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Oof did you watch Ned’s video?
look up
yes
There was a spoiler warning
i know i never expected the ending being featured
the ending was sad when rockwell said he was afraid
Question for ark lore nerds. At the end of extinctions the arks including abberation came to earth. If I'm not mistaken the life boat was sent out before the arks came home so how is rockwell on it?
If someone knows I would appreciate an @ with the answer since I'm not in this chat often
Most plausible is that he went to Arat Prime and uploaded himself to the ship and dowloaded himself in a new body there.
So they can update extinctions ending, but can't give us an ending to scorch? Smh riot time
aight thanks Ares
Ikr
They changed the extinction ending and now Helena sounds like a godlike being
The old ending was much better all they did was change the voices
I can’t really tell the difference between the old extinction ending and the new one
The voices sound the same imo
Lol
In general ppl are taking about maewinga
Do we ever get a answer in the explorer notes
Explaining why they can breed even though they are genderless
Genderless is not the same as not beeing able to reproduce. Snails also have no gender and can reproduce.
I was saying that could prob still reproduce even without a gender but ppl didn't listen to me so I just thought I was wrong
Yeah but some people sadly want en explanation for every bit and don't even try to think a bit and also don't really listen or read ^^
I mean what
Snails in game can reproduce? Is this an update
Snails in general.. did not talk about the Ark snails.
i havent finished note reading but it looks like we may have a new rockwell
||Gabriel ?||
Nah
it could be the giga in code red
Do we know what the Arrival is?
its when something arrvies
🙃
The arrival?@bitter barn
The Arrival that Helena and HLN-A talks about in Genesis
For when the genesis ship arrived at its intended destination
Ya pretty sure he didnt survive the ship exploding
Especially after that ending if he lives then 😑
Hey when you beat extinction on alpha there is Rockwell roar
So how did he get on the ship
Uploaded himself from Arat Prime probably.
"Maybe I shouldn't be leaving a record of this, but I think someone left a superluminal link open back to Arat Prime that one of them used to find us out here- one of the... Homo deus." -Nida
Uh I'm not a lore need I have no idea what that means I only saw needy the noodles video and Darth souls video
i cant relly find to much lore online so do you guys know the lore
Yes
We do
Question, in the end of I think, gen 1, it says helena and mei-yin would be back, but I've just seen the end to gen 2, and I didn't see mei anywhere?
Will she be in ARK 2?
Or were they planning on adding her, and just didn't?
One thing befuddled me, what/where is Arat Prime, earth?
I think the opposite side of the world from where we start off
yep, opposite side of the world to extinction
Yes u can
aberration ark crashed nearby, rockwell went there and took over genesis
Arat prime is a location on earth then?
Oh, I thought it was a planet or something.
« I don’t want to Go »
I had a theory about Aberration being a valguero ark that get partially destroyed and then corrupted by sun radiation + elements leak
« What if Valguero is Aberration ?
In valguero we have an aberration biome with aberrant creatures and many other things from the DLC.
What if Aberration was a Valguero ARK, but one of the atmosphere pillars was broken.
Radiations from Sun & Element turn Deinonychus into RockDrake. Some Titan Boa into Basilisk
...etc
Don't know if it's true, if it was intended by the developpers, but I love this theory »
Rockwell then came to this broken Ark and used his element boosted powers to create thoses nameless shit & reapers
The Custom-ARK's aren't canon from the dev's standpoint.
then what is it
You want a summary?
This might take a bit to write
Okay.
A meteor crashes into Earth (in the future), containing a strange material we call Element.
Two main factions fight over this material, named the URE and Terran Federation.
I’m not sure if there were more than two, but the story only features 2
Turns out the material is sentient.
And is a virus like lifeform
You also forgot the part that Element 'literally' broke our understanding of the universe
Oops
And Element starts corrupting the Earth, mostly because the century-long war over it made it get out of control
There’s pure element and non-pure element. Non-pure is contained and controlled, and is considered “safe”. Pure element is very dangerous and a pinkish-purple.
(might’ve mixed them up)
So the URE and Federation make peace to try and save humanity
The URE creates the ARKs, space stations that float above the Earth, meant to reseed and eventually free the Earth from corruption.
The Island is one example of an ARK
And the Terran Federation makes the Genesis Simulation and colony ship, which is supposed to find a habitable planet and start a new world.
Genesis Part 2 is on the colony ship.
Technically, also Genesis 1
Yeah
Is everything I said correct?
oh well
continuing the summary
So these beings of Element, called Titans, started controlling the Earth
This made the ARKs unable to reseed.
Which is why us, the survivors, have to defeat the Titans on Extinction.
Fast forward a shit ton of years, Helena and some of other main explorer note characters wake up on the Island
this summary is very disorganized, I’m sorry
Those characters ascend to new ARKs, with Helena and Rockwell (an old british man) ascending to Scorched Earth, and Mei Yin (chinese warrior) ascending to Aberration with Nerva’s (Roman general) corpse.
This is when Rockwell begins to go insane over Element.
He ends up poisoning an entire tribe because of it.
rude ( 🍿 )
Fast forward, Helena and Rockwell both ascend to Aberration and meet Mei Yin (again)
They meet the tek survivors, an advanced tribe that broke Aberration by nuking the Overseer
Rockwell ends up injecting himself with pure Element
He mutates into a weird tentacle monster and kills most of the tek survivors
The remaining survivors force Rockwell into the depths of Aberration
Since the ARK is missing an Overseer, it choses him as it’s new Overseer
Making Rockwell the final boss of Aberration
Helena, Mei Yin, and a couple tek survivors (Including the Federation hacker Santiago) use a gateway they made to get off of Aberration and onto the Earth (aka Extinction)
Titans hunt them down and Santiago sacrifices himself to save the remaining survivors
Helena inserts a special prism into her implant, transforming her into a Homo Deus
As a Homo Deus, she revives Diana, a tek survivor from Aberration who was Mei Yin‘s partner
Helena tells Mei and Diana to go to Arat Prime
That’s the last thing we’ve heard from Mei and Diana iirc
And finally, we come in.
Our survivor follows the explorer note’s writers footsteps, going from the Island, to Scorched Earth, to Aberration, and Extinction.
We supposedly save the Earth by killing the Titans on Extinction and letting the ARKs reseed.
However, Aberration crashes down onto the Earth, which may have messed the protocol up.
When Ab crashed, it released Rockwell, who seeks revenge on us and Helena.
And now: Genesis.
Rockwell begins to try to take control of the Genesis simulation.
Our survivor and HLN-A, a fractal personality created by Helena (HLN-A has the personality of Helena when she was still human.) ruin Rockwell’s plans by defeating the Master Controller and leaving the simulation
In Genesis part 2, we explore the Fed colony ship, which is being taken over by Rockwell.
He has taken over the first ring, which is now Rockwell’s Garden.
Inside his garden are his innards, which was made when he started mutating further to control the ship.
Gen 2 ending spoilers:||In the end, we kill Rockwell (Losing HLN-A in the process) and save the habitable planet that the ship found from Rockwell’s corruption. ||
Lets hope they're still around. And you didn't just spend all of that time for no reason.

Did I get at least most of it right?
I skipped over a shit ton of info but it’s just a summary
That was probably the best summery I've heard
I have a question
In the end of I think, gen 1, it says helena and mei-yin would be back, but I've just seen the end to gen 2, and I didn't see mei anywhere?
Will she be in ARK 2?
prob ye
Keep in mind, the survivor in the genesis dlcs is not the same one from the island through to extinction. iirc
mhmm
At least in lore
bro the Garden is scary
lightning everywhere, idk if it hurts you or structures or anything but I stay away from it just incase
Where does it ever say that?
iirc it was confirmed by one of the community managers?
No?
It was confirmed 'otherwise' by Cedric in the Extra-life stream back in 2019. For Genesis 1.
And even that's still vague. Since they're a "Community" manager. They have no parts in the story at all.
Explains why it doesn't make sense like how the fuck did you go from earth to the ship
That's actually is left for the player to decide
It's still my theory I wasn't saying he was right
They left enough wiggle room in the lore for the 'players' to decide the fate of Earth, after the events of Extinction.
