ark-2

[blissful perch]

I’d prefer a “shove” system where you simply push things away when you sprint with a tame. Even if only applied to wolf creatures that would work

Sprint through eels with a tuso? Eels get shoved out of the way and you’re moving

[winged dome]

Nah, makes much more sense to stop a multi-ton horrifying squid monster in its tentacles because it bonked an Eel

Also -zaaaaapppp-

[blissful perch]

angry sounds

[hardy barn]

Is ark ascended coming out later this month or was it pushed back again?

[verbal wind]

it has to come out this month

[hardy barn]

Like it’s confirmed?

[blissful perch]

Literally wait

Like…what? 3-4 hours? A crunch will come out and you can see what WC will say about it

[hardy barn]

Oh ok thanks @blissful perch I am not on discord a lot and didn’t see that they are doing a crunch

[blissful perch]

Dude nw - just making sure you know that the answer may be just around the corner 🙂

[hardy barn]

Ok

[blissful perch]

If we hear nothing you can ping me and we can complain about it together 😂

[hardy barn]

Ok 😂

[calm meteor]

Anyone else looking forward to the next CC?

[hardy barn]

I can’t wait I have been holding my money to get ascended and I can’t save money for the life of me

[grim kestrel]

I always check them out and see if it anything on ASA or Ark 2, if so I read it fully. If not I usually just leave it be.

[calm meteor]

Usually that's exactly when something else comes along that you've wanted for a long time or something breaks. I know that

[hardy barn]

Ya

[calm meteor]

I started to read them when i heard about ASA. Ark 2 isn't interesting for me at the moment. When it comes out I'll try it out with friends who have gamepass

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 for what we do know so far appears to be where I will stick to official PvE since it has an exclusivity contract where it not launching with PS5.

ASA I am most certainly going to unofficial on a full cross play RP direction discord ran cluster.

[gusty echo]

We are guaranteed to get some sort of ASA announcement
its either a ASA game announcement or Another Shit Announcement

[calm meteor]

When it will not something that's about ASA release it might be about that dreadnut- dino (sorry but i still practicing the new names😅)

By the way is it that new mantislike insect which i read that can transport rexes?

[winged dome]

Rhynio? Yeah I think it can carry big tames

[prisma acorn]

thats the rhynio

its already in the game

[winged dome]

Which is crazy because the original concept art had it like ... Carno-sized

[calm meteor]

I know but i saw it only one time while playing so i always forget it's name 🙈

[grim kestrel]

Rynio can pick up a rex

[prisma acorn]

and take 50% reduced damage like a beer'd quez

remember when they removed that because it was too strong

[calm meteor]

I think it will be a good compensation for the cryos with regard on transport tames not on storing dinos

[drowsy zephyr]

Is asa coming out for consoles too or just pc

[calm meteor]

PC xbox (new genaration) and ps5

[grim kestrel]

Xbox Series X/S, PS5, PC

[pine basin]

Dollie said today people should tone down their expectations for tonight’s CC

They probably have nothing more to say or show about ASA until release

[grim kestrel]

I searched dollie from the discord search feature and didn't find where they said anything like that, where was it?

[untold ingot]

Dollie didn't specificalky say that, but she did say something along those lines

[winged dome]

Can confirm

[pine basin]

She specifically said that:

“Okay so Dreamy, I think it would be a good idea to keep expectations in check for this upcoming Crunch”

“yeah uh, I'm just trying to save you guys getting overhyped for tomorrow then disappointed tbh”

[grim kestrel]

Okay that why, I only looked through her post today.

Fair enough

[winged dome]

Anything more than community corner is a plus in my book 👍

[vital jetty]

CC is gonna be like "We're still on track" and then will be community corner lmfao

[pine basin]

It was actually today in my time zone. She’s is Australian, so the crunches are released on saturdays to her.

Hence why I think she said “tomorrow”

[grim kestrel]

Either way I don't need anymore convincing on ASA, just patiently waiting to hit that purchase button 😂

[pine basin]

Sure, sure. But just spreading the word so people don’t get disappointed in a few hours

[vital jetty]

I'm the opposite tbh. The closer it gets w/o anything still has me more skeptical than I was before. I'm hoping at minimum the trailers they show are given a week before release at minimum, and not right at launch.

[grim kestrel]

That a fair point to want a trailer, but just my personal opinion it seems like gamers are to reliant on needing a trailer rather than just letting devs work on it till release then you have all the game play footage in world you can watch prior to personally buying it when people start streaming and recording.

CC 381 was as good as a trailer IMO just cause it gave a good insight as to some good upgrades to look forward to.

[vital jetty]

as a pvp player, waiting around for streamers and videos doesn't work.

[winged dome]

Everything they've written shows promise for ASA, but I'd like to see those changes in action before I pull out my wallet

[grim kestrel]

I been watching Unreal Engine youtube channel for dev side of what possible in the game engine it self

[stone onyx]

I ain't buying till after launch just to see how it goes. I've seen too many games in the recent years have non working games at launch.

[tropic crag]

100% would pay to see that

To be fair, we don't get to explore most of the surface, and the caves were there before they blew up part of the Ark, and it's likely that a large chunk of the Ark is just out in space now because of the explosion

[agile tusk]

Awsome community crunch so much nice info!

[rancid harness]

Wow so informative

Definitely not worryingly lacking in information so close to the release of ASA

I'm so excited for release, but it's like, kinda draining not getting anything lol

[untold ingot]

It was a great cc wdym. Dapper griffin for the win

[tropic crag]

Fuck yeah WC, great CC. Dreadnoughtus info confirmed for next week 🫡

[potent hull]

we my see asa her twitchCon North America will be held at the Las Vegas Convention Center on October 20–22, 2023

🤔

[tropic forge]

dont hope too much

[potent hull]

i am not but noze is going to be at the event

[tropic forge]

this ASA thing is a huge mess up all the way you will see

[potent hull]

it is but the event on a friday 20

[tropic forge]

humm

2 empty cc that could have being use for FaQ about changes they made but instead nothing and next week show up, its possible but, not so sure, this gonna be like i said before, on last day everything will be up so the fan boys buy it right away so the cash start to flow cause lets be honest, you cant test a game like ark in less of 2 hours to ask refund

[ocean flower]

Where can I go for questions on ark survival ascended?

[tropic forge]

you cant, devs barely answer at all about questions of ark and most the time they answer will be joking around

[ocean flower]

wow lol

[tropic forge]

funny part after another empty cc i open yt and found a ripoff ark in early access, maybe gets better in time and wc will have competition

[potent hull]

i no way you need to buy wild card now lol

[tropic forge]

wanna see a ripoff ark in early access?

[potent hull]

is see this DAY one of asa steam will go down to many plyers downloding the game lol and dollie will be like fix it now lol

ark for all is like this songe her paradies city by gun N rosses

[desert swallow]

why is ark for all like the song paradise city?

[potent hull]

go lisin to it

[desert swallow]

I grew up listening to it

[potent hull]

ark a paradise

[desert swallow]

I don't think you understand the meaning of the song.

[tropic crag]

Oh, so you've played it? Get real and get over yourself dude lmao

[potent hull]

hay pike got a phote from the crunch i my look like it is in ue5 but is hard to tell

[tropic crag]

I saw the one from a couple crunches ago with the elephant thing, if that's what you mean

I don't think the blue anky from this last one is in UE5 tbh

[potent hull]

ok it is hard to tell

[tropic crag]

It looks about as good as my ankys look on my Series X in 4k HDR

I think that anky is also in Gen 1 in the snow biome (a map that isn't anywhere near done in ASA as far as we know) so yeah I think it's just a cool shot, but good looking out though!

[verbal wind]

the deinotherium. it looked pretty good

[winged dome]

Mods 🫡

[vital jetty]

Yeah, I'm hoping next week involves actually showcasing gameplay. Otherwise I might not actually buy. If they wait the DAY OF release to "showcase" the game that's a major redflag to me, and that's coming from someone who has been saying they're playing ark 1.5 since annoucement lol

I guess technically they have 2 weeks before the 31st, but still.

[tropic forge]

yeh jat show the 420h play of ASA although not sure if that some kind of photoshop but whats is happening aint normal at all and this is coming for a guy thats not in rush to play but to see and evaluate if is worth to be bought again

then comes dollie saying ppl are just eager and frustrated as the reason they go in riot mode on general

it dosent bold well at all as buyers to see that kind of reaction, devs trolling around saying they aint pay to interact whit they fan base but only do is messing around whit ppl asking for answer regard a game that was post ahead of another game for a remaster/remake (not sure wth is after all they keep saying remaster) in like 7 months worth of work

way too many red flags

[harsh spear]

i really like that they have removed movement speed as a skillable stat

makes the game so much more balanced and wild creatures are now a threat again

[winged dome]

Steps in the right direction, I feel

[split dove]

next is explorer note xp gains

[winged dome]

Note Exp and Cryopod limitations
Actual mutation caps, but that's a lost fight 🥹

[split dove]

don't worry, those might not/hopefully won't be a thing anymore with our new adventure currently slated for basically 1 year from now

[winged dome]

Soon ...ish

[split dove]

going by how fast this year has flown by it will indeed be soon ish

[winged dome]

'23 did kinda zoom, huh

[split dove]

i've been working for 7 months now basically, still feels like almost only 2 months have passed tbh

[fast isle]

Imagine it’s all a prank and you buy ark 1

[south lance]

hopefully this will be a lot of peoples ark "1"

[mint swan]

Ah, I can finally discuss Ark 2 again.

