#ark-animated-series
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I'll tell you why.
Inclusivity.
Everyone is always tired of having a straight white male character having the spotlight in everything, yet, when someone who ISN'T people complain?
A homosexual man had a mission to end another and died in the process.
If that bothers you in some way, I'm sorry but that just seems childish.
Again, I have never seen the "Homosexual man dies" thing once in my entire life.
because we are used to it, it's a normal trope as a 'token black character"
And there's no problem with it, now is there?

Everyone wanting to get treated the same, yet, when they are put in the shoes of a normal character they are uncomfortable.
it's not even considered normal if "90% is you will die because you are not a "normal person" under the standards of a "normal person""
Again, I have never seen that.
Seems like fantasy, to me.
Here's the question.
There is a homosexual man who wants to be treated the same as everyone else. (Normal character things.)
He is treated the same as everyone else. (Yongki not being a soft happy story and being one of the MANY sad ones out there.)
He is upset. (Yongki story not being some fantastical, mystical perfect adventure where he wins.)
Why?
There's more to stories than happy endings.
See Genesis: Part 2.
There is a British antagonist who dies.
Why aren't Brits taking offense or calling it bad representation?

You can’t really make these statements saying what they’re saying isn’t true, when you haven’t seen any of their evidence. In this case, I doubt its them making things up, and you just not seeing the things happening
You simply don't understand what we wann say.
People are saying "Bad representation".
I am making a counter-argument.
Simple as that.
i made a good example of one "good representation" just ONE compared to the countless bad ones from movies, TV shows, and games combined
No, you simply don't understand or don't want to understand our points.
No, I feel like that's you, my friend.
That is the main problem here and you compare it with things it can't be compared with.
shifting blame
I'm comparing homosexual people to people who are not. How can they not be compared?
Are they different? What makes one of the other so special?

You compare homosexual representation with straight representation.
Which is not the same.
What makes one of the other so special?
Because homosexual representation is much more on the bad side than the good side
And that proofes you don't understand what our point is.
yep, the homosexual side always get "the bad, and the ugly" while the straight sides gets "the good, the bad, and the ugly"
Perry said it, crypto sayd it seveal times what the issue is, I did several times and you don't understand it.
This is odd, because the only sort of representation of homosexuals I've seen is primarily positive.
That's not an answer, pal.

What do you see as positive ? The happy stereotypical homosexual that behaves like a femalish man giggling, etc ? Sorry, that is not a happy or realistic reepresantation.. that is the making fun of them representation.
Oh, so a homosexual can't be happy? They can't be unhappy either?
stereotypes =/= good representation
Also I answered allready that I said they don't need to be special but that it is shit to allways get represented as the weak, the one with issues.. the dumb, the steretype or the one dying..
And Yongki breaks this "stereotype" by being different.
People wouldn't be complaining if he had some amazing splendid happy ending, which he didn't. He died.
Let me state for the one-thousand-two-hundred-nintey-sixth time that I have not seen this "Dead homosexual" stereotype.
that is not "breaking steriotype", Yonki is still bearing a "negative steriotype"
If you provide me examples, I'll be more than happy to research them.

C'mon now, gimme some examples.
like i just giving you an example, Steven Universe tackles both LGBT rep and Mental Issues in a tasteful manner
what Yonki did is more irrational and needless even if hes streight as a board, he only exist just to make Vin looked good... hence he's a token
Finally, we’re getting somewhere
If you can provide me actual evidence, I'll always be more than happy to listen. Yet, none is being provided.
Except for this.

i already proven my point that there is no other show that pulls the LGBT rep better than Steven Universe
Irrational and needless is literally anything anyone does. He was broken and destroyed mentally, he had a reason. He had a goal. Cause and affect.
Nobody complained when Rockwell killed off entire tribes back in Scorched Earth, being the British bad-guy.
He had close to no reason to do so.
because he has rooted intentions like wants to keep the element for himself unlike Yonki who just angry and g.ay
Being irrational and making needless decisions is fine for a straight character, they always have the good representations. But once a homosexual does that, it just adds to the many bad representations that they have
Being homosexual has nothing to do with the reason he blew up the bank??
That's the baboon mindset I'm talking about. Straight people have more bad representation than homosexuals do. Mainly because homosexuals aren't as present, but still. I don't complain because Rockwell is a mass murderer. Is it bad representation for me, a straight person?
No.
being homosexual as a "damsel in distress" to make Vin good is the problem
seeing homosexuals as "always troubled, always bad" in multiple visual media is a problem
And you don't get our point, but I give up and go back to drawing..
I mean, get upset over what you want, I'm just here to call it out for being irrational and silly.
Yongki was a side character, yeah. And he killed Vin, yeah. So what? Are you gonna get offended over a problem that doesn't exist?
It almost feels like someone out there wants to be opressed.
it wont be a problem if we get a g.ay version of Mei and Diana even if one of them dies in duty or have a troubled relationship
because that is normal, not steriotypical, and not feel forced a narrative
The entire narrative of Gen 2 was kind of forced.
Again, where are the complaining Brits? The complaining bald guys for being manly?
It's almost as if people are too sensitive to be put in the shoes of an antagonistic force.

r/woosh still not getting the point
how ironic

Anyways, people being hippocratic and sensitive. At the end of the day, it's a video game. A game whom's lore is often overlooked. I doubt even 20% of the playerbase knows about Yongki.
Therefore, even if it was bad representation, it wouldn't really get out there.

See, this is what it devolves into. One side getting offended, upset and acting childish because they don't like the other's opinion.
Nothing against you, Madz.
from you emoji spamming, not listening to our opinion, ignoring evidences... kinda sums up this "argument"
Emoji spam? You and Jamie have been reaction to 60% of the comments in this debate.
what is why we stop "arguing with you"
I feel like you're not willing to stand your ground, unlike I.
And I STILL haven't been given ONE example of the "Bad representation" in media.
that is not even the point of this debate, it's not even a contest on who's right
A show, movie, anything.
That is literally the point of a debate, for both sides to explain their POV and defend their ideas.
I simply don't argue with someone that does not wanna see our point. I have better things to do than waste my time with someone who wants to be right so badly they don#t even want to understand what we actually saying.
ok then
south park, family guy, the simpsons, american dad, most from comedy central, most comedic movies
You've said this before, yet you're still here. It's almost as if you wanna stick around for the conversation.
Keyword, comedic. Obvious stereotypes, exaggerations of reality. Something people laugh at because it's not meant to be taken seriously.
what i am seeing from this conversation is just "why are you booing at me, i'm right
"
Nah, boo at me all you want. I don't really care.
I'm obviously more determined to stand my ground than both of you combined.
again, it's not a contest on who stays in the chat the longest
Thus, you have resorted to Emojis and half-baked comments instead of actual arguments.
You've devolved into "No." "That's not what I'm saying." "
".
basically we copy what you did
Oh boo-hoo, I used like, 3 Emojis. Are you guys gonna get offended over that, as well?

