ark-2

[twilit coyote]

I wish I had people to play 7 days to die 😂

[tropic forge]

for all the shit i went trough on officials im still grateful for those official server and the ability to transfer to whatever server i wanted, made many trades met lots of ppl and help lots of ppl

[tiny ingot]

And, pay for Fjordur for our Ark server cluster. People do play on the cluster

[tiny ingot]

Yeah, I do miss the game

[tropic forge]

but they just ruin my experience whit gen 2 when they announce ark 2, i was like "fuck they set the time bomb before gen2 is out"

[mighty lion]

I have an tower in that game that give you all the achievements

[tiny ingot]

You made a POI?

[mighty lion]

POI?

[twilit coyote]

No cheating!!!

[mighty lion]

Woah woah there is no current cheating, past cheating yes

[twilit coyote]

I mean they pretty much did. But noone knows when 🤣

[tiny ingot]

POI point of interest. A building etc

[twilit coyote]

Lol

No nik

Find your own way! (Youtube)

🤣🤣

I still have the old ass Xbox version not being updated.

[tiny ingot]

Alright, I'm confuzzled, lol.
What tower?

[twilit coyote]

Don't worry about it

😂

[tiny ingot]

🤷‍♀️

We're not in a 7d2d discord, lol. Don't think anyone really cares about cheating in 7d2d

[twilit coyote]

I care!

So hush

🤣🤣🤣

[tiny ingot]

LOL, you care if someone cheats on their own server?

[twilit coyote]

I care about everyone! Unless I don't care. But I digress. Lol

Cheating is bad m'kay.

[tiny ingot]

Eh, only matters if there's some kind of competition going on

Like don't cheat to get an edge and win against someone

[twilit coyote]

Unbelievable. Always looking for the easy way out ain't it nik......... I'm so disappointed

😂

[tiny ingot]

LOL, hey I cheated when I was getting overrun by zombies, LOL

But there was no competition. We were all in the same group

[twilit coyote]

Unbelievable... I had high hopes for you sir.... unfortunately you go in the dumpster.

Arks been typing for the past 30 mins..... I'm just waiting

[tiny ingot]

Darkness Falls....we got overrun by demons one hordenight

[twilit coyote]

Man I wish I could play the mods ngl

[mighty lion]

Basically a tower with a horde of every item in the game. You get the highest and lowest point achievements by climbing it. Grab pills and down them for the wellness achievements. Stay in the tower for the survival time achievements. The only ones you need to work for are the kill players and zombies achievement, which are easily cheesed.

[tiny ingot]

Kept dying. Didn't realize one player had played sooo much they pushed the server to demon level and we didn't have the right ammo, lol

[twilit coyote]

Ok his explanation wasn't cheaty

I approve. Lol

[tiny ingot]

So you made that tower place of interest? That is cool!

[mighty lion]

How I got all those items is cheaty

[twilit coyote]

He made his own POI

[tiny ingot]

Yeah that is very cool

[twilit coyote]

That's not cheaty that's just being smart in your placement

[tiny ingot]

I love watching Glock9 play it. He's so creative in his challenges to make things interesting, lol

[twilit coyote]

I just watch neebs. But I've heard of glock multiple times. Might need to look it up

[tiny ingot]

Oh man, Neebs is great!

Still can't believe Thick is gone

Just watched them playing Ark a couple hours ago

[twilit coyote]

The human man warrior.

[tiny ingot]

😭 Yeah

[twilit coyote]

They should either make a chibi or some sort of decorative piece

[tiny ingot]

They're making a Youtooz of Thick. They talked about it at the beginning of their last vid

Well dang, can't post it here, lol

An Ark chibi of Thick would be awesome

[twilit coyote]

Oh yeah I know. It's like on the 16th? Or something?

Can't remember the date when they're gonna sell it

[tiny ingot]

April 13th

You can buy one(limited edition) and also there's a giveaway

[twilit coyote]

3 days off but I was close. Either way thank you. Cuz I wanna try to get one.

[fiery pebble]

no one buy ase

[twilit coyote]

Here we go...

And why not @fiery pebble

[tiny ingot]

Well have a great night, or day or morning, gonna get going.

[twilit coyote]

Have a good one bro

[fiery pebble]

the only reason theyre releasing it is to fucking scam us

[tiny ingot]

Hope Ark 2 and Ascended are everything y'all are hoping for

[fiery pebble]

weve already paid too fucking much for the game why make it more

[twilit coyote]

For 8 years mind you....

[fiery pebble]

fr

[twilit coyote]

I'm not agreeing with you.

So you paid like $120 for like 40k hours of playthru

If you even played that long like the top dogs.

[sly trench]

people pay $60 for a new aaa game sink 200 hours into it then buy a new game lmao, insane that people with 10k hours are complaining about having to repay

[twilit coyote]

Agreed

[crimson sonnet]

Wow... Thanks community.. u made it all worse than b4.. i was happy to get both games and the dlc option now i probably have to pay even more to get everything...

[south lance]

its like 10 dollars more maybe

plus youre not getting ark2 till late 2024 at the earliest

[desert swallow]

If you were to take that 59.99 and day trade with it you could afford ark 2 by next year.

[crimson sonnet]

Well let's hope they at least show some screenshots of ASA b4 releasing this..

[tropic crag]

The DLC is included, so actually you're saving money by spending the extra 10 lmao

[south lance]

thats the hope

[crimson sonnet]

😄

[past wind]

Im more confident after those changes and some clarifications on why they had to change their strategy. Now makes sense when they say they were planning just to port the switch version.

Now, moving forward, would be nice if they used those concept arts we’ve seen for Ark 2 on creature TLCs for ASA.

I would definitely like this new sabertooth being available on ASA instead of the old saber

Also thinking it’s a long term project and both share the same engine, wouldn’t be viable to share the same 3d models on both games? I know balancing of creatures can’t be the same because the gameplay will be different, but just the 3d model and some features.

[verbal wind]

really hoping to get better models for plesi, galli, and megalo

[tropic crag]

Hard disagree, they should most definitely not use the Ark 2 models, no way no how. Now, separate TLCs that would do Ark 1 good, like the ones Kris stated, sure, would love those

[verbal wind]

plesi and galli have needed new models forever

[tropic crag]

Also more creature being breedable, like the Basilisk and Karkinos

[verbal wind]

megalo is mostly fine but that waddle

[tropic crag]

I think the Ab megalo is nice, but that's because it's aberrant lol

[verbal wind]

and the muttonchops look silly the longer you look at them

[tropic crag]

Overall look could be better for sure though

[tropic crag]

They look silly at all times, to be fair 😂

[verbal wind]

adorable when sleepy

big fluffy donuts

but their run, they waddle and remind me of that jesus lizard

[tropic crag]

True

[prisma pike]

Have you seen the face of a pelagornis or wyvern lol

[verbal wind]

have you seen the plesi face?

[prisma pike]

It's not as bad

[verbal wind]

oh it's bad

looks like a chain chomp

[prisma pike]

Pelagornis' nose isn't even straight

And the wyvern have floating teeth that are diamond shaped

[verbal wind]

and galli has gigantic cartoon eyes

[tropic crag]

Pela is eh, could take it or leave it. Wyverns though... yeah. The Ice outclasses them so hard in the looks department, the others need some love for sure

[verbal wind]

would be nice yeah

[prisma pike]

Gigs are covered in oil lol

[verbal wind]

poison looks kinda goofy

[prisma pike]

And they got a droopy eye

[verbal wind]

baby giga have a funny overbite

[prisma pike]

They needa fix the oily looks on almost every dino tbh

[verbal wind]

giga is also hella shrinkwrapped

but that's typical of many dino recreations

[crude dagger]

Ark 2 is not gonna release on their release date if they're gonna add so many changes and updates to the ascended version

And why tf did they suddenly decided not to sell both for 60$

[mighty lion]

Ark 2 will never release on its release date if it's given more than a month out

[crude dagger]

A month? Its a year that they've given themselves 😂

[mint swan]

If ark 2 is ready for launch it should be €70,00 bucks like every other good game

It scares me if they sell it for €10 that doesn't promise any good

So take your time to make ark 2 and make it really good then just ask €70 for it like every other triple AAA game in the industry

[raw bobcat]

2*

[crude dagger]

2024 not 2025

😂😂

I've never paid 70$ for a stupid AAA game lmao

[tropic crag]

That's becoming the new standard, been needing to for a while, but I will say the games will start having to actually be worth 70 if I'm going to get them at that price (looking at you, CoD)

LoZ:BotW's sequel will be 70 USD, and I'm gladly paying that 100%

Would pay 70 USD for Ark 2 (given I didn't get it pre-release, which I will) if it's even half as good at that time as promised

But that is irrelevant as it's going to be early access at a reduced price so it'll be worth it pretty much guaranteed

[crude dagger]

Ah yes a CoD player, say no more

[astral token]

Pikmin does not play CoD

The council would excommunicate him otherwise

[tropic crag]

Mentioning CoD means you play it? Damn, aight

[rancid harness]

Fr

[tropic crag]

Guess I'm an active CoD player, watch out

Lmao

[crude dagger]

Much so sounded like you do 😂😂

CoD was never worth 60$ yet alone 70$

[tropic crag]

The past few games that are/were 70 USD were not worth that much from what I saw, so yes, point taken I guess

[crude dagger]

Only few? A couple of years now and there's no game worth even at 60$

But it doesn't matter

[tropic crag]

Cold War was fun, but I got it for what it was worth, on sale: 20 USD 😂

And even then, only for zombies, like any rational human being

[crude dagger]

Thats bs but sure XD

[tropic crag]

Ah yes, I forgot, you are the authority on video games, my apologies oh grand minister of The Game™️

[crude dagger]

😂😂 yes please call me that more

[kindred copper]

Cold War Outbreak mode actually was super fun and refreshing. Cold war was the last new COD game I thought was good, MW2 2019 was a SLAP

[verbal jacinth]

Mw 2019 was best vod and my mind will never be changed

aside from black ops 2

[kindred copper]

bo2 was beyond prime, only b03 came close to that for me. Im the really weird guy that loved AW and Ghosts

[verbal jacinth]

I loved ghosts too

[tropic crag]

Bo3 easily the best zombies, no contest

[verbal jacinth]

Extinction was acctualy golden for me

[crude dagger]

Awww

[verbal jacinth]

Oh yeah i recently bought bo3 for zombies

Some modded maps are extremly fun

[kindred copper]

B03 zombies are so good they went ham on those maps.

