lore-nerdz

[ember solar]

Who knows how optimized it will be though

[bronze turtle]

they said it was optimized for xbox series x and s, didnt mention xbox one or pc

[flint palm]

Only time will tell I guess, but I am pretty hopeful that it's going to be way more optimised than Ark ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric tendon]

even if it's well optimized, good graphics = more memory hugging

[flint palm]

it is what it is

[bronze turtle]

expect it to be buggy on release

[rocky quest]

Same

It’s probably gonna be expensive knowing ark 1 and all it’s dlcs

[bronze turtle]

like 60 dollars i bet

[rocky quest]

When I got it in 2017 it was 80$

[bronze turtle]

including dlcs?

[rocky quest]

Nah

Just it

[bronze turtle]

tf

[rocky quest]

Had all the dlcs except ab and it went off market so I had to get all the dlc packet just for ab 💀

[gusty turret]

Im willing to bet Ark 2 will be 80

Good games are getting more and more expensive

Hell bad games are getting more and more expensive

I spend 120 on ghost recon breakpoint and it was horrible

[lyric tendon]

laughs in friend pass

jokes aside but i usually waiting for sales more

[bronze turtle]

theyre making games above 60?

[gusty turret]

😒

[hasty creek]

I got a beta code so i knew how bad it was before i bought it

[gusty turret]

Thats why im not buying rust console edition lmao

I also would've known not to buy fallout 76 but i was suspended from psn the week of the beta

[hasty creek]

Bought fallout 4 the day before Microsoft bought bethesda

[gusty turret]

Fallout 4 slapped even with microtransactions because they weren't really op or anything

[warm jolt]

😂

[worthy atlas]

I was looking through websites and I got an ad for a company called Rockwool

[narrow geyser]

hey does anyone know why there are dinosaurs on earth and why they added dinosaurs to the arks?

i don’t really understand the use of dinosaurs

[lyric tendon]

"because it makes things very challenging"

[narrow geyser]

makes sense

[gusty turret]

Wasn't it something to do with dinosaurs being more adaptable so they would be better in a large variety of environments?

Also dinosaurs on Earth because of the Ark Park and the experimental Arks kinda broke so they just walked out of those

[rigid palm]

All that is false

The real reason: devs secretly copy jurassic park

[gusty turret]

Why are you a turkey now

[rigid palm]

[granite surge]

Guys il resum ark lore : guy wake up whit wierd thing on arm tame monk beat boss and do it again but other maps

[ornate hull]

You forgot incest dino

[granite surge]

Oh right mb

[gleaming sky]

There are some reasons why the ARK creators (lore ARK creators) added dinosaurs and other extinct creatures. In Genesis: Part 1, HLN-A noted that the creators saw the human-dino combination as strangely great. In Genesis: Part 2, Santiago notes the faint possibility that dinosaurs and other extinct creatures may have actually lived alongside humans. Those same creatures could have greatly helped civilizations survive eco disasters.

[gusty turret]

I like my reason of more adaptability better

Plus we literally see that throughout the game, creatures in all kinds of environments that have evolved in some way to have a better chance at survival in said environment

Bioluminescence and thicker hide being the most notable

[lyric tendon]

but that's your headcanon

[gusty turret]

Its more of an observation than anything

[bronze turtle]

Does anyone have a clue as to how strong Tek really is in comparison to today's metals and the like? I'm doing a comparison between Element structures/weaponry and other empires from media (Forerunners from Halo, Galactic Empire from star wars, etc)

How strong meaning how much a tek structure could take before crumbling, what kind of damage a tek rifle could do (it might be similar to plasma but im not entirely sure), that kind of thing.

[ember solar]

well in game it takes 4.5x less damage then metal, from explosives at least

[bronze turtle]

I wish I knew what metal it actually was. Metal is such a vague name, but that's useful enough for the moment.

[gleaming sky]

In comparison to today's metals, Element is infinitely better than every single element in the ARK universe. The One Who Waits/Homo deus Helena said that it is harder than tungsten (a metal that can handle very high temperatures), and more versatile than copper (a metal used in cables, appliances, and other things). Element is unrivaled in generating electricity and radiation. In lore, when Element was first discovered, discoveries, inventions, technology skyrocketed. When the other metals and other fuel sources that found throughout human history, they didn't make as much as an impact. In short, Element has no restraints on what it can do.

Also, the explorer notes describe Element to be radioactive like uranium and plutonium, but its effects are far more dangerous to living things.

[bronze turtle]

Well that's enough info for me! Cheers for that, it's been a long while since I read up any of the lore so I figured I'd ask here.

[gleaming sky]

Also, Element has a consciousness and it acts like an organism, a characteristic no known element has. It is also able to turn itself into massive Titans/kaijus if concentration is high enough.

[bronze turtle]

Ark's lore is so cool, lmao. Thanks for the reminder

[gleaming sky]

There was an addendum in Diana's Extinction notes about Element. Element's periodic table symbol is Ex. In Earth's crust composition in ARK lore, Element is the 3rd most common chemical on Earth. It is ahead of Iron and Aluminum, two common metals found today.

[gusty turret]

Element is anything you need it to be

mmmmmmmm

[bronze turtle]

element is op as hell.

[gusty turret]

I need element to shapeshift into Ryan Reynolds

Ryan Reynolds would be a better Santiago

He's supposed to be geeky not big buff bald man

[bronze turtle]

yeah i agree

[gusty turret]

Ryan Reynolds could play anything and id love it

[heavy sandal]

buff bald men can be nerdy geeky dweebos

[tender wasp]

nearly everybody would have been better than "I have only one facial expression" Vin Diesel, who has the varitiy of a stone when it comes to acting and a reason Buff bald Diesel will be a joke as Santiago.. all he will be is his typical Dominic Torette cringe char.

But Ark 2 will be primitve.. so Diesel only needs to play Onga bonga head smash Caveman without the need to be smart and to use Tek.. which still makes me wonder why the not simply have used a new char for him, like some soldier or similar..

[ember solar]

Nobody said he wasn’t smart anymore and it does make some sense for survivors to be given more fit bodies for a hostile new world but if the ab/extinction one is just vin idk anymore

[lyric tendon]

i mean his brain is rearranged from all the "respawning" by Ulma

[tender wasp]

Which is the biggest joke of all cause big buff steroid body is one of the worst things for survival...cause that is not a survivor body..needs to much energy, to much muscle mass that is not needed and makes the person "slow".. cause these muscles are sluggish and not effective.

Not to talk of the time he must invest to keep is body free every tiny hair..

And that he is not the smartest shows the trailer alone..

[vague tiger]

What we talking about

[supple vortex]

How does Rockwell go from aberration to gen 2

[plain plover]

On earth there is a super transmitter

[gusty turret]

We kill king titan, Helena triggers the reseeding, Aberration crashes to Earth, Rockwell goes to Arat prime and beams himself into the simulation

[gleaming sky]

It is uncertain, as he may have either slithered all the way to Arat Prime or did some weird trick to get there really fast.

[bronze turtle]

only lore i need is that hlna is annoying af

[gusty turret]

Arat prime is literally the only way he could've gotten there short of having admin powers

He simply crawled through space and time

[rigid palm]

Theres any number of ways if you use creativity

[gusty turret]

Using creativity vs using whats practically given to us

We know he started in the simulation, same as us, and corrupted his way out, putting 2 and 2 together, that would lead us to believe he used Arat prime, same as us

[rigid palm]

Process of elimination only works if everything else can actually be eliminated

And it can’t, because wc hasnt confirmed it

[red mist]

ride that updraft

[ember solar]

You can make her never talk if you really want to

You have options

Except for the gen 2 auto notes….

[teal kelp]

don't be shy, exomek standing by (yes i'm so foken funi) -HLNA 2021 against the final boss

[dapper vortex]

ark is actually halo

after fighting off the covenant for years they need safe training for civilians

so thats genesis 1

genesis 2 is a ring. spawn in abb is a that one thing in halo 3 where you kill the prophet

[deep garnet]

heleana vs rockwell somone trued to argue this with me

[wooden snow]

You know what would be cool

If Santiago at the end of ark 2 woke up and it was all just a dream

Earth never died

All just a bad nightmare

[ember solar]

Bad trope

[vale rapids]

?

[gusty turret]

Written like a 3rd grader story

I wouldn't be surprised tho

[wooden snow]

Ark in a nutshell

Ok so we got these arks that save earth and teach humans how to survive by making them co-exist with dinosaurs. And they have to kill the overseer of the ark beacuse screw leadership. Oh and then they go to different arks and stuff. (fast forward) so there’s this guy named Rockwell who took over an ark and we have to kill him. We kill him then we go to earth which is ruled by giant monsters that you have to kill. You kill them and the arks descend as humanity is saved. But wait it’s not beacuse earth apparently is to messed up so where just goona leave it on a large colony ship which dosint make sense because then what’s the point of the arks. Anyways turns out your in a simulation run by Rockwell who survived death and took over the colony ship. How he does this is unknown. Anyways you destroy the simulation and wake up in the colony ship. You then have to try to take down Rockwell for the 3rd time. 3rd times the charm eh. Anyways you kill him and the colony ship explodes sending all the humans into another planet. Good concept just terrible execution.

[ember solar]

You don’t kill rockwell on ab and even if you did the ark would respawn him but you don’t because he is too op

[wooden snow]

How does he survive then

The entire purpose of the arks are to purge the element. And Rockwell is essentially element at this point.

[ember solar]

Have you seen ab its 50 % liquid element

[wooden snow]

All of that should have been purged

[ember solar]

And even though they are meant to destroy the corruption and therefore element they are made from it because humans could not have created them otherwise so while they are in space before the reseed then they would not purge it because they need it to function also aberrations ark was broken so that can explain it not

[wooden snow]

I think humans could create the arks. If they can build that colony ship and those citys then they could build the arks. The arks were supposed to purge all the element. I’m sure 1 ark would not cause a complete breakdown..

[ember solar]

Those are all powered and made from element as well though, even the benches and light in extinction are made from it

[wooden snow]

No there not

[ember solar]

You get element when you break them

[gusty turret]

Yes they are

You might need to read some more notes because you skipped like a good 75% of the lore aswell

[gusty turret]

It does seem rather redundant to arm the people meant to save the Earth with the same resource that destroyed it in the first place but i think that may be a plot hole

[fallow sapphire]

Well, sometimes the only to beat something is to use the same thing

Fight fire with fire

[gusty turret]

Or y'know, fight fire with water

[bold dove]

Big fat myth that water will always extinguish fire.
It's mostly wood based fires that will be extinguish by water. But most other types of fire wont.

