#ark-2
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you might just make this skill supercede the other skill branches
if you can have any number of skills then maybe thisd be a cool early game grind
it wouldnt nerf flyers though
but with a limited number of skills, idk i cant see flyers so weak that this isnt basically a required skill to play the game
Wow, I just had a crazy flash of tame specializations and such that would both be really cool and actually make sense, I gotta go write this down
write it down here
Basically though, you know how there were tribes on the Island that had a majority of one type of dinos? The Painted Sharks, the... other... tribes? (I can't remember their names, I'm going on hour 48 or so of being awake.)
Well, what if that translated
to gameplay
It would be so sick to have players that specialized in either traditional land dinos, or water tames, or flyers, and got something for it (special abilities or something, I guess? Idk, it's not set in stone obviously)
Anywho, probably time I slept, huh? Discuss amongst the class
I can't wait to see the fingerpaintings when I get back
This was done in some of axemanās tribe wars seasons, where people had restrictions on what could be tamed based on their tribe
I think in general though itās not viable. Unless itās a skill tree thing where you can āspecā into taming or training certain creatures classes within a tribe
it approaches more rpg type gameplay, idk if ark players generally like that but i can see it happening and being cool
i think a majority of ark players are gonna be generalist tho
unless the game has such a huge amoujt of content in every aspect that you have more than emougj to do in any specialization
Stay awake cuz you'll hallucinate and trip balls
have there been any ark2 news recently? any gameplay or perhaps a less general release date than 2023, like the season or month?
All current info is in the pins. Still 2023.
Ark and itās most avid players are playing for the RPG. Breeding is basically built like an RPG, leveling and most of the experience of crafting BPs is like an RPGā¦
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The massive bulk of the ālongevityā for ark 1 is the RPG. The survival game elements are rushed down and completed pretty quickly for most vets
ya but there isnt a necessity to specialize into breeding, less locking into a single role basically
you have access to multiple roles unlike other rpgs where you spec into some class
Many RPGs have flexible class speccing though, where you canāt be multiple at once but can readily swap between classes
you definitely have people who do specialize to some extent in ark1 but its nothing like the systems in most rpgs or the stuff outlined above
i suppose if its flexible enough then its like ark ya
its not like youll be raiding while youre breeding after all so you basically are switching roles in ark, just without any fancy UI to tell you about it
shame, thanks though
people mindwipe to spec into crafting even just to make enough arrows or something
but all of this is dependent on how flexible this all is
and like, if your tribe specializes in breeding a specific kind of tame then it doesnt seem very flexible
you cant just switch breeding projects after all since they are going to be major time commitments
i suppose your own character is separate from this
so you can just leave and do whatever if you want
Iām definitely ok with an rpg based character progression and even a story line, as long as it maintains the open world survival sandbox gameplay.
fair enougu
nobody would know until they dropped the gameplay trailer a few days later and say it's out
i get why NDA's are a thing, but it's keeping almost all info from us until Microsoft says they can
So in theory blame the possible microsoft NDA
There's no talk about Microsoft having this much of a involvement.
They could've easily paid for a exclusivity deal, and be done with it.
^WC may also not want to talk a lot about ark 2 š
Which is the likely thing.
It could be a little of both, but Iād be unsurprised if there was hesitancy from the studio in sharing details before a big gameplay reveal
Last time we heard of ARK-2 was them talking about the gameplay trailer, and how "they wanna show gameplay in a more stable build" or something like that, iirr.
Iām very much in the ātake the time thatās neededā camp, but given the hysterics about SotF Iād not be surprised if WC doesnāt want to make people āprefearā any more than necessary
I just wish they didn't shoot themselves in the foot, and said "the next 'major' thing we'll show is gameplay"
Cause I would've loved to see more concept-art. 
Definitely would have been cool to see more concept art of soft confirms like the anky
Soft lol
Less letters = more good
More good
'TefglaGLRGoerfaefagh'
āTā š
'Tetanus'
Point being, Iād like to see concept art for the parasaur or somethingā¦which would soft confirm some old ark 1 creatures without really requiring gameplay reveals
Ark 2 kapro or sarco concept art for example would be šš¼
Hell, I'd be down to see concept art of existing things confirmed.
You mean like rex bronto etc? Iām not against it but Iād like to be able to squeeze some extra gameplay info out of them lol
i mean it's probably better to not show early gameplay stages as some parts of the community tend to react ''more extreme'' and instead show something closer to release as they're probably planning to do
the year of ark2 is her pray they do not alter the deal lol
''it's 2023, now where is ark 2?''
did you read what is say is funny
i did, and this is probably the most readable message i'll ever see from you
ether a readable massage or my rex in ark 2 will see you first
However, a small hopeful event would be appropriate.
I think they thought to themselves that it was not so good to announce in game recordings as nextes.
If they now increase the team because it is not as fast as they hoped and show concept images only gibs equal grumbling because they have promised in game recordings.
A few concept arts about which you can discuss would have been nice.
but next time they say any thing a bout ark 2 will be game play
It's the year of the rabbit, so hopefully it's also the year for ARK
Then let's wait and see when the next game awards are in 2023, then we'll hopefully know more.
the next game showcase events, game awards is always in december
Lets just hope this isn't another 200gig download
basicly should be like early access release ark 1 size if not a little more, as it should be more optimized
Ok nice
so my current guess is like between 40-70 gb
I canāt wait
Finding out what creatures could be in the game for example? And yes, everyone knows you have to first wet the concept art to squeeze out the best gameplay info
Ahhh, you gotta squeeze the ink out to put it into a soup to consume the knowledge?
You gotta wet it with salty gamer tears, then you gotta toss it into a press to extract the raw gaming knowledge
Evaporate and cook in the 300 degree oven of an official PvP playerās brain (itās very smart and thus runs very hot) for about 20 minutes and now you have some sweet knowledge
the deadly shifter in ark 2 see how he hunts his pray lol
Ark could be a contender for game of the year 2023 if its as good as we think
If they promise everything on the steam-page, I can see this
Itās gotta be way more AAA and mainstream imo, I agree with person
Then again, not to be rude, but who gives af about game of the year š. If itās your personal favorite I think thatās plenty
Oop
Well, hopefully this is true but I won't swear to it since Wildcard hasn't given us an official date, plus it can change at any time. Here ya go
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1609681671036764163?t=SxUNnKjRQPDspzQKMuIcJg&s=19
Yea Xbox said that at their Last game show
Iāll buy that. I agree that a June target for ark 2 was certainly plausible
But pretty sure stalker 2 already delayed lol
I know, it was just tweeted though.
