lore-nerdz

[rough dagger]

Just Rockwell

thats it.

[fallow sapphire]

I mean there is a bit more then that…

[urban stone]

I wonder how many arks were built, as in numbers.

[fallow sapphire]

100s, maybe thousands. In the extinction ending you see a fraction of the total amount, and there are so many

[urban stone]

Yeah, and the island ascension scene actually kinda shows you the scale of things, like just how many there really are (kinda)

[fallow sapphire]

Honestly all the ascensions do, island shows you some, aberration shows you the true scale from up top, and extinction shows even more arks

[astral cedar]

what the hell

[ornate hull]

Over 100

[radiant prism]

“That’s a pretty large bulge you have, survivor”

[lyric tendon]

yee biatch, scan my baby reaper

[radiant prism]

“Survivor, my circuits are malfunctioning, could you take a look?”

[merry cipher]

[bold dove]

"OwO. Survivor-chan. Is that a shat ton of hexagons in your pocket. Or are you happy to see me"

Kill me.....

[fallow sapphire]

And this is when i wish i hadnt beat gen 2 yet

[lyric tendon]

#CursedLoreGang

"oh, would you look at that"

"it's bigger than i thought"

[radiant prism]

"Hey survivor, i think I've been hacked, could you check something in the back for me"

[ornate hull]

"Engaging fleshlight mode survivor, hope your ready"

[vital hollow]

wth see a therapist...

[ornate hull]

Have you not been reading up mate

[vital hollow]

no i havnt most things are labeled as spoilers so im to lazy to click on them to see the msgs lol

[ornate hull]

Its cursed lore

That's what we do here

[vital hollow]

hot

[fallow sapphire]

no, thats what a few do here

[vital hollow]

lol

[fallow sapphire]

i have not nor will i dabble in it

[ornate hull]

Your afraid

[lyric tendon]

she know

[radiant prism]

Alpha difficult 😳

[fallow sapphire]

fear is for weaklings

[opal gorge]

Fix the genesis 2 75, 40 alpha cave/tree spot bruh half of it isn’t buildable and half of it is like how could y’all miss it???? Fixing missions over it ???

[ornate hull]

Yes because that's how helena turned into a homo deus

By fixing the alpha tree spot

[lyric tendon]

yes... the "tree spot"

[radiant prism]

Headcanon: HLNA is thirsty

She wants that Tek sword

[fallow sapphire]

ayo just re-did the master controller again and i see they finally replaced the old flesh suit with the new fed tek suit

[tired osprey]

Case #11788 @bronze turtle has been muted for 1 hour.
Reason: Posting an unauthorised Discord invite link

[lyric tendon]

i miss the fleshy fed suit, it's basically showing what's going on in gen 2 before the trailer is even made

[fallow sapphire]

Idk, the fed suit makes it much better imo

[last warren]

can i join smo tribe?

[lyric tendon]

Wrong chat

[last warren]

which chat?

[lyric tendon]

Go to #735196255483068497

[last warren]

thx

[timid ridge]

I wonder how realistic the Arks are. Could they be made in real life?🤔

[small sun]

yea

[timid ridge]

In case i feel like infecting the planet with a extremely malevolent resource which mutates and becomes sentient and kills all life on Earth

oh ok

[small sun]

imagine we are all on an ark, and one day an obelisk decided to just come out of the sky

[timid ridge]

:0

Would.... the flat earthers be right?

[small sun]

what if was a spherical ark

spherical

[timid ridge]

:0

so what about the voyagers?

As far as we know they hurtling through space and havent crashed into a random barrier yet

[small sun]

yea

rip

what if the asteroid that hit us was actually an ark, specifically the island ark because of where the asteroid hit was in Mexico

[timid ridge]

:0

[bold dove]

[timid ridge]

hold up, i need to go get my tinfoil hat

[small sun]

agreed

[timid ridge]

So, if it was indeed an ark, then shouldnt the obelisks still be there? What if the government is hiding it from us

[fallow sapphire]

if it was an ark we would be dead rn

the overseers would be annoyed we arent progressing

[timid ridge]

I've got to to mexico and take a look for myself and on the way gather a rag tag group of friends and go on an amazing adventure where we discover secrets about the world and ourselves

[small sun]

great

[timid ridge]

Well the overseers have never outright just murdered everyone on the Ark

they made stuff to lower the population

[small sun]

yea, he is just a stalker

[timid ridge]

like the wyverns and mantis

[fallow sapphire]

they legit sunk nosti because of it

sure it wasnt everyone but it was a lot of them

[timid ridge]

Butttttttttttt, nosti wasnt the whole population of the ark

yeah

[small sun]

lol

take a look at this image, what do u see

nvm

cant show images in the lore channel

[timid ridge]

yeah i tried putting 2 gifs alr ;-;

[small sun]

f

[timid ridge]

I hope Ark comes out with something so we can see what the other master ai was

[small sun]

yea

[timid ridge]

moeder and her fat eel body is cool and all, but the other 3 tho

[fallow sapphire]

other 4*

[timid ridge]

oh yeah 4

[small sun]

wait, brb

[timid ridge]

forgot abt lunar

[timid ridge]

k

[fallow sapphire]

would be cool but very unlikely, especially as it wont be in lore

[timid ridge]

yeah...

hol up

i always wondered something

[small sun]

just saying, i gotta walk me doggos

[timid ridge]

how did a literal planet worth of people with advanced tek and the power to literally manufacture life lose to the king titan, while some random survivor with his army of gigas killed it :I

:) doggos

[small sun]

i dont need sleep, i need answers

[timid ridge]

rightttttttt

[small sun]

ok guys, brb

[fallow sapphire]

cause technically speaking we also had the mega mek, to the story the mega mek wasnt required for the hardest version of him

plus i dont think there plan was to kill the stuff straight up anyway

oh and the fact that even in the explorer notes the titans are much stronger then we experience

[timid ridge]

yeah..... and apparently there was hundreds, thousands maybe

but still, its just so hard to believe

[bold dove]

Mostly cause Santiago killed most of the toughest, and weakest ones. Before he died.
Leaving only the 4 titans left. (Atleast on that side of the planet)

[fallow sapphire]

also true

[timid ridge]

he did? coool

santiago really is trying his hand at being the main character lol

[bold dove]

Santiago isn't a physical fighter. But since he invented the meks, he probably made it easier to fight on his part. So he probably kicked ass.

[timid ridge]

"not a physical fighter" also him in ark 2 trailer

[bold dove]

Boi died 3 times and can't stay dead.
That's protagonist vibes.

[timid ridge]

fr

[bold dove]

That's not really Santiago.

[timid ridge]

It not?

3 times? i thought he died once

[bold dove]

There's 4 Santiago's. Each (mostly) having their own memories.
There's the Tek-war Santiago which died. Then there's the Genesis 2 note Santiago, which, again. Died.
Then there's the Aberration-Extinction Santiago, which sacrificed himself. Then there's Viniago. Aka Vin Diesal, Santiago.

[timid ridge]

ah okay, but which was the first? as im sure none of them were the original who prolly lived on Earth sometime ago before the element devastation

[bold dove]

The Tek-War Santiago.

He died in battle. While the URE and Fed's where still at war with eachother.

[timid ridge]

ah okay

Sooooo great and powerful lore master, what the hell happened to helena

[bold dove]

What'd you mean by that?

[timid ridge]

i havent read most of the notes from the gen and gen 2, so what happened to her after we left her on Earth when the arks came back

I heard that the homo deus slowly lose their mind? and like dissappear/die?

[teal kelp]

She became homodeus and gave us hlna

[timid ridge]

ik that

[bold dove]

She became a Homo-Deus. Which are so damn powerful that our universe can't hold them for long. So they get 'yeeted' into the void, and create their own pocket-dimensions.

[teal kelp]

Homodeus is literally spectator mode

[bold dove]

Last thing she did was the creation of HLN-A. Which have fragments of her pre-Homo-Dues personality.

[timid ridge]

Soooooooooooooooooooo, couldnt she have like deleted the element infestation or the titans

[bold dove]

Not how that works, pal

[teal kelp]

Now I have to know why Helena turned into an Homodeus

[timid ridge]

but shes op ;-;

[bold dove]

Can't delete something if you're not even in the same reality.

[bold dove]

Even gods have their limits.

[timid ridge]

But she was in our reality, we saw her in extinction

[teal kelp]

She was so over 9000 that she went spectator mode so no she couldn't

[timid ridge]

also arent the overseers controlled by home deus

[bold dove]

For a 'split' second. Then she vanished.

