#lore-nerdz

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gusty turret
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Imagine if Mei tamed the broodmother or something, like you know thats something she would do too and and she could absolutely do it cuz she has hacks

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If she can ko tame a drake she can ko tame anything

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Id like to think Rockwell made it to where you can't ko tame drakes because he was salty about Mei and Helena beating him

glad crow
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Broodmother and other bosses would likely be impossible due to their status as guardians.

gusty turret
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Your mistake is saying something is impossible when it comes to Mei

thorn ore
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she has developer mode or sth

gusty turret
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Isn't there also a special text saying "... Has been tamed" or something

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I could've sworn there was a notification for that like if you forcetamed them

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Like i feel like the intent is there it was just never fully implemented

thorn ore
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afterall titans have this message and in sotf there is this message too if someone decides to tame a boss

thorn ore
gusty turret
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If only Mei knew😔

thorn ore
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she wouldve probably tamed the overseer

low trellis
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Since my previous question was randomly deleted, I'll ask again. Why are there tek dinos running around?

gusty turret
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Because wildcard said so

dim palm
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I hope they change aberration a bit to have more unique creatures instead of just glowing “aberrant” versions. Kinda like how scorched earth had a majority of unique creatures

sinful yarrow
dim palm
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I LOVE aberration unique creatures

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It’s just that if you look at scorched earth you’ll see most of the critters are unique

low briar
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Scorched had ... 11 total
Jerboa, Moth, Thorny Dragon, Mantis, Phoenix, Rock Golem, 3 Wyvern variants, and untameable Jugbugs and Deathworms

Aberration had ... 15*
4 Light Pets, Ravagers, Roll Rats, Basilisk, Karkinos, Rock Drakes, Reapers, and untameable Glow Bugs, Lamprey, Seekers, Nameless, and Reaper Queens

thorn ore
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arent reapers and reaper queens the same species

if you dont count the 2 different jugbugs as 2 then why the reapers

low briar
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Because they're different creatures with different mechanics. One is (technically) tameable, the other isn't. If you don't like my list, make your own.

thorn ore
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Never said i didnt like your list ¯_(ツ)_/¯

low briar
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Hence the if

gusty turret
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Wow extinction really fell off

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Theres what like 7? And no variants?

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Well 11 if you wanna count the titans and forest wyverns but I don't

gusty turret
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The biggest fumble though was not making defense unit blueprints available

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Just make it a big robotic rollrat😔

tough crag
gusty turret
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I don't count corrupted either since they don't do anything besides be annoying and they're just regular dinos with purple goop

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At least other variants you can actually interact with and they differentiate in stats!!!!

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The purple goop being polymer is cool though

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Are osds canon? Like where do they come from? The arks?

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Are they like the gen 2 drops where they're like salvaging stuff or what

thorn ore
lament raft
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the arks could possibly be assembling and dropping them

nocturne field
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In what order should I play and beat the ARK series? I think it goes: The Island, Scorched, Abberation, Extinction, Genesis 1-2, then Ascended

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Ragnarok and Fjordur are after Genesis 1 and 2 because they’re healed parts of the earth while still having overlords (bosses)

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And crystal isles, lost island, and valgura(?)

arctic bison
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free maps aren't cannon or part of the story order

lament raft
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ascended is Ark revamped

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so you can start with ascended and play as the maps are released to it

nocturne field
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I can’t buy ascended yet

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Just spent my money on the ultimate edition

dim palm
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The new story dlc for ascended might bring us to arat prime, and if it does you’ll get to see earth after it healed

nocturne field
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Where are the obelisks on rag?

dim palm
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I personally hope it’s just more ARKs, with new storylines with a new cast

dim palm
nocturne field
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Oh

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I didn’t remember rag having obilisks

bold dove
dim palm
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And fjordur has its own guardian too (which isn’t canon) but since it does it’s on an ark

dim palm
nocturne field
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Do the bosses have lore value or are they just as apex predators?

bold dove
# dim palm They didn’t need to even use obelisks tho… but then again it doesn’t even matter...

They do need them.
They're the only source of and form of coordination of where you are on the map without the 'show player on map' option enabled back on ASE.
It'd also be fucking hell to try to find the boss terminals under a shit ton of foliage.
It's generally good practice to have at least some obvious points of interests when it comes to world design. Which the obelisks repersents to most ARK players 'bosses' and 'transfering'

dim palm
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I mean even tho they aren’t canon I’d consider rag an ark

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Maybe not fjordur because it has portals runes and Yggdrasil

bold dove
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Some terminals on Gen 1 are also underneath some POI.

dim palm
nocturne field
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Ragnarok seems to be an ark that has landed and seeded the area around it, as it is the largest map to date. (I don’t know how big ascended is)

bold dove
dim palm
bold dove
nocturne field
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Thanks for telling me

dim palm
nocturne field
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Hm.

bold dove
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I do too.
But there's more technical things going on in the background than 'if a map has an obelisk, it's an ARK.'

dim palm
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I get it…

nocturne field
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Ragnarok is my fav map so I’m trying to work it into the lore, alongside the other non canon maps.

dim palm
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I don’t like non canon maps anyways

dim palm
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I’m glad they keep ‘em seperate, the center doesn’t make sense, neither does crystal isles

nocturne field
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Got it.

bold dove
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Same.
Kind of bland when they all have a lackluster endgoal.