That being said ZERO people should be shocked if that target is missed š
May as well pin tho to save me the trouble of repeating that info for folks. Good find Bee 
I don't know if they'd like that pinned
I'll ask though
True
Yeah, they could've easily have just put ARK-2 there since they heard a that it 'may' come out in June 2023.
Iāll take the word of microsoft that itās slated that ark 2 hits in May or June of 2023. Who can say if thatās whatāll actually happen tho
its just a target date. wildcard has missed many target dates threw the years
tbh we need another post from dolly or ced. id say once a month of some type of update
i think we will kinda get something along those lines after the gameplay is revealed (until then our best kinda reliable news source is Jeremy)
do you think the ark 2 game play may com out in this month or more tors march
and may be past it
From what the latest Jeremy tweets imply we're kinda very close to seeing gameplay, January i don't know, but imo i think it will be before March
sow maybe in the mid of next month
Hopefully this year 
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
niceee ark 2 is coming june confirmed
:/
Not confirmed lmao
game awards
it's targeting a june release
Not confirmed lol
I even said that in the share
cmon Bob, i thought you were smarter than this
it's confirmed my man
im sure, the xbox game pass roadmap and now game awards saying it's targeted to that month
targeted dates can always change bc delays
I knew I shouldn't have shared that, but someone was bound to bring it up anyway, so I added my 2 cents with it
the game play video cant be to far a way we no they want people to play the early steam release of ark 2 (edited)
i seen it myself lol
I figured, it would've been one of the regular lot in this channel 

though im sure we'll see the gameplay march august if it's coming around june
oh yeah its getting brought up streamers are finding it
le cat
add bob in the game play of ark 2 as food lol
That's why I pointed out it can change at any time and it isn't confirmed
my honest reaction to this chat 90% of the time
Is this a 'judgement' stare, or a 'approval' stare?
im sure she's approving
haha
hahah....
Little panicked tbh 
Also, I still wanna know about that 'thicc juicy ass' Dollie was talking about last-night. 
I'm still confused.
wot
Look at her tweet from last-night.
oh right, i remember now
She wished us all of the good things.
Even a 'Nice thicc juicy ass'
Damn, leave it to Dollie to wish us an ass, when we gamers don't go outside enough to get ass. 
The goal that's out of reach.
true
Unreachable ass
Unassable ass
Shouldve save a screenshot lol
Anyway, I hope for gameplay either this or next month.
Not gonna lie, I personally don't wanna wait half of a year for the next gaming event to get gameplay. 
Let the Xbox folk be our beta testers instead lol and who knows, someone is gonna make a "before you buy" video
I have an Xbox and a decent PC, so I'm cool with that. 
Oh god, Dollie is typing.
Am I in trouble?
And she stopped?

....what?
LoL
And she went

I guess avoiding spartan is part of the NDA
Aye, if avoiding me is part of their NDA. I'd feel honored.
Now I'm wondering if she's fucking with us
She's been typing on and off for a bit, then she started with the cat states
Hmmm.
Wonder if she's just stalking us, and forgot that her cursor was on the typing-bar
Oh, also.
Happy New Years everyone.
Sheās likely debating if itās worth messaging anything here š
Basically
True
Also Iād cat emoji if I found out microsoft dropped a date out of nowhere ššŖ¦
Even moreso if I knew my community would latch onto it worse than a lamprey and use it as rage fuel if a delay happened
Imagine that was unplanned, and Microsoft just fucked them over.
come on man, you know the anger therapy sessions are just too long and expensive for ark players
(but they will happily grind/tame for days on end and potentially buy dinos for real money)
it seems it's a summon ritual
Alright, who's betting that she'll stop and wont come back for like 4 minutes, then type again?
I'll bet 20$ USD
She's having to spear the cats away

She's doing the clickaty clackaty again š

I will be waiting, until we get a single letter she accidently sends
Stop scaring her away lmao

Hmmmmmmm
Nah
I'm ruining our chances of ARK-2 details.
And then I will proceed to complain "why don't we have details of ARK-2?" in like a week
Maybe it's going to be a tweet or something
They are probably assuming that for the same reason we did in here, the game pass banner
"Fuck it, I'm not dealing with this idiot, I'm tweeting this shit."
Lol
the very special Spartan-specific NDA
Nah, I think her reaction is more about the TGA tweet than anything
"Whenever a user by the name of 'Spartan073003' is present. You shall not disclose any information of the project 'ARK-2' to anyone, until they leave the server"
No shit.
it puts pressure on their marketing people
Aren't TGA is owned by some game lobbying group or something
Something like that
kinda like that
Welp, we'll never know what Dollie had to say.
Good job boys, we ruined our chances of ARK-2 stuff and it was worth it.
LMAO
It does infact look like I've won
Holy shit, she's still going. š
yes.
God fucking dammit
haahhahah
How long have you been Dollie?
just now
Damn, didn't know Dollie was a dude
the other one was the real one ahahaha im not that much of a troll
Welp, I think I've won
yessir
yes
good
you are fails

Fr?
Imagine ark 2 isn't available on mobile IMAGINE
i mean, since they should release gameplay soon, the base should be done, just some QOL and some other things to add , bugs to fix, and it may actually release this year
given that they do in fact release the gameplay soon as they should've some time ago
I think they were about to start working for a version for mobile but abandoned it or left it for later on
Also, for those who donāt know yet
According to the game awards twitter, Ark 2 is targeting end of June for release.
game awards is wrong,stalker is also in that list and now way its coming out so soon
Allegedly
Lets just hope they don't screw up the early access launch of Ark 2
by charging full price for it and it still being bad
For their sake
Ark 1 already got them the reputation of releasing paid DLC for £15 while it's early access
They joined the crowd of "shitty early access games"
I would at no point in Arks life considered it shitty
I would have at launch in 2015
2016 they released scorched as a paid dlc in early access, 2017 the WC parent company made wildcard waste their time making Atlas
you do know early access games can't be the same price as actual normal game launch prices right?
some companies don't know that
And honestly why are we paying to playtest their game
Best case scenario its free/costs £10
Bro Iāll throw money at the wild card devs like itās my last night as a single man and Iām in a strip club. Just makin it rain for Ark 2.
