ark-animated-series

[steel sluice]

Mr Who.

[prisma oxide]

Honestly kind of interested to see what they do with Rockwell. The writers have to know that WE know what's up.

[bitter stump]

also i really liked the animation on the pteras at the start

[fervent stag]

They ruined Rockwell to an extreme.
They can't salvage this.
Though, I'm interested to see how horribly the car crashes.

[surreal pier]

I'm a little more scared of dimorphs and pts after watching lol

[steel sluice]

he got his brain sucked into a computer somewhere along the line so digital rockwell isn't the real rockwell and you shouldn't hold that against eiher one of them

[bitter stump]

iirc its the same studio that did legend of korra

ehhhh

[ancient quest]

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[bitter stump]

similar skin tone maybe

[surreal pier]

Yeah the eggs made me a little annoyed lol

[bitter stump]

helena isnt as fit as korra

[broken vine]

I'm pretty sure its a different studio.

[steel sluice]

a pt lays an argy egg which hatches a quetz?

[ancient quest]

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[fervent stag]

It is a different studio.
Just really good at copying the artsyle.

[steel sluice]

no

[ancient quest]

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[prisma oxide]

I disagree, I think they're trying to instill a different confusion in us from the original confusion we got when we learned of his history in game.

I'm not saying his character isn't generic atm, but they may have started this way to give all the other peeps their time. It's pretty clear Rockwell will get his time in part 2.

[steel sluice]

spoiler alert

||hi||

[fervent stag]

Sounds petty, but the tek rifle pissed me off. As it does ruin some of the world building.

[prisma oxide]

If we separate game Rockwell from show Rockwell he makes sense... it just sucks that game Rockwell is soooo good.

[bitter stump]

hmm. still i like the animation

[broken vine]

ehh not really. I haven't gotten to watch the animated series yet cause y'know Australia, but from the trailers and stuff it doesn't really look anything like legend of korra in terms of art style.

[ancient quest]

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[prisma oxide]

And show Rockwell is... generic... so far.

[steel sluice]

bob is rockwell

[fervent stag]

Ight, so lets go with this.
If they inverse Rockwell, that means he'll become good.
So, he'll start off evil, than good, than evil again to become a monster, than good during the last few moments of his life.
That sounds way to repetitive.

[steel sluice]

did anyone notice they were never ever in the same scene together?

[bitter stump]

rockwell didnt shoot bob

[steel sluice]

wat

[bitter stump]

one of nervas soldiers did

[steel sluice]

could have, mind control

[bitter stump]

rockwell isnt a fighter hes a scientist

[steel sluice]

ahh scientists, the best type of war-criming psychopaths

[fervent stag]

Not even that.
You're suppose to get Element from the guardians, as it helps survivors get used to Element and learn about it on their own pace.
Learn to harness it, and so when they finally reach Earth. They'll have all the knowledge to fight Corruption, which is Element.
By removing Element and replacing it with a gun, it makes it harder to learn about Element, and for survivors to actually use it to make new stuff. (they have to sacrifice a firearm to make something else. Not really worth it)
Also...the fuck are you gonna do if you run out of ammo for the rifle? If they don't supply Element, you have to just use the tek-rifle as a baseball bat now.

[bitter stump]

the armor looks fine i think

[steel sluice]

what do you think real flak armour is made from?

[bitter stump]

i didnt like nervas look at first but seeing him in the show i kinda like it now

[prisma oxide]

That's an option, and as you imply it is boring. There are more ways to write a character. I doubt he'll be black and white. That's why he was so good in the game. They're gonna try to accomplish that in a different way.

Gotta remember the game player is what sees the abomination he became, if the show doesn't get more seasons they still want to show that so they've got adjust things for it to fit. Unless they get the opportunity to soft reboot with Bob or something and run the players story.

[steel sluice]

. I doubt he'll be black and white
he's purple quite a lot of the time

[white urchin]

just finished the animated series, my honest thoughts are it did go a little too quickly but over all the show was not bad at all. It was quit good, I loved the characters like Thunder comes Charing and Mei ying. Nerva and Rockwell did amazing acting jobs, the story line is fine and part two looks to be even better then part 1. Over all for me I say the 3 year wait was well worth. The ending with Nerva and the Giga vs TCC was amazing.

[fervent stag]

So here's the issue.
Jeremey confirmed that a returning character will have their character arc reverse.
Nerva is still the same as he was in the note, so is Helena, and everyone else.
Expect Rockwell.
So that does mean they'll most likely make him good and bad multiple times, which makes it odd.

[prisma oxide]

Being given an opportunity for redemption and trying to to overcome his mental ugh... challenges but succumbing to them regardless might play out OK given proper development.

[white urchin]

thats what I liked about him in this

[prisma oxide]

Idk show nerva is exactly how I see him in the notes.

[fervent stag]

Not really.
He's more or less the same from the notes. And we never get to know how he actually acts outside of the notes.
Motives are different, sure. But same end goal.
Nothing of his character is reversed, unlike Rockwell

[prisma oxide]

Hes still abiding by the philosophies of his time, and we have yet to actually see him be evil aside from being complacent in all the slave stuff. However from his time, that's what was normal.

[white urchin]

hes more of a ruthless leader, and rockwell is more of a snake. I said yesterday how I did not like the changes they made to Rockwell but after watching the show I can see in the end they almost never changed him. Hes still trying to clime his way to the top. He hid the artifact as well as betrayed mei ying in the first rebellion against Nerva. Hes a snake like in the notes

[prisma oxide]

To an extent Nerva may be hard, but he knew exactly what the point of the arks were.

[bitter stump]

nerva didnt get much characterization in the notes

[white urchin]

so im glad

Also ||BOB IS ALIVE!!!!!||

at least on scorched earth

[prisma oxide]

I'm sure we'll get more of that side out if him in part 2 as well. I dont think he's intrinsically evil. He's just a product of his time.

[white urchin]

or at least I think that was bob

[prisma oxide]

I think he uses his men like fodder, but I think he's only really been hard on Rockwell.

[bitter stump]

he acts pretty much like id imagine most roman generals would

[prisma oxide]

Deservedly so. It's crazy how smart Nerva is. Can read Rockwell like a book.

[bitter stump]

he thinks he's superior to everyone, and its his right to conquer

[prisma oxide]

Nah, Nerva holds true to the notes. He's like the most spot on character IMO.

[modest urchin]

yall think the oasisaur could appear when we get to scorched?

[prisma oxide]

And there are huuuge chunks of Rockwell that hold to the notes. It's just severely progressed.

[modest urchin]

same with the faso

[prisma oxide]

I was honestly hoping Nerva would have a || carcha instead of a giga, and Mei Yin would go get a giga || to counter it. That would've blown my mind given how long the show has been in production.

Nah, I disagree Nerva is just as smart in the notes.

[steel sluice]

Thank you -- I'm sorry -- my Chinese--very bad will be --

who should do the honorable thing and sudoku an excuse for that

you're not a real ark player if you read the word implant and didn't think wrist before breast

[modest urchin]

idk im thinking theyre still saving more tek related mysteries for the next batch and beyond

[steel sluice]

S2 = laser beams in space with extra RGB

[modest urchin]

im hoping really bad for the side story of the grad students to get animated

[steel sluice]

bob bobsel

[modest urchin]

santiago is listed in the credits

i wonder how long until we get to see him

[steel sluice]

F&FX - Cars in space

[prisma oxide]

He's got line in episode 6, so I hope they'd credit him lol

[oak rain]

Before tek was added I thought they were gonna make “golden tools” and the main material was gonna be implants I don’t know what was going on in my eight year old head 💀

[steel sluice]

I'm fast and I'm furious and I'm all out of fast

[modest urchin]

-santiago swiftly makes his way to the mech cockpit
-his last words to helena and mei yin
"the titans can never stop family"

[steel sluice]

Gold members?

[prisma oxide]

🤢

[steel sluice]

Strange to think of that. I'm looking at my discord window right now and see a ton of gold members all over the side of my screen

[modest urchin]

and then he freaking dies a horrible death at the hands of the king titan

[prisma oxide]

They actually played music from survival of the fittest too.

[oak rain]

I want this to be canon to the animated series

[prisma oxide]

Well... sotf themes.

[steel sluice]

They stole music from Ori

[prisma oxide]

Nah

[modest urchin]

i can swear i sometimes hear genesis 2 music when rockwell is on screen

[prisma oxide]

You do, the whole trailer music is gen2 soundtrack

[oak rain]

Is it really stealing if it’s the same creator making the music?

[prisma oxide]

He does, that's why it wasn't stolen

[steel sluice]

but what if they photocopied him?

[steel sluice]

Probably depends a lot on contract law

[modest urchin]

no like gen 2 liet motifs like rockwells proliferation when he is first introduced

just very slowed down

my brain immediately when "gareth you bloody genius"

[prisma oxide]

I love how many of the conflicts in the show have in game conflict music. Broodmother arena, the first meatran camp Helena fell into... it's soo good.

[steel sluice]

or the c-o-k man because the server is allergic to things without hyphens

[modest urchin]

well tbf its far from over

[prisma oxide]

Yes, it is straight up gen2 stuff. We're in agreement. Coker for sure was mixing and matching.

[steel sluice]

get hit in the head less and it's not that confusing

sloppymouthbro

[modest urchin]

i just love how we get the musical undertones of what he will become so early on as a treat for those whove listened to the soundtrack

[prisma oxide]

Not sure what's confusing about Helena. She's less confusing in the show than the game notes.

[steel sluice]

I heard that Helena is actually the brother of Steve Irwin. Is that true?

[modest urchin]

i dont think steve irwin was aborigines

[steel sluice]

they're both australian and they both do animals

[wet citrus]

Well she’s a girl so she would be his sister lol

[steel sluice]

good?

[steel sluice]

carfeful now

[modest urchin]

no like steve wasnt a native aussie

[prisma oxide]

Right, same with the hall of history when she's playing with the pack artifact or at certain times discussing moments of earths history.

It's super subtle and simple, but cokers style works so well.

[modest urchin]

also i wasnt expecting the artifacts to be the way they were in the show

[prisma oxide]

There's a reason why John Williams is so well known, he does the same stuff.

[modest urchin]

i was like ok so its these small stones? got it

then the green one opened into the artifact of the pack and my mind got blown

[steel sluice]

atla?

that's a mouthful

[prisma oxide]

I kinda figured they were gonna have to do something like that. The notes don't talk about 10 artifacts iirc. Actually something the show seems to hold truer than the game does. It does confuse that the blue artifact looks like it'll be artifact of the strong... but that's not for monkey.

[wet citrus]

And ark the animated series is not?

[modest urchin]

like the indigenous people of australia

no?

do you just not know of their existance?

[modest urchin]

idr if the pack was a broodmother artifact

[prisma oxide]

But the red artifact looks like the cunning artifact maybe if they all hellraiser pop open like pack did.

[wet citrus]

No lol

[prisma oxide]

Pack isn't for brood either.