[tropic crag]

But let's not get off topic here, lest the mod gods smite us for our transgressions

[verbal jacinth]

Unholy

[kindred copper]

the all knowing ones

[crude dagger]

🤣

[verbal jacinth]

Poor ark 2

I just try forget about it honestly

[tropic crag]

It'll come when it comes, and it'll be legendary

[kindred copper]

Whaattttt im hyped about it, Im not into the camera/combat changes but I just obsess over Dinosaurs anyways so im cool with it and I still think itll be really good

[verbal jacinth]

No no, not like that, i just try forgot about ark 2 so it comes quicker XD

[crude dagger]

My friend, please join me on a journey to heaven and hell and you shall experience the utmost satisfaction of what it is to be truly alive

[kindred copper]

oh big facts

[verbal jacinth]

Bro tryna see god

[crude dagger]

If he's there, sure why not

[somber void]

When will it release

[verbal wind]

🍻

[left arch]

when it releases

truly my mind size is mega

[signal cobalt]

it is true that the official ark servers are closing ?

[split dove]

yes, you're the minority

Despite ASE Officials representing the minority of players on ARK, it’s an invested and passionate group with attachments to their bases, tames, and characters, and seeing that go away can’t be easy.

[untold ingot]

Being as ark2 has no official servers yet, no. But ark1 ue4 official servers will close

[untold ingot]

You really want to dig in that 😂

[split dove]

oh easily

[prisma pike]

My man's called them a minority lmao

[split dove]

can't deny the factual statement

[prisma pike]

I mean, they could play unnoficial and were just wondering lol

[split dove]

where would the fun in that be

[prisma pike]

Call them dedi bob

[split dove]

🫣

[prisma pike]

Remember to spit on primbox players

They lag your servers

[blissful perch]

I’m thinking my 2080 is gonna combust playing these UE5 games

[tropic crag]

I don't think that's how it works, lol

[prisma pike]

It is

[regal stag]

Ark trash

[prisma pike]

Primboxes take 4 years to render anything and lag tf outta the server

[tropic crag]

How? That makes no sense in several ways

[prisma pike]

Have you never seen an Xbox one spawn in main

[tropic crag]

The game is rendered client side, not serverside

[prisma pike]

You HAVE to kill them

[regal stag]

Ew xbox💀💀

[prisma pike]

You don't even get ark 2 wdc

[tropic crag]

Damn, put a fork in him, he's done, you cooked him

[prisma pike]

Whenever you render stuff it takes performance or something off the server ig. It just lags when you do though if you have a bad system or wifi.

[regal stag]

Xbox

Ewww

[prisma pike]

That's why safe beds exist in the first place

[regal stag]

Ur momma a Clown💯

[tropic crag]

Hmm, strange. I've never had this happen afaik with my players

[prisma pike]

@tropic crag Have you never heard of bed hopping? Cause bed hopping is just abusing the fact that this happens to lag the shit out of the server.

[tropic crag]

No, I don't typically look into or try to exploit/cheese lmao

I play legit

[regal stag]

@tropic crag goofy name

[prisma pike]

Yeah, well when you fob and start wiping stuff people get on their primboxes and start bedhopping.

It's unplayable

Comparable to what the lag on 98 was when there were 200 people on it at once

[tropic crag]

Strange, but I believe it. The game simply wasn't made going forward from launch for the OG Xbox Ones 🤷‍♂️

Aka last gen

[split dove]

we don't talk about last gen here 🫣

[tropic crag]

But that's also partly due to Nitrado's poor servers at times, I will say lol

[prisma pike]

I thank wildcard for the next gen only ASA

Because it frees me from the lag

Hopefully official won't be crossplay with PC though

[tropic crag]

Yep, and it frees you from the duped, mega tribed, plain gross current state of official too

For a few months, at least 🤣

[prisma pike]

Lol, however bad you thought duping was before multiply it by 1000x rn.

[tropic crag]

Mark my words, no subscription service = no meaningful moderation

[prisma pike]

People literally buy a cap of duped meks then fob and put out an @ everyone saying to spawn naked and run a mek into shit

Ever since they said officials going down everything has collapsed lol

Every line is leaked

And everyone is selling duped shit for cheap af

[tropic crag]

Oh I don't doubt it, s'why I hate official and have since the good ol days

[prisma pike]

The good ol days was dossing the map after uploading your stuff lol

That's alllll people did back then

[tropic crag]

Maybe for some, sure. I played legit, always have, always will

[prisma pike]

Same here, but still.

[tropic crag]

I know Spartans did that, but now we're getting off topic lol

[prisma pike]

If you kitted someone for a 296 would you keep it?

[tropic crag]

Depends, in the olden times? When it was likely legit? Yes

[prisma pike]

Likely legit?

Bro that's impossible to have legit origins

Cap on them is 150

[tropic crag]

Not impossible, just RNG

Another thing I hate about Ark 1, which I hope is changed in Ark 2, is the sheer amount of pure RNG. The loot tables, breeding, the whole game basically is one big RNG roll at times

Obviously, some things need to be RNG, but I shouldn't be getting goddamn crop plot BPs in a ringed red drop 😂

[prisma pike]

Well, you don't know where 296 Tek rifles came from. They were spawned in by an abusing gm years ago and have been duped.

[tropic crag]

And I know that, but they are achievable via gameplay, what with tek rifle BPs existing. But I guess those didn't exist back then, technically

[prisma pike]

They aren't achieveable because they cap at 150 my guy...

[tropic crag]

Gameplay says otherwise

[prisma pike]

Where have you seen somebody craft a 296 on official?

[tropic crag]

I haven't personally SEEN someone craft it, but to think it can't happen is just plain silly and a complete fallacy

[prisma pike]

The game literally hard caps the damage of Tek weapons excluding bow at 151.1% on official

Just like most saddles are 124, some like carbos are lower though for balancing reasons.

[tropic crag]

And again, gameplay (and even the wiki, apparently) prove otherwise

[prisma pike]

Only exceptions to that are gen 2 bps but their damage caps at 337.5% and Tek items (besides bow) aren't effected by the bp being gen 2

[blissful perch]

Pretty sure the legacy cap was also higher than the current one?

[prisma pike]

Did legacy even ever get extinction? I don't remember but I don't think it did.

[tropic crag]

And it's not a hard cap, it's a soft cap. A hard cap would be the dinos that pass the level limit and get deleted on server reset, or something like that

[prisma pike]

Items past the cap get reset down to correct values

On transfer/server reset

[tropic crag]

Legacy has got every map, I'm pretty sure. But I don't play any more so I wouldn't know with 100% certainty

[prisma pike]

296's don't have the "tracker" that regular items do because they're admin spawned

Not a single 296 has ever had a "crafted by" on it lol

[tropic crag]

Either way, this has nothing to do with Ark 2, so I'm gonna go to bed. My head is aching as well, for whatever reason

[prisma pike]

You're thristy

[tropic crag]

Perhaps, haven't drank water in like an hour or two

Anywho, g'night fellas

[prisma pike]

Night'

[marble zenith]

aww you wont get ark 2 will you thats sad lol

[regal stag]

Ark 2 coming out in another 2 years home boy💀🤣

Xbox only gonna get 1 good game💀

[winged dome]

Laughs in Master Race

[past wind]

Peasants!

[south lance]

damn

[potent hull]

a wild charlied alpha baby has ben seen all run lol

[mighty lion]

I thought legacy was shut down before valguero dropped

[past wind]

The new servers came before Valguero, but legacy servers were kept running for a while after that. But I don’t believe they got all maps. The great migration happened in waves, so I don’t remember when the last server was shut down.

