onyx
winged wadi
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name 3 reasons why it isnt better

serene onyx
digital pendant
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Im starting to think ark acended is ark 2

serene onyx
restive storm
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Yall use pvp movement as a excuse

serene onyx
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yeah, asa is leagues better then plain ol ase

stray elm
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I might be one of the few people on the planet that actually misses the wiring/piping system in ASE.

serene onyx
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idk how to exlain it better lol

stray elm
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I don't know.
Wireless stuff to me always should've stayed within the endgame parts of the game via Tek.
Might've been interesting to have a tek water-tank that acted as the current ASA ones do.

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to me it just was annoying having to set wires up all the time so i was very happy to have things wireless

winged wadi
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stray elm
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I don't know. Artistically there's quite a bit of locations in ASA that just look bad compared to ASE, personally.
Graphically, yeah, it's better in every way.
But some places just look bad in an art direction viewpoint.

grim kestrel
# restive storm Asa has mods for all console and runs better & has moded stuff to make pvp bette...

Right, ASA is better in every way from all the maps just being a lot more detailed. Also it has a simulation style graphics rather than an anime style graphics which is ALL around just better.

And mods are a good feature being cross platform, but I found a moderately boosted cluster that vanilla (no mods) on ASA and I'll be the first to say ASE doesn't even compare in vanilla cluster.

The only pain for me in ASA is waiting on maps, which is why whenever Ark 2 gets ready to see the light of day I have good expectations.

fallow niche
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I hope we get some more news soon. They have to let us know something in 2024 since the release date is planned this year.

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It defenitely won't release this year, but I do want some more news about the development and a delay.

true viper
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I'm very eager to learn more about the scent tracking systems. What I hope for is that when the player is below 20 percent health, they're put into a limping movement mode (depending on the severity of the wound) and the blood attracts scavengers.

jade nimbus
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Almost everything is possible nowadays so they should really make the game feel like a struggle to survive with mechanics that make the game harder but not too hard that it becomes to big of a grind. Also the new base building looks great.

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Also dinos should have procedural animations and actually interact with the player.

worldly garden
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What they really need to do with Ark 2 is overcome the fact that in Ark 1 survival is only early game and becomes almost non-existent after a while.

blissful perch
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All the promises of ark 2 excite me because the difficulty may actually come from mechanical or tactical decision making rather than “who grinded the better gear and breed lines”

jade nimbus
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Taming a max level allo was also easy as it spawned at vikings bay and it demolishes everything.

thick moat
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I just wanna say I have hope for ark 2, it's just what will make the ark franchise push forward, ASA i feel it can't really do that anymore, it is still good old ASE, which is cool to have, but we need ark 2, seriously

blissful perch
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Imo Asa was never meant to do that

thick moat
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yeah it's just a way to stay relevant and get money while ark 2 is being developed or whatever it's happening with it, though they gotta gear it for most of the actual playerbase (and new) if they want most people to actually transfer to it, I hope they make it more desirable for the actual playerbase basically

blissful perch
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Make Asa more desirable?

thick moat
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ark 2

blissful perch
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Because imo ark 2 is never going to appeal as much as Asa does to the current dedicated base

thick moat
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yeah that's what im sayin, they should pull back on some things like the third person only, and to never mention souls like combat again

blissful perch
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But there’s no point in doing that

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Why compete with your own game when you can broaden ark’s appeal and bring back people who left ark entirely?

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Let the Asa folks stay on Asa rather than try to pull them to ark 2…which they likely won’t like as much as Asa anyway

thick moat
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hmm yeah I might understimate how many new playerss can ark 2 pull lol

true viper
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Opinions on Ark II are pretty clear. There's a good chunk of the current player base that would rather not see the game be made at all, which is ridiculous imo. There's no converting these people unless there's enough shown between now and release to win them over.

thick moat
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That's why I was saying to kinda change some things to have the chance to win them over, but what Shifter said makes sense, I still hope they do pull back on third person only though

true viper
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That shouldn't stop WC from continuing to work on the game. There's only so much more life that can be breathed into the ASE formula in ASA

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I personally wouldn't mind a third person only Ark game if the camera was made decently enough. I think there's a lot that 3rd person gameplay offers that 1st person can't do.

thick moat
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still im pretty sure there's a way to implement 1st person even with the combat and new traversal

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I just would like the option to do so

true viper
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Right, options are always good

grim kestrel
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grim kestrel
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Pretty sure decision was made for that so story experience and intended play style is going to prefer 3rd. They went with mod ability 1st just so the option there for anyone who just absolutely can't/won't want to play 1st person.