[timid ridge]

oh

So she came from her pocket dimension to say "dang you kinda goated, thanks for saving Earth :D" and left

[teal kelp]

Last thing she did was give us hlna and yeet us in the simulation

[bold dove]

Correct. And their physical forms are no longer a thing anymore. Just leaving them as a ball of energy.
Also, the older you get as a Homo-Deus. The more emotionless you become. Becoming almost robot like.
Hints why she's not as emotional in the Extinction ascension as HLN-A is.

[timid ridge]

ok

[bold dove]

Basically. And then used a bit more of her energy to make HLN-A. And left us like a deadbeat mother.

[teal kelp]

Dam being a homodeus ain't cool then

[tender wasp]

H-LNA becomes more "human" over time, at least my impression.

[teal kelp]

Literally the truth

[bold dove]

Ironic how a robot became more human then a literal god.

[timid ridge]

She didnt yeet us into the simulation did she? The player ascended to homo deus when the arks came down. the survivor we are in gen 1 and 2 are completely different from the previous maps right?

[fallow sapphire]

from what i know that is up to you

[teal kelp]

Dunno man

Gotta leave the question to the true lore nerdz

[tender wasp]

It is left open if you become homo deus, stay human or get yeeted on the Gen 2 ship

It is on you to decide.

[timid ridge]

The URE and FED are extremely lucky, both of their plans to revive life worked. Humans plans tend to not go that well most of the time.

[fallow sapphire]

basing off of something Rockwell says in one of his notes it does make me question if it is meant to be the original all the way through

[bold dove]

That's up for the player to decide.

[timid ridge]

I wonder what happens if they ever meet in the far future. (tries to exterminate and colonize the other)

[bold dove]

But us becoming a Homo-Dues is just flatout false.
'She' had the last technology to ascend to godhood. And the same technology malfunctioned and destroyed itself afterwards. So no more Homo-Dues's.

[timid ridge]

oh

[bold dove]

Honestly. I doubt we'll ever see Helena ever again.
Unless she can watch us like a creepy ass stalker from solar systems away from Earth. Then doubtful.

[tender wasp]

Yeah I also allways tell people that we did not become homo deaus, but got tired of explaining it all the time and so I went to, decide by your own XD

[small sun]

ey im back

[timid ridge]

ayo

[teal kelp]

We now have humanity on both earth and that new planet right?

[timid ridge]

yeah i think

[bold dove]

It's left for debate if Earth is actually fine still.

[teal kelp]

Unless the arks squished the last humans

[tender wasp]

Also I would say Helena never would put us in the mysery to become tha last homo deus after her, beeing all alone and having to suffer the same fate like she did.

[bold dove]

Rockwell 'could' of fucked shit up before he yeeted himself onto the Genesis ship. But also, he might of not.
Up for us to decide.

[small sun]

so there are only homo deaus on earth?

[timid ridge]

as far as we know, the Arks are doing their job

[timid ridge]

should be, but life may have not been able to get a foothold and died out

[tender wasp]

Also I think they keep it open what happend to earth cause they could actually use it to make another map or even another Ark game regarding it if they want too.

[teal kelp]

I really gotta understand why Helena turned into a homodeus

[timid ridge]

but we have no cles of that happening, so we assume they still fine

[bold dove]

ARK Park 2. 👀

[small sun]

except the aberration one

[tender wasp]

Or Ark 3 in 3030 XD

[timid ridge]

The abberation map prob got cleansed along with the map

[small sun]

yea

[bold dove]

Girl died from the King Titan. Mei-Yin yeeted her into a weird tek bed. And she became a god.

[timid ridge]

it has element on it and the Arks have a big no no policy to element rn

[teal kelp]

Mei Yin used the big brain

[tender wasp]

For myself I decided earth is now fine but still with its own problems, but that is only for my little Ark world. Also my survivor never left earth and so Gen and Gen 2 not really exist in my story.

[timid ridge]

Wait, do the survivors have a normal lifepsan like us? Arent Mei Yin and Diana still somewhere on the planet

[plain plover]

Nope

[bold dove]

Never states

[small sun]

probibly

[plain plover]

They mega ded, but we can hope from age

[tender wasp]

Mei and Diana are long gone

[small sun]

ded

[bold dove]

Or, we can hope that the Feds kept their DNA to clone.

[tender wasp]

We don't even know if they ever made it to Arat Prime.

[plain plover]

Yeah they did

[timid ridge]

They said the element creatures was a hive mind with the King Titan as the middle pillar, so wtih him gone all other element creatures should die/become inactive

[plain plover]

In the end credits of Gen 2, there is a different message

[small sun]

free food

[bold dove]

Offscreening a major characters death is a pretty shitty thing to do.
So for their writers sake. I hope they bring them back. "THEN" the can be killed off in ARK 2. 🤣

[bold dove]

"Eh" incorrect

[tender wasp]

yeah they could probably come back in Ark 2 if Wildcard wants so and even change them as they like cause there might be the base versions (before they even were at the Arks) on the ship.

[timid ridge]

????? what is it then

[small sun]

guys,

[teal kelp]

Maybe there wasn't a big timeskip between the survivor saving earth and Mei and Diana's last notes and they were still somewhere around

[bold dove]

The King Titan is but the guardian of Element. A avatar created by the hivemind.
There's no leaders in a true 'hivemind' it's the purest form of communism. 👀

[timid ridge]

Oh :0

[tender wasp]

I asume there has a bunch of time passed regarding to the ruins.

[plain plover]

Man I had this terrible nightmare last night that Vin Diesel couldn’t be in ARK 2 Becuase he had another movie to film and they were replacing Santiago’s part with Jerry Seinfeld

[timid ridge]

tbh all the "ruins" arent that ruined

[bold dove]

Imma tell every Vinsatigo hater this from now on.

[timid ridge]

santiagos grave is still very recognizable

[tender wasp]

lol

[small sun]

what if the cloning stopped in ark 2 because of rockwell sending a fragment of himself to the Eden map, and when it landed on the new planet, he tried to hack the ship again

[bold dove]

Looking at you Ares. 👀

[tender wasp]

I don't like Vindiago but Seinfeld would be not any better XD

[timid ridge]

What ship

[timid ridge]

Sir that ship is hella gone, did you not see it get mega destroyed?

or most of it

[bold dove]

Rockwell's also mega dead.

[teal kelp]

Rockwell doing the big brain and turning into the boss once again

[small sun]

in the gen pt2 cut scene, the eden biom breaks off

[timid ridge]

didnt both rings break off?

[bold dove]

No

[teal kelp]

No

[plain plover]

I think Rockwell biome explodes

[timid ridge]

if not R.I.P shadowmane

[teal kelp]

The eden ring is still safe

[small sun]

there is a clear representation of that one loop in the ark 2 trailer

[plush flicker]

in the Gen 2 end cutscene what are those little drone thingies

[timid ridge]

ik that, i just thought rockwell biome also broke off

[bold dove]

No shadowmane, reapers, noglins, for you. 👀

[timid ridge]

;-;

[bold dove]

That'd defeat the purpose of the ship blowing up.

[timid ridge]

Yeah.... i forgot he is the rockwell biome

ignores the massive tentacles everywhere

I would have rathered we failed and rockwell took over a planet and we go to war with his planet :>

[teal kelp]

Are Shadowmanes a creation of rockwell or a creation of the ship's crew like the Maewing?

[tender wasp]

rockwell

[fallow sapphire]

very much Rockwell

[timid ridge]

Rockwell

[small sun]

if u look 3:30 into the ark 2 trailer, the rock on the right shows what looks like a ring of some sort, and my theory is that it is either the ring form the ship, or that ring form genesis pt 1 in the ocean biome

[bold dove]

POV: Rockwell sends you pictures of his "Tentacles."

[teal kelp]

How are they tameable

[bold dove]

They're still a animal none the less.

You know people have fucking pet bears in Russia, right?

[timid ridge]

If you think abt it, thats why the rockwell creatures are so op. the shadowmane can literally do like everything except fly/climb and the noglin is a brain sucking leech.

[tender wasp]

manes are a simple chimera (mix off different animals)

[timid ridge]

the rockwell creatures are rather op compared to the eden creatures

[bold dove]

Surprised no one tried to knockout Rockwell himse- 'remembers that there's actually a unused knockout sound for Genesis 2's Rockwell.'

[timid ridge]

hold up

[teal kelp]

Yeah but those are Rockwell's kitties

[small sun]

explain more

[timid ridge]

i could have tamed rockwell, i could have used his tentacles

😳

[small sun]

u good?

[timid ridge]

shhhh

[teal kelp]

The ones he pets with his tentacles

[fallow sapphire]

wait holup really?