Bad Emoji representation?
C'mon now, we all know
is a banger.
because we cant take you seriously after you ignored our "actual argument" and resort to just full on emoji spam
Which is something that never happened. Using one Emoji every ten-fifteen sentences isn't "Emoji spam". Reacting to every other message I send is.
and since you are intent of "winning the argument" that's our time to never be serious
Eh, there is no winning this argument. This is pretty much stalemate.
I mean I'm gonna hold onto my opinion and you can hold on to yours.
I'm just saying what I'm seeing and feeling. 
Tiska tuska
killing queer characters off has been a trope in media for so long. it was especially bad in the 1930-1960s where the were a set of rules in Hollywood screenwriting, called the Hays Code, that made it so lgbt characters that appeared in movies HAD to die ON SCREEN to punish the characters for being "perverse" and promoting "bad values". so these were characters created by writers for the exact purpose of being murdered or commit unalive to push some anti-lgbt moral agenda, not organic, relatable, human characters.
an article from 2013 stated "Since Philadelphia there have been, by my count, 257 Academy Award-nominated portrayals of heterosexual characters, and 23 of 🇬ay, bisexual or transsexual characters. Of the heterosexual characters, 16.5% (59) die. Of the LGBT characters, 56.5% (13) die. Of the 10 LGBT characters who live, only four get happy endings. so between 1993 (when Philadelphia came out) and 2013 (when this article was written)
if you want a shorter, video-essay that touches on why so many people are tired of mlm rep getting killed off, you could watch Rowan Ellis video "Bury Your 🇬ays: Why Do LGBT Characters Always Have To Die?"
or "exhausted homosexual reacts to destiel" for a more a more rambling, conversational video that talks about the queerbaiting, lack of representation, and BuryYour🇬ays trope that we have had to deal with as an audience for so long in the context of one scene from a tv show that might give you more context for these frustrations.
if you'd rather read a scholarly article "Bury Your 🇬ays: History, Usage, and Context" by Haley Hulan is pretty short and covers more variety of perspectives and gives historical and social context for the movies or books it discusses.
Prepare to copy your message as it may get deleted for "bypassing the filter"
I had to copy it a lot to figure out what words where getting me auto deleted lol
I tried to only not change words that were in direct quotes or names
No this doesnt violate the spirit of the rules
Good.
Ah ok
Again, don't believe in the "trope" and haven't seen it at all. Reacting
doesn't do anything either.
Can we just say that there used to be a lot of trope against homosexual people but luckily it kinda slowed down and now we are starting to get the happy homosexual trope and end this here?
I mean we can say anything we want, but it doesn't make it true or false.
I know, i'd just rather end it here
As it's been going on for a whole day
And if any person that is extreme on one of the sides of this topic joins then we might as well consider this topic over but in a bad way, so let's end this here before any twitter/facebook user joins
I don't believe it because I haven't personally noticed it isn't the counterpoint you seem to think it is
i have to wonder why so many commercials decided to go with lesbian couples, what their rationale was. is it less offensive to homophobes than mlm couples? they're very common now and i have no idea why
hmmmm i think things have gotten better but there's still a long way to go
i disagree with the latter; it helps display the popularity of an opinion which is helpful when you're talking about a complex topic
it's more of a "i agree" without needing to repeat what someone just said hence it's a reaction
I think F/F is more accepted in general, especially by men (at least my experience) so people get less offended by F/F than my M/M. I for example got attacked in PMs, on artsites etc. only cause I do M/M art and it happens on e regular base. I have seen less bad comments on F/F art, so it also still happens on it as well.
We should rename this to chat to lgbt discussion
i mean it's related to animation and whole forms of visual media as a whole
No
Nonono, we need a homosexual chat, bisexual chat, asexual chat, etc
wait what?
great, out of nowhere they wanna flip that switch for no reason whatsoever.
I'm just gonna call it pandering and move on
it doesnt makes sense to me either but it is what it is
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is the ark animated series about ark1 or 2
Looks like ark 1, considering ark 2 has not released. The pins in this channel have the trailer, if you have not seen it.
The animated is Helenas story from the Ark 1 explorer notes.
^
Pre ark one
Its the story of the history of ark 1, but before the gameplay of ark 1
Pretty sure Helena is gonna be long gone in ark 2, so I’m saying it’s most likely ark 1
Anyone know when we might see the TV show in 2022
Nope
This is the story of the Survivors before us.
And a very small portion of their past lives.
ark 1 trailer but its better
Yeah, since ARK 2 is a continuation of ARK 1, and you know, Helena died an H-LNA in Genesis 2
So you're right, we won't see Helena in Ark 2
It is actually in the pins that it will tell Helenas story (the story from the Notes).
So it is Pre-Ark 1.
Ik
It's actually good for the players who doesn't know the story of Helena
And for the ones who know it will also enjoy the series
I mean, it will be on the ARK, so it just can be good
Only cause it is on the Arks is no gurantee it will be good. There is a lot more needed to make a series good.
You're right, but look at the trailer. It can't be so bad. Hopefully.
Wildcard created one of the best survival games out there, I don't think they will mess this up
Best 'survival' game is subjective. But a good game, yes.
Really fun survival game?
ARK's a fun game. But i can barely call it a 'survival' game, in all honesty.
Ohhh,what kind of game is it to you personally?
A bit of literally everything.
Though, if i have to pick one. ARK's more of a Tamagotchi game.
lmao, i wish i could dispute you
Can't argue with that. 
Lol that hurts in a fun way
But yeah its like survival,building,fps,anything that kills your computer fast
I just can't really call ARK a 'survival' game just cause it has a food and hunger system.
I see survival games more like The Forest, The Long Dark, Green Hell.
'Those' are more of survival games then ARK, to me.
Mm the forest,the only game that made me audibly gag. But yeah i get it, it has survival game aspects and all that,like sometimes i try to think of something to call it that fits what kinda game it is,like how it is with rust and i think dayz, where you build a base and survive other players and such.
Like a uhh…tower defense????
DayZ doesn't have base mechanics.
It doesnt??
Dang i thought it did,tho word of mouth isnt really reliable i shoulda known that 😅
you can build a base in dayz
yes there is base building mech in Day Z
Anyone know when this shi actually gonna come out
📌
Damn
Was always announced for 2022. Its still 2021 atm
I said 'one' of the best survival games
Which is still subjective in the end.
Why isn't it a survival game? You have to get food, water, resources, etc. There are Dinosaurs, but that why it is ark
Yeah
Cause you can easily cheese all of the mechanics in less then a hour and be set with most things that's the "survival" part.
Not only i mean it, some websites wirite this about the game
Ark is more a taming/breeding simulator than a real survival game. Real survival games have more complex hunger/thirst mechanics, hunting mechanics, etc in general.
Ik but why is it called than 'Survival' Evolved?
You have infinite food from bushes, you have infinite water with no issues drinking from the ocean.
The only thing you're surviving from really is the creatures and players.
Cause you eat and drink, and some people think that's the minimalistic of what makes a survival game a survival game.
Names can be missleading, like with movies.. they might be named like a book or a game and in the end have nealry nothing in common with it anymore.
Ark is like 5% survival and the rest is taming, building, breeding.
for me survival is more than just eating, building shelter is part of survival imo (no matter how elaborate), taming creatures for utility and defense improves survival also imo
I agree with that and that's a really good way of putting it bluestone
I agree.
Though praising ARK for it's survival mechanics is kind of like praising Minecraft with it's hunger system.
Sure, you can, and no one will stop nor should judge you. But compared to other games in the survival genre. Minecraft is pretty lacking in that department.
the only thing different between minecraft and ARK is how fast you can get to the end game
and surviving hard AI mobs vs surviving toxic PVP-ers
The problem with Ark is that the survival aspect gets lost pretty fast when you have some good dinos, which is kinda easy to achieve.
Not to mention how fast you can rush to end Tier.
getting good at surviving is a goal anyway imo, it wouldnt feel like progress if you didnt get better at it
That is right but it goes way to fast with Ark.
6years of DLC down the road yea
it will get shorter if you breed good enough
after like reaching 100k hp & 1k melee on theris, everything in SP is a breeze at this point
Don't know man. I've never in my 6 years of playing ARK have had actual issues with eating.
Berries are everywhere.
Same, I never starved to death in Ark.
Same with water.. you can drink even the sea water without consequences.
berries is bottom tier survival in ark
better for bottoms to not eat meat anyway
Like, and?
The point in survival is to just do that. Survive and not die.
Berries may be bottom tier, but none the less you can stockpile on them and live off of them.
We are making different points so dont worry about it 🙂
food and water in ARK doesnt affect that much unless you go to far more temperate areas/maps like Val
i'm talking about SP here
Tiska tuska
plus you can speedrun through levels to get higher level engrams anyways
that's the only thing that ruins the "survival aspect" aside from having "superdinos"
Honestly, if ARK just had more posioness food that can't be tell apart from the good ones, and you have to boil your water beforehand. Then that alone would make the game a lot more harder in the survival department.
tbh stockpiling makes that mechanic null and void anyways
i prefer higher tier foods gain max HP/Stam for a limited time while limiting the "food slot" like Valheim has
even just making berries give much less food and ocean water undrinkable would go a long way to solve it
basically berries are food to go
doesnt matter where you are
@fair trout @fervent stag I've benn thinking, and you're actually right. Ark is more a taming and breeding game which is good to play with friends. But it has a bit of Survival at the beginn of an island
and ocean water is a garantueed very much prevalent dinkingosurce
Well, yeah. ARK's fun.
It's just that, even though the title has it in it, the game lacks heavy survival mechanics in it.
Nothing wrong with that. Just something i wanted to point out.
I'd argue its like minecraft, most representative genre being a sandbox game
I also wanted to say that lol
Ark can be fun and it is best with friends, IMO.
Agreed
But as Bootleg says, it has no heavy survival mechanics which is not bad but also not what people might expect of a survival game.
That's rigth, but Ark is sometimes quite hard and complicated, which makes it interesting.
Oh 100%
so did we find out who is directing the animated series?? #ark-animated-series
IMDB says Jay Oliva
It also says it in the description for the trailer 🙂
No frickin way……….im kinda behind………. But REALLY??? Thats cool ngl
Behind by a year lol?
I mean its not the most talked about topic in here so i understand
you wait until its out
Not yet, it isnt even 2022 yet which is the year they announced
did they announce a realese date or just 2022?
ty
rockwell is the last boss in ark
until we get genesis part 2, part 2
@last wind you can try in #ark-survival-ascended or the pvp or pve discussion channels, this channel is for ark animated.
my b
What will the series be on?
We dont know yet
Mk thanks tho
Animated series, not anime though.
Anime is short for animated because there is no Japanese word for it
They said it was not anime, which is why I said it.
Yes it's no Shonen or Moe but in Japan, Anime IS Cartoons
But we all agree ARK is an Isekai
I think there’s gonna be the same amount of episodes that there are notes in the game
14 episodes and 2 seasons are what we know atm.
7 ep per season?
14 30 min episodes for season 1
Ok
They never said how long they were and they never said how many were in a season
Since when
well the trailer says 30 minutes with 14 episodes in development but who can trust the official source of the people making it
nobody reads the description i guess
It never said 14 episodes in one season
It said 14 30-minute episodes with two seasons
next time Dollie comes by she should solve this discrepancy or anyone else that can confirm the answer
didn't they say it was approved for 2 seasons?
so essentially 28 episodes. That should be plenty to cover the events of the Island, and maybe some Scorched Earth
Wdym approved?
Yes
Also 2 seasons could be just the island too we dont know
No, they never said 14 episodes per season. All they said was 14 episodes, each 30 minutes long, with two seasons
That could perfectly well mean 14 per, but we don’t know
exactly, I read all of the journal entries when I was on my 2019 deployment covering everything up to Extinction. I knew the minute I finished it that they NEEDED to make a anime or live action TV show.
Those journals leave you wanting more and definitely feel like they were planning a show or series or single player game from the perspective of the protagonists or something, but maybe just didn't write everything out.
I mean you can only explain so much in 30 smallish pages
They've got characters, plot, motive, some background, events we don't see only read the aftermaths about from all of their perspectives.
My imagination went wild
I'd love to see Mei Yin and her tames battle the monke in animation
What if the first 14 are early island and season two is middle maybe late island
heck yes 😄
I'm excited to see the MEK training scene and battles if they ever get that far with the animation
I’d love that because the Mei yin notes were my favourites
yo anyone know when da animated series actual coming?
no.. only 2022 is known
can anybody help me
Hello, this is the ark animated channel, you can ask for game help in #bobs-with-probs or another appropriate channel 
Is there any known information in which ott platform it might come
no
is there a release date of the series yet?
no only 2022 is known