dim palm
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Fjordur neither

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I want more story content tho

nocturne field
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Yeah

dim palm
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More bosses on scorched earth, more story ARKs

bold dove
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Well, hopefully the new story DLC will be worth it.

dim palm
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I want an arctic ark or a tropical ark

nocturne field
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I’m downloading the ultimate edition rn and it’s taking a long ahh time

bold dove
dim palm
nocturne field
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Has anyone else downloaded it to compare?

bold dove
dim palm
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Volcano, thick lush Jingles, sulfur fields, thermal vents underwater, etc

nocturne field
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Ughhhh

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That would be nice

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Maybe a non canon map in the future

dim palm
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NOOO

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I want a canon one with a new cast

gusty turret
nocturne field
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That would be tough

dim palm
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I want to see more ARKs in the System

gusty turret
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Again i could be completely making that up but it sounds right

nocturne field
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Could be based on post-eruption Island

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A volcano map

bold dove
dim palm
gusty turret
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I just blatantly disagree

bold dove
bold dove
nocturne field
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Ragnarok could use the lighthouse, wyvern trench, and the desert kingdom for Lanmarks

gusty turret
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Idk wilderness stuff but i imagine if there were 3 massive towers in the sky and i had a compass and a map i could probably point out almost exactly where i was

nocturne field
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Yeah

gusty turret
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Sometimes i forget your little peg isn't on the map by default and you were actually intended to do the math like that pre gps tier

bold dove
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I kind of wish there was a setting to bring back the physical handheld map on ASA.

gusty turret
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Wait theres not a handheld msp in asa????

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I just got it and i don't know pc controls so im learning

bold dove
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No, it's literally the SOTF map system.

bold dove
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Oh wait, playstation.

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Uhhh

gusty turret
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Well you would think common sense controls by default then its e for inventory in Minecraft

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So i just don't expect common sense controls anymore

bold dove
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Just button smash.

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That's what I do with every new game.

gusty turret
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Fair

dim palm
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I really hope they fix scorched earth

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With the Ada release*

gusty turret
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I never really saw anything to fix i just hated it as a map because it was genuinely so hard

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The only thing that bothered me was storms damaging generators that were inside???

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Like yeah that makes sense

bold dove
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The concept of needing wind for power was cool.
Wasn't cool that the only way to get efficient wind was in very little locations on the map.

gusty turret
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They should've made hamster wheels for power

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You can just plug jerboas in😭

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They missed a lot of opportunities with scorched

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Solar, geothermal, etc etc

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I don't think id change anything about it though

bold dove
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Actually, yeah. The wind system could be fine as it is if there was another way to get efficent power in low wind areas.

gusty turret
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It kind of just is and will remain the boring supplemental map

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All we really got was like oh yeah better check the obelisk!!!

dim palm
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Give it 2 more guardians, a tek cave, an overseer, more caves in general, and it’ll be perfect

bold dove
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The entire enviroment needs a rework.

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I'm gonna be honest.
It's the shittest looking map.

gusty turret
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Its a desert its not like you can do much with a desert

gusty turret
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Theres not enough tekgrams in the game for there to be that many bossfights and to still get rewarded for them

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And the last thing we need is more tekgrams

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And if you tried to add more of the others it would defeat the point of them trying to diversify them across maps so you can't just get everything off a singular map

bold dove
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That's like saying 'you can't do much with a forest' when all you think a forest is, is just trees.

gusty turret
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I feel like you can do objectively less things with a desert compared to a forest

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Like compare Tatooine to Endor

bold dove
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Firstly, 'I feel like' and 'objectively' is an oxymoron.
Secondly, you're objectively wrong if you've seen real world examples of different deserts in the world.

gusty turret
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Looking at pictures of deserts across the world theres a bunch of sandy hills and nothing else!!!

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I mean they could probably add some salt flats or something i guess?

bold dove
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That's the same mindset as saying 'forests are just tree filled hills and nothing else.'

gusty turret
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Not really finding forests across the world you see all kinds of different environments

bold dove
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Forests are a majority of the enviroments on Earth.

gusty turret
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Exactly and they're hella diverse

bold dove
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May I DM you?

gusty turret
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Sure

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Im just sayin people dont like living in the desert for a reason!!!

bold dove
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No shit.

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But there's more real life issues then video game issues with living in a desert.

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Same reason why people don't like living in cold environments.

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It's a hazard, and there's no need to in the real world.

gusty turret
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Theres still a good amount of greenery on scorched but naturally, fitting the theme of there being an unpassable zone with a danger to keep people away from the border, you aren't going to diversify much more than they already did with scorched

bold dove
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Diversity isn't an issue with Scorched. It has the same amount of main biomes as The Island has.
The issue is that each one naturally looks shit, compared to what I sent you.

gusty turret
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Well i mean comparing 7 year old video game graphics on a rushed map to professional photos is gonna look like shit thats just a given

bold dove
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Of course, and I'm hoping that they'll improve from the shit rushed mess we got.

gusty turret
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I thought you meant it was the shittiest looking in terms of diversity

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Like biomes and stuff

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Its definitely no abb

bold dove
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The biomes are shit.
But not in their choice of biomes, but the way they're made.

gusty turret
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Abb is gorgeous besides how its just a bunch of smooth rock textures

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Even if the map looked better as a whole I probably still wouldn't wanna play it

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I don't hate myself to that extent

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The only easy source of water is infested by every evil thing imaginable

