#ark-2

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fast isle
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Hatzegopteryx

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Bats away dinos from ur tame

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Pretty fun thing I voted it number 1 because we literally only have like 3 types of fliers

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Pts quetzals wyverns and ig griffins

tribal chasm
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I fobbed the first level 180 Tek quetzal I saw, 30 minutes upon their release. God scammed post roll stats...behemoth gates, turrets, to protect a tame o.O

steel valley
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lol first time I hear Hatzegopteryx

pine basin
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I would say it’s not always exciting because of the bugs and poor AI DesmoSip

tepid ore
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Because cryos give them the option to make ratholes, yes

fast isle
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I want another big flying creature that has a use, getting rid of cryos also = more reason to have a quetz again

tepid ore
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Without cryos people would have to make land bases, like they should

blissful perch
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I hate the “damage ruins a tame” mechanic, because it’s so outdated to when everything was KO tames. And it ruins innovative tames

blissful perch
fast isle
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Anyway brb I’m playing a for honor match

tepid ore
steel valley
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Why dont we have an ASA channel here? This is clearly for ARK 2 lol

tepid ore
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It was still more common to have land bases, and in some instances more practical

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Not as stark a difference as now

steel valley
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I think ppl used the tek obis for in cave transports even b4 the transporters

tepid ore
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The 3x cave damage of then really did make a huge difference

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I think if they add more issues with building in a cave, like maybe to where to you cant build fires or furnaces of any kind, we could see more land bases

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I feel like everyone should be pushed to build land bases

blissful perch
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cries in hatred for mutation capping

tepid ore
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Mutation capping was a necessity to prevent infinite health pool dinos

blissful perch
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…what

steel valley
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The 20 mutations?

blissful perch
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Mutation capping MAKES nearly infinite health pools

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If they go to that in Asa I’ll join general VC here and cry tears of joy

pine basin
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This. Land bases won’t survive much in 2023.

steel valley
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lol wtf

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is this the normal on pvp these days?

split dove
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## Cries in balanced dino stat-system enjoyer

pine basin
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Unless they change the boss system, it would be bad

blissful perch
steel valley
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170k HP stegos

split dove
pine basin
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Not when you are a solo player and has to deal with bugs and glitches

tribal chasm
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Again this is where a tribe based imprint or bloodline can come into play, would almost like a bounty too if a tribe's lines got too big / advantageous

steel valley
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You can do it. But you need to prepare a lot

blissful perch
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In fairness, there could and arguably should be a solo difficulty designed for ark’s bosses. Since SP is a commonly played gamemode

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You can argue that difficulty should have less rewards, or shouldn’t be available in MP, but there SHOULD be catering to solos

steel valley
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Bosses spawn with a different hp pool for solos or many ppl I think

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The more ppl and dinos the bigger the hp pool not??

split dove
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no

pine basin
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I mean, I’m not saying you are wrong, but WC needs to balance the game in way they won’t spoil the game to some. And I’m sure there’s a lot of people playing solo, duos or trios. And those need highly mutated Dinos.

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But to be fair I would just want a new boss meta

steel valley
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Solos can always trade stuff or play as groups when needed

pine basin
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I don’t want them to balance. I’m just saying why I think they never cared to cap the mutations harder

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What I would really want is a new boss meta

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Genesis missions are way more interesting in my opinion

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As an example

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That one where you have to fight the waves of Dinos is nice

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The way it is now people just use highly mutated Dinos or some of the arenas glitches

blissful perch
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I wish you had to buy armor in those missions - since you can bring capped armor and that makes it lame. Or at minimum…inconsistent

steel valley
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I think I just kept my game interesting by switching to pve and doing all the things myselfe. No buying super dinos or advanced shit like these tek farming dinos. Kinda sad that you have to resort to that kind of gameplay to keep it interesting. Its like fallout 4 with installing some stalker mods 🤔

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Are there high lvl Tek Rexes on the island? Its gonna take forever to find a pair over lvl 130..

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Not even talking about good stats lol

winged dome
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Yes, but random chance. Story maps have painful level distributions

steel valley
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O wait Tek dinos scale with 6lvl so its lvl 156..

steel valley
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Like megatheriums or theris or so

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Or gigas omg.. now they share their spawns with that new big dino

tribal chasm
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They said they were going to make changes but yes, otherwise it's like 0.3% for a dino to be max level dino on The Island currently

steel valley
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I played some island the last weeks and its a pain..

tribal chasm
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Already on Center and such it is 1/1000 for the Rex spawn to be Tek + level 180, on Island it is I guess hmm
1 in 6666 rex spawns would be a level 180 Tek Rex on The Island lol

steel valley
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Omfg thats grim

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And no cross server transfers at the start right?

desert swallow
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ya but on Center you can farm rex island.

tribal chasm
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yes that too, no forced spawns really aside from Carno Island to a degree

steel valley
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On island you can serarch on carno island. Ppl will build on it no question tho.. thats the bad side of pve

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Ppl blocking spawns. Like beaver dams..

tribal chasm
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Well given current rates, beaver dams almost irrelevant -- snails / chitin slotcaps make paste easy + dams irrelevant very early on

steel valley
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You are right I guess. Ark used to be stone collecting simulator and grinding cp was bad

tribal chasm
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I misread what you said, sorry. 'like' beaver dams, nvm lol.
I was going to say about the solo tribes subject though, yes the game should not be balanced around solo, but not megatribes at the same time...it would be nice if 10 player* tribes can take on Megatribes without technicalities currently seen

steel valley
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Also we have frogs and the swamp cave

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Megatribes will always be stronger because you can have someone online at any given time

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You would need to play on a offline raid protected server

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I mean if you are 5ppl and all are from the us on us time thats pretty much it. As soon as transfers are a thing you get rolled

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They need to somehow overthink the transfer system for pvp. The 15min timer stops no one really

untold ingot
steel valley
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I think they are there to stop ppl from transferring out with loot right after a raid

pine basin
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If you want to redo everything on a pve server the hard way, it’s fine to not use everything the game has. But if you are in a recently wiped unnofficial pvp server, you better use everything in the game to get strong asap

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There are several ways to play the game. Wildcard is more concerned to balance the game for the official servers (which is expected)

blissful perch
# pine basin There are several ways to play the game. Wildcard is more concerned to balance t...

They don’t though - they basically have treated ASE as a prototype game where random stuff is added. Balance is usually only done in the worst case scenario failures, such as creatures outranging turrets. I think it works out for us, since they have tons of data for asa and ark 2…but let’s not pretend officials were the target of balance. Because basically nothing was…stuff was just added if it felt fun to add

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usually it’s a couple hotfixes and that’s about it. Very rarely are balance changesdone outside of that, and it’s often clunky. Hard to blame WC if you can’t delete tames structures or gear to balance things…but the point stands

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Maybe those new games can have better constructed frameworks to have live balance changes to creatures without risk of deleting them

desert swallow
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What? is there proof of that anywhere?

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should have recorded someone saying it. Could the person have been lying to sound special?

desert swallow
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I've seen enough to know that there is a good chance it's true. Was just wondering if we could verify.

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no I mean, see it in action through video or sound byte, would be good content for social media peeps

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ya I think the tea thing was getting really hard indisputable proof like we got not too long ago. That was blatantly obvious without much wiggle room for them to explain away

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This more current event was much more documented and had long time members of the community involved. I don't doubt it happened, but this most recent one was much more documented.

fast isle
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Nooblets made another video absolutely boycotting snail games

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I’m confused at how they ran out of 1.3 billion dollars though

untold ingot
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They didn't

lavish coral
fast isle
# untold ingot They didn't

They are literally taking loans from nitrado to pay for ASA to be released before 31st of October so they can make enough money to finish ark 2

south lance
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the nitrado loan is like 4 million?

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its a good bit but not crazy

untold ingot
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Also, did snail ever get a billion? I don't think they ever reached that

south lance
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maybe across the past 8 years

lime forge
split dove
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the only way his dead channel brings in more than 1000 a month

tribal chasm
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So if the problem is that once groups get to a certain size (ie megatribe size) the game becomes fundamentally unplayable due to server limit, mechanic bypasses, and otherwise unenforceable behaviour, why does it continue to exist

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When a small group cheats they all get dev wiped/global banned, but because there's 70+ members suddenly it becomes impractical to dev wipe/global ban them all, so cheating is given more leeway

brave granite
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its being pressured into releasing on the 31st October or earlier

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nope

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they're probably gonna keep it until the 31st tbh

nova sonnet
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even without cryopods caves are superior

tribal chasm
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I got the impression they were going to change caves so each has a certain viable method to raid them (ie larger cave entrances, or multiple entrances)

tribal chasm
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I wonder if they will fine tune the consumables/item names in ASA so that they more accurately represent what they actually do. Ie they have 'Simple Shotgun Ammo' which has no other alternative, and many consumables have downright misleading descriptions

versed cosmos
pine basin
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That’s very true, because I knew some of them.

south lance
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idk what the exact number is

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but even with sales most people probably spent around 60 dollars on ark unless they bought in the years after genesis

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the average there id guess is around 30 tho

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yeah that makes sense

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a couple million for asa is reasonable but i have no clue if itll even reach 100 million in sales for the next 5 years

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i know ark players will buy it

