lore-nerdz

[merry cipher]

beggars cant be choosers i guess

[solemn linden]

To be fair all of the drawings that appear to have actual time put into them look good, whereas the quick sketches are far less accurate. Fully understandable that someone might rush the less important drawings while hiding from dinosaurs.

[merry cipher]

i mean it's pretty easy to draw a dinosaur that looks better than that creature in a few seconds

that and i think she would've drawn the notes in well-hidden spots or after encountering them

[solemn linden]

Clearly she drew it in a rush and was about to erase it and try again but had to run away from something and never got the chance, or she drew it and then couldn't fix it because she doesn't have an eraser

remember: never go to a post apocalyptic space station filled with dinosaurs without your trusty eraser

Also I was wrong, there is at least one dossier drawing that clearly had time put into it but still looks terribly inaccurate - the troodon.

[merry cipher]

yeah the artist doesnt know what dinosaurs look like i think

[solemn linden]

They did so well everywhere else but then they got to the troodon and...

[brazen sparrow]

Don't forget the velonasaur, which looks cooler in the dossier than the actual ingame model lmao

[merry cipher]

to be fair it was probably an early concept

but as a paleoartist the ark designs as a whole just irk me in general

i don't want 100% accuracy in ark but i wish they looked at the animal like more than once

[solemn linden]

At least the dossier velonasaur looks cool and considering the creatures on Earth were evolving at a rapid rate from element exposure that can be justified as Helena having encountered an earlier stage in the velonasaurs evolution.

[merry cipher]

ngl i feel like the only person who honestly prefers the velonasaur ingame design gdshgsjds

it's goofy in a cool way

[solemn linden]

The troodon in the dossier however looks like someone selectively bred them for multiple generations in an attempt to create something as deformed as a pug (which to be fair, the troodons totally deserve so I would do that).

[merry cipher]

youre just talking about every dinosaur in ark tbf

except for like maybe the carno

despite how ugly it is, it's. not too far from the actual animal

[solemn linden]

I like both the velonasaur's in-game and dossier appearances equally. They're both great in their own ways.

[merry cipher]

valid, honestly I agree there

[solemn linden]

In mean in the dossiers specifically. They usually look far better in the drawings than the in-game models.

[merry cipher]

not really, they look pretty similar

the drawings are usualyl overly detailed with textures

[brazen sparrow]

Fair

[brazen sparrow]

Don't get me wrong, I love my little thorn babies, but the dossier design is so SLEEK

[merry cipher]

I fucking looove the velonasaur because it's an example of a GOOD goofy fake dinosaur that fits ARK

[solemn linden]

Most of the time the dossiers are similar enough that you can tell it's the same creature but they get additional details that make them look better but don't appear on the in-game models or have better postures than they do in-game. A good example of the posture one is the Quetzal, which in it's dossier actually acts like a Quetzal, whereas in game it takes the least comfortable position possible in order to support a platform saddle, even when no such saddle is there.

[merry cipher]

honestly yeah

while the ARK quetzal has its own inaccuracies it... at least stands like one in the dossier

oh one example of the dossier being better than the ingame thing. amargasaurus

ingame amargasaurus looks horrendous but the dossier looks awesome

[solemn linden]

in-game amargasaurus looks good at some angles and terrible at others. I think it's something to do with the way it's face is structured. Dunno how accurate they got the face though so if it's face is genuinely structured like that then at least it's supposed to be ugly, if not I dunno why they did that to it.

[merry cipher]

The face's accuracy is very, very inaccurate ingame but highly accurate in the dossier.

They moved the nostrils up and shrinkwrapped the eyeholes in the model for some reason.

[solemn linden]

Yeah the velonasaur looks great. It doesn't have to be super accurate since it's not a real dinosaur and it's clearly been stylized a little to fit with ARK's art style. It just looks really good.

[solemn linden]

Damn, that explains it. It looks nice from the side but as soon as you look at it from the front that face just looks wrong.

[vital robin]

she isn't a paleontologist tho

i'm assuming you're referring to Helena

oh wait nvm sorry

she is

[bold dove]

[merry cipher]

bruh

[safe osprey]

Hi

[dusk sail]

Whats yall theory about giant tree on fjodur?

[brazen sparrow]

It's not canon, but that's Yggdrasil, the world tree

[junior spade]

Yggdrasil the world tree otherwise to the nords beloved it held the 9 realms of the universe Midgard aka earth Asgard Vanaheim Alfheim Nifelheim Muspelheim Helheim Svartalheim Jotunheim and then in between the 9 realms was the in between space known to us as the vacuum of space

Believed not beloved

[bold dove]

Don't need theories if you know Norse mythology.

[amber trench]

Yo I have a question what are the origins of the sanctuary on extinction?

[lyric tendon]

Extinction is set on Earth, not on an ARK like all maps except Genesis which is on a ship

And Sanctuary is a city on Earth

[amber trench]

Ok

[bold dove]

I don't recall anything from that message saying "Extinction is on an ARK"

Sounds like they where just wondering if the city has a origin/lore to it.

[lyric tendon]

I explained it with more detail

[rich bison]

.. Speaking of Extinction

Doesn't extinction's map patterns imply t he world is just.. .boned on a fundamental basis?

It's always day on Extinction. Always.

Tht implies the rotation of the planet's stopped... so... wouldn't that mean regardless of what we do, it's totally screwed?

[bold dove]

The ending implies the Earth started rotating again.

[solemn linden]

Depends on whether or not the ARKs are able to magically fix it's rotation somehow, which considering the lack of rotation would have resulted in far worse conditions than we see in game, it seems likey they were doing something to fix it anyway.

[bold dove]

Hints why Helena said "Ah, the suns rising"
The sun doesn't rise obviously if the Earth is still.

[rich bison]

Fair. Does bring up a new question of how the rotation even stopped in the first place...

[bold dove]

Corruption dug its way to the core of Earth and cooled it.

[rich bison]

... I ... how... How does that even change anything

Maybe Im just stupid I gues.

[solemn linden]

You're not stupid, it's just that we don't really get any answer in lore than explains it in a way that makes sense. That's just the only answer we have at the moment.

[glad oak]

Element voodoo is the best explanation we got

[glacial pilot]

tek is the dumbest thing added to ark

[pseudo nimbus]

"Whistle attack target"

Come on Jamie come on bootleg do your jobs

[bold dove]

"No U"

[merry cipher]

I wasn't summoned but

No u

[bold dove]

You where summoned in spirit.

[merry cipher]

I hear a bad take and materialise before your very eyes

[bold dove]

Mood

[bold dove]

You also like my pfp?

[solemn linden]

It's very nice. Rockwell lookin hella smexy

[bold dove]

Thank u

[rigid palm]

Jamies gone… 😥

[solemn linden]

nope

Jamie is back

[rigid palm]

Unless they re-joined in the last week?

[pseudo nimbus]

Jamie came back

He rejoined earlier today

[rigid palm]

Oh nice!

And bootleg has a new pfp and is now weirdwell…

It seems I missed a lot in like 2 days

[tender wasp]

Otterly boolied me back..

[fallow sapphire]

I have apparently missed a lot in a few weeks

[rigid palm]

I’m glad she did

[tender wasp]

She used her evil otter powers

[solemn linden]

but otters are incapable of evil :0

[bold dove]

That is NOT true at all

[solemn linden]

On second thought I have just remembered things that I had attempted to erase from my memory

Oh no...

[bold dove]

I can't erase them.....

[solemn linden]

Wait but if those are the powers that they used against Jamie...

Poor Jamie didn't deserve this ;-;

[lyric tendon]

that would require black pearls

[tender wasp]

Otters in real life are actually real bastards and not very nice ^^

[bold dove]

So....like Otters?

[solemn linden]

Yeah. I had tried to wipe that from my memory lmao

[tender wasp]

Lool

[glad oak]

But they arnt as bad as dolphins atleast

[solemn linden]

I certainly hope that those specific traits weren't what you meant by "evil otter powers" because if they were I feel very sorry for you

[glad oak]

Why are the things people think are friendly always the most evil

[tender wasp]

Oh I think they are quite equal

Cause otters look cute

[tender wasp]

Nah not that kind of powers. Otterly powers not otter powers ^^

[solemn linden]

Oh good. That's a relief!

[tender wasp]

[sick canyon]

So are dolphins

Anyway, otters are pog.
change my mind

[sharp tide]

maewings and owls are better

[jagged bear]

owls idk maewings are a close second

[fallow sapphire]

Maewings take top

[bronze turtle]

im watching star wars episode iii and the rock drake seems like it was very inspired by the lizard obi wan rides in one of the scenes

one of the homo deus or whoever that implements dinos is still a star wars fan, sneaking stuff like that and the tek strider in

arguing with the other homo deus: "no its not an AT-AT, its a...uh robot giraffe"

[lyric tendon]

The stryder isn't Tek at first when it was a concept in ext

[bronze turtle]

dang what was it supposed to be

[lyric tendon]

Also Vin made the stryder

[lyric tendon]

Some skinny asse giraffe

[bronze turtle]

thats stupid as hell

glad they upgraded it

[lyric tendon]

There is no Homo Deus in Gen as the Genesis Ship is not an ARK

[brazen sparrow]

We don't know that there isn't homo deus on the Genesis ship with 100% certainty

They could be the master ai in the simulation for all we know

[lyric tendon]

Master AI are different from Homo Deus, they are literally AI, not a mass made of human consciousness

Plus the Gen Ship is already manned unlike in the ARKs is all automatic

[brazen sparrow]

How do you know? Did you write the Gen 1 lore? It isn't stated what the master ai are, other than master ai, whatever that means, plus homo deus become data quite literally so it isn't a far stretch to say they might be, just like the overseer on the Island

Also the Genesis ship is totally automated wdym

[lyric tendon]

What part in the Gen 1 or Gen 2 notes state there is an Homo Deus?

