ark-2

[verbal wind]

also ive always wanted hammerhead sharks in the game

[covert tapir]

and colorful fish / oceans

everything was grey black

[blissful perch]

I’d love to see more fish about the size of a lystro

Or a bit larger - ark 1 oceans seem to be filled with the fairly small coel and salmon or the massive stuff like sharks and squid

[stray elm]

ARK-2 needs schools of fishes to make it more alive

Kind of like the ocean swarms in Gen1, but non-hostile

[covert tapir]

tho i wonder how soulslike in water works

[blissful perch]

The ocean teeming with life would be cool, but tbh they can swing it not being so in the lore

[stray elm]

Conan.

[blissful perch]

Primary reason right here I don’t want to see oceans on launch. They need time to sus that out for ark 2

[covert tapir]

never played 🙃

[stray elm]

Youtube

[stray elm]

Hear me out.
Actually getting a fucking ocean DLC like ARK-1 was originally suppose to have

[covert tapir]

tired 😴

[stray elm]

And NOT make it it's own game. (Atlas)

[stark moth]

I just want more ocean balance. Ark1 feels too much like: here's some little stuff that will incapacitate you, some massive stuff that will one-shot you, a dolphin and a shark.

[covert tapir]

the game who should not be named

[blissful perch]

And anglers 😆

[covert tapir]

just deny its exsitence

[past wind]

Never

I liked it, for an year at least

[blissful perch]

I agree with ya tho PsychoKittn

Ark 2 also needs to rely on removing or severely restricting full stuns

[stark moth]

Yes pls

[blissful perch]

In ark 1’s primitive movement and combat stuns make sense to a degree…but it’s straight misery getting stunlocked

[covert tapir]

how about dark oceans instead of blue ones so its actually scary 150m deep

more like the center oceans

[blissful perch]

Oceanic light pets anyone

[past wind]

It will probably be like Atlas

It was a bit scary

[stark moth]

Omg that would be so cool

[covert tapir]

how do the oceans look in the game which is not mentioned with good will?

[stray elm]

Hear me out.
Let there Mariana trench-like section.

[blissful perch]

I like the depths to a degree but tbh I love shallow waterways the most

[past wind]

Pitch dark, then we see the floor when we get there

[blissful perch]

It’s where earth’s biodiversity is most lively anyway 😅

[covert tapir]

sounds good

[past wind]

but it's super dark also

[past wind]

look on youtube someone looking for ship wrecks

[covert tapir]

well ill go to my pitch dark sleep now and miss community crunch gn peeps

[untold ingot]

I just want a really deep section of ocean that you can build a base under

[blissful perch]

Things I’ve never seen in ark 1 but would love in ark 2 oceans: turtle grass fields, mud flats, Everglades style swamps, and some real deal kelp forests

[past wind]

Without tek?

[potent hull]

seaweed

[untold ingot]

Yeah, using something else

You don't need tek to build a sub, just metal lol

[past wind]

maybe air bubbles like on the center

[blissful perch]

I’m down to not see any underwater base building if it doesn’t make sense to

I’d rather see surface aquatic bases expanded on…the pontoon system of ark 1 being brought to a whole new level for example

[untold ingot]

I wouldn't complain about that at all

[winged dome]

Linking multiple rafts together for a mobile platform base was a lot of fun during the early days of Ark 😂

Parking them correctly so they didn't overlap was a pain though, esp when the server rubber banded them all over the place

[untold ingot]

It would be nice to see that expanded upon. Especially if the game takes an archeapelago approach to it

[past wind]

Not fun for the servers. Then they created the leeds. LOL

[winged dome]

Yeahhhh, Leeds put a stop to my long-term rafting builds pretty quick

Stupid fish

[past wind]

To everyone, my friend

[untold ingot]

It game back with stationary Gen1 plats

[past wind]

all my hidden boats on pvp... gone

[past wind]

If they do something like the movie waterworld, Im in

it's kinda primitive, not much tech stuff, but it's nice

[untold ingot]

The biggest issue with platform builds of any type is allowing loads of stuff to stand on top

[past wind]

I think ark 2 will have more limits than ark 1

and it's a good thing

[untold ingot]

Yeah, they learned a lot lol

[past wind]

the hard way LOL

[iron sequoia]

[iron sequoia]

[blissful perch]

I like what I see

I'm glad my idea of scrap metal wasn't out of nowhere either lol

[slate pelican]

This is interesting, tho I need to see actual gameplay before I can be excited for an Ark 2

[blissful perch]

your call - but I for one have been hyped since they showed us the first trailer

[iron sequoia]

Mhm definitely looks nice
Being able to choose handle~blade is nice

Scrap metal looks cool

[untold ingot]

Those weapons look awesome

[slate pelican]

I have zero faith in game development I need to see it to believe in it.

[blissful perch]

you think seeing a trailer will be convincing of development?

a tailored and curated look at specific elements?

[west rampart]

ark 2: coming 2022. It's 2023 and we're just now seeing concept art. I have an amazing feeling....

[stray elm]

@split dove So how goes that 'every 3-4 weeks for ARK-2 info' going?

[slate pelican]

A gameplay view yes. More so than any fancy teaser trailer or literal concept art

[iron sequoia]

But they said 2023

[blissful perch]

but if you have no faith in game development surely you're uninterested in any content other than the full release? Since you'd have to trust that other features not shown are being included

[split dove]

It was the only really reliable esc pattern we saw

[slate pelican]

And depending on how that looks I may not be hyped at all, especially after the announced 'features' of the game not entirely sold on it as I feel it may stray too far from what Ark 1 was and is.

[stray elm]

I know, I was fucking with you

[iron sequoia]

Lol

[iron sequoia]

They did it to throw you off the trail

[split dove]

I'm leaving, you guys are mean

[blissful perch]

I do worry that the stats on scrap metal will smoke the survivor tier

i wonder if we'll see damage types or something else that helps incentivize us players to mix and match tiers...and not just rush to optimal

[slate pelican]

I'm interested but I'm not holding my breath on it. Seeing gameplay is what is important

[blissful perch]

i can't wait to see people who form insane expectations from the gameplay trailer and think that it's somehow a final product reveal

[tropic forge]

hey they throw a pic of sword and shield... soooo coolll, now where is that famous road map? 🤣

[blissful perch]

a weapon type not seen in ark 1, three tiers of equipment not revealed before, and a general sense of how the modular crafting works

Fox: I sleep

[slate pelican]

not sure what you mean by that lol

[blissful perch]

people will see the gameplay trailer and 1.) assume things NOT shown will be present 2.) think that everything they see in the trailer is a 1:1 copy of what the actual game will look like or 3.) pretend their experience will match the trailer

[slate pelican]

I'm already not too keen on the changes they announced with the game, that being Third Person lock I think is just one of the stupidest choices to make for a sequel that was so fluid with both

[blissful perch]

ah I think it's one of the better choices if combat is actually souls like

best choice was cutting the tek tier

[tropic forge]

who cares about that 🤣 95% want more than a pic talking about "unlocking tons of possible combinations to create bespoke equipment that is truly one-of-a-kind" ( in the end is only 3 weapons whit few mods but will see)

[untold ingot]

Ark being fluid with camera is honestly a joke lol. It's really not. Having the emphasis on on camera specifically really should help

Imo the tp only really isn't as big of a deal as everyone makes it out to be

[slate pelican]

Being able to switch between First and third with a touch of a mouse scroll is fluid lol

[untold ingot]

The angle differences is an issue lol, fp and tp always had different angles that they could shoot at

[slate pelican]

was never a major deal with Ark

[untold ingot]

Which is why tp is not a big deal, but seeing modular weapons really is

I can't think of any game with a good modular weapon system, so this could be epic

[slate pelican]

Forcing the player base to suck up and use third all the time kills immersion and is overall annoying when inside your base even

Conan which is what Ark 2 is gonna be taking a lot from has the choice of both

I don't know, that change is what has me the most offish about the sequel. I just don't think its a good idea at all

[untold totem]

Tek bits

"Scrap Metal"

I KNEW IT

[untold ingot]

Ueaj, it looks epic

[blissful perch]

me: referred to this tier in the ancient ark 2 chat logs
Mazzy: it is my predictions that led WC to select scrap tek

[untold totem]

Not owning it still

[vapid panther]

Really hope 'function' means different abilities based on material... metal blade does damage, bone blade does torpor. while bone hilt adds speed and metal hilt adds durability. Then we really have things to work towards other than skins.