[steel sluice]

I said waay earlier that aborigines weren't black and the whole protest scene was pretty racist

[wet citrus]

You also don’t get tek riffle from brood lol

[modest urchin]

what

[wet citrus]

It’s not the same story ppl.

[prisma oxide]

And you don't get tek sword or tek bow on island, but here are.

[steel sluice]

ohhh, marsupials? Really?

[prisma oxide]

It still cool. I prefer that than, oh wow we beat monkey... I guess I'll use my... tek structures to fight nerva

[surreal pier]

Let's keep it appropriate.

[modest urchin]

i wonder what well get from the monkey

[prisma oxide]

Tek bows

[modest urchin]

oh yeah

[wet citrus]

Astrodelphus saddle

[modest urchin]

figures

[prisma oxide]

And nervas gonna kill kor, get his dragon artifact, kill dragon and get tek swords.

[modest urchin]

nerva will probably get all 3 at some point

[prisma oxide]

Don't know if I should put that in spoilers since it's just a guess.

[modest urchin]

its speculation i think were fine

[prisma oxide]

|| An educated guess ||

[wet citrus]

Ppl should expect spoilers in here this is where to talk about the show lol

[modest urchin]

yeah the channel tag has a spoiler warning

[prisma oxide]

Yeah, but that doesn't stop them from... complai mentioning it.

[modest urchin]

try ~~

on both sides

[prisma oxide]

Lol, stupid strike though and my bad memory making me look bad

[modest urchin]

its cool

[prisma oxide]

It's unfortunate that || they'll probably kill Kor quickly. I really wish they'd let some of these new characters breathe a bit before they murder them... Henry better be cool to deserve more runtime than John. ||

[small verge]

Is there only 6 episodes in S1?

[wet citrus]

Technically 7 but episode 1 and 2 is combined

[prisma oxide]

He's straight up wearing a fed suit, it's got the fed logo on it and everything in the promo art with him and his bulbdog. Made that my wallpaper.

[small verge]

Are the rest not out yet

[modest urchin]

6 is also a 2 length

[steel sluice]

for the record, this guy is not me

noooo

[modest urchin]

i thought he was john dahkeya for like 2 seconds and then thought thats dumb and should never think again

[surreal pier]

Keep the channel on topic of TAS. Move other content to #general.

[fresh flame]

I think he might be though.

[modest urchin]

his origin was completely different

[fresh flame]

So was helenas

[prisma oxide]

There'd a big part that I'm forgetting with Kor, and that's he's voiced by Russel Crowe... one of the producers... I take back everything. I didn't think he'd live overseer, but... I redact my previous thoughts. He definitely gonna get his butt whipped by nerva though. I still think Nerva will kill dragon.

[modest urchin]

no helena's while slightly different still lines up with the lore

this john is completely different from scorched john

[steel sluice]

doing david tenant dirty

"i'm a magnet now, harry!"

[fresh flame]

Not that much really

[steel sluice]

"eat my electric balls"

~Sigmoid Rockwell

[modest urchin]

scorched john was an apache outlaw from the wild west

this john was not

[steel sluice]

scorched john sounds like a hot member

did he do scorched earth?

[modest urchin]

kinda confusing having 2 native american's named john but it should be fine as both dont ever interact

ironicly ending up on scorched of all places

[steel sluice]

big john, little john, wide john, narrow jon

[modest urchin]

im sure theyll do it as raya/wali will probably appear and is pretty crucial to helena's survival in scorched

[steel sluice]

little john or that super racist fake-irish rex food?

[modest urchin]

and of course we gotta know her backstory

[steel sluice]

next you're going to say they fitted all the dlcs into 6 episodes

[modest urchin]

i thought it was the mantis's that did him in

[steel sluice]

hacker with a lava bucket

[modest urchin]

gotcha

i think he still fought mantis's at some point

i wanna say thyla

[steel sluice]

AAS

[fresh flame]

Thyla....

[modest urchin]

ive heard both but i like the thyla better

god the facility at the bottom of ab is going to be a total mindfuck to blind watchers

i really want to see the grad students animated

but i know they probably wont

oh theyre for sure going to do that

also cant wait for the nameless the be a geniune threat

gotta make up for the current lack of mei yin doing beast queen stuff

i love em to death

i make a note to always have at least 1 whenever doing an ab playthrough

bulby

idk if im ready to see rockwell mess up a shinehorn

poor thing

[errant geyser]

So I love the show but wc come on really. You need to get rid of ur computers everthing you make has the same problem from ase . Lol

[steel sluice]

Abb either gets don'e excellently or they totally fuck it up. Abb is not a cartoon experience. Pushing UE5 to its absolute limits is what makes or breaks aberration

Anything the animated series has to say about abb is totally second to abb 1.5

abb looks great in every dimension but having a resourced like UE5 and then not making abb mindblowing. Embarassing

[errant geyser]

Any1 else have sound problem on yhe show

[steel sluice]

no

i very much like the show. But i'm going to be touchy about aberration

because neon mushrooms i guess

time travel lore
john connor

[errant geyser]

1 big problem to me was they messed up yhe artifacts but besides that I give it a 8 out of 10

[steel sluice]

did they show an otter carrying 5 artifacts at once?

[errant geyser]

No but they only made 3 one 4 each ob

[steel sluice]

what does simultaneously even mean in a place of respawns?

[errant geyser]

@rich bane no shit

[steel sluice]

On that note, are all the ark ships surrounding earth?

[drifting barn]

Mei yin was on abb while Helena was on scorched at the same time

[steel sluice]

they're not spread around the solar system or whatever, not far enough away for serious communication problems

[errant geyser]

@rich bane then when if they don't need 10 why is there 10 ?

[drifting barn]

Arks surround the earth

[steel sluice]

get beamed up after a boss fight and held in cold storage for lots of years but no one tells you the time

[drifting barn]

Animated series is supposed to be a different adaptation, like mei yin and Helena being lovers even tho that never happened

[steel sluice]

the ultimate survivor

be nice or pay the price

[modest urchin]

i dont think it was ever explicitly stated but the way hlna talked about her added a little bit of possible tension

[steel sluice]

and Gen 1 was definitely a system onboard the Gen2 starship? Or was it ever implied there were many other similar ships

[modest urchin]

but in the end its not going to be too important due to an eventual character weve yet to me

[drifting barn]

There’s only 1 genesis ship, gen part 1 takes place on the ship in a simulation

[steel sluice]

The only love arc i ever cared about was between Bob and his Dodo

[velvet temple]

maybe, if bob can also be on scorched so will John from the island but since he won't have the memories from the island or of Meeka since its just the copy that was in the Ark database, his entire personality will be different since he never found a child to look after and more Like John Dekaya, or maybe they will just go with it being a different John, if he did make it in, which I would assume all characters who wrote notes would but we don't know for certain yet

[modest urchin]

im certain itll just be a different character

because john dahkeya is from years before the story on the island begins

[velvet temple]

I think it will actually be John marston from Red Dead

[opaque maple]

Just finished the series. Now I'll have to feel empty inside until part 2

[modest tusk]

fr

[feral lake]

Yea its watchable, but i got more cringe-shivers than good ones. Would say ep 6 carried alot.

[errant lagoon]

was anyone else just excited when it just droped

almost out of nowhere (due to paramount+)

[sullen oasis]

la serie esta disponible en mexico?

[prisma oxide]

I know a lot of people are offended by the animation quality, or the the way the creatures are drawn in the show. I personally don't mind as the art has great intent, but || when that Sabertooth is walking up to Helena in episode 2, I swear that thundercat lookin mf*r was gonna stand up and gogo gadget b**ch slap her. It honestly made me think of the terran landorus meme from pokemon for a second.||

[wide plinth]

hi Guys how can i watch the sereis

[timid flint]

the animation quality is definitely not up there but honestly i think it has its own appeal

[timid flint]

Paramount+

[brave patio]

[feral lake]

And then the animationquality got really good on mei yins flashbacks as a kid

[crisp tangle]

The animation reminds me of the Land before time series I liked as a kid

[rapid lichen]

The episodes are out ?

[half stone]

is ||bob actually dead or do we see a clone of him in a later episode? i'm not ready to say goodbye to him yet!!! @oak brook @sharp kernel please give me some closure, i don't want to believe that my beloved is gone :((( ||

s1e1 spoiler^

[crisp tangle]

Okay, I've seen the whole show now. It's great!

[eager creek]

He comes back in scorched earth

[reef iris]

My guess is Bob will most likely be a running joke whereas he dies in the first episode of every map by some form of noob fashion

[prisma oxide]

I don't think his reappearances are meant to be a joke. They probably serve as a direct inspiration for choosing him after Helena creates the respawn protocol when she ascends. Sure, he's not the first to respawn, but he keeps trying again.

[shell scarab]

He will respawn in his bed at his base 😁

[oak rain]

||I imagine bob being on aberration forgetting to bring a light pet or being unaware of them and just being mauled to death by nameless||

[sullen star]

ark survival evolved

[strange rover]

OMG, Bob = Kenny! 😄 🤣 😄

Youre reading too much into it, lol. Think it through. In the Roman empire, the people in power were??? White. In Victorian England, people in power were? White. And men to boot. Its less a social commentary of the modern 2024 and more a factual depiction of the times that Nerva and Rockwell were pulled from. 😉

I mean... its no different in the game. Nerva and Rockwell were baddies and Helena and Meiyin were not. Its not like they changed these things to make a social commentary. 😄

Stop being stuck in the 1950s/1960s. 😉

[still scroll]

Is the animated series cannon to the game? I dont understand anything, Aint Helena and Rockwell friends on the island?

[strange rover]

Its not a 1:1 story adaptation, no. Its what is called a "derivative work" - based upon the world and characters, but not telling the story you know.

[still scroll]

Yeah but they were friends

[still scroll]

So its not cannon to the game?

[strange rover]

No.

[still scroll]

😭

[strange rover]

Lemme guess... you live in the Southern USA, right? 😄

[still scroll]

Yeah but ingame they are friends according to the notes

[strange rover]

Strange. Your clear prejudice mirrors southern values.

[strange rover]

Again, a reiteration... it is NOT a 1:1 clone of the story in the game, it is a derivative work. Same world, same characters, different story.

[still scroll]

Okay

Thats sad

[strange rover]

And you can apparently kill the Broodmother with a spear and her own offspring, lololol.

Why is it sad?

Take it for what it is, rather than bemoaning what it isn't, according to your personal expectation. Its an Ark animated story. Something we didn't have previously, but now do. We should be thankful and happy to have something about our beloved game to watch in TV form, regardless of whether or not it conforms to our expectations for what it SHOULD (or should not) be.

I get it. Its no different than SW Episode 1, where the Trade Federation were clearly depicted to be Chinese. Though, I believe that was more intentional than not... still, its something in this show that isn't, in my opinion, a social commentary, and more a depiction of the times people came from.

Thats what I was saying.

The white men, the evil ones, came from the past, where that was the norm.

I do see what you are saying, to a degree, I do, I just dont agree with continually pointing it out as if it were an 'attack' by the show writers and such, as if it were meant to be their way of saying white men are all evil.