It's why firetrucks have multiple fail safes for extinguishing fires, and not just the giant ass hose on the back of the truck.

Cause lets say it's a 'oil' based fire. Then there's no way you'll be able to get rid of it with just water. And that's where fire extinguishers come in handy. Since the foam will cover the fire and suffocate it.

[rigid palm]

You should really check that, a lot of its wrong/not clear/not completely accurate

[red mist]

i mean it's not like something other than element is powerful enough to destroy it or even defend against it [citation needed lol idk shit about lore]; and if you think differently i challenge you to beat extinction from scratch without ever using element, even in dust form

[lyric tendon]

i mean.... giga only

[wooden snow]

You sure about that lol

I believe your incorrect

[bold dove]

No, you're pretty incorrect.

[ornate hull]

Looks like someone needs to reread the notes

[lyric tendon]

yep

[rigid palm]

Yes, trying alpha kt without megamek
Always a good choice

[red mist]

i mean even with gigas it's still really important to get a mek, otherwise you have to do a lot of breeding early game... you can't tame titans easily without a mek too so the kt fight will be almost impossible

[red mist]

oh god, what am i missing? it actually looked not awful to me, do i need to reread the notes? or even read the notes for the first time?

damn these pinned posts explain things really well

[wooden snow]

I belive your statement is wrong

[bold dove]

'cough' 'cough'

No U

[red mist]

you two are inventing really unique ways of doing nothing more than negating the other's statement

try "in fact, said claim is false"

[wooden snow]

You dare use the “no U” statement upon me?

[red mist]

damn spartan, i have to respect that commitment

[bold dove]

You never kill a overseer. They just go to a state where they 'allow' you to ascend once beaten up a certain amount.
The point of dinosaurs isn't for co-existence, it's cause dinosaurs are the strongest animals to ever exist physically and medically on earth.
Rockwell doesn't 'take over a ARK' but just impedes on the survivor on ascending. Though he is 'trying' to gain control of it.
Rockwell never dies on Aberration, but pulls a overseer and retreats once hurt a certain amount. But this is due to the ARK itself still needing a fair challange for survivors. And if it wasn't for the ARK forcefully retreating him, he'd be able to fuck us up.
Also, Earth isn't 'too messed up to save' (even though i would've liked that)
It's never explained 'why' we're on the Genesis-ship. And it's just a oversight of the writer.
You also don't destroy the simulation, but beat the now "corrupted" master controller to prove your ready for "the arrivial" and wake up from it. Not destroying it.

They have the "gist" of it. But any points they made on mistake where pretty big.

[red mist]

oh yea, i actually do remember helena writing about how rockwell will be resurrected repeatedly, only to die, and that being a punishment for his actions. i also remember that the genesis-ship didn't really make that much sense lol

[bold dove]

It makes sense, but it doesn't make sense the 'how' we're on it.

[red mist]

good to know that lore nerdz are willing to spend five minutes writing a series of corrections just to keep me from reading the explorer notes and thereby joining their ranks lmao /j

[bold dove]

The Genesis-ship was made by the Terran Federation as 'their' version of the ARK's.
Even though the URE and the Fed's where working together when the corruption came. They still had separate safety measures for the survival of humanity.
So the URE created the ARK's, which would save Earth itself and life on it. While the Genesis-ship was to store data of all life and people that have ever existed and bring them to a different planet 'just' in-case the ARK's didn't work.

[red mist]

i knew that, surprisingly

thx for the summary! it was very well explained

[gusty turret]

Beat extinction without element?

Sounds easy ngl

I can't think of anything id need it for?

Am i allowed to transfer to other maps to get stuff or no?

[bold dove]

I'd say 'no'

[gusty turret]

Titans are gonna be a pain without wyverns but its still manageable

[rigid palm]

Again, I doubt any pc in the world could handle enough gigas in one area to take down alpha kt without a megamek

(Obvious exaggeration, but still)

[gusty turret]

I wanna see like a million kentros vs the king titan

[tender wasp]

KT wins by burning your PC.

[lyric tendon]

Very meta

[gusty turret]

Gonna play ark on a Nasa computer

[ruby tangle]

oh extremely late but i got the closest thing we’re gonna get to an answer on why the arks have and utilize element despite element being the problem

canonically it was never purely the use of element that was the issue it was the extreme overuse from literally a century of element fueled warfare the situation would never have escalated that far without it

and the fact that the arks exist means element can actually be managed pretty easily since they were able to purge an entire planet, the technology to clean the earth literally exists so as long as things don’t get to the point they did in the big war it should be managable

well maybe not easily is the best term but if planet wide recovery is possible regular cleaning to prevent buildup is more than plausible

[bold dove]

This is even more solidfied with Genesis-2 being set on a colony ship that has a shit load of element on it. But they never had issues with it until Rockwell came.

[ruby tangle]

and the infrastructure is already in place with the ark plan

[bold dove]

Element 'can' be controlled, if done right.
But using it for wars is not the way.

[rigid palm]

Isn’t that what the stryder is for tho

[ruby tangle]

oh speaking of which that has a super terrifying implication no one ever seems to talk about

[bold dove]

Yes, but even before. Element wasn't 'that' high on the ship. They just didn't want to take any chances.

[gusty turret]

They really could've just brought the Arks down like a year later and there would've been like n o p r o b l e m

#plotholes

[ruby tangle]

canonically the genesis ship is jumping from star system to star system in search of a planet, thus explaining the change in asteroid resources, but the sheer number of asteroid systems containing huge quantities of element means a significant part of the galaxy if not the universe is already severely contaminated

[bold dove]

That's 'if' element is the issue.
I'm writing something on the side, so give me a bit.

[ruby tangle]

the problem was that the planet was already too far gone they needed time to fix things

so no they couldn’t just land the arks right after making them maybe if they had like a century head start it never would have gotten that bad tho

[gusty turret]

They had the technology to purge element, but they didn't use it and decided to launch it into space for hundreds of years instead, making half the world uninhabitable for god knows how long even when the Arks return due to it being completely frozen from absolutely 0 sunlight

[ruby tangle]

not permanently in extinction the earth begins rotating again iir

not entirely sure how that works but still lol

[bold dove]

A friend of mine made a decently good theory that element isn't 'inherently bad'
It seemed docile when people where just using it for petty stuff like cities, cars, technology and anything that was QoL for humanity. It seemed to be in a docile state.
But it wasn't till the tek-war, and 'far' into it that it started to become a threat.
There's no proof for this. But they have a theory that element was created by a species to be the 'ultimate' resource in the universe. Which 'that' is semi-true (in which it does literally anything.)
Though, with it also being sentient, it is possible that it's no different then a child trying to learn it's new surroundings. But like a child, it'll inherit the surrounding environment they're in.
It was docile before the tek-war due to it still learning, and also adapting to make the lives of humanity better.
But the moment the tek-war started, it started to see 'that' as the primary need to adapt since of how large the war was. And so it adapted to become a weapon.
Issue is of course, it became 'too' good of a weapon.
That, or element saw humanity as a threat due to us constantly burning it for fuel.
Either way, it's a nice little theory they made, and honestly, i kind of can believe it.

[gusty turret]

I didn't say permanently, i just said it would take god knows how long to thaw after being stuck that way for hundreds of years

[bold dove]

Actually, i figured out the 'why' they can't just land.

[ruby tangle]

but was it docile because it’s not inherently harmful or was it docile because it simply wasn’t in high enough concentrations yet

[bold dove]

This is the mystery that has yet to be explained.

[tender wasp]

Reminds me a lot of the protomolecule from The Expanse.

[ruby tangle]

and if humanity had figured out interstellar teleportation cloning and planetary terraforming i’m sure it won’t an impossible amount of time to get over the freeze issue

[gusty turret]

Is uranium docile because its not inherently harmful or is it docile because its not in high enough concentrations yet?

[ruby tangle]

tho things might be rough for a century or two

[bold dove]

Honestly, i would like if element isn't inherently evil/bad. And just did what it was made to do. Be the ultimate resource for whoever found it.
And humans being humans, took this gift and shit on it.

[ruby tangle]

uranium isn’t sentient and capable of forming giant uranium monsters with the sole goal of making more room for uranium so no

[bold dove]

Marc funnily enough did confirm that show was the inspiration for element.

[gusty turret]

W e h o p e

[tender wasp]

Oh nice XD

[ruby tangle]

not yet anyways lmao

it’s all fun and games till the nukes get up on their own

[gusty turret]

We're all busy being scared of a robot uprising we ain't even thinking about the nuke uprising

[rigid palm]

All that would not have been possible for thousands of years without element
And now all the element is gone unless they could somehow raid the genesis ship, which isn’t possible now due to the ending of gen 2

[ruby tangle]

we literally just finished explaining that element isn’t all gone hell the ships themselves run on the stuff how would they be able to finish without their own fuel

[bold dove]

Which if Marc's thinking of the lore is still 'somewhat' being taken into consideration by the new writer. Then element isn't actually bad. It is infact humanity that is the shitty ones.
Marc Soskins thoughts on element was that it was suppose to represent coal refineries and how they're killing our planet. But people complain that coal is the issue, when really it's the mass-production of warfare based tools that's the issue.
And seeing also his inspiration of element was from the show called "The Expanse" which is basically the protomolecule is what i just described as the theory.
It's getting pretty damn 'sus' if you ask me. 🤔

[gusty turret]

I don't think the Ark purged element inwards

[ruby tangle]

then element would still exist from the ships

[gusty turret]

Im willing to bet Aberration is still full of soup

[bold dove]

To be fair, seeing how element dust is edible in-game. I wouldn't be surprised if they literally fucking ate element based soups back in the day.

[rigid palm]

What ships

[ruby tangle]

plus considering how the city of extinction doesn’t vanish or crumble into dust it doesn’t target all element

[gusty turret]

The soup on Aberration is def edible right?