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but theres probably only a few hundred thousand total that still play i think

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so either people who quit ages ago or entirely new people need to come in

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i hope thats a huge population

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i dont want servers to be dead

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or wildcard going broke lol

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though i still think asa is just money to bridge over the gap towards ark2

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the snail games bad pr is gonna hurt chances of new players coming in

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its a decent deal

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but since the snail games thing blew up everywhere across yt im concerned about new players

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and the other youtubers like asmongold basically made the game itself look even more shit than it actually is

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idk a lpt of the sales ark made was with people who only kinda liked the genre but quit a few months in

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basically people hust trying it out

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my wifi died

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proofs mostly inductive, most games spike in population early on and the majority of that pop leaves in a few months. Thats still sales tho

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im surprised ark actually gained so many 10s of millions of players in the years following release but maybe the games special and thatll mean itll be able to weather out the bad pr and people will still check it out later

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its an inductive proof :p

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observe phenomena, see a rule holding, assume it works for stuff you havent seen yet but should be similar

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basically all of science is built on induction tho

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like sure, its nothing like a mathematical proof, but i doubt youd want to argue whether scientific facts are proven truly

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my test already happened

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thats what prior game releases were

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like almost all of them

tropic forge
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damn all this talk for a remaster/remake early access of the same game thats still on

south lance
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nothing else to talk about in regards to ark

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i assume all the tests follow the necessary conditions for whatever rule im trying to infer. Maybe the tests are invalid because my assumption of that is faulty, or maybe my assumption that ark experiencing similar conditions is faulty, but if its neither of those then the proof works. You can question the validity of either of those if you want. If the evidence already exists tho you dont need to actually release new games to test this.

fading parrot
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When is ark 2 coming out

split dove
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atm end of/late 2024

fading parrot
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Oh I thought it was next month lol

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Haven’t been playing for a while

pine basin
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In some countries you can get Ark + all dlcs for less than 30 dollars. Even in the US you can get for way less than 60 dollars for a long time.

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I don’t know, that’s a lot. Not saying he’s lying, but I don’t how they could get to those numbers.

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But I guess if it’s true, those might be just revenues. Net profit must be lower than that.

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Yeah, that makes sense if it’s included all the money they got from Sony, Microsoft and other partners.

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Epic must have paid them a lot for the free Ark gift

quiet verge
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I think epic have an agreement and only pay if people play with it

plucky atlas
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chop chop and get ark 2 out

worldly garden
split dove
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it's gonna launch first for PC and next gen Xbox consoles, so you're gonna have to wait longer for it to hit PS5 as it's gonna be a early access launch alongside a timed exclusive period deal between Xbox and Wildcard. and no i don't want something rushed out to meet a deadline as a worse product, we've had enough of those these last few years DesmoSip

prisma acorn
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im buying 4 copies myself for me, friends and my community

slender marsh
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does this nitrado / ASA exclusive hosting agreement know if that means we can't host our own hardware privately for others to join? like i have a server in my house i keep for ark 1, i'd like to just rollover to ark 2/asa

stray elm
slender marsh
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I'm ok with that. I will be hosting on my own hardware, and i don't caer about the pro/rent stuff. if i CAN host on my own hardware, i'll upgrade. If i CANNOT then i will return the game and wait.

worldly garden
slender marsh
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i'll say it's been nothing but at best tepid news so most of the people i play with is currently against buying the new games, but im sure if it's playable time iwll win them over.

dim plinth
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hey lads, I heard people say the whole new ark thing is a complete scam. Any thoughts on that ?

tropic crag
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Don't listen to everything you hear on the internet, especially for a product that isn't even offered yet lmao

slender marsh
# dim plinth hey lads, I heard people say the whole new ark thing is a complete scam. Any tho...

so, any current game charges monthly fees to playonline. ark forever hasn't. and that's financially caught up to them, sure. that has informed some of the decisions around ark 2 and ASA, absolutely. does the company leaving short term money earning actions like subscripitions and microtransactions on the table for 8 years, then running low on money so they're selling a grapihcal update, that make that update a scam?

untold ingot
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Add in that said graphical update is literally all that the community was begging for lol

dim plinth
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Its a new Engine, I dont think they can port all their feature code over as is. So it will not be just an graphical update I assume, at least not as in we will have all the features the game offers rn in the new version. Or am I wrong?

untold ingot
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You aren't wrong

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It's way more than just a graphical update

stray elm
untold ingot
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From what they say it'll have a lot of new features

dim plinth
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3rd person c4 through wall and all that good shit

blissful perch
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I see where you’re going but I do want to state that science tests can’t prove anything correct - it simply tests if a hypothesis is incorrect. It works best to find things that aren’t true…because there’s always the chance something is tested later that proves an initial study wrong

dim plinth
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I mean to be fair, its a great concept, and a shitton of features. That was a lot of work.

dim plinth
blissful perch
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RMTs are a huge problem that needs to be…better addressed

dim plinth
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what are rmts ... im not american

split dove
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Real Money Trades, trading in-game stuff for real money within the black market of Ark

blissful perch
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Real money trade

dim plinth
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aww thanks, true

blissful perch
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Extremely against TOS, but like I’ve said before…asa and ark 2 need more enforcement on officials if officials are gonna pop

dim plinth
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but how they make money then 😄

split dove
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They won't pop for long, now that consoles are gonna have cross-platform mods and crossplay

split dove
dim plinth
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u sure about that

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anyway, they can just do what csgo and pubg did and sell skins

slender marsh
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there's a lot of talk about snail games/tea tribe/publishers and devs crossting the streams. i don't play official so i don't care.

dim plinth
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the pay to win aspect was also very annoying

slender marsh
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all i care about is if i can host my own so i don't have to deal with them

dim plinth
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well they made a deal with nitrado

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not too sure if you will be able to host ur own servers

slender marsh
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the latest scuttlebutt is you can put them on your own hardware, but you can't rent from anyone but nitrado

dim plinth
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thats fair

slender marsh
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that's what they said on the community crunch, i'm hearing. i run my own hardware, i don't care about nitrado. I'm more worried about the mod situation at that point.

dim plinth
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why is that, they said they would make modding and downloading mods easier

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I just hope the fix the stupid filesystem based char and item storage thats so 1980

ripe cedar
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Even the article published by nitrado clearly states this

dim plinth
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tldr, thx

blissful perch
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right, so on that part I think we can agree that an assertion based on a sample size of 1 is not a strong argument

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however, I do think bada is correct - there are many games with sale analytics that have a large initial peak and smaller peaks when massive followings are exposed to the game. The same is often true of CCU values

dim plinth
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guess it is very hard to do proper test as the environment is pretty complex. They should do a bugreport feature which you can use ingame, that takes memory dumbs or whatever UE5 has to offer and goes (maybe not straight) in their scrum backlog

blissful perch
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being unique is more a marketing thing than a sales model

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ark also has no fiscal system tied to the service beyond marketing - there is no value in a long term player beyond the assurance to others that the service is "active", unless those players are marketing via content

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a player who buys the game and plays it for one day is as financially valuable as one who buys it and plays for six years, as long as neither produces promotional content

dim plinth
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they had a marketing campaign? well they certainly made a lot of sales by banning pvp tribes for abusing their bugs (they get banned and buy a new account, that kinda thing).

dim plinth
blissful perch
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that entire youtube channel is marketing lol

dim plinth
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really and what did they do for it except for making the game

blissful perch
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DLCs are a soft form of "pay over time"...but I'm not entirely sure how that compares to a subscription. I'd have to spend time on those numbers

dim plinth
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its rather advertising

blissful perch
dim plinth
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interesting

blissful perch
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many games also benefit from external marketing - ie a big youtuber playing and promoting a game

dim plinth
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I thought marketing would be something you as a company do to fool people to buy your shit

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whatever what do i know

desert swallow
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fool people lol

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fooling people is fraud and can land you in court in a law suit.

dim plinth
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well not every product is bad per se

desert swallow
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marketing is promoting the features of your product to make it appearling to buy.

dim plinth
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ur right

desert swallow
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and getting your brand recognition out there.

dim plinth
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same thing but sounds way better

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still something you actively do right

desert swallow
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yes

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and it's worth it

dim plinth
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haha no comment

desert swallow
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lets say you make something and put it online, you might make a few thousand if you are an unknown brand. Spend 20k on marketing can net you 100's of thousand or more.

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you can do free marketing if you have social media presence, but it takes time to build that up

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and time = money

dim plinth
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maybe, i dont know, i feel like people talk about good products with other people. And it goes its way from there. Not saying facebook is a good product, but ive never seen ads for facebook when it came out. Actually we knew about it in germany already althought it was not even available here

desert swallow
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that's a viral thing. That rarely happens.

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in most cases you have to put together professional marketing material and pay to get it out there.

dim plinth
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but ye marketing might help getting faster in the market although your product is just good

desert swallow
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almost always if it's a quality product

dim plinth
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also there are people like zuckerberg who might just copy your product and promote it and then ud be screwed

desert swallow
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maybe, but if they can buy it they'll do that first

dim plinth
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that the biggest argument for marketing. unless you have a patent

desert swallow
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it's cheaper to buy then to copy in a lot of cases.

dim plinth
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dont want to talk down what you do brother

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i live in my own little weird utopia

desert swallow
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some of it sounds dystopian.

dim plinth
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well ...

