#lore-nerdz

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bold dove
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I'd rather watch someone cheese a mission then just outright console command through it.

lyric tendon
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Ye

merry cipher
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syntac's videos felt like they went kinda downhill after genesis tbh, but thats in my own opinion

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like ultimate ark island - extinction was the best, and then it kinda just, felt as though he'd overly react to Everything

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also his mutation guide isn't bad, it's helpful to new people tbh

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tbh it's warranted because genesis 1 is so anti-solo player

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like genesis 1 felt like a big fat middle finger to those who played alone or in smaller groups

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i do agree, it's better to cheese through it rather than console command but still, it's warranted

green light
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Gen and gen 2 further took away the early game

rigid palm
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Um, he actually decided to not do anything with the missions until they became actually possible for solo people

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He outright refused to use console commands because of how cheaty that is to him

wraith drum
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what if rockwell became drunk and fell to element water and became monster

hasty creek
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Syntac got boring after extinction

rain dock
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I would have to agree with that lol

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His ultimate ark was the best series he did, the rest kind of went downhill from there

hasty creek
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I just think his ab playthrough was the best

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Ultimate ark to me was just watching him do those things again

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Its like when u watch football on a tv when u could just play it yourself

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Sure it was fun to watch him when i didn't have the dlcs but now that i have them i could just play them

rain dock
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I mean there is that. But like, he gave up on the genesis 1 saying it was impossible, but I have done them solo, and so have a bunch of people that I know

lyric tendon
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Gen 1 is very hard modless and solo

rain dock
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Yeah, but it is possible

merry cipher
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Ultimate ARK to Extinction was great but his recent stuff just.. really isn't for me

rigid palm
merry cipher
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tahts the case for alpha at least

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as i said, genesis was just a huge middle finger to solo players

rain dock
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You can skip a few of the gauntlet missions on alpha though

merry cipher
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yeah, but still, shouldn't it just balance out with the amount of players?

rigid palm
merry cipher
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the gauntlet missions in general are pretty BS

rain dock
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Why do you have to do them lol. There's only 5, so you can skip the alphas

merry cipher
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but. again. there shouldn't be missions that exclude solo players entirely when others can be done solo just fine.

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plus the beta ones are pretty ass to deal with solo too

rigid palm
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It literally won’t let you start it

rain dock
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Oh, right lol

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I forgot about that one

rigid palm
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And then theres a bulbdog team one also I think

rain dock
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I did that on official so I found some random bobs

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That makes sense than

rigid palm
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Thats 6 you’re not able to do, leaving two gauntlets you don’t have to do

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…and two you do have to do

rain dock
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Right

rigid palm
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So yeah, not possible to skip two of them solo

rain dock
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In single player yeah

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Like I said, I was on a server with other people, so I could skip all the alphas

rigid palm
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Some of us have no friends jerboasad

rain dock
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If you are on single player I guess you could invite someone random for just that mission.

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Like I would hop on just to throw dodos nana

rigid palm
rain dock
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I honestly don't see how

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If push comes to shove he could just use his alt account afk in the area and it would work

merry cipher
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Again, still not the point

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It’s meant to be 100% solo

rain dock
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I mean, I get the point, but ark wasn't and never has been built for single player lol

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It was built for big servers and lots of player player interaction

merry cipher
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yes it was, ARK has been doable for solos until Genesis.

rain dock
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Single player was patched on as an afterthought

rigid palm
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It is true that the devs have official as the main priority, then unofficial, then sp

rain dock
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Honestly to me it makes perfect sense. The dodo and bulbdog team missions are really easy, even on sp as long as you invite one other person. And as far as the Mc fight goes, I just beat alpha solo on a single player world. It's just a matter of strategy and not making mistakes

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It is possible to do Gen1 solo, as long as you have 1 other person for about 30 min

fallow sapphire
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its actually possible to pull gen 1 solo in total, but only on singleplayer

rigid palm
rain dock
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Stego tank wall in a semi circle. They had like 120k and 100 armor saddles, with rexes in the middle, 50k health and 1500% damage. I killed the gigas with my 250 shotgun.

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It worked pretty well, but I lost most of the creatures

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Have to be honest, but I didn't mutate them, I spawned them in at a high level just to see if the fight was possible for later on in my server run through so I knew how much to mutate

merry cipher
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tempting me to put up a test server and see what it takes

rain dock
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I'm going to try a couple strategies, just because it's just me and one other person on my story run through, and he's not good at boss fights lol

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Hmm, I wonder, has anyone tested enforcers? They do extra damage on corrupteds on extinction.

merry cipher
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why the fuck does gportal refuse to disable one of my gameclouds, this utter piece of crap service i swear.

fallow sapphire
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Honestly all I’ve ever done for solo alpha cmc is just highly mutated rexes

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Good set of ghillie and cactus broth to keep me hidden, rexes do all the work and I grab the keys

merry cipher
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I was just planning on upping my 40mut rexes to 80 in gen

fallow sapphire
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dang those are some nice rexes, mine had like 25 muts

rain dock
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I am working on a way to cap my deinonychus, I wonder if they'll be good lol

fallow sapphire
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depends on how much damage they would do, you want more brute force then over time damage for cmc

rain dock
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Good point

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In that case rexes it is then jaja

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Mine currently only have 52 points in melee, but I still have 4 servers to get through

rigid palm
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People I’ve talked to said reapers are almost essential

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For the knockback

rain dock
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Reapers are nice. I haven't tested it with them yet

merry cipher
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what the fuck is one-hit killing shit in the final round

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50k health rexes with 150 armor saddles dying easily in alpha mc fourth round

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and when he's vulnerable my rexes don't even fucking attack it

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they just pretend the MC doesn't exist

fallow sapphire
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you have to personally deal with the MC, creatures dont

merry cipher
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jesus, okay

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round 2 ig

fallow sapphire
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yeah its a doozy lol

merry cipher
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i love ark survival evolved the entirely perfect game with no bugs glitches or bullshit

fallow sapphire
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you have to deal a total of 150k health with your weapons in 15 minutes

merry cipher
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yaeh tek rifles it is

fallow sapphire
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yep, tek rifles and pump shottys

merry cipher
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well that round went better but, ran out of time

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got to the final 1/4 of health and realised i had 30sec left LMAO

merry cipher
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Might give it another shot in a little while

rain dock
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Do some purple extinction drops and get better tek bps lol

merry cipher
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I'm literally spawning stuff in for this lmfao

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I thought I established that earlier

rain dock
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Oh right lol

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Ignore me

fallow sapphire
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It all comes down to planning everything. With my strat i put on ghillie and cactus broth with focal chilli for speed, then set my rexes to aggressive for the first 3 waves, on the final wave i switch to a good set of flak, and keep running and grabbing keys

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Obviously cant say its a full proof strat, its failed a few times, but i have run it on a server before so i know it works on both singleplayer and a server

merry cipher
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did it

rain dock
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Nice, what stats did you spawn them in at?

merry cipher
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so, at the moment on the island, my rexes have 20H 20M mutations, totalling at around 21k??? base??? health???? and like 700% base melee ish, basically they have over 90 points in each stat

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and when i reach genesis I plan on mutating another 40 (20H 20M) on top of those, totalling at 40H 40M, and the rough stat estimate would be around 130pts into each stat. That's the stats I spawned them in at, imprinted, and saddled

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Same for my Yutyrannus mutation line

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some-fucking-how i didn't lose a single rex that round

rigid palm
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So 35k health and 1,000% melee?

merry cipher
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in around that yes!