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Every time i tried to drink i got grabbed by a kapro

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Between that and allos mantis sabers carnos etc being literally everywhere

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They need to make the river semi inhabitable

bold dove
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If it at least rarely rained on the map. I feel like that'd be an improvement.

dim palm
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I personally like how hard it is

gusty turret
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Its not even a fun hard its just you only play it if you genuinely want to feel nothing but pain for your entire experience

dim palm
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Xd

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I like the idea of scorched

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It just feels half assed

gusty turret
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Because it was

dim palm
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1 boss when there should be 4, not many spots to build, but those are really my only issues

gusty turret
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I really prefer the only one boss, its just not that impactful of a map

dim palm
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I like how much of a challenge it is

gusty turret
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Abb only has one too but its an actually important map in the story so the fight is cool

dim palm
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I mean I’m okay with ab having 1 boss but that’s only because it’s a lore reason

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It upsets me that scorched only has 1 when it should have 4 just like the island

gusty turret
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I don't think anything they could reasonably do to scorched would make it less forgettable

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Theres no reason it should have 4, its never implied in the story

dim palm
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It’s an ark? All arks have 3 guardians and an overseer

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The reason we don’t fight them on ab is because the overseer was nuked

gusty turret
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Literally the only story ark we know that was the case was island

dim palm
brazen zephyr
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Who wanna play ark evolved with me I’m pretty new but I managed all basics in game

dim palm
gusty turret
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I don't think additional guardians are ever mentioned in ab

brazen zephyr
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I am?

dim palm
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Yes this is a chat for lore

brazen zephyr
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What chat should I be in

bold dove
brazen zephyr
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I’m not to good at discord

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Sorry

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And ty

gusty turret
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It was more likely than not up to the overseer if they decided there should be guardians or how the process should work for ascension

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Since they literally decided everything else too

dim palm
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I don’t think that would be the case

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In single player you have to go to specific obelisks to fight specific guardians

gusty turret
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For the island yeah

dim palm
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They don’t have that in multiplayer cuz like what if someone blocks it blah blah

gusty turret
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Thats a singular example we have compared to probably hundreds/thousands of arks

dim palm
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But like, that means that each obelisk correlates to a guardian

gusty turret
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On the island sure

dim palm
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Scorched was a rushed project, they probably didn’t make them out of time constraints

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We even know there’s a tek cave we can’t access

gusty turret
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Even if thats the real world reason thats just part of the canon now, the story was written for a singular guardian fight and no overseer

dim palm
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Gameplay doesn’t always correlate to lore

gusty turret
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In the lore thats how it happened though

dim palm
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And just saying ascending from scorched wasnt canon till they added the ascension

gusty turret
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It was though

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It just didn't have an ingame ascension

dim palm
gusty turret
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Ascension isn't a real thing thats just what we call it, in lore its just teleporting to another ark

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They didn't get extra levels or learn how to make tek from ascending

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They just went somewhere else and started over

dim palm
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I’m pretty sure Helena and rockwell didn’t even fight anything to ascend off scorched

gusty turret
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Have you read the notes?

dim palm
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A long ass time ago

gusty turret
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You should probably read them again

dim palm
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It’s soooo Long thoooo 😭

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But hey they could always change the lore, yk, add more bosses to scorched

gusty turret
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I don't think they'll go through the effort to rewrite the lore just to do more work and add more guardians

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Its wildcard we're talking about here

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Alas, poor Timur. He was so focused on celebrating his victory over one foe, that he never saw his greatest threat. Now he lies beneath the severed head of the beast he vanquished, eyes bulging and blood seeping from his open mouth.

At least, that is how I imagine him. I did not stay to admire my handiwork. As soon as the first group of Burning Phoenix warriors succumbed to their poisoned feast, I stole away into the night, Edmunium and artifact in tow.

Serves those ruffians right, I say! They never did treat me with the propriety that a gentleman and scholar of my caliber deserves. This desert is better off without them.

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The artifact is what the tribe got from killing the manticore and rockwell stole it^^

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The transporter that can take us back to the "control center" station is in the ruins of another city, south of the mountains. Wali believes that it was destroyed by the obelisks, just like the city in the southeast.

I didn't press her for details, not that I'd have gotten any. Wali's more tight lipped about those ruins than anything. I had to practically beg her to take me to the southeastern city, and while we were there, she spent most of her time just gazing out into the distance.

No sense in bringing her mood down with that rubbish now. After all that she's done for me, I'd like give her a nice, proper farewell

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Having seen us through the ruins and safely to the platform, Wali has taken her leave. After doing so much for me, I was sad to see her go, but at least I got her to smile before she left. Well, me and Radar. I can't very well take the little critter with me, so I officially gave Wali ownership of her. They'll be good for each other, I think.

Gah, I wrote "Wali" up there. Twice! I suppose old habits die hard, but it's not really her name, is it? I always knew that was the case, but she'd never told me to call her anything else. At least not until now.

Well at any rate - cheers, Raia. It was a pleasure to have known you.

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Canonically thats just how it happened, all they needed was the manticores artifact for ascension

dim palm
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i see...