And if they're the same survivor, or not.
Doesn't make logical sense how you go from earth to a spaceship
Arat-Prime
That happened before the earth ever died?
And this is ARK we're talking about. Logic has been thrown out of the window
True doubt they thought this far ahead
Same way Rockwell got onto the ship
That's not what i mean at all.
Element 'literally' broke logic in the ARK universe.
But the ship was launched before the world "ended"
And who to say that Helena. A now literal god, couldn't just transfer us onto the ship.
Same with the arks and I mean I guess
Rockwell was able to transfer onto the Genesis-ship. That's how he got onto it. Which i believe confirms this in the new notes.
If Rockwell, a simple flesh man can transfer onto the ship. Then i think we can too.
Again. There's enough wiggle room for both ends.
They probably left the fate of Earth fully unknown. Cause they're done with the Sol-System.
The story for the fate of Earth ended in Extinction. The Genesis maps acted more like a Epilogue, and a bridge for ARK 2.
Whether you're the same survivor, or not. Is up to you.
Mei-Yin and Diana are long dead, and ||Helena and Rockwell, and HLN-A are also -- recently -- dead.||
We likely will not see them again, even in ARK 2. That said, ||Santiago respawned for like the 4th time, so we WILL see him in ARK 2. It's a long story how he got to respawn so many times but not the others.||
Another thing
The genesis survivor is a terran federation colonist clone waking up from their pod
The survivor on the arks and extinction is a URE clone
In the end of gen 1 it said that mei would be back, why would they tell us something that's not true?
They may have been hinting at ark 2
shes in a comma?
Thats not how it works... the colonists arent solely comprised of federation people, in gen 1 there is a glitch that talks about a mongolian (i think) that was shocked by the genesis simulations sights
That was for abs ending, it never got taken out.
I mean people cloned by the URE or the Terran Federation
That was accident on their part, I believe.
Left behind from Aberration's credits
At least that's what I was told
There is pretty much no reason to believe Mei-Yin and Diana are still alive when it's been probably thousands of years that the colony ship has been flying through space
Fair enough, but still it is left open on if its the same survivor... how I play it in my head is its the same mind put in a different body, like santiago
That could be a possibilty, kinda disappointed we'll never know
Thats the point, not knowing
So you can decide
Also hi lore peeps, stopped by real quick as I expected it would be more tame and less spoilers by now... gonna get goin now lol
Santiago on the ship is not the same like the on on Abs/Ext. Both originate from the original Santiago Data /which were saved some time after the Element war and Ship had a copy and the Arks had a copy of this version of him. The ship so altered his memories, grew him a new body and maybe even altered his personality. A reason why he is on the ship. He knows nothing about Abs/Ext Santiago or what that Santiago did. 2 different persons.
WIth Rockwell, I would say, he went to Arat prime and was able to upload himself into the Gen Sim and started tocorrupt frome there and respawned in a body there, even his cause he was in the data bank there as well.
For our survivor, I think if you decide it is the same like on the Arks, that Helena did put our Data in so we have all our memories. Most plaussible for myself but still a lot of plot-holes.
Death is never the end as the arks have pulled matrix of the survivors from different times even when they have been dead for thousands of years. So if Santiago got to respawn multiple times there's no way we can definitely say that rockwell or Mei-Yin or Diana are dead in ark 2
But in one of the Gen 2 notes of Santiago he mentions data on the ship of a warrior-queen, might be a hint to Mei but also could be nothing. But if, it will not be the same Mei like on the Arks.
He did know he respawned again, so he does have some sort of memories. If one gets respawned 2nd time his words would be -that must have been a dream/nightmare. But him saying respawned again means he knows he died at least twice
I caught that too. She wouldn't have any memory of Helena, etc.
if she was brought back, which isn't necessarily out of the question.
URE shared engrammic matrixes with the feds, I believe -- so... actually possible.
ARK 2 could have a different Mei-Yin.
He knows he respawned because he allready is a clone of the Original on the ship. He even gets killed in the end of his notes and is aware of it. He is aware he was a clone with altered memories . Ark Santiago only shares the same base Matrix. His Matrix from Abs/Ext never was safed.
Rockwell, Helena... all of them... Could perhaps be brought back, though it depends if the matrixes were in the Fed's storage.
Yep that would be possible but all would be on the state of when they spawned new on the Arks an maybe with altered memories like Santiago. He emntions even 2 survivors he saw that the Feds engeniered with the memories.
While it is sad that people can lose memories once they die, it sortof makes it a bit meaningless that basically all of the characters we know are just uploaded in some database and can be brought back willynilly.
The URE seemed to have kept the original memories mostly unaltered (but only my guess) cause on the Ark it was all about who fits best for survival.
Definitely takes away a significant amount of weight to their lives.
I just realized we just kinda ditched Earth
But I'm not sure.
"Alright, Earth has been Corrupted twice now, let's just go somewhere else"
Yeah that bugges me as well. Every death somehow becomes meaningless.
The more logical explanation could be we were all along on the colony ship and were getting trained to start new life ( seed ) on newly explored habitable planet all the while making us feel that arks were real, whereas in fact they were training us for the unknown on the new planet. Arks were used to weed out matrix database of useless people from potential survivors. That would definitely cover how rockwell got into colony ship
Earth still might prosper under Helenas guidance. Feels more like Rockwell got to know of the ship searching for new worlds and saw his chance to become the ultimate god
there are no longer any humans on Earth, just possibly Homo Deus
Rockwell didn't need to leave earth to become god, he could have easily ruled over remaining titans on earth and played god
It is stated in the notes that Ship was the Fed solution and that the Arks were another solution of the UrE that both launched at around the same time.
also tons of creatures that are pissed off
And as soon as the ship took of the ship was on it's own and the Ark were on their own. No connection anymore.
Thats why rockwell getting on colony ship is questionable
And regarding to our survivor WC said it is up to us..
He upladad himself is most logic IMO, no way he could get on the ship in physical form. He was no normal person anymore, partly even comparable to a Homo Deus and there are still plotholes and unlogic stuff in lore.
Yeah it's really unclear how Rockwell got on the ship. The only thing that we can "sci-fi" it being is that he uploaded his consciousness from arat prime to the ship.
Cause it is stated, the ship took off at a similar time when the Arks launched. Nida states they are in space for centuries allready and she got brought back several times, while Rockwell is only on the ship for 3000 days and the ship still had people working on it shortly bevore we spawn in.
Yep or he became SPace squid with hyper jump abbilities XD
I agree with the physical form unable to enter the ship. Obviously all the survivors entering ship would definitely see a purple tentacle man entering.
someone should make an animation of that lmfao
Other question is did they release dinosaurs pods onto the new world or are those dinosaurs native to that place?
I think most were native to the ship, partly engenieered by the crew (like the Maewing) but some like the SHadowmane were altered, made by Rockwell.
Ups did read it wrong.
I meant the ones chasing Santiago in Ark 2 trailer
For the planet, might be both, some from the ship, some from the planet (like the little lizard)
or a space squid that highjacked another super transmitter??
I don't think there was something like that. WOuld make the least sense to me. But they kept this up to our imagination.
did you guys see Rockwell's heart?
curious how he gets enough blood from that, it pumps like once every 10 seconds and it has to supply blood to the entire Innards biome and the boss arena
I thought he didn’t have blood anymore 
I know almost nothing about the innards lmao
He simply may have a pretty slow organism and not the need of a super fast pounding heart anymore 😉
That would make sense, he doesn’t really move at all
He infused liquid element into his blood stream, element packs more energy than anything else
||holy shit the big heads and rockwell’s “children” in the gen 2 final boss are so nightmarish||
i hate them so much
ALso the eyes in the flesh biom allways watch you and even follow you with their gaze XD
Rockwell is hot af ngl
I like the heads
if you have headphones on then you can hear his voice all around you when he's talking
If you think about it rockwell is the physical representation of twitter
i am still bummed when the space dolphin mission is hella bugged in the server i am on
i might not get the boss battle
yes
all of them even gamma
the server even crash when someone completed Survive the ARK
Ok that is somehow shitty.
