#lore-nerdz

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lyric tendon
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welp i accidentally spoiled myself the ending but not fully

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i wanted to know the difference between the ARKs and the Ship

golden timber
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Oof did you watch Ned’s video?

lyric tendon
golden timber
lyric tendon
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i know i never expected the ending being featured

golden timber
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Oh

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rip

lament ridge
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the ending was sad when rockwell said he was afraid

past radish
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Question for ark lore nerds. At the end of extinctions the arks including abberation came to earth. If I'm not mistaken the life boat was sent out before the arks came home so how is rockwell on it?

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If someone knows I would appreciate an @ with the answer since I'm not in this chat often

tender wasp
crude charm
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So they can update extinctions ending, but can't give us an ending to scorch? Smh riot time

past radish
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aight thanks Ares

bronze turtle
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They changed the extinction ending and now Helena sounds like a godlike being

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The old ending was much better all they did was change the voices

golden timber
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I can’t really tell the difference between the old extinction ending and the new one

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The voices sound the same imo

bronze turtle
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Lol

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In general ppl are taking about maewinga

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Do we ever get a answer in the explorer notes

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Explaining why they can breed even though they are genderless

tender wasp
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Genderless is not the same as not beeing able to reproduce. Snails also have no gender and can reproduce.

bronze turtle
tender wasp
karmic jewel
tender wasp
thorn sierra
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i havent finished note reading but it looks like we may have a new rockwell

warm brook
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Nah

tulip umbra
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What’s the mission name of the Rockwell giga?

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Where do you go fight it?

nova girder
bitter barn
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Do we know what the Arrival is?

fickle epoch
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its when something arrvies

bitter barn
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🙃

bronze turtle
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The arrival?@bitter barn

bitter barn
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The Arrival that Helena and HLN-A talks about in Genesis

lofty mango
ornate hull
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Ya pretty sure he didnt survive the ship exploding

rain nest
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Especially after that ending if he lives then 😑

compact quartz
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Hey when you beat extinction on alpha there is Rockwell roar

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So how did he get on the ship

kindred steppe
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Uploaded himself from Arat Prime probably.

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"Maybe I shouldn't be leaving a record of this, but I think someone left a superluminal link open back to Arat Prime that one of them used to find us out here- one of the... Homo deus." -Nida

compact quartz
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Uh I'm not a lore need I have no idea what that means I only saw needy the noodles video and Darth souls video

woven falcon
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i cant relly find to much lore online so do you guys know the lore

balmy storm
winged shoal
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Question, in the end of I think, gen 1, it says helena and mei-yin would be back, but I've just seen the end to gen 2, and I didn't see mei anywhere?

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Will she be in ARK 2?

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Or were they planning on adding her, and just didn't?

indigo scarab
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One thing befuddled me, what/where is Arat Prime, earth?

winged shoal
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I think the opposite side of the world from where we start off

charred holly
low night
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Yes u can

charred holly
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aberration ark crashed nearby, rockwell went there and took over genesis

indigo scarab
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Arat prime is a location on earth then?

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Oh, I thought it was a planet or something.

low night
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I had a theory about Aberration being a valguero ark that get partially destroyed and then corrupted by sun radiation + elements leak

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« What if Valguero is Aberration ?

In valguero we have an aberration biome with aberrant creatures and many other things from the DLC.

What if Aberration was a Valguero ARK, but one of the atmosphere pillars was broken.
Radiations from Sun & Element turn Deinonychus into RockDrake. Some Titan Boa into Basilisk
...etc

Don't know if it's true, if it was intended by the developpers, but I love this theory »

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Rockwell then came to this broken Ark and used his element boosted powers to create thoses nameless shit & reapers

bold dove
woven falcon
golden timber
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You want a summary?

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This might take a bit to write

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Okay.
A meteor crashes into Earth (in the future), containing a strange material we call Element.

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Two main factions fight over this material, named the URE and Terran Federation.

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I’m not sure if there were more than two, but the story only features 2

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Turns out the material is sentient.

bold dove
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And is a virus like lifeform

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You also forgot the part that Element 'literally' broke our understanding of the universe

golden timber
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Oops

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And Element starts corrupting the Earth, mostly because the century-long war over it made it get out of control

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There’s pure element and non-pure element. Non-pure is contained and controlled, and is considered “safe”. Pure element is very dangerous and a pinkish-purple.

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(might’ve mixed them up)

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So the URE and Federation make peace to try and save humanity

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The URE creates the ARKs, space stations that float above the Earth, meant to reseed and eventually free the Earth from corruption.

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The Island is one example of an ARK

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And the Terran Federation makes the Genesis Simulation and colony ship, which is supposed to find a habitable planet and start a new world.

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Genesis Part 2 is on the colony ship.

bold dove
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Technically, also Genesis 1

golden timber
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Yeah

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Is everything I said correct?

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oh well

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continuing the summary

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So these beings of Element, called Titans, started controlling the Earth

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This made the ARKs unable to reseed.

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Which is why us, the survivors, have to defeat the Titans on Extinction.

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Fast forward a shit ton of years, Helena and some of other main explorer note characters wake up on the Island

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this summary is very disorganized, I’m sorry

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Those characters ascend to new ARKs, with Helena and Rockwell (an old british man) ascending to Scorched Earth, and Mei Yin (chinese warrior) ascending to Aberration with Nerva’s (Roman general) corpse.

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This is when Rockwell begins to go insane over Element.

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He ends up poisoning an entire tribe because of it.

indigo scarab
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rude ( 🍿 )

golden timber
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Fast forward, Helena and Rockwell both ascend to Aberration and meet Mei Yin (again)

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They meet the tek survivors, an advanced tribe that broke Aberration by nuking the Overseer

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Rockwell ends up injecting himself with pure Element

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He mutates into a weird tentacle monster and kills most of the tek survivors

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The remaining survivors force Rockwell into the depths of Aberration

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Since the ARK is missing an Overseer, it choses him as it’s new Overseer

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Making Rockwell the final boss of Aberration

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Helena, Mei Yin, and a couple tek survivors (Including the Federation hacker Santiago) use a gateway they made to get off of Aberration and onto the Earth (aka Extinction)

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Titans hunt them down and Santiago sacrifices himself to save the remaining survivors

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Helena inserts a special prism into her implant, transforming her into a Homo Deus

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As a Homo Deus, she revives Diana, a tek survivor from Aberration who was Mei Yin‘s partner

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Helena tells Mei and Diana to go to Arat Prime

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That’s the last thing we’ve heard from Mei and Diana iirc

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And finally, we come in.

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Our survivor follows the explorer note’s writers footsteps, going from the Island, to Scorched Earth, to Aberration, and Extinction.

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We supposedly save the Earth by killing the Titans on Extinction and letting the ARKs reseed.

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However, Aberration crashes down onto the Earth, which may have messed the protocol up.

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When Ab crashed, it released Rockwell, who seeks revenge on us and Helena.

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And now: Genesis.

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Rockwell begins to try to take control of the Genesis simulation.

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Our survivor and HLN-A, a fractal personality created by Helena (HLN-A has the personality of Helena when she was still human.) ruin Rockwell’s plans by defeating the Master Controller and leaving the simulation

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In Genesis part 2, we explore the Fed colony ship, which is being taken over by Rockwell.

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He has taken over the first ring, which is now Rockwell’s Garden.

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Inside his garden are his innards, which was made when he started mutating further to control the ship.

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Gen 2 ending spoilers:||In the end, we kill Rockwell (Losing HLN-A in the process) and save the habitable planet that the ship found from Rockwell’s corruption. ||

bold dove
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Lets hope they're still around. And you didn't just spend all of that time for no reason.

golden timber
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That was almost an hour of typing

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On mobile...

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My fingersss

bold dove
golden timber
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Did I get at least most of it right?

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I skipped over a shit ton of info but it’s just a summary

winged shoal
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That was probably the best summery I've heard

golden timber
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Why thank you

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I just went off of memory so it’s probably not 100% right mildpanic

winged shoal
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I have a question

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In the end of I think, gen 1, it says helena and mei-yin would be back, but I've just seen the end to gen 2, and I didn't see mei anywhere?
Will she be in ARK 2?

golden timber
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I have no idea

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Maybe? If Santiago is, she might

lament ridge
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prob ye

next ether
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Keep in mind, the survivor in the genesis dlcs is not the same one from the island through to extinction. iirc

lament ridge
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mhmm

next ether
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At least in lore

bronze turtle
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bro the Garden is scary

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lightning everywhere, idk if it hurts you or structures or anything but I stay away from it just incase

next ether
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iirc it was confirmed by one of the community managers?

bold dove
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No?

