lore-nerdz

[bold dove]

And yeah, electing stupid people would get the world fucked.
Cause again, that what's going on currently.

[onyx sky]

so how does training more stupid people get the world unfucked

we literally already use element before going back lmfao

[bold dove]

Cause, element in small amounts is safe.

If everyone on an ARK station had tek bases, that's still not enough to fuck up the environment.

It required a literal planetary war filled with nothing but tek-based technology that constantly spitted out spores for 5-10 years straight to even 'start' the process of Corruption.

Which no amount of survivors can compare on an ARK.

So in short.
It's not dumb to fight fire with fire, as long as you're smart and don't make the fire go out of control.

[onyx sky]

and what about a civilization who already builds with element when they land says that they won't just do the same things again. except they have more muscles now

[bold dove]

All of element has been wiped

Sorry for late response.

But 'all' of element on Earth have been wiped.
This includes the element on the ARK's.

[warped herald]

You mean slowly wiped when the arks activated

[bold dove]

It was pretty instant.

[warped herald]

Well we dont know if the arks are close by each when they land on earth cause i didnt see them land each other

[bold dove]

We actually do in the ending.

And they all where landing at once in the Extinction ending

[warped herald]

Yea they fall near each other but we dont know the distance between each one from another

[bold dove]

Roughly i believe 500 miles each.

As seen in every other ascension pre-Extinction. All of the ARK's are tactically placed in a hexagon grid around the Earth's orbit.

[glad crow]

So hypothetically, could they have continued using element if they did not have a war, or would it eventually have led to the same result, albeit after a longer period of time?

[bold dove]

Seems like it takes a 'very' long time for Element to react without largescale uses.
Possibly centuries, or eons.
Though a tek-based civilization could've been possible with machines like the Stryder.
Harvesting the soil for element and (i think) shitting them out in a non-harmful/diluted version.

[glad crow]

Because element always seemed great to me, it had the right properties for space travel, it was a seemingly renewable clean energy source (could've solved climate change) and had numerous other applications. One minor downside of turning into titans and killing everything.

[bold dove]

Right

[glad crow]

But for centuries, that is enough time to develope less harmful alternatives.

[bold dove]

Though there's a theory that i personally believe in my own headcanon.
Element is 'the' most adaptable substance in the universe. Hints why it's so many elements at once and can go from a solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.
Unless they go down that wrought. There's no way Element was naturally made in the universe.
TL:DR. Element was originally created to become the most adaptable substances to help advance other races.
Humans being the idiots we are took a gift and twisted it, and with the planetary scale war going on. It adapted to become an ultimate war-based weapon.
And we saw how that turned out.

[glad crow]

And as a result, we have lost not only almost the entire population, but also the most valuable substance in the universe. Human stupidity is staggering.

[bold dove]

"Welcome to the Human race.
Where we allow dumbasses control our every moves."

[bold dove]

Though possibly, ARK-2 could have element return.
For some reason, people think that "No-Tek = No-Element" while that's simply not the case.
Aberration was heavily Element based within its story and environment. But you barely use tek on that map.

Kind of the same thing with Extinction.
If you make a whole new character, you need to fight the titans first before you can even use tek.
So you have hundreds of hours without tek.
Yet, we're in a element infested map that has a element-based city that has element-based creatures that the map also has element-infused creatures.

[tender wasp]

It also would feel a bit wierd to get rid of all Element in the Ark2 when they show in Gen 2 that Element is present in the whole universe and not something that was only on than meteor that crashed on Earth.
And Dollie hinted that we should think about how all the stuff on the planet is even possible.

[pseudo nimbus]

[pseudo nimbus]

If ark 2 has even a trace of anything past muskets, people will go apeshit

[tender wasp]

Ced said "mostly" or "mainly" primitive not pure primitive.. so they still can be industrial later or in a high tier and you don't know what they will do with DLCs if Ark2 goes well.

[pseudo nimbus]

Them adding more tech advancements with later dlcs would make it worse
It'd be like being on the phone with a lawer

[wary ruin]

I just hope they don’t change too much gameplay wise (controls) and this makes me wonder what the loot from bosses will be

[bold dove]

And to be fair. They're most likely just talking about the base-game.
Theoretically, tek 'can' come back in a future DLC.

[tender wasp]

But would not be unexpected. Ark allways has been a SiFi game and they can add stuff later that might not be Tek but something similar advanced and when they balance it well and way better than Tek it can even be good.

[pseudo nimbus]

If you want to go down that route
technically you can say the same about ark 1

[tender wasp]

The main problem with Ark 1 is, that Tek is badly balanced.

[bold dove]

Not really.
You get all of the technology tiers in the base-game.

[pseudo nimbus]

Pre official release in 2017

[bold dove]

Talking about major DLC's. Not updates.

[pseudo nimbus]

Honestly we should bring this to #ark-2

[tender wasp]

The Island is the base game and there you allready can get Tek.

EA is something you allways should expect changes and additions.

[wary ruin]

#ark-2 ?

[glad crow]

I love how aberration dealt with element, and I would be receptive to any similar ideas.

[tender wasp]

Abs was great with it.

[bronze turtle]

before the planet died Monster probably made and Element flavored sour drink or some stuff like that

[plain plover]

This is power

[bold dove]

?

[bronze turtle]

I apologize for the way I worded that

before the planet died, Monster, the energy drink creator company, probably made an "Element flavoured" sour/spicy drink

it makes sense with the lore 🤷‍♂️

[bold dove]

True

Or a Element flavored Monster-drink

[bronze turtle]

that's the best way to say it

Element is too good of an opportunity to pass making an energy drink

[wary ruin]

Amazing lore

[torpid matrix]

damn, imagine getting raided and figuring out you lost your entire stash of element flavored monster...

[bold dove]

Just realized that Element is basically a cracked out version of imulsion form Gears of War.

And the ending of Gears-3 is basically just like Extinction, with it wiping out imulsion completely.

With a EMP like blast.

[glad crow]

Which one is the original?

[warped herald]

Gears 3 was the original

[bold dove]

[plain plover]

It’s the green stuff from command and conquer

[sharp vector]

How can the character that ur playing be on earth(extinction)? Was it through the abberation portal?

[fallow sapphire]

Exactly

The arks were meant to send you down after they thought you were strong enough, but the bar kept getting risen. If it wasn’t for aberration we would never have gone down to earth

[warped herald]

All thanks to thermonuclear warfare

[rain dock]

I mean the idea of some mysterious substance that allows you to break the laws of physics isn't a new idea, and isn't unique to any one game lol

[glad crow]

Like it's in iron man, transformers, and various movies too.

[bold dove]

Not at all.
But it's funny how ARK's story is more or less a hybrid of other ideas, and merging them into one.

[bold dove]

Or the protomulecule from The Expanse.
Which Element is actually based off of.

[rain dock]

Well, pretty much all fantasy scifi stories these days are a hybrid of other ideas lol

There are very few actually original ones jaja

[jovial dagger]

Survivor and Helena/HLN-A:
Noooo rockwell you can’t take over the ship for you to take over the universe!
Rockwell: ha ha the element has corrupted my mind

[ornate hull]

When Santiago made the extinction meks were those a design from the war or something he made up on the spot

[jovial dagger]

He made them for to combat the titans in present (that’s why they do x10 damage to titans in game)

[tender wasp]

He used his knowlege about robotics to built them. He says himself in the extinction notes that he has a idetic memory and can remember every blueprint of what he has learned and made. The Meks so are a new invention he makes on extinction with all his knowledge.

[glad crow]

His masterpiece.

[ornate hull]

Then my question is why is there a extinction mek in the life support mission on gen 2

[tender wasp]

Cause Ark Lore is full of Plotholes and contradictions. In the Extinction notes it is made pretty clear he never made any Meks prior.
It also can be simply be a reuse of assets without even having thought about the lore.

Also especially with Gen/Gen 2 there are a lot of plotholes and contradictions with the lore of Island to extinction. Maybe also has something to do that the old writer left WC and a new writer/writers were responsible for the Lore/Notes/etc.

I would say the Mek in the mission is simply a reuse of game assets not really having the lore in mind while doing it.

[rain dock]

Uh, HLNA made the gen2 mission simulations

And Helena definitely saw the extinction meks

[tender wasp]

Wasn't that Nida ?

Yeah but at lest HNL-A could have some kind of memories of the Meks from Helena

[rain dock]

Pretty sure it was HLNA that made the simulations for the missions

[lyric tendon]

i dont think HLNA made those missions at all

in the Starwing Strike she questioned about having jets on dolphins then in Survive The ARK the last round is called "Nida's secret"

[rain dock]

Pretty sure there was one thing HLNA said about having made the fix the ship stuff into a simulation to make it easier

[bold dove]

She was referring to the crew-members doing that.

[rain dock]

Okay maybe I am wrong then

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah HLN-A didn’t make any of the sims, just has access to them

[tender wasp]

Ok so I did remember right it was Nida

[fallow sapphire]

I know she atleast made some of them, but I am pretty sure she made them in general

[rain dock]

I'm too lazy to look it up to verify it jajaja

[solemn linden]

Ok well when we level up we get engrams and an engram is literally by definition a "memory trace" - like how the fictional hidden part of the brain that allows for clones to have their memories from before they died in the lore is called the engrammic matrix. It's all just memories. So when we unlock an engram, it's actually just our implants downloading the memory of how to craft it from a previous survivor. This is why we can craft the meks from an engram despite never finding santiago's blueprints for them. We just downloaded his memory of how to make them.

We know that the ARKs, Arat Prime and the Colony ship share the same engrammic and genomic archives, and that at the very least Arat Prime and the Colony Ship are connected with transfer links.