There’s a workaround for the survive the ark glitch
?
Let a dino kill you I think, after you complete the ”final” wave before it loops
hello im so confused, how does extinction and genesis connect?
bruh
how are we in the ship if we were in extinction and element got cured and sutff, and HLN-A claiming we have been in the ship for ages
They don't explain how we really get on the ship, but most reasonable is that Helena got us there via upload through Arat prime.
hmmmm
Cause phisically not really possible cause the ship left centuries ago around the time when the Arks went into orbit.
true, i was so confused, made me theorize that everything was a simulation along with all the Arks
and how would rockwell be in arat prime as well
upload? xD
Some also say they simply are a new survivor since gen.
Yeah your memories uploaded so you can spawn back in a new body on the ship.
so i guess Rockwell is still a "Survivor" if he got to moved there as well?
i am still confused about the timeline between AB landed on earth and Ship taking off tho since both the ARKs and the shop took off at the same time
So Rockwell basically just said “New map, new me” and ditched his aberration body?
He is different, but we also guess he upladed himself in the Gen simulation and spawned back in. Maybe like he allways got recreated on Abs after beeing defeated as a boss.
ship took off centuries ago
makes sense if it's Rockwell's Engramic Matrix gets transfered instead of his physical body
No ship took of when the Arks got launched into orbit.
The ship was the Fed solution to save humanity and the Arks were the URE Solution.
i know both the ship and the ARK launched at the same time, that makes me confused
a 2 solution plan i see
i guess its just that we can upload our engramic matrix and go everywhere, i think that would explain it
but why would our character go to Arat Prime if we were gonna live happily ever after in extinction xD
Yup and the Feds went to search for a new habital planet and were ins space allready for centuries, Nida states that at some point.
I think we did have not much choice and Helena wanted us to help
weren't the ARKs a giant failure?
the Homo deus Helana?
If the gen ship launched same time as the ark, does that mean rockwell is still alive on earth ??
nope, it worked out in extinction
when Aberration landed it just Corrupted everything again
okay so there are 2 possible cause for the survivor
- we are a new survivor
- Helena somehow yank our engramic matrix from Earth to Gen ship
we saved Earth, and then Aberration landed there and spread the Corruption
Not confirmed. Earth still can be safe and sound under Helenas guidance.
but how?
arent Helena sacrifice herself to become HLNA, the mini-overseer of Gen?
everyone turns into Homo Deus, and basically we got the cure to the Corruption and Element
Cause the Arks simply purfy the Abs part, cause 1 corrupted Ark, vs hundrets of purifiing arks
HLNA is a Ai made by Helena with her memories, but Helena is now a Homo Deus
true
If abb rockwell and gen rockwell arent the same anymore, that would mean Ark 2 we are gonna face rockwell... again
Nope we don't become homo deus
yeah we did, in Extinction
nope
i mean Homodeus becomes overseers so...
for our character that is xD
the implant disappears and is replaced with the Homo Deus thingy
We never become homo Deus. Helena only shows us what happens and removes our implant. We never become Homo Deus.
Data yes but not into homo deus state.
hmmm
it says on the Wiki that the Survivor became a Homo Deus
i still have a feeling that HLNA is our pet overseer
makes kinda sense, to how we get to go to Arat Prime then
the wiki is editable
We never are homo Deus, as Homo deus we wouldnt be able to go back.
Homo Deaus even have no way to go back into human form and we never loose ours. Helena takes away the visible implant and I guess at that point the ability or burden to respawn.
but we still get pulled to Arat Prime xD
It is actually kept pretty open, so it is mostly up to decide for the player.
Then how did Helena get her head back during the Extinction cutscene?
its just how they look
Cause our engramic Matrix gets uploaded.
In one of gen 1’s trailers she doesn’t have a solid head
maybe Homodeus can manifest any part if they wanted to.
I think that was mostly for us to recognize her.
Ah okay
In lore it is stated the can't go back in human form and slowly get more and more lost.
Lol we never saw helena's face as survivor and only heard her voice through HLNA so I don't buy it
have you finished extinction?
Dm me where that is, cause i doubt it's really true.
Also, @Ares#2032 : sad people wearing black suits will contact you over the next few days about updating the lore sections properly on wiki. We need you lol
The keyarts
Yes
Helena is the nice lady on the Raptor of the Ark artwork.
we literally saw her at the end cinematic
Yes but our survivor didn't see her, we saw her
lol. I am allways affraid to update anything on Wiki XD
And as I said it was for us as player so we recognize her, not our survivor
also the one who spawn kill a bob lol
ANd we actually saw her cause Santiago had a pic of her in his Explorer notes on Extinction.
No need to.
Alex I messaged you
And to be fair, the end of Extinction is pretty open.
good night y’all
true
ANd regarding to Wiki I would keep it open and not state if we become Homo Deus or not.
I thought I was the god of lore for this game lmao I was dead wrong about a lot of things
i’m going to bed now
night
Especially with Gen and people wanting the same survivor in it, it makes no sense that we become Homo Deus.
Yep, that's what I want to change it to
The homo deus seem to have no means of reproduction and they are endangered. The completion of tests in a series of ark's help out select the good apples from bad, so i believe we did ascended on Extinction into Homo Deus
Best write something like it is up to decide by the player what becomes of their survivor.
The Arks actually there to save humanity, not Homo Deus. They select the best humans to be able to save Earth and rebuilt it.. not homo Deus.
it also said on the Wiki that Homo Deus built the ARKs
... well fuck. That means I need to do ugly reverts instead
The early form of them, the Tranhumans at a point what I asume they didn't know, what will become of them and it is stated several times that the Arks were made to preserve humanity and live on earth and not to save homo deus.
nvm nvm I just misread something
sorry
ANd even Helena states a lot, that she loses herself as homo Deus, is super alone and she seems very uncompfortable beeing one.. so I doubt she would put such an existance on us.
The humans have gone extinct, only homo deus have remained as seen in island ascension. The homo deus were actually overseeing the arks initially when they lost their memories/ personalities over time. Them having ability to ascend to other arks, tests mean that they have those boss fights for some end goal
actually no xD
I never said they did not oversee the Arks, but the Arks are there to save humanity and live on earth. Homo Deus only took the part to take care of the Arks and ascending is not becoming Homo Deus.. it selects you to beeing a good fit as survivor but that got out of controll.
SO the goal of the Ark was to select the most fitting human, so the people going back to earth would be the best fit to rebuilt it.
But cause of the corruption on Earth the Arks stood in space way to long, the Homo Deus in the Arks partly vanished or totaly lost themseld and the Arks made every bossfight harder and harder and people that Ascended went into an endless loop of going from Ark to Ark, which gots broken by the survivors on Abs, who built the gateway project and finaly ported to earth.
SO end goal of the Arks was "Select out the best fitting humans to repopulate earth"
That's where the major problem of repopulating comes in - the survivors spawning on arks are in someway sterile as there are no children ever. Also biologically, fertility is totally independent of how fit a person is
There are children. Read notes on Scorched earth. So survivors are not steril.
There even might have been children in the Abs tribe but they simply get not mentioned by the Survivors.
Ahh i forgot about the child of the captor of rockwell
and Helena mentions there are children on The Island
Ark 2 has a child with a implant
yes
Might be a hint the child is a clone cause Nida also was a child still (gen 2 notes).
But also Helena states at some point she is the last homo Deus left and so I really doubt we become one. She would not put that on us.
But we do transform for a few seconds into a homo deus look during extinction cutscene when implant is being removed. Also she did enable respawning for survivors in the system- does defeat the purpose of the selection of fittest to revive life on earth
i'm pretty sure the transhumans is between Humans and Homodeus
since it's "transformed"
who knows Transhumans are once super soldiers during Tek War
of what i have seen in the notes, a transhuman looks like a person who is a bit mechanical since you can see in the notes a woman that is transhuman has some short of a suit on her, i think
I think it is some prior state to a later Homo Deus but I might be wrong.