[untold totem]

But still, people will just choose the meta thing possible like with flak lmao

[slate pelican]

Yeah there will be a meta and all the others probably are gonna be tossed to the side

[untold ingot]

People do what you tubers say is meta lol

[slate pelican]

People do what the meta is, not Youtubers lol

[split dove]

So, in theory I could make a viral video telling them to go outside 🤔

[blissful perch]

think bigger! Think damage types like blunt and slashing, or stagger, etc

[untold totem]

Tbh that is more weapon specific than material specific

[blissful perch]

the meta is defined by two things 1.) the inherent consistency of ingame stats/characteristics of something and 2.) the exposure said meta has

[untold totem]

As long as the enhancements are similar to the upgrade station instead of tiered blueprints of ARK 1

I am down with that concept

I just want a pseudo Aloy with a saber skull

[blissful perch]

i'm down with no form of direct weapon stat upgrades

keep the player stat scaling at a minimum

[untold totem]

How will you give the players the feeling of leveling up without the use of stat ups?

[blissful perch]

material access

[untold ingot]

Skill tree

[vapid panther]

engram access

[blissful perch]

or levels that don't confer direct stats increases but instead increase the pool of craftable items and abilities

[untold totem]

So people will have the same look because it's the capped stat?

[blissful perch]

if there is ability A through D for level 3 players, level 40 players can use abilities A through X

none may be statistically superior to another, it's just a wider suite of what's possible

[untold totem]

I prefer "pick your favorite look then upgrade it with the materials/enhancements you have"

[blissful perch]

i mean a short upgrade stack like primitive to ramshackle i see as alright

gotta burn mats somehow lol

[untold totem]

Repairs go brr

[vapid panther]

the balance is hard when items get maxed. keeping it to minimal stat changes makes it so the right combo makes a difference- depending on your play style. Im old school and still like tanks, DPS and healers

[blissful perch]

Hermes is after the good ending and I'm about it

[split dove]

And that skill should play a bigger part in the outcome as well. Instead of "my rng blueprint is better than yours"

[vapid panther]

both player skill and character skill. Bobs still need to be able to play with no lifers. It looks promising but ...

[blissful perch]

a bob is gonna be smoked by a no lifers if both (or either) are in play, don't you worry

[untold ingot]

I mean, if they get the balance so that no lifing doesn't stack you insanely against mediocre players it would be a big win

[past wind]

I like that: with unique resources waiting to be discovered in far-flung corners of the world.

[untold ingot]

That is a really big win imo. I want a huge map that makes you travel a long way for stuff

[past wind]

I will be a merchant

Selling special weapons and items to the bobs

[split dove]

Empty thy aratai pockets

[past wind]

I will actually side with them to kill the invaders (humans)

[split dove]

It always leads back to colonialism

[vapid panther]

or cannabalism

[past wind]

I will be the only human to rule them all

[split dove]

Sure

[past wind]

But seriously. I hope there are character buffs to the weapons and items in general

Like the Aratai set should work better when aratai are using them

[vapid panther]

maybe part of the skill tree... learn how to use aratai or metal or poleams etc

[blissful perch]

i would assume Aratai will have stats independent of their weapons

ie aratai with X weapon does Y damage, and with A weapon does B damage

[untold ingot]

Aratai need to be as hard to fight as Conan bosses

[blissful perch]

and they wouldn't be 1:1 with player used weapons of similar tech

[split dove]

Imagine aratai with better speed stats like ark 1 speed gremlins ☠️

[blissful perch]

Lunacy detected from Raq again

[untold ingot]

What?

[blissful perch]

if every fight is a boss, that's not gonna work

[past wind]

Good ol days

[vapid panther]

pretty sure the aratai are gonna scale to the region. beach aratai are simple. mountain aratai are insane

[untold ingot]

Well, to make a melee skill based game fun, the enemy npcs have to be better than the average player

Could be, that would be cool if they could pull it off

[blissful perch]

aratai combat should roughly mirror the duration of two players in foot pvp in terms of ttk

[untold ingot]

I am hoping for a civ 6 esque aratai. Once they find your base they would continuously make raiding parties to come after you

[untold ingot]

Maybe yeah

[vapid panther]

unless you eat their leader then they bring you gifts

[winged dome]

Damn, that's a nice concept reveal

[untold ingot]

I don't want to see stuff like that lol

[vapid panther]

Its the Ark Way. Eat everything in front of you

[untold ingot]

I mean if my Dino eats it, fine. 8 don't want Bob to eat aratai. That's just gross

[lavish rain]

Just saw the concept art

[south lance]

ill do with the aratai what the anglos did in america

ill make it a video series to normalize such actions in real life

[vapid panther]

Im a button masher. Id never be able to beat an aratai. Now i enjoy berry smoothies!

[cinder solar]

Dilophosaurus confirmed ❤️

[winged dome]

Or at least dead ones for their skulls 😂

'Shieldbearer set' - Implies sword and shield are paired and considered a single entity for skills/combat maneuvers, but the sword and shield can be upgraded separately with different materials

I wonder if the 'Aratai Set' just refers to the carved bone/feather ornaments applied to a metal sword/shield base? Or if the Aratai have discovered how to forge metal themselves

[potent hull]

ark2 weapons look good

[limpid hull]

I need a release date

[winged dome]

Soon™️

[astral token]

I meant 1st thing Ill do in ARK II is chug some beer

[fast valley]

if ark 1 is 200gb with maps, i cant imagine how big ark 2 would be

[tropic forge]

you mean 1tb whit maps right 🤣

[lavish rain]

Several terabytes per map

[drowsy jackal]

I think ARK 2 will be 1000TB big. Without maps

[desert swallow]

Ark 2 has a modular release date. You can take any day of the month and combine that with another moth, and possibly even combine it with another year to make over 1 million permutations of a release date.

[tropic crag]

I love combining months and moths

[short fulcrum]

Actually about the ark 2 install size...
Remember that grovestreet are co developing ark 2 with Thomas williams the director of grovestreet even being the development and technical director of ark 2
Grovestreet managed to get the base game install size down to
2.6GB for mobile and 6.3 for switch
I doubt ark 2 will be smaller than 10GB, but it might be smaller than everyone expects

[worldly garden]

Yeah you can get those wintery looking moths, or bright summery ones! 👀

[astral token]

R u living in lala land? Except 100 be happy at 150

Mobile games are compressed asf, and their graphics are 🥔 for a reason

Nowadays, Apple especially makes so fast processors in mobile that the limitation is thermals believe it or not, just like laptops

Snapdragon is no joke either

[short fulcrum]

The point I was making is that grovestreet are really good at reducing the size of games with out sacrificing to much quality, ark mobile and ark switch graphics are incredibly good for how small both games are
Ark 2 will very likely be about 100GB, but that's still smaller than what most people will be expecting

[ionic meteor]

New concept art on customization looks neat!

Also it confirms dilos to be in the game if you focus on the shield on the far right you'll see its skull.

it'll have the same inaccurate size of ARK 1 🫤.

[crude dagger]

Whats wrong with wrong sizes? Its a game, they'll do what they want

They were never aiming for realism in the first place

[proven pond]

Dilo confirmed? skull on sheald

[verbal wind]

could be a young dilo

or just wrong sized skull

plus we dunno how big those shields are

[lime forge]

It also could be the last living dilo was killed and used to make a shield. Dilo unconfirmed.

[iron sequoia]

[lavish rain]

They should consider deconfirming creatures, it'd be more useful the confirming stuff like carno

[worldly garden]

Hopefully it means you can customise which creature skull you can use.

[ionic meteor]

Yes its not always about accuracy and realism but dilos in ARK 1 didn't have much use even early game, there is this mod that adds a accurate sized dilo and it looks cool.

[crude dagger]

its not confirmed

ik there is many mods with dilos

[split dove]

if it's option 2 they're definitely gonna clown on us

[prisma pike]

Nah we need the people who made jwe2 to compress the game for us

[lime forge]

Has anyone wondered what the “35” on the bone sword is all about?

Wait

3-5

Ark 2 releases March 5th confirmed

[edgy oriole]

Or 2035

[astral token]

🤯

[tropic crag]

There is no 35???