I play ASA and played ASE predominately 3rd anyways.

thick moat
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1st is so much superior than 3rd honestly

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all that happens in-game is just much more memorable

grim kestrel
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Eh I'd disagree, but it a subjective stance from person to person. I believe 3rd person plays so much better in ASA

thick moat
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nuh uh

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nah but seriously, I really think they can implement 1st person whenevr u are not using the traversal

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and combat it's perfectly possible to do it on first just look at Atlas

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and making it so it's just a mod option is lame... not gonna be able to use it at all in any server other than SP

grim kestrel
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I mean nothing set in stone, until it see an actual early access release it could always have decision to be made to have both by default

thick moat
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yup that's what im thinking, with the backlash changess are definetly gonna happen

blissful perch
# thick moat 1st is so much superior than 3rd honestly

Idk about that. I’ll miss my first person foot play, but the bulk of your time in ark is mounted (third person) anyway…and for combat with dodges and parries it’s often good to see your own attack animations in third person

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It’s a fairly small portion of the real gameplay that’s “lost”…imagine the flipside of first person only mounted gameplay and the nightmare that would be DodoPanic

thick moat
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it is subjective though, but having options is nice

blissful perch
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photo mode in third person would be nice

grim kestrel
# thick moat it is subjective though, but having options is nice

That understandable and having options is ideal. As someone who played every GTA game to date and played GTA RP I've found it become easy to immerse myself even in 3rd person. So I never really gave it a second thought when they announced Ark 2 for third person only, but stated a mod could be made to enable 1st again.

upbeat patrol
serene onyx
analog hamletBOT
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@uneven sail

ARK: Survival Evolved Mobile:

The ARK Mobile official Discord can be found here:

Ark mobile discord

ARK Mobile players will always be welcome in this discord too!

true viper
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Something I'm curious about is whether or not we'll have friendly Human NPCs in some capacity

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With a more story focused Ark game, and what we've seen in the cinematic trailers, I have to assume to the answer is yes. It would be a shame if we could only have a limited number of NPCs in our 'party'

teal kiln
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I keep hearing about ark 2 but I havent seen anything on it yet officially. Is it console, steam or what platform? When is the promos going to start coming ?

fallow niche
teal kiln
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Nice I usually am behind on games glad I havent missed this one

fossil iris
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2030 Q1🖕

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maybe 2040 💩

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whère is vin diesel

languid hamlet
craggy wharf
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Lol. Probably an autocorrect moment. Vin getting updated to Vince makes sense since you hit space after the N.

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That N got changed to a B coincidentally. Lol.

mystic stump
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Tf is ark two

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I just checked my discord to see all this shit

marsh palm
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Oh hey, only just found this channel. Any news on this game?

south relic
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Bro ngl I only have doubts for this game

languid hamlet
modern marlin
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ong they would be so cool if they gave me a free version of ark 2 once its released

brisk prawn
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Can't get a simpler game functioning properly, I have zero hope for ark 2. Especially with snail at the wheel who has driven every single game they touched to its grave.

toxic sparrow
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Is ark 2 still coming out this year or?

worldly garden
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nah

toxic sparrow
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Oh ok is it still gonna be made tho ?

jade nimbus
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Wildcard desperately needs more money or they will go bankrupt

worldly garden
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lmao all these comments about bankruptcy. 🤣 If Ark 2 isn't made or ASA fails they're going bankrupt. 🤣 People talking like they actually know what's going on.

jade nimbus
worldly garden
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you said they desperately need more money or they'll go bankrupt.

jade nimbus
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I just meant that ASA was made as a money project for Ark 2 and I don't think it will keep making enough revenue for Wildcard if Ark 2 doesn't come at some point because the old fomula is kinda dying.

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I'm sorry for my stupid remark.

worldly garden
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no need to apologise lol, doesn't offend me. I'm pretty confident Ark 2 is still a thing. It will come eventually.

jade nimbus
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Yeah I think so aswell.

worldly garden
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tbh i still look forward to it, simply because it will be a "new" game, everything about it will be new. Unlike what we have right now.

brisk prawn
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While I have absolutely no faith in Ark 2 being even remotely decent, I do hope it can get made and prove me wrong. I'm curious how ASA will go though since snail has stated they are dropping ASA licensing once ark 2 launches

brisk prawn
blissful perch
brisk prawn
# blissful perch Really? You’re sure snail released information directly contradicting public sta...