[mighty lion]

Anyone else notice the new dlc for ark ascended is not included in the new deal

[split dove]

it also wasn't with the previous one, just a standalone dlc purchase

[past wind]

Hopefully will be a new gen map

Massive map, featuring new techs we don’t have on Ark 1 like the world events

If not that, if it’s just a new old ark 1 map, I won’t be much excited

[mighty lion]

I think they'll try to give them selves another route to continue the ark story in Ark 1 whether it's on earth or another factions escape plan

[split dove]

Ark 1 new canon DLC staring the Redneck Coalition in their own story

[past wind]

It seems to be that, and TBF I don’t hate the idea. But I want them to go really work on that next gen Ark. At least the creature models can be used on both.

Ark ascended having the new models like the concept art sabertooth instead of the old one. I would be happy with that.

[winged dome]

Ark1 Saber is pretty underwhelming for a time-period apex predator

I still think the Asc DLC is going to be post-Ext Earth

Bridge the gap between Ext and Gen

[verbal wind]

considering the saber is going up against apex dinosaurs...

it's not that surprising

[winged dome]

It's so smol though

Make it near Thyla sized

[verbal wind]

then it's just a worse thyla

[winged dome]

🤦

[past wind]

I would be fine with that, I just want them to really bring the new features from Ark 2 to ASA. Like massive map and world events, so it really worths to play buy and play the new dlc.

[winged dome]

That's why it needs to be better 😂

[verbal wind]

with what additions?

if it gets climb it's just a thyla reskin

if it's tougher it's just a thyla without climb, aka worse thyla

[winged dome]

Latch like Dein, stealth and sneak attack

[past wind]

I would be fine with that. Less creatures, but with more features. Like the new raptor looking more like the Deino and carrying some of its features.

[winged dome]

Aside from like earrrrrly chitin farming, there was never a good use for a Saber

[past wind]

Yeah, that’s my point

I’ve always used thyla to explore caves

[verbal wind]

i used bary until deinon came out

[past wind]

If they revamp the sabertooth with new features, with this new concept from Ark 2, it would be awesome

[winged dome]

I'd use Dein more if the climbing wasn't so wonky

[verbal wind]

i was hoping the climbing was more like thyla/rock drake

it gets better with practice but there are still some worrying spots where things stutter like shit

[past wind]

My point is I doubt they can update all creatures with TLCs

So agglutinating similar creatures would be a solution

Saber + thyla = new saber
Raptor + Deino = new raptor

And so on

With time they can release new creatures, next gen creatures

Of course that’s me conjecturing, I don’t know what’s their plan

[winged dome]

I'd be alright with that

[prisma pike]

Here's the thing with "souls like combat" creatures can fill the same role and still feel unique with different movesets

So tbh they won't need to "revamp" it

[past wind]

Im not sure ASA will feature souls like combat

It’s not clear yet

But I’m talking about next gen visuals and features

[prisma pike]

Thought you meant in ark 2, I doubt they'll use the ark 2 concepts for asa.

[past wind]

Would make sense to use the same assets

As both will run on the same engine

[prisma pike]

So reuse ark 1 stuff?

[past wind]

But who knows

[past wind]

No, use the new ark 2 concept arts on Asa

And also some of the new features they are planning for ark 2

[prisma pike]

A lot of stuff that won't be in ark 2 and only in ark 1 would have to be redesigned to not stick out like sore thumbs compared to the newer assets

Though, they might have to redevelop everything already, idk though.

[past wind]

Yeah, hence why I’m suggesting they should use things the same assets for common things like some creatures

I mean both will have a sabertooth, why not make the saber be the same for both games?

With some balancing necessary, of course

[prisma pike]

Different games, different art styles.

Most games with sequels have different art styles from their first

[past wind]

But they’ve decided to develop both at the same now from now on

[winged dome]

Not really different art styles, more like different design choices

[past wind]

Só Im not sure

[prisma pike]

That's art lol

[winged dome]

Art style would be like ... cell shading or something

[past wind]

That I can understand, hence why I think some different balancing would be needed. But assets could be common I guess

[prisma pike]

Art is more than drawings

A carved statue is art

[past wind]

Based on their two CCs, they are bringing new techniques they are using on Ark 2 to ASA. So I don’t know both games will have different art directions.

[winged dome]

I'm not disagreeing with that, but changing the overall art style of a game is a lot more than just a few design choices

[past wind]

Where I think they will be really different is in gameplay

[winged dome]

New Saber is a design choice. Having it cartoony would be an art style choice

[past wind]

Maybe some features

[prisma pike]

Well, new techniques could just mean better coding knowledge or how to work the engine better.

Could mean anything

[past wind]

Sure, that’s me guessing. We will have to wait and see

I just think common assets would save them a lot of time

But we will see

[prisma pike]

They could remake the mesh for stuff like raptors and just copy over the textures to deinos and alter them slightly

[young onyx]

@fair knoll

[rare heart]

I hope wildcard doesnt do creature votes for the sequel

[winged dome]

Same, or at least for a while into release. Some of these critters and their OP abilities are absurd

[rare heart]

Like not even because of how dumb and unoriginal top voted ideas can be

[prisma pike]

On god

[rare heart]

but more or less the team is not weighed down by guidlines

I think they could come up with far more unique stuff that wont divide over such an important part of the game

Also noted how they gut every idea that wins

[prisma pike]

Because every idea that wins would be blatantly op

[rare heart]

I mean i felt like that was what made rhynio so appealing

because clearly it being an insect wasnt enough (bastion beetle literally everytime)

Im glad they butchered it anyways because rhynio in the vote was the worst thing i have ever seen for a creature design

I just feel like the votes arent that necessary if each idea is gonna be redone anyways

[split dove]

Or useless stuff like 2 cheetahs in the last top 10

[rare heart]

I feel like you have to make the creature sound insane to get it to win anyways

i think american lion was useless

the cheetah was, alright

Sounds like something a modder needs to do

[prisma pike]

I made a creature that isn't just vote pandering and it has one vote lmao

[rare heart]

id rather have the devs make creatures because their tastes are better suited to fit in the game. On top of continuing support for the game once the game is done

because clearly people’s tastes are quite, bland?

Each creature is so far very unique and interesting but they are all kaijufied versions of predators you can ride

And just act as replacements for other creatures more or less

[short fulcrum]

I too hope this time round people vote for the creature that they think fits scorched the best
Instead titanogigatricerotopsrexstego prime that can fly, swim, walk on land, can carry up to ten tek replicators full worth of metal at a time, and one shot wild gigas

[prisma pike]

Or they'll vote for a cow again

[short fulcrum]

Or that

Probably both

[prisma pike]

Probably

[spice egret]

Your made up creature name is hilarious to me but also accurate

[prisma pike]

So far the top submissions aren't as bad as last rounds

[short fulcrum]

I just typed the the name of 5 different dinosaurs without spaces lol

[tropic forge]

ppl should vote for rockmander the early version of saladmander

[prisma pike]

Salad

[short fulcrum]

People should vote for me to be the new scorched earth creature

[tropic forge]

it would be nasty to see the breeding process

[prisma pike]

What would you do?

[short fulcrum]

I would passively produce a new resource in my inventory called lego set
That can be thrown on the ground to break them and any thing that stands on the pieces will be stunned for 60 seconds

Oh yes
And i would also be able to fly, swim, walk on land, carry 10,000 metal and one shot gigas.

As long as I mention all those abilities, it'll be an easy win

[prisma pike]

Fosho

[robust mica]

ttt

[eternal lion]

Hi

[desert swallow]

Hi

[molten bridge]

Ttututututu

[desert lichen]

I wonder how long after Ark 2’s release for new mesh methods and hack clients to surface

[tropic forge]

why? so you can check and use them?

[desert lichen]

No. I want to know how long the game is great

[still nest]

I want to know if there will be a Beta or not?

[split dove]

the first bundle with Ark 2 and ASA had a 1 month closed beta period before everyone else gets to play for those who bought the bundle, but seeing as that bundle has been scrapped and is now a ASA only bundle that is unclear. there will be a ''beta'' for Ark 2 with it's early access release similar to what Ark 1 had up until it's fully complete official launch 2 years after it's early access release.

[still nest]

I hope so.

I want a Beta either early access or pre order 2

[split dove]

early access is gonna be the way, at first only next gen xbox consoles and pc. seeing as Sony isn't that keen on early access games and Xbox and Wildcard signing a timed exclusive contract for Ark 2

[still nest]

So when should we expect the early access.

[split dove]

atm Ark 2 is slated for late 2024, could always be earlier or later depending on how well they get on with learning to use UE5 better with Ark 1's UE5 remaster in august/september as it was a big part of the recent delay to late 2024

[still nest]

I guess time will tell

[split dove]

indeed

[tropic forge]

sooner aint happening later for sure and aint 2024 more like 2026

[still nest]

At least it's not pulling a Dead Island 2

[candid edge]

so as i hear people will have to rebuy the ark and every dlc that we own again coz of UE5, so are we going to sue steam or them who will have to sue them, and will they get sued by the steam itself i wonder how will this end up

[tropic forge]

go ahead its your chance to win loads of money

[winged dome]

Why would you sue? Its a totally new product 😂

You got what you paid for the first time
You'll need to pay again for the upgrade and new features

[desert swallow]

I sued Naughty Dog because of the last of us remaster! Twice!