Plz point that out to me

[brazen sparrow]

There's not one living person on the ship when we get there

[lyric tendon]

Uma, Nida, and even an evidence of mentioning the crew exists

[tender wasp]

Cause Rockwell killed them all and took the wheel

[lyric tendon]

I was gonna say that lol

[brazen sparrow]

It doesn't but there isn't anything saying they aren't

So just saying they aren't is unjustified

[lyric tendon]

It's like you are pushing a fan fiction to an established lore lol

[brazen sparrow]

Because you have no idea

[brazen sparrow]

No, I'm saying it's wrong to tell someone your fanfiction, where there's 0 homo deus on the Genesis ship, when there's no evidence to either it being true or not

[brazen sparrow]

Literally right here you say there is NONE which is not 100% confirmed to be true or not

So it shouldn't be stated as fact

[tender wasp]

Actually I am pretty sure the ship only had Transhumans and the AI were simply AI's not Homo Deus cause on Abs Rockwell could not do a thing against the Homo Deus AI

[lyric tendon]

It's the whole argument of the Russel's space tea cup

He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong

[brazen sparrow]

I'm glad you pulled out the philosophy textbook but it's not the same thing, nether point can be proven so neither is true

[brazen sparrow]

Where is that part? I don't remember that at all

[lyric tendon]

Because for me it is what is written in the notes

No one ever mentioned Homo Deus exist in the ship, just the mentioning one about the ARKs and HLN-A's origin in Nida's note

[tender wasp]

And Abs is controlling rockwell forcing him to be the new "Endboss" and he can't escape until it ends up on earth which broke it to a point he can escape

[brazen sparrow]

Again, where is that? I do not remember that being stated in the notes

I don't want some drawn out explanation, just the notes to do my own research lol

[lyric tendon]

You don't even need a note for that one, you just stitch out the already evident clues like

Why is there no Guardian?

Why is there no Overseer? and

Why we go through the artificial rings to "ascend" down to earth?

Also How is Ab not fully crumbled by vaccum yet?

[tender wasp]

Also if Rockwell had his own will, there would be no need to respawn again and again on the Ark and gets his ass whiped.. he simply could have used the rings to go earth

[brazen sparrow]

Because that's how lore works? You need it to be said or it didn't happen? So yeah, you do need a note for that

I can use emojis too lol if it isn't in a note it didn't happen byeeeeeeeeeeeee

[lyric tendon]

There is already visual proof unlike your "Homo Deus controlling the Gen Ship" theory

Not everything needs to be in a written note all the time

Visual Storytelling exists bob

[tender wasp]

Nah you now.. visual story telling is not in the notes.. so it is not valid for them.

[lyric tendon]

Basically

[tender wasp]

Same as environmental story telling I guess.

[lyric tendon]

I like your funny words, magic man

[small rune]

[brazen sparrow]

Not the channel bud, try #735196255483068497

[solemn linden]

It seems very unlikely that the Terran Federation would have willingly allowed a homo deus onto the colony ship so we can likely rule out the idea of one being a master AI in the simulation. One of the key factors in the war between the Terran Federation and the United Republic of Earth was just that the URE wanted to upgrade themselves and become transhuman (homo deus), while the Terran Federation were pretty clearly against that.

[solemn linden]

Nida's notes make it clear that those living on the colony ship have been taught that homo deus are a very bad thing. Here's part of one of her notes:

"We'd been raised to believe that people had barely escaped an Earth overrun by transhumanism and Element pollution.
It seemed logical to assume the AI I'd found embedded in our simulation engine by a transhuman entity would try to sabotage our mission."

If her first reaction to the fact that a homo deus had left HLN-A on the ship was to assume that that homo deus was trying to sabotage their mission, then it's pretty clear that they crew of the colony ship and the Terran Federation as a whole likely weren't very big on the idea of homo deus.

Though to be fair she did also make that assumption based on the fact that one of the rings was being messed with by Rockwell and she just assumed it was the homo deus doing it, but still, that makes the level of distrust pretty clear.

While they clearly wouldn't let a homo deus on board willingly, the Terran Federation did share knowledge and resources with the URE while the ARKs and colony ship were under construction so it's possible a homo deus could have snuck aboard at some point (I know Helena did, but she was only there temporarily), but if they did they would have to have done a really good job at remaining hidden.

[solemn linden]

It seems unlikely that there are any Homo Deus on the colony ship and the stryders were created by Santiago in the lore and were supposedly based off of something that he referred to as a "giant pleistocene horse" (not sure what animal he means by that). Other than that though you seem to be largely correct lmao - like the Overseers on the ARKs made not only wyverns taken straight from mythology but also literal xenomorphs from the alien movies (reapers), so it seems entirely possible that they are just huge pop culture fans pumping out creatures from their favourite movies. It would also explain why so many of the dinosaurs look the same way that they did in Jurassic Park rather than being more realistic. Overseers are nerds confirmed! (I know it's actually just the devs but still, may as well pretend it's canon lmao)

[bronze turtle]

Yeah they were clearly Jurassic Park fans too with the Dilophosaurs lol

[solemn linden]

Yeah haha

[lyric tendon]

"giant pleistocene horse"

i think it's a racer

[solemn linden]

If you mean a paracer, I thought so too but not only are those not horses (although horses and rhinos do share a common ancestor so it's not too inaccurate), but upon looking it up everything I'm finding is saying that they did not live during the pleistocene. Could just be Santiago not really having much knowledge of extinct animals though.

[lyric tendon]

he is no helena tbh

even the real Santiago dont really have that paleo knowledge

[solemn linden]

True. He probably did mean a paracer but just got the facts about it a little wrong. I mean Gen 2 Santiago doesn't have Helena around to correct him lmao

[dawn stirrup]

So I have a question

[glad oak]

Ask away

[bold dove]

Yes

[dawn stirrup]

There’s a lot of arks right

Hundreds or so?

[bold dove]

More or less, yeah.

[dawn stirrup]

Does this mean that the non-story maps could technically be canon? As in they exist but the story just doesn’t end up taking the characters to those locations?

[glad oak]

Theoretically

But there in some inconsistencies of some of then. That kinda mess with that iirc

[pseudo nimbus]

Lost island and fjorder can't because of r variants and maewings

[dawn stirrup]

Well that’s sad

But center rag val and ci?

[solemn linden]

Ragnarok fits with what ARKs are like canonically. Valugero, Lost Island and The Center have areas that press right up against the border but don't have any dangerous creatures or anything guarding the border so they don't really fit (Scorched Earth's explorer notes established that the ocean on the island is there to act as a natural barrier to prevent people from reaching the border. Scorched Earth does this with it's deathworms). Crystal Isles is a maybe since it's way more fantasy based but theoretically all of it's magic elements could just be really advanced technology. Still unlikely though. Fjordur has multiple realms that can be visited and is very heavy on the fantasy elements so it doesn't fit at all.

[dawn stirrup]

Sad that deinons aren’t canon

[solemn linden]

Basically only Ragnarok matches what we canonically know about the ARKs, whereas the others would be a bit more of a stretch (some are still possible though).

[solemn linden]

Deinonychus appear in the survive the ark mission on Gen 2 so they at the very least are canon in the simulation and likely exist on an ARK somewhere out there.

[bold dove]

Theoretically.
But the older writer said other wise.
So, unless confirmed. They're basically non-canon

[dawn stirrup]

☹️

[pseudo nimbus]

Crystal wyvern were also in there

[solemn linden]

There is potential for deinonychus to appear in ARK 2 since there is a very large amount of the colony ship that we haven't seen yet and we know that deinonychus exists to some extent canonically due to it's appearance in the simulation.

[dawn stirrup]

There is yet hope!

[solemn linden]

Yeah basically every creature from the non-canon maps, except Lost Island and Fjordur since they released after Gen 2, appear in the simulation during that mission.

[dawn stirrup]

What would you say are the five most important creatures in the story?

[pseudo nimbus]

Raptor

Forest titan, ice titan, desert titan, king titan

[solemn linden]

raptor, giga, wyvern, king titan (assuming bosses count) and... honestly there are a lot that are quite important so I dunno.

deathworms were also pretty important in the story.

[pseudo nimbus]

Reaper and drakes were more important

Corrupted everything

[dawn stirrup]

If five isnt enough then just name the however many you think

[pseudo nimbus]

Summoner, shadowmane, strider, noglin

[solemn linden]

well the raptor was very important to Mei, the giga was really important for it's role on the island, wyverns were massively important for setting up how the overseers work in the scorched earth notes, the king titan was important for obvious reasons and deathworms were important in how they were used to establish the concept of natural boundaries on the ARKs

Reapers and drakes were also massively important in the Aberration notes and the styders were very important in Gen 2's notes

There's just a lot of important ones in the story

[pseudo nimbus]

And Nina died to a noglin

[solemn linden]

pretty sure that was Gabriel

We don't know Nida's fate

[pseudo nimbus]

Oh right thanks

Shadowmanes were the most important part of Rockwell plan

[solemn linden]

True, they were very important

[pseudo nimbus]

And idk about summoner but I assume they were important

[merry cipher]

General is giving me brain damage so I'm here now.

[bold dove]

Wanna pass me the corn?

[merry cipher]

🍿

[bold dove]

Nah, i mean 'the corn'

🌽

I'm going to eat a raw corn on the cob.

[merry cipher]

Im going to eat a raw gallon of gasoline

[bold dove]

Wouldn't that just be oil then?

[merry cipher]

Yeah I slurp it from the ground

[bold dove]

Don't we all?