I don't remember who it was but there is a guy on YouTube that went over it and pulled up official statements by Snail. So unless Snail changed their mind or they heavily edited it. The guy has been pretty accurate and thorough in the past so I have no reason to doubt what he pulled up but also won't say it isn't possibly faked. Odd thing to fake though. I'll see if I can find it once I get back to my pc

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It was saying with the launch of Ark 2, Snail doesn't plan to renew their licensing contract or whatever it is that has them running it.

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Or it could just be like ASE where with the launch of Ark 2 they end official servers on ASA..

blissful perch
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I remember hearing about the expiration of nitrado being the exclusive server host for Asa…do you think that’s what this is?

brisk prawn
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Nope. That was also a part of the video but separate thing.

blissful perch
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Who’s the YouTuber?

tame geode
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They're probably referencing Nooblets rants...

brisk prawn
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I don't think I've ever watched one of his videos.

worldly garden
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I think it might have been LtBuzzLitebeer. I do remember seeing something about licencing contract ending for ASA. But no idea what the actual wording was now as it was months ago.

tame geode
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It could've been HOD. Who knows with how many armchair lawyers perked up after the first vid dropped.

brisk prawn
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Buzzlitebeer, that's the one.

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I ignore most but he actually goes in depth and shows all the info he is working with.

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And says it is speculation, not fact

tame geode
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Many of them do.

brisk prawn
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Yea, but most feel shady or pick and pull.

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He goes over the whole thing.

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The only reason I mention what was said about ASA is he pulls something up from snail that directly says they are ending licensing

tame geode
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I don't know about most. A lot of Ark content creators aren't trying to be malicious, they just don't know what they're doing, and are trying to get views.

brisk prawn
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Very true.

tame geode
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Yes, so did many other creators lol. It was kind of a craze.

brisk prawn
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It is a loved game, despite all it's flaws. So makes sense people would be concerned. But snail openly stating they are going to end licensing is huge as well.

tame geode
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Well, if it means anything written words or even legally binding documents mean very little these days. Can always edit things, or just ignore issues that pop up and hope you don't get caught.

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Can always edit assuming you follow proper procedure and timeframes.*

brisk prawn
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Yea but this is snail. I don't have very high hopes lol.

tame geode
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Don't worry, Wildcard hasn't been much better recently, and I used to be a WC fanboy.

true viper
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Honestly, if Ark II were probably committed to and not delayed, seemingly in favor of ASA at this point, things would probably be different.

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We do have extra life to look forward to, so we'll probably get a lot of news regarding what's coming in the future.

brisk prawn
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If they would stop to focus on fixing the massively game breaking issues, the unbelievable ping, the rampant hacking, I would happily wait for more content

true viper
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Problem with that is the engine. Not much has really been changed in the grand scheme of things.

brisk prawn
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We had a naked lvl 1 teleporting around ab the other day snagging all the red/yellow drops. Immune to rads and everything

true viper
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There's always going to be at least some of that with any game.

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Devs patch the issues, hackers create new ones

brisk prawn
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Yea, but to have them not get banned is a big deal. We've had a couple along with griefers we have been dealing with almost since launch

tame geode
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To not have any attempt to prevent cheaters is inexcusable. It's even worse than ASE, and ASE was horrid for cheating there at the end. They literally did nothing to combat it, but said stuff like, "Oh well, you'll have to see what we did to combat cheating... we can't tell you because it'll give the cheaters an advantage." When it was literally nothing.

brisk prawn
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All we need is one other game, done well, similar to Ark and I think this game will die. Simply because there is NO enforcement. I had to screenshot the CoC after having a ticket closed and told it wasn't an issue just to get them to actually enforce their own rules.