That is not beeing Homo Deus that is simply the effect of getting ported and respawning of Helena also keeps us alive and there is no need of Homo Deus anymore when Earth is saved.
they where very advanced, she was taken out on a hoverskiff trip and she have never been on one before and still knows every trick and skill without being on one before
It keeps us alive but it does not fit with the survival of the fittest to repopulate the earth theory
I got a question regarding Rockwell
This was the case bevore even Helena was a thing. Helena is a special case and has nothing to do what the original homo Deus intended.
Are rockwells summoners and mutated creatures apart of a hive mind like corrupted creatures and the titans, or do they have they're own wills
But lets say the end is open to us and non is fixed, otherwise we will circle in an endless loop
Cause that is what WC states, ends are open and on us to decide.
It probably has to do with two different writers, i don't remember where i read/heard it. The first writer wrote story till extinction, the other one is working on the ones later
I personaly never had the impression we become homo deus like a lot of others. So I think it was intended, we make our own interpretation, even from the old writer and I think it is best to go with that =).
I am still waiting for that space dolphin mission fix for the Controller Players 💀
I just did it on hard for controller, dolphin basically flies itself
For Steam Players
I should try controller on my PC as well for that stuff.
Im on xbox
As long as you use left stick only you should be fine then dolphin wont go third person
Ye but what about shooting?
I just let the dolphin hit the wall 😂
Welp... Banzai i guess
As long as you aim for the rings you are fine
thank your for this resume, you should copy/past it on a doc, so you won't have to retype it in a future
Since both rockwell & King Titan dealt with pure element, It might be a Hive system, just as same as corrupted creatures
....Yeah....that's been confirmed
Element is a hivemind. And the King-Titan was part of it.
Yup
@tender wasp If we upload our survivor from Extinction to Gensis, does that me we followed the same process as rockwell ? :)
I some way yes.
but how you justify data transfer between gen2 and all the other maps?
i like the rest too btw 😄
Same process
If you can Extinction -> GenesisYou surely can Genesis -> Extinction (and othermap aswell from extinction)
Not everything is explained and some stuff still are only game mechanics.
Don't try to explain everything with lore, that will not work but a lot they tried to tie in.
In a data system, if data can go from A to B, unless restricted by administrator, they can go B to A
Story wise you never go back to the other Arks, porting from Ark to Ark is more game mechanics.
I wonder what happens to the survivor after genesis 2's ending, it's interesting to think about
I think this is something they will leave open for us to decide.
Yeah most likely
So it is still possible VD is only a Cameo for our survivor and we are able to switch him out with our survivor.
That would be interesting
But also will depend a bit how long after the crash Ar2 takes place and if that is the intention of WC.
If that doesn't end up being the case I like to think the survivor leads the human race to re build and start over without element
Also how the story will play out.
That's also true
Ark two is gonna be a single player story game right? Or was it gonna be something different?
I think they said it was supposed to similar to 1 gameplay wise , I'm just guessing that the story will be more connected to main gameplay.
It will be sandbox multiplayer and yeah I guess they will try to make it more like Gen 1 & 2
Regarding to gameplay.
Ahh I see
Be interesting to see a separate single-player though
Kind of sad that ark one won't be updated for much longer but I'm glad to see a new game announced hopefully on a more stable engine so they can avoid this games issues
But they should make the missions more interessting and story focused, if they keep them.
And probably optional so people that don't care for story can avoid them, like the notes, you don't need to read them if you don't care for the story.
Yeah
I know a bunch of people that do't care for the story at all.
I love the story personally
When you play through the game with the story in mind and progress through the bosses it makes you feel like you're really the survivor and that you're fighting to save your species and not many games can do that
Story is my main focus on games. Games without any story mostly bore me super fast.
Same here tbh
A reason I also play a lot of singleplayer, cause it is most the time more story focused.
Yeah same however I do like story games with a friend or two sometimes if possible
I don't like being alone. lol
With ark it doesn't really destroy the story aspect that much if you play with a friend as the boss fights are still more or less the same
I do like challenge in games however for games like ark I do like to boost my rates a bit so I'm not sitting there waiting all day for babies to hatch or breeding for weeks
^
It depends on the game, for Ark it is better to play with friends but some games are better played alone. So Dying Light is great with story Coop
Yeah
Like Resident Evil is better played alone, more creepy and shocking this way XD
Oh yeah definitely lol
random lore question: the gen 2 explorer notes talk about "trans humans" are those homo deus?
I guess they are some early stage of homo Deus cause they still have a physical form and they seem super advanced.
Will do
why’d I have 2 pings from here but only 1 message
Probably someone deleted the message they pinged you with
yes
I had to change a little bit because I forgot to include what homo deus and survivors are
woke up to 6 pings from this discord only lmao
yea nevermind on that tho i finished
do we know what happens to ||NIda||?
||Someone mentioned she got killed by Rockwell.||
I wonder if having creatures in your innards is uncomfortable
or if Rockwell doesn’t feel it
I mean, having a dozen reapersand insects walking (and burrowing) inside of you can’t feel good
Maybe they are so small to him it's like your red cells and white cells like he mutated them so it can become his immune system
That’s one weird-ass immune system 
Rockwell is a whole weird-ass thing if you asks me xD
By the way I call it an effective system
Are there any high quality images of the URE or Terran Federation logos?
His Proliferation is described as a gigantic immune system by HLN-A...
I mean the real question is how he got on the ship in the first place
yes
already sent some but if you have some that are better, do send them along
I mean you have trillions of bacteria in your gut but you cant really feel them
and you also can't really feel a tapeworm if you have it as far as I know
True
to be fair, you also don't have eyes in your gut
unless you have gastric teratomas but even then, those eyes aren't functional
I mean yeah, but you know, Rockwell is weird
and like, a living spaceship still would barely tickle at a titanosaur walking around
rockwell is definitely overly aware of everything in there
no matter where you go, he will always be watching, and extremely aware of you
Ima have to agree with that theres literally a biome made of him
I regret looking that up 
when i say teratoma don't look that up
I am so sorry
Too late
they are nightmare fuel
teratomas are pretty fascinating and good for any inspiration if you want to draw the meat biome
but I doubt anything you can do physically to the ship except in the boss fight that could in any way harm rockwell asides from literally nuking the surface of the ship
a teratoma is a tumour that can have fully developed tissues and organs like teeth, eyes, hair, muscle, bone
i wouldn't be surprised if Wildcard took inspiration from these
I think a few on record had livers, I am not suere about that
They did a great job on makeing the biome creepy and nasty asf
its an amazing biome I like it a lot, job well done
Kina easy to libe down there tho just fly above the summoners and go get a reaper easy
some things in the biome represent nipples and i'm out here like. "first of all good job on making it creepy. second of all what the hell wildcard."
wait for real? what happened to the butthole??
Got a 168 on our server lastnight its growing up rn im at work. Got a nanny going tho
I saw some buttholes
many buttholes
U cant go in them tho
one of the buttholes launches you and sets you on fire
of course
I tried😂. What one does that lol
a single one in the middle room
There are a few anusses, one im sure comes water or whatever that may be from
of course they did that, I want to see them now
on the floor, it spews gas. of course wildcard. of course
Ahhh ok. I tried punching rockwells eye
you can't have an ark DLC without a funny doodoo fart joke
It just blinked at me and kinda cereped me out
it's the law
Facts
if you look at them real close, you can see the veins in the eyes pulsating
The details.. they put so much effort in this map im loving it
genesis 2 is the best DLC hands down
Agreed
i thought nothing would beat ab
boy was i wrong
i saw that
This is straight fax
I kind of like Ab more
Barely
It has more variation imo
Gen 2 is an amazing map, but it’s mainly 2 big areas, and the whole eden ring looks almost exactly the same
As a whole Gen 2 has more variation than Ab
The Garden is basically just Blue Zone
Eden is supposed to be close to Earth as possible, no need to be fantastical like CI
Yeah I know
I just prefer the fertile zone, blue zone, and red zone over the eden, garden, and lunar
I Dont mind the Val vibes of Eden
Innards is the best, no doubt
M e a t B i o m e
ABB is the best dlc Gen 2 has one of the best dlc maps
ive barely played abberation, spend most of my time on the island on ragnarok. im probably missing out
You’re missing out on a lot
100% agree
@merry cipher
||helena
I'm afraid||
oi. tag yer spoilers
but yes pain 
Oop srry bout that
sad
Yes death everywhere
seems like you can just fly over anything that aggros you
also free R-Reaper if you do it smart
I'll probably head over there soon actually, easy mutagen and mutagel
When a noglin controls you, does it only make you punch?