I want ark 2 as much as anyone
I'm just scared wildcard will make shitty decisions
Iāll drop a Benjamin on it without batting an eye
what if Ark 2 is a bad game with no replayability
all I want with Ark 2 is for it to be fun and infinitely replayable like Ark 1
My thoughts on the matter are this. Wild Card has already developed what I would consider to be one of the top 3 games ever created already. Definitely the best of its genre. I have full faith.
i'm scared with the dark souls combat,doesnt seem fun when you go do big wars
See I think it sounds more fun.
I think though if wildcard hasn't listened to us worrying about it they must be really confident in their combat
Arks current combat is atrocious. It is one of the only things Iāve found to complain about.
snoozefest combat
It can't be worse than the current combat system
It's buggy, poorly optimized and the pvp is terrible
Pvp was not wildcards priority and that really shows
But the PVE imo is really boring and directionless
getting from 0-100 is too fast
as in lvl 0 to lvl 100
Wish there was something to stop note rushing
Yeah. Iām really hoping improved AI and the Aratai being a hostile faction will change that. Nothing currently gives the feeling of fear in PvE.
no It's not just notes
being a speed gremlin also reduces danger
Good point
You shouldn't be unlocking 5-10 engrams per level
Yeah Iām ok with speed being an upgradable stat but it needs a hard nerf. No way should I be able to outrun something like a raptor.
If there were certain objectives you have to complete before leveling up every 10 lvls that could help fix it
thats what i really miss about pve,the fear... i kinda liked it when in extinction glitched lvl 300 wyverns had a chance to fuck you up if you didnt have a strong base
Eh, that kind of takes away from the sandbox and shoehorns you into doing something though
Fair
Unless you leave a wide variety of choices when it comes to these objectives, but still yeah
Now if it were something like your skills were to low compared to your level and you had to take the time to raise them before advancing actual levels Iād say that would work better.
I kinda hope taming effectiveness isn't a thing in ark2, makes high level creatures overpowered, same with ark1
Makes it easy to run from everything or just kill everything
Iād be ok with a small taming boost. But I really want a system that focuses more on training on an individual level to get the most out of a tame.
The reason being all that PVP specific tames and stat breeding mutation made PVE trivial
PvP and PvE imo only work together
not one without the other
the reason ark pvp is fun is because of the loot you get that they farmed through pve
I mean have you seen the megatribe controlled server?... PVE doesn't exist there
ye because it's already done for them
PVP is the reason why PVE is "too easy"
ye
Because pvp finds ways to do it quickly
I mainly played pvp which is why I find pve so easy and boring
Especially with stat mutation breeding
which is sad cuz I wish I could enjoy pve
But I'm naturally a competitive gamer
I just quit ark pvp cuz I had no one to play with, everyone is so toxic
Sadly that is what happened if you start PVP
I definitely donāt want all my power to come from a breed line and imprints again. I want breeding, and I want it to be a way to improve the power of a tame but I want it to be more of a small min/max kind of thing. Then an actual training mechanic that requires people to invest more into individual tames as opposed to just mass breeding an army.
I have 1500-2000 hours spent on pvp
I don't want to have the best way of breeding to be by getting the lowest lvl female cloning it and stacking them in a row
Same
The funny thing is that the current breeding system is already Min/Maxy
It is better to get rid of it and leave breeding to cosmetics or gaining extra tames
Imprinting is small compared to actual mutation especially generations of mutations
Min/Maxy sure. But itās literally where all the power comes from. I just want a small amount of power out of breeding. Maybe something that kind of just directs what the line is intended to do. Breeding for a small-medium boost in harvesting or combat, transport things like that. Where any actual power that you would get out of a tame should come from how well itās trained during its maturation period.
Umm training
You replied without reading the full comment didnāt you lol
Selective breeding could be an improved mechanic
It's like you are raising your puppy IRL
It doesn't makes sense if it's just by mating alone without external changes... Game's definition of mutation is not like IRL
Umm the current breeding is already by definition of "selective breeding"
You breeding to capped certain stat
Yeah fair enough
I read it
It's literally the same as the current system
Minus the imprinting
To clarify I want a training mechanic that replaces imprints. Something that requires you to actually take your maturing babies out and do things with them to increase their capabilities. If you want it for combat you take it out hunting, the more you do the better the end result will be. If itās for harvesting you take it out for activities that fit. Then the tames final stats and maybe skills if thatās gonna be a thing would be a reflection of what you did during that period.
Thatās the kind of system Iām hoping for
Could maybe also implement play fighting mechanic with babies
I think it would work well.
Things just like that.
Play fighting with babies, watching a hunt with juveniles, hunting with an adolescent.
I think it would be a great mechanic for multiple reasons. One of which is it would add an intimacy between you and a tame. Itās not just another cookie from a batch and losing it would actually be losing something.
I am fully against stat mutation breeding (as I do that myself) and I dislike it
It cause boss fights being trivial instead of racing against the clock to beat it, not only that, no one even try beta and gamma because of it
It makes PVE trivial
Iām against mutating as it currently stands for sure. If the cap actually worked I think it would be far better.
I would really like to be able to get a few extra points for breeding. But you shouldnāt be able to take a stat from 40 all the way to 250 with breeding alone.
People will always bypass the cap anyways
Knowing WC
People reverse breeding to lower the lvl cap while keep the max stat cap as possible
Idk. If for example WC weāre to implement something like any baby being born to a parent with 40 or more mutations was born sterile and didnāt have the option to breed. You could get rid of mutation stacking entirely.
Itās an extremely obvious error that allowed the cap to be bypassed btw
Obviously that ship has sailed for Ark 1 though
This doesn't make the difference PVE wise
It still can clean all the wildlife dry
And itās true that a hard 20 mutation cap would be very PvP relevant and very soft for PvE. Especially if each wild point doesnāt provide exponentially better stats like it does in ark 1
I would argue that the taming bonus would be the culprit for that
I mean itās a mechanic that guaranteed any tame to be 50% stronger than itās wild counterparts
Not really, mutations is still bigger than tame or imprinting bonus without mutations
Wild giga will say otherwise
20 mutations is smaller than a tame bonus
As soon as you tame something youāve already passed the threshold of wild creatures. Mutation stacking is just adding to it.