[tender wasp]

[teal kelp]

Tameable rockwell mod

[timid ridge]

Ya know what really gets on mah nerves. Rockwell has killed how many people during his reign over the two maps and he has the audacity to say hes scared when we drive him into a planet

[small sun]

bro, sounds like a mega moan to me

[timid ridge]

like bitc-

[bold dove]

One of them sounds like Rockwell's about to do a bad Skeletor impression. 🤣

[tender wasp]

he killed the whole crew operating the shipt at least, even more

[small sun]

who wants to ride rockwe-

[teal kelp]

Ikr he should have kept da mouth shut and die

[timid ridge]

people on abberation too

[tender wasp]

yep

[small sun]

also in the simulation, or was it altering

[timid ridge]

yeah i only said two maps, because the simulation was a simulation, so i dont think he killed anyone in there

except the master ai and the real master controller

[bold dove]

Issue is. If you take this theory as canon, then it makes it more horrifying what Element can do.
It's possible that he was under the influence of the hivemind. Since he 'is' a frail old man, and took a interest of element technology early on. So it 'could' be him snapping out of being controlled at the last second.

[small sun]

rip

[tender wasp]

he corrupted survivors via simulation

[timid ridge]

Stop right there, Do Not make me feel sympathy for him

[small sun]

bro, rockwell do be experimenting with himself

[timid ridge]

He was kind of cruel early on too

[bold dove]

"Ms. Helena. I don't feel so good."

[timid ridge]

He was a-ok with murdering people for experiments on the island sooo

[teal kelp]

It makes sense I mean look at the difference between Trikes and Corrupted Trikes

[bold dove]

He never 'murdered' anyone on The Island, dummy.

[timid ridge]

ik, but we all know he wouldnt be opposed to doing it

[bold dove]

Succ also has a good point

[bold dove]

Neither would i for the betterment of the survivors on The Island. Or trying to find a way off for everyone.
Does that make me a bad person?

[tender wasp]

to be fair in the original times Rockwell live it was not uncommon to use humans for experiments.

[timid ridge]

ugh i hate moral questions ;-;

[small sun]

hey, who wants to play ark?

[bold dove]

Ares has a good point.
He was from the 18th century. And that type of thinking was normal at that time.

[teal kelp]

Same

[timid ridge]

Especially people he found of a lower intelligence to him

which is why he was pretty nice to helena

[tender wasp]

Not wanna say he was a nice person but it also was more common in his times and so he only did what he used to do maybe.

[timid ridge]

wait, rockwell and helena

Caustic and Wattson, that you?

[tender wasp]

they were friends

[bold dove]

"More" then friends.

[teal kelp]

Obama Hamburger Sussy Balls

[timid ridge]

Friends with benefits😏

[digital flower]

Please stop

[tender wasp]

helena is lesbian ^^

[teal kelp]

EDP445

13

[small sun]

sussy

[teal kelp]

-Kanye East

[timid ridge]

well yeah, but dont ruin le joke >:I

[bold dove]

What is the reverse of a milf?
A dilf?

[digital flower]

Yes this is serious lore talk

[bold dove]

Dilf pickle.

[timid ridge]

"Serious" righttttttttttttt

[bold dove]

Dilfwell

[timid ridge]

it started off pretty serious

[teal kelp]

⛔

[digital flower]

Can we go back to that serious topic

[timid ridge]

Delete this now >:I

[bold dove]

Welcome to the channel.
Cursed shit is the normal here.

[teal kelp]

Calling Deleto

[bold dove]

Just like Rockwell's anus.

[small sun]

time to CTRL+ALT+DEL

[bold dove]

Okay, i'll stop.

[timid ridge]

I wonder if he has one of those hm

[bold dove]

ᶠᵒʳ ⁿᵒʷ

[timid ridge]

sir!

[bold dove]

Old concept art for Genesis 2 would like to speak with you

[small sun]

there is probibly teeth on it

[digital flower]

He has more than one anus have you seen the Rockwell biome

[teal kelp]

Stop eternally pls

[timid ridge]

Welp, ima go look for my bleach guys

[small sun]

or eyes

[timid ridge]

my brain and eyes need a thorough cleaning

[small sun]

get the double barrel

for both eyes at once

[timid ridge]

So i cleant my brain with some bleach and i can smell purple now

[bold dove]

That's official concept art.

"Haha. Anus door goes 'Spluuurg."

[small sun]

bro, grape soda dont taste like grape, so it is probably Rockwells stomach acids

[timid ridge]

da fu-

im cancelling all of you

[bold dove]

Nice!

[small sun]

yay, my fifth time this week

[timid ridge]

gusy guys

whats ya'll fav dino?

[small sun]

the biggest one

[digital flower]

uh

[small sun]

your mom

[timid ridge]

the titano

[digital flower]

Rock Drakes :)(yes Ik their not dino's shutup)

[timid ridge]

mine is the deinon :3

[bold dove]

Mines obvious. 👀

[digital flower]

ah so we both like buggy climbing apparently

[timid ridge]

which is why im so happy transfers are open, im currently on val stealing eggs from their parents

[digital flower]

Minigunwell?

[timid ridge]

y e s

[bold dove]

Yes👀

[small sun]

mine is actually a dilo or the voidwyrm

or stryder

[timid ridge]

only one of those dinos seems like the right one

[small sun]

ik

i just like robot bois

is it me or is it human nature to just hate ark seagulls

i forgot what they are called

[timid ridge]

Yes and any other reaction to them is treason and heresy

[small sun]

yes

but they are good target practice

[timid ridge]

indeed

nothing more satisfying than sniping them out of existence

[small sun]

correct

[urban stone]

They are a menace

[timid ridge]

p e g o s

pegos arent as bad becuase they dont fly

[bold dove]

Itchy's also don't steal your artifacts when your cave-diving. 👀

[small sun]

good

[timid ridge]

oof

[bold dove]

Pego's can also steal your fucking ammo. 🤣

[timid ridge]

and max level gigas ;;

[bold dove]

And your fucking eggs. 👀

[gusty turret]

There's canonically gae characters thats so cool

||didn't Santiago also die on extinction fighting titans i thought i remembered that? Am i just remembering wrong and he actually did go on the genesis ship or did multiple of him exist at the same time or what?||

[plain plover]

||a clone of him died on extinction, and a clone of him was created on the ship||

[fallow sapphire]

||but the clone on the ship was different from the one on extinction||

[teal kelp]

||Basically he didn't have the memories of the ab/ext Santiago||

[fallow sapphire]

||and altered memories to fill the gap where he wasn't around||

[tender wasp]

||Also very different personality as well||

[gusty turret]

||poor guy||

[teal kelp]

||Santiago died 3 times, maybe he can compete with Krillin||

[gusty turret]

||isn't there a gap between how Rockwell got from down on reseeded Earth to the ship???||

[teal kelp]

||I guess but I wanna know how he got there in the first place||

[fallow sapphire]

||i assume the connection left open from arat prime||

[lyric tendon]

Ye but shadowmane skull in space orks tho... So there is hope for Rockwell's cats

[teal kelp]

Maybe in a part of the eden ring there were Shadowmanes

[lyric tendon]

We bring kitties to Eden

[gusty turret]

Rockwell just made a spino enforcer yuty drake saber hybrid because he could

[teal kelp]

Yeah

[lyric tendon]

Shadowmane is just Rockwell's first creation

[teal kelp]

Rockwell's kitties will now be mine to pet on a daily basis

[teal kelp]

Maybe it was the noglin

[lyric tendon]

Noglin is too complex

[teal kelp]

Or maybe nameless

Oh wait no they are humans

[gusty turret]

He technically created them

[lyric tendon]

Kind off

[teal kelp]

He changed them

[lyric tendon]

(not confirmed by WC tho)

[gusty turret]

||I think summoners would be his first creation to defend his "heart"||

[teal kelp]

Summoners are literally his immune system

[lyric tendon]

Yep

[gusty turret]

Did he not have to create em tho?

[lyric tendon]

Technically he do... Ish

[gusty turret]

Did weird flying eyeballs just randomly form in his organs one day? He might need to get that checked out

[lyric tendon]

Element is not for everyone, if symptoms presists, consault your doctor

[teal kelp]

Imagine a bunch of experts checking on rockwell

[lyric tendon]

They did and died

[teal kelp]

I mean the real life expert

Gotta pay a doctor to play genesis part 2

[gusty turret]

If you or your family have been affected by element you have the right to make a claim at Helena & Survivor law inc

[bold dove]

"If you, or a family member has been tentacled by the mass calamari man himself. Sir Edmund Rockwell. Then please call 560-566-696-GoFuckYourself" -Rockwell

[unreal pivot]

Can anybody run my tribe through boss fight I’m Xbox official we need gen 1 we can trade??