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that why the bear is blue and looks mad

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I just wanted to say something that does not makes sense as well to make you feel better 😄

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ok i gotta go, my mom is mad

stray elm
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It's everyone who wants to rent a server/can't make a server-machine.

stray elm
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I...I don't even get the joke.
The most a DLC has been was 35$ USD, and that was for two DLC's.
Why would any DLC be 60$ USD?

lime forge
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Bros just mad he spent all his allowance on his Xbox and can’t afford the dlc now

stray elm
lime forge
stray elm
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I believe they stated it will be.

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Though, still very scummy for Snail (no surprise) to force us to use 'the' shittiest server-providers out there.

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Like out of all the deals they went with, why in the hell did they go for Nitrado and not Gportal?

rancid harness
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Hosting a server personally from your own machine will be available day 1

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Hosting through nitrado will be available day 1

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I'm really excited to see if the UE5 update changes anything about the game. It'd be cool if they redesigned a lot of the caves and landscape. Made the game sort of new again

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Will be interesting to see Life's Labyrinth remade.

rancid harness
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Yep. It's great for nitrado. I'm hoping Nitrado is able to provide a stellar service for ASA.

tropic forge
lime forge
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Yes

prisma acorn
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i mean most of his hopes will, they have a roadmap of which maps will be released when and so far they havent pushed back any times from the roadmaps release

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in 8 months we should have about half the maps

rancid harness
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Because if we're talking about the labrynth, no lol

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But cave redesigns could easy happen in 8 months.

tropic forge
# rancid harness What hopes we lookin' at?

"I'm really excited to see if the UE5 update changes anything about the game. It'd be cool if they redesigned a lot of the caves and landscape. Made the game sort of new again"

prisma acorn
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im sure they wont rework caves completely but they'll def look really different, new models for rocks and cave walls and what not

rancid harness
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Lol yes, I think that could happen in 8 months.

nova sonnet
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please dont change island ice cave💀💀

rancid harness
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Not a complete reimagining of the caves, but changes that make the experience new again.

tropic forge
rancid harness
prisma acorn
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Everything is getting changed**

By that I mean just about everything is getting a new model from the looks of the comparisons so while it'll have a similar layout im sure it will look very different

tropic forge
prisma acorn
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also that delay was before the roadmap

rancid harness
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It's Ark, we getting delays lol

prisma acorn
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they released the roadmap and said, october ASA island and december SE

rancid harness
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No shame in admiting it.

prisma acorn
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yeah id rather it look good and not have mesh holes then be buggy and unplayable

rancid harness
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Same tho

tropic forge
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thats most likely you gonna get it

rancid harness
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Hopefully meshing will work differently in the new engine, and be harder to exploit.

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Though we'll always have aimbots and esp, sadly.

prisma acorn
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i mean, meshing works because its where two meshes meet , the only real way to fix that is to have a seamless terrain but the issue with that is you cant really cull the unrendered meshes so it takes a performance hit. i honestly cant think of any open world games where you have a seamless terrain and the only reason we have a issue with it is items/creatures that can abuse the connections to get under

rancid harness
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Right. I'm curious if there's a possible change in the new physics engine that could be "smart enough" to make it harder to do.

mint swan
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They just need better kill barriers for the mesh

nova sonnet
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WAITER! More kill barriers please 😋

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I remember when kill barriers made ext unplayable for legit players

stoic shadow
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When is ark ASA going to show on steam?

tepid ore
# mint swan They just need better kill barriers for the mesh

If i remember correctly thats half of the shabang with ue5, not meshable so no kill barriers. Also ini is closed in asa, so people who cheat are going to have a much harder time creating their nonsense and going undetected, also no straight ini abuse

tepid ore
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Pretty sure it was mentioned very early, and has been most recently mentioned by wildcard in the whole nitrado server modding debacle

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I dont believe it was

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Theres more that gets talked about outside of cc, i believe to only source ive seen is screenshots of messages with a dev

untold ingot
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It would be fairly simple to make an ini that wasn't hackable though

tepid ore
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But whats the point of an open ini if they’re doing their own mod system

untold ingot
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Ini for mods and ini for setting are totally different files lol

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The ones people use to hack are not the ones you use for mods

ancient star
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I just want like dino cross breeding to be introduced so i can be a mad scientist like a thyla and mega cross or ptera and quetz cross you know fun stuff. show up to raid with another clan be like check my pimp ride. It can eat veggie cakes regain health hit hard when its mad and carry all my stuff when i die.

mild widget
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That sounds unlikely

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Interesting dream though

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I think it’s extremely proper that you have different dinosaurs for different tasks

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Combining them all would kill a huge part of the game imo

lime forge
pine basin
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If mutations broke the game, what would crossbreed do… ☠️

stone cedar
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so are they going to put a workbench in the game that funcitons like a maewing since it's unlikely theyll add maewings to the island? solo official pve'ers need it to have any kind oof ability to play

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unless you are retired or something lol

lime forge
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Holy shit it’s Highmarshal Stormblessed

stone cedar
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Best series ever!

lime forge
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Sooo good

pine basin
stone cedar
pine basin
lime forge
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I wouldn’t be super surprised if they added non native tames to some maps

stone cedar
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yeah. If they announce a quality of life change similar to how maewings assist with raising baby dinos when you cant log on for 8 hours, ill pre order ha

stone cedar
mild widget
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Honestly I never liked anything ark past extinction tbh so I can appreciate just the island

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Gen 1 was the start of ungood

astral token
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Genesis (both) were beautiful concepts

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Fucked up by the worthless execution

mild widget
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Aberration is peak ark I cannot wait to play that on ue5

astral token
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Gen1 has some of the best maps in their respective biomes

pine basin
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If those are coming to ASA, maybe we won’t really need the other maps to have some of the creatures

stone cedar
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It was very unbalanced for sure ha. I enjoyed the completely different playstyle and build up tho for gen 2. if that map had come before being the final last map I wouldnt have been happy. I enjoyed the missions, they just needed to be optomized better

lime forge
astral token
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Tell me does any map have a Volcano as hot as Gen1? A bog as murky as Gen1? A snow as cool as Gen1? An ocean as vast as Gen1? Let's not forget space

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I loved Gen1, only the broken tp and missions were big problems

mild widget
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I’m extremely excited for just island pvp though. I really hope there isn’t engrams for other maps and it’s just pure island on drop

astral token
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It is 👍🏽

mild widget
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Beautiful

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Will definitely use some pto to play that lmao

stone cedar
# lime forge I wouldn’t even say Maewings are that big of a difference outside of anything ex...

yeah i play on official. With work and a family, I can only log on early in the morning and later in the evenings. It leaves a large window of certain death and makes the game unplayable. Most of arks early player base are likely in my same shoes by now. It'd be a smart move to introduce a quality of life so long time players in our situations can still play effectively. Mega tribes is just farming and not very fun at all. Solo or with RL buddies is the best way to play PVE.

mild widget
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I recommend renting your own server honestly

stone cedar
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i hear that toast. The game is 100x better with other players and a server wide market ha.

mild widget
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Unless you like the commodity of it all ofc but that’s the best way I’ve found to pve with friends

stone cedar
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ive already beat the game in its entirety on official, i just play for the social aspect at this point

mild widget
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I just play to try to recreate memories from 5 years ago lol

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Bit hard now though because that was pvp and now I have a job so I struggle

stone cedar
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the nostalgia!! Seriously the most genius idea for a game. I remember telling a friend ages ago when i was playing halo that they should have a survival dino game. They did an awesome job.

mild widget
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I do love ark

stone cedar
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just needs the new coding and being rebuilt from the ground up. Ive heard something about their backend or front end programers being really good but not the others. hopefully they have remedied that over the years

mild widget
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Amazing concept and ideas handicapped by modern technology

stone cedar
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absolutely! anyways im turning in. have fun!

stone cedar
mild widget
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Have a gn

prisma acorn
mild widget
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I never liked se like that but I can see why people did

nova sonnet
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(after the balance changes of course)

nova sonnet
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although i do miss manas being able to dismount people on freeze (cannot be countered 😂 )

thorny tundra
mild widget
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Could beam people on scorched all the way from island stg

untold ingot
stray elm
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Holy fuck, Raq changed his pfp?

nova sonnet
untold ingot
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Its the falloff

desert swallow
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well actually....

ripe cedar
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🤓

harsh spear
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🤓 actually

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anything new for asa ?

stray elm
harsh spear
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what deal ?

stray elm
# harsh spear what deal ?

Basically Snail and Nitrado made a contract that ASA will only allow Nitrado servers, and you can only rent from Nitrado.
Though private server-boxes are still an option. (even though that's still fucking dumb, since not everyone knows hardware to make a good server-box.)

leaden lion
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dam

stray elm
leaden lion
stray elm
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Yerp

harsh spear
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ive heard ark is like 80% of snails revenue

stray elm
harsh spear
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some people speculate that they are doing asa to fund ark 2

stray elm
harsh spear
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whether thats true or not i cant tell but i hope that the wildcard team is in dev control

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its weird we havent seen anything when the game is supposed to come out in 1-2 months

stray elm
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Starfield hasn't ramped their marketing till a few days ago, and it's coming out in like two weeks

tribal chasm
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Handfeed for 2 hours vs 1 second claim baby, huge difference

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It's pretty much how we got to the point today, people go 'well it was possible before, just time consuming and/or tedious' when in reality it serves as an important filter required for balance

stray elm
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I hate loud-minorities.