[solemn linden]

the forbidden sauce

[brazen sparrow]

I was pretty sure that the whole border thing was confirmed in the Island notes, iirc. Or maybe I'm misremembering but I swear she touched on it in the notes where she talks about megalodons and possibly their dossier as well

[bronze turtle]

It is.

[tender wasp]

It was on Abs. Diana finds the border. At least there it is in the notes for sure.

I do not know about the dossiers so.

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, so I'm re-reading through the Island notes and I was wrong, I think (still haven't finished yet, but the part about the megs has come and gone, nothing about the border, but maybe it's later? idk)

[lyric tendon]

No, originally Rag is supposed to have explorer notes but decided to not add them

There is a reason why the free ones (aside from Island) are not called "Story Maps" in SP menu

[lyric tendon]

In Ab under Diana, she saw the border personality and physically

[solemn linden]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that this is the first note that mentions it:

“As absurd as the Death Worms are, I see their purpose. They are a natural barrier.

If this whole place is a space station posing as a real ecosystem, then it needs to keep the wildlife and humans inside it contained in a way that appears natural. The island accomplished that by simply being an island, and the desert does it via the Death Worms.

Granted, a large population of predators with ludicrous kilocalorie needs would never last long in a place as devoid of prey, but as this is an artificial environment, the station can feed or, replace the Death Worms as needed. It's a little convoluted, but it makes sense.”

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, I did remember that part, just wasn't sure until I read all the notes over again that she didn't at least mention it earlier. The only thing that even eludes to her knowing there's a barrier (in the Island notes) is like the last note where she sees the Island for all it really is in the tek cave 😅

That Scorched note is definitely the one I'd say that cements the world barriers in the lore in writing though, to be sure

[brazen sparrow]

Also, I just have to touch on this, there was never explorer notes planned for Rag, no idea where this came from tbh

[lyric tendon]

Ab already does that

SE only mentioned the deathworms as "barriers" not the actual barriers like in AB

[brazen sparrow]

SE is before Ab...

[solemn linden]

Yeah. My original point had been less about the force field part of the barrier and more about how the using creatures or oceans as a natural barrier thing didn't really apply to the non-canon maps due to multiple of them pressing right up against the force field but not having any natural barrier preventing people from reaching it.

[solemn linden]

Thus meaning that the non-canon maps cannot really be considered ARKs since they don't work the same way

[lyric tendon]

fuckk my editing

[solemn linden]

I think the confusion here has arisen from the fact that I was originally talking about the deathworms as a natural barrier thing, while you guys seem to also be focusing a lot more on the forcefield part itself. The natural barriers were first mentioned on Scorched, whereas the forcefields were alluded to in the Island notes but none of the characters interacted with them in any way until Aberration.

[brazen sparrow]

In the above explorer note text from Quantum, Helena defines the Arks as artificial ecosystems (because she does know about the barrier, when she ascends from The Island to Scorched, as seen in the last Island note) and then explains the smoke and mirrors that attempt to conceal that fact from the inhabitants (the 'natural barriers' aka creatures). I think that's pretty cut and dry myself but idk

[lyric tendon]

"Natural Barrier" is just a proxy or an illusion of a "barrier" compared to already described in AB

[brazen sparrow]

But yes, there is no physical interaction with the actual barrier until Diana crashes into it in Ab

[lyric tendon]

in Helena's Island note, she only draw a flat island without the pillars of the ARKs that hold it

[glad oak]

Also the barrier was mentioned in mei yins island notes iirc

[drifting basin]

Rockwell tentacle boogaloo

[feral phoenix]

I believe that element is going to do the same thing it did to Rockwell to someone else. My main reason for this being: there is no proof that element does not exist or has been destroyed. Chances are it still exists, but most likely in a weakened state.

[bold dove]

Rockwell did all of that to himself

[feral phoenix]

exactly

[bold dove]

And element isn't destroyed.

[feral phoenix]

someone is going to find the potential of Element, get curious, then give themselves a god complex

[bold dove]

All of those planets we go to that have element dust and shards on them on Genesis-2?

[feral phoenix]

not all of them, but a few of them

[bold dove]

That'd just be repeating the same concept, and i'd hate that.

[feral phoenix]

yeah

[bold dove]

No shit.
Point is. It 'is' confirmed that element is still around.

[feral phoenix]

alr

[bronze turtle]

I think polymer acts as a strong deodorant. That's why the ghillie uses it as well as soap.

Or perhaps it conducts heat well and thats why the ghillie uses it, like a radiator weaved in

Otherwise the Ghillie needing it makes no sense.

[bold dove]

'Oooor'
It is as it is in real life, and is a binding agent for the grass to stay on.
And the reason why they can't see you, is cause of 'camouflage'

[merry cipher]

The entire point of a ghillie suit is to blend in with plants and trees. The polymer, as Bootleg said, is a binding agent. Idk where you got the scent thing from.

[lyric tendon]

i remember that just now after i watched the supercut

[lyric tendon]

or Polymer is literally just plastic IRL

there is a reason why Ghille doesnt require thatch lol

[bold dove]

Plastic is a binding substance is real life, depending on how melted it is.

[hasty creek]

Ye

[bronze turtle]

there's no need for a polymer binding agent, ghillie irl is made with string netting and strips of fabric with vegetation weaved in

so no not actually like real life

[brazen sparrow]

There's various types of ghillie suits irl so it is inaccurate to assume they are all made the same way

[rain dock]

Uh, usually it is safe to assume that legit ghillie suits are made that way jaja

[sand spear]

Anyone know why modern creatures like hippos ain’t in the arks

But humans and prehistoric creatures are?

[pseudo nimbus]

Overseers lost emotions

[warped herald]

Quite simple while doing simulations with modern animals and prehistoric ones, they found out humans and prehistoric life worked out way better then modern ones

[sand spear]

Kinda weird but makes sense

We do have experience with ice age and Stone Age creatures

More than those now

So what happened to all the normal life on earth, we don’t see any normal animals in extinction

[warped herald]

You say that but irl we made most of them extinct

[sand spear]

Yeah

But most were due to climate change

Like mammoths

[warped herald]

Extinction of modern animals or they evolved, like the snow owls, or gachas

[brazen sparrow]

It also just made sense logistically as all life on Earth evolved from those things (and would again, probably)

[sand spear]

Hmm, why can’t you remove corruption from king titan but you can from the others

[brazen sparrow]

Gameplay reasons lol

[sand spear]

When were the arks created

[brazen sparrow]

The same time as the Genesis ship, around the 24th century iirc

[bold dove]

Nah, there's a reason

[sand spear]

I used to think all others were protectors of earth but that doesn’t make much sense

[brazen sparrow]

Really? I'm interested, I musta forgot this one 🍿

[bold dove]

The base-titans are created purely to follow commands, and the nodes are their signal to the King-Titan.
The King-Titan 'is' element. Making him his own entity, and its own being that can't be controlled.
This was in Marcs reddit post.

[brazen sparrow]

Ah, that explains it. Reddit. I despise reddit lol. Makes sense though

[sand spear]

Who made the king titan

Rockwell?

[warped herald]

An element war made the king titan

@sand spear some of us were talking about it in march and i think would answer your question

[sand spear]

K, thanks

Hmm, but why do some of the arks have creatures like wveryns and reapers

And drakes

[warped herald]

To test the survival rates and the survivors willpower to overcome any odds

[sand spear]

K

So what happens once you ascend, where you go

[warped herald]

Well lore wise the overseers send the survivors to the next ark to test them all over again, but the overseers dont think we can get rid of the element on earth so they keep "increasing the difficulty" by sending you to tougher arks. Thats why in aberration they nuked the overseer on that ark and making the portal to get to earth for extinction

[sand spear]

Hmm, why does Rockwell require tributes

But not on other maps

[warped herald]

Cause he became the new overseer on aberration

[bold dove]

That's gameplay

Bosses in-canon only need artifacts, and there's only the one difficulty (obviously)
And bosses drop keys canonically, not their heads to open the tek-cave

[tired stream]

Makes me wonder what would of been after ab if they didn’t nuke it

Okay so I’m trying to learn more of the lore of the game and I watched neddys new island video thing and I’m wondering if someone could maybe DM me a video for the lore of the other maps like schorched and ab

[pseudo nimbus]

'What if we nuked every single ark and built an earth teleporter'

[bold dove]

He also has videos of Scorched

[tired stream]

Yeah I tried searching for some and found nothing for ab so I guess I just have to wait

[lyric tendon]

We are still working on Ab

[pseudo nimbus]

Wdym "we"

[lyric tendon]

The people who are Body Acting like me and @bold dove

[pseudo nimbus]

Jit you body act? For who?

[lyric tendon]

Plus Ned as the Director

[bold dove]

I play as Newbie for the pre-destruction sections.
But i'll play as Rockwell in the other parts, like i've been doing since the first Rockwell video.

[pseudo nimbus]

brain freezes faster than jotunheim

I was talking to mazda

[bold dove]

Didn't ask

Now you know how i feel.

[lyric tendon]

I body act as side characters, dinosaurs, and the advisor to his editing

The one in the movie that introduce the voice actors is my first time body act Helena

[pseudo nimbus]

Animal lover

[bold dove]

I've beat a baby to death. 👀
Now, if that's in the project, ARK, or something else. Is up to you to decide.

[lyric tendon]

what happened to the SE baby?

[pseudo nimbus]

[bold dove]

You don't wanna know.

[pseudo nimbus]

It became an ||imposter among us||

[tired stream]

Sus?

[pseudo nimbus]

Lore has it that bootleg made the devs add the cat emoji

[bold dove]

Nah, they added it cause they too have the same reaction that i have with 99% of the people here.