Yes, exactly, and that is precisely what they show Nerva's camp doing.

I feel like we're on the same side of the argument, but coming at it from different verbage...

Of course.

Bob. Bob is the outlier.

Fact is, yeah, on the bad side, its white men, depicted as evil, and on the good side, its Aborginal Australian, Chinese, Lakota Native American, and later when Santiago joins us, it will be Hispanic (not sure of Santi's country of origin off the top of my head).

Tell that to a Hispanic.

😄

Spain though, only makes up what?!? 1/100th of the worlds hispanic population? Maybe 1/1000th?

Maybe more. We have no clue Santi is from Spain though.

[obsidian parrot]

Wonderful back story on Helena. I'm about halfway through episode 2.

[red sparrow]

Flashbacks did take up a bigger chunk of time then i liked but im guessing since weve seen at least most of their backgrounds now itll be less prevelant in the next season

[red sparrow]

Mei yin lived on earth wayyy before the opium wars
Mei yins whole background was

||being a revolutionary against the Han dynasty im pretty sure||

[feral lake]

Taking a good story we like and making it bad is sad wdym

[strange rover]

I mean... the notion of "bad" is utterly a matter of personal taste. Judging by everyone's input here, you're clearly in the minority on your view of its quality. 😉

[modest urchin]

santiago is brazilian iirc

i think hes said to be from sao paulo

[crisp tangle]

There are none other than Bob, I've finished the show now. It was still good though, but yeah, this stood out to me as well

Still liked the characters portrayed though, for the most part. They weren't badly written, and even delivered quite a bit of emotion

I don't want to sound like I dislike the minorities portrayed either, and having people from everywhere and from different time periods suits the Ark well

but the "white man bad" trope present in many shows nowadays still feels like its there

[timid flint]

i wanna see more Bob

[grizzled turret]

Bob is love, bob is life

[tall gale]

JUSTICE FOR BOB

[timid flint]

i think we are getting more Bob though

with Bobs Tall Tales

[strange rover]

Bob respawns... otherwise the Tall Tales DLC would be false advertising, due to the fact, we get Bob Notes on all four Story maps.

[strange rover]

Thanks!

Sao Paulo is a great city. Confusing streets for someone from Canada, lol, but I really enjoyed the extremely small slice of it that I got to walk around and experience. 🙂

[fresh flame]

There are 6 story maps though

[modest urchin]

We don’t know if they plan on doing genesis for the show

[strange rover]

Noone in their right mind counts Gen1 and Gen2 as story maps.

The story ends when the Earth is saved. Period. What follows was nothing more than a cash grab.

[lime harness]

In the game lore, Helena isn't even present on Genesis

[fervent stag]

Most people do.

Halo 5 was dogshit, yet it's still somewhat important for any future titles.
When ASA is done, and they move onto ARK-2. The Genesis storyline can't be ignored.

[strange rover]

Sure, let me just hand you my credit card and bank account information at the same time, while Im at it. 🙄

[strange rover]

Possibly. But most people are sheep that simply follow the herd, so... there's that.

[fervent stag]

Sure, sure.
But a herd only follows a decent herder. And disobeys bad ones.
Genesis, just like Halo 5. Isn't completely dogshit.
Conceptually it was good lore wise, but it fell flat too often for it to gain its full potential.

While I doubt they will, I really would enjoy if they fixed up the issues with Genesis's story. (besides Santiago. Cause we all know they wont allow that dude to fucking rest and end on a good character arc.)

If I recall right, Genesis-1 didn't create any writers.
If that's correct. That means Gen-1 was probably scrambling to get a story out by people that don't know how to properly write a story.
Which, makes sense why it's one of the dullest story bits in all six maps.

[strange rover]

Perhaps, and this is a LONG SHOT, but perhaps Gen-1 will come across more favorably, if and when, they make the Arat Prime map.

As it stands, Gen1 is TOO disconnected from the narrative of the four story maps to make any coherent sense.

I see them (genesis maps) less as a part of the story of Ark and more of a prequel to Ark 2, that for some strange reason, throws the player from the story maps that preceded it, and the HLNA ai, into a story where they have no connection from Extinction to Genesis.

[fervent stag]

Correct.
Think besides the off writing of a bunch of people trying to continue a story that was from another writer. The two storylines feel too disconnected.
I like the idea that it's up to the players headcanon if the survivor from Genesis is the same survivor from The-Island, or a new one. But either way, there needs to be 'some' form of connection.

[strange rover]

I think the fact that Rockwell survived the crashing Aberration Ark and made his way to Arat Prime, to beam his consciousness to the Genesis Simulation is correlation enough that it is in fact the player from the story maps.

[fervent stag]

Well, that's 100% what they are.
Genesis is more of a branch between ARK-1 and ARK-2, less than a true ending for ARK-1.
If handled right though, they could make the writing more towards having Extinction be the end of a saga. But no the end of the grander ARK-1 storyline, if they connect the two sagas.

[strange rover]

But again, there is no real bridge there, so its disconnected.

[fervent stag]

The new writer did confirm it's up to the player.
Nothing else to confirm

[strange rover]

Time will tell friend, time will tell. Lets hope Arat Prime is in fact the expansion map they will be making.

[fervent stag]

To segway this back to TAS.
Odd that Peter Fries seems to have no writing connection to the show. (unless I missed him in the credits)

[strange rover]

Id rather that than some throwaway Ark we never heard of or saw before, as cool as it would be to have an actual expansion map within the original 4 stories... I think its more important to bridge the 4 to Gen-1.

[strange rover]

Maybe thats for the better?

By saying that, I mean, it allowed the show, possibly, to go in a different direction than the lore notes in the game.

[fervent stag]

I don't know.
I want to see more of Peter writing for ARK before I make a full judgement of his skills. Cause Marc did confirm that not every idea was by him, and some of the story bits where added by higher ups.

If I recall right, Marc was going to kill off Rockwell on Scorched.
But someone else had an idea for him to be the antagonist of Aberration, and so they kept him alive.

[fervent stag]

To me, that's the biggest flaw of TAS.

[strange rover]

And in the end, that proved to be a VERY wise decision.

Espcially with Tennant voicing him.

🙂

[fervent stag]

I agree. But the idea of someone else changing the story other than the person they paid to do so, is why I want to see more of Peters work.

Could've been Peter that had the idiotic idea to bring back Santiago, or could've been someone else like Jeremy.

[fervent stag]

I'm not of course a large writer, as I'm relatively new to it. But I could imagine writing something, putting all my blood, sweat, and love into a product. Establishing the world and the rules.
Only for later on, when I left and got done with that story. The company wanted to adapt 'my' story I spent so much time establishing, and change almost every piece of it and all the world building.
I personally would be disheartened.

Canon or non-canon. This is what people 'will' watch to get their story bits for ARK instead of the notes or unofficial sources.
People not knowing this show isn't canon will automatically think everything in here is canon.
Rockwell is an evil ass with no redeeming qualities.
You get a tek-weapon instead of Element from killing the bosses.
Obelisks aren't canonically tied to bosses, and you just find a random door in a cave for them.
And ||Mei-Yin x Helena is a thing instead of Diana x Mei-Yin.||

[fresh flame]

Except everyone does.

[fresh flame]

Lol, sure

[crisp tangle]

I mean, they are just heavily disconnected from the main story. I like to see it as two different stories from the same world, and that my character from the Island - Extinction is not the same guy as the one on the ship

But everyone has different views and there really is no correct answer, again, it's so disconnected

[fervent stag]

Issue is, is Rockwell.
Him being in the Genesis maps makes Aberration connected to him, and the Genesis lore. As without Aberration, there can't be a Rockwell Prime.
This connection now causes just enough of a connection between these two sagas that without further explanations. Makes them feel off.

[slow cape]

this show is... a show

[modest urchin]

i like to imagine its the same person just not the same guy

if that makes any sense

like its the same person just made from 2 different systems

[strong bolt]

Probably will never have an answer to why this was changed, but one of the changes I've not seen anyone talking about has been Mei Yin's background:

In the original lore, she died fighting against the Yellow Turbans.
In the show, she is a Yellow Turban.

Just thought that was a very curious change, and hadn't seen anyone else comment on it so I was wondering what others may think.

[modest urchin]

i think its to make each character a sort of underdog that you'd root for and like to see winning

which does kinda take out the whole random aspect of the characters but i dont ultimately mind the change

[strong bolt]

I've never really seen the Yellow Turbans portrayed as 'good guys,' either, though. Could be my Koei bias, though 🤭

I didn't mind it myself, either. Just thought it was a very curious detail.

[strange rover]

Fair points friend, fair points. Thanks for sharing your perspective. 🙂

[frosty tulip]

does anyone know how i can watch the series in the uk rn

[strong bolt]

Quick Google search says the UK channel is Paramount+, same as for the US, but that the air date is, apparently, 19 April (TIL). Not sure that's fully accurate info, but there ya go.

[frosty tulip]

yes im aware but i wanna watch it now

[strong bolt]

VPN

[frosty tulip]

vpn does not work i tried

[strange rover]

Then April 19th it is chum.

[slate bolt]

No wayyyyy it’s on paramount plus

Gonna watch it all right now 😙

[swift spire]

I’ve finished watching it in one sitting, I’d say it was good but lacking content and there was too much backstory over lore in my opinion

[strange rover]

6 episodes out of 14 though... there is still the back half of season 1 to go, and season 2 is already completed as well, as far as my understanding goes. Loads of episodes to watch, so perhaps there will be less need for backstory later.

[swift spire]

Oh ok, and yeah hopefully

[shell stone]

Why the fuck is this show so dark

Also it's moving way to fast

[autumn marlin]

i mean the whole concept of ark is really brutal

definitely moves rlly quick tho

[shell stone]

But there isn't gore

[autumn marlin]

i think the gore is more to show how horrible it really is these people are all just test subjects put on an island together, i thought it was fitting 🤷‍♂️

[strange rover]

Agreed.

[fair trout]

Ther is no gore in the game cause of Age restriction.. broader publicum able to buy it without gore

[strange rover]

I think it isnt gory enough, tbh.

[autumn marlin]

||i was watching with my dad and as soon as bob got shot we were in absolute awe||

[shell stone]

They adapted a T game into a MA show

[cyan scaffold]

Nerva and Rockwell are very brutal

Poor Jimmy

[fervent stag]

You say that like most parents look at age ratings.
Remember the whole GTA 5 accident?

[fair trout]

Parents don't but often a reason companies still don't add gore (at least here)

[fervent stag]

You're in Germany, correct?

[cyan scaffold]

Ark animated serie is tv-14

Its a moderate violence

[west cedar]

Do we know when more episodes will drop ?

[cyan scaffold]

19th april

[fair trout]

Yes. They even cut out certain scenes in movies here if they are to bloody/gory

[fervent stag]

Already out

[cyan scaffold]

I hate Rockwell and you ?

[fervent stag]

Right, but different nations have different standards.
Wildcard is US, and most dev's in the US don't care for gore.

