ark-2

[vapid valve]

yea normally theres a steam page or somthing before release

[stray elm]

I don't know. I just feel like it would've gone a bit smoother if they released the trailer like last year, or this years Game Awards.

[stray elm]

There is a steampage for ARK-2.

[potent hull]

found it 368 crunch

[pine basin]

Center isn’t official

[potent hull]

After much deliberation, we’ve decided to delay the launch of ARK: Survival Ascended to later this year and ship the title on Xbox Series X/S, PlayStation 5, and PC in October 2023.

We’ve found it challenging working with Unreal Engine 5.2, but at the same time, it is incredibly exciting. We’re discovering new ways each day to push the technology to the next level; combined with the work needed to support a fully cross-platform-moddable game ecosystem on consoles and PC, it’s clear that we’ll need a bit more time.

We’ve also decided to separate the release date of The Island and Scorched Earth. With what we’ve learned about remastering The Island from the ground-up, it wouldn’t be feasible to complete Scorched Earth to a standard we’re happy with. So for now, we’re going to plan that Scorched Earth will be coming to ASA in December this year, Ragnarok and Aberration will follow in Q1 2024, and the rest of the maps beyond then.

[tropic forge]

they dont have a final version yet they are still working on it, they will announce it soon

[pine basin]

Center was the first community map

[potent hull]

scorch earth will com out in december for asa

[stray elm]

I don't know. I just feel like it would've gone a bit smoother if they released the trailer like last year, or this years Game Awards.

[grim kestrel]

Ragnarok is set to release with Ab within Q1 of 2024

[vapid valve]

well if it reallly is coming out on the 23rd they better hurry up

[tropic forge]

yeh thats why i said " ho right i get it" cause youre talking about release by story

[stray elm]

Wonder how delayed the new DLC is.

[tropic forge]

who said its 23 oct?

[pine basin]

What???? 😂

[vapid valve]

im talking ASA

[grim kestrel]

Can't delay something with no current announced time frame, it still has to be announced

[pine basin]

Here, community crunch 368

“Are there going to be any changes to the release order of certain content?

Generally, we will keep the canonical maps released in the same order.
We may make some adjustments with some of the non-cannon maps and release them sooner, but that honestly depends more on our pipeline, so we’ll announce them accordingly.”

[potent hull]

isad your call what i was saying fak news

[pine basin]

Read above

[stray elm]

It did have a Q4 2023 release date

[pine basin]

Official info, my friend

[tropic forge]

yeh, who said its coming out on 23dr?

[potent hull]

yes look at 368

[grim kestrel]

I never saw that in any of the 4 CC, which one did they put that in?

[pine basin]

The official maps will be released on the same canonical order as ASE

[potent hull]

We’ve also decided to separate the release date of The Island and Scorched Earth. With what we’ve learned about remastering The Island from the ground-up, it wouldn’t be feasible to complete Scorched Earth to a standard we’re happy with. So for now, we’re going to plan that Scorched Earth will be coming to ASA in December this year, Ragnarok and Aberration will follow in Q1 2024, and the rest of the maps beyond then.

[stray elm]

The very first one.

[vapid valve]

After much deliberation, we've decided to delay the launch of ARK: Survival Ascended to later this year and ship the title on Xbox Series X/S, PlayStation 5, and PC in October 2023.

[pine basin]

That’s literally confirming what I’ve said

[vapid valve]

ARK: Survival Ascended is an Unreal Engine 5 remake of the original ARK: Survival Evolved game. It was announced on March 31, 2023 on survivetheark.com[3]. Currently planned to be released in the end of October, 2023 as an early access title[2], with DLC content released over time.

[pine basin]

SE, then Aberration, then extinction and so on

[stray elm]

" We plan to release a new canonical-story expansion pack for ARK: Survival Ascended that will be available in Q4 2023. This DLC will feature four new creatures, which we’ll share more details about later this year! "

[potent hull]

what i was say on it that we going to haf to what till next year forcryo posd

[stray elm]

I'm gonna assume this years Extra Life will probably touch a bit on the new DLC.

[vapid valve]

@tropic forge idk if its true or not but every where ive looked says oct 23rd

[pine basin]

Look, I’m not really understanding what you are saying, but what I’ve said is based on official info

[stray elm]

Wait, I just realized this'll be their second time releasing a paid DLC while in early access. 💀

[tropic forge]

well if you refering the year than yeh its this year, i though youre saying 23 of this month

[pine basin]

And people were so happy back then 😂

[stray elm]

Eh, we saw the quality of it and the hatred died down. Became more of a meme.

[vapid valve]

nah im just stupid yea OCT 2023

[grim kestrel]

Ah okay, I missed that. Eh for me unlike others it doesn't matter about when the new map drops as long as it turns out to be a good design and will a good variety of wild dino spawns.

[tropic forge]

and might come another one later

[pine basin]

They have to, they’ve said that after ASA release they will flood the community with info

[stray elm]

That's unconfirmed by Wildcard right now. Only Snail has stated that they'll be two.

[stray elm]

Yeah, and that they'll be more open.

[potent hull]

what i mant is we will have to what for Extinction map to see cryo pods that is next year and a haf

[tropic forge]

well i dont read snails news so i have the impression that i read it on a cc

[grim kestrel]

He did say "might" leaving it open to happening or not.

[stray elm]

No CC mentioned having 'two' new paid DLC's.

[pine basin]

And where did I say anything on the contrary?

I just said the official maps will follow the same order as ASE

The community maps won’t follow any order

They will deliver whenever the maps are ready

[grim kestrel]

Except for Ragnarok which got confirmed as the first one to be released

[pine basin]

Yeah, true, and it’s already out of order LOL

if they’d followed the order it should be center > Rag > Valguero etc

And hopefully scorched will have a proper ascension this time 😂

[pine basin]

Yeah, all official info so far talks about a dlc on singular

BUT I don’t think they will stop there if they really intend to keep the servers running for years

They will probably have more than just 2

It all depends on the success of the base game

[proven eagle]

Imma Tame a Golden Dodo 🦤 bird in Ark 2

[potent hull]

it is Scortched Earth coming to asa in December

[tropic forge]

naa i can see they making a season pass for 2 maybe 3 new maps and if ASA is to go whit ark 2 side by side i can see another season pass like 2 to 3 year later

[potent hull]

then will they add a map or to from ark 2 in to asa but make it look Different sow as to fit with asa

you no in ue5 they can add snow all over ark map for Winter Wonderland in ue4 they did not have the tools they do now in ue5

[calm meteor]

Really? That would be so beautiful😍

[gentle kiln]

What percent of island will be original and what percentage won’t like 50% 50% 20% 80%

[blissful perch]

You want a speculation or a fact?

Fact - we don’t know

Speculation - WC stated they’re balancing caves (likely through map changes), but haven’t stated any other map changes. Expect a slightly tweaked version of the island that’s mostly the same but not completely

[tribal chasm]

There's some locations on The Island which looked like they would somewhere else (ie a big cave) -- namely some of those water pools in the south zone / west zone

I lowkey hope they added some locations like that in ASA >.>

[orchid valve]

How much do u think the maps are gonna change 🧐

[blissful perch]

@orchid valve

[orchid valve]

Don’t matter

[blissful perch]

Np, I provided both

[calm meteor]

Exactly 3 Weeks until last day in october. 2 or 3 CCs possible until ASA release as long as nothing explodes now, as Dollie so beautifully said.

[prisma acorn]

we should realistically get a date within the next 10 days

[mint swan]

we have "dynamic weather" in some older games using older engines... and i dont think that will happen in ASA, only in winter event like on ASE yes, ARK2 maybe will have, it will depend how deep they will work into the game, what matters have powerfull engines if not use it

[calm meteor]

If they do it for spezial events i think it will be more beautiful then when we can get it all the time

[prisma acorn]

they did it for the first fear evolved

the entire map was fall themed and there were leaves blowing in the wind

on SE at least

[calm meteor]

Sounds very nice. Hope the will do it again in ASA

[mint swan]

i guess we will see it in December in first event of ASA

[prisma acorn]

I'd imagine that it wouldnt be insanely hard to set up, they'd just need to retexture already existing models for fall and winter themes. The biggest issue would be the time it would take to do especially with them working on SE and ARK 2

so if we do get theme'd events, it might not be till after everything is said and done

[mint swan]

SE, its full desert so no need snow during the event 😂

[prisma acorn]

true xD

itd be funny tho

replace all the wyverns with ice variants

[mint swan]

also honestly just expect SE on next year..

[grim kestrel]

Honestly should get new material. It currently set to release in December so go with that until it is said otherwise by WC.

[harsh spear]

asa supposed to come out in like 20 days and we havent even seen gameplay yet..

[grim kestrel]

This might be hard to believe but it is possible to save it as a EA launch trailer which means just prior to sending it live.

[tropic forge]

gotta wait

[harsh spear]

for delay ? xD

[tropic forge]

naa its gonna come out this month either barely playable or not playable at all but it will happen

[prisma acorn]

Personally, I don't want a trailer to come out too early because I'm already hyped for it and I want to experience it all at once

[harsh spear]

u must be on copium to believe that

[prisma acorn]

There's more appeal in the mystery then the know

[tropic forge]

that makes no sense, most want a gameplay to make a decision of buying it or not

[prisma acorn]

yeah and its releasing the same day the game comes out

you dont have to make a decision 1-3 months ahead of time

you can go to the page where it availble and go "ill watch the trailer right here and now"

[tropic forge]

what about for those that play only on official? time is base spot 🤣

[prisma acorn]

the like 6000 players?

If they want to play official they'll get it no matter what

even if its dog water

they played through 1x in the first 4 years

[tropic forge]

so its fine to trick ppl to buy dog water???

[prisma acorn]

theres no trick here lmao

its not like theyre buying asa and getting my little pony friendship is magic

[tropic forge]

ho really, you think so?

