ark-2

[tribal chasm]

Was there any speculation or hint at Ark 2 news during the upcoming Extra life?

[fallow niche]

Most of us are speculating that there will be, but there haven't been any official hints.

[potent hull]

if there is any ark 2 news bee witched will be the one on the ark 2 planet to give us the news are own discord reporter joke

[stray elm]

Can I get a translator?

[split dove]

We don't have enough tribute items to summon a translator

[ripe cedar]

I think they are saying that the announcements section of the discord is the first place to get new news

[fallow niche]

Let's not make fun of non native English please.

[ripe cedar]

we aren't

[fallow niche]

either way, please stop

[split dove]

person casually going back to a message from last year

[stray elm]

Well, I can't say the same for Flobs.
But 'I' was legit asking if anyone could translate what they said.

[split dove]

English isn't my main language, long live the waffle land

[stray elm]

Waffle-Land?

OOOOH.
Canada?

[split dove]

Ugh, Belgium

[fallow niche]

Alright back on topic please

[stray elm]

Oh wait, that's syrup I'm thinking of.

[untold ingot]

Imagine instead of pine sap we get actual syrup on ark2

[mint swan]

Siiiick. And pancakes and the new food

[mint swan]

Ooh ooh, you could also cook any eggs and make actually eggs that decreased how much food it gave but increased its healing factor

Bigger the egg/higher the level, better the healing

[untold ingot]

I dunno, I feel like if I ate a whole Rex egg, I wouldn't get much healing. At most a stomach ache

[tropic crag]

The option to cook unfertilized eggs would be nice, though

Also, suspend your disbelief for the rex egg size a little, lol

We already rather clearly aren't going for pure realism here

[stray elm]

I do hope they implement more cooking stuff.

That's the thing Atlas does surprisingly have a one-up towards ARK.

[mellow wadi]

yeah ik. Nor are the new i9 13 hundreds.

they said that the 4090’s and i9 13000Ks will be worth it when the 13000Fs come out or smth

[oblique frost]

and the building options, the bloody ocean, the regional resources, the skill tree, the group play options, the carts for tames, and the melee combat is at least more complicated if not necessarily better. Atlas was an interesting testing ground for iterative improvements even if some of the core gameplay changes like turning it into a pvp mmo were terrible ideas and it was and still is a buggy horror show.

[stray elm]

Atlas is unironically leagues better then ARK mechanically in many fields.

I do hope they don't go with Atlas combat, and go with more Conan's.
Since god do I hate Atlas combat.

[untold ingot]

Atlas combat is ark combat, but more derpy

[lavish rain]

Never played atlas can't confirm

[mortal kestrel]

well its souls like, so it will be more conans yes

just hopefully not everything has a 0° turn radius and ignoring physics to attack me like with conan

and hopefully arkIIs hit detection wont suck as much ass either

I swear, combat in conan geniunely pisses me off

not only do your attacks not land even if your basically inside what you are hitting, but nothing has any form of turn radius either, so you deadass just have everything tpose sliding to face you before attacking so it doesnt even feel all that fun either

Im hoping dinos in arkII will have rear attacks, or at least a clean looking turning animation even if the radius is small, because that would actually feel fun and engaging

instead of just giving everything a bullshit turn radius with zero animation so it looks more like the game is broken than something Im legit fighting

[wise shadow]

ok

[blissful perch]

I’m guessing that’s because conan has forward hitboxes around the attack rather than hitboxes around the character model

But I would prefer monster hunter turning radius over ark 1. Make it so creatures can twist their bodies rather than walk in massive circles to reposition

[slate trellis]

Does anyone potentially know an approximate date when ARK 2 is being released to steam?

[broken seal]

2035

[lime forge]

2023 is all we have so far

[slate trellis]

Alright thanks

[mortal kestrel]

I agree

and give the creatures rear attacks as well, so they can fight without having to always turn too

would be much cleaner

[dry flame]

Ark 2 needs nunchucks and katanas. The reasons are self-explanatory.

[potent hull]

i wander if there will be new types of ore in ark 2 and if sow what types will there be

[mortal kestrel]

I want some form of shuriken or senbon

projectile based weapons that dont do much damage but are great at applying statuses

chakrams could be a cool ranged weapon too

with some melee potential too, similar to the spear

[halcyon granite]

Will the tame combat be similar to souls? Or is that just playervplayer?

[untold totem]

Multiplayer is still happening

[mortal kestrel]

I mean, dark souls doesnt really have mounted combat

and I doubt Ill be doing a dodge roll on a rex

[halcyon granite]

I figured hahah I just meant like lock on combat system

Although a diving rex would be kinda cool

[mortal kestrel]

they did say that mounted combat would be more advanced though, but they havent really elaborated further beyond dinos reacting to damage depending on where they get hit

and some vague mentions of damage mattering more

[halcyon granite]

Gotcha so more strategy based than overall bite till the other one drops like ark currently is

[mortal kestrel]

yeah

which is good, ark needs it

I've always complained that ark is too much like a dressed up stat check simulator

has always been my biggest issue with the game

followed by grapple hooks not having physics

[untold ingot]

I just want to see sidesteps on rexes

[untold totem]

Not anatomically possible if they want it to go "realistic"

Possible in Carnos tho

[tropic crag]

Which... they aren't, hopefully, since realism is already so suspended in the first game, and it would be rather jarring to go full realism when the past has proven otherwise

[untold totem]

Low key want to bring back the ragdoll jank tho

[mortal kestrel]

I mean, we are on an alien planet with dinos made with a space factory

what part of that screams hyper realistic?

[untold totem]

their claims of AI gonna be "realistic"

[untold ingot]

I don't think they claimed realistic ai though

[tropic crag]

Just improved, yeah

[untold ingot]

Yeah, it's just not omnipresent radar and getting stuck on everything so far

I would like to see more complex things like hunts, but so far they haven't said anything

[tropic crag]

It is definitely assumed that they'll hunt in addition to maybe tracking or some such, which would be nice, to be fair

[untold ingot]

I mean, it could be just random wandering around until it sees you

[tropic crag]

The hiding scent mechanic sounds like tracking to a point

But also could just be ghillie/bug repellant 2.0

[uncut ravine]

really hoping that they had tall greenhouse walls, large ceilings and pillars and inverted triangle walls (similar to those in conan) to make buildings cleaner

and to reduce both server lag and make improvements on the structure limit

[jade zodiac]

i just want in ark 2 can have an acuatic boss

[tribal chasm]

One of the issues in Ark 1, particularly for water units, is you can easily get stuck inside a megalodon or sarco and not be able to move/attack back. Otherwise an aquatic boss would be interesting (yes I know Moeder exists)

[stray elm]

We have one in ARK-1

[terse swallow]

They say AI is greatly improved, but that doesn't mean much if it's compared with Ark 1.

[sharp plinth]

Add more monki pls

[ripe marsh]

Add less monki pls

[oak crystal]

More deadly flora pls

[fallow niche]

But there will be pvp

[split dove]

don't try, they can't be botherd to look stuff up

[lavish rain]

Braincells disintegrated

[fallow niche]

I don't know who keep spreading these things 😂

[split dove]

they might have watched a loadedcrysis video 💀

[lavish rain]

It isn't a "might" they DID

[blissful perch]

I’d laugh if WC went and said “you know what? U right. No PvP”

[mint swan]

bad pvp

[split dove]

so pvp that's not autoclicker spam combat that requires no skill is bad?

[mint swan]

only noobs play like that

theres tons of dinos and items where you dont do that

[ripe cedar]

No

[tropic crag]

Ark players no braincells amazing

[blissful perch]

Only noobs use gigas? I’m eager to hear more

[blissful perch]

If you’re on PS, you won’t have to worry about ark 2 PvP for a while since it’s not launching for PS 🙂. You can rest in ark 1

[mint swan]

i have a pc 🙂

just dont play ark on it cause it needs better gpu

[tropic crag]

...

How would you expect to play Ark 2 when you can't play Ark 1 on it, might I ask?

[blissful perch]

He has a whole year to get a new gpu, he’s good

[split dove]

[tropic crag]

System requirements have been a heated debate recently in here, but I think it's safe to say you'll need better specs than Ark 1 as a baseline

[split dove]

wait, so you're saying i can't run ark 2 on my modified N64?

[blissful perch]

According to Eve you should be able to

[mint swan]

as someone who enjoys gunplay in ark over dino pvp its just annoying and ive seen thousands with the same feeling soooo many people like foot pvp with stuff like fab sniper and comp bows not swords and clubs and the combat sounds like its gonna be like conan and conan and souls pvp are both dead af

[blissful perch]

Ark really shouldn’t be about foot play much if at all imo

The whole core of the game revolves around tames and mounts, so I’d like to see that combat improved and made more central

[tropic crag]

How so? I've seen more videos about Souls games PvP than I can count in my recommended, even though I don't play them any more 😅

Conan I can't speak for, though

[blissful perch]

I guess one question is if you like gun play why not play rust?