DOOM Eternal is Rated-T if I recall.

[fervent stag]

"Look at how the massacred my boy..."

[strange rover]

I think the OP was asking when the other 8 episodes for season one will drop.

@west cedar I personally havent heard one way or the other when the back half of the season will be out.

[cyan scaffold]

I hope the King titan will be in the serie.
The final boss, the King of the shadow

[drifting barn]

I hate how they have Rockwell automatically as a bad guy

[fervent stag]

Depends if the show lasts that long.

[fervent stag]

Yep.
Ruined his already good character arc.

[fair trout]

I think for now they only cover the Island if I am not mistaken

[cyan scaffold]

Yes, Rockwell is screepy, perver, scrazy and sadist

[fervent stag]

Scorched was teased at the end of Ep6

[drifting barn]

Nope, abb is there cause Santiago is in his tek suit

With is bulb dog too

[cyan scaffold]

Bob is alive. I love bob ! ❤️

[fervent stag]

And Aberration was also teased.
So that probably means Season 2 will be mostly Scorched/Aberration

[fair trout]

They changes so much you don't know when he even will appear XD

[fervent stag]

His appearance in the teaser was in Aberration, with a bulbdog

[cyan scaffold]

I can't wait for the transformation of Rockwell !

[drifting barn]

Idk how they are going to explain having Rockwell in the aberration camp cause he was friends with Helena

[fervent stag]

If they don't decide to fuck that up as well. 🫠

[sullen star]

I hope part 2 will improve him

[drifting barn]

Maybe Rockwell will turn good instead of his pervy self rn

[fair trout]

Rockwell will fall in love with Diana instead and get into the camp that way ;P

[sullen star]

or maybe rockwell will trick helena

[fervent stag]

Here's the thing.
There's no way they could improve him while making him interesting.
Jeremy confirmed they're reversing one of the character arcs of a character. So if that's Rockwell, that means he'll become good later on.
But.....how is that going to work with him becoming a monster?
So, he goes from bad, to good, to bad again? That's pretty fucking awful.

[drifting barn]

Bro Rockwell is so cold in this show

[sullen star]

yeah

[fair trout]

Might be a totally different char and not Rockwell so

[drifting barn]

Just had a T. rex kill one of Helena’s friends

[fervent stag]

Which than he'll stay comically evil throughout the whole show. And now, he's a bland as fuck villain.

[sullen star]

if rockwell tricks helena into becoming good maybe he could be slightly better

[fair trout]

Would be sad but might be a thing, sadly

[sullen star]

helena isnt the brightest

[fervent stag]

Helena is a loth more smarter in the show than in the notes.
Would be out of character for her to just forgive Rockwell, after literally 'NO ONE' on The Island likes him.

[drifting barn]

Episode 1 be having a lot of flashbacks

[fervent stag]

Helena hates him cause he killed her friend she just made.
The redwood tribe hates him cause he betrayed them, and possibly caused hundreds of deaths.
And Nerva hates him cause he's a spineless coward, and only keeps him alive due to how useful he is.

[drifting barn]

I guess the way she died is by overdose

[fervent stag]

It'd be so fucking odd if everyone just forgave him, for the sake of the story.

[fervent stag]

Show for some reason cut it out. But yeah, the trailer showed a shit ton of opened pills.
She probably OD on her anxiety drugs, wasn't thinking straight.

[drifting barn]

The rating is tv 14 so that’s probably why

Even tho it shows a lot of violence for a tv-14 show

[fervent stag]

Yeah, so it kind of makes no sense.

Cause a shit ton of violence, but can't show someone overdosing.

[drifting barn]

An age we live in

[sullen star]

but dude

the giga entrance was cool af

missed opportunity though

[steel widget]

idk guys, this guy is named Giganotosaurus, i think he might be a bit biased /s

[sullen star]

explosion should have made it go into rage mode

[sullen star]

I just named myself that like a second ago

[drifting barn]

Nerva seems pretty fine to Helena

[fervent stag]

Cool, but ruined Mei-Yin.

[sullen star]

yeah

[fervent stag]

She's suppose to be the 'Beast Queen'
She was the only one at her time to tame a Giga, as emphasized her title.
Not only that, but she 1v1'd the fucker.

So far, she only has one tame that died.

[drifting barn]

Wish they stuck to the notes more, also it made no sense for Helena to be lovers with mei yin

[sullen star]

yeah

tbh though, I still really enjoyed the show

[fervent stag]

I was liking Helena until that.

[drifting barn]

Out of character for her, she was devastated about victorias death, then she dated some1 else

[sullen star]

yeah and the fact she literally killed herself like 2 weeks ago

or whatever the time gap was

[drifting barn]

2000 years basically lol

[fervent stag]

It's been only days to weeks, and at most a month or two since she woke up on The Island.
That is not at all enough time to move on from your spouse dying, and killing yourself due to that.
Someone that is willing to kill themselves due to a dead spouse would NOT be in the mental state to start dating again until years later.

[sullen star]

for her I meant

[fervent stag]

In her perspective though, it's been weeks.

[sullen star]

should have hooked up with bob fr

[drifting barn]

Bruh why did she casually just poison nerva, he was chill

[drifting barn]

Ong

[fervent stag]

Honestly though, he was a bit chill in the beginning.

Unhinged, but a lot more chill and understandable compared to harrasmentwell.

[drifting barn]

They didn’t have to kill Bob in the first 10 minutes

[sullen star]

ginger death should have been replaced with bob

nobody gave a fuck about the ginger

[fervent stag]

Think it would've been more impactful if he died from the rex, instead of the random bozo kid no one knew

[drifting barn]

We barely knew about the ginger

[sullen star]

what would you guys rate the show

[drifting barn]

Could’ve been cool to see Bob die to a Rex at the end as a heroic sacrifice

[drifting barn]

8/10

[sullen star]

I rate it 8-8.5/10, even if it wasn't perfect, it was SUPER fun.

the natives were also so badass

[fervent stag]

I have a earlier text wall of a way I think they could've preserved Rockwell's manipulative personality, without changing much of TAS's story.
If you guys want me to tag the message.

[fervent stag]

6.8/10

[sullen star]

a bit harsh, but I can see why

[drifting barn]

The implants are supposed to make people understand each other, but this random blonde is speaking in Minecraft enchantment table

[sullen star]

they did add a lot of things that dragged the show down

[fervent stag]

Not harsh at all.
Too much changes that had no reason to change, and weaken the story.

If they pulled a Rockwell with every other character, it'd be no better then the Halo show.

[sullen star]

rockwell still has a chance to be something

[drifting barn]

It’s an adaptation

[fervent stag]

Something probably not good.

[drifting barn]

Maybe Jeremy wanted Rockwell to be fully evil with this

[sullen star]

this is the one change I cant stand

[candid onyx]

wen pt 2?

[sullen star]

everything else is just fine

[drifting barn]

Est of 5-6 months

[fervent stag]

A adaptation should be close to the original source.
Not basically rewriting the entire thing

[candid onyx]

thats not that bad tbh

[drifting barn]

Look at avatar

[fervent stag]

Yeah, and from what I've heard. Not a lot of people like it.

[candid onyx]

i enjoyed it, but i didnt like what they did with rockwell

[fervent stag]

The Last of Us show is a perfect example of an adaptation should be.
Takes the story of the original product to expand it into a new medium, and changes what needs to be changed for it to translate well. But keeping everything else as close to the original.
While TLOU show changed a few stuff, everything felt like TLOU.
This doesn't really feel like ARK outside of the characters.

[drifting barn]

Bruh how did Helena almost die to a spear in the shoulder

[candid onyx]

cause she weak

[sullen star]

spears hurt????

[drifting barn]

Nerva pulled a thorkell the tall and sniped her with 1

[fervent stag]

For anyone interested. This is my personal recreation of how they could've handled Rockwell in TAS to keep his original personality, while keeping the same Animated Series story.

[sullen star]

nerva is such a badass

[candid onyx]

ye

[sullen star]

ya I agree with this

[worthy cloak]

Probably hit sum vital or almost threw her into shock maybe

[candid onyx]

literally all then needed to do was keep rockwell how he is in lore

how hard is that?

[sullen star]

in my opinion

episode 1 was the worst

[drifting barn]

2 creators of ark and a random director directed this

[sullen star]

helena flashbacks were genuinely so boring, thats what brought down episode one for me

and all the other issues with it

[fervent stag]

Too many flashbacks in the show

[sullen star]

im guessing part 2 will have a lot less

[drifting barn]

Wait Helena is black in this

[candid onyx]

yeah, but that doesnt mean they needed to change him

[fervent stag]

Hopefully

[drifting barn]

Or of African decent

[sullen star]

one character im fine with having flashbacks

is nerva

[fervent stag]

She's from native Australian decent.

[drifting barn]

Not sure why she was at a African protest

[candid onyx]

yeah, nerva was the best character by a lot

[fervent stag]

She wasn't.
It's a protest for native Australians.

[thorny valley]

The cynic in me is of the opinion that the changes are to avoid royalties and/or creative credits since the guy who wrote the lore and dossiers is no longer with the company.

[sullen star]

ik the perfect way to fix this show

[fervent stag]

It's a real issue going on today, if I recall.
Native Australians are gaining less rights, as colonizers Australians are gaining more. (that's from what I've gathered)

[sullen star]

add oil jug bug

wait

are we gonna get extinction?

[fervent stag]

If we get a season 3-4, possibly.
But that's if the shit marketing gave them enough money to continue

[candid onyx]

doesnt wild card own the royalties and stuff

[drifting barn]

Yeah she’s of African decent since native Australians part African

[sullen star]

they better advertise the fuck out of part 2

but tbh it would not be as effective

[drifting barn]

Maybe paramount will give wildcard free advertisement for how well the show does

[thorny valley]

They do, but there's likely some credits suff to the writer.

[sullen star]

episode one is such a turn off

[drifting barn]

Mei yin such a baddie in this show

[sullen star]

I showed it to so many of my friends, and now they dont want to watch the rest of the show

its horrible for a first episode to be boring

[drifting barn]

The first episode is a turn off

Bruh they scaled down arthropleuras too

[sullen star]

fine with that tbh, but they should have done what they did for spider

make big and small ones

[drifting barn]

Bruh they’re eating an otter

[fervent stag]

Well, that was kind of funny to me.

Mostly of imagining Otterly's reaction.

[drifting barn]

Why am I starting to like Helena with long hair

But why do they have so many flashbacks in this show

[fervent stag]

[sullen star]

pretty obvious why, just not why they made so many

I guess they really wanted to get the point across

[drifting barn]

And they made the boss arenas down in caves

[fervent stag]

Basically all of the flashbacks could've been told as a heart to heart moment for characters to grow relationships with each other due to sharing past trauma's.

[drifting barn]

I actually like that for the broodmother

[sullen star]

mei yin flashbacks were fun

and the native dude's

[drifting barn]

Comes thunder rolling?

[sullen star]

yes

[fervent stag]

Nah, they where useless.
We saw everything of his family dying, and yet, he then explains this in Episode 6.
They could've just waited until then.