What if the reason for Nida being able to craft a simulation featuring perfect recreations of things like Santiago's meks, is because, just like in gameplay, the engrammic archive that the ARKs share with the Colony ship includes all the smaller "how to craft this item" type engrams, thus giving Nida access to Santiago's memory of how to build the meks, just like how we have access to that memory. This would also explain how she was able to create perfect replicas of the various environments and creatures from the ARKs and Earth despite having never visited any of them. She just used other people's memories.

[ornate hull]

Ok but the mek in the mission wasn't made by a survivor

[solemn linden]

Yeah but the mission is a simulation made by Nida. She may not have an implant but the engrams required to make a mek were seemingly on the ship, so she could have found another way to access them and then just modelled the mek in the simulation based on the one she saw in the memory.

Like c'mon she made virtual simulations for fun, I'm sure she could figure out some kind of way to access engrams without an implant. Maybe she loaded them in the Genesis simulation or something.

[ornate hull]

Idk that just seems a Lil farfetched for me but you never know

[solemn linden]

At the very least it makes more sense than her just perfectly replicating various ARKs, their creatures and Santiago's meks by pure coincidence and it has enough evidence to prove it's possible. In all honesty though, the missions were probably just made with no regard for the lore, but hey, at least it's fun to speculate on how it could make at least some sense.

I don't even remember it ever being mentioned whether or not Nida had an implant, I just assumed she wouldn't since she was part of the ship's crew rather than a regular survivor. If she had one though, she could just access the necessary engrams the same way we do in game.

[ornate hull]

Man's is typing the Bible

[lyric tendon]

he has the longest of text walls

[ornate hull]

I see

[solemn linden]

We could make a religion out of this.

[lyric tendon]

one does not simply summarize the explorer notes with a wall of text

[solemn linden]

I shall try anyway lmao

[lyric tendon]

like a fan fiction has more chapters than the original

[solemn linden]

It takes so long to explain the lore enough to answer a question that it'd probably be just as useful if I were to post a link to the explorer notes page on the wiki and tell them to read all of it and answer the question for themselves.

[ornate hull]

I literally just explain it by saying you play through the contingency plan of 2 factions of earth after they polluted the planet to hell while a British man fucks with it

Basically ark in a nutshell

[solemn linden]

That's fair and given that 90% of the questions in this channel end up being "what is ark's lore" it is a good enough summary to answer those questions, but the other 10% of questions require you to go much more in depth.

[ornate hull]

Ya

[solemn linden]

lmao what

[tender wasp]

Wrong. Santiago's engramic Matrix from Extinction never got uploaded anywhere. He died on Extinction and his Martix never was safed. So Nida never would have been abel to access the Abs/Extinction Santiago's memory.

The database is only the same befor the ship starts and the Arks launches (Databases are only on the ship and the Arks ). As soon as the ship is gone there Databases are sepperated and unlike the ship people on the Arks die and never come back until Helena becomes Homo Deus and even she need a big bunch of time to get the respawn system done and it is made clear she wasn't able to bring Santiago back.
So the Santiago on the ship never ever had any memories of what the Santiago on Abs/Ext experienced.

And I think they used the Mek simply cause it was there as asset allready and without any regard to lore.

And a explanation also could be that maybe your brain adjusts to the simulation and some stuff gets shown there using memories of yours (at least one you can use for yourself).

[pseudo nimbus]

Is will Smith canon

Is the slap the real reason the element meteor crashed on earth

"Don't you ever put my element in your mouth"

[pseudo nimbus]

@tender wasp make it happen

[tender wasp]

Lol why me ? XD

[pseudo nimbus]

Idk

Just make it happen

[tender wasp]

To busy with my own alternate universe story ^^

[pseudo nimbus]

Well make it part of your alternate universe

[tender wasp]

Nope

But it could be a reason why there will be element in Ark 2

[pseudo nimbus]

Someone pin this

Damn ww5 in ark was intense

It was so intense it skipped over ww3 and ww4

Quantum you've been typing for a while

[solemn linden]

yeah sorry I kept getting interrupted in the middle of typing lmao

[pseudo nimbus]

Well just say it in short snetances

[solemn linden]

What we know is that extinction Santiago wasn't able to be cloned, not that none of his engrammic matrix was successfully saved. It could just be that not enough of it was able to be saved in time for any attempt at resurrecting him to be viable. As such the information we have doesn't rule out the idea of a singular memory fragment - specifically the mek engram from being successfully uploaded. Many of the other engrams in the game are items that were supposedly invented by characters in the explorer notes, so given that engrams are literally by definition memory traces, it makes sense that they would be memories taken from previous survivors.

[solemn linden]

The only real reason to believe that the ARKs and the colony ship don't share a database is that Santiago on extinction and Santiago on Gen 2 are separate. This doesn't necessarily mean that the database is separate, just that two Santiagos were cloned and that those clones were then saved as separate engrammic matrixes due to the additional memories that shaped them into different people. We know that the transfer link between Arat Prime and the colony ship is still open and fully operational despite the distance between them, so it's entirely possible for them to be connected in other ways. It would certainly explain a lot of things.

[solemn linden]

Of course the presence of the mek in Genesis part 2 is more than likely just a lore oversight for the sake of gameplay, much like the presence of the extinction creatures on gen 2 seems to be. The fact that the mek even has an engram is also potentially an oversight and the devs may not have wished to imply that Santiago's engrammic matrix was at least partially saved, but it seems weird for them to have not put any thought into that given how important the meks are to extinction.

[tender wasp]

Actually no ones Matrix was saved prior Helena making it really possible which was a reason people could not be brought back.
Like Diana was a happy little accident Helena could bring back. She could with non of the others. I think it is somewere mentioned they were to far gone.
The link so was left open or opend (Maybe by Diana/Mei or Rockwell) but not allways has been open.

[tender wasp]

But oversights happen a lot, especially when you have a switch of writers.

And I guess it is simply an oversight and simple game mechanics. Cause the Mek engram you only get on Extinction.. and the Exo-Mek on Gen 2.

[solemn linden]

I can't find any explorer notes specifically mentioning that matrixes weren't saved prior to Helena's ascension, just ones that mention them being "too far gone" and aren't very specific. Was it ever mentioned specifically at any point, either in the notes or by the writer or something or is it just kind of informed speculation? Sorry if I'm being annoying

[pseudo nimbus]

Ok besides neddythenoodle exactly what does this knowledge do for you?

[solemn linden]

Yeah that's fair, there seem to be a few lore oversights in genesis 1 and 2 cause of the writer swap. On one hand it makes some things a bit more confusing due to contradictions but it also means that creatures that make little sense to be on the colony ship at least have the potential to appear in ARK 2 so I it could be worth it.

[tender wasp]

It is mentioned that people can't be brought back and die and are dead forever. Which implies the Matrixes don't get saved again.
It even doesn't make new clones of the allready saved matrixes from the past.

Not prior Helena "inventing" the whole respawn thing.

Gen 2 made a lot of stuff really confusing and opend a bunch of plotholes and contradictions. You really feel the swap of writers in a lot of things.

[solemn linden]

So it isn't exactly specific then. It just means that the matrixes aren't viable enough for further cloning, they could be full on gone or just partially corrupted. Still possible that fragments of them are useable. I guess we won't know for certain until some new lore comes out confirming one or the other.

[solemn linden]

Yeah, it's kind of annoying, but at least it means that gasbags are for some reason on the colony ship and could be in ARK 2

[tender wasp]

A more viable option could be that Mei and Diana made it to Arat and uploaded data on the Meks. That is also a possibility.

[solemn linden]

True, I hadn't thought of that.

The Arat Prime - Colony Ship transfer link is also potentially the reason for so many extinction creatures appearing on the colony ship. Someone could've sent some over at some point - doesn't even have to be that long ago considering they are never mentioned in the gen 2 explorer notes.

[solemn linden]

I dunno, its just vaguely interesting to theorize about

[tender wasp]

Yeah or at least the genetics send over by Helena via link or similar. Sadly she forgot to send Rockdrake genetics -.-

[solemn linden]

Well there is always the possibility of them being on a part of the ship we simply never got to see, which leaves them open for a potential appearance in ARK 2 depending on what exactly WildCard counts as "primitive"

Hopefully we'll get to see the rock drakes again :)

[tender wasp]

Would be somehow amusing if all besides Tek would be considered "primitive" XD

[solemn linden]

watch as ARK 2 includes all of the fantasy creatures from ARK 1 but their tek saddles are replaced with bone saddles

[tender wasp]

ewww

Bone is the must useless material for weapons and saddles lol

[solemn linden]

yup, but we've seen multiple bone based ARK 2 items already so it might not be all that farfetched

[tender wasp]

Yeah and I have seen the concept art and it made me cringe to be honest.

Never have been a big fan of bone stuff cause no one would use it as weapon or armor cause it way to briddle.

And I don't even think it looks cool.

[solemn linden]

Some of it has been kind of cool but other parts are like they heard people demanding primitive and then ignored what primitive stuff looked like in ARK 1 and just went full flintstones

[tender wasp]

It is often the typical "Give the bad guys some bones to make them look more evil and gloomy"

[tender wasp]

That is what I fear.. full flintstones and with some luck you get a sword at the highest tier.. totaly not my kind of game I would play.

[solemn linden]

if you're feeling extra bold you can always make your bad guys be literal skeletons - I'm sure that hasn't been done before...

[tender wasp]

XDDD

[solemn linden]

Hopefully the flintstones looking stuff is just early game and the progression works similarly to ARK 1, just without TEK. Anyways we're getting a little bit off topic and I gotta go anyway, so uh until we meet again lmao

[tender wasp]

Have fun and was nice talking ^^

[onyx sky]

Who here can tell me how gen 1 had anything to do with prepairing us for gen 2? No meteors, no volcano, has flying lmfao

[lyric tendon]

Not for Gen 2, but for ARK 2

[fallow sapphire]

gen 1 was a test for the toughest environments, as they didn't have a planet scouted out when they left. So by testing the harshest climates, you could theoretically survive any somewhat habitable planet

[bold dove]

The Genesis-simulation is to test all form of hazardous environments on alien worlds.
'Not' on the ship.