So far they've only said 2022.... wait I'm getting visions of the future...... 2023......2024.....2025...... then it the vision ends
XD

😋
they said 2022 but i hope they show more about ark 2 and ark animated in a few hours in the game awards
I'm really excited for this show
like maybe a little too excited
I'm getting nostalgic vibes from like when I was a kid and the Men in Black and Godzilla animated series were coming out and I remember seeing previews of it on magazines and previews on TV and getting excited for it. I'm feeling the same way about the ARK animation but this is going to be way more mature I hope and much more serious than the previous made for TV animated series shows.
same
Is there a release clue or hint?
2022
LF Graphik Designer for Logos!
Hmu!
Does this involve the Ark Animated series that is schedule to release? If not, it does not belong in this channel.
@solar gull
Honestly I'm just waiting for the announcement that they've delayed it we didn't get anything at extra life or game awards so I'm guessing maybe 2023
Its not even 2022 yet.
they had very little reason to announce stuff at the game awards again in my opinion but yeah the lack of info is annoying
It's just the fact that if they were going to announce anything it would have been at those two events
I mean isn't game awards 2020 where they revealed Ark 2 and the animated series
some images would be cool
Maybe like creature/character designs, like they did several months ago
I want to see Bob :(
It better be a deformed monstrosity
I dont see why they stopped if you dont want to give away character designs just show us dinos, we already somewhat know what they look so why not
I want Bob built like a discord mod
Bob is honestly probably just gonna be the default base survivor
Yay
last i heard thay were looking for someone show it
Yeah but my big thing is if they were going to show anything about art 2 or the animated series it would have been at extra life or game awards
Whats the rush lol
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As long as it's good idc
i hope they don't decide to alter the story of ark
i've always wondered what the story would look like told from wildcard
i mean we have a lot of youtubers doing a great job but yk
they would "for the sake of being entertaining"
i mean the trailer itself is an indication of it
Helena is passive in island, she never fight (that's from a note) until she wield a gun in SE
ARK Santiago noted that she sucks at piloting a Mek
but the lore is already so good
Wait, is every season gonna be the survivors on a different map. Kinda like how avatar spends a different season with a different element. Cause If so that's cool as heck
That would be cool
nope, it's all about Helena on this one...according to ARK's main menu and the trailer itself
they have too if they went off the notes it would be pretty bear bones - they need to add more to the story then that tbf
Do they have a cast yet?
i think helenas been cast
yep, look up in the ARK wiki
the actor who did her in gen 2 other then that idk
i hope she have more energy than what HLNA become in Gen
Is Vin deisle in this 🧐
probs will - i did like Gen2 HLNA tbf
its on IMBD
i find the new HLNA more depressed tbh
especially on missions
I was kidding
ehh i guess thats more subjective tbh. I prefered her but i see why
I want to see how she is in more of a role then HLNA because i dont think that would show how much talent she has
oh.
Yeah but that's still cool
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what happend
i'm not allowed to say the H-word apparently
oh f i guess
Fuck?
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Ik this is a very long shot but imagine if they had Legos for the ark series when it comes out
they wont even sell shirts, I doubt they will sell legos
Yeah but it would be awesome as hell
they never sell all forms of merch at all yet the dabble in some NFTs, cmon WC we want merch!
they do have merch that they have made they just don't sell it you have to win a giveaway or work at wildcard to get it
oh wow
I don't know about the other shit. But the noglin hats aren't even fully theirs either.
You can commission one from the original creature if i recall right on Etsy.
So 'if' the other stuff like the stuffed dodo are also commissioned. Then technically they've had no official merch.
if its commisioned by the actual company doesnt that make it official merch
not that that is what I was even talking about
Not if it isn't distributed and manufactured officially.
well at least the ones for the giveaway were distributed by wildcard and I think getting it made in a factory vs by specific person wouldn't make a difference if wildcard is the one who requested it, or does it not count because it wasn't in bulk
RaeVan87 on Twitter and etsy (sorry I popped in and saw the convo)
Thank you.
If i recall right. It doesn't count since it's not in bulks.
But i could be wrong.
BOOKMARKED... gonna wait for the Sino
Are we going to see some tribal wars in Ark series?
we do not know
the original concept for the noglin hat was done by the lovely Rae (who does sell the ones she handmakes on her etsy shop) and we sent our own version to a professional manufacturer with her permission. Ours are made professionally with some slight alterations to the original pattern and with branding (tags, swing tags etc).
You can get Rae's lovely handmade ones via her, yes.
The plushies are all us/professional manufacturer, and branded. Annnnd all of the aforementioned are distributed by our distribution company
not that this is on topic at all haha
tldr: the stuff we giveaway is official merch
Thank you for correcting me.
Still want more merch. 👀
Aaaaaand also......we've been good this year Dollianta.
Could we 'pweaaase' get some some more artwork of the animated series Rockwell?
Or possibly, a screenshot of him in the show that doesn't have any spoilers? 👀
Early xmas present
back to the topic, yep
if you read the notes, there will be in-tribe warfare
Excellent
chad legion wrecks small fish boys in 4k
When is the release?
hype for rockwell and nerva to get married in ark animated, i think thats ognna be a great addition to the lore
Nerva's more of a hit it and quit it man. I dont think they get married, but they might Know each other in the biblical sense
i think thats gonna be a plot poitn in season 2 though yknow? rockwell and nerva get married season 1 but we get some juicy relationship drama in season 2. Nerva and Rockwell ended up getting married on a crazy trip to vegas