[sullen star]

I guess

[drifting barn]

Bruh how can the fight broodmother so early

[sullen star]

I enjoyed it still

[drifting barn]

And they made the brood mothers abdomen so large lol

[sullen star]

they pumped melee and cheated by summoning high level spiders

cheaters are fucking LOSERS

[sharp ferry]

Is there any way to watch without paramount plus

[sullen star]

youtube

apple tv I think

[sharp ferry]

But I'm in New Zealand

[sullen star]

april 19th or VPN buddy

[drifting barn]

They made the brood mothers abdomen conjoined with its body 😭

[bronze kayak]

@sharp ferry there is

[drifting barn]

Bruh they have to add that glaive mei yin has to ark or ark 2

[lavish pivot]

ermmm its most likely a guandao🤓

[drifting barn]

30 minutes until I’m at your house

[timber tundra]

[slate bolt]

The dodo is so cute omg

Oops biggest spoiler

[prisma oxide]

I've now watched the show 3x... People keep complaining about how different it is from the game, but it is a perfect embodiment of the games intent. It's exactly what it needs to be given its resources. We don't know enough about Rockwell to fully judge him (he seems to be the biggest gripe), but peeps keep trying to separate the game and show because of yada yada like him, but seeing the show very much enhances the game experience.

Was thinking about the extinction ascension montage, and seeing this more elaborated Helena really changes how valuable she was, and her right place as the main survivor. All the characters fit exactly as they need. It's actually amazing that so far, none of these characters are dumb, or just wrong in their endeavors and what they do. Seriously hoping this show will pick up amongst non game players. It can hold its own.

[slate bolt]

Haha yeah me to I’m really enjoying it so far

[crude fog]

I'm looking forward to it, trying to convince myself to get paramount+ lol

The literal only thing I'm iffy on is that they decided to give Helena a tragic backstory, which I don't think was really necessary, but we'll see

[slate bolt]

The subscription isn’t that expensive and I think you can get a week free trial ? Or month.

[upbeat fog]

so can people be born on the ark?

[drifting barn]

Yeah

[upbeat fog]

or only be taken there

[drifting barn]

Example is on scorched earth Rockwell helped the leaders wife give birth on scorched earth

[upbeat fog]

is the show or game lore better?

[drifting barn]

Game definitely

[upbeat fog]

also is that from the show or game

[drifting barn]

Game

[upbeat fog]

i’ve always wanted to play through the game

but i could never find an unofficial server with base stats

[quiet pier]

So is the series not possible to watch in the UK yet then

[prisma oxide]

It's part of the hero's journey, but also kinda necessary to help lead her to doing what she did, and also support why she needs to redeem herself.

I was kinda meh about it until I watched all the first part.

The show can definitely support the game lore in a great way. Peeps are just jaded that it's not the story they know.

The characters are the same though. The stakes are the same.

[drifting barn]

I don’t understand why they cut off Rockwell’s hand

[prisma oxide]

Nerva called him out on not having any scars. Pointing the finger with no repercussions. Same with Helena, but shes trying to fix that while rockwell hides. So he got punished for it.

[drifting barn]

An axe got thrown at him by thunder

Even tho in aberration he still had all of his hands

[prisma oxide]

I would imagine theyre goona use it as a catalyst for element experiments. ||It was glowing in the teaser. ||

[drifting barn]

Sounds interesting

Still don’t understand the mei yin and Helena love dynamic however

[prisma oxide]

What is there to understand?

[drifting barn]

Mei yin got with Diana during abb

[prisma oxide]

She still can

[trim locust]

The game lore and the animated lore are two separate entities!

[prisma oxide]

If you choose for them to be that way. The characters still fit both.

The events are different, but they still work together.

Even Rockwell

[trim locust]

It’s like Disney using Spider-Man the character but not Tobey and Andrew Spider-Man

[prisma oxide]

Nah, they're the same characters

[trim locust]

Ah yes I love it in note 13 of the island Rockwell gets his hand chopped off by John from the SE notes 🤣

[prisma oxide]

Well, as I said, the events are different. But the characters are still exactly as they are in the notes.

[trim locust]

Yeah no you aren’t wrong there

Even though Rockwell in the notes isn’t as much of a misogynist 🤣🤣🤣

[prisma oxide]

And the intent/direction of the story is exactly the same.

[crude fog]

I mean... she has a hero's journey in the original game without tragedy. I just feel it kind of gets in the way inherently of the infectious joy of discovering the new world she's in

I'm not making any judgements on quality until I see it myself, that's just long been a concern I've had

[crude fog]

Rockwell has absolutely always been a product of his age

Never a nice guy even before he got the artifact

[trim locust]

Lmfao Rockwell has always been my favorite character from the lore seeing the teaser at the end of the season has me hyped

[prisma oxide]

Tragedy is part of the heroes journey. If you havent seen the show, its hard to discuss, but I'm under the impression that her history greatly benefits her motives.

So, I hope you get to watch and can see why it's maybe ok later

[crude fog]

I mean, tragedy is usually used to force them into action, but that's not entirely necessary when you're dumped nearly into the mouth of a megalodon

[trim locust]

It’s really tragic! I wouldn’t think I’d go so far as to OD but holy hell seeing her arm slump

[prisma oxide]

I personally didnt care for game Helena. It kinda seemed more like Mei Yins show IMO. The show has changed my mind considerably. Her history, not including just her suicide, definitely explains why she deserves to be the main survivor.

It's the same with all the characters. They all have something to fix.

[trim locust]

Yeah I always wanted a view into all the personal histories of these dossiers but I didn’t expect Helena’s to be so tragic

Not for how cheery she is about insert dinosaur here

[prisma oxide]

I didnt either given how lucky/almost careless she seemed in the game.

Knowing her character more changes how I view the game completely. In a good way.

[trim locust]

Oh exactly! Especially knowing where mei yin comes from too

[prisma oxide]

They all have great motives so far. Rockwells looks so different. I cant wait to see how they're incorporating his tragedy, and how they're going to fix this poor reception he's gotten.

It's too easy to hate him right now, when we know so little about him. Given how great every other character is, I'll trust the creator when he tells us to give it a second for Rockwell.

[trim locust]

Right? Seeing rockwell as this insane dude and laughed out of his whole workplace and put into a straight jacket because of his theories makes me feel for the dude

Poor guy just has theories

[fresh flame]

It's 2024, if it's not tragic no one cares

[prisma oxide]

It also makes him a product of his environment which is exactly what Helena was exploring. Which is crazy because Rockwell was arguing the opposite.

Maybe he realizes she's correct...

just likes the challenge.

[trim locust]

Definitely makes me feel for him in the later dossiers as a backstory and kinda explains why he doesn’t trust Helena on SE

[prisma oxide]

I should say, it could make him a product of his environment. I guess we don't really know if he was born crazy, or if he became crazy because others didn't believe in his ideals and sabotaged him or something.

We only have what they want us to see for the moment.

[trim locust]

I personally think his colleagues laughed him out of the room so he went off the deep end trying to prove them all wrong so he got locked up

[fresh flame]

Scientists even in the 1800s didn't get locked up for a theory

[prisma oxide]

Which would prove Helenas theory. Which would explain why she may be willing to forgive him. Just like she told Nerva.

[trim locust]

Lmfao that’s true maybe Rockwell experimented on humans

[fresh flame]

There is more to the Rockwell story thst isn't shared in the show

[trim locust]

I can’t wait for it tbh have they announced a date for the second half

[prisma oxide]

I dont think so, but I'm excited for it as well.

[fresh flame]

They won't release any more until at least after April 19th

[prisma oxide]

I know we'll only get the first glimpses, but I'm curious how they're gonna do scorched.

Ab's gonna be fine.

[trim locust]

Seeing Bob on SE made me so happy reminded me of my first days on ps4 official legacy watching all these beach bobs spawn on the weekends and die cause there was no water 😭

[prisma oxide]

I actually hated Bob when he was first shown. Seemed like fan service, not helped with the years of emote spam here yuck, but damn... even he's a great character because of that extra bit we got.

[fresh flame]

I think they hit the mark on bob

[prisma oxide]

The "We won..." after Helena told him the outcome of the war really highlighted why he was chosen by Helena.

Such little time on screen, yet such a useful character. And people are afraid of where Rockwells at... pffft.

[trim locust]

Dude his dossier is so sad

Him and his magical typewriter 😭 man survived for two weeks on the island before finding Helena and boom he dies because of her 🤣

[fresh flame]

Having him be a war veteran definitely makes sense

[trim locust]

I’m kinda glad they made him a vet cause I really was just expecting a fan service kinda dude 🤣 not a whole ass backstory

[prisma oxide]

I hadn't even considered that we'd get his history. but it's such a great detail to set him up for later.

[fresh flame]

Fr. Although it'll be weird if they have him on many other maps. Particularly ab or ext

[trim locust]

It makes sense though. Bobs didn’t do the story and still came to the new maps without ascending

Bobs are eternal

[prisma oxide]

I think he gets chosen specifically because he never leaves the arks, and is one of the few names Helena would remember and trust.

I don't see him getting to extinction while Helena is there, but Ab isn't too out of the question I reckon? I perosnally don't think he'll be there.

[trim locust]

Idk Helena and them in the game make it to the surface with whole groups of survivors

Maybe Bob made it

[prisma oxide]

It doesnt make sense if he does. Bob is our story.

[trim locust]

Yeah idk what they’ll do with him but Bob’s tall tales goes through to extinction

[prisma oxide]

Well, I still think he'll be behind Helena's crew. However, it may be possible they're trying to establish two different universes, and Bob is ASE's character representation which is why we're getting a story from him now that games is wrapped, and we're playing as "Joe" so to speak from ASA.

[trim locust]

I don’t know presumably Bob makes it all the way to Ark 2

For him to be telling Santiago’s daughter about the stories

[prisma oxide]

Right, he has to, I'm only suggesting that he's not gonna be with Helena's crew because he's a representation of the player. His story happens later.

[trim locust]

[prisma oxide]

Although we may get more time with him on SE in the show if he doesnt die immediately. Which might further cement why Helena chose him. I'm down for either way. It's not like he retains his past ark lives memory of the arks until Helena wills it.

[lavish pivot]

i knew people said he was really misogynistic but i wasnt expecting him to be that misogynistic
makes sense given he is a eugenicist i guess

[prisma oxide]

Also a product of his time.

[trim locust]

Yeah it makes sense for him to be that way it just caught me off guard 🤣

Like I expected dossier Rockwell and man he went 0-100 real fast

[prisma oxide]

It's definitely intentional for them to have kinda shell shocked ark fans with this form of rockwell.

[trim locust]

See that’s an interesting point! Helena makes him one that tries again! So he’s able to keep on Bobbing around the island

I love how everything in the show was dialed up! Tones of suicide, kids being ripped in half, limbs being lobbed off 🤣 they really went far but to be fair it’s like what do you think you’re really doing when you eat someone in pvp with a Rex 🤣

Real people wouldn’t just turn into a bag 😭

[prisma oxide]

It's exactly how it would've been. It's such a great representation of what couldn't be programmed realsitically.