[mint swan]

because bloom

[blissful perch]

That’s a weird reason to not play a game

[mint swan]

bloom is annoying its literally implemented for low skill players

also ark is the only game i can play with people from other countries without being laggy as a mf

[blissful perch]

I’ve never heard bloom be referred to as anything but a mildly performance decreasing graphical setting

[mint swan]

not light bloom

crosshair bloom

when you shoot and your crosshair goes wider every shot

unless you wait a second or two

[tropic crag]

You mean recoil?

[mint swan]

no

[blissful perch]

You mean your bullets get larger? (IE easier to hit people?)

[mint swan]

no

[tropic crag]

I don't think I understand, and I even do play Rust, though not super recently to be fair

Not since the gunplay changes

[mint swan]

the crosshair gets wider and the bullets chance of hitting become more rng

thats what crosshair bloom is

[tropic crag]

That a lot of people don't seem to like and just revert anyways

[blissful perch]

So where’s the noob advantage coming from?

[mint swan]

because its rng based as long as they can aim in your general direction the centre of their crosshair doesnt even have to be on you

[blissful perch]

Doesn’t that come at an insanely increased cost of bullets? Sounds a lot like spray and pray in a more “normal” game

[rustic oxide]

Isn't that just for hipfire

[tropic crag]

Sounds the part

[mint swan]

sort of it really depends most fps games have it some games its not to bad or has weapons/attachments that make it better but its just annoying when your crosshairs on someone and you arent hitting them because of bloom

no bloom also happens when you ads

[rustic oxide]

Are you sure

[mint swan]

yes

[rustic oxide]

There is a more horizontal type of recoil

[mint swan]

like in ark if you shoot the fab sniper you get recoil but the crosshair doesnt enlarge

[tropic crag]

I'm gonna doubt that until I see it, time to watch some Rust streams I guess

ADS should not have it, that makes no sense

Not even from a development standpoint

Even for Facepunch

[mint swan]

ok heres an easier way of putting it

csgo

your your crosshair is always small

wording this is hard

[rustic oxide]

Even if it does happen it is not as bad as csgo

[tropic crag]

Your spread widens as you keep firing, we got that

[rustic oxide]

And most of the time it won't matter that much

[mint swan]

ok no need to explain then ig

[tropic crag]

But there's almost no way that happens in ADS

That'd be ridiculous

[lime forge]

That’s to simulate recoil lol

[mint swan]

ok when you ads in rust it doesnt happen idk why i wasnt thinking properly i had too many games in my head i was thinking rust did too

[rustic oxide]

Bruhther moment

[mint swan]

very bruh moment

[blissful perch]

So you didn’t play rust because you believed it has ads crosshair bloom?

[mint swan]

basically 😭

imma go hide in a corner

[tropic crag]

Understandable

I wouldn't play it if it did either 😂

[mint swan]

also i dont like fps i like 3rd person shooters but ig rust is more appealing then the average fps

[tropic crag]

I'm not really beholden to either one, I used to hate third but grew to like it eventually, sometimes better in certain games

[blissful perch]

I hate third person games with ranged weapons unless they do over the shoulder third like MHW or HZD

[tropic crag]

I mean

Isn't that just third person?

[mint swan]

i hated 3rd person shooters but gunz and foot/suit pvping in ark made me like it over fps

[blissful perch]

Sorry, like the camera gets closer when you aim. Hard to explain lol

[tropic crag]

Yeah, third person shooting, when you ADS, the camera zooms

Like Ark does, or GTA, or Mass Effect

Or Saints Row even

[mint swan]

but in ark you dont gotta ads cause every shot is accurate

[blissful perch]

*bad

I hate the fabi lol, such a dumb cheesy weapon. Though I know that’s a hot take 🙃

[mint swan]

🤣 kinda is

[tropic crag]

Never liked the gun, personally

[mint swan]

but its kinda the best weapon asides from tek rifle in terms of consistency

comp and pump desync way too much

[blissful perch]

It’s consistently cheesy

[mint swan]

you still have to have good aim atleast

[blissful perch]

A 0 bullet drop hitscan weapon with near infinite range is pretty “fun” tho I guess #noark2fabi

[tropic crag]

In PvP, nothing is fun, it's just good or not lol

[blissful perch]

You right, my B

[mint swan]

hope theres atleast a long neck

[blissful perch]

I’m good with the most advanced weapon being a long neck. Maybe double reload time to mimic musketmen

[mint swan]

idk how it would work tho cause with souls like pvp i cant imagine you can move very quickly unless your on a tame cause in that case any ranged weapon seems op

[tropic crag]

I have a feeling the on foot portion of the game is going to get some love for sure, in more ways than just the combat mechanics

But maybe that's just me

[split dove]

we are getting advanced movement as well

[blissful perch]

Yes but if my prayers for no movement speed leveling come true, that’s technically slow af

[balmy veldt]

hey i can play with you if you want just send me your friend code

[tropic crag]

The base speed of movement actions doesn't have to be slow, lol

Also, tf?

[mint swan]

bit late fam

[tropic crag]

Mans replying to a 7 month old, off topic post that doesn't even belong in here 😂

[lavish rain]

And your calling ME the schizophrenic

[tropic crag]

You still are, he's just trying to play a game

[blissful perch]

I’m sayin it’s gonna FEEL slow if you’re used to 150+% movement speed

[tropic crag]

Big difference

[tropic crag]

Meh, hopefully not

[lavish rain]

He's schitzo for replying to a 7 month old post that dosent even belong in this chat, big difference

[tropic crag]

Baseline speeds of a lot of things need to be raised imo for Ark 2

[mint swan]

i hope im fine since i use base movement speed or 115 at max

if i play ark 2

[tropic crag]

Like the rex, no fucking way a rex moves that goddamn slow

[blissful perch]

The player’s speed imo is fair

[mint swan]

will they make dinos more realistic? like giga will be similair tier as rex? not the most op thing to exist

[tropic crag]

Base Ark 1 player speed? You are joking, right?

[blissful perch]

I’m not. It’s fine

Like I said, everyone is used to booster speeds so it FEELS slow. But it’s pretty reasonable

[tropic crag]

It's really not, we're the pinnacle of human evolution, and we move... what, like 2 mph? Full speed?

I call bullshit

[blissful perch]

I’m telling you it feels slow lol

You aren’t outrunning a utahraptor, idc who you are

[tropic crag]

Well yeah, but they are also slow as fuck

As evidenced by my statement about rexes

Everything needs to be much faster so as to not look and feel like molasses

[blissful perch]

They aren’t slow lol, your brain is fudged

Ok the rex is slow, I’ll concede that

[split dove]

''must go faster''

[tropic crag]

The only thing I'd say is reasonably fast is the allo, maybe, for base game

[mint swan]

giga?

[tropic crag]

Other than that, everything else is way too slow

[blissful perch]

I’d be fine with rex base speed being a bit faster and sprint being way faster but stam drain being higher. Make sprinting a choice rather than a default

[lavish rain]

Tek pants speed

[tropic crag]

Giga is fine, I guess. Hard to judge when it's not scientifically accurate and much larger than it should be

[mint swan]

true

[blissful perch]

No gigas in ark 2 pls I beg

[tropic crag]

Hope there is just to spite you, but they're normal size

[ripe marsh]

what if rexes had the same speed but could ambush ( which gives temp boost of speed )

[lime forge]

Make tames like actual beasts of burden that take hours to recuperate after being worked hard. (In-game hours)

[blissful perch]

*real hours

[wispy sierra]

Interesting phenomenon I notice: a game with a really slow walk speed and a slightly faster run speed likely feels faster than a game with a higher base speed yet no sprint option

[blissful perch]

I want to exhaust my gathering mount so much I have to spend three days doing something more productive with my life

[lime forge]

Nah. That’s to hard core lol

[wispy sierra]

*days

[mint swan]

they should add Ulughbegasaurus and make it worse then ark 1 giga

[lime forge]

More realistic exhaustion should be a thing though. Instead of running 30 miles stopping to take a breath and then being completely rested.

[lavish rain]

Make our tames build muscle when they lift.

[blissful perch]

Give my tames steroids and watch them get swole

[wispy sierra]

Yes, the anti sweat

[lavish rain]

Crack

[split dove]

behind the scenes of dino fitness

[wispy sierra]

Other games have anticheat, ark 2 should have anti sweat

Playing for more than 16 hours auto closes the game with the message “Go Outside”

[lavish rain]

Or..
Hear me out

[blissful perch]

Ark hard logs you off after 4 hours and tells you to do something else

[tropic crag]

Just turn Ark into a mobile game at that point, give you X amount of hours you can play, gotta pay for more lmao

[split dove]

missed opportunity for hnl-a to say "Survivor the outside world isn't dangerous, touch some grass''

[wispy sierra]

If you play fro more than 10000 hours you get the hidden achievement: Get a Life Man

[split dove]

what about 20k? 💀

[wispy sierra]

Stop

Get Some Help

[lavish rain]

Roulette wheel to play

[wispy sierra]

After 30K the game permabans you

[wispy sierra]

Ark: EA version

[lavish rain]

Redirects you to nearest WC ran casino

[blissful perch]

No p2w tf

It’s about optimizing your ark 2 time

[lavish rain]

Make you spend all your money on craps

[wispy sierra]

Your player gets -2% in every stat for every hour you play

[lavish rain]

This can be reversed with money

[blissful perch]

Stop schizo posting about p2w

It’s all about lovingly spending your time in ark 2 rather than in “breeding for stats sim”

[lime forge]

I swear to god I’ll blacklist you

[flint palm]

When i was first told about Ark, I thought it was open world where you can open travel to all the maps. It would be cool to be able to have a web of clusters with procedurally created maps.