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It was confirmed 'otherwise' by Cedric in the Extra-life stream back in 2019. For Genesis 1.

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And even that's still vague. Since they're a "Community" manager. They have no parts in the story at all.

lofty scaffold
bold dove
lofty scaffold
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It's still my theory I wasn't saying he was right

bold dove
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They left enough wiggle room in the lore for the 'players' to decide the fate of Earth, after the events of Extinction.
And if they're the same survivor, or not.

lofty scaffold
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Doesn't make logical sense how you go from earth to a spaceship

bold dove
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Arat-Prime

lofty scaffold
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That happened before the earth ever died?

bold dove
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And this is ARK we're talking about. Logic has been thrown out of the window

lofty scaffold
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True doubt they thought this far ahead

bold dove
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That's not what i mean at all.

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Element 'literally' broke logic in the ARK universe.

lofty scaffold
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But the ship was launched before the world "ended"

bold dove
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And who to say that Helena. A now literal god, couldn't just transfer us onto the ship.

lofty scaffold
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Same with the arks and I mean I guess

bold dove
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Rockwell was able to transfer onto the Genesis-ship. That's how he got onto it. Which i believe confirms this in the new notes.
If Rockwell, a simple flesh man can transfer onto the ship. Then i think we can too.

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Again. There's enough wiggle room for both ends.

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They probably left the fate of Earth fully unknown. Cause they're done with the Sol-System.
The story for the fate of Earth ended in Extinction. The Genesis maps acted more like a Epilogue, and a bridge for ARK 2.
Whether you're the same survivor, or not. Is up to you.

dense ice
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We likely will not see them again, even in ARK 2. That said, ||Santiago respawned for like the 4th time, so we WILL see him in ARK 2. It's a long story how he got to respawn so many times but not the others.||

next ether
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Another thing

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The genesis survivor is a terran federation colonist clone waking up from their pod
The survivor on the arks and extinction is a URE clone

winged shoal
next ether
fickle epoch
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shes in a comma?

fallow sapphire
fallow sapphire
next ether
dense ice
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Left behind from Aberration's credits

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At least that's what I was told

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There is pretty much no reason to believe Mei-Yin and Diana are still alive when it's been probably thousands of years that the colony ship has been flying through space

fallow sapphire
next ether
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That could be a possibilty, kinda disappointed we'll never know

fallow sapphire
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Thats the point, not knowing

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So you can decide

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Also hi lore peeps, stopped by real quick as I expected it would be more tame and less spoilers by now... gonna get goin now lol

tender wasp
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Santiago on the ship is not the same like the on on Abs/Ext. Both originate from the original Santiago Data /which were saved some time after the Element war and Ship had a copy and the Arks had a copy of this version of him. The ship so altered his memories, grew him a new body and maybe even altered his personality. A reason why he is on the ship. He knows nothing about Abs/Ext Santiago or what that Santiago did. 2 different persons.

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WIth Rockwell, I would say, he went to Arat prime and was able to upload himself into the Gen Sim and started tocorrupt frome there and respawned in a body there, even his cause he was in the data bank there as well.

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For our survivor, I think if you decide it is the same like on the Arks, that Helena did put our Data in so we have all our memories. Most plaussible for myself but still a lot of plot-holes.

rose cave
tender wasp
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But in one of the Gen 2 notes of Santiago he mentions data on the ship of a warrior-queen, might be a hint to Mei but also could be nothing. But if, it will not be the same Mei like on the Arks.

rose cave
dense ice
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I caught that too. She wouldn't have any memory of Helena, etc.

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if she was brought back, which isn't necessarily out of the question.

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URE shared engrammic matrixes with the feds, I believe -- so... actually possible.

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ARK 2 could have a different Mei-Yin.

tender wasp
dense ice
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Rockwell, Helena... all of them... Could perhaps be brought back, though it depends if the matrixes were in the Fed's storage.

tender wasp
dense ice
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While it is sad that people can lose memories once they die, it sortof makes it a bit meaningless that basically all of the characters we know are just uploaded in some database and can be brought back willynilly.

tender wasp
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The URE seemed to have kept the original memories mostly unaltered (but only my guess) cause on the Ark it was all about who fits best for survival.

dense ice
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Definitely takes away a significant amount of weight to their lives.

bronze turtle
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I just realized we just kinda ditched Earth

dense ice
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But I'm not sure.

bronze turtle
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"Alright, Earth has been Corrupted twice now, let's just go somewhere else"

dense ice
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No evidence it was corrupted twice

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Just once

tender wasp
rose cave
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The more logical explanation could be we were all along on the colony ship and were getting trained to start new life ( seed ) on newly explored habitable planet all the while making us feel that arks were real, whereas in fact they were training us for the unknown on the new planet. Arks were used to weed out matrix database of useless people from potential survivors. That would definitely cover how rockwell got into colony ship

tender wasp
bronze turtle
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there are no longer any humans on Earth, just possibly Homo Deus

rose cave
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Rockwell didn't need to leave earth to become god, he could have easily ruled over remaining titans on earth and played god

tender wasp
bronze turtle
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also tons of creatures that are pissed off

tender wasp
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And as soon as the ship took of the ship was on it's own and the Ark were on their own. No connection anymore.

rose cave
tender wasp
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And regarding to our survivor WC said it is up to us..

tender wasp
dense ice
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Yeah it's really unclear how Rockwell got on the ship. The only thing that we can "sci-fi" it being is that he uploaded his consciousness from arat prime to the ship.

tender wasp
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Cause it is stated, the ship took off at a similar time when the Arks launched. Nida states they are in space for centuries allready and she got brought back several times, while Rockwell is only on the ship for 3000 days and the ship still had people working on it shortly bevore we spawn in.

tender wasp
rose cave
golden timber
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someone should make an animation of that lmfao

rose cave
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Other question is did they release dinosaurs pods onto the new world or are those dinosaurs native to that place?

tender wasp
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Ups did read it wrong.

rose cave
tender wasp
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For the planet, might be both, some from the ship, some from the planet (like the little lizard)

lyric tendon
tender wasp
bronze turtle
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did you guys see Rockwell's heart?

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curious how he gets enough blood from that, it pumps like once every 10 seconds and it has to supply blood to the entire Innards biome and the boss arena

golden timber
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I thought he didn’t have blood anymore veggies

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I know almost nothing about the innards lmao

tender wasp
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He simply may have a pretty slow organism and not the need of a super fast pounding heart anymore 😉

golden timber
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That would make sense, he doesn’t really move at all

rose cave
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He infused liquid element into his blood stream, element packs more energy than anything else

golden timber
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||holy shit the big heads and rockwell’s “children” in the gen 2 final boss are so nightmarish||

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i hate them so much

tender wasp
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ALso the eyes in the flesh biom allways watch you and even follow you with their gaze XD

oak quest
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Rockwell is hot af ngl

bronze turtle
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if you have headphones on then you can hear his voice all around you when he's talking

oak quest
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If you think about it rockwell is the physical representation of twitter

lyric tendon
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i am still bummed when the space dolphin mission is hella bugged in the server i am on

i might not get the boss battle

tender wasp
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that sucks.

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You need all missions for it ?

bronze turtle
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yes

lyric tendon
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all of them even gamma

the server even crash when someone completed Survive the ARK

tender wasp
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Ok that is somehow shitty.

golden timber
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There’s a workaround for the survive the ark glitch

lyric tendon
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?

golden timber
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Let a dino kill you I think, after you complete the ”final” wave before it loops

feral hamlet
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hello im so confused, how does extinction and genesis connect?

lyric tendon
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bruh

feral hamlet
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how are we in the ship if we were in extinction and element got cured and sutff, and HLN-A claiming we have been in the ship for ages

lyric tendon
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teleport/upload

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time skip

tender wasp
feral hamlet
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hmmmm

tender wasp
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Cause phisically not really possible cause the ship left centuries ago around the time when the Arks went into orbit.

feral hamlet
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true, i was so confused, made me theorize that everything was a simulation along with all the Arks

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and how would rockwell be in arat prime as well

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upload? xD

tender wasp
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Some also say they simply are a new survivor since gen.

