ark-2

[tropic forge]

well im talking about for officials at least

where ppl log in once per week so they dont loose their bases but dont do nothing else

[gloomy prawn]

Pve was a mess on official random crap everywhere

[tropic forge]

ho yeh, random traps, random spikes and loads of pillars to try to protect or own the server

[gloomy prawn]

Maybe they should have the rust aspect.. that you need to upkeep.
Like on official, but able to turn this off on your own servers or single player.

[tropic forge]

like pay whit resources as maintenance?

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah not like resources are hard to get you know

[tropic forge]

yeh that would have little affect on ppl

[gloomy prawn]

Except people who just build and quit

It again they did add that unsnapped building decay timer

[tropic forge]

unless those resources would be from missions or dungeons, something that wouldt be easy but not too hard to get but little each time as part of the reward

[gloomy prawn]

Just something that would keep the map fresh and not overloaded with abandoned buildings that you can’t build anywhere near

That was a hard part on pve was finding a spot to build that wasn’t blocked by a hidden material somewhere

[tropic forge]

well i could always find places to build, most ppl want flat places to build and i could build anywhere

[gloomy prawn]

Same I didn’t like flat areas I would just use pillars and anything I could wherever I was

[tropic forge]

but like i mention before a resource from a reward from doing missions/dungeons but little enough to make ppl more active to maintained the base would be a good idea

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah, and not a cupboard that you can take over their base lol

Just a maint cabinet

Basically like a trough, but for your base xD

[tropic forge]

and be no transferable otherwise it would make very easy to maintain many bases across other servers which would end up the same

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah and give it the radius circle like the trough. On what it is maintaining so if you are a large clan and building a super base you may need multiple

[tropic forge]

bigger the base the more maintenance would need, that would stop those mega empty bases from happening

[gloomy prawn]

Exactly you want to be apex and control you’re going to need to be active and be up keeping that status

[potent hull]

there one thing i hop ASA has and that is toilet paper in the game lol

[vital jetty]

How would you deal with transfers in general then?

[tropic forge]

toilet paper as more worth than gold 🤣

[tropic forge]

think you miss a part, that was referring to that resource for the maintenance

[vital jetty]

This doesn't do what you want it to do. Rust is a prime example. The "zergs" don't care about upkeep time, because they always have people on to upkeep it. There's many builds that revolve around only around a 3-6 hour timer.

Megas would just hard cap a server at that point instead of being spread out, and they'd never have to worry about the upkeep at that point. Or PvP. 😮

[tropic forge]

well yeh i guess for pvp it had to be different but i was talking about for the pve servers

[cyan grotto]

sorry for the question but when is ASA dropping

[tropic forge]

pretty sure you dont have 3 max out size bases in one empty and being reset when times is near out in pvp, that hole idea was for pve servers to stop that and letting others that wanna play to have a chance to build

[tropic forge]

at first october

[cyan grotto]

I'm so excited, me and my friends love ark

[tropic forge]

you know it will be early access right?

[cyan grotto]

When and how

[desert swallow]

end of october, digitally

[vital jetty]

Damn, I thought it was gonna be October, but IRL. I was getting ready to punch a Rex out

[potent hull]

som were in october i think it will be out be for October event i hop

[harsh spear]

🤮 early access

hire someone to test it before you bring broken exploited stuff into a competitive multiplayer game

wouldnt be suprised if they make a full wipe at some point if there is too many exploits. they also did that with old ark

i dont remember what their reason was though

i think when it went from early access into official release

[half shadow]

Wake me up when September’s over..

[lime forge]

When September ends*

[blissful perch]

You’ve found the issue - ark isn’t meant to be a competitive game by design

[harsh spear]

true

though i still think ark could have pvp but in a different form

[blissful perch]

Ark is a sandbox - a place where there’s a lot of available tools and a world…and players decide what to do in it

They should have taken Minecraft’s approach

[harsh spear]

yea it could have pvp arenas maybe idk

[blissful perch]

Minecraft’s approach was to not offer official PvP whatsoever

But grant people the tools to mod and make their own servers where they can in turn make pvp to their liking

[harsh spear]

well minecraft is a toolbox in general. you just have blocks that you turn into whatever. ark has a set world so its not as free

[blissful perch]

You can make whatever map though in ark

Harder for sure, but players have the ability (and already have) made custom maps to suite a gamemode of their choosing

[tropic forge]

i swear i dont get why ppl think they will make the halloween event this year, even for xmas theres a tiny bit of chance for that to happen

[pine basin]

No one thinks they will for sure have Halloween event this year, people are just hoping for it

[south lance]

^

not everyone's a cynical pessimist

[tropic forge]

its call reality

[south lance]

says every cynical pessimist

cant even say "i hope" without one thinking youre dumb because obviously that phrase means you think its likely

[winged dome]

Not really. Only that there will be Official PvP and PvE servers. Anything beyond is still speculation

[hidden furnace]

there will be cross platform and cross platform modding

[winged dome]

Oh, and apparently Small Tribes confirmed on release

[vital jetty]

Source

[vital jetty]

I almost think EA is designed to please Microsoft for some reason, since Sony is against EA, and it won't be on Playstation because of it lol

[mint swan]

Isn’t it meant to release on all systems at the same time Xbox Ps and pc? If it doesn’t that wouldn’t be good for wc and there whole cross play advertising .it would unfair and then definitely officials will have a server wipes at official release(non ea anymore)

[vital jetty]

It's what they said. But Sony hates EA. I don't even think they've allowed an EA game before (not a sony player so can't confirm). I know the original Ark wasn't allowed on Sony until it was officially out of EA. so.

[burnt heart]

Isn’t rust on console in early access?

[vital jetty]

Rust has been considered full released to my knowledge.

[burnt heart]

Ah. Yea wasn’t sure as I know it’s way behind pc and they still push updates to match it to pc.

[vital jetty]

Googling it I can't find any statements that Sony is fine with EA games either, so idk.

other than "Early Access to CoD DLCs", which isn't actually early access, but getting it before other consoles lol

Although CC368 does mention PS5 release in October along with the rest, so maybe they're making an exception.

[mint swan]

I seen ps had Ea for a game called wayfinder in the past,tbh I never herd the term ea be used the way ark uses it..i always thought Ea was to play a game earlier that’s already officially made for release(no bugs ect) and game preview/beta was to like test things before it comes out

[vital jetty]

Steam pioneered EA to how it's used iirc. Ark wasn't the first game to make use of it. Most use it like Ark did, although most also get their minor influx of money and then abandon their project too lol.

[lavish coral]

Early Access is a funding model mostly used by solo developer or small gaming companies. Rust, Factorio, Don't Starve are great examples. And no, what Wildcard did with EA wasn't what "most" did, AFAIK was the only company to release paid DLCs while in Early access.

[desert swallow]

a quick google search says otherwise

[lavish coral]

Feel free to post examples, I can't remember any(maybe Conan). Just Ark as back in the day the release of SE was a big drama

[tropic forge]

not true, i owned ark on ps4 in early access, not sure the year but was on 6 of december, maybe 2016???

and there was other ea games for sony but very few, sony dosent like ea due to changes on system

[vital jetty]

They released 1 paid DLC in EA, and that's because they lost all of their money in a lawsuit and would have closed shop had they not gotten the influx of money.

way to use a 1 time thing as how they "used" EA lmfao.

[tropic forge]

actually snail already own wc when they release se

[pine basin]

TBF that was fine to me. I don’t really get why a paid dlc while in early access is a real issue for some.

[vital jetty]

Because snail helped with the legal trouble, but would have been in the negative. They wouldn't have continued to fund ark if it didn't show it could make money.

People like talking smack about SE, yet a large portion of the community bought it when they didn't have to, so.

[vital jetty]

And yeah I see that now. I'm assuming it was close enough to done that they accepted it.

[vital jetty]

If it wasn't for the legal issue I wouldn't have been okay with it. I get why they had to after it happened though.

[tropic forge]

well it took almost a full year to official release if not mistake

[pine basin]

I bought the season pass, and it wasn’t expensive. I don’t see this as an issue.

[pine basin]

It isn’t ideal, but I don’t think it’s really problematic

[tropic forge]

ark was on ps4 like 3 months before the release of therizino

[pine basin]

The ideal would be them focusing 100% on finishing the game, but Ark isn’t really linear

It needed constant DLCs and new content

[vital jetty]

It is. The game wasn't close to finished yet. the entire point of buying something in EA is to help fund it so it can get completed. a random DLC in any other given scenario than what happened is bad business practice.

[pine basin]

I doubt wildcard would be able to deliver all of that for free

[pine basin]

I mean, EA is just a name. I was able to play ark day one in 2015.

[vital jetty]

But since their legal troubles, it made sense, as shown by the community buying it regardless of the EA tag.

[pine basin]

Pretty much all games are released buggy and needing relevant changes months after release

Calling it an EA is just a detail

[vital jetty]

No..

[tropic forge]

actually a game in early access is very anti consumer due to all protections the developer as

so aint just a detail

[vital jetty]

Yeah what a terrible take lol

[lavish coral]

Yeah, that's me. And in 2023 i'm here almost ready to give them more money for ASA. Ark is one of the most addicting game ever made, at the same time Snail/WC one of the worst gaming company considered all choices/communications made over the years.

[untold ingot]

Your first statement is true, the second is only partially true. Snail is greedy, but really only as greedy as any other publisher, and wc is actually good. They dont communicate a lot because its actually detrimental to both their company and their mental health dealing with all the toxic dorks that emerge anytime they do say anything

That isnt a wc issue, its an industry issue

[winged dome]

Dollie confirmed it in General yesterday

Derp

Can't post a direct link, but tagged you in General to the post

And apparently it's pinned too

[tribal chasm]

Oh man that's awesome, I had fears of being forced to endure Official megatribe life for months

[vital jetty]

Weird place to confirm it but I'll take it lol

[winged dome]

Dollie gonna dollie

[vital jetty]

Think it depends on rules tbh though. Small Tribes was fun, but having to fight off a mega on smalls was always awful.

[winged dome]

We've gotten a few snippets, like October still being on track for ASA release

[vital jetty]

They've said that for a few releases tbf, only for it to be pushed back (not ASA but other expansions lol)

[untold ingot]

I mean the rules for smalls have always been there, but they havent been enforced

[pine basin]

And I doubt they will or are able to change that for ASA

It would need a large number of moderators online

I like more the idea of limitations things within the game code

Fix holes, fix meshes, fix glitches etc

[untold ingot]

I mean, yes. But there is a thing to say for efficiency

And just actual enforcement

[pine basin]

I mean, we need the rules. But we can’t rely on them to enjoy the game.

I just want some ways to avoid losing everything to people breaking the rules

[untold ingot]

Some of them are pretty vital to have any semblance of fair play. And without fair play no one enjoys the game. Why do you think official is less popular than unofficial

Stuff like meshing, hacking and teaming are pretty vital for smalls to work

[pine basin]

Meshing I think they can fix. The other I fear they can’t.