[lyric tendon]

basically

[ornate hull]

Rivers in Rockwells meat biome are just piss and shit

Thanks for comeing to my Ted talk

[brazen sparrow]

You know, this really didn't have to be said. My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day has been ruined. /j

[solemn linden]

Oh that's not even the worst part. He's got to be eating something for all that shit to exist.
This is the true fate of all your missing tames, as well as those that perished in the bossfight.

[terse kelp]

what order do the maps go in?

[glad crow]

Island, Scorched, Abberration, Extinction, Gen 1, Gen 2.

[lyric tendon]

Island > SE > Ab > Ext

Gen 1 and 2 are optional

[terse kelp]

to unlock them am i able to play on a single player and beat the boss then unlock the next map or does it haft to be on like a multiplayer server?

[lyric tendon]

yooo sk8!!!

[fallow sapphire]

Hello there

[lyric tendon]

been long time

[fallow sapphire]

Been a hot minute

Didn’t expect to see this place so active

[lyric tendon]

because ARK was free

[fallow sapphire]

Ah, thats fair

[glad crow]

You could go beat each map and go to the next, but you can start anywhere in the chain and transfer to any map.

[lyric tendon]

depends if you want uninterrupted gameplay

MP makes things easier but depends if you choose PVP, PVE, or both

[fallow sapphire]

I come back for like 5 minutes and already I want to do an ascension line again

[dawn stirrup]

What if rock drakes are mutated deinonychus

[brazen sparrow]

I mean, they are an amalgam of various species, dein could be in there possibly

[tired stream]

I always think reapers are just mutated rexs

[glad crow]

Well, ravagers are certainly direwolves.

[tired stream]

Rat dogs

[rigid palm]

But why is it called veggies

[bold dove]

Based off of a meme that a cat just wants to eat his veggies, while being yelled at.

[rigid palm]

Ah

[misty crest]

Your not wrong I imagine the smell is horrendous

[bronze turtle]

Or body fluids

For all we know it could be stomach acid

[hasty creek]

Or...

😏

[pseudo nimbus]

[brazen sparrow]

[hasty creek]

On topic guys

[solemn linden]

But Rockwell's fluids are a very important part of the lore lmao

[hasty creek]

Not these ones

These are the naughty fluids

[solemn linden]

Considering he has a sentient genocidal space rock flowing through his veins, I doubt there is a single fluid in Rockwell's body that isn't in some way "naughty", though yeah I guess those fluids are naughty in a different way

[hasty creek]

How do u think we get r-reapers

[solemn linden]

👀

[pseudo nimbus]

[hasty creek]

This is the side of ark we dont talk about

[pseudo nimbus]

Wait is flyer dismount in caves canon? Because if so why didn't they cheese the caves with an argy

[brazen sparrow]

I don't think it is, otherwise Helena would've just ponied up with Athena and got em all

[pseudo nimbus]

So it isnt?

I think the main issue for them would be finding the caves, I can only imagine how shitty the ones underwater were to get

[jolly gate]

I got a question what would happened if a surviver snorted a line of element dust?

[pseudo nimbus]

[jolly gate]

What would happen if they inhale element dust.

[brazen sparrow]

Well, if you make a custom recipe with 1 element dust in it, it enhances all of the aspects of said recipe... so I think it's basically MSG? Jk lmao idk probably death would ensue or something

[jolly gate]

I think survivers will get so high they die.

[forest geyser]

do you want another Rockwell? Because this is how you get another Rockwell

[solemn linden]

Rockwell had the right idea

[glad crow]

Honestly, he outlasted everyone else, I'd say he was the best survivor.

[brazen sparrow]

You know, you have a very good point

[lyric tendon]

unless Bob going from ext to gen is canon

[brazen sparrow]

True, I guess we'll have to wait and see

[glad crow]

Well, he was there before us, he did survive longer.

[lyric tendon]

fair

[forest geyser]

and he survived the time period where there was no respawns

how many of us could go from island to Gen 2 hardcore/no respawns

[lyric tendon]

i mean he knows a thing of two about tribe politics and smooth talk his way to the overseer

not to mention it's possible to just do nothing in the overseer arena

[analog zenith]

People who are those doing the 100 days hardcore series

[lyric tendon]

i do managed to survive Natrual Causes' multiplayer hardcore until the admins forced us to PVP in the middle of diplomacy and spawned a lvl 10k giga

[tired stream]

I feel like a lot of people could if there wasn’t so many glitches that can get you killed.

I simply die to getting stuck or falling through the map way more then I do by actual Dino’s

Sometimes I wake up and I’m just dead with my body in the ground, happened this morning to me

[glad crow]

Then, could it be done without breeding? Without all our knowledge, the wiki and YouTube? In the body of a frail old man?

[tired stream]

No one is ever gonna be able to buy the game and do that. Except bob of course cause he solos

[glad crow]

Do you get my point though?

[tender wasp]

I would gladly have played hard mode without all the bugs and clitches that were the main reasons that killed me most of the time.

[lyric tendon]

pretty much sums up day 1

[analog zenith]

Well the only times I die is from lack of knowledge of strength, poor leveling, not being on a mount or bugs/ bad physics.

[tired stream]

Exactly lol

I never die to legit good reasons it’s always something I have no control over

Situations where there is nothing I could of done to stop from dying and is a glitch

[tender wasp]

Yeah same. Only time I died legit a lot is when I had no clue of Abs and it was new ^^

[storm estuary]

C R A S H V2#9855 schreib dem mal der ist ein mate und spielt bestimmt mit dir

[tired stream]

We have all been there lmao

Schorched was worse when it came to dying off spawn when it came out tho

I remember when they had to literally reduce the spawn of some Dino’s so you wouldn’t be obliterated 2 seconds in by wolves and raptors

[glad crow]

I found scorched quite easy, perhaps I was lucky?

[vale sluice]

There's lore in ark?

[glad crow]

Yes, quite a lot of it.

[lyric tendon]

There is a movie for the Island so far

[sick canyon]

Hehe...

[solemn linden]

There is a lot of it and it is actually really high quality for a survival game. A lot of people don't seem to notice it because the explorer notes are easy to miss or ignore and they aren't present on all maps.

[tired stream]

That’s why I’m hoping they do something that pretty much let’s most people know key parts of the story in ark 2 rather then only like 40% of players knowing the lore because they decided to look into it themselves

[sick canyon]

Yeah I don't think they should tell the whole story though just explorer notes again
Although It would be nice to see some kind of explorer note collectibles in ark ll
And maybe some notes could give you small gear components (spear heads, knife handles, etc, etc) that tie into the story

[tired stream]

If they did do notes I don’t think they should give any type of reward, even XP because it gets annoying when you can’t build up notes on a character because of a base that’s in the way.

Instead they should just have them as a collectible item that you permanently keep on any character you make. So if you wanna get them then get them, if not then don’t
And if a base is in the way, just get it in singleplayer

But they could give like achievements that give skins again because skins don’t do anything

[solemn linden]

They could tell the main story entirely through gameplay but have interesting lore information included in notes. Like the notes could give info about certain items and creatures and provide a little bit of additional context for what is going on, while not being crucial to understanding the main story.

While Helena obviously isn't going to be there to make them, I'd like to see the dossiers return in some way. They were an iconic aspect of ARK 1 and Gen 1 and 2 felt like they were missing something without them. Could have it so the dossiers in ARK 2 are written by the protagonist and additional info is added to them as you learn about a creature. I dunno

[tired stream]

You get half the dossier by killing the animal, then you get the next page by taming it

Just off the top of my head so it could sound dumb but idk

I do remember tho when dossiers worked kinda like that, you had to tame the Dino to get it and if it was not tameable you would have to kill it

[tender wasp]

Would be neat when the “dossiers” would fill slowly, a journal of your own survivor.. with descriptions and art, same with maybe vantage points or if they discover a new weapon, building, plant, etc

You could give achievements for a full one and skins, tattoes, hairstyles for it (simple comsetics)

[tired stream]

I hope they do add more survivor customization that isn’t the creation menu, like you said tattoos could be cool and more hairstyles and even war paint that stays

[tender wasp]

Would even be a nice add if you at least could change hair, beard and tattoos later ingame.

[tired stream]

I just wish there were more options for hair in ark 1

[fallow sapphire]

Dont we all?

[tired stream]

I mean there’s a mod for it

[lyric tendon]

why is this gave me Pokemon legends vibes?

[tender wasp]

I don’t know that even lol

[lyric tendon]

in that game you have to do a certain task to gain information about the Pokemon

[tender wasp]

WOuld be fun to get dossiers by observing the dinos, tracking them down, a bit like in MH

[arctic bison]

or like in the beginning of ark after you tame or kill them

[sharp tide]

[desert patrol]

Theory feroxs are used as vessels for element

Making them similar to titans

[warped herald]

Kinda dont believe that cause were supposed to be just simulation creatures

[solemn linden]

To be fair, they do exist outside of the simulation. The problem is that the only place they physically exist is on the Eden ring of the colony ship and I severely doubt that the Terran Federation would have put something like that on their ship intentionally.

[warped herald]

True but what kyubi said that is so wrong what a ferox is

[solemn linden]

Yeah, it doesn't make much sense.

[desert patrol]

I know but hear me out

We have similar creatures like nogglins

Titans

And such

It wouldnt be a suprise if this was another creature made by the people of earth on ark

After all elemeant does have a hivemind

Whose to say it didnt make feroxs

Im stretching it

[warped herald]

True but element to ferox is like a drug too them and that why they get addicted to it, so it wasnt made from element but rather it was made to eat element

[tender wasp]

Only that titans and noglings never were made by people on earth for the ship, etc. Titans are a manifestation of element, made by element itself and Noglings are a creation of Rockwell.