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Yeah your memories uploaded so you can spawn back in a new body on the ship.

feral hamlet
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so i guess Rockwell is still a "Survivor" if he got to moved there as well?

lyric tendon
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i am still confused about the timeline between AB landed on earth and Ship taking off tho since both the ARKs and the shop took off at the same time

golden timber
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So Rockwell basically just said “New map, new me” and ditched his aberration body?

tender wasp
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He is different, but we also guess he upladed himself in the Gen simulation and spawned back in. Maybe like he allways got recreated on Abs after beeing defeated as a boss.

lyric tendon
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makes sense if it's Rockwell's Engramic Matrix gets transfered instead of his physical body

tender wasp
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The ship was the Fed solution to save humanity and the Arks were the URE Solution.

lyric tendon
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i know both the ship and the ARK launched at the same time, that makes me confused

feral hamlet
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a 2 solution plan i see

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i guess its just that we can upload our engramic matrix and go everywhere, i think that would explain it

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but why would our character go to Arat Prime if we were gonna live happily ever after in extinction xD

tender wasp
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Yup and the Feds went to search for a new habital planet and were ins space allready for centuries, Nida states that at some point.

tender wasp
bronze turtle
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weren't the ARKs a giant failure?

feral hamlet
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the Homo deus Helana?

dusky tulip
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If the gen ship launched same time as the ark, does that mean rockwell is still alive on earth ??

feral hamlet
bronze turtle
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when Aberration landed it just Corrupted everything again

lyric tendon
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okay so there are 2 possible cause for the survivor

  1. we are a new survivor
  2. Helena somehow yank our engramic matrix from Earth to Gen ship
bronze turtle
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we saved Earth, and then Aberration landed there and spread the Corruption

tender wasp
bronze turtle
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but how?

lyric tendon
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arent Helena sacrifice herself to become HLNA, the mini-overseer of Gen?

feral hamlet
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everyone turns into Homo Deus, and basically we got the cure to the Corruption and Element

tender wasp
feral hamlet
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HLNA is a Ai made by Helena with her memories, but Helena is now a Homo Deus

bronze turtle
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true

dusky tulip
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If abb rockwell and gen rockwell arent the same anymore, that would mean Ark 2 we are gonna face rockwell... again

bronze turtle
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yeah we did, in Extinction

tender wasp
lyric tendon
feral hamlet
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for our character that is xD

bronze turtle
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the implant disappears and is replaced with the Homo Deus thingy

tender wasp
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We never become homo Deus. Helena only shows us what happens and removes our implant. We never become Homo Deus.

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Data yes but not into homo deus state.

feral hamlet
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hmmm

bronze turtle
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it says on the Wiki that the Survivor became a Homo Deus

lyric tendon
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i still have a feeling that HLNA is our pet overseer

feral hamlet
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makes kinda sense, to how we get to go to Arat Prime then

lyric tendon
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the wiki is editable

tender wasp
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We never are homo Deus, as Homo deus we wouldnt be able to go back.

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Homo Deaus even have no way to go back into human form and we never loose ours. Helena takes away the visible implant and I guess at that point the ability or burden to respawn.

feral hamlet
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but we still get pulled to Arat Prime xD

tender wasp
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It is actually kept pretty open, so it is mostly up to decide for the player.

golden timber
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Then how did Helena get her head back during the Extinction cutscene?

feral hamlet
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its just how they look

tender wasp
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Cause our engramic Matrix gets uploaded.

golden timber
feral hamlet
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maybe Homodeus can manifest any part if they wanted to.

tender wasp
golden timber
tender wasp
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In lore it is stated the can't go back in human form and slowly get more and more lost.

rose cave
feral hamlet
bitter crater
rose cave
tender wasp
feral hamlet
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we literally saw her at the end cinematic

rose cave
tender wasp
tender wasp
lyric tendon
tender wasp
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ANd we actually saw her cause Santiago had a pic of her in his Explorer notes on Extinction.

bitter crater
bronze turtle
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Alex I messaged you

tender wasp
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And to be fair, the end of Extinction is pretty open.

golden timber
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good night y’all

feral hamlet
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true

tender wasp
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ANd regarding to Wiki I would keep it open and not state if we become Homo Deus or not.

bronze turtle
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I thought I was the god of lore for this game lmao I was dead wrong about a lot of things

golden timber
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i’m going to bed now

bronze turtle
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night

tender wasp
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Especially with Gen and people wanting the same survivor in it, it makes no sense that we become Homo Deus.

bitter crater
rose cave
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The homo deus seem to have no means of reproduction and they are endangered. The completion of tests in a series of ark's help out select the good apples from bad, so i believe we did ascended on Extinction into Homo Deus

tender wasp
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Best write something like it is up to decide by the player what becomes of their survivor.

tender wasp
bronze turtle
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it also said on the Wiki that Homo Deus built the ARKs

bitter crater
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... well fuck. That means I need to do ugly reverts instead

tender wasp
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The early form of them, the Tranhumans at a point what I asume they didn't know, what will become of them and it is stated several times that the Arks were made to preserve humanity and live on earth and not to save homo deus.

bronze turtle
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sorry

tender wasp
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ANd even Helena states a lot, that she loses herself as homo Deus, is super alone and she seems very uncompfortable beeing one.. so I doubt she would put such an existance on us.

rose cave
feral hamlet
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actually no xD

tender wasp
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SO the goal of the Ark was to select the most fitting human, so the people going back to earth would be the best fit to rebuilt it.

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But cause of the corruption on Earth the Arks stood in space way to long, the Homo Deus in the Arks partly vanished or totaly lost themseld and the Arks made every bossfight harder and harder and people that Ascended went into an endless loop of going from Ark to Ark, which gots broken by the survivors on Abs, who built the gateway project and finaly ported to earth.

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SO end goal of the Arks was "Select out the best fitting humans to repopulate earth"

bronze turtle
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dude #general is feckin losing it I tell ya

rose cave
tender wasp
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There even might have been children in the Abs tribe but they simply get not mentioned by the Survivors.

rose cave
bronze turtle
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and Helena mentions there are children on The Island

feral hamlet
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Ark 2 has a child with a implant

bronze turtle
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yes

tender wasp
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But also Helena states at some point she is the last homo Deus left and so I really doubt we become one. She would not put that on us.

rose cave
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But we do transform for a few seconds into a homo deus look during extinction cutscene when implant is being removed. Also she did enable respawning for survivors in the system- does defeat the purpose of the selection of fittest to revive life on earth

lyric tendon
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i'm pretty sure the transhumans is between Humans and Homodeus

since it's "transformed"

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who knows Transhumans are once super soldiers during Tek War

kind pulsar
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of what i have seen in the notes, a transhuman looks like a person who is a bit mechanical since you can see in the notes a woman that is transhuman has some short of a suit on her, i think

tender wasp
tender wasp
kind pulsar
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they where very advanced, she was taken out on a hoverskiff trip and she have never been on one before and still knows every trick and skill without being on one before

rose cave
carmine oyster
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I got a question regarding Rockwell

tender wasp
carmine oyster
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Are rockwells summoners and mutated creatures apart of a hive mind like corrupted creatures and the titans, or do they have they're own wills

tender wasp
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But lets say the end is open to us and non is fixed, otherwise we will circle in an endless loop

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Cause that is what WC states, ends are open and on us to decide.

rose cave
tender wasp
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I personaly never had the impression we become homo deus like a lot of others. So I think it was intended, we make our own interpretation, even from the old writer and I think it is best to go with that =).

lyric tendon
#

I am still waiting for that space dolphin mission fix for the Controller Players 💀

devout wyvern
tender wasp
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I should try controller on my PC as well for that stuff.

devout wyvern
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As long as you use left stick only you should be fine then dolphin wont go third person

lyric tendon
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Ye but what about shooting?

devout wyvern
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I just let the dolphin hit the wall 😂

lyric tendon
#

Welp... Banzai i guess

devout wyvern
#

As long as you aim for the rings you are fine

low night
low night
bold dove
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Element is a hivemind. And the King-Titan was part of it.

low night
#

Yup

low night
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@tender wasp If we upload our survivor from Extinction to Gensis, does that me we followed the same process as rockwell ? :)

low night
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That's awesome

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Btw, I love how Wildcard justifies gameplay element into lore

swift spoke
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i like the rest too btw 😄

low night
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Same process

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If you can Extinction -> GenesisYou surely can Genesis -> Extinction (and othermap aswell from extinction)

tender wasp
#

Not everything is explained and some stuff still are only game mechanics.