[untold ingot]

The cant fix hacking and teaming, but they sure can make it harder

[pine basin]

Sure, and I would be more confident if they do it within the game code

The ticket system and moderators… well… I don’t think they will work well

[vital jetty]

Ticket system needs to be way better. I shouldn't have to make a public forum post that damn near asks for my SSN and address lmao

[untold ingot]

They dont work well because they arent effectively employed. Tickets and moderators is THE method for solving problems in the coding world lol

[pine basin]

It works for that. But not to avoid teaming or people abusing any glitches.

By the time they answer to the tickets, everything is finished

I mean, I remember it was more common to see WC GMs enforcing the rules in game. But apparently it didn’t work as intended, because it became very rare.

[blissful perch]

Imo it’s more about risk - early access is a risky time, and if funds/interest aren’t sufficient the project flops. It’s kinda like any high risk entrepreneurial effort

[vital jetty]

Yeah but even steam says you shouldn't be reliant on EA funds to finish the game (general rule of thumb).

Most of them are however lol

[blissful perch]

A big issue with ark is that unlike other games, where a person is offending over multiple segregated rounds (and thus can be removed to improve future outcomes)…it’s very hard to remove someone in ark before they inflict lasting harm on the game world

[blissful perch]

Was gonna say…if everyone followed best financial practice that would be a unicorn world

[blissful perch]

The point here is that short of an instant moderator response, you can’t really resolve the problems created by a moderation deficient environment

[grim kestrel]

Early Access is just a fancy name for a closed beta/alpha just instead of invites it for purchase.

It an option for people who are interested, and if it a process you don't trust there is always another option. Don't buy into early access? Simple.

Just cause it got a risk level of falling through doesn't mean it a bad concept. A lot of life has risk and with much higher stakes.

EA only a financial one. Getting in a vehicle and driving every day to work, travel, whatever carries potential risk to your physical health.

[unreal rock]

@cunning talon. Will transfers be able to work n such

[stray elm]

We don't even know if ARK-2 will have transfers

[grim kestrel]

Best guess is probably not at launch and they may do a form of transfers with second map introduction on Ark 2. But it up in the air

[stoic shadow]

What about key things to in ark 2 storyline, If boss fights will be a thing. What end game may look like. These are key things to the game in question. Instead you all ask about transfer…

Now if one could transfer from ark asa to ark 2 that would be cool. Kind of like pokemon with one way transfer

[winged dome]

We've been speculating those for nearly two years, not much else to wonder until we get more actual info

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 since it primitive, wouldn't make sense to carry over a survivor who familiar with tek to a primitive based game now would it

[stoic shadow]

You do have a point.

I am hoping that ark 2 will have something special to make it stand out from other games.

[winged dome]

Uh, Ark2 is a sequel taking place after the events of Gen2

[untold ingot]

Have you just ignored everything storyline they have talked about?

[split dove]

you would know it's not a prequel if you only watched the gen 2 ending + ark 2 trailer, so you don't even need to look at anything Ark 2 forum specific to know it's a sequel taking place after the events of gen 2

[stray elm]

You can be familiar with how to make something.
Doesn't mean you can if there's no way for you to do so.

[tropic crag]

🤡

[stray elm]

Also, Santiago literally invented 90% of tek-based weaponry for the Terran-Federation.

[stray elm]

You know, the same guy in the ARK-2 trailer that Vin-Diesel is playing as.

[jovial idol]

We know.

[winged dome]

Apparently not all of us

[vital jetty]

No one said it was a bad concept.

[grim kestrel]

Not in so many words this time, but once a week or more Shifter always ragging on Early Access which can sum up an easy conclusion

[vital jetty]

Shifter wasn't ragging on EA. I said most companies go into EA and dip after the influx of money.

Shifter arguably defended it lol

[grim kestrel]

Ah, I see. But yeah most companies do treat it like a closed beta which is mostly what my post was to point out.

[tropic crag]

Yeah, it's generally a good thing with some choice bad examples and can be rather easily exploited (which is why you don't buy the obvious cash grab scam EA games, like some tend to do)

[vital jetty]

I just hope the Orca creator submits the Orca again for Gen 1 / 2 #OrcasInOceanSim #OrcaInSpace

[tropic crag]

Brooooooooooo space orca bullying and eating the astrodelphis and voidwyrms, now I can't unsee it

[blissful perch]

You may the only person who interpreted my remarks that way

[vital jetty]

It's okay. The Orcas In Space on Gen 2 will give an ol' 1-2 combo in your defense for this attack against your honor.

[blissful perch]

Space orcas who exist for the sole purpose of killing space dolphins would be peak design

[vital jetty]

And immune to Shadowmane stuns. And all stuns tbf

If they can suck on puffer fish just for the fun of it and eat Jelly fish I think immune to stuns is fair.

Plz allow for Orca Supremacy my dear Wildcard overlords!

[blissful perch]

Sold. Airborne anti-meta tames

Does 100x damage to gigas, immune to bleed, takes 0 damage from shadowmanes, and one shots racers. But it dies instantly to raptors

[vital jetty]

also dies to like 4 turret shots. Can't have people tryna soak w/ em. gotta make sure they're balanced! 😂

[blissful perch]

True

Wait no. They only take damage from plant X

[winged dome]

Pfft. Turret Mode Dilos

[thick tulip]

with souls-like combos...for reasons

[blissful perch]

Hold your horses. That’s a secret tech we can’t be exposing

[winged dome]

Nah, secret tech is ||[Redacted]||

[inland oak]

today CC late?

[verbal wind]

quite late

but up now

[inland oak]

right ty

[blissful perch]

That CC is big news. Modders are already working on ASA content…and if that deinotherium is anything to say about the model quality we are in for a damn treat when it comes to visuals

[tropic forge]

i notice more the dragon nest spawn

[blissful perch]

there is no dragon nest spawn I'm aware of in the cc - just the image from the mod

[tropic forge]

its on the imagem right below of the select item, wonder if thats from the game or a mod

[blissful perch]

looks like mod - that spawns item may be the spawn zone name

since...idk about you, but I don't know what they may do for spawn regions in ASA (they may make more of them)

[tropic forge]

still thinking if they have dinos ready on UE5 why they not sharing on cc since the beginning of this month, cause if is still going to launch on oct they have more dinos than weeks to show them off

[winged dome]

Because the community pressured the devs to not share anything

[blissful perch]

it's also an incorrect reading

this post was from a modder who was likely asked if they had a "final enough" version to share with the community

this post does NOT indicate WC has a similar level of comfort with their own creatures

[tropic forge]

right i dint even read the text just click on the pic so it seems that dino is a modded one

wonder if that dino is a "premium" mod 🤣 since overwolf gonna take over ark mods

[winged dome]

I know it was mentioned in one of the early ASA Crunches that WC was going to work with modders to get popular mods released with/shortly after ASA, but it is nice to actually see it holding true

[blissful perch]

this imo is also a highly underappreciated notice of a promise being met - too bad the primary emoji on the annoucement is a mirror-image of the people responding

[winged dome]

Exactly

[desert swallow]

🤡

[blissful perch]

I appreciate the response Jordan, but I liked my subtle one 😦

[dire heart]

when ark 2 coming out?

[blissful perch]

late - keep an eye on annoucements

[dire heart]

i cant wait bro

but tbh idk what can be much different

[split dove]

you can look at the steampage, it's gonna be clear that a lot will be different while retaining the same basic mechancis (taming/survival/exploring)

[blissful perch]

I'd strongly recommend looking at the pins here to answer that question - Flobs also summed it up well

[dire heart]

bruh

end of 2024 omfg

[blissful perch]

ASA release in between tho

[cerulean tartan]

Can you buy asa and ark 2 in one package

Or separate

[dire heart]

idk what asa means

[cerulean tartan]

Ark ascendent

[dire heart]

whats that

[cerulean tartan]

Ark remastered comes out in oktober

And it’s named ark ascendent or sum like that

[dire heart]

but like whats the differenc between that and ark 2

and that and ark 1

[cerulean tartan]

Ark 2 is entire new game asa is on new engine ( less lagg and stuff) new Dino’s beter game overall

With bunch of new thing but still ark 1 maps etc but just beter

[dire heart]

k

im currently doing a primal fear playthrough

[cerulean tartan]

Ahh oke

I have never done primal fear

[dire heart]

its hard

very hard

[cerulean tartan]

Mmmm oké

[blissful perch]

separate - the package was removed. Instead, unlike before were ASA needed you to buy all Ark 1 DLC, the ark 1 dlc will be included in your ASA purchase

[cerulean tartan]

Ahh oke thx for answering

[blissful perch]

originally it was ASA + Ark 2 + ASA DLC season passes. Now it's ASA + a single ASA DLC entirely new to ark + ark 2

[cerulean tartan]

Oké I thought it was still the package

[blissful perch]

Nw, but it’s now three distinct things

[mint swan]

Im hoping that eventually it will land on xbox game pass

The original and all of its dlcs are so fingers crossed

[dire heart]

they should be on pc game pass

[blissful perch]

I think ark 2 is promised on gamepass?

[split dove]

day 1 gamepass

[pine basin]

I believe ASE will be removed from game pass and ASA will replace it in the end of October

[viral marsh]

Do u still get the ark battle Royale or no

[pine basin]

I think SOTF isn’t confirmed

[winged dome]

It will be included, but I don't remember if that's expected to be at launch

[pine basin]

Maybe they will update it, but it’s confirmed

[pine basin]

Are you sure?

[winged dome]

Let me see if I can find it, but pretty sure

[pine basin]

You are right

Found it: “At ARK: Survival Ascended’s launch, players will have access to The Island, Scorched Earth, and the new revamped game mode, Survival of the Fittest.”

It’s in the CC 355

[split dove]

only change is Scorched is moved to december

[pine basin]

Yeah, but at least SOTF is in the plans 😂

[split dove]

the only ark pvp i'm gonna touch at all 😂

[winged dome]

The most recent roadmap update didn't mention SotF at all, dunno if that means something or was just an oversight, but all the other roadmaps seem to include SotF

[south lance]

im just excited for the game to look good

at least the looks will make being a quota slave more bearable

actually wait im not playing in a tribe

oh shit

the trees in crystal isles in ue5

i wanna see the red ones

[smoky crow]

Anyone know when ASA is supposed to be released?

[south lance]

october sometime

[vital jetty]

Did you not read what Jat said? He said it's 1 of 2 halves of October!

[vital jetty]

If you're really wanting to be a quota slave for a tribe I got you covered ❤️

[split dove]

the crunch does make it out as the end of october

Check out the very first preview of user-generated content from ARK: Survival Ascended's Mod Program! Garuga123's magnificent creations will be accessible across all platforms, including consoles,*** for launch at the end of October 2023***. Modded ARK content has always been popular with the ARK community and we're excited for our extremely talented modding community to get involved in the ASA Mod Program so that they can provide their amazing content to a much larger ARK community!