Like whe

[lime forge]

There is

[mint swan]

Where

[lime forge]

Very top left

[thin nexus]

🤓

[vivid chasm]

Where are you guys seeing the 35

[ionic meteor]

I don't see it

[astral token]

GSG != WC

[astral token]

Small dilos? Meh is fine

[split dove]

one of the next crunches, take it or leave it

[covert tapir]

idk if someone already mentioned it or if its important

but down right where the scrap metal shield is drawn with chalk you can see the word tek

"tek metal"

[tropic crag]

But... they're working with Wildcard on Ark 2? So, for intents and purposes, GSG = WC iff Ark 2

Also the numbers are imaginary

[split dove]

it's been clear from the start/since the steam page/founders note dropped they're helping Wildcard with Ark 2, but alas we need to refer back to Ark players lacking basic reading comprehension it seems

[tropic crag]

I mean, it's an understandable take if you haven't read all there is to know and retained every bit of info like we have

Some people simply don't want the info to go in 100% blind 🤷‍♂️

I can respect the hustle, I used to be that way at one point

But now, I like to know what I'm paying my hard earned cash for, and if it's even worth it in the long run to be interested

[astral token]

I think developing 2 versions of the game is helping

Doesn’t mesn they’ll active contribute manpower for pc/xbox

[tropic crag]

They're not developing a mobile or Switch version at this time, the game as is presented is being assisted in development by GSG

The version for Xbox/PC

[split dove]

''ARK’s development has always benefited from external teams providing their expertise for ARK’s myriad of content and game systems. Whether it be Instinct Games, Efecto Studios, or another developer that’s partnered with us during the creation of ARK: Survival Evolved, we’ve always leveraged the amazing talent from external studios to create the best version of ARK for our fans.
In that spirit, we’re partnering with Grove Street Games to co-develop ARK 2 and rewrite the ARK Nintendo Switch code with a full revamp of gameplay functionality, graphics, and optimization. Thomas Williamson, the Director of Grove Street, will be Development Director and Technical Director of ARK 2 with parts of the Grove Street Games team also joining ARK 2’s production in a development partnership.''

[astral token]

I see

[tropic crag]

I, for one, am really eager to hear how that assisted in development later on down the line. I know a lot of the teams at both studios apparently mesh very well and enjoy working together...

And happy devs=good game, usually

[mint swan]

@lime forge i see it, but i see more on it also 33 8 35

Yeah i see that to

Also on the scrap metal shield i see alot of numbers

[covert tapir]

well i dont want tek anyway i hope its just the "metal" of the gamew

maybe arat doesnt have metal or its just the same ingredient

[astral token]

Ga mew or gam ew or game W?

[untold ingot]

It doesnt look tek to me

[covert tapir]

well if its a part of a ship it doesnt have to look fancy

[untold ingot]

It looks like scrap from tek, so it might have some cool perks, but I really doubt itll have the same overpowered feel of tek in ark1

[covert tapir]

no cool perks pls just metal xd

[tropic crag]

It's unpowered pieces of broken off tek scrap metal from the ship, I thought we all knew this

I mean, shit, it was literally in the reveal trailer lmao

And then we got SKINS of them

[covert tapir]

skins of a tek scrap shield?

[tropic crag]

No, the skins in said trailer

Santiago's spear and hatchet skins?

[covert tapir]

spear n hatched = shield?

[winged dome]

Wait, those are from ARK2!?

/s

[covert tapir]

im just messing with you might be i dont use skins

[untold ingot]

Yeah the santiago spear and hatchet skins are from ark2

[mint swan]

This metal scrap shield looks like we have seen this before in ark1

Looks like armor from a mek from extinction

[tropic crag]

I was going to mention that, it does kind of look like the foot plate of a mek, lol

[mint swan]

it looks really familiar

No no i know it now

This metal we have only on aberration

Look at the color and shape

If i play ark on raid protection but want to hop onto another server, is my server with raid protection open for raiding? Admin can i get answere please.

[winged dome]

#bobs-with-probs

[mint swan]

What part of the genesis ship drop on arat? Rockwell part or the normal part

[winged dome]

Probably normal. Rockwell bit blew up, but bits of both likely to land

[mint swan]

And the other arks we dont no nothing about if the also drop on arat

[split dove]

Rockwell part was closer to the giant planet/gas giant

[mint swan]

Doesn't make sense it looks so familiar

[winged dome]

Other Arks? Those are back on Earth

Only the Genesis was traveling

[split dove]

the arks reseeded Earth, the colony ship is the only thing that went to Arat

[mint swan]

Ok so then we have only parts of genesis on arat but if you look at the wall meeka is looking at you see a ring and hands praying

Thats rockwell ring or something els

The same ring we see in gen1

[split dove]

the only part of the ship that survived and made it to Arats orbit was the eden ring, the rockwell ring and everything else blew up in space close to the gas giant/bigger moon/planet

[winged dome]

Eden ring, probably. It detached from the Genesis and dispersed life pods to land on the planet

[mint swan]

Ok

[potent hull]

i love the new weapons

for ark 2

[mint swan]

100%

[bold prawn]

When is Ark 2 suppose to released? Kind of gave up on waiting and joined a new dino game 😅

Still curious about Ark 2 tho. When it droppin??

[covert tapir]

i always wonder why some questions cant just be googled lmao

[bold prawn]

It says sometime this year… said the same thing in 2022. 😂

In fact, last I heard was March 2023… and not a peep of an update 🤔

[covert tapir]

so if theres no update you know its not gonna come out and you saved a couple of words

[tropic crag]

That's because that's, uh, the only thing we've heard lmao. 2023 is the release year, no need to pigeonhole themselves by putting a date and having the whiners whine again

"It'll be ready when it's ready, why worry about it?" is my line of thinking

[pearl tangle]

There will be a roadmap later this month

it will say when beta and all that will come out

[bold prawn]

Thank you! 🙏

[bold prawn]

You right, I’ll go whine about it on Path of Titans 😂🤣

At least I dont have to log in weekly to make sure my shit dont despawn 😉

And that even if I do log in and circle my floating Island, I wont lose the stuff that refuses to render if I’m not on top of it so someone else can steal it from me😭

[tropic crag]

Skill issue, also wasn't calling you particularly a whiner, but I mean you said it I guess...

[bold prawn]

Gotcha, they just yankin our chain and there is no such thing as ark 2 😉

[tropic crag]

If you don't have those settings enabled, your shit doesn't despawn, simple as

I love running a cluster where people don't build unnecessarily so I don't have to have those settings on lol

[bold prawn]

Oh, didnt realize I could adjust the settings on official. 🙃

[tropic crag]

LMAO

Playing official, you're asking for the L

[bold prawn]

You’re not wrong.

[tropic crag]

I quit as soon as they fucked us over with the whole legacy debacle

Can't be an alpha on a server that no one plays on because it's been locked off and deleted lol

[bold prawn]

Running my own server was like workin a full time job tbh. Made the chore of ark even more chore like. 😵‍💫

[tropic crag]

Must've had more people join than was manageable, all the people on my cluster are people I know or their friends and it goes pretty smoothly, there's an occasional game related issue but that's what admins are for 😅

Only about half of us are going to make the move to Ark 2, which'll be sad, but worth it

With the way it's going now, tSotF is going to make the base Ark 1 too buggy to play (or already has, if you ask some people)

[split dove]

why only half? if i may ask

[bold prawn]

I advertised to the public and got some needy children. Lol. Offered starter packs which newbs would get killed off within a matter of hours 😂😅

If I make another, it definitely will be more of a friends only kinda deal, tho I have really been obsessing with PoT

[tropic crag]

Some of my players are... well, let's just say, they're akin to some of the chatters here 😅

[split dove]

oh lord

[tropic crag]

Oof, yeah, I hear ya there. The first cluster I played on ended up like that, overrun by children, lol. I'm sorry for your loss

[tropic crag]

Yeah... can lead a horse to water, but you can't make em drink

[winged dome]

🍻

[covert tapir]

sounding like a real cowboy 🤠

[steady vale]

ark 2 will be a loooong old ways off yet considering their still preaching concepts to us, concepts are a sign of not much has been done yet

[untold ingot]

That is actually not even close to true lol

[split dove]

just bc they share the concept Art doesn't mean they just started working on it lol, with the carno one dev said it looks better in-game, so going off that everything they show in art form is already implemented into the game. they might not be allowed to share in-game screenshots until higher ups allow it

[lavish rain]

Pretty sure gen2 concept were being shown even weeks before it launched

[winged dome]

The concept of that post means not much thinking has been done 😂

[split dove]

common ark -31 iq moment

[untold ingot]

Ark2 concept art was given when gen2 was announced lol

[hollow dirge]

I was rewatching the ark 2 teaser, and i realized, there are chunks of the ship crashing onto the planet

it got me thinking, what if there was going to be spots of metal/tek resources?

and like, they're massive

[winged dome]

Like the scrap on Aberration? Or Extinction?

[hollow dirge]

id say extinction

rewatch it and look closely when santiago is looking out the windo

you see meteors of the ship hitting the planet

[stray elm]

The new weapon concept art confirms tek-salvage.

[hollow dirge]

mhm

so many youd have to go to these meteors and harvest the metal

maybe a mini horde mode against the natives?

[sharp cairn]

I'm really not sure this new 'ark' is even going to be Ark like we know it. Seems like they are making it too much like other games instead of unique like we've always known it. I know some people like 3rd person, but I want 1st person option, as do many ppl I know. And the weapons looked too much like other games' version/style. And what happened to showing us some gameplay? Whats with this 'concept' art? Haven't you guys been working on this for over a year already?