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And all the RMT bots. Gotta love those

pale turret
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Hopefully FOR THE STARS is better then Ark 😅🤷🏻‍♂️

stray elm
pale turret
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They’d have all the old ase players plus more

stray elm
pale turret
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True 😂💯

stray elm
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Last time Snail Games themselves made a game, was Dark and Light.

pale turret
stray elm
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They've been doing this for around eight-ish years.

pale turret
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Damnnnn

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Horrible lol

lament crow
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Lmao ark 2? Fix asa first and maybe don’t upset your fan base. If Christmas is gonna have evreything event related inside club ark you can kiss ark 2 goodbye or any fan base you still have

tame geode
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At that point I'd think they were intentionally trying to see what they can get away with given last years Christmas event.

brisk prawn
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I actually kinda liked the last one, the crashes just ruined it because it kept ruining notes i completed for dino's

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But yea, if they keep making events in club ark only, they will lose everyone

brisk prawn
fallow niche
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Bring it back to ark 2 🫠

tame geode
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I think we were talking about the quality of ASA events and how they reflect the potential quality of Ark 2. As Saultrain was just saying, if they keep up these poorly executed events, then peeps may not want to play Ark 2. I feel like that's on topic.

fallow niche
tame geode
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Anyway, they may be pushing this ClubARK stuff in an attempt to practice cross gamemode play. I know before Jeremy had posted something along the lines of "wanting to do something that's never been done in the history of videogames." It may be possible, they want to have cross game play between ASA and Ark 2. It would explain why the proposed game style is vastly different and potentially more story driven. So, I'm not entirely convinced that snail will just dump ASA after Ark 2 launches.

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Although it's been proven multiple times recently that the owners tweets mean almost nothing. Which is very unfortunate.

true viper
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Ark 2 represents a legitimate opportunity to correct the errors of ASE/A

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In my view it’s better to sunset the current formula as sooner rather than later. WC can’t just keep working on the same product for 10+ years with no new titles at any point.

tame geode
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ASA was already supposed to be that opportunity. That's why peeps should be concerned about the quality of ark 2 given the current development trajectory of ASA.

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ASA being an opportunity to correct the errors of ASE that is.

true viper
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I think the want on WCs part was there, but business got in the way of innovation to a degree, having debts offset onto them and what not. Whatever that opportunity may have produced is just gone right now. We’re stuck with what we have until Ark 2 rolls around.

At the very least, the overall player base needs something wholly new.

true viper
tame geode
true viper
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We’ll hear something about it by the end of the year. When we do, I do hope we get a new look at the game, assets, the map(s) etc.

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I would hope that Extralife would be the way to get that info, but we’ll see.

blissful perch
blissful perch
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My hope was that ark 2 would junk officials and replace them with sophisticated tools that players could use to maintain and admin their own large networks

blissful perch
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Not to say visuals are meaningless, but they aren’t as illuminating imo as an understanding of what questions are being asked what choices are being considered for how gameplay will work

gaunt mango
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We still think Ark 2 is a thing? Pretty sure it’s dead ☠️

blissful perch
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Unless WC says they’re out of business, ark 2 is the only logical extension of the series…so yes it’s reasonable to assume it’s a thing

brisk prawn
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I think Ark 2 is going to be a cobbled together hail Mary to try to save themselves. It will probably release but I don't think it will be functional. I could be wrong though. And I would love to be proved wrong, I just don't think WC can make Ark 2 the way they are saying they want to.

blissful perch
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Hard to say. It may be super scope limited or it’ll be cobbled together

brisk prawn
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Go the way of No Man's Sky, a whole lot of nothing but landscape lmao. In all honesty Ark 2 has an interesting idea to it. But... they've "fixed" the invisible dragon 5 times and we still have to face that bug today XD it's why I'm doubtful they can make Ark 2 run because of how complicated the system they want to make is.

blissful perch
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Well idk how much stock to put into that, since Asa reused ase code (despite a fresh code base being the point of Asa) - so I’m not sure if those bugs are technical debt or dubious coding from the current staff

foggy holly
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Club ark is ark 2

blissful perch
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🤨

true viper
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The back end code wc is using is gasping for as much air as it can get

brisk prawn
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Kinda fed in to my point. They haven't shown any attempt at quality and openly abandoned moderating their game. I was a major supporter of WC despite all the issues because it looked like they were pushing to do better but now it seems they are sliding backwards. Like I said, I hope they prove me wrong, I would love to see them put out Ark 2 and it be a massive success. But I have a lot of doubt. Prime example, I put in a ticket and got an automated response that they shut down their support teams and nothing would be done.

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It's a waiting game at this point to see what they do. And if the player base will stick around for Ark 2 to be given a chance.

untold ingot
brisk prawn
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I thought I read somewhere about a lot of the code being new. And i know a lot is still being rewritten

untold ingot
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The entire server framework is new, and a significant portion of important mechanisms are freshly coded, for example camera and movement mechanics. Asa is significantly different than ase in codebase, if it is mostly similar in gameplay

untold ingot
#

A similar thing happened with Genesis 2 release. It didn't live up to expectations. And even though it was objectively groundbreaking most people saw it as a step backwards.