I agree with Raqās point that another major problem is that both extra tame levels and mutations allow you to exponentially outscale wildlife
If each player inputted point was a flat increase from the base stat (like a wild point) it would instantly smooth the gap between player tames and wildlife
Lowering level cap could also help with that but yeah
Aren't that the same thing as additional levels since levels just increased stats across the board?
Iād like more focus on individual tames as opposed to entire armies. I think if a tribe mate decides to hop on MY raptor there should be a possibility of it throwing him off, refusing to listen to him, and maybe biting him a little.
whens ark 2 coming out?
āYou donāt have enough badgesā
2023,i hope lol
it is 2023
What about whistling commands tho
Noon
Perhaps a setting that only the actual owner can change to allow or deny whistle commands from others?
By owner I mean the owner of the tame not the tribe btw
Ok now what about the owner of that said group quit tho?
Who will own those then?
If someone leaves the tribe I think they should take any personal property with them, excluding main structure pieces like walls and foundations.
I am not talking about "leaving tribe"
Oh.
I would say the tames would persist until decay then others would be able to claim and care for them.
Bypassable tbh
A wild point (mutation or fresh tame level) is a % from a base value. A player inputted level is a % increase from the TOTAL of all wild levels
What do you mean bypassable?
I agree that a healthy thing to do to make the game less toxic is find a way to protect individual property in a larger tribe
Someone is gonna make an army out of claimed creatures
That would require enough players quitting for you to claim enough for an army no?
I propose a Conan method where you are limited to 2 active tames and 1 alpha/rideable
"false quitting"
Especially people 2 accounts
Maybe an animal handling skill that when raised determines the amount of tames you can handle at one time?
You triggered my ATLAS player in me
Xbox said as well that Stalker 2 will release in Q1/2 2023 so I donāt think the game awards are wrong about Ark 2 and Stalker 2 releasing end of June 2023.
Tbh that is pretty much the Conan suggestion tbh
Iāve never played it
You started off with 1 then you get another slot, the more you get a certain perk... Basically
That is why my minimum suggestion is 3
Ofc 1 is never be enough
The moment you realize that is not Raq.. IIRC he is a discord mod here lol
Raq made this point some time ago. I was referring to the right person
keeping an active tame cap of 2-4 is fine IF you can store more personal tames imo
I hope the dino ai is a lot smarter
Yeah Iād be ok with something like that. Kind of like PokĆ©mon
Actually exactly like PokƩmon lol
Improved AI is actually one of the announced changes so far
My biggest pet peeve with AI is Dinoās with special abilities not being able to use them while wild.
Like you shouldnāt be able to stand on a cliff and safely tranq a thyla.
He should be able to climb up there and eat your ass like he would if he had a 200lb survivor on his back
The new Ai will let animals track and hunt by sight, sound, and smell
''Hide from predators with visual camouflage and environmental obstructions, and learn to mask your scent! Dynamic pathfinding enables creatures to intelligently maneuver around obstacles and player-built structures.''
thank god if traps are almost useless for taming
Imagine scoping out a pack of raptors and then your survivor just drops a turd. All the raptors heads just swivel over to where youāre hiding.
should've used a baby nappy to lessen the sound 
But the smell! You havenāt thought of the smell!
just eat the poop quikly
can't wait to poop so badly that the dinos smell will be crippled for a few minutes
easy just put your skill points in "silent but deadly"
So in few months we will get trailer probably non game related as first one was then we will get 6 months pre release buy and after that another postponing as usually-
Yop
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Bro what?
i told you the new year would bring dumber questions/people (even dumber/idiotic than we're used to)
It's already confirmed the next thing they would share would be gameplay and that it's basicly very close to being shown
depends on how long taming takes or how many times you have to retame creatures
if the actual process of taming a creature takes more than an hour then traps are pretty neat
id rather not chase a raptor across 4 miles just to tame it when in that time itll probably get me or itself killed
I donāt know if making the game super hard is the way to go
Ark 1 was very successful and will have a cycle of life of 8 years
They should improve on things but not change the core aspects and features, also the difficulty.
If tames will be super hard to get, then they shouldnāt be essential
I thought they meant gameplay reveal
No they will still walk directly into traps but they will be able to pathfind a way around structures if they are stuck or unable to get to you aka no more standing on mountains and tranqing dinos
i'm just glad that pve will be a actual threat and won't be a braindead minor obstacle once you lvl some speed as the ai ..... it kinda speaks for itself currently
Speed is key
You wonāt get much speed without destroying ur other stats anyway
If ur playing vanilla settings
This is true today, after they nerfed the speed š
Before that, speed was too OP
but we ''gotta go fast'' 
Thatās fair enough. With the new feature of being able to share buildings blueprints, we will have good traps shared with everybody
But not being able to trap tames would be crazy 
Some tames are (almost) impossible to be tamed without traps, like the giga: torpor goes down fast + huge and fast dino
Also, tek suit is gone. That alone makes everything harder and thatās a good thing
when is ark 2 releasing?
We don't know yet.
kk
i tamed almost everything whit out a trap including giga ( gotta be lucky whit a couple of rocks) but yeh a trap would be better though but than you have the pillar (pve) problem but i think wc gonna try to work around that problem
Itās possible, for sure, but it adds an unnecessary difficulty to the players
This year. And based on the game pass banner, at least the Xbox guys, are expecting it to be released on H1 2023
But this wasnāt officially said by Wildcard
well remember last year we were suppose to get ark 2 right 𤣠whit wc there's no point assuming anything although i can see them in a rush to realease it on EA as soon as possible
True, but itās not really us that will pressure them to release, but MS/XBox
dont forget snail games
IF they have given the H1 target to MS, they will do everything to accomplish that
True
Tf is H1?
first half of the year i'm guessing
Half 1 got it
Official Xbox just tweeted all the games that are coming out on xbox game pass this year and ark 2 is there, not confirming anything but just wanted to let you know
just to clarify where do you see that tweet? cause the only one i found it wasent xbox that put ark there but someone else
that all rady news
Xbox profile at twitter
official xbox dosent have anything only found on xbox gamepass and theres 2 guys there that post 2 pics whit multiple games which happen to have ark 2 but xbox has dint tweet ark 2
Didnāt find either
They also said you can shoot guns in ARK 2, which is supposedly meant to be a primarily primitive game. 𤣠Now yes guns are primitive compared to Tek.
no ark 2 is primitive
so was ark 1
no it is primarily-primitive.