[bold dove]

Well, also the Extinction creatures

[solemn linden]

Which, when it comes to the ones that aren't on the corrupted ring, appear to have the element in their bodies either entirely removed (in the case of the R-gasbags, which no longer have the blue glow) or reduced to an extent (in the case of the R-snow owls, whose element glows far less bright than their extinction counterparts).

[bold dove]

Right.
But my point was that the Extinction creatures weren't artificially made

[solemn linden]

Oh, I thought you were talking about how they are also element infused like the titans and noglins. Don't know how I misinterpreted that - guess I'm just tired lmao. Yeah, they weren't artificially created (from what we know). No explanation as to how a species that evolved on Earth after the colony ship left ended up on the colony ship though, which makes their origins a little more confusing.

[pseudo nimbus]

Just came in here

Yall saying the ferox is 100% artificial?

[solemn linden]

Well we don't really know for certain but it's a strong possibility. They only seem to exist in the simulation and on the colony ship and they just so happen to be able to consume element without getting corrupted by it (I know they hulk out, but that is temporary and they don't fall under the control of it's hivemind). It's possible they were altered or designed to be able to consume element as a way to deal with it's presence on the ship, similar to how the stryders are designed to cleanse it from the soil.

[pseudo nimbus]

Well it's not like all things that consume element become a hivemind

[solemn linden]

True, the gachas eat it no problem. Just seems a little strange that the feroxes are the only creature that is capable of reversing an element induced mutation. Like they get larger and more aggressive (similar to what happened to Rockwell) but then just return to normal after a while.

[pseudo nimbus]

The element probably depletes from the bloodstream, thus reducing the high

[solemn linden]

That could explain it. I mean Rockwell was sitting in a pool of element on Aberration, thus ensuring a continual dosage and on Gen 2 he was literally converting the element in the walls of the colony ship into more of himself, thus continually adding additional element to himself. Still seems a little weird that the mutations caused by element would just be able to magically reverse. Like imagine your DNA getting entirely rewritten but then just fixing itself.

[pseudo nimbus]

Still the question on extinction creatures getting constant dosage, but they could be different from ferox where the element isn't used the same way the ferox uses it.

The ferox ingests the element where as ext creatures have part of their body as element

Since there's so much element in the air that a titan can poof into existence then how did we not die from going outside of the sanctuary?

[oblique creek]

Possibly the implant injecting small amounts of element to where we are immune to it?

[tired stream]

We are not immune to it whatsoever

[lyric tendon]

it's like pure snake venom, you will be fine by just eating it but not when injected in to your body

[glad crow]

Rockwell presumably had an implant of identical design, and he most definitely was not immune.

[tender wasp]

He injected that shit directly into his veins

[lyric tendon]

this made me think the corrupted creature are not corrupted naturally like the ext exclusives but rather corrupted when they just spawned in by one of the highjacked obelisks

more apparent in Gen 2 when rockwell does the same thing except we managed to stop him from corrupting the data banks

[digital flower]

How would you guys feel if Rockwell returned in a redemption arc type way?

om ARK 2 or do you think he should be just be over and done with or would you want him to see redeem himself some way or another

[scenic turtle]

Wasn't he reduced to nothing from that explosion?

[digital flower]

Yeah but the ship still stores people's engrammatic matrix's similar to the arks

[scenic turtle]

Interesting.

[digital flower]

also I wouldn't be odd for Rockwell to upload his memories into his version of the matrix or body on the ship inside those pods since he has the ability to do so since he can be cunning

or at least another version of himself who has hallucinations or nightmare's about what his past self had did?

I was just thinking about it because I was reading some fan made notes about that by Veluko and thought it would be interesting if other survivors like Santiago had made a return to ARK 2 but with different memories

[tired stream]

n o

Please… just leave Rockwell out of ark 2, we have fought him enough times

[lyric tendon]

Same

[tired stream]

I could see Helena or any other character being back as a clone but just not Rockwell please lol

[lyric tendon]

Rockwell already (botchfully) cloned himself many times in the boss arena anyways, how else all you see in that walls are his faces

At that point his clone is far gone

[digital flower]

I know I agree with that I just thought the fan notes were interesting so I wanted to see what others thought

[tender wasp]

Theoretically it would be possible for Rockwell to come back. He could have made a backup, etc or not even touched his original clone.. etc. If they really wanted to, they could pull that.. if it would be for the better or worse would be on people to decide.

[lyric tendon]

Or just leave that as a plot holes like everything else in ARK lore

[digital flower]

Sshh we don't talk about the plot holes like how did we or rockwell get on the ship

[digital flower]

I feel like it would be fine if they did it well but I still wouldn't want to see it happen

Big maybe with other survivors like mei-yin or Diana

But definitely not rockwell, nerva or helena

[lyric tendon]

Nerva, and Helena is possible since only the ARK clone gets perma'd

But not Rockwell, he probably used his clone to kick start his proliferation hence the same heads in the wall of Terminus

[digital flower]

Yeah but I wouldn't want to see Helena or Nerva either

Nerva works as a side villain and it would ruin the hehe funny death

Also now that I think about it Scorched earth is the only map where its people didn't destroy each other like the new legion and other tribes on the island

Sure there was raiders and bandits and the like

But eventually the people on that ark built a community and shit only for the overseer to be the one to destroy it all

[tender wasp]

“They like each other ! This cannot beee !!!” destroy

To be honest, they at least should leave the other survivors rest in peace.

[digital flower]

I'd say not all or maybe bring back some of the minor survivors like Kazuma

[tired stream]

This server needs a unpopular ark opinions channel

[digital flower]

Unpopular opinion as much as people say the game is bad, they actually love it

[glad crow]

That's why they're here is it not?

[forest geyser]

super tiny grammar thing but the plural of matrix is matrices

[digital flower]

that has a plural?

[forest geyser]

yeah

like I said, super tiny thing, more my autism acting up than anything actually being wrong

[lyric tendon]

that's a popular opinion

the unpopular opinion is "i like ark"

[tired stream]

No one hates Ark more then ark players

[lyric tendon]

basically

[forest geyser]

so does it follow that nobody gets to hate Ark except Ark players?

[lyric tendon]

ARK players have a very justifiable reason to hate ARK yet still playing ARK anyways

it's a standard of "hating ARK" tbh like

"if you hate ARK so much, name 5 creatures you died to"

[tired stream]

Glitches*

[lyric tendon]

both

[tired stream]

I can’t even remember the last 5 things I died too other then glitches

And myself

[lyric tendon]

i rarely died to a glitch but mostly dinos and myself

but i do died to both a glitch and dino at the same time

[tired stream]

I died fighting a giga like a week ago and that’s all I can remember

[lyric tendon]

i died from me discovering a teleport glitch in Rag and end up getting ganged by allos

[brazen sparrow]

That's explained, but very poorly, or at least not obviously enough. I can go into it unless you'd like to do your own research

[solemn linden]

Haven't really died to a glitch, but I've been saved by one before. There was one time on Scorched Earth where a rock elemental was about to destroy my thatch hut but then the game crashed and my last save was a couple minutes earlier lmao. What sucks though is when I take some items out of an obelisk but then the game crashes and the save is before I took them out of the obelisk but for some reason they aren't in the obelisk anymore.

[lyric tendon]

the thing is we dont see key arts, spin-offs, and trailers as canon yet there are some possible canonical drops here and there unless it is related to the game lore

like Skye and ARK Park for example

[brazen sparrow]

Like the Genesis reveal stream, where there's some juicy (and important) lore to be had

[digital flower]

Skye?

[lyric tendon]

the reveal stream counts as a trailer, it doesnt referenced the "mega transmitter" in any note unless the thing we constantly spawn in is the transmitter itself but it remained unnamed for no reason

[lyric tendon]

grad students

[digital flower]

ah

I haven't read much about the grad students

all I understand about them is psychological suffering from Rockwell

like it was some horror movie from the 90s for them

[lyric tendon]

basically sideline story version of Gabriel

i am so urge Ned to amp up the horror after we are done with Ab lol

[digital flower]

at least with the grad students he won't have to remake Abb

[lyric tendon]

just Grad Students: the Movie

starting Vin Diesel as Santiago

[solemn linden]

You're missing out. Skye only has one explorer note and it is one of the funniest in the game, especially because of the environmental storytelling of where you find it.

[oblique creek]

Does anybody know the creator of the ARKs and the implants?

[brazen sparrow]

I liked the grad students, and their whole role in the universe at large. Would be interesting to see where they came from/how they got to Ab at some point, maybe in the show

[brazen sparrow]

Do you want the full spoiler or just a hint?

[oblique creek]

Hint

[brazen sparrow]

It might be closer than you think, and it will certainly shock you (at least the first time). That and the main explorer notes of Aberration and Extinction in particular will be very helpful in finding out.

[oblique creek]

If only I could read cursive

[brazen sparrow]

You can turn the subtitles on for the explorer notes, I don't remember what it is for pc but on Xbox it's Y I believe

Or X

[oblique creek]

Do you play xbox?

[brazen sparrow]

One of the two lol

Yeah, primarily

[oblique creek]

same

Wait it was the homodeus right?

[brazen sparrow]

Not quite, but you're on the right track

[oblique creek]

By chance do you wanna play ark on Xbox? Or be friends

[brazen sparrow]

Perhaps, let's take this to DMs to not clutter up the chat

[oblique creek]

He

Ye

[forest geyser]

Alpha Raptor, Alpha Carno, Alpha Nasuceratops, Myself when I went AFK, goddamn Titanomyra Queen's colony

||fucking Alpha spawns on Fjordur lmao||

I will say that I hope that the Ark Animated Series progresses through the story maps.