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And we also use 2x imprint boost (Sue me, I like to have some ease in the game)

rigid palm
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Ngl that seems really low to have lost none

merry cipher
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they're levelled

rigid palm
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Ah

merry cipher
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they were levelled to 50k and 2k melee

rigid palm
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That makes more sense xD

merry cipher
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yeah LMAO

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We don't boost stats beyond imprint bonuses

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and I don't touch SP settings with a 60 foot pole

rigid palm
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I use an 80 ft pole to smack it upside the head every once in a while

merry cipher
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I'm, really glad with myself for actually managing to do that though. CMC was super daunting to me but now that I know some shit on it I'm excited to get to Genesis

rigid palm
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Did you only use rexes or did you use other stuff

merry cipher
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My strategy was just. ride yuty sometimes, courage roar when i can, and stay mostly on foot in really good flak in the final phase

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19 rexes, 1 yuty

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When I actually do it we may have two people on mammoths or stegos so they're safe, or they could all be on yutys as the yutys are Just That Buff

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KBD makes yutys a little better with their upped DPS too.

bronze turtle
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imprint buffs are already godly

merry cipher
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i'd disagree tbh

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imprint buffs give a bit of a boost, like beforehand i was using 3x but it felt like too much, 2x felt more comfortable (40% boost)

ember solar
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I would disagree to your disagree

merry cipher
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good for you. but also i play how i want

ember solar
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Yeah but we are talking about the what the base game should however you want to modify it is fine

merry cipher
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for some insight, on 1x imprint my (levelled) rexes on the island did 1.2k dmg, and on 2x they do 1.5k if i'm remembering right, it's, not like i'm doing double that damage

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and i'm still heavily mutating stuff

ember solar
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Why would you need them to do that much damage

merry cipher
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because 1. i want them to, and 2. boss fighting rexes

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i like getting the fights done fast

ember solar
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That’s what? 1500 melee?

merry cipher
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these are 20H 20M

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in around that yeah

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and then 35-40k health

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also i'm on difficulty 6

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so, bosses are a bit harder

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but i wouldn't say that imprint 2x is comparable to singleplayer settings

merry cipher
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oh yeah, about this

How tf do you even keep the turrets? I enabled mission building but the moment it started, all my turrets got destroyed. I'm not sure if that's even possible.

rain dock
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The best way is to still invite someone random for like 30 min do the team missions and skip alpha gauntlets entirely

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Syntac is doing it on official settings, and there is no official server that doesn't have beach bobs who want to do team missions with randoms jaja

wary ruin
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the point of UA is that he wants it 100% solo

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i would rather he do what makes him happy, not what you think is boring and/or cheaty

merry cipher
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i wasn't asking about that LOL

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i was asking for myself

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plus it's a private server with like 2 other people

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will prob just skip alpha gauntlets anyways

fallow sapphire
merry cipher
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unsure, i only checked gauntlets, let me check other misisons

wary ruin
merry cipher
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my bad, plus again i never had anything against the guy. i'm doing a very similar thing atm so that's why i was asking how you'd go about the turret method because it clearly, doesn't work

merry cipher
fallow sapphire
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if you bring unassembled meks you can deploy them in the guantlets (atleast i think this still works)

merry cipher
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😳

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i'll have to test that

fallow sapphire
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a friend tried it awhile back, nearly beat beta magma medley melee with it

merry cipher
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thing is we'd do gamma and beta legit

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i just wanna have alpha checked off else it'll bug me LMAO

fallow sapphire
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then i wish you luck, its gonna be damn hard even with some amazing meks

merry cipher
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those missions are goddamn ridiculous on alpha

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still think it should scale with the amount of people you have

fallow sapphire
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really should

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actually i think their level does depending on how many people you have (think)

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i know sta on gen 2 does

merry cipher
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that might be the case yeah

fallow sapphire
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but they arent low enough on alpha to make a difference for gen 1 guantlets... maybe if you downscaled the difficulty, but thats still crazy cheap

merry cipher
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yeah meks don't work

fallow sapphire
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damn

merry cipher
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trying with s+ turrets

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another thing people did was place shield generators outside and attack through that

fallow sapphire
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still think you would run out of time on alpha

merry cipher
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yeah exactly

fallow sapphire
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with beta you might be able to make it

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but alpha is way too difficult

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i think the only way to beat it legit is if wildcard makes it possible solo, otherwise it requires cheats/downscaling settings

merry cipher
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cheats or, cheesing it

fallow sapphire
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not much of a way to cheese alpha though

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and trust me, ive tried a lot of ways a while back

merry cipher
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shield works

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yeahh. alpha is just ridiculous

fallow sapphire
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bog beatdown might be possible on singleplayer, but definitely not on a server

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hm... i wonder if its possible with a melee build

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getting all the levels possible up till that point, so chibis and ascensions, then pumping health, melee, and a bit of weight with a ton of armor sets, soups, and beer

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Wouldnt work well for magma medley melee cause of the wyverns, but maybe the other 3

merry cipher
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what i hate is the fact that like

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the difficulty increases a LOT between gamma, beta, and alpha

fallow sapphire
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Really does

merry cipher
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this goes for ALL missions

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except for the piss easy ones, like. dodoball

fallow sapphire
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Alteast for others you can account for it by god tier creatures

merry cipher
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yeah

fallow sapphire
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If there was a way to glitch a creature in i think it would be possible

merry cipher
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used to be

fallow sapphire
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Yeah

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I remember those days lol

merry cipher
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funniest part is

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it's not even worth it, bc the loot is so bad

fallow sapphire
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Yeah

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If each one gave an amazing piece of tek it might be worth

desert patrol
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Do all overseerers look the same

lyric tendon
desert patrol
lyric tendon
desert patrol
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i always assumed because their advancing to quickly

lyric tendon
desert patrol
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i get it strongest should survive

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But what about the weak they just die

lyric tendon
merry cipher
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a lot of ARK's logic is extremely dumb like that

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like "Earth is dead, let's kill those who aren't strong enough or learn to use the system to their advantage, so the strongest can save earth instead."

merry cipher
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Also one thing that irks me is the fact that Rockwell was made into the big villain for making his own race and killing innocents (the actions were awful and i do Not condone them), while the ARKs themselves were also doing that and weren't nearly as villainized as him????

steel rune
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"Neddythenoodle"

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I love how scorched earth gave an ancient Egyptian tone coz as an Egyptian I love my history I tell ya that raia is just as I expected her going into the notes

bold dove
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You can cheese and teleport a tame into the gauntlets instead.
But they're still pretty damn hard on alpha, even with a good giga.

native hawk
rigid palm
merry cipher
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Imprint riding boost isn't increased.

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It's always +30% no matter what when ridden.

rigid palm
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I was talking about official

bold dove
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Each imprint slightly increases the stats of the tame.
The riding boost is just the cherry on top.

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It's why hardcore breeders don't like imprinting on their breeding lines. Cause it increases the general stats just a bit and can throw them off.

rigid palm
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I was including the 30% bonus

merry cipher
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what would Rockwell do if you microwaved him

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I think he’d melt like a Peeps marshmallow, and then explode into flames

ornate hull
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In the gen 2 fight Rockwell says how long has has this puppet even been thawed out it that referring to hlna or us

bold dove
crude shadow
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I would assume the survivor. They are basically the one doing all the work, hence they're the puppet(s)

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Meanwhile HLN-A is the one stringing us through both the simulation, and the colony ship to get those missions done, and fix things

bronze turtle
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us because we just came out of our little nap in the simulation

mental basin
ember solar
merry cipher
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both

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"It's so bright..."

leaden olive
ember solar
rain dock
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I mean, Rockwell is in a spaceship, he is already basically microwaved

dim ledge
thorn sierra
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Dude ark 2 is gonna get delayed by ww3 rip

desert patrol
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Is the dino p cannon

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Are any of. The creatures added from new non story maps official

ember solar
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They could be, they could not

cedar plover
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Hey when your in a alliance with someone, they can't see what im taming right?