[raven drum]

Oh maybe im wrong but crunch says end

[raven drum]

^

[vital jetty]

Yeah I was semi trolling. Someone asked Jat if it was gonna come out the first or last half of Oct, and Jat said one of the two lol

[split dove]

ah yes, the classic Jat responses 😂

[vital jetty]

He's learned his lesson 😮

I think it was him always saying things he shouldn't

[split dove]

what day will it be? some day that month

[vital jetty]

or was that jeremy

I think both were guilty of it lol

[viral marsh]

That’s old no scorched at launch

[vital jetty]

they didn't say none of the other modes though.

[viral marsh]

Wym

[vital jetty]

You're saying "that's old" like it means because no scorched none of the other modes, like SotF

[viral marsh]

Ohh yea mb

[vital jetty]

but the only thing they've said since is no scorched. They didn't say the others were delayed as well.

[viral marsh]

I don’t really care if I get sotf or not but it’s a cool bonus

[vital jetty]

they very well could be, but based on what's said we should /assume/ they're on track for it.

[grim kestrel]

SoTF was a cool concept but when I tried it I wasn't impressed. Not really a fan of the taming method for that mode nor the positioning of the drops.

[vital jetty]

new version or the old one?

[grim kestrel]

When it dropped to Xbox

[vital jetty]

idk when it dropped to xbox. There was the old version, and then the redone one more recently where they revamped it

[winged dome]

First half: 1-15
Second half: 17-31

We can safely deduce ASA will not be releasing on the 16th 👍

[split dove]

quick maths

[vital jetty]

16th would count as one of the halves. though also technically true. Would be funny if they did release it on the 16th lol

[grim kestrel]

Ah, I'll check it out when ASA comes out again then and see if it better then. It just seem like they had the drops location based around the regular Ark experience before so one side was all higher level drops and other was lower level. Would of like a more randomized drop regardless of tier.

[winged dome]

Including it in a half means the other half is smaller and don't gimmie any of that half day shit

[vital jetty]

I typed in what are the halves of October and got 1-15 and 16-31 so shrug

it also says the 2nd half of the month is the 16th - whenever the month ends (for any month). 😮

[grim kestrel]

Why I read Zenar statement and come to the conculsion we exiled October 16th and we go from 15th to 17th immediately lol

[winged dome]

So you're saying ... October got a

THICC

back half?

[grim kestrel]

👀

[vital jetty]

No, Astronomy** is. Which is* a section of Science.
So SCIENCE is saying Oct has a THICC back half.

[grim kestrel]

Ooo got botted

[vital jetty]

Don't mind me just spelling things wrong

Yeah they don't like it when I do caps

[winged dome]

I was gonna say, Astrology is no science 😂

[vital jetty]

I'm still waking up be gentle xD

but yeah no, ASTRONOMY is what came up with that for every month, so Oct being Thicc in the back half is Scientifically backed.

[winged dome]

Scientifically

THICC

backed 👍

[grim kestrel]

I only ever chat in two channels, here and #ark-survival-ascended

[south lance]

no thanks

[vital jetty]

and here I thought you'd enjoy taming Kairuku!

[south lance]

ive actually never done that

i did the whole quotas thing for like a month then quit playijg in tribes xd

honestly if there wasnt an activity requirement on top i might do quotas

get free kit to do whatever with

[tawny crystal]

is ark 2 gona change the singleplayer maps in any way besides the dino's

[untold ingot]

Um

Yeah its a new game with new maps

[split dove]

so Asa was Ark 2 all along? /j

[rare wind]

so is survival ascended

maybe ark survival ascended is just ark 2 like flobs said

[untold ingot]

No

[tropic crag]

What youtuber started this theory, I wonder 😂

[stray elm]

That's not at all what it is.

ASA is a remake of ASE.

[split dove]

## lll..ll loadedclickbait

[tropic crag]

Probably

[grim kestrel]

Sounds like MrClickbaitFTW... I mean MrBossFTW 🤣

[south lance]

i mean asa will have new maps so

[gloomy prawn]

But now it’s end of October o.o for now?

[tropic crag]

It... has been? For a while now?

[gloomy prawn]

Oh last time I checked it was saying just October release. Didn’t specify when.

I just noticed the “end” part

[warm lagoon]

They always have said October
Yesterday that was changed to "end of October"

[gloomy prawn]

That’s what I thought

[tropic crag]

To be fair, if you assumed anything other than the end of October before now, then uh... yeah. This is WC, you do know how this works, right? Lol

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah I know XD
End of august-correction September, correction end of September~October, correction end of October

I’m still assuming it’s going to be released end of November for holiday season.

[warm lagoon]

It could. But due to the contract with nitrado they would have ... idk if id say severe but... "Very big" financial repercussions if it were

[gloomy prawn]

Did their contract verify or promise an exact launch time frame for them?

[warm lagoon]

Their timeframe ends oct 31st

[gloomy prawn]

Then hopefully the push backs will end there

[tropic forge]

that dosent seem promising at all

[warm lagoon]

They looking at about a 4million dollar bill if they dont. Plus other stipulations

[gloomy prawn]

Lose their entire launch profit

Ark 2 suspended till 2025

[winged dome]

It's already late 2024, so 2025 isn't far off 😂

[gloomy prawn]

But the last Screen shot on announcements with the theory of fluid ninja mechanics with water. I’m kinda excited.

But not getting my hopes up.

[winged dome]

Uh, what?

[tropic forge]

🍿

[gloomy prawn]

In the corner of the screen shot zoom in, it says fluid ninja test+

If you look up fluid ninja. You will see the mechanics and how dynamic it is

Fluid lol

[tropic crag]

It does not say flaming ninja test, it says fluid

[gloomy prawn]

sorry

[tropic crag]

But that's just the name of the test environment/program, nothing special there

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah, that’s why I said not getting hopes up

Cause that’s really dynamic and would be a huge upgrade

[tropic crag]

It's included in UE5, and we already know we're getting some semblance of dynamic water physics in Ark 2, possibly even ASA

It's like the dragon nest thing, kinda not super important or groundbreaking as we already knew about it

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah I could care less about a nest

[winged dome]

Oh, okay. Thought I was missing a literal flaming ninja somewhere 😂

[gloomy prawn]

I want to see this environment

I want to see the “interactive” foliage and dynamic water.

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah my bad, I had lost my mind and after saying it 2-3 times I was like.. wtf that’s not what it’s called.
Kind of a facepalm moment

[winged dome]

Me too. Probably won't see gameplay until mid October though, but if we're lucky then maybe a teaser sooner

[tropic crag]

It's certainly not new to the industry, but will be a new thing for Ark and therefore pretty interesting I think to see how it interacts with the rest of the game

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah if the water has waves and is interactive with players and Dino’s, floating bags and storms/rain. That would be something completely new

For ark not for other games.

[tropic crag]

Just imagine a giga dynamically rustling the trees it's wading through in a forest on it's way to you 🤤

[winged dome]

Actual seasons could be a thing. With dynamic snowfall and ground leaves

[tropic crag]

True dat

[gloomy prawn]

I was kinda hoping if a rex does it’s roar, you’ll get Saliva running down your screen for a couple seconds.

If you were to close

[grim kestrel]

🤔

[gloomy prawn]

This would be cool.

[grim kestrel]

Interesting idea, that all I will say

[gloomy prawn]

Just like a dilo, I know it would suck but instead of a colored screen have some nasty gooey crap cover your screen for a couple seconds

[split dove]

we .... we already have that for the dilo in Ase (nvm i read it and asumed wrong)

[gloomy prawn]

I’m was picturing more like.. when ink hits your screen on Mario kart.

But more realistic and not ink

[split dove]

having your screen be just green is already annoying enough, but not being able to see anything would be even worse

[gloomy prawn]

That’s why I did say it would suck xD

[south lance]

i just really wanna see crystal isles in ue5

its either gonna bug out really bad or its gonna be great

crystal isles is coming in like half a year tho 😭

[grim kestrel]

Gen 1 Lunar in UE5 gonna be interesting

[south lance]

true

also imagine abb red and blue zone

those are already amongst the prettiest regions in ark imo

[near shale]

center in ue5 😍

[grim kestrel]

I might not ever see abb, can't stand navigating that map

[south lance]

shouldnt be too hard qith a maewinh

[winged dome]

Weaklings. Back in release, we used Raptors! Never got lost because we actually learned the map!

[tropic crag]

Ab is one of the easiest maps to navigate by way of it's iconic and memorable terrain and landmarks, whe

[grim kestrel]

Eh maybe for you. I settled for trading for anything I need that has to come off that map.

[tropic crag]

I was gonna agree when it looked like a reply to The Center, that map is rather hard to get around on

Or even if you'd said like Val or something

But Ab

That's a head scratcher for sure

[grim kestrel]

I played the center a couple times, it wasn't to bad. Just a little bare for me so I never really felt compelled to go back to that map

[winged dome]

I also have a really good sense of direction and spatial awareness, hardly ever get lost and usually don't have to check the map

[tribal chasm]

That little blue arrow on the map is so handy, I would consider myself the same...but sometimes it's just nice to have the exact location on the map.
Would be sad if that was removed for ASA or Ark2 (or just turned off)

[grim kestrel]

Abb the only map I have had 0 interest in going to just out of pure design. If I was going to sacrifice my flyer usage I would just go to Gen 1

[winged dome]

Eh, to each their own. I love the no-fliers maps but can understand why people don't like them

[tropic crag]

I had more faith in you, Joe. How could you do this to me

[winged dome]

Well, Gen1 as a map is good. The missions on the other hand could use some work

[split dove]

Flyer boy moment ™️

[grim kestrel]

This is an exactly post, might quote this on my about me for discord like I did with a quote from Bertrand Russel.

Everyone has their own preferences

[tribal chasm]

Aberration would be the worst map for them to recreate in UE5, how tedious

[thick tulip]

See Joe's disclaimer above lol

[winged dome]

I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant from a technical aspect

[tribal chasm]

yeah it was just a random thought 'oh man they are going to be recreating aberration, that would be very tedious to do'

and the context beforehand was about the other maps coming into UE5, it wasn't entirely out of topic >.>

[winged dome]

I think Extinction has more unique assets - a lot of those buildings are single instance structures which'll need updated textures and such. Trees on most maps are copy/pasted everywhere

Or maybe Gen1

Lot of new assets there too

But speaking of copy/pasted trees, I do hope they leave at least one Square Tree on the Island

[grim kestrel]

I am honestly looking forward to being able to find a good discord ran one for ASA where auctions get held weekly and bi-weekly cause that was probably the best servers I have been apart of.

Thinking about getting that in a cross play aspect is great.

[winged dome]

I'm looking forward to a revitalized Roleplay community

May seem goofy to some, but it's a lot of fun to make up compelling stories and roll with it

[grim kestrel]

That basically the consensus of what I am talking about, a large interactive community where there more than just doing story quest and boss battles. Envolving community economy.