Like a map per season

that would be fun

[lyric tendon]

tbh listing all the alphas is the easiest answer lol

[forest geyser]

true

I have to admit though an Ark bucket list for me is getting prank killed by a C4 dodo by a friend/tribemate (without me having told them about this)

[oblique creek]

Why are you guys talking in #lore-nerdz go to #pve-discussion or something

[lyric tendon]

because #lore-nerdz

and since you are new to this chat, welcome to #lore-nerdz

[brazen sparrow]

They've got a point, lol

We should try to stick to lore stuff as much as possible

[lyric tendon]

Nah, this is more of a "general chat for Lore Nerdz"

Besides almost all the lore stuff is already solved, almost everyone who is well known here are gone silent because there is nothing to theorycraft

[brazen sparrow]

Fair enough, I suppose

[stray crag]

Where's the best place to get caught up on lore?

[flat gale]

🤓🤓

[lyric tendon]

Pins if you want reading

NeddyTheNoodle has a full video (at least from Island to SE)

[stray crag]

thank you!

[noble flint]

if you have time o nyour hands the lore page on the wiki has everything

[bold dove]

Okay, i'm having a brainfart.
Is it tek in general, or just a prototype tek-suit that Santiago stole from the URE?

(as a lore expert. Can't fucking believe i'm asking. But i forgor)

[lyric tendon]

probably an existing tek suit??

[tender wasp]

In the notes Diana says that it is the somhow newest design of what the URE has right now.

[bold dove]

Ahh

[tender wasp]

He steals the prints and reverse-engeniers them and later might have modified it.

It is actually something that made him quite popular regarding to diana and what he is well known for.

[tender wasp]

@fresh chasm We can still talk here XDD

[fresh chasm]

Lel, should be every channel except general

[tender wasp]

yeah.. all others work fine XD

[worldly moon]

Giga Chad should be in ark 2

[digital flower]

No is already our ark 2 giga chad

[tender wasp]

[forest geyser]

if Bob is the giga chad, who is the Rex Chad?

[lyric tendon]

Rex obvs

[forest geyser]

somehow resists making a Chuck Tingle joke

[lyric tendon]

lol

[pseudo nimbus]

Who is our carno chad?

[brazen sparrow]

The carno twins from the movie Dinosaur, probably

[jolly hearth]

Rexy

[pseudo nimbus]

Helena so bad at the game she got caged by the alphas without fighting

💀

[jolly hearth]

how the hell did Mei Yin tame a giga with a normal bow and no trap

[bold dove]

She's good

[jolly hearth]

fair

[pseudo nimbus]

Forcetame

[arctic bison]

she also did get a rockdrake without stealing an egg, by knocking it out

mei op, change my mind

[jolly hearth]

What0

HOW

[pseudo nimbus]

"That one tribemate who thinks he's the best ark player to ever live be like"

[jolly hearth]

imma try and do that tbh

maybe with a trap tho but i think i have an engram for an ascendant regular bow sooooooo

might craft a few of those, and by a few i mean 20, and probably 2000 tranq arrows

[digital flower]

Need my nightly dose of before bed

[digital flower]

Let's not forget about the waves of corrupted creatures and titans she, Kazuma and Santiago and others fought off before perishing

Their meks are super op

[lyric tendon]

Mei is a cheater, canon approved

[mortal abyss]

Why is there dinosaurs on the ark and not modern animals

[pseudo nimbus]

Where do we start....

[brazen sparrow]

This is because it was easier to genetically revive dinosaurs (the ancestors of almost all current wildlife) that could then potentially evolve into things like birds and all that, as explained in Santiago's explorer notes on Gen 2

[brazen sparrow]

I beat ya to it 😈

[pseudo nimbus]

That's was for genesis ship

Iirc there was a different explanation for the arks

[brazen sparrow]

And the Arks, they used the same basis for the creatures

There was no explanation pre-Gen 2 and afaik no proper one for specifically the Arks, but it can be implied (since they are striving towards the same goal and in progress at the same time) that they use the same reasoning

[solemn linden]

That isn't exactly what the notes meant and the odds of prehistoric creatures evolving into modern wildlife a second time under vastly different conditions is incredibly unlikely

"What's the least amount of terrestrial lifeforms you'd need to recreate nature?

If all you had left were humans, chickens, honey bees, catfish, algae, alfalfa, yeast, and some pinto beans, could you say you'd saved life on Earth?

We don't honestly expect to be able to preserve every form of life that ever existed, but it only seems smart to back up as much as possible-extinct or otherwise-in case there's a possible balance that we missed out on the first time."

When Santiago says "recreate nature", he doesn't mean recreate it exactly as it is. He just means creating a healthy biosphere that is descended from some kind of Earth life.

They aren't expecting the dinosaurs to evolve into birds a second time. They are just fine with having part of their new biosphere be composed of dinosaurs, no matter what they end up evolving into.

[brazen sparrow]

That's how I understood it, but yeah it is a bit vague and he only initially states recreating "nature", whatever he means by that strange wording. I admit I probably looked a bit too much into it 😅

[solemn linden]

Fair, the wording is a bit strange. I just don't think it makes sense to expect things to evolve the same way a second time, though with genetic engineering that may be more possible than it first seems.

[brazen sparrow]

To be fair as well, it's fully known that both the Ark and Genesis ship's creators are very huge nerds, hence the dragons and other such deep fantasy creatures lol

So that could explain a little bit of the influence in the decision making process 😂

[solemn linden]

Between the dragons, xenomorphs and the Jurassic Park dilophosaurus, I'm like 99% sure that the homo deus are just binge watching old sci-fi and fantasy movies in their spare time.

[brazen sparrow]

For sure, that would explain how they go insane as well. The Ab overseer was just watching the Alien franchise on repeat 🤣

[solemn linden]

lmao yesss

How the two factions went from being at war to helping each other
United Republic of Earth: “We gotta work together if we want to stand a chance at saving life as we know it!”
Terran Federation: “Hell no. I ain’t working with you”
United Republic of Earth: “Ya’ll ever seen Jurassic Park?”
Terran Federation: leaning forward “Consider me intrigued.” 👀

[past merlin]

hello guys, i heard scorched will have an ending scene like aberration after manticore defeat. is that true? what do u think the ending lore will be?

[lyric tendon]

same as you do, go to the hall of history, slain the overseer

it's kinda the same as the Island

[glad crow]

They couldn't really justify changing it from a lore standpoint.

[pseudo marsh]

Only real difference would be going into the aberration ark. Which im all for.

[tired stream]

They wouldn’t do it if it was the exact same as the island lol

Obviously there will be some differences

[lyric tendon]

i just made a shorter description because i forgot which Helena or Rockwell note did they describe the ascension

[glad oak]

i just remember its in Helenas notes

its whatever her last scorched one is

[brazen sparrow]

"The transporter that can take us back to the "control center" station is in the ruins of another city, south of the mountains."

"Having seen us through the ruins and safely to the platform, Wali has taken her leave."

These are the only mentions of the ascension/control center as it were of the Scorched Ark, afaik.

[robust blade]

Can I watch/ learn the lore on YouTube or something?

[tired stream]

So not a lot of detail

[digital flower]

Yeah but it would be easier just to read it

check the pins in the lore-nerdz channel it'll have all the information you need

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah they have a lot of room for the scorched ascension

[mortal abyss]

Is scorched earth canon

[brazen sparrow]

Yes

[lyric tendon]

anything under "story map" is canon

free ones (aside from the Island) are not

[mortal abyss]

Oh I didn't know they were labeled

[arctic bison]

any paid map is canon

[lyric tendon]

in single player

[mortal abyss]

Oh ok

[forest geyser]

I think it's neat that mod maps could technically exist in canon.

[ornate hull]

I paid for ark that included the center so its cannon

[tired stream]

I read every single Helena note, that took so long

And I already knew most of it so most of it was a waste of time, big sadge

[ivory hound]

One of you nerdz tell me the ark storyline ik its like a meteor and stuff but

[tired stream]

Meteor?

[ivory hound]

Yuh like the meteor that had ele that crashed to earth and it stated taking over and stuff so they had to evac on the arks?

[tired stream]

Oh oh yeah, I’m newer to the lore so

[fallow sapphire]

only reason it started taking over was cause of people doing what the do best and starting wars with the best technology the world has to offer, in this case element based weaponry

[tired stream]

Wouldn’t it put like tiny particles of itself in the soil everytime it was used or something?

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah basically. In average quantities, not that harmful, at least not for a long time. But with a full tek war, crap went down fast

[mental isle]

Rock drake lore anyone?

[glad crow]

They were like wyverns, normal GMO's, they existed before Rockwell, but the early versions may have been mutated by the element, so the rock drake Mei Ying had may look different to ours, likely how she tranq tamed it.

[mental isle]

So could there be drakes on earth

Like where ark 2 is?

[mental isle]

?

[glad crow]

Well, they weren't on the genesis ship, so no.

[mental isle]

But the genesis ship was exploded anyways so any life forms on there died

Anyways if im correct

[glad crow]

Some survived, we see a dodo and rex in the trailers.

[mental isle]

Plus im prettu sure sum time later especially with us beating extinction and drakes and reapers all falling back to earth sum lived and repopulated

And got un mutated

[glad crow]

Unmutated?

[mental isle]

They could’ve lost there mutated genes over time

Wit the changes in the world

No longer being in radation

In a free world now

Look at life today

[glad crow]

Maybe, but the could have just evolved differently.

[mental isle]

A newer drake

Instead of rock drake

[glad crow]

Why go back to your original in a completely different environment?

[mental isle]

Forest drake

[glad crow]

They would likely change.