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Allied

desert patrol
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They can

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Dinoshiticus

merry cipher
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I've never played a Fallout game in my life, but if Rockwell wasn't inspired by Richard Grey/The Master, I'd be very surprised

bold dove
merry cipher
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Things can be inspired by multiple things?????

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Wtf is that logic?

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considering the fact that richard grey basically began injecting himself with a mutating fluid (and testing it on other animals and humans prior to that, to my knowledge) and the fact that he becomes a meat monster that fuses with a system, I'm, pretty sure that Rockwell being inspired by that wouldn't be out of the question.

solemn cloak
plain plover
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he was obviously inspired by Doctor Eggman

rain dock
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I mean the idea of a doctor testing their own medecines on themselves was fairly common in the era that rockwell comes from, so its not really surprising that he tested it on himself

merry cipher
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well yeah, of course, but it’s also the outcome too

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Also Rockwell didn’t like testing on himself. He did that as a last ditch effort at ascending, and it “worked”

hasty creek
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Hes clearly inspired by doctor brown bear

bold dove
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Nah you fools. He's inspired by Doctor Octopus.

merry cipher
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he's clearly inspired by me (british, deranged, would inject alien soup into my body)

bold dove
teal kelp
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Self diagnosis is cringe, so don't try to diagnose yourself with "mentally unstable"

bronze turtle
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I diagnose myself with good at ARK

lyric tendon
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sus

bronze turtle
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should I care about the other people in the lore and not just Helena Mei Yin Santiago and Rockwell because currently I only know about them and no one else

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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so probably worth caring about?

lyric tendon
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yep since it's the end of the (first 4 of) ARK's story, Genesis is just a prequel to ARK 2 and more "the End of Rockwell and Helena" than the ARKs themselves

bronze turtle
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gotcha thanks man

fallow coral
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lore-wise, are we actually able to die again and again and again on an Ark, or are we only able to respawn in the Genesis Simulation?

ember solar
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Yeah we can respawn because Helena did a thing

rain dock
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There is precedent in the lore in the case of diana, and now santiago

hasty creek
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Tbh diana kinda looks like diana maybe they were long list sisters?

lyric tendon
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long list

merry cipher
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saying this as somebody who Is diagnosed with mental illness but went a long time without diagnosis.

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but yeah saying "i might be mentally unstable" is kinda weird because. is it in the edgy way or in the genuine way? and it came across as the former

merry cipher
rain dock
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Tbh scorched earth doesnt really add much to the ark progression story even though I really like the map

merry cipher
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yeah I agree

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It’s just like, saying exactly what AB’s lore said but much less interesting

clear locust
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They did scorched dirty

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But Nerva really had the most important role in the story

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He is the one time villain

merry cipher
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nerva wasn't on scorched

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nerva arrived to aberration's surface, almost dead, and died there

rain dock
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I was going to say lol

lyric tendon
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SE started Rockwell's descend to madness

merry cipher
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i'd argue that it was all the way from the end of the island that he began going mad

fallow sapphire
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it was technically near the end of the island that started

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scorched definitely evolved it quite a bit though

severe goblet
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Yeah I feel like his descent into being a bad guy started on the island, but his descent into straight up insanity really took place on SE

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I kinda feel like they threw SE together, its lore really only serves to show rockwell's descent and establish that the arks can destroy civilizations that aren't trying to conquer the ark in the intended way. Not much else going on

bold dove
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He was always manipulative. But he always did it in the most minor cases. And (atleast what he told himself) was for the betterment of mankind.
Manipulation, but hoping that 1 sin would help humanity advance.
Scorched, was when he was starting to do this stuff for self interest.

bold dove
severe goblet
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Oh damn really? Didn't know that

bold dove
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With how Wildcard does yearly releases for DLC's. This most likely means they start to create concepts of the next expansion mid-near the end of the development of the current one.
Marc stated they where thinking of a boss for Aberration at the time, and someone suggested "what if Rockwell mutated into a monster?"

severe goblet
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Interesting

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Where can I find that info? Totally believe you but it'd just be cool to read more about it

bold dove
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Look up "ARK Marc lore reddit" or something like that. He made a Q&A post.

severe goblet
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Sweet, thank you!

bold dove
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If you can't find it, just DM me and i can try to Google it.

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But anyway. If this is how they concept ideas. Makes me wonder how long ARK-2 has been concepted.
There's been talks with Jesse in early 2016 interviews of a ARK-2.
So that makes me wonder, has ARK-2 been in concept for around 7-ish years?

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Wouldn't be the first time a game did that.
Bethesda has had concepts for a Fallout 4 before it came out, the moment Fallout 3 came out in 2008.
So by the time Fallout 4 was released, it was in concept for 7-ish years.

rain dock
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I mean wc keeps things under wraps very well lol

lyric tendon
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I dunno, the end of Gen 2 is mediocre for me, I prefer Ext being the true ending of ARK tbh

severe goblet
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Whaaaa, that cutscene is so good!

lyric tendon
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The cutscene is ok I guess but Gen 2 is more of a prequel to ARK 2 than anything

merry cipher
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extinction was kinda mediocre but also satisfying

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gen1 and 2 being a spinoff works. ark 2 existing is stupid lorewise.

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we needed the rockwell arc to wrap up after extinction, now ark 2 is just vin diesel's shitty ark fanfic

lyric tendon
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If ARK 2 is set on Earth, it would've been fine

I don't mind the orcs existing here since the ARKs made mythical creatures as well

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Plus you can "return to primitive" if after the reseed protocol that purge all element in the planet, it make the ARKs inactive since there is no more element to power it

The only make the crashed Ab as the end game of all DLCs, enabling Tek as part of the end of the story

merry cipher
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I agree, entirely, although the orcs existing is just kinda. cringy

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If you're gonna make an alien race why not go all out?

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the orc design is just lame.

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But yeah ARK 2 is seemingly glorifying colonialism just like what Avatar did

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Which rubs me the wrong way because ARK was entirely about restoring a broken Earth

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So, all of that seemed like it was for nothing, to just go to a new planet anyways, to never see what happens to Earth.

lyric tendon
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At this point ARK 2 is bootleg Avatar the game

Since Ubisoft already released a new Avatar game with the same vibe as ARK

merry cipher
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yeah

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ARK has always ridden on the coattails of big franchises. And I hate that.