[winged dome]

Whew timeloop again

Hopefully once ASA is out and stable we'll start getting some new Ark2 stuff to actually talk about

[split dove]

With that in mind**, we do not plan to showcase any gameplay/screenshots/videos of ARK 2 this year**; however, we intend to keep you informed and engaged in the development process by regularly showcasing more ARK 2 assets in the months ahead, leading to our gameplay reveal next year.

[tropic forge]

lol they are giving their all just to release ASA but someone is waiting for ark 2 news 🤣

[mint swan]

For real

[winged dome]

I know, after that 😂
I think it's gonna take a few months for ASA to be stable, what with Crossplay, mods, and so forth

[harsh spear]

i heard that there wont be cryopods in the beginning of asa but later on might be added

[winged dome]

Yep, revealed in QnA crunch two weeks ago

[harsh spear]

i hope they dont add them

or add some limitations to them. i dont like that when u raid someone they throw all of them out so you dont get anything good or you throw everything out to soak the shit out of someones base without being prepared as the defender

instead of cryo-sickness maybe an actual cooldown on being able to use a cryopod.

[tropic forge]

you know in pvp after one cryo use you will have cryo sickness right?

[harsh spear]

thats what i mean

cryo sickness is abusable, cooldown isnt

[tropic forge]

how so? by mega tribes due to fact of share numbers alone?

[harsh spear]

i just explained why.

u throw everything out so raiders dont get shit. or you throw everything out to soak

[grim kestrel]

A cooldown would be on the item for the server not just an effect on the creature I would imagine

It sounds good for PvP, but I would say unless they make that a PvP ONLY feature to cryos it universally wouldn't be ideal.

[tropic forge]

well whitout cryos you couldnt claim dinos so theres that now the part of throw to soak not sure how it works whit only one person using cryos, after one cryo everything else will get k.o. until cooldown is done

and to be honest if i play on pvp throw my shit out so thief wont get it its a very desperate but good idea, ence why i dont like ark pvp, feeding thiefs ufff

[grim kestrel]

Cryo cooldown on PvE would just be a nuisance.

I'd rather just have cryos removed entirely over a cooldown and replace it with a stable structure

[winged dome]

Stable 🙏

Down with Pocket Gigas/Insert-Dinos-Here

[harsh spear]

what happens if someone destroys the structure with creatures inside ?

[grim kestrel]

Drops it like it a BP maybe and gives a set amount of time to take it to your own stable?

[winged dome]

Ala fish basket
Except it's a Rex or something

[harsh spear]

you need to think about it from both perspectives. if people destroy it to place it somewhere else to raid

that would be the same problem we have now

[grim kestrel]

Maybe it would have a KO/topor time before it could be taken out of a new stable coming from the BP form

Or a new taming time since if it not orinially your creature, then you would have to wait on a tame timer

In theory it would account for getting the dino to recognize you as it new owner.

[harsh spear]

even if you destroyed it yourself just to move it somewhere else ?

[grim kestrel]

I'm just throwing out suggestion to a mode I don't even play. I only play PvE lol

Cryo cooldown would be unreasonably annoying in PvE

[harsh spear]

yea i mean it could work. just need to think about every way it could be abused

i agree it wouldnt be ideal for pve.

[haughty needle]

Bring ark 2 to ps5 as well!

[grim kestrel]

There an exclusivity contract for Ark 2 to only launch on PC and Xbox. Rather or not there an expiration date negotiated in that contract is unknown.

[pine basin]

Look, I have nothing against fixing breeding, but they need to fix everything else, like fixing/balancing bosses and missions

without OP dinos and Move Speed we will be pretty much useless

Ark 2 is doing that, the combat will probably be way better, so we won't need op dinos for the boss fights (I hope)

But for ASA? Unless they plan to fix the rest, they shouldn't touch the mutations

Or op saddles

[pine basin]

About that, again, they would need to fix the whole meta

[winged dome]

Afaik, none of the bosses need mutations. The only dangerous bosses are ones with mechanics or %health based damage, even then each of them have cheesy strategies to get around them/make them more manageable. Same with mission creatures but holy shit those things deal way too much damage to face head on

[pine basin]

Just removing the XP buff will make leveling even more annoying

[pine basin]

They don't need to, but the chances of failling the fight without op dinos is higher

imagine a 20/20 deino fighting the dragon

chances of losing are higher

[winged dome]

With ankle strats ... just small room for error - but that's why you have backup tames

[pine basin]

the tames are easy to replace, it's the other stuff that would bother me more

collecting all trophies and artifacts again

It's a pain to get the Artifacts on the Island if you don't have teleporters

also, no cryos, taking all dinos again to the obelisks

I hope they implement the mechanics changes together with QoL changes

[winged dome]

I meant more tames in the fight itself to back you up

[pine basin]

We are limited to 20

Alpha bosses can be a pain

I would like a total redesign. But just making the creatures weaker won’t work

For pvp, yeah, creatures are totally unbalanced

For the bosses and missions, not so much

[untold ingot]

For pvp is the only place the creatures are actually balanced lol. A capped Dino will blaze through a boss fight in literally seconds

But in pvp everyone has the same stat and same quality of dinos, so it's waaay better balanced

[winged dome]

Until new players are 400+ mutations behind and have absolutely no way to compete with established tribes. Yeah, totally good balance

[tropic crag]

[untold ingot]

Except there aren't 400+ possible mutations. It's only 254 points max. It's also ridiculously easy to get those max stats through in game trading or just plain offlining someone with pts or tamed stegos.

If you are starting late, join a tribe or get good. Easy as

[winged dome]

254 health
254 melee
Or whatever combination
Add those numbers together 🤔

[untold ingot]

You can't do that lol, since the max level is only 450 for non x or r varients

[winged dome]

Still some pretty crazy stat inflation.
And you think that's balance?

[untold ingot]

At best you get 254 in one stat and 108 in another

[untold ingot]

In pvp it is balanced against other players yes.

If you can't fight those stats, don't pick a fight

[winged dome]

Players that will never be able to catch up when 'pro' PvPers can roll them without effort

That's not balance 😂
That is the opposite of balance

[untold ingot]

If you are on a server that lasts long enough to cap lines you should know how to get said lines. To many pve minded people think they need to breed from scratch to catch up. And that's just not the case

[winged dome]

And any smart PvPers will keep their lines pure and protected

[untold ingot]

Lol, not really

It's pretty easy to get good lines on official

It takes time

And knowing the meta and community

[winged dome]

So PvP is essentially PvE with extra steps? Trading lines left and right?

[untold ingot]

...

[winged dome]

You said yourself

[winged dome]

.

[untold ingot]

You didn't think trade in pvp is a thing?

[winged dome]

What would new players have to offer that a mega doesn't already have?

[untold ingot]

Time

[winged dome]

Megas would already have abundance of time, evidence of their superior lines.

And numbers, multiplying that time tenfold

[untold ingot]

Element dust or gunpowder etc

[winged dome]

All of those resources can be farmed dozens of times faster than a tribe starting out

[untold ingot]

Don't be dense, literally join an pvp discord and look how it goes lol

And?

[winged dome]

And?

That's still no trading fodder

[untold ingot]

Spend 20 hours farming arb, get a capped Dino line. Saves them farming 20 hours, and gets you a line.

There are enough videos on how to do it that there isn't much excuse for not knowing

[winged dome]

Breedable lines?

[untold ingot]

Raid for them. You only need one stego to offline someone

[winged dome]

Offline a mega

[untold ingot]

Don't play 1x as a Bob with no clue....

Play smalls, or unofficial...

If you are on 1x, the meta isn't getting the tames. It's getting a tribe lol, because all the tribes have the tames

[winged dome]

And those tames come from ...?

[untold ingot]

People who have them...

[winged dome]

So other fresh tames, lightly mutated. Against megas prime lines

How does that usually turn out?

[untold ingot]

You have obviously never played official

[winged dome]

Enlighten me

O wisened one

[untold ingot]

I don't feel like it. I've explained it enough over time that I feel it's enough

Go join a mega, and watch how they do things.

With Asa starting its easier than ever to join one

[tropic crag]

He's going to keep being intentionally obtuse, and not explain a thing lol. No point in even trying tbh

[untold ingot]

No. I am not going to explain it because I already have, like 10 times

The fact that you have no concept of it is not my problem

[winged dome]

I don't have time to waste on Officials - massive tribe or not. Either way, those with thousands and thousands of hours to waste will always have a massive advantage over those just starting out. Unless there is a massive difference in skill (which is unlikely), numbers will always win out

That is the failure of balance in Ark. The problem with mutations

[untold ingot]

You say that having 0 experience with it, and 0 intentions to play it. So it has 0 import. For pve yes. For pvp, no.

[winged dome]

Will 1 ever be greater than 10?