[bronze turtle]

Why doesn’t scorched earth have an overseer?

[rain dock]

Because they got lazy

[ornate hull]

I wanna see a mod for aberration were they just remove the cave ceiling

[rain dock]

Would be kind of fun, but a loooot of work

[ornate hull]

Ya

But you could go just take 13 hours delete all the roof mesh and not do anything else with it

[rain dock]

It would look terrible

[ornate hull]

That's not the point of it

[digital flower]

I think an mod which adds Aberration pre destroyed would be more interesting

Just to see what other people have in mind for what the map would've looked like

[bold dove]

This is hilarious

Watch the recent update video about the Survival Stories by NeddytheNoodle

[digital flower]

Oh shit that's very ambitious

[bold dove]

Partially being helped by yours truly.

[digital flower]

[bold dove]

There's a reason why i call myself "Rockwell" or now 'well' at the end.
Anytime you see Rockwell on his Island's survival-stories and beyond, say 'hi'

[teal kelp]

Me dying

Of cringe because poglin became cringe

[bold dove]

Poggers

[teal kelp]

Deez -dies of cringe-

[pseudo nimbus]

The rest of the world: enjoying element
Santiago: I'm going to tell you somthing that's going to change your life, have you ever heard, of element infused NFTs?

[solemn linden]

so that's why it became corrupt

it all makes sense now :0

[pseudo nimbus]

Would anything interesting happen if all the protagonists had infinite white phosphorus access on hand at all times?

Enemies: I have a bullet for you
gets burnt alive

[solemn linden]

The characters would spend half of the explorer notes just easily burning everything in their path to death, but then get slaughtered when the overseer has enough and engineers a creature that is immune to it specifically to spite them.

[light burrow]

What is the lore

[pseudo nimbus]

Funny rock

[tender wasp]

Click pins, click links, read lore

[light burrow]

Pet rock?

[light burrow]

Haha right

[bold dove]

No

[ornate hull]

Is this the fortnite lore channel

[rain dock]

Yup, you came to the right place

[ornate hull]

Thank God I thought I was lost

[digital flower]

Wait I thought this was the Roblox lore channel

[lyric tendon]

this is the Anti-Lore Lore Channel

[bronze turtle]

its the among us lore channel

[digital flower]

So its not the Morbius lore channel

[thorn sierra]

Hey y'all, I am very interested to see how the animated series is gonna work out

[lyric tendon]

i am still mixed

[thorn sierra]

Ive been here for a long time and know all of the lore through playing, and being a part of this chat. After seeing an image with more characters I am very interested

[lyric tendon]

no need to pm me, i have seen it

still M I X E D

[thorn sierra]

Ah

My apologies

[tender wasp]

I am affraid of the animated

[thorn sierra]

As am I

It has the ability to be great, but idk if it will be executed correctly

Or for people outside of this chat to really understand

[lyric tendon]

starting with swapping Mei for Helena in the Trailer is concerning

[still pollen]

It will not be for the hardcore.

[lyric tendon]

welcome to the Lore Nerdz channel, where we are Hardcore for Lore

[still pollen]

lol - the channel may be, but the animated series will not ❤️

[lyric tendon]

and that is why "the Video Game Curse" exists

[still pollen]

My plan is to pretend like I don't care, and enjoy it anyway.

[small rune]

So you saying we need to be fully in-depth with the lore to understand the animated show?

[thorn sierra]

Wait what?

[tender wasp]

I doubt that

[lyric tendon]

apparently that scene is from Mei Yin's note

[tender wasp]

I think the lore people might be the most disappointed in the end cause of changes

[thorn sierra]

No I never did, what I'm saying is that it should be executed correctly, a good show gets you captivated and goes pretty in depth does it not?

[thorn sierra]

Ooh, rip

[lyric tendon]

now you know why i felt disappointed the moment the trailer started

[tender wasp]

Ouch.. als why is Santiago wearing a gen 2 fed tek suite on Abs obviously?

[lyric tendon]

i was like this is not what Helena Does

[still pollen]

This will be two full scoops of recruiting new survivors and a 1/4 scoop of fan service.

[small rune]

That might just have been an example or an early/cut part?

[tender wasp]

That was the same for me but cause helena never felt like a super mei like fighter

[still pollen]

Maybe a half a scoop of fan service..

[heavy sandal]

just because she never wrote about having to murdered some dudes doesnt mean she didnt have to sometimes

[lyric tendon]

hope so or do a marvel and swap the characters in the actual cut

[lyric tendon]

SE stated she really dont until she is trained by one of the towns people

[digital flower]

I am mixed about the animated series and a second game

But I'm more excited for the series tbh

[thorn sierra]

Honestly they can still pull it off, they just have to be careful, but with the extra and new characters, it'll be hard

Oh hey Boutansha

[digital flower]

Yo

[tender wasp]

I am still affraid of the series and what they will do with the chars we know..

[thorn sierra]

True I don't want them to be badly represented

[lyric tendon]

as a body actor for Ned's stuff, i felt offended and suffered Immersional Damage

[digital flower]

As long as they keep Santiago the same as Abb + Extinction I dont care

Id hate to see them make him what the current Santiago is

[tender wasp]

Same, I hope they keep the Abs/Ext Santiago from the notes, design and character wise and not make him Vin Diesel version

[thorn sierra]

Tbh I thought they were gonna pull a pulp fiction type of style to pull all the characters together, I want to be captivated like I was reading the notes

[digital flower]

I feel like they might go for a less lore friendly representation of the characters for the people who aren't that well versed in the lore

[thorn sierra]

Also seeing Santiago and no Diana, or Raia or John mayer nervous

Makes*

[digital flower]

Then again that just completely undermines the characters from the main source material

Since at that point they may as well be different people

[lyric tendon]

there is john

[digital flower]

Tbh it seems like the series will probably just uncover the events of the island

[lyric tendon]

but ye no Raia nor Diana is concerning

[tender wasp]

Which would be sad cause then they are not the same characters anymore.

[digital flower]

With maybe a few appearances of Santiago

[lyric tendon]

god no

[tender wasp]

Which makes it even more horrid..

[lyric tendon]

i dont want to imagine Santiago being the "puppet master" of what is going on in the ARKs

[tender wasp]

I should make my story into an animated…

[lyric tendon]

the overseer is enough my guy

[tender wasp]

Oh god, please not..

[digital flower]

Isnt there a whole bunch of new characters as well

[tender wasp]

Yes

[digital flower]

I wonder how their going to tie that in with the lore

[lyric tendon]

ye 3 non-note characters and 1 dossier character

[digital flower]

That's IF it will even be canon

[tender wasp]

Obviously even a lost lover of Nerva

[digital flower]

If its not canon I'll probably be fine with that just so I know the characters from the source remain the same

[digital flower]

Dossier character?

[lyric tendon]

the one with the dodo and Parasaur

she is in the Parasaur Dossier that gave Helena a Parasaur

[digital flower]

Oh really I never really paid attention to the dossier images from the island so I've probably missed a few details

[tender wasp]

Most of the dossier chars look off anyways like Rockwell or Nerva

Both look more like the actors

[lyric tendon]

meanwhile Fed logo swap in AB

[digital flower]

[tender wasp]

I really hope they go for old Santiago design and don’t swap it in the Abs/ext notes for vin diesel faces urgh

[lyric tendon]

it might happen....unfortunately

[tender wasp]

That would be horrid and disrespectful towards the char..

[lyric tendon]

#HelmetStaysOnSantiago

[pseudo nimbus]

#gen2isnotmysantiago

[digital flower]

^

[tender wasp]

#keep Abs/Ext design for Santiago

[lyric tendon]

it's like the ARK version of #PawsOnFloor pokemon meme at this point

[digital flower]

I'm just wondering how they'll tie Santiago in with what I'm thinking would be The Island season

[pseudo nimbus]

The characters will be talking about the city instead

[digital flower]

Like would he tell the backstory of the ARKs or something

[tender wasp]

Maybe the Island will become abs

[pseudo nimbus]

He won't be there and all the characters are talking about the city
Schitzo ending

[lyric tendon]

i wont mind if there is a prolouge about the Tek War and ProtoARKS

[tender wasp]

Or season 1 is Island and season 2 abs

[thorn sierra]

That's why I'm nervous about Santiago

[tender wasp]

In the conzept art he carries a bulbdog which hints to Abs

But also a fed suit..

[lyric tendon]

tbh AB is just both Fed and URE

[digital flower]

Where would they fit scorched?

[lyric tendon]

i dont mind the fed suit that much

[tender wasp]

Yeah but he makes the URE Version on abs

[pseudo nimbus]

||URW United Republic of women||

[lyric tendon]

that is also fair

[lyric tendon]

that's Helena, Diana, and Mei time

[pseudo nimbus]

And how big was URE compared to Terran in terms of land

[tender wasp]

No one knows

[digital flower]

I think they each owned one side of the planet?

[lyric tendon]

depends what countries aligned what faction

[digital flower]

Or had an base of operations on opposite ends

[pseudo nimbus]

I think it was split at the equator

[lyric tendon]

i wish they just make a Tek War RTS instead

[pseudo nimbus]

That would be cringe but fun

[digital flower]

Hell yeah got my tek atv carry my tek troopers

[pseudo nimbus]

Imagine a titan killstreak

[digital flower]

I'd want to see a movie about the Fed & URE conflict

[pseudo nimbus]

It would be cringe

[lyric tendon]

that would something Vin would fit in

[digital flower]

Do we even know anything about tek era Santiago?