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It's why they stopped the funny ASA in-engine reveals.

leaden lion
stray elm
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Like, the amount of detail it has was fucking insane

leaden lion
stray elm
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Right?

stray elm
# leaden lion I thought the tree was for ark 2 when I first looked at it

It also disproved my suspiction of an issue.
One issue I had with them changing the assets was that they weren't going to keep the artistical theme of the original-assets.
This is fine for story-maps, since they can just remake the whole area to make it align with the new-assets. But with custom-maps like Rag, they might've used the sloped-tree for the environment and now Wildcard (before the tree was revealed) might've made that asset more straightened, making the theme of those areas broken.
Seeing how they're literally just improving the original-assets was a nice.

leaden lion
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I would assume that they would be putting more thought into things like trees as I believe that we are actually going to be able to interact with the foilage as well as bushes

stray elm
desert swallow
fast isle
ancient star
# lime forge That would require them to make so many new dinosaurs. Thousands of them. No way...

I know they could start with one type of dino not saying stego with giga i'm saying like creatures make it an x pac feature so first x pac you get to cross mammals small dire wolf thyla for the climp run and track. make it look like tazmanian wolf kinda slow but things to unlock over time. say you have to breed 1k dinos 2k then 3k. like progression games. you dont have to do it to win the game but can do it later when content is over and keep players interested to be honest breeding kept me playing for over a year alone. go to cave get arked fall under map lose everything. go farm replace breed imprint repeat. over and over and over. breeding and color hunting events became more fun than content.

tropic crag
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So you want them to double down on the timesink breeding mechanic, basically

Hmmmmmm

Tbh sounds like it'd be better as a mod lol

carmine folio
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Is it true itll have crossplay

split dove
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yes

tribal chasm
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They should add a new tek item, where you can throw in a couple of tamed-dinos and sacrifice them for a chance of a stat-reroll dino.
Ie you are hunting for a particular stat, but keep getting stupid things like 45 movement speed. Throw 2 tamed ankies into the blender, out comes a new 'tamed' anky with random stats. A form of bad luck protection, if you will
Idk just bothers me sometimes how it can take me soooo long to get even basic stats on a dino. I shouldn't have to tame 50 level 140+ dinos to get 35+ points in the stat (say melee)

manic panther
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I like that idea, or it could be like the rhyno pheromone

nova python
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when will be the release ASA?

winged dome
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Release window is still October

nova python
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I'm already organizing a mega tribe 😈

tribal chasm
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I hope they also can release a gamemode with capped tribes too >.> I ain't about that megatribe life personally

nova sonnet
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smalltribes

winged dome
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As long as Alliances or similar mechanics exist, tribe size limits/caps are largely irrelevant

nova sonnet
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smalltribes will probably be a thing

prisma acorn
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you dont even need alliances, just know whos in what tribe

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small tribes has megatribes because people unofficially work together like a single tribe

orchid karma
ripe cedar
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Yeah i dont think they are telling us anything until at least late September

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I mean because there is no dlc (yet)once the steam page goes up there may be recommended specs which would include space

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That might be on or super close to launch day though

tribal chasm
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There is a difference between working together indirectly, and working together directly. Having 6v6, or having tribes have to mostly farm their own things, or just being able to join the servers is huge

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I also played small tribes for most of it, the teaming issue lacked enforcement towards the end but otherwise it was a fun time

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Well it's their job not to sell $2 ark accounts to be fair

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HWID works well because if they slip up even once, it can be reflagged ... people act like it is 0 deterrent but it really is

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I will move on from this discussion for now but, I hope they can address some of these issues either in ASA or Ark 2, it got really out of hand in Ark 1 very early on

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It's more I didn't want to go back and forth and spam the channel, but for example regarding HWID bans - there's a reddit thread which would argue my point:
"HWID Bans and Why They Work"

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Bah yes, Reddit because it's a known website and was pre-written text giving the gist of what I was trying to say xD not because it was a source/hard proof directly, just...anyway.
I remember the dudes I happened to tribe with who did spoof, they also slipped up and had their accounts banned constantly. Especially in Small tribes settings. Fun doing all the bosses/imprints again every time on your 'main' account

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It's not a happy way to play the game, it's a good deterrence to anybody who wants to play properly. Survive but not thrive kinda situation, especially if the enforcement was 'more on it'.
It's more a human issue, good luck finding 5 legitimate players to work with. We make fun of dogs because 99% of them will eat the food on the table when you leave the room, but most people will break rules/cheat when given the chance too.

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Trust me I would clone myself 5x and be very happy, I have found 1 dude in entire small tribes who doesn't cheat or RMT. 8 years of Ark -- 1 dude who doesn't break rules like myself

tribal chasm
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It was mostly tribes who lived on the same server, not helping them at all with resources/dinos/bosses, but you know...in communication sometimes (we will live in Ice Cave, you live in Easy UW but otherwise no interaction). 1 month I joined a tribe who had a HWID banned guy yes, not sure what to say other than it was more like an ex-con situation, and he was not able to play properly at all.
I don't know what the rules say about working with people who are Ban Evading, I am sure even your legitimate tribe would fail that criteria on some level

nova sonnet
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what a complicated way to say that smalltribes is a clown fiesta

prisma acorn
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small tribes will only ever work if theres active moderation

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admins watching players go about their business and banning when theres active teaming

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but thats a full time job and no one wants to do it

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yeah but that system can be abused, new world had a good system and people abused it and got legit players banned for botting

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so they could win turf wars

prisma acorn
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You're wildin' if you're going into a pvp server with a unique name. That's a seedbed for some extremely toxic gameplay. Every survival pvp game i've ever played, everyone is 123, and that's not even to avoid report/bans just to not put a target on yourself.

nova sonnet
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i would like to stay as 'Human', no thanks

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committing war crimes unnoticed (LEGAL WAR CRIMES, i am not referring to breaking coc)

prisma acorn
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but with 123, youre safe

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after all, theres safety in numbers

winged dome
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but with 123, youre weak

nova sonnet
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123 is safe and sound

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although i was forced to evolve that way

winged dome
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Paint that target, invite adversity, grow and adapt

nova sonnet
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we were forced to become monsters

winged dome
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That is the way of the True Survivor Bob

nova sonnet
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2019 me: DAMMIT THIS MANA rider just griefed my base!!!
2023 me: I.. I became the mana rider..

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smalltribes forces you to BECOME what you HATE

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literally the worst of ark manifesting as a 6man cluster

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but its fun XD

prisma acorn
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wait, for the snapshot

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do you have to be logged into ark for 12 hours straight online for it to work

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is that what i just read iin announcements

lavish coral
pine basin
light wraith
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Guys I quite don't understand the newest announcement, can someone summary it for me pls

pine basin
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How they will choose the “winners” isn’t clear

light wraith
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Thank u for information

south lance
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dont they have bots that can track steam IDs of people who log

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that and everything else in the current convo

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ik theres bots that track server pop and stuff but idk if its any better than what battlemetrics shows

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but that doesnt show steamid just unique names of characters

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ik theres no way of telling via tribelogs

prisma acorn
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or if theres a live admin

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hint hint wink wink

south lance
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ye tho if server pop is low its theoretically possible to guess

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not ideal, i would be fine with unique users anyhow

prisma acorn
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yeah but it introduces more issues

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when you log off for lunch or something the like everyone will know because you wont be on the list anymore and before your ORP can kick in you'll be wiped

south lance
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i dont think hard orp is popular tbf

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and you can still offline soft orp

prisma acorn
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also unique identifiers makes you easier to find, instead of sifting through the 20 123 bases you just have to find MakoGrim's base

south lance
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if your base is found its generally gone without 24/7 protection

prisma acorn
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are you the type of person who puts all his eggs in one basket or something?

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you never wipe someone? then get offlined by them the same day?