Or can it make you walk and jump?
A wild noglin, not tamed
If you are holding a weapon, it will shoot it.
I was holding a hatchet and it make me unequip it
It will also make you move around. You do not have any control when it gets you.
Tools might be different. It definitely made me shoot the Tek Bow and the Net Gun.
I guess it was glitched or something, all it did to me was unequip my hatchet and punch
didn’t turn or move at all
It might have been glitched then. Or your character was actually stuck somehow. But, it made me chase the nearest person or creature.
Hi my lore enthousiast friends
:)
How?
I still need to get me a Nogling and a R-Reaper.
Go around 50,30 or enter boss mission cave to find one then build a 12 gated pen and put carbos in there and drop in the noglin 🙂
nooblets
I hope I find one bevore it finds me XD
Yeah stay on the skiff at all times ahaha
also I need to get me Carbos first XD. I have none atm.
They don’t even have to be high lvl tbh due to their tankyness they’re the best for it
8-10 @tender wasp thats how many we used
@tender wasp watch out for the plants aswell one hit knockout bring a tek bow and use flame arrows two shots them
Its intended this hit box for the meawing to get berrys?? Soo weird!
Hello 
Will we ever get a scorched cutscene 
Doubt it
The map wasn't suppose to exist. So doubtful
They said multiply times they planned on it
Yeah.
Like 'THREE' years ago
They have bigger plans now. On a whole new title.
Scorched is also a pretty dead map in the general playerbase. So by the end of the day. It's not worth it in a business standpoint.
Spoiler warning: gen 2
||it’s so bright!
Helena…?
I’m afraid!||
^this made me cry

I think I noticed some important details from gen 2 ending. ||When Rockwell is dying the ship has not begun to blow up yet but he says "It's so bright." There is nothing at that point causing light. He then says "Helena..?" The use of the question mark seems important like he is surprised to see her. Finally he says "I'm afraid." I think Helena showed up there. Homo Deus' glow and his confusion to see Helena would make sense. Also seeing the women you thought was dead that tried to kill you years ago while your dying would be terrifying||
Legit fucking gasped
Amazing theory thing whatever it is
Thanks! Another quick thing I felt was worth mentioned but I feel is a bit more obvious||Given the fact he responded to the name Edmund which he dropped when he became the monster also suggests towards the end the element was no longer influencing him and Sir Edmund Rockwell, the 19th century scholar was speaking, not Rockwell the monster.||
||The ship’s glowing in the middle though, that’s probably why he said that it was so bright||
||If he is still alive I feel that really lessens the impact of the gen 2 ending though. Maybe he is with Helena now as a Homo Deus or maybe he survived the crash and will be an easter egg of sorts somewhere in ark 2. I just really want more David Tennant.||
||While same, I think it'll be better if he's dead||
||We’ve had enough Rockwell||
yeah, just some things I noticed. ||If he does make it somehow he should be a super minor thing. Like a little old man in a cave in ark 2 barley holding on.||
Don't want rockwell to become taniks from destiny now
"How are you still alive?"
"I have no idea"
Or just a skeleton in a cave..
I mean it could literally just be any skeleton tbh
yeah, I feel that is likely and would be best but if he was alive he could still talk a little.
I think a skeleton in a pool of molten element with tentacles all around it would be easy to identify
Either way I'm literally willing to pause my dnd stuff. I want to write an ark story sooo badly
One time my friend asked me to explain the story of ark and next thing I knew I had written eleven pages on the island alone
Idk if we can advertise like that but assuming we all like reading I've been keeping up with this amazing ark fanfic, really well written
Someone asked me for a summary here and I spent an hour writing it
Just a summary
Gives me a bit of a game of thrones vibe, although my only issue is that some aspects of the game arent in it
I absolutely despise writing I have no idea how that happened. I had a minor operation a few days later which required anesthesia and apparently I talked about it a bit.
Oh interesting, may I ask what it was for?
Endoscopy, was having stomach issues. They didn't find anything but I seemed to have recovered completely and out of nowhere despite the issue lasting months. It was actually the same day gen 2 came out that it disappeared. I got super sick that day and now no longer have the issue.
he said that it was bright as soon as the ship began exploding
Helena actually cured you irl. Glad you're alright tho^^
The ship exploded after/right as he said his final final line.
Yeah tbh I like your theory
dont want to spoil what it was. The explosion starts when he says the 2 words.
Doesn't he normally refer to hnla as puppet and shit normally?
yeah
there were a few explosions when Rockwell said that it was bright
arrogant, witless, insignificant are some of the things he calls her.
the core of the ship didn't exactly explode when that was happening but there were many explosions across the ship
Yes but not in a place he would've seen them. I guess he could've had eyes somewhere else but all his eyes and heads that we know of are in his innards or the bridge and neither of those places had begun exploding
the area where the Survivors were being held (like in the spawning cutscene) had eyes
only like 4, though
And it was broken apart
yeah
What really sells it for me or makes it a possibility at least is the fact and way he says ||Helena.|| He seems very confused but almost relieved as well.
Edit: ||Also HLN-A says "who knows maybe to lost souls can meet again amongst the stars." Which immediate makes me think of Helena and how she just shows up to people. Either referring to her return to the survivor, Rockwell or maybe even Santiago.||
On a completely different note is there anywhere that I can listen to all of Rockwell's lines? I thought they would have a spot in the explorer notes but they don't.
Does anyone on xbox have the hunt missions for gen 2
They dont show up at all on my singleplayer
When I can get a hold of Ark on a stable PC, I plan to release a video on all of the Rockwell lines, for I too like to listen to them (Tennant simp here, dont mind me lol) He's an interesting character.. I'll let you know if I find anything though!
Alright thanks! Honestly I am mostly wanting it for Tennant's performance as well.
Tennant is absolutely amazing. I actually cried at Rockwell's death for a good hour or two over the phone with my crush lmao
I'm actually writing a story of my main character that I play with based on the adventures she's experienced, and I totally didn't decide to make her one of Rockwell's followers.. guity as charged
She reads his journals and becomes obsessed with his findings n stuff and ultimately becomes one of his followers
Cheesy, but fitting for my taste
||Rockwells line "I am .. affraid." sounds for me more like he his affraid to die, like he does now one of the reasons he became a "god" cause he did not want to die. Reminds me a lot of Arthur Morgan who says exactly tha same to a nun knowing that he will die of Tubercolsis.||
||For H-LNA "Two souls will meet again..." is directed at us and her goodbye to us and that we might meet her again, more like some comforting words, so we don grief to much. Sounds like "We will meet again, in this life or another." ||
For me its diffrient every time. ||Sometimes its that, sometimes its Helena, sometimes its HLNA saying she knew and sometimes its HLNA saying edmund.||
honey the big tentacle dude died 

So just finished GEN 2...man, this is one the best games I ever playued, but I am left with a few questions, I prefer to gather notes and lore on my own without videos, but I do have some questions, do you people have any idea how the explorers ended up on arks ? where they also clones like the survirors or ?
I guess
Yes made me cry
||Most likely our engammic matrix we had at the end of Extinction (the data saved in our Arm) gots uploades from Arat prime (by Helena maybe) and we spawn in a new body on the ship after freeing ourself from the Gen 1 Sim. Cause the survivors on the ship (like Santiago) are not the same surviors like the one on Abs/Ext. Actually two clones from the same base (original Santigo from the Element war).||
@tender wasp } I got that, my only question is, how did the explorers land on the arks, as they were from separate peirods of time, mei, san, rock etc |
how do you add spoiler tag
Wasn’t he from abb as the electrician working into the obs?
Hacker, hacking the Obs yes.