[lyric tendon]

No

[lyric tendon]

I know we wont get a SE ascension ending anymore but here's my personal headcannon

The SE challenge is so hard and unbeatable the Overseer be like
"since y'all suck at surviving, here's a manticore, i will left my auto ascension on in case you do manage to kill it, idc... Couldn't bothered y'all"

[fallow sapphire]

well the survivors in the notes didnt ascend the same way we did, they used the terminals... so maybe they didnt have to beat the overseer to use the terminals?

[digital flower]

Yeah but they didn't know where it would take them they probably only got a holographic image of the ark

And no they still had to fight the overseer

Well except on Abb when they nuked the fuck outta the place

But they didn't really ascend they made a portal straight to Earth

[fallow sapphire]

Helena and Rockwell never talk about a fight on scorched, and Nerva fought because he wanted the power of the arks

[digital flower]

Well Helena was knocked unconscious and Rockwell was just admiring the vast outer space and the other arks(because its an amazing view)

[fallow sapphire]

for the island yes

[digital flower]

Nerva was lured in with the idea of power with the arks by rockwell, not even he knew if they held any power or what purpose it would all lead to

[fallow sapphire]

yes i know

[digital flower]

Until Abb

[fallow sapphire]

but thats why i say he wanted to kill the overseer, because he thought that was the final challenge for the power

[digital flower]

Yeah

[fallow sapphire]

so its entirely possible they didnt have to beat the overseers to ascend, not saying its 100%, but its possible

[digital flower]

I bet Nerva did it on hardcore mode gamma

[fallow sapphire]

easy

[digital flower]

Imagine not having the ability to respawn

[digital flower]

I imagine the overseer would've gotten in their way if they tried to use the terminals like maybe they were blocked or something until he was defeated

[fallow sapphire]

probably in about a month or two time i wont have to imagine that

[digital flower]

👀

[fallow sapphire]

also a possibility, but maybe the overseers werent meant to be fought directly, have the design too but maybe they were just meant to keep the arks in balance

it feels so amazing to be back lol

[digital flower]

No the overseer was definitely designed to be fought directly or else nobody would've made it back to earth to activate the reseed protocol

Because like the genesis simulation the arks were put up as a test or challenge of sorts

Except the simulation had a different goal in mind

[fallow sapphire]

the plan was never to send someone down in the beginning, just to wait out the infection

[digital flower]

Where is this said?

That the goal of the arks was to wait out the corruption

[fallow sapphire]

gimme a year, gotta look through the notes again

[digital flower]

If its a gen 2 note tag it with spoilers

[fallow sapphire]

dont think it is... but yeah i have no idea which so its gonna be a bit

[lyric tendon]

Maybe the SE Overseer prefers brains over brawn unlike the Island

[fallow sapphire]

well, simply put, I am a complete idiot

i misunderstood something long ago, and stuck by it

[digital flower]

No worries

[fallow sapphire]

yeah im really not sure as to why scorched's overseer didnt do anything, cause if there was a fight they shouldnt have survived as the islands killed all of nerva's people

[digital flower]

I think they fought the manticore and then just kind of ended up on Abb

[fallow sapphire]

no cause helena never fought the manticore, and they also went to the colosseum to leave

[digital flower]

Oh idk then maybe it wasn't as difficult

Or the overseer was weaker

[fallow sapphire]

even if they went in with creatures they wouldnt have anything big and powerful, Rockwell wouldnt be able to do much and Helena was fairly new to using guns and such

so it would have to be really weak

[digital flower]

Yeah I mean there are thousands of arks and we know that each are different from the others so it wouldn't be too much to assume that some are less challenging than others or more challenging

[fallow sapphire]

maybe Helena bored it to death talking about her dossiers

[digital flower]

Maybe the desert was the harsh part of the ark so they made the fights a cake walk

[fallow sapphire]

fair, the manticore isnt exactly hard

[digital flower]

Lol and it got sick of hearing Rockwell blabber on

[fallow sapphire]

exactly

[digital flower]

Greetings and salutations everyone!

Maybe that's how everyone else feels when they see us talk about ark lore and think, damn these guys are boring nerds

[fallow sapphire]

honestly probably

[digital flower]

Better than complaining to WC just for breathing though

[old vortex]

Hello… is anyone up for discussing a theory that I have for ark 2?

[fallow sapphire]

by all means, fire away

[old vortex]

At the end of extinction, we see all the arks come and take out the element from Earth.

We know Ark 2 doesn’t have Tek in it. So possibly no element.

Spoiler for gen2
||At the end of Gen 2, we see Vin Diesel floating towards a planet. Could it possibly be, that this is Earth but thousands of years after the Arks landed?

This might explain why there’s pteranodon and rexes in the trailer.

Could the alien people we see, be from another Ark.||

[fallow sapphire]

the planet is a new one, as seen in the ark 2 trailer's description. I assume the orc things are the inhabitants of the island, and spoilers for gen 2 ending ||the ring that got taken off was carrying dinos, so it would also disperse the creatures along side mankin||

also @old vortex can you tag the gen 2 part with spoilers

[old vortex]

Sorry, how do I do the spoiler thing?

[fallow sapphire]

add || on both sides, 2 on each side

2 on each side, not just one

[old vortex]

Sweet, ty for that.

[fallow sapphire]

took me awhile to figure it out too lol

[old vortex]

I’ll need to rewatch the trailer and stuff again.
So many questions to be answered 😂

[fallow sapphire]

definitely hoping it gets talked about much more now that they finished ark 1's story

[old vortex]

Yeah, definitely.

How do you feel about No Tek?

I’m looking forward to a more primitive game. Hopefully they implement stuff from Prim+. That mod has so much amazing stuff in it

[fallow sapphire]

ive never been huge on using tek, the only 2 places i have used it regularly is extinction and gen 2, so im kind of looking forward to no tek... i do still want some industrial things, but im fine with tek gone

[atomic heron]

Gen 2 Tek Aventures lol

Anyways its interesting to check this part,1st time i see this

[fallow sapphire]

ah, welcome then

[atomic heron]

Ty ty,tbh im fine with tek,it adds that futuristic feeling,plus to get it u need to do bosses.My only issue is the lack of primitive stuff,i played prim + and it has indeed cool things,but not many of them are actually useful

[fallow sapphire]

yeah i think if ark 2 is going to center mostly around primitive certain items will be more handy, and more will need to get placed in that are useful

i never really saw canoes fit much into gen 2, especially with a tek suit that comes on spawn, but in gen 1 or even the island it could totally have been super helpful

[atomic heron]

I doubt that,for the simple reason that on the trailer we see Vin Diesel using a tek panel to access a room

And yeah lol they just added em cuz they cool

[fallow sapphire]

he wasnt just using it, he was turning it off

i do find the lack of tek strange, seeing as tek is what started ark (story wise)

[atomic heron]

Exactly,which means that maybe we will use tek on the late game,but it would be nice if they added some sort of decoding thing with panels,like the stryder minigame

[zenith ginkgo]

I think it’s gonna be more like The Island where there are remnants of Tek scattered around the map, with the only big ones being the Obelisks and Tek Cave entrance.

[fallow sapphire]

they did specifically say no tek so i dont think late game tek will be a thing

[atomic heron]

That could be a possibility

[zenith ginkgo]

Though I doubt the Obelisks or Tek Cave will be in Ark 2.

[fallow sapphire]

would be weirder if they were

[atomic heron]

I mean as far as i know,the old earth got destroyed by some kind of cataclism,then humans escaped with the arks,different ones to evolve,and so on.I could be wrong,but is this true?

Cuz im kinda lost with some lore parts

[fallow sapphire]

arks wouldnt have that kind of mobility

[atomic heron]

Mostly cuz ive been too focused on shooting ppl instead of listening or checking the dossiers

[fallow sapphire]

plus the escape plan was the ship, arks were meant to save earth

[atomic heron]

So thats why they call the arks "seeds of life"?

[fallow sapphire]

so if earth got messed up again the arks wouldnt do anything, they couldnt go back up

[fallow sapphire]

yeah, they held everything earth needed to regrow, humans, plants, and animals

[zenith ginkgo]

I don’t see why they wouldn’t. I mean, there is nothing around the crater we saw that suggests the ARKs needed any assistance launching into Earths orbit.

[atomic heron]

Now on my timeline head my question rn is:if theres dinos as animals,and normal humans,where did the "actual" or modern wildlife went?