Since the Abb/Ext and Gen versions are different

[pseudo nimbus]

Yes

Quite a bit

[lyric tendon]

aside being the sole person who made Tek apparently

[digital flower]

I mainly mean his personality

[tender wasp]

Not much.. only that he lived alone in a villa in the mountains and avoided people

[digital flower]

not that type of personality

[tender wasp]

Also he stole data frome the ure and was a cyberterrorist and named Camacho (abs/ext version)

[lyric tendon]

Tony Stark with Crippling Anxiety

[pseudo nimbus]

And hes the only instance I've seen a south American character actually exist

Escobar dosent count

[digital flower]

So pretty similar to Santiago during Abb when he was somwwhat of an social recluse

[lyric tendon]

dang it

[hard plover]

Hello

[digital flower]

Hello

[tender wasp]

Yes and I don’t know why but the Abs/ext version allways felt like he is from Spain

[pseudo nimbus]

Why the fuck would a character with the same name as a city in Chile be even remotely Spanish to you

[lyric tendon]

i mean

[tender wasp]

He even mentioned he hates to deal with people and people hated to deal with him and Ceos from feds avoided talking to him in person if possible

[pseudo nimbus]

Tek FaceTime

[tender wasp]

Santiago is super common name in spain.

[pseudo nimbus]

Oh fu- disentigrates

[tender wasp]

And guess who went to south america a looong time ago ?

[digital flower]

Pretty sure in the ark 2 trailer one of his spoken languages is Spanish so XD

[pseudo nimbus]

Yes and so did the portugese

Anyways

[tender wasp]

So he could have been Spanish or portugese as well

[lyric tendon]

its called colonialism

[pseudo nimbus]

Fjorder animated

[tender wasp]

So for me he allways felt more Spanish (European)

[pseudo nimbus]

Secret cursed ending

Wait

[digital flower]

The ARK 2 trailer says his regional origin is the Sao Paulo Municipality

[pseudo nimbus]

Since ragnarok is viking doomsday
Wouldn't that mean the map ragnarok is also nordic?

[pseudo nimbus]

He sent people to Brazil

[tender wasp]

Ark 2 also changed his last name i

[pseudo nimbus]

Chad santiago sending people to his own country

[pseudo nimbus]

The hell is a da costa

[tender wasp]

In the extinction notes his last name is Camacho

[digital flower]

Idk sounds likes it would be the name of an Spanish cafe

I'm English so I just assume anything is Spanish if it has "da" in it

[pseudo nimbus]

Considering he advanced humanity, same

[pseudo nimbus]

[digital flower]

Thats if countries were still even a thing

[pseudo nimbus]

The sun never sets on the Terran federation

[pseudo nimbus]

There were atleast 2, and judging by the names of the 2, probably the only ones

[tender wasp]

Ure sounds more like an alliance of countries, same with feds

Like Nato for example

[pseudo nimbus]

Makes sense

[digital flower]

Probably the whole its the future so every race and country are united under an single organisation type deal

[pseudo nimbus]

But I don't know what a terran is, it sounds like Scandinavian for world domination

[digital flower]

Terran is another word for Earth

[pseudo nimbus]

collapses

[digital flower]

What does URE even stand for United Republicans of Earth?

If so that sounds awful

[pseudo nimbus]

United Republic of earth

[pseudo nimbus]

United Republicans of earth

[digital flower]

Also the word Feds instantly just makes me think of cops I honestly don't know what else to associate that with

[pseudo nimbus]

It calms you down when you realize federation is just another word for union when used in that context

[digital flower]

Wait so are you saying Santiago is a communist gasp

[tender wasp]

United Republic of Earth, if I am not mistaken

[pseudo nimbus]

I mean, he single handedly advanced, collapsed, and save humanity

[digital flower]

Refuses to elaborate -leaves

[tender wasp]

Santiago actually joins the feds cause the URE are all big mouthed Idiots

[pseudo nimbus]

"Rrspawned again"

[tender wasp]

He states something like that in his notes

[digital flower]

God no screw that quote

[tender wasp]

Most cringe part in whole gen 2 and most unrealistic behavior

[digital flower]

Even HLNA had more character

[tender wasp]

And nothing Santiago would ever say

[digital flower]

Unfortunately that's the Santiago we're now stuck with

[tender wasp]

I bet Vinnie thought that would be super cool

[pseudo nimbus]

Disney character or British chemistry
Antisocial genius or social idiot
That's what gen2 did

[tender wasp]

Not me. I simply eredicate Gen 2 and will not play Ark 2 and make my own Ark inspired AU story

[pseudo nimbus]

Aussie scientist or cringe robot

[tender wasp]

No flawed Santiago and at least I can try to make him a believable char.

[digital flower]

When he said respawned again I instantly thought of the "ah shit here we go again" meme

[lyric tendon]

i rather have the GTA quote everyday

[digital flower]

Yeah one is actually funny

[tender wasp]

And not a cliche action hero with an actor were a stone has more talent to express feelings

[lyric tendon]

Several people are typing

[pseudo nimbus]

When I heard "respawned again" I was tempted to dashboard from the cringe

[tender wasp]

Also for me it is super cringe how he walks out there like nothing happens ans acts like he is having a day off on the beach

[pseudo nimbus]

It's a cliche as you probably are already aware of

[solemn linden]

Watch as Santiago actually looks like himself in Abberation and Extinction but they then retcon it so that Rockwell's tampering with the colony ship's systems is actually why the Gen 2 / ARK 2 version of Santiago looks like Vin Diesel and has a different last name. Basically another Gabriel type situation, except this time it's just Santiago's consciousness in Vin's body lmao

[tender wasp]

“Dis is the esyyy paaart…”

[digital flower]

As far as I'm concerned gen 2 Santiago doesn't exist

[tender wasp]

I knew it as soon as I saw Vin Diesel

[pseudo nimbus]

Introduction of gen2 santiago is when I wished I had access to chemical warfare

[digital flower]

Yeah thats why earlier I was concerned that the animated series will most likely be less lore friendly and more action focused

To give the lore an appeal to the uneducated masses

[tender wasp]

I saw Diesel and child in the trailer andd dehype was real.. seeing the orks and who diesel should be made it even worse lol

[pseudo nimbus]

I'm snapping my neck if ab/ext santiago is same as gen2 because of Vin diesel

[tender wasp]

This is what I fear too

[digital flower]

If their not 40k orcs I dont care

[tender wasp]

They look a lot like Lotrs orks

[lyric tendon]

it's ORKS

[solemn linden]

You just know that Vin walked in and went "hmmmm a character that I have absolutely nothing in common with and is literally the exact opposite of me? I'm sure that despite only ever playing myself in just about everything I've ever been in (except for a tree that says like 3-4 words at most), I'll be absolutely perfect for this role!"

[lyric tendon]

not aliens, ORKS

[pseudo nimbus]

This should be in animated series chat

[lyric tendon]

i mean it's Lore related

[digital flower]

Dammit

[tender wasp]

Lol yeah it feels like this..

[pseudo nimbus]

Real lore question: what are with the lotus trees on gen2

[lyric tendon]

trees

[digital flower]

Me and da boyz raidin hoomans on a primitive planet

[tender wasp]

They could have made a@new char for him so easily.. even in the animated

[solemn linden]

To be fair they're talking about both ARK 2 and the animated series so technically it doesn't fit in either channel. The complaining about Santiago not being lore accurate makes it more lore related than anything else.

[pseudo nimbus]

Lotus is a flower but it's a t r e e in Rockwell garden

[lyric tendon]

blame Rockwell

[pseudo nimbus]

Ok good point

[digital flower]

Idk element mutation or something

[tender wasp]

Allways blame rockwell

[pseudo nimbus]

Yes

But why a lotus of all things

[lyric tendon]

because Rockwell

[pseudo nimbus]

It makes me think that pre Rockwell the left ring was completely underwater

[solemn linden]

If they just say Gen 2 Santiago got full on Gabrieled by Rockwell, that would honestly be better than having no explanation for the name and appearance change lmao

If it doesn't make sense - blame Rockwell

[pseudo nimbus]

My theory is that he's on drugs

Because he acts nothing like ab/ext

[lyric tendon]

space drugs

[digital flower]

At least Rockwells character probably won't be any different in the animated series

[pseudo nimbus]

"Uma, Uma! We need to cook"

[solemn linden]

Rockwell injected element, but Gen 2 Santiago snorted it

[digital flower]

hopefully

[lyric tendon]

umm.. his voice intro may feel he is insane already

[digital flower]

Well he was already pretty cunning and manipulative during Island and Scorched

[pseudo nimbus]

It's because it's David tennant

[digital flower]

That elements some good shit

[pseudo nimbus]

And in gen2 he might was well be a Disney villain

[solemn linden]

To be fair I think they were just teasing his descent into madness. It's a trailer after all so it doesn't have to take place at any specific point in the timeline.

[digital flower]

He just needs an entire music track dedicated to him

[digital flower]

They'll probably try and tie abb somewhere in there since they already have Santiago as a part of the cast

Or they'll just tie in Santiago somehow

[pseudo nimbus]

So element dust is a drug?

[digital flower]

Since I feel like most of the story will be focused on the island

[lyric tendon]

yep

[digital flower]

Yeah why do you think Feroxes love element so much

They've been made that way? NAH their full blown addicts

[pseudo nimbus]

That makes me think of what they'll add that never happened on the island

[solemn linden]

Well yes. Have you ever made a recipe that is entirely made of element dust? It's great!

[digital flower]

Thats if itll even be canon idk if its already been confirmed or not

[pseudo nimbus]

If it's successful, it's Canon, it it flops, it isnt

[digital flower]

Yeah that'll probably be the result

[lyric tendon]

i feel they just speed run SE and maybe make a movie special in Ext

[tender wasp]

Dollie said something like kinda canon.. maybe I can find the exact quote

[digital flower]

Unless they pull the stunt of parts of it being canon and some parts entirely filler

Which I really hope not

[lyric tendon]

i mean there are side characters with big names

expect filler

[solemn linden]

I'm hoping that the animated series will go over the lore of each map in order, but so far 90% of the cast that we know about appears to be for the island and the only hints of the later maps are Santiago and the teaser for Rockwell's corruption in the trailer. I swear if they put Santiago and big tentacle monster Rockwell on the island that would be terrible.