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well, i hopen they change that

elder path
gusty turret
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It depends how badly you want to be smote for plagiarism

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I cannot imagine publishing an Ark note as your history paper would go well

stiff loom
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Is scorched just filler in the lore between abb and the island? I cannot think of anything important about it except maybe Rockwell’s descent into madness over element?

lament raft
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SE had a mixed and rushed development process

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it was pushed out before it was actually finished with cut corners, and was released about the time WC was out of money from the lawsuit and bought by snail games

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they didnt even add the ascension cutscene until like a year before ASA

dim palm
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Is there a reason there’s no tek creatures in ASA?

bold dove
small rune
gusty turret
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I mean really its never implied survivors cant have babies

rain dock
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If they don't rewrite lore for scorched it's not going to be because it's too much effort, it'll be because they decided not to

gusty turret
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It definitely might be because its too much effort

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Wildcard is known for many things and releasing finished products that go above and beyond expectations in a timely manner is not one of those things

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I wonder if the animated series is gonna show like young Raia and stuff or if we're just gonna get to see it within the Helena timeline

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Grandma Raia is cool and all but young Raia is cooler

lyric tendon
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Kinda makes you wonder why most "indie" games are mostly 2d or stylized/toonish 3d but never attempting to be "looking realistic" as ARK

gusty turret
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Im honestly completely unsure what point you were trying to make or who the point was addressed for

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😭😭😭

lyric tendon
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See reply

glad crow
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So far, has ASA introduced or implied anything that wasn't known from ASE?

low briar
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Story-wise? Not really other than more inconsistencies between lore and dossiers - Helena directly mentioning Cryos in Rhynio dossier

gusty turret
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Any written dossiers implemented post extinction/on a non canon map we can safely say aren't Helena

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Even if they're in the same style or whatever

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And realistically they only make sense through Aberration because Helena is in a coma for the creature encounters on Extinction

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Im not sure why they wouldn't just turn dossiers into a one who waits digital notes type thing on Extinction, maybe to emphasize Helena trying to keep a grasp on her humanity

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Or any other post extinction critter like rhynios and such

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They could use that to make cryos canon and make it make sense like Helenadeus gave them to us to help us out or something

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Ew i just read the dossier it also mentions tek which she wouldn't even know existed while on the island

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I kinda miss when ark was just a mysterious dinosaur game without all the tek crap

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In the game at least

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Like the storyline is fine

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But tek as a gameplay feature made it boring

dim palm
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it bothers me how the tek we unlock in genesis 1 is URE tek and not terran federation tek

lyric tendon
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Gen 1 is a simulation plus both factions collabed in both projects

dim palm
lyric tendon
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you dont even see any URE branding either

dim palm
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theres a huge different between terran tek and ure tek

lyric tendon
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well blame genesis 2 for that annoying factoid

dim palm
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ure tek is super shiny, jagged, etc, while terran tek is smooth, not really as shiny, more suited for utility rather than fighting

gusty turret
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Because ure was cyborgs not basically just space America

dim palm
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dont get me wrong i love ure tek but i just wish we could see more terran tek

glad crow
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URE mostly did the arks correct? While they colaberatted, that's likely why. Same for why terran is on gen 2. As for why URE is in the simulation, I'd wager that they just did a large part of that as part of the collaboration. The real reason is of course they made it up as they went along though.

gusty turret
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The implant is URE tek basically everything else is fed tek

glad crow
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So swap the names about a bit. Does my point still stand?

gusty turret
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Fed tek actually looks like equipment ure tek looks organic

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I can agree more ure tek would be cool yeah

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Although it seems like a lot of tek gear is just universal

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The way Diana talks about it makes it sound like they use basically the same stuff

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I feel so much lighter now! Sure, part of that might come from sleeping in an actual bed, but mostly I'm just relieved that my ragtag band of rascals is in better hands.

This larger group we joined is way more organized. They've been setting up shelters, mining Element and establishing a perimeter for weeks. Not surprising. One of the leaders is URE special forces, after all.

Weirdly, some of the the people here are from the Federation, but given our situation, even the Feddies are being team players. Hope that truce holds up when we get this TEK gear up and running...

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The more the camp's grown, the more tense things have become with the Feddies, so today I decided to break the ice. Whatever's happening between the United Republics of Earth and the Terran Federation in the rest of the world doesn’t matter. We're all in this together, right?

Of course, with my dumb luck, I didn't make nice with just any old Feddie. I unknowingly buddied up to Santiago. Yeah, as in the Santiago that's so famous he's only got one name, as in the guy who hacked into URE command one day and reverse engineered our latest TEK armor the next. That Santiago.

Turns out he's really into pop music. Super disappointed he's missing the new season of URE Idol. Go figure.

glad crow
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They later refer to the armour as off-brand, right?

gusty turret
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Yeah but i think thats moreso because they don't have the schematics to make an actual set and are kinda just winging it

glad crow
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That implies they are both little more than brands, further supporting your point.

gusty turret
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The top brass finally agreed on a plan today. According to our makeshift engineering corps, we've got the resources to cobble together an off-brand, flight ready suit of TEK armor in a month or two. One person will then take that armor and leave in search of help: me.