[blissful perch]

If only you could sue people for legal activity 😞

[south lance]

infinite money glitch

[elfin pumice]

Infinite scrap glitch

[haughty ore]

By new features he means wild babies and a photo mode

[winged dome]

Updated engine, better optimization, full cross platform support, cross platform modding, DLSS, better structure snapping and improvements, improved minimap, updated AI pathfinding, updated character creation and customization, dynamic water, dynamic foliage ...

and also wild babies and photo mode

[tropic forge]

shame customer support aint on the list 😢

[winged dome]

Play Unofficial, be your own support 😂

[tropic forge]

unofficial aside from money drain its limited to the amount of your cluster server size which the more servers you have the more money will cost than you have to make your server noticeable for ppl to join and keep and eye on stuff so on ufff thats lot of money and work just talking about it 🤣

[tropic crag]

Then you have donations, if your cluster of people want to play on your cluster, they will donate money to keep the servers up, pretty simple concept lmao

No servers are free, and I'm tired of people pretending they are

Even official has a cost, you just don't pay it, WC foots the bill

That's why we need a subscription service to access official for Ark 2

[tropic forge]

i cant be owner of a server its the same thing whit single player, there's a reason i play official, console commands are too tempting 🤣

[tropic crag]

Skill issue

I own a cluster, and I don't cheat lol

[tropic forge]

aint a skill issue, only starts when game wrong you and you go replace it what you lost but than since youre doing it why not just a little better and since youre at it spawn that bp thats extreme rare, ho right since youre on it make gigas imprint 100% and so on

[tropic forge]

you use mods?

[tropic crag]

No, not yet, as there are not mods on Xbox currently

Also how is your own temptation not a skill issue, lmao? That's literally a textbook skill issue

[tropic forge]

if temptation is a skill guess i have a skill issue than 🤣

[stray elm]

It very much is

[unborn galleon]

You don't make sense at all. You sound drunk af

🤣

[tropic crag]

Honestly though, I saw it and was like "Lotus, is that you?"

[crisp bronze]

will i get same graphics and fps with ark2 / ark asa or do i need to upgrade my pc

[untold ingot]

It will probably the roughly equivalent

[haughty ore]

Those are not features but improvements

[winged dome]

Not even going to bother arguing how moronic that response was

Average Ark Chatters on another level 😂

[tropic grail]

cross platform is not an improvement

well, all the cheaters going to console lobbies is an improvement for pc but not for console

[royal patio]

ark 2 is gonna be fun

[hearty radish]

tbh with each delay the more hopeful I become that ark 2 is going to be extremely polished

[patent valve]

tbf, there are plenty of cheaters already on console. Cross platform wont effect it that much, cuz cheaters gotta cheat. The platform is no longer much of a limitation. I'm talking aimbots of course, but Ark 2 will hopefully have better prevention for things like meshing and duping. I no longer play PVP but I'm hopeful for ya'll.

[blissful perch]

I’d recommend holding until we see more. For now we just don’t know enough to have a sense of what state release will be

[abstract birch]

Have you seen Cyberpunk 2077 after several delays ? Delay =/= polished

[uneven sentinel]

Willy

[red panther]

This far into production and we still only getting concept art smh

[mint swan]

Who is down to play some ark 2?

Im loaded up in a server rn

[south lance]

me

[hearty radish]

that's entirely true but one can still be hopeful lol 🙏

[vapid panther]

If they were very far along on development and still need another year and half seems to say they had no idea the potential of ue5. Someone may have pointed some things out and WC realized they missed the boat and can add a lot more features without slowing down the game. With rhe storyboard done and all they need to do is maximize function, gives me some hope that Ark 2 is gonna surprise us on many levels, in a good way.

[fast isle]

Say no more then less g

[mighty lion]

My hope is they finally gave us an over estimate of delivery time

What nonexistent dino abilities do you guys want to see?

[blissful perch]

You mean fantasy abilities for fantasy creatures? Or do you mean more normative abilities not found in ark 1?

[mighty lion]

Both

For a normative example, I'd like to see a pit trap worm which scales how large of a dino it can consume and its size with how much it's been fed ( i.e. live dinos it's killed)

[blissful perch]

Sorry I used the word dumb

Combined with the word “ass” and it deleted my long answer

[mighty lion]

Oh damn

[blissful perch]

I was unaware combining two valid words was a crime. My bad

To the question at hand - I’d like a creature that has a trap setting ability of some kind, be it a web or a snare. For normal abilities I’m most interested in pack strategy, where a pack member tries to flank or surround a target rather than all bum rush from the same direction

[split dove]

we can't insult the playerbase it seems

[blissful perch]

I wouldn’t be bothered if it was all banned, but apparently only arbitrarily selected words are. Which makes chatting feel like navigating a minefield

[mighty lion]

Would be cool to have preset envelopment tactics you could select

[blissful perch]

Even just having wild creatures do it would be excellent

It would be sick to see two allos and start sweating wondering where the third is

[mighty lion]

Oh I see, you want some " clever girl" moments

[blissful perch]

I also want more snares rather than hard stuns

Snares = you walked into something and you earned it. Stun = no you couldn’t outrun an eel

[mint swan]

Just to clarify, when ark 2 remastered is released we have to buy the game again? (I’m on pc)

[winged dome]

Yes

[mint swan]

Interesting. Do they need money to finish ark 2?

[celest valley]

Probably

[tropic forge]

ark 2 remaster damn we dont have yet ark 2 and already talking about ark 2 remaster

[mint swan]

Hmm ok! I was surprised to hear we have to buy again. It’ll be nice to have it on a different engine, but sheesh lol. They doing us like destiny

Thank you for explaining

[celest valley]

I kinda like the idea of the oficial servers reset and no easy tek

[tropic forge]

wont last long

[mint swan]

I love that idea!

[celest valley]

At least for some mpnths

[tropic forge]

bout 6 months i think maybe less until extinction is out

[winged dome]

I think Ex was scheduled around Q4 of '23, so like 4 months from Asc release

[celest valley]

Yeah, but anyway, things are going to be good until gen 1 release

Bc skiff makes game kinda boring

Faster, but so much easier

[winged dome]

Whoops, Q1 '24 - so yeah about 6mo

[celest valley]

Tbh I miss the old anky argy farm

[winged dome]

I wonder if they're going to delay transfers, or just open them once each DLC is released since everybody will have access

[tropic forge]

all that of course whit out delays but im afraid ASA gonna have a delay already, cant imagine they finish island and SE in 6months

island itself as all the core dinos and 7 caves, shit cant remember

[winged dome]

Depends how much of the assets they can transfer over

[tropic forge]

what, no work on the creatures???

[winged dome]

They'll probably get some touchups

But I don't think they're completely rebuilding everything form scratch

[tropic forge]

youre telling me plesis gonna look the same or mosa turning or even megas size?

well they said its gonna be a new code line

[winged dome]

I mean, I dunno, I'm not a dev 😂

[tropic forge]

they could do a "tlc" on all creatures at least

[winged dome]

They could, but currently not in the scope of the game. Might get more info closer to release, but for now I wouldn't get my hopes up

[tropic forge]

they better show a gameplay cause now im not so sure about buying it before i see it

if is gonna look like that clip jery share on twitter hell no

[mighty lion]

Jery?

[tropic forge]

jeremy

i just short it like the megalodon 🤣

[celest valley]

They should do a build tlc

[tropic forge]

they have to otherwise whats the point to do UE5 so map only??? that would make creatures ugly as hell, like ark whit 16bit creatures 🤣

[split dove]

We need a ark player community tlc pass tbh

[celest valley]

I hope they are not going to just throw a bunch of new graphics making the game unplayable for pc

Just that

Even if it is only a megalodoon tlc

[tropic forge]

but thats the idea of UE5 not only for code but next gen graphics ence why only next gen consoles

[celest valley]

I know, but ark has alredy a bad performance on most pc's

[tropic forge]

they got the right idea of just holding back potential for old gen consoles and move forward

that as to do whit lots of think, one would be a server whit ppl building castle's and have load of dinos outside taking dust "pve" to show off

if you try on single player you will see a huge difference in performance

[mighty lion]

I feel like if they gave single player a toggle to allow for time to run while offline, you'd have slot more room on pve servers

[mint swan]

Just here to remind everyone Snail Games sucks…and to those that attempt to argue just look at their stock as it’s gone public😂

[tropic forge]

no argue there but after what i have see all day on general ppl are more worrie about snail games stocks rather how wc gonna do what they said on roadmap for island and SE in less than 6 month which by now its 4 months

[mint swan]

I am just really hoping Snail games makes changes or sells ark’s rights. There are laws protecting investors “in a way” that push companies to increase stock value. With the way it’s going, snail games has to make decision soon

[tropic forge]

if only microsoft would buy it

[mighty lion]

Ark ascended and ark 2 have to sell well for Microsoft to buy it

[hearty radish]

yeah that is definitely true

[tropic crag]

Not necessarily, if Snail keeps going under

[mighty lion]

They still have a decent cash infusion from the ipo and a stock repurchase program, if anything the stock taking a dip now is extremely beneficial to their business

[mint swan]

For once I agree with bruising. Ark II or ascended doesn’t even have to release for Microsoft to buy it (if they wanted). They know ark has a large playerbase from 1 and I’m sure have teams dedicated to watching this stuff. All it takes is snail games to get desperate enough to make big changes. They have to make money at some point

[tropic crag]

Not to mention, (iirc) Jeremy has stated in the past how closely they work with Microsoft, so it sounds like they kinda already have their foot in the door, so to speak... but only time will tell if that in conjunction with current happenings will be enough

[hasty fractal]

Anyone else thinking about armor for Dino’s?