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The important thing to keep in mind is that ark2 won't live up to expectations, because quite frankly the expectations for it are not really achieveable based on prior releases. It doesn't mean it'll be bad, but it's almost guaranteed to have push back from people feeling let down because they couldn't temper their expectations

brisk prawn
# untold ingot In regards to this, the quality of the visuals/gameplay is much higher than in a...

I can understand the assumption, but I never had a high expectation for asa, I expected to run similar to ASE and really the only improvement I've seen is graphics and server stability on crashing. Overall though, the meshing is worse than ever, I've seen more plants/rocks floating than ever before. Ab has a massive hole going out of the map in a spot. Heck, on center just looking out over the ocean crashed me every single time so I spent most of my time on the map staring at the ground. I'm judging asa really on a bare minimum expectation and yea, I have low expectations of Ark 2 because I don't think it will live up to the hype so I want to judge fairly.

untold ingot
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Add to that the fact that ark is essentially a closed playerbase (deminstrated by ase to ase and Asa statistics). If ark2 isn't different enough from ark1, it won't bring a newer playerbase and will inevitably "flop" the same way Asa did.

untold ingot
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So yeah, mesh holes exist. And it sucks for official gameplay, but it doesn't make the actual design and engineering worse

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Just means they didn't fix a problem that nobody can fix 🤣

true viper
untold ingot
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Hmm, there are a loooot of differences in the dev kit though.

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I don't think Asa was rushed too much, especially considering thst it practically got a year delay

true viper
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Right, control rigs, lumen, nanite, tail controllers etc. Those are all very nice, but its still very evident that there's something missing from the game. Now whether it's gameplay/meta related, or an aspect of the underlying framework of the game is entierly up for debate. I hazard to guess it's a mix of both, more so leaning towards the gameplay side of things, though there might be some nuances about the dev kit that other people I know like Lanthanum could elaborate on with better detail.

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ASA should exist for the people that like it, but not at the expense of future projects. Both things can exist at the same time, in terms of possibility anyway.

untold ingot
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I'm not necessarily talking about things relating to ue5 though. There are enough custom things to make Asa MUCH better for modding than ase was.

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Rn the major issue with Asa is public perception, and some performance issues. All the other issues are at most no different then ase

true viper
#

So far as public perception is concerned, I think it's largely to do with very little new meaningful things that have come to the game. Bobs Tall Tales adds a lot of nice content to the game which arguably should have been there from the start, I can't really say the same about Club Ark. That's just my opinion on that.

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Which is why I would hope Ark II would serve as the means to introduce mechanics and other additions that people would like to see come to the franchise.

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The new dinos are nice, and do matter a lot to the game, but they don't make the game

untold ingot
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That's kinda the point I was making. As good as Asa backends and the potential for modders are, it is kinda lost in the bad public image surrounding the game because there aren't enough significant front end changes to make it distinct enough for players.

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That's what is making it controversial. It's different, but not different enough. And if they do ark2 and it's different but not different enough it'll ultimately cause the franchise to collapse.

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Unless they can expand the playerbase, each subsequent game will only be played by an decreasing number of the prior playerbase. New people aren't really playing ark in significant quantities

true viper
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Mechanically, Ark II is already dramatically different than ASE/A. Most of what WC wants to do with the game is what should have been there from the start imo.

untold ingot
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It's a significant design problem, and I seriously don't envy the people making the decisions

untold ingot
true viper
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I think part of the issue is audience capture as well. Anytime WC does or add something new, there's a lot of hate that gets thrown their way.

untold ingot
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Yep

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Even if it's a good idea

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So they really have to smash it with ark2.

true viper
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If there's one thing that Ark players hate, it's change. Doesn't matter if they're necessary changes or not.

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I'm half tempted to say that WC should just abandon catering to the contingent of fans that don't want to them to make Ark II, and solely stick to ASA, seemingly until the end of time. In terms of finance, it's just not a viable strategy.

untold ingot
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Well, in their ark2 advertisements they literally do say that ark2 isn't necessarily for ark1 fans. So they are aware of the issue toi

true viper
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Right, which is why it's garnered so much negativity from within the community.