Yea I forgot what tribe it was from but in the notes from what I remember Helena had just se and meet one of the worriers from island right?
||They actually made engramic Matrixes from dead people they found (DNA I guess that still was enough to do so) and saved them in a Data base for the Arks (The ship and the Arks had two sepperated data bases that were not connected in the end). From that Data base they did load the matrixes into new grown bodies and put that people on the Arks.||
For spoiler tags. Mark your writen text, hover over it and click the eye
||Ok||
@tender wasp ||Ok, good I was thinking similar, but all explorers, hen, rock, mei, nerva had their own original conscience and mind, they were themselves ||
Helena actually met all of them. So on the Island she meet Mei Yin and Rockwell.. and later on ABs she also meets the Tek tribe people.
||On the Arks I supose yes, on the ship Santiago's memories, maybe even body and personality (not sure on the last two) were altered and changed.||
||Ah yes I remember Rockwel and mei||
so many questions :)). I don't know I feel I owe it to this great story to fully try to understand everything, @tender wasp ||why were their memories altered on the ship in gen 2||
||Cause they wanted to optimize people and not having them distracted by their past I guess and in Santaigo's case, he was a terrorist and well know hacker stealing data in the Element war between Feds and URE and he did a lot of not so nice stuff. I guess they don't wanted him to remember that and someone easier to handle and to control.||
||It is even mentioned in the notes they altered memories of other people as well and grew them new bodies.||
||The Arks so feel more like "Keep the originals and see who fits best for survival" while the ship is more like "Alter memories to make people fit in better and beeing a perfect colonist/worker on the ship."||
That makes sense, thank you for the answer
No problem 🙂
||Also regarding the Artwork in the notes, the cloned people look kinda different to the original ones but might also be some inconsistence of the artist but also might be wanted.||
Hello, over the last few years, a new and nearly full set of bones for the Spinosaurus has been found and pushed to the world. I am attaching a very detailed video analysis that has all sorts of background resource links as well. I bring it here as the Spino is loved. The tail is thinner/taller and was used for propulsion while swimming. Much love to the updates. But maybe a refresh of this dino for Ark2? For the link below, I removed the slashes etc and you can rebuild the link from the info given.
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||but it never says that? ould there be a possibility that she is the child in the ark two trailer?||
||I think Rockwell mentions, he killed her but I only heard it from someone else. So the child still could be her if she also got cloned again like Santiago at the end. ||
||wait did santiago prematurely wake up? before he got cloned again, and with Gabriel what really happened to him?||
||Nah he wakes up as secret ending after the Gen 2 Ending. Full grown up.||
||And Gabriel seems have died cause he got controlled by a Nogling.||
||Nida allways was a child even on the ship. At least when she wrote the notes she was still a kid and seemed to have cloned several times allready. Cause she allways talkes about escaping that routine and that the ship must be allready traveling for Centuries.||
||ah so i believe that she is the kid for number one, if he dosent wake up prematurely then how do we have notes frome him and no not the nogglin did gabe start getting someone elses memmories?||
||Nah the nogling made Gabriel hearing voices and Santiago was on the ship, helping to built it. He got cloned (memories altered, maybe even body an personality) for that porpous centuries ago. That is when he wrote the notes on the ship. He gets killed at the end of the notes (he describes it himself) and his memories stored away on the ship by Uma. He is not a clone of Abs/Ext. Santiago. ||
||Santiago not gets "spawned" when we are still in the game, he gets spawned in the secret ending, when the ship starts to crash (The ring) as link to Ark2.||



trying to understand. are transhumans and homodeus the same?
Pretty sure that they’re a early form of homo deus
ok
@frigid latch is on?
Hes not here i think
Caillou
@frigid latch
Hello who wants to join me as I loudly bawl and cry to the Genesis II ending
I cried while listening to the credits music. That shit had me so sad but so happy at the same time
What about an animated series 😉
🎉 Coming 2022 🎉
can’t wait, it’s going to be so awesome
🦖

Yeah.
That's what the animated series is.
Hmm we don't know how far they're gonna hold but yeah. Still, a movie about a civilization destroyed by its own invention, sending giant space stations into orbit to survive... that would be cool. They should do it the same way they made cinematic trailers for the island, aberration and extinction, animated series is gonna be cool though for sure
This man hasnt heard of watching more than 1 episode at a time
lmao
coming 2022, prolly December 2022, or some late 2022 date.
Coming 2022 AA (after apocalypse)
Probably, my guess is September-ish
I’m right there with ya man
Join the gang
I’m mourning Rockwell by watching Jessica Jones for more Tennant content lol
||I made my pfp HLN-A to honor her sacrifice||
Wasnt your pfp hlna before gen 2
hope they just stick to the ark story tbh
it makes sense, it's good. They dont need to change it loads. but I already know they will.
They wont change it much just enough to were we wont know exactly what happens
Like the most they'll do is introduce new characters and rearrange events that take place
I like how they made acid in Rockwell’s inerds so he has stomach acid I just wish he had poop there
You just wish he had huh?-😀
Maybe? It wasn’t this pfp though
The only pfps I remember having are the dragon, ”peace was never an option” duck, otter, more duck, and a assortment of animated series ones
And my current pfp
Oh and a mana one
What is wrong with you
Asked around everywhere and gotten no response so ill try here: I heard somewhere that there is a setting to turn cryopod color region display back on, is it possible for console?
Not the place, pal
Dollie allready confimred there are changes in the Series and that it is only "kinda" canon and "quite" accurate. Would need to find her exact wording on it.
Name
She said that it's "Not the canon definition we're used too"
So it's probably like the loose canon for what happened after Extinction.
Did Earth get fucked again?
Are we the same survivor from The Island?
Up to the player.
Most likely the same for the series, is what she means.
Not 'directly' canon. But loose enough that you can "choose" it to be canon or not.
I was talking about the animated series not the game 🙂
I was too. 
I was stating how the lore in Extinction to Genesis is loose as hell.
Just like how the animated series will most likely be. 
Ah you mean it is up to us what we take as canon from the series or not, cause some stuff is pretty open.
Correct
So how the fuck can voidwryms fly they shouldn't be able to they way they do
You cant just make a robot that size fly by flapping wings
Same reason of why we have air
I take it that the space biome is still connected to the ships air-systems. And have 'slight' amount of gravity.
Since we can see what true Zero-G looks like in Genesis 1. While in Genesis 2, you're more slowly flying around
And that 'slight' gravity is probably enough for the Voidwyrm to propel itself with their wings.
This is also the game that has corrupted wyverns with fucking huge ass wholes in their wings.
And the fact the element broke our understanding of the whole universe.
I wish we had actual explanations besides element can do what ever the fuck it wants
Then that's no fun
It's fun for me
If that's the case. Then it'd have to go with 'our' understanding of science. Which would break its whole purpose
Then you're no fun. 
I dont like to have fun I like to understand 
Then learn Halo's lore if you want that.
Fuck no
ARK's lore isn't for you if that's the case.
The problem is, the more they would explain, the more plot and logic holes would appear and that would be no fun anymore, Knowing every tiny bit of a story also takes away to ad some own stuff, ideas, etc.
If they added logic to ARK's lore.
Then the whole game couldn't exist.
I know
I am trying to rid all use for this channel by perfecting the lore so theorys can no longer be made
You fucked up their.
Fuck you
No lore is perfect XD
Fallout's was.
Till fucking Bethesda.
It still had plotholes XD but the whole setting, etc is one of the best still.
lol never XD
Ok ok but what is chris mclean hosted ark
anyone know what the deal is with hlna note 11?
every time i go in the space walk it triggers but never unlocks/ gives the xp
It plays around 5-6 times for me and it’s a bug, there is a note in one of the 4 gateway bridge thingy things along the pillars that support in the middle, and you’ll find it there I believe, unless it’s an entirely different note and I’m a little special in the head
"im going to assume they ran out of time before luanching this ship"
I never had that.
it just keeps going hlna pls
@frigid latch Heyo, Jatty boi.
Juuust wondering. But could it be 'theoretically' possible that a clone of Rockwell survived?