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Don't try to explain everything with lore, that will not work but a lot they tried to tie in.

low night
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In a data system, if data can go from A to B, unless restricted by administrator, they can go B to A

tender wasp
#

Story wise you never go back to the other Arks, porting from Ark to Ark is more game mechanics.

pearl vector
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I wonder what happens to the survivor after genesis 2's ending, it's interesting to think about

tender wasp
#

I think this is something they will leave open for us to decide.

pearl vector
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Yeah most likely

tender wasp
#

So it is still possible VD is only a Cameo for our survivor and we are able to switch him out with our survivor.

pearl vector
#

That would be interesting

tender wasp
#

But also will depend a bit how long after the crash Ar2 takes place and if that is the intention of WC.

pearl vector
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If that doesn't end up being the case I like to think the survivor leads the human race to re build and start over without element

tender wasp
#

Also how the story will play out.

pearl vector
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That's also true

#

Ark two is gonna be a single player story game right? Or was it gonna be something different?

slow quest
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I think they said it was supposed to similar to 1 gameplay wise , I'm just guessing that the story will be more connected to main gameplay.

tender wasp
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It will be sandbox multiplayer and yeah I guess they will try to make it more like Gen 1 & 2

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Regarding to gameplay.

pearl vector
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Ahh I see

slow quest
#

Be interesting to see a separate single-player though

pearl vector
#

Kind of sad that ark one won't be updated for much longer but I'm glad to see a new game announced hopefully on a more stable engine so they can avoid this games issues

tender wasp
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But they should make the missions more interessting and story focused, if they keep them.

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And probably optional so people that don't care for story can avoid them, like the notes, you don't need to read them if you don't care for the story.

pearl vector
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Yeah

tender wasp
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I know a bunch of people that do't care for the story at all.

pearl vector
#

I love the story personally

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When you play through the game with the story in mind and progress through the bosses it makes you feel like you're really the survivor and that you're fighting to save your species and not many games can do that

tender wasp
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Story is my main focus on games. Games without any story mostly bore me super fast.

pearl vector
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Same here tbh

tender wasp
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A reason I also play a lot of singleplayer, cause it is most the time more story focused.

pearl vector
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Yeah same however I do like story games with a friend or two sometimes if possible

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I don't like being alone. lol

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With ark it doesn't really destroy the story aspect that much if you play with a friend as the boss fights are still more or less the same

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I do like challenge in games however for games like ark I do like to boost my rates a bit so I'm not sitting there waiting all day for babies to hatch or breeding for weeks

slow quest
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^

tender wasp
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It depends on the game, for Ark it is better to play with friends but some games are better played alone. So Dying Light is great with story Coop

pearl vector
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Yeah

tender wasp
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Like Resident Evil is better played alone, more creepy and shocking this way XD

pearl vector
#

Oh yeah definitely lol

coral needle
#

random lore question: the gen 2 explorer notes talk about "trans humans" are those homo deus?

tender wasp
#

I guess they are some early stage of homo Deus cause they still have a physical form and they seem super advanced.

golden timber
#

why’d I have 2 pings from here but only 1 message

tender wasp
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Probably someone deleted the message they pinged you with

golden timber
#

probably

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I’ll put that summary on a word doc

low night
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yes

golden timber
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I had to change a little bit because I forgot to include what homo deus and survivors are

golden timber
#

woke up to 6 pings from this discord only lmao

thorn sierra
#

do we know what happens to ||NIda||?

tender wasp
golden timber
#

I wonder if having creatures in your innards is uncomfortable

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or if Rockwell doesn’t feel it

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I mean, having a dozen reapersand insects walking (and burrowing) inside of you can’t feel good

lavish elm
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Maybe they are so small to him it's like your red cells and white cells like he mutated them so it can become his immune system

golden timber
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That’s one weird-ass immune system mildpanic

lavish elm
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Rockwell is a whole weird-ass thing if you asks me xD

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By the way I call it an effective system

shadow trellis
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Are there any high quality images of the URE or Terran Federation logos?

merry cipher
#

His Proliferation is described as a gigantic immune system by HLN-A...

wintry wadi
#

I mean the real question is how he got on the ship in the first place

merry cipher
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already sent some but if you have some that are better, do send them along

hallow wolf
#

and you also can't really feel a tapeworm if you have it as far as I know

golden timber
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True

merry cipher
#

to be fair, you also don't have eyes in your gut

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unless you have gastric teratomas but even then, those eyes aren't functional

hallow wolf
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I mean yeah, but you know, Rockwell is weird

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and like, a living spaceship still would barely tickle at a titanosaur walking around

merry cipher
#

rockwell is definitely overly aware of everything in there

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no matter where you go, he will always be watching, and extremely aware of you

zenith moss
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Ima have to agree with that theres literally a biome made of him

merry cipher
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when i say teratoma don't look that up

hallow wolf
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I am so sorry

golden timber
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Too late

hallow wolf
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they are nightmare fuel

merry cipher
#

teratomas are pretty fascinating and good for any inspiration if you want to draw the meat biome

hallow wolf
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but I doubt anything you can do physically to the ship except in the boss fight that could in any way harm rockwell asides from literally nuking the surface of the ship

zenith moss
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😭 mildpanic

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I... saw it..mildpanic

merry cipher
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a teratoma is a tumour that can have fully developed tissues and organs like teeth, eyes, hair, muscle, bone

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i wouldn't be surprised if Wildcard took inspiration from these

hallow wolf
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I think a few on record had livers, I am not suere about that

zenith moss
#

They did a great job on makeing the biome creepy and nasty asf

hallow wolf
#

its an amazing biome I like it a lot, job well done

zenith moss
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Kina easy to libe down there tho just fly above the summoners and go get a reaper easy

merry cipher
#

some things in the biome represent nipples and i'm out here like. "first of all good job on making it creepy. second of all what the hell wildcard."

hallow wolf
#

wait for real? what happened to the butthole??

zenith moss
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Got a 168 on our server lastnight its growing up rn im at work. Got a nanny going tho

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I saw some buttholes

merry cipher
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many buttholes

zenith moss
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U cant go in them tho

merry cipher
#

one of the buttholes launches you and sets you on fire

hallow wolf
#

of course

zenith moss
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I tried😂. What one does that lol

merry cipher
#

a single one in the middle room

unique vault
#

There are a few anusses, one im sure comes water or whatever that may be from

hallow wolf
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of course they did that, I want to see them now

merry cipher
#

on the floor, it spews gas. of course wildcard. of course

zenith moss
#

Ahhh ok. I tried punching rockwells eye

merry cipher
#

you can't have an ark DLC without a funny doodoo fart joke

zenith moss
#

It just blinked at me and kinda cereped me out

merry cipher
#

it's the law

unique vault
#

Facts

merry cipher
unique vault
merry cipher
#

genesis 2 is the best DLC hands down

unique vault
#

Agreed

merry cipher
#

i thought nothing would beat ab
boy was i wrong

zenith moss
golden timber
#

I kind of like Ab more

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Barely

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It has more variation imo

#

Gen 2 is an amazing map, but it’s mainly 2 big areas, and the whole eden ring looks almost exactly the same

lyric tendon
#

As a whole Gen 2 has more variation than Ab

The Garden is basically just Blue Zone

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Eden is supposed to be close to Earth as possible, no need to be fantastical like CI

golden timber
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Yeah I know

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I just prefer the fertile zone, blue zone, and red zone over the eden, garden, and lunar

lyric tendon
#

I Dont mind the Val vibes of Eden

golden timber
#

Innards is the best, no doubt

lyric tendon
#

M e a t B i o m e

golden timber
#

Both are great maps

#

Ab is a 9.5/10 for me, and Genesis is a 9/10

wintry wadi
#

ABB is the best dlc Gen 2 has one of the best dlc maps

heavy ivy
#

ive barely played abberation, spend most of my time on the island on ragnarok. im probably missing out

golden timber
#

You’re missing out on a lot

vocal moss
#

100% agree

ornate hull
#

@merry cipher
||helena
I'm afraid||

merry cipher
#

but yes pain sobbing

ornate hull
#

Oop srry bout that

bronze turtle
#

sad

crude charm
#

I went to the m e a t biome for the first time

#

Never again

balmy storm
bronze turtle
#

seems like you can just fly over anything that aggros you

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also free R-Reaper if you do it smart

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I'll probably head over there soon actually, easy mutagen and mutagel

golden timber
#

When a noglin controls you, does it only make you punch?