[mental isle]

Because before drake mutated aberration wasn’t how it was it was mutated element waste product instead it was a balanced ark with the same form as others so why not change

[mental isle]

Yeah losing the feathers maybe

Or growing full on wings or skin wings

Since i dont belive a animal that size could really glide

[glad crow]

They would likely become less radiation resistant.

[mental isle]

Buh it ark nothing reall

[mental isle]

Yeah

Then we have to come back to the the conclusion that ever other animal on abb changed to

Reapers i dont see it to much

Ravangers i can see turn to scarier giant furry wolves looking like mini fennirs

And roll rats turning small over time

Due to less predators

Glow pets getting regular sized

Or losing light capabilities

[glad crow]

The dinosaurs are still there.

[mental isle]

Well true

But bigger doesn’t allways mean better

[glad crow]

Tell that to ark.

[mental isle]

Because now it competing wit larger herbivores aniamls

Lol gigas

Idk buh most would need fur now

Drakes may look more like there more closely related relative managarmar

I dont tho

[lyric tendon]

We don't even know what happened to Earth when ARK 2 is set in another planet

[glad crow]

We can only speculate, but still fun.

[mental isle]

I hope we get evolved dinos man

Like it would be cool to see how all the corrupted and abb dinos look now that there no element/radiation now

[wary ruin]

We won’t though

This is far far away from earth and the arks

[mental isle]

We dont know how far humans got back then though

[wary ruin]

????

[lyric tendon]

Plus the mission for the Genesis Ship is to get away from Earth as possible in case the ARK fails

[mental isle]

I mean in future

[wary ruin]

We won’t go there in the future

[lyric tendon]

None of the Survivors know what happened to Earth

[glad crow]

There's just the ark survivors.

[lyric tendon]

Aside a few like Vin

[wary ruin]

It would make literally 0 sense for us to return to earth

[glad crow]

We're the genesis survivors now.

The genesis group doesn't know earth is saved.

[mental isle]

What if the new planet isn’t what we think of it

Earth would be the safest if this true

[brazen sparrow]

Not how it works, that map was free dlc after the game came out bud

[glad crow]

We don't know earth is safe canonically.

[lyric tendon]

Again, no one in the ship knows what happened to Earth plus their mission is already set in stone under the agreement between 2 factions

[mental isle]

After defeating the titans the corruption was gone

[mental isle]

Vin still has his memories

Could teach us

[lyric tendon]

And Ab is fallen back to Earth and we still don't know what happened next

[lyric tendon]

I doubt it, he just want to return to monkey by disabling Tek

[glad crow]

Anyway, how could he build the gen 2 ship from scratch? He's using wooden spears!

[mental isle]

Jus how us survivors do things???

[wary ruin]

We won’t get back to earth

[glad crow]

We couldn't do something that big.

[lyric tendon]

No element nor engrams

[mental isle]

We start from stick and stone to taming the strongest of mount

[brazen sparrow]

They are in the simulation, so it's possible

[brazen sparrow]

Ark 2 is not on Earth

[mental isle]

Ik now

[glad crow]

They left that.

[sick canyon]

Ab is only a tiny nugget of corruption compared to the titans
Unless rockwell is somehow still on earth

[mental isle]

Rock well is dead

And we know this

[lyric tendon]

I'm Gen 2 yes, but we don't know on Earth

[sick canyon]

The genesis ship rockwell, yes

[mental isle]

Wait theres 2 ?

[lofty apex]

No)

[mental isle]

Rockwell prime which is gen2

[sick canyon]

Not confirmed

[mental isle]

Yeah i said there only 1

I dont belive there 2

Even tho this rockwell is prime i think he jus a stronger version nun else

[lyric tendon]

Firstly he download his own data into the ship, we just don't know what happened to his flesh bits

[lofty apex]

Gen2 and Aberr Rockwell are the same person lol. He transferred his personality from the Ark to the ship via Arat Prime

[sick canyon]

The rockwell on genesis could be a clone that rockwell uploaded to the genesis ship
So the original rockwell might still be on earth

[mental isle]

So theres 2 of him like clones

[lofty apex]

Thats make no sense

[mental isle]

Rockwell could dangerous fr

Get

[lyric tendon]

Tbh a big blob of tentacles uploading to the ship without leaving something behind doesn't make sense as well

[sick canyon]

How does it make any less sense than anything else in ark lore?

[mental isle]

Uploaded his dna like the dino spawners

True possibility

Keep in mind theres is no way rockwell somehow jumped from space all the way to a space ship

[lofty apex]

The arks purify the earth of the element. Sooner or later he would have died on Earth anyway)

[mental isle]

There’s something behind this

[lyric tendon]

We don't know that for sure

The Real Santiago died, Helena becomes an Homo Deus, Mei and Diana's fates are unknown

And we have a lot of clueless survivors set foot on earth for the first time (guessing be end up like a big PVP server)

[sick canyon]

Unless ab corrupted the area on earth that it was supposed to purify

[lofty apex]

what do you mean by "we don't know"?
Helena said so. Yo)

[sick canyon]

And create a whole area for rockwell to spread out from

[brazen sparrow]

We (the survivor) know what happened, there's a chance that we tell the Gen survivors about it just like we obviously told them about the battle on the Gen ship (otherwise, how in the world do they know about king titan and HLN-A?)

[lyric tendon]

She use her remaining spark of Homo Deus magic to make notes and travel to the Gen Ship to make HLNA

Who reads notes anyways?

[sick canyon]

Me

[lyric tendon]

The title cards are not canon

[lofty apex]

Me too ahem

[brazen sparrow]

No he doesn't, this is a new clone, not the same one from Ab/Ext

[mental isle]

He knows look at the trailer

He says things of old past

[glad crow]

You ask who reads notes in the lore nerdz chat?

[sick canyon]

Ah yes a fellow note reader

[lyric tendon]

He knows what happened when he is working in the Gen Ship (and get a revival torture from Uma) hence he want to shut Tek down

[lyric tendon]

Italics means sarcasm

[brazen sparrow]

The trailers cave paintings are definitely canon, Meeka and Santiago literally look at them and talk about them...

[mental isle]

Saying

[sick canyon]

The one in the second trailer might not be

[lyric tendon]

No one took trailers as canon even in ARK 1 ones

If we do, we would question Rockwell why he is outside the ship's command center and into a battle field with Tek Wyverns and Space Dolphins

[mental isle]

True

[glad crow]

Thank you for the information.

[lyric tendon]

We also question why we can't use pikes as a spear

[sick canyon]

Yeah what's with that

Me wanna yeet pike

[brazen sparrow]

What do you mean by this? The simulations/engrams of most creatures are stored on the the Eden ring

[lyric tendon]

Remember Vin disables Tek, how do we get engrams now?

[brazen sparrow]

That wasn't a trailer, that was a splash art, big difference

[brazen sparrow]

You really think he disabled every part of the Eden ring?

[lyric tendon]

Same with the cave drawings for the 2nd trailer

It's a splash art

[lyric tendon]

If Vin is really Santiago, the Cyber Terrorist that perfected Tek

Then, maybe

[brazen sparrow]

Very naïve of you to think so but w/e

[brazen sparrow]

Not the first one though, with the cave paintings

[lofty apex]

are you trying to laugh now or what?)

[lyric tendon]

I can argue those obelisks are from Survive the ARK mission but i dunno

[brazen sparrow]

How would they know about the mission if they weren't on the ship awake prior to the crash/landing of the Eden ring?

[lyric tendon]

Because that mission took place in a simulation

[brazen sparrow]

Not the part they are in, that's Gen 1 fam

[lyric tendon]

Not everyone is always in the Sim remember the last part (Gen 1 ending) where Survivors released prematurely just to stop Rockwell from proliferate further to Eden

[glad crow]

They left the simulation.

[lyric tendon]

Gabriel is a Survivor that is released from the Gen Sim prematurely

[brazen sparrow]

Also yes we do, he is gone from Earth, he said as much about when he transferred himself to the ship

[tired stream]

I need to get caught up with notes man.

[sick canyon]

Same, I'm relying on Ned too much

[lyric tendon]

His data transferred from Earth, there is no way tentacle mass ever be transferable

He already use biomass of survivors in the Gen Ship (including his own clone) to help is proliferation

[tired stream]

Same… I decided to read all of Helena’s in game just because I’m too impatient to wait for the aberration note videos

[brazen sparrow]

Their data is still stored there, like the survivors, unless it gets purged but I highly doubt that as it would make for a very shitty repopulation plan if they were to do so

[brazen sparrow]

But if there's no consciousness to pilot said tentacles, what happens (historically, when things don't have a consciousness)? They die/decompose

[lyric tendon]

Knowing Element doesn't give an absolute fuck

It's either die naturally or just pull a mitosis and send a piece of his data to the Gen Ship

[brazen sparrow]

The whole reason he escapes to the Gen ship is because he knows the Arks are purging the element (which he is mostly made of at that point), how does that make sense?

[lyric tendon]

But Ab crashed after the whole purging is done

Knowing Ab is a "malfunctioning ARK", it just relied on Earth's gravity rather than the sync of the ARKs

[brazen sparrow]

No, it likely crashed at the same time, like the other Arks. The purging process is going on for god knows how long so that's kind of a moot point

[tired stream]

Wish I knew what was goin on😞

[sick canyon]

Yes, helena said "in time" the arks will purge all the element from the soil

[lyric tendon]

I saw Ab crashing last

(Need to rewatch the ending)

[brazen sparrow]

Why would he go to the Gen ship if he could just re-infect Earth?

[lyric tendon]

Again Ab is a malfunctioning ARK, it didn't function as any normal ARK and it landed sideways

[sick canyon]

Maybe he want to do both?