[ruby tangle]

probably

[gusty turret]

Is it the soup itself thats radioactive or is it just the environment

[ruby tangle]

people have probably eaten worse historically lol

[gusty turret]

Didn't some guy eat his own ears

[bold dove]

"Honey, do you know here the element-shaker is?"
"It's fucking behind you, you dumbass
"Ah yes, right. Let me pour some element into our fucking clam-chowder."

[tender wasp]

I would have to need to check in the Books if they have explained the origins of the Protomolecule.. but there are hints it was made by some Alien species if I am not mistaken.. no clue if they fully explained it by now causs there is still a book missing and I am only at book 3.

[bold dove]

I need to watch the show.

[tender wasp]

It is really good.

[bold dove]

Could be totally wrong, but i've heard the show does the books a decently good amount of justice.

[tender wasp]

It does but it will only cover the first 6 books for now.

[bold dove]

And there's 3 more books afterwards, right?

[ruby tangle]

personally i like to view element as a sorta answer to the fermi paradox, the reason why there aren’t a ton of space faring civilizations in a universe where interstellar travel is not just possible but practical is simply because they prob ended up destroying themselves with it like humanity almost did

[tender wasp]

But the show is extremly close to the books (with some minor changes yes) and the actors do the characters justice.. really good choosen cast and yes there are 3 more books for now.

[ruby tangle]

either directly through war or from simply not noticing until it became irreversible

also explains why it’s so damn common in space although that line of thought is rather morbid considering the number of habitable planets it would imply have been destroyed for there to be innumerable star systems out there just filled with contaminated rubble

[bold dove]

This could also be what element is.
Everything has a ecosystem, even the universe (i guess)
This is seen in Genesis-2 that there's natural fucking space dolphins that live in space.
Element could be the factor of proving if you're worthy of becoming a space fairing race.
That, or the apex-predator of the universe.

[gusty turret]

Its obviously not naturally harmful because there's no aggressive tentacle monsters in space

[rigid palm]

British tentacle man = apex predator of the universe?

[bold dove]

Hmmmyes.

[rigid palm]

Or are there

[ruby tangle]

just because there aren’t any at the moment doesn’t mean there weren’t any there

could just be that the element is dormant until it hits something habitable

[rigid palm]

One of the few moments where out of context makes more sense than in context

[gusty turret]

No element based aggressive tentacle monsters anyways, because the dolphins literally eat it and they're extremely friendly

[ruby tangle]

so are gachas

just give it a couple thousand years

things that live around element rarely stay nice for long

[gusty turret]

I mean technically velos and gachas and manas and gasbags and all that stuff have been around it a few hundred at least and they aren't aggressive in a way that you're referring to at least

[ruby tangle]

it also might just be that element in its liquid state physically cannot exist in a vacuum so it’s a lot harder to get well and properly affected out there

we don’t know how long they’ve been around tho it might simply not be finished yet

plus two of those live in proto arks where they would be protected from the bulk of element and one is a friggin tardigrade if anything could make it in element and come out relatively unscathed it was probably going to be them

and even they ended up wildly different

[bronze turtle]

Does anyone know if Element is unlimited as a resource? I know it was very common in the Earth when it was discovered, but I'm interested to know if it grows or 'spreads' in a sense... considering how Extinction looks, I'm just curious to know how exactly it works.

[gusty turret]

The resource itself self replicates slowly over time and the corruption spreads/grows as any living organism would except its in the Earth

So yes it basically is an unlimited resource to my knowledge at least

[bronze turtle]

That's so broken LOL

[teal kelp]

Can element beat Goku tho? Yes, yes it can

[gusty turret]

King titan would destroy Goku

Lore king titan tho not the derpy ass game one

[teal kelp]

Lore king titan would corrupt Goku

Ez

Even ingame kt would

[gusty turret]

Ingame kt is pretty garbage

[teal kelp]

I know, but if we talk about corrupting, he probably would be able to get into Goku's mind

[fast sluice]

I mean... Saiyans by definition get stronger when beaten so you can beat goku, no big deal. But you'll never beat him twice. That's kind of the whole deal with saiyans. Unlimited power but repeated beat downs. Saying something can kill goku is simplistic and easy. He's died several times. Once from a virus. (Insert covid similarity).

And... Gokus greatest strength was not his muscles or Kamehameha.

It was friendship.

The reason Frieza demoed their planet is because you can't really "beat" a saiyan. They always come back stronger. He kept the few that were loyal to him. The rest were obliterated for having the potential to be the strongest species ever.

.... I feel like I just gained 150lbs, grew a neck beard and moved into my mom's basement..... anyone have a fedora I can borrow?

[gusty turret]

So you're telling me Goku is Vin Diesel basically

[teal kelp]

I know, Goku has shown way higher feats than Lore KT did, but if KT would show everything he can, he can probably surpass Goku, why? Simple, with element they made a ship that goes faster than light, and with element they made grenades that can warp space (gravitynades), and KT is made of element

Not only that but element is said to break all rules and laws of physics and science

So, as a big fan of db, I think that a maximum potential kt can win against Goku

[fast sluice]

Once. Lol

[teal kelp]

Depends, if the gap is too big for Goku then dunno, look at Broly against Gogeta for example

Broly didn't get strong enough cuz the gap was too big

Even after Gogeta threw a finisher at him (Soul Punisher)

[fast sluice]

Well, the only reason I would pick goku over other saiyans is because he has a habit of getting out of the after life. He's broken rules too.

[teal kelp]

I mean, MUI Goku probably could beat max potential kt

[fast sluice]

He could just nuke the entire thing from space. But I mean one on one KT would probably crush him a few times before he got strong enough. Also he would die at as once so there would be gaps lol

[teal kelp]

Only thing noone in db (except Zeno) can't beat is an hypothetical Rockwell Prime who corrupted everything

[fast sluice]

It's kind of the reason DB got boring. Unlimited strength gets boring after a while

Would Rockwell prime be like the living planet in DBGT? Cause he was OP and got spanked by kids lol

[teal kelp]

The rockwell prime we have now, yes, but a hypothetical rockwell prime who won and found the main source of element is basically immortal

[fast sluice]

Hmmmm thats true. He could become unbeatable. Which, 2 unbeatable forces destroys the universe. Lol. Lots of people hated when goku fought ..... the purple kangaroo.... and they ended it by just going "wanna hit up a BBQ instead of fighting?" Haha but I loved it

"We could do this all day and break a bunch of shit, or.... my wife is making some sick dumplings....?"

[gusty turret]

One punch man beats Goku every time right?

[teal kelp]

Depends

If Saitama actually shows feats that surpass Goku's then my vote is on Saitama, outside of that I would say Goku wins basing myself on feats that have been shown, but we don't know the full extent of Saitama's strenght so assuming isn't good

But I think we are going completely offtopic, just like always

[gusty turret]

Could he beat Rockwell with tentacles up

I'll bring it back on topic

[teal kelp]

Well both Goku and Saitama could probably beat a Rockwell Tentacle

[gusty turret]

But could they beat him while his tentacles are up and his heart is protected

Since for some reason every part of him is invincible except for his heart

[teal kelp]

Probably not

If rockwell is actually invincible everywhere apart from the heart

[round beacon]

I’m pretty sure goku has the ultra instinct projection making him a very big fighter

Meaning that he could potentially be the same size as the titan king

[teal kelp]

I actually forgot that

[fast sluice]

@round beacon oooof. Good point.

[tawny geyser]

I can't seem to play the gmae with sound

[ember solar]

king titan cannot beat goku because goku is a main character

[round beacon]

Plot armor

[lyric tendon]

Yep, main characters havr always have plot armor

[ornate hull]

Jojo be like

[arctic bison]

so it's the same type of stand

[gusty turret]

What happens when 2 characters with plot armor go against each other

[ember solar]

the more popular one wins

[hasty creek]

Plot armour is almost as strong as that guy in flak armour ur fighting

[round beacon]

Too bad he’s dead

[bronze turtle]

What exactly supports this, out of curiosity? I know Element is busted as hell but I don't think it's that busted... not to my knowledge atleast.

[shut bloom]

think of it like this, it wouldn't have to beat him, because he would be under its influence within 30 seconds, maybe a minute @bronze turtle

[bronze turtle]

Through mind control?

[shut bloom]

have you seen the corrupted creatures? they are all part of the element hivemind, which the king titan is the literal manifestation of

[bronze turtle]

So it'd be just outright corruption... but there's a ki barrier between that and Goku.

Unless it can literally corrupt ki itself, lol.

[rigid palm]

Never seen anime but if theres actually a discussion about whether this goku person could kill kt, he must be super op

[shut bloom]

never really watched dbz

also, when are you changing your name back? @rigid palm

[rigid palm]

Oh right thanksgiving is over

I remembered that… 😅

[bronze turtle]

Oohh.. yeah. If you haven't watched the anime then that's fair. I was just interested to see if corruption effects even energies and the like - I kind of assume it does just out of the nature of Element itself, but you never know.

[gusty turret]

Could a death note kill the kt since it doesn't have a name?

[lyric tendon]

It doesn't have a "true name", we only give it a name

[lyric tendon]

Element has it ways to adapt tho

Before rockwell, it can't corrupt humans without the host dying

[finite fable]

Are you playing on Windows 10 version?

[round beacon]

Could the super dragon balls erase element in general?

[gusty turret]

Mmmmm i wanna talk about some super dragon balls

[round beacon]

Wait element is technically energy right? or am I wrong?

If it is then it could not only corrupt goku and everyone else, but also the super dragon balls

[lyric tendon]

it can be both

it's a biometal that can do almost everything, the almost bit is "able to corrupt humans on its own"

[teal kelp]

I mean, the super dragon balls are supposed to be able to do anything, infact they even restored multiple universes

[round beacon]

So if element is energy it can corrupt energy

[teal kelp]

Maybe

We don't know, but if it corrupts ki then it's busted

[round beacon]

Fr

[unborn beacon]

So
If we put all feats and strengths
Can King titan beats godzilla?
Both have a flame related breath
Kt can summon minions
Kt has successfully killed the planet and humanity
Godzilla(legendary movies)
Is bigger(in length) and more chonky meaning more weight
(Probably) physically more stronger

[round beacon]

If element can corrupt over time all king titan has to do is easily survive until then

Although that’s easier said than done

Was that a link I just saw 😂

[wind imp]

But at the same time godzilla feeds off radiation

A wasteland filled with radiation would make him more powerful

[round beacon]

excellent point

[wind imp]

Do we know if element Emitts radiation

[round beacon]

It think it does

Or at least the liquid form does

[unborn beacon]

Both really good points

Oh yea
Kt can summon meteors

Also solid elements(corruption included) doesn't emit radiation

[wind imp]

But the planet itself would be emitting radiation

Solar radiation would be pretty bad

[unborn beacon]

That and we carry it everywhere
We would also be infected

[unborn beacon]

That's Superman not Godzilla lol
Godzilla feeds of NUCLEAR radiation

[wind imp]

Oh yeah

Speaking of which

What would've happened to all the nuclear waste or nuclear bombs

[unborn beacon]

Lore or real life?