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Or can it make you walk and jump?

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A wild noglin, not tamed

ripe hare
#

If you are holding a weapon, it will shoot it.

golden timber
#

I was holding a hatchet and it make me unequip it

ripe hare
#

It will also make you move around. You do not have any control when it gets you.

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Tools might be different. It definitely made me shoot the Tek Bow and the Net Gun.

golden timber
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I guess it was glitched or something, all it did to me was unequip my hatchet and punch

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didn’t turn or move at all

ripe hare
#

It might have been glitched then. Or your character was actually stuck somehow. But, it made me chase the nearest person or creature.

low night
#

Hi my lore enthousiast friends
:)

delicate quail
tender wasp
#

I still need to get me a Nogling and a R-Reaper.

fallen coral
hard parrot
#

nooblets

tender wasp
fallen coral
#

Yeah stay on the skiff at all times ahaha

tender wasp
#

also I need to get me Carbos first XD. I have none atm.

fallen coral
#

They don’t even have to be high lvl tbh due to their tankyness they’re the best for it

tender wasp
#

ok. They are not hard to get anyways 🙂

#

How much will I need ?

fallen coral
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8-10 @tender wasp thats how many we used

tender wasp
#

ok thx 🙂

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Also totaly forgot about my good friend the skiff ^^

fallen coral
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@tender wasp watch out for the plants aswell one hit knockout bring a tek bow and use flame arrows two shots them

whole spire
#

Its intended this hit box for the meawing to get berrys?? Soo weird!

golden timber
lofty scaffold
#

Will we ever get a scorched cutscene ANGRY

golden timber
#

Doubt it

bold dove
lofty scaffold
#

They said multiply times they planned on it

bold dove
#

Yeah.
Like 'THREE' years ago

#

They have bigger plans now. On a whole new title.
Scorched is also a pretty dead map in the general playerbase. So by the end of the day. It's not worth it in a business standpoint.

wise obsidian
#

Spoiler warning: gen 2
||it’s so bright!
Helena…?
I’m afraid!||
^this made me cry

lament ridge
tame field
#

I think I noticed some important details from gen 2 ending. ||When Rockwell is dying the ship has not begun to blow up yet but he says "It's so bright." There is nothing at that point causing light. He then says "Helena..?" The use of the question mark seems important like he is surprised to see her. Finally he says "I'm afraid." I think Helena showed up there. Homo Deus' glow and his confusion to see Helena would make sense. Also seeing the women you thought was dead that tried to kill you years ago while your dying would be terrifying||

crude charm
#

Amazing theory thing whatever it is

tame field
#

Thanks! Another quick thing I felt was worth mentioned but I feel is a bit more obvious||Given the fact he responded to the name Edmund which he dropped when he became the monster also suggests towards the end the element was no longer influencing him and Sir Edmund Rockwell, the 19th century scholar was speaking, not Rockwell the monster.||

golden timber
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||The ship’s glowing in the middle though, that’s probably why he said that it was so bright||

tame field
#

||If he is still alive I feel that really lessens the impact of the gen 2 ending though. Maybe he is with Helena now as a Homo Deus or maybe he survived the crash and will be an easter egg of sorts somewhere in ark 2. I just really want more David Tennant.||

crude charm
golden timber
#

||We’ve had enough Rockwell||

tame field
#

yeah, just some things I noticed. ||If he does make it somehow he should be a super minor thing. Like a little old man in a cave in ark 2 barley holding on.||

crude charm
#

Don't want rockwell to become taniks from destiny now

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"How are you still alive?"
"I have no idea"

golden timber
#

Or just a skeleton in a cave..

crude charm
#

I mean it could literally just be any skeleton tbh

tame field
#

yeah, I feel that is likely and would be best but if he was alive he could still talk a little.

tame field
crude charm
#

Either way I'm literally willing to pause my dnd stuff. I want to write an ark story sooo badly

tame field
#

One time my friend asked me to explain the story of ark and next thing I knew I had written eleven pages on the island alone

crude charm
#

Idk if we can advertise like that but assuming we all like reading I've been keeping up with this amazing ark fanfic, really well written

golden timber
#

Just a summary

crude charm
#

Gives me a bit of a game of thrones vibe, although my only issue is that some aspects of the game arent in it

tame field
#

I absolutely despise writing I have no idea how that happened. I had a minor operation a few days later which required anesthesia and apparently I talked about it a bit.

crude charm
#

Oh interesting, may I ask what it was for?

tame field
#

Endoscopy, was having stomach issues. They didn't find anything but I seemed to have recovered completely and out of nowhere despite the issue lasting months. It was actually the same day gen 2 came out that it disappeared. I got super sick that day and now no longer have the issue.

bronze turtle
crude charm
#

Helena actually cured you irl. Glad you're alright tho^^

tame field
#

The ship exploded after/right as he said his final final line.

crude charm
#

Yeah tbh I like your theory

tame field
#

dont want to spoil what it was. The explosion starts when he says the 2 words.

crude charm
#

Doesn't he normally refer to hnla as puppet and shit normally?

tame field
#

yeah

bronze turtle
#

there were a few explosions when Rockwell said that it was bright

tame field
#

arrogant, witless, insignificant are some of the things he calls her.

bronze turtle
#

the core of the ship didn't exactly explode when that was happening but there were many explosions across the ship

tame field
#

Yes but not in a place he would've seen them. I guess he could've had eyes somewhere else but all his eyes and heads that we know of are in his innards or the bridge and neither of those places had begun exploding

bronze turtle
#

the area where the Survivors were being held (like in the spawning cutscene) had eyes

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only like 4, though

bronze turtle
#

yeah

tame field
#

What really sells it for me or makes it a possibility at least is the fact and way he says ||Helena.|| He seems very confused but almost relieved as well.

Edit: ||Also HLN-A says "who knows maybe to lost souls can meet again amongst the stars." Which immediate makes me think of Helena and how she just shows up to people. Either referring to her return to the survivor, Rockwell or maybe even Santiago.||

#

On a completely different note is there anywhere that I can listen to all of Rockwell's lines? I thought they would have a spot in the explorer notes but they don't.

ornate hull
#

Does anyone on xbox have the hunt missions for gen 2

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They dont show up at all on my singleplayer

lapis cloak
tame field
#

Alright thanks! Honestly I am mostly wanting it for Tennant's performance as well.

lapis cloak
#

Tennant is absolutely amazing. I actually cried at Rockwell's death for a good hour or two over the phone with my crush lmao

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I'm actually writing a story of my main character that I play with based on the adventures she's experienced, and I totally didn't decide to make her one of Rockwell's followers.. guity as charged

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She reads his journals and becomes obsessed with his findings n stuff and ultimately becomes one of his followers

#

Cheesy, but fitting for my taste

tender wasp
#

||Rockwells line "I am .. affraid." sounds for me more like he his affraid to die, like he does now one of the reasons he became a "god" cause he did not want to die. Reminds me a lot of Arthur Morgan who says exactly tha same to a nun knowing that he will die of Tubercolsis.||

lapis cloak
#

legit that was the line that made me sob

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rip

tender wasp
#

||For H-LNA "Two souls will meet again..." is directed at us and her goodbye to us and that we might meet her again, more like some comforting words, so we don grief to much. Sounds like "We will meet again, in this life or another." ||

tame field
#

For me its diffrient every time. ||Sometimes its that, sometimes its Helena, sometimes its HLNA saying she knew and sometimes its HLNA saying edmund.||

ornate hull
lapis cloak
bronze turtle
#

So just finished GEN 2...man, this is one the best games I ever playued, but I am left with a few questions, I prefer to gather notes and lore on my own without videos, but I do have some questions, do you people have any idea how the explorers ended up on arks ? where they also clones like the survirors or ?

teal kelp
#

I guess

tender wasp
# bronze turtle So just finished GEN 2...man, this is one the best games I ever playued, but I a...