That's why I don't get the hate, but meh... just proves the stories point.

[trim locust]

Idk the show is fantastic for what it is

Silly dinosaur game story but animated and very gorey

[prisma oxide]

I wish it had a guaranteed extra season so they could've slowed some things down, but I'm not too bothered by the pacing for it to ruin the experience.

Just hoping season two is only SE and Ab without Extinction. I don't mind ending on a dead earth as a series cliffhanger if that's all we get, but I'd hate to rush ab and se in order to resolve the whole story.

Which we know Helena doesn't do anyways with extinction.

[trim locust]

This is so true though!

Such 2 great maps for them to rush

[dull thicket]

Where’s Season Two at This show is Fire

[prisma oxide]

I'm just waiting for the rest of season 1 lol

[dull thicket]

Oh shit that ain’t the end of Season 1. They need to come out with Weekly episodes or something

[viral terrace]

absolute crap to start with rockwell slapping helena he was like a father to her for awhile

I hate that we waited years for them not to follow the story

[prisma oxide]

It follows the story, and the characters are the same. Just different events.

[viral terrace]

"different events" is not following the story lol

[prisma oxide]

It's the same story. Pokemon has the same story in every game, but you still have different events.

[viral terrace]

just stop now...ark has a lore. A very good lore thats been established for years and I wanted to see that because we didnt get to see it in the game

and instead they decided to go off the rails

[prisma oxide]

This show serves the ark lore in the best way possible with what we've seen. Yes it's different, but it's also the essence.

Feel free to not like it, but don't be upset when you're challenged about it.

[viral terrace]

You are not challenging me you are just throwing out vague thoughts. All you are doing is saything it works. No justification just that it as it should be.

[prisma oxide]

Why bother, you say it sucks, I said it doesn't. What would I need to elaborate on? You didn't bring anything for me to defend other than "show bad." I've been in this discord for a while, I quit defending, "game bad" comments years ago.

If you dont like it, you never will. It's alright. Feel free to move on.

No one will convince you otherwise, and I'm not a fan of peeps coming here to hivemind crap on everything associated with this IP.

[weary abyss]

I don’t think it fucks up the lore

It’s just more condensed.

[prisma oxide]

Not only that, but a large part of the story payoff is when the player witnesses stuff in games. Because they're showing the past, and aren't guaranteed the opportunity to show what the player sees, they have to adjust things to give us the full experience.

[weary abyss]

Which makes sense, with wildcard and snail’s money issues, there’s probably not a lot of budget to get literally everything.

Honestly i’m surprised at how gorey it is though

[prisma oxide]

WC and Snails money isnt quite responsible for the show. This was a side passion project.

[meager edge]

I was shocked too ark is such a goofy game that the gore was super visceral. I think it was placed well though

[weary abyss]

Everything needs funding.

[prisma oxide]

That's interesting you consider ark a goofy game.

right, but it wasnt funded by WC or Snail, it was by the founders of WC.

[meager edge]

Just that all the violence in the game itself leans more towards cartoon violence than straight up visceral gore

I still really like it though, I like it when gore is used effectively to make the viewer feel things rather than just cheaply throwing it in

[prisma oxide]

Yeah, the way damage is presented in the game is probably just a product of program limitations. Which is what it sounds like they want to rectify in ARK II. I do think they always wanted the consequences to feel heavy like in the show though.

It definitely sets a more serious tone, and adds to how important the writers see the end goal of the story.

Seeing these extra bits of Helena really helps her game character IMO. It kinda highlights her embodiment of compassion and love and explains why she ends up being the face of the game, and is the best candidate to combat the embodiment of hate that is the corruption.

Before she just feels like she got lucky all the way to the end, but the show highlights how shes worked to get where she is. Such a better character now IMO.

[meager edge]

Yeah for sure, it felt kind of like Invincible to me where you don't really expect it to be super violent then it just hits you like, "Wow, this shit is real". And highlights their mortality. (though this show is obviously not as violent as invincible.... lol)

AND YEAH I really prefer show Helena vs notes Helena for the same reasons you mentioned

[prisma oxide]

I got off track, the gore presented in the show really highlights that dichotomy of her character and what she will have to face further down the road (had to bring it to what you posted, my bad).

They definitely have to emphasize the consequences here. We as the fan base have an idea of what the real horrors are of this story world, and the state that it's in (assuming the show follows the game ||which it is, contrary to popular belief||), but we wouldn't have seen the true nature of the situation until a bit later. So, they've got highlight the severity and weight of consequences early on.

Which is probably why they decided to make Rockwell do what he did now, instead of having it later. To help bring back Zerg's... ugh... point.

[raven zodiac]

Spoiler Warning
This honestly shook me because of my fasination with river dwellers and in general sea life. ||The Scene of where Mei Yin and Helena in the cave skinning the Otter made me cry a little cause I love otters I was in shock when she threw the dead Otter at Helena and she said dinner.||

@oak brook
ARK: The Animated Series, is Stellar

I love the animation it looks fantastic, I love the twists, the turns, and the originality of the story for this series. I can tell there has been a lot of love and work put into this production.

My only critic is the representation of the sizes of some creatures of the ARK, but I can live with it as I theorize the decision for the size inconsistencies to withhold the scientific studies of the creatures true sizes.

An example: The achatina being able to fit in Helena's satchel. But in game the achatina is as big or larger than the players torso.

I hope and await for future updates/news for hopefully upcoming seasons and the direction of the story after the end of the current season.

[fresh flame]

I like how they gave island Helena actual character in the show. It felt like in the notes it took until ab and ext for her to get that

[keen crater]

I really hope the animated series will be on dvd

[prisma oxide]

Would love to see an animated series inspired animated emote now that it's out. Like maybe a snip of the dodo looking back and forth at the beginning of episode one for a funny "No", or maybe like Mei Yin on her roaring on her rex at the gladiatricis compound.

[half stone]

i just finished e6, the whole of e5/e6 was such a good ||send off for john. i was crying at the end|| . did they say when part 2 is going to come out?

regarding the teaser for part 2: || we see scorched earth, abberation (possibly?) and the island, which really makes me wonder if we are going to see 2 different stories ran in parallel: John Dahkeya, Raia and bob (hopefully more than 13 minutes this time) on scorched earth while the island has the whole nerva saga going on. iirc the whole john and raia saga occurs quite some time before helena and the gang ascends to scorched earth||

[prisma oxide]

||I have a feeling if we get any of Raia and John Dahkeya it'll be through the reflection of Wali al Aswad, yes I know who she is, to Helena. Given how much this show likes flashbacks and how little time they have, there's a chance we won't get any of that, and Helena and Rockwell will recreate the events SE, or join at the tail end of some established city the ark decides to destroy.||

However, ||I think Helena is saying she recognizes Bob's voice in the teaser, so I'm not convinced Bob is gonna have been present on SE too long before Helena gets there.|| If anything, ||The snippets we see of SE and Ab are quite literally the last minute teasers in season 1 for season 2, and we won't get much of anything story wise yet.||

[half stone]

||hmm yea that is very true and now that i think about it more, it's quite likely we simply see raia/john's story thru timeskips. on the contrary, we also see santiago in a tek suit on abb so i'm not sure where that would fit in this early-on. tbh i was under the impression that they were going to do 1 season for each map but clearly that isn't the case.||
do we know if this next part is the equivelent too s2 or weather it's just part 2 of season 1?

[prisma oxide]

It's just part two of season 1

IIRC season 1 has 14 episodes.

[half stone]

also another thing while i'm on the subject of future seasons: they really shot themselves in the foot by releasing this on paramount with no advertising beforehand whatsoever. not to mention that by making it a US/canada exclusive till april, they are literally asking fans to pirate it.
i can imagine some executives reviewing the metrics and going "huh, not many people are interested, let's scrap it".

[half stone]

awesome

[prisma oxide]

Something I hadn't really considered is what the Island Ascension montage is gonna look like in the show. I imagine it'll be pretty neato.

[fresh flame]

Believinf that releasing it as a us/Canada only on launch will make it more pirated is actually funny

[icy aspen]

is paramount plus the only place i can watch this?

[eager creek]

Why is the animation so bright

[half stone]

lol how so? why would the rest of the world wait

in no way am i justifying it

sure, i would agree that a large sum of people can't be bothered to go thru the hassle. But if people's only way of watching it is thru piracy, then they're gonna do that 100%.

i would also argue that a large % of the people who do pirate it would rather watch it on paramount plus if they were given the oppotunity to do so.

[reef iris]

Wildcard as per making stupid decision after stupid decision. A release such as this is, in proven track history applied in cases to AAA films with a much larger audience base and a solid ground for hype of which success is guaranteed. Not, a low budget anime that looks like my nan drew with a few known name actors thrown in based on an existing video game that doesn't have the most successful history in the first place. Just another feeble attempt to squeeze money from every orifice of the remaining fan base. I was hyped for the series.

[west cedar]

Whens part 2 coming?

[open timber]

Sometime this year

[eager creek]

Is helena the only palaeontologist in the series?

[quaint needle]

Series was indeed really good think I've gotten about 6 or so people to watch it now - bit of a shame others outside of Canada and US don't get to watch it till the 19th of April but I highly recommend!

[half stone]

i reckon you're being abit harsh there lol.

[quaint lichen]

anybody not seen the series yet?

[surreal pier]

It's not Wildcard. And the releases being staggered is probably Paramount's policy.
#ark-animated-series message

[sullen star]

animation isn't that bad, and I don't think we could fully consider this a cash grab. They worked hard on this series, and they tried to please the fan base.

[surreal pier]

A fair few haven't yet, I would imagine the ones that haven't probably don't dig too deep into this channel either with all the spoilers lol

[sullen star]

Ngl I think the best episodes were 4 and 6

[fair trout]

A few.. you mean most cause most outside of the US and Canada didn't XD

[surreal pier]

@marble verge #bobs-with-probs.

[surreal pier]

That's the meaning with the saying "a fair few"

[fair trout]

oh I didn't see the fair XD

[brave patio]

6 was great. John went crazy against Nerva and the Giga

[alpine shale]

Cap

[gusty moon]

This is very funny to read. It's just my style, there's no actual music cue that sounds like Ori.

[sullen star]

dude when the giga came out, all my friends were screaming lol

[gusty moon]

Correct, a lot of Gen 2's music is based around the Rockwell leitmotif and it was fun (and made sense) to transfer that motif to the show. Gen2 was recorded at the same time as the 1st episode of the animated series.