Xbox just confirming guns in ark 2 is wild lol
My guess is, at some point tek tier will be reintroduced to the game, and I think it will be good to refresh the title
wild card say no tek
I think it will too, but not in the base game.
Think the same. It might come on with some dlc or future update
or mods
Maybe DLC during early access. š¤£
Talking about mods, they will be there asap I believe
mido.iso
But Iām more interested in vanilla items
SE again š¤£
First mod thats gonna hit is gotta be first-person mod š
I liked SE though
Sure š¤£
tek brock ark 1
But Iām more interested in going back to official pvp
Ark broke ark 
I'm gonna try official day 1.
im interrest on the pve whit AI attacking player whit tames
But seriously, a game that survived 8 years with a good amount of people playing it you canāt say is broken š¤£
I mean, it has its issues, but itās a success
you can
I hope my bank account was broken like that š¤”
I'm just thinking about how long ARK 2 is gonna last, feeling it could last a lot longer
then your out of a game if show lol
no point thinking about that already when theres nothing to think about it yet
just gotta survive some months hopefully š
We will have to wait. We donāt even have a gameplay. But 99% I will play it, but not sure how long it will be enjoying for me
After the 6th year I was a little tired about Ark 1
you just need more options
100% for me
minecraft has limitless community content which is why it lasts over a decade
a rushed shitty camera swap first person mod if you're trying to rush it out
ark doesnt have quite as much due to limited modding
yup theres only so much you can do until getting bored as hell
ark2 coming with mod support means there should be enough community content on top of base game to keep you entertained for perhaps even a decade
or more
Camera just gets inside the survivor's head when running š
and all you see is the inside of the face with some parts of the eye poking out š
bobs coming with brains this time around š¤ š
Inside person view. I hope people will be happy with that
Bobs with brains = imposter
leave it to microsoft to either spoil something before the devs or to be completely wrong
It was both xbox and tga
when did xbox confirm guns in ark2
the illusive other view
truly the 5th person view, a robot inside our brains as we control it controlling the meat puppet
The tweet about xbox game pass
0th person view
I looked at twitter, didnāt find it
can u dm link
Y
cause i wanna see it
me too
They say "You can ride dinosaurs and shoot guns in this one. Awesome."
latest tweet/thread from the Xbox account with the golden checkmark
I think they are just stuck with ark 1 idea XF
Is this the year we will see Ark 2!?
Oh thanks
thought they deleted it
still up
it likely is due to it being a early access title and that we aren't far off from the gameplay reveal
steam is early access
for ark 2
Iām assuming there wonāt be cross gameplay?
no but mod will
Appreciate the insight
mod .iso
Cross platform is confirmed is it not?
ark 2, but we can play as Helena and write new dossiers.
Helena Clones.
Become Rockwell and have a chance to turn into a GOD
mods will be cross platform mod .iso
So basically Steam players on official wonāt be able to play with Win/Xbox players
i think pc can play with pc
i know it's a early access launch for both pc and Xbox
no they say is just steam i herd
It is releasing early access on Xbox and Steam.
What makes you think there will be supply drops?
we don't even know if theres gonna be supply drops yet
it work like this you fal from the sky lol
same goes for Artifacts
will ark 2 have world bosses or just bosses in a closed off area
Like the titans which were basically world bosses, whereas the guardians were fought in a closed off area
Nobody knows
If they keep missions, they might be behind those akin to the Genesis-maps
I bet the new SOFT is working as a showcase for them
They will try the cross in there
I believe and hope there will be crossplay, at least, between pc and Xbox series
TSOTF is crossplay between pc, ps, and microsoft.
One thing isnāt clear yet: will epic have it for early-access? Does epic sells early-access games?
So far it's only confirmed for Steam and Microsoft.
Do you know if epic sells EA games?
Anyway, I believe we will have cross between Xbox and Steam day one. And later the other platforms will join the party
epic sells early access games
But Xbox gamers will ask for closed servers. Not all console gamers like to play with pc gamers
Itās odd it wonāt be there day one
idk ask wildcard
Iām fine. Steam >>> Epic 
Thank god
Idk how I feel about heavy turrets if I want them or not
I guess weāll have to find out
Probably not gonna be heavy turrets
By the official Twitter account of TheGameAwards:
The following @Xbox games are targeting for release by the end of June 2023:
- Starfield
- Redfall
- Minecraft Legends
- Forza Motorspot
- ARK 2
- S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2
- Flintlock
- Replaced
- The Last Case of Benedict Fox
- Party Animals
It's obviously not a confirmed release date, but we'll see
@fading venture here is dollie's response.
Now itās clear what to expect

If they add turrets to ark2, I kinda want them to fire less rapidly and the bullets to have sprites, just so you could use evasive maneuvering to avoid being shot instead of breeding tanky tames for days
or more like the plant x turret
Yeah
hmmmm peashooters from pvz confrimed
Pvz is Canon in ark animated universe confirmed?
a primitive esc turret that isn't instant hit and can somewhat be dodged
on a serious note i think a slow firing biological turret like the x plant or velonasaur could work really well, or if there is more normal turrets then maybe they are rusted and desheveled messes and you have to find them in the overworld rather than craft them
I wish arks plant y and z were turrets, plant y could shoot bola like projectiles that trap you for 8 seconds and z plants could be like a melee lick attack
i mean having to find old and i mean OLD turrets that look like they are one bad rainstorm away from breaking could work really well, and maybe that could work but i feel like there will be a form of carnivorus plant on arat
i want them to add a seve button in the game menu
there's already a server button (idk what you're trying to describe if it's not a server button)
another minecraft game?
How many more spinoff minecraft games?
I remember when I was training for the army, the dodging bullets class using evasive maneuvers was especially difficult.
Bro they should remove the host barrier thing when playing on unofficial servers with ur friends
when the trailer comes out ?
we don't know when thee next trailer is coming out
only wildcard knows when they share the gameplay trailer (seems it will be very soon from what the latest few tweets from Jeremy and others kinda suggest)
tomorrow confirmed!