[winged dome]

Heck yeah

[vapid crag]

Is ark 2 gonna be on mobile?

[vital jetty]

Same, although CI on PvP is the worst for base locations, so it only ever becomes an outpost spot 😦

Sucks since it is a really nice map.

[vital jetty]

Meanwhile it's my favorite map because of the Verticality of it. Was confusing at first, but once you learn it, it becomes so amazing.

[south lance]

thats fine imo, i like not having to deal with tps

until i get back in and figure out the missions for gen1 ill probably still use that map for charcoal

plus its cool to see little wood huts everywhere

at least in sw

[leaden lion]

Crystal Isles has the best starting area of any map by that i mean Southwest zone since I think that qualifies as the easiest

Passive tame wyverns are so nice

[south lance]

crystal wyverns are the only flyers that dont take obscenely long to get as far as their quality goes

[leaden lion]

I started playing on an unoffical server not too long ago and i got a tropical crystal wyvern in the first hour

[south lance]

itd be really balanced except that like, the current manas can kill one with about 2-3 seconds of freeze lol

[leaden lion]

Crystal Isles is one of the pve maps on the cluster im playing on

[south lance]

which isnt really the wyverns fault , just faulty mutation cap

[leaden lion]

So i dont have to worry about manas right now

[south lance]

its not really a big issue usually

you can usually spot enemies really quick and just skybox if you cant fight

[vital jetty]

I'm not talking about starting areas. I'm talking about maps, and which was my favorite, that being Ab.

[south lance]

abb will look crazy in ue5

[vital jetty]

I can't wait to reclaim my base spot again on it.

[south lance]

idk if gamma editting will be a thing now tho

[leaden lion]

Im just making a point towards it being a good map

[south lance]

without brightness changes idk if abb will be playable

[vital jetty]

It's a terrible map for PvP, which is what I specified.

I can see why CI would be good for PvE.

[south lance]

ci is just really nice to look at imo

lots of really cool views

theres a lot of mountains and heights too

[vital jetty]

So long as they do lighting better in general it'd be fine.

I see gamma being a thing though. They weren't fans of Nvidia being able to gamma while others couldn't 😛

[leaden lion]

It is, lots of good base locations and good way to get an early good flier

Thats why i picked it

[south lance]

i dont think theres a lot of good base locations on ci for like, anything bigger than 3 people

theres a lot of ratholes tho

[vital jetty]

Then on Xbox you didn't go against anyone good. Nearly every spot other than like 1 on CI is easily wipeable. People run through bases like a rex killing a dodo.

[leaden lion]

Im in a tribe with one other person

[south lance]

this is pve btw right

[leaden lion]

I dont have that much pvp expirience so i wouldnt know

[leaden lion]

yeah

[south lance]

i dont deny ci provably has a lot of good base building spots

theres a lot of cool areas

[vital jetty]

T hen quit @ing me saying I'm wrong about good base spots for PvP lmfao

[leaden lion]

I found a super flat area which is as we all know is very uncommon for Ark

[vital jetty]

I already said it's good for PvE, for PvP base locations, there aren't good ones.

[blissful perch]

We can pray you don’t need a cave for functional PvP

[vital jetty]

Unless they overhaul breeding which I doubt, they will be needed lol

[winged dome]

Doesn't sound like breeding will be addressed in ASA which is unfortunate

[abstract dragon]

Ark 2 Gamplay Confirmed Next Community Crunch

[winged dome]

Funny guy

[abstract dragon]

nah jk i just was pretending to be loaded crysis

"TODAY we have MAssive ARK news!!!"

shows evo event

[half bough]

This person is a scam and their channel has been boosted with the purchase of subscribers

[tawdry garden]

hi, what date will the wipe be in October? we are already tired of waiting for the official servers to start

?

[tight gate]

servers are closing in 2 weeks its official

[split dove]

it's officially the end for ark se officials, unofficials will be fine tho

[stoic shadow]

When can one buy ark asa?

[daring dagger]

once it releases

planned around end of october

[stoic shadow]

Sweet perfect timing. I will be officially an old man. 😂

[devout cape]

Pretty stoked for ASA and all it's bugs, swear to the giga overlords... I better not DC by dipping my pinky toe in water like I did on Fjordur

[unkempt wing]

never me, i'm always a don't ask me cuz i won't tell you person :^ )

[vital jetty]

Fair. I was thinking Jeremy then lol.

[split dove]

you should look at more up to date info, it's $40 for the base game and all dlc if you want to buy asa (dlc are included in the $40 price for the game), and it's more than just the same game. bunch of new features, creatures, mechanics and a new dlc later on are what we know atm. looking to the most up to date info after reading something is always a better option to avoid some possible confusion

[stray elm]

Bye then. 👋

[winged dome]

Good thing you're not paying $60 😂

Or paying attention either 🤭

[vital jetty]

How are you gonna be wrong on both points at the same time lmao.

I'm assuming you watched a YT video instead of one WC's actual posts about it.

Awe deleted message 😦

[grim kestrel]

The only issue I have with that map Fjordur is the required realm teleporting to go to each biome. If it wasn't for that I would play on that map more often and maybe even build a base.

[grim kestrel]

Oh I forgot all about temperature on Ark considering unofficial servers I play on I always have 1000 to 2000 fortitude minimum 🤣

[untold ingot]

You realm teleport to go to realms. There are tons of biomes on the main map lol

[grim kestrel]

What?

[stone cedar]

Fjordur is incredible!!

That map and abberation are my favorites

World bosses, like 3 other realms besides the massive main world. One a tropical rainforest, one a safari with spots of red hardwoods and another of purple hardwood oasis’s, and the final one a frozen tundra.

I love annaheim

[trim maple]

Arg

[dull quartz]

When does ark ascended actually come out?

[mortal igloo]

end off october alledgedly

thats the devs deadline anyway

[dull quartz]

Ooof, so what is it about... isn't it the exact same just better graphics?

[drowsy hamlet]

no lots of new things

[echo mural]

I saw ASA would not have server transfers til we dec when SE comes out but seeing mod maps being ready for launch, are we going to able to jump f4om map to map at launch

[drowsy hamlet]

probably not

[mortal igloo]

no transfering at the start, they said no transfering so im not even sure its coming

[drowsy hamlet]

ofcourse transfer will come

[dull quartz]

Wait can someone give me a summary please , is it like a official again with new things added or is there optional servers to play like official and unofficial

[stray elm]

They confirmed they're coming with Scorched

They're just delayed until then due to their new network system

[mortal igloo]

i just hope we get cryopods, its a nightmare servers hitting dino cap

[stray elm]

They confirmed we're getting cryopods. But they're still deciding if they'll be on release or when Extinction releases.

[drowsy hamlet]

official, unofficial, modded unofficial, wild baby dinos lots more

[mortal igloo]

that works for me lol

[dull quartz]

Wild baby Dino's seems cool tbh

[mortal igloo]

im playing atlas to fill in the gap, looking forward to asa and ark 2 myself

[drowsy hamlet]

yeah it still makes me think Taming will change fully

[stray elm]

I doubt they'll remove any items.
But I can see reworking them completely to help any balance issues.

[mortal igloo]

old bugs will be gone, ready for new ones

[drowsy hamlet]

yes

[mortal igloo]

and no lags omg server save lag is horrid in ark

[stray elm]

I doubt every creature will become steal-taming. But I can see specific ones being reworked to do so.
Like maybe Yuty's, or Giga's.

[drowsy hamlet]

bro base will load in no problem as well 😆

[mortal igloo]

lol

[tropic forge]

when was confirm baby dinos at launch?

[stray elm]

The first ASA crunch.

[mortal igloo]

oh they released one

[drowsy hamlet]

I don't know but if we getting wild baby's it has to change or we can just nock them out there easy as they won't attack

[stray elm]

All features they listed are promised on day-one, as they stated in the same CC.
They have even more plans internally, but didn't want to say anything just in case they get scrapped or aren't ready on release.

[tropic forge]

humm

[stray elm]

Again, I doubt they'll remove every knockout tame.
It'd more time then making specific species be baby-stealing.

[drowsy hamlet]

a well will see

as long as it doesn't get delayed again I can't wait anymore

[tropic forge]

it wont, they already said mods will come by the end of oct so thats basicaly confirming ASA will come at oct for sure plus theres the deal whit nitrato

[drowsy hamlet]

yeah I know but it's still ark mate 😂

[tropic forge]

true but when comes to snail and $ theres no marge for error

[drowsy hamlet]

lol f snails

they have the perfect name I give them that tho 💀

altho ants would have worked as well

[tropic forge]

not really, should be more hyena to be correct

[drowsy hamlet]

or them birds

them little f birds

[stray elm]

That was for ASA

Jat confirmed the 'end of October' is for ASA's release, 'with' Garuga's mod coming out day-one.

[drowsy hamlet]

I know another mod that's coming well map 😆

but don't think I'm aloud to share it

[stray elm]

?

[stray elm]

How would you know this?

[drowsy hamlet]

om im the def there discord

[stray elm]

Def?

[drowsy hamlet]

map owner

[stray elm]

What map did you make for ASE?

[drowsy hamlet]

I'm just saying there are more than 1 mod on day 1

[stray elm]

I'd assume you're someone well known in the modding community then. Since they wouldn't just give the ASA devkit to a random person.

Nobody sounded harsh.

[grim kestrel]

Someone in ark channel gave a plausible prediction of ASA could release on the 24th where they would then set up for fear evolved on the 31st.

Honestly sounds like a good possible timeline

[stray elm]

I'm gonna be honest, I think they're skipping Fear-Evolved this year.
I doubt they want to put too much effort into an event 'right' after releasing a game.
They also have Scorched to work on in November, but I can see Turkey-Trials being more likely.

[tropic crag]

I wouldn't be surprised, with what little communication we've been getting on account of the troglodytes constantly booing their every move, I bet they've reworked that effort into some considerable progress 😂

[grim kestrel]

Very possible

[tropic crag]

In reply to your statement about a 24th release, Joe

[drowsy hamlet]

all I know of him is there are multiple who have it but he can't say who they are as that's private

[stray elm]

I'm probably just going to assume Nekatus.

[drowsy hamlet]

no idea I do know he will bring his maps but I don't know if he has the kit already

[tropic crag]

We already know from this last CC that it confirmed some greater sphere of mod authors have gotten early access, and we can take that a step further by linking it to the rumors that said that exact thing like... months ago

Don't remember who all it said in the rumors but I'd put money on them all being included seeing as Garuga was on that list

[drowsy hamlet]

all I know is ark is gonna cost me a lot of money with them mods 😂

[tropic crag]

Paid mods aren't happening lmao

[stray elm]

Not every mod is going to be paid.
And I believe Nekatus and Garuga have stated they have no interest in the premium system

[tropic crag]

Yeah, because everyone knows paid mods are cringe af

[drowsy hamlet]

some will and it's logical they take time to make them

[tropic crag]

Bethesda, best known for the mods that their fans make, tried the same thing. Guess how that turned out?