[untold ingot]

Yes because 1st person is what made ark1

[split dove]

read on why they share concept art

[split dove]

just like the combat and simplistic player mechanics
a dinosaur survival game as it's core feature is what made Ark 1, the rest just added to it.
You can get first person back with mods, and i forgot that taking inspiration and updating some of the currently bad stuff like combat, movement and many others from current Ark 1 is always bad. you're probably one of those guys that wants ''Ark 1 but better graphics''. if so just play CoD if you want the exact same thing but with updated graphics.

[winged dome]

Half the time, it's not even updated graphics

[split dove]

we see a common -31 iq ark chatter moment at its finest

[potent hull]

hop for the rd map soon soon

[untold ingot]

I mean, the second half of that I feel is directed to the other guy lol

[split dove]

after the is all to him

didn't feel like it to make a new message

[untold ingot]

Ah, that works

[stray elm]

What the fuck are you on about?

[split dove]

my list doesn't lie

[stray elm]

What list?

[split dove]

1 sec

[stray elm]

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

This is much longer then '1 sec'

8

9

[split dove]

not my fault theres a debate inbetween it

[stray elm]

Oi! The fucking bob spamming is great in the #ark-animated-series channel!

[split dove]

ok, and?

[stray elm]

And about you?

[tropic crag]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but games that aren't a cut and paste copy of the last one take longer than a year or two to make, lol. As if we'd want the same shit in a different coat of paint, Ark 1 combat is horribly outdated and simply unfun at times. Why would anyone legitimately want that again? Also, 1st person is not that big a deal, I don't know why everyone sees it as such an issue when we'll have mods on all platforms and I can guarantee you that one of the VERY first ones will be a 1st person mod, so there's that. No reason to panic, just chill and wait for the roadmap like everyone else. Everything's going to be ok 🙂

[split dove]

i still remember shifter falling asleep while fighting a skeletal bronto 🤣

[tropic crag]

Yeah, not surprised with the "event" that was Halloween most years, simple upscaled health stats and a cool skin? Thank you WC, very cool

I remember when they had the cave dinos spawn above ground that one year, coolest Halloween event, bar none

[split dove]

skeletal stegos with TLC dmg reduction are also hell

[tropic crag]

Oh I bet

I don't go farming that shit because I spawn with every earnable skin in the game, lol

[frank plume]

When is ark 2 coming out

[winged dome]

🍻

[fallow niche]

2023 so far

[split dove]

we might have a more specific date with the upcoming roadmap this month, but for now it's just 2023

[tawny sand]

the road map is officially being released?

[stray elm]

This month, yes.

[tropic forge]

🍿

[winged dome]

🍻

[vivid chasm]

Is the date going to be 3/5 for the release date?

[winged dome]

🍻

Whew... Good thing my shift is ending soon, getting dizzy

[fallow niche]

No, there is no release date other than 2023 for Ark 2, and the roadmap is just this month.

[verbal wind]

even then given we haven't even seen gameplay at this point, it might be 2024

[lavish rain]

Tek straps are confirmed I want tek scrap guns

[untold ingot]

How about no lol

[lime forge]

Best we can do is some tek scrap gloves that allow you to throw fireballs

[lavish rain]

Why not just a gun nothing special

[lavish rain]

This I wouldn't mind.

[untold ingot]

Because they make games too easy

[stray elm]

That's a skill issue on your end

[untold ingot]

Too much skill for fun

[flat robin]

how is there still no gmaeplay put out

this is kinda embarrassing now

[vapid panther]

Two different things... you dont like the look or it's overpowered. Tek isnt overpowered as a skin. In Ark 1, the dev seemed to have succumbed to trying to 'one up the joneses' and just made bigger/ stronger things to please the masses. They could have just as easily made slingshots be able to take down a giga. Seems to me they are trying to keep the excitement for new things by giving us modular items instead of just more powerful.

[south lance]

which is a good thing

we need more sidegrade type system

rather than upgrade

a meta will inevitably develop but 95% of the game is still relevant

and there will be edge cases where meta breaks and sidegrades take precedence

this kinda happens alr and the main issue here is that end game resource limits are irrelevant so there isnt a "benefit" to going one route over another, since in the end all routes are easily available and everyone will exploit every playstyle most suited for some context

this can be solved by reducing the ability for people to optimize resource gathering to the extent it has happened in ark, via reduced travel times, maybe reduced rates or reduced total base capacity somehow. Only the latter wouldnt preserve a sandbox game

maybe we will see how tame storage changes now

that will be a big part of this as well, since breeding is so important

and is largely dependent on a tribes ability to mass breed a wide array on dinos

a more simple and tangible way to change this could also just be to reduce player kit sizes by reducing player weight or increasing the weight of gear

im unsure tbh about all of these suggestions though, since usually making things difficult for players doesnt always mean things will be gone, its just that the players with the most resources continue to have access and those with less dont

[nocturne raptor]

All I care about ark2 is an anti cheat

[dark quiver]

It would just get bypassed

[nocturne raptor]

I don't want to see a guy flying with an admin gun from rk1 spawnning in a lvl 1 billion titansuar from ark1

[dark quiver]

Any anti cheat gets bypassed

[nocturne raptor]

But cods anti cheat hasn't been bypassed

[dark quiver]

yes it has

[winged topaz]

somone play on fjordur 1207

[nocturne raptor]

For mw2?

[winged topaz]

maybe

[dark quiver]

Yes

[nocturne raptor]

I played that game and not once have I see a cheater

[winged topaz]

u play on 1207 fjordur ? gaga

[dark quiver]

?who is there

[winged topaz]

?

[dark quiver]

No but who lives there

[nocturne raptor]

So wdym by anti cheat will get bypassed?

[dark quiver]

I have 4-3 times

[nocturne raptor]

What we're they doing

[dark quiver]

esp

flying

and soft aim

[nocturne raptor]

Esp is can see through walls?

[dark quiver]

yes I’m also talking about esp that shows ur health and ur distance and has a box around u

[dark quiver]

Who loves there

[nocturne raptor]

Bro...... with sensitive controls, good hearing and knowledge of where the enemy will be they can easily turn 180 degrees to the left or right of then and kill the enemy

[dark quiver]

no they have it on posting a live stream about it😂

[dark quiver]

Flying? Explain that

[dark quiver]

Hitting someone while facing back wards while killing another person at the same exact time

[nocturne raptor]

But I haven't seen that tho

[dark quiver]

Yea but others have

[nocturne raptor]

All I've seen is campers and sweats

[nocturne raptor]

Did u report them

[dark quiver]

Duh

[nocturne raptor]

I play on console not crossplay, so i haven't experienced that

I play mw1, so nostalgic

[dark quiver]

I play on pc mw2

[nocturne raptor]

Mw2 is way too easy to get stuff done

Like 4 skins to get gold?

But u a ps4 player

[dark quiver]

No

Ps5 n pc

[terse bison]

is it true thats ark 2 will be more story driven

if so then ark 2 is going to be bad

[split dove]

It's gonna have a story, but it's still gonna be like Ark 1 where it normally should be optional. i love when people see a game that has a story and think ''it must be a story driven game''

[lime forge]

Nah. Ark 2 needs a more detailed story. The notes in the first one failed nearly as hard as the combat.

[split dove]

agreed, it should be presented more like Genesis, via missions so it isn't forced down your face

[terse bison]

i just hate story games thats all

thats why i asked

[lime forge]

Well it’s still claiming to be a survival sandbox so it really shouldn’t affect much outside of optionals.

[terse bison]

thats good

[blissful perch]

I’m glad my tale was valuable lol

[rare heart]

Who thinks dilo will be fake stupid little guy or the big awesome guy

[split dove]

little guy, it was never meant to be a fully accurate take on dinos after all, even the new scrap metal shield seems to have a dilo skull on it, wich isn't that large

[blissful perch]

sadly yea ark dilos are probably too much of a household name

[lime forge]

They could at least be ridable

[tropic forge]

🍿

[lime forge]

Oh look. It’s that guy that makes bets and backs out of payments when he loses.

[tropic forge]

👶 🚌 🏫

🍿

[lime forge]

Doesn’t pay up on bets, communicates through picture? Yep. I’m dealing with another toddler.

[tropic crag]

Get tilted

[split dove]

all the way from his own Tilted Tower

[lone pilot]

the only thing i want in Ark 2 is S+ building system as the basic building system.

and i wont mind if there will be like vault subscription so you can store things for more than 24h in obelix.

can't even count how many times i went on vacation for 2-3 weeks or covid lockdown in base (used to serve in my country and came back home every weekend) all my things auto decay and i don't even have basic dinos to farm things to build everything again

[split dove]

all we know about building so far
''Instanced rendering and network-streaming enable much higher client and server performance for large, player-built structures, and a longer draw distance! Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team''

[lone pilot]

oh and the home buff to be fixed.

its stupid it won't work if your roof is 3 walls or higher.

[covert tapir]

you guys gonna play singleplayer or on a server when it comes out?