[brave patio]

Fr that was so cool. Rexes got wiped real quick lol

[modest urchin]

I KNEW IT

[brave patio]

Wait so the 1st episode was made when Gen 2 was being made? Damn that was so long ago

[sullen star]

Season 1 in general was made a while back

[modest urchin]

It was announced like 4 years ago

[sullen star]

what I'm guessing is

[modest urchin]

Gen 2 came out in 21’ irrc

[sullen star]

season 1 is all island, and season 2 is scorched + Abberation

[hollow vine]

ARK is almost a decade old at this point, hard to believe

[modest urchin]

Idk how you’d fit scorched and aberration in the same season

[sullen star]

it's probably due to time constraints if they did

But we don't know

[modest urchin]

I don’t doubt that could be an issue but scorched and AB’s story aberration especially is pretty good and I hate to see it done rushed

[sullen star]

Me too

But they could just make each episode like 35-40 minutes long

So that they can spend a good chunk of time in each one

[modest urchin]

I expect most episodes to be 20-30 minutes

With the occasional 40-50 minute special

[hollow pond]

I was thinking uhh it was going to have 2 perspectives?
Helena's on Scorched then AB's for Meiyin's until they meet up again

[modest urchin]

That could work but I think people would complain about too much happening at once

[hollow pond]

True

[modest urchin]

Either way I’m really excited to see some events possibly animated

[hollow pond]

Same

[modest urchin]

Like the sinking of the city on scorched and the blowing up of the overseer tower on aberration

[hollow pond]

Oh yeah

That's something that'd be cool to see

[modest urchin]

And then the aftermath of said explosion

[shell stone]

Anyone think that this show is kinda cringy?

[hollow vine]

It's a big internet

[quaint lichen]

if anybody wants to watch it with me in a couple hours pm me 😀 can do a watch party 🥳

[west cedar]

I mean you mostly watched camp Cretaceous, you should be fine with watching this too.

[shell stone]

Camp cretaceous was a cringe fest

Why can't they make a dinosaur show that simply isn't cringy?

[west cedar]

It was but I still liked it.

[prisma oxide]

I don't think this show was cringey. What would be cringey about it in your opinion? The characters all have decent motives and stories, they make good decisions, and all have specific roles. I don't think the dinosaurs do to much to be cringey either really.

[half stone]

hot take: people are unhappy with how the game is and that anger has imprinted onto their view of the animated series

[hollow vine]

Im unhappy with the direction A:SA is going and I thought the show was decent

[half stone]

not saying the animated series is/isn't perfect or that it's not okay if it's not your cup-of-tea, but I've noticed that some "reviews" are extremely polarized.

[half stone]

same

[hollow vine]

Some of the reviews are blatant projections of an individual's politics clashing with the show's character writing, I just choose to disregard them.

[prisma oxide]

I just think it's easy to follow the pessimistic hivemind-ish culture this community has allowed to develop, and apply that to anything with the ark name.

People definitely don't have to like either, but I feel like they come here just to post unbacked/vague/uneducated negative comments just because they know they'll get interaction with other people.

[half stone]

oh yea i agree 100%, ignoring that lot is the best you can do lol

[hollow vine]

Sure, but remembering that they're out there helps to explain at least a portion of the polarized bad faith reviews in my view. Others will just genuinely not like it.

[brave patio]

I wish John stayed for longer

[hollow vine]

And yeah the polarization of the community also explains some, I remember watching the first few episodes of Edgerunners on Twitch and the reactions were mostly negative from twitch chat

Of course that show went on to be very well acclaimed by a general audience

[upbeat fog]

ngl the piece of hair that’s always in front of helena’s face annoys me

[wet wraith]

i cant watch ark animated series on my paramount+? why?

[surreal pier]

Are you in US/Canada?

[surreal pier]

Same here

[wet wraith]

No im not from northamerica

[surreal pier]

The series is not available for other countries until April 19

[wet wraith]

oh ok nice, what a waste of money

[surreal pier]

This is in the pinned messages, telling users that it is only in US/Canada atm.
https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1770707073656828257?t=97j90Y5VcriZnknZF8no5A&s=19

Paramount+ (@paramountplus) on X

Survival of the wildest. Based on the acclaimed video game, #ARK The Animated Series is NOW STREAMING in the US and Canada. Coming to other countries with #ParamountPlus starting April 19th.

Twitter · Mar 21, 2024, 7:00 AM

[brave patio]

Is it weird that I kinda like it?

[upbeat fog]

yes

[brave patio]

[shell stone]

Wasn't Vin deasel supposed to be in this show?

[prisma oxide]

He is

[shell stone]

The cliché tropes

[shell stone]

What episode?

[prisma oxide]

6

[shell stone]

Ohh, I'm not on that one yet

[brave patio]

He was just in the sneak peak for part 2 at the end of episode 6

[quaint lichen]

anybody wanting to watch, pm me, watching in 30 mins!

[shell stone]

This show has a sublime message about segregation

[hollow vine]

Vin Diesel plays Santiago so we won't see him until the rest of the story characters catch up with him on Aberration, most likely

[brave patio]

Wasn't the thing at the end of 6 a peak at part 2 or just the future of the show? Cause it showed him

[hollow vine]

The fact that we saw him gave me the impression that it was a mixture of both. If Santiago shows up on the Island then I'm a bit skeptical

[prisma oxide]

Santiago isn't on island in the show...

[hollow vine]

Of course it's possible that we fly through Scorched Earth in part 2 and/or meet him at the very end of it, which could explain why he was in the preview.

[brave patio]

Yup so at the beginning of the teaser it says Part 2

When it shows Santiago he has a bulbdog right next to him and the background is very Ab like

There is no way in Part 1 they only beat the Brood and in Part 2 they make it to Ab

[lavish pivot]

the part 2 trailer shows scorched

[hollow vine]

Could be, actually. It might be that the Island is one of the longer story segments since it establishes a lot of the franchise's main characters.

[prisma oxide]

It very much screams post ascension scenes for probably both Helena and Mei Yin. It make sense we get small bits at the end of season one.

[lavish pivot]

maybe it shows santiagos story aswell but not directly connected to helena yet

[prisma oxide]

Being that they both go to different arks.

[brave patio]

That could be right ya

[lavish pivot]

personally im most excited to see the visuals they use to represent rockwell going insane from the element

[prisma oxide]

It'll show santiagos story connected to Mei Yin, because thats what happens in the game.

[brave patio]

That also makes sense. And Rockwell is going completely insane in the teaser which means he is probably getting addicted to element. So ya they might shoot through SE

[prisma oxide]

That's almost exactly what doesnt happen. If I was a betting man.

[lavish pivot]

all of this just depends on how many episodes are in part 2

[brave patio]

I mean I hope they don't go fast through SE. but the teaser confuses me lol

[prisma oxide]

There are 8 episodes in part 2.

[lavish pivot]

oh

[brave patio]

Hmm

[prisma oxide]

I don't there think is anything to be confused about other than we see both aberration and scorched earth because Helena ends up on Scorched and Mei Yin ends up on Aberration at the same time.

[lavish pivot]

maybe the first episode is them getting off the island and the fight between nerva and kor?

[solemn kelp]

god i wanna watch the series but i do not want to pay for it lmfaoo

[brave patio]

Ohh is that what happens lore wise

I don't know much about the lore ngl

[prisma oxide]

That is correct. It's also why it's still possible for Dianas involvement with yada yada...

[brave patio]

Gonna def watch some Ark lore before part 2

[hollow vine]

Could be, although I wonder if they'll play up Mei Yin's disappearance for dramatic effect for at least an episode or two.

[lavish pivot]

its not really gonna matter because the show doesnt follow the games one to one

it diverges alot

[brave patio]

These are the fights that need to happen pretty sure. Nerva vs Kor. Helena vs Monkey. Helena vs Overseer right?

[lavish pivot]

yeah thats what is shown iirc

[brave patio]

True but I've been meaning to watch NeddyTheNoddle videos for a while anyway

[lavish pivot]

too much for one episode

[prisma oxide]

I'm about 99% sure we won't get more than like half an episode at most showing SE and Ab in part 2. I think that's all saved for Season 2.

[lavish pivot]

oki

[brave patio]

Especially since they don't have shit to fight the overseer. Their 2 best tames, the Rexes, got wiped

Unless Scary is about to solo it lol

[prisma oxide]

Yeah, they'll most definitely be using Kor's tames, and whatever new creatures they get like Wuzhui or whatever its name is.

[lavish pivot]

maybe they get a giga?

mei yin gets a giga in the notes so they could use that

[hollow vine]

Hmm, honestly if they're planning on devoting that many episodes to one ARK then it might be hard to keep my interest in the long term. I guess I'll reserve judgement until the show's out, though.

[prisma oxide]

Island is the foundation of the story, it make sense more time is spent there as everyone is trying to figure everything out. It makes more sense for them to spend less time on the others.

14 episodes isnt that long considering how much island content there is.

[brave patio]

Makes sense

[hollow vine]

If they focus on the right things they could possibly pull it off, Rockwell hasn't had much limelight yet and his story is a lot more important than Nerva's.

Still, 8 more episodes of the Island does seem like a lot considering how densely packed the first 6 episodes are.

[shell stone]

The fact that helanas flashbacks are abt aboriginals segregation and John's are abt segregation again native americans

[brave patio]

Jeremy did say they will go more in depth with Rockwell in part 2

[prisma oxide]

I mean... they've got || to visit kor, convince him to join the cause, fight monkey, get new creatures, do the underwater stuff, kors gotta fight with nerva, theyve gotta explore nerva and rockwells history, they've got to recoup Alasies fathers death, they've got to fight dragon, they've got to work their way to figuring out tek cave, then they got to fight overseer, and kill nerva. There's still so much left to do.||

[hollow vine]

That's 9 things and you probably dont need a full episode for a lot of them, but I'm rooting for them to pull it off if that's the direction they go in.

[prisma oxide]

It's nine things minimum. There are still others I didnt mention. I figured that would've been enough to prove the point. || Like exploring Helenas mothers funeral, exploring Helenas first interaction with Victoria, the time it takes to travel the snow to get to the monkey arena, the time it takes nerva to get to carno island to fight dragon, the extra tek weapon fights we see outside of hall of history with nerva and his tek sword, rockwells hidden secrets with the tek rifle, the ascension sequence, and the introduction of the teaser bits we saw of scorched and ab.||

[brave patio]

|| oh I forgot about Rockwell getting the tek rifle ||

[prisma oxide]

They've also got to ||Expand on Henry's character now that John is dead, and explore why rockwells stump was glowing. I'd imagine its when theyre gonna share the goop on the walls in the boss arenas being some kind of liquid element. Which also sets up rockwells character history.|| I hope I've presented enough lol. There's still so much to see on island.

[hollow vine]

In fairness to the writers, the Island has the most explorer notes on it, so we'll see how they handle things.

[prisma oxide]

One of the biggest complaints of the show is it's rapid pacing. The last thing it needs is to rush all of that stuff. There's even more things still they've got to wrap up.

[hollow vine]

I actually don't agree that the show paces things too quickly. I might attribute a lot of that criticism to the first couple episodes, where we go through a massive tonal shift in the first and ||take out the Broodmother|| in the second.... unless Im misremembering the story arcs already

Overlooking the initial shock of that I'd actually say the pacing is pretty much on point.