[brazen sparrow]

I agree, please re-watch, it is not clear whether or not Ab crashes later other than purely the timing in the cutscene alone (which is pretty vague imo)

[tired stream]

Why would he be looking for a different planet to get too if he could of just gone back to earth

[sick canyon]

So if one failed he'd have a backup
Same reason humanity made both

[lyric tendon]

The Ab reveal at the end shows the ob is still purple and glowing unlike the purified ARKs

[brazen sparrow]

Because he could be unopposed on another planet, and start his own civilization away from all the survivors that killed him over and over again

(which were being released from the Arks in the end cutscene for the game)

[tired stream]

If he is back in ark 2 imma lose it

[sick canyon]

That's not how universal domination works

[sick canyon]

Same, as epic as rockwell is
I don't want wildcard to milk him

[brazen sparrow]

Who said he wanted to dominate the galaxy? He states in Gen 2 he wants to find the origins of element iirc

[sick canyon]

If anything the element wants universal domination
And Rockwell is being influenced by the element

[brazen sparrow]

The corrupted element, maybe, but not all of it

[tired stream]

Element just be doing it’s thing then getting abused😞

[sick canyon]

I thought element was just naturally corrupt tho

[brazen sparrow]

No, it isn't

[sick canyon]

I really need to read more notes

[lyric tendon]

I don't think there are any part of Rockwell's banter stated he wants to see Element, nor any mention of "Endmondium"

He just want to be a god

[sick canyon]

More
Notes
More
Power

[sick canyon]

"Endmondium" bruh

[lyric tendon]

He never calls it "element"

[sick canyon]

Yeah, but it's edmundium

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, not take over the galaxy though, you can be a god on one planet lol and he does say he is interested in finding the source of element somewhere, I can't remember where though (maybe one of the trailers?)

It might even be pre-monster idk

[tender wasp]

He says he want to spread over the Cosmos.. so that sounds to me he wants to be god of the whole universe not only one planet.

[digital flower]

Disney villain

[brazen sparrow]

Where? That's what's been lacking so far, evidence lol (even my own, I'll admit)

[tender wasp]

Watch the Gen 2 trailer

Here he says it very clearly.

[brazen sparrow]

On it

[tender wasp]

Tha is how he feels in whole Gen2 for me.. cliche, stupid Disney Villian

[brazen sparrow]

He says "this is to be my domain, the first of many", not anything about the cosmos or spreading over it. But I digress, it's close enough I suppose

[tender wasp]

"My will should spread across the cosmos, infinite, undying."

That is what he says.. sound pretty close to "I wanna rule the universe and bow it to my will"

[brazen sparrow]

That's not in the trailer, that's in the teaser but yes I just watched that as well and you have a point

[lyric tendon]

this is why trailers are not canon, even in game he did not mention Element at all

[brazen sparrow]

How does that prove that the trailers are non-canon? Did I miss something lol

[lyric tendon]

most trailers dont show any information connecting to the lore, just showcasing creatures and gameplay

and again, Rockwell did not mention anything about Element in Gen at all

[brazen sparrow]

Wdym? The Gen 2 trailer literally shows the beginning of the intro cutscene to Gen 2

[brazen sparrow]

I've already conceded on that point, because I couldn't find the evidence I thought existed

[lyric tendon]

yes sure they show the intro but it be stupid of them to give us a cliffhanger after the Gen 1 ending

[brazen sparrow]

And if the trailers aren't canon, then neither is the statement that he wants to take over the cosmos lmao

[brazen sparrow]

That's literally what cliffhangers are for...

And they did do that...

[lyric tendon]

its literally him bragging about while you are flying around the meat biome and during boss fight

especially when you beat him before the ending

[digital flower]

Most of the other dlc trailers are just fancy cgi and effects the Gen 2 trailer is probably the most canon trailer out of all of them

[brazen sparrow]

I don't remember that, but I'll watch it again (the voice lines) soon

[digital flower]

Id say the other trailers aren't canon except gen 2

The voicelines mainly not the actual trailer

[brazen sparrow]

Well yeah but there's aspects of them that are canon, and the Genesis ones are undeniably canon (otherwise the dlcs don't make a lick of sense)

[digital flower]

Ah yes the good old repeating dialogue... I can't forget the amount of times I've been insulted by Rockwell or heard him and HLNA argue on

[brazen sparrow]

For real though, glad they fixed that

[digital flower]

How is a woman wandering through extinctions city with her rex and seeing the king titan in the city canon?

A womans who name we have no idea of

[brazen sparrow]

That's us? The survivor? lmao

[digital flower]

What? No its just them promoting the dlc using cool cgi and effects I dont think it has anything to do with canon

Where in gen 2 trailer we hear actual dialogue from rockwell

[lyric tendon]

i memorized those lines to the point i am more annoyed at him more than HLNA

[digital flower]

Britishness intensifies

I probably shouldn't say that since I am also British :P

[lyric tendon]

irony intensifies

[digital flower]

[brazen sparrow]

I didn't say completely canon, but it isn't a stretch to consider that the king titan could show up in the city (he did in the explorer notes...)

Besides, I thought that was the ice titan anyways in the trailer...

[digital flower]

Nah because Helena locked him and the other titans to the terminals

[digital flower]

Thats only one of the trailers

In another one I remember that woman I was talking about comes face to face with the king titan in the city

[brazen sparrow]

I think you're misremembering lol

[digital flower]

Nope I swear there was an extinction trailer like that

[brazen sparrow]

Huh, I swear that was the ice titan originally

Damn Mandela effect lol

[digital flower]

I also remember there being a extinction trailer with the ice titan XD

[brazen sparrow]

I found it

It was the teaser

Sent it btw

Or announcement trailer, rather

Damn, can't even link their own trailers in here? Rough

[digital flower]

Oh so it does exist I'm not insane

[digital flower]

Makes sense if they allowed links the amount of people spamming this chat with stupid videos or malicious links would be insane

[rugged herald]

Anyone know what the tek sleeping pod is made of and how big it is wanting to build one irl for fun

[digital flower]

Uh go check the recipe on the ark wiki

Idk I guess keep it up to your imagination

[brazen sparrow]

That's what moderators are for, moderating

[digital flower]

Yeah but there's been instances of being invaded by general chat where even the moderators had issues dealing with spam

[rugged herald]

idk the wiki has nothing on it lore wise apart from it being made by diana using spare element

[brazen sparrow]

How so? Unless someone brings in friends to spam (which is a niche encounter, trust me) there's nothing stopping them from just banning the person

Or muting/silencing them

[digital flower]

Obviously they do that but there's been times usually around dlc releases where this channel gets wild with people flooding in with questions about the lore or just people being trolls

Paid dlc releases not free

[brazen sparrow]

Huh, well then I guess I can understand it if it was as bad as you say, but that's got to be a lot of people then (like 100+)

[tender wasp]

So you are Rockwell XD

[digital flower]

Yes every British person = Rockwell

[glad crow]

We've got 70 million Rockwell's now. Good job.

[digital flower]

[lyric tendon]

"look I made my own people"

[forest geyser]

no the thing is, Rockwell isn't really Rockwell

he's a mitosis clone of Queen Victoria. "Rockwell" was fulfilling his prime British directive of Imperialism

[lyric tendon]

omg yes

[mental isle]

What yall think abb looked before it’s malfunctioning

[rain dock]

Probably looked like the island but with flying gigas

[tired stream]

Just the island but with more element

[mental isle]

Im curious what caused the malfunctioning

Tho

[lyric tendon]

Tek People Nuked the Overseer

[wary ruin]

From the sounds of it, it was a paradise

[analog yoke]

And a whole obelisk with it

[lyric tendon]

the obelisk is not really attached to the overseer arena which is located to the highest point of the ARK's outer pillars

[analog yoke]

How'd they destroy the obelisk then?

[lyric tendon]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/ARKs

[lyric tendon]

they destroyed the overseer arena and the hall of history

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/ARKs#/media/File:ARK_Icon.png

[analog yoke]

If the overseers death caused that, then what about the island when its overseer is beaten?

[lyric tendon]

the pillar on the left of that image is the pillar where the overseer arena is located

[lyric tendon]

it takes a literal nuke to destroy an overseer

[dreamy prairie]

the overseer doesn't die when you beat it normally, it just kinda retracts into that weird little ball and ascends you
The aberration one got physically destroyed by the nuke

[lyric tendon]

and we technically didn't "kill" the overseer on the island, we just beat it and we get the ascension

[analog yoke]

If the overseer just allowed the Survivor to ascend after taking enough damage, why does the hologram in the overseers room show the ark going red?

[lyric tendon]

chosen ARK to ascend to

[analog yoke]

Ah

Thanks

Then how did the obelisk in Ab get destroyed?

[lyric tendon]

i doubt its from the nuke as the arena is too far out of reach of the obelisk, maybe from neglect or pressure from space or the Tek people scavanged it

[dreamy prairie]

has anyone ever noticed that the obelisk dropped on the same site as the destroyed outer pillar ?

[lyric tendon]

i mean each obelisk has a corresponding pillar (see the image link i posted)

[tired stream]

Because we just beat it not… fuckin blow it up with a nuke lol

[mental isle]

A tek nuke lol

[mental isle]

Why can’t creatures like rock drake and wyverns cant be tamed

[bold dove]

Nothing

Cause we don't kill the overseer.

[mental isle]

We make the overseer retreat

[bold dove]

Meh, not even

They more or less allowed us to pass.

[mental isle]

Seen us worthy

Then

[zenith geyser]

Hold up … abb got nuked??

Explain

[lyric tendon]

Tek people in Ab thinks they are in prison

So they made a Tek Nuke to literally Nuke there Overseer

[zenith geyser]

Damn

Gimme that engram

[tired stream]

Can I nuke rag?

Aka the most overrated map in the game