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It's entirely my subjective opinion here, but I do feel like that potential of the game is being dramatically neglected. There's a lot you can do with a setting like this, which I don't think could be done with the current formula.

untold ingot
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Well there is a lot of potential, but there is the limit of finances. If people don't like Asa and actively fight against it (like they are now) it makes investors less likely to approve significant changes.

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And through snail, ark is severely limited to decisions made by investors. If it was just wc I feel they would be more open and capable to do more

brazen lance
#

when time 2x

brisk prawn
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Probably a year after release so for Ark 2 I'm estimating.... 2040

jade nimbus
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I'm expecting it somewhere in the 23rd century.

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2250 to 2260

tame geode
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So funny...

brisk prawn
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To be fair, WC has a lot of long delays XD

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Maybe not 200 years worth, but deffinetly adding 2-3 to their claim

jade nimbus
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Yeah I'm guessing early 2026 to be absolutely honest

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Late 2025 maybe but I don't think so

untold ingot
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Iirc 2022 was the original date lol. It's already 2 years late

tight galleon
#

Man ark 2 is fun dude, this dodo and I were fighting with weapons and he parried me

spark grove
#

they cannot keep their employees staffed due to money they probably wont be able to push out new products on time if at all

rotund heath
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Umm

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Hi broskis

dapper path
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ark 2 is in the think of it everybody knows ARK2 🤫

true viper
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thick of it?

honest latch
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lets start a count while mods are asleep. I'll start: 1

blissful estuary
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2

sick swift
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3

finite whale
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wawawewa

dire osprey
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Esperando ando el Ark 2

plain osprey
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Wish it comes on ps5 to

jade nimbus
trail swallow
distant spindle
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You guys ain’t never coming out with ark 2

dapper sparrow
solar yoke
#

ARK 2 hahaha .
What a joke!

sage stream
#

whats the latest official update on ark 2?

compact harbor
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The game no one wants and no one asked for. Third person dark souls combat. Will 100% be so broken and unplayable

blissful perch
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I have both wanted it and asked for it. I believe this makes your statement moot

blissful perch
dreamy fiber
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@blissful perch I agree w u

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I have been waiting for ark 2

mint swan
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No but the whole new npc species is rlly wierd

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Thats my only worry

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Although i like the primitive focus and the whole combat idea

true viper
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Oh man it’s him

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CRAIG

untold ingot
untold ingot
cobalt osprey
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Hella

spice cloud
pine basin
pine basin
#

I mean, 2mi copies on Steam alone, that's 1/10 of the ASA numbers, but it's still a lot.

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also, they have been on consoles and game pass since day one

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I would say they got a lot of money, which doesn't mean they are comfortable enough to shift focus to ark 2

untold ingot
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Considering that most of ase profit went down the drain in a failed snail electric car, I think Asa is doing pretty well

frail locust
#

And out of nowhere they delay ark 2 again

pine basin
split dove
#

seeing as they're not gonna even talk about Ark 2 during Extra Life (not even a delay date) my hope for news this year is gone

pine basin
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The engine update (that was supposed to make the game usuable on mid-end machines) was delayed for the Q1 2025.

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I don't see them working on Ark 2 before players start migrating massively to ASA. What would be the point to split the user base again?

naive bloom
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Hola

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Alguien de Perú

hexed mortar
#

No

languid hamlet
wooden lion
#

Xd

true viper
#

Another based Strider take

hasty ocean
# languid hamlet Tons of people wanted better combat lol

I feel like tons more people would want a optimized game so a wider range of people can play it (and so they can make more money) that actually isn't based on "workarounds" for fixes with actually proper labeled items and have it work as efficiently as any other 70$ triple A game

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But i guess combat could be more fun sure

thick moat
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im losing hope not gonna lie

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just wish they would stop "torturing" us and would just give us info on what's happening with it

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at least at the end of the year idk

hasty ocean
#

I wonder how many people would be upset if they released ark from early access and then released the optimization update

tough torrent
#

When will there be ark mobile 2 version?

gaunt mango
#

It’s never happening

next chasm
quaint basin
#

i got over weight is this normale ?