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Like referring to is a makeshift engineering, etc etc it seems like its moreso just because of how they're scraping it together than the actual "brand"

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Like comparing some cheap dollar store soda to Dr Pepper

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Like its basically the same thing

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Which tbh makes me curious would URE soldiers be inherently stronger than feds since they get cybernetic augmentation and stuff?

glad crow
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Probably. Since they are depicted as balanced, I'd imagine that feds had more numbers.

gusty turret
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That is assuming all URE get that kinda stuff though actually which i doubt

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It would probably stay in the elite

dim palm
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i wish the tekgrams in gen1 were terran tek

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but i still love the ure look they have right now

gusty turret
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Tekgrams are basically univeral tek

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Im not sure what more you expect

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Like the federation tek suit in gen 2 is pretty much exactly the same as a normal tek suit its just a discount version that they probably would've mass produced for ease of work without having to waste resources making a full tek suit

heady pulsar
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Explains it having very little armor

gusty turret
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Thats also just gameplay though having that much armor off the bat would be too op

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But if i remember correctly the design is a bit slimmer? I've not looked at it in a while im not sure though

heady pulsar
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It's more streamlined if I remember right

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The jetpacks are different designs and sizes

gusty turret
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Yeah i mean like you wouldn't want an emergency teksuit that was probably designed in case of radiation or something to be as bulky as a combat armor

heady pulsar
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Like someone mentioned earlier more utility

gusty turret
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Yep

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You can only optimize warfare so far though like the designs aren't going to be drastically different between the two factions

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If something works it just works

heady pulsar
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If it ain't broke modify don't fix it

gusty turret
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Yep exactly

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The tek atv is a tragedy

heady pulsar
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Yeah

gusty turret
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They could've done a lot adding different vehicles or saddles

heady pulsar
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It's not even a atv it's a buggy

gusty turret
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I think adding a tek stego saddle that has like a tank turret would be fun😭

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We already got a fighter jet dolphin and a whale bomber

heady pulsar
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And a back flapper

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Sinomacrops

gusty turret
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Oh yeah we also got a pig dog with a minigun😭

heady pulsar
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Personally I think those are cool

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We also got a flying platypus

gusty turret
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Imagine if there was a milk attack

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Like a milk version of the magmasaur

heady pulsar
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Sorry genetically modified platypus

heady pulsar
dim palm
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URE is also more for combat while Terran is more for utility

gusty turret
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Im questioning the accuracy of that statement but

dim palm
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I can give you examples

gusty turret
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Sure?

dim palm
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Alright gimme a sec I have to find everything

gusty turret
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The only reasonable examples i could even try to think of for differences would be civilian infrastructure

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We don't really know enough about the tek war to be able to expressly point out differences in equipment, everything we have points to them doing basically the exact same thing

nocturne field
rain dock
lyric tendon
#

indie has no kind of luxury until their game made as an equal success as ARK

rain dock
#

I mean sure, but it's still the same vision leading it

lyric tendon
#

the difference is ASA is a remake/remaster, the ARK IP is too established to be called an "indie" game
not a new IP like any Indie made game

gusty turret
#

Ark stopped being an indie game around scorched release

lyric tendon
#

pretty much

gusty turret
#

Even if it technically is one, its hard to consider a multi probably billion dollar company with a pretty decently sized team of professionals that are working on a game with a massive playerbase across all platforms indie devs, and don't they also use snail so they aren't even really independent?

night mauve
dim palm
dim palm
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i wonder what aberration looked like before it got nuked, and i wonder what it's guardians looked like

bold dove
dim palm
bold dove
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Play on The Island

dim palm
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Not every map needs some unique gimmick

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I mean like another island

bold dove
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Play on Rag.

dim palm
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no thanks

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im just saying it would be cool to be able to play on aberration before it was destroyed

night mauve
dim palm
night mauve
bold dove
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Wildcard currently has around 100 employees.

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And if we take into account GroveStreets help with ASA and ARK-2, then that's possibly around 150-200 employees in total.

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Wildcard by no accounts is a small company anymore.

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People arguing in here whether or not they're still a Indie studio.
Wildcard flat out stated they're not anymore. And barely ever where.
They're a Double-A studio.

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Other then the fact he was introduced by it from his kids? Nothing.

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Oh 100%

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Anything is better then Starfield.

gusty turret
#

Its funny people still have any level of standards for Bethesda like yeah their games are garbage quality no duh

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You play it because you want a game that has more pointless sidequests than actual content because you're a little adhd goblin that can't stay focused on one objective for more than 20 minutes

bold dove
gusty turret
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New Vegas isn't Bethesda

bold dove
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I know. But it's still their IP

gusty turret
#

4 and skyrim are subpar

bold dove
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And that's your opinion (and mine)
But we'd be objectively wrong to say they where 'bad games' when they sold billions, and still have a strong player base.

gusty turret
#

It can be a bad game and still sell billions

bold dove
#

Starfield, is just fundamentally a bad game.
I've never seen in my whole life a game that fails on everything it tries to be.
It's not even fun to make fun of it. It's just boring.

gusty turret
#

No mans sky isn't bad, it was bad on release but they turned it around big time

bold dove
#

No Man's Sky had a good premise, and actually built on that premise.

gusty turret
#

Bethesda released fallout 76 good then turned it into microtransaction hell because they wanted to copy eso's success

bold dove
#

Yes, but again. Good premise that could be worked on.
Starfield was just shit on arrival.

#

They have an entire sci-fi universe with no sapient aliens or any major conflicts?
The game was destined to fail.