[empty kiln]

Maybe we’ll be breeding human stats in ark 2 👀

[empty kiln]

Since the beginning I thought it would be cool if the obelisks had a trading system set up where players can trade anything and everything from any server without worry of being scammed. Basically like the auction house on world of Warcraft

[blissful perch]

I’d have loved a procedural journey where you one way travel to each new procedural ark after you fight the bosses

Ark rogue like when 😂

[broken dune]

I would love to see dragons/wyverns intense fighting system in ark 2

like you can be above the cloud and fight too

for example in house of the dragons last episode

[stray elm]

You know, actually fucking same.

[blissful perch]

You mean a dogfighting system for fliers?

[broken dune]

Yup. also better control & attacks not just biting over and over it's boring

Btw is the Skill tree available for both player and tames?

Like training your tame to do a new attack or do a dodge

[blissful perch]

Unknown. We also don’t how the skill tree works, if it’s new abilities or passives etc

[split dove]

there is a chance it will be explained at extra life

[south lance]

only 5 days till

[oak crystal]

disappointment..

[south lance]

??

[oak crystal]

cause they won't add cheese to the game.

[potent hull]

need to add chips and dip

to ark 2

[oak crystal]

[noble hound]

any1 know if there will be a skill tree or do u have to level up the ark way

add nacho cheese

[mighty lion]

There are alot of cheeses in the game, if you dont count food

[noble hound]

till ark 2?? what

[mighty lion]

Extra life

[noble hound]

oh aint no way skill tree

[mighty lion]

Read the pins, there will be a skill tree

[noble hound]

personally i don’t know if it would fit for the game but ig it’s cool

[grave hawk]

I mean, there's already kinda a skill tree in ark with the engrams, but it's just not visible

[lime forge]

That’s not even kinda a skill tree

[noble hound]

that’s not a skill tree

[stable harbor]

no help

[untold ingot]

The current announcements mention a skill tree that uses xp and a separate knowledge tree. I would anticipate that the game play for it to be fairly different than in ark1

[oak crystal]

You learn the skill for a hatchet but you’ll need a blueprint to craft it. 😜

[mighty lion]

Damn, just realized the massive potential cheese with base layout bps

They are going to make sure the placement limitations also apply to the layouts.

[gloomy wagon]

can someone confirm if weapon customization is actually a thing in ark 2, cause if it is, i hope you dont have to buy skins just like buying the map expansions

[fallow niche]

All officially confirmed information can be found in the pinned messages here

[gloomy wagon]

alr thanks

[tropic crag]

They may, you never know 😉

[pastel warren]

Ok

[rugged meteor]

Man I can’t get ark 2

[tropic crag]

No one can... because it isn't even close to out yet? Like whe

[rustic oxide]

I disagree

[blissful perch]

My fear (and expectation) is that it’s a split process, where we have normal stat leveling and a skill tree that is advanced in parallel based on knowledge points

[broken dune]

I think you can Imagine it as Assassin's Creed Valhalla Skill Tree. it has like 1000 skills with new abilities and stats and everything

[sharp plinth]

I hope theres new monkeys in ark 2

[broken dune]

yeah we also need a white monkey

[sharp plinth]

Yes we do

We need like 5 more monkeys if ark 2 is gonna be as succesful as ark 1

[broken dune]

a collection of them

Can I post image link here?

[fallow niche]

No.

[wispy sierra]

rajang in ark 2 confirmed?

[deft breach]

Rajang for Ark 2, Giga for Monster Hunter.

[fallow niche]

[fallow niche]

Keep it ark 2 only, thanks

[rustic oxide]

But that was goofy :( Ark 2

[fallow niche]

That's enough.

[rustic oxide]

Ok sorry Ark 2

[rustic oxide]

So can we get a ginormous gorilla in ark 2

That would boss

[rustic oxide]

Ark 2 is going to be terrible

Just an absolute cyberpunk

Dinos are gonna be on bruh

Suvivors are gonna just be not ballin

I can't spend my money on such filth

[stray elm]

I just lost a quarter of my last braincell after fucking reading that.

[rustic oxide]

Good

[lime forge]

Just based off your grammar and train of thought you probably couldn’t afford Ark 2 anyways

[rustic oxide]

Good

[wanton pike]

Aren’t you a bright lil man

[blissful perch]

What does “gonna be on Bruh” translate to?

[rustic oxide]

Idk I was just saying words man ark 2

[blissful perch]

But why? Isn’t it better to communicate a coherent thought?

[rustic oxide]

Yeah but I wasn't being serious Ark 2

[wanton pike]

You could be asking for to much

[blissful perch]

*a coherent ark 2 thought

[fallow niche]

Can bring it back to actual ark 2 comments, not trolling.

We have #general if you'd like to talk about other stuff.

[broken dune]

Is the mods gonna be available on steam workshop or from a website?

oh nvm. if it's on steam workshop cross platform mods won't be available

I remember Skyrim on consoles have mods

[fallow niche]

See the top pinned message from dollie, mod.io is introducing cross-platform mods for Microsoft and Steam.

[wild kraken]

Will ark 2 have a wipe system on official servers like rust or nah

[stray elm]

We don't know

[wild kraken]

Honestly quite the unfair question to ask this early in development

[stray elm]

Yeah, that's more of a 'near release' question.
But at least you asked a actual question.
'Unlike many people who have visited here.'

[lavish rain]

I mean, arkpoc exists and it's fairly popular, but I wouldn't count on it, but I'm sure it would certainly sometime after launch

[oak crystal]

It would be cool if they add the type of mining in space similar to gen 2. Just scale the amount of resources we can get, down to what can be seen on the ground. Like we can teleport to space to mine on asteroids. If teleporting will be a thing in ark 2.

[stray elm]

Since ARK-2 is a primitive game. I doubt it

[oak crystal]

yes but eventually they'll cave in and add tek imo..

[clear cosmos]

I hope ark 2 has a pve side like ark one because that is what made the game not the pvp and a full survival side ark 2 will fall if it's not a survival game

[blissful perch]

I’m not sure what you mean by survival, but ark 2 is slated to have similar realism to ark 1 in regards to survival mechanics

[lime forge]

There’s no evidence suggesting cavemen couldn’t teleport.

[blissful perch]

One generally requires evidence for the more complex of two possible theories

[clear cosmos]

What I mean is if ark 2 is anything less then ark one og ark players are gonna be very upset what is ark 2 gonna be a pathetic path finder game with no survival mode or anything

[oak crystal]

The environment for pve should be unforgiving.

[clear cosmos]

I agree sharky a challenge for the best og ark players

[split dove]

survival aspects will remain the same roughly, it's the bigger changes ark players can't handle (skilled combat)

[clear cosmos]

The skilled combat is a good idea but it should be your own skill not character based with a skill tree i mean like if you jump shot a npc then you good at skilled combat and if you can pt roll and snip then it's skilled combat or simply run slid and melee that counts as skilled combat or am I wrong

[split dove]

anything that isn't left click spam is better everytime imo

[clear cosmos]

Hahah true I don't think the game is bad but there is few things I already don't like about ark 2 and I have done my research

[split dove]

please tell me what you don't like

[clear cosmos]

3de person only is going to be bad first person made ark the combat system is not going to work unless they make it free like ark 1 player skill based combat no more knocking out a giga to tame the mods for ark 2 is a great idea we all want mods for the game on all platforms and i I mean no more boss boss battles for engrams is going to take the fun out of the game but I would suggest alot of new world bosses not arenas how many of the wild card studio staff is in this chat

[split dove]

1. third person only might feel weird at first, but you'll probably get used to it rather quikly. 2) first person makes a game more immersive, but that doesn't mean any third person game can't be immerisve 3) the new combat system is a welcome replacement for the spam one button type of combat we got currently, 9/10 times it's just spam the longest and win. 4) taming should be more unique than just shooting something for 30 minutes.

4. they did state there will be ''dens'' you can fight in the open world, think of genesis wave based arena missions but more thought out, along with the world event system

[untold ingot]

5. nothing regarding bosses has even been said

[split dove]

First person isn't what defined ark, it was the dinosaurs you could tame/hunt or kill

[untold ingot]

The sandbox world in a pseudosurvival game helped too

[split dove]

yh, but main selling point was the dinos

[untold ingot]

True. And it'll be what keeps people for ark2

[clear cosmos]

Okay I agree on point 4 point 1and 2 I don't agree on I know it didn't define the game but 3de person the dinos looks small and none threatening and I know that has been said about bosses but that's the problem is the boss fights over after we defeat rockwell on gen 2 and the selling of the game was the survival aspect getting thrown into a game with no clue what to do then to learn the game on your own killing dinos and taming them but yeah im not showing hate to ark 2 they must just rethink what they want the game to be imagen going to look for a reaper amd you see it from behind your character that will be just not as good as in first person

[fallow niche]

Idk, I feel like any 3rd person vs 1st person arguments are kinda void until we get gameplay of some kind. Some games are very good with 3rd person.