Unless something happened to Rockwell's clone. Shouldn't he have one like how Santiago does? 👀
Possibly making him a returned character. But not 'actually' being the Rockwell we knew. And so everything he did before ARK 2 isn't in vein still. But it gives his character still a small bit of redemption. 👀 (Even though this Rockwell wouldn't know that his previous self caused ARK 2.)
In theory there coud be a state zero Rockwell clone that does know nothing about the Arks, Element and what happend on the Arks on the ship.
Exactly.
And so it'd still give Rockwell 1.0 his villain character arc. And still bring him back. While not being the Rockwell we knew.
Also could be a bit different, depending on if they altered him or not.
Cause they did with Santiago and Gabriel and I guess even with Mei cause in the ship Santiago talks about it and he even mentions a warrior-queen.. which might be a hint to Mei.
If they pull a rise of Skywalker ima be pissed
Not what we're talking about at all
Shhhh
We're saying that. If they bring back Rockwell. But 'not' the Rockwell we knew and loved. It could easily work.
Don't see why they couldn't.
Hell, with this one possibly being constantly stressed out and knowing he came from a weird test-tube thingy. He could have the open mind and throw away any of his 18th century thinking. (which was one of the thing that helped him become the egotistical maniac we know)
And for cost, they wouldn't need Tennant.
They'd go with a younger sounding version of him. Just need to have that hint of Tennant though.
@frigid latch You getting all of this on paper Jat?
Make this happen in the first, or second expansion for ARK 2. 
The Feds/Transhumans on the ship seemed to have altered the memories, etc. on people to make them easier to handle and more fitting in so I could see the same might have happend to Rockwell, Mei, etc.
The possibility could be there, so no clue if they will do it.
Technically, Santiago also doesn't know it was Rockwell who fucked up the ship. 👀
So there would be no hard feelings.
And the base data in their Database was the same like data as the Ark had in theirs.
Nope, cause he does not know Rockwell at all.
Yeah both Santiagos are actually two different persons. They don't even have the same base memories.
And same with us. Unless it leaves it open that we play the same survivor (no spoilers from ending)
That'd be awkward if we did. 👀
So that's why they look totally different?
I guess you can take that as explanation. They altered his memories which is stated in the notes, but he also mentions they grew him a new body (which could look totaly different) and even his personality feels different to the one on Abs.
And I found three pics of him in the notes.
Thought you said nip-pics. 👀
lool no XD
One that shows him in the time of the Fed/URE Element war, and two (actually 3) of him on the ship.
||I'm afraid if Rockwell comes back with no old memories of Aberation and Genenesis he'll remember what his former self did in notime.||
||He can't remember what he never has experienced. ||
At the end of the gen 2 boss fight cutscene what does the shh she knew mean that hlna says?
I think she's talking about actual helena
yo yo yo, i have no clue as to anything lore this game so why are they on the island and the stones in their wrists
so if rockwell ends up on the colony ship how does he crash to earth on abberation during the extinction ending? Since the colony ship was already away from earth at that point. I'm thinking maybe abberation replicated him when he somehow made it onto the colony ship just like the arks can replicate other bosses if they are killed. So even though the colony ship version of him is dead there's still another instance of him on earth.
@tender wasp there almost certainly is as the arks store data of all their survivors but hes no different than any other survivor unless hes exposed to element. Although it could be possible a surviving corrupted rockwell could corrupt the other versions of himself.
that may have already happened actually remember in the final boss fight rockwell's voice echoes almost as if several people are speaking in his voice. Maybe all the heads in the wall are actually a hive mind of rockwells
it literally says in one of the exp notes that someone forgot to close one of the upload terminals on arat prime ...
uh oh...
read nidas notes
I mean thinking about it I don't think his voice echos anywhere else expect the part with all the heads
and if they were just extensions of himself why would he have a bunch of heads in the wall unable to attack or do anything
yeah cause he has multiple heads that all talk at the same time ...
cause he is the ship at that point
its more important to get more brain for stuff then to attack something since he makes stuff that follows him
and dont forget the tentacles which are his way of attacking you
It would be possible that original Rockwell corrupted his data but the ship and the Ark data base only have the same original data or had befor the Arks and the ship launched. After that they became different, cause the people on have ship have been modified (like meomories changed, etc.).
yes but if they were just more "meat puppets" he would still only have one mind controlling them all so what would be the point
And the Arks never saved anything of dead survivors bevor Helena. The survivors that died on the Arks.
also in the trailer he says "where the boundary between the biological and technological is all but erased" this could refer to the arks systems generating biological creatures
I think he is regarding to the ship here and what he has done cause he allready was becoming the ship.
yes but it CAN do so since it replicates the bosses and we know from abberation notes some characters found backup clones of themselves and we know rockwell can hack things and he would most likely have access to the database as abberations de facto overseer.
I think they talk of clones in general and not of backup clones. They never found clones of themself. Santiago only muses about if there are probably more clones of him.
hmm ill reread the notes I could have sworn I remembered they found clones of themselves
The Arks were more for sorting out the weak and therefore never had a respawn system until Helena made it possible. The ship in contarty needed to respawn people to work the ship and they did not know how long they would need to find a world.
They only find a chamber with different clones and realize they are clones themself, not clones of themself.
does everybody know about the massive water expanse under the lakes with megalodons and giant squids
just wondering if i discovered something i found a hole under one of those massive metal silos
that are in the lakes
Ya everyone knows about that’s lol
Well we'd have to hope he forgets scorched earth too, or else he would return to his old ways.
Assuming they're both clones of what was once a real person, one met helena and the other was stuck on that ship
Well we would've had to get from earth to a ship I assume had been in space long before we arrived on the island.
Transfers
yes. One never was on the Arks, never met Diana, Rockwell, Helenea and Mei, the other one never was on the ship, never worked on it cause the original Santiago they both got cloned from died in the Element war between URE and Feds.
I understand that but how would we teleport straight to a cryopod. I think its a different survivor but I would like if it were the same one
And for us it demepends what you decide. YOu still can decide we got uploaded the same way like Rockwell into the sim.. by Helene, may have done it ourseelf.
Thats also a possibility, because rockwell came and helena also being a homodeus could've transfered us
Not in a pot, into the sim. And then our Data gets loaded into an allready existing body, when we get free from the sim or while beeing in the sim.
Think it was confirmed by the dev's that it's 'your' choice
At least this is what I guess is what could have happend if you don't decide to be a new survivor. But here still is a lot open you can actually headcanon yourself 🙂
True true, I just hope ark 2 is like the early days of ark, new stuff every 2 weeks, no tek and no extremely broken flyers
Managars and a lot of later game stuff changed the feel of the game too much for me
Im just hoping none of it comes to the new planet.
Best balanced in Tek/Creature stuff (Map in general) for me was Aberration at it's time. Not to much Tek, Tek hard to get and I loved the no flyers.
the way that the Pteranodon took flight in the trailer for ARK 2 makes it look like it's more physics based
the Pteranodon actually dips a little down rather than just flying up right off the bat unrealistically
Reallistically a Pteranodon would never be able to carry a human.
I think even a Quez would not have been able.
Quetzals are absolutely massive though
yeah but light built.
they sure as hell couldn't pick up a Mammoth is all I know
Lol
I don’t know how to do spoiler tags, so... Spoilers.
I need to know what happened to Nida after Gabriel threw her the thing... Also the Santiago we see at the end of Gen 2 knows he’s respawned more than once
I really need to look up the entire lore of ark.
||Nida died, someone said she got killed by Rockwell. He even mentions it. I did not hear it myself and Santiago if you read the notes knows he is a clone and in the last two notes describes getting killed by that Yongki and knows he is allready dead and and his memories are saved as engramic matrix by Uma who talks to him in some way until he shuts him off.||
so i know how the implant works but how does it actuality craft stuff
since y'all usually seem more appreciative of this mess (and also i need to remind Ares to write info on lore), i wonder what changed here

I think it doesn't. It simply savees your progress, what you have learned, etc. The crafting like we do without any animation etc. feels like a simple game mechanic for me.
also i see i fucked up on low res
Ive had a question, how did we got into the genesis ship, and how did rockwell went from the abb ark, that landed on earth after ext, to the genesis ship
That's left open
He probably beamed himself onto it
If that's what you want to take it, sure.