[coarse root]

They unfortunately seem to care about showing us the flashbacks too much it’s like 50% of the first 2 episodes and has no relevance whatsoever

[prisma oxide]

Now, that I don't agree with. The flashbacks are totally important.

It was literally one of the most important things the medium has to offer.

[fervent stag]

The information given in the flashbacks are important, but they didn't 'need' to be flashbacks.

There's plenty of examples of writers explaining someone's backstory via dialogue.
Which for pacing, and not making the show mostly flashbacks. Could've been what they did.

[prisma oxide]

Well, they definitely couldn't be current events. I think they tried to mix up memories vs creams vs last minute hallucinations.

creams? I meant dreams

[coarse root]

Most of the information in question could have been provided in a better way or a quick flashback they just spent too much time on her love life and family life when it’s be the same story without the 30 mins of it

[prisma oxide]

It may be the same story, but those memories drastically help each of the character. I'm not sure how else they've could've done it without vague dialogue that doesnt really show us the impact of their events.

[fervent stag]

That's what I'm talking about.
The execution of the information we gather from the flashbacks could've been a lot more fluent to the story.
In episode 6, we literally have a moment where John is talking about his past, right before it cuts to a flashback mid-sentence.
That shit could've been him just having a heart to heart.

[nimble crypt]

I didn’t like the flash backs because they were too woke.

[fervent stag]

"Without vague dialogue" is basically how most stories are told of peoples past.
I can relate to another human being if they tell me a traumatic past without needing a flashback.

[prisma oxide]

Right the visual media is an opportunity to showcase the reliving of those events. It makes them much more real to the character, and is something we can't 100% for each other irl via just voice.

Like Helenas descent into depression only really works the way it was presented. It's an artistic representation of how her mind was working during that time.

[fervent stag]

To me, and seems like to others. It did the opposite.
By having so much flashbacks, it made their stories disconnected from the rest of the plot.
And when we get a flashback from John before Mei's rescue. It makes it very, very obvious that he's about to die. (Cause that's a common writing technique. Get rid as much story exposition to the viewer before getting rid of a character)

[prisma oxide]

To me and to others it worked for us. Both methods are artistic choices the directors chose to make. I don't think it's an offensive presentation, and honestly I don't think it ruins the pacing either. Just preference.

I think if I had it my way, I personally wouldnt have started with flashbacks so soon. However because of the limited time the show has, I understand why they'd start them out the gate.

But I'd still have them.

[hollow vine]

Actually I fully understand why they show us so many flashbacks. They're showing us everyone's memories in intimate detail ||before revealing that they're all implanted by the ARK and ripping them away from the characters.||

It's a bit unorthodox but the payoff could be good if done correctly.

[pine trout]

With out all the flashbacks the characters would be bland and boring

You need flash backs to flesh out a character

[prisma oxide]

Like there is no way they could emphasize the trauma of Mei Yin's history without the flashbacks. ||A character a can describe being covered in blood, broken, and trying to approach they're younger sibling after killing many people in an act of vengeance, but it's way too wordy, and the act loses a lot of meaning than just showing her covered in blood and her brother crying while looking at his broken sister. No words to tell us what to feel, just music to emphasize the tragedy we already see. There has to be flashbacks for that kind of stuff.

Same with John and his interpretation of his ghost family... it would sound crazy if he tried to explain that in words.||

[pine trout]

Exactly

Same with Helena,
the reason why she chose to survive is because of what happened to Victoria and her Mother, if they just saying “yeah my wife got shot and my mother got sick and died

[prisma oxide]

It's helped explained ||why she's deciding to stand up for what's right in the face of nerva and rockwell instead of just running away and hiding, they've explained why she has chosen to use this second chance to survive instead of giving up on life, they've, as you mentioned, showcase her application of relevant knowledge, but they've also showcased her incredible love for these creatures and people before coming to the ark, and why she feels she has to fight for them, and the influences that drive her to those conclusions. I'm honestly not sure how that could be arueged otherwise.||

[pine trout]

It does to the audience not so much the other character’s

[prisma oxide]

I think it does. We're a culmination of our experiences. What makes her operate differently than Rockwell?

[pine trout]

Though it does help

[prisma oxide]

By that logic Rockwell should just do whats right

None of these characters are meant to be inherently evil. They're meant to be real products of the lives they've had and their experiences. It's literally what makes them, themselves.

[pine trout]

I mean that probably is true though

[prisma oxide]

Thats such a simple way to look at things.

[worldly urchin]

Just saw the tv commercial! is the series good?

[pine trout]

This is the wrong place to ask that, there many people saying both sides

[pine trout]

I think its good but others don’t

I’m on both sides of the flashbacks while I think there important they should have been relegated to one or two episodes instead of throughout all of them

[worldly urchin]

where would be a good place to ask?

[pine trout]

I’m going to be honest I don’t know any where you go it would probably be the dame mixed opinions

Why Would You Say Something So Controversial Yet So Brave?

There was only one and it wasn’t even a flashback

[worldly urchin]

Amen 🙏

[pine trout]

While the rest of the fanbase complains that if the show is woke or not, us three have our priorities straight i

[prisma oxide]

The game isn't and has never been about the dinosaurs. If it wasn't made clear in the explorer notes, I believe that's made pretty clear in the Gen1 glitches. I understand your confusion if thats what you thought the games story was about.

Yes, they're the medium in which to tell the story. I love dinosaurs. It's why I even got the game, but there's a reason different arks use different types of creatures. They're purely a medium to test the survivor, and were also things the humans/homo deus could develop in the small time they had left on earth to get things going. It's amazing they even got humans accurate given how complex we are. Once again, emphasized by the events of Gen1.

[boreal atlas]

Her wife, and it implies that ||helena committed lifen’t on new years because of the loneliness she faced from victoria dying||
Marked as a spoiler just in case

[prisma oxide]

The story will be however meaningful you want it to be.

I'm under the impression that Helena's relationship is absolutely critical to understanding her motives as a character. Maybe she didn't have to be lesbian, she could be bi, maybe they could've made her straight. Who really knows if it's important that she be lesbian. She's meant to be the embodiment of love, and showcase her love for mankind even through the bounty of criticism and obstacles they give her. I don't want to say like a martyr, but her history is what makes her the way she is.

[late gyro]

Is the new animated note bugged cant Seem to unlock the skins

[boreal atlas]

Yes, it literally showed their wedding lol. Helena in a dress and victoria in a suit holding her

[prisma oxide]

The character is Victoria Walker. ||It not only shows a ring, but also wedding photos.||

[boreal atlas]

Then again I’m just very attentive, but it’s definitely in there

[prisma oxide]

Nah, I believe thats episode 1

[boreal atlas]

Same

[pine trout]

there are pictures of them at their wedding in the 1st episode

[prisma oxide]

Probably not... I'm not sure what there is to miss or not miss.

[boreal atlas]

They did kiss yes

[pine trout]

I’ve watched it twice and I don’t remember that

[boreal atlas]

Yall have some shit memory tbh

[prisma oxide]

So, what are the chances when they show Rockwell's history that ||they pull a Dr. Frankenstein approach? It's clearly what he does ultimately in the game, but I wonder if he was build-a-bearing people in his real life, and that's why he was locked away. I wonder how they'd explain his motives with that.||

[worldly urchin]

[pine trout]

Your not wrong

[prisma oxide]

||Them cutting his hand off would actually be a good introductory to that history if he's reflecting on how to fix his missing limb.||

[pine trout]

I loved Rockwell getting his hand cut off

I don’t think anything remotely like that happened to him in the game

[prisma oxide]

||I mean it was self inflicted, but he did squirt the forbidden juice into his arm. Had to cut off all circulation in order for it not to kill him.||

[pine trout]

Unless your talking about Mei Yin and Helena, that I remember

[boreal atlas]

Bro doesn’t know how to censor a text lmao

[pine trout]

I never use discord

[boreal atlas]

Type ||insert message here, then those two bars again without spaces

||But yeah helena kisses meiyin in the last episode, but we seen her kiss victoria long before that ||

[pine trout]

Type ||did it work?||

[cyan scaffold]

I hope there will be the titan king in the serie

[prisma oxide]

I'm not entirely sure we'll actually get entinction. They may leave it on a series cliffhanger if it doesnt get approved for more seasons. I don't think we've had any indication of anything for extinction, and I'm not sure theres enough time to cram all 3 dlc into 1 season.

[surreal pier]

They already have season 2 and I think some of season 3, so it'd be a matter of if paramount keeps it going at that point I think

[prisma oxide]

I looked through the pins, where have they mentioned work on a third season? I'd love for that to be the case. I don't use X, so my news is limited from there.

[prisma oxide]

I know you're considerably more involved in the news here. Don't tease me with this new revelation!

[surreal pier]

They were working on season 2 before they even found a new platform, it was either here or on x/twitter

[prisma oxide]

Right, but you were talking about season 3

[surreal pier]

I also said I think lmao

I'll search around

Season 2 here
#ark-animated-series message

[prisma oxide]

It would make sense why they had to delay the show for as long as it was if they had to restructure it because it got preapproved for 3 seasons, and could stretch/add content to a newly tagged on third season.

Yes, I've known about Season 2 for ages lol, just got all excited they were already working on Season 3.

I hadn't seen anything about a third season.

[surreal pier]

Looking.

[pine trout]

I still can’t believe season 1 is out, I’ve been super excited for this for a very long time

[surreal pier]

Mildly annoying that I cannot find it

But here's some other info
https://twitter.com/jeremystieglitz/status/1771346951235072429?t=OK086GLqSpEOGPqgZ390RA&s=19

Jeremy Stieglitz (@jeremystieglitz) on X

@OffstageStreams @arkjesse Part 2 is 'Episodes 7 thru 13' of Season 1. It's just taking us about 6 more months to finish the post-production on those big episodes. (so Season 1 is split into two parts)

Twitter · Mar 23, 2024, 1:23 AM

[cedar sand]

bob is the best character

[surreal pier]

@worldly urchin If you have an issue with moderation, you can message Dodo Mail at the top of the members list. We do not discuss that in these channels. Keep it appropriate. Thanks.

[prisma oxide]

It's amazing how much work the creators put into each of the characters, including Helena, yet many people only focus on one aspect of her... makes the story of the game waaaay to real.

Change of subject. you know the creators didn't just fluke out with ARK when they can write new peeps with just as equally compelling stories like with John and Alasie. I kinda expected them to just be fodder, or fill run time... but they're actually really good characters so far.|| Hopefully, they don't ruin Alasie in Part 2 with some teen angst bs. Let her mourn, but don't make her stupid.|| The shows been great about that so far.

[pine trout]

||I nearly cried when John died, he was so cool in that last episode||

[prisma oxide]

When they announced the shows cast, I gave his character an eye roll for some of the same reasons peeps have suggested, ||but after his monologue with Helena about seeing his wife and son, and then leaving the note for Alasie... it was clear what they were about to do to him... I was very sad to see they were cutting him so quickly. Thank god it's one of the best send offs you could give a character we've known so little about. He was simple, strong, and smart. Incredibly well written. He definitely held his own amongst the known names.||