[pseudo beacon]

i want to be able to pet tamed creatures in ark 2

[untold ingot]

Also, regarding the boss fights them selves, there are a lot of directions they can go

[split dove]

yh, we can only speculate how it will look and play like untill they show us

[untold ingot]

I am expecting and extinctionesque finale, but there's lots of options

[fallow niche]

YES. Let me pet my tames.

[split dove]

lystro but for all tames

[fallow niche]

Exactly, just seems pointless to argue about how bad 3rd person is when we don't have anything at all to compare it to.

Tons of games have made a killing off of 3rd person

Ark2 might be one as well

[untold ingot]

As long as it isn't a top down I am fine lol

[split dove]

some ark people saying they don't like third person only probably don't realise they play in third person more than they think

[fallow niche]

OG GTA, no thank you

[clear cosmos]

I still say they should keep the 2 modes rather then one

[untold ingot]

90% of arks game play is in 3rd person

The only thing that would really suffer is building in ark1, and shooting.

[split dove]

''cj, why is there a camera drone above my head''

[fallow niche]

Well the building aspect is supposedly going to be different too

I dont know about combat, I havent played many souls like games

[untold ingot]

Yeah, hopefully it is good in 3rd person, without removing the intricacy that ark1 building allows

[split dove]

i will gladly take anything that isn't just the one button spam combat

[fallow niche]

Placing a ceiling above your head wrong because you're in 1st person

[pseudo beacon]

guys quit talking about game mechanics that actually matter and start screaming at wildcard to add the ability to pet tamed creatures

[untold ingot]

I am looking forward to it, but I am going to be terrible at it lol

#backflippingrexes

[split dove]

oh shoot, Wildcard let us tame the leaf lizard and give it a good passive ability

[fallow niche]

I've never been good at combat stuff anyway, so

[untold ingot]

Yes, like being kibble for herbivores 🥳

[fallow niche]

Obligatory plant lizard

[split dove]

''this is the exagerated swagger of a trex''

[untold ingot]

I really like that they are adding small insects. That's one thing they were missing from ark1 lol

[clear cosmos]

I just hope ark is going to be a great game and not a flop that's all im saying and yeah being able to walk up to your Rex give him or her a pet with the actual animation would be cool

[untold ingot]

It is wildcard. Even if the start is choppy they have a great track record for making it good

[split dove]

speaking of dinos, i like that your dino won't clip inside another dino anymore when fighting, and that it shows the localised dmg better where you hit it, maybe more blood too iirc

[clear cosmos]

@untold ingot yeah I know that but it doesn't help you have to wait 2 years into the game before its great again

[untold ingot]

That is the biggest thing I want to see lol. I hate getting stuck floating inside a raptor while it eats me lol

[split dove]

you and your rex have been offerd to the sacrificial troodon circle

[clear cosmos]

@split dove if they actually use a good build code and have a sold foundation for there game that won't happen

[untold ingot]

The code is different than the modeling though

[split dove]

seeing as ark 1's base code was made in 7 months by inexperienced developers at the time, and the base code for ark 2 will be at the earliest as we know 2 years old and now with those same devs being more experienced i'd say less problems will be with the base code

[clear cosmos]

And definitely structure debugging because laying on your floor in your base and a allow pops his head in the wall and kills you is getting a big

[untold ingot]

Well, not to mention the team is huge now

[clear cosmos]

@split dove definitely agree with that

[split dove]

let's be honest, if wildcard didn't care and wanted to release it as fast as possible they would've already done so, i love that they're taking more time to give us a better game at early access launch next year

[clear cosmos]

And im glad with the switch release the code has been done from ground up and hope we all get

@split dove that just means they care about there community and there players witch is great

[split dove]

i hate to break it to you, but that won't happen

[untold ingot]

If they need 2 more years for ark2 it'll be worth it imo

[split dove]

rebuilding all that code will take years longer than making a new game

switch only had the island so it was easier

[untold ingot]

They have done a lot of reworks, but the extent of it I don't know

[clear cosmos]

@split dove well that sucks

[split dove]

the unfortunate reality of bad coding that will break more code if you try to fix it. some things can't be fixed and have to be left behind in order to move on to new better projects

[clear cosmos]

Yeah well that is true

[untold ingot]

I keep hearing people say that other platforms will get the switch rework, but I have no clue how true that is

[split dove]

probably just watched a loadedcrysis video and believed it 🪦

[untold ingot]

Lol, could be

[clear cosmos]

Is he a fake or the real deal

[split dove]

only switch stuff coming are the voiced explorer notes/abberation rockwell fight and scorched ascencion

[split dove]

don't trust anything he says, the man clickbaits 20 videos out of news from june this year

[untold ingot]

Yeah, he really makes up a lot of stuff

[split dove]

that's putting it lightly and you know it Raq

[clear cosmos]

@split dove yeah I know about that the huge update videos he did talking about a 130 gb update for ark

So who should you watch to get official news for ark

[untold ingot]

Watch #announcements and #766826918803800074

That's where almost all the official news comes from, and most of the news you tubers get all their stuff from there anyway

[clear cosmos]

Okay cool

[split dove]

never watch any loadedcrysis video, it will preserve your brain functions

[clear cosmos]

@split dove I will definitely be unsubscribing from his channel

One question do the people at wildcard see theas chats just for interest sake

[split dove]

they do, they interact with us sometimes in chat

[untold ingot]

The only person whose news stuff I actually like watching is syntac, because he puts effort into analyzing stuff a bit more than the rest

[clear cosmos]

@split dove that's great to know

@untold ingot and yeah I watch him alot

[split dove]

yh, raasclark is also a rather trustable source of news, but i'd trust syntac more

[untold ingot]

They both watch the announcements and make videos on them.

[clear cosmos]

Well he has been put on fjordur in a cave with his favorite dino of ark the galimimas so I would trust him to

[untold ingot]

That's just because he pulls a lot of sway lol. He was one of the first big champions for fjordur

[pseudo beacon]

wildcard if you're seeing this please make me a very happy boy by adding the ability to pet tamed creatures in ark 2 (please)

[clear cosmos]

@pseudo beacon you really want to pet you dinos don't think it's a bad idea

[pseudo beacon]

its just a 11 foot monster lizard, what could go wrong?

[clear cosmos]

@pseudo beacon hahah true but if it's your tame it should boost you imprint percentage for a time so you get let say 30 percent then ramps it up to like 60 percent after youbpet them when they fully grown

[pseudo beacon]

i dont care about imprint i just want my t rex to enjoy a some headpats

[clear cosmos]

Yeah agreed

[split dove]

i also don't want stat mutations, if they keep mutations it should only be cosmetic ones (colour mutations), the skill tree should make your dino better, not sitting in your base and breeding them for 3 weeks years

[clear cosmos]

But that is part of the fun of ark the breeding ill just play ark one for years to come till ark 2 is a good game or something to just mess around on

[lime forge]

It’s takes like this that make me glad you get stuck doing all the breeding…

[pseudo beacon]

also i want bananas

[split dove]

you'd better be on this week, the breeding in ark 1 is just a afk simulator with rng that's getting better stats

[pseudo beacon]

with a good peeling animation

[split dove]

it's not launching on playstation, it's a xbox and pc only first launch, blame sony for not liking early access games and wildcard having a timed exclusivity deal with microsoft, it will come to PS5 later on

[blissful perch]

The man gets it

[clear cosmos]

@split dove I know and don't care about that the game should just be a better version of ark one that's all

[blissful perch]

Hard disagree 🙂

[split dove]

i've sufferd for 2 weeks too long with the awfull rng system

[blissful perch]

And you have the kibble too…so it’s only the 1/7 chance (I’m agreeing with you btw)

[split dove]

if we didn't have that mod i'd be breeding for 2 months

[blissful perch]

Probably

Insanely bad system, and unintentional

[split dove]

why do i get the feeling that people that want ark 2 to be a remasterd version of ark 1 will be angry when it's the same shit they've already played instead of something new like we're actually getting

[blissful perch]

Instant react emotes be like lmao

Also because they will complain. They always do

[split dove]

i'm not editing a message for a gravestone emojii shifter, you know me

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 was a fantastic pilot product. Let’s see ark 2 deliver something above that

[split dove]

a good blueprint for what they actually wanted to make

[clear cosmos]

@split dove I'm not saying the game should be the same just the game should not be changed to something it isn't

From survival to 3de person action horror game

[split dove]

action horror game? where did you find this info?