[tropic crag]

Singleplayer at first, just to figure everything out on my own, then a server with the mates

[covert tapir]

having mates to play with sounds great

[rancid harness]

Server with friends immediately, if not official

[astral token]

Single all the way (not really actually)

Depending on how close an acquaintance gets a server

[split dove]

if we can rent servers on launch i'm renting one to play with friends, otherwise until that happens probably a non-dedicated server if those are still a thing

[untold ingot]

I am still not sure how I am going to play it

[lavish rain]

Then dont

[covert tapir]

feel like discovering stuff multiplayer is way more fun no?

[blissful perch]

Depends. If I wait on some of my friends to play it’ll be a month before I can do anything lol

[untold ingot]

Yeah, 100%. But I won't be playing pvp most likely, and I don't know if I want to try official pve

[lavish rain]

Don't play official pve

Second worst mistake I made in gaming

[blissful perch]

I also strongly prefer to discover and learn on my own…and after that pair up to tackle challenging things in a game. I hate feeling carried

[covert tapir]

ppl that are online all night n day

you go to bed and they finish the game

[blissful perch]

Yep…I can’t learn a new game with them 😅

[untold ingot]

Same lol. I am definitely going to be playing solo and progressing solo, I just don't k ow if I want to do it on a serelver or by myself

[blissful perch]

Great to play coop with once I’ve had time to do what I’d like solo though

[untold ingot]

I just hope that they have sp in a good way first

[blissful perch]

SP vs my own server will depend a great deal on the quality of SP…agree there Raq

[mint swan]

Me to if sp rocks i stay there, dont want to play official it took my life lol

[covert tapir]

if on server then unofficial

the official servers a gonna be swarming with 10 player teams the second they come online

[blissful perch]

There was a time in my life I could have played official…but that time has passed

[untold ingot]

Yeah, I used to have a billion hours a day to play, not anymore

[blissful perch]

I would be rendered single if I played official 😅

[untold ingot]

But even if I play on an unofficial, I want it to be 1x, at most slightly boosted breeding.

[blissful perch]

I’ll prolly start 1x too…I dislike changing rates if idk what the base ones feel like

[covert tapir]

i hope mass breeding isnt necessary that way breeding rates wont be as crucial

[untold ingot]

I mean, if mutation stacking isn't a thing, then for pve it won't be

[covert tapir]

there will probably be single player setting again id guess

[blissful perch]

You mean SP base rates being different from MP? Because I hope that’s true

[covert tapir]

well its like that in ark 1 aswell no?

[lavish rain]

@winged dome AYE! You down to join @blissful perch private server? It's for the sane ark 2 chatters

[covert tapir]

dont see why they would change that

[blissful perch]

It didn’t used to be…and even now it’s only some things

For example I think plant growth rates for farms are the same…for SP/non dedicated as for servers

[untold ingot]

Personally I don't like the idea of sp settings being different than officiak

[covert tapir]

i dont know enough about the setting awnser that

[blissful perch]

I think it’s required that settings for non dedicated SP should be different

[untold ingot]

I would prefer an easy, hard type setting thing that works

[covert tapir]

well in singeplayer the game wont proceed when you log off so it makes sense

[blissful perch]

If a crop takes 48 hours to grow, the baseline assumption is that a client shouldn’t be running that long to work

[untold ingot]

I guess that makes sense. But gather rate and damage rates shouldn't change

[blissful perch]

I’m fine with that. But the time based stuff for sure needs to be tweaked heavily

[covert tapir]

is damage changed?!

[blissful perch]

Yes. All tames have base stats raised

[astral token]

Can’t believe y’all didn’t invite me

[untold ingot]

Yeah lol, every level in sp is like 3 levels normally

[astral token]

I feel rejected & left out 😔

[blissful perch]

Don’t think you were around at inception aroy

[astral token]

I wasn’t

It was during my break, and I was joking

But yes

[blissful perch]

That would be why 😅. I circulated invites months ago dw

[covert tapir]

i feel you

[blissful perch]

Go on you two

[covert tapir]

thats kinda stupid

[untold ingot]

What was it like September?

[blissful perch]

Somewhere in there

[untold ingot]

Yeah, it basically makes the alphas beatable with no mutations

[astral token]

I joined the server on 19th September, 2020 for thw 1st time

[covert tapir]

ahh well i didnt write in this channel before the end of january

[astral token]

Or somewhere around then

Took a long ass break

[fast isle]

I don’t think they’ll make crops 48 hrs to grow because of single player

[astral token]

@loud star didn’t log my OG date can u believe it?

[blissful perch]

I think it’s an ok change…because in singleplayer you don’t have teammates to help. But it does ruin PvE to have a capped spino basically crapped out in a couple rounds of breeding lol

[fast isle]

People have to have 48 hrs of game time to grow crops doesn’t make sense

[blissful perch]

That’s how it is in ark 1

[fast isle]

What really?

[astral token]

User modifications is good

[fast isle]

Bro I never noticed

[blissful perch]

SP doesn’t alter base breeding rates, crop growth, or mating cooldown timers

[fast isle]

[astral token]

Indeed, you need to manually alter

[untold ingot]

It does alter breeding. Something like 6x or something like that

[astral token]

CropGrowthRate is a setting iirc

[blissful perch]

That’s for raising right? Can’t remember if hatching is also changed

[astral token]

Idk why but I feel kinda down ;_;

A sense of apprehension

[untold ingot]

Yeah raising. I am not sure about the hatching and cooldowns

[blissful perch]

Many things are settings for SP…but they shouldn’t have to be dug through lol

[astral token]

This is true

I think 10% of the time is a nice estimate

24 hours —> 2.4 hrs

Maybe like 8% or so

[blissful perch]

Really boils down to what’s acceptable

[untold ingot]

Acceptable would be making it still really hard

[blissful perch]

Imo a crop should take 20 minutes or so to grow, and the challenge be managing fertilizer

[astral token]

An overall setting slider

From 0.1x to 10x or whatever

If you want to fine tune after that go ahead

[blissful perch]

Imo I think stuff like crop growth and mating timers…should be an hour or less in all forms of SP

SP should not be about leaving the game open to mimic a server lol

[astral token]

10% of the time it takes on a server as I said is a nice guestimate

Or an overall setting slider

[untold ingot]

I do think there should be way more variety in what we can grow in ark2. Like I want to plant trees around my cabin

[astral token]

Changes all temporal settings

[untold ingot]

I really want seasons though, and I want them to be harsh

[lavish rain]

Post your most controversial ark 2 take here

[haughty ore]

upgrading ark to UE5 is useless

[astral token]

Tek should’ve stayed

[astral token]

Somewhat, yes

[untold ingot]

That is ark1 lol

Ark2 isn't upgrading, because Ue5 is it's baseline lol

[haughty ore]

true but if they are really doing all hands on deck for ark 2 why are they bothering with UE5 for ark 1

like here its not getting finished anytime soon heres ue5

[untold ingot]

No guns, and useless bows

[astral token]

Need content to make up for delay + covering their bases for if ARK II fails to take pff

[astral token]

Yes guns, but ammo is hard to come by
Yes bows, but need actual skill to fire

[untold ingot]

They aren't doing all hands on deck lol. That is a bad business model

[lavish rain]

I want guns made from tek scraps

[haughty ore]

ark probably still gonna run like shit in UE5 because its ARK lmao

[covert tapir]

its called " 2 seperate teams doing 2 seperate things"

[untold ingot]

Either that or it runs better because it's ue5

[untold ingot]

I mean, maybe. If it takes a lot of skill

[tropic crag]

And they're actually updating with the changes as it goes along, instead of doing what they did before and just not ever updating the engine to the newest build

One of the main issues with Ark 1, iirc

[haughty ore]

Didn't they say in one of their devblogs that the next thing would be gameplay

[untold ingot]

I have like 15k hours playing first person shooters now though. I really like the idea of a game that doesn't have guns

[astral token]

Yes but concept art is better than nothing

[tropic crag]

Yes, but that changed when the whiner nation attacked

[astral token]

Rare whiner nation W if you ask me

[lavish rain]

Hey, it worked, be glad

[split dove]

when in doubt, the whiner nation comes out

[split dove]

the only thing close to a W they ever had/will have

[covert tapir]

being sad till the end of time = ark concept art!?

sign me up

[tropic crag]

Not really, we'd have had smooth sailing until the gameplay reveal if they stuck to it. But I will admit they shouldn't have promised that to begin with, just like announcing the game a year early 😂

I'm a big fan of letting the whiners whine themselves out the door, but maybe that's just me

[untold ingot]

Carno looks fun though

What

[south lance]

got dam bruh

[astral stratus]

Said every Mesher ever

[fallow niche]

Can bring it back to ark 2 please

[past wind]

Is Ark 2 released yet? j/k

[lavish rain]

Ark roadmap

[split dove]

Ark 1 team getting Ark 1 on UE5? that means the Ark 2 team is surely slacking and ark 2 is delayed. /s
oh wait, almost like whatever the Ark 1 team does won't really affect the Ark 2 team that much.