[prisma acorn]

youre acting like theyregonna release a ported version of ark mobile

and call it good, cash out and leave

[harsh spear]

its weird that ark 2 trailer is out before they even started making the game but asa is soon to be released and we havent seen anything meaningful

[tropic forge]

devs keep saying remaster but not even once call ASA a remake, FaQ answer a lot of questions but none that ppl wanted, they already delay once, dollie said on general they dont have pc requirements cause they are still working on it and they dont have yet a final version to test it

how many red flags you want?

[harsh spear]

makes me think that it truely is just a ue5 charge fee

[tropic forge]

want another one. dollie said there was no point of doing another FaQ cause the game will be release soon and ppl then will find out

[prisma acorn]

xD

[harsh spear]

the thing is though, if asa is gonna be a disappointment it will shine bad light on ark 2

[prisma acorn]

I'm honestly curious what you think the gameplay trailer is gonna include? Like do you think they're gonna go cave by cave and include every changed thing?

[tropic forge]

trailer is one thing gameplay is another

one is script another is live stream

[prisma acorn]

It's almost certainly gonna be a remake of their original trailer from like 2014-2015 just with the new engine so you can compare the two

and see how much better it looks

[tropic forge]

that aint a remake its a remaster

[harsh spear]

is it true that streamers will get to play the game earlier ?

[tropic forge]

nope

[prisma acorn]

no one does

[tropic forge]

being on that ambassador page and it said key would be giving on launch

[prisma acorn]

everyone gets to start at the same exact time

[harsh spear]

ok good

[tropic forge]

actually its a shame, could be like 2 to 5 private servers for streamers to show off the game, that way ppl could see how the game is

so you can cleary see they are pushing every copium person to buy it on first day

[prisma acorn]

Just don't buy it and wait. I'm sure there will be in-depth reviews out in a day or two 🙂

[tropic forge]

i wont, theres nothing that have made me decide i want it right now

dint even had the chance to play ark 2 to buy again ark 1

[harsh spear]

other than the drought of video game industry only brining out crappy games all the time

anyone else sick of shooters?

[prisma acorn]

Not really sick of shooters, sick of the hackers in them

[true fox]

3 weeks to go! Everyone excited?

[blissful perch]

I’m curious, but I haven’t been excited about asa since it was announced. My excitement will always lie with ark 2

[blissful perch]

They could, but I completely agree that day one gameplay trailers/streams will provide plenty of information to meet the needs for 90-95% of buyers. People just want the extra confirmation from WC, which is fair (though not a requirement)

[split dove]

''insert gif i'm about to send in the discord''

[potent hull]

yes snow will only be when winter coms to asa

[tropic crag]

They actually have in fact called ASA a remake, CC number 381;

What is ASA?

ARK: Survival Ascended (ASA) is a next-generation remake of our beloved ARK: Survival Evolved, harnessing the power of Unreal Engine 5.

Maybe actually read the CCs before you come here to rouse the masses and gather the pitchforks lmao

[split dove]

read tiny text with no big font and colored letters?

[vital jetty]

Officials had, and will have, more than 6000 players. You good?

[vital jetty]

Somewhat part of my issue with the "FAQ". I didn't see most of those questions being asked anywhere lol

[prisma acorn]

They only lost about 6-10k players from closing official

still have 53k playing

47 right now

43*

[vital jetty]

Most official players quit playing the moment it was announced servers were being sunset or shortly after.

Countless people were tearing down their bases so they couldn't be saved then quitting lol

[prisma acorn]

yeah i added the last 3 months of players quitting

from steamcharts

id post the link but this server doesnt like links

so you'll have to go there yourself

[vital jetty]

Steam charts doesn't tell you everything. Many could be going to unofficials while waiting. Many can be coming back in preperation while waiting.

All steam charts does is give you HOW many people have played lol

[prisma acorn]

Also I understand steam doesnt represent all the playerbase but its the only trackable number afaik and the % is likely the same across the board

[tropic crag]

Steamcharts includes unofficial, right? So it should count everyone playing it on Steam, idk if you'd include the meager amount of players on Epic or not, but it should be pretty close with just Steamcharts regardless unless I'm missing something...

[prisma acorn]

i mean theres console and windows versions too

PS, Xbone, Win10, Epic, Steam

oh and switch

[tropic crag]

I just mean the PC network as ASE wasn't full crossplay, only Steam and Epic

[vital jetty]

Those don't matter in themselves though. A lot of people abandoned officials for unofficials when the annoucement was made. And the ones who "quit" quit awhile back, so it's hard to measure how many players were lost when officials closed, because you can't determine if all non-officials weren't on official before.

So saying officials only had 6k-10k players because that's what the number "dropped" by when officials closed is nowhere near accurate lol.

[tropic crag]

...Except he said he accounted for that, and went back several months. How does that not prove anything?

[prisma acorn]

yeah if i was like "oh when offcials closed they lost 4k players" that wouldnt be close to it

because thats how many left last month

*on steam

Id like to think the majority of players are on steam but i have a brother that plays on playstation so ya

[vital jetty]

You can see the volatility of the ARk playerbase on Steam charts even before the announcement though. It goes anywhere from 40kish all the way up to 247k depending on the MONTH** not day lol

[prisma acorn]

they exist

i think the big day was a free weekend for ark

when they had a shit ton of players

[vital jetty]

there's multiple "big" months though

[split dove]

it was during fjordurs launch when they had ark free for a small time

[prisma acorn]

^

thats right, forgot that map came out

still havent played it

heard great things though

[vital jetty]

There's multiple months of it being above 100k. Not all of those were free weekends lol

[prisma acorn]

pretty sure those line up with dlc release dates

june 2021 was a big month

gen 2 came out that month

[vital jetty]

"volatility of the ark playerbase"

Starting from June and working our way up 147k, 95k, 73k, 66k, 66k, 69k, 92k, 96k, 86k, 61k, 83k, 75k, 247k, 149k, 96k, 77k, 76k, 81k, 87k

the random spikes aside if you really want to discount them, still shows the numbers constantly changing by a few thousand to ten+ thousand at any given time. This is true no matter when you look at the steamcharts by month and year.

[pine basin]

It usually happened when new major content was released

[prisma acorn]

Looking at the Steamcharts and the DLC Steam page, you can see a flow that matches holiday seasons and DLC being added to the game. Theres typically a big increase in playerbase in the holiday season and the months following it drops off. The massive spikes are major DLCs being released like the Gen1 & Gen2 and Fjordur. Outside of those three instances it's a pretty typical flow for a active playerbase. The biggest difference here is these last 6 months there hasn't been as much growth as previously because the servers were announced to be closing and no one wanted to restart in a game where theres no future

[pine basin]

Ark is decreasing its numbers for a while because there’s no new content being released

[pine basin]

AFAIK they don’t count Epic, because their database is the steam players alone

They don’t use servers database

[vital jetty]

Still volatility in the in between months, of it going down and up.

[pine basin]

Something new released - numbers go up

And numbers went down slowly, until new content was released and the numbers would go up again

[vital jetty]

It shows volatility regardless, and you can't decide for which that is for, whether official or unofficial. People come and go. My entire point has been you can't say there were only 4-10k people on officials who quit based off of steam charts alone, because that's definitely not true lol.

[pine basin]

I think the fist time Ark surpassed the 100k ceiling was the release of tek tier

[pine basin]

Yeah, totally agree with your assessment, I’ve noticed the same thing

[vital jetty]

Numbers went down and went up in between. It wasn't always down.

[tropic crag]

And also events stopped last year, so it's been a lot steadier

[prisma acorn]

yeah i miss fear evolved

[pine basin]

In the average they always went down

[tropic crag]

Same, only one I cared for tbh

[prisma acorn]

and yeah when they made tek teir free in gen 2 it hit 147k

[pine basin]

You can’t compare mid week numbers vs weekend numbers and so on

The big ups were because new content was released

[pine basin]

Best event LOL

[prisma acorn]

the dodo rex and dodo wyvern

[pine basin]

Would have been amazing releasing ASA with Fear Evolved running 😂

[prisma acorn]

i remember the first one on se

[prisma acorn]

this this this this its such a missed opportunity

[tropic crag]

It would've

[potent hull]

how is your day to day pikmin

[tropic crag]

I'm not Bootleg, lol

But it's been good, just getting over a sickness that ran through the household several times, sucked ass but we kicked it finally (I hope)

[potent hull]

is it the ark sickness we all got it lol hop you do not get sick a gen them

[tropic crag]

Yeah, been playing Ark again for old time's sake, so it probably was Ark sickness 😂

[prisma acorn]

ive been doing the hunted on lost island

its been a ride, im preparing to do the boss

ive been told the hunted doesnt touch this boss so its gonna be harder then normal

[blissful perch]

My two cents on the above chat - officials will be well populated at the start of Asa. The question is what the heck the retention will be

[prisma acorn]

as mods get added that appeal to the larger playerbase, low

[blissful perch]

If nothing changes about one tribe capping a map and ultimately a cluster? If the game is decided by cheating and offline? I’m gonna say with reasonable odds that official will drain

[prisma acorn]

and i think it'll be fast, a week or two

[blissful perch]

There’s always a huge drop after week one, even in the most successful games. That’s just normal people trying ark official and disliking it

[prisma acorn]

someone made a video covering which mods are being made in UE5 already in preparation of ASA

[blissful perch]

The people who would “actually like” official will prolly be a noticeable drop after a month or three

[prisma acorn]

i think it was raassclark or however its spelt made a video showing stuff like paleo ark was just waiting for the dev kit to be released and his mod is ready with quite a few dinos

[verbal wind]

i'm still surprised there were so many playing officials

the rates are so bad why would you stick around?

[prisma acorn]

I mean, despite the bad rates the servers were always there, not a monthly maybe

also they dont wipe afaik

i prefer a x10 myself

[tropic crag]

There's servers that have been up since almost the start that are unofficial, contrary to popular belief

But a lot of people also don't realize that, unlike official, you gotta pay to keep the servers up when you are an unofficial host, and a lot of people don't like to donate to keep their favorite servers up, so it's kinda on them when a good cluster goes down

(We also usually have moderation but uh yeah you know the shtick lmao)

[pine basin]

Mods are just new content. After doing everything possible people get bored and stop playing. Mods are just a refresh.