Whats confirmed
Flobs said trailer out very soon. I jumped to the conclusion of "tomorrow". Just helping the content creators
So its not confirmed lol
depends on your definition of confirmed
i only speculate it will be very soon as they said ''as fantastic as ARK2 is looking, we're not quite ready to pull back the curtain on its gameplay just yet!''
we my just see ark 2 game play one day way looking at a in Community Crunch letter ho now how we will see ark 2 game play the only one ho no are the dev and there not telling us
could be, we won't know till it happens 
or they are we all cant see the hints lol
i men ark 2 game play my be hiding be hind you flobs we can see it he hind you is blends in to your photo lol
i'd love to tell you all about ark 2 but they got a noglin supervising me in case i try to spill any secrets, and i don't want my brains to be eaten
lol
You can already connect keyboard and mouse on the Xbox consoles, that's not really the problem.
The real problem is it's easier to use hacks on PC. Console players don't like to play competitive games with pc players for that reason.
I think cross-play is the way to go. I'm just saying some console players won't like to share the same servers with PC players, at least for the PVP servers.
They should make an ark 3
Depends if ark2 does well
Donāt need ark 2
Hooe it does, if not well we still got the series
Just go to ark 3
It should do better since itās going to have an animated show up interest in the game
Itās a pretty interesting play theyāre doing, having an adaptation push the new release. I hope it does well, for if they succeed in getting a large audience that means they will care about the moderation and players on their official servers
Oh I doubt it will get more people to play the game
But I think it'll get loads to watch the series and appreciate the story
He's fucking with you
you could already kinda tell what kind of ark player it was before the last sentence (they're not subtle with putting their sad official server topics in convos)
We need capybaras in ark 2
Fact
Yeah and it doesn't look the cheaters are gonna leave any time soon seeing as they are the publishers
H.O.D made a video covering snail game's employees hacking in ark and banning honest players
Yeah.
Snail-Games are honestly pretty fucking bad.
Yk what annoys me so much
When I search up ark 2 on YouTube and this guy named loadedcrysis
Tells us everything we already know but in a complete different way and reuses all the clips
And he bases his knowledge off of his own inferences and no official statements
Just to get views
that's his whole channel lol, somehow still gets views likely from kids who are non the wiser.
that man tries to clickbait 20 vids about one post implying it means 15 different things
i hope ark 2 will allow you to organize mods more easily instead of removing them and re-adding them
Why is it I always see something on YouTube about the release date but hop on here and it's just people talking is there no updates about ark 2 or what I've only seen ur trailers for it and the ark website just says the normal bs
what? 
we're getting the gameplay reveal the next time they reveal anything new, and what the latest few tweets imply it's not that long away anymore. it's still targeting a June 2023 release date, and yes ofc you won't have as much info for a early access game then a full launch game.
but let me guess you don't count the steam page and founders note as updates.
Because people farm clicks from literally anything?
I'm not talking about cheats in general (like using glitches or duping stuff), I'm talking about hacks. On consoles you can't modify anything, it's hader to develop hacks.
Keyboard and Mouse are, for a while now, usable on the XBOX.
new engine the cheating my not be the same or if there will be
hop they have new anti cheating for the game
iirc they said they will use a different anti cheat, can't recall the source atm but pretty sure they mentioned a new anti cheat somewhere (it's 3 am and i'm also tired)
yea it surely need a new anti cheat
existing one pretty sucks and still ppl are duping and crashing the servers
it'd be foolish not to get a new anti cheat compared to Battleye which they currently use iirc
biggest noob anti cheat award goes to Battleye
this is deleted scene on gaming award xD
@blissful perch like 3 YouTube creators who only play ark all farming clips or this discord just sucks
if only was 3 youtubers farming click/views on theories base on no official info
100% the clip farming lmao. This happens constantly where youtubers go buck wild with a tiny piece of information...and suddenly this chat is filled with viewers asking nutty questions
Anyone wanna talk about fireballs in Ark 2?
no
If ark 2 is meant to be primitive why are there fireballs
shifter i her your the new ark 2 chat channel enemy that we need to fight to get ark 2 lol jk
for players to drink them
Why not? Fireballs arenāt technology
no but they are a drink lol
Sure. If youāre 14.
Could be both
any way i have not her of any magic in ark 2 there not much info out on ark 2 yeat
wild card sad there is no tek in ark 2
Itās not tek
Could be since portable fire is a thing
I would also accept a shoulder pet that spits fireballs from my shoulders
Mqgmasaur
do not skip lag day ok in ark 2 lol
Even if you ment leg its still something you cant skip
im skipping leg day rn
Why?
laziness + not enough protein intake to justify it
the latter part is way too long a story
run we all will run in ark 2 beach the water all a round us the dino looking for us jut run faster then there players lol
No need for protein when you use adrenalin
weather is one thing in ark 2
you are the reason tribe logs are unusable
lol
Thatās just not true
I hope wild card remebers to compress the game this time
i wander if we will be able to go a round the hole planet in ark 2 more land more space for player to live and build
Will there be new dinos to die to?
i see the planet at the end of ark 1 and is big
Thats extiction
nah he means gen2 ending
mabe more or les new models
ad the end of gen 2
but really earthlike
Im yet to beat gen 2 so i didnt think bout that
either*
i seen a video is big
?
we are going to be back on a solid planet this time and with the new ue5 i think we can hop to see the hole planet and go a round it
actually making a whole spherical map probably isnt gonna be fun to handle
So what your saying is my pc is gonna start a fire
i mean they can probably figure out a way to make you able to render just enough to play without breaking your pc
its not like you render the entirety of an ark map at the moment either
Not sure se worked just like that when it came out
?
but the first beach i land on in ark 2 i will name it after pray it will be name the beach of pray lol
you never have to render a whole map though
Se renderes the entire map when it first came out and then after a few minutes started unrendering since wyverns eggs started despawning
oh
I played se with accurate temeratures do
Hope not
this from the steam ark 2 page
Instanced rendering and network-streaming enable much higher client and server performance for large, player-built structures, and a longer draw distance! Survivors can set up and save their own preferred building templates, share them, and place prospective template layouts in the world to then build them out as a team.
we see player home faster
What dinos do you not wanna see in ark 2?
lets not have most shit from after abberation lol
Any specific pick?
most stuff after abb has just been powercreeping what came before
Iād take the full roster again
but this what we need to no how is this going to work
Natural and unnatural occurrences are always happening across the game world, independent of your presence! Your choices in deciding whether to interact with these events will yield rewards or challenges.
Yes
mod .iso share to all
the entirety of gen2, most things in gen1 though ferox dont seem to be tooo problematic (no element tho so definitely not gonna be in ark2), everything in extinction
as far as the free maps are concerned
i think most of their dinos are fine
abb had some power creeps of its own. Loads of metal, rock drakes, karkinos were powerful before other options
Why wouldnāt there be element?