[mint swan]

I still think Ark 2 will be in early access this summer and they will drop uE5 also this summer.

No delay confirmed and last time the said it will delay whas 6 month before launch

[split dove]

it's gonna launch in early access regardless of when it drops

[mint swan]

We know

[lavish rain]

This ark 2 game better be as big as gta

[untold ingot]

I got sick and couldn't do anything for a long time, so I did that

[south lance]

fair enough

[split dove]

still just 2023 as the current date, we might have a more specific date with the roadmap being shared this month, you monkey

[winged dome]

🍻

[past wind]

But seriously, the size of the World is one of the most intriguing Ark 2 features to me. I really need to know what "massive alien world" means LOL

[chrome lodge]

Is the roadmap going to be released this week ?

[split dove]

they only said it would be this month, but the last 2 dino reveals were every 4 weeks, and the latest one was 2 weeks after the carno. so we could get it during any community crunch to be honest. seeing as the weapons one was last week they might share it soon.

[covert tapir]

double ragnarok

triple ragnarok

is the minimum i want

[split dove]

think bigger, double/triple gen 2

[covert tapir]

idk size comparison of rag to gen 2

[split dove]

Gen 2 is bigger

[covert tapir]

ok then triple gen 2 i agree

[chrome lodge]

Ok thanks

[split dove]

Gen 2 was said to be the largest map, but i haven't kept that in mind since Lost Island and Fjordurs scale

[covert tapir]

tho as a ps4/ps5 player i doubt youll get any good news

[covert tapir]

fjordur big aswell no

[past wind]

My bet is 100x the island

[covert tapir]

would love that

[past wind]

If they go the Atlas way: Instead of having 100x different servers with different maps, just release one cluster of servers with one huge world split in multiple regions (in the case of Atlas, split in grids).

[covert tapir]

as long as each place looks different and it isnt just 4 islands

[past wind]

That's how it is in Atlas

[covert tapir]

yeah

Atlas is a big L

[past wind]

middle grids are tropical areas, then they have temperate area and finally polar areas

[past wind]

Not because of their world

[covert tapir]

no

but everything else

[past wind]

they made big mistakes on their gameplay choices

[past wind]

I beg to disagree. LOL

they have nice stuff

[covert tapir]

hmm

[past wind]

what really killed it were the glitches

[covert tapir]

when i first heard that they just reuse ark creatures it was over for me lol

what do they call pt? leatherwing

[past wind]

You never played? Believe me, it's not that bad, If they invested on Atlas as much as they did to Ark, they would hae fixed it.

[covert tapir]

oh i just checked it actually looks slightly different but im sure in the early times it looked excatly the same

[past wind]

That's my whole point, the devs just abandoned it

their roadmaps worth nothing

But, anyway, there a few things Ark must implement

Maybe: the new world system, strucutures that store dinos and you can breed them inside
Already confirmed: souls like combat

[winged dome]

🍻

[covert tapir]

im just checking the wiki, they actually have lots of creatures but so many are just ark with a different skin / fur

[past wind]

TBF, it makes sense to reuse their assets

Believe me, that wasn't the issue

[covert tapir]

well its the issue for me xd

along with the few island variation

[past wind]

The real issue is the devs just abandoned it

[past wind]

Sure, but not what most players complained

Most of them left because the game wasn't improving

[potent hull]

i will name my new weapon in ark2 bob

[potent hull]

and my new weapon will kill bobs lol

[lavish rain]

My new weapon is a tuned tek scrap m4a1

[thick wigeon]

can we at least get a confirmed release date pls

[lavish rain]

We have a roadmap coming this week or next week

[vapid panther]

Atlas was not supposed to be a land based game. Its fine if you stick to the open seas. Ark 2 will have the same issue of making it so all playtypes have a place to call home and still make it challenging late in the game.

[serene blade]

How is there still concepts for ark2? I thought the game was supposed to be released by now

[tropic forge]

its the wonders of wildcard

[potent hull]

concepts art dos not go a way when a game move on throw being made concepts art is still all was a round

[rare heart]

Tbf

The annoyingly long developement times usually are better for a game

I want to think ark 2 has been in development for a couple years now

[split dove]

It clearly has been in development for a long while, probably a while before the first teaser they showed in 2020.
And the reason why it's only concept arts being shown right now is very clear, it's to indicate what will be in the game and what it will look like. Why would you show gameplay super long in advance that can change during it's showcase and release? It's better to show gameplay closer to release, and there might also be heavy restrictions from higher-ups on what they are allowed to share.

[untold ingot]

Tbf, we got shown concept art for ark1 ab just a few months ago. It means they dont want to say too much yet

[split dove]

Don't you mean ark 2?

[untold ingot]

No I mean ark1

[split dove]

What ark 1 concept art are you referring to?

[untold ingot]

It was a twitter post of a bunch of concept art that never made it in

[split dove]

Ah yeah, those ones

[rare heart]

Thats different though?

[tropic crag]

Either way, assuming that them showing concept art means the game isn't even being made yet is a clown take

[rare heart]

ye

[split dove]

Wich we've already got enough of

[rare heart]

I assume there will be very little dinos on launch though

And just like ark 1 will release them in small batches like they did in early access

Especially now since the ai is supposedly better

Honestly i expect like 30 creatures tops 💀

I bet will see like 70% of the creature concepts until release

[split dove]

So far we got the leaf lizard, Aratai, Rex, dodo, raptor, archa, pteradons, brachio, stego, anky and carno confirmed

[rare heart]

Im pretty sure itll be most of the base game animals

Like island dinos, and like a couple aliens

And id expect certain creatures to merge into eachother

And each animal being more complex

[winged dome]

🍻

[rare heart]

like uh, carno 100% has an actual charge attack now

[winged dome]

🍻

[rare heart]

And i bet titano wont be in the game because we have brachi

Or bronto

[potent hull]

my be but i no one dino all was in the game and it is bruising pikmin lol

[rare heart]

Im also hoping sabertooth takes over thylacoleos position

[past wind]

The grid cap limitation is something they did back in 2019. Probably something they wouldn’t repeat in 2023, if they plan to release Ark 2 with a massive world map.

But, well, doesn’t worth to worry about that unless they plan to have a massive world split in grids.

Also it isn’t really that different from Ark 1. People cap the servers to avoid invasions.

It wasn’t that specifically that made people leave the game.

[potent hull]

invasions. of the flobs or no of the bob run run for your life in ark 2 lol

[brittle coyote]

I actually saw on Twitter one of the Artists/Art Directors say something along the lines of "Believe me, it looks even better IN GAME" shortly after the concept art for the Carno was released. It's fair to say that some of these creatures are more than just concept. They are actually in the game right now.

[stray elm]

Well....yeah....

These are concept-arts that're confirmed to be in ARK-2.
That's the idea

[brittle coyote]

That was more aimed at the argument that they are just concept art and nothing has been done with the game itself.

Which the artist more or less verified that the creature has already been brought to life in the game world, not just that it is suppose to be in the game is my point.

[stray elm]

Ahh

Didn't see the argument above.

[desert swallow]

I'm going to miss the arguing here when ark 2 comes out. I hope the arati are programmed to argue with us over whether or not a DLC will be released on time.

[lavish rain]

God has forsaken this chat

[astral token]

💀

[tame compass]

Excited for ark 2 but idk man

[short fulcrum]

The ark gods

[mellow wadi]

Any new news on ark 2 since January I need to know?

[worldly garden]

If you mean release news no, but we've had concept arts shown. But we will find out more stuff in the roadmap later this month.

[mellow wadi]

alright, thanks

[short fulcrum]

[lone pilot]

so are we getting a full game for release?

or new dino every 1-2 weeks like in early access Ark1.

cuz i really liked it that way, it gave a reason to explore the map again and again.

heck, my base was in the area that got updated to a swamp in The island.

even tho i lost my base, it was cool watching the before and after of the landscape.

[lime forge]

It’s initially releasing as early access

[split dove]

Early access launch for PC and Xbox series x/s, we might have a date for gameplay and launch with the roadmap coming later this month. seeing as the ark 2 dinos will be more complex i think it will take longer for new ones to be added. With the better Ai capabilities they're hopefully not quickly chucked out ''raptor clones with different sounds and models'' dinos from early access ark 1 days, where everything only had 1 or 2 attacks and could be changed out for any other ''clone'' dino that does it better. We all want more creatures in Ark 2, but i'm pretty sure we don't want them to be ''raptor clones with different sounds and models'' again like most of them were before the dlcs during the early access period.