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It's okay to be inspired by things but when it's your main point to sell something it's, not very promising

lyric tendon
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I mean before the lore is a thing ARK is just shoot them up Jurassic Park

merry cipher
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kinda but like

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that's like saying that anything involving dinosaurs is just jp/jw

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like yeah they were inspired by/ripping off JP/JW designs

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but ARK's obelisks always existed

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it always had the scifi aspect

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which is what sets it apart from "jp shooter"

lyric tendon
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Most people don't know what the obelisk does and they think ARK is just futuristic JP

merry cipher
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that's just people who think jurassic park owns dinosaurs which is stupid

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and universal cashes in on that shit because they claimed the twitter hashtags of dinosaurs which makes me so fucking mad

lyric tendon
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Pretty much then again those Raptor and Spino designs doesn't help

merry cipher
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and they were copyright striking people for making dinosaur content

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fuck jurassic world and universal lmao

merry cipher
lyric tendon
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That too

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Gallies as well

merry cipher
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and compies

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tbh it's just, the shrinkwrapped awesomebro "nostalgic" dinosaur designs

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"inaccuracy fuels creativity!" dinosaurs are just naked and/or covered in osteoderms in most media.

bronze turtle
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Idk if this the right channel for this but why is genesis called genesis

plain plover
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It’s the beginning of the ARK 2 era

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And I guess from in-game it’s what the Ship was named

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Really all you need to know is the definition of Genesis and that will make sense

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They really went for the biblical themes in Gen but it wasn’t as well pulled off as it was with The one who waits, might have had something to do with the blue circle chatting in our ear and try funny scientist man not really fitting the kind of person who would do something like try to make angles in his own image

bronze turtle
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O

severe goblet
merry cipher
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The only good one was him referring to his proliferation as "heaven"

severe goblet
severe goblet
merry cipher
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It absolutely doesn’t fit him.

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Victorian scientists, let alone chemists, were pretty against religion as they saw it as getting in the way of progression.

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Him being this self-made god isn’t really Christianity, but his own religion revolving around him and his overly inflated ego.

severe goblet
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Yes exactly. Which is his whole character

plain plover
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Not my point, my point was he is voiced by David tennant and that as many of us agree acts as a not serious character, did he actually ever once seem threatening in Gen 2? I don’t think so, especially with HLN-A’s comeback after every sentence

severe goblet
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He constantly refers to his peers as ignorant savages despite the fact that they know much more than him. He is an egomaniac who thinks he is perfection incarnate

merry cipher
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But he straight-up cites biblical quotes out of nowhere and it never fits

severe goblet
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Before the element corruption I could see the God stuff making less sense, but he was full blown psycho by then

merry cipher
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HaVE I OvErInDULGed, SuRVIvOR?

plain plover
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Yeah, and it’s really hard to make serious things stick to a character like that

merry cipher
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However the end of gen2 felt so real

severe goblet
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I see what you mean, he definitely plays it super arch

merry cipher
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That was 10/10 imo

plain plover
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Which is why I wish they got real character development

severe goblet
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Agreed

merry cipher
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At the same time, ARK has never been wholly serious, but I think it’s less cheesy acting and more him being literally insane

severe goblet
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"Helena, I'm afraid" is an all time great storytelling moment

plain plover
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Extinction is my favorite ending

merry cipher
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The gen2 ending deadass upset me, in the good way

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No cheesy redemption, just real and raw “this is a man who went down the wrong path, and now he’s going to die for it”

plain plover
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Let Helena give the biblical stuff, it fits her better on account of being literally one notch under god on the totem pole

severe goblet
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It shows there's still a little humanity left of him and demonstrates that he really had to feel the full extent of his descent

merry cipher
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I just dislike the tone change from cheesy one liners to HLNA comforting Rockwell

severe goblet
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That's helena's character too though

merry cipher
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But I guess it was to keep up an act in front of the survivor

severe goblet
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She's a sarcastic smartass but also a kind, caring person

merry cipher
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absolutely

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Still, “she knew” always fucking gets me so bad. Helena knew that Rockwell was terrified the whole time, and that is heartbreaking tbh

severe goblet
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Yeah for real

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She always saw him as the kind man who took her in and respected her

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Even though that didn't last long

merry cipher
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It doesn’t redeem what he did, but the fact that he acted out of fear is so painful

plain plover
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I honestly, don’t really like the end of Gen 2 that much. Boss fight included. The concept is fine, it’s just as I was doing it and watching my the cutscene I couldn’t help but notice all the missed developments and holes.

merry cipher
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Yeahhh

severe goblet
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The fight itself is a bit meh, I can see that

merry cipher
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I just wish it wasn’t a lead up for vin diesel ark fanfic

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Can you tell I hate ARK 2

severe goblet
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Lol to be fair we don't know how it works yet narratively

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It might not be Vin diesel fanfic

plain plover
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But do you like TEK TIER RISING

merry cipher
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The notes for him felt that way

bronze turtle
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Is genesis the hardest map

plain plover
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Genesis 1 is the Hardest map

bronze turtle
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Oops wrong chat mb

severe goblet
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Gen 2 is easiest though

fallow sapphire
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from a certain point of view

bronze turtle
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Why is there multiple universes in genesis 1

plain plover
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Completing it on alpha difficulty is the hardest thing to do in the vanilla game

bronze turtle
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And is there the same amt of univ in gen 2

severe goblet
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It's a simulation

bronze turtle
severe goblet
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Gen 1 is a simulation. That's why it works the way it does

plain plover
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🅱️ideo game

bronze turtle
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What’s the main difference between gen 1 and 2

plain plover
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Genesis 1 is a simulation and Genesis 2 is real

severe goblet
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Difficulty and setting

merry cipher
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I still adore Rockwell Prime’s design btw. The little tidbits of references, the fact that he resembles the Vitruvian Man and also a throne, the only issue is the face. He doesn’t look like Rockwell at all

bronze turtle
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But both have the same worlds right

severe goblet
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No

plain plover
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Yes

severe goblet
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Gen 1 exists inside a simulation, gen 2 you play on an actual spaceship

merry cipher
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Same worlds, one is just a simulation

plain plover
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They couldn’t think of a good name for the first one

merry cipher
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Two diff maps

severe goblet
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It's not the same worlds at all though

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In terms of gameplay

bronze turtle
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I mean the space ocean ice etc

severe goblet
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Yeah no

bronze turtle
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What does gen 2 have

merry cipher
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like two major biomes

bronze turtle
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Which ones

merry cipher
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Eden and Garden

bronze turtle
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What’s dat

severe goblet
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Gen 1 you teleport between the biomes, gen 2 you're on a ship. There are ark-like areas split into 2 "rings" you can travel between, one is fairly normal ark environments, and the other one is completely corrupted and hostile. And in between the rings you can go into space, which alternates each day between a bunch of different biomes which are just asteroids that spawn different rare resources

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But you also do missions like gen 1

bronze turtle
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It’s not like your in one world then randomly get tp to the other world

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Biomes*

severe goblet
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Nope, it's actual physical environments you have to travel between old school

plain plover
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Except you get a free tek suit

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Marking that a lot easier

severe goblet
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Yeah that too

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And it doesn't cost element to use

plain plover
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Only protects you as much as hide armor though

bronze turtle
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How many raid bosses are there and according to lore which is the strongest is there’s anything like that

severe goblet
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There's just one boss, the final boss of ark

bronze turtle
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What is the final boss

severe goblet
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Rockwell Prime

bronze turtle
#

But there is raid bosses no?

severe goblet
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I don't know what raid bosses means lol

bronze turtle
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Like the giant yeti in the ice biome

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Idk what map

severe goblet
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I think you're confusing this game with lost ark lol

bronze turtle
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no

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wrong word

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i was thinking of mini not raid mb mb

severe goblet
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You could be talking about the megapithecus on the island, but that's one of the 4 bosses. I have no idea what you mean by mini

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Gen 2 only has the one

bronze turtle
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like i was thinking of the ice titan

severe goblet
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Oh ok. Yeah only extinction has the bosses on the map like that

bronze turtle
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wait no Megapithecus

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mb mb

severe goblet
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The island has 4 bosses, megapithecus is one of them

bronze turtle
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forest titan?

severe goblet
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That's extinction