[untold ingot]

Strawman argument inbound

[winged dome]

It's numbers

[untold ingot]

One tiger is more than 10 kittens

[winged dome]

10 kittens with near unlimited resources, time, and imaginary virtual dinosaurs

[untold ingot]

1x is a numbers game, so join a mega. Smalls is not a numbers game, so get skilled. Unofficial is neither

[ripe cedar]

Or for smalls get people to account share with

[winged dome]

So you agree - it's a numbers game. And those with more time and mutations win 😂

[untold ingot]

1x is. Smalls is not nor is unofficial

[winged dome]

Glad we got that sorted out

[untold ingot]

Yes, some. But I am not addressing cheating. Only mutations

[untold ingot]

It's what I said from the start....

[winged dome]

No no, you were all 'It's pretty easy to get good lines on Official'

[untold ingot]

And it is

The number game is not mutations. It's players

[winged dome]

All it takes is time and numbers - in which a large tribe with plenty to spare has oooooodles of. Way more than any other tribe would be able to compete with

[untold ingot]

On 1x

[winged dome]

Yes, on 1x. Thats what we've been discussing

[untold ingot]

No we have been discussing mutations

[winged dome]

Last I checked, mutations are on 1x 🤔

[untold ingot]

And they called me obtuse

[ripe cedar]

Zen i seriously have no idea what you are even arguing anymore

[winged dome]

More people. More breeding. More chances for mutations.
Faster capping lines where newcomers have no chance of catching up

[ripe cedar]

Then they can trade or steal lines

[winged dome]

1x, 12x, doesn't matter, same concept just longer waiting between breeds

Those who start early and have more time will have unreachable advantages over everyone else

Unless like you said, get extremely lucky in stealing a breeder

[untold ingot]

Not unreachable

[ripe cedar]

If you are talking no transfers with 1 mega tribe ruling the whole server then well any argument for mutations is beat by the fact that they can player cap the server and no one could raid them mutations or not

[untold ingot]

1x is a different game. Mutations are literally a footnote

[ripe cedar]

With transfers the lines will eventually be spread across so many servers that there is bound to be one tribe stupid enough to easily give it away

[untold ingot]

Smalls and unofficial is where they matter more

[winged dome]

So all the megas use 0/0s?

[untold ingot]

Yes

[winged dome]

Seriously. For raids? Soaking?

[untold ingot]

Is that a serious question

[winged dome]

Yes

I'm the Bob
Enlighten me

Teach me the way of the PvP

[untold ingot]

Join a mega.

Or play unofficial lol

[winged dome]

I would, but there no Officials 😅

[ripe cedar]

If you think that a new 1x tribe is instantly going to start by raiding alphas then idk what you are on but seems pretty good, you would start taking progressively larger and larger raids and get better and better loot to do so until you can be established, but also yeah just join an established tribe

[winged dome]

So its sounding to me like mutations DO play a factor then

[untold ingot]

That of a footnote.

On 1x

[winged dome]

Yes on 1x, we've established that

[untold ingot]

You are intentionally oversimplifying either due to lack of experience or plain obstinacy

Judging by the trend I am more likely to say the latter

[ripe cedar]

Yeah literally every other aspect of progression does as well

[winged dome]

What I'm trying to get across is unchecked mutations over time lead to a stale environment. Either megas cap out and are only threatened by other megas, or they remain alpha with no contest

[ripe cedar]

That would happen without them too

[untold ingot]

Except they aren't unchecked on official

[winged dome]

But at least the playing field *would be a lot more level

[ripe cedar]

Since when was ark balancing ever about being fair

[untold ingot]

The playing field now is level for people who play it lol

[winged dome]

EXACTLY

[winged dome]

Rex vs Rex, one with 40 mutations in health - which one wins?

[ripe cedar]

Then dont take the fight

[ripe cedar]

Raptor vs giga which wins

[untold ingot]

Again, oversimplification

[winged dome]

How would you know?
They could be the same level

Proper line management, minimizing unnecessary stats

[untold ingot]

Tamed desmo VS giga

[ripe cedar]

You see you are trying to balance ark to be fair when thats not what it is balanced like, so why get so stuck up on mutations specifically

[untold ingot]

Most pvp tribes have a breeder or a dozen who know how to do that easily and efficiently

[winged dome]

I thought mutations were footnotes?

[untold ingot]

Ark shouldn't be balanced between longterm players and a hypothetical "might play". It should be balanced between peopke who do play

[untold ingot]

That is the reason why they are

[ripe cedar]

Because anyone actually serious about official knows how to get them

And will have them

[untold ingot]

If that concept doesn't fit with you, find a different game

[winged dome]

And Official players won't try and squeeze out every miniscule advantage possible?

[untold ingot]

Why wouldn't they?

[winged dome]

Exactly. Of course they would!

[ripe cedar]

Yeah?

[untold ingot]

I am lost as to your point

[winged dome]

So mutations are more than a footnote. Tribes have dedicated breeders for mutations

So obviously they matter

[untold ingot]

Yes, so for most players they are a footnote

[untold ingot]

... You are intentionally misconstruing lol

[winged dome]

Ah, but we're not talking about most players - we're talking about hardcore 1xers! Megatribes!

[astral token]

[winged dome]

People willing to spend dozens and dozens of hours for a mircominiscule advantage

[untold ingot]

And they all have the lines. Even new ones, even ones that get wiped

[astral token]

Ark pvp will always be a thorn in us normal people’s sides

[untold ingot]

Ark pvp doesn't affect your pve world

[astral token]

It does tho

[untold ingot]

In nerfs alone

[winged dome]

^forgets no speed leveling affecting both game modes

[astral token]

Remember when Astrodelphis actually dealt decent damage in PvE?

[untold ingot]

They didn't remove speed leveling because of pvp

[winged dome]

But its fine

[astral token]

Remember when Voidwyrm was not the most useless wyvern?

[untold ingot]

They did because of how many requests there were to nerf movement speed

[ripe cedar]

I killed a titanosaur in like 3 minutes seems good enough especially since the damage can be achieved with any tame and any saddle

[untold ingot]

I requested it for years more for pve than pvp

[astral token]

Im not talking abt just the speed…Im saying in general 🤷🏽

[untold ingot]

Z was. So I answered

[astral token]

I don’t think that’s a + point 🤣

[untold ingot]

As to the other, why should new tames always be better than everything before?

Power creep much?

[winged dome]

Kinda sounds like mutations 😂

[astral token]

Not better

[untold ingot]

But you know me. I would like to see massive nerfs on all fronts

[astral token]

Just not useless

Funny how PvP community never asked for a Maewing nerf

[untold ingot]

I did.

[astral token]

I did too

[untold ingot]

A lot

[astral token]

But those whiners in #general they didn’t

[untold ingot]

I still consider myself part of the pvp community

[astral token]

I do remember them whining about astro, manes and voidwyrm tho

[winged dome]

So would I - starting with actually fixing the breeding and mutations. Having a working cap would help to level the playing field

[ripe cedar]

Probably because out of all the stuff added in gen 2 maewing was not the worst

[astral token]

Manes I agree needed a nerf

[untold ingot]

Because those were absurdly broken for pvp. Maewing are broken more for pve

[astral token]

R u sure? It’s literally the fastest creature in the game

[untold ingot]

Well, luckily for you, you can now set the cap on your own unofficial. Have at it

[astral token]

Astrodelphis deal so little damage now that you’d be better off using the faster and easier to get Maewing

[untold ingot]

Yeah, but it's not pvp broken

[winged dome]

Here's hoping they fix it for Ark2 😭

[astral token]

We could with Random Configs anyway

[untold ingot]

Ark2 will have a different meta.

[winged dome]

Desperately hoping so

[untold ingot]

The intentionally didn't change the meta for Asa much

[astral token]

Also why are Manes not radiation immune

[untold ingot]

You don't even play pvp

[astral token]

I honestly hoped they would fix up spawns for ASA…but nah

Like stuff like Andrew, Desmo (nerf it pls) shouldn’t be locked to a map 🤷🏽

[winged dome]

I might on Ark2 if it wasn't so time gatekeeped
Gate...kept? I dunno. Weird sentence. Got away from me.

[astral token]

Ofc I can add it with mods

But like…it won’t exist till the end in ASA

[winged dome]

Souls PvP is a lot of fun

[untold ingot]

It will be. You might need to find a new pvp game or get comfortable with the idea of being part of a mega

[winged dome]

We don't know yet

[astral token]

ARK PvP causes more problems than provides solutions 🤷🏽

[untold ingot]

People*

[winged dome]

Thats more a balance issue with overall mechanics I think

Things not quite thought out as well as they should have been before release

[astral token]

Ferox has that thing where it gets stunned when its hit to prevent it from stacking massive damage

[winged dome]

Manas prime example

[untold ingot]

Sure. Change the mechanics. Find me a game where the person who plays more isn't better and more equipped than a new player

[astral token]

But with how ARK works its just…cringe now

[untold ingot]

How is that a pvp problem

[winged dome]

Sea of Thieves

[astral token]

I don’t mean that, just the PvP community being whiny and spoiling the game for the remaining majority

[untold ingot]

... Lool

[winged dome]

Well, equipped wise

[untold ingot]

There are just as many whiny pve players too

[astral token]

Not rlly…we don’t complain everytime a balance patch or new dlc dropped

We did resent some balance patches for making shit useless

But again, such patches were mostly thr result of PvP whining

[untold ingot]

Nah. Just whenever someone who doesn't do pve enter the chat

[ripe cedar]

I have not seen a single pvp balance change that was so broken to make pve unplayable yet for pvp it stopped it from being broken

[astral token]

Give me a single example of PvE oriented balance patch.