#

Fast traveling: The Video Game

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I have no hopes for Elder Scrolls 6.

dim palm
#

wait i havent played it but you cant fly with a spaceship?? tf?

bold dove
#

And I kind of hope someone makes a successor to Skyrim that everyone plays instead of Elder Scrolls 6. Just out of spite.

dim palm
bold dove
#

GTA6 you mean?

bold dove
dim palm
bold dove
dim palm
#

😭

bold dove
#

You know, all the games most people hate the main story of.

dim palm
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hes terrible bruh

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4's gameplay was incredible but its story was mid as hell

bold dove
#

Fallout 4's gunplay was good. But the RPG mechanics where heavily toned down.

dim palm
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76's gunplay and vats system is probably the best out of any fallout game. same with 76's map

bold dove
#

I just know how to use Google.

dim palm
#

appalachia is gorgeous

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and expeditions are so lame

bold dove
dim palm
#

they had so much potential to release paid dlc that had story content but noooo it had to be a free half assed mission type expansion

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expeditions are so boring i want to finish my union power armor set but its such a drag to play expeditions

bold dove
#

I was hoping expeditions where going to be more....open...
Kind of hate how they're just a neighborhood big.

gusty turret
dim palm
#

also 76 is getting a map expansion into shenandoah national park

bold dove
#

Nothing, I have honestly 0% expectations until something actually comes out.
A game can look good with great marketing, but be in reality worse then Starfield.
And ARK-2 is realistically being delayed till 2025.

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If not even later.

gusty turret
#

The only things i have hope for is an elden ring dlc

dim palm
gusty turret
#

And maybe seeing if Baldurs gate 3 pumps out any new content

bold dove
dim palm
bold dove
gusty turret
#

Ugh

bold dove
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Debatable. As Konami has been nothing but shit recently.
Also, I'm still salty that they're remaking the second one before the first one.

gusty turret
#

They should remaster mgsv

bold dove
#

Shit excuse.
Resident Evil 2 had a larger audience then the first one, yet Capcom was smart enough to remake the first one for extra income.

dim palm
#

theyre working on the next cyberpunk game now

bold dove
#

Hopefully their next Cyberpunk isn't prematurely released due to shareholders.

dim palm
#

makes me a little sad, though... i really love night city

gusty turret
#

Is gta 6 supposed to be 2024 I haven't paid any attention to that stuff im not a gta person

dim palm
bold dove
gusty turret
#

Gta 6 sweeps goty awards 2025 no debate

dim palm
bold dove
#

TableTop RolePlaying Game

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Like D&D

dim palm
bold dove
#

Cyberpunk started out as a D&D like game

dim palm
#

what does a tabletop game have to do with anything

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oh wtf fr?

bold dove
#

Yep.
Look up 'Cyberpunk Red' or 'Cyberpunk 2033'

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Nope.
Nothing until it's released.

dim palm
#

so every installment of the game will be called "Cyberpunk:" and the name of the year it takes place?

gusty turret
#

I haven't even heard anything about any games coming to be hyped for

bold dove
gusty turret
#

The last game i remember hype for before it was released was armored core

dim palm
gusty turret
#

I would keep an eye on Dune: Awakening tbh

#

Idk when its supposed to release but I've heard some hype

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Its made by the company that made conan exiles aka the sister game to Ark

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Or one of the sister games at least, if we're acknowledging rusts existence

dim palm
#

so theres cyberpunk 2013, 2020, red, 2077, and edgerunners @bold dove

gusty turret
#

Its supposed to be a survival mmo

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Its always worth replaying baldurs gate

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My first playthrough took like over 100 hours so there is always more to offer you just have to find it

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If you only got to the underdark you didn't even get out of act 1 so you got less than 1/3 through the game😭

lyric tendon
#

Lmao calling Conan Exiles, a "sister game"

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I will only compare ARK to Conan when they enable dino mating animations

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The real "sister game" to ARK is ATLAS but it's unsupported for Official

But it's good for ATLAS modders and unofficial servers because every freaking season wipe for ATLAS hurts unofficial servers

gusty turret
lyric tendon
#

the word you are looking for is "competitor"

gusty turret
#

Eh not really theres no competition its not like the games are warring over anything

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Ark players don't know conan exists and conan players recoil at the mention of ark

lyric tendon
#

It is a proper term for comparing different games

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Conan is not like ARK therefore you cant call it a "sister game"

gusty turret
#

Its a survival sandbox game

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At the barest of concepts it does the same thing just with a different theme

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Its like the ark for fantasy nerds

lyric tendon
#

It's like you call me your sister just cause we are both humam

gusty turret
#

No thats just because James Charles took my place and is impersonating me but couldn't repress the word sister

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Its like what lord of the rings is for star wars

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Its both nerd stuff but one is sci fi and one is fantasy

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Ark is sci fi and conan is fantasy

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Dragons and blah blah blah

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Yeah, most notably people

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You club people and torture them till they work for you

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You kidnap baby animals and put em in a cage

lyric tendon
#

Let me explain you this one

Conan is not like ARK (hence not a "sister game"
Combat is similar to ATLAS which is better than ARK

Taming sucks, it's least interesting than ARK

Conan has battlepass and it's pointless, just cheat it

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The tame system is dull, you only ride horses... and rhinos if you pay

gusty turret
#

The combat is souls-esque

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The map is also considerably smaller so theres less need for mounts, you're better off climbing

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I imagine its like what ark 2 is going for