After a while even modded servers become boring

But the issues with official servers in the long term go beyond that

Like structures spamming on pve, or super toxic alphas on pvp

[tropic crag]

Mods definitely do more than add content, they usually fix stuff that isn't allowed (such as flyer speed levelling when it first was taken out, or cryo cooldown on PvE at first when it wasn't optional) or is straight up broken in the base game

[pine basin]

Ok, content and QoL

[verbal wind]

my favorite mods were QoL

[mint swan]

thats not an "fix" its an change of the way it realy works 🙃

[tropic crag]

You used to be able to level speed on flyers, so uhhhh yeah it used to be the way it worked lmao

On a PvE cluster amongst friends, that nerf was useless and unnecessary so I walked it back once I was able, the mod would've helped greatly before then though as it took awhile to get the setting for us unofficials

[grim kestrel]

Eh I wouldn't say useless on PvE it was pretty nice to still have faster Argy with weight mutations for farming

[prisma acorn]

I have mixed feelings on the ms change for flyers because dinos like the snow owl have 0 wild points into ms

Let's them have more points in stam and weight

But I also like flying fast

[untold ingot]

I prefer not being able to level movement speed honestly. It doesn't add any fun gameplay to the game, but it just makes it easier and I am kind of agaisnt making it easier

[tropic crag]

It became useless by way of the other creatures that can "glide" becoming the same thing, sometimes even faster in some cases. Idk, I guess I just like options and not having them stripped away with no due recourse 😅

[potent hull]

ark is like a Tornado you play with it it go a way then it coms back lol

[tropic crag]

I think the no movespeed on players is a step in the right direction, but at that point, just make everything unlevelable in movespeed honestly, have creatures where speed is their utility actually matter. At that point (and ONLY that point) would I concede the idea that flyer speed doesn't need levelling, because then it would have a purpose that doesn't feel arbitrary or tacked on

Otherwise, the gliders are just the flyer movespeed workaround and will continue to be as they are just wildly outclassing everything else in that aspect

[untold ingot]

That is the point which official is making

[potent hull]

i give the titles the keeper of the ARK to you

[potent hull]

Extra Life the taming Rates Harvesting Rates xp Rates mating rate and more will go up with money we give for it to

in asa it will help

[tropic forge]

that event is definitely to stress test official servers

[potent hull]

I know that but it will help with the boost of Rights of all things in the ark

Asa

[tropic forge]

well it will definitely help players on official since it will be right at the beginning

[supple raven]

So how ark two going play out

[grim kestrel]

For PS5 it may not as it currently not planned to release for it with a exclusivity contract that we aren't sure if it has an expiration date on.

[potent hull]

got a website for your can i sad it to you

[tropic forge]

nice find

[potent hull]

see it on a video 29 m a goo ty

look it up

hop it help

[tropic forge]

let me guess, it was snails that promote?

[potent hull]

no a youtuber i wach

[tropic forge]

yeh but the guy found it from somewhere

[potent hull]

sent the video

[tropic forge]

lol the guy its shadow stalking a web page 🤣 i kinda do that but on steam

[potent hull]

lol

at lest he help

[tropic forge]

devs havent announce it yet

[ripe cedar]

personally im against having higher rates this early into the game, I mean it wont even be a month but its for charity so I will still support it

[potent hull]

it dos say not full secure website be car full fox

[ripe cedar]

hello death blade, would you be so kind as to send me this website

[tropic forge]

well it seems legit

[potent hull]

i hop it is

[tropic forge]

its a lot of work to be some fake site

[potent hull]

look on you tube

ark twiterpag

[ripe cedar]

what

[tropic forge]

seems that guy found it by shadow stalking it

[potent hull]

i went to twiter pag is on it

[ripe cedar]

this is just the official ark website, I have no idea how there was ever any confusion

[tropic forge]

well its a different official page that i dint know

[ripe cedar]

yeah they said that they would update their websites to showcase ASA over the next month

[tropic forge]

well seems update at least for the most part

[ripe cedar]

I dont remember the website playing music although it seems that part isnt fully working yet either

[tropic forge]

it was working for me

[ripe cedar]

it works but it just sounds bad

[potent hull]

ty fox for helping out on the new let me no it reil or not

[tropic forge]

well i wasw watching dbs when i visited the site

[tropic forge]

its real, its the same page when you click on their twitter page

humm should i said X page now 🤔

[ripe cedar]

no, you shouldn't

[potent hull]

ty for h elping me out with seen if it fak or no

[tropic forge]

feels kinda wierd seeing X when was twitter and im not a social platform follower guy

[potent hull]

lol

[gleaming inlet]

I wonder if ASA will be on game pass I know ark 2 is going to be

[jaunty pewter]

20 days left and still no gameplay

[tropic crag]

Not really all that surprising, given their past history of gameplay being shown before launch... but be mad I guess

[fringe haven]

“Close to release of launch”

[calm meteor]

Everyone can interpret the meaning of the words differently. Some that it means one week some that it means one month

[prisma acorn]

They said the trailer would come out when the game is available to purchase

in the faq

steam requires them to have the page up 2 weeks before release

and the trailer will be on that page

[vital jetty]

They said screenshots and trailers would be there before you purchase the game, and that they weren't getting more specific than that. So that could mean anything from 2 weeks before, to day of launch.

[potent hull]

we will have to fight for trailer and photos of asa to the pvp map lol

[urban tiger]

asa officail website is up

[inland oak]

link? plz

[tropic forge]

its on their twitter page no need to scroll down just look for the word playark

[inland oak]

ok thank you very much

[harsh spear]

1 tree got updated. big change

[tribal chasm]

Rough text layout in the middle there, looks like a 90's website

[untold ingot]

Yeah the middle text is bad, particularly in scorched page, but do those look like ue4 or ue5 to you guys

Basilo is jumping out of the water, I think that's a new thjng

[lime forge]

Wait what?

That’s definitely not a thing in game currently

[untold ingot]

Compare the olayark page for the island and the one for gen1, definitely different graphics

[pine basin]

Where are you seeing that? Playark page? Did they change things there?

[untold ingot]

Dunno

Maybe?

[pine basin]

I mean this, where is this?

I don’t see any basilos in there

[gentle kiln]

Any new caves or ratholes

[snow parrot]

Hla

Hola

[winged dome]

Basilo breaching has been a thing, it's not new

[chrome lodge]

Could it be possible that in ASA primitive plus get replaced by a story mod where you can play has Elena ,Santiago and all of the main characters in the story. I thinks I could be a big opportunity for the story of ARK to shine
(Sorry for the bad English)

Or they are going to keep primitive plus on ASA ?

[winged dome]

Unlikely since the original was abandoned

[green root]

will console versions of ASA have M&K support does anyone know?

[blissful perch]

Yep, it’ll have it

[tribal nimbus]

when is ark 2 relseae??

[winged dome]

Currently targeting end of 2024

[pine basin]

One good news for Ark (maybe) is Snail Games won their case against Angela Games (Myth of empires) and they will publish the game.

Maybe that will kinda relief the pressure

[white musk]

Have the devs said anything about the explorer notes? Will they still give XP? Will they be in the same spots? What do you think?

In ASA*

[winged dome]

Nothing

I hope no Exp boost. Blasting past early game with a note run makes the first 80% of the game completely irrelevant

And in a game where the majority of the community says the early game is the best part - that's a problem

[pine basin]

Grinding XP the hard way isn’t funny though

If it was funnier or more complex, I would be more than willing to see them removing XP Boosts. But taking into account the way it is to get XP on ASE, I really don’t care if they keep the boosts

[white musk]

They really need ti make xp progressive with whatever is available to craft. If you craft stuff that are unlocked near whatever level you are, it would really encourage early game grinding and experimenting with bases and builds rather than getting to level 80 in 30 minutes and then running the bug cave for late game engrams on day 1

[pine basin]

I mean, killing creatures, farming resources and crafting items isn’t really funny or entertaining. In ASE it only got more interesting to me by the time extinction was released because it has the OSDs and element veins.

[blissful perch]

The boosts are a flat out bandaid

[pine basin]

This. But removing them just make things slower, not more interesting

[blissful perch]

It allows people to completely skip worrying about player exp until the late/end game levels, likely because people were irritated that established people were hard to catch up with because of the experience gap

[pine basin]

I would like a totally different system

[winged dome]

I hope you're trying to mean 'more fun' instead of funnier 😂

[blissful perch]

In doing so, experience becomes worthless and the level system becomes clunky and ultimately bypassed

If the average time for a player to use a stone tool is under an hour…that’s not a good sign for your progression design

[pine basin]

Crafting, grinding and killing stuff should be just a passive way of getting xp. I would like to see missions/quests as the main way to grind xp

[winged dome]

^ Under 10 minutes if you can bola some Raptors for Metal tool drops

[blissful perch]

I wouldn’t mind that for ark 2, but for ark 1 that’s out of scope

[pine basin]

So just keep the boosts

[blissful perch]

I mean, they’re gonna keep the boosts. And the level progression will continue to be broken

It’s fine in the grand scheme of things, but it’s a design failure to give players a bypass to a progression system (and completely bypass the early game)

[pine basin]

Yeah, that’s what I thought. But asking to remove the boosts would just make it worse

[blissful perch]

Removing the boosts fixes the design failure but introduces the age old and constant problem ark design always has across all its dimensions - tedium

[pine basin]

Well, unless they rework the whole system with things like missions/quests, I think it’s better to keep it untouched

[pine basin]

Yeah, it would be more tedious

They just need to allow us to get the needed XP so we can move to more interesting activities

[blissful perch]

Unlikely. You already have mat grinding (massive tedium), you already have taming and breeding (tedium)

[pine basin]

Like building our bases, killing bosses etc

[pine basin]

I mean, I just want them to keep the way it is now

[blissful perch]

Which again is why they will. ASA isn’t for me

[pine basin]

I think you are right, but I have some hope they might change it 😂

[blissful perch]

There’s no reason to. ASA will be ASE with extra seasoning

My issues with ASE are at this point so structural that I’m skeptical I’ll be satisfied with anything that uses it as a base. I need ark 2 and its vision

[pine basin]

Well, they are willing to balance the game and make changes, unfortunately they can’t share which changes are being made. Its always “and much more”

[blissful perch]

The balance being done is largely gonna be in the “tweak” category rather than the upending of non-functional foundations/systems

It’s why for example breeding isn’t being fully changed - but it is being tweaked to be less oppressive

[pine basin]

I mean, by this:

“And finally, the ultimate reason: whereas ARK2 is being designed as a Souls-like adventure, we want to provide the community with an evergreen classic-ARK experience, one that can continue to grow over time on a cleaned-up code base, leveraging new technological advancements not only in the industry but also what we’ve been working on with the ARK Franchise as a creative whole.”