||Most likely our engammic matrix we had at the end of Extinction (the data saved in our Arm) gots uploades from Arat prime (by Helena maybe) and we spawn in a new body on the ship after freeing ourself from the Gen 1 Sim. Cause the survivors on the ship (like Santiago) are not the same surviors like the one on Abs/Ext. Actually two clones from the same base (original Santigo from the Element war).||

bronze turtle
#

@tender wasp } I got that, my only question is, how did the explorers land on the arks, as they were from separate peirods of time, mei, san, rock etc |

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how do you add spoiler tag

ivory fjord
tender wasp
ivory fjord
tender wasp
#

For spoiler tags. Mark your writen text, hover over it and click the eye

bronze turtle
#

@tender wasp ||Ok, good I was thinking similar, but all explorers, hen, rock, mei, nerva had their own original conscience and mind, they were themselves ||

tender wasp
tender wasp
ivory fjord
bronze turtle
#

so many questions :)). I don't know I feel I owe it to this great story to fully try to understand everything, @tender wasp ||why were their memories altered on the ship in gen 2||

tender wasp
#

||It is even mentioned in the notes they altered memories of other people as well and grew them new bodies.||

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||The Arks so feel more like "Keep the originals and see who fits best for survival" while the ship is more like "Alter memories to make people fit in better and beeing a perfect colonist/worker on the ship."||

bronze turtle
#

That makes sense, thank you for the answer

tender wasp
#

No problem 🙂

#

||Also regarding the Artwork in the notes, the cloned people look kinda different to the original ones but might also be some inconsistence of the artist but also might be wanted.||

orchid stream
#

Hello, over the last few years, a new and nearly full set of bones for the Spinosaurus has been found and pushed to the world. I am attaching a very detailed video analysis that has all sorts of background resource links as well. I bring it here as the Spino is loved. The tail is thinner/taller and was used for propulsion while swimming. Much love to the updates. But maybe a refresh of this dino for Ark2? For the link below, I removed the slashes etc and you can rebuild the link from the info given.

www youtube com watch?v=gtNgdxt5Rl4

lament ridge
eternal saddle
thorn sierra
tender wasp
thorn sierra
tender wasp
#

||And Gabriel seems have died cause he got controlled by a Nogling.||

#

||Nida allways was a child even on the ship. At least when she wrote the notes she was still a kid and seemed to have cloned several times allready. Cause she allways talkes about escaping that routine and that the ship must be allready traveling for Centuries.||

thorn sierra
tender wasp
# thorn sierra ||ah so i believe that she is the kid for number one, if he dosent wake up prema...

||Nah the nogling made Gabriel hearing voices and Santiago was on the ship, helping to built it. He got cloned (memories altered, maybe even body an personality) for that porpous centuries ago. That is when he wrote the notes on the ship. He gets killed at the end of the notes (he describes it himself) and his memories stored away on the ship by Uma. He is not a clone of Abs/Ext. Santiago. ||

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||Santiago not gets "spawned" when we are still in the game, he gets spawned in the secret ending, when the ship starts to crash (The ring) as link to Ark2.||

lament ridge
golden timber
white gust
hard parrot
#

trying to understand. are transhumans and homodeus the same?

golden timber
#

Pretty sure that they’re a early form of homo deus

hard parrot
#

ok

whole spire
#

@frigid latch is on?

golden timber
#

imma try to summon jat again

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@frigid latch

whole spire
#

Hes not here i think

golden timber
#

a

#

Jat we need more hln-spoilers

bronze turtle
#

Jatto

#

HLN-A's real name is Larry

#

or Conrad

golden timber
#

Caillou

whole spire
#

@frigid latch

zinc current
#

Hello who wants to join me as I loudly bawl and cry to the Genesis II ending

golden timber
#

ghost ping

#

I see jat stopped by isee_r

#

@frigid latch How are you?

south wing
golden timber
#

Journey’s End?

#

It‘s such a beautiful but sad song

lament ore
#

yee

#

ark story could easily make for a good movie

golden timber
#

What about an animated series 😉

#

🎉 Coming 2022 🎉

#

can’t wait, it’s going to be so awesome

bronze turtle
#

🦖

golden timber
bold dove
lament ore
#

Hmm we don't know how far they're gonna hold but yeah. Still, a movie about a civilization destroyed by its own invention, sending giant space stations into orbit to survive... that would be cool. They should do it the same way they made cinematic trailers for the island, aberration and extinction, animated series is gonna be cool though for sure

ornate hull
#

This man hasnt heard of watching more than 1 episode at a time

golden timber
#

lmao

urban stone
rigid palm
#

Coming 2022 AA (after apocalypse)

golden timber
lapis cloak
#

Watch it be delayed to 2023 lol

#

Jk but you never know

lapis cloak
lapis cloak
#

I’m mourning Rockwell by watching Jessica Jones for more Tennant content lol

golden timber
#

||I made my pfp HLN-A to honor her sacrifice||

ornate hull
#

Wasnt your pfp hlna before gen 2

marsh rover
#

hope they just stick to the ark story tbh

#

it makes sense, it's good. They dont need to change it loads. but I already know they will.

ornate hull
#

They wont change it much just enough to were we wont know exactly what happens

#

Like the most they'll do is introduce new characters and rearrange events that take place

bronze turtle
#

I like how they made acid in Rockwell’s inerds so he has stomach acid I just wish he had poop there

crude charm
#

You just wish he had huh?-😀

golden timber
#

The only pfps I remember having are the dragon, ”peace was never an option” duck, otter, more duck, and a assortment of animated series ones

#

And my current pfp

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Oh and a mana one

rigid palm
#

Asked around everywhere and gotten no response so ill try here: I heard somewhere that there is a setting to turn cryopod color region display back on, is it possible for console?

tender wasp
crude charm
#

Name

bold dove
#

Not 'directly' canon. But loose enough that you can "choose" it to be canon or not.

tender wasp
bold dove
#

I was too. veggies

#

I was stating how the lore in Extinction to Genesis is loose as hell.
Just like how the animated series will most likely be. veggies

tender wasp
#

Ah you mean it is up to us what we take as canon from the series or not, cause some stuff is pretty open.

bold dove
#

Correct

ornate hull
#

So how the fuck can voidwryms fly they shouldn't be able to they way they do

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You cant just make a robot that size fly by flapping wings

bold dove
#

Same reason of why we have air

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I take it that the space biome is still connected to the ships air-systems. And have 'slight' amount of gravity.
Since we can see what true Zero-G looks like in Genesis 1. While in Genesis 2, you're more slowly flying around

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And that 'slight' gravity is probably enough for the Voidwyrm to propel itself with their wings.

ornate hull
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Hmmmm

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I'll take that

bold dove
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This is also the game that has corrupted wyverns with fucking huge ass wholes in their wings.
And the fact the element broke our understanding of the whole universe.

ornate hull
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I wish we had actual explanations besides element can do what ever the fuck it wants

bold dove
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Then that's no fun

ornate hull
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It's fun for me

bold dove
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If that's the case. Then it'd have to go with 'our' understanding of science. Which would break its whole purpose

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Then you're no fun. poglinFuego

ornate hull
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I dont like to have fun I like to understand isee_r

bold dove
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Then learn Halo's lore if you want that.

ornate hull
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Fuck no

bold dove
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ARK's lore isn't for you if that's the case.

tender wasp
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The problem is, the more they would explain, the more plot and logic holes would appear and that would be no fun anymore, Knowing every tiny bit of a story also takes away to ad some own stuff, ideas, etc.

bold dove
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If they added logic to ARK's lore.
Then the whole game couldn't exist.

ornate hull
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I know
I am trying to rid all use for this channel by perfecting the lore so theorys can no longer be made

ornate hull
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Fuck you

bold dove
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"Livin in a Poglin's Paradise"

tender wasp
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No lore is perfect XD

bold dove
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Fallout's was.

Till fucking Bethesda.

ornate hull
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Very very soon

tender wasp
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It still had plotholes XD but the whole setting, etc is one of the best still.

tender wasp
ornate hull
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Ok ok but what is chris mclean hosted ark

pliant wren
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anyone know what the deal is with hlna note 11?