[blissful perch]

3rd person has 0 to do with the genre of the game

There’s fantastic titles like HZD and MHW that are third person, as well as first person games like ark

[clear cosmos]

Yeah but those games are ment for that type of perspective ark in not one of those games im super pissed about the 3de person thing

[blissful perch]

Ark 1 may not be, but ark 2 will be

[split dove]

yo shifter, watch me do the advanced movement in first person 😂

[blissful perch]

(Although all mounted play in ark 1 is by default conducted in third person, which is much of the gameplay, so I’m not sure what you mean)

[blissful perch]

Immmmmmmmmmmmm parkourin dude (head moves slightly)

[split dove]

vomit simulator speedrun

[blissful perch]

There’s ONE context imo that validates wanting first person, and that’s cramped spaces in caves and small builds

[split dove]

i think those areas will be bigger to compensate for the third person view

[clear cosmos]

@split dove and the way they are making the game it will be put in that genre 3de person skill tree combat character based won't be a first person survival genre anymore and yeah even though you are in 3de person on your mount you fight shoot and bite better in first person on any dino first person plays a big role in the game

[blissful perch]

You ride Dino’s in first person?

[clear cosmos]

But yeah I talk to you guys again cheers

Yeah pro tip the camera in game has a zoom and often makes you shoot bite and melee father then you should and you can go test it im not wrong

[blissful perch]

Sorry I meant that question to mean “why would you ever do that, since all you lose is knowledge of your hit and hurt boxes”

At least on drakes the bite speed is identical, as is every other creature I’ve used first person for when trying to equip weapons. The most I’ll give you is that it’s a PlayStation bug

[split dove]

iirc reloading is faster in third person, i'd only use first person on dinos when i'm in a crowded jungle area

[clear cosmos]

Nope your hit box just moves a that all and playstation bug nope check your pc it should do the same and yes reloading in third person is faster on a shot gun in first person it loads one bulit at a time and in 3de person a hole clip and switching between the 1st amd 3de person makes you shoot faster because of the reload animation getting taken away a small amount and jungle areas are best in first person because of the trees that cover you amd can't see anything on a giga or Rex in trees

[blissful perch]

The bite should be identical…unless you’re talking about a few frames faster or something, since I didn’t check to that degree

[clear cosmos]

Frame is higher in first person because it has less textures to load because of the small window you get and render distance is also cut because the focus point is infront off you and not on everything around you

Less lag less DC and more range and accuracy

Just a pitty I can't play with you guys im on console or I would prove that my point is valid

[oak crystal]

I'm sure we would get "that roll attack is too op for us first person players. It should be removed" talk.

[clear cosmos]

Roll attack?

[split dove]

roll dodges

[clear cosmos]

Roll dodge okay and yeah sharky I agree but should not be removed that is going to be a big help in the game of ark you will survive in pve alot easier if you can dodge a raptor pounce or a gnashe from a gigga

[lime forge]

Imagine if your screen rolled every time you did the roll dodge in first person lol.

[blissful perch]

In MP that makes 0 sense because everything has to load on the server

[untold ingot]

The framerate difference between fp and tp is usually negligable

[potent hull]

shifter kill ark 2 he is to strong to fight we need to call in Chuck Norris to fight shifter in ark 2 jk

[raven heart]

wondering why in the development in ark 2 they dont have polls and discussions in this discord

[past wind]

Because that’s not constructive

The right time to give them feedback will be during early-access

[raven heart]

Totally!!

I thought maybe core changes and dynamics to see what they should add or change and different types of official servers

[past wind]

Look, I’m pretty sure they know what we want. They’ve been monitoring this community for seven years.

It will be a balance over what we want, what they think is the future and what they can achieve

[raven heart]

Look, all I’m trying to say is it would’ve been nice if they ran polls for different things

Lol

[past wind]

Like I’ve said on my first response, it’s not productive

They will bring to us what they think is the right choice for ark 2 and them do some changes

[raven heart]

Do you think they will do something about mass clans taking over multiple servers and have capped tribe members in official servers right off the bat when launch?

[raven heart]

Obviously man

Would be nice if they do some of those changes before launch

[past wind]

I don’t know, but I hope they bring to us a more balanced pvp

[raven heart]

Yes but what I’m getting at if they had polls or a thread where people voice they concerns and ideas like in this discord it could benefit I think

[past wind]

The good news is they’ve been working on it since 2019

[raven heart]

Why wouldn’t it be constructive to have polls?

[past wind]

So it will be way more mature than Ark 1 was in 2015

[past wind]

Because they can’t share all the details of the game right now and people would be asking stuff that wouldn’t fit their goals

[raven heart]

Yeah charlie apart from wildcard, but most other sequels for games usually end up in disappointment and a game like ark and rust it would bring a lot of upset to many long term players

[past wind]

Like the new mechanics vs first person view

[raven heart]

So I’m just hoping it doesn’t go that way

[raven heart]

True

[past wind]

Me too, but I’m not sure polls would avoid that

[raven heart]

I just see ark had this huge potential to be fun for small groups and be balanced kind of like rust where a 400pop server can stay populated the whole wipe and it just seems that things are so unbalanced that small groups and solos get wiped out like dust on counter

With no effort because on one 20 minutes farm sesh for ore on a level 400 Dino gives gives more yield than a solo group can achieve in hours 😂 I hope they balance the game in official servers to be more primal and balanced

[tropic crag]

Skill based combat (ala Dark Souls, Shadow of Mordor, the Batman Arkham games) is entirely based upon player skill, so yeah, you have that a wee bit wrong 😅

[tropic crag]

Precisely my thought process on the matter

[tropic crag]

Counter point, what if you see your own character in third compared to the reaper? You see how insignificantly tiny your character is, and feel even more empowered when you finally kill it, if you can even accomplish such a thing on foot, in the context of Ark 2

[blissful perch]

good feature to have for a product people are playing...bad idea for people who are being asked abstractly what they'd like to see in a game that doesn't yet exist

[tropic crag]

That is happening, I'm pretty sure, unless I read it wrong we should be getting the improvements from Switch in the future

[tropic crag]

Except.. you are, you don't "bite farther" in first person, lmao

[wispy sierra]

ark 2 is tho

[mint swan]

grapples reload instantly in first person

and gigas supposedly bite faster in first person with map out

supposedly

[lime forge]

At no point ever should 1st or 3rd person affect things like reload speed. That’s garbage.

[blissful perch]

There’s a bug when in first person where the reload animation doesn’t happen. But the reload time is the same

[tropic crag]

As intended, them not reloading instantly in third is an oversight

[blissful perch]

Other way around

[split dove]

They're only gonna add the voiced explorer notes/abberation rockwell fight and scorched ascencion from switch. The only reason they rebuilt the code was bc they only had the island (one that wasn't even fully complete) wich made it easier to recode everything and make it more playable. we all know rebuilding all the code together currently would take years

[tropic crag]

You seriously think that the grapples reloading instantly in first is a bug?

[tropic crag]

False, we are getting most (if not all) of the improvements from the Switch version, all the note voices and cutscenes for all the maps at minimum, can't remember about the code thing for sure though, but coulda sworn I read/heard something about it at some point, I'll have to take a look

One thing we aren't explicitly getting is the little explorers mode, because that's going to be the one thing that stays exclusive that they've stated is on purpose (besides the built-in cursor thing, which uh... doesn't really matter, as a controller/console player, lol)

[slender gyro]

When is this happening?

[past wind]

December

[slender gyro]

And what about carchar?

[fallow niche]

Not ark 2 content yall.

[past wind]

No info yet

[split dove]

PC,Xbox,&PlayStation will also be getting all the expanded story content being added to Switch (new story cinematics, ScorchedAsc, updated Rockwell boss, voiced Helena&Rockwell Explorer Notes/Dossiers, other goodies). It'll all debut on the other platforms Dec 2022 holiday update

we don't know what the ''other goodies'' are

[fallow niche]

Can move that to another channel. Thanks.

[slender gyro]

Is the mutations system gonna be the same as ark 1

[split dove]

i hope the mutation system isn't a thing in ark 2, even if they keep it it should only give colours (cosmetic mutations) rather than having a afk breed simulator i hope tames can be made stronger with a skill tree for dinos as well

[slender gyro]

Ye

But I want a bright pink tred

Trex

[brisk tendon]

I want mutations to just have a hard cap.

[split dove]

that's the only way i'd want mutations, if they are hard capped at 20 as they should've been without going over said number cap

[lavish rain]

People will find ways around it

There will always be a glitch to get around it, it's inevitable

[tropic crag]

Not really, that's not how game design works

[past wind]

I’m not against taking mutations completely out of the game, but I don’t dislike it either

Also there multiple layers of mutation caps

Maybe the issue here is the 255 cap, not the 20 mutations limit

[lavish rain]

Yeah, but for somthing as major as mutations, people will do crazy shit in order to break the mutation cap

So it's best there are no mutations period

[past wind]

There’s no way to break the caps, even for Ark 1

Unless you play on an unofficial server with custom settings

[lavish rain]

People will try really hard

[tropic crag]

Certified Schizo Moment™️

[split dove]

we are talking about the ark community after all

[lime forge]

Breeding is supposed to be done in the background. What makes it an AFK simulator is people boosting rates to the point that you’re required to be there for the entire process.

[unborn galleon]

Any news about ark 2 gameplay?

Do we know if they are planning to add dlss to ark 2?