[tender wasp]

it would be meh

[digital flower]

I'm mainly concerned about the lack of animated series news

[solemn linden]

Hopefully the whole not 100% canon thing just means they add a little bit of extra detail to further flesh out the story, like how we know Helena is getting backstory

[digital flower]

Hopefully that'll be brought up in the summer game fest and xbox showcase along with ark 2 but chances are probably not

[lyric tendon]

i just dont like the swapping of Helena in Mei's scene in the trailer

[tender wasp]

I think there are a bunch of more changes than only adding the chars.

[digital flower]

Also aren't we supposed to be getting the animated series this year as well think it'll be delayed along with ark 2?

[pseudo nimbus]

Ext deserves a movie the most out of the story maps

[digital flower]

Do you think the animated series version of scorched would have an overseer

Thats if it'll make it past an first season

[lyric tendon]

i mean if Helena stars the show, then ye, it's a possibility that we will get a SE ascension ending there

[pseudo nimbus]

Don't they already have like 14 episodes already done? I think it could come it this year

[tender wasp]

That is what Dollie said about the series:
"well, we've taken some liberties with the lore and characters for the sake of good storytelling in a different medium. I personally think most will be okay with it and enjoy it, but if you are an absolute purist, yes you might pick at parts that are not "on point to the (game) lore" "

[pseudo nimbus]

They completely butchered santiago its way more than just "not on point to game lore"

[lyric tendon]

and swaped Mei for Helena in the trailer

[digital flower]

Wait really?

[pseudo nimbus]

Yeah

[tender wasp]

I agree with you, only pasted what was said.

[solemn linden]

It wasn't really a very specific scene, like there is nothing about it that strictly ties it to a certain character. Sure, Helena wasn't as big on killing as Mei, but she would still have to defend herself if necessary and that scene in the trailer is one such occasion. Hell, looking over the notes now, I don't even see any scene for Mei that actually matches it.

[lyric tendon]

check Ned's

[pseudo nimbus]

The paramour fight scene happened to mei

[tender wasp]

And "Some" is allways something open to debate how much it really is

[digital flower]

I can't wait to see the inconsistencies

We'll probably see some people divided when it releases picking sides for which lore is the most accurate depiction of the game

Especially if its people new to the lore

[pseudo nimbus]

"We would like to invite you on a journey, a tale of an instrument of death, watch us as we pass, the complaints"

[digital flower]

[lyric tendon]

"dont say you love the anime without enjoying the manga"

[tender wasp]

SO one thing will be good for the animated.. the OST XD

[digital flower]

True

[lyric tendon]

Gareth Coker saves the day again

[digital flower]

And probably David Tennant hes one of my favourite actors

But thats just my own bias

[lyric tendon]

screw my spelling

[pseudo nimbus]

"I took my Twitter phone off the tool shed, it's telling me I've to to complain about the mistake"

[tender wasp]

Good thing is, I can get the OST sepperate XD

[digital flower]

And the remixes of the OST 👀

[tender wasp]

I am fine with Tennant but I am not very big on him as Rockwell.

[digital flower]

I want my animated series vocoded with gangstas paradise please

[pseudo nimbus]

He was cringe in gen2, I'm on teh fence

[digital flower]

Wdym?

[lyric tendon]

he is too "stereotypical cartoony villain" vibe

[pseudo nimbus]

injects element vocoder to gangsters paradise

[solemn linden]

Same reply as I put in Ned's discord: If that is the same scene they changed it a lot. Like it went from besieged village to random ambush at a water fall. Mei shoots the killing arrow in the note, whereas Helena stabs the guy with it in the trailer. In the note the guy has a gun and it isn't specified if either of them are riding a parasaur (although that could just be Mei's lack of knowledge about dinosaur names).

[digital flower]

Yeah I can see that

[tender wasp]

And I really dislike the Nerva design.. and I really like Gerard Butler normaly

[digital flower]

His death was probably the only thing which made me forget that fact

Nerva looks too old, Rockwell too young

Should be the opposite way around

[tender wasp]

Nerva should be in his 30th

[lyric tendon]

it's clearly a swap, instead of Mei and the Raptor, it's Helena and the Parasaur with her melee arrow

[digital flower]

Also I dont remember Helena being much of a fighter

[pseudo nimbus]

She was a sniper gaming

[solemn linden]

It just seems like a generic combat situation, different dino, different weapons, different location. There really isn't much in common aside from both just being how combat happens on the island.

[digital flower]

If the animated series is successful it makes me excited for the Abb and Extinction saga

[lyric tendon]

the Melee Arrow is a VERY Mei Yin thing to do considering she is full on Hax in the beginning anyways

[tender wasp]

Darn I can't find the how much canon it will be quote of dollie.

[solemn linden]

Well yeah it isn't really mentioned much in the notes, but you'd assume she has at least some basic combat capabilities since she is surviving on a dinosaur infested island. She'd be very much dead if she couldn't at least defend herself.

[pseudo nimbus]

Bro the no fall damage when dismounting was Intentional by the devs judging by the animated trailer

[solemn linden]

I mean yeah, Mei is definitely the one who would abuse glitches and things that you can't actually do in game lmao

[lyric tendon]

she only knows how to hide and let someone else be eaten, until she learns how to gun in SE

[digital flower]

Why hasn't Mei been banned from official servers yet she literally bought a giga to a boss arena

[tender wasp]

She also used admincheat to tame a Rock Drake

[pseudo nimbus]

Bruh Mei tranq tamed a rock drake

[lyric tendon]

because Mei is Admin Aboose

[pseudo nimbus]

She has an admin gun

She also autounlockengrams to learn tek

[lyric tendon]

mei has secretly have the WC dev hat skin in her inventory

[digital flower]

Let's not forget how she literally banished rockwell to the pits of Abb

[pseudo nimbus]

Since she only did monke she couldn't possibly have full suit

[digital flower]

Anyone else feel like Santiago spawned in Mek bps since the meks in extinction are so much better than the ones we have

[lyric tendon]

who needs that when she just GCM all the way

[digital flower]

Literally tiers above ascendant

[pseudo nimbus]

Considering he litterrally invented tek and meks, no, he isn't a hacker like mei

[lyric tendon]

nah he spec to all crafting skill with the capped BP he got from Mei

[tender wasp]

Also the Meks he makes are synced to the pilots, ours are not ^^

[lyric tendon]

the real ARK Animated Lore is inside this chat all along

[pseudo nimbus]

Litterrqlly copied titanfall with the "pilot and mek are 1"

[solemn linden]

Ah yeah, it seems like while her aim isn't great she was at least able to fight some creatures on the island, but the scorched earth notes make it clear that she didn't use any guns on the island and couldn't even bring herself to fire arrows at the new legion. The trailer scene definitely seems a bit out of character for Helena, but it still isn't all that similar to that Mei note.

[lyric tendon]

remember that trailer is just a tidbit to the whole story, it wasn't meant to be an ambush all along

it's as close to Mei's Note than Helena's

we dont even see the ambush itself, she just chased

[solemn linden]

It just doesn't seem similar enough to say it's a copy of that particular note. Like sure, Helena is acting more like Mei in that scene, but the scene itself doesn't match any particular Mei note aside from just being generic combat involving dinosaurs and arrows. If it is based on that note, they have changed it to the point of it being nearly unrecognizable.

[lyric tendon]

it's kinda recognizable to us... the people who read the notes

the trailer is just a cut from Mei's Note, the combat description is 1 is to 1 matched

it would be different if helena is just running away and let the flak guy be spotted by an allo or something

[solemn linden]

I wouldn't say 1 to 1. The note features Mei fighting a guy with a gun who is riding an unknown dinosaur. The battle seems to takes place in the middle of a village since that is the only setting that the note mentions. Mei attacks first after finding that this guy has just raided this village. Mei shoots the guys mount in the throat and then once he tumbled off of it she shoots him multiple times in the back.

The scene in the trailer however has Helena fight a guy riding a raptor at the top of a waterfall. The guy ambushes her in the forest prior to the fight at the water fall. He is wielding a pike and a sword. Helena falls off the waterfall then shoots the raptor in the head. The guy falls off the raptor and immediately starts swinging with his sword. He breaks Helena's bow with the sword and is about to kill her when suddenly the parasaur tail wacks him into Helena's arrow.

The similarities start and end at some guy riding a dinosaur attacking an important character only to get killed by an arrow. This basically just sums up early game combat in ARK. Like it is the most basic and generic possible scene for a story about people riding dinosaurs. Sure it's out of character for Helena, but none of it is a Mei specific thing either.

[lyric tendon]

we got some new character pics now sadly i cant share here unless anyone here has access to Ned's discord or the ARK theorists discord

[tender wasp]

They are also on twitter

[lyric tendon]

it's official, the only lore accurate in the series is Bob

[tender wasp]

[lyric tendon]

like he is very accurate to the game compared to absolutely everyone in the series

the freaking Default setting Bob lmao

i know who i freaking stan now

i like how the captain is just ATLAS skins

[flint palm]

Although, the entire extinction dlc gave me Pacific Rim vibes

[dreamy prairie]

i mean the files for the titans are literally named "kaiju" lol

[lyric tendon]

me eating element dust be like

[lyric tendon]

Yet you can use it on your custom recipe

[jovial dagger]

Supposedly element fell from space (may of been the meteor that killed the Dinosaurs in universe) before it started to spread below the planet and eventually people found it and whatnot

[bold dove]

Correct

But it's 100% not what killed the dinosaurs

Cause tek-based technology started the moment element came to Earth.
And that was around the 22nd-24th century.