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every time i go in the space walk it triggers but never unlocks/ gives the xp

stone hornet
pliant wren
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"im going to assume they ran out of time before luanching this ship"

tender wasp
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I never had that.

pliant wren
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it just keeps going hlna pls

bold dove
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@frigid latch Heyo, Jatty boi.
Juuust wondering. But could it be 'theoretically' possible that a clone of Rockwell survived?
Unless something happened to Rockwell's clone. Shouldn't he have one like how Santiago does? 👀

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Possibly making him a returned character. But not 'actually' being the Rockwell we knew. And so everything he did before ARK 2 isn't in vein still. But it gives his character still a small bit of redemption. 👀 (Even though this Rockwell wouldn't know that his previous self caused ARK 2.)

tender wasp
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In theory there coud be a state zero Rockwell clone that does know nothing about the Arks, Element and what happend on the Arks on the ship.

bold dove
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Exactly.

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And so it'd still give Rockwell 1.0 his villain character arc. And still bring him back. While not being the Rockwell we knew.

tender wasp
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Also could be a bit different, depending on if they altered him or not.

bold dove
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Could be a Youngwell. 👀

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Rockwell was on the ARK for around 20-ish years.

tender wasp
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Cause they did with Santiago and Gabriel and I guess even with Mei cause in the ship Santiago talks about it and he even mentions a warrior-queen.. which might be a hint to Mei.

ornate hull
bold dove
ornate hull
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Shhhh

bold dove
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We're saying that. If they bring back Rockwell. But 'not' the Rockwell we knew and loved. It could easily work.

bold dove
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And for cost, they wouldn't need Tennant.
They'd go with a younger sounding version of him. Just need to have that hint of Tennant though.

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@frigid latch You getting all of this on paper Jat?
Make this happen in the first, or second expansion for ARK 2. poglinFuego

tender wasp
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The possibility could be there, so no clue if they will do it.

bold dove
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Technically, Santiago also doesn't know it was Rockwell who fucked up the ship. 👀
So there would be no hard feelings.

tender wasp
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And the base data in their Database was the same like data as the Ark had in theirs.

tender wasp
bold dove
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Correct.

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Atleast 'this' Santiago doesn't.

tender wasp
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Yeah both Santiagos are actually two different persons. They don't even have the same base memories.

bold dove
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And same with us. Unless it leaves it open that we play the same survivor (no spoilers from ending)
That'd be awkward if we did. 👀

bold dove
tender wasp
# bold dove So that's why they look totally different?

I guess you can take that as explanation. They altered his memories which is stated in the notes, but he also mentions they grew him a new body (which could look totaly different) and even his personality feels different to the one on Abs.

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And I found three pics of him in the notes.

bold dove
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Thought you said nip-pics. 👀

tender wasp
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lool no XD

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One that shows him in the time of the Fed/URE Element war, and two (actually 3) of him on the ship.

kindred steppe
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||I'm afraid if Rockwell comes back with no old memories of Aberation and Genenesis he'll remember what his former self did in notime.||

tender wasp
bronze turtle
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At the end of the gen 2 boss fight cutscene what does the shh she knew mean that hlna says?

swift spoke
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I think she's talking about actual helena

bright moss
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yo yo yo, i have no clue as to anything lore this game so why are they on the island and the stones in their wrists

inland apex
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so if rockwell ends up on the colony ship how does he crash to earth on abberation during the extinction ending? Since the colony ship was already away from earth at that point. I'm thinking maybe abberation replicated him when he somehow made it onto the colony ship just like the arks can replicate other bosses if they are killed. So even though the colony ship version of him is dead there's still another instance of him on earth.

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@tender wasp there almost certainly is as the arks store data of all their survivors but hes no different than any other survivor unless hes exposed to element. Although it could be possible a surviving corrupted rockwell could corrupt the other versions of himself.

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that may have already happened actually remember in the final boss fight rockwell's voice echoes almost as if several people are speaking in his voice. Maybe all the heads in the wall are actually a hive mind of rockwells

warm brook
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it literally says in one of the exp notes that someone forgot to close one of the upload terminals on arat prime ...

inland apex
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uh oh...

warm brook
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read nidas notes

inland apex
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I mean thinking about it I don't think his voice echos anywhere else expect the part with all the heads

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and if they were just extensions of himself why would he have a bunch of heads in the wall unable to attack or do anything

warm brook
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yeah cause he has multiple heads that all talk at the same time ...

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cause he is the ship at that point

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its more important to get more brain for stuff then to attack something since he makes stuff that follows him

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and dont forget the tentacles which are his way of attacking you

tender wasp
inland apex
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yes but if they were just more "meat puppets" he would still only have one mind controlling them all so what would be the point

tender wasp
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And the Arks never saved anything of dead survivors bevor Helena. The survivors that died on the Arks.

inland apex
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also in the trailer he says "where the boundary between the biological and technological is all but erased" this could refer to the arks systems generating biological creatures

tender wasp
inland apex
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yes but it CAN do so since it replicates the bosses and we know from abberation notes some characters found backup clones of themselves and we know rockwell can hack things and he would most likely have access to the database as abberations de facto overseer.

tender wasp
inland apex
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hmm ill reread the notes I could have sworn I remembered they found clones of themselves

tender wasp
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The Arks were more for sorting out the weak and therefore never had a respawn system until Helena made it possible. The ship in contarty needed to respawn people to work the ship and they did not know how long they would need to find a world.

tender wasp
placid knoll
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does everybody know about the massive water expanse under the lakes with megalodons and giant squids

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just wondering if i discovered something i found a hole under one of those massive metal silos
that are in the lakes

strange halo
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Ya everyone knows about that’s lol

bronze turtle
bronze turtle
bronze turtle
tender wasp
bronze turtle
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I understand that but how would we teleport straight to a cryopod. I think its a different survivor but I would like if it were the same one

tender wasp
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And for us it demepends what you decide. YOu still can decide we got uploaded the same way like Rockwell into the sim.. by Helene, may have done it ourseelf.

bronze turtle
tender wasp
bold dove
tender wasp
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At least this is what I guess is what could have happend if you don't decide to be a new survivor. But here still is a lot open you can actually headcanon yourself 🙂

bronze turtle
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True true, I just hope ark 2 is like the early days of ark, new stuff every 2 weeks, no tek and no extremely broken flyers

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Managars and a lot of later game stuff changed the feel of the game too much for me

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Im just hoping none of it comes to the new planet.

tender wasp
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Best balanced in Tek/Creature stuff (Map in general) for me was Aberration at it's time. Not to much Tek, Tek hard to get and I loved the no flyers.

bronze turtle
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the way that the Pteranodon took flight in the trailer for ARK 2 makes it look like it's more physics based

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the Pteranodon actually dips a little down rather than just flying up right off the bat unrealistically

tender wasp
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Reallistically a Pteranodon would never be able to carry a human.

bronze turtle
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yeah

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unless the human is like, tiny

tender wasp
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I think even a Quez would not have been able.

bronze turtle
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Quetzals are absolutely massive though

tender wasp
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yeah but light built.

bronze turtle
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they sure as hell couldn't pick up a Mammoth is all I know

cloud rock
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Lol

heady nymph
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I don’t know how to do spoiler tags, so... Spoilers.

I need to know what happened to Nida after Gabriel threw her the thing... Also the Santiago we see at the end of Gen 2 knows he’s respawned more than once

cloud rock
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I really need to look up the entire lore of ark.

tender wasp
ornate hull
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so i know how the implant works but how does it actuality craft stuff

bitter crater
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since y'all usually seem more appreciative of this mess (and also i need to remind Ares to write info on lore), i wonder what changed here

tender wasp
bitter crater
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also i see i fucked up on low res

left grove
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Ive had a question, how did we got into the genesis ship, and how did rockwell went from the abb ark, that landed on earth after ext, to the genesis ship

left grove
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-_-

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so we just mery shu our way into the ship, got it

ornate hull
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He probably beamed himself onto it

bold dove
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'OR' we're just a new character.
Again, open ended.

ornate hull
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What if we're rockwell

left grove
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ok no

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thats too much XD

bronze turtle
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what would be the side effects of implanting a platform into the heart of an Element powered monster

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asking for a friend OwlWat

zenith ginkgo
urban stone
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heart go boom

gleaming otter
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Hey @bold dove Did you ever find out how we got on the ship?

gleaming otter
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So we decide?

whole spire
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@frigid latch i need to talk with you 🥺

wind oar
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why is scorched earth map lore inacurate?

grim schooner
real portal
# wind oar why is scorched earth map lore inacurate?