[lavish rain]

Nope

And in 80% they won't say shit for extra life

As they could easily come up with some bullshit

[unborn galleon]

So u don't think they will show gameplay in extralife

That is so detrimental

[lavish rain]

I don't think they'll even talk about it, let alone gameplay

And you gotta be on meth to think they'll show a release date

[unborn galleon]

You have the right mindset. Learned through the years how wildcard goes about

😆😆I know too, I just... always got some hope

On how they handle shit

[lavish rain]

@unborn galleon they could easily shove off extra life with animated and carchar reveals instead of talking about ark 2, if they do talk about ark 2, it'll be for like 30 miniutes and all it'd do is confirm that allo is coming to the game

They did it last year with fjordur, just so they didn't have to talk about ark2

[unborn galleon]

Xd

They have made big bucks from what I was reading few weeks ago

I wonder why is there always lack of communication

[split dove]

they used to talk more, but for some dumb reason iirc the community told them we didn't want them to tell us as much anymore. @blissful perch knows more about it than i do

[lavish rain]

Whe

Why did they do that

[split dove]

idfk, we're talking about ark players after all Lotus

[lavish rain]

So people who have never seen sunlight?

[split dove]

basicly

[lavish rain]

Why the fuck would they want them to talk less

[split dove]

small brain people moment i suppose

[lavish rain]

Ok then let's reverse that and make them talk more

[past wind]

I don’t remember any kind of declaration about that regard. Also they were more communicative in the beginning because they had a lot of new stuff to show back then.

I remember having to update the game more than once in a single day.

They were throwing at us a lot of new content very often.

For Ark 2, I believe their silence is related to NDAs they’ve probably signed with Snail Games and Microsoft.

Remember back in 2015-2016 WC was all alone. Now they are bigger and have agreements with other publishers

[scarlet notch]

Good I miss the almost weekly/monthly updates we had back in 2015. Always something new to try or tame.

Those were the days

[oak crystal]

If they show us some sort of real gameplay, mid 2023 release. If only concept ark, late 2023.

[ashen loom]

When ark 2 comes out is it going to be on xbox gamepass on day 1? Or is that going to be a later thing.

[potent hull]

xbox and pc day 1 for ark 2

[past wind]

Day one is confirmed by Microsoft

[ashen loom]

Bet

Thank you both for the answer

[blissful perch]

It’s not instant. The time for the reload just occurs in first person but the animation doesn’t occur

@lavish rain my recollection is that CC posts about work being done on anti mesh work etc were flooded with comments saying “nobody cares, where’s evo event” and “just fix it, don’t waste our time”. I think the CCs are still there from that time, so I suppose it could be looked up

[hazy elm]

We need spaceships in Ark 2

Space battles

[potent hull]

no ark 2 will have no tek

with no tek no ships ark 2 will be more cave man like no ships

[past wind]

It’s more complex than that according to Jeremy… some kind of tek will exist, but we won’t dominate it. It will be like “magic”, “supernatural” powers.

Also, we don’t know which kind of “tek” will be there day one.

[lime forge]

I feel like you just made this up

[past wind]

I didn’t… just watch the Pax west live stream on their twitch channel.

[tropic crag]

It's environmental tek, like obelisks were, not a whole tek tier or tek we can interact with necessarily

[mint swan]

im just hoping the actually give us some details about the game even if it is brief and short just something to let us know that "hey we are doing this game and we are working on it" because it at least shows that WC is willing to let us know that they are still doing stuff

[untold ingot]

They are still working on it lol

[tropic crag]

Yeah, I'd be fine seeing nothing honestly, even though it would suck I'd know that that means they're hard at work on it. But I know the instant gratification generation would be pissed, too, and those are the people we cater to these days, sadly

[past wind]

Unfortunately he didn’t give more details, we just assumed everything. 😂

[tropic crag]

Ehhh, they stated it was environmental iirc, not usable and the like

[past wind]

I don’t remember he saying that… he said it was like magic. We here assumed it could mean things like obelisks.

Like magic = we won’t dominate it

He was just divagating 😂 We actually need more info to understand it

[potent hull]

look for ark 2 new on 5 at Extra Life if there going to be new it will be there

[carmine forum]

Have they actually set a release date?

[clever vortex]

In the Pax West livestream, they said that Tek is going to be portrayed as something that seems almost magical in that it is beyond our current understanding, but that it is also going to come across as being a bit sinister and not something that you want to mess with unless you know what you're doing. They never said that the player would actually be able to obtain it or that it would give you supernatural powers or anything like that, but we do know it will be there in some fashion. I'm going to bet that it's there as part of the environment and may play into the story, but we probably won't be able to actually use it for ourselves.

[sullen panther]

where is screenshot???

[prisma pike]

Let's be real extra life is probably just gonna be the show, it's release date, charcars release date. And maybe an estimated release of ark 2 if we're lucky. They're probably also gonna do some celebration stuff over switches release.

But who knows maybe they'll surprise us

[clever oriole]

Ark switch edition I forgot was a thing

Even though I own it

[shrewd roost]

is it true ark 2 is only third person view?

[elfin pumice]

Yes

[shrewd roost]

oh man

why didn't they include first person as well 😦

[tropic crag]

Because it doesn't fit with the game, functionally or otherwise. But there'll be mods to add it back in, don't worry

[blissful perch]

That’ll be the focus for sure. I suspect at minimum we’ll hear something about ark 2 even if we don’t get any new visual content

[shrewd roost]

really hope it'll be good with mods 😭

usually ark is very immersive and i like first person because it blends in with the world and makes everything in a bigger, more beautiful picture

no better feeling than standing next to titanic dinos and staring at their real size

[tropic crag]

The feeling of seeing your own character riding said titanic dinos and the comparison of your size to theirs (which happens, like, 100% of the time when riding almost all dinos in Ark 1) is pretty cool, in comparison... but maybe that's just me 😅

[blissful perch]

I also feel like third person lets you appreciate that too? Like I felt TINY in monster hunter

[dry flame]

Can we just have unicode support in Ark 2 pls?

[mint swan]

I think I just depends on the angle of the camera for the third person because they can definitely have a immersive experience with third person

[sturdy veldt]

Any idea when they release ark2 ?

[tropic crag]

In the pins

[winged dome]

I am curious how 3rd person only will work in buildings or other tight quarters. Seeing as Ark1's building walls/doors aren't even tall enough for the base character model size

[lime forge]

It says 2023 but I doubt that more and more every passing day

[split dove]

don't be such a downer, give your kid a good example 😂

[lime forge]

I don’t want my kids to be as delusional as the general Ark community

[split dove]

it will come out before star citizien gets close to exiting early access (still in early access after 12 years and they say it will be ready by 2027 lmao)

[lime forge]

Love the optimism but I don’t share it. There’s no way we wouldn’t have more info if the game was less than a year away.

[split dove]

i need some optimism to balance out my dreadfull daily life

[bold juniper]

Camera offset or too the side

[mint swan]

I think that if we are going to get details and if they are still on track for the expected release it will be at the extra life event

[split dove]

we will see once extra life is over

[lavish rain]

The reason I don't think they'll reveal anything at extra life is, they could easily bullshit their way out.
Last time, we though they would have to reveal ark 2 as no more story maps were coming, but they bullshitted their way out of that with fjordur, a map most players already know the layout to. This time around, they have animated series and the carchar to bullshit their way out of reveals

I hope dolly isn't reading this and I'm jinxing myself

[fallow niche]

They never said they were going to reveal anything, so I don't know how they "bulshitted their way out", we've all just hoped that they were going to reveal things. They don't have to reveal anything until they're ready. Not revealing anything gives them freedom to make any changes they deem necessary too.

[mint swan]

Agreed we are just hoping for details nothing is set in stone so they can’t bullshit anything if there was nothing to bullshit to begin with

[lavish rain]

The reason it feels like they bullshitted their way out is, they never had to reveal a non story map before, to my knowledge, so it kind of feels like a cop out. If they don't reveal anything this extra life, a release date won't be within 2 years

[fallow niche]

What....?

[lavish rain]

If the game is a year a way as they have said, it would be bullshitting to not reveal anything

[fallow niche]

They've revealed several non story maps.

Ark 2 is a new game.

[split dove]

let the schizo be

[fallow niche]

I don't understand your meaning.

[lavish rain]

But they still revealed the next story map

[lavish rain]

At extra life?

[fallow niche]

.......they've revealed every map. This is a game.

[lavish rain]

Exta life is THE reveal date of the year

[fallow niche]

Ark 2 is a new game. They don't have to reveal anything. They haven't made any promises to reveal anything.

No it's not.

They reveal things all trough the year, if there is anything to reveal.

[lavish rain]

All I'm saying is, the game is supposedly a year away, and they could easily not reveal anything

[split dove]

early access launch tho

[lavish rain]

No shit Sherlock, extra life is the biggest reveal session they do each year

[half forge]

Nothing is ever early or even on time when it comes to ark 😂

[lavish rain]

Still,

[fallow niche]

[lavish rain]

Lost island, fjordur, scorched earth

[split dove]

ark 1, who knows with ark 2

they've been getting it better lately

[fallow niche]

Extra Life is a charity event. They've never had to reveal anything. Chill. They can't bullshit their way out of anything, because they've not made any promises to even reveal anything. It's the community (myself included) that assumes and hopes they'll give us info.