[fallow sapphire]

they wouldnt have any life on it anymore

[zenith ginkgo]

But that doesn’t mean they can’t go back up.

[fallow sapphire]

it went extinct, and they didnt put them on the arks as the dinosaurs kept people more on their toes then normal animals

[fallow sapphire]

true, but what purpose would it house?

[atomic heron]

Wise choice then

[fallow sapphire]

their purpose was to save life to bring back to earth one day, so if they cant do that what would they be there for?

[atomic heron]

Oops

[fallow sapphire]

first of all spoilers, second of all ab would have already done that

[atomic heron]

True true

[fallow sapphire]

when it comes to stuff in gen 2, specifically the ending you gotta put the ||spoilers|| in there

[atomic heron]

Ah gotcha ma bad.Anyways it was interesting,but gotta go so cya and ty for the info

[fallow sapphire]

anywho yeah, the arks going back up would serve no purpose

[fallow sapphire]

cya and np

[bold dove]

"No tek" in story, or gameplay aspects is up for debate.

[plain plover]

I think Tek is absolutely going to be a thing in ARK 2, just not necessarily as plentiful as it was in ARK 1's later expansions

Gen 2 was the peak of Tek, I don't think we can get to a higher level of tek then that, so let's take a step back to more primitive theme

there will be likely be tek esc items that allow for more non-realistic abilities like the force field or jetpack. but I imagine them to be themed like they were tied together from scrap with sticks and leaves

In ARK 2, first thing I'm picking up is my old tek suit, hopefully my body didn't despawn

[bronze turtle]

Think of it this way wherever the ship was initially going they made the maewing to be an interstellar wet nurse (notice it's not on the rockwell side) clearly you can't genetically engineer a creature like this without element so I'm absolutely sure mythical elemental creatures will return in Ark 2 and if Element Returns Tek will return

[plain plover]

certain creatures in ark ride on the line of canonicity

like the Daeodon

and of course extinction creatures are element based

there is a weird hole surrounding element in Genesis

[bronze turtle]

I think the overall story of Element is human greed making a miracle turn into a tragedy

It obviously has done horrible things and destroyed the world but element was also used for the arks and to save the planet

[plain plover]

the hole is more surrounding Element's involvement in the Ship's uncontaminated state

[bronze turtle]

I think the only reason element became what it was on the genesis ship is because rockwell escaped aberration after we defeat the king titan and save the earth and he somehow managed to get onto the ship

[plain plover]

theres more problem with that

of course element being on the ship makes sense after Rockwell showed up

but the question that there is conflicting evidence for is was there any before

[vivid loom]

most likely since they would need to power the ship and element being a very good energy source

[fallow sapphire]

bits and pieces in the ground yes, but is it whats powering the ship?

[bronze turtle]

Most likely

[plain plover]

but the thing is acording to Nida's notes there was no element on the ship

but in a gabriel note she says it's powering everything

then in HLN-A note she says the artificial sun powers everything

and if there was element on the ship it would be contradictory to the mission

[bronze turtle]

I think Nida is more for a look on what the workers were told as they were doing and building and finishing touches and such

[bronze turtle]

Well what was their mission? Thats the one thing we never find out

[plain plover]

we know exactly what the mission was

it was too find a new planet to save all of life on Earth

[vivid loom]

probably to find another habitable world due to over population

[plain plover]

Overpopulation?

[vivid loom]

yeah

[fallow sapphire]

have you not seen extinction?

[plain plover]

Earth was freaking dead due to element contamination

[vivid loom]

no duh

but after all that

[plain plover]

this is why Nida flips out when she spots element in Rockwell's cells

[bronze turtle]

Do you not remember thr end of extinction where all the arcs return home and start pruging the world of element and rejuvenating it?

[vivid loom]

exactly and people come back so its a likely explanation

[fallow sapphire]

the ship didnt launch after the arks returned

[bronze turtle]

The thing is if that never happened then rockwell could never return and hack onto the colony ship anyway because if it Didn't happen he'd still be trapped in the abberation arc

[vivid loom]

yes

[plain plover]

the plan of the arks and Genesis ship involved releasing everyone who ever lived on Earth onto it at the same time

ever lived on earth

today that's somewhere around 40 billion people

[vivid loom]

probably more than that but ok

[bronze turtle]

Genesis 2 survivor is a seperate survivor than the one from Island to Extinction

[plain plover]

it's complicated

[vivid loom]

yeah clones

[bronze turtle]

It's poorly explained is what it is

[vivid loom]

indeed

[fallow sapphire]

wouldnt be interesting if it is laid out

[bronze turtle]

Keeping stuff too vague is also an issue

[vivid loom]

yeah

[bronze turtle]

Because then it just gets confusing

[plain plover]

it never really gets explained but I believe the intended explanation is that we are a clone of the person who saved Earth, a second version, the original is still partying down on Earth

or we can be new person it's up to the player

[vivid loom]

potentially

[bronze turtle]

That sounds most likely

I think the genesis ship was already in motion by the time we even made it back to earth from aberration

[vivid loom]

if it was in motion how did rockwell get on

[plain plover]

that just never gets explained

HLN-A out right dodges the question

[bronze turtle]

True and in orser for the ship to not be in orbit and for the planet to be terminally ill like Santiago's Genesis notes imply (before we find out he's talking in the far past before the arcs were even made and were just an idea)

[plain plover]

it's explicitly stated in Gen 2 that the ship has been jumping from star to star for thousands of years prior to our arrival

When I say it neven gets explained I mean it never gets explained

[vivid loom]

also maybe the ship was about to lanch and rockwell snuck on to the ship and hid himself inside a secluded area where not many people go

[plain plover]

but the ship launched at the same as the arks

[bronze turtle]

In order for them to only have made the ship after extinction that would mean rockwell would've had to have re-corrupted the entire earth which also means he would've had to fight off the cleaning power of the arks as well as Helena and any of the other cast characters who survived Extinction

[vivid loom]

indeed

[bronze turtle]

Which I don't think he would've been able to do since Helena was just as much a god as he was

[vivid loom]

true

[bronze turtle]

Like Helena with her actual Homo Deus powers alone probably could've fended off rockwell if he tried to infect earth at the source

[plain plover]

it just doesn't get explained

[vivid loom]

yeah but maybe he didnt try to corrupt the earth and then decided to lay low until he could get on the ship

[bronze turtle]

Though admittedly I'd give anything to keep at least rockwell's influence around in some way because I want to the shadowmane to stick around forever

[plain plover]

also as a note Helena specifically mentions that she doesn't pretty much any power in the physical world

"I would do it myself, but I have no hands"

[fallow sapphire]

if she had the power to fend off against rockwell, why wouldnt she use it against the corruption

[plain plover]

I'm not saying the rockwell recorrupting thing is right becuase it isn't

[bronze turtle]

She wasn't even freed properly until we killed alpha king titan for one

[vivid loom]

maybe she didnt have enough power to do that

[plain plover]

yeah, yeah she didn't, and she doesn't need it anymore

the Point I was trying to make was that there is plot hole in Genesis involving element and the ship

[fallow sapphire]

very much so

[vivid loom]

indeed

[plain plover]

it doesn't make sense if it is on the ship, and it doesn't make sense if it wasn't

though it does kind of make more sense if it wasnt

[fallow sapphire]

fragments of it being there wouldnt be a crazy surprise

[bronze turtle]

It being used properly like in extinction where the element powered Arks we're used to absorb the corrupted element and turn it good again we see things like that happen in motion with the genesis part 2 final shot after all where the purple is slowly absorbed then becomes blue again

[simple thorn]

Is ark 2 gonna be more story driven? Cause just regular old ark feels like rust with dinosaurs

[plain plover]

about as story driven as Genesis

it's still going to play like regular old ark

a mmo survival pvp rpg on dvd for people with adhd

[bronze turtle]

Long as I get my Shadowmane in 1080p with Ark 2 I don't care what they do

[plain plover]

When all the shadowmanes got blown up with the ship

[fallow sapphire]

aight so nida doesnt flat out say the ship isnt powered by element, but she is surprised to see element samples so that makes it seem like it isnt, but then as you said she tells gabriel almost everything around them is powered by it, from the suit to the stryders. The whole sun thing isnt a complete hole as it could be made up of element or not... i mean i was thinking about it maybe the ship runs off of charge, like the stryders do, and maybe charge is a form of element

[bronze turtle]

There was an extra ring H-LNA disconnected before she sacrificed herself i'll just pretend in storyline someone was smart (like me) and brought some domesticated Shadowmanes and stuff into the other ring before the ship blew up

[gusty turret]

Who was there to domesticate them.........