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All the titans are on that one

bronze turtle
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broodmother?

severe goblet
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Island

bronze turtle
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which one is overseer

severe goblet
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It's just called the overseer

bronze turtle
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wait theres a biome called overseer

severe goblet
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Oh which map, its the island

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No sorry, I misunderstood

bronze turtle
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all good

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moeder

severe goblet
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Gen 1

bronze turtle
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deathworm is se im guessing but im prob wrong

severe goblet
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Yeah it is, but it's not a boss. Just a wild creature

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SE boss is just the Manticore

bronze turtle
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is dragon island?

severe goblet
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Yep

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Island is megapithecus, broodmother, dragon, overseer

bronze turtle
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if all the maps bosses had a1v1 fight who would win

severe goblet
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Alpha king titan easy

bronze turtle
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so extinction would win?

severe goblet
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Yeah, alpha king titan is the last one on extinction

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SE, ab, and gen 2 only have 1 boss

bronze turtle
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what does ab and gen 2 have

severe goblet
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Rockwell and Rockwell Prime

bronze turtle
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each boss has lore no?

severe goblet
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Ehh sort of. There's not a ton behind the island ones other than the overseer. SE has no endgame lore for some reason, in the lore it was just a quick stop where not much happened for the main characters. Ab, gen 1, and gen 2 definitely have lots of lore because they're all technically the same person,who was one of the main characters back on the island and SE

bronze turtle
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how did se become se

severe goblet
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What do you mean by that?

bronze turtle
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like what made it so hot

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is it just a desert or did something happen to the biome to make it like that

severe goblet
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Ah, so there are tons of different arks around the earth. They're all different. That one just happened to be all desert

bronze turtle
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so the different maps are like different continents

severe goblet
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Not really. Only extinction actually takes place on a planet

bronze turtle
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wait what

severe goblet
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The island, SE, and ab all take place on arks, which are spaceships orbiting the earth to save life after the earth has been corrupted by element

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Extinction is the corrupted earth

bronze turtle
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what about the non canon maps

severe goblet
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Those are also on arks

bronze turtle
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oh

severe goblet
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They just aren't ones the characters went to in the story

bronze turtle
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what is the main difference between ab and ext not in lore tho

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like which is which

severe goblet
#

Like in terms of what the map itself is like?

bronze turtle
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yeah

severe goblet
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Aberration is almost all underground, there's a deep and hostile cave system full of creatures who have been affected by the high amount of element on that particular ark. Extinction is basically what you'd expect from a dead planet, except for a few things. There are 2 test arks on it that broke down and released their creatures onto the rest of the land, so there are dinos everywhere, but they're super violent and corrupted by all the element that destroyed the earth. So it's kind of barren for the most part with super violent stuff everywhere. But you can also visit the 2 proto arks, one is all desert themed, one is icy and mountainous. And then there's a fairly large cave system where some life flourishes. And in the middle of the map is the remnants of a giant, super advanced city that's mostly safe

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Ab is the most unique one environment wise, it presents different challenges from the standard set

bronze turtle
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better question How did earth get corrupt?

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like in extinction

severe goblet
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It's left intentionally vague as to how it got here, but somehow humanity came into contact with this insane element they just called element. It gave off a ton of energy and seemingly solved absolutely everything so humanity developed a ton technologically. But it turned out element is actually alive and its consciousness is pure hatred and evil. Eventually humanity got into a war, and had developed element based weapons, so the element spread literally all over the earth. And it spread its roots deep through the planet

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That happened long before any of the game. You get to extinction because at the end of ab you escape the arks

bronze turtle
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i wish there was a map thats like a radioactive wasteland like fallout

severe goblet
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Ab and extinction are both kinda like that

bronze turtle
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so you have to play ark canon games in order for the story to make sense

severe goblet
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Well you don't have to, most players don't really even care about the story. It takes place in notes left behind by previous survivors that you find throughout the maps, so if you don't bother to read the notes you wouldn't even know the story. Plus some of them are written in languages other than English. But fortunately they're all available online

bronze turtle
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so basically ab and extinction is like the planet where wall e lives

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but instead of trash is energy

severe goblet
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Lol moreso extinction in terms of being a barren wasteland, but ab is literally radioactive in the more advanced areas lmao

bronze turtle
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so extinction is like the planet where wall e lives?

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trying to make it so my mind can understand

severe goblet
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Hahaha without the trash 😂 but also some other biomes

bronze turtle
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yeha

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imagine theres an actual ending

severe goblet
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Oh there is

bronze turtle
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so like ark 2 is the future theres should be a game before survival evolved before earth got corrupted

severe goblet
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It's not on earth

bronze turtle
#

wym

severe goblet
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The genesis ship finally finds a planet that's suitable for life and crashes down, and that new planet is where ark 2 takes place

bronze turtle
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imagine there is an option to save earth from going into war and stuff

severe goblet
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No, that all took place long before the game

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There's no npcs

bronze turtle
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ik but like a prequel to it

severe goblet
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No, nothing like that

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You save the earth from what's already happened to it

bronze turtle
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how tho

severe goblet
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So the arks were intended to cultivate life in different environments, and then when the element subsided on earth, they would come back down and release that life to rejuvenate the earth. But it never subsided. But thanks to the insane technology on earth, after destroying the alpha king titan, you're able to initiate the reseed protocol and bring the arks back to earth. And in the endgame cutscene you watched the earth get restored

bronze turtle
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that is so cool

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wait can you go back to the restored earth

severe goblet
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Sadly no, that's the end of the earth storyline

bronze turtle
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but it's restored

severe goblet
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But when humans learned that the earth was dying they had 2 plans, the arks and the genesis ship. So now in ark 2 we'll follow what happens on the new planet the genesis ship finds

bronze turtle
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do we know how much ark 2 is gonna cost

severe goblet
#

Not yet

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But I'd guess like $60

bronze turtle
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then theres gonna be dlcs

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so around 100?

severe goblet
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Not sure if there will be dlcs tbh since it's a full planet and not smaller environments like the arks

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But who knows

bronze turtle
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wait can i dm u a picture of smthn

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it's not nsfw it's about the ark

severe goblet
#

Sure

split gulch
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Also how did the player get on the ship or do we play a different character

severe goblet
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Yeah, at the end of extinction you bring the arks back to earth and they fix it

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HLNA brings you back on the ship

split gulch
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With teleportation?

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Also Helena and HLNA are different and isn't it Helena that brings you to the ship?

severe goblet
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No, your engram is uploaded to the ship. Like the arks it's a clone body with implanted memories. And HLNA is the simulation version of herself Helena uploaded to the ship, they're the same person

lyric tendon
severe goblet
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Yeah, it's tricky

lyric tendon
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HLNA is Helena's personality and memories but not Helena herself

quaint jasper
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@winged wigeon

winged wigeon
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Wot

quaint jasper
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Lore nerd

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That’s you!

bronze turtle
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Why did people try to bomb the obelisk and make ab what ab is right now

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Also do we know how close ab is from the sun since there is flames at day

bold dove
bronze turtle
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Did they know that is was close to the sun

bold dove
bronze turtle
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Why is the above ground in ab on fire during day

bold dove
bronze turtle
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Oh wait I’m dumb

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If the atmosphere wasn’t destroyed ab wouldn’t be on fire right

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Sorry if I’m not making sense

bold dove
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Yes, if funny bubble around the ARK wasn't boom-boomed. Then funny fire wouldn't burn.
Thank you for coming to my basic science 101 tedtalk.

bronze turtle
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That actually made so much sense