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I actually like the taming its more fun beating a person on the head with a steel club than just sitting on a ledge shooting

lyric tendon
#

Rarely people play conan for the fun survival stuff

Most people play them for kinky RP

lyric tendon
#

Kicking a wyvern with a horse just to get milk is fun than whatever boring shitte conan do for their tames

gusty turret
#

I like the combat in Conan overall better

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Way more diverse and dynamic weapon system

lyric tendon
#

ATLAS is the closest you get to that kind of the fighting system but in ARK

I have seen servers porting ARK creatures in there

gusty turret
#

Atlas is basically just Ark but without the effort

lyric tendon
#

Wellll yes but no

gusty turret
#

Wasn't it literally just made by wildcard people calling themselves something else

lyric tendon
#

The building system in ASA is literally from ATLAS

gloomy bolt
#

It was made by the same people, in fact originally you could glitch atlas to use the exact same ui as Ark

lyric tendon
#

Their ship combat is way better than base raids imo

gusty turret
#

I haven't even touched building in ASA yet im waiting to upgrade my ram

lyric tendon
#

not to mention the Grid system, no worrying about getting spawn camped

gusty turret
#

Conan went from using pieces like ark to just using a hammer

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Which i kinda like less but

lyric tendon
#

I hate Conan's building system

I rather have my pieces ready than be encumbered by materials

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And sometimes forget something whem you want to build an important bench

gloomy bolt
#

The best part about atlas was the original ship building, before they went to the modular stuff. The ships could be amazing in PVE or bare bones for PvP

gusty turret
#

I also just like having my pieces ready though its neater

lyric tendon
gusty turret
#

They need to revamp ships in ark

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Make them not so buggy and laggy

gloomy bolt
#

The grid map was cool too, had to sail to get different rss, but if you wanted to sail around the “atlas” it would take days and each server you crossed was different.

I did one season with a giant tribe on pvp, it was some of the most fun I’ve had in these games ever

lyric tendon
gloomy bolt
#

Center has a lot of water space, ship battles would work there

lyric tendon
gloomy bolt
lyric tendon
gusty turret
#

I want trains too, and give us destructible terrain while they're at it

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Ww1 simulator

lyric tendon
#

Ah yes, more meshing options

gusty turret
#

Theres already infinite meshing options adding another isn't gonna make it any worse

gloomy bolt
#

I guess I don’t understand the appeal to trains and tracks. If they already know there is a pillar spam problem, why encourage tribes to build railroad networks through out the maps

gusty turret
#

Every time wildcard fixes one they make another might as well just add more

gloomy bolt
#

lol your not wrong

lyric tendon
gusty turret
#

I handcuff people to chairs then place a vault on their head so they can't escape

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And no one can reach them either

lyric tendon
#

Highest PC is bad enough trying to render a game

Adding terrain destruction makes it worse, how do you think games with that kind of system are exclusively PVE games with limited ammount of players per server

gloomy bolt
#

… ok if we can handcuff people to chairs on the railroad tracks, I’m on board again…

bold dove
#

You tame slaves.

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(and before anyone that doesn't have context asks. Yes, the game's main mechanic is literally slavery)

viscid quarry
#

Hello, I'm new in ark and I really need help. I had a lot of tamed animals, a house and a lot of things build. The game crash and when I got back everything were gone! I started all back to day 1 !! OMG!! I still have the same level in my user but all my animals and things are gone. What can I do to fix this? Does anyone here went to the same issue? I'm playing on my Xbox serie X.

bold dove
gusty turret
lament raft
#

Unwilling Friends

gusty turret
#

Really I'm just saving them from the dangerous desert, out there they're at risk with me they get nice warm meals and the safety of a castle

lyric tendon
nocturne field
lament raft
#

Involuntary Volunteers

low trellis
#

Why are dinos on earth? Weren't they specific to the Arks?

bold dove
sullen tulip
#

I know that aberration malfunctioned the create the environment but, how did it malfunction in the first place? lack of overseer?

lament raft
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destroyed the control platform and sent the ark into disarray

sullen tulip
#

Ahhh, I see. Thank you!

low trellis
lament raft
#

the proto arks were proof of concept

sullen tulip
#

Question about Genesis part 1 and 2 . I assume part 2 was real (not a simulation) but did gen 1 happen or was it all a simulation or dream?

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Like was it essentially an isekai or a program on a computer?

lyric tendon
#

Gen 1 is a sim that do happen since it's a system of the ship as well hence some of the Gen 2 missions are in a sim and Nida just mod them in her spare time

More of a program

gusty turret
#

Its more real than dreaming but less real than reality

rain dock
#

Bro just summed up a simulation in new words 🤣

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Gen1 was virtual reality, it's not a new concept

gusty turret
#

You right

gusty turret
#

I still can't get over how the survivors are just meat flash drives

lament raft
#

all humans are meat flash drives, we just haven't worked out the adapters yet

rain dock
#

I mean, the hardware is different

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They are making actual hardware based on the neural structure of brains though, it's pretty neat stuff

gusty turret
sinful yarrow
#

souls are a figment of the matrix, human brain works on electrical impulses

gusty turret
#

I think the brain can work on electrical impulses and there still be a soul

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Im not here to figure out the details of how that stuff works, too much thinking about a concept that is literally incomprehensible and unprovable for me

sinful yarrow
#

im yet to be convinced the matrix isnt real

gusty turret
#

Like the movie?

nocturne field
#

We are animals. Vicious, horrible, loving, caring, animals. We have hate, envy, desire, depression, and all these emotions are felt by animals. We just don’t recognize the patterns that they use to convey emotions. Dogs look at us confused because we don’t sniff eachother and lick eachother as a greeting. We extend limbs and bare our teeth, which would be a threat worthy of fighting to most other animals. We aren’t “conscious” or “extremely intelligent”, we’re just different than all other animals. We can’t track down deer without help, we can’t tell what others are feeling without extreme displays of emotion. But dogs, deer, wolf, birds, lizards, and all other animals can. They’re different than us, and no smarter or dumber in their respective fields. Souls don’t exist, it’s simply our brains wanting to feel a connection to what’s outside of our world. That’s what religion is too. Our brains wanting, hoping, that a somewhat fictional story will come true and a flying glowing thing who can erase all of reality in an instant will come down and save us.