[wind imp]

Lore wise

[unborn beacon]

That's a good question

[wind imp]

But then again

Since there is no wind

It wouldn't be as dangerous

[round beacon]

If element was an incredible source of energy they wouldn’t need nuclear energy unless it was nuclear energy

[unborn beacon]

Wind?
There's wind in extinction

[wind imp]

Woops

[unborn beacon]

That's a very good point
What if it's a clean version of nuclear energy

[wind imp]

Yeah but the weapons

[round beacon]

Then Godzilla may be screwed

[wind imp]

Would they get rid of their nukes

[unborn beacon]

Hmmmmmmmm

[wind imp]

But it does seem that kt would win 9 out of 10 times

[round beacon]

Does it matter what nuclear energy Godzilla takes in?

[wind imp]

The main factor here is time

[round beacon]

Radiation*

[wind imp]

Both really

[round beacon]

So yeah, a battle of time

[wind imp]

Less radiation the longer it goes on

But anyways kt would most likely win every time

[unborn beacon]

Not really
Godzilla took radiation from a nuke in the face to heal
Took gahdoriah lighting(also caused by natural radiation) to go thermonuclear
But element isn't radiating
(Liquid element is only because of aberration)

Aberration is also broken that's why there's radiation
Otherwise it would be more of a cave ARK
Not a deadly cave ARK

[subtle falcon]

How did the survivor end up in the genesis part 1 simulation I thought all the arks came back to earth after the titan king was defeated

[bronze turtle]

Pretty sure that KT is a lot larger and heavier than Godzilla, just going off the wiki.

[unborn beacon]

I don't know
I was comparing KT to movie godzilla

[gusty turret]

They did and Helena beamed us into the simulation via Arat prime

[bronze turtle]

Well just going off the wiki, it says he's 150 meters tall with a weight of 186k tons, 300k at alpha. I don't believe there's an actual height in the lore, only a statement that says he's as tall as a mountain or something along those lines.
Regardless, just going off these numbers, he has a huge size and weight advantage over the G-man.

[unborn beacon]

Yea
Movie Godzilla is bigger
Standing almost 400m and at least 250k tons

[bronze turtle]

uhhh..

I don't think he's anywhere near that size. Last I checked he was around 120m tall and about 90k tons, based off the king of the monsters movie atleast.

[unborn beacon]

Not meters
I meant feet

[lyric tendon]

it's up for interpretation if it's the same survivor as the ARKs one or it's a new survivor for gen

[subtle falcon]

Did Helena put us into the simulation to save us from Rockwell when the aberration ark came back

Did Rockwell corrupt earth

[gusty turret]

Not to our knowledge, im assuming it was to combat Rockwell after she became aware he was taking over the ship but thats all speculation

[subtle falcon]

What do you mean she put us in the simulation after all the arks returned to earth

[lyric tendon]

there a big plothole between Ext and Gen

we still dont know how rockwell ends up in Arat prime and end up in the ship (through some "gate" that an idiot left it open)

[gusty turret]

It's illogical Arat prime would even still be functional anymore after all that time

[gusty turret]

plus we know that it was inactive due to the banners in sanctuary

[rigid palm]

Stop saying that as if its fact, its not confirmed

[gusty turret]

I would love to hear your ideas since you apparently have much better ones than that

[shut bloom]

woah, perry wheres the maewing?

[rigid palm]

I would love for you to say “blah blah blah, but this isn’t confirmed”

Instead of implying its confirmed

[shut bloom]

sure, perry is just stating that it isnt confirmed, my idea is: #1 leave perry alone he is just sayings its not lore confirmed #2 who asked for your opinion @gusty turret #3 bro stop being salty

[rigid palm]

Ohhh, probably in baggage claim? Left em somewhere

[shut bloom]

broooo

its not thanksgiving anymore, get that maewing back in here

[rigid palm]

Found em

He was in an overhead compartment, had to hijack a plane

[shut bloom]

ok, now that this has been dealt with, lets keep #lore-nerdz channel on topic, and talk about lore

[shut bloom]

you.. what..

[rigid palm]

Lol

[lyric tendon]

when will #lore-nerdz ever be "stay on topic"

[shut bloom]

fair point, still want to try and stay on topic tho

[rigid palm]

Channel description: “keep it on topic please”

But they never specified what is on topic

[heavy sandal]

sometimes the topic is Lore Nerd lore

or dev lore or cursed lore

[shut bloom]

my headcanon is that they wanted this to be used for ark lore

[rigid palm]

Idk, that seems like a lot of assumptions

[heavy sandal]

is it in the notes?

[subtle falcon]

There too many plot holes as to how we and Rockwell ended up on the ship and why we left earth

[tender wasp]

They said it is up to the player what happend to earth and how they endend on the ship, or if they are simply a new survivor. Also keeping open what happend to earth gives them the option to go back to it in later installements.

[mental basin]

We left Earth because Edmund did.

The Ship is somewhat similar to the ARKs, I don't see a reason why Rockwell WOULDN'T want to hijack it.

[golden knot]

I still like how when your on the island at the overseer you can see all the arks and you can really tell wish aberration lol

[subtle falcon]

I still don’t get why helena had to put herself in the robot

[vestal saffron]

She sorta explained why in gen 1's teaser trailer
"Others need me, and your path leads beyond my reach but I can grant you a fragment of myself."

[shut bloom]

she didn't technically put herself in the robot, she created the robot to guide the player, ||as explained by HL-NA in gen 2 ending, "you helped me become my own person blah blah"||

[bronze turtle]

you got sent to the ship where genesis 2 and the simulation are to kill the remenants of rockwell i think

then you killed the corrupted master and then genesis 2 started

oh wait

so after extinction all of the arks landed, but aberation crashed. rockwell survived and didnt want earth since he would prob get killed and he wasnt intrested in earth. he wanted to go to the ship where genesis is so he could go to its destination and conquer the planet. so he uploaded himself onto the network with an obelisk (or something elses idk) then the ship made a copy of his body including his corrupted form. he then proceeded to take over the ship nad waited for the ship to get to its destination

[gusty turret]

Obelisk transfer isn't canon and even if it was the Arks/obelisks within ceased function once the reseeding was completed

[gusty turret]

Its a plothole as to how hes even aware of the ships existence since they weren't even created by the same faction

[lyric tendon]

also we don't know if Rockwell really do abandon the earth to chase the Gen ship for no reason

it's out of character of him to not take over the earth while no one is defending it tho

[rigid palm]

Must have been signs nearby ab crash site

“Free ship”
“Easy takeover”
“One press of a button is all it takes”

[gusty turret]

Yeah they had billboards around Abbs launch site

Free ship this way on the next exit->

[rigid palm]

“Huge ship - age: hundreds if not thousands of years. Gender: ship. Looking for: tentacle man”

[unborn beacon]

The whole save us from Rockwell
No
If anything Rockwell needs saving

That bastard killed my favorite glowtail

loads shotgun with malicious intent

[subtle falcon]

If Helena said she couldn’t come with us, the place were going being genesis then that means she’s on earth with the other survivors

[unborn beacon]

No actually
She's basically God now and she helped us get hnla

[subtle falcon]

But in genesis 2 before you fight Rockwell HLN-A says “the crews dead, the ships becoming meat, and you’re awake so does that mean others were sent with us to stop Rockwell

But if she’s back on earth then that means everything is okay

[lyric tendon]

no confirmation still

[unborn beacon]

Earth SHOULD be better
Nothing is confirmed

[lyric tendon]

they dont show us if the Earth is really OK or Ab starts corrupting the world again

[subtle falcon]

If the earth is okay and the full Helena is there then that should mean ark 2 will be Santiago crashing back down to earth or the planet Rockwell was heading to

[lyric tendon]

no ARK 2 is set on a different planet

they will never go back to earth (at the current state)

[subtle falcon]

But earth was okay though

The arks healed the planet

[lyric tendon]

you should see the true ending after you beat the alpha king titan

[subtle falcon]

And all the survivors and tamed dinos from the arks started walking into the earth

[subtle falcon]

You mean the aberration ark activating

[lyric tendon]

ab is always "activated" and it's the last ARK that is remained corrupted

there is no confirmation that the earth is "ok"

[subtle falcon]

But I thought that Rockwell left the earth alone and took the ship to go find a new planet

[lyric tendon]

that's the "big plothole problem"

in the notes, Rockwell is always known to be an egomaniac, he be out of character if he didn't took over the earth while he got the chance because "free ship"

[rigid palm]

No remember mazzy? He saw the advertisement and thought it was too good an opportunity to pass up

[subtle falcon]

Well then that’s kindve disappointing that after conquering all the arks just like Helena, mei, and Santiago did beating the king titan when they failed to beat the earth still gets taken over

[lyric tendon]

the state of Earth is still "up for debate"

[subtle falcon]

It’s crazy how much lore ark has now

Remember when it was just game about an island with dinosaurs

[lyric tendon]

if you do read the notes, there is a lot of the lore most people missed

[bronze turtle]

To some extent, I hope the earth is alright. It'd feel a tiny bit cheap to say he survived again... Even though I could see it.

[gusty turret]

They have to make ark 3 somehow

[lyric tendon]

more like he respawned again

[bronze turtle]

Lmao

[bold dove]

Last time i checked. Floating metal spires isn't normal, even from the start.

[subtle falcon]

Well those were just some mysterious things people didn’t play much attention to

[obtuse remnant]

Anybody have a good link to where to begin on learning the lore behind the game? Like a YouTube video or something?