[untold ingot]

Mana

[astral token]

If u had the option, would u use any other wyvern or a voidwyrm?

[untold ingot]

Movement speed

Flier speed leveling

[astral token]

It was stopped because of PvE 🤣 🤣

[untold ingot]

If you had a choice would you use a carno or a giga

[winged dome]

Err, wasn't Mana nerfs because breath would outrange turrets?

[astral token]

A carno is much easier to tame than a giga, an entirely different class.

A voidwyrm is harder to tame, but worse.

[untold ingot]

I didn't say causation. Your request didn't either l. You said pve oriented

[astral token]

It wasn’t PvE oriented tho

[untold ingot]

Imo those changes make pve better. Hence pve orientation

[astral token]

As a side effect yes, they were mainly caused by whiny PvP players

[untold ingot]

A capped mana can still solo alpha bosses. I don't see what the issue is

[astral token]

Also manas got a hard cap on jump/strafe limit

[winged dome]

A capped anything can solo alpha bosses 😂
Well maybe not a Lystro...

[untold ingot]

If asking to remove something that makes the game unplayable makes people whiny, then I accept that title with pride

[ripe cedar]

So?

[astral token]

Was it needed?

[untold ingot]

No lol

[ripe cedar]

If it was up to me mana wouldnt be able to jump at all

[untold ingot]

Yes

[astral token]

Not every case makes said creature unusable

[astral token]

Bruhh

[untold ingot]

Manas are still broken in pvp lol

[ripe cedar]

What? It runs faster than basically every other dino already why do you need jumps

[astral token]

Idk whether to sympathise or fight u 😂

[astral token]

Because if it takes even a ducat of damage it stops dead in its tracks

[untold ingot]

Pick one or don't. I don't have a beef with you lol

[astral token]

Neither do I

[winged dome]

I don't think anyone has a beef with anyone here

[untold ingot]

I don't think asking for balance is whiny though

[untold ingot]

I mean I quit being regular here for a reason

[winged dome]

What, me?

[untold ingot]

Nah

You tend to be more argumentative than informed, but it's all good

[winged dome]

Oh good 😂
I don't really have anything against anyone - it takes a lot to actually get me angry

[astral token]

Some balances weren’t needed eg.—> Astrodelphis, Voidwyrm

[winged dome]

I just like to discuss and see/try and understand people's points even/especially if they differ from my own

[untold ingot]

I think only 3 people in the server managed it and 2 have been banned lol

[winged dome]

So, thanks for indulging me a bit tonight

Genuinely

[untold ingot]

Just try to use less strawman pls lol

It's a pet peeve of mine

[winged dome]

Sorry, habit

[astral token]

Whats a strawman

[ripe cedar]

Voidwyrm would never do less dps than lightning so you still wouldnt use it

[untold ingot]

Astrodelohis did need a nerf. It was one tapping players in capped tek and wiping bases like mad

[untold ingot]

Oversimplification of an argument

[ripe cedar]

I have no idea how they let its lasers damage structures

[untold ingot]

ASTRO was beyind broken for awhile

[astral token]

Making the damage not scale with melee/saddle % rlly made it suck for PvE, especially for a creature locked in tek

[untold ingot]

I mean, it's still a flier that goes in water and has a fun flight mechanic

I still like them in pve

[astral token]

Ig

[untold ingot]

They are travel Dino, like the maewing

[tropic crag]

This. 1000 times THIS

[blissful perch]

Same. If my crusade against movement speed didn’t do it, my crusade against mutation for ark 2 just might 😛

[blissful perch]

While perhaps poorly explained, sea of thieves is a great example. The amount of time spent playing the game is far more valuable than the time spent in a single server on a single day. Ark is basically the flip of that - where the longer you’re on a server the more materials, tames, stats, etc you amass, and with it you can establish a massive lead on other players regardless of the skill gap.

[blissful perch]

I would hold until we see what the progression system is like for ark 2. It could be less tedious and time intensive, thus harder to gatekeep by hours per day like ark 1 is

[blissful perch]

Pure pain. It needs a nerf

[untold ingot]

In an effort to not beat a dead horse, I honestly doubt it'll change that much

[untold ingot]

I'll agree to this

[harsh spear]

how would you nerf maewing ?

[quasi sail]

Kill it

[waxen fractal]

Slow it down like 90%

Its good for weight and easy to tame it doesnt need to be so fast

[pine basin]

In theory every creature was nerfed in move speed, so we are good here

Also, we are in the dark here. We just know there’s “much more” changes to ASA when compared to ASE, but we have no idea about the details

[split dove]

they only removed movement speed leveling, base speed they are already stupid fast (wich can be enabled again with server settings)

[south lance]

^

they might extrapolate those changes to flight speed, i doubt it but nothing wrong with hope

[pale timber]

Yall think we will get og vibes again like the feeling of playing ark for the first time ?

[harsh spear]

if creatures differ in size i think it could be interesting for variety and give new incentives for breeders

not crazy much just slightly

[harsh spear]

obviously not. and you shouldnt go into it with that expectation

[pine basin]

That we know of, because they are always saying “and much more”

Also they’ve said the mutation changes are related to the base stats and the way it’s calculated, that alone can be a huge nerf

[tropic forge]

careful wishing og vibes you might get it and those aint good at all

[plush geode]

It shall be never forgotten

[south lance]

what do yall think will happen to asa after all the old dlc are rereleased and the new dlc is released on top

whats the long term plan while ark2 is under development

ik nobody knows for sure, im asking for fun

what will they do to continue getting money from asa when ark2 is released

[split dove]

And finally, the ultimate reason: whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

[south lance]

yea

what are some ways it can grow though

will they just keep releasing new dlc every year?

cause atm it seems like every dlc just powercreeps the game further, i dont know if thatll be a sustainable cycle for several years

maybe theyll change that

[split dove]

ARK: Survival Ascended will include all its previously released DLCs and maps in its remastered form and will have its own content roadmap. This will include new story content for the game, its own gameplay/QOL changes, new DLC, seasonal events, and more (some things we’re not quite ready to talk about yet!)

[south lance]

maybe theyll adopt separate monetization systems

theres gotta be more than just more of the same

otherwise the new dlc just becomes the same as the old over time

#general

[split dove]

that's all i could find

[south lance]

yea

thats the stuff we are most likely to see

though its still relatively vague imo, and leaves enough room for imagination

we can probably be confidentin at least a few more dlc, paid or not

we know of 1 at least

[true fox]

Did I miss it or no new ASA news this week?

[south lance]

i dont remember anything particularly amazing from the community crunch on friday but i havent read it

[mild raft]

noone cares about ark 2

[stray elm]

No news

[long burrow]

the latest thing ive heard on ASA is them saying we'll see a trailer before buying and its still looking good for end of october

[tropic crag]

Bold statement, coming from someone with a lollipop in their discord handle. Got any numbers to back that up, or you just talking for the sake of it?

[tropic crag]

Quit harshing everyone's mellow dude, let them hope and don't be such a downer all the time

[tropic crag]

That goes for you too, doomer 9000

[harsh spear]

im just being real. if you go in with that expectation youre setting yourself up for disappointment

[mint timber]

New

[tropic crag]

Well be "real" somewhere else, the game may very well give players that feeling of playing Ark for the first time again, you don't know it won't and can't say that for literally anyone else

[harsh spear]

surely ill just leave cuz some discord clown told me to.. i know how it is to chase nostalgia and its never the same

[leaden fern]

ARK 2 coming in 2070

[placid shore]

Will ASA still have a tether on multiplayer for consoles?

[grim kestrel]

tether is only for non-dedicated servers.

I honestly didn't know it was a thing in ASE until recently in this discord considering I have never had a reason to join a non-dedi. I just go to unofficial at that point.

[verbal wind]

the word t r a i l e r is also banned from what i saw a couple days ago

[tropic forge]

gotta rule whit a ironfist

[gloomy raptor]

Banana is not a bad word

[harsh spear]

im not gonna lie, the fact that movement speed isnt skillable anymore alone makes me very hyped. pvp is gonna be very interesting now. like chasing someone on foot is gonna be viable and u cant just run away

[untold ingot]

It was only banned that day, because people were mad and being obnoxious

[verbal wind]

ah

[harsh spear]

why ?

[verbal wind]

trailer

ok then

[untold ingot]

Because there was no trailer

[calm meteor]

What do you think, will we get an Steampage tomorrow (or in other timezones the day after tomorrow)?

[pine basin]

We probably won’t. This requirement won’t affect ASA as they will open their Steam page on the release day

[calm meteor]

I Askese because everywhere i read about this two-week-rule that steam should have.