[lavish rain]

Then again, they did reveal a lot more then expected at pax west, so that gives me some hope

[split dove]

and the xbox event from june

[fallow niche]

The xbox event showed a 3 second clip, I don't know if that counts

[split dove]

steam page mainly from then

[lavish rain]

The game is supposedly a year away, so

[fallow niche]

Okay.....and?

Still don't have to reveal anything if they're not ready to.

It's really not that deep dude.

[lavish rain]

Sure, but it won't be pretty if they dont

[lavish rain]

They technically don't, but the whole community will blow tf up if they dont

[split dove]

the community does that regardless of what they do

[fallow niche]

^

[lavish rain]

Fair point

[fallow niche]

People are always going to find something to blow up about. If they don't reveal things though, they can make it how they want without needing to worry about it.

[mortal kestrel]

fjordur isnt a story map, first off

and I dont see why we wouldnt get some mention of arkII in extra life, since I dont think they've ever not revealed some sauce during the live stream

[lavish rain]

They'll worry about the community going to shambles instear

[lavish rain]

Fjordur not being a story map was the whole reason I thought it was BS, and I already said they could do animated series and carchar instead of ark2

[mortal kestrel]

I dont see how it is

they said we wouldnt get anymore story maps, fjordur isnt a story map so we havent gotten one

[lavish rain]

Whe

I never claimed it was

[fallow niche]

There's no bs if there was no bs to begin with

[mortal kestrel]

exactly

[split dove]

god this is entertaining

[mortal kestrel]

"Last time, we though they would have to reveal ark 2 as no more story maps were coming, but they bullshitted their way out of that with fjordur, a map most players already know the layout to"

this is literally claiming fjordur is a story map

[fallow niche]

Bottom line, it's all entirely up to WC what the reveal, if they even want to reveal anything. All we can do is wait.

[lavish rain]

The reveal will be that the Dilo will be in ark 2 and they delayed it to 2025-2027

[mortal kestrel]

put that candy back because we arent buying your shit 🥱

[lavish rain]

No it's not? If it was a story map I wouldn't say it was bullshitting

Ark 2 release date will be April 1

[mortal kestrel]

nah, the 29th of febuary

[lavish rain]

30th of February

[mortal kestrel]

febuary doesnt have 30 days though

[lavish rain]

That would mean it'd come out 2024, that would tell us somthing

[lavish rain]

That's the point

[mortal kestrel]

not a very good point

[lavish rain]

I'm not even mad I just feel like they'll find any excuse they can to not reveal

[elfin pumice]

i want to build underwater bases like in subnautica in ark 2

the ocean is just boring in ark 1

[lavish rain]

So vacuum compartments?

[fallow niche]

Okay, but if they don't reveal, it'll be fine. It just means they wouldn't have anything they want revealed.

[lavish rain]

It means there's no hope for a 2023 release date

[elfin pumice]

no, better

[fallow niche]

There won't be usable tek, so vacuum compartments are unlikely

[lavish rain]

That would be fine if it dosent feel like they were trying to hide reveals

[fallow niche]

[lavish rain]

I've discussed this before, there could be primitive vacuum compartments

@fallow niche when do you think it would go from "they don't have to reveal" to "there's no hope" for you?

[elfin pumice]

it would be hard to mix this with primitive tech though

[fallow niche]

....I'm really not that invested on it. They'll release it when they can.

[lavish rain]

They revealed it In 2020, soo

If it isn't ready it isn't ready, just don't feed us bullshit

[dry flame]

I mean, isn't that kinda the implication if there isn't any news?

Or are we just wanting a daily report that says "nothing new, check back tomorrow"?

[fallow niche]

They arent feeding anything. So how is it bullshit.

[dry flame]

[lavish rain]

Bethesda reveal

[dry flame]

Buzzwords.

[fallow niche]

That was a 3 second CLIP for Unreal Engine 5. Not at all for a game.

[lavish rain]

No

I was talking about that think where they revealed souls combat and all that

[fallow niche]

that's in the pinned messages.

[dry flame]

[fallow niche]

That's enough name calling.

[lavish rain]

That's what I Was talking about, the steam page

I was off sorry

[fallow niche]

Once again, they don't have to reveal anything unless they just want to.

[dry flame]

Oh boy, I have a whole new message board to haunt! 😄

Oh, and they're SO salty. Hold my calls.

[lavish rain]

Sure, but at the same time, tell us somthing

[fallow niche]

...they will when they have something to tell.

[dry flame]

Wait. Hang on. I was just being a smartass, but you really do want someone to come out every day and say "nothing new, check back tomorrow"?

[fallow niche]

I dont know why you're pinging me.

[lavish rain]

No way they don't have somthing if it's 2023 release and they've barely told us info thus far

[dry flame]

[lavish rain]

No

[dry flame]

Then what the hell do you want?! XD

No, really, absolutely serious question here. Do you even know what you want in this case, if there's no news to share?

[lavish rain]

Them to not tell us it's coming 2023 if it's not ready by then

[dry flame]

What makes you think it's not going to be? The lack of daily updates?

Again, very serious question here.

[lavish rain]

Barely telling us anything if the release date seems so close

[split dove]

the ark community mindset at it's best

[dry flame]

It's almost a damn year away, how is that even close?!

[ocean mason]

2023 could be the last day of the year lol

[tropic crag]

They will tell us if it's not ready for 2023... when/if it's not going to be ready by 2023, tf are you on about dude

[dry flame]

Are you really expecting this on 1/1?

[lavish rain]

I don't want 6 delays

[dry flame]

Everyone's gonna be hung TF over on 1/1.

[dry flame]

Um... what if they need it?

[ocean mason]

Delays are good

[lavish rain]

Don't tell us a date to begin with then

Even if it's a year

[split dove]

it's only been one, and they've told us before the last minute

[tropic crag]

It's the whole goddamn year, bruv

[dry flame]

*Then people complain about not having a date and then it's just *

[lavish rain]

I don't care about the date, I want info on the game

[split dove]

you got the steam page

[dry flame]

There is no info. Check back tomorrow.

[lavish rain]

As long as the game does come out

[ocean mason]

We got a decent amount of info on the games page

[split dove]

everytime you say the xbox event gave info people only remember the small teaser, not the steam page

[dry flame]

I say they just don't say anything at all until it's ship-ready and actually on the street for a few days.

[lavish rain]

Becausei. Didn't have the right words sheesh

[dry flame]

Then just be like "oh yeah we dropped a new game on your asses lol"

[lavish rain]

Game would flop from a lack of marketing, that, would for sure happen

[dry flame]

This game already doesn't have marketing.

It didn't get marketing until Vin Diesel's kid played it.

Ark 2 will be the first Ark with marketing.

M-ARK-eting.

[tropic crag]

We have plenty of info, go read it over and over again if you're really pining that much for info

[split dove]

no new pun, check in tomorrow

[dry flame]

You win.

And Ark 3 will be solely about marketing.

Vin Diesel stars as an ad man assigned to bring in clients among the dinos.

[lavish rain]

3 years from now "we have plenty of info, go read this steam article from 4 years ago"

[dry flame]

What do you want someone to tell you right now, today, about the current state of Ark 2? What, exactly, is the information you seek?

Aside from what's already available, since you're keenly aware of such.

[lavish rain]

It will be so long that some idiot will pull a gta6 on ark 2

I hope that dosent happen

[dry flame]

That tells me nothing.

[lavish rain]

But it just might

[dry flame]

No, it really doesn't.

What exactly are you seeking to learn?

[lavish rain]

It means that we will have so little info in such an amount of time, someone's gonna hack WC to get info

[dry flame]

Listen. I'm trying to help you here.

[lavish rain]

Gameplay trailer, idfk

[ocean mason]

Patience

[dry flame]

You want a gameplay trailer.

[lavish rain]

Tell us a new feature about the game

New creatures and their abilities

Info on the launch map(s)

[dry flame]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

You're datamining. Got it.

This better be for strategic advantage only and nothing nefarious.

[split dove]

fighting dens

[lavish rain]

Info on why meeka is treated as some sacred artifact

[lavish rain]

No?

[dry flame]

See, that's another damn good reason to not show too much of one's hand in this field. There's others out there who want that info to see if they can get a jump on making new cheats.

And if I were you, I'd just go with the datamining reason. The only other reason I can think of isn't pleasant to consider.

[lavish rain]

New growabkes

[lavish rain]

Hmm, fair point.
then why the fu

[dry flame]

I mean, if it fills the gap I can just make stuff up.

Let's see what I can pull out of my ass here...

Oh! I got it! It's delayed because EA bought it, and it's just gonna be like Madden now.

Basically we get a roster update for the dinos.

And a sim mode, where you can be the dino.

[lavish rain]

I would be a huge L if they don't reveal on extra life, nof saying they have to

[dry flame]

Oh, and a truck stick.