I understand they are willing to expand Asa further

About breeding, Dollie said they are waiting for our feedback regarding changes

You might be right, but I still have hope they might improve some of the systems within due time

Also one of the reasons they decided to have a new early access period is to get our feedback I guess

Maybe I’m just being naïve, but we will see

[blissful perch]

Think of ASE, asa, and ark 2 in terms of buildings

ASE is a building with a shaky foundation - and kudos to WC for building so many stories on it. Asa is a cleaner project, but ultimately it looks the same. The stories built on it may be more numerous and complex, but it’s ultimately ase’s blueprint. Ark 2 however is an entirely new building with the same core value but little else. This is why my excitement and hopes hinge on ark 2

[blissful perch]

They are gonna take asa past ASE (I hope), but again…it’s built with the same blueprint. It won’t be until ark 2 that WC will be able to show us what their vision for an immersive survival taming sandbox looks like. I hope it’ll be different enough to make hardcore fans of ASE mechanics happy to stick to their version of the experience (ASA) while moving the series forward.

[blissful perch]

We saw some of this in the form of movement speed changes and assorted small changes. But despite their impact on the “meta”, the actual foundational systems aren’t changing when you ban movement speed levels. That’s the big point I’m making

[pine basin]

Thing is I don’t think “fixing” progression would change Ark as a whole. It would fix one of its weaknesses. It’s different when you implement souls-like combat system, for example, this totally changes the game.

Fixing things like the progression system or breeding would be awesome and would turn ASA into a totally different game, just an improved ASE

[blissful perch]

It kinda would though. Let’s take your suggestion. You’d need to add missions to every ASE map, which radically changes every non genesis map

You’d also have to change the sandbox “gain exp from all sorts of things” to a more linear “do missions to get levels”

While I agree breeding could have been changed further…it’s also a key system to ark 1. As the only real endgame activity, it provides people with a sense of scaling endgame progression. Changing it like they did (IE changing mutations to provide linear rather than exponential scaling) is great, but it’s not changing the core of breeding or its purpose. All of that is ok - but it’s not what I’m hungry for 😅

[vital jetty]

I mean metal on the first day is essential. otherwise it's 1 c4 to get into your base, not bringing into account the dinos that can hurt stone, and with no MS pumping, note runs are going to be significantly harder to do until you get at minimum a PT and a saddle.

[pine basin]

Changing map features wouldn’t change the core of the game. I mean, they already changed some features that change the game more than implementing missions on all maps or changing some breeding features. Things like no cryos, cave balances and locking the movement speed skill are more important to the core of the game, and still keep ark’s essence.

My whole point is they seemed to be willing to move ASA further

Not just new content, but fundamental improvements

[vital jetty]

#PlzKeepItNoCryosEvenAfterExtWC ❤️

OR

Only cryos on Ext 😛

[sly token]

wait whats wrong with cryos?

i dont know much

[vital jetty]

They made the game too easy.

[pine basin]

They are broken AF

[vital jetty]

Raiding used to actually be a commitment.

[prisma acorn]

make cryos cost 5 element or some shiz

[vital jetty]

No. No cryos

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 will be for that great experience, but it will be nice to experience ASA for a little while without cryopods.

[vital jetty]

Still hope they see no cryos is better for the game, regardless of "QoL" they provide.

[pine basin]

Yeah, I remember the day I had to hide the Dinos I transferred to the other server we were attacking, waiting for the transfer time

Now you just cryo everything in and out

[vital jetty]

Ye. I'd even be fine with a Transfer Time change to "make up" for it.

[prisma acorn]

yeah but you can take people tames

that are in cryos

[vital jetty]

That isn't a reason to keep them in game lol

You could also raid and get eggs.

And once we get to maewing again, you can steal babies

Cryos aren't a necessity by any means.

[grim kestrel]

The split in preferences among the community on cryos is partially why they are doing ASA as well as to help fund Ark 2.

ASA is for an original Ark experience that everyone knows now.

Ark 2 will be a brand new experience with a primitive atmosphere.

[vital jetty]

By that logic Cryos would be available Day 1, and not when Ext comes out. So they're clearly open to changing SOME things.

[pine basin]

It doesn’t mean they aren’t open to changes within their vision for ASA

[split dove]

and in ASA everyone will have all the Ark: SE DLC's, not like currently where some people only have basegame and free maps to play if they don't have money to buy them seperatly

[vital jetty]

At least from a PvP standpoint, Cryos are worse for the game in almost every aspect.

[pine basin]

I mean, if they were just making an ASE with updated engine, they wouldn’t need to release it in early access

[grim kestrel]

Not really, they are rolling everything out map by map because of it being on UE5.

[prisma acorn]

inb4 unofficial pvp everyone just uses adjusted dino storage to act the same as cryos

[vital jetty]

Yes really. Cryos became a "core" mechanic the moment they were introduced.

[pine basin]

That doesn’t make much sense, they could release cryos day one if they wanted

Im sure they want to test it like that

[vital jetty]

If they weren't open to changes like you suggest ,they wouldn't have done away with no MS pumping either. Or balanced cave entrances. So they ARE changing SOME things

[prisma acorn]

theres alot of stuff they could release day one and they wont lol, theyre doing it map by map like before

[vital jetty]

and I hope one of those is no cryos

[grim kestrel]

And it not guarantee cryos will wait till extinction, if devs see result among players where it seems they need to release cryos sooner they have said that is a possibility.

It only currently planned to release with a natural timeline

[pine basin]

They are testing stuff. Saying it will be a map by map implementation is a way to calm people down

I still hope they will keep cryos out 😂

[vital jetty]

Also hope they do away with netguns or severely nerf them whenever they come around. I absolutely hate the netgun meta lol

[pine basin]

They have some months to test it and get the feedback

[serene onyx]

Dont get caught by them 👀

[vital jetty]

?

Yeah let me dodge those netguns on super slow dinos

[serene onyx]

Why are you confused

[serene onyx]

Pretty easy to dodges

[vital jetty]

Yeah you're a troll lmao. Or not a PvPer.

[serene onyx]

Dont move in a straight line 💀

[vital jetty]

You're right. I always forget that slow moving dinos that are meta for tanking/PvP who can be netted can ALL do barrel roles and can turn super fast to dodge things.

[serene onyx]

Dont be mad bro

[vital jetty]

I'm just laughing at your awful take 😉

[serene onyx]

Net guns are fine where they are 🥰

[vital jetty]

The majority of the PvP community disagrees with you, but it's okay for you to have the wrong opinion.

[serene onyx]

Eh net guns are amazing and should be here for ever

[grim kestrel]

Technically if something is an opinion it can not be right or wrong, hence why it would be called an opinion.

[vital jetty]

Come on, you can troll better than this. This is just sad 😮

[serene onyx]

Sad how mad you are getting

Over a net gun

[prisma acorn]

It really is just a don't get hit moment

[vital jetty]

No madness at all. idk why people think them getting called out for a bad take is somehow being mad lol

[serene onyx]

Also if your dino gets netted just hop off and break it with your hatchet

Or do ground pvp

[vital jetty]

Well aware. But you can also call it wrong when the vast majority of players disagree strongly with the take.

[serene onyx]

Nope an opinion cant be wrong nor right, just like he said

[prisma acorn]

bros always speaking for +51% of the playerbase

[serene onyx]

Fr

[grim kestrel]

Honestly I am reading half a conversation, the person you're going back and fourth with I have blocked which suggest to me they are trolling. Honestly probably just ignore them.

[vital jetty]

Already did. I know a troll when I see one lol

[serene onyx]

Blud blocked me for no reason 💀

[prisma acorn]

we out here talking bout netguns and cryos and no ones even mentioned the rhynio

the flying battleship that can pick a rex

[grim kestrel]

I would of compared that to a Chinook helicopter customized with weapons

[prisma acorn]

you could get to its saddle day one if you found a alpha rex or two and did the note run before killing it

if you were extremely efficient and hit the like 13 notes and killed alphas its not unreasonable to get 80+

[grim kestrel]

I wonder if using the command to get all notes in single player will give you all the skins for official/unofficial like in ASE when ASA goes live.

[prisma acorn]

I wouldnt see why not because its a achievement based system, unless they change it to a server based system

and you need to do it per server

[grim kestrel]

When I did that in SP it gave all of the skins to my default item in every server

[calm meteor]

I think the best way to solve the cryo/netgun problem ist to make different server with different ways of playing and the possibility to choose engrams that can't be learned in singleplayer/multiplayer

[prisma acorn]

you can do that currently, you can just disable engrams

everyone still uses them tho

In singleplayer you can do it in the menu but in multiplayer you have to go into the ini and do like disableblueprint/extinction/yaddayadda/somethinganother/32

[vital jetty]

Because the complaints about Rhynio have been stated already quite a few times. At least by me lol

[prisma acorn]

its likely the netgun wont be in the game because its a gen 2 item

the harpoon will be

but the nets are gen 2

[vital jetty]

I figured it won't be a thing until Gen 2, I just still don't like it.