[harsh spear]

2 week rule is that steam page must exist. but they can have it set to private so only steam and them can see it

[calm meteor]

I wonder what the point of that is, but ok

[tropic crag]

Ok boomer

[untold ingot]

The fact that bruising gets away with stuff like the above is a bit absurd

[tropic crag]

Join the fanclub, he called me a clown lmao boomer is hardly as bad. I know you hate me for some reason, but try to hide it a little better

Probably one of the people who reported me for absolutely nothing and got me swamp fevered out of pity for the tryhards

If you don't like me, block me, simple as that

[rancid harness]

You just push the line on toxicity is all. You know what you can get away with though, so while you might be brash and rude, you never quite cross the line.

😉

[tropic crag]

I treat others how they treat me 🤷‍♂️

[rancid harness]

I'll accept that.

[tropic crag]

And it is true I will never be banned, because I'm not stupid enough to do so. Really easy not to, just... follow the rules.

Either way, really wish there was some quality stuff to actually discuss in here lately, and it wasn't just "shit on people's dreams and also Bruising for some reason" hour lol

Maybe next week when they show off the dread, should be neat I imagine

[rancid harness]

I'm literally just sitting here sucking my thumb waiting for something to happen. Idc if it's ASA, Ark 2, or WC shutting down forever, I just want to see a videogame I can play, or get confirmation that I'll never be able to play a new game from them.

Like sheesh.

[pine basin]

Look, I respectfully advise you to look for help, that’s not healthy

[split dove]

baby syndrome™️

[tropic crag]

[verbal jacinth]

I agree brother, waiting for some new survival game content

[mild raft]

its a pin mate and its just a dead game for pve bobs. Waste of time and will be a waste of wildrcards time when it dies in 2 months

[verbal jacinth]

Yikes

[tropic crag]

Are... are you talking about ASA, or Ark 2? Do you even know what game you're talking about?

[mild raft]

seeing as this is ark 2 channel. Id guess ark 2 surprisingly enough

[verbal jacinth]

Yall are comedians

[mild raft]

its funny to see another person care over someones elses thoughts😂

he writing a paragraph rn

[verbal jacinth]

Dont be hypocritical my G, uve defo cared before

This is ark 2 channel

[mild raft]

i said it will die in 2 months when it comes out

its funny to annoy people

such as you. You scaly wag

[verbal jacinth]

Ur such a scoundrel

[mild raft]

longbottom cheese eating scaly wag

😭😭😭

this guy is too funny

[verbal jacinth]

no way you got smoked, he bloxked you, id cry

[mild raft]

no chance he is actually serious😭

[verbal jacinth]

I couldnt handle the rejection

O.o goodness

[mild raft]

got me upset n tha now

@tropic crag we all good yeah. I really dont want there to be problems!!! gonna be missin you

[native harbor]

Move on folks

[verbal jacinth]

No but real talk, do you think ark 2 will be dead ? I dont think i really care how the game plays if ill be honest i just want to play it, thats that

My bet is it will be Unreal's leading UE5 engine game when it releases

Unless soemthing else releases in the meantime to rival it

[mild raft]

i think asa will be main. ark 2 will be mad popular to begin eith but people will get bored of no pvp and just fighting dinos

[verbal jacinth]

Wait no pvp ?

[mild raft]

doubtful. Not many games are similar to ark. Very unique

[mild raft]

yerp no pvp i heard. Completely just gameplay i believe. Kind of like story mode

thats why im wanting to play asa and that

[verbal jacinth]

Whaaaat thats acctualy a little bit dissapointing

[split dove]

so you believe clickbait youtube videos lmao. there's still gonna be pvp and pve lol

[tropic crag]

Who told you it's PvE? Nooblets?

[verbal jacinth]

Interesting, i'm sure they will add it, they have plenty of time

[wispy sierra]

Lmao where'd you get that

[mild raft]

news crunch

[tropic crag]

Read the Steam page

[mild raft]

back couple months ago

[verbal jacinth]

Nah you might be not caught up or misread

[split dove]

please list the community crunch number

[tropic crag]

It was not in a CC lmao

[split dove]

oh i know

[mild raft]

mate im not takin time out of my day to go lookin😭 just remmeber reading back awhile ago. Someone wanna give me a link where i can read the ark 2 then?

[tropic crag]

They would never say that when the evidence to the opposite is right there and was posted years ago

[verbal jacinth]

@mild raft BRO he unblocked you !!!

[mild raft]

i know im happy again now. Can finally rest easy

[verbal jacinth]

Phew

[mild raft]

hi @tropic crag

[tropic crag]

Burden of proof is on you bud, we ain't gotta look up anything

[mild raft]

grow up

[verbal jacinth]

NOOOOOOOO

[native harbor]

Move on

[verbal jacinth]

True

[tropic crag]

Really wish they would

[verbal jacinth]

I'd highly doubt there is no pvp, id bet money on pvp being a huge part XD

[tropic crag]

Boy, do I have news for you

[wispy sierra]

it's never been announced anywhere that ARK 2 is PVE only

bro is tripping

[verbal jacinth]

I think he's a silly goose

[split dove]

off the whazooh

[wispy sierra]

what a silly goofy rapscallion

[verbal jacinth]

Absolute flopper

[split dove]

such a silly scrumptious scallywag of an individual

[verbal jacinth]

Mf call himself "human" when he plays

Woah big question, what will the default survivor name be ???

[wispy sierra]

if it's not Bob

[split dove]

Shaggy doo Bobu

[verbal jacinth]

Crazy questions today

[wispy sierra]

then we boycott the game

[verbal jacinth]

Thats pretty spot on

[split dove]

it's called ''the Ark 2 steam page/Xbox store page'' pretty sure you are able to look it up on your own

[dark oxide]

Bruh we ded

[ocean mason]

all the ARK 2 info is in the pinned comments

[verbal jacinth]

There yah go much better

[mild raft]

@ocean mason where is the pinned comments located too

[ocean mason]

are you on pc?

[mild raft]

im on phone atm

can go on pc. But on phone

[ocean mason]

you can do it on phone swipe to where you see the user list and there should be a "pins" there

[mild raft]

thank you bud

[ocean mason]

all goods

[prisma acorn]

why do i feel like i missed something

like something was there and is no longer

[desert swallow]

FOMO

[blissful perch]

The greatest losses are when you realize you never knew what was taken away

@ocean mason is the Dollie comment in here confirming ark 2 will have official PvE and PvP pinned? May be helpful for folks like Sirius who would prolly appreciate the confirmation from WC

[ocean mason]

wheres the comment?

[blissful perch]

Somewhere in here…uh I can look for it?

[ocean mason]

I cant seem to find it

[blissful perch]

Oh yea I can’t link chats here. Sadly I can’t find it either

What I did find was that Dollie said structured PvP countered “sandbox survival” which will be key to ark 2

Obviously not the same, but it does at least imply she’s thinking of ark 2 PvP…tho I swear something more definitive was said

[broken dune]

is there a comic book for ark 2 story?

[split dove]

^

[split dove]

no, you will get the story from Ark 2 in Ark 2 when it launches (currently slated for end of 2024)

[blissful perch]

That’s the one…tho I swore she confirmed more clearly in my head lol

[vagrant valve]

เหงาจังไม่มีเกมเล่นรอแต่ ARK 2

[blissful perch]

I also saw the very sad post of Dollie being reminded how Garbo the community can be about news lol

“I’ll be transparent!” -> is met with animosity

For a game that requires so much tedious grinding and waiting you’d think we could collectively be more patient…

[split dove]

I think we've been fairly transparent about where we are at in dev and such.

I understand lots of people want to seemore and if you prefer to wait until then to get excited, that's also super understandable, probably for the best in some cases. I think causing yourselves stress over it though, is really unfortunate. You'll have eveything you need to make an informed decision prior to purchasing ASA. We acknowledge the concern re: gameplay and such, but the reason you may feel we are taking it somewhat lightly is because we are feeling quite confident with what we have and we're sitting on what feels like this great present we can't give to players yet haha

or this one

[blissful perch]

That one

I dunno if I even saw the first one…it’s good Intel

[split dove]

had to copy paste it from general chat backlog

[wispy sierra]

that was your first mistake: having expecations for the ark playerbase

[split dove]

just look at what some did today

[south lance]

dude i look back at what i used to say and i have no clue where it came from in that moment wtf

[prisma acorn]

I think they should make all emotes / skins available to earn in game or purchasable for a dollar each or something. In case you didnt play the event or would rather just buy them

that would be a non gamebreaking form of monetization

[tropic forge]

certantly isent a p2w on emotes/skins but is just the beginning for something else later on

[prisma acorn]

maybe, or maybe the money they make off of cosmetics encourages them to make more dino/player cosmetics and emotes

its very likely at some point there will be some form of microtransaction once the content stops coming and giving suggestions for things people are willing to buy that isnt P2W helps steer the direction it will go

games like rust have a cosmetic shop and theyre doing great

especially because the cosmetic shop was opened to the public

[blissful perch]

Many good games and good studios do paid skins to support development

You have to earn money to develop something full time…so money has to be exchanged somewhere

[prisma acorn]

[blissful perch]

You actually need MORE money over a LONGER time to sustain a service though - one that so many here seem to take for granted

[prisma acorn]

its great that they could release paid dlc at a steady flow. it helped keep the game alive. but if they only have one or two dlcs planned, they need something for the years after to help keep the servers up

i think theres lots of room for weapon skins and the such

stuff like a ghillie covered fabby would be cool

I'm a big pusher of microtransactions for things people want to have, not need to have

[blissful perch]

Firmly optional cosmetic dlc is a great idea - however I also do agree that it can be tricky in a game like ark to have locked cosmetics and have mods running

Since modders may be limited by the need to prevent “pirating” the paid cosmetics through a mod

[prisma acorn]

oh im sure that will end up happening, it happens with the league of legends custom skin fan groups where some people just make it so you can use any paid cosmetic

then you got people who make kogmaw into yoshi

[blissful perch]

My concern lies in the tension point between those two interests…yet I think minecraft also offers paid skins now?