[bold dove]

"people didn't pay much attention to"
'Theorizers back in 2015-early 2017'

[gusty turret]

Theorists are a myth to distract you from the dinosaurs

[bronze turtle]

so where are the remains of the tek warriors who initially plunged the world into extinction? are they and their equipment long since swallowed up by element?

you would think there would be at least one old ruined tek tank or tek suit somewhere just for flavor

[lyric tendon]

you can find the memorial of ARK Santiago's Mek

[bronze turtle]

no other traces of the tek conflict?

beyond ghost town?

[lyric tendon]

i mean like all wars, there are some parts of the world don't have much remnants of past wars

[bronze turtle]

usually because people loot or scrap those remnants

[lyric tendon]

possible, element is easily reusable as scrap metal

[bronze turtle]

hmmm

[gusty turret]

You can barely tell ww2 happened and that was less than 100 years ago, the tek war ended with a truce so both nations could put effort into saving humanity, i wouldn't really expect to see any tanks or anything

Theres no reason to believe there even were tek tanks, most fighting was probably done via robots such as enforcers and meks and other similar things

[lyric tendon]

psst... Tek buggy exists

[gusty turret]

Yeah im sure they had transport but i just don't see a need for tanks when you already have armor thats made of a mega material that's as resilient as a tank

Surely the tek tribe would've constructed tanks if the design existed for them

It just seems likely that meks took the place of tanks due to the siege cannon attachments and everything

[lyric tendon]

possibly

[gusty turret]

Its all speculation until they give us the tek war rts game we want

[lyric tendon]

HELL YES

[gusty turret]

I just really don't wanna acknowledge the existence of the tek buggy because of how derpy it is

Its made out of the best material in the world but touch one inch of water and it's dead

[lyric tendon]

lol

[gusty turret]

tek raft

[lyric tendon]

I mean skiffs are technically, Tek Rafts

[rigid palm]

Tek canoe

[bronze turtle]

Tek Rat

[mellow apex]

does anyone know what happened in the gap between Extinction and Genesis 1 if you have a answer just @ me

[teal kelp]

It's up to the player to choose iirc

[sacred gate]

Is there a lore answer to the relationship between the nameless and reapers

[mellow apex]

the namless are by rockwell mutated humans and the reaper where created by the ark

as far as i know atleast

[lyric tendon]

it's not what WC think about making the nameless

it's one of those "they exist because why not" reasons

[sacred gate]

Hmmmmm interesting

[gusty turret]

That is not at all true, nameless have been there since the beginning, same with drakes and seekers, reapers were created later on by the og overseer to punish the tek tribe

Mei fought them before Rockwell even got to Abb

[ember solar]

nameless and reapers are similar because there are similarly changed by the element on aberration where it gave them extremely hard skin, nameless having so much element in their body is also why drakes babies like to eat the venom because they have also been altered by it

[subtle falcon]

The tek tribe was led by Diana and Santiago right

How could the nameless be created by Rockwell they were there before he mutated

[mellow apex]

they where not created by rockwell it seems i have been wrong

[ember solar]

Now that i think about it drinking nameless venom should probably do more than take away some hp and cure diseases if its so highly concentrated with element

[lyric tendon]

not really, if it is it should be purple, not green

[ember solar]

Hey i dont make the textures

[gusty turret]

I think its just extremely acidic-

[lyric tendon]

No, it's basically based on what real snake venom are

Takes lives but cures ailments

[ember solar]

Yeah but then why would drake babies like to eat it

[gusty turret]

Because good soup

[lyric tendon]

"because blame the overseer"

Then again there are animals that do injest toxic pray

There is one dubbed "the most poisonous bird" because it only eats poisonous beetles yet we can handle them like a normal bird

[ember solar]

Well usually animals that eat poisonous ones are super poisonous themselves

Although reapers do have acid blood and nameless are pretty similar to them

[bronze turtle]

wait so you're saying, Nameless aren't unrelenting Element infused humans?

[gusty turret]

That is exactly what im saying

[arctic bison]

dissapointing

[bronze turtle]

how were the Nameless there to begin if there was no Element?

I thought the reason there was Element was because nuke

[lyric tendon]

simple "overseer made the nameless"

[bronze turtle]

but they're Element humans

[tropic ice]

ark story 1 of 10

[tropic ice]

isn't Rockwell the overseer on abb?

[lyric tendon]

after Ab got their overseer nuked by the tek tribe

[tropic ice]

ah right also who tf flew the plane into abb and destroyed it and is that what killed the overseer?

[lyric tendon]

it's not confirmed plus Mei yin got to Ab first and encountered them herself before helena and rockwell came to AB

[lyric tendon]

?

[tropic ice]

didn't someone fly a plane to try and escape abb and thats what destroyed the ark

[lyric tendon]

what plane?

[tropic ice]

nvm then the person who told me that must of bean giving me a bunch of shit

what tf broke the ark then?

[lyric tendon]

the tek village (like Santiago, Diana, etc) thought they are in some space prison and decided to make a Nuke to blow up the overseer with a hope of THAT lets them escape from the ARK but the outcome wasn't expected for them

[tropic ice]

yeah didn't like destroy the dome and thats why its so hot on the surface? I was told some phyco flew a plane into it

[gusty turret]

That may be what Yongki did that killed Santiago on the ship? I don't remember quite how he committed, but yeah Abb was fucked by a tek nuke

[lyric tendon]

this is why you should always read the notes

[tropic ice]

yeah fair

[stray knoll]

When did WHYvrens start showing up in the time line again?

[ornate hull]

When the peepee poopoo tribe got got nae naed on the desert halo ring

[stray knoll]

Because I am pretty sure they are one of the things the overseers created for engaging in anti human warfare.

[heavy sandal]

maybe just reread the SE notes

[gusty turret]

Yeah that's probably better......

[round turret]

This may have already been discusssed prior or it might be in the actual lore somewhere but where did element come from? This is the central ark question imo bc element was what set everything in motion. Element corrupts things so is it itself alive/sentient? Are we going to see the place it originates from? Or maybe even an alien race was involved and sent it as a weapon?

[lyric tendon]

no one knows aside it came from space

initially people treat it as any other metal until the Tek War happened

the pollution from the Tek War caused the corruption

[heavy sandal]

maybe we could have seen where element came from if we could have just let Rockwell do his thing

[arctic bison]

he has a point

[lyric tendon]

in Ab, they should've even though Rockwell is into eugenics and not fit well with the Tek People

[ember solar]

I doubt they treated it as any other metal unless they didn't realize its potential yet

[wraith idol]

heres my biggest question: when and why were all the prehistoric creatures brought back from being extinct and why are they now the only creatures still around aside from the things humans/element/overseers created?

[lyric tendon]

because it's suitable for the "test"

according to Gen 1 glitch notes

[wraith idol]

then why is it still the case on earth in extinction? thats no test, thats literally the aftermath of the war and use of element

[lyric tendon]

the snow and desert biome, and the sunken forest are proto-ARKs...

[wraith idol]

wait are you saying everything on earth went extinct, THEN they recreated the prehistorical creatures for the arks?

[limber breach]

i am a nerdo

[lyric tendon]

everything except the ext exclusives

they are mutated/evolved

[gusty turret]

Why do you think that? He was looking for a habitable world just the same as us we would've ended up on the same planet-

[wraith idol]

we already see where it came from in gen2. its literally condensed in asteroids. some of those asteroids then landed on earth and then boom earth has element

[gusty turret]

Where it is currently and where it came from are two different stories

[wraith idol]

that is literally where it came from. its an atomic element. just like the rest of the elements on the periodic table. they got on those asteroids the same way all other elements appear on asteroids: through supernova explosions of dying stars. the genesis ship then pulls them in when it visits various star systems to try and find a suitable planet to inhabit, which indicates that element exists all throughout space

[rigid palm]

You realize that element could have come from literally anywhere, and then gotten onto the asteroids?

Just because its on the asteroids rn doesn’t mean it came from the asteroids

[lyric tendon]

but it doesn't mean Element has a "home planet" either

the goal of Gen is getting away from corruptive element as possible, it's counterintuitive if the ship is set straight to the source of element

[wraith idol]

elements and materials dont tend to appear on asteroids after said asteroids are created. they appear on the asteroids as they are being created. sure, the asteroids could have come from a destroyed/exploded planet or moon that could have been the origin of element, but this is highly unlikely since the genesis ship arrives at multiple star systems that has element. even if you dont want to consider the ship arriving at multiple star systems that have the same resource (aka arriving at an ambergris system and then another ambergris system a few days later) as cannon, theres more than 1 system with element (shard systems and dust systems)

[rigid palm]

Whos to say element was created naturally?

Also, its the same system, not different systems

You can tell by the constellations

[wraith idol]

i didnt say it was. doesnt have to have been created naturally for what i said to hold up. could have been created by some intelligent race on a planet that then later exploded. but like i said, that is unlikely

also IIRC, HLN-A says that the ship is searching for a suitable star system.

[rigid palm]

So if it was created on some planet, that means it wasnt created on asteroids

And sure the ship is searching for suitable star systems, that doesn’t mean its not going to the same few in a row

I’d say the constellation consistency is just to keep wc from designing tons of constellations, but the constellations match actual irl constellations

[lyric tendon]

TBF Earth was created from an asteroid slammed into a huge planetary object

[wraith idol]

also the constellations are most likely the result of the devs just not making multiple skybox assets (or a dynamic one) for the night sky

oh...you already said that before i finished typing lol

[gusty turret]

Or maybe the constellations are just to tell us where we are?

[wraith idol]

as for them matching irl constellations, WC could have just created their assets from irl images of the stars to same time

[stray knoll]

When the earth became void of life the goal was simple. Repopulate it with life. As much variety as possible. Its that simple.

What you should find suspicious is that certain animals behave differently around humans and tames than they do around other animals.

Example: Around anything else, t.rex will just be a regular murder hobo. If the t.rex sees a human or tame, it roars.

Dire wolves are just killertards around normal creatures such as rhinos and subaortic elephants. They only pack howl if they see a human or a tame.

[tender wasp]

Reason why there are no normal animals: Cause players prefer dinos and "Fantasy" creatures and would not like "boring" flora and Fauna we have today.

[stray knoll]

Yes the 4rth wall reason is always better than lore.

Wait never mind, additional ad ons just go through background objects.

[subtle falcon]

We do get normals animals thought we’re getting baboons 🔜

[tender wasp]

Which is a prehistoric baboon, not a modern one that lives now.