Drive through marriage
Yo
Hey
Hi
Evening gents. I just got in the ark server not long ago and I had a question about the series. Do we know if the other DLC maps such as Scorched and Abb are going to be in either season 1 or any future seasons?
We dont know yet
Idk but I hope each story ark has its own season or two
One season for each DLC map would be cool
yeah but if you read the notes, the story is kinda short especially if the story is gonna be focused on helena as a human (no HLNA)
especially SE
Technically there still could be a story using HLNA because HLNA is a part of Helena but have no idea how it will work because HLNA is just a robot
just have 50% of it be characters just wandering through the desert trying to find civilization
also I wonder if they will expand on any of the maps to make them look bigger or if everything we see in the show will be recognisable from in the game,
the genesis saga story is more focus on the drama in the ship more than HLNA tbh, that was before rockwell even entered the ship
If it isn’t purely focused on Helena we could have at least two or three seasons per map about the other notes like Mei yin
already stated in the game's main menu that it will be focused on helena
Yeah. Each map has its own potential and challenges to cover in the story.
Is there any news on the animated series yet
It is focused on Helena and 2 seasons for now. That is what is announeced.
14 episodes, per season or split in 2 seasons ? That is a bit unclear for now.
I could care less on what Helena does in the show I just wanna see Rockwells bullfuckry
if we only see it from Helenas side, that means Rockwell will be........ a twist villain
Actually the phrase is “couldn’t care less”. “Could care less”means you actually do care, though “could care less” sounds less rude
I just wanna see the dinos
They’re used interchangeably since 99% of people don’t care
would you say, they could care less? 🙂
Maybe 
Ok
So you know how we have been having the argument of whether it’s 14 episodes over 1 season or over 2 seasons
Well in the Gareth Coker interview Jesse says its 7 hours of music for season 1 and if its still 30 minutes per episode like the teaser trailer description said then season 1 is 14 episodes over about 7 hours
I was pretty sure it was this way the whole time but some people argued otherwise
When? Link? Dm?
Half an hours with ads
I think that only seeing from 1 pov will ruin it.
???
Yeah but you also should consider that he made 7h of music but they might not use all of it or not all of it in full length.
Which is pretty common in movies, that often only parts are used in scenes not the whole track.
Like Ori and the blind forest has some tracks that never got used ingame but you have them on a special OST edition.
Well from hearing the interview it seems like every scene has unique music even if it is similar to other parts or in the background because the characters are talking or whatever, since the music is specifically for the scenes in the show i dont think it will be that way
Yeah but the show will also have parts without music I guess.
And never all music is taken.
wdym never all music is taken, it seems like there is unique music for every scene so I dont see how it would be wasted, do most shows do this no, but that is what I am taking away from what they said
I didn’t say it is wasted or anything only that you can‘t really know how much episodes there will be by the amount of music made.
when is it coming out
@twin swan keep this channel about the animated series, please use #ark-survival-ascended or #general for other topics.
@low sable all info that we have is in the pinned messages in this channel.
dude seeing ark animated is gonna be pretty cool excited for the release]
Theres nothing to talk about
Should Dollie change her name to start with a J, Jesse, Jeremy and Jat all do
Jollie
jomplexminded
Jesse! Jesse! We need to fix the gam
When does it release?
probably soon, bc iirc they are currently looking for wich streaming site wants it
2022, no date yet.
Ok
If they isn’t a seen of someone getting shot up by a velo I’ll be very sad
Will there be all maps in the series?
Like scorched and aberration
Ya
probably but we don't know 100%
there has literally been nothing said about that
yeah no definative proof as of yet....
release date? still cant find anything about it
2022
2022 is literally a whole year. So at any point.
Beginning, middle, or at the end.
Wildcard isn't animating it.
is there information on what studio is animating it?
Don't remember the name. But it's the same studio that did Avatar the last Airbender.
Which explains the artstyle looking similar.
And we also don't know how long this series, nor ARK-2 have been in development for.
I wish animated didnt focus on jsut helena and showed multiple POVs like how neebs gaming does it
Don't get me wrong. Neebs is a great guy, and great to watch.
But his channel is defiantly not something you want to compare to a "full budgeted serious series" vs a "no budget, just for shits and giggles series."
I was comparing more so as showing the differrent POVs of each character
Not the actual quality
So.....like any other series that doesn't rely on the protagonist for the plot?
The Witcher is a good example of what i think you're talking about. 👀
I barely heard of teh whitcher so idk
The first season, there's 4 major characters.
There's Geralt, the protagonist. But then there's the other 3 that have half of episodes (these are hour long episodes) dedicated to 'their' story.
They all don't know each other, until more into the season. And by the end of the first season, they all basically meet up.
Something kinda like that is the books that Alan Gratz makes, where every chapter it switches to a new character until their stories merge
Obviously not just a him thing, a lot of people do that
It's a tactic used by writers to give the world more life in it, and to also help make the protagonist more likable with other characters.
Ya
I think sticking to one character is probably the best idea at least for this story
but thats solely my opinion and we still barely know how the show will be when it finally comes out
That would make Rockwell a twist villain
ark 2 should have an entirely different story
Why?
because the story was finished with gen 2, by having the story continue after that would be to make a lot of characters kind of pointless
Well.....Santiago would like to speak with you. 👀
I mean like, dont bring rockwell or element as a threat back
Rockwell i can agree with.
But not having element as a threat is like not having GLaDOS in Portal 3. Or the combine in Half-Life 3.
Element still has so much left to be explained about it. And Genesis-2 doesn't help with this factor. Cause now there's "multiple" planets infected by element in a way.
There's still answers that "need" to be answered with element.
There is no portal or half life 3???
Holy hell, it's a example.
I say leave it to ark 3 which my bet will be on earth after the arks return and we play as whoever is still there like maybey mey yim
Change it to 2
No
Ok whatever
meanwhile valve: what is this number 3 you speak of
hope we see a hog rider in the series
This is not clash of clans
phimonia driver
daeodon motorist
🏎️ Sarco go zoom
no
wildcard waiting to tell us we aint getting it until 2299
whats that got to do with an animated series? lol 🙂
wym?
this is the ark animated channel lol, so console/steam/etc doesnt have an impact here 😄
Mobile players I need you please join a unofficial server Japanese cake Asia
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Med
@woeful pasture this channel is for ark the animated series.
Animated series is on that server
Please keep this channel on topic, thank you.