[bronze turtle]

Me and other people who enjoy domesticating shadowmanes

[gusty turret]

I don't think most of that would really be canon

I would leave the odds of ever seeing a shadowmane in ark 2 at very very very low

Two redemption arcs in one map pog

Also a vague mention of a gae couple pog

[lyric tendon]

most gone extinct but some turned into Manas, Snow Owls, Gachas, Gasbags, and Velos

[gusty turret]

So sunken forest desert and snow are like arks that fell early or am i missing something?

[lyric tendon]

orks with shadowmane masks saids "we just take them with us"

[fallow sapphire]

they are proto arks

they never went into space

[gusty turret]

Oh

So the moral of the story is don't use metal that is also pure energy but if you do make sure the people that worship it have a backup plan and make sure some crazy British guy from the 1500s doesn't inject himself with it but if he does make sure there's a likely deformed person that wakes up and decides to kill multiple gods and kill him before he destroys your big space ship with dinosaurs on it

Right?

[fallow sapphire]

i mean its a bit more complicated, and he is from the 19th century but sure

[gusty turret]

Only 300 years off everything else is pretty spot on for what you're supposed to learn from Ark

[zenith ginkgo]

Laughs in my breeding pair on Eden’s Ring.

[fallow sapphire]

only a pair?

[zenith ginkgo]

Mass breeding

[fallow sapphire]

fair

[zenith ginkgo]

And cloning, because I got that.

[gusty turret]

Wildcard broke my heart when they plugged the non mesh hole i was living in im gonna pull a rockwell now and become god and grow tentacles and stuff

[zenith ginkgo]

Plant Species R

[gusty turret]

Yeah

[zenith ginkgo]

I currently have one of each.

But because I have plenty of meat they are just vibing.

[gusty turret]

They broke my heart again when plant Rs didn't whack tf out of people

[fallow sapphire]

i mean hey, but meat plant

[zenith ginkgo]

Vegan meat.

[fallow sapphire]

exactly

[gusty turret]

I still wanna know how Rockwell transferred his physical body from Earth to a ship way off in space

[zenith ginkgo]

It’s believed that a terminal on Arat Prime was left online and he was able to upload himself from there.

[gusty turret]

Like how you transfer in game he just kinda teleported in there?

[zenith ginkgo]

I guess.

[gusty turret]

Also why don't we just rig his heart with enough explosives to collapse his whole immune system is that not good enough for killing him?

[zenith ginkgo]

I doubt he has just one heart.

If he needs to get blood flowing through all the bits of him that have infected the ENTIRE ring, he’s gonna need a LOT of hearts to pull it off, especially if it pulses that slow.

[gusty turret]

True

For being a genius tho and being able to basically create whatever he sure didn't give his meat puppets legs or opposable thumbs

[zenith ginkgo]

And leaving the guts of all the corrupted survivors on the outside.

[gusty turret]

And then he came to fight us when he really just could've stayed elsewhere for like 20 more minutes for them to reach the new world

I really wanna know what happened to Nida do you think maybe shes the girl we saw in the Ark 2 trailer?

[balmy storm]

New map and cool dino

[merry cipher]

the ideal ending

[vital hollow]

as far as i know element cna be a solid,gas and liquid maybe he turned into a liquid or a gas to gewt on the ship then turned back into a solid,i say this because i think it was rock well who injected element in himself

[vital hollow]

why need shadowmanes when we are gonna have 4 armed human noid aliens

[merry cipher]

why need shadowmanes when we can have literally anything else

[gusty turret]

True

Just tame a spino, saber, yuty, enforcer, and drake separately

[vital hollow]

lol

idk were the yutty is at tho in the shadow mane

i see everythign else besides the yuty

[gusty turret]

They kinda have a courage roar

Doesn't give the same buffs tho

[vital hollow]

oh wait i think i got a beteter theri on how rockwell got into the ship what he a little piece of him got on the ship and just liek that a hive mind started basicly telapathic so he could stilld be on earth with the other federation

[gusty turret]

Rockwell couldn't have gotten on the ship because he wasn't even on the island yet when the ship was launched

Assuming the arks and the ship were launched at about the same time

[vital hollow]

i believe the launch was activated when the arks came back down

but the ship has always been existing for hte longest time

[gusty turret]

There wouldn't even be a point in the ship if the Arks came back down

[vital hollow]

well thats the points

there are 2 federations one of them where wit hthe ark protocall and the othero ne wich is us was the colonize protocall

[gusty turret]

Nah the Transhumans made the Arks but also did a lot with the genesis ship too

[vital hollow]

yes btu the transhumans specificlied followed under the republic of earth

the people who did the ark protocall

[gusty turret]

Idk from all that i understand they were launched at the same time as contingencies for each other

Idk Ark storyline has quite a few gaps towards the end

[unkempt otter]

My question is how does the newly announced dlc fit the story, how did we get from the ship to a planet already built upon?

[vital hollow]

all i gotta say is i cant wait for ark 2 i hope it covers more on the gaps in the ark storyline

[gusty turret]

The new thing isn't a dlc

None of the free maps have any story to them

They exist for the sake of existing

[vital hollow]

i dont think ark 2 isnt a dlc its a whoel new game and its comeplety going back to primal liek no tek primitive+ basicly is what im thinking

[unkempt otter]

No the newest map they just announced

[vital hollow]

no thats a modded dlc

those odnt follow at all udner story line its jsut for survivors to have fun on and experiecne something new

[unkempt otter]

No that’s a free dlc just like rag, center, and val

[zenith ginkgo]

Another map to be gutted of its content.

[vital hollow]

all those dlc are modded dlc's

[gusty turret]

Nothing from Center, Ragnarok, valguero, Crystal Isles, or the new map is lore

[unkempt otter]

Part of their lore is them being a simulation

[zenith ginkgo]

No they’re just other ARKs

[gusty turret]

The Arks aren't a simulation

The only thing that was a simulation was genesis one and you wake back up at the end

[zenith ginkgo]

The only map that’s a simulation is Genesis Part 1.

[gusty turret]

It is curious that the Transhumans put mythical creatures on the Arks tho

[gusty turret]

Also that would just be pointless because the Arks were already purging element from the ground so there would've been no reason to launch then

[zenith ginkgo]

The Genesis ship launched at the same time the ARKs did.

If not earlier.

[gusty turret]

But again what do y'all think about the possibility of Nida being the girl from Ark 2 trailer since we know she escaped?

Or it's highly suggested she escaped

I think the girl from the trailer would be way too young actually

[zenith ginkgo]

Nah, girl in the trailer is too young.

[gusty turret]

I need to know what became of her tho, Gabriel's notes were such a cliffhanger

What is it with the bad guys becoming good in their last seconds alive i stg if they're gonna make that a reoccurring theme for Ark 2

[gusty turret]

But one more thing on this i believe it is a fairly popular theory or just headcanon that the huge skeleton in viking bay is one of Mei's warmounts

[zenith ginkgo]

Are you referring to Rockwell?

[subtle cliff]

With Rockwell Helena hoped that he had been corrupted by the element and the true "sir edmund rockwell" had died before going all batshit evil. The ending pretty much shows this as somewhat true.

[lyric tendon]

like i just said ||Edmund Rockwell is Asriel Dreemurr||

[lyric tendon]

not canon

[ornate hull]

Rag isnt canon

[bold dove]

Custom-ARK's aren't canon

[bold dove]

To give the villain a actual personality then making them a one dimensional character. And seem more like a obstacle then a threat.

[bronze turtle]

Rockwell didn't become a good guy at the end, he just said that he was afraid

I mean if I was a giant tentacle monster on a ship about to crash and explode I'd be pretty scared too, I wouldn't be the big bad guy anymore I'd be fecking horrified haha

[empty crystal]

Custom arks became canon with Genesis 2

[bronze turtle]

how

[empty crystal]

A mission has you fight waves of dinosaurs from biomes of the arks

[bronze turtle]

doesn't mean they're canon, just means they're in a mission

[empty crystal]

a

It means their genome is stored in the ship

And also means they are in arks

[bronze turtle]

it's just a mission

most missions don't have lore backgrounds to them except for like, three

[empty crystal]

Ok then, rockwell isnt canon

"Its just a biome, and its just a boss"

[bronze turtle]

the fight with Rockwell was on the ship, not in a simulation, and had lore to it, only about two or so had important lore, the Master Controller fight and Rockwell Prime

I mean sure some of the missions have slight lore like "Rockwell took over the ship's biometric system" but that's really it

[empty crystal]

But still, excluding any information other missions can provide just because they are missions is absurd

[bronze turtle]

but the custom maps aren't official to the story

they didn't happen in the actual ARK story, they're just bonus maps that don't have any lore except for maybe Shrek's toilet

[bold dove]

Dude, that doesn't mean that the maps are canon. That just means the creatures are canon.