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uploading tames and explosives

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bro i work 10 hrs a day and so do everyone else i play with, lmao

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im not in a 100+ mega tribe

south lance
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actually finding a group of people who wants to play decently is hard

grim kestrel
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This is why only PvP I have ever joined and will ever join is one that had rules of engagement in certain areas and prohibted any base raiding. That way it was almost like arena fights where you just test out how well you build up and can go back to base, lick your wounds, and reevaluate if you lose and come back stronger.

south lance
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just play deathmatch servers then tho

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thats probably why deathmatch servers are so popular on steam imo

grim kestrel
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Nah cause it a good middle ground of PvE and PvP, we get to design a nice looking base and enjoy some casual PvP every now and then. I never did like the concept of having to hide your base

prisma acorn
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Yeah, I can't find 20 people to be on at all times and raid defense, and I'm not getting up at 4 am to defend for 12 hrs or raid for, again 12 hrs

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Which is why people offline

south lance
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time issue

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90% of lfm are asking for 3k+ hours 6hours a day

grim kestrel
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That a condescending message not gonna lie.

south lance
prisma acorn
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When I was unemployed I played 20 hrs a day and constantly raided and defended but I have a full time job and wife now I ain't putting in more then 2-3 hrs a day. And all my friends aren't 18-20 in college anymore and have their own lives so they can't either. Now the pvp is fun as hell

south lance
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i dont think hed have the complaint if getting into committed tribes was easier

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since then offlining and spending 12 hours a day isnt an issue

grim kestrel
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That why I decided to post how I look for PvP unofficial servers, it a nice middle ground to get away from sweat tryhards and find some enjoyable PvP fights occassionally while have a safe homebase to build up

south lance
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ime the trend for more casual tribes is insiding

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and or its just a bunch of friends who want farmers but get offlined cause its 2 noobs who cant even cover off hours

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like a 30 person tribe but 25 are german and the rest are covering off hours, but the leader cant even get people to set up properly so defense is up to people with primitive gear

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ya

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you have to spend spme amount of time searching around

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that time can vary a lot based on luck

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which is probably why theres a small but decent number of people who play solo

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i wonder how that process can get streamlined tho

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in other games you have clan stats available

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idk if that would ever work in ark

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wonder if unique users would help with insiding

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that seems to be a big part of why its slow to actually get into the game, preventing new tribemates from insiding

grim kestrel
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On steam I know there forums similar to how Xbox has looking for group post, that also can be a resource

south lance
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ye but those dont really tell you anything about the tribe youre getting into

grim kestrel
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Yeah true, but it comes down to trial and error. People I play with we usually stick to PvE cause we like to build for esthetics and it just comes down to unofficial server hopping until we find out with moderate rates we're looking for, movement speed we can boost to like 250 at least, a little weight boost, etc.

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Finding a tribe in PvP not much different I would imagine cause I mean it just as much a test for the tribe to see how loyal you are as well as you want to know they're good cause they wouldn't want someone who would stab them in the back

south lance
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i mean, imagine only being able to have fun after a month or 2 of trial and error

blissful perch
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Very honest question - what positive value does being able to see who’s online on a server provide for PvP?

blissful perch
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Yea this was more to connect to the idea than a direct response. Sorry for being unclear

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I was more asking “why would being able to see who’s online be good for PvP”, since it only seems to make it easier for spotting who logs off

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I read it all, dw

grim kestrel
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I think a solution would be a faster offline recognition of base and dinos where you shouldn't be able to be damaged when you go offline and it goes away as soon as you come online.

At least then if and when the decay timer runs out people go in and demolish structures and loot the bags dropped from containers and claim dinos

blissful perch
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I agreed with your take berserker (while reading things)

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However I did wonder about this (archaic?) system of seeing who’s logged on with such ease and why it’s still in the game

south lance
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hard orp doesnt really seem purposeful

grim kestrel
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Believe that would be a very good purpose. Kind of a coward move to just wait for people to go offline

south lance
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in practice it just makes the game full of bases you cant do anything with, if server pop is largely outside your timezone you cant play.

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basically cuts out half the population

grim kestrel
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In the same regard of Alpha tribes just land grabbing with pillars and foundation? That worst than having a lot of bases around

south lance
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and if you are good at defending theres nothing to do after a while if server pop drops to 0-15

grim kestrel
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At least with bases you know someone atleast using the area

south lance
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maybe the issue isnt as bad when servers are more active ig

tribal chasm
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The way Ark worked in like 2018 and earlier was probably the healthiest for 'offline' (disregarding meshing and such).

  • Had to walk dinos across map
  • no way to easily deal with tek turrets
  • healing options were limited, no infinite daeodon heals due to rates
  • raiders required investment on their end
grim kestrel
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It doesn't effect me, I'm just throwing out ice breakers for people who it would apply to can expand do just what you did in this post, put your own statement of how you think it could work. That how updates happen, people throw suggestions in a place where devs are and the devs can weigh what seems to be the most common ground.

blissful perch
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Dollie did say pillaring is a huge issue that WC is trying to solve, so that’s good

mild widget
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Everything else is accurate

tribal chasm
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It is but people didn't always want to drop a tek fob for a single base, tek gens + teleporters costly (especially in smaller groups back then).
I know on Officials/megatribes it was pretty common though

mild widget
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My only issue with ark is cheaters honestly

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I’m sure it’s a lot more complicated than it seems but from a outside perspective I just think wc could hire some admins for official servers and pay them to keep them clean

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Official is so worthless because of it

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Couldn’t be that expensive either

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Doubt you’d have to pay people very much to moderate ark servers considering they’ll live on them for free

blissful perch
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You want as few admins to be actual players on these servers as possible…lest you give a mega access to all the admin commands

mild widget
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Yeah it’s definitely complicated but real people are better than battleeye could ever be

grim kestrel
dreamy star
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When is ark 2 coming out guys

stray elm
rustic raptor
tropic forge
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better yet TBA

grim kestrel
fallen cove
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can someone explain ark ascended to me

winged dome
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Ark1 but with a better engine, crossplay, full modding support, new features and QoL

grizzled blaze
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Curious to see what the cave nerfs are in asa

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So probably took most crouch out of caves

tropic crag
tropic crag
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I'm not saying small tribes is bad or anything, just that official as a whole will not work in the greater sense without active moderation of all servers. It clearly doesn't work without it now, and it won't in the future if they release ASA/Ark 2 with anything but that, the games will be full of rule breaking/exploiting/cheating and the like

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And not the way that it is now, where the admins have to come in and be a character in the world and have no accountability for their actions and are just let loose on the game without any sort of publicly shown logs (which are a setting in the game, btw)

nova sonnet
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don't care about state of official... just.. KEEP CRYOPODS!!!

tropic crag
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I also don't care about official, but could also care less about cryos if a better storage method is implemented 🤷‍♂️

nova sonnet
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i am NOT walking my creatures from one side of the map to the other

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bad memories

inner gazelle
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That was when ark as an actual survival game

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I hate everything post Aberration

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ruined the game for sure, hopefully in ASA they leave cryopods out until extinction is released again

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It was a cheap way to boost server performance

astral tiger
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atleast cryo pods helped with that

thick moat
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idk I feel like it adds to the experience trynna escort the dino u tamed to base with ur tribemates or even alone

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it's def an annoyance for someone just trynna have fun and not have it complicated but at that point just play host/local and go ur way

nova python
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Algum br aí?

astral tiger
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Ive always played on servers i owned myself so i was always able to just shut the server down when noone was on to do imprints

edgy quarry
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ark3when

steep thunder
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Ark 6

grim kestrel
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🤦‍♂️

south lance
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doesnt that gigantoraptor fix imprinting tho

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maewings autoraise raptor autoimprints

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only issue is that its massive so it wont work with ratholes

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im just looking at the community crunch

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seems like itll help with imprinting

midnight eagle
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got a dumb question why isn't ark 1.5 here ? as in Accended, ARK 2 is on the steam page but not the Accended Game, so is it even Real or is everything just a Big F you to the Community ?

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well don't need to pre order to get to look at it as proof 🙂

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ufff

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well so go to steam search ark 2, no release date right, so why wont they just get over it and do the same for accended ? they are simply loosing more and more people

nova sonnet
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there should be separate patches made PVP/PVE

midnight eagle
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well they harmed them selfs by lying 🙂 no offend's SW

split dove
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bud probably thinks game development and coding is super easy and ''could likely do it better than them''

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the overwatch Doomfist paradox, fix one of his 50 active bugs and something worse will come from it

midnight eagle
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they did lie to us. saying the dlc's would be free, but they changed that

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They said, on Ark Accended the DLC's would Come with the game as 1 Price insted of paying 60$ for the game then another 60$ for dlc's

split dove
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NEW PAID EXPENSION PACK

We plan to release a new canonical-story expansion pack for ARK: Survival Ascended that will be available in Q4 2023. This DLC will feature four new creatures, which we’ll share more details about later this year!

mint swan
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I remember this game being just called Ark

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Ignored playing it untill now

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60$ for a new game and all the previous dlc is worth

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when is ark 2 going to be released?

split dove
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so basicly for the price of 2 dlc we get ASA and every DLC now, wich compared to the first offer is much much better

mint swan
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I don't like devs working on two games tbh

split dove
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blame the community outcry that got ASA made for them splitting the team in 2 for ARK 1 (SE and ASA) and the Ark 2 team

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and it keeps both sides of the community happy (until the Ark 1/ASA group gets pissy about literally anything again)

tropic forge
eternal wigeon
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Currently it isn't really viable to build out in the open on official pvp

Ur outside base would get crushed in a 60 vs 10 fight
Real fun

tropic forge
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ence why i keep saying ark aint build for pvp although survival of the fittest makes more sense

eternal wigeon
tropic forge
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still there's too many things that makes ark absurd as pvp

pine basin
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Well, they just need to get rid of those and at the same time make bases defenses stronger

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I mean, it shouldn’t be easy to off-line raid a base that took people months to build

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Defense should be way stronger than offensive tools

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Maybe making possible to claim some land and inside that portion of land you are safer to build

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Not making it 100% pve, but giving defensive boosts inside the claimed land

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But the way it is now, you need to have a lot of time spent just farming and scouting the server you play

eternal wigeon
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But yes, it's all a time sink for pvp

pine basin
eternal wigeon
nova sonnet
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lighting wyvern meta: 💀

pine basin
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Pvpers should have more time to just pvp, without having to worry a lot about main bases, blueprints etc

nova sonnet
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Suit meta☠️☠️☠️

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i remember people in 2018 crying about mana. If only they knew what awaited them..