[tropic crag]

You are a huge L

[lavish rain]

Wasn't that the scrapped primal survival mode

[dry flame]

A counterpoint: Since the event's about charity, wouldn't it be bad optics -- and by extention, bad marketing -- to try and take that spotlight away from kids to show a few new minutes of footage?

I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just saying there's other things to consider here.

[split dove]

they only donate mostly to make their misserable rates on official better, not to help some kids

[dry flame]

I prefer targeted donations, but multiple paths. And it is a reputable charity.

[lavish rain]

Ark community: "we want the creature roster"
WC: oh you want a rooster? The rooster will be in ark 2!"

[dry flame]

Releasing an entire roster this far off of date would be courting disaster.

[lavish rain]

Agreed

[ocean mason]

Would prefer it if all the roster didnt get revealed tbh

[lavish rain]

Tell us a new creature, however would be great

[split dove]

keeps some surprises

[dry flame]

I actually wonder if there will be more than a handful of new ones.

It's already an extensive roster, and a lot of overlap exists. What could be added that's new that we don't already have?

[lavish rain]

Stoner dino

[dry flame]

It CAN be done -- there's the desmo -- but it's not easy. How would fans of the series think that would look?

[dry flame]

Dude, moschops.

[split dove]

no no, that's you already

[dry flame]

Or gachas.

[lavish rain]

Add my pfp as a dino?!? 😂

[dry flame]

They eat everything and anything, sit around grinning, are at their happiest if they have a mate... how are they not stoners?

They even eat stone. Gachas = stoner dino.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I hope some dinos DON'T make the cut -- gachas first among them.

It's a fantastic mechanic. They're adorable AF. But they don't make sense at all.

[fallow niche]

Lettuce keep it ark 2

[ocean mason]

I hope alot of the weird dinos dont come over. Manas for example

[dry flame]

Less can definitely be more with Ark 2.

[lavish rain]

Pls no manas

[fallow niche]

Sincerely hope it's less fantasy creatures

[split dove]

i just want a ark 2 mantis (and spino)

[ocean mason]

Cryopods tho i kinda dont want them back Xd

[dry flame]

Cryos ARE problematic. "Is that a giga in your pocket or are you j--" throws out giga "Please don't finish that joke."

[lavish rain]

I don't see that happening, some form of Dino storage will come, and a form of mass Dino transportation is more likely than not

[dry flame]

I would also like to see more realistic takes on mutations.

Like, these gigas should have five arms growing out of their heads.

[ocean mason]

Actually seeing deformities would be nice

[dry flame]

...I wonder if that's what's meant when they go on about UE5 abilities...

[ocean mason]

Possibly

The thirdperson im happy for, rarely even use first in normal game anyways

[dry flame]

It's brilliantly done in Warframe and Conan both.

[ocean mason]

Yup especially conan

[winged dome]

I expect an increase. It is an alien planet after all, and most of the 'famous and recognizable' dinos have been done already

[dry flame]

Are we sure it's an alien planet?

Serious question, haven't been following the promo stuff.

[winged dome]

100%.

[split dove]

it ain't earth, so by technicality yes

[dry flame]

I wonder where.

...what if the other maps were other planets

[winged dome]

In space, I'd imagine

[dry flame]

Technically, everything IS in space.

[ocean mason]

Its def another planet

[split dove]

Arat does have 2 moons we can see in the trailers

[dry flame]

Now I want planets as other maps, and spaceships to get there.

[lavish rain]

Bro, did you not read the steam page, ark2 trailer, or see the gen2 ending? It's 100% an alien planet

[dry flame]

I told you, I didn't follow the promo material. I never do on games.

[lavish rain]

They said no tek, and I swear to god they add Elon musk to ark I'm gonna lose my fucking mind

[dry flame]

Aww, I want tek.

[fallow niche]

[split dove]

'' ''sighs'' another lost soul that hasn't looked at pins''

[dry flame]

Yeah, I like the stuff I make up more.

Like how Ark 2 is going to be a gacha dancing dating sim with free-build and a top-down FPS.

(You heard me. Top down. FPS.)

It'll all be in fourth-person perspective.

Oh, and it's a platformer.

[lavish rain]

fourth person?!?!?! What black magic is this

[dry flame]

The best kind -- imaginative!

[split dove]

it's the perspective of the guy filming the third person view

[dry flame]

OMG yessssssssss

Ark 2: You Are The Cameraperson

Actually, don't let me lie to you. Ark 2 is going to be just a visual novel, and Vin Diesel is going to play literally every role.

Some of his best work is as Girl Next Door, but you can be the judge later on.

(Unless I get sued for saying this.)

[winged dome]

Literally every role, including the dinosaurs

[ripe cedar]

Except for bob who is still voiced by Karl Urban

[bold juniper]

Cus bob

[fallow niche]

This is not #ark-animated-series

[mint swan]

Any guesses when we will see gameplay footage or any news?

[fallow niche]

Hoping for news during the Extra Life stream on the 5th, but no official confirmations

[mint swan]

🙏

[blissful perch]

Yea I’m gonna voice the above and say you’re probably gonna be disappointed on the creature roster. I suspect there’s gonna be a whole section dedicated to local alien fauna

[fallow niche]

Probably, but I'm not that picky as long as I get to play eventually

[blissful perch]

I'm very picky about mutations...since it's such a dang pain and it makes gameplay so shallow

As for extra life...I'm not entitled to news but I do think that for a 2023 release it would be most logical to say something about ark 2 during your largest community event. Even if it's casual things like what was said at PAX that keep the hype train rolling and show us that stuff is happening

[lavish rain]

Shifter just said what I couldn't but was trying to say

[lavish rain]

Let's swap communication stats

[static sparrow]

Honestly I’d literally be down just to learn about the general environment/aesthetics of Ark 2

Local alien fauna sounds like it could be pretty darn cool

I’m mostly wanting to understand what it is that the gameplay entails, but general theme/aesthetic is also very neat

[blissful perch]

i had to earn my communication skills, so no thanks 🙂

[blissful perch]

I'd love to see concept art if we don't see gameplay. I know I was hooked on genesis 2's artwork

I do recommend reading the ping @static sparrow . I think the best case scenario for extra life news would be a walkthrough of something we don't know much about like the tame management system or how breeding will work. Though I suspect those will only be revealed on release so maybe I'll make do with concept art or Jesse telling us about stuff

[past wind]

I think some highlights about the new map/map system is also a possibility

[static sparrow]

Yeah, I think we won’t get much until the release as well

Maybe they’ll surprise us

I’d also LOVE to know about the breeding system! I only play Ark1 because of breeding, so for me the breeding system for Ark2 will probably be a huge make or break for me

[untold ingot]

Totally. I am interested at seeing how they handle it too. The current breeding system is a bit broken and messes up the pve balance of the game, but ark without breeding would just be the worst

[static sparrow]

It’s a broken system but it also makes the game at the same time in a weird way. I wouldn’t want the game without it, but I think stat wise rebalancing is very needed. Nothing is a threat with a bred creature aside from glitches/bugs XD

I think the colour system isn’t really that bad at all (aside from maybe regions? Also eye mutations would be so cool!) but stats? Yoikes

[split dove]

if stat mutations are a thing, a functioning cap is very much required

[untold ingot]

Yeah, for sure. I am hoping to see a dino skill tree that gets affected by the breeding, and possibly visual modifications to the Dino other than just color

[winged dome]

Mutate Dodos until they become fliers again

[grave hawk]

Make colour mutations useful

Extra stealth for certain colourations

[winged dome]

Hot pink spots: +5% stealth

[grave hawk]

Exactly, you get it

[static sparrow]

breeding species that are similar for wacky hybrids

[untold totem]

Hybrids limited the roster more

I rather have more aliens in an actual alien planet

[untold ingot]

I feel like hybrid dinos is too much to expect. But carno having bigger horns that give them a bleed skill, with fresh tame ones not having that could be good

[static sparrow]

Hybrids is a lot

I also wouldn’t genuinely want hybrids tbh

I feel like they’d just look weird

[stray elm]

They could have a alien-species that's compatible with certain other species. Allowing you to have hybrids, but on a limited scale.

Kind of like a animalistic version of the Asari from Mass-Effect.
A parasite that's breedable with anything. (or in this case, a few handful of other species.)

[ionic meteor]

I feel like hybrids are a bit too much and would be harder to implement

[stray elm]

Oh defiantly.
That's why 'if' they should do a system like that. It should be limited.

[ionic meteor]

honestly i'm really excited to see the native creatures of arat, i feel like they gonna go crazy with their designs

[ionic meteor]

i could see that being added in a later dlc then yeah that would be very cool

[fallow niche]

The raptors in the trailer look amazing

I'm excited to see more

[stray elm]

Oh yeah, as a day-one thing that's a no go.

[blissful perch]

I see it as a directly competing system with adding new creatures, so I’m very hesitant. Hybrids can be fun in some contexts but the chimera style slapping of different creature’s body parts isn’t very immersive in an ecological sense

[stray elm]

Sure, but neither is a being made of pure magma

[blissful perch]

Uh what does that have to do with my statement

[stray elm]

Immersion