is looks like legend of korra
because it is traced from the artbook for korra
cool
How about a bog stryder 
but we already have a bog spider
I...er...look kings of leon
🏃
How can you have loved something that hasn't been released yet
It hasn't been released yet
Whell the first animated thing is pretty cool so yeah i loved it
yea, i'm so disappointed it was cancelled. i was hoping we'd get at least one more season- excuse me, at least one season
Are any ark creators gonna be voice actors the show
How is the series gonna be is it just gonna be the island or will it be each season its a new map
karl urban plays who
The almighty Bob
lmfao
Season 1 is only going the cover the island
makes sense but will it progress each season to different maps
Do you know that tho?
I don’t remember anything saying that
a maewing Perry the Maewing
Any update on release timeframe?
if they do that, then they will feel pushed to get it out then, its better for it to be just: 2022
less disappointment if we dont get an exact date :P
I think Netflix, but that was around initial reveal
Maybe for 300th community crunch we will get something
The release date was in crunch 266, smh how did no one see it
When is the anime coming out
Not everyone reads or combs through them religiously 😂
266 was skipped, he was making a funny 🙂
wonder if good boi will be a main character
Might be each season is a different map?
They're asking if they have any proof of this factor.
That's my supposition because the characters listed on the cast list are all The Island characters, except Santiago. Not sure how Santiago comes into play, but seems like it'll at least mostly be The Island
dont all survivors start on the island normally? so maybe santiago was on his own adventure prior to meeting up with the others
afaik santiago and diana first spawned on ab as ab was an experiment with there being only tek-era people
Yeah it's their first ark. In the lore survivors remember having been on a previous ark, and they didn't know what was happening
No.
The Island is just one of many ARK's.
There is no "starting" ARK (to our knowledge.)
Some people started out on The Island.
Some on Scorched.
Some on Aberration.
Though, like Dollie stated. This series isn't following the traditional case of what's canon. (if i recall, that's what she said.)
So they could change some stuff for the series, that never happened in the game's canon.
wait, then why can't people ascend off of valguero and the nonstory arks
Cause those aren't canon maps.
but according to the story, the arks are designed to be nonlinear?
You choose what ARK you ascend from, yes.
But what does that have to do with non-canon maps?
just wanted to confirm
i guess i officially know so little about the lore that i consider explicitly non-canon arks canon
Like, if my memories serve me right. The Center isn't even set on a ARK to the original map designer. (Cause ARK's weren't a thing to the lore at the time.)
It was set at the center of Earth, where mythical creatures survived and thrived. (again, that's just from memory. Could be wrong.)
extinction isnt on an ark either, so a map not being an ark isnt crazy
wait a minute, arks not being arks? how has the story evolved over time (not just the story itself but how it changed) because now i want to know
so are the maps after it iirc
Correct.
But last time i checked. Earth doesn't have floating islands at its center. 😛
its a work of fiction last time I checked 🙂
And?
Fiction can still have rules within it.
Just ones that don't follow "our" rules.
i sure hope it's a work of fiction i enjoy earth being not obliterated
yea so floating islands doesnt need to be mirrored in reality rofl, this was your point not mine hah
Anyway. Ignoring anything Blue said.
It's also a bit odd that all of the ARK's in both the Islands and Aberration's ascensions where all Islands.
So, either the ARK's have "models" of stations. Meaning there's multiple Islands, Scorched, and Aberration before it was blown up stations.
Oooor they just didn't want to make every ARK in the endings all be unique, since that'd take more time then needed. So they just copy and pasted The Island.
evilmrfrank didnt work for wildcard when he made Center, so the map didnt have to follow the rules of the ark universe
Anyway. Ignoring anything Blue said.
Rude. Guess I will leave you to it then 🤷♂️
Correct. And so he made his own lore. (again, if i recall right.)
But you don't need to follow the rules of a universe, if the map isn't canon to it anyway. 
It’s kinda hilarious if ”bootleg Tamriel” is canon
He started on Abberation which was a paradise like the Island befor they blew the overseer part and he had no prior adventure. Regarding the note all of the Tek tribe spawned on the Abberation ark.
i cant wait to see Nerva burn in 4k
Although it’s focused on Helena’s story I hope it dedicates at least one episode to how the arks were thought upon and got into the state that Helena finds them
I'd doubt it will dedicate a single episode towards it, more like maybe a couple of scenes/fillers here and there in the first 3 episodes or so
We don’t know
I really wanna see nerva fighting with mei yin
I hope the animation team does research on fighting styles from the eras and regions
I hope they show definitively the dinos both actually used, as well as the scale of their armies. Now that would be bussin
mhm
it would be tricky though because it has to be shown how used dinos are while not forgetting that people can do things
"Bootleg Tamriel" that's now what I will refer to Lost Island as
When will the series come out and where can I watch it?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Do we have a release date for the animated tv show yet
imagine nerva's army animated. would be so freaking cool
probs from a distance showing some black sticks bobbing up and down
I just want to see an ark players experience as like a short
Just walking until you get frosted by a mama and your thatch hut with 3 herbivores gets obliterated
Manas doesn't exist in the island and SE where most tribe warfare happened in lore and there there is no tribe warfare in ext lore
In lore, transfers are just one way with no dinos
I know but you know those dumb trolls bringing them from other maps, also I didn't know that transfer lore, thanks
I love the lore of ark especially bro Mei is so badass
yh i love Rockwell using steroids (element) to grow stronger
If Helena doesn't swear I'll cry
so uhhhh why didnt mei yin get to keep her giga
idk
like i get that you cant trasfer it by down loading your character
but i liked her giga
Yeah
It most likely died due to Nerva's trap
oh
all of her tames were murdered
This is oddly weird but I agree
Except for a carno
Who died soon after carrying her to safety
Wasn't that her Raptor ?
Uhhhh maybe i thought it was a carno tho
Yeah you're right idk where i got a carno from👍
Exactly its so funny when it happens in the notes and with hlna we gotta have it
Any speculation on relese date?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Itll probably release between now and 2030 if i had to guess
Then why does Santiago in extinction in one of the earlier notes tell everyone to shut up because they have dinos or something
that's ARK 2
is ark releasing an netflix series???
We have no idea what kind of series it is
animated
I was thinking that whenever i typed that out
Because my mind always instantly jumps to how i can make a dad joke
You are late
ark drama romance betrayl
the hype for this animated series has only just now truly set in
how come just now?
idk, just really hit me like, "youve been playing this since launch and now its gettting a tv show, how often does that happen?"
I can't wait! ❤️
All we know is 2022
I think animated is being made to hold off ark 2
??