[subtle falcon]

It’s a prehistoric game the animals will be their prehistoric versions

The chimps are normal sized though

[tender wasp]

Also I only answered the question why there are no normal animals in Ark..

And there are no chimps in the game..

[subtle falcon]

The mesos

[tender wasp]

It is a Meso, no chimp

And the question was about modern time animals, cause of lore.

[subtle falcon]

So there’s big foots, baboons and little monkeys

[tender wasp]

And there are no modern time animals in the game.

[tender wasp]

NO modern TIME animals.

[subtle falcon]

I meant that’s what people call them

Everyone knows they were bigger when in the prehistoric age

[tender wasp]

And the question was about modern time animals.. not about size, etc.

[rigid palm]

Isn’t an otter technically a modern time animal?

But ye the monkeys in the game and being added to the game are not modern time animals

[tender wasp]

Otter might be the only exception, but there are also prehistoric otters

[lyric tendon]

umm snow owls, gatchas

[rigid palm]

Alr I wasnt sure if the otter in ark is a prehistoric one or a modern one

[subtle falcon]

Guys I’m was saying Bigfoot’s, baboons, and little monkeys are what people call them in game since they don’t want to say gigantopithecus, dinopithecus, and mesopithecus every time

[tender wasp]

Fantasy Animals

[teal kelp]

Those don't even exist

[lyric tendon]

in lore wise they are count as IRL animals... just mutated in a way

[tender wasp]

I was talking about something normal that exist today, like a normal lion, normal cow, etc

[subtle falcon]

Salmon

[tender wasp]

They are mustated not "normal" animals

[subtle falcon]

Dodos

[lyric tendon]

Coel tho does still alive

[tender wasp]

Dodos are prehistoric

[teal kelp]

Too big to be a normal salmon

[teal kelp]

Dodos went extinct pretty recently actually

In the 1800s

[tender wasp]

still extinct and not a modern animal that still exists

[lyric tendon]

Coelacanth

[teal kelp]

Yeah but they aren't prehistoric tho

[tender wasp]

Was supposed it ist extinct but isn't

[lyric tendon]

nope they are still live

[tender wasp]

I was talking about fucking modern shit that still exist like a fucking lion

if you want to nitpick on one shitty animal in the game

[subtle falcon]

Beavers

[tender wasp]

But ark has no lions, zebras, gnus, girrafes, cows, etc.

[tender wasp]

the giant beavers are prehistoric

[lyric tendon]

castroides are extinct

[subtle falcon]

Ark beavers are only slightly bigger than modern beavers

[tender wasp]

still not modern beavers

[teal kelp]

But they are prehistoric beavers tho

[rigid palm]

Calling “casteroides” “beavers” does not, in fact, change the species of the animal. It is still a casteroid

[teal kelp]

Go on, say casteroid without ca

[subtle falcon]

Steroid

[teal kelp]

Great

[subtle falcon]

That’s my point the prehistoric names are just what the bigger versions are called

Ark has t bigger versions of modern animals

[rigid palm]

No, it has prehistoric versions of modern animals

[teal kelp]

Not really

[rigid palm]

There is a large difference

[teal kelp]

It has bigger versions of prehistoric animals

Or smaller

[tender wasp]

then you actually have no clue of prehistoric animals and you should probably start to make some better researches..

[teal kelp]

Ark Thyla is thylacoleo on casteroids without ca

[subtle falcon]

My point is shouldn’t ark having prehistoric version of modern animals equal to some measure

[lyric tendon]

well that's the lore and in reality, it's just WC banking on JP fans

[tender wasp]

It was a damn question about lore.. and I only said, that people don't want the simpley nowadays version of the shit in Ark and therefore we only have the fantasy, mutated or prehistoric shit in ark

[subtle falcon]

Is the whole reason for this discussion that you want non prehistoric version of modern animals

[tender wasp]

cause for lore it makes no sense not having livestock, etc.

[stray knoll]

Otters

[tender wasp]

I don't fucking care.. I never said I want modern animals in Ark

[subtle falcon]

I’m just gonna stop cause I keep saying the wrong things

[teal kelp]

Me explaining why deinonychus is a modern animal

[tender wasp]

Nowadays animals..

[teal kelp]

Animals of the day that is today if you want

[tender wasp]

The otter is a exeption.

[shut bloom]

c'mon, lets do more lore

[gusty turret]

I can't believe Helena is a necromancer

[hasty creek]

Shadowmanes are everywhere irl

I see them on my sunday morning walks

[gusty turret]

Rockwell is too

I see crack addicts everywhere on my Sunday morning walks

[hasty creek]

Man same

Those summoners tho

Just cant get rid of them

[gusty turret]

Vin Diesel may be in Ark 2, but is he in Fortnite like the Rock?

[heavy sandal]

there are rocks in ark too

[lyric tendon]

floating rocks

[gusty turret]

Fuck Ark this is a fortnite server now

[heady pine]

ovis too?

[lyric tendon]

ovis as well, yep

Ovis, Otter, and Coelacanth

[gusty turret]

Y'all never watch that documentary called Jurassic Park? Dinosaurs aren't extinct anymore🙄 ✋

[warm talon]

what about the fish

[lyric tendon]

Sabertooth salmon is extinct and megapiranha is also extinct

Coel is the only fish exist up to the modern day

[warm talon]

[lyric tendon]

suprisingly leech and lamprays are also modern day

[warm talon]

is there any insects

[lyric tendon]

none

[warm talon]

😡

what about the angler

[lyric tendon]

except from beetles

anglers are also modern

same with jellyfish

so 12 creatures in ARK that are not extinct (before the Tek War) 3 that do survived at the aftermath of the corruption (Snow Owl, Gasbag (Tardigrade), and Gacha (Sloth))

most of them are probably modified to either aid or challenge the human clones, Us

[subtle falcon]

Why was the island overseer corrupted, are the other overseers corrupted

Why did they aberration overseer try to punish the tek tribe

Does the overseer actively try to punish the survivors

[mental basin]

It's not corrupted?

[bronze turtle]

corrupted? how you figure

[gusty turret]

Im assuming you mean its corrupted because it doesn't try to stop us until we challenge it????

In short yes the overseers actively punish groups of people who advance too much

And its kinda up to their discretion as to how much is too much

But theres obviously a back up system for it or something because the obelisks on Abb were going to zap the tek tribe even after the overseer was nuked

Also the overseer tried to punish the tek tribe because they were far too advanced, and what better to throw a wrench in things than poison shooting mega tanks that can burrow and jump

It is a good question as to why the overseer on the island didn't attempt to throw any wrenches into our plans tho

It obviously knew something more than is flat out given to us, maybe Helena was able to get through to it and tell it to let us be, the audio file on the wiki in which you can kinds hear "the chosen, it trespasses" implies it knows we're special so?

[bronze turtle]

i'd assume the island overseer acts the way as intended while other ones are being a little aggressive

[gusty turret]

Well the island overseer created gigas to punish the new legion so it obviously followed its mission at some point?

[bronze turtle]

I think the lore surrounding the overseer beings would be awesome to be expanded on

[gusty turret]

that's not happening

[bronze turtle]

sadly

[plain plover]

maybe in the animated series, and likely if the movies actually happen

though I don't imagine a movie starring Vin Diesel would well explore the Boethian Philosophy aspect of the lore

[gusty turret]

and what is that???

[heavy sandal]

prince of sedition and deceit

[bold dove]

-They weren't corrupted.
-Cause that wasn't the overseer doing that. It was the ARK literally tearing itself apart due to the fact that they 'killed' the overseer. (unless you mean early on before Aberration became the hellscape it is.)
-Cause a overseers job is to monitor a ARK it's stationed on, and to push life to it's most extreme. The ARK's require you to be always stressed to get results.
So, when a city on Scorched became 'too' good at surviving, and was known as the safehaven of Scorched. The overseer created mantises to go after them as a warning.
They didn't get the warning. So the overseer decided "fuck it" and just destroy their whole city with wyverns, sandstorms, and making the ARK swallow the city.

[subtle falcon]

At the tek cave don’t you fight a corrupted overseer

[teal kelp]

Overseers fight you to see if you are worthy of ascending not because they are corrupted

Closest thing we got to a corrupted overseer would be aberration rockwell but that's not really a corrupted overseer at all

Also you don't fight the overseer in the tek cave you get teleported above the ark before fighting the overseer

[wary ruin]

So why is Rockwell the final boss on aberration? Never really understood it

[lyric tendon]

he's the replacement for the overseer that the Tek People nuked

[wary ruin]

By nuked you mean murdered or

[heavy sandal]

literal nuke

[lyric tendon]

tactically nuked

[wary ruin]

A.

So Rockwell then consumed element or whatever

[heavy sandal]

well first he injected it into a bulbdog, but the tek tribe didnt like that so he decided to shoot it up himself instead

[wary ruin]

Why the bulbdog :(

[tender wasp]

It was even more cruel.. he injected it into a shinehorn

[heavy sandal]

easy to get I guess. he used to abuse little monkies on the island

[wary ruin]

[heavy sandal]

ah yeah Rockwell 22 on ab. the picture he drew does look like a shinehorn dragon monster. I would tame it

[teal kelp]

The ottershinehorn decided his fate, and that was to die in deep space

[subtle falcon]

You guys know about the ure and the federation right, how the ure created the ark and the federation created the genesis ship

You guys know about the ure and the federation right, how the ure created the ark and the federation created the genesis ship

[lyric tendon]

You guys know about the ure and the federation right, how the ure created the ark and the federation created the genesis ship

[tender wasp]

No cause we totaly did not play Gen2 and totaly did not read the lore.. sarcasm and we are are lore-nerdz cause we have no idea about lore..

[mental basin]

No.

It's just a normal Overseer.

[gusty turret]

You guys know about the ure and the federation right, how the ure created the ark and the federation created the genesis ship

[stray knoll]

Thank you oh mighty over seer for creating the mantis. With it getting chitin and polymer has become easy and I can sit back relax and enjoy my high tec weapons.

[rigid palm]

All the punishments the overseers gave out kinda back fired on them

We raise wyverns, birth reapers, kill/tame mantis, tame gigas etc

[lyric tendon]

Thanks Helena

[bold dove]

Fuck Helena.

[ornate hull]

Wait were gigas a punishment from the overseer?