pine basin
eternal wigeon
pine basin
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But if I’m playing pvp, I want to have some time to pvp, you know?

eternal wigeon
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Like mts has Flame tick dmg reduced, Bola timer down, caves changed etc

pine basin
mint swan
eternal wigeon
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But then again, they don't manage alliances and cheats

pine basin
untold ingot
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Smalls is better for gameplay, but even there you still have to deal with mega tribes

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Official just really doesn't have any moderation, in 2023 the only good pvp is unofficial. And I say that being a long time official pvper lol

eternal wigeon
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My favorite is a clip of a mana dash on 10 players running a boss, all dead

pine basin
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My best experience on Ark was when I played on a 10-20 people tribe. But right now I don’t have the time and will to play the amount of time I used to play.

nova sonnet
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yeah i know (used it multiple times💀)

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but i’d prefer that over the current ark

eternal wigeon
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What the overseer boss?

pine basin
untold ingot
nova sonnet
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dont forget mana used to dismount on freeze

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hehe XD

eternal wigeon
pine basin
untold ingot
winter mica
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Hi 👋
I need help please

untold ingot
winter mica
untold ingot
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I really hope movement speed is nerfed super hard in asa

eternal wigeon
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X 2 doubt

untold ingot
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Yeah, still can dream though

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If all they do is fix the breeding system I'll be happy lol

eternal wigeon
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Think that's the 1 lol
My tribe showed me the clip

tribal chasm
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Manas also hit you through structures (like up to 4 walls away) so even in your fob you weren't safe. Your kit could be auto-looted by a mana that dives on top of your fob, or through a forcefield...

I have suggested a few times but, if they were re-releasing smalls and had interest in putting back the 'no sharing lines' rule, they could implement a new game mechanic which only allows you to breed/claim babies from dinos with your own tribe imprint. Likewise if they made tribes the same across all servers (rather than just the 1 server) it would ... yeah.

Small tribes could have been a lot better, but they would need to do a few things to make it more proper.

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It can reach the point where a tribe has an OP dino line, or heavily mutated dino line, the difference would be you are limited to:
A. Using the dino, or
B. Cloning the dino (for option A again)

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This reminds me, I wonder if they will make ASA indefinite duration again, or wipe the servers every few year(s).
I thought when lines first were reaching 254 points they would have pulled the plug, but they kept going for years

sinful viper
untold ingot
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Because yes

sinful viper
untold ingot
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And yet I can still out run everything on the map with a few levels, and with a maewing I can cross any map in like a minute...

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Not enough of a nerf

blissful perch
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Should be a hard cap of 120% OR no speed buffs at all

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It’s a survival game, and you don’t do any surviving if you just hold W and outrun all the wildlife

nova sonnet
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most people run full health on official

tropic forge
serene onyx
untold ingot
tropic forge
untold ingot
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Well we have diametrically opposed points of view on this.

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Movement speed on dinos needs a severe nerf.

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In fact if that was the only movement speed nerf I would be happy

tropic forge
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damn you must love to spend half a hour to cross a map like central or crystal so on

stone cedar
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an issue of free time ha

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i like the speed

tropic forge
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then you have stam whit more stops to replenish it and really depends what youre doing

untold ingot
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Ark is ridiculously easy with the movement speed

stone cedar
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I agree its too high for pvp. That being said, I think official does a good job of having things moderately balanced as far as human stats go.

tropic forge
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there always be something that someone will pick and complain that makes extremely easy so yeh im done here

untold ingot
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I think it's too high for pve too

stone cedar
stone cedar
# untold ingot I think it's too high for pve too

well, I feel like pve players on average cant spend as much time in the game so speed helps it be slightly less grindy. I switched to pve once I became busy and that was the only way i could still play ark.

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You cant really roll dodge out of attacks like you can in other games. Speed is the only thing keeping you alive in most encounters with dinso

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when your on foot and playing non boosted servers

untold ingot
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The way to make it less grindy would be to change how much blueprints cost

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Movement speed doesn't make it less grindy, it just trivializes the rest of the gameplay

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Note that I am not saying nerf movement speed on something like iguanas, just on stuff like maewing and mana and such

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Things that are severely broken

stone cedar
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fair enough. Theres lots of ways to accomplish a certaini result. I for one like the speed as I get annoyed having to make as many trips for stuff. I would want higher weight if they nerfed speed more. Agreed maewings have crazy speed. However, Maewings are towards the end of the dlc releases and they are the dino that made the game playable for most solos who only have a couple hours a day to play on official

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pve^

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i was finally able to beat the game after awhile all because of that one dino. It made it enjoyable and fun for me

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I would be totally appeased if they had an item or workbench that did the same thing with babies as maewings

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in regards to raising them

untold ingot
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If you need to move a mot of weight, using a raft always works too lol

tropic forge
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and removing gachas distant would be great so ppl would stop building those stupid lag gacha towers

stone cedar
stone cedar
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that'd be my preference. Or just remove them from the game lol

tropic forge
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no matter how you wanna balance it will make it iqueal or even worst

untold ingot
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I don't see that happening

tropic forge
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make longer timers to drop ppl will tame/clone more amounts, make drops faster ppl will still do the same

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i see gachas as a auto farm for those base lovers that only go outside to farm berries or stone to feed the gachas

grim kestrel
untold ingot
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It's Asa

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So here for now

grim kestrel
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Technically ASA is still Ark 1

untold ingot
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It gets discussed here

grim kestrel
untold ingot
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And?

grim kestrel
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This channel is meant specifically for ark 2

vapid mountain
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Hola

untold ingot
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And it also gets used to discuss asa

vapid mountain
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Alguien habla español

grim kestrel
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English only in this server

vapid mountain
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Nooo

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Ok

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Thanks

grim kestrel
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Admin and Mods can't moderate properly through a translator, that why it in the rules

untold ingot
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That seems like more of a topic for general

grim kestrel
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It not a topic, it giving him a heads up. Learn the difference

untold ingot
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Lol, no

grim kestrel
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AI is only as good as the person/people that programs it

untold ingot
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Not really how it works but sure

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Either way, Ai definitely can be used to tackle the problem of teaming. Use it as a flag, that a human later verifies

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A simple example of this in everyday usage is a spam filter lol

tribal chasm
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They don't have to go down the AI path, but can use in-game reporting methods and snapshots like other games do

tropic forge
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damn i just realize today is the day that might confirm if i buy ASA or not, almost forgot its Friday that will anounce the new creature

tropic forge
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i like water but orca its a no go theres more water creatures that makes sense than a orca

grim kestrel
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If they put up ASA for pre-order today I would buy it right now

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The only thing that might put me in a bind of decisions is if Ark 2 releases around the time of GTA 6 >_>

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RDR port wasn't made by Rockstar it was supported by them which is why they didn't do it on Xbox cause we already had it backwards compatible. Rockstar is the only company I have true faith in because they are the only ones that bring dramatically phenomal changes to each and every game. GTA 6 has a 2 billion dollar budget. There is no other AAA company doing that.

Wildcard took me back with Ark even though I got into it late still put up 1400+ hours and it looks like they may be also trying to make substantial changes so hopefully they can become my number 2 company.

But other AAA game companies are just to comfortable to settle with doing only bare minimum they have to do to make the profit they know they can get away with.

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Either way it irrelevant, they gave the platforms a port that didn't have it backwards compatible. Either buy it or don't. No one holding a gun to someone head to buy it.

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Did I not just say before this whole spill if Wildcard put up ASA for pre-order today I would buy it?

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It my experience people who trash talk a company are just trolls and should be ignored. I would advise you do the same thing with that portion of people in this server. I've blocked a handful of people in this server that literally just disregard any support/feedback I give in this server for Ark 2, ASA, or even ASE

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I just don't like to highlight any opinions from people who just put down devs/companies

tropic crag
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Ooh, Shasta™️saurus, very interesting. A water tame was expected, and this one was pretty cool in concept. Can't wait to see the, well, concept art later on

tropic forge
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damn that wasent the creature i want it but at least aint the orca

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crab would be better than that sub

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@vital jetty its time for your riot

tropic crag
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I really hope they make use of the sub feature, not like how the megachelon was advertised as somewhat of a mobile bubble and just gives oxygen instead

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Would be really good in those deep oceans and in the underworld imo

blissful perch
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Rip. Shasta time

grim kestrel
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Some of the unofficial servers where I was able to have like 20k oxygen made it nice to be able to enjoy some of the ocean deeps

tropic forge
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must be nice this creature for pvp having those torpedo's to use plus ability to make them on the tame, dont you guys make water bases?

tribal chasm
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I am disappointed this creature won, I thought out of all the suggestions that this was the weakest

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Mosa and Plesio could have easily replaced the role (they are in dire need of updates anyway)

tropic forge
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i wanted Nothosaurus Ludicus to win, at this point i probably gonna wait for ASA to come out and watch couple clips maybe some streams cause im more far from buying than i was before when they announce it

winged dome
tropic forge
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dont forget dunks, they are extremely underrated

grim kestrel
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Facts

winged dome
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What do Dunks have to do with platform saddles?

tropic forge
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they have update dunks?

tropic forge
winged dome
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Sigh