Not much to talk about in animated lol. Ark 2 is a wildfire and this chat Is rather quiet
i mean, noth much to speculate since theyre already going off of the game's lore
With some changes.
Idk why but the high-profile cast makes me worry they're just going to scrap the whole thing instead of spending that much money on it lol
They've already spent money on it.
They already stated they have a 14-(i think?) episodes in the works. And so if that's the case. How 'most' animation studios work with shows, is that they're under legal contracts that all parties involved have to meet their end of the deal with the production of the episodes/seasons.
This is why series will be renewed for a "new" season. Cause they're sighing another contract to ensure that the next season is official.
There really is 'no' backing out. Unless they want to go through some legal stuff.
For sure, just not sure if they're truly in the development phase or just "we have some names attached and a rough sketch of the concept." If it's the latter, stuff like that falls apart all the time. But probably just being paranoid because I'm so pumped for the show lol
Seeing how we also have saw some footage. And Dollie stated like 2 months ago that she saw the first episode. It's safe to assume that it's fine.
And big time actors like those are also on contracts.
Ah I didn't know that second part, that's awesome
Might've been older.
And before anyone asks. "No" just cause she saw the first episode. Doesn't mean they 'only' have the first episode ready.
A lot of animation studios (and even Ned with his machinima's) will usually work on the easiest scenes first out of the series. (after getting the storyboard all sorted, of course.)
This is to unsure that a majority of the show is already done, since the more easier parts to animate is usually a good portion of the series anyway.
And seeing how this is the first episode. Not much probably happens for it to "not" be one of the first things to be animated.
Though this could be different. Since this information is from "Disney" behind the scenes. 😅
Hopefully Dollie can read this, and clear up any confusion i have.
Lol they're so gonna delay the animated series as well
Show is gonna be full of bugs and glitches
she never said it was the first episode, just an episode
Sorry.
But still, point stands that it's official.
"My point stands supreme" -literally 1984 gif-
He did not say supreme
Well I don’t think anyone here is experienced in the animated series when it hasnt come out yet
Use #735196255483068497, keep channels on topic @west cedar
Sir, it was a joke
Good joke :)
Has anybody heard of when this thing will come out?
besides this year, nope
this is for ark the animated series, not just any animated series
We’re can I find the ark animated series
its not out yet
||ha made you read this||
i chose to read that
I expect an among us reference when they get to gen2. The map and its mechanics are too similar to not be compared
insanity
No it's perfectly reasonable
Will be the series released in summer on more like at the end of the year?
We dont know yet 🙂