[potent hull]

there is 3 way to put a game on steam coming soon or ea or full release and pre purchase

[misty scroll]

ok tell me pls how

[misty scroll]

how to pre purchase still is not on steam . how to ea game still not in steam .

can you send me

pls

[split dove]

there won't be any pre purchases for Ark Ascended, you just simply buy it the day when it releases

and there is no steampage yet as it will be added shortly before release at the end of the month (unless something horrible happens, it's still on track atm)

[plain zealot]

Has anything like this ever happened before? This is the first time I've come across it.

[split dove]

elaborate

[plain zealot]

The lack of a Steam page even though the game is due out in a month.

[winged dome]

Not uncommon

[plain zealot]

Yeah. Very suspicious for a company like Wildcard.

[winged dome]

Not really.
Scorched dropped with very little hype aside teasers

Release politics aside

[plain zealot]

Is that so? Well, that's good. I can't wait for the game. I've even upgraded my PC in preparation for playing it all day and night.

[marsh osprey]

will ark2 be in a bundle and how much will it cost?

[prisma acorn]

it will not

[split dove]

no, Ark 2 won't be in a bundle and we don't know how much it will cost

[prisma acorn]

the bundle was changed, its not in the asa package anymore

[split dove]

probably less than a full normal game seeing as it's gonna be a early access title

[marsh osprey]

it makes sense to put it in a bundle with asa

[prisma acorn]

ASA will be $39.99 USD on release and with how game pricing is ARK 2 will be around $60 to $70 USD

[grim kestrel]

That was the original plan, but due to how development ended up they ditched it

[marsh osprey]

ark2 expencive ngl

[split dove]

don't think Ark 2 is gonna cost that much, pretty sure early access games are forced to cost less so maybe $40 like Ark 1 was at launch during EA iirc

[grim kestrel]

Eh only for those without Gamepass for Windows and Xbox as Ark 2 will launch on game pass

[winged dome]

Not having a price determined yet is expensive? 🤔

[marsh osprey]

ye

[winged dome]

Whatever helps you budget, I guess 🤷

[pine basin]

I don’t think Steam limits the prices of early access games, but it would be odd to charge 70 usd for an EA game

[split dove]

they might price it $40 like they did Ark:SE when it launched

[pine basin]

I think ASE was 30Usd

[split dove]

was 40 at launch (45 technically but was launch discounted to 40) so ASA price is just a redo but with all DLC added alongside

[pine basin]

Just checked, I got ASE day one for 24.99

It wasn’t 40 that’s for sure

[prisma acorn]

i think he means at launch

[pine basin]

But yeah, I think asa should cost more because of the DLCs

[pine basin]

Launch launch? It was 60 at the real launch day

For The EA lauch it was 24.99

[split dove]

early access launch

[pine basin]

For the first days

I got it day one

Then they raised to 30 usd

29.99 actually

[prisma acorn]

i thought the launch was 60 but they discounted it to 40 for a week

and said something like "sorry theyre making us, teehee"

[pine basin]

You can check the price history at SteamDB

July 5 2017 they raised the price to 60usd

I don’t remember the exact day they officially released it, but I think it was around that date

Also I checked the prices back in June 2015 and was released with a discounted price (17%) hence why I paid 24.89, then they removed the discount and the price raises to 29.99

That said, of course I wouldn’t expect Ark 2 would cost 25 USD, because inflation yada yada

40 usd is more in line with current prices

[marsh osprey]

40 seems alight for ark 2

yo is i coming out next year

[pine basin]

Hopefully

End of the year

[marsh osprey]

i hope its the end of the year

[prisma acorn]

is ark dot wiki dot gg the new ark wiki because the old one doesnt have any of the new dossiers

[split dove]

it is

[pine basin]

Yes

[fallow niche]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki is the correct wiki and is whitelisted.

[pine basin]

It’s the official wiki

[prisma acorn]

ark dot fandom dead

okay

[pine basin]

For a while now

[prisma acorn]

yeah i just dont fuck round with new dinos to often so i havent noticed

[tropic crag]

Yeah, some trolls have defaced that wiki, saying that like the acro was added to Fjordur and shit, really unfortunate

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Dossiers is what you want

[fleet shuttle]

Cant believe they finally announced the launch date on twitch

About time

[winged dome]

I can't believe you don't have a source for that

Oh wait I can

[urban tiger]

what the date ?

[tropic forge]

if he said twitter maybe he could foul some but on twitch 🤣

[urban tiger]

my gut say delay unless they do their job and releash end of october but not likely

[tropic crag]

They aren't going to delay it, I can guarantee you that

[urban tiger]

where the guarantee?

it between 17 to 21 days away if they on track if

if not and it delay it might be a hot dream for awhile

[tropic crag]

The guarantee is the debt they'd be in if they don't, pretty obvious tbh

[blissful perch]

I guess the real question is who cares?

If you’re not out here trying to get constantly disconnected and crashed out day 1 on official, the actual launch day has zero importance to you

[tropic crag]

With ya there, I just don't want WC to feel obligated to delay it to release it in a more functional state, rather they don't have to pay off Shitrado and can keep doing what they're doing

Everyone will play it regardless of if it launches this month broken and buggy or next year with a little more function to it

[blissful perch]

Well you know I won’t be buying day 1 😅, but yea I agree the fanatics will buy it regardless of it coming out October 15, 31 or in November

My love of ark is more…idk. Concept based?

There’s no other group I’d trust to do a survival dinosaur taming game like WC does it. I just want to see the series advanced and the (imo kinda big) flaws addressed more substantially

[split dove]

only hope for that atm is Ark 2

[blissful perch]

Oh for sure

[grim kestrel]

This is why I will be buying it day 1 just to help fund Ark 2 as I am looking forward to that.

[blissful perch]

Fair and valid tbh

[split dove]

same reason here, mainly to help fund the distant and welcome changes in Ark 2 and to have something to play while the months keep flying past for the next year

[blissful perch]

Tbh tho ASA Ab will prolly make my cry and then I’ll fold like a lawn chair and open my wallet

[split dove]

''that'll be 3 hours worth of my work good sir''

[grim kestrel]

Ark is one of the rare games I have ever put 1000+ hours in on one title. When a company manages that well I have to admit I will give the next one a go.

[blissful perch]

1000 hours

[grim kestrel]

1400 to be more accurate, I got into later

[blissful perch]

I think my most played is 7,000 in NS2 but now I gotta check. 1000 isn’t a slouch

[grim kestrel]

Rockstar is untouched in playtime for me, 4,490 hours just in GTA Online and about 7.5k counting single player,

So that where 1400 I did get in Ark was pretty good

[blissful perch]

I wish I enjoyed GTA. But it’s just too open for me to have fun

Also I don’t care for cars, so that’s probably not helping lmao

[lapis silo]

Are we going to be able to buy ASA on steam? I'm surprised and wondering why there is no page set up for it. Makes me wary and wondering if even the marketing department has no idea of its release. If I could wish list it at least I would have something to keep me engaged!

[verbal wind]

it's releasing on steam so you'll be able to buy it there

[lapis silo]

There's no page though. It makes me cautious. Can add many other unreleased titles to wishlist.

[blissful perch]

Gonna direct you here @lapis silo

[pine basin]

Did you see Snail Games won their case against Angela Games? The details of the settlement weren’t disclosed, but they will certainly get some cash flow. It can help Ark.

[blissful perch]

It’s a little bit abnormal for a larger studio to do this, but it’s hardly a danger sign

It’s well within the norm, and the important part is that WC confirmed a steam release

[tropic crag]

No, because I don't follow anything having to with them tbh

[pine basin]

I mean, you are being clever to wait and see, but I’m buying day one and I don’t consider myself a fanatic

[tropic crag]

But that sounds cool, I guess

[pine basin]

I just think ASE was money well spent back then, and I believe Asa has potential

[blissful perch]

Yes but my point is that day one buyers really have no reason to care (beyond patience ofc) if an undisclosed release date is October 27 or 29

[lapis silo]

May not be a danger sign but I think it's strange! Ido care! Can't afford a page? I bought ark in early release first time. Be nice to have a page on steam to at least look at!

[tropic crag]

Also buying day one, and I do consider myself a fanatic (Ark is one of the best games I've ever played)

[lapis silo]

I'll buy day one also. Just wonder if it will cause server issues so many all at once.

[blissful perch]

If you’re going on official for anything but the most sweaty of intentions…don’t fool with day 1

[pine basin]

ASE is by far the game I have put more hours in by far. Like 40 times more than the second.

[upper tangle]

Steam early access program there’s a a rule or something that the page has to be up at least 2 weeks before a early access release

[lapis silo]

Well any day then in theory!

[blissful perch]

That’s fair, just saying it’s not a big deal, and that the page wouldn’t likely say much anyway if they didn’t want to post it at this point. You’d likely have more questions than answers tbh with the minimal stuff they’d post

[pine basin]

I don’t think so, I checked their partner rules and couldn’t find such rule

I think you need to publish a page 2 weeks prior if you intend to release the page as coming soon

If you have a date or just want to open the page on the release day, I think you can open the page whenever you want

[tropic crag]

It's up there for me, but maybe not the top, idk I'd have to check honestly

[blissful perch]

I know I’ve seen games do day of steam page releases, but idk if I’ve ever seen one do that in early access

[pine basin]

I wouldn’t recall. But I couldn’t find any rules about that. What I found is something about game pages published with the “coming soon” tag

[blissful perch]

I’d believe it either way tbh. It also…doesn’t really matter to me for the reasons I’ve stated already beyond my general curiosity on releasing a game on steam

[lapis silo]

Any way. Just saying. It would be nice!

[blissful perch]

Oh it would be, for sure

I think we’d all love a gameplay trailer and a steam page…but imo it’s not a huge deal to also get the big surprise all at once 😛

[tropic forge]

gotta run for the favorite bsae spot

[winged dome]

We already know what the gameplay is, I just want a feature showcase of the new stuff/comparison to the old

[tropic forge]

i want to see the dinos, how the server handles but thats tricky and wanted to know if some rules change or not which wont happen

[south lance]

we saw a mod dino tbf

chances are whatevers in game will have the same sorta lighting and a lot of the same textures

[winged dome]

What do you mean rules change?