Scorched's lore is inacurate it just has things we didn't see in the game that we do now. The idea was that they would come back to it after sometime polishing the base island and whatever else but because it came out while ark was still in beta(please correct me if I'm wrong) it got ignored and they just worked on finishing the island by adding ascension, polishing a few things, adding tek stuff, and working on Aberration, they then said we're not adding ascension to SE and were moving on meaning that a lot of info seems inaccurate but it's not.

pliant wren
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@left grove it’s established that a connection was left from arat prime to the genesis simulation/ship, it’s how hlna is involved and the same way Rockwell gets there, from what we can understand from the lore Helena sends us into the simulation so we can follow Rockwell, weather that means like Santiago there are now multiple survivors, since that body we wake up in on the genesis ship was always on the genesis ship, I’m thinking there multiple, unless Helena was like, imma turn you entirely into data so I can upload you into another version of you’s body

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So either there’s two survivors or Helena with homodeus shenanigans makes it so that we are entirely transferred

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I prefer the two survivors idea, since it makes a neat parallel between the original survivor Helena and the duplicate and hlna

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A kind of echo of their relationship

regal heart
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@pliant wren I really wish we could have seen seat prime.

heady nymph
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One disturbing trend I’m starting to see is people romanticising Rockwell because of “Helena” moment and I’m just like eww no, have you not read what this man did to other people for his “science” and eventually his sadism? Ick

pliant wren
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People tend to be like that when they view a redemption, even though in this case it wasn’t really that, just a man seeing an old friend turned enemy in an echo as he was scared to die

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And I mean reading all his notes start to finish you see the decline of a man, who was once as Helena saw him

tender wasp
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It is more like that H-LNA (or Helena) knew who he once was and even by what he became and what he did forgives him in some way and comforts him in his last minutes of life. Like a friend she once saw in him and understanding that his fear of death did lead into all he did.

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So not only rescuing the ship but also rescuing Rockwell from what he has become could be a reason Helena maybe has send us to the ship.

amber moat
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I dare one of u to explain the entire story of ark

ornate hull
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we do that like every hour here

tender wasp
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We allways explain a lot of the story here lol.

oak root
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dollie also pinned a couple things for you to read if you would like Emanation

ornate hull
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only if dollie would pin the cursed loreSAD

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im gonna learn how to play the gen 2 credits on piano and make everyone cry

carmine oyster
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Do we know the reason as to why the genesis ship was sent into space

hot dust
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imagine

bold dove
ornate hull
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because its not cursed lore

tender wasp
# carmine oyster Do we know the reason as to why the genesis ship was sent into space

The ship was sent into space around the same time the Arks were launched. The ship was the second solution to deal with the corruption on Earth that started to get out of hand after the war between Feds and URE. Arks and reseeding earth was the plan of the URE mostly and the ship and finding a new planet was the plan of the Feds mostly but both factions did work hand in hand at the end.

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Also Nida's note make it pretty obvious that the ship is allready in space for centuries ant least.

bold dove
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Probably got auto-deleted by the bot

tender wasp
bold dove
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We like "cursed" lore.
Not lore from a 5 year old talking about cocks. poglinFuego

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Not directed at you.
Just directed at........uoy?

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You know the anus door?

junior phoenix
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wtf is happening in this channel

bold dove
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The point of that anus door to actually be in the roof in-game. And to leak out smiley shit out of it. (Yes, this is actually in-game. And has teeth)
But imagine if it could fucking 'chew' you.

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That leaks out slime

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And who knows what that slime is. 👀

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It kinda got a creamy tint to it. poglinFuego

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Now "THAT'S" cursed lore.

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.....
You have white shit? veggies

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That ain't shit. 👀

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I 'am' space-anus. 👀

tender wasp
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I hate you Spartan... now I never ever want to go to the flesh biome again.. I can't get that pic out of my head now.. XD

warm brook
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@drowsy lance please remove him

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disocrds tos say you need to be 13 to use it you just admitted to be 6 good bye

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doesnt matter

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you made a legal statement and now this server as well as discord can be sued for leaving yoiu in here

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ok back to good lore any new theories ?

drowsy lance
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oh I didn't even see the age thing, I'll make a note of it. tyty genie

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theorieeeeeeeeessssssssss

whole spire
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@frigid latch You here?

lament ridge
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wtf

whole spire
hard parrot
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is there a place to read all of the notes yet

warm brook
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wiki ?

hard parrot
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i went there but didn't realize there were two more clicks i had to make. thanks

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i'll be glad when we can get some videos to put all of the new stuff in some kind of order. sometimes this channel is impossible to keep up with

ornate hull
unreal nest
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Looking for small tribe mates fresh start dm me with stats

carmine oyster
tender wasp
# carmine oyster If thats the case, then how did rockwell and the survivor get one it, it eould h...

That is open to you but it is stated in the notes, that the ship is in orbit for centuries at least and that it has launched around the time when the Arks did. It is also stated that a connection from Arat prime to the ship was left open and this could be a possible way Rockwell got on it by uploading his data to it.. same could have happend with our survivor. But it is stated the ship was allready long gone, when the arks came back to earth.

bronze turtle
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Spartan I didn't get Rockwell anus pics

urban stone
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Not completely sure, but weren’t the arks made and lead by the URE, while the Federation made the ship, meaning the two sides of the war each had made plans to ensure the survival of humanity? Though iirc, they did help each other on some stuff

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The federation basically giving up on earth, and URE not

flint mulch
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what the heck happened to earth, didnt they fixed it?

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theres no way the earth is still fixed, all arks landed into earth, including abb, where rockwell was

urban stone
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Well, landed arks are supposedly cleansing the earth from element, I doubt Rockwell would somehow stop all of the arks around the planet, so I guess he just decided it wasn’t worth it, and instead took the opportunity to find another planet by hijacking the ship?

flint mulch
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so the earth is still fixed? but why there are survivors along with the ship?

urban stone
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The ship was launched around the same time of the arks iirc, it is also stated that it’s been searching for centuries, meaning it probably wasn’t launched after the player beats extinction

cosmic knot
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ok yeah screw my theory that makes alot more sense

urban stone
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The planet is corrupted because of a war between two fronts, but the two fronts seems to have made their own plans to ensure humanity’s survival, one having made the ark, and the other having decided to find a new habitable planet, is what I’m thinking

flint mulch
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i believe that when arks landed, rockwell kidnapped the ship

urban stone
flint mulch
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hmmmm ok that does make sense tho

urban stone
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I believe that this could also be how we too got on the ship, being that Helena uploaded us?

flint mulch
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tbh i still dont know much about ext lore, i know that helena became a homo deus and created the revive system, but dk much more

shadow kindle
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ball

tender wasp
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It is up to us how we/Rockwell got on the ship but it is stated an uplink to the ship was left open, so upload could be an option.. for Rockwell and us.

urban stone
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Well, if it is an uplink / connection, then it’s hell of a signal it would probably take, if the ship had already been searching for centuries?

flint mulch
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its said that the earth is abandoned much more time than we lived into it

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i would consider like 400k years, since its stated that we exists for about over 200k years

urban stone
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Lol

thorn canopy
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Hey guys 👋

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How’s Gen 2 ? I just started playing it today

ornate hull
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Its awsome

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Maps alot more fun then gen 1

thorn canopy
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I confirm

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It’s the best dlc so far

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Especially for SP, you feel that you aren’t alone

bronze turtle
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it feels like HLN-A talks a little less on Gen2 than on Gen1 idk

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but I love Gen2 so far, got big big plans, new Garden base I'll be building soon, taming a couple R-Reaper Kings, getting R-Gigas and breeding them to get the ultimate mutated Giga

urban stone
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Well, she was your guide on Gen1, plus it’s probably more cuz of the amount of glitches, etc in gen1?

bronze turtle
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loving the music for Gen2 and I especially love Rockwell Battle Suit, it's a complete bop

urban stone
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sometimes I seriously wonder how autocorrect thinks on is ok

bronze turtle
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it doesn't think, autocorrect is stupid

urban stone
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The composer did an amazing job with the soundtracks

bronze turtle
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Gareth is great

urban stone
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Yeah

bronze turtle
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all the music for Gen2 is phenomenal

urban stone
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I especially love the gen 2 theme

bronze turtle
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it's good