It confirms that the transfering on the ship was left unlocked. Which explained how Rockwell got on.
Could easily be the same for us
'OR' we're just a new character.
Again, open ended.
What if we're rockwell
what would be the side effects of implanting a platform into the heart of an Element powered monster
asking for a friend 
Falling for his heart
I imagine WildCard is gonna step in when they realize people are building in Rockwell’s Proliferation.
They don’t allow players to build near boss terminals on previous maps, so being able to build in Rockwell’s Proliferation might be a bug.
heart go boom
Hey @bold dove Did you ever find out how we got on the ship?
It's up to us
So we decide?
@frigid latch i need to talk with you 🥺
I'm on SP
why is scorched earth map lore inacurate?
that was a good time. aberration was so much fun.
Scorched's lore is inacurate it just has things we didn't see in the game that we do now. The idea was that they would come back to it after sometime polishing the base island and whatever else but because it came out while ark was still in beta(please correct me if I'm wrong) it got ignored and they just worked on finishing the island by adding ascension, polishing a few things, adding tek stuff, and working on Aberration, they then said we're not adding ascension to SE and were moving on meaning that a lot of info seems inaccurate but it's not.
@left grove it’s established that a connection was left from arat prime to the genesis simulation/ship, it’s how hlna is involved and the same way Rockwell gets there, from what we can understand from the lore Helena sends us into the simulation so we can follow Rockwell, weather that means like Santiago there are now multiple survivors, since that body we wake up in on the genesis ship was always on the genesis ship, I’m thinking there multiple, unless Helena was like, imma turn you entirely into data so I can upload you into another version of you’s body
So either there’s two survivors or Helena with homodeus shenanigans makes it so that we are entirely transferred
I prefer the two survivors idea, since it makes a neat parallel between the original survivor Helena and the duplicate and hlna
A kind of echo of their relationship
@pliant wren I really wish we could have seen seat prime.
One disturbing trend I’m starting to see is people romanticising Rockwell because of “Helena” moment and I’m just like eww no, have you not read what this man did to other people for his “science” and eventually his sadism? Ick
People tend to be like that when they view a redemption, even though in this case it wasn’t really that, just a man seeing an old friend turned enemy in an echo as he was scared to die
And I mean reading all his notes start to finish you see the decline of a man, who was once as Helena saw him
It is more like that H-LNA (or Helena) knew who he once was and even by what he became and what he did forgives him in some way and comforts him in his last minutes of life. Like a friend she once saw in him and understanding that his fear of death did lead into all he did.
So not only rescuing the ship but also rescuing Rockwell from what he has become could be a reason Helena maybe has send us to the ship.
I dare one of u to explain the entire story of ark
we do that like every hour here
We allways explain a lot of the story here lol.
dollie also pinned a couple things for you to read if you would like Emanation
only if dollie would pin the cursed lore
im gonna learn how to play the gen 2 credits on piano and make everyone cry
Do we know the reason as to why the genesis ship was sent into space
imagine
Loose enough for 'you' to decide
because its not cursed lore
The ship was sent into space around the same time the Arks were launched. The ship was the second solution to deal with the corruption on Earth that started to get out of hand after the war between Feds and URE. Arks and reseeding earth was the plan of the URE mostly and the ship and finding a new planet was the plan of the Feds mostly but both factions did work hand in hand at the end.
Also Nida's note make it pretty obvious that the ship is allready in space for centuries ant least.

We like "cursed" lore.
Not lore from a 5 year old talking about cocks. 
Not directed at you.
Just directed at........uoy?
You know the anus door?
wtf is happening in this channel
The point of that anus door to actually be in the roof in-game. And to leak out smiley shit out of it. (Yes, this is actually in-game. And has teeth)
But imagine if it could fucking 'chew' you.
That leaks out slime
And who knows what that slime is. 👀
It kinda got a creamy tint to it.
⚪
Now "THAT'S" cursed lore.
.....
You have white shit? 
That ain't shit. 👀
I 'am' space-anus. 👀

I hate you Spartan... now I never ever want to go to the flesh biome again.. I can't get that pic out of my head now.. XD
@drowsy lance please remove him
disocrds tos say you need to be 13 to use it you just admitted to be 6 good bye
doesnt matter
you made a legal statement and now this server as well as discord can be sued for leaving yoiu in here
ok back to good lore any new theories ?
oh I didn't even see the age thing, I'll make a note of it. tyty genie
theorieeeeeeeeessssssssss
@frigid latch You here?
wtf
Summon jat
is there a place to read all of the notes yet
i went there but didn't realize there were two more clicks i had to make. thanks
i'll be glad when we can get some videos to put all of the new stuff in some kind of order. sometimes this channel is impossible to keep up with
Why are you so hellbent on talking to jat
Looking for small tribe mates fresh start dm me with stats
send pics
If thats the case, then how did rockwell and the survivor get one it, it eould have to of been launched after they returned
That is open to you but it is stated in the notes, that the ship is in orbit for centuries at least and that it has launched around the time when the Arks did. It is also stated that a connection from Arat prime to the ship was left open and this could be a possible way Rockwell got on it by uploading his data to it.. same could have happend with our survivor. But it is stated the ship was allready long gone, when the arks came back to earth.
Spartan I didn't get Rockwell anus pics
Not completely sure, but weren’t the arks made and lead by the URE, while the Federation made the ship, meaning the two sides of the war each had made plans to ensure the survival of humanity? Though iirc, they did help each other on some stuff
The federation basically giving up on earth, and URE not
what the heck happened to earth, didnt they fixed it?
theres no way the earth is still fixed, all arks landed into earth, including abb, where rockwell was
Well, landed arks are supposedly cleansing the earth from element, I doubt Rockwell would somehow stop all of the arks around the planet, so I guess he just decided it wasn’t worth it, and instead took the opportunity to find another planet by hijacking the ship?
so the earth is still fixed? but why there are survivors along with the ship?
The ship was launched around the same time of the arks iirc, it is also stated that it’s been searching for centuries, meaning it probably wasn’t launched after the player beats extinction
ok yeah screw my theory that makes alot more sense
The planet is corrupted because of a war between two fronts, but the two fronts seems to have made their own plans to ensure humanity’s survival, one having made the ark, and the other having decided to find a new habitable planet, is what I’m thinking
but how did rockwell kidnap the ship if he was on abb?
i believe that when arks landed, rockwell kidnapped the ship
It’s only theorized, but he possibly uploaded himself through arat prime, which is possibly the installation where the ship was made and launched. I believe there was an open connection between the ship and arat prime
hmmmm ok that does make sense tho
I believe that this could also be how we too got on the ship, being that Helena uploaded us?
tbh i still dont know much about ext lore, i know that helena became a homo deus and created the revive system, but dk much more
ball
It is up to us how we/Rockwell got on the ship but it is stated an uplink to the ship was left open, so upload could be an option.. for Rockwell and us.
Well, if it is an uplink / connection, then it’s hell of a signal it would probably take, if the ship had already been searching for centuries?
its said that the earth is abandoned much more time than we lived into it
i would consider like 400k years, since its stated that we exists for about over 200k years
Homo Deus Magic
Lol
I confirm
It’s the best dlc so far
Especially for SP, you feel that you aren’t alone
it feels like HLN-A talks a little less on Gen2 than on Gen1 idk
but I love Gen2 so far, got big big plans, new Garden base I'll be building soon, taming a couple R-Reaper Kings, getting R-Gigas and breeding them to get the ultimate mutated Giga
Well, she was your guide on Gen1, plus it’s probably more cuz of the amount of glitches, etc in gen1?
loving the music for Gen2 and I especially love Rockwell Battle Suit, it's a complete bop
sometimes I seriously wonder how autocorrect thinks on is ok
it doesn't think, autocorrect is stupid
The composer did an amazing job with the soundtracks
Gareth is great
Yeah
all the music for Gen2 is phenomenal
I especially love the gen 2 theme
it's good