[jovial dagger]

It may have just been a while before they actually discovered element because if it fell millions of years ago it would be pretty buried in the earth and people really didn’t have the technology to go that deep

It’s just may just that it’s what killed the dinosaurs but it’s but all means not confirmed

[bold dove]

No, pretty sure they specifically stated that they found element around the 22nd-24th century.

And it buried underground, cause it's a fungus like alien virus.
It was rooting itself.

[jovial dagger]

Yeah I know about that, I’m saying as of our time right now we have a difficult time trying to dig deep enough to reach the level that element may of been but by that time technology like that would more than likely be possible

[bold dove]

Right.
But they didn't dig up element

[pseudo nimbus]

Respawned again

[bold dove]

'overly aggressively groans' "HMM!"

"Respawned again."

"Something tells me that this'll be the easy part."

"Smoking a joint again"

"Making pasta again"

"Taking the dog out for a walk again"

"Baking a cake again"

"Hmmmmmm"

"Reloading my crashed save file again"

[pseudo nimbus]

Cakewell can you clarify

[bold dove]

Can i?

[pseudo nimbus]

Yes you can

Idfk what's going on

[bold dove]

Yes

[small rune]

Parts like that make me not like vin lol

[bold dove]

It's a inside joke, that i like to parody the fuck out of his "Respawned again" like

I made a video of me saying "Respawned again" for 11 minutes

[small rune]

Respawned agin on loop

[bold dove]

"I stubbed my toe again"

[pseudo nimbus]

@bold dove this reminds me of "my dog stepped on a bee"

[bold dove]

Any of y'all wanna see the shitty video?

[pseudo nimbus]

Yes

[bold dove]

Don't mind the thumbnail

[small rune]

Lol

[pseudo nimbus]

I tamed a giga again

I bought a 15lb sledgehammer again

[teal kelp]

Found it

:)

[ornate hull]

What's it called

[teal kelp]

Respawned again

[ornate hull]

I can't find it XD

[teal kelp]

Lore nerdz explaining why you can breed voidwyrms (they are robots)

[lyric tendon]

R e p l i c a t i o n

Tbh IRL breeding is just a meat version of a file transfer

And birth is just a meat version of a 3d printer

[jolly gate]

Is discord cannon in the ark universe?

[bold dove]

I always assumed since element is literally everything, from a metal to flesh. That it's able to creature a similar process to birthing.

[ornate hull]

Dodos reproduce through budding

[tranquil oxide]

Can someone explain to me a whole ark lore in 10 words or less

[rain dock]

Element makes Earth kaboom, spaceship ghost fix, crazy bad guy

[tranquil oxide]

Thank you, my friend made me a bet i can't say whole ark's lore in 10 words or less, thank you very much

[rain dock]

Bold words in a ark server jajajaja

[glad crow]

Kind of realised how it sounds so added a disclaimer.

[digital flower]

No but there's cursed lore

[pseudo nimbus]

Tell me more

[feral phoenix]

element still exists btw

[warped herald]

But its gonna be unable in the next game kek

[fallow sapphire]

Element can be, tek tier cant be

[tender wasp]

No Tek does not mean there can't be something powered by Element that is not Tek.

[glad crow]

Or as has been said previously, something that uses element as part of the world, not equipment. (Aberration and the corrupted from extinction.)

[lyric tendon]

Corrupted shotgun let's go!

[bold dove]

Right.
Element could still be a heavy story-focus in ARK-2.
We just wont have 'tek' the technology tier.

[tender wasp]

Ark2 will have TikTok instead XD

[digital flower]

Oh no

[lyric tendon]

No

[pseudo nimbus]

No

[lyric tendon]

Plz no

[bold dove]

We just fucking see Vin-Diesel do the default Fortnite dance.

[tender wasp]

[fickle roost]

ow

[small rune]

Hell yea!

[plain plover]

[bronze turtle]

If Survivors were somewhere in between basic humans and homo deus it would explain how fast they can run and carry and craft things so quickly

I noticed at the end of Abberation the Survivor has a Homo Deus body and is "downloaded" to the earth.

[lyric tendon]

that's ascension, it does the same with the Island and (possibly) SE

ascension is literally just downloading your to either the same ARK or a different ARK

[plain plover]

The survivors are able to modify themselves to in-human proportions using the implant, probably the obelisks are turning the world into an RPG game

[lyric tendon]

SE be like

Overseer: ooh you managed to survive all that and managed to gain some technological advancement?

what about a difficulty tweak -spawns mantises then wyverns-

[bold dove]

Overseer: "Man, the game's getting too easy. I should raise the difficulty"

[lyric tendon]

Ab is what happened if you delete System32 in the middle of the game yet it's still playable

[rapid lance]

I wonder what rockwell did while he was waiting for us in Abb

[lyric tendon]

A lot of things

Also he is not "waiting for us" he is cursed to be the replacement for the overseer forever (until Ext ending)

[rapid lance]

Ik but what did he do while he was cursed? Xd

[brazen sparrow]

Drink the kool-aid, of course

[lyric tendon]

He took a swim

[rapid lance]

In the radioactive waters? Oh yeah my lil bro did that too once when he was new in the game

[formal jay]

How far apart is the time that helena and meiyin and Rockwell etc were on the arks to our player’s arrival?

Cos it seems that just as our player makes it on to extinction Mei yin and Diana are at Arat prime

But I was told this by one of my friends so it could be fake idk I only get explorer notes for exp

[bold dove]

Never confirmed, but seeing how old the stone structures are. Probably a few hundred to a thousand years.

[formal jay]

But then wouldn’t mei yin and Diana be long dead?

[bold dove]

Nah, their tek village they made is way too old looking to be 'right' after.

[bold dove]

Yep.

And they're never talked about ever again.

[formal jay]

Maybe a few years, cos the destruction could be from carno battles or raptors or rexes

[bold dove]

Why would a fucking rex realistically go after a stone house?

[formal jay]

They’re dumb and attack anything

[bold dove]

Not everything in gameplay is canon

[formal jay]

Eh

[bold dove]

And the dinosaurs on the ARK's in the notes are hyper-intelligent actually.

[formal jay]

Maybe in a rex fell on the house after getting hit too hard by a trike

[bold dove]

Hints why a giga, a creature that lives by itself and doesn't have a pack mentality can be ordered just fine.

[bold dove]

They did that with all 20+ structures?

[formal jay]

I also said raptors and carnos

[bold dove]

Yeah, no.

[formal jay]

You never know

Carnos have big horns

[warped herald]

Bootleg know what they're talking about

[formal jay]

And other survivors could break the houses

[formal jay]

Trust me I know

[bold dove]

I wouldn't go 'that' far.
But what they're saying is a bit....'interesting'

There's also the decaying buildings on scorched.
I figure those where also destroyed by raptors and carno's bumping into them?

[formal jay]

Death worms and wyverns

[bold dove]

Why the fuck is there a deathworm in the middle of the map?

And wyverns.

[formal jay]

For the ones in the outer area of the map

[warped herald]

Death worms are more like a repellent to keep people way from the desert dunes

[formal jay]

And have you never seen a wyvern in the center of a map?

[bold dove]

Think you're looking a bit too far into it.

[warped herald]

Makes sense

[bold dove]

Not anymore, since they've made it that they despawn outside of their natural spawn regions.

[formal jay]

So they might destroy peoples houses on the outer parts of the map to drive them off

[formal jay]

Today I was mauled to death by a lightening wyvern at green ob

And I play pve

[bold dove]

Green-Ob is next to the dunes

[formal jay]

But not the wyvern trench

[bold dove]

Wyverns can spawn in the dunes

Rare, but the dunes is part of their spawn-pool

[warped herald]

Wyverns spawn on the mountain, so it makes sense a wyvern is near green ob

[formal jay]

I only see wyverns at the trench or random places around the map

On abberation reapers and nameless probably broke the houses

[bold dove]

Reapers came to the fertile-chamber?
Where there's natural sunlight?

[formal jay]

And on extinction we all know it was probably titans and corrupted creatures

[formal jay]

Idk

[warped herald]

The ab one kinda out of their for me

[bold dove]

Again, you're looking too far into it.
But there's nothing that will change your mind. Is there?

[formal jay]

They wandered in like wyverns into the middle of the map

[formal jay]

HELL NO

[bold dove]

Figured

[formal jay]

You always have to think of better solutions than they just corroded over time!

[warped herald]

Wasnt it stated the the titans and corrupted wander to place that look like they have signs of civilization?

[lyric tendon]

Sometimes the best answer are the simplest of answers

[bold dove]

Yet, that's the most realistic.
And also was confirmed by the writer.
But i'll let you keep doing you.

[formal jay]

So houses aren’t a sign of civilisation?

[bold dove]

Not if they're empty

[warped herald]

^

[formal jay]

Oh so the titans can smell humans?

Humans don’t smell like anything except BO

[bold dove]

Can sense any form of non-element based life.

[warped herald]

Maybe not smell, more like sense them

[bold dove]

Everything has a smell.
We humans have too shitty noses to smell anything that's not strong.

[formal jay]

So wear tek armour with element in it

Then you have element all around you

[bold dove]

Like wearing raw-meat in a lions den

[formal jay]

Exactly

[bold dove]

So you're dead

[formal jay]

Exactly

[bold dove]

They also lived in tek-based housing.

The only thing that you've said so far that i can agree with.

[formal jay]

Wait how is that like wearing raw meat in a lions den

[bold dove]

Cause the very thing that's tracking you down.
You're wearing it.
That's a hivemind species

[warped herald]

Titans are made out of element

[formal jay]

Ohhhhhh

[bold dove]

Yep.
Titans 'are' the embodiment of element.

[formal jay]

I thought the king titans was the embodiment of element

[bold dove]

The King-Titan is just the signal that keeps all of the hivemind in check.