[plain plover]

nope

that was a theory

[subtle falcon]

The only time overseers punished survivors was on scorched earth with wyverns and aberration with reapers

[bold dove]

Not even reapers really. Since the overseer was dead by that time.

[ember solar]

it does make more sense to make the punishments untamable because then that will make the strongest players even stronger but in terms of gameplay making them tamable is probably the right move

[bold dove]

Not saying they're "not" a punishment. I'm saying that it's hard for the 'overseer' to punish the survivors when they're dead at this point.

[ember solar]

Yeah i guess the have some sort of super backup ai to keep tem functioning at the bare minimum

[rigid palm]

“The system”

[gusty turret]

The survivors aren't dead, we are the survivors, the one who tries again applies to all of us, there's not just one of us

[ember solar]

unless you have never respawned

[stray knoll]

Maybe it wasn't intended as a punishment, but something the humans proved worthy of that at first were also a huge challenge to adapt to.

[rigid palm]

No, mantis were definitely intended as a punishment

[stray knoll]

Ridicules. Without mantises it takes too long to get enough polymer .

[bold dove]

No, it's confirmed that they're a punishment.

[gusty turret]

Yeah i believe in Helena's' notes it mentions a horde of mantis going to attack the town she was in before Grandma showed up on wyverns

That's a punishment if I've ever heard of one

[bold dove]

And just like any thing else in the lore. Mantises are hella downgraded from what they are in-lore vs in-gameplay.

[stray knoll]

How can they attack a town? They can't fly, and they can't climb, so they can't get inside the walls.

[bold dove]

Mantises are just good harvesters in-game. But in-canon, they're smart, cunning, and can actually make militaristic strategies.
But nope. They only hit rocks in-game.

[bold dove]

They can hold tools.

[gusty turret]

Do you realize how powerful a giant mantis would be?

[bold dove]

Including swords and pikes.

[gusty turret]

That thing would crush your skull like it was an egg

[stray knoll]

Ah so pickaxemises can strike the foundation then.

[bold dove]

You keep taking gameplay mechanics into lore.
You know how powerful a mantis is in the animal kingdom?

[gusty turret]

you haven't experienced Ark if you've never been chased by a Mantis wielding clubs, then you know fear

[stray knoll]

In the animal kingdom they are powerful yes, but I don't see how they can be considered intelligent if they can't get past trees.

[gusty turret]

That is in game

[bold dove]

Genetic modifications can do wonders.

[stray knoll]

In real world mechanics a human can parry with a sword spear or axe, so they could actually do something about those claws even without a shield.

[bold dove]

And again, like dava said. You're taking game mechanics and poor a.i coding into consideration when it's not the case in-canon.

[gusty turret]

The mantis would likely break your arm if you tried to block it

They used guns in lore and still were getting overrun

[stray knoll]

Uh, what? How? If a sword is being struck that is... wh... whatever.

[gusty turret]

It would be like sticking your hand out of a car moving 100 mph and hitting a tree with it

[stray knoll]

Yes, you know why? Because the tree is striking your arm.

[gusty turret]

A very stoppable force meets an immovable object

[bold dove]

Also, their exoskeletons are one of the most powerful in the animal kingdom irl.
Imagine them being 6 feet tall.
They'd be basically 'nearly' bullet proof.
Not 100% bullet proof, but enough to soak a shit load of rounds before falling. And that's just for a single one.

[gusty turret]

But in this case it would be the person trying to block it's bone meeting fucking god

[stray knoll]

That I suppose makes sense if they have a club. even against another human trying to stop a club with a sword is a bad idea. One is thicker. Those claws are not tree trunks.

[bold dove]

No, but their claws can snap your hand in half like a twig, since that's their purpose. And what they do irl to shit like spiders and beetles.

[stray knoll]

As a small creature they are strong yes. Because at that size they don't have to use that additional strength to carry their body as much. But when you make them bigger, they have to use more of their strength to support their own weight. At that size I can see them maybe being as strong as a gigantapifigus, but I don't think they are just going to be dragging off a metal raft.

[stray knoll]

Yes, makes perfect sense. You block with a sword, so, your hand is struck because it hit the sword...

[bold dove]

This is also the world that has biologically modified creatures to make wyverns.
Hell, there's a alien fucking virus that's also a metal that's also sentient that defies all known laws of the universe that we know.
Logic doesn't make sense, cause that's the point.

So in all honesty. I wouldn't be surprised if a mantis could carry a metal raft.

[stray knoll]

For something that ignores the square cube law I can see a sword not being enough. For that you would need a shield. In that case I can no longer laugh at situations I would have dominated if game mechanics did not applied because I could parry.

[bold dove]

Okay, you can parry, sure.
But the issue comes down that they're a 'pack' base animal in the lore.

[stray knoll]

Aren't humans also pack hunters?

[bold dove]

Meaning there's always multiple.
Or in the cases in the lore. Around 20 at once.

[stray knoll]

What would they do to an actual phalanx?

[bold dove]

Yes, but that doesn't matter when another pack based animal is physically stronger, and mentally onpar to a human.

Die from it most likely.
But then the overseer would either make them even more smarter to counter them, or do what they did in-lore and just send wyverns after them.
John also did state that the mantises did have a formation when attacking Nosti. But 'what' formation it was is unknown.

[stray knoll]

If game mechanics did not apply you could hold a shield in 1 hand and a pike in the other. They would come closer, and then die.

[bold dove]

Sure, you could use the phalanx stance. But what would be better.
The phalanx stance, or a firing squad stance?

[latent fractal]

" Something damaged a water pipe outside of town yesterday, and when a crew went to repair it, they were attacked by a whole mess of mantises. My boys and I drove them off, but we were too late to save the engineers."

"I know it sounds crazy, but I think those mantises cut through that pipe on purpose to draw us out. If I'm right, then I'm more concerned about them than anything."

" I expected those mantises to come back, but not like this. They came at the village from two sides at the same time, and the way they moved... they were more coordinated than any wolf pack. They worked together like men would."

As you can read here mantis in lore were highly coordinated and smart, sometimes you got to forget about certain game mechanics when discussing lore and how good a creature is in game.

[bold dove]

Thank you.

[stray knoll]

Have a pistol in 1 hand and just switch to pikes if they come into close quarters. If game mechanics do not apply they can't just run through your spear because the hit box of the pike head is 2 and a half feet in front of you.

Behind the shields longneck rifles with bayonets.

[subtle falcon]

When that tribe on scorched earth got too powerful the overseer sent mantis’s and later wyverns to destroy them

[stray knoll]

Btw gtg I am behind schedule on something. Just leave a book mark if you want to continue later. Maby they could actually applie these tactics in Ark-2.

[latent fractal]

Yeah the mantis were a punishment against the people of Nosti, the overseers didn't want people to become too powerful so it would create punishments for them if they did.

[stray knoll]

Also to be fair if game mechanics did not apply they would be one of the things that are smart enough to know to attack the rider not the mount. Only reason I can kill them so easily. 🤷‍♂️

[latent fractal]

You got to remember as well that your not as strong as your crazy high lvl ark character would be rather something similar to yourself. Those things on the other hand are really strong and would most likely break through those shields without any issue. Only reason they were able to defeat the mantis was by blowing up the cave they lived in.

[stray knoll]

I have no idea how strong humans are.

Anyway I'm back. So, here are a few points you should also consider in favor of the mantis.
1: The reason they cannot fly or climb is the square cube law. Their wings are too small for their weight and their suction tipped legs too small for their body. But with magic involved maybe that should be an update.

2: There is no point in striking a sword when a human is trying to block with one because all they have to do is grab the sword, and then pull. Because they are stronger the human is now off balance, so they can then strike with the other claw.

[gusty turret]

A human would have to be dumb to be using a sword anyways

In the lore they very much used longnecks

[stray knoll]

Swords are only good up close. Which ark creatures tend to get often. Guns are effective because they have range. But range only lasts until they are close. Then I suppose a bayonet might still work or bash them with the butt of the gun.

However, close quarters is unneeded if you are defending a city, because then the closest quarters you will face when fighting a mantis is below the machicolations. I really can't see them getting further than that. Like, ever.

In which case better yet, why stop with a longneck rifle? Why not use a Wall Gun?

Mantis shell would get penetrated by a Wall Gun like butter. After which it would bleed to death.

[gusty turret]

Idk why they wouldn't just use flame arrows

Nothing likes fire

[stray knoll]

True, bugs are oddly flammable. Likely due to the oil in chitin.

In game mechanics the human combat is so shitty that you would have to be dumb to fight with a sword anyway. Human weapons are either for last result when dismounted or dealing with things your mount can't.

But with game mechanics in the trash can being mounted is still better. So without walls your best weapon would be a brace of pistols as you get closer, then switch to a lance. Even with a human arm able to reach at a more than small t.rex type of reach a sword still is not best for reaching downward, so up close you would want either a lance or a twice length longneck rifle with a bayonet.

After all without game mechanics you could improve the hell out of gear. For example, you can wear armor much thicker if you are going to be riding mounted. You would only need light enough armor to move slightly faster than a walk in the off chance you are dismounted with the goal being to get back on, since the weight of your armor would be carried by the mount.
Meanwhile without game mechanics your mount has something called a brain, and while animal brains are pathetic in real life they are STILL smart enough to be trained.
"My rider fell, according to my training I need to help him get back on."

Also its difficult to use the lance in game, but without those mechanics your mount does not need you to steer and use the lance on 1 controller. The mount can control its self at your command. Its not a car.
Also without game mechanics the lance would just enter 1 end of the mantis and go out the other.

Most arthropods when fully run through will bleed to death.
Except cockroaches for some reason.

[red mist]

"like dava said"
-an unknown figure who has done what with the real spartan

[gusty turret]

Yeah im quoting that

[stray knoll]

So mantises are smart enough to use weapons. Are they smart enough to actually make them?
Game mechanics are in the trash at the moment but its still tempting to make a joke about them getting pikes and pickaxes by killing saberteeth.

Never need to craft a pickaxe in this game if you know what to kill.

Of course even if that were canon you won't need to do that. There wouldn't be an engram limit nerf in an actual human brain.

Well, at least I hope not.

How does a human brain work? I get traumatized when I try to find out.

[gusty turret]

Mine doesn't

[mental basin]

Wrong chat, dude.