tough torrent
gaunt mango
#

Announced 4 years ago and since then we’ve seen a handful of concept art and they now don’t even mention it. It’s dead guys we might as well just accept it

tough torrent
#

Are you watching live from ark which is currently broadcasting

gaunt mango
#

Like why on earth would you say you’re developing a sequel then pivot to a full blown remake of the original. No one asked for it. They desperately need money is the assumption but just being a realist when it comes to Ark 2. Don’t see it ever happening

gaunt mango
tough torrent
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They have adapted it into a new version for mobile devices with new maps and PC-like functionality

gaunt mango
#

Adapted what?

tough torrent
#

So you still haven't seen them playing the latest version when it's about to come out

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a version that can be viewed as ark 2 with pc maps and up to 100+ different dinosaurs

gaunt mango
#

What are you talking about? Latest version of what? More ASA pish no doubt

tough torrent
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New ark mobile version with many maps, I see up to 6 different maps for players

gaunt mango
#

Just realised you’re talking about Ark mobile. This is the thread for Ark 2

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You’ll be about the only person who gives a 💩 about the mobile version 😂

tough torrent
#

for me it's just the name for the new ark mobile version
It doesn't make much difference whether it adds the number 2 or not

gaunt mango
#

Yeh well this is the thread for Ark 2 not the mobile version.

tough torrent
#

:>

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oki

stuck beacon
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Holee

pine basin
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Ark 2 isn't in their short term plans.

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WC/SG have a bad habit of just abandoning their products when they flop. This time they just did it prior to launch.

blissful perch
robust parrot
#

oi

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Hello

thick moat
distant nova
#

the real problem is that they said Ark would be released in 2023, and they canceled it close to the expected launch date...

they gave the impression that the game was at least 50/60% ready and I imagined they could show something because if 60% of the product is already done, they should have something to show, but they don't...

the feeling is that they had NOTHING... and still have NOTHING.

untold ingot
glass moth
#

its just a flat out spit in the face of their community tbh. no info, nothing for such a long time.... its sad tbh. so many people love ark and wanted to love ark2 but WC.... just wont EVER do the right thing it feels like. its like they take one step forward and admit fault on the engine upgrade... but 200 steps back with everything else they try to do. I mean.. ive tried to hold out hope or faith that they are good people and are trying their best to make their sh*t work... but ive given up now I think. They just truly dont care about us

tulip bronze
#

they have to milk asa for as much money as they can be4 anything about ark 2

crimson sinew
#

where the vin at

desert swallow
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Dealing with legal issues

ionic meteor
#

ARK 2 is delayed till 2025 likely to release around the 10th anniversary of ARK

split dove
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so same time roughly as the release of the animated series part 2

ionic meteor
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Not sure, he said there'll be a live stream celebrating the 10th anniversary, this was confirmed after they revealed the animated series clip, rassclark asked jeremy & jesse about the 10th anniversary thats when he talked about ARK 2

languid hamlet
split dove
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it's gonna be on gamepass day 1 iirc

ionic meteor
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Honestly it doesn't suprise me the way they casually just confirmed another delay on a livestream without an official statement, i don't understand the reason behind lack of communication about ARK 2

split dove
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probably knowing how the vocal part of the community reacts to any statements and not having anything they were satisfied with showing

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or being forced to withhold info about it untill close to launch

ionic meteor
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That I understand, I believe snail games were responsible behind the announcement of a late 2024 which we all knew its near impossible given the amount of focus and development by Wildcard on ASA, iirc snail games lied in one of their investor calls earlier this year when they said more news on ARK 2 would be coming in the following months and we received nothing

digital pendant
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I guess no ark 2 announcements at extra life

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They could have at least said if the game is still a thing or not

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And announce the obvious delay

thick moat
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yeah they don't want backlash and will just release it and announce it whenever

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for the time being it's better to just forget about it

stray elm
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ARK-2 will probably be a Cyberpunk 2077 situation.
Announced nearly a decade before it actually releases.

prime meteor
jaunty lotus
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Why removed the tek ??

stray elm
gritty marten
tribal chasm
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I really hope they start Ark 2 (if it comes out) like the Time Capsule version of Ark (December 2015) in the sense that;
things should be difficult or limited again. No more infinite eco / dinos / easy capped bps etc

true viper
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I would have preferred to hear something about Ark 2, at least they had the decency to tell us ahead of time that we wouldn’t be seeing anything.

glass moth
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why do i feel like the giant bison concept art has a human model from ark 2

worldly garden
true viper
languid hamlet
eager shore
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Bean

gloomy abyss
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What is ark 2

mint swan
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i feel like its gona be more story mode like not as open world but who knows