[tropic forge]

pve stuff

but dosent matter it wont happen dollie already said there wont be another FaQ

[winged dome]

I don't think really much will be changing aside from no speed leveling on Officials (for now) and no Cryos until Extinction

[tropic forge]

dont count cryos being out until extinction, its not confirm, its subject to change

[tropic crag]

Unless they get enough good feedback on stuff and decide to change it, but yeah currently I don't see any other huge changes happening tbh

[winged dome]

The way I read it and the chats, Cryos and other items are pretty hard set not to release until their associated DLCs release. Only speed leveling was a 'lets see how it turns out' deal

[tropic forge]

hold on someone share early access 2 week info, who said dint find it

[tropic forge]

Early Access (Site: Steam Works Documentation)
If your title is marked as Early Access (See Early Access Documentation), then the controls to release your game will say "Release as Early Access". Click that button to proceed and view release details before confirming.

Selecting "Publish Now" from the subsequent options will kick off your release as an Early Access product. Please note that you will still need to have a Coming Soon page up for at least two weeks before your product will be playable on Steam. To learn more about visibility at launch, please see Visibility on Steam.

So if we are going to see the game in Oct 2023 then latest this can happen is Oct 18th? I hope we are not relying on last min launches, it never worked in the past

[tropic forge]

dollie — 09/30/2023 3:52 AM
regarding movespeed/cryos etc etc

ig just keep in mind, we are trying stuff, we'll be monitoring, and we expect to make adjustments, lots all over is changing a lil

try not to be too dramatic (i get it but it's gonna be okay). remember it's early access and we'll be listening to the community and adjusting as we assess all of the moving parts and feedback

[south lance]

i hope we see no cryos at least until abb and a few months into transfers

i wanna see the game actually work similarly to today before they decide no cryos or no whatever is a failure

[grim kestrel]

The introduction of transfers is where I expect to see people start really blowing up the discord for cryos lol

[south lance]

idk

[tropic crag]

Most likely yeah

[south lance]

the only thing in regards to cryos that i see a lot of consensus on is replacing them with stables

idk if a lot of people want them on release, or even after transfers

havent seen much about it

[lapis silo]

Brilliant! So the by the 18th we should know if there is going to be release issues for the 31st.... in theory!

[winged dome]

I think Stables is more of an Ark2 want than ASA. Ark1 already has Cryos pretty hard established, so it's unlikely they're going away completely in favor of a different method

[south lance]

you could easily replace cryos tho

just, add a radius between cryos and cryo fridge

[winged dome]

I totally agree, but doubt it'll be implemented on ASA

[tropic crag]

It may, again depending on feedback

[south lance]

if enough people ask, its a pretty easy w by saving design time

i think thats the point of creature votes

offload design time and prevent players getting angry at the devs by literally giving what a large portion wanted

[winged dome]

Wouldn't count on it, but would be nice to see. It's already a thing in one of the top used mods, Dino Storage 2 so it's 100% possible

[south lance]

they need to hard implemenr some qol mods

[prisma acorn]

By the 17th i think

[true fox]

The 31st could just as easily be the early access date she is referring to

[prisma acorn]

2 weeks from the 18th is the 1st

[lapis silo]

17th then... 5 days for my time zone.

[calm meteor]

First we get a new cc in less then 24 hours

[untold ingot]

Check global. Dollie just announced that everything is still on track for the October release

[calm meteor]

When you think global then in some countries it could release on 1st of November or 30th of october for some countries. Because at the moment it's late wednesday in america and near midday thursday in australia

[tropic forge]

you should have said general 😉

[untold ingot]

Ah, I just woke up though

[calm meteor]

🤣 but it's fun to know that the release in every countrie would be on diffrent days and daytimes

And sorry if i sometimes missunderstand things. English is just my second language. So I try my best to translate as good as possible without copying every text to a translator.

[tropic crag]

Understandable

[potent hull]

fox you her

got a video for your mind

soming to think a bout not news but somthing to keep in mind

[south lance]

that felt poetic and i dont know why

[potent hull]

you want to see the video somthing to keep in mind

[south lance]

yeah

my mind is empty atm

[potent hull]

can sand it to you

[potent hull]

cant sand it to you at all

[south lance]

why

[potent hull]

it will not let me i try your sid not leting it

[south lance]

in this server or in my dm

[potent hull]

dm

[south lance]

fuck

[potent hull]

cant post video her

[south lance]

you can post it but you have to make sure its not sent as the normal link, cause links technically arent allowed

just add a space somewhere and i can copy paste and fix it then search with it

[potent hull]

no no yous

[south lance]

try dming me again

i allowed server dms, dunno why i turned it off

[jagged zodiac]

[untold ingot]

Jat confirmed breeding in ark2 in general

[mint swan]

if theres no breed, what we could do in Dino game, their choice in make an game been played and last for years or hrs and refounded 🙃

[tropic crag]

As if breeding wasn't already confirmed

[gentle kiln]

What are all the new structures

[fallow niche]

All the screenshots that we've gotten from the community crunches are in here in the ASA tab
https://playark.com/

[south lance]

fight stuff

[untold ingot]

I mean, they hadnt really said anything official on it

[blissful perch]

Thanks for the note - time to dig into general

Alright, nothing surprising so that’s good

Nice to hear a soft confirm on the October ASA and that breeding is in ark 2 though. It helps grease the communication channels

I’d find it funny if people took my critique of ASE breeding to mean that ark 2 didn’t have any 😅. Even I don’t want that

[prisma acorn]

5 days remaining on a steam page!

so close

[tropic forge]

why not tomorrow?

[prisma acorn]

after 5 days it wont release till november

steam requires you to have a coming soon page for two weeks, minimum, for a game set to release for early access

on the 18th is too late for a october release, so the 17th is the last possible day for the page to be up

which they might do at this point lol

[prisma acorn]

although if they want a 27th release date it'll have to be up tomorrow

so im more hoping tomorrow so i can game all weekend

[prisma acorn]

I assume with ASA so close to launch, the regular general chat and ark chat are the ASA chat now

[winged dome]

Devs said they won't make separate channels or Discord, so basically yeah

[desert swallow]

I'm sure with the amount of money ark made steam they would make an exception to this if push came to shove.

[grim kestrel]

If I recall I believe I saw in #ark-survival-ascended chat where they may just change that to ASA or something like that with that channel

[prisma acorn]

mmm okay

[grim kestrel]

Since it essentially the same thing it makes sense being it just on upgraded engine and a remastered version of ASE.

[pine basin]

Apparently the paid DLC is also postponed.

[prisma acorn]

they havent even announced when it was gonna come out right

all theyve said was SE Rag and Center

or was it SE Rag and Abb

[split dove]

We plan to release a new canonical-story expansion pack for ARK: Survival Ascended that will be available in Q4 2023. This DLC will feature four new creatures, which we’ll share more details about later this year!

[pine basin]

Someone asked: “will there still be a extra paid dlc with 4 new creatures or was that scrapped?”

And Dollie answered: “no, not scrapped, it's a while off though and I'm reluctant to talk on it this soon”

[pine basin]

It was supposed to come Q4 2023

But it was before the other postponements. In the last updates they simply stopped talking about it. But apparently it’s postponed

[prisma acorn]

i mean, i wouldnt say its delayed yet, thats a full year away

and we got so much coming from here to then

[pine basin]

What? We are in Q4 2023

[split dove]

we're in Q4 now

[pine basin]

Oh yeah you’re right, I’m still in September 😂😂😂

[prisma acorn]

oh i thought you said 2024

[grim kestrel]

In ark channel yesterday there was a discussion about what maps were coming when and I just had a thought of how I could see each map releasing after Rag and Abb..

The Center
Extinction
Crystal Isles (I honestly think Extinction could be before or after this one.)
Val
Lost Island
Gen 1 & New DLC
Fjordur
Gen 2 (I think this could be before Fjordur too.)

[pine basin]

I have a hunch they will prioritize the canonical maps, which means after Scorched I guess they will focus on ab and then extinction and so on

[split dove]

pretty sure it's in order of the creature votes, so Center -> Extinction and then afterwards is a guess atm

[grim kestrel]

Based on Rag and Abb both scheduled for Q1 2024 it seems like to me they could do 1 community and 1 canon map each time. It all up in the air right now. That just something I came up with based on how it looks so far

[pine basin]

I think this was before the postponements, no?

[grim kestrel]

No it the current way since Scorched got set in December, Rag and Abb got set in Q1 2024

Rest of them are just "over time in 2024" after Rag and Abb so far

[split dove]

and based on creature votes after abb will be Center and then Extinction

[vital jetty]

That was the old roadmap, of which has been updated since, with no mentions of it. Dollie even said it's a way off in General chat.

[calm meteor]

Can anybody tell me where i can found this with the coming soon page and early access? I tried to read it myself but couldn't found it

[prisma acorn]

what do yall think the new map is gonna be? the gen 2 ship making it to a new planet?

[vital jetty]

Could potentially be Earth, Considering the Ending of Extinction.

[prisma acorn]

i thought the ending of extinction shows the arks failed because abberation lands as well and its poisoned

[pine basin]

It was supposed to come this year, before genesis maps, so I guess it might be a map to fill in the gaps of the lore. Not after gen 2.

[vital jetty]

I took that as implying Rockwell will try to make it not work, not that it actually failed.

Since I believe we hear his laugh before it cuts off.

[split dove]

they asked if it was ever announced when it was gonna come out originally

[vital jetty]

Ah Fair. Missed that part, skim reading through the countless comments lol

[split dove]

no biggie

[pine basin]

I think that’s the best bet for this DLC

[split dove]

that's the scorched earth ascencion cutoff after we land on aberration, extinction one is him mumbling '' i'm coming for you''

[vital jetty]

Same. Gen 2 ship is what goes to Arat I'm assuming, so it could basically be a side story of what happens to earth, Since Ext implies the arks landing to repopulate earth or w/e.