[red mist]

isn't the plural of sabertooth just sabertooth? because sabertooth is short for sabertooth tiger, so it can't be saberteeth

[gusty turret]

I like saberteeth

All in favor of it being saberteeth say aye

[mental basin]

It's Sabertooths.

[gusty turret]

saberteeth

[shut bloom]

Aye

[stray knoll]

Sabertinkles.

[gusty turret]

Hehe tinkle

[stray knoll]

Also, about that, I was meaning to ask. Is there a chat for discussing combat mechanics VS canon possibility combat?

[pseudo frost]

poop

[stray knoll]

Not funny.

[pseudo frost]

rlly?

[stray knoll]

Sadly no. Not enough effort and charm.

[pseudo frost]

damn

lol

[gusty turret]

with effort and charm poop

[stray knoll]

Try to pump up that charisma to about 3. I know of a video that can help you out with some ideas that there is no point in me mentioning since I can't post.

[shut bloom]

POOP

in lore, otters are the best tame

prove me wrong

[gusty turret]

In lore gigas are the worst tame

Change my mind

[shut bloom]

[gusty turret]

He literally kicked a pebble and got mad

Thank god they arent that way in game

[shut bloom]

they arent?

xD, back when they still enraged via fall damage..

[gusty turret]

Wouldn't you be angry if you fell off a cliff and broke your legs

Kicking a pebble is a different story

[rigid palm]

Not a specific one, this chat is fine. The person was referring to a message that got deleted because it wasnt belonging here

[stray knoll]

Ah, I didn't see it.

[gusty turret]

I figured he was talking about me saying my brain doesn't work

[potent dome]

Do u know when the gigas take over ragnarok in the secret cutscene when u beat the second boss i never understood that lol

[heavy sandal]

it's an allegory forthe second cumming of chirst

[teal kelp]

What cutscene

[gusty turret]

The one when you beat the second boss

[teal kelp]

Name of the boss?

[gusty turret]

Yeah

[ornate hull]

I told a bad joke the king had a stroke and now I hang from ye old rafters

[gusty turret]

goofy noise ThAtS wHaT sHe SaId

[mental basin]

Ha-hyuck

Gawrsh

[gusty turret]

You need to watch Matt's aberration playthrough if you haven't already

[ornate hull]

I tried but I can't recreate the noise

[mental basin]

What one

[ornate hull]

It sounded like that because the compression on YouTube fucked up and they patched it

[tame grail]

homo s are ugly

[teal kelp]

I know, homo sapiens caused climate change so yeh, we are all atleast lowkey ugly, some are extremely ugly tho

[heavy sandal]

ur moms not ugly

[teal kelp]

1 trillion lions can win against the sun ez, just attack during the night

[gusty turret]

Thanks

[grave lagoon]

I know its a good strategy, but where is the sun?

[ornate hull]

Japan Aug 6th 1945

That's were the sun is

[gusty turret]

Also August 9th of 1945 a short distance away

here comes the sun doodoodoodoo

[ember solar]

Lore rockwell is probably op enough to eat the sun or something

[gusty turret]

He was still beat by a little deformed person with inbred dinosaurs

[hidden knot]

What?

[gusty turret]

What?

[hidden knot]

Deformed person with little dinosaurs

[lyric tendon]

Players, he is talking about players

[bronze turtle]

I've seen that video

[gusty turret]

Who wins a trillion lions or all the pokemon

[teal kelp]

Jokes aside, pokemons, dialga and palkia can bend time and space and arceus is literally a god so ez

[gusty turret]

Im on th side of Pokemon but i know a lot of people think lions

[teal kelp]

Lmao

[gusty turret]

I think usually theres a restriction on how may pokemon tho? Like only first gen or something?

[bold dove]

Hear me out.
ARK Gofafw.
It's like Pokemon Go. But with ARK based creatures instead.

[gusty turret]

I would 100% play an Ark AR game

[bold dove]

Would unironically be good, if done right.

[gusty turret]

which it probably wouldn't be

[bold dove]

Realistically, probably not. Unless it was underneath Wildcards supervision the whole time.
Cause realistically, it'd be made by some phone gaming company.

[gusty turret]

And it could have little base building and dungeons like Minecraft Earth

D i n o f i g h t s

I think a pixark version would honestly be more fun than a regular Ark version

[fast jolt]

@dense ice hi

[dense ice]

Can I help you?

[fast jolt]

do you have a idea when you post genisis 2 video

we talked the other day and you told me

[dense ice]

Genesis 2?

Is that related to lore- or are you referring to something else?

[fast jolt]

something else

sorry this chat was less crouded

[bold dove]

[fast jolt]

@dense ice are you there

[dense ice]

Yep

No ETA on that 🙂

[fast jolt]

ok thanks

bye

[ornate hull]

Bro just hit up neddy

[gusty turret]

Twice in like 5 minutes

Itd be funny if he did it again because Neddy didn't say bye back

[ember solar]

I mean if you are a moderator you are signing up to be pinged at any time about ark related stuff, if you can’t take the occasional ping for random questions then idk if you should be mod unless you had a reason to be mad about a small noise and a red circle with a number in it, i dont make the rules though so thats just my opinion

[hasty creek]

Agreed

[onyx sky]

Omg quit texting me I’m too busy

[rigid grove]

This isn't really lore nerdz related, but ill just add my thoughts rq and we can move on. Personally, im fine with being pinged, as long as users understand (if I have to tell them this im fine too) that im just a discord volunteer, so if I cant help them im sorry.

[lapis ice]

hello do you know the twitter of doug Kennedy? i need it

the CEO

[rigid grove]

No, I do not. Please don't ask the same question in multiple channels.

[gusty turret]

Lore chat is dead

Just like Nerva😌

[teal kelp]

Humongous Cat

[plain plover]

We are starved

It has been 5 months since any information on Ark 2 has come out

[bronze turtle]

who is Nerva and why is he charred human remains

[plain plover]

He tried to out pizza the hut and as punishment he was forced into the oven

[bronze turtle]

your sentence is the pizza oven

[tender wasp]

Man and I thought he is the new special offer at Mc Donalds... crispy McNerva

[mental basin]

The Gaius Marcellus Nerva Meal.

[lament ore]

My channel ol

Question for nerds: Are you Team ARK or Team Genesis project?

[lyric tendon]

Team Element

[tender wasp]

Team Genesis does not exist

[gusty turret]

The Genesis project was a direct result of the UREs work on the Arks, nothing on the ship would've worked without the URE's engramatic matrix tech, although the Arks were completely unable to return home on their own without the ground threats being eliminated which would've been impossible to under normal circumstances, and the ship was able to finish its goal autonomously, so logically the ship is the best hope for humanity, but the Arks didn't just abandon Humanities birth place?

It's a hard choice

[mental basin]

I dunno man. Probably team ARK, because the story was fire. I might've said Team Genesis but Genesis: Part 1 was pretty trash.

G2 was good though.

[lyric tendon]

gen 2 is a mess of a story, Gen 1 makes sense at least

[gusty turret]

Gen 2 was a good concept but poorly executed

I like gen 1 there's nothing i would changed about it besides maybe more minibosses in place of the shutdown master ais?

[lyric tendon]

Gen 1 adds more information and answered some questions about the ARKs

Gen 2 is just Vin Diesel power fantasy

Gameplay wise Gen 2 is paid easy mode

[mental basin]

Agree to disagree.

[lament ore]

Lol you didn't get the question

Hint: there were two ideas on how to save humanity in Ark's lore

[heavy sandal]

URE ascension chads vs Fed Cowards

[mental basin]

Probably the Genesis Ship.

Team Genesis.

[novel bone]

i dont know if i sould ask hear but in the exction ending helana said sun's as in multible how many suns are thare?

[ember solar]

So saying the sun rising would be better?

If it was multiple it would probably be the suns ARE rising

[rigid palm]

sun*'s*
as in, sun is rising

[novel bone]

ah ok

[stray knoll]

He smells you when your sleeping

he knows when your awake

He knows when you are building your base below the graft on a PVP server

So lets talk about Raptor Claws for goodness sake.

Oh you better watch out, you better not pout, you better not die I'm telling you why

Raptor claws will fly by tossing presents, most of which will land, iiiin the most dangerous bioms

And wish you luck

Trying to survive getting them before they despawn!

[ornate hull]

Beo

[supple vortex]

Ok

[lyric tendon]

wew

[arctic bison]

ok

[bronze turtle]

so in lore kids existed

did the babies get born with implants

[plain plover]

Most likely, yes. it will likely get explained in ARK 2

[bronze turtle]

Ok I'm kinda confused, how come there are dinos on extinction if extinction is earth? Is there somthing I'm missing?

[bronze turtle]

Yes

Since implants are dna I'm pretty sure

And both parents have implants

[bronze turtle]

And why is it never night time on extiction

ik the second one

Ok

nvm

i mean the moon is broken if that helps

Lmao how tf?

Did we blow up the moon like in cod zombies? 🤣

idfk

planet could be tidally locked

Or it stopped rotating taht was my theory

[heavy sandal]

it starts rotating again once the arks come down

[bronze turtle]

oh

[bronze turtle]

Ah ok

so its tidally locked and when the arks come down and begin purifying the sun rises as shown in the ascension

Oh ok

But why are there dinos

They explained why they were on the arks and genesis ship

because gameplay

Like they explained why like the gacha and enforcers and snow owls were on there

[bronze turtle]

Good enough lol

[fallow sapphire]

The dinos came from the proto arks around the map, which were the original plans for the arks till they realized stuff could get in and out of them

[bronze turtle]

Oh ok

And they got corrupted from there

[fallow sapphire]

Yep

[gusty turret]

The Earth's rotation was broken by the huge chunks of it that were taken for the Genesis and Ark projects, mixed with the seismic activity that would be caused by moon chunk impact i think that's enough to just break it's orbit and rotation

[plain plover]

I think the broken rotation was from element BS where it like cooled the planets core for no reason

[gusty turret]

Does core temperature affect gravity?

Or magnetic fields?

Idk what field of science that is to even begin to look in to

[bronze turtle]

Yes

[bronze turtle]

It's called earth science

[bronze turtle]

Yes, that's how the earth works

If we activate the core we can terraform Mars too

[gusty turret]

I don't remember ever learning about temperature doing that