[prisma acorn]

theyve done that on console for a long time

since release, i bought a few on the 360

texture packs too

[opaque dagger]

yo yo

[prisma acorn]

you could earn them through some system in xbox live

i think it was bing points

[blissful perch]

I see all of that as a positive thing

The goal is “the game is popular and has supporters who want to financially contribute -> let’s give them a way to do so that doesn’t ruin the experience for others”

[tropic forge]

tbh i belive that talk of new canon dlc will be more like a new season pass for 2 dlc's like happen whit gen and if is true they wanna have ASA working side by side whit ark 2 more season pass will come otherwise yeh i can see mtx coming to the game which btw if that happens not sure how much wc studios will be able to hold off snails greedy hands on that matter

[split dove]

whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.

[median egret]

Just make a season pass it’s not that confusing

[blissful perch]

A season pass like…an ark dlc? Or like many other games that have cosmetic unlock season passes?

[harsh spear]

if they would use the season pass money to improve live service then sure. like going against cheaters & exploits

but no pay2win

server stability was also a massive issue

[pastel frost]

When Ark 2

[blissful perch]

Today! It’ll happen at 25:00 sharp

[pastel frost]

What

What the freak is 25:00

[split dove]

can't count?

[blissful perch]

An hour after midnight on the same day

[pastel frost]

Wouldn’t that be tommorow at 1:00 am

[split dove]

ding ding

[pastel frost]

Ok buddy 🤓

[blissful perch]

I’m strictly speaking of maintaining it - which arguably could include what you describe. Though I do want another…method aimed at official players to ensure they pay for their service. I’d resent my money going towards official services and not development if I got a skin.

[pastel frost]

So tomorrow they tell us when it releases

[split dove]

correcto

[drowsy zephyr]

Any news on asa yet

[split dove]

release still on track for the end of the month

[prisma acorn]

they may tell us when ark 2 comes out in about

[pastel frost]

I bet 3 years

[prisma acorn]

365 days

[drowsy zephyr]

Was looking forward to see a new gameplay video of Asa

[split dove]

there will be a trailer before release as Dollie said, you can only riot if it goes up and there is no trailer

[pastel frost]

Where will they tell us this info discord, twitter, youtube?

[fallow niche]

#announcements and #766826918803800074 , typically.

[pastel frost]

Thx

[long nova]

Ark 2 2027

[blissful perch]

If it drops in 2027 it’ll be wild tho. Extra years to make extra content

[tropic forge]

gotta say that pic put a smile on my face but same time feels a lot of cinematic shot

[pine basin]

Yay! Finally an screenshot

Looks very similar to the Ark 2 new model

[tropic forge]

yeh

[mint swan]

What does the announcement mean?

[tropic forge]

cert if for deploy of the game

mostly for consoles that resides the problems when certification goes under review specially sony

[pine basin]

Certificatated = ready to release

[mint swan]

Okay thank you

[tropic forge]

most likely 3 to 5 days for wc have it ready for all platf

[pine basin]

Yeah, but most importantly they have a certification build, which means they are ready for release

[tropic forge]

well for most means they have requirements for pc

[pine basin]

Dollie: “"certification" is just the final step that we have to take to release a game on consoles and it involves the game being heavily tested on specific platforms to ensure that it is stable and compliant with the platform requirements. We're excited because we've taken that final step! She's in! Now we wait.”

[blissful perch]

Stable? Ark?

shook

[pine basin]

Define stable? 🌚

[blissful perch]

“Stable and compliant with platform requirements” 👀

[pine basin]

Some friends of mine think they are mentally stable tho

[tropic forge]

ho it will be stable for at least 1st month of that server but after....

[pale grove]

Cert for console means it doesn't have any bugs that could damage the console itself usually they don't want to release a game on there console that bricks it or causes it to overheat

[drowsy zephyr]

I just want to know the recommended pc specs to run Asa and see more screenshots /gameplay on pc

[lethal falcon]

Doesn't crash in the process of them testing the other requirements

[potent hull]

all look at ark twiter page

[hardy barn]

When’s the release date?

[desert swallow]

Thursday

[tidal pier]

I wanna preorder but don’t see anything

[potent hull]

we my see somthing on 20 thow

[potent hull]

no pre ordwe sorry

[desert swallow]

could be

[potent hull]

orders

[tidal pier]

And my dreams came crashing down

[paper elk]

So I’m confused. Are ASA and Ark2 the same?

[potent hull]

no

[elder siren]

Don’t the certs take like a 7-14 days to complete?

[potent hull]

asa is ark 1

[paper elk]

So are both releasing at the same time?

[potent hull]

is al most don sow we my see a trailer of asa on 20

[potent hull]

no

asa this month

[south lance]

is it a good thing that this channel kept the name ark2

[lethal falcon]

well ark3 would be premature

[pine basin]

No, it takes like 48-72 hours

[grim kestrel]

#ark-survival-ascended is where ASA is going to be for.

[south lance]

yeah

but that means no real slowmode here

[grim kestrel]

It'll still be on here I mean it is for Ark and General still.

[south lance]

not as bad as in general

[grim kestrel]

I anticipate when Ark 2 gets within release range the category name will probably change changed from "Ark: The Future" to "Ark 2" and there will be the same or similar channels in the Ark category added to this one.

[grim kestrel]

I actually have to click a tag for general as I have certain channels muted and setting turned on to hide muted channels and that one of them as I don't use it and get tired of seeing new chats for channels I don't use.

[hollow pumice]

So ASA is gonna be release thursday?

[south lance]

no

[south lance]

fair but i wanna use general, i just cant cause cooldown

[fallow niche]

This category likely won't need to change. It's still Ark2 and TAS. For now, #ark-survival-ascended will be ASA and then we'll make a new one for ASE, is what dollie said a while back.

[grim kestrel]

Ah fair enough

[grim kestrel]

Where you come up with that? 👀

[hollow pumice]

someone said the release date was thursday

[grim kestrel]

Unless it comes from WC then don't believe a word. Watch the #announcements and maybe possibly #766826918803800074

[hollow pumice]

Ok

[pale grove]

They aren't gonna say a date they may fail cert and have to resubmit its happened before on one of the docs which is why Sony got that one Like a month after everyone else but being cross-platform eventually means everyone waits til there all rdy

[hollow pumice]

they said they got cert already

[pale grove]

They submitted for cert

[stray elm]

No

[grim kestrel]

#announcements actually said they submitted for certification, so it in process

[hollow pumice]

oh ok

[fallow niche]

Plus #766826918803800074 message

Gives a little more in-depth info

[grim kestrel]

I never check that channel lol, cause they don't tag Ark news in there

[potent hull]

look like the photo on twiter is from the asa trailer

[fickle jackal]

I saw a video say possible delays for console... is that speculation or 100% as of right now... or just clickbait?

[stray elm]

Just clickbait. No confirmed information

[fickle jackal]

thx man

[stray elm]

👍

[grim kestrel]

#announcements and #766826918803800074 is where you can expect real information

[fickle jackal]

ill keep a look out

[potent hull]

will we see any news on 20 or will it be empty

[fickle jackal]

people speculate twitch-con maybe...but i mean who knows lol

nothin is for sure until its out ig

[potent hull]

i mad the photo my pc back round look even better

[grim kestrel]

That Raptor though, just that in-game image from photo mode that Raptor looks 1000x better than any Raptor in ASE

[fickle jackal]

bro it looks real

[grim kestrel]

I'm gonna be interested to see how the sun looks coming off Tek Raptor/Rexes

[potent hull]

make the raptor your back round photo for you pc see how well it look

[grim kestrel]

Nah, I have a particular background on my PC that doesn't change for anything.

[pine basin]

I mean, ASE is 8 years old, the Raptor TLC is also a few years old. It has to look better in UE5.

[bronze swan]

is it to much to hope for, that they fixed the wyvern's lack of landing properly...

[grim kestrel]

One thing that is probably one of the best corrections is you will have your tames marked on your map which is really good. I hope that actually goes for your tribe members to so it easier to meet up than watching coordinates with a GPS.