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Thank you so much

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2 questions do we know what time period does the game take place in and when did we he boom boom happen

severe goblet
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We have no idea how long it's been since the lore characters were on the arks

sharp valve
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Whats the best way to get into ark lore

lyric tendon
merry cipher
drifting panther
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Ok thanks for telling me brotha

bronze turtle
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And do we know why we fought and did we have dinos tamed yet?

severe goblet
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At the time of the war? There were no dinos on earth, it was just future earth. The war started because humanity had split into 2 factions that had different beliefs, it's a bit complicated

lyric tendon
severe goblet
#

Think he means the humans on earth at the time of the element wars

bronze turtle
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Yesthis

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And what are the 2 factions

bronze turtle
severe goblet
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No, we had insane technology and could evolve into beings of pure energy and knowledge

lyric tendon
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The wars began in 2 ways

  1. they wanted the control of Element Supplies (like oil)

  2. the rise of transhumans (proto-homo deus) augmenting and weaponizing themselves with element

bronze turtle
#

And is the player in a certain faction

severe goblet
#

No, humanity went extinct on earth, the game happens long after the lore

bronze turtle
#

So we are the only inhabitants other than animals right

severe goblet
#

Yeah on extinction it's just dinos and creatures, no other people

bronze turtle
#

Isn’t that all the other maps though

severe goblet
#

What do you mean?

bronze turtle
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Like there’s no people in the other maps that im aware of

bronze turtle
severe goblet
#

Yeah that's correct

bronze turtle
#

Oh ok

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Are the notes the only way lore is found (other than wiki)

severe goblet
#

Yeah

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Although it's reflected in the environments

bronze turtle
#

Wym

severe goblet
#

Like the areas on the maps are related to lore stuff, you can see some of it firsthand. But it's only explained really in the notes

bronze turtle
#

So the world is reflecting lore

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Like blank is like blank Bc of blank

#

Like that?

severe goblet
#

And I guess in genesis there's actual dialogue from HLNA and Rockwell, so you do get some direct exposure later on. But it wouldn't mean anything to you if you didn't know everything that came before it from the notes

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Yep exactly

bronze turtle
#

Whose hlna

severe goblet
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One of the main characters is Helena Walker, who eventually uploads her personality and mind onto the genesis ship to assist survivors

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HLNA is what the simulation of her Is called

bronze turtle
#

So like angel from borderlands 2

bold dove
# bronze turtle Whose hlna

HLN-A is the fractural personality of Helena pre-Homo-Deus.
Helena created her to guide the survivor on the Genesis-ship.

bronze turtle
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Ik it’s 2 different games

bold dove
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Angel was the same character through and through.
HLN-A and Helena are separate beings.

severe goblet
#

Yeah it's not really her, its like a copy of her

bronze turtle
#

Is pre homo deus meant to be translated from Latin to ___

bold dove
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This would be more like Helena creating a child and that child inheriting their personality.

severe goblet
#

Transhumans eventually advance so much that they can ascend to a more evolved form of human called homo deus

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Helena eventually becomes one

bronze turtle
#

So god humans

severe goblet
#

Yeah basically

bold dove
#

Gods that also can't do shit in our universe.

bronze turtle
#

Isn’t overseer sorta like a god iirc?

bold dove
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Gods that are so powerful, that they create their own pocket universe.

bronze turtle
#

But we made overseer?

bold dove
bronze turtle
#

Oop

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Wait there’s multiple overseers

severe goblet
#

Humans built the technology to put them in the arks, and homo deus sort of occupy them

bold dove
bronze turtle
#

I was bout to say that

severe goblet
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Each ark has an overseer, it just maintains the ark. It's like the central computer of the ark

bold dove
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The CPU of the Motherboard.

bronze turtle
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So where is the overseer located

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Like there’s outside the playerview right

severe goblet
#

Yes, they're deep inside the ark, you can only teleport to them

bold dove
bold dove
bronze turtle
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I’ve heard abt it but never been to the map itself only island

bold dove
#

This isn't going to work most likely. But let me see.

severe goblet
bold dove
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Noope.
Didn't work

bold dove
bronze turtle
#

Sure

bold dove
bronze turtle
#

Oh yeha that

bold dove
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The pillar on the left side that looks like a upside down L is where the overseer of each ARK is located.
It's also where the Hall of History is located and the final fight on The Island.

bronze turtle
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I’ve seen that I was talking to jimx abt that thing

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What are the bosses in island

bold dove
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Broodmother Lyrix, Megapithicus, The Dragon, The Overseer.

bronze turtle
#

I thought overseer is like one the genesis bosses

bold dove
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Nope. Since that wouldn't make sense.

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Genesis 1 is within a simulation. And Genesis-2 is on a colony ship.

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The overseer is the final boss on The Island.

bronze turtle
#

So do you play the maps in the time they were released or by the dlc maps

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For lore

severe goblet
#

What do you mean

bronze turtle
#

Like for the canon maps

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What order (if there’s an order) do you play it

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Like ik it’s island - se then that’s all I know

severe goblet
#

You can play it in any order you want, but the order they came out in and the story goes is island, se, aberration, extinction, genesis 1 , genesis 2

bronze turtle
#

And those all are the canon maps right

severe goblet
#

Yeah

bronze turtle
#

Is there any reason that their in that order

severe goblet
#

Yeah, that's how the story plays out

bronze turtle
#

Like I kinda thought of a way that made sense in my head but I get confused at se then I kinda get it back together in ab to extinction

severe goblet
#

What confuses you with se?

bronze turtle
#

Like I use to think island was a lush humanity then something happened to it then it became se but the I forgot they are all separate arks

severe goblet
#

Ah yeah nope, totally separate arks

bronze turtle
#

How did the maps get their names

#

Like se and island make sense but couldn’t extinction make sense for all of em

heavy sandal
#

they are named what the devs named them

rigid palm
#

Thats like asking why a desert is called a desert

#

Obviously its cause its deserted, but also they just named it that

#

Not much reason, and no need for a reason

bronze turtle
#

Oh ok

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Wasn’t sure if there were anything behind the names

rigid palm
#

I mean I feel like they’re pretty obvious (even if theres not much reasoning behind it)

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Aberration is an aberration, ext is an extinct earth

bold dove
bronze turtle
plain plover
#

I like Ark’s trend of naming the maps obscure words

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Aberration was perfect and Extinction wrote itself with the dinosaurs

#

Crystal isles and Lost island are stupid names why aren’t they like Ragnarok and Valguero

#

Does Valguero even mean something in some language

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I hate that they didn’t come up with a good name for Genesis 1, I get they would have to go without referencing the simulations name but I would trade that if si didn’t have to say Gen 2

lyric tendon
merry cipher
#

they have an obsession with X Island/Isles

teal kelp
#

Imo the best name is Scorched Earth but Aberration and Extinction are real close

glossy crown
willow wharf
#

Can some "lore nerd" tell me what the overseer protocol was from those messages on extinction? (Those hanging signs in the Sanctuary)

willow wharf
#

Be cool if the overseers had human consciousness

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Ooh and then relate that to HLNA

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bro thats fire lore

fallow sapphire
fallow sapphire
bronze turtle
#

Is there a god of ark

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
#

O

bronze turtle
#

Who made all the arks

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
#

So they are time travelers

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
#

Wait but you said tek people of the future

lyric tendon
#

yes

bronze turtle
#

Wait are you referring to the time period were in compared to when they were?