Wyverns and crystal wyverns
oh yeah forgot about these
Element and tek are 2 different things
one go with there
Gachas and golems are also really strong
Element has been the main antagonist of the story so far and Iām expecting it to be the main antagonist in Ark 2 as well
idk how powerful rock drakes were conpared to everything else from before, though reapers seem to be pretty powerful
rock drakes are super versatile
Compared to rexs rockdrakes are faster smaller can glide and also live longer then rexes in most bost battles execpt rockwell they die the same speed
Im thinking element is gonna eventually corrupt the Aratai, thereās gonna be an un corrupted group of Aratai that we team up with to fight the others.
there practically shouldnt be element or else theres no reason to not include tek, at best element is an ultra rare resource that you only use for some very limited situations
you could also shoot from the back of a rock drake, making them great for pvp, taming etc
They also have better turning which makes them better for movement
her a bout mods in ark 2 from ark 2 steam page
Fully stackable, user-created Mods for new creatures, items, gameplay features, and maps are now distributed across all platforms, along with support for modded unofficial servers!
Also better tek saddles
is youing mod .iso
The entire ship was powered by element. Itās on the planet. Iām not talking about farmable and usable element.
Now on the flip side what dinos do you want to stay in ark
i hat the one that nock you out
Pachys?
Shadowmane
Lame
no one at night
yeah but the ship isnt just available element, its contained well within the ship and i imagine its not like you can just take a pick and start mining it
Megalosaurs?
i forget if the ship being on arat is confirmed at all
we saw it in the atmosphere but not on the ground
Were gonna pull a kratos at the start of the game
we havent seen element on arat either
Pretty sure thereās a large chunk of ship in the background of one of the trailers
1st or 2nd
aight
But the ship exploded
Saints row 4 style
Thereās not āa shipā thereās just parts of a ship
then sure you probably have a source of element
I donāt see them getting rid of the stories main antagonist without some form of closure.
I like troodons
We beat Rockwell sure, but he was just a pawn.
Microraptors do
ark2 is gonna have a lot of dlcs tbf
i can see the first part just being santiago surviving against the aratai
I put 20 dollars on theres gonna be a dlc that has a cool gimick that gets cast aside by a dlc with cool bosses
I can see the next part being santiago being trapped in an atari
This is what Iām expecting as well.
her is what i see if they want the game out by june or after we my see ark 2 beta ether some time next month or in march
I hope ark2 doesnt end up like cyber punk
cyber punk got a lot of up date i her now
lol
But how much do you hear of cyberpunk now a days
go look up videos and see
Micro raptots suck
cyberpunk has a anime
how sow i can make my go fast
the problem in ark 1 was that as soon as you got a tame on most dinos the only way you'll die in the world is due to foolish actions. So they added things like microraptors, thylas and purlovias to make it more dangerous
Hello
Purlos are in caves thylas are in the red woods so yah microraptors are everywhere
I shouldnt need a rex to stop a micro
no run to water lol
Im fine with more danger just less micros
it should be like your first hour on abb... all the time.
sow jordan you living on a beach in ark 2 or the woods in ark 2
The correct answer is the snow
to cold
woods obviously
Red woods or normal woods?
I like the look and atmosphere of red woodws
sow your going to meat the new ai neighbors then good lol
Whats your favorite redwoods spawn mine is the troodon
no ty hat it
Why do you hate troodons
So do scorpions , pachys, and basicaly anything with low damage
mama said knock you out, trodon gonna knock you out
Good
remove gamma
Even better
do not worry glider if i can attack i will sand them to you
i will even give them a map lol
Troodons are the second best dinos right next to the big troodon
they took a poll on the dinos we do not what to see in ark 2 on a youtube videos troodons were one
.:(
sow a lot of players hat them
well i hop to see Gacha in ark 2 but more evolved to the planet
Lets hope they dont singlehand start a farming monopoly
and one more thing i hat
Pillaring sow let hop there no more ofthat in ark 2
I also hate sloths
Ark 2 is fat
Ark 2 is one of the fattest people in the world
Ark is fit
Ark 2 is not
Sloths are awesome why would you hate them?
Xbox said that Ark 2 has GUNS.
Well guns arenāt very feckin primitive
Unreal Engine 5 formally launched for developers on April 5, 2022... no wonder we still have no gameplay trailer LOL there is no way they can have Ark 2 ready this year or next.
They could actually, since Unreal-5 also has a feature where you can port recent Unreal-4 projects into UE-5.
Depending on how long production of ARK-2 has been going on for, it could either be another year or two away, or by this year.
The game is also being released in Early-Access, so it doesn't need to be very content rich at first.
Would be interesting if they removed the reticle when using guns
It would require alot more skill to use them
I'm pretty sure they were making the game on a beta version of unreal 5 beforehand
Yup which is nice and also ue5 allows multiple devs working at the same time.
When can PS4 player play ark 2?
next gen only, so never on PS4
Also playstation isn't announced yet
Anyone wanna talk about how fucked the Aratai are if we get guns?
they're already getting beaten by Vinny with a pointy stick and rex, they're definitely fucked and going extinct if we get gun control
Idc about them I care about how fucked the balance of the game will be š„²
I fear another round of hitscan weapons is not what the doctor ordered
Itāll be fine. Ranged weaponry was always intended. Iām sure theyāve got it under control.
Anyone know when in 2023 ark gonna come out like early middle or late of 2023
Ok cheers
still supposedly targeting a june 2023 release date
Praying for June
Many things were intended yet they had shockingly bad balance implications š
That does not say anything, most games flunk the gameplay trailer. They already said they want this one to be good
hello
I bought ark survival evolved base game and genesis season pass. But i cant buy ark season pass. Also i cant buy scorched extinction and aberration dlcs separately. I talked with the steam support and they said wildcard blocked turkey to buy them. Can i learn why? Or if its a mistake can u fix it before winter sale ends?
i made a ticket 9 days ago and its not answered
my ticket number is 2354970
Take the question to #bobs-with-probs
Ark 2 will have battleground
Battle royale
You spawn by parachuting and pick up a gun to kill someone without a gun on hot drop and be the last one/team standing
I love being the last tram standing
But I'd prefer to be the last hot air balloon standing instead
Or maybe the last bullet train standing
Haha tram, i am on phone rn, that's why e replaced with r
Lol last bullet train, Thats kinda funny
:(


"Ark 2 Targeted release Expected from January to End of June (Window)"
Microsoft/Xbox paying wildcard rial good
We āknowā that since June/2022 š¤£
BUT thereās no official confirmation by WC
So basically 2024
No. 2023. Unless they want Phill Spencer pissed with them 
That seemed like a lot of work Flobs
had to be done
Tf?