[stray elm]

I doubt paid mods will go anywhere, cause if a studio much larger like Bethesda couldn't keep their paid mod system afloat, then I doubt Wildcard can.

[grim kestrel]

It probably gonna take a bit before I find a server cluster I decide to commit to in ASA, cause I am going to be looking for quite a few specific aspects in how they progress.

1.) Looking for a good community driven interactive and economy based where people look more into auctions and trades outside of stuff they focus on.

Will actually look into adding some of better maps and dinos in mods.

[tropic crag]

So, because I take time to whittle a duck out of wood, I should just get paid for it, even if it's a shit looking duck?

Modding is a hobby, not a job. You can always take donations, though

[drowsy hamlet]

ofcourse it's still art in someone's eyes 😂

[tropic crag]

Sure, and most people's trash is some village lunatic's treasure I guess

[grim kestrel]

To each their own

[stray elm]

Art is subjective. But even some Art are objectively bad.

[drowsy hamlet]

I do agree this is a better option tho

but for a map 1 time payment isn't to bad tho after all that makes it cinda a new dlc map :)

anyway I gotta go

[stray elm]

I believe if a modded map is onpar to DLC level of quality, it should be paid if the author wants it to be.
But those quality of mods would be too uncommon to keep the premium mods system afloat.

[untold ingot]

There are very few maps that are that quality.

[plucky mountain]

I hope they leave all the genesis series out of ark two and we go back to primal ark

[untold ingot]

Wont happen

[grim kestrel]

Ark 2 is going to be primitive style

[tropic crag]

You're in luck, Ark 2 is a completely different game!

[plucky mountain]

Thank god I’m over the futuristic junk I miss when I was scared when someone started pushing with brontos and Rex’s

I got 14k hours In the game now and I’m just really over the meta now days and stegos definitely need a nerf

[grim kestrel]

Bootleg back with the veggies reactions, watch out

[stray elm]

Can I not react anymore to things I don't like?

[grim kestrel]

Of course you can

[untold ingot]

I am with you, but they wont remove genesis

[tribal chasm]

it wasn't even a power creep with stegos, it went from a trike soaking a few turrets at a time (carefully walking up to the wall/getting into position), to running into a 100 turret wall with 0 fks on a stego

[untold ingot]

Pretty much yeah

[tribal chasm]

actually that seems to be the theme with most things in Ark -- goes from hard to obtain, to more or less infinite

[untold ingot]

Well, "balance"

You do have to admit the defenses started to get waaaaay better built over the years too

It would be kind of funny if they nerf hatch frames

[tribal chasm]

that one update with the new metal parts, I forget what it was called -- the one that introduced triangles/double doorframes etc

I think that was when I noticed defenses starting to get very different

[grim kestrel]

I do hope some of the consumables and structures that are unique to Prim+ make it into ASA

[tribal chasm]

Regarding the Genesis removal and stuff, I look at other gamemodes with a Classic version (ie WoW/Old school Runescape) which went down different paths...certain conditions could create a situation like that.
Like what if ASA explodes in popularity and it wants to last longer than a couple of years?

[untold ingot]

Prim+ was discontinued, the source files are/will be available. Expect someone to mod it

[untold ingot]

You mean like ase did?

Ase lasted 8 years, and is only shutting down because the devs are making a better one,

[grim kestrel]

I think ASA and Ark 2 both could sustain playerbase as those that have come to expect tek experience may probably just stick with ASA and others who don't care about tek will move on to the newer game.

[tribal chasm]

yes but they were planning to release ASA with all xpacs over like, a year or two right?

[split dove]

over like a year

the original timeline for gen 2 to be released for ASA if it were to launch in august would be Q2 2024, and the free dlc maps to come after that

with Island to ab being Q4 2023 and extinction - gen 2 being Q1 - Q2 2024

[blissful perch]

Imo the approach would be to make modded content vanilla and package it as a DLC - similar to what WC does with community maps. Only monetization system I can really see working. With kickbacks/payment to the modder ofc for their work

[grim kestrel]

^ That honestly I agree with. I'd say have a donate place on the mod page where people can if they want to, but yeah any paid mods should go through WC. I share that opinion

[untold ingot]

You also arent a mod dev

[final roost]

When is Ark 2 coming out?

[grim kestrel]

No official date, only know it slated for end of 2024

[lavish coral]

WoW classic is 12.99€/month, blizzard wouldn’t have cared less about popularity if was a loss for them. ASA it’s 40€ one time payment, the hard truth is that they can’t keep official servers up forever with this pricing model.

[desert swallow]

Realize that WC or Snail Games most likely negotiated cheaper price for their official servers with their deal with nitrado. DLCs and years of popularity if they pull it off will keep the servers running for quite some time.

[potent hull]

sow if ASA is going to yous FluidNinja the game my be good

[tropic crag]

I dunno, I'm not super well versed in that stuff anymore

But on the surface level, it sounds great

[merry badger]

Is ASA worth buying?

[tropic crag]

Imo, 100% worth

[merry badger]

But it's quite pricy tho

[tropic crag]

If 40 USD is pricy, then you have other things to worry about than gaming

[merry badger]

Yea lol

[winged dome]

$40 is pricey? 🤔
Its an excellent deal for the amount of content you get if you enjoy Ark

[serene onyx]

Hope asa is good

[potent hull]

i look at videos of FluidNinja look good

[merry badger]

It's pricy in my country, atleast to me

[serene onyx]

Like not terrible bugs

[merry badger]

Cmiiw but it's just the same game with better graphics, bug fixes and more creatures right?

[serene onyx]

And more content

[tropic crag]

I doubt it'll have anything worse than Ark when it first launched 😅

[serene onyx]

And a new canon map

[merry badger]

As in?

[tropic crag]

New and updated features too, like wild babies and such

[serene onyx]

Look through the crunches

[merry badger]

Oo

[tropic crag]

Look at the pins, they should all be there

[serene onyx]

That works too

[tropic crag]

Or, well, shit... uhh, where a Bee when you need one? 😅

@fallow niche , you got that list of ASA related CCs?

[analog hamlet]

ASA Info Reference List

All information about ASA can be found in the following articles:

• Community Crunch 355
• Community Crunch 356
• Community Crunch 368

Creation date: 2023-08-31

[fallow niche]

[tropic crag]

Thank you Beeeeeeeee

[merry badger]

Ok ill go take a look

Thxx

[fallow niche]

The ASA stuff isn't pinned here since this is technically Ark 2, the gist of it is pinned in #general though by jat

[tropic crag]

Fair enough, any ETA on an ASA channel yet, or is it still in limbo?

[fallow niche]

It'll be #ark-survival-ascended , afaik, and then we'll make another one somewhere else for specifically ASE.

[tropic crag]

Ah, that's right, I remember hearing that at some point

[merry badger]

Will it include all canon dlc?
Or will i need to buy them separately

[serene onyx]

All maps

[blissful perch]

All ark 1 dlc is included

[serene onyx]

Except the new one i think

[fallow niche]

Make sure to read the last link in the ASA bot link

[serene onyx]

Im not sure

[blissful perch]

But it won’t be available on release (it’ll come out over time for free tho). Correct that there is a NEW dlc that’s paid

[merry badger]

Ok

[grim kestrel]

Need to add the cross platform mod preview crunch to that bot

[grim kestrel]

That was my first thought when I was catching up in this chat reading that

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah 40$ is pretty minimal when you think how much you waste on crap you probably don’t need monthly, and that’s a 1 time payment not reoccurring.

[grim kestrel]

Not just that but PS5 and Xbox X/S games are $70 for standard edition for most games now.

[gloomy prawn]

And you got yourself into it. I mean.. if you spent the hundreds on buying a PC or console..

[grim kestrel]

I have a gaming rig and Xbox Series X so yeah

[gloomy prawn]

Right if I had the money to spend on the platform 40$ is very minimal.

I mean, why the rest of us play you can wait for a discount to hit eventually.

Not to be.. mean or anything , but if 40$ is a problem for a game, or to pricey. I would kinda suggest a new hobby. As any platforms games or hardware is going to be pricey.

[blissful perch]

The price per hour for a game is pretty damn low as is

You also don’t (and imo shouldn’t) get a game at launch if you’re broke. Best to wait regardless to see if it’s worth it, but even better if you need to wait for a sale

[gloomy prawn]

Yeah if you’re broke please save your money for your groceries, or gas to get to work or utilities and spend the money when the price is not a problem.

[vital jetty]

Pretty certain the $40 is a "launch" deal, that will go up after x amount of time, so that discount wouldn't happen for a very long time.

[tardy spruce]

109$ dollars for me

[solemn blade]

was ark 2 delayed?

[lime forge]

Twice

[wanton pike]

No, it is still scheduled to be released 2035

[solemn blade]

;(

[tardy spruce]

It’s actually 3020

[marble basin]

”Unreal 6 is about to drop so were gonna aim to make ark in that instead so unfortunately we have to delay!”

[weary vault]

Yo

[grim kestrel]

Currently it still slated toward end of 2024, they're trolling.

[serene onyx]

Watch them delay again

[grim kestrel]

If they do, then it is what it is. Delay are a good thing in my book as it means they won't release in an incomplete state like others most recent failure Cyberpunk

[serene onyx]

Wild card does delays but it doesn’t do anything theres still many bugs and looks unfinished

[ocean mason]

They delay the things for good reason, just imagine the gamebreaking bugs

[desert swallow]

No way! It's a well known fact that corporations value our misery over our money!

[vital jetty]

Delays aren't the issue in themselves. It's the constant Delay after delay, pushback after pushback.

WC hasn't hit a single date they've put out for a new DLC without a delay (excluding community maps).

While I understand it, I can also see how it makes many in the community meme about it or have doubts. If they kept the dates more close to Vest until it was almost guaranteed it would come out on the given day/month, it would do them a lot better in terms of the community not being AS toxic about it should something come up and they had to push back a week or two.

Which they're kind of doing with the "sometime in October" route.

[grim kestrel]

I understand why people do it, I could just care less personally how someone else feels about constant delays. If a game delays 2, 5, 10 times and releases in a state I enjoy it then I am good with it.

[south lance]

i think the biggest issue is that you killed servers earlier than they shouldve when you delay

[vital jetty]

And they could say the same about not caring about your opinion on the delays.

Delay after delay hurts the game/dev because people start to lose faith in the company and will decide they don't want to play or spend their money there anymore. Therefore you find ways to address the issue, aka not giving a hard date that's most likely going to get pushed back.

[south lance]

cause everyone was expecting release at some date, and began quitting around that date or just getting less active. Then when the delay hits, nobody wants to really get back in

[grim kestrel]

But yet they are still here

[south lance]

ark being an mmo suffers from low pop harder than games with matches of 2-60 players imo

[vital jetty]

Using discord as your proof they're still here is hysterical at best. That isn't how it works.