lyric tendon
#

but the tek people are different from us the players

bronze turtle
#

Ohh

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We’re they in the war

#

Or did they ignore the war

lyric tendon
#

the war is already over, if you played Ext. you see the aftermath of the war

severe goblet
#

They created the war

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It was just humans hundreds of years from now

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And the game we play happens hundreds of years after that

lyric tendon
#

let me make some tl;dr timeline on what is going on

two Tek factions are at war for Element

the war caused massive environmental disaster that (almost) wiped all known species on earth

the factions called truce and try to salvage what is left of humanity by making GMO dinosaurs to resist the corruption

things get worse as Titans and Corrupted Creatures exist

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the URE made the ProtoARKs to keep the corruption at bay

made the ARKs launch to space

the Feds made the Gen Ship in case the ARKs failed and Earth is a lost cause

bronze turtle
#

Ohhh

#

What are protoarks

lyric tendon
#

the smaller ARKs in Extinction

severe goblet
#

The first test arks they made

bronze turtle
#

Who are the feds and

severe goblet
#

They kept them on earth instead of launching them since they were the first try

bronze turtle
#

What’s gmo dinos

lyric tendon
lyric tendon
severe goblet
# bronze turtle Who are the feds and

It's so far into the future from now, humanity has developed and advanced so much thanks to element, there are basically two political parties for the whole earth

lyric tendon
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we in the other hand are just clones made by the ARKs/Gen Ship on what humanity used to be

severe goblet
#

But it's bigger than politics, it's a whole thing lol

bronze turtle
#

Which group were stronger and was anyone winning the war

lyric tendon
#

neither

#

again the war made an environmental impact that cause the war to end

#

basically the Element wins the war

bronze turtle
#

Wym you can see the aftermath In extinction

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Is it a big spoiler

lyric tendon
bronze turtle
#

I have all dlc but only played island

lyric tendon
#

then its a big spoiler for you

bronze turtle
#

Isn’t extinction the one in a cave

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Wait nvm that’s ab

severe goblet
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Extinction occurs on the destroyed earth

lyric tendon
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you have to read the notes in this order
Island > SE > Ab > Ext

severe goblet
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It's destroyed because of the war and element's effects

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So the war itself happened long before you play

bronze turtle
lyric tendon
bronze turtle
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Wait where is ab taken place

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Just in a giant cave right

heavy sandal
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ab is a broken ark

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you are just underground most of the time because the atmosphere of the ark has mostly leaked out so it's too spicy on the surface during the day

bronze turtle
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Is that it?

severe goblet
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There's different environments within the cave system, it's a whole map

bronze turtle
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So there’s a whole ass ocean desert and mountain range in a cave

rigid palm
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Above a cave ;-;

bronze turtle
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O

severe goblet
bronze turtle
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O

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Ty for explaining all this stuff even if I might not understand

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I genuinely appreciate it

hybrid token
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what happened to the new legion after nerva died?

lyric tendon
patent osprey
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Didn't most of them die in overseer

merry cipher
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i'm pretty sure he lost all of his men and creatures.

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Yeah, everyone died except for him in the New Legion in the fight (and he of course dies afterwards)

"I had not expected to battle another monster, much less one so powerful. Yet here I stand, victorious! My men lie dead, my beasts lie dead, yet I still stand!"

hybrid token
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That's sad, I wish the new legion transfered to scorched earth or abberation. His explorer notes were my favorite throughout my time on the island

ember solar
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Nerva does go to ab

grand tartan
bronze turtle
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What’s nerva and new legion

rigid palm
bronze turtle
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Still confused

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So did they make the he simulation

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Or what

rigid palm
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Nerva is an old roman dude, starts a tribe called new legion and wants to conquer stuff

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Would take like 4 seconds to google

bronze turtle
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Ok but it didn’t say he started a tribe new legion

fallow sapphire
vital robin
bold dove
lyric tendon
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Krunchy Fried Centurion

bronze turtle
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💀

severe goblet
bronze turtle
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O

bronze turtle
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Was there ever a ruler over the arks

fallow sapphire
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And in a general sense, no. The closest someone from the arks got to ruling an ark was Rockwell when he became the overseer of aberration

lyric tendon
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without the Overseers, the ARK starts to destabilize until someone or something infused with element took its place by the ARK's automatic system

bronze turtle
fallow sapphire
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Then no, i would say Raia got the closest to “ruling” an ark as she got a good amount of the people on the ark to join her. But look at what happened to them. There has never been a king over an ark or all the arks cause the overseers wouldnt allow it

bronze turtle
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Why not

fallow sapphire
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Because the whole point is to survive, evolve, and grow to be able to take on earth’s challenges. By controlling an ark you have decided to not continue to try and evolve, and even if they were for some reason good with you taking over an ark you wouldnt be able to take over multiple or them all because the only “transferring” between arks is ascensions

bronze turtle
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O

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Yeah ig

forest wadi
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Question about element:
Why is element still used for so many items (weapons, armor, building and so on), altough it caused corruption and extinction on earth? I mean the creators of the ARKs knew it was dangerous, but they used it to build the ARKs and they made it available for humans/survivors through bossfights. How did they ensure, that the element does not corrupt the ARKs too?

plain plover
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well, they had systems in place, systems that broke when Aberration's column was blown up

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after the Arks returned to Earth, all element was destroyed, all of it.

bronze turtle
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When were all the arks created, where they always there or what

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Sorry if this is not making sense

ember solar
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After the tek war which was 24th century i think

ashen pebble
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Created prob before that, but then they got launched

ember solar
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pretty sure the war was the reason that they needed to be made in the first place but maybe im wrong

lyric tendon
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No it's the aftermath of the war

ember solar
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yeah, my point was that the arks were made after the war when BabyKnxckz said before

severe goblet
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So we had to learn how to handle it

bronze turtle
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Is there a god of the universe in ark

barren grove
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The machines are gods to our survivor, so probably whatever made them.

heavy sandal
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why would there be a god if it's kinda just our universe but hundreds or thousands of years in the future. there are a few religious people in the notes, though

bronze turtle
bronze turtle
barren grove
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I dunno I saw a video like 3-5 years ago of the survivor being on a spacecraft in ark and talking to a machine if I remember correctly.

heavy sandal
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nerva worshiped greek roman? gods and Raia was an ancient egyptian priests

bronze turtle
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Would they fight each other or were they chill with eachother

heavy sandal
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they never met

bronze turtle
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O

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Like 2 different areas or just a different time period

heavy sandal
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nerva died on the island and Raia was on se

bronze turtle
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O

barren grove
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It seems the video I saw was the final ascension ending, which I do not want to spoil, because my game Forgot about it and I rather not watch more than 1 minute in that video.

heavy sandal
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and I guess Gabriel/Ixion was religious too

bronze turtle
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What did they worship

heavy sandal
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Serapis

bronze turtle
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So I googled it and it’s just a man? Or am I dumb

heavy sandal
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he's like the Greek fanfiction version of Osiris from Egyptian mythology

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it's more interesting than that, but I'm not a mythology buff so I dont really know that whole story

bronze turtle
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Is he was made by us?

heavy sandal
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yeah like all gods and mythology

bronze turtle
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O ok

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Ty that’s interesting

worn sentinel
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what is the among us lore

lyric tendon
merry cipher
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actually if you think about it genesis 2 is kind-of like among u[i am instantly shot to death]

desert patrol
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Ark is about humans losing braincells to crackhead therizos

rain dock
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Youre not wrong lol

lyric tendon
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More than that tbh

sour flare
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..

ionic sonnet
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Has anyone fallen in love in this game?