[winged dome]

We have those, they're called saddles 😂

[lone pilot]

trailer for ark 2 shows a rex with armor....

[gleaming dagger]

Bro🤯
Imagine ark have mode in PS 5 like the pc

They can do it like Minecraft mods in the store

Making store for adding things in ark 2 will be a big thing in ark PS version
Ark will be the best if this thing add👌👌

[tropic crag]

Huh?

[gleaming dagger]

Like primal fear mode

Is it very good mode right?

Why we can’t get it in PlayStation

Minecraft has modes in PlayStation from store in the game

Make a store in ark will be the best

[winged dome]

*mod, not mode

[tropic crag]

Ohhhh, ok, I got ya

[gleaming dagger]

And the company will get money

[astral token]

It will be there in ASA 👍🏽

[tropic crag]

Yeah, mods are coming to consoles for both ASA and Ark 2, so that'll be good

[gleaming dagger]

What ASA
My English is very bad

[astral token]

ARK: Survival Ascended

Read the details in #announcements

[gleaming dagger]

All what I understand from you is in the future modes will come to consoles right?

[serene onyx]

Mods not modes lol

[gleaming dagger]

Sorry

[gleaming dagger]

But am I right?

[fallow niche]

Yes

[gleaming dagger]

So I am late with my idea

🙃

[fallow niche]

That's okay be sure to read the crunches in #announcements to keep up with information regarding Ark 2 and Ark Survival Ascended.

[gleaming dagger]

Bro

My English is so bad

It’s good that I can talk to you😂

[verbal wind]

don't worry, native english speakers are usually bad at it when they have to write anything

[astral token]

It’s no worries, we’ll try our best to help 😄

[humble onyx]

Knowing they'll probably delay it a little mear the end, don't expect to get this till at least early 2025

[humble onyx]

Honestly snail games is weird as instead of trying to push their games out ASAP like most companies for a cash grab, they're leaving it for as long as possible. They're also very sketchy and, from what HOD has said, are abusive to the developers.

[blissful perch]

There’s likely contention between snail and WC about some of these issues

[rancid harness]

Given that all their games but ark are flopped and they're broke af, that should tell you something

[coarse cave]

I wonder if Atlas could be saved by UE5. Such a cool concept, shame it is left for dead

[fallow niche]

Would need to ask in the Atlas discord, different company.

[mighty lion]

I'm sure snail would like the game out quickly. But wildcard is holding off to further develop the game. It can also be a point of contention between them, but there may also be culture differences that lead them to seem abusive

[humble onyx]

Hod was given evidence that suggested snail games was trying to frame one of the co founders for theft or something

[humble onyx]

It's alot more than culture differences

[coarse cave]

no idea my dude, didnt even know I have Mamastrasza background until you pointed it out. Probably pre-launch hype. Gotta fix it

[autumn vortex]

Are the server player limits going to be increased?

[tame geode]

Yes

[tropic crag]

We have no idea, but probably?

[tropic forge]

if they gonna keep same server hardware better hope they decrease the limited since more than 20 ppl on starts to decrease server performance

[tropic crag]

That's just Nitrado, let's hope they don't lock us into just Nitrado servers for server hosting anymore for ASA

[untold ingot]

They aren't keeping the same hardware

[tropic crag]

Come to think of it, I doubt the same hardware would be able to run UE5 servers tbh, at least the Ark 2 ones

[mighty lion]

What kind of player caps do you want to see on servers?

[ripe cedar]

I doubt server caps will be any higher, because even if the servers do preform bigger which is a big if since we still no very little about what is actually changing, capped servers preform horribly currently so if performance is improved then maybe you can have capped servers with only some lag i doubt we will ever see servers over 100 but i dont know anything this is pure guesswork

[tropic crag]

Like 200, maybe? But that's just a guess, I don't really want to see that many people in one server lmao

[mighty lion]

I really hope they'll fix the queue system for capped servers. A B spam shouldn't give you priority

[rose socket]

so is this the game we have been waiting for like

for 2 years

[tropic crag]

Yes, continue waiting

[mental wyvern]

Player caps on Official servers won't matter, the officials servers for ASA will be the same as ASE, Ark II probably not much different. You get on, build up and then some local Alpha flexes nuts and wipes you because they can. The majority of mature Ark players don't want to play those style of childish games. Peaople already familiar with the "ARK" mentality of the Alpha communities, will just go unofficial servers right off the beginning leaving WC and snail in the position they are in now, low sales, high overhead with Servers and unsatifactory customer service. This is their history and it will not change until leadership changes.

[split dove]

i doubt it will be the same with crossplay and cross-platform mods. the only people staying on official will be the die hard official players that somehow are still gonna exist while it becomes even more of a minority lmao

[tropic forge]

thats me 🤣

but aint be on pvp for sure 🤣

[fleet breach]

ARK 2 will be ESO compared to Elder scrolls oblivion. ☺️ This is my prediction and a Opinion only. I'm ok with this, as it's what will get ARK out of its bottle neck fan base. ASA will give the boomer fans what we always wanted for customization and creativity, but could never have if a console player.
Again just a prediction opinion.
So I can say I told you so in 2024 🤭😉

[kindred vale]

Isn’t made by people from wildcard?

Explains why wildcard is mediocre with any game they come up with.

My prediction will be ark 2 will have a major fall off like atlas

[untold totem]

But was owned by former returning WC founders

Despite being a "different company" the vibe is still the same but GS is worse

At least WC respected the modders

[untold totem]

It's already dying, they removed VOIP recently

The only thing that keep the game alive now is 1 very popular RP server that runs seasonally

[coarse cave]

Thats what I was thinking. I always felt that they struggle with the map size spread across servers and the copypaste islands. UE5 has tools to deal with both and get some performance gains on top. Restarting the franchise could keep it alive. They had lots of cool stuff planned that didnt happen due to tech limits

[untold ingot]

Atlas failed because it's competition was ark, and ark was objectively better

[untold totem]

Compared to what the ARK modders does

I am sure people can squeeze content despite the limitations

And yes this is related to ARK 2 because modders are the backbone of an active game

Even the deadest of games like old MMOs can be revived by modders

That is why I don't cry when official sunsetted

Because I know it's gonna happen

[wintry urchin]

Anyone see the ue5 procedural gen demos? Holy shit that was wild

[cold locust]

It is amazing what ue5 can do. I’m not excited to see the file size but everything else about ark2 is exciting.

[blissful perch]

A 500GB ark 2 will offer so much more than 500GB ark 1 did, which I guess is a win in some ways lol

[split dove]

a small price to pay for salvation. i'd happily replace ark 1's file size for much needed improvements coming with Ark 2

[past wind]

My hope is that will also be a thing to ASA

It will now use all the UE5 techs, I guess

[tropic forge]

thats half of 1 of mine ssd cards 🤣

[wintry urchin]

Nvme drives are relatively cheap anyway, I'd have no problem buying another for ark

[past wind]

Unfortunately most people are on a budget. It might be cheap for you and for me, but not for everyone. It’s important for Wildcard to take that into account.

People paying 300 dollars on a console might not have the money to pay half of that for a 2tb nvme.

[wintry urchin]

True

Disposable income goes crazy

[sterile stone]

pleaase for the love of god dont let ark 2 be 500gb

a large amount of my friend group already refuses to install the 3-400 gb ark 1

oh is the remaster still going to be a free upgrade like I heard? cant wait to play that

maybe itll be smaller lmao

[silent citrus]

@sterile stone you mean 1.5? Nowhere does it say it's free o.o its $60

Unless steam is getting it free

[sterile stone]

didnt they say the ascended or whatever was going to be a free upgrade for people that have ARK 1?

[silent citrus]

No

[sterile stone]

hmm, I mean ok understandable, 60 bucks seems a little high imo tho

does that include DLC or anything, or will there be a bundle

[silent citrus]

For only two maps starting off, it's a dumb price. But that's wildcard...

[split dove]

60 for a remaster and all dlc included in one deal seems decent compared to the previous offer of 50 for remaster and 40 extra for dlc packs

[sterile stone]

so DLC is included then?

[split dove]

yes

[silent citrus]

Yea but no idea when they will be available

[split dove]

only dlc not included is the new one coming in Q4 this year

[sterile stone]

better than I guess. Still might wait for a sale anyway

certainly not gonna buy it right away

[silent citrus]

The sale starts in August

[split dove]

Aberration and new DlC Q4 2023, Extinction and Genesis part 1 Q1 2024 and Gen 2 Q2 2024 with free maps coming later

[fleet breach]

Agreed! 💯

[silent citrus]

They havent confirmed those releases though. Just plan to have them released by then. Just a heads up. Again, its wildcard.. they are known for not being "on time" with their promised releases.
The new version will be worth it yes, just will take awhile for that worth to show..

[kindred vale]

No there money hungry gotta rebuy all dlcs

[fallow niche]

The dlcs are free. I don't know where you're getting that you have to buy them.

[silent citrus]

Maybe because it says the expansion packs are sold separately..