[bronze turtle]

if they decided to not add the custom maps whatsoever, those creatures wouldn't be there

[bold dove]

It's would be pretty damn easy to make a griffon in the ARK universe. Considering how they where able to make a dragon.

[bronze turtle]

indeed

I wish they would make a Griffin soon..

[bold dove]

They're also only found in the "Survive the ARK" mission. Which is set in a simulation.

You know....'not actually real'

[bronze turtle]

yup

there was this one guy I met who thought Deinonychus evolved into Rock Drakes

[bold dove]

[bronze turtle]

if Deinonychus were official, I'd probably believe that, but they're not

[empty crystal]

Sure the simulation is not real, but it still means the creatures' genetic code must be stored somewhere in the ship even if they are not physically present

[bronze turtle]

or... Wildcard just decided to add those creatures to the mission because they fitted the categories

Tropical Crystal Wyvern was on the Beach one

[bold dove]

Didn't know you needed the genetic codes of animals to add them into video-games.

Since that's all a simulation is. Just a hardcore, reality video-game.

[empty crystal]

The genesis ship's simulated creatures are heavily tied to actual creatures

[bronze turtle]

hardcore indeed

[bold dove]

You're a loss cause.

[empty crystal]

:/

[bronze turtle]

rude

[bold dove]

And?

[bronze turtle]

nothing else

I wonder if the new dinos are gonna be canon or just on Lost Island

[bold dove]

Probably be only on the Lost Island. Like the Trope.

[bronze turtle]

yeah

I mean they made a dossier for the Amar maybe they're real?

they made a dossier for Deinonychus too though

[bold dove]

Dossiers doesn't mean that somethings canon.

It's till they're on a official map, is once they're canon.

[bronze turtle]

it's just a possibility

yeah, I'm hoping they're on an official map because they're sick

finally a new Sauropod

we should keep up the Sauropod grind and get Brachiosaurus as the community voted creature

[bold dove]

I want monkey. 👀

[empty crystal]

Cerato only chad option

[bold dove]

Hell nah. That'd be a wasted potential if we have 'two' Sauropods.

[empty crystal]

Theres already two monkeys go play with them

[bold dove]

We need something spicy.

[bronze turtle]

got plenty of Theropods, we got the Rex, Megalosaur, Therizino, Raptor, Giga

[bold dove]

We need a quadrupedal monkey.
Only one we have is the Megapithicus, which.....isn't tamable....

[bold dove]

There's a ocean around the island. 👀

[empty crystal]

Meso walks on all fours, there ya go

[bronze turtle]

yeah... what are you saying?

[bold dove]

Would be nice if we got....

A new ocean dinosaur.

[empty crystal]

So another penguin

[bronze turtle]

indeed

[bold dove]

...Penguins aren't dinosaurs.

[empty crystal]

Course they are

[bronze turtle]

you know those ARK Addition things that have super sharp teeth and can grab you

[bold dove]

[bold dove]

Those aren't real, i think.

[bronze turtle]

nah they are if I can remember their name

new ocean creature would be nice but tbh who actually dives into the ocean other than to resource grind and caving

[bold dove]

We need more unknown dinosaurs.

Fuck the classics. Like the rex.
I want exotic shit.

[bronze turtle]

I got one

nvm

[empty crystal]

Official conca

[bronze turtle]

I was about to say Heterodontasaurus

[empty crystal]

Thanos 😳

[bronze turtle]

but if you Google Heterodontasaurus you see something that looks like the Pegomastax, so nvm

[empty crystal]

Buh i cant post a linmk

[bronze turtle]

how about Livytan, the giant Sperm Whale

[empty crystal]

Make them add Nigersaurus so they have to be all awkward on their social media

[bronze turtle]

dagnammit I was about to say that I would love a giant ocean creature with some mobility

[bold dove]

Thanosaurus

[bronze turtle]

Livytan

Livyatan is my number one ocean creature I want to see added in

forgot that extra A, Livyatan

they're badass, I got ideas for them

should be alpha leed sized but with the mobility of the one ocean creature you tame with honey and only keep for 30 minutes (I foget the name)

[bold dove]

Concavenator

[empty crystal]

Pliosaurus so we have a bigger and not shitty Lio

[bold dove]

Gigantoraptor 👀

Helicoprion

[empty crystal]

Also without platform saddle so it can actually turn around like megs and ichthys

[bronze turtle]

Livyatan is tameable and breedable, knockout tame, give live birth, mobility like a Liopleurodon, bite as strong as a Mosa, decently fast, gives insulation to the rider because of blubber, very high torpor, size of Leedsichthys, aggressive in the wild

is that good?

size of "Alpha" Leedsichthys

Alpha Leedsichthys and normal Leedsichthys are the same size

oh really?

yeah, ARK didn't want a Fish as big as a Titano lol

it should be the Titano of the sea

[empty crystal]

I think it should be smaller

[bronze turtle]

yeah

[empty crystal]

The mobility aint gonna be useful if its gonna get stuck with every rock formation like mosa and tuso

[bronze turtle]

I mean for sure it's a Whale, absolutely massive, but I don't want it to be a massive slow raid dino

Leedsichthys is already humongous

I mean it should be massive at least it's the second largest creature in the history of the ocean aside from the blue whale

no

[empty crystal]

Its literally slightly smaller than modern sperm whales

[bronze turtle]

Livyatan was only the size of a modern day Sperm Whale

no it was way bigger

second largest creature was a dinosaur, Argentinosaurus

bigger than the Blue Whale in terms of length and height, but smaller in weight because of the Whale's fat

I said in the ocean not overall largest ever now is the newest titanosaur ever seen

like they discovered a new titanosaur species if memory serves me correct

[empty crystal]

Even in the ocean most rorquals and sperm whales are bigger though

[bronze turtle]

in the ocean is Leedsichthys, presumably growing up to 75 feet long

but still I think the hardest part of all this is realizing that they'll most likely never try to touch or change the ocean meta again

[empty crystal]

Nah , leed is just 15 meters rn

[bronze turtle]

oh

I guess 75 feet was the old length, my bad

[empty crystal]

There was just a craze some years ago over its size, like with most giant animal discoveries

[bronze turtle]

newest dinosaur incoming is a new sauropod

yay for Sauropod

it's a bronto mixed with a stego

[lyric tendon]

i'm entering Bulbasarus right now because i want synapsids with a crop plot ||and yes pokemon to IRL dino references||

[bronze turtle]

the dossier makes the Amar look kinda small

[empty crystal]

They really should stop skimping out on the tlcs

[bronze turtle]

and then there's a community vote for the next one right now and so far it looks like the "giant killer baboon" is going to win

[empty crystal]

"Only two dinos, stego and mammoth!"
Like h, the whole ocean needs a tlc

[lyric tendon]

bleed sharks go brrr

[bronze turtle]

tbh, ocean is kinda useless other than resources and caves

[empty crystal]

But those bleed sharks still look like clay models

[bronze turtle]

everything in the ocean needs to be bigger because megalodons need to be bigger also the giga and quetzal need a TLC far more than anything else in the game

[lyric tendon]

bUT bAsE LoCaTiOnS bRuH

[bronze turtle]

where

[lyric tendon]

only a PVP nut knows, and i am not one of them

[bronze turtle]

all I see is silica pearls, a Mosa, that pair of Plesis near that rock formation

I guess ocean is kinda cool if you're able to build a base there

[empty crystal]

Dont forget you loose everything if you touch the bottom

[bronze turtle]

ow

[empty crystal]

Friggin eurys

[bronze turtle]

underwater caves are a cool base location though

love the air pockets

[ornate hull]

How?

[bronze turtle]

there's also the underwater bases you can build on the ocean floor now with the Tek Moonpool and vacuum stuff that everyone seems to forget even exists at this point

[empty crystal]

Again eurypterids

[ornate hull]

Just swim up

Or dont get hit by them

[lyric tendon]

they are called "Torpids" for a reason

[empty crystal]

Yeah, you dont get hit by them if you dont touch the floor

[bronze turtle]

yeah... it's not like in Gen 2 where they can float up out of the water after you in the rockwell zone

[ornate hull]

I touch it all the time

[empty crystal]

Better safe than sorry, lost sarcos more than once to them

[bronze turtle]

though yeah I do hope we get some sort of lore explanation about various other creatures showing up in Ark 2

though honestly I noticed this awhile ago the same planet the ship crashes in after the end of Gen 2 is the same planet we see in the distance in the initial Ark 2 trailer with the girl and stuff

[empty crystal]

There are no new creatures and the "brachis" are just brontos wearing the scam costumes

[bronze turtle]

unless they go with the PC version of the Brachie where it has that elephant walk stomp attack

and it just overall is absolutely massive

not as big as titano but still noticable bigger than bronto

[ornate hull]

they should add Helicoprion

[dense agate]

On this "Ark Lost Island" where i can do the vote or share idea of a new creature?