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Just Fox moments

tropic forge
winged dome
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Dunks are still in a pretty awkward spot. There really isn't enough underwater gathering nodes to justify one and its slow speed

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They're not bad, but unless you allergic to birds - you're going to use and Anky/Argy

tropic forge
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humm guess that slip by me since i use them more for oil but for a sea creature thats consider a tank whit a mouth truly deadly they suck on ark

winged dome
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If you really want to ferry resources, you're going to use a Transmitter

tropic forge
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actually getting transmitter on island aint hard

winged dome
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Boss element has been buffed a few times, plus abundant Tek creatures for sustaining power

tropic forge
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just beat dragon on beta i think and you should get enough element to make it

winged dome
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Don't get me wrong though, I like the Dunk. Just wish there was more of a reason to use it. Same with most of the other water tames

tropic forge
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well if you planinig to start right away on launch i advice you to get a dunk as soon as possible to get large amounts of oil at ease

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going to north on that little beach that sometimes a giga is park there whit tons of wolfs among other things to get just little oil is pretty risky

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guess penguins gonna suffer brutality again since they will the easiest way to get organic poly

tribal chasm
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The problem I see mostly is map very active early on -- caves blocked or controlled outside -- element really hard to get via no easy artifacts

tropic forge
tribal chasm
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was that said in a community crunch? I would like to read up about that

tropic forge
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i remember once joining pvp too while waiting for gen2, after 1 week on ab a tiny metal base was destroy by mechs

tropic crag
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Server transfers, not obelisk uploads of creatures and items

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Wholly different mechanics

tropic forge
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that will be a good time for pvp, mega tribes wont be able to transfer between island server until SE

tropic crag
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Uploading characters is transferring, not what I'm talking about

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I know people forget about the near-useless dino and item upload tabs nowadays, with the advent of cryos and inventory transfer via character upload

south lance
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megas will make the game even worse without transfers imo

tropic forge
south lance
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its gonna be a server cap of people averaging 7k hours

tropic crag
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You said you can't upload/download, I was merely making you aware that you can, no need to sling shit

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Completely uncalled for

grim kestrel
south lance
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a map that doesnt have a super paranoid mega

grim kestrel
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🤦‍♂️

south lance
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?

grim kestrel
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That when you server hop until you find a suitable to establish on

south lance
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you can establish on a server and have a months worth of progress wiped and a character effectively useless if a mega decides to start up on it

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its not about avoiding a server with a mega, its that a mega can pop up at any time

harsh spear
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mega tribes are cringe

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whats the point playing with 100 man to wipe out small groups. it just shows that you suck at the game

south lance
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tell that to the megas 🤷‍♂️

blissful perch
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Apes together strong

grim kestrel
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And ain't nobody uploading to an obelisk with LIMITED space, then dying to go back to base, to slowly take it all back out, to then go back to other spot, to slowly upload those items again. A mule exponentially faster. - Berserker

This is pretty factual statement above, group I play with as PvE players we would not spend the time doing that all that

harsh spear
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bro what are you saying that has nothing to do with my statement neither does it make sense

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ok but that doesnt explain why they exist in the first place. and it also doesnt make sense to ask a mega for bossfight and then attack them ? why would u need ele to do that

south lance
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ele to make fob stuff like tek rifles and turrets

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i think its still bs that they dont just wait for the fob to come up so theres some actual pvp but ig thats how they survive X years

harsh spear
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i personally would never ask someone for help and then backstap them. like even in a video game that behavior is just dirty af.

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u said the smaller groups

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no 🙂

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youre willfully not telling me

grim kestrel
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Complaints after mega tribes sounds reasonable, but in all honesty when you join a PvP enable MMO survival game it going to happen that just how it goes.

I imagine there will be smalls tribe servers up which is where smaller groups of people should just go to avoid it.

south lance
grim kestrel
south lance
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fortunately transfers are coming relatively soon

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yeah, until then you basically require a large or very committed tribe

grim kestrel
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Until it said to be otherwise going with what currently set to happen

harsh spear
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so basically youre saying that megas raid smaller groups in fear of getting attacked.

grim kestrel
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Like I said I just go off what currently set in place. I have never had a problem with any company delaying games or DLC, I would actually prefer the delay happen as it shows they want to put it out in better condition.

Everyone should be like that after watching the epic failure of Cyberpunk launch which is a shining example of what happens when they listen to immature people who just want stuff right then and there.

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I play PvE so December, January, or February is okay by me for transfer considering I'm probably going to be looking for a discord ran unofficial that intends to grow as the DLC drops and look into good mods that show up

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Also transfer don't have to be connected to scorched earth, they could discover they need to push back the map, but still enable transfer on schedule for December. That is also a possibility.

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Which is why it not really worth thinking about "what if" in this scenario and just roll with it as we get confirmation

harsh spear
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if youve been her long enough you know how wc operates. its not a question whether they delay. 😅

grim kestrel
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🆗

grim kestrel
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I do hope Sino makes it to Ark 2, that my current favorite shoulder pet

mint swan
# harsh spear so basically youre saying that megas raid smaller groups in fear of getting atta...

Sometimes Mega’s wont even bother attacking noobs but then again it’s ark and is one of the most toxic games ..mostly it’s because like said above there’s people who will act noobish to gain the megas trust to get recruited then inside for a opposing tribe ,other main reason is numbers game if a mega owns a server and is keeping track of pop for trolls doing headcount’s they’ll wipe the noobs so they know who is all on server .u see 3 unknowns logging in and out a server that’s all it takes for a fob next thing u know there 70 people flooding(imo officials is meant for large tribes/megas,smalls and dedi is for smaller tribes or people who don’t want to put in as much time )

grim kestrel
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I wouldn't say Ark is one of the most toxic. Yes there will always be toxic people as that life. However I would definitely say 2K community, EA community, and the CoD community definitely make Ark's community look like saints

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Oh yeah let me not forget about RUST that one might take the cake

harsh spear
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LoL nr 1

tropic crag
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Ehhh, I think the whole "Rust players are toxic and say the gamer word all the time" thing is overplayed and factually untrue, Ark players are far worse

grim kestrel
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Nah, my roommate has someone he plays RUST with between seeing what they experience anytime they load as well as some of the videos I have watch the RUST community is the bottom of the barrel.

Ark is tame in comparison just due to the only remote toxic you generally come across is in some underhanded tatics in PvP which is maybe half at best of the community. PvE community on Ark actually shines with people that will help others out including so called "alphas" that are the most set up in a cluster on official.

I say this cause official is where we started and we happened to join one where there was a single alpha among majority of the cluster of servers you could transfer to and them among others were more than helpful in helping us get started when we first joined.

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When the majority of the negative experience comes only from PvP I don't think it can be categorized in the list of most toxic when their an entire seperate half to experience.

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I'd align Ark and GTA about the same at about maybe 10% toxicity just in the fact it is completely and easily avoidable.

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Ah okay

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Anyhow we are getting way off topic and should turn back before a mod comes in lol

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I think what I am looking to see about ASA is how dino react and how far render distant will be with bases too.

opal vapor
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I dunno, rust doesn't have their Devs playing and abusing admin privileges on the servers

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Sorry, producers, not Devs

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Really? So people playing on the official community servers are not part of the community?

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People using admin privileges for the sake of both game progress and personal attacks is not part of the community? Interesting, mind explaining how?

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I think you might be cherry picking and feeling a bit defensive because your argument isn't exactly valid but okay, cya

tropic crag
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The whole includes all subsets and other such groups, to be fair

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He's saying that the contributions of Snail to the toxicity of the game are large enough to warrant some sort of attention to be brought to it, not that it's the entirety of the community, and you know that as well

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You're just being pedantic lmao so bye

opal vapor
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The reality is that if the owners of the community are in there making it toxic it doesn't matter how pious the people participating are lol how hard is it to grasp

opal vapor
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Okay so we are both 5 and it's breakfast time, mum (snail games) brings us the milk and cereal and pours us each a bowl.

If I spit in your bowl then it's toxic, but if there 10,000 people having breakfast there's no way I can spit in all the bowls because I'm just a person, and even if half of us are toxic enough it's not likely we can impact everyone.

But if mum spits in the milk then we all have spit in our cornflakes, because that's the power the person pouring the milk has

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Sorry if the analogy is a bit of a stretch I tried to put it into terms you could understand

mellow wadi
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Wait

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When’s ark ASA coming out?

grim kestrel
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Between October 1st and 31st is all we know so far

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Some time in that month

tropic forge
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why waste time whit a cave troll, block him and move along, it saves you time

grim kestrel
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That a good point

grim kestrel
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I hit the show comment button after a while and determine if I want to unblock someone or not and give em another chance.

lapis ore
#

anyone else think ark 2 is just a myth

halcyon fiber
grim kestrel
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It slated for 2024 currently

solid jetty
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knowing wildcard this will come out in 2030

grim kestrel
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I'm over hearing "It gonna delay" you're blocked 🤦‍♂️

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Better things to do than be a negative nancy

lime forge
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It’s gonna release early

upbeat fog
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But why shut down the ark survival servers for good I haven't even beat the game yet

tropic forge
lime forge
forest hemlock
upbeat fog
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Yeah and I'm new to the game and I have a baby I can't spend all my time on it

tropic forge
upbeat fog
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I do because I hate pvp but i still don't have much time I'm a stay at home mom i have chores to do

lime forge
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Them crotch goblins are all consuming when it comes to demands on your time

thick tulip
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i know we're voting on new tameable creatures on each map, but i hope WC adds more animals to the world. even if untameable, would like to see more in the ocean especially

tropic forge
thick tulip
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k?