Animated could of been a good opportunity to fix the story.
could have?
I guess he’s a time traveler
or more likely a pessimist
Maybe one day we’ll know
No no I have evidence. That's why I said could have
@fair trout take it away
???
😟
So is the animated series going to be on Netflix?
We dont know
anime
Netflix likes stuff like this
It's not an Anime! It's just a regular animations series.
And it doesn't even look like anime ngl
amazon picked up the critrole show, but hulu and hbo also have animated series, so it really could end up anywhere
.
.


Ok I concede, you win :)



who the hecc is this guy

rockwell i think
yea thats rockwell
https://ark.fandom.com/wiki/ARK:_The_Animated_Series for more concept art
Also where did you find that I need more because anime
…look down one message
Yes...
I hope theres a prologue
any other character would be more entertaining as a main character. I'm cynical the show will effectively be "helena and throwaway associates". What I mean is that no one else will matter. Throwaway side characters isnt good for a small cast
Or the characters will blindly follow her aside from nerve. Entirely possible
For only being "kinda canon" they will stay too far away 100% almost guaranteed
How do you know
they will not promise a 100% accurate to the game's lore for the sake of "being entertaining"
Which is justifiable. Since the notes aren't really built for a show/movie. They're in a format for reading.
just like most books
You can have changes and still stay very true to books for example but it also can go totally off the trail. It will depend on how much will have changed in the end and how true to the chars they stay or not.
Jamie you forgot to type the name of the book that was the example
or just be like Arcane and rewrite some characters to fit the narrative
Lord of the Rings is a good example for staying very true to the books with some changes made.
no
Also the first Season of GoT is very very close to the books and still very interessting to watch.
Got?
And with Arcane.. if I am not mistaken it shows more how the chars become/will become what they are now. For some it goes faster.. some are not even close to what they resemble now in the Game.
Game of Thrones
Oh
riot rewrites their characters and lore all the time
If it's done REALLY badly, it could hurt the companies reputation as well as the games
All books. You literally read it
And changing some nuacnces is one thing but making a total rewrite is mostly pretty meh.
i mean.... Gen 2 santiago feels like a re-write than a reasonably new chracter
Exactly my point
All the gen2 characters are bland
Read my name
richto?
No my nickname
rickie
me and Ares has this long looong rant about that so we dont need to repeat ourselves at this point
I already had a long talk with ares in dms
cute
I mostly take it to dms lately.
in LoL's lore Jace is supposed to bean ego-centric assholle have some serious beef with his former friend (and literal embodiment of OSHA) Viktor
I think this will slowly develope.
Season 1 feels like a big built up for a lot of conflicts.
Didn't know there was lore to the word lol (joke)
You even allready feel that Jace slowly gets more and more egoistic and more and more drifts away from Victor.
PVP ARK players be like

My feelings about pvp
And what genre will this show even be
maybe same like JP
Anyone who hasn't played ark watching it will get a serious bait and switch
or simply Animated series
shoujo sport musical
the gameplay has like nothing to do with the story, so def not that
I dont think you understood what I meant
like castlevania?
I need to finish castlevania
same
got like two seasons in before something distracted us
i'm procrastinating from procrastinating at this point
He is
lightyears ahead of us
josuke??????????????
Nope, bring it back to the channel topic. Take it to #general if you want to continue.
when will ark animated come out
@lyric ferry sometime this year
Thanks
Hopefully soon!
any news?
Everything we know is in the pins
🦫
I know this series is Self Funded but who are the animators? The style reminds me of the animated Mortal Kombat movies
Forgot the name, but the studio who did Avatar.
I remember a lot of people said it was similar to Korra so that explains why
Korra was Studio Mir and Ark is Lex and Otis. Lex and otis are a new studio and they've only made like one other show
Huh. Has almost the same artstyle then.
So I found the Lex and Otis page
Nothings been said about the platform the series will be on?
Lex + Otis is a premiere animation studio composed of top tier talent specializing in development art and storyboards for TV, film and video games. We are partnering with studios around the world to develop IPs for animation production… Our Clients
2D animation developing & production, Character developing and Marketing, work for hire animation production
Aot/ark fans when mappa is animating ark the animated series: LESS GOO
Thanks 
any news??
Since 2 days ago? No, other than dollie's post above.
didnt see your answer here sorry lol
Mappa animating = pog

ARK anime confirmed
My thoughts lol
now that is something
Mappa also does Jujutsu Kaisen
So the animated series is a anime love it?