[lyric tendon]

in the forum dedicated to that topic

[dense agate]

witch one is sorry?

[lyric tendon]

i cant send link here sadly

[dense agate]

send me on private

oh

[hazy sable]

Hi

[verbal notch]

hello

[gusty turret]

Partially true, i believe the notes on gen 2 said the team working on genetics started messing around a bit as they neared the end so it's pretty believable they would've created such creatures

Like how we know at least one magmasaur existed on Scorched from the genesis 1 chronicles

[tawdry token]

No one forgets them its just they are really terrible when a certain exploit that even now isn't fixed that everyone knew and then randomly forgot

They get rekt

[urban stone]

Don’t know bout anyone else, but when I read Santiago’s notes (gen 2) I’m just hearing Vin Diesels voice reading it

[lyric tendon]

Tbh i prefer Neddy's voice for Ext. and Gen 2 Chronicles Santiago

[tawdry token]

They should add the dino with 500 teeth

[arctic bison]

we need the nigersaurus

[regal heart]

So I was wondering i know us and Rockwell uploaded from arat prime to the ship , does that mean their were two Rockwell's?

[arctic bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bold dove]

Not how that works.

Is there two of you when 'you' upload?

[regal heart]

Rockwell was a huge mass lol

[bold dove]

And?

Your point?

[gusty turret]

I think there actually would be two rockwells

The archive on the ship was one of every human that ever existed, and i believe the same goes for the Arks, in a similar way to how there were two Santiago's

So maybe, just maybe we encounter Rockwell's human counterpart in Ark 2 assuming his pod was in the first ring

[bold dove]

This would be true. But like everyone else on the Genesis Ship. He'd be implanted with fake memories of 'how' he got onto the ship.

[gusty turret]

Yeah but it's entirely possible two of him were infact on the ship just one wasn't on crack

Or awake

But it seems like Rockwell would know about that and try to wake himself up

Also since the bridge exploded does that mean that all of the preprogrammed engrams and genome bank things they made for the colonists are also gone?

[fallow sapphire]

not everyone knows how they got there, look at Gabriel's first note

he died, then woke up in the simulation, no memories between

[gusty turret]

The crew were mainly the ones that had fake memories

Or it could've just been Santiago for all we know so he could do his job better

[urban stone]

|| I mean, the archives on the arks are quite literally copies of the archive on the ship ||

[gusty turret]

So if we were trying to get rid of element why did the Transhumans put it in the Arks as their lifeblood basically and give survivors access to the weapons and other stuff that used it?

[urban stone]

fight fire with fire

[fallow sapphire]

Just about to say that lol

[bold dove]

So....you're saying that we should've fought element with primitive as fuck weaponry?

[urban stone]

throws rocks at extinction titans

[bold dove]

"Take that, Dwayne."

[fallow sapphire]

Im curious now if i could kill the king titan with a slingshot…

[urban stone]

I mean, it’s very simple: just don’t die

[fallow sapphire]

Not exactly, i would only have 60 minutes

[urban stone]

I wonder how much damage you would do, and just how many rocks it would take

[fallow sapphire]

Very little and a crap ton

[vital hollow]

quetzal's and canons

[balmy storm]

Not really

[tender wasp]

||The archives on the ship have been the same like on the Arks.. at least at the time they were made. So on copy went to the ship and one went too the Arks but it is stated that at least on the ship they altered the memories of some people (like Vindiago). So on the ship they allways were able to make backups of the people on the ship and to reupload/update the engramic matrix, while on the Arks respwaning never was meant to be. So There people only came back once from the original person (like Santiago Abs/Ext from the original that lived in the URE/Fed war). When people died on the Arks they stood dead. Respawning came later via Helena who made it possible for the survivors we play.||

||There are actually 4 different Santiagos, the original from the war, Santiago from Abs/Ext (clone 1 from original Santiago), Gen 2 Santiago (clone 2 from original Santiago with altered memories and maybe in other ways, cause very different personality from Abs/Ext Santiago) and Vinidago who is a clone of Gen 2 Santiago.||

[gleaming otter]

oh my god

I think Grug is gone

[bronze turtle]

Who?

[marsh rover]

that's my name in game lol but not referring to me

[gusty turret]

Are you saying most people don't fight the bosses with pump shotguns and do it easily?

[ornate hull]

Pump shotguns arnt that primitive

[lyric tendon]

they are considered "primitive" for the future people

[ornate hull]

Ok but

I cant think of anything

[bold dove]

[gusty turret]

Yeah you don't need element for pumps sooooo

[ornate hull]

To be fair those are ascendant pumps not primitive

[gusty turret]

True

The real question is how in the hell do you learn how to make better weapons and saddles from catching fish

[ornate hull]

Idk that's just game mechanics

No lore stuff

[fallow sapphire]

bout the same logic as getting a solid metal ingot from one

[desert ridge]

@frigid latch how do u make a rep in gen 1 now that u cant make it in a fabricator?????????????

[ornate hull]

That's probably just a bug

Stop pinging jat

[gusty turret]

Listen to Matt and stop pinging Jat

[lyric tendon]

previously in #lore-nerdz

people constantly pinning Jat

[plain plover]

you can make it in a mission dispatcher

[radiant prism]

You know someone probably fucked their tame at some point

[lyric tendon]

i mean... we all do

[true nymph]

Oh I don't enter this channel very often... and I feel I entered at the wrong time 👀

[zenith ginkgo]

||Defeated Beta Rockwell Prime and in the ending cutscene the moon in the background is missing its textures.||

Truly an ARK moment.

[ornate hull]

||right. before the ship explodes you can see the shadow of the exomek||

[tawdry token]

as much as that ruins the experience i wouldnt want them to fix either. at least not until theyve fixed a range of other issues.

[arctic bison]

i hope they improve the frame rate dropping in the rockwell prime arena

[bold dove]

Btw. I fucking called the whole "neomorph" thing.
They're the Rockwell Nodes.

[teal kelp]

||They are basically disgusting meat puppets that can only be killed by exomek laser||

[dense agate]

one of the genesis servers is constantly crashing and rollbacking and a 255 ping

and they still do nothing

[lyric tendon]

Same withe the server i am playing on but we are trying to deal with it

[dense agate]

server outage doesnt do dam thing i sended like 2 times the report

[lyric tendon]

Sir, this is a Lore Chat

[dense agate]

dealing with it its what we have been doing since 2015 god dam it, we are in 2021 and its the final official dlc and wildcard doesnt do a thing how hard it is check the servers and make them better!? other game companys fix that kind of stuff like in a day!

im sorry i know its a lore, i just dont know where should i speak, doesnt rly matter

[marsh rover]

#general

everyone will ignore you here

[dense agate]

ya its that kind of ignorance that the game is what it is

[lyric tendon]

Again Sir, this is a Lore Chat

All game based complaints should be posted in #general

[digital flower]

Lol we're perfectly aware of the issues ark has we just choose not to complain about it and cause problems

[tender wasp]

Also lore has nothing to do with the problems the game has.

[bronze turtle]

Ark is bad

[urban stone]

oh the game is lagging? That’s just the characters brain being slow

[fallow sapphire]

Holy crap i didnt even notice

[thorn canopy]

Guys, the Noglin can’t control creatures that we can’t ride and small creatures but what about the playable ant Jeremy posted with the RTS reveal ? Will Play As Dino be an official thing ?

[lyric tendon]

hope so

[thorn sierra]

Ah same

[pastel sage]

Hopefully

[gusty turret]

That's why people paint bikinis on bigfoots

If you're looking for a play as dino game i wouldn't go to Ark for it you're 100% better off buying that other game i can't remember the name of

Im willing to bet Helena in the animated series is gonna be a Lesbian

[fallow sapphire]

Basing off the fact she has/had a wife I would say thats safe to assume

[urban stone]

A woman is/ was married to another woman, I think this woman is lesbian

[fallow sapphire]

Doesnt make any sense, completely illogical

[lyric tendon]

Ye but no humans to fight with plus i can be a Shadowmane