[pine basin]

We don’t know, but they have until December to do it

[pine basin]

AFAIK they are implementing the same system we have on SOTF

[bronze swan]

id love for them to allow trackers to stay even when transfering. so its easier to find lost dinos XD

[pine basin]

your tribe mate can mark a point on the map and you will be able to see it

[grim kestrel]

Tame trackers are there for your dinos, so I'd say even if you transfer with them on you in a cryo they will be there if you pop them out before tribing up cause they are still tamed to you. In tribe they are owned by everyone in your tribe so everyone will be able to see them.

CC 381 told us that much

[bronze swan]

thats awesome

now I don't have to spend 90%^ of my time, finding my husbands tames XD

[potent hull]

her want i need to no question what % is the first map in asa what i mean is how different dos is look to the there ark game

[grim kestrel]

Can you try saying that again in English, please and thanks.

[potent hull]

question what % is the first map in asa what i mean is how different dos is look to the there ark 1 first map

[grim kestrel]

Considering we haven't played it yet, can't really put a solid answer to that. But based on community crunch 381... I would have to say night and day difference.

[verbal wind]

from what i've heard dino trackers could end up bugging and deleting the dino

[potent hull]

i see ty

[grim kestrel]

I wouldn't hold any personal comments of potential bugs to any value what so ever unless it came from WC themselves.

Considering we haven't even seen it in action in ASA

[verbal wind]

some bugs i've seen myself or had happen to people i know. one person on our server glitched out while using climbing picks and got yeeted under the map and lost their stuff

[potent hull]

i want to see a photo of a Gacha in ue5

[odd elk]

will it be released Xbox 30th? i need to know 100% so i can inform work of my sudden holiday days

[verbal wind]

after that happened i've promptly thrown away any climbing picks or blueprints for them i've found

[grim kestrel]

Experiencing totally unrelated bugs compared to a new upcoming feature isn't indicative of said something entirely different happening.

[verbal wind]

not comparing it to stuff in asa, just saying that's my experience in ase

[potent hull]

no it will com when it dos

[proud thicket]

When Ark 2?🤣 \

[potent hull]

never lol

i want to see a photo of a Gacha in ue5

[grim kestrel]

Well good luck considering it still end of October so it could be 31st or sooner. Only time will tell, there still two more Fridays before the 31st so that two more possible community crunches to be given out in #announcements. Or they could throw us a curveball like they did today with the announcement they submitted for certification and when it passes they just throw out a confirmation date in #announcements and #766826918803800074 .

Just sit back and go along for the ride.

[potent hull]

the raptor in the photo my be of a baby one

[grim kestrel]

New Player Character Assets with Revamped and Improved Customization

^ That line from 381 is something I am looking forward to checking out and it could end up with me taking half an hour or more to create a survivor and save it as a pre-set if it as detailed as it sounds.

[potent hull]

[rigid aurora]

absolutely not running to pillar my pve spot then i’ll make a new char if I wanna

[grim kestrel]

I am immediately going to unofficial server looking for one run via discord with full cross play PvE for an RP community direction server so don't have to worry about that.

I got better things to do than concern myself with land grabbing and toxic behavior known from official.

[winged dome]

Same, hopefully a community planning to cluster with maps as they release - at least for the lore maps

[potent hull]

did you on see the asa in game photo

ontwiter

got her as my pc back round

it look better

[potent hull]

did you see the asa photo she was look for you lol

[grim kestrel]

👀

[potent hull]

to no ASA release date you need to tame the date to see it

[verbal wind]

at most 2 weeks to go

ive uninstalled ASE so i am ready

[grim kestrel]

I am saving the uninstall until purchase and it prompts me to uninstall something to have space where I will pick ASE then.

Still playing on an unofficial until ASA goes live

[verbal wind]

i stopped playing a couple weeks ago so i could let my interest build back up

wanna get that itch to play before asa

[pine basin]

According to Douglas Kennedy the trailer for ASA is already complete

Also cuda cores confirmed the raptor screen is from the trailer

Hopefully this week’s CC comes with a surprise 🙏

[grim kestrel]

That understandable as I can relate to building interest like that in other type games.

For me open world games I like to part time play toward the end so I don't burn myself out before getting the new one, but also I get to fully experience just how much better the next edition looks, feels, and overall is so much better.

[silent totem]

Does anyone know if ark 2, will cost? Like if you have ark 1, will ark 2 cost? (And maybe someone knows when ark 2 comes out?)

[hardy dune]

Cost? Cost what

[winged dome]

Ark2 will cost. Why wouldn't it? If you buy a car, do you get next year's model for free? Of course not

[silent totem]

*I meant what will be the price of ark 2, like if you bought ark 1, will you have to buy ark 2? (My English is dying slowly....)

[keen drum]

Ark 2 and ark 1 are completely different games you are gonna have to buy it

[hardy dune]

It will be a new 60dollar game I assume

[silent totem]

M alr, ty

[keen drum]

Late 2024 is what was said but it will probably get delayed

[silent totem]

Not me hoping that it would take longer then late 2024 ☠️ (my honest opinion tbh)

[keen drum]

I probably wont get it tbh apparently it will be a more story focused story-based game

[silent totem]

Oh damn, I mean yeah..if ark 2 takes so much pc space like ark 1 then, no way I'm getting ark 2 ☠️ (i can't play most of my games cuz of ark 😭)

[keen drum]

I'm glad i got it on playstation lol, it barely takes up any space

[silent totem]

Lucky fr, cuz literlly ark takes so much space on pc mostly (I think) is actually crazy...I keep downloading ark, deleting it then redownloading it again, cuz I want to play other games...

[keen drum]

You planning on getting AsA

[silent totem]

Nah

[potent hull]

yes

[cold needle]

depents if its rushed buggy and so on then not

[blissful perch]

Depends on if the increases in quality and changes to balance are different enough from asa. I’ll prolly grab it at Ab because I’ll take any reason to play Ab again

[south lance]

40, itll be 40 at launch

[hardy dune]

okay

[fervent moon]

ah the old 390gb of space it takes up lol

and add another 40 ish depending mods

[prisma acorn]

just have 4 tb

???

[grim kestrel]

I ended up looking at general by accident and just decided to look at the slow mode time... It only 10 seconds. This channel has a 5 second slow mode.

Can't tell me that is hindering you from using that channel cause as long as you're chatting through one post and not being one of those that spam 4 lines of chat for basically one statement.

[split dove]

what wacky video did you watch that says that? Ark 2 is still gonna be like Ark 1 but with some changes to mechanics and adding new stuff. there will be a story but it won't be forced upon or be a story only game. the actually officially confirmed stuff can be found on the Ark 2 store pages.
New stuff like Component based Item crafting/Dynamic World events/Character progression and a skill tree/Sensory based creature ai/An opposing PvE force (the Aratai from the announcement trailer)/Souls-like Combat (not 1:1 but inspired by Dark Souls) and Third Person only gameplay

lemme get it posted up regarding first person mods and third person only design rq

Foremost among these redesigns are the core player mechanics. In the sequel, which is third-person-only, controls and movement for both players and creatures have been completely redesigned. Taking inspiration from game systems like Assassin’s Creed’s automatic parkour and Breath of the Wild’s climbing, player characters can now clamber over the environment in a more realistic and freeform manner. With a focus on primitive-era combat (Santiago and Tek have a ‘complicated’ relationship…), ARK 2 draws heavily from Souls-like action for its human-scale combat: an emphasis on dodges, blocks, light and heavy attacks, combos, and player-reflex skill – a rarity for the PvP survival genre.

Finally, saving perhaps the best for last, ARK 2 adds a revolutionary new feature for console players: fully stackable, user-created mods, including on unofficial servers, for the Xbox version of the game enabled through official mod support by mod.io! This means that players who create mods using the PC version will be able to upload them to the cloud and make them available for all console players to enjoy as well. With this, as we’ve seen with ARK 1 on PC, everything in the game can effectively be changed, improved, and redesigned: new creatures, new game types, new maps, new weapons & items, and mechanics** (yes modders can re-add First Person mode 😉 ).**

[south lance]

it was a minute yesterday, its been slowly decreased, but this happens whenever a dev arrives, which is becoming increasingly common

and the bigger issue is that there isnt anything in general worth much more than single phrase texts

its a shitpost channel for the most part, but you cant effectively shitpost in it

[grim kestrel]

Maybe that why they have to raise the slow mode time to calm down said "shitpost" as you put it and get it back to normal discussion to prevent it being flooded with nonsense.

Just a thought

[blissful perch]

Normal discussion in general? You’re tripping

We discuss S tier ark 2 content here, but idk about general

[fallow niche]

Please stop using this channel to complain about general chat, you can take it to dms.

[undone orbit]

Does anyone know if there is a Discord that has a list of all the old Official servers that are being hosted by people now? Trying to see if there is a hosted version of the map I played on most. -Thanks

[blissful perch]

No idea. You can try asking around general or recruitment though

[pastel frost]

So is there a release date for Ark 2 or was it all ASA stuff

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 is still slated for end of 2024

ASA still for end of this month, but they did announce yesterday they submitted certification process in #announcements and #766826918803800074

[pastel frost]

Will it be on Xbox 1x or just next gen or is it an add on to the base game

[grim kestrel]

ASA is only Xbox Series X/S, PS5, and PC (Steam/Windows)

Ark 2 is currently only for Xbox Series X/S and PC

[pastel frost]

Dang

Oh well I am getting a new Xbox at Christmas time so it won’t be that long of a wait for ASA

[grim kestrel]

And you may get to start with being able to have both The Island and Scorched as Scorched is intended to be released for ASA in December along with transfers enabled.