[grim kestrel]

Hey if a game company releases games that fail my expectation, you know what I do. I don't go into place that involve anything to do with the company or the game. I go find something that interest me

[vital jetty]

You talk about not liking when your opinion gets dismissed, but yet dismiss a large portion of people who don't like delays, and then don't see the viability of simply not giving a hard date, which means when they push back their internal date, no one knows, and therefore they can't complain about a delay lmao.

[grim kestrel]

Not waste time moaning and complaining pointless

[vital jetty]

This wasn't abouta released game not meeting expectations, this what about delays and how to address them so it doesn't upset others and potentially make them lose faith. Don't move the goalpost.

While you and I don't care about those delays (probably for different reasons but still), MANY others do. My group of 20 that was going to play is down to 5 because of the delays, THAT is an issue for WC, whether you care or not.

[grim kestrel]

It all reaches the same goal. If I am constantly disappointed in a company and their game I am not sticking around. I am looking for a game I can enjoy.

[vital jetty]

How can you be disappointed in a game if it's delayed... It's moving the goalpost from the original discussion lmao.

[grim kestrel]

It would end up with me just moving on and forgetting something was even in production.

I'll use Police 10-13 as a prime example, it was supposed to be a top class simulator that never made anything of it. I eventually just moved on after so many push backs.

[vital jetty]

Okay, and had they not given a hard date that got pushed back a million times, and only gave a date where at worst it got pushed back 1-2 weeks, you'd probably have remain interested.

Which has been my entire point. Stop giving Hard dates until it's /ALMOST/ guaranteed it will launch on that day. The problem gets solved of people getting wore out from delays.

[grim kestrel]

I agree but it wouldn't stop some people from still finding something to complain about. Look at Rockstar they provide minimal release information until they have one they are going to hit and they still have people that complain.

[pine basin]

TBF the majority of players aren’t playing on official servers, and they will keep playing the game

For the official servers players, yeah, they will have to wait probably a month

[vital jetty]

People will complain no matter what. It's about what's better for the company. And not having multiple delays will always be better from a marketing standpoint, because it shows you can hit the dates you said you would.

[grim kestrel]

100% I think they should be more like RG in that aspect and Wildcard should just work in the background and just provide teaser previews and such as progress updates.

[pine basin]

Like most have pointed out here 99% of WC issues comes from their PR department

Big announcements followed by multiple delays

For that reason I think radio silence is better for them

[vital jetty]

Agreed. I like how Joe is agreeing with you when you're saying what I said but in a different way, and he argued against what i was saying lmao.

I still want the reaper queens I could "tame" that allowed ME to summon nameless 😉

[south lance]

i think even unofficial wipe servers are suffering pop lows but i havent checked in like 5 weeks

[vital jetty]

would only make sense if those servers plan on leaving to ASA.

[south lance]

a lot are

[vital jetty]

that's different then though.

[pine basin]

I think that’s expected. No big events and no new maps/content

[vital jetty]

Unofficials can add countless community maps if they wanted to though.

[pine basin]

Everytime a new dlc was released the populations would skyrocket

[south lance]

they could but i think most people are gonna be moving to asa assuming launch goes well

[pine basin]

Sure, but most just add new official maps and content

[south lance]

especially if mod support is really good then all unofficials should have some motivation to set up again on asa to play with optimized/better and new mods

[pine basin]

But based on Steam charts, the number of players keeps pretty much solid 50k+ players peak during the day

[south lance]

idk how expensice the move will be tho

[vital jetty]

idk how popular it is now, but The Volcano was a super fan favorite back in the day on Unofficials, and it never became an official map.

[south lance]

as long as spyglass mod is good then asa unofficial will be good

[pine basin]

My experience is those maps are mostly used together with mods like primal fear

[south lance]

better yet, just tlc the spyglass

literally best time to do that

[pine basin]

And those are popular to an extent

[south lance]

make it show stats

[vital jetty]

Never played primal fear myself.

[pine basin]

Tried once, not for me 😂

[vital jetty]

Yeah this will be nice if they do, instead of needing to memorize what stat number correlates to points in it pretame lol.

I'd even settle for knowing it as soon as they're knocked out as a middle ground.

[pine basin]

What kind of features do you want? Like the awesome spyglass?

[south lance]

i mean even that doesnt do anything for stuff besides hp no?

[south lance]

yeah but just being able to see stat distribution is fine (idk if awesome spyglass does more havent touched it in like 8 montjs)

[vital jetty]

IWhat do you mean?

[pine basin]

It does. It’s like the helmet + tek spyglass lol

[south lance]

you cant see any stats besides hp with normal spyglass i think

and level ofc

or wait im thinking mobile

you dont even get hp on pc

[vital jetty]

Spyglass you don't see hp, that's mag glass.

[pine basin]

Just implement Ark breeding in the game 😂

[vital jetty]

I think it should show ALL stats, and the point distribution. even if that's on knock out, or once you start passive feeding something as a middle ground.

Shouldn't have to memorize what HP, stam, or melee # correlates to how many points is in it, or have to rely on a 3rd party app like smart breeder to know the exact stats I have post tame lol.

[south lance]

oh fuck yeah i just realized even that doesnt show the raw number lol

[vital jetty]

How does everyone feel about no pre order for ASA?
I like it but don't. Would hope for a "pre order" of like a week, or even a few days just for preloading. Tryna download and install Ark at the same time as everyone else always makes it take so long lol

[south lance]

i dont have much of an opinion since im not gonna be doing anything until others have seen what the game is like

if i was in a tribe i migjt care

since then id need to be on to help farm day1

[vital jetty]

I'll be in a tribe who is trying to be extremely competitive so 😮

[grim kestrel]

I would def like to pre-order if for nothing else than to pre-load for sure

[south lance]

yeah then its kinda necessary

but i dont have any faith in tribe play at launch cause no transfers

[vital jetty]

#ThatOneTimeHalfTheTribeTook7HoursToDownloadOneTime

[south lance]

feel like its gonna be a bunch of hordes of megatribe players capping servers

[vital jetty]

Just don't choose a server that ends in 5 or 0, and usually you can get your tribe onto the server xD

[grim kestrel]

Especially if it upwards of 200GB like games seem to be now.

[vital jetty]

Supposedly part of the recode will make it less large.

[grim kestrel]

170GB, 156GB (This ASE), 133GB, 123GB, 115GB, and 108GB is the first five games in my games and apps on my Series X lol

[vital jetty]

Ark w/o any of the non canonical maps (just story maps) is almost 300GB, so 200GB WOULD be less lol.

[south lance]

harddrives got so big the past couple years that i guess game studios figured bloatware isnt an issue

probably streamlined development then

[blissful perch]

Let’s not pretend ark was a standard, it was a massive outlier

Normally stuff that fat has a feature film of cutscenes in it

[vital jetty]

Yeah, a lot of "larger" scale RPG games don't take up anywhere near the amount that ark does, even with all those cutscenes lol

[lavish coral]

^^ this, if remember correctly are the assets and texture that occupy all that space. Hopefully with the new engine will also get an optimisation on this side

[vital jetty]

And the cleaner code will dramatically help.

[bitter kiln]

One thing I know about ark 2 is that the soundtrack is gonna be 🔥

[drowsy zephyr]

Hi, joined recently but can anyone guide me as to what is ark ascended? Is it a new game? I used to play ark evolved on ps4 but finally decided to switch to pc. havent bought ark evolved as i heard the servers are shutting down? do you know when Ark ascended comes out? thanks

[split dove]

look at these crunches for better info, ark ascended is the Unreal Engine 5 remaster for Ark Survival Evolved that was mostly made due to community demand of ''Ark 1 but in UE5'' to please both sides of the community when Ark 2 is out for the people that don't like Ark 2 and want to continue playing Ark 1

[serene onyx]

Asa is basically a separate game with better graphics and more and its coming out sometime in October (maybe)

[split dove]

and the comment with links to asa community crunches should help to clear up some questions/confussion

[drowsy zephyr]

Ok thanks for the help, so I should wait until the Asa comes out then. I can't find pre order on steam, will it show later in the month?

[split dove]

there won't be any pre-oders and they said it's coming at the end of next month in the latest community crunch in #announcements. they might put up a steam page when they showcase the gameplay trailer closer to release

[drowsy zephyr]

Ok thanks, I will keep an eye on the announcements 👍

[grim kestrel]

If you want a simplified rundown here something with a brief rundown from those 3 crunch articles. And to be honest if I was just getting into Ark I would choose to just wait at this point unless you had Gamepass for PC then you could download it for Windows through there to check it out.

ASA
ARK: Survival Ascended will now be a standalone package released on every platform (PC Windows/Steam, Xbox Series S/X, and PlayStation 5) at $39.99.

The package will include the following pieces of content built-in (not sold separately), with each remastered and altered for the next-generation on Unreal Engine 5: w/Cross Play and Cross Platform Modding

The Island (Released at Launch at the end __October 2023__)
Survival of the Fittest: The Island
Scorched Earth (Release in December)
Ragnarok & Aberration (Released by Q1 2024)

Extinction, Genesis Part 1, Genesis Part 2, and all the community-created maps are also to be released over time in 2024 (Fjordur, Ragnarok, The Center, Lost Island, Valguero, Crystal Isles)

[split dove]

i appreciate the effort Joe, but my answer linked the post with the links to asa info crunches

[grizzled token]

@grim kestrel will we have to buy the dlcs again?

or does the 39.99 for the game cover all dlcs

[split dove]

only the new asa exclusive one, all the ase dlcs are included with asa purchase for $40

[grim kestrel]

No, as posted it says "not sold seperately". Only two exclusive maps for ASA will be paid later on

[grizzled token]

ohhhhh new maps 😉

[tropic crag]

Wait, we only know of one new paid DLC I'm pretty sure. There were however statements about how there may be more, though

[grim kestrel]

Saw Bee mention two DLC, one of them could be something other than a map. Just that they were both going to be paid.

Bee could be more specific when she checks in this channel

Check in #ark-survival-ascended @tropic crag

[stray elm]

Only one DLC is confirmed by Wildcard themselves.
The two DLC thing is from Snail-Games.
I personally don't take anything they say as definitive, until it's final. Since things change, and they love to just say shit.

[pine basin]

Bee is just a moderator, she knows as much as we do

Official info is there will be one paid exclusive dlc

[fallow niche]

I thought I saw it somewhere in one of the community crunches tbh, but if I'm wrong it's fine XD

[split dove]

only time new asa dlcs were mentioned was in crunch 355, wich only revealed the one coming later on alongisde asa itself

[fallow niche]

Then it was probably me being up at 4am on discord, ignore my comment 😄

[split dove]

i'm gonna have to wake up around 4am for work 🫠

[fallow niche]

sleep in

But also, yeah just one DLC, I'll edit the thing I said in #ark-survival-ascended

[stray elm]

It was Snail-games that started this whole 'two DLC' thing. But again, personally not going to take their word on it until Wildcard confirms it.

[grim kestrel]

Fair

[gentle kiln]

Are caves changing are transfers going to be disabled and lastly new anti cheats and mesh detection?