[keen summit]

I think the customization of weapons is gonna be one of the best parts of ark 2

[split dove]

yup, i'm hoping rare resources increase weapon stats, but at a very small capped percentage. that's my idea of how we can replace blueprints and get rid of the current divide between primitive gear and blueprint gear.

[keen summit]

That would be cool

Honestly I would accept if it was just a visual thing though

[split dove]

it would be more skill based if you could at max increase a stat by let's say 20% extra of the original stat. so with the upgraded stuff you're not instantly winning as opposed to ark 1 and blueprints

[keen summit]

Yeah but then single player would be a lot harder

[ionic meteor]

I'm very curious to know if blueprints will ever make it to ARK 2 🤔

[split dove]

i hope the component based crafting replaces it completely, and that it like my idea doesn't repeat the mistakes of the ark 1 blueprint and crafting skill vs primitive gear problem we currently got.

[keen summit]

Well honestly I hope it just satisfies my expectations gameplay and graphics wise

[ionic meteor]

I've been thinking the same too yeah with this new system I don't think they gonna find a place to fit blueprints in.

[split dove]

let's hope the roadmap coming this month will have a date for the gameplay, something we've all been waiting for

[keen summit]

Tbh idk what a roadmap is

[ionic meteor]

YES I'm eager to know more soon.

[keen summit]

But gameplay I hope we do see some soon

[worldly garden]

it's a developer plan, roadmaps layout what a company is working on and provides timescales etc.

[keen summit]

Ok thx

[worldly garden]

But how detailed this roadmap will be we don't know.

[keen summit]

Tbh I don’t really care about the map I kinda just wanna explore it myself

[worldly garden]

The roadmap is nothing to do with the map.

[keen summit]

Oh

Then I misunderstood you lol

I reread what you said and I understand now

[blissful perch]

I think it’s confirmed as a reward from missions isn’t it?

[split dove]

lemme look at the founders note rq

[blissful perch]

I see blueprints as being more about how to make something and less about the same thing but better. It would be cool if blueprints replaced some basic engrams (using ark 1 terms) and material choices (and experimentation) replaced the miserable process of BP farming and subsequent game breaking qualities the blueprints have

[split dove]

''Events include procedurally-dynamic scenarios like watering hole gatherings, wounded creatures, tracking the signs of advanced prey, stampedes, herds, defending endangered creatures to earn their trust, finding dens of parent creatures and their young, and more. Whether you choose to engage with these events is up to you, and each can yield unique rewards and challenges.''

[blissful perch]

Could have sworn there was a quote about completing story to unlock stuff too

[split dove]

it definitely shouldn't be like equipment blueprints and crafting skill if it does return in some form 😅

nothing like that in the note

[blissful perch]

Ugh now it exists in my memory holes. Maybe the pax interview? I’ve twisted it all together

[split dove]

i don't really want to revisit a stream for a memory hole

[blissful perch]

Lol that’s fair

I may have gaslit myself with my own chats on this one

[split dove]

wouldn't be surprised, that's the closest you get to full on Lotus moments

[blissful perch]

It’s the sanest form of insanity

[split dove]

anything else you thought was in the founders note you want me to look for?

[blissful perch]

Lmao I don’t think so. But I appreciate you for it

[split dove]

i keep it open when i browse this chat, to give the factual info if asked for

[blissful perch]

I still want my vision of blueprints though 😂

[blissful perch]

Respect. I’m usually on my phone lol

[split dove]

with the building template stuff i can kinda see it like that

[blissful perch]

I don’t want Raq’s psycho take of note based blueprint unlocks…but the one thing I did like about tek was that it provided incentive to progress through the game via unlockable blueprints

[split dove]

9/10 Raq takes are insane tbh

[blissful perch]

He was once sane…those days seem behind us lol

[split dove]

he's become the reverse Lotus

[split dove]

it's what we call ''ark chatter logic''. it basicly refers to people that think one way and won't listen any other statements, even those with confirmed factual info. you can tell them everything from official sources and they won't let go off their hot takes, as they only believe their own weird takes.

[blissful perch]

Dw, I’ll find a place to speculate about DLC the day ark 2 comes out

[brittle coyote]

Yeah, I've noticed this happen a few times. It's quite tragic, actually.

[split dove]

it's why we jokingly say the vocal majority of the ark community has a combined iq of 31. they just spew out nonsense without really thinking sometimes 😅

[wispy sierra]

guys ark 2 will be singleplayer only story mode because my uncle works at wildcard

[opaque ferry]

Can ur uncle leak pls 🥺

[mint violet]

ark 2 just gonna be aim bot

mesh

dupe

[worldly garden]

Then clearly your uncle should be sacked if he is the reason it will be singleplayer only story mode. 🤣

[untold ingot]

Wait, what is my take on blueprints?

I have kind of forgot lol, I have gotten to the point I just throw out random ideas just to have something to talk about

[lavish rain]

You said they should be removed

Rare raq W take

[untold ingot]

Rare?

All my serious takes are Ws 😂😂😂

[lavish rain]

Oh honey

Most your takes are Ls

There's a reason we call you the guy with insane takes

[split dove]

we call Raq ''reverse Lotus'' for a reason, Raq has insane takes, while you're actually insane

[untold ingot]

Tbf, most of my takes aren't serious

The only ones I care about is nerfing fliers and cryos. The rest are just conversation pieces lol

[lavish rain]

Your cryo take is an L

[untold ingot]

Lol

I think its necessary, it makes it less convenient in exchange for balance and consistency

[mint swan]

Can you ask your uncle if he can leak the game play trailer we all are ready to pay him 😬

[minor prism]

For ark 2 I feel like it needs a better system to catch thief’s in and around your base like I don’t know what or how but the fact that you cannot tell who’s stealing is a madness and it would help if there was an item in game that caught the person doing that shit 👍

[untold ingot]

There is. Tek sensors. You can also lock doors, so don't leave stuff out in the open

[minor prism]

🤦‍♂️

[winged dome]

🍻

[rare heart]

You mean just have dinosaurs that actually guard stuff?

Like what like dilo and 8 other creatures are supposed to do

[minor prism]

We need a BETTER way of catching these people all though that tek sensor probably can help my situation here….. il update u on the process lol

[minor prism]

🤔 it’s a thought ngl

[rare heart]

well i dont think were gonna have legit tek stuff anymore

Why not just have certain tames that are designed to be guard dogs

Since hopefully the game will have better ai

and hopefully better combat meaning dinosaurs arent just reliant on just high stats to do a decent job in damage

[minor prism]

It needs to be against your own tribe to tho since the problem persists inside the tribe

[rare heart]

So that you can have “guarddogs” that can fit into bases

Like dilo and hyaenodon

[rare heart]

Oh,

[winged dome]

Or maybe only tribe with people you trust

[rare heart]

idk how youd do that honestly other than having certain structures that can be set to have acess to just you

You could have structures that could have an option to be private even in tribes

[minor prism]

Imagine you have multiple bases and your taking on new guys and the new guys are stealing from one of them bases there is no certain way to catch the person red handed like I feel ther should be some form of item or creature that does that

My man had the right idea with tek sensor but it’s still not giving u enough info

[rare heart]

So items that cant be broken or acessed by the ppl not whitelisted

[winged dome]

Thats what tribe ranking access is for

It literally already exists

[minor prism]

Maaaan it’s an admin…..

Stuff is rank 10

[rare heart]

Im confused then

[winged dome]

See again: tribe with people you trust

[rare heart]

i think stealing stuff Inside a tribe is like too hard to avoid

[minor prism]

What my Guna do demote every admin I have 😂

[rare heart]

and adds a whole other dynamic to gameplay

[minor prism]

Fuck me over more than the thief see

[rare heart]

political corruption

tbf every pvp tribe ive ever been in were pretty trusting or just communists

[minor prism]

Is this tribe got 100 members 😂

Mine does

[past wind]

I will, again, give an example from the game that shouldn't be named: It has a way more complex system of companies, alliances and land claim

[rare heart]

So u want tames ti eat tribe members if they break a rule

[past wind]

I think that's the way to go

[rare heart]

I wouldnt mind having small dinosaurs that can dmg people in the tribe

[minor prism]

Nah I just need to catch the thief my bro

[past wind]

In there you can share land with other companies, and they pay taxes to the land owner etc

[minor prism]

By any means necessary it just seems that a lack of tools on ark to help with the situation

When a tribe is a big part of ark

You’d think it would have more options

[winged dome]

But like

There are options

[minor prism]

Tek sensor?

[winged dome]

You're ignoring them and just complaining.

[minor prism]

Tell me how that says who the thief is?

[past wind]

Putting people in your inner circle of players, means you trust them.

[minor prism]

I need a definite answer not a maybe

[past wind]

You give admin to people you don't trust? ANd then complain they steal things?