Fortnite
The joke is missed on you, my boy
It's from Samurai Jack, but close enough lol
My uncle forced me to watch that schow
is there an estimated date for when ark gameplay footage will be released?

supposedly early this year, but no month/date given yet iirc
also just bc it isn't announced yet doesn't mean it has to be at a event, as that only really is for the people that haven't heard of ark 2 yet while they could reveal it whenever they want as it's mostly ark players waiting for it
Itās obviously Hades from Hercules
Yes
guys is it coming 2023 or 2024?
Ask google
2023 just started, if we got nothing close to June when it's targeting a release than we can assume it might be next year. from what the latest tweets kinda imply the gameplay shouldn't be that far off anymore
You would have had an answer already and wouldnāt have to deal with me
Wildcards the kinda company that would do the gameplay reveal on a twitch stream and show off stuff tbh lol. But since they're working with Microsoft they probably have to be professional abt it and do a trailer.
we need ark 2 game play soon
š
gp give us ark 2 game play you hid it from us lol
not the time ''just yet''
Soonā¢ļø
That makes me think you heard something lol
raqkaaq if he did we need to get the Noglin
sorry guys i can't share ark 2 secrets, those noglin hats are sleeper agents programmed to keep me silent about ark 2 (i like my brains intact)
You Ark reskinned secrets lol š
Ark 2 will come out at 31-12-2023šššš
They said it's in 2023 not specific period
For me soon is tomorrow ššš¤£


me on dec 17th: so I'm gonna tell them gameplay is quite a while off, some players seem to have spun up a narrative it's imminent
jat: I mean, they'll just start getting hyped again in a few weeks
dumbass me: hmmm no I think if I explain and I'm transparent about the pipeline it will temper expectations, I would like to be transparent with them sends tweet
jat: I don't think so but you do you
two weeks later....
hate when you guys prove Jat right š”

Did you expect anything less from the general population? I sure didn't š
This is my first time imteracting with the ark community and i have to say that genuinely made chuckle
That emoji was me last night, watching It's About Time, great film
ahem something something Ark 2
a pipeline wouldn't hurt untill release from now wouldn't hurt 
A transparent pipeline to the noggin would hurt, I would think
In that case, the pipeline wouldn't hurt, then š¤£
cmon dollie, give us a hint as to when we can expect the juicy gameplay 
If you actually decipher the coded language in Dollie's message she is telling us that there will be a gameplay trailer in 2 weeks.
The problem with her giving out info is if she says something like a few months, people will take it the wrong way and then get mad again if its not 3 months on the dot.
Is the news true
what news
Ark2
it's true, all of it
Letssss go
š¤£
Where ark 2 at. Am I almost got 4k hours in ark I need something fr3sh
4k hours?... Cute
No matter what dollie or wildcard does people will not be happy. I did enjoy the post a little while back made me feel like they were actually trying to communicate.
This was awesome of you. No matter what you do people are gonna be upset. Even if Jeremy you Jat whoever did a post once a month on where things were/ status update people would still be upset.
even though we're all longing for the next share of news and gameplay we're happy with the posts saying development is going great, it's reassuring to know that the team is doing their best while not super rushing it to make it the best it can be while being as excited to show it to us as we are excited to see what the hard work will look like once it's shared. š«”
I do see the confusion tho dollie.. the Twitter post days a little while. The discord message you did says quite a while. But other than that I'm thankful for some type of communication
I agree
Agreed
I just want transparency, not bunch of cliffhangers that nothing for us to do but to speculate and made wild guesses based on other games with the same mechanic and genre as ARK and the ARK 2 steam page
right now as far as we know the game will be coming out this year and the next thing that we see will be gameplay, that is what has been absolutely stated as true, anything else you see at the moment is speculation
Even people speculate when the gameplay is gonna be released lol
if i had to venture a guess we might see details when they drop the animated series to build hype, i mean with the success of edge runners and that bringing back cyperpunk the marketing team at wildcard would most likely want to take advantage of the hype around the animated series, its the smart move
I mean so does the sale drops
true, either way at the moment we don't have much to go on other than the fact that it has not been announced to have been pushed back yet and they are working on it as we speak
I think ark2 will be overhyped thing it will definitely not be the same like ark 1 and thata okay. But they should definitely not put windows players with xbox players together. Cos ps players dont have that either. Ark1 is in its last breath bcs win10 players are the ones who brought us in this situation
You are just a baby, go triple those hours
I would if there was no tek
Classic pvp
Very borren. Enter game takes no time to get to tek boom over
anyway, my point is, you still have a lot to play before getting bored like me 
i am bored need ark 2
When is ark 2 out
2023
Dang. Dollie out here just crushing dreams. She must be related to my wife.
Wew
hay flobs any game events from now till june do we no any coming that my have ark 2 game play at them
@potent hull
???
i do not under stand is it a pome or a big fat no news yet
I took it as āArk 2 gameplay isnāt coming as soon as you guys thinkā
Guys pay attention here, this is a sign.
Who is in this gif?? It's Indian actress Helly Shah, made famous by her role in Swaragini released in 2015. Do you know what else was released in 2015? That's right, Ark: Survival Evolved. And what's she doing exactly?
She's closing a door in your face, which is exactly what a woman does when she learns you have 10k hours in ark. Still think it's just a coincidence?
She's closing not just one, but TWO doors. And with TWO curtains on the two doors.
Dollie has given us a sign, Ark 2 gameplay confirmed in 2 weeks.
Illuminati confirmed
the truth is out there
I love this Dollie! š§” Your sense of humour is awesome! I'm afraid the hype will never die down, that's how much everyone is excited! Clearly Jat has known us way too long! š

it wont until they release xD
Im hyped for it anybody know when itll soon be released
Ark 2.
(react if you agree) š
Humor ? Wow...
Or she close the door front our faces like ,, shut up u " ... like she is piss off