[stray elm]

1: Yes, but to what degree? We don't know.
2: Yes, until the release of Scorched where they'll be readded.
3: We don't know, but most likely.

[south lance]

a lot of big games do take a lotta space tho, thats basically all im judging from

[gentle kiln]

Wait so they we’ll be open on start of wipe or not open transfer don’t scorched and island come out same day you confused me

[stray elm]

There's no wipe for ASA.

You mean Survival Evolved?

Cause the servers are just flat out shutting down for that.

[gentle kiln]

No I mean when Asa servers come out are transfers from server to server loot going to be anabled right away or nah

[stray elm]

No, transfers as a whole wont be a thing until Scorched gets rereleased on ASA.

They're changing their networking system, so they needed more time.

[gentle kiln]

Wait so just island now on day 1

And still little confused but ok

[stray elm]

Correct.

Scorched will come out a month after ASA's release now.

[gentle kiln]

Ok

[vital jetty]

They said in December, which depending on when Ark Launches in Oct and when Scorched released in Dec (not including any potential delay) could be anywhere from 1 to almost 3 months lol.

[tropic forge]

fun times for both pvp and pve

pvp getting raid for the mega tribe of that server, pve getting trolls annoying the hell out others that trying to play

[stray elm]

Rechecking it, but I thought they said Scorched will be in November.

[tropic forge]

it was suppose 1 month after launch

[stray elm]

Yeah, October would be two months

Trying to find the CC where Scorched was delayed, but I can't find it

[tropic forge]

try the last one

[vital jetty]

CC368 "We’ve also decided to separate the release date of The Island and Scorched Earth. With what we’ve learned about remastering The Island from the ground-up, it wouldn’t be feasible to complete Scorched Earth to a standard we’re happy with. So for now, we’re going to plan that Scorched Earth will be coming to ASA in December this year, Ragnarok and Aberration will follow in Q1 2024, and the rest of the maps beyond then."

[stray elm]

Huh, I was wrong

[vital jetty]

they never said 1 month after launch

[tropic forge]

not sure why i have 1month in my head but anyway it will be one month + or -

[stray elm]

Wonder how delayed the new DLC will be.

[vital jetty]

It was supposed to launch around when Ab did, so probably around then still

[stray elm]

Ab was suppose to release in December I believe.

[vital jetty]

If ASA launched Oct 1st, and then Scorched launched towards the end of December, it would be closer to 3 months 😛

[tropic forge]

true

[vital jetty]

Originally. With the push back of scorched, Ab also got pushed back to Q1 of 2024 along with Ext

Same CC they talk about it 368.

[tropic forge]

im thinking ASA coming at the end of oct

[stray elm]

Right, so We're probably only getting The-Island and Scorched this year.

[tropic forge]

they gonna push to the limited of that nitrato deal

[stray elm]

They already confirmed that.

[vital jetty]

Nah, Jat said when asked about what half of October it was gonna be released in that it was one of the two halves, so in theory it could be the first! lol

[tropic forge]

when? i only sough confirm was the mods for the end of oct

[stray elm]

Then Dollie stated on Friday that 'yep, the end of October thing is for ASA'

"for launch at the end of October 2023" part of the last CC

Dollie confirmed that's for ASA.

[grim kestrel]

Bootleg correct

Saturday at 03:45 AM

welcome_crunch2023-1.png

Check out the very first preview of user-generated content from ARK: Survival Ascended's Mod Program! Garuga123's magnificent creations will be accessible across all platforms, including consoles, for launch at the end of October 2023.

[stray elm]

I asked Dollie if that was for the mod, or ASA.
She stated "You got us! That's the release window for ASA"

This was in general when the CC came out.

[vital jetty]

ye I looked it up, she did confirm they're releasing in Tandem, so good to know.

[stray elm]

Yerp

[tender otter]

Hmm idk if it's just me, but the more I keep hearing about snippets of ASA and less hopeful I get.

Like so far we got:

• no actual gameplay or trailers
• mods that may exclusively might be thru overwolf instead of the tried and true steam workshop. Why?
• premium mods (cause that works so well for Bethesda creation club)
• Nitrado server exclusivity (rip other server sites and likely a price increase due to monopoly for next 3 years)

I thought the original goal was just to keep the ark 1 community on board after the announcement of what ark 2 would be. We seem to be moving away bit by bit.

And they're still so secretive about everything (which I get since it's not released yet, but give us something to hold onto to).

[near shale]

I think the reason its been radio silence from them is just because, no matter what they put out, they will usually get more backlash then excitement. So its easier to just devote resources to development and not teasers.

As for the other stuff... yeah. It's a little bleak, I'll agree with you there.
I think the healthy attitude to have is to be skeptical. That's what I'm doing personally, I know I probably will buy it, but I'm waiting to see how launch turns out first.

[lavish coral]

Most strange thing is that still no page on steam. Let people add a game to a wish list can’t hurt at all

[tender otter]

Yeah I can see your point. Sometimes silence is the best approach, but it still doesn't mean it demoralizing.

Like I made myself another PC so I can host my own cluster of ASA. I was fully into what it was promised to be, but it's starting to be muddied (by potential corporate greed?)

Like I've used overwolf before for other games like Minecraft, so I'm no stranger towards it, but I can't see how it's easier to use than steam workshop. And it might just be me, but I would prefer not to have more programs that I'm predominantly gonna use for one game. And premium mods just leaves an especially bad taste in my mouth.

[tender otter]

Yes! And no pre order bonuses?

That's legit the crazy part. I was so sure they would try something

[stray elm]

They're not doing pre-orders

[tender otter]

Exactly

[stray elm]

You also can't do pre-orders for early-access games on Steam

[lavish coral]

I’m neutral about bonuses, btw according to steam partner public doc they will have to create a coming soon page 2 weeks before release

[stray elm]

They will not allow you to.
It's against their ToS

[tender otter]

Well that solves that mystery. But doesn't change my overall feelings about asa potential.

Bonuses for me is also neutral. Glad to hear it will have its own page soon tho

[vital jetty]

Because ASA will have crossplay, and from what I recall, they stated it makes integration of Mods for ALL platforms easier.

[near shale]

I think the main reason theyre moving to overwolf is bc mods will be cross platform

Oh shit someone just said that mb

[vital jetty]

happens lol

[tender otter]

I understand that now, thanks!

All I can do is hope for the best at this point. October 31st needs to hurry up and get here 😂

[tropic forge]

gonna suck for ppl that play whit mods for sure, having money involve i cant see them allow good mods going for free, might allow a cheat mod for weight go for free but thats it

[stray elm]

It isn't Wildcards say of which mod is paid or not. It's the authors choice to participate into the premium mods..

[tropic forge]

so overwolf ppl dont make the selection?

[stray elm]

It's a process.
The authors have to submit their mods onto their platform, but that's no different then Steam. Only difference now is if the author wants to submit it as a normal or premium mod.
Then it'll go through Wildcard, and I believe they stated they'll hand pick through the mods being submitted to go into the premium system.
Then after everything is approved, does their mod become premium.

[tropic forge]

thats good

[stray elm]

It's up to the authors if they want to go through that process to make money, or just post it and go through a smaller process to publish it for free.

[tropic forge]

wonder if that modder from starfield will try his luck on ark now 🤣

[stray elm]

I believe Gaurga and Nekatus stated they have no interest in the premium mods system. So those quality mods wont be going behind a paywall.

[tropic forge]

guess even ASA wont get the S+ mod to officials, i always wanted the transmitter from S+

[vital jetty]

Isn't that the one you could run bossfights from, and detect creatures anywhere on map? or at least got the coords to?

[stray elm]

S+ is really fucking broken if you play with every mechanic.

[tropic forge]

unless wc gets a discount from the modder in the deal 🤣

[stray elm]

I believe day-one transmitter was able to do that?
Thought it was removed after people complained how OP that was.

[tropic forge]

ho i really like only the S+ from what i sough once on yt cause it had all the wild dinos of the map whit lvl's and location

[vital jetty]

Yeah but a Mod made it do that again. I remember playing on an unoff that had it.

[stray elm]

Yeah, if you know what to do. You can basically break any form of balance.
There's a lot of self automation stations for resource collecting.

[tropic forge]

i was talking only about the transmiter, unless it had more functions

[stray elm]

Besides the boss thing, I think that's it.

[tropic forge]

i sough it show where wild dinos were and their lvls

[vital jetty]

Looking up s+ transmitter on the ark fandom, it states you could do boss arenas from it.

[tropic forge]

that could had my live soo much easier and save tons of hours for looking for alpha basilisk and reapers for the boss fight

[stray elm]

Honestly, self automation stations would be nice to have for midgame players to not pointlessly go out of their way to spend their whole day harvesting early game resources.
Like a stone harvesting machine, or fiber collector.

[tropic forge]

you have auto stone farming well kind off

just put a doe on wandering near rocks

[stray elm]

You still have to go out of your way to pickup an doed with an argy and go to a stone heavy location.

[tropic forge]

it really depends of the situation and what youre doing whit rocks but yeh if you need tons youre better whit a argy whit doe

crab is better later whit ab

[stray elm]

Right, but wouldn't it be nice to eventually get something to just auto-create stone over time. So you can focus on more important resources like metal?

[tropic forge]

i would trade all of those for a auto egg colector

its annoying as hell to colect eggs, only time i had for that was when i was raising armies

[vital jetty]

I mean Gachas basically do this, although you need to feed them to get it going and stay somewhat on top of it.

[tropic forge]

plus gachas make ppl going crazy whit those damn gacha towers, laggy as f

[vital jetty]

If your server is laggy, it has more to do than just gacha towers lol.

[tropic forge]

of course but dosent help having giants multpile gacha towers either

on pve ppl go extra mile on them

[stray elm]

Fair enough.

[tawdry sequoia]

Regarding Overwolf. Does anyone actually have an experience with it regarding mods? How does it compare to the routine we currently enjoy via steam workshop?

Is it as easy and just clicking subscribe and thats it?

Do we have to link our steam account to it as well?

[hot scarab]

Hello all I hope everyone is doing well, I wanted to ask about this server wiper that’s been suppose to happen does anyone know the date this patch will hit and what it will apply for console users? I’m on ps5

[tawdry sequoia]

Should be Sept 30th as official servers go offline at that date

[hot scarab]

Thank you

[pine basin]

There’s no server wipe, nor patch. The 30th official servers will go offline and won’t come back on. If you play on an unnofficial server, nothing will happen in the 30th.

[manic panther]

Should I cryo all my Dinos before the 30th or leave them out 😁

Or 🧨

[lime forge]

The data is getting deleted either way

[manic panther]

Maybe they go offline, then ASA is delayed and they go back online

[lavish coral]

Don't waste your time to cryo all your dino 🙂

[blissful perch]

This is common game design practice in most survival games 😅. Early game resources eventually become farmable/automated so players focus on mid game resources. Then repeat again for midgame ones as players get to late game

[stoic shadow]

If ark wanted to make money they would sell the official ase server data to players for single player use or private servers

[tropic forge]

and ppl complain about gaming companies for mtx and shady deals 🤦‍♂️ gotta love coments like these

you sure youre not a snail employed?