[warped herald]

All of them are embodiments of element. The king titan it the hivemind

[bold dove]

Like the antenna of a radio.
Once you remove the antenna, it's useless.

[formal jay]

Then how come once you kill the mecha king titans all the element starts to go away?

Or at least weaken?

[bold dove]

It's just weakened enough now that the ARK's can come back home and wipe the rest out.
And the first beam at the beginning is never talked about. But i figure it's smaller version of what the ARK's do to make sure whoever is commanding the ARK's to come back down is safe.

[formal jay]

Ok

I finally understand

And I agree

[bold dove]

Here's a lesson in ARK's lore that i had to learn.
ARK's lore is great. But honestly isn't 'that' deep.
Anything big you hear, is most likely fan-theories that have been so accepted.

[warped herald]

^

Facts

[formal jay]

This is the message that started an argument spanning over 20 minutes

[bold dove]

Like the 'why' element and corruption is bad.
Never confirmed.
Even The One Who Waits, a Homo-Deus only has theories in the notes.
So even in-universe, it's only theories.

Which is kind of great, but bad.
Cause it leaves it open that 'anyone' can have their own reasoning why element is bad.
Some think it's the embodiment of evil and corruption.
Some think it was mutated or corrupted during the tek-war, making a once peaceful hivemind into something horrible.

[warped herald]

Wc just keeping the lore small so they can expand a upon it in ark2. (Just guessing)

[formal jay]

I think it’s because it is actually intelligent and it saw the evil humans were using it for, so it decided to teach humans a lesson

[bold dove]

Yes!
I have a theory i like that was made from a friend.
I'll explain it.

[warped herald]

I think some higher technological advanced alien race sent element to see if we were civilized and we just proved them wrong with the tek war that lead to the events of ark

[bold dove]

(made from a friend)
Element was possibly created by a species to help jumpstart technology in other species.
When it was sent to Earth, humanity was in a horrible position. So when it came down to us, it jumpstarted us like crazy.
Element was created as the ultimate adaptable substance.
A substance that can adapt to become a gas, plasma, solid, or liquid.
But with the constant use of it during the tek-war. It adapted to become a weapon, since humans needed it for weapons in the war.
And so, i 'did' exactly that. And became 'too' good of a weapon.
So good that humanity could no longer control it.

[lyric tendon]

The writer already stated that it's not aliens

[formal jay]

If that is true, it still shows humans are intelligent as they were able to preserve life for a while

[bold dove]

Don't think they ever said that.
And to be fair. The writing can change.

[lyric tendon]

Knowing Gen 2 and ARK 2, ye

[bold dove]

And seeing how in Genesis-2, element is all over the galaxy.

[formal jay]

I like this theory

[lyric tendon]

I was thinking of Element is just a building block of life, not some sort of advanced tech by aliens

[formal jay]

In gen 2 how do the supply drops affect what you find on rocks in OUTER SPACE!

[lyric tendon]

HLN-A said something about scouts and supplies

[formal jay]

Ok

[lyric tendon]

It's a ship thing

[bold dove]

And it could very well be that.
I just like the general concept that war and death changed what element was originally used for.

[rain dock]

Interesting take. It's not really what the notes say, but since the notes are literally peoples journals you could make the argument that they only wrote what they saw instead of knowing the full truth of it

[runic dome]

i dont know much about ark lore, but i know they are trying to make better stronger humans, so my question is, are they winning?

[bold dove]

Seeing how said humans where able to kill the very thing that caused the apocalypses.
Yes

[runic dome]

cool

[pseudo nimbus]

Who made the tek saddles

[bold dove]

Us

[pseudo nimbus]

So your saying we invented tek saddles?

Because if we invented tek saddles that means that we invented tek and if we invented tek then that means we're santiago and if we're santiaho then that means we are Vin diesel
I knew it this entire time

[bold dove]

We did make a shit load of stuff

[pseudo nimbus]

Invent?

[bold dove]

For all we know, yes.
The box-arts can only be taken so serious as canon.

[rain dock]

Santiago didn't invent tek though lol

[pseudo nimbus]

Except he did

[pseudo nimbus]

Who did then

[rain dock]

Santiago made meks

The war that caused extinction was fought during Santiago time, but he was not the sole creator of tek gear

[bold dove]

No, he didn't.

Santiago was a major factor of the war.
But tek-based technology has existed in the ARK universe as early as the 23rd century.
Which the tek-war ended around the 24th-25th century.
So he wasn't even born when Tek was made.

Santiago basically was born in a tek-based society already.

[lyric tendon]

basically he didn't invented Tek, he just perfected it

[pseudo nimbus]

[tender wasp]

Actually he stole Tek blueprints from the URE and then altered and perfected them, like he did with the Tek armor for example.. is mentioned by Diana on Abs. He was a excellent Hacker and cyber terrorist and pretty well known for that.

[severe saffron]

Didnt he actually create the tek

@tender wasp

[tender wasp]

Nope

Tek was long befor him

[severe saffron]

further explain

[uneven falcon]

Wait Rockwell is not god?

[severe saffron]

interesting….

[tender wasp]

Tek was allready a thing when Santiago lived and on the Ark he stilöl knew how to make Tek stuff

[severe saffron]

wait how did the great war start

[tender wasp]

So he simply remembered how to make it thx to an eidetic memory

[uneven falcon]

So the Great War was basically 1800s George Washington?

[tender wasp]

War was between 24th and 25th century

[severe saffron]

what caused it

[tender wasp]

And it started cause of differences between Feds and URE

[severe saffron]

whos URE

[tender wasp]

you might best read the Explorer notes...

the links are pinned here

[uneven falcon]

Intrusive…

[uneven falcon]

Thank you

[severe saffron]

the intrusive thought kicked in

[bold dove]

So he's the complete opposite of inventing them.
He stole them

[tender wasp]

yes, regarding to the Abs notes yes

That is why the URE guys are not on good terms with him at the beginning.. only Diana who befriends him first not knowing who he is ^^

In Abs a big part of him is actually beeing a hacker and stealing stuff but also able to use stuff he finds to make something useful out of it. The Gateway project also originates partly from Data he finds in the Obelisks, etc.

Here is the part about the armor (Note #4):

"The more the camp's grown, the more tense things have become with the Feddies, so today I decided to break the ice. Whatever's happening between the United Republics of Earth and the Terran Federation in the rest of the world doesn’t matter. We're all in this together, right?
Of course, with my dumb luck, I didn't make nice with just any old Feddie. I unknowingly buddied up to Santiago. Yeah, as in the Santiago that's so famous he's only got one name, as in the guy who hacked into URE command one day and reverse engineered our latest TEK armor the next. That Santiago.
Turns out he's really into pop music. Super disappointed he's missing the new season of URE Idol. Go figure."

And that is Note #13 which explains he uses the data of the obelisk teleportation system to make the gateway project:

"I always knew Santiago would come up with a new plan! His taste in pop idols might be questionable, but if anyone can figure this place out, it's him.

After studying the obelisks in-depth, he's convinced that he can design an amped up version of their teleportation tech that can connect to more distant platforms. Specifically, it would be able to lock onto a signal we discovered a few weeks ago, one that's on a slightly different frequency than all the other obelisks we've detected. More importantly, it's far, far away from any of them.

The scale of this would be massive, we're talking years of work, but everyone agrees that it's our best move. The Gateway Project is officially underway."

[bronze turtle]

i cant fucking escape him i join a sever and hes just there

[sick canyon]

I must say, I am seriously disappointed by Santiagos poor taste in music

[lyric tendon]

Is it just me or the lore of SE is just Hardcore ARKpoc

[digital flower]

The orginial survivors were playing with the hunted mod on 100% hardcore mode no loss of engrams full death

Their the real ark players

They managed to tame dinosaurs and ocean creatures when I can't even stand up against a jellyfish

Ans they got tek without beating any boss wtf

[rain dock]

On se?

[sudden escarp]

Well I remember this era, and then everyone was complaining so much that the devs put bags to retrieve etc and i think it was a splendid idea lol because it was too painful, starting from scratch over and over

[digital flower]

Any ark

[digital flower]

Oh I know I was memeing about the characters in the lore

[rain dock]

I mean, having done most of ark on hardcore, it's not really that bad lol

[sudden escarp]

Because as you just said, you're exprienced enough to be able to play most of ark on hardcore, which isn't the case of the vast majority of players. I just don't know what you eat for breakfeast to be that good lmao

[rain dock]

Comparatively I am not even that good lol

[bold dove]

You've been only playing for a year, right?

[rain dock]

I just know how the game works and have familiarity with how to progress quickly and safely

[rain dock]

Me? No it's close to 3 now I think

[bold dove]

Ah

[rain dock]

2 on official pvp, then switched over to unofficial pvp and pve lol

[sudden escarp]

\o/ they're all saying that... "800 hours of gameplay but I consider myself an amateur" is the to go phrase lol xD

[rain dock]

Well, I have 3000 and still consider myself subpar for pvp lol

[digital flower]

I've started on the Xbox One playing offical + unoffical pvp, I didn't like the way tek was when it first released so I ended up switching to unoffical pvp and then around the time Aberration released to PC

if I count all my pc & console hours I'm probably close to 6000 which I know isn't a lot in comparison to most people

but I was there pre tek & ui change days and I remember how op fishing used to be

• the broken gigas and pteradons

[sudden escarp]

See!!!? hahah that's like an auction litterally. So now the bid just went up to 3000 for subpar. xD

[sudden escarp]

Hold on, got 6000 here!