[vital jetty]

I don't hear that, just rewatched. just sounds like base/music implying bad things because of Ab landing lol

Either way it makes sense. Idk how I feel about Rockwell being the bad guy for what, the 4th time? though lol.

[split dove]

insert that one spongebob meme about the old guy

[vital jetty]

Awe can't do the GIF, i tried lmao

[split dove]

send it to me if you want

[vital jetty]

Done

Funny to think about though. AB Boss, Gen 1 & 2 Boss, if we go to earth, he could POTENTIALLY be the major boss again, unless they're just implying that Ab itself is corrupted, so will corrupt the portion it landed in

[winged dome]

Would be kinda interesting to see if he pops up in Ark2, just a regular survivor from the Genesis - maybe see how he'd react to how his Ark version made such a mess of things or if he'd try again with a new obsession

[vital jetty]

I don't think he'd pop up in ark 2, it's implied he passes on. I feel like he wouldn't allow copies of himself either, at least in regards to being on the ship.

[winged dome]

Maybe, just interesting to think about

[prisma acorn]

can we get a mod where element is renamed to edmidium

[vital jetty]

Yeah, I think he'd be obsessed again, since they have said they'regoing with the theme of "Element/tek bad" for ark 2.

[prisma acorn]

in honor of rockwell

[winged dome]

Rockwellium Z

[prisma acorn]

so why cant i just eat element and turn into a omnipotent monster

[winged dome]

Not part Ferox?

[vital jetty]

Doesn't He inject it to become a monster? Assuming he probably toyed with it a bit too, although I guess it could have been pure luquid element

[winged dome]

Always kinda wondered what HLNA would think about survivors using Element Dust in custom recipes
'Aw shit, here we go again...'

[prisma acorn]

in recipes?

naw just let me snort that dust

[vital jetty]

They're implying how you can make food and drink recipes with Element Dust, which should in theory have SOME effect on you, and not for the better lol

[prisma acorn]

i can eat organic polymer

but not element

like, they know

we'd be too strong

[winged dome]

That's how we become

[vital jetty]

Let's be honest, they did it because people would accidentally eat the element and freak tf out and blame them for making such a resource eatable lol

[pine basin]

Nah, people freak out for many other reasons. I’ve seen people eating fertilized eggs and freaking out.

[vital jetty]

People would rage more over element. At least before Ext/gen1/gen2

[pine basin]

Yeah, before ext element was really rare. I remember people replacing gate by gate to the tek ones, because it was really expensive

The tek gates were cool because we didn’t need to worry about open/close them 😂

[verbal wind]

really unless it's pvp there's no reason to even go past stone tier

except for aesthetics

and ark doesn't have much decor options for metal/tek tier anyway so aesthetics aren't much of an option in those tiers

[vital jetty]

Walking on tek floors is better than the sounds for walking on the other floors

[prisma acorn]

that might change with asa

they changed alot of building looks

[grim kestrel]

Maybe in ASA a tek ladder can sound like actual tek instead of wood lol

[vital jetty]

Never bothered with ladders in most base builds tbh. Always used Ramps.

[south lance]

didnt they make it so theres an a confirmation thing if you eat fert eggs tho

[vital jetty]

eventually, not always

[south lance]

rip early gamers

[vital jetty]

I had a lot of friends eating 180 wyv eggs let me tell ya lol

[verbal wind]

i've used stairs in most of my builds. my thought was always 'well, if this were real i'd get real tired of ladders really fast'

[prisma acorn]

I still remember flying to max height and airdropping steggos with quez and wyverns

to raid

[grim kestrel]

Being unofficial PvE player every base I built got bigger and bigger to the point they'd have 4, 5, 6+ floors in them, so some of them ladders were easier to build without wondering if I had enough space to do a stairwell.

[vital jetty]

Demolish walls and expand lol

[verbal wind]

the biggest bases i made were just barely within render range from one side to the other

[grim kestrel]

That what I did as long as it didn't mess with the design to much

I try to always architect some blueprints for what I want to do with a base

[winged dome]

I have a few 'presets' I go with for starting out, then usually demolish once I settle on a spot and try to do something new every time

But all my builds are pretty smallish with attention to detail

[verbal wind]

i like to start out with just my starter base where i want to build, then when i get to wood tier i'll wall off as much as I think I'll need

[winged dome]

Now that I think about it ... I've never actually built a wall around my bases 🤔

[verbal wind]

a wall is one of the first things i want to build just to stop brontos trikes and other dinos from waltzing about over everything

also to make sure nothing attacks my shit

[mint swan]

Do you thinks wyvern or other fantastic creatur is here in ark 2 ?

[vital jetty]

Fantasy creatures of some sort will have to show up, considering it's an "alien" planet with fauna and flora

[split dove]

probably not those exact versions seeing as it's gonna be a primarily primitive game set on a alien planet, and we haven't had any returning/new fantasy additions revealed yet. currently all we got confirmed are the Araneo/Aratai/Ankylosaurus/Brachiosaurus/Carno/Dodo/Sabertooth/Stego/Raptor/Rex/Leaf lizzard. so most likely chance of fantasy creatures will be native to Arat

[vital jetty]

ye that's more so what I meant, given I'm sure the fantasy creatures on Arat will be akin to something fantasy we already have.

[split dove]

i'm all for new stuff to keep it unique compared to the fantasy creatures of Ark 1, i'm also down for native Arat Wildlife versions of some creatures if that ends up being something new wich mimicks what we are familiar with

[thick tulip]

would be cool to create an Arat player character and fight against the invading Humans. i would actually PvP hardcore for that gameplay (disclaimer, i'm Native American 😂 )

[pine basin]

We already know at least two, the Aratai and that lizzard from the first trailer

[pine basin]

I thought about that and indeed it would be amazing 😂

[vital jetty]

Aratai are more so inhabitants than fantasy creatures, although I supose they'd be considered fantasy based in general.

[tame geode]

What if the aratai aren't alien, and are the result of some residual element infection?

insert X-files theme

[pine basin]

I mean, even humans are creatures. The Aratais are intelligent creatures, and also fantasy

[pine basin]

I think some people already raised that theory before, and it would make some sense

[vital jetty]

If being a literalist yes, but it's not what most people mean when referring to fantasy creatures lol

[pine basin]

Yeah, you are right. In that case we have at least one creature confirmed, the lizzard

[vital jetty]

Ye. Can't wait to see more once they're able to fund it again 😮

[winged dome]

*Saladmander

[pine basin]

And the aratai will have their mounts, according to the Steam page, so I guess those will also be fantasy creatures

[vital jetty]

I'm assuming some of the mounts will also be from the ship, aka dinos/animals "we" brought along with us.

[pine basin]

I don’t know, I think wildcard will make them unique to the aratai

[winged dome]

Same

New planet, new opportunities for new wild creatures

[vital jetty]

I'm not saying they won't have new creatures, but rather some of their mounts will be the creatures we brought along. The Ark DInos are designed for being tamed quite easily, and if Aratai saw how the "humans" were doing it, they could easily copy it.

[winged dome]

True, we'll see

What'd be real neat is adaptive AI, Aratai don't tame Earth creatures until they witness Survivors use them against the Aratai first

[vital jetty]

I'm curious how they'll tie in respawning dinos/resources to the lore, since Ark lore explains it quite well.

but that doesn't really work if not on one of the arks 😮

well, for the creatures we bring along I suppose it makes sense, but it won't for theirs.

[winged dome]

They'd presumably already know how to deal with their own creatures.

Oh man, maybe we have to watch Aratai tame some of their native creatures to learn how to tame them ourselves

That'd be really neat

Use Stealth mechanics, then observe the taming method

[verbal wind]

it would be cool to see something like attacking a place, then you come back later and you see they've put new defenses in that area you hit last time

[vital jetty]

so long as the mechanics don't give the awful mental images of taming a Gigantopithecus lmao

[verbal wind]

make use of probing attacks to try and manipulate how their defenses are

[untold ingot]

That would be epic, but very hard to code lol

[split dove]

Another factor is for business reasons. Developing a next-generation sequel while no longer releasing paid expansion packs has proven difficult for our Studio’s long-term survival, so we need to continue generating revenue while we develop ARK 2.

[vital jetty]

Multiple game studios take years to release between games and don't need to force a midpoint game to continue with the revenue. Mind you I'm not blaming WC in this situation at all 😮

[winged dome]

The market is pretty well cornered on Survival Crafting with Mounts genre. Might as well cash on it

[untold ingot]

It's a remaster, not an entirely new concept

[potent hull]

​ARK Survival: Evolved is now a traning camp for people to help them play in ASA

[vagrant thicket]

I got a good dino drawing that I wanna share with the developers

[untold ingot]

Put it in fanart, or the next creature vote

[calm meteor]

Today we get a new cc. And 18 days until october ends. Is it even possible that it will be released everywhere in October? I mean because of the diffrent timezones

And if not which time zone is indicative?

[pine basin]

Their timezone is Pacific Time because their main office is in Seattle, WA

Also, their releases are always global. Steam will liberate the game to everybody at the same time.

[worthy kindle]

ASA is different than ark 2 correct?

[placid jolt]

yes

[worthy kindle]

Okay. Was reading how steam requires a game preview with " coming soon" to be up 14 days prior to sales, so by Tuesday there will have to be an ASA page if they want to make Oct 31, unless they somehow loophole and sell it as DLC on the ASE page

[calm meteor]

Yes i know. But i think some countries will have already November when they only release on October 31st

[worthy kindle]

They're going for oct 31 for legal reasons so one would assume if it was down to the wire.... time would be based upon where the case was held and decided.

Eg: rent isnt late on monday because it's already tuesday in australia 😜

[calm meteor]

Where do you all found it?