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just want more variation to look at lol how it works is their problem

tropic forge
thick tulip
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either way, not my problem. i just want a better range of animals

tribal chasm
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Just realised there will be no whips or chainsaws likely upon release
ma logistics 😦

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Unless they have alternative plans for certain things, moving things is going to be so difficult again

winged dome
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Possibly no Cryos too. PvP Bros going to be in shambles

nova sonnet
winged dome
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I dunno, I think it would be a fun half a year without Cryos 😁

grim kestrel
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Cryopods have literally become crutches for people

latent grail
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feels like i check in here every 2-3 months to see nothing new happening with the game, or it's been delayed again which is just communicating to me that this game is going to be a trainwreck and i hate it

grim kestrel
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This is a discussion channel not an announcement channel, Einstein

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🤦‍♂️

winged dome
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Be nice 😂
Not wrong, but nicer ways to say it.
Probably won't have any significant Ark2 updates until Spring/Summer 2024

grim kestrel
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I have tried, it literally the same thing with people "Oh nothing be said here, nothing shown here yet, it probably gonna get delayed"

I'm just so over people like that

winged dome
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Maybe it's time to step away and take a break?

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Or make a game out of it 🍻

grim kestrel
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🍻

split dove
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🍺 Bob

nova sonnet
winged dome
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The QoL they added with pausing timers and storing tames without rendering is nice, but I do agree having a near limitless supply of Pocket [Insert Dino here] kinda sucks in terms of balancing

grim kestrel
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What Berserker said

steep thunder
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B-b-b-but muh graphics

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What will I do if I'm unable to see each pore on a Rex's anus?

winged dome
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What does a Cryopod have to do with texture quality? 🤔

steep thunder
split dove
winged dome
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Had a 970 too for a while, played it well enough. Upgraded a while later and the difference 👌

tribal chasm
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The cloud gaming machines you can use for Ark are an interesting way to see how much difference a good setup can make. Very fast load times, no lag, on any graphics 😛
Think how many people have died after teleporting because their game takes too long to load (boss or a player kills them)

south lance
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cpu issue

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arks graphics arent too hard to handle

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its all the items and actions that are difficult for people to load

harsh spear
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also average fps in ark means nothing. there is zones where fps are just way worse

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its the lows that make the big difference

south lance
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they did do a fair amount of optimization last i remember

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around this year i could finally enter caves without massive lag spikes

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idk what that model is but thats been my experience

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running ark on ultra or min settings had an effect but not a massive one, it was mainly the fact of whether im loading a large base or not

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i havent used any optimized ini tho

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id also crash sometimrs whrn using maewings since they move so fast

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im gonna still bet on the cpu thing

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since graphics gets more obsession overall

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sandbox games tend to be more cpu dependent ime

grim kestrel
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One thing that caused most of the lag on official was the fact everyone just used behemoth gates as walls and every time any of those gates rendered it would animated open/close of the gates

south lance
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loading in 400 dinos probably didnt help either

wraith coral
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Are they adding new dinos

south lance
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yeah

wraith coral
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How many

south lance
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like 12

wraith coral
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I wanna see more cooler dinos that are mid range like carno range not humongous

south lance
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11 that arent currently in game ig but theres also new dlc coming

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oh ik, people still have bases swimming in dinos

wraith coral
south lance
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nah asa

wraith coral
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Ah gotchu

south lance
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nothing known about ark2 except theres probably gonna be a new lizard plant thing

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and the aratai

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also dont people know how to bypass the turret limit or is it still way less dense than it used to be

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lol

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1 frame

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were heavies a good thing overall?

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since battery heavies are a thing now since i doubt auto turrets are good in the same way

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vs just increasing turret density back up a little

blissful perch
blissful perch
blissful perch
untold ingot
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Yeah, this is a major issue imo

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It changes ark from fighting into turret pushing

eternal wigeon
tribal chasm
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I think in that era you had different win conditions anyway which are not present now. Ie you could make the opponent run out of resources or dinos

untold ingot
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Have it cap your own. And everyone serious does this lol

eternal wigeon
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?
Ik, it's the meta to overcap enemies

And investment, I meant like, most times you see anyone try this, is if they plan to hard fob and fight long

Resources in general to push and hold

The time sink

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Think ur trying to pick an argument here

When I'm not arguing

It is a meta

I don't see many do it tho
Unless they Wana commit for a longer fight

stone cedar
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dang i have unusual amounts of freetime this week and last week. I wish ASA would have come out lol.

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does anone know where I can leave suggestions for ark? they have an official website for it

stray elm
stone cedar
mellow wadi
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when;s asa coming out?

worldly frost
mellow wadi
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this year?

grim kestrel
tribal chasm
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I sure hope they can tone down the fog in ASA or Ark 2, not sure why it has to be thick fog every 5 minutes sometimes. Fog, clear day, fog, clear day, fog, night, rain, fog... like why

grim kestrel
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What map did you experience that on? I never experienced that on any map as you described

tribal chasm
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Island, the weather changes like every 5 minutes (?) so it can go Fog for 5 minutes, then clear for 5 minutes, then fog again

tropic crag
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Center is worse for fog, imo

grim kestrel
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Hm that had to be something with your settings, I don't recall the island being like that when I played on there at least

untold ingot
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Being it hasn't released yet

winged dome
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Might not be a thing on Xbox, but on PC the fog is thicc

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Like 10 foot visibility thicc

grim kestrel
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Very possible since it was still technically running from an Xbox One version, having it on Series X just improved load times.

tiny relic
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Do we have any new information on the release date of ark 2?

tropic forge
tropic crag
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I usually get the mini-superheat (that they backported from Scorched at some point), makes for some really cool screenshots in front of red ob

silent wraith
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when ark 2open?

static marsh
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When i say so

grim kestrel
tiny relic
warped seal
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Hey momo

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After some many months

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Do you remember me

warped seal
timber sandal
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Hi

harsh spear
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hi

sleek bluff
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when it gonna be out

grim kestrel
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Ark 2 is currently slated for 2024

ASA comes out in October this year

clever bobcat
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we all know ark 2 is coming out in 2025

manic cosmos
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*2035

tardy spruce
lime forge
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Are you blocking people for memeing? Lol

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I mean… WC has given them 100% reason to expect delays. Pair that with the complete lack of info on Ark 2 and all they can really do is meme. What do you want to discuss that we haven’t already discussed at length in this channel?

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Memeing made cyber punk fail?

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You may as well just add me to that block list of yours lmao.

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Ark 2 2044

nova sonnet
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who's blocking people

lime forge
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Joe Braddock lol

blissful perch
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Seems like some messages got deleted too. Classic

desert swallow
fiery oracle
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any news on ark 2 yet

grim kestrel
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Just that it slated for 2024 and it on Unreal Engine 5 with Nanites really so far

fiery oracle
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and the ue5 remake?

grim kestrel
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This is a text I complied based on the three survive the ark pages for ASA.

ARK: Survival Ascended will now be a standalone package released on every platform (PC Windows/Steam, Xbox Series S/X, and PlayStation 5) at $39.99.

The package will include the following pieces of content built-in (not sold separately), with each remastered and altered for the next-generation:

The Island (Released at Launch)
Survival of the Fittest: The Island
Scorched Earth (Release in December)
Ragnarok & Aberration (Released by Q1 2024)

Extinction, Genesis Part 1, Genesis Part 2, and all the community-created maps are also to be released over time in 2024 (Fjordur, Ragnarok, The Center, Lost Island, Valguero, Crystal Isles)\

split dove
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and ASA is currently targeting a october release

grim kestrel
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WTF, I could of swore I put October in that post, whoops. Will add that now

pine basin
grim kestrel
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Still relevant information when someone ask as they did, I believe it'll release in a good condition cause they backed up Scorched Earth admitting both maps wouldn't be ready.

pine basin
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Not sharing more info about features translates to me the game isn’t in a good state, because they won’t talk about features until they are sure those features will be ready for the release.

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We are ~2 months away from the release and I’m not sure how the wild baby creatures will work. Or what QOL changes we will have. Or creature TLCs. And so on

grim kestrel
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I get that, some people like to hear progress.

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However I am familar with no announcements until it ready to release being a big buyer of Rockstar games titles.

pine basin
grim kestrel
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Look at this way, this is a way for them to work with the newest generation only and see how everything works on this new engine and any issues that arise could solve potential issues with Ark 2 making ASA potentially a beta to make Ark 2 a better product

pine basin
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BUT what is coming for ASA? The creatures will get TLCs?

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Can we have the ark 2 creatures models on ASA?

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What QOL changes they plan for ASA?

grim kestrel
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Creature votes that came out, just a week ago that one will be in ASA

pine basin
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Or they can just say ASA will be ASE running on the UE5. Which isn’t the case AFAIK, so again, can we have more info about the new features?

pine basin
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I want the ark 2 raptor on ASA, or the new rex, or the new dodo and so on