Given neither Scorched or transfers have to be pushed back

[pastel frost]

Wait so what is the base map if island and scorched come after release

[grim kestrel]

Only The Island at launch for the end of this month.

[pastel frost]

Also will there be new features in ASA like tames mechanics stuff like that or just a graphics boost UE5

[grim kestrel]

You should check out this page here, it'll give you an insight to that
https://survivetheark.com/index.php?/articles.html/community-crunch-381-sunsets-on-ase-new-horizons-on-asa-and-faq-r2165/

[pastel frost]

Thanks so much for your help sorry for bugging you.

[split dove]

look at these crunches

[grim kestrel]

No issues at all, glad to respond where I can.

[south lance]

check the other large ark discords hosted by random ark players, since such a group would be done by the community exclusively

trading discords and such

[drowsy zephyr]

will rtx4080 be enough to run ASA at 1440p medium settings at 60fps?

[thin sable]

I would recommend the rtx 5080ti, to run it at 1440p and 60fps ….
rly?

[prisma acorn]

6090ti

[south lance]

idk any active ones

[drowsy zephyr]

lol the 50 series will take a while to release, all i have is a 4080

[prisma acorn]

You'll need the 6090Ti 32GB to run very low all settings off

its in their minimum spec on the page

[drowsy zephyr]

can you send me the link

[prisma acorn]

and its recommended you run on windows 15

[drowsy zephyr]

[prisma acorn]

They're gonna skip 13 and 14 and go straight to 15

[drowsy zephyr]

lol there is no point releasing the game then if no machine can run it

[prisma acorn]

when they released ASE a 1080Ti could barely run it on 30FPS

I don't think they made any improvements until Rag was released

[fast isle]

Grrr bow imma skip town

[tropic forge]

yall wrong whit requirements aint 24 core cpu or 32gvram to run ASA at max quality and 120fps you need a quantum pc for that

[prisma acorn]

So you're saying I need to break into a military base to play ASA?

[tropic forge]

naa no need military just one major supercomputer facility for research is enough, less security 🤣

[prisma acorn]

But going to the military base would prepare me for raiding/pvp in ark

[tropic forge]

if only you survive it of course

[prisma acorn]

Hey now, you don't win every raid

at the end of the day you just need to learn to accept that

[daring kayak]

is there a release date?

[grim kestrel]

End of this month

[daring kayak]

its coming or release date

[grim kestrel]

That all we know, #announcements and #766826918803800074 they announce they submitted the game for certification, so it close.

[daring kayak]

k thanks

[prisma acorn]

yeah EOO

[prisma acorn]

since they had to remake the dinos, do you think some of the ocean dinos will have gotten a TLC patch ?

since they needed them anyways

[chrome lodge]

Maybe the ''and much more"

[true fox]

2 weeks to go

[blissful perch]

The oceans as a whole need TLC. Less collision issues, less stun/creature spam etc

[tropic forge]

and more resources even if is the existing ones like metal rocks etc

[thick tulip]

some ambient "untameables" wouldnt hurt either. maybe a few schools of various fish that give the feel of a living ocean...just saying

[blissful perch]

You’ll know the same time we do 😉

[blissful perch]

Agreed, especially the basics like wood thatch and fiber. And tbh some more gathering tames for those (which I’m aware isn’t coming anytime soon but that’s my two cents)

[blissful perch]

Problem is that those creatures fill the seas with performance losses and little benefit beyond ambiance

[grim kestrel]

Thanks to UE5 Nanites that engine can handle a lot more AI aspects and moving parts than we have seen before.

[thick tulip]

for me, ambience IS the game and i know my PC can run it. but for those that can't, could be made a sliding value like the ground clutter etc

[blissful perch]

You can’t sliding value entities though

[tropic forge]

gotta confess, if there was drifting wood on the ocean it would make the surface of the ocean a hole new thing

[blissful perch]

True, but there’s a cost associated with bloated sea entities that don’t do anything

[blissful perch]

Could do that, could also do wood from corals or other sources like they did in genesis 1

[thick tulip]

makes sense if theyre moving about

[blissful perch]

It makes 0 sense…it’s like adding a client slider that turns off wild creatures on a server

Since I assume you’re proposing adding things like coel parakeet fish and jellyfish rather than non-interactable things

[thick tulip]

lol i gotcha champ; i'm agreeing with ya 😂

[grim kestrel]

Nanites do have a scaling ability so depending on what graphical settings are there to choose from should be able to have quite a substantial range between low end and high end settings for what systems can handle the game.

[thick tulip]

i was thinking smaller, like clownfish or angelfish etc

just a little splash of flavor to the reefs

[blissful perch]

But I presume you’d be able to actually interact with them

[thick tulip]

there's my point 👍 unable to interact. just for visuals

[blissful perch]

It would be prolly within ue5 to add “decor” fish and such to reefs, but it would be really weird since there are no other purely aesthetic entities in the game

ASE has sounds and one other aesthetic entity I’m aware of…the birds that circle megachelon. But that’s all I’m aware of

[grim kestrel]

Even in CC 381 WC did say player run unofficial servers can have 100+ player servers, but that IF they reduce stasis-replication range or lower the maximum dino count. Which is an example of how the engine can be scaled up and down to work for each situation.

[blissful perch]

The scaling is a great thing, but there’s always a question of value:performance in terms of trade offs

Ark’s impressive in that, unlike most other games, almost everything can be interacted with in some meaningful capacity. Which means that it would be a bit strange if not contradictory to add aesthetic “fake” entities - especially since they’d not be well received by all players because they cost performance and don’t really change gameplay

[tribal chasm]

The game can be very unplayable on busy servers, not because of 'lag' but because the dino spawns are so low ... makes taming really difficult, hard to get meat/hide etc. I hope it won't be like this for ASA or Ark 2 as much

[tropic forge]

that only happen on early access of ps4 (2016 if not mistake) thats when i play but after like 1 month that was fix and never happen again, now mod maps, the giant ones, yeh there was too much empty space between spawns but the wild dino count was on the limited so nothing could be done

[blissful perch]

Part of the issue, which likely isn’t being fixed in Asa, is that you’re encouraged to meatrun the entire map for resources and you’re able to do so with trivial effort

A single person can wipe a massive chunk of the map for hide and rob the entire space of creatures until they respawn

[tiny dune]

who cares

[tribal chasm]

I forgot to mention boss fights too, trying to farm for boss tributes, or tame things early on and it's ...
10 hours vs 1 hour on less populated server just because of the spawns mechanic

[blissful perch]

It’s because the game breaks down with no creatures lol

[pale grove]

Most unofficially run Dino wipes officials don't so your food runs are manual Dino wipes

[south lance]

just scale spawnrates with pop

that would be a simple fix

or maybe not

depends on how spawn rates work

[potent hull]

Code cleanup refers to the act of writing code so that it cleans up leftover data structures and other unwanted materials from memory and the filesystem. It is sometimes treated as a synonym of refactoring code, which involves making the source code itself easier to understand, maintain, and modify.

[pine basin]

But that's not the case, ASA was made from the ground up

[verbal wind]

well, not exactly from the ground up. they had an entire game to work from, so they had the general layout and basic rules set out already

[untold ingot]

Nanite doesn't handle animations though. Nor does it handle Ai. Nanite is for rendering meshes lol

You can have a nanite mesh on a creature, but that doesn't mean you can render 1948271938271 of them at a time. Animations and other hidden code features can still cause significant lag

[rancid harness]

Everyone out here thinking it's gonna be exactly like dark souls or Horizon when the steam page literally says "survival open world crafting" and the devs have openly stated that Ark 2 is going to be what they wanted Ark 1 to be.

[pine basin]

We were talking about code, not game design

The code is new

Of course the lore, creatures and a portion of the gameplay and features will be the same

[analog hamlet]

ASA Info

All information about ASA can be found in the following article:

• Community Crunch 381

Last updated: 2023-09-30

[dull arch]

Where da trailer my friend

[calm meteor]

For ASA we haven't one at the moment but it does exist and we will get it soon i think

[tardy spruce]

I reckon Friday

[hazy tartan]

[indigo light]

Fr Fr

[long nova]

Ark 2 2027

[winged dome]

No exact date, but end of October. $40 at launch

[split dove]

ASA is going trough the final Certification build with Sony and Xbox atm, so whenever they approve it (5-7 days if it's good to release) we will know the exact date

[winged dome]

Includes ASE DLC, but not including to-be-announced DLCs

[split dove]

$40 for ASA and all Ark:SE DLC's

[winged dome]

No later map Engrams (no Cryo pods on Island, maps until Extinction, ect). Cave balance, we don't know the full details on what that means yet

Officials have no movement speed leveling. If you read the recent Crunch QnA, likely all of your questions would be answered

I think he's a pretty cool guy

[split dove]

sounds like a guy worth clinking with 🍺

[blissful perch]

Um guys the only new ark we can talk about is ark 2 here