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hope its decent tho when it does come out in ten years

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lol

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im hyped for it

stray elm
mint swan
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did they oh thats cool

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i havent really kept up with the news in ages ngl

stray elm
mint swan
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oh lmfao

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im curious for what it will be like still a while till its out and who knows how many delays unfortunately

stray elm
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Realistically, we'll probably see it in around five years.

mint swan
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yeah thats a very long time

stray elm
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Feel like it's getting the Cyberpunk 2077 treatment, where it was revealed **WAY ** too early for its own good.

mint swan
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i prefer ark evolved to asa tbh

mint swan
stray elm
mint swan
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ok

formal rampart
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Delete this forum or rename it fantasy

mint swan
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lmaooo

worldly garden
pine basin
worldly garden
pine basin
worldly garden
dusk sandal
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Guys you see the new dinosaur

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fresh thistle
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Can I run Ark 2, which will be downloaded to a phone with 12 RAM and a Helio G99 processor, version 19?

fallow niche
fallow niche
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@obsidian glacier Don't misuse the dedicated channels. This is for Ark 2, not recruiting. Use #1110949794907684965.

languid hamlet
fallow niche
crisp relic
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Have they said anything about ark 2 release ?

languid hamlet
clear oracle
flat shadow
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will they push the release back again? :( its already november and nothing

true viper
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More than likely unfortunately

obsidian yarrow
dire yarrow
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i dont think ark 2 is gonna happen

inland stirrup
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its November 2024. Do you still believe in any release of ARK2?

lost hemlock
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Yes

worldly garden
true viper
brisk prawn
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I'm just curious how it will be because they said it wasn't really designed for Ark players. If I remember correctly.

true viper
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I have to imagine that it's the context of what we've grown accustom to in ASE/A

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Obviously gameplay traits like taming/mounting and base building are present in the game

brisk prawn
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True. It's supposed to be the same world type from what I understand, just revamped combat and back to early tech we had with ASE launch. The funny thing is, an overhaul and redesign of the game to improve it would be incredible, there is just very little faith atm and I think that's why so many people are trashing on the game. It has the potential to be a massive boost in the right direction though

fallow niche
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A lot of the trashing is the forced 3rd person, and the souls like combat which people are interpreting as "souls like game"

brisk prawn
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Oh... I didn't know about forced third person. Ick XD

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I have almost 60k hours in all the fromsoft
Souls games so that bit doesn't bother me lmao.

fallow niche
fallow niche
brisk prawn
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Yea, attaching any part of the souls game type to your game description is a huge burden to pick up because the people that look at it don't have a middle ground. Either they love the combat system or they despise it.

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And it always comes with the expectation of being like a souls game

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And I pray that they don't use nitrado. Lol. They are such a trash server hosting company.

fallow niche
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Hahe needs to be Gportal beewiggle

stray elm
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I just want some form of first person, even if it's minimalistic.
Fuck, I'll take the Conan Exiles version where the camera is half-assly placed inside the body, and you get kicked out of first person the moment you pull out a weapon/tool.

true viper
icy echo
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Still no info on ark 2?

true viper
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Nothing new just yet

fallow niche
true viper
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I just don't understand where that mentality comes from quite honestly. At a certain point the current mode of this game will have to be retired at some point.

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Ark II could be the gameplay equivalent of best parts of ASE/A and the new things WC wants to do.

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Part of me thinks it's origin is in the PvP crowd

fallow niche
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I'm willing to just wait and try it tbh, we don't even have gameplay yet so atm it's just words and no one knows how it's going to look/feel when it's actually being played

true viper
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I would be more willing to wait if we were at least seeing more of the game. Ultimately I have no choice but to wait, it would just be nice to see more Ark II stuff in the crunches.

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Assuming that Genesis 1 and 2 won't have a BTT content pack, I would like to think that the cutscenes with the Ark II characters is leading up to a reveal of some kind

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Extinction may very well be just that when it releases.

thick moat
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but that's what wc wants ark 2 to be so people would end up liking it if they do it according to their vision

true viper
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ASA is built off the back port of switch version to the best of my knowledge

thick moat
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yeah but that switch version was kind of new right? never played it on there after they reused it

true viper
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it's a frankestiening facelift of what we have only had for a decade. At a certain point it's just going to collapse in on itself I feel.

fallow niche
thick moat
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yeah that's true, a reimagined version of ark is a better word

fallow niche
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It's a sequel xd