worn sentinel
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If 4000 hours is the yes.

hasty creek
lime blaze
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i have a 4000 hour playing streak in the game

topaz pike
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Dang that's impressive

lyric tendon
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i'm not really impressed by "hours" tbh

i mean i have 4k hours as well, but still a bob lol

arctic bison
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we are all bob

rain dock
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I mean when there are people with 30k hours in the game, 4k doesn't sound like much lol

rigid palm
hybrid token
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How did Mei Yin take a giga with her to the boss fight, you can't do that, we should ban her for cheating smh

tropic vault
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bro is a cheater

rigid palm
graceful girder
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does that mean mei yin is technically a god?

lyric tendon
graceful girder
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💀 true

rain dock
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In any case she did beat titans with a single mek too

exotic root
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Egg

scenic perch
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Egg

obtuse sorrel
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Egg

ember solar
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what kind of Egg

obtuse sorrel
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Tek Mek egg

bronze turtle
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How were the tek creatures made

rigid palm
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They weren’t

bold dove
rigid palm
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I don’t

bold dove
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👀

rigid palm
bold dove
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Still a false statement. 😛

rigid palm
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Not false until proven false

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Just not true either

bold dove
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Which i believe The One Who Waits or Marc confirmed that they where created.

rigid palm
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Alr then, it is false

bold dove
lyric tendon
bold dove
lyric tendon
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HD Helena notes

bold dove
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If i remembered, i would've said which one.

ember solar
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Well we see corrupted tek dinos on extinction, maybe they tried to make more powerful robot dinos to fight off the corruption but it still wasn’t enough

wanton pagoda
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I have always imagined that tek dinos are regular ark simulation dinos but glitched so their cap level is different and their "skin" failed to render in so we are seeing what all ark dinos ACTUALLY look like. 😓

bold dove
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Besides Genesis-1.

wanton pagoda
bold dove
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What?

wanton pagoda
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you are funny

bold dove
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.....How?

wanton pagoda
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It's a compliment

bold dove
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It can also be a insult. RexFingerGuns

wanton pagoda
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but if I say it's a compliment, then why take it as an insult?

bold dove
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Who said i was. 👀

wanton pagoda
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lol idk something about all the dots before asking me how

bold dove
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Well, correcting someone then said person says the corrector is 'funny' is a bit odd.

wanton pagoda
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I can't help it, you made me laugh.

bold dove
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By telling you a correction?

wanton pagoda
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I guess I took it as you were pointing that out for comedic effect rather than being toxic.

bold dove
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I'm either the biggest joke in the universe, have good humor, or i'm gaining schizophrenia.

wanton pagoda
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huh, well I wish you all the luck in figuring that one out

bold dove
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Wait......what where we talking about again?

wanton pagoda
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🤷

severe goblet
# bold dove ARK isn't in a simulation.

I mean to be fair, the creatures are artificially generated by the arks. It is theoretically possibly that the explanation could be what they said, or at least some sort of glitch in the system causing them to spawn that way

bold dove
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Silence trend

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👀

lyric tendon
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it's a big what if what we are in the ARK is a simulated memory from HLNA/The One Who Waits

bold dove
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No

lyric tendon
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mmmyeeesss

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think about it

bold dove
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I wont

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Thinking hurts

lyric tendon
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then dont

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saves me time from typing long ass theorycrafting

bold dove
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Good.
Thinking hurt. U no do think

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me tink gd whn u n tink

bronze turtle
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Who is the overseer again

plain plover
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Juan Cortez , Known locally as “Lord Foog the 2st”

lyric tendon
bold dove
crude shadow
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Joe V. Overseer

plain plover
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He has a podcast called “Crop plots and compasses”

fallow oxide
lyric tendon
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TBF during Helena's time, Tek Dinos, Cryopods, and literal Tek doesnt exist

rain dock
lyric tendon
open plume
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So I've been learning the lore little by little and I get that the survivors are essentially clones.. But is there an explanation as for why the dinosaurs are there?(I guess human experimentation or result or yet more cloning?)

rigid palm
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Ig humans thought dinos were more challenging to survive than modern day creatures

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Plus the creators of the arks were secretly huge jurassic park nerds

open plume
rigid palm
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Ah they’re genetically modified just like the humans

open plume
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So they are just clones. Just human experimentation lol

open plume
rigid palm
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They’re clones, but they’re also genetically modified so that their memories are mostly suppressed (at least on the ship, can’t remember about the arks)

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Whereas the dinos are 100% genetically modified, and very clearly not super accurate

lyric tendon
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In the ARKs they are not, the personality and physical features are 1 is to 1 unlike in the Gen Ship

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I was watching a Warhammer 40k parody called "If the Emperor have TTS" the (second to the) last episode is about getting the Proteus Protocol

This is essentially similar how the Gen Ship does does with their clones, transferring "souls" to another flesh

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Is it just me or how Gen is written is a hodge podge of references relating to space

unborn beacon
rigid palm
unborn beacon
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Yea
No one had their memories suppress
Where in the lore is this supported?

lyric tendon
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Currently the tidbit in Gen 1 explains the process of getting the memories used for cloning

In Gen 2 possibly Gabriel shows evidence having 2 personality or rather memory in a single person

unborn beacon
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Hmm
I'm gonna have to re-read the gen1-2 notes
Those I don't have memorize like most of the others

fallow sapphire
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I mean in a general sense, the memories would only go to a certain point cause they wouldnt want anyone remembering their deaths, and they wouldnt want a 20 year old clone to have the memories of when they were 80 (this is for the arks). By Gabriels notes it seems people on the genesis ship knew they died

wary ruin
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I read the Raia notes, and goddamn does she have an unlucky time on the ark

silk hollow
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Rexs breeding in ya bum is why Rockwell is mad

dapper oak
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anyone know how to get harpoon blueprint?

ember solar
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Genesis

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Lore harpoons of course

dapper mason
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any idea how I can catch up on the ark lore in a digestible manner

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like a good playlist on YouTube

mental basin
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He's made mini movies of all the notes up to the end of SE.

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He's exceptional at it, in fact.

ornate hull
bold dove
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They are

ornate hull
bold dove
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And Rockwell's

ornate hull
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I thought so

candid pawn
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How much lore is there, like an estimate of how long it would take to read and understand

bold dove
candid pawn
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Oh that’s not too bad, ty

bold dove
candid pawn
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Awesome tysm

dapper mason
bold dove
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That's not that long

dapper mason
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man I'll wait 500 years for the next needy lore guides instead

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I ain't dunking 4 hours

bold dove
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You think that's bad?
Try to learn Fallouts or The Elder Scrolls lore.
That shit has weeks worth of lore.

candid pawn
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Exactly

lyric tendon
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Try Warhammer 40k that is almost 30 years of lore

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and an entire Audible library

unborn beacon
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Ah yes
Warhammer 40k where everything and nothing makes sense

unborn beacon
tender wasp
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Ark Lore you easily can read in some hours.. it is not very rich or deep compared.

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Also generaly said, if people are not willing to even invest 2-4h to read Ark lore, why should Lore people waste their time and answer questions for those people when reading the notes answer them ?

lyric tendon
tender wasp
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And you still invest time for, even more than simply reading the notes which you also have read allready I guess.

lyric tendon
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It's extra immersive if the Voice Actor reads it for you

tender wasp
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Yes, if he is good it is, but also will need you to invest time to listen to it like with a audio book.

dusk kelp
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Wtf is the overseer

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I’m asking to like know wtf the drops are and that’s what I got out of a friend

lyric tendon