[weak wind]

If you stay on when it goes offline you'll be stuck in there and the NPCs will become real lol. #isekaianime #originstories

[weak wind]

They kind of already have something like this with Nitrado......👀

[blissful perch]

It’s being offered for free though already 😅. WC posted it

[hazy elm]

playing your server on your computer is very very demanding btw, you need prob up to 64gb of ram and a good system to handle some servers.

Tons of structures on some servers

[blissful perch]

I’m sure - but the data is there and it’s free

[hazy elm]

Just imagine downloading any server and becoming the owner of all the things and you'd be super duper rich

And then having to refill 100 generators every week

[pine basin]

I did that when they shut down the mega tribes legacy servers. It’s impossible to use those saves to host a solo game. A dedicated server is needed.

[vital jetty]

That's to be expected tbh. you're taking the save FROM a server after all lol

[grim kestrel]

Not to mention most internet plans don't typically have to upload speed necessary to run a server. You generally will need to check with your provider for a plan that has a larger upload and download plan as well as a good size bandwith especially if you have multiple people on the internet already cause server going to chew up some bandwith.

[tropic crag]

....unless you just LAN it to yourself, lol

[pine basin]

Yeah, I know, just making it clear to anyone thinking about doing that

[tropic crag]

Fair enough, I was mostly replying to Joe in terms of the upload/download speeds

[pine basin]

But even a basic notebook can run one single map. Which is impossible is to host and play a fully built map in the same machine.

[pine basin]

Oh, it wasn’t specifically to you 😂

[tropic crag]

Fair enough lol

[blissful perch]

@tropic crag please carry on this design conversation, lest I be forced to only read dull repetitive content about release dates

[tropic crag]

Uhhhhhhh idk what to say you pretty much got it all right there lol

[blissful perch]

Should I say wrong stuff more to get conversation going then 😂

[tropic crag]

And if anyone wants to argue otherwise, I direct them to Grounded, Rust, or any other survival game released recently to thunderous applause (Raft is another, but idk if it has automation later on or not, but probably)

[tropic crag]

Maybe that's the move, get controversial and then delete the post once people engage and agree with them 🤣

[blissful perch]

S tier mind games tbh

[tropic crag]

I'm learning, gettin better 😂

[blissful perch]

Raft automated basic resources using those nets

[tropic crag]

Ok, wasn't sure as I haven't played in like... a year and a half, on a buddie's PC 😅

[gentle kiln]

when new official severs come out on asa well they all comeout at once for island or will be like 35 realse at start another 35 12hr later then another 35 12hr later or all at once?

[pine basin]

TBD

[tawdry sequoia]

Is there any concern that ASA using Overwolf and being forever linked to the consoles will limit the availble mods that PC can get? I know with the steam workshop there is literally 1000s of mods, tho I admit the vast majority wont ever see the light of day. It was always a great feeling to find a hidden gem in that abyss.

Is it possible that cause theres mods on console that Sony/Microsoft will have Veto powers on what mods can and can't come to overwolf and potentially blocking that mod on PC as well? Idk how strict or loose mod content is on Overwolf compared to steam, just a food for thought.

[plucky mountain]

2 things that need to happen in ark ascended 1st there needs to be a huge stego nerf and second they need to delete abb gen 1 and gen 2 because only rats and ppl to lazy to grind main those servers

[astral basin]

can someone explain me wtf is happening with ARK 😂 I came back after 2 years of playing ARK survival evolved, and have seen the announcement of ARK 2 a few years ago obviously, but now, I see all this ARK Survival Ascended stuff and have no idea where that is about. Like, I see that it is some remade ARK in UE5, which all looks better and is better, but like, is it a complete new game just like ARK survival evolved with just better graphics and gameplay, is it a DLC, or how does that work? And why did they announce ARK 2 back in 2020 and now suddenly there is something like an ARK 1.5, instead of fully working on ARK 2, just wondering. I absolutly love ark and will buy any next ARK they release, no mather if its 1.5 or 2.0, but I am just trying to understand what is happening

[grim kestrel]

ASA
ARK: Survival Ascended will now be a standalone package released on every platform (PC Windows/Steam, Xbox Series S/X, and PlayStation 5) at $39.99.

The package will include the following pieces of content built-in (not sold separately), with each remastered and altered for the next-generation on Unreal Engine 5: w/Cross Play and Cross Platform Modding

The Island (Released at Launch at the end __October 2023__)
Survival of the Fittest: The Island
Scorched Earth (Release in December)
Ragnarok & Aberration (Released by Q1 2024)

Extinction, Genesis Part 1, Genesis Part 2, and all the community-created maps are also to be released over time in 2024 (Fjordur, Ragnarok, The Center, Lost Island, Valguero, Crystal Isles)

---

ARK 2
Coming day one to Game Pass
Console ● PC
No official release date ● Currently slated target for 2024

Cross-platform modding and next-gen tech
User-created Mods & Maps are now distributed across all platforms, including modded unofficial servers! Using Unreal Engine 5, new lighting systems enable photorealistic day-night cycle, with real-time generation of ambient lighting & shadows.

Best-in-class, third-person action
Advanced character traversal mechanics like mantling, free-climbing, parkour, sliding, and swinging! An emphasis on ‘Souls-like’ melee combat driven by player skill, with target-lock, blocks, dodges, combos, staggers, and special attacks.

Dynamic alien world
Explore a mysterious world where events happen independent of your presence, and your choices to interact with these occurrences yield rewards or challenges. Hostile ‘Aratai’ hunt you riding tamed creatures, seeking to drive out human interlopers.

Rearchitected gameplay
Construct unique gear from distinct modules & materials to customize form & function. Progress on a skill tree filled with abilities, perks, & passives. Animals use dynamic pathfinding to maneuver around obstacles, and hunt by sight, sound, & smell.

(Ark 2 information come from Microsoft Xbox's website where they were given details to advertise.)

[stray elm]

You could've told them to check it out on steam.

[astral basin]

thanks that helps a lot, so basically ARK Survival Evolved will just stay like it always was but a new game (ARK Survival Ascended) is released which is using UE5 and has some gameplay changes

[tropic forge]

ark ascended a.k.a ASA is a Remake of ark survival evolve coming at the end of octuber in early access for 40$ for the first wekk (unless change.... again!) whit all old dlc from ASE and a future new canon dlc that will be for purchase, servers snails made a deal whit nitrato forcing playing only able to deal whit nitrato, mods will be by overwolf whit free mods and premium mods and at launch will be the island map only whit no transfers until scorch earth is release

[stray elm]

Yeah, ASE (survival evolved) will be the original ARK-1, while ASA (survival ascended) is a remake of ASE.
ARK-2 being later down the line

[astral basin]

all right thanks guys, appreciate it

[stray elm]

To be fair, they've only have lowered the price.
So another change to like 35$ would be a open welcome for my wallet.

[tropic forge]

to be fair still high price and risk for a early access

[astral basin]

To me that'd be fair too, as long as its just the same game with the same maps, just with better graphics and some gameplay changes, I'd see most other games just update the old game for that kind of changes

[stray elm]

40$ is kind of standard for for an early-access.
But what risk is it if you already played ASE?
It's 40$ for everything from ASE with new stuff. That's not much at all

[grim kestrel]

$40 ain't bad at all. It will go to $45 after EA

[stray elm]

Yeah, that's basically what it is.
40$ for all ASE content with new stuff slapped ontop of it, with revamped systems. (talks of rebalancing caves, meks, etc.)

[tropic forge]

dont forget they can pull the plug in early access

on many things

[stray elm]

They can.
But the likelyhood of them doing so is low

[tropic forge]

yeh cough... snails cough...

[grim kestrel]

It just sucks won't be able to pre-load it, EA launch day gonna be painful

[stray elm]

Wildcard has threaten Snail so many times that it's funny.
I doubt they'll try to pull much shit on ASA since it's their only reliable source of income.

[astral basin]

where in general is it going to be listed? as on steam I don't seem to find any trace of it

[stray elm]

If Wildcard had no say at all, we would've had pay-to-win shit for ASE, like the indestructible shield that can only be broken by a paid drill.

[tropic forge]

where do you thing ASA came from in the first place

[stray elm]

Jat confirmed there wont be pre orders, so no pre load.

[stray elm]

Jesse, the CEO of Wildcard.

[grim kestrel]

That a question for Bootleg

[astral basin]

aa, so it will just pop-up on steam as early access oneday?

[grim kestrel]

I am getting it on the Series X

[tropic forge]

it should pop on steam to whislist on oct i guess

[stray elm]

Steam has like a two-week pre-launch page policy.
It'll just be like ARK-2 currently on Steam, and just have a 'ready for release' thing until it releases.

[astral basin]

aa yea that was why I was questioning it, because I do see ARK 2 listed but not ARK Survival Ascended

but I assume that will come somewhere in october then

[stray elm]

Yep, so we'll get one for ASA two weeks+ before launch.

[stray elm]

Probably in the end of the beginning of October, I'd imagine.

[astral basin]

yea, well, I guess il be waiting for it then, at least I know what is happening now haha

[stray elm]

Lets say they're releasing it on the 31st of October.
They'd need to make a steampage for it on the 17th.

[astral basin]

yea got it, thanks

[stray elm]

I can send links in here of the Community Crunches that have shown minor stuff from ASA.
There's not a lot, but there's a few in-engine renders of new remade structures.

[astral basin]

I did see those yea, It looked quite good, that was honestly what I was expecting from ARK 2, so I'd be wondering what ARK 2 is going to be then. I just find it quite sad that its just on top of the original ARK survival evolved, with the old maps, it sounds more logic to either skip that until ARK 2 or update ARK survival evolved to be on UE5, but I guess its not the first time ARK did strange things 😛

[stray elm]

The original plan was just to port ASE to UE5, but that concept was scrapped.
They wanted make something more, and completely remake ASE with their now 8-years of experience.
And ASA is probably to help fund ARK-2.

[astral basin]

I'd imagine the hype for ARK-2 being less if it turns out to be a lot like ASA, so thats why I'd not see the logic of releasing a UE5 ARK let alone making it standalone

[tropic forge]

ark 2 is nothing like ark 1

[astral basin]

do we know anything about that yet?

[stray elm]

Cause things cost money to do. And lots of it.
ARK-2 also is basically nothing like ASE or ASA, its combat is even confirmed to be more souls-like.

[tropic forge]

check ark 2 steam page theres a little debrief of what ark 2 is

[stray elm]

Yes, ARK-2 has a steam page

[grim kestrel]

And it should help them see how everything responds in UE5 so it could help polish out some areas for Ark 2

Plus I think this was necessary so ASA and Ark 2 can be both active. That way people who can't live without tek have ASA and others can move on to Ark 2 lol

[astral basin]

aa I see