[worthy kindle]

There's a youtube vid covering everything google search asa

Ltbuzzlitebeer is author

[calm meteor]

So is it right that from now on every day without a coming soon page gives us a hint when ASA don't release?

[pine basin]

So? If it’s November in Australia when it releases, it doesn’t matter. People need to take the Pacific Time into account when they give us dates.

[pale grove]

Also remember if they plan to release on consoles at the same time it has to go thru there qa before the consoles will allow its release and Sony has been known to take over a week or more before they approve something

[tropic crag]

Sony Moment™️

[split dove]

moment ™️

[prisma acorn]

maybe the dlc thats coming out is abberation

before it was ruined

[agile tusk]

⌛

[split dove]

i don't think that's gonna be it, i think it might be something between Extinction and Genesis 1 to bridge that gap. it would also kinda be a waste of potential if they were to do just ''aberration before it was fully aberration'' instead of something totally new imo

[tribal chasm]

It would be cheese if they did a true 1.5, and had the 'new' xpac after Genesis 2 events, between Genesis 2 and the Ark 2 story.
Edit: imagine typing a sentence so badly you have to edit it 6x

[prisma acorn]

i was just watching the youtube video where the guy gives the entire lore (im at work now so i cant find it atm), but he talks about how abb was vibrant and had a vast world above before the tek tribe blew up the overseer tower and took refuge in the caves. so out there in the arks is a abberation where theres a flourishing above ground world

the reason you go to the corrupt one is because rockwell forces you there

[tropic forge]

neddythenoodle?

[prisma acorn]

uhhh let me try to check

[tropic forge]

i just open my yt and theres a video of him there from 1d

[prisma acorn]

The Full Story of ARK - Before You Play ASCENDED - YouTube

yeah its neddy

i had to pause right before the abb -> gen 1 of the survivor

because work

[tropic forge]

gotta focus on work 🤣

[blissful perch]

While a cool idea, the map is small and the amount of new stuff would imo be…limited by that. Since the ark pre and post tek bomb is likely the same size

[tropic forge]

think its the same size as the island, if the surface is the same as the map when a surviver opens to see its location

[pine basin]

Yeah, the “healing Earth” post extinction would be awesome. Like other humans trying to repopulate earth while the other survivors are preparing to the genesis mission.

[south lance]

corruption/normal hybrids

[blissful perch]

The “map” your character opens is based on a relative size. The actual area (XY dimensions) of Ab is the smallest of any map. Every “map” you open however is the same size regardless of the real map size (for example genesis 2 and Ab both fit into the same square map you see when you hit M)

[winged dome]

Ab got that thicc Z tho

[blissful perch]

True, but idk if the surface being playable area in an “Ab but not tek bombed” map would add much Z

[winged dome]

I imagine Ab pre-nukes to be akin to Valguero

[blissful perch]

Does it resemble that map in size tho? It seems like the ark is simply smaller than others

[ripe cedar]

I think ab pre bomb is too much of a normal ark and wouldnt have the same innovation provided by all of the other wildcard dlc

[winged dome]

But what is a 'normal' Ark? We've only seen two and they are wildly different (Island and Scorched, Ab is obviously an exception)

Is the Island an exception for containing so many micro-biomes? Are other Arks more like Scorched with one overall biome with small variations (all desert, but has oasises, dunes, badlands, mountains, ect)

Do other normal Ark's have fantastical creatures from mythology like Wyverns and Golems, or more realistic prehistoric creatures? Or maybe just modern creatures? No dinos at all?

Interesting to think about, imo

[prisma acorn]

i believe the wyverns and golems were made to keep the survivors from reaching a certain level of tech and society so maybe if other arks had made it to a point where the people were getting too evolved too fast they also have mythical creatures

and the death worms were made to prevent people from building in the sand again

because before it was too safe to live on the ark edge

like SE was at peace and everyone was working together, but on the original island they were still waring till the end

[tropic forge]

you dint get it and i dont know how to explain

[true fox]

Pods and fridges came out before the whole tek explosion, no?

Please correct me if I am remembering wrong

[blissful perch]

Technically all the community arks are “real”

[prisma acorn]

they came out when extinction came out which is when we got meks and tek dinos

[true fox]

There ya go.

I bet they slip pods and fridges out before they release that.

But there's no rush.

[prisma acorn]

currently theyre waiting

[true fox]

will be interesting to see people manage The Island without them

[prisma acorn]

map by map

[true fox]

Yeah, we'll see how long they can stick with that.

[prisma acorn]

so we might get them in 2nd quarter

of 2024

[true fox]

Who knows

as long as they deliver it faster than a 3d printer I've been waiting for since 2021 🙂

[prisma acorn]

they arent sending you the 3d printer i hate to say

its been 2 years

[true fox]

They are. Just took a long time to develop

Its a real company, not a kickstarter thing

Still no ASA preorder on steam 😦

[grim kestrel]

Because they're not doing pre-orders

[winged dome]

Say that in #lore-nerdz 😂

[blissful perch]

Done

[winged dome]

'Nuh-uh! Not canon!!!' 🤓

[blissful perch]

Discord crashed before I could post it lmfao. It can’t stop my bad decisions tho

[winged dome]

I mean, I have no issues believing the possibility because at the end of the day there's hundreds if not thousands of Ark's we've never seen before

[prisma acorn]

yeah wheres my ocean world ark where there are very small island and its all water

[true fox]

or early release or whatever its called

[prisma acorn]

like gen 1

[true fox]

gen1 in a few quarters

[prisma acorn]

yeah but i want a entire map, the issue is, there arent enough ocean dinos

[winged dome]

Unfortunately there's already a fair amount of overlap with the current water critters. What more could be added that's unique/fills a needed role for ASA? Ark2 they could go nuts - and hopefully trim the roster a bit to make way for xenofauna

[prisma acorn]

more dinos that resist shocks

[winged dome]

I'd go for that

[prisma acorn]

that hermit crab that was in the center vote

the tiny islands could have shadowmane and maewing

creatures like that

rocky areas with pteradons since they eat fish

[blissful perch]

Hey I’m all for an ark 2 ocean DLC

(See name)

[split dove]

''insert our handshake meme''

[winged dome]

One idea I had was a defensive Giant Moray Eel, okish while ridden but has an option to be converted into a placeable bunker...thing. Lashes out at threats and inflicts a nasty bleed

Basically to remove the need to build a pen to keep water tames safe since sharks aggro from across the ocean

[prisma acorn]

we could use more starter water tames too

other then the dolphin

[verbal wind]

hammerhead shark. ride without saddle, tame by killing trilobites and dragging them near, they have a selectable sensor to look for resources or animals nearby

[prisma acorn]

something could eat the trilobites and turn them into paste

we could even have a artic region of the ocean for penguins for polymer

and a volcanic region for sulfer

[blissful perch]

But these are just tames and level design

If you want a big ark DLC, it’s gotta add new mechanics

[prisma acorn]

well currently the only way to build a base underwater is moonwells or caves yeah?

[blissful perch]

There are already great community maps that do as you describe

[prisma acorn]

add a prim version of moonwells

could have a upkeep system or a pump/fuel system

[blissful perch]

Moonpools?

[prisma acorn]

the tek compartments

Vacuum Compartment Moonpool

and Vacuum Compartment

[true fox]

it will be fun to do some of the things that are tricky like getting all the artifacts, without the hacks available from other maps

[blissful perch]

Imo I see this as a major move for ark 2, since ark 1 aquatics and aquatic combat are pure pain

Because yes, you can add primitive variations of the tek moonpool. Yes you can add creatures. But even with a new mechanic, say…tides, I’m not sure how much of the script is being changed

For ark 2 though? Aquatic souls combat, aquatic events, resources, components, etc presents a massive window of opportunity

[prisma acorn]

whirlpools?

like a weather event

[verbal wind]

if the ocean area on the island could be like... twice as big, that'd be great

[blissful perch]

But why?

Huge ark oceans are empty and kinda boring

[verbal wind]

the center had a great ocean

[true fox]

Where are you going to keep 99% of the mobs?? (sharks)

[verbal wind]

and ragnarok's had some nice features

[vital jetty]

Islands Ocean is fine the size it is. The issue is very little to do in said ocean

[verbal wind]

either that or remove all the damn massive rock arches

[blissful perch]

There are some narrow bits I’m not in love with on the eastern side especially…but I agree the bulk of the island’s oceans are not struggling with being small

[vital jetty]

Will be interesting to see how strong some of the pearl caves on it will be if UE5 manages to get rid of the whole Mesh wiping them via squids issue.

[vital jetty]

Oh it's not perfect by any means, but I definitely wouldn't want the ocean larger. I would rather they focus on content for the ocean, before ever considering making it larger.

I may be an ocean lover, but even I can admit that lol

[blissful perch]

Imo ark 2 first DLC is where oceans become great again

[vital jetty]

I would still hope for a basic Ocean that gets revamped in a DLC or future patch tbh. I like controlling the water/going for water type tames early on since most people stay away from the water.

[blissful perch]

I like the concept

But dear LORD the oceans are awful in practice. Getting your model stuck in creatures and the seafloor, stuns galore, hitboxes being largely 2D (IE stuff can sit on top/below you and you can’t hit it cleanly)…it’s no bueno

[vital jetty]

Oh yeah, the swarms are a huge issue. Especially 15000 eels that will get you stuck and you can't hit them at all. Ocean definitely has issues I hope get addressed in ASA and Ark 2.

[blissful perch]

I’m down for difficult, but the current ASE stuff is…not the way I’d do it

It just feels frustrating and miserable to know you’re dead because your model got stuck

[vital jetty]

Yup. The only work around that can be done, and isn't foolproof, is to always have a bunch of unridden water tames on Neutral following.

[blissful perch]

Which you can also get stuck on 😂

[vital jetty]

What's funny is a very small AOE hit around something like the Tuso fixes most of the issues with swarms.

make it dino only AOE

Giga is so strong because of it's massive AOE strike on land that makes 0 se nse, but they give no love to Sea creatures in that regard lol