🤣

[digital flower]

haha

To most official players those are considered Rookie hours XD

Steam needs a leaderboard of players hours for every game

It would be interesting to see how much time people have spent in games especially ark

[brazen sparrow]

That exists, funny enough

[digital flower]

I'm not talking about steamdb unless it has that feature

[sudden escarp]

doing some auctioneer chant practice rn

My new career from now on.

xD

[digital flower]

Lol

I thought you were saying you also had 6k

[brazen sparrow]

I don't remember where it is tbh, my friend sent it to me years ago and I lost it

[digital flower]

no worries

[sudden escarp]

no I was saying you were the biggest number I saw lol

[digital flower]

oh well I have been playing since 2016 so that's expected

although I'm on a "few" months hiatus

I stopped playing late October last year

[bold dove]

I have like 8k something hours. 🇱

[digital flower]

Nice

[brazen sparrow]

I have like 20k hours... In Skyrim 😏

[digital flower]

Damn

I'm more of Fallout Bethesda fan but that's impressive

I only have about 100+ in each of the Fallout games -76, 1 & 2

[sudden escarp]

But I can understand huge amount of gameplay because 1-it's an amazingly beautiful game, 2-you can socialize there and 3-it seems like there's always new stuff to learn, new tips, new strategy etc.
I was playing on solo mobile years ago and really got addicted, spent so much hours although it would be difficult to put a number on it. When I wasn't in the game, I was mostly online reading about it lol And still, I can see there's so much more to know.
On some mobile forum I used to go at that time, I read about people losing their wife and job over Ark, so yeah, that's a real thing man.
Personally, at some point, I stopped playing when I got tired of not being able to do the snow cave properly. How about you? What made you go on hiatus?

[digital flower]

No reason personally I just got burnt out after powering through the official maps with a tribe of mine on a patreon server, and I wanted to take a long break and experience other games

started to get into Rimworld & Project Zomboid lately for example

[brazen sparrow]

I probably have more in the fallout games than the elder scrolls games too, to be fair, minus 76 because it doesn't exist to me

[digital flower]

76? What's that

[brazen sparrow]

Fallout 76?

Ya know

[sudden escarp]

i think minus 76hours lol?

[digital flower]

Nope don't know what it is

[brazen sparrow]

Also we are way off topic 👀

[sudden escarp]

what was the topic again

[digital flower]

Oh yeah this is a lore channel

[sudden escarp]

what does lore means actually ? that's an honest question, im not an English native speaker and have no idea what lore means

[brazen sparrow]

It's like the backstory to a given thing

Like the lore of ark is the explorer notes and the story of how we got to where we are, so to speak

[sudden escarp]

Ohhh.. "a body of traditions and knowledge on a subject or held by a particular group, typically passed from person to person by word of mouth."

[brazen sparrow]

Precisely

[sudden escarp]

Yeah than ok, let's go back to that then, I'm all about lore stuff 😄 hahaha

this, and bid auctions Ark hours, obviously. I've seen 8k lastly!
Sorry 20k on Skyrim does not count. 🙂

(Although very impressive, I must say 😉 )

[brazen sparrow]

Lol

[sudden escarp]

I've seen some people looking to do "Ascension". But Ascension isn't a game itself, is it ? What is it actually ? From what I've read it's like a point you reach after doing a Boss fight, where you learn the secret of the Ark or something to that effect ? But then what, nothing ? that's the End?

[warped herald]

Lore wise, ascensions are the progress of being the toughest of the toughest. The arks basically testing the players if their smart and strong enough to progress to the next ark till the point of being sent to earth to deal with whats going on the planet

[brazen sparrow]

Ascension is like moving up to the next level, in gamer terms

[sudden escarp]

hahah ok wow that's such an amazing answer thank you.^^

[sudden escarp]

I'd love to be tested that way ^^

"Am I wise enough to not be sent back on our planet" Love it.

😂

Sounds like a 2050 radio contest.

[bold dove]

That was their original purpose.
But with corruption getting infinitely worse on Earth, the ARK's catered to this and made it basically impossible to naturally get to Earth.
Hints why Santiago told the ARK to 'fuck off' and made his own portal.

[sudden escarp]

I see. Where do you learned that backstory ?

[warped herald]

The notes left by other survivors that we dont get to see in game

Since the only other survivors we see are other players

[sudden escarp]

Oooh okay, these notes are not on all the maps though

[warped herald]

Just the story maps

[sudden escarp]

Which maps are the story maps ? The Island, that on is a given I think..

[warped herald]

The island, scorched earth, aberration, extinction, gen 1 & gen 2

[sudden escarp]

Which maps aren't story map then ? Lost Island, Ragnarok, Valguero-(or something like that)

The Center

[warped herald]

So Ragnarok, valguero, the center, Crystal Isles, Lost Island and fjordur are non story maps

[sudden escarp]

which is why they are free, amirite?

[warped herald]

Yea

[sudden escarp]

man I'm to wise to be returned see

🤣

[digital flower]

There'd be outrage if they weren't free lol

[warped herald]

That too lol

[bronze turtle]

How did extinction creatures end up on the gen 2 ship? and did rockwell also create the glowpets since those are on the ship?

[lyric tendon]

the ARKs and the Gen Ship are made at the same time, the Extinction creatures are just a by-product/reaction to the corruption

same can be said with the glow pets as they exist even while rockwell was still human and in SE

basically all Ab creatures was still there before Rockwell ascended to Ab

[bronze turtle]

So the abberant/glow creatures were a product of corruption rather than radiation?

[lyric tendon]

Ext yes, Ab no

[bronze turtle]

Ah

Ty for the explanation

[lyric tendon]

Ab is more adaptation to the ARK itself getting destroyed (from nuking the overseer) that send most creatures underground

[bronze turtle]

Interesting

[lyric tendon]

the reapers, nameless, seekers, and ravagers are just the last minute attempt by the overseer to stop the Tek Tribe from their "plans to escape" but it failed because of said Tek nuke

[bronze turtle]

oh, i heard someone say rockwell created the reapers and nameless. i find it intresting how the overseer knows their plan

and intresting how the island overseer didnt try to stop us before getting to it

[brazen sparrow]

I'm pretty thoroughly sure he did, so I believe you're right

[scarlet junco]

Rockwell didnt create them, they were already there, even before him and Helena arrived on Aberration

In Mei-Yin’s notes, you can see that she mentions that she heard the screams of her dying rockdrake as it was being ripped apart by a reaper king or queen

I forgot what type of reaper it was

[bronze turtle]

Arnt drakes supposed to prey on reapers and thats why they get exited being near one? L drake

[tender wasp]

The cave system of Abs eben existed allready befor the Ark got nuked. The Tek tribe only never really ventured there befor they had too cause of the nuke.
So it might even be that Glowpets allready were there prior and simply made by the Overseer at some point. I woud not even be surprised that humanity allready engenieered some stuff specific for some Arks, maybe even so there are new species more suitable for a more ravaged earth.

[tender wasp]

No, they prey on Namless

[bronze turtle]

Oh

[brazen sparrow]

Uhhhhhh

[bronze turtle]

Why do the feathers get exited near reapers then? Is it a fear thing?

[brazen sparrow]

They're like rivals with the reapers

[tender wasp]

Reapers are simply some kind of "enemy" like for Hyenas are lions some kind of enemy..

[brazen sparrow]

That's why the feather thing

[bronze turtle]

That makes alot more sense, i was a bit suprised when someone told me drakes ate reapers

[tender wasp]

Na, their prey are Namless mostly. ALso a resason you need Namless venom to raise baby drakes.

[bronze turtle]

They must have pretty weak venom considering we dont feel the effects of it

[tender wasp]

Reapers so are somhow connected to the Nameless.

[bold dove]

The ones underneath "Story-ARKS"

[brazen sparrow]

Drink some, you will lol

[bronze turtle]

Yea good point

I guess they just dont feel the need to use the venom while attacking?

[bold dove]

Or it's actually poison, and it's just a odd typo.

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, never really explained, that one...

[tender wasp]

Maybe it is simply their blood or something they can't activly apply

[brazen sparrow]

Most likely

[bronze turtle]

Perhaps

[bold dove]

That'd be poison then.

[tender wasp]

Maybe venom simply sounded cooler XD

[bold dove]

Like i stated.

[severe goblet]

Is there a lore reason for titans to be summoned by terminals and respawn or is that just a gameplay compromise

[bold dove]

50/50

No in-game/canon explanation.
But in a reddit post, Marc stated that activating the terminal shoots out a EMP blast to awake the titans and draw them towards it.

[rigid palm]

For the king titan its that he considers you too insignificant to fight unless you summon him at the specific spot and with the other three’s heads
I suppose the it could be the same for the sub-titans, but theres no in game explanation

[rigid palm]

And yeah that would explain how the terminal actually notifies them

[lyric tendon]

or the reason why they just "go back to the center" when you tried to kite them away from the arena

[bold dove]

In reality/what the notes explain. They're actually always on the map and wondering.
This was still during the time that they try to make game mechanics into part of the lore.
And it's confusing, cause on one hand in the notes, they're always physical.
On the other hand, they need to have a EMP blast to fucking summon them?
Make up your damn mind.

Personally, i go for what the notes say over any extra source. (even if that source is the writer)

[lyric tendon]

it kinda confused me that titans should be numerous according to the notes

[bold dove]

Well, Santiago apparently killed a lot of the smaller ones.

[lyric tendon]

but they stop multiplying after all that and after they give the King Titan a nasty scar?

[bold dove]

But this is Extinction we're talking about.
Everything is actually miles away, and there's death at every corner, and the world doesn't look like Arizona.

[lyric tendon]

so the titans we have are just an isolated pocket or just the last ever titans in existence??

[bold dove]

Nevers explained 🤷‍♂️

[lyric tendon]

figured

[bold dove]

Cause theoretically, the titans should be able to reform theirselves 'if' they truly can just come into existence mid-air.

I love ARK's lore.
But 60% of it is just speculation or such highly accepted fan theories.

[lyric tendon]

if they use the ability to spawn corrupteds out of nowhere just to copy themselves, i guess we tackled the weakened corruption

tbh the ARK saga part of the lore is very very very underrated