[minor prism]

It’s an admin so it’s Guna cost big time if I get it wrong lol

[rare heart]

This lol

[winged dome]

Actual clowning

[minor prism]

Maaaaaan so yh let’s not let anyone advance and let’s keep them all as tribe bobs got it 😂 because that’s how u keep a big tribe running is it boys🤔

[lavish rain]

This is what I mean

[rare heart]

Yes

Government

[minor prism]

Dull as fuck if u think that bro people deserve a chance and u not giving them one is Guna get u insided anyway 😂

[rare heart]

thats just ppl

But idk why youd ever do a 100 person tribe

[minor prism]

No offline timer

[lavish rain]

Official players

[minor prism]

People ain’t tryna turn ark into a full time job

[lavish rain]

Official players are wild, I know first hand, as, oh, I don't know, a tribe leader on official

[rare heart]

That is still insane i managed fine with around 30 ppl

Even that is hard to manage

[lavish rain]

I had around 30-50 people per server across 9 servers

[blissful perch]

You stated they should be tied to explorer notes sitting out in the world

So if one note is gated rip access to that blueprint

[rare heart]

Then just dont allow building on the notes

[lavish rain]

What kind of troll logic is that

[untold ingot]

That was more of an interpretation of what the steam page said, not really an idea of mine

[rare heart]

freedom to build absolutely everywhere is what made ark a poopy game for pvp

[lavish rain]

Woah how would we do taht

[untold ingot]

Just blow it up, ez

[rare heart]

That too but

[blissful perch]

You argued “it should work that way” is my recollection

[rare heart]

Just like…. Dont allow ppl to build on it? Crazy thought for ark players

[blissful perch]

The other option is to have instanced missions

[untold ingot]

Tbf, that isn't far of from what the steam page suggests

[blissful perch]

Don’t recall the steam page or anywhere implying the return of ark 1 style explorer notes

[rare heart]

Yeah nah they shouldnt

[blissful perch]

@split dove I summon you to confirm

[rare heart]

Thatd be dumb

Or atleast…. Dont have fucking 1000 of them

Like goddamn

[untold ingot]

"Gain both experience points from gameplay, and knowledge points by accomplishing key objectives and overcoming unique challenges, to progress along a massive skill tree filled with new active abilities, perks, and passive benefits."

[blissful perch]

I never really liked the notes system and I really disliked the double exp

[blissful perch]

“Key objectives = ark 1 explorer notes” is an…interpretation

[untold ingot]

I dont like notes either, I do like the idea that you'll have to go around to get stuff

[untold ingot]

I don't want ark1 explorer notes, they are one of the most broken items in the game lol

[blissful perch]

We agreed the exp was dumb. But your old argument (which to be fair you may no longer have) was that fixed explorer notes should be a source of essential blueprints

[untold ingot]

Notes, or missions, or events. Doesn't really make much difference to me, as long as you have to leave your base to progress. That's all I want out of that

[blissful perch]

I’m down for that purpose

[untold ingot]

So it's not an insane take lol

[blissful perch]

Your current take - not insane

Your old take - which was that they had to be tied to to physical notes out in the world that you had to visit to get the blueprints…now that I can’t say is sane

[untold ingot]

That was speculation lol

My current and old take have always been that there needs to be a system that forces you out of your base in order to get mid/late game progression. It would make pvp more active, as well as making pve less breeding simulator. Although if battery turrets are a thing that would make it a significant problem for pvp, which is why I want turret defenses to be plant or npc based only

[split dove]

what do i have to look for

[rare heart]

The game is centered around pve more inorder for there to actually be enjoyable content? Instead of relying on genocide 24/7 and people being the only form of content

[untold ingot]

What

[split dove]

''ARK 2’s main narrative tells the story of a father and a daughter (“Meeka” played by Auli'i Cravalho!), of betrayal & broken promises, and the strength of the family bond – and of course, it’s a story of badass giant dinosaurs. But even more importantly, this is about players’ own stories – like any good persistent-world online survival game, ‘Survivors’ in ARK 2 each have their own unique path through the game, as they form their own tribe, make their own friends, and attempt to build their own creature-aided civilization.'' that's everything. founders note is just steam page description but more detailed

[untold ingot]

I personally see no indication that ark2 will be pve centric

[rare heart]

I do

Like everything it says on its page

[untold ingot]

The only thing even moderately suggesting that is that there might be story quests.

[rare heart]

Not really

[untold ingot]

Really

[split dove]

pve is getting more love compared to it's Ark 1 version, that doesn't mean it's gonna be more pve centric. imo i think it's gonna be a healtier mix between pve and pvp, wich Ark 1 was kinda more pvp focused iirc

[rare heart]

The fact that there is now world events, better ai, enemy races therefore functioning like the forest. Hopefully more in depth mechanics

There will be more to do in a pve sense. Since ark 1 functions very simplistically meaning it is very boring. And its only fun aspect being pvp

i assume why they say souls like

[untold ingot]

World events already exist in extinction, better ai is just needed. That doesn't mean the game will be pve centric

[split dove]

Extinction osds/element veins and genesis missions were testing grounds for the upcoming world event system.

[rare heart]

while you can fight ppl in darksouls but its not the main focus

You only do those events for pvp anyways mostly. They are not engaging at all

[untold ingot]

Conan is souls like, and you can definitely fight people lol

[rare heart]

there are no world events that actually test players

[blissful perch]

I think PvE improvements strongly improve both gamemodes

[split dove]

it's part of both modes, so improving it will ultimately benefit both pve and pvp tbh

[untold ingot]

Souls like combat does not mean that it is a souls like game. It just means there will be probably less flamethrowers and shotguns

[rare heart]

Errrr

[blissful perch]

Ideally nobody refers to ark PvP as anything but a PvPvE experience but that remains to be seen

[rare heart]

I think it means like dodging and move combos and such

why its also third person

i dont think it having no guns makes it souls like

[untold ingot]

That is what they say it means

[rare heart]

Whyd you say just more primitive?

Being souls like doesnt refer to being primitive but more or less its control scheme and its combat

the main purpose of that game was dealing with the environment

[split dove]

new combat and player movement probably wouldn't work that well in first person without it looking janky if not done right.

[rare heart]

And sometimes players can interfere hence pvp

When i think souls like i imagine the ai being more of a pain in the ass than the players

because youll be interacting with ai more

[blissful perch]

I think the AI needs to be a threat in PvE and PvP contexts to make ark 2 a next level product

[rare heart]

yes

And have events be forced upon people rather than having them be for peoples convinience

in a world event sense

[blissful perch]

I think events should be somewhat optional

[rare heart]

Because ppl will raid bases etc already

[untold ingot]

They say it'll be primative elsewhere, souls like is only for the combat mechanics. The game will not be a souls like game lol

[split dove]

lemme get the quote rq

[rare heart]

Depends on what it is

dinosaur stampede? Literally not optional

[split dove]

''the new World Event system is designed to ensure that unique things are always happening around the world, whether you are there or not. Events include procedurally-dynamic scenarios like watering hole gatherings, wounded creatures, tracking the signs of advanced prey, stampedes, herds, defending endangered creatures to earn their trust, finding dens of parent creatures and their young, and more. Whether you choose to engage with these events is up to you, and each can yield unique rewards and challenges.''

[blissful perch]

I’d say a stampede is optional if you hustle on out of there lol

[blissful perch]

See? Optional 😂

[rare heart]

well thats not optional you just avoided it

[blissful perch]

The option is to engage or not - thus optional

[split dove]

i'm the librarian of this chat 📖

[rare heart]

Still need some that arent optional

Like natural disasters or meteors

Well those are the same thing

[untold ingot]

Seasons would be nice

[blissful perch]

I’m kinda not sold on “non optional” events. A meteor hitting my base while I’m offline sounds like buns

[rare heart]

well its a meteor?

They happen almost never And can land anywhere

I think theyd be fine if they functioned reasonably

[untold ingot]

Its bad game design when your base gets shredded by something like that when you are offline

[rare heart]

Wildfires? Like bruh

[rare heart]

When theres a .1% chance itll actually happen though

Itd be funny

[blissful perch]

It would be irritating and possibly rage quit inducing

[rare heart]

If the game functioned like poopy ark 1 then yeah

[blissful perch]

Or funny I guess? I guess on boosted servers where your progress doesn’t matter much

[rare heart]

im hoping this game corrects the first one

if it is more primitive then recovering from a natural disaster isnt as punishing as say

My metal military operant base with 50 indie forges getting meteor striked

[past wind]

Something like atlas, where the latitude and longitude of the grid is determinant to the biome. Plus seasons would be amazing.

I like the idea of having, tropical, temperate and polar regions

[rare heart]

Like if they want a dynamic engaging environment then this stuff should be considered

[untold ingot]

Primative doesn't mean you won't want a significant base spot lol.

[untold ingot]

I'm not picky about the regions, I just want it to snow everywhere lol

[rare heart]

Ok?

[blissful perch]

Agree with this