[fallow niche]

It doesn't

[silent citrus]

Re read the announcement. I just took a screenshot to double check it. And yes, it says they are seperate..

[fallow niche]

No. They are not.

[split dove]

you're using the outdated crunch lol, new ASA bundle includes every DLC except for the new one coming in Q4 2023.
but i should've expected this from our communities moments sometimes

[silent citrus]

Where is the new posted crunch? Neither of our clusters have gotten that update info?

[split dove]

#announcements

[silent citrus]

They rhyno one?

[split dove]

yes

[silent citrus]

The*

Yet no real release date on when we will have the DLC? It did I miss that? I seen average dates but nothing confirmed. And i guess our bot didnt get the rhyno updated news either

[split dove]

honestly i prefer release windows over release dates if they're not completely sure if they can get it out by that date

[fallow niche]

They'll share actual dates closer to when they have them ready. There's no point in getting people's hopes up, knowing how bad they are with dates sometimes.

[silent citrus]

Ok got it. At least they make up for ripping ark2 out of the bundle

[split dove]

that bundle with ark 2 also gave the people who purchased it access to a 1 month closed beta period before the general public could play Ark 2. and now with that bundle scrapped that part is likely also scrapped.

[past wind]

Or close to the ark 2 release they will announce another bundle that grants early-access

A lot of games are doing that

[split dove]

i suppose we shall see next year

[past wind]

Yeah

[split dove]

Previous bundle with Ark 2 included would've cost $110 for everything, New Asa bundle with new upcoming sold separately DLC will be $80 total. Ark 1 was $29,99 for it's early access launch price so i'm thinking as Ark 2's a next gen game it might cost $40 at early access launch.

[past wind]

No… previous bundle was 50 + 20 + 20 = 90

To cost the same as before, Ark 2 needs to cost us 30

[split dove]

oh yeah i know, i just added the upcoming dlc to the total cost for the first asa bundle

[past wind]

How do you know the new dlc will cost 20? I doubt that, unless it is a dlc with a lot of content.

[split dove]

just going off the previous individual dlc costs, a new map and 4 new creatures.

[past wind]

I mean, back in 2016 they used to sell scorched as a stand-alone product. And it didn’t cost 20

It was way cheaper than that

[split dove]

Scorched Earth is the first paid DLC expansion pack for ARK: Survival Evolved. Scorched Earth was released on September 1, 2016 for the PC version of ARK and for Xbox One at the initial price of $19.99 USD. It was released on PS4 on December 6 for the same price.

[past wind]

I just checked at SteamDB, lowest recorded price was 7 dollars.

20 is probably the price of the bundle

I know because I paid for the bundle

At release you had two options: 1 - buy SE as a stand-alone product or
2 - buy the season pass including SE and the two upcoming DLCs

Back then we didn’t even know what would be the other 2 maps

[split dove]

season pass was 60 right? iirc it was

[past wind]

Im pretty sure it wasn’t

This price above is probably about the bundle

If you bought it before the release in 2016, you can see your purchase history. I can’t right now

They didn’t increase the prices per say. They just changed their bundle.

Not higher as 2 DLC bundles alone would cost you 40 + 50 for the base game and Ark 2

[fallow niche]

The prices were going to be the same no matter what, minus like $10, if Ark2 was coming out at $60.

[past wind]

In that case wait a while and they might start selling the base game only

[split dove]

Ark 1 early access price was $30, so either $30 again or $40 bc it's a next gen game in early access launch

[tropic forge]

gotta pillar your spot 🤣

[past wind]

Well, then... You will have to buy it for 60.

[potent hull]

ark soda if wild card mad a soft drink it will be calld ark soda

[past wind]

Oh boy, now we have a Youtube fight between the youtubers deffending ark and the ones bashing it. LOL

[blissful perch]

Sorry what

[past wind]

DMED you

[untold ingot]

Hasn't that been going on for 2 weeks?

[stray elm]

Who're you rooting for?

I'm betting 20$ that the crying will die down once it actually releases.

[ripe cedar]

I mean most internet mobs die down relatively quick

[swift orchid]

Y’all buy ark ascended?

[stray elm]

I'll wait for day-one videos, but currently 'yes'

[wintry urchin]

Prob won't on my main but will on an alt

[swift orchid]

Everything fresh wipe could be funny

[mighty lion]

Yeah, I'm excited for the new fob options smaller teleporters open up

[wintry urchin]

Smaller tps?

Where was this confirmed

[winged dome]

First announcement, QoL changes

[swift orchid]

Where are all the leaks?

[winged dome]

There are none, yet

Only some official info

[swift orchid]

Where u find them?

[past wind]

Everything on the pins here in this very channel

[winged dome]

😐

[winged dome]

😐

Just Average Ark Chatter things

[mint swan]

I’m just here to remind people Snail Games sucks

[swift orchid]

Y’all think that there will be Cryos on fresh wipe instantly?

[cobalt sonnet]

I hope not would be more fun

[worldly badger]

Probably not since cryos came out with extinction

[astral token]

Cryos are all maps now, so I believe they will be

[red finch]

Will there be built in mods for console on ark 2?

[verbal wind]

you know as much as we do

[red finch]

So its unknown? Because I have absolutely no idea

[verbal wind]

exactly

the only things we know about ark 2 is that it takes place on a planet, it has vin diesel and dinosaurs, and it will run on ue5

[red finch]

Oh

[verbal wind]

anything else is subject to change or speculation

[steep citrus]

RIP ark

[proper tangle]

Bold of you to assume ark 2 will come out before unreal 6

[naive meteor]

Ark 3 rease date 2048

[ripe cedar]

They want to have mods for console for ark 2 yes

[red finch]

Oh nice

[winged dome]

Not sure what you meant by 'built in mods', but all platforms will have modding support

[swift orchid]

Are y’all pvp or PvE?

[tropic crag]

Can't really decide, when the game ain't out yet, eh? 😅

[winged dome]

I just know I will never play Official 😂

[split dove]

we won't ever touch official or pvp because we know this community too well

[winged dome]

I can be convinced to play PvP, but not full on offline raid, maximum sweat PvP 😂
I dunno how people enjoy that in Ark1

[desert swallow]

They allow it to take over their life

unless you are a content creator and that is your job, not a good idea

[winged dome]

Ark Content creators are already pretty cringe -coughNooblets-

[untold totem]

Despite being participated in a let's play

I prefer a RP (recreation/machinema) one better

[rancid harness]

Me thinking about starting content creation:

[winged dome]

I can get behind that. Having a story to engage in/tell adds a lot to gameplay loop and reasoning, besides 'doing a metal run for the sake of metal run' for the thousandth time

[winged dome]

Hey, you do you. Never let anyone tell you what you should or shouldn't do. It's just not my thing 😂

[rancid harness]

Lol ty

[untold totem]

How do you think I end up in Ned's stuff lmao

[winged dome]

Who is Ned?

[untold totem]

The guy who recreate the ARK lore

[rancid harness]

Neddy the noodle I assume

Pretty interesting stuff, he scripts and films lore recreations ingame

Not my thing but it's well done and you can see the dedication

[untold totem]

It's actually fun behind the scenes

The bloopers shows some of it

[winged dome]

Gotcha

[untold totem]

As much as I want a feature trailer for any QOL enhancement in ASA

I am so hype for the Photo Mode

[rancid harness]

I like how mods seem to have given up on this channel being specifically for A2

[untold totem]

There is nothing new to speculate tbh

[winged dome]

Shh, you'll awake Bee 👀

[rancid harness]

XD

[untold totem]

LMAO

[winged dome]

What sort of content do you want to make @rancid harness?

[rancid harness]

Well I've done a couple tutorial videos on my YT, and want to do more, but with like, an in-world skin on it. I have an idea fleshed out for how to do it in Ark 2, but, well...
...that kinda fell through lol

[winged dome]

Oof, well hopefully you get your chance when Ark2 releases - best of luck

[rancid harness]

thanx

Back to remixing the main theme in synthwave...

[winged dome]

Lowkey, Gen1 but Synthwave flair for the respawn/biome teleport transitions/boss fight would have been rad

Not just music, but the whole aesthetic

[rancid harness]

That literally would've blown my mind. The Genesis 2 theme dipped into that genre musically (as far as instrumentation, just missing the pulsing synth bass), and that's probably why it's my favorite theme.

Hmmm...maybe I'll see what I can pull together for content creation and see if it meshes with synthwave musically and aesthetically. You may have just helped me out here lol

[mint swan]

Daily reminder that snail games sucks

[coarse cave]

Bruh. I get daily reminders firing up my youtube homepage

[oak inlet]

Watch the DLCs be Continental masses

[split dove]

We're on a planet so that is the biggest chance of being DlC locations.

[dull sentinel]

is it gonna release in 2023?

[split dove]

it's been pushed back to late 2024, main reason they gave was them needing more time to learn how to better utilize UE5 seeing as it's a brand new engine used in the game industry.