Animated maewing
I want to see a dodo go uwu
haha
or helena getting killed by turrets while flying over volcano island
guys does anyone know the year when ark animated will go out
Probably this year at least for season 1
so next year knowing these kind of projects
also since wildcard have so many other things going on
Ark animated had better have the undying annoyance of trodons and dilophosuars
im curious if engrams are going to be in it
because we see structures that are certainly not engram based all the time
animated manas
Its been over a year and nothing has been mentioned nor announced, did they scrap the project or keeping it secret? again this could play out like how the Halo TV series did when it was in the talks and development for 9 years and is now finally releasing
Been mentioned at the extra life and we got a small music teaser, definately not scrapped but wildcard has seemingly forgotten to talk to the community about their newest projects, the animated series and Ark 2, while I continuously ponder the reasons for saying nothing instead of giving us updates on progress and more small teasers to keep interest high they have given us a release date of 2022 so we should get some sort of update whether it’s a delay or something else sometime this year
Ah ok
Most likely not
Reminds me of Netflix's handling of trailer releases
@fair trout
Do you know anything about what the writer for the show has done previously?
I know some who are part of it and who the Regisseur are. But I guess WC has the last say and her new addition Vin Diesel.
I think the Regisseur you can see on the movie database
Omg I'm gonna cry with nostalgia, the director worked on Extreme Ghostbusters and Godzilla: The animated series
If Jay Olivia understands and loves the source material, we're good to go
Depends a bit how much say he has in the story.
True
You cannot escape
Any release dates yet?
2022
Finally lol
hope there will be animated noglin one day 🙏
I doubt it, the series is about Helena when she was human (Island to Extinction)
i feel like later they are going make a sequel (about genesis) if the show succeeds that is.
The Gen Saga is about us leading to ARK 2
Helena doesn't exist in Gen
oh mb
yo mazda hows it going
can't wait for the animated series to come out, would love to work with them but my skills aren't even comparable. lol
it out yet?
No
How about... Now?
🇲🇽
and now? xD
Anyone know where we would be able to see it?
Not yet no
Ok
Isnt helena the robot thingy?
No, thats HLNA, a little bit of Helena
No reason to be sorry 
.
yo man, where can i post youtube vids?
i have some spicy stuff on ark 2 that not even the mods/Creators have seen
You can’t
😤 damn
and i even had special secret footage of it
Sure you did
So if this story is meant to be inclusive where is the disabled person?
did not survived the ARK
Would’ve died quite quickly
the overseers are not kind
it would be an interesting story tho.... a person who is born limbless but cloned in the ARK with limbs and experiencing their first experience having limbs for the first time in their life time
what is this, a fanfic?
Better than fake ark 2 leaks lol
A blind person couldn't comprehend that they could see
Ark: The Animated Series': Vin Diesel, Michelle Yeoh & Elliot Page Among Voice Cast Members In New Show – DeadlineArk: The Animated Series': Vin Diesel ...
deadline.com
I just woke up - what is the idea? 🙂
Dafuq?
Why? That's a terrible way to look at it. Disabled means chronically ill as well - a strong group of fighters. It seems it may only be trendy Hollywood inclusive which is not good.
@woeful violet look at the reply
I dunno if you read the lore of ARK but it's all about survival of the fittest
ARK is somewhat Grim Dark (but not Warhammer kind of Grim Dark where peace was never an option) and that's a good thing because the core theme of it is survival
Yes I have....but something like Autism falls under this umbrella too (disabled) and look at Elon Musk. Helena had a sudden character change/reveal to be inclusive. It just seems odd and more of a trendy inclusion than wanting to be legit inclusive.
Just a bit of a bug bear.
I am also agree on Helena suddenly have a partner even though we already have a good lesbian couple (Mei and Diana) in the lore
In Gen 1 there is a note about grave digging for preserved Engramic Matrix
I don't think there is gonna be a chance for a person with mental disability to be cloned for something as dangerous as a survival senario
(Before you asked, I have high functioning autism)
I disagree.
I just find it interesting that being inclusive only covers one thing.
if you are trying to cater for "inclusivity token" it hinders the story a lot
And made the show more forced and preachy
guys
idk if they have any sort of reliable source, but a website called justwatch says that ark the animated series will stream on hbo max
a rotten tomatoes article on top anticipated animated shows for 2022 also says it will be on hbo
ew hbo
ew
i dont beleve it... if it's indeed in HBO Max
well... 🏴☠️
i only support if it's accessible outside the US
Thing is. The genesis notes also stated how they have records for 'all' humans to have ever existed. With no known exceptions.
This would also theoretically include disabled people.
possibly but there is no confirmed case if they do
No confirmed case that they don't also. 🤷♂️
So you mean to tell me Chris Pratt is Canon in ark survival?
If they had disabled people, they wouldn’t be disabled as they implant a consciousness into a fabricated body
If it was mentally disabled
Then yea there would be an issue
rockwell had mental issues for sure, either before or acquired by dealing with helena's shenanigans
Probably dealing with her lol
Seeing how he kept getting worse and worse as time moved on
And especially after finding that element
Rockwell is basically schizophrenia
"Techtically"
And this also means that they have a database of all of Earths worst Humans.
Only the ones that got caught
Well, Hitler certainly did.

Thats weird to think about but also intresting
So cesar is techinally cannon in ark along with sun tzu?
Technically.
Yo wassup
Yo wassup

The first guy looks more like private pyle
Darn, you leaked now the varitiy of the character generator with only one possible "haircut".. bald.. XD
Ngl I saw a bootleg Ced in there
once you see it, you can't unsee it
So you are saying that this fictional universe that we know nothing about its 21st century has to be 100% the same as ours
You could do this with literally any piece of media that exists ever, wow x character is played by y and y could exist in this universe because nothing said it couldn’t be the case therefore it is the case
what if they just happen to look alike why would that be a plot hole
we are talking about two people potentially several generations apart it would be weirder if they didn’t have anyone who looked similar in that time
hell with that amount of time they could be related for all it matters
Yo wassup
Why not lol
Don’t have to be so aggressive about a joke theory
Wait if there is a databank of everyone ever with the whole egramatrix part of the brain, what if vin Diesel sees Santiago?
Deeper theory: What if Vin Diesel’s brain/body/soul/whatever COMBINED with Santiago XD
There is no Vin Diesel. There is only Vin Santiago.
Vintaigo
Everything that has been said about vin diesel being canon is bullshit.
They will add so many things that didn't happen just to make it watchable
Pretty much
He would be able to summon in a whole military by just uttering the words "family"
When is the series coming out again?

i mean why is that necessarily a bad thing, its pretty common to add new elements to the story when doing a show adaptation of a game or novel simply because there usually isn't enough material to make a whole multi season show out of, and even if there was if they did everything exactly the same it would be pretty boring since you already know how it all goes. While its pretty likely that the greater story will follow the games story ark (unfunny puns go brr), at least we can see where the plot takes these new characters whose fates aren't set in stone yet
also worst case scenario it would be pretty easy to simply just draw a line between the games and the series and call them two separate canons
basically like Arcane but it will sick to the game's lore in further seasons
my main concern for ARK is if some changes that might distort it to being a bad adaptation
personally i prefer Helena focused on her curiosity more than her "partner" that isn't present in her notes