[mint swan]

Daily reminder that snail games sucks

[ripe cedar]

How big will these DlC’s be

[winged dome]

Hopefully chonky

Since basically all of the DLC creatures/engrams from Ark1 can be gotten on free DLC maps, I hope a bit more focus is aimed at the overall quality and content provided by Ark2 DLC maps

[wet grove]

Ark 2 will just port ASA U5 assets. ASA is the second standalone game (first being atlas) to be a copy of Ark SE. What other game producer has sold the same game 3 times

[past wind]

We don’t know. My hope is the ASA new DLC will use the same features they are planning for Ark 2 and we will have an idea on what’s coming with Ark 2

The new dlc should have a massive map + world events + dynamic localized weather etc

[wet grove]

it will be on another ark or more likely another part of earth. Its being released between abberation and extinctions re release. I imagine that's intentional from a story pov

[past wind]

Well, if it has new the new features + a massive map I’m in

If it’s just another little map, with old features + 4 new exclusive dinos… not so much

[wet grove]

i hope those new features arn't more stun tames XD

[past wind]

New features = more dynamic World + world events etc

Maybe new bosses meta

[winged dome]

Laughs in Skyrim

[gusty granite]

was hoping to play ark 2 before cold war 2 started thanks snail games

[bold juniper]

[past wind]

No worries, you will be busy playing COD in real life ✌️

[winged dome]

I expect a lot of the QoL updates/features added in Asc are testing grounds for features they're planning for Ark2. And I hope we see more new features in the Asc DLC

[harsh spear]

Ark pvp should be casual-friendly.

I think they should have a mode where you can not destroy structures but kill and steal. So this way you can always be save at your base and therefore have steady progress.

An im saying that as a non-casual. Without casuals there is little fun.

[winged dome]

Unbreakable pillar spam/FoBs? I'm sure that won't be abused in the slightest~

[harsh spear]

It can be done. You need zones like gen1 that are unbuildable. And a range how far yoi can build. And only 1-2 baselocations at max

[astral token]

[winged dome]

So everyone would make individual tribes, allowing bypassing of building/base limits to achieve the same effect. Entire zones will be built out in a day

And if there's no raiding, there's really no point in PvPing aside from maybe getting a kit? Nobody is going to be hauling breeders away from their secure base

[harsh spear]

Hmm true..

I feel like cryopods as cool as they are , theyre causing issues with teaming and overtaking others in an instant

[winged dome]

Cryos as a way to store dinos is a great mechanic. Cryos as a way to pop a Giga out at any point is dumb. Imo, cryos should only be able to deploy in range of enough friendly structures

[mighty lion]

I mean the cryo sick limitations were a good addition and it provides a decent risk reward scenario. Having a pocket giga is super useful for pve and pvp, running gen 1 pit for example

[harsh spear]

What makes it problematic is that People dont have to traverse them through the map as they had too in old days. It made it far riskier to raid

I think they should remove cryopods entirely but make it possible for tamed creatures to be retrieved to the base somehow.

Maybe automated quetzal taxi or something 😅

[winged dome]

UberQuetz 😂

[harsh spear]

And for breeding purposes they could make like a tek storage thing thats able to store creatures. This you couldnt abuse for pvp, only defence

[winged dome]

S+ Propagator

All the breeding without the lag/space

[blissful perch]

You lost me at “all the breeding”

[winged dome]

Propys allow you to breed from Cryos directly. Don't need the creature popped out at all

Minimalist base essential

[blissful perch]

I meant that you shouldn’t need QoL for a feature that shouldn’t exist 😅

[harsh spear]

This uber quetzal idea honestly not a bad one. Imagine just chilling on quetz and enjoying the View without having to do anything

[blissful perch]

(The feature being extensive breeding)

[winged dome]

Oh, true. Hopefully we don't need it at all for Ark2

But for Ark1 and likely Asc, I am spoiled 😂

[blissful perch]

I’m curious how fast S+ will drop

To the above topic, I think there should be a creature roster specific to each player that they can “summon” a tamed mount with

[winged dome]

It might even be fully integrated since it is the most popular mod (with some restrictions on OP functions)

[mighty lion]

Bets on the crunch anyone? I'm betting it's sparse

[winged dome]

Sparse. New detail or clarification of past detail would be a bonus

[calm scaffold]

Sup everyone

Saw an IGN news article saying the new bundle offer is a "f*ck you to fans"

Any damage control going on yet on wildcards side?

Dont seem to be rude I'm just genuinely curious

Ark 2s future doesn't look that great rn unfortunately as I want it to succeed

[mint swan]

there's a newer article, isnt that much more positive though

[calm scaffold]

Damn

I mean if IGN are going after wildcard they really F'd up

[mint swan]

everyone was clowning on WildCard, even other development studios firing shots at them (well deserved imho)

[calm scaffold]

Everyone still is clowning on them LOL

It's 100% deserved too I mean c'mon

And good luck to them trying to get someone to host their anime now with all this negative stuff around the company

Noones gonna want to host it due to affiliation

And today's community crunch is basically a death sentence

Either they double down and get even more hate or they ignore the situation and they get called out for ignoring it

Unless they make ASA free for people who own ASE and it's DLCs somehow then I see no way they get out of this situation without going bankrupt

[past wind]

So... the way to avoid bankrupcy is giving their "only" product for free?

[calm scaffold]

I mean if it lets them go back into a positive light and allows them to host their anime on a streaming service to make money then yeah

Even if they go through with this and still sell ASA as is

[past wind]

It won't, man

[calm scaffold]

It definitely won't make enough money for another 2~ years of development on ark 2

[past wind]

people will complain no matter what

[calm scaffold]

Yeah but it's about maximizing profits

Even from a purely corporate standpoint it's illogical

[past wind]

if they give it for free, people will complain ASA is new gen only, and old servers will be shut down and... and...

[past wind]

There's no profit maximazation when you give it for free

maybe a new price point or a new bundle model

but giving it for free won't save them IF money is really an issue

[calm scaffold]

Free for only people who have already owned ASE, which are the main part of people not wanting to rebuy the same game, and since there's players on ASA due to ASE players transferring, new people will come in and buy the game

[past wind]

Which is 40 million people

[calm scaffold]

I guess your right yeah

[past wind]

the thing is: they would keep spending on servers but no new flow of money would be coming their way

[calm scaffold]

Either way it just don't seem like enough

Developers cost a lot

[past wind]

I'm not sayin it was a good move

but I'm not sure they have any other option

[calm scaffold]

Exactly

ASE shutting down is fine for most people I think

It's just that ASE players get no free upgrade is the problem

Are they ABLE to give that? Probably not

[past wind]

I mean no other option than charging for ASA and selling DLCs for it

[calm scaffold]

But the players don't care, they want the free upgrade

And if you don't appeal to the people giving you money, your companies dead

So it's kinda just a lose lose scenario

[past wind]

It's not just that. There are several players on PS4 and Xbox One

ASA won't be compatible with old gen consoles

[calm scaffold]

True that too

[past wind]

Yeah, and they probably know that

But there's no other option I guess

[mint swan]

It's mainly WildCard's fault. They basically roped themselves into a corner with Ark 2 as there's almost no hype, no interest and constant slander by the community. ASA seems their only option besides animated to do well at this point.

[calm scaffold]

Ark 2 being delayed just basically means "we need to survive as a company until we get ark 2 out" now

That WAS going to be their main source of income

[past wind]

I disagree, there was a huge hype back in 2020

[calm scaffold]

And they've been hemorrhaging money

[mint swan]

there WAS, but now, there certainly isnt much

[past wind]

but after 2 postponements, well... we're here...

[calm scaffold]

ASA and getting a streaming service to host are their only main sources of income tbh

[past wind]

sure, but their bet on Ark 2 was right. But unfortunately they couldn't deliver it.

[harsh spear]

I just dont think its worth buying the same game if the same issues exist. Ark in its current form is not fun for me.

[calm scaffold]

Plus the fact that there's no gameplay after 2-3 years of development? Personally I don't care but it's still atleast SUSPICIOUS that it's not even in order enough for at LEAST a screenshot

It's confusing from an outside standpoint what the devs are actually doing there

[past wind]

Definetely. The same game on UE5 won't convince anyone

[mint swan]

gonna be what like 8 and a half months until we could potentially see anything about Ark 2? gonna be interesting to see how things play out

[calm scaffold]

They're definitely gonna take until maybe the earliest mid 2024 to show gameplay, and even then they can just delay again

If they are able to, they need the money

Delaying might not be an option

[mint swan]

If ASA goes really well, they can afford another delay. At that point why even bother releasing the game?

quite the pickle they're in 😂

[calm scaffold]

Even more money lol

They're clearly greedy so

Or atleast snail games is

[harsh spear]

Theyre playing it smart. They know that once footage has been revealed it will be all over the internet and the people will make up their minds wether its gonna be good or not.

So its smart to not show suboptimal footage. However its weird they cant get their shit together and always delay anything they do.

[calm scaffold]

Yeah I agree with that

[past wind]

Man, it's been 8 years. Ark SE would come to an end eventually.

I just think they did it the worst way possible.

As always, huge PR fails

[mint swan]

I'm hoping ASA development doesnt end the same as ASE. Probably will with most hands on Ark 2

[calm scaffold]

That's actually a very good point

I HIGHLY doubt they'll pay for more servers for ark 2

They'll probably just repurpose again

[past wind]

Doesn't make sense

they will need more servers

killing ASA in a year would be even a disaster

Based on their announcements, they will be distinct products being developed at the same time

[rancid harness]

Well at this point they're probably crunching to high heaven lol

[mint swan]

for $60 they better as fuck keep the officials alive for another 8 years 😂

But at that point, it becomes guesswork at how things will go. Hopefully ASA is successful and official players have a healthy, long lifespan

[blissful perch]

Officials should be shut down way sooner. Maybe 5 years tops

Especially with a huge amount of investment in mods? I don’t see why officials need to exist for the later life stages for ark 2 or ASA

[past wind]

Time will depend on how successful it will be

But definetely it won't be here forever 😂

[prisma pike]

Because most people just wanna play the game how it's meant to be

[blissful perch]

I just hate the idea of WC flushing money away on official servers that don’t really need to exist for ark to work

“How it’s meant to be” can be unofficial on 1x rates

[prisma pike]

Nobody does that though, that's why.

[blissful perch]

Why would you when official exists? If official disappeared I imagine 1x unofficials would pop up

Unofficials have to serve a playerbase after all

[prisma pike]

People also play official because they want to make progress on lines and their character that won't go away in a month and official has way more people on it than any dedi will ever have making it far less boring.

Unnofficials also have admin abuse and on a lot of them these days you can just straight up pay for a server that only you can join that's linked to a server or just buy "grace" so that people aren't allowed to raid you for x amount of time, it's stupid af.

[mint swan]

yeah there's a lot of shit unofficials with P2W features built in. Store UI mods being abused so hard 😂

[prisma pike]

Also it's easy for a PC to brute force an admin password on dedis

[past wind]

Any online driven games need official servers

[tropic forge]

unofficials do what they want same as wc, main differences between a person renting a server and wc is more servers and couple years online from wc, from a person side extreme few servers paying monthly and everyone thats playing on that person server are at their mercy, if i have to choose between unofficials or single player like ark 1 is i rather not playing at all

btw the way you said "Unofficials have to serve a playerbase after all" sound kinda like its a person duty to spend money to rent servers for others to play, just saying

[winged dome]

I mean, they kinda do. Paying for a server for a couple of friends to goof around on is one thing, but if hosts want their server to do well and attract a player base then they need to stand out in some way. Either with agreeable mods/rate, enforced rules, or whatnot. If hosts start abusing privs or their players, then people leave the community and generally the server dies. Generally hosts want people to stay

And players will put up with a surprising amount of BS to play on servers that appear good, or have an otherwise good community

But unless you're hosting a server yourself, that's up to each individual person to decide what their BS limit is and if they would want to stay if that BS limit is getting approached

[mighty lion]

Strongly disagree. But we'll see, by that logic ASA shouldn't sell too well, since people can still play unofficial servers.

[blissful perch]

Categorically false given the most sold game of all time (minecraft) does not have official servers

[blissful perch]

Nobody pays money to host a server nobody uses. That’s the simple truth

Unofficials only would leave a lot of variance out there, of that there’s no question. But WC wouldn’t have to foot the financial and service bill of handling officials, which afaik they’ve struggled to do effectively in ark 1

[past wind]

Minecraft isn’t online driven

You can create your own world and play co-op

[blissful perch]

The multiplayer scene is pretty massive. And it’s got the same unofficial/coop/SP structure ark has

[past wind]

Multiplayer is different from persistent online games like Ark

[blissful perch]

Any dedicated server for a multiplayer game functions identically in this context

I suppose if ark 2 wanted to be a massive cloud effort and double down the MMO they could do that with officials, but it’s not what I’d prefer

[past wind]

It depends on the game

Like games based on matches

Are a lot different than a persistent online world

[tropic forge]

what you mean? thats what a unofficial server is

[past wind]

Off-line ark isn’t much interesting IMO. Offline Minecraft is very interesting

[blissful perch]

You’re saying people are forced to pay money to run unofficial servers. I’m saying that nobody would bother to pay for a server if nobody played on it

[tropic forge]

no wait wait, that was refering to waht you said

[blissful perch]

It’s a different experience. Ark 1 straddled MMO and small coop and singleplayer experiences. I’m not sure ark 2 wants to do the same, but ark 1 kinda faltered on all three as a result of trying to spread too thin

[past wind]

My personal experience is the most popular servers I know rely on having their own shops/stores to keep their servers up

[blissful perch]

So you agree. If nobody plays/pays, the server doesn’t exist

[past wind]

Besides those, I know some dedicated only for friends, they are not open to the public

[past wind]

Sure, but it doesn’t mean without the official environment of servers, unnoficials would appear out of nowhere

You can say they shouldn’t have lots of servers, that’s fine

But having no official servers is something I don’t think would work

[tropic forge]

youre confusing me as all, first you say wc shouldt spend money on officials for long years thats what unofficial servers are but now you say If "nobody plays/pays, the server doesn’t exist" so.... no online no MMO just single player than?=

[blissful perch]

It would be a major departure from ark se, of that I have no doubts. It’s moot sadly because Dollie confirmed officials for ark 2

[past wind]

Because they know ark wouldn’t be popular without officials. Even if the majority of players go to unnofficials, it’s important to have the official environment

It’s like their showroom

[blissful perch]

You’re being dense. WC shouldn’t spend extra money on officials imo because I want that money to go to them adding more content for me (who doesn’t use officials) and other players like me. If people WANT the official experience, they will rally to each other via unofficial servers. The reason unofficials that mimic officials don’t exist in ark 1 is because there’s no reason to duplicate official servers if you’re looking to start an ark unofficial community

[tropic forge]

thats how games were develope, they had their official servers, nowdays games they came out whit singleplayer and if you want online you pay for your server 🤣

[blissful perch]

It’s about 40% of their playerbase rn, and more on consoles because consoles lacked mods. It’s not an impossible task given they save tons of money not running officials long term

[past wind]

There’s no ark 2 at day one without officials

[blissful perch]

There is though. It’s called “everyone who doesn’t play official”. Which is a large volume of people

It’s not the full ark playerbase, which IS a loss of sales, but it’s not a product killing move

It becomes less beneficial to run officials the longer they run however. Hence my original statement of a shorter run time of 5 years instead of 8-9

[past wind]

Without officials, Ark SA or 2 won’t be appealing, because we will never know when good unnofficials will appear

[tropic forge]

so as for you that dosent want officials its ok but for those that want "fuck off rent youre server" that is very much one side, btw you think officals have low ppl? youre crazy to think that only counts after 8 years of the same game

[blissful perch]

It’s really not that hard to have a service like minecraft realms where WC provides a system to open your own server. Boom -> quick unofficials. But again, it’s not worth me arguing for No officials at launch because it’s confirmed officials WILL be available at launch

[past wind]

Man, day one there were no Unnofficials. I had to play official.

How are people supposed to play ASA day one without official servers?

[blissful perch]

My game crashed and was unplayable day 1 🤷‍♂️

The point is that WC could easily whip up a way to host unofficial servers day 1

However, that’s not what’s happening

[tropic forge]

ho man "large volume of people" 🤣

[blissful perch]

WC has already said officials are coming out day 1 of ark 2

[blissful perch]

Officials have almost never been the majority on PC. Perhaps before mods came out

[past wind]

They won’t for a reson. Isn’t doable. They need the official environment. What you can argue is this time they should make it smaller and focus their money on other stuff.

[blissful perch]

Which is what I did

[tropic forge]

then explain why every dlc 1month servers were cap of ppl?

[past wind]

No… you said zero officials

Less officials is ok IMO

Zero officials wouldn’t work at all

[blissful perch]

Right here

[tropic forge]

i had to get a autoclicker to get to gen2 server i was playing cause everyone else was doing that the server was 70/82

[blissful perch]

Yea for like 1-3 months. Then quiet again

[tropic forge]

yeh to about 50

than 1 year later to 20

[blissful perch]

I doubt it’s a solid ROI model to do that

[tropic forge]

how many ppl are on one unofficial server?

[blissful perch]

That’s the cool thing. It doesn’t matter. The number of unofficials can expand and contract freely based on the players who want to play them

For WC it’s all free. Whereas officials cost them money and people

[tropic forge]

right cause its your way or the highway cool talk later

[past wind]

If you meant less officials rather than no officials, we are in the same page then

[blissful perch]

I mean the normal number of officials but they shut down sooner

[past wind]

Most officials have low populations. Wildcard should kill the low population ones more frequently

[blissful perch]

If ark 2 officials are a slam dunk and are high pop at 5 years…I’ll eat my hat and WC will probably have every reason to keep them up because they have a good ROI

[past wind]

Man, I have guess, but I better wait and see. Let’s see what happens when official ASE are shut down.

[blissful perch]

Ideally WC does a big purge at 2 and 5 years or something of low pop/dead officials

[past wind]

Then we can assess what would happen with no officials

[blissful perch]

It’s not a perfect comparison given officials will be released again for ASA…so the people who want official ark 1 will likely just move to that rather than seek unofficials

[past wind]

We can assess better than just guessing.

[blissful perch]

I think the better test is how populated officials will be when ASA’s mods for consoles come out

[past wind]

But my point is, I want to see if ASE will stay relevant without officials

[blissful perch]

If mods drive down official playercounts on ASA? I think it’s kinda clear the direction things are going