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That’s just reality, no matter your belief.

gusty turret
#

Wdym we aren't extremely intelligent that's literally how we are different from other animals, we don't have the strength or speed or sharp teeth but we have our brains, we can make weapons and tools and plan and strategize, also idk what people you've seen but people definitely can track down deer and read others emotions without extreme displays of emotions but pop off i guess

bold dove
gusty turret
#

Im confused too

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Even if there was literally any other point made you can't just say religion and souls don't exist thats what we're trying to figure out we don't know that for sure its hard to pick out an undefinable topic that is experienced differently by every single person that ever has or ever will live

hard zenith
#

This is supposed to be about ark lore why are y’all getting religious here

buoyant raft
#

ayo what

hard zenith
#

I have literally no idea how they got to this point bro

buoyant raft
#

I just came over here to say I hate rockwell

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(I would say worse things about him if it weren't for the server filter)

buoyant raft
hard zenith
#

🤨

buoyant raft
#

anyway

hard zenith
#

Rockwell is pretty mean

buoyant raft
#

I hate rockwell

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I want to nuke him

hard zenith
#

We had to lose the hlna for him to be gone

buoyant raft
#

damn

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isn't the auto-pilot from walle lookin ass Helena reincarnate

hard zenith
#

More like a copy of her

buoyant raft
#

ah I see

hard zenith
#

Helena is prolly on earth overseeing the recovery

buoyant raft
#

they didn't exactly make it subtle though naming it "HLNA" and all

hard zenith
#

So they made hlna to oversee the expansion

#

The point of Hana’s story is for her to become her own “person”

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Hence what she says at the end of gen 2

buoyant raft
#

I never played either genesis dlcs

hard zenith
#

🤨

buoyant raft
#

money

#

I had literally every other dlc though

hard zenith
#

I bought all of them but I haven’t even played scorched earth yet lol

buoyant raft
#

scorched earth was the first dlc

hard zenith
#

Yes

buoyant raft
#

lwait no

#

center was

hard zenith
#

Second ark in the story

#

Ig center was but I only count the story maps tbh

buoyant raft
#

but scorched earth was the first story one

hard zenith
#

I just use those other ones for messing around with commands and stuff

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Except fjordur

buoyant raft
#

what's the story for scorched earth anyway? Iirc it doesn't have a very climatic ending

gusty turret
buoyant raft
#

or does it just canonically exist and that's it

gusty turret
#

She wanted to be with him, to keep him company in his final moments

hard zenith
#

True

buoyant raft
#

why? Rockwell's a jerk

hard zenith
#

But she did have to sacrifice herself for it

hard zenith
#

Though he didn’t agree with the sentiment

buoyant raft
#

oh yea

gusty turret
buoyant raft
#

oh right explorer notes exist

hard zenith
#

Yup

#

There was the whole Egyptian lady’s story there

gusty turret
hard zenith
#

There was an old town there that was destroyed by the ark

buoyant raft
#

Helena seems like a really nice person

hard zenith
#

That’s the point

gusty turret
#

She also had to stay to make sure the rings separated properly

buoyant raft
#

and she's been though a lot

hard zenith
#

She never gave up on Rockwell

buoyant raft
#

I want to give her a hug

#

she did a good job

gusty turret
#

I don't think Helenadeus was a good person but i think HLNA maintained the humanity and kindness that Helenadeus no longer knew

hard zenith
buoyant raft
#

wait so what happened to human Helena?

hard zenith
#

She became homo deus

gusty turret
#

She ascended

buoyant raft
#

ah

hard zenith
#

She is the one who talks to you in the first cutscene of the maps

buoyant raft
#

do we know what actually happens when you ascend?

hard zenith
#

And she is the one that keeps bringing your character back

buoyant raft
#

or is it just some spiritual mystery

hard zenith
#

You get put on a new ark

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And eventually go to homo deus

buoyant raft
buoyant raft
gusty turret
#

Like imagine becoming a mindflayer in d&d

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Your entire body becomes one, no independent parts doing their thing, you lose your soul and become a mere imprint of yourself that eventually fades

hard zenith
#

It’s when you transcend humanity and become and eternal being of data pretty much

#

You have no physical form but have eternal life

buoyant raft
#

ohh

hard zenith
#

And people fade from going insane

#

It’s hard to just be a mind for hundreds of years

gusty turret
#

Its not going insane they just kinda slip from reality

buoyant raft
#

so like your body is left behind when your "soul" or whatever it actually is becomes preserved and part of the universe

hard zenith
#

It’s sorta a mix of the two ig

hard zenith
#

You know the blue lady in the cutscenes?

gusty turret
#

Idk why she still has a human head in the extinction ending I don't think thats supposed to happen

buoyant raft
#

yes

hard zenith
#

That’s a homo deus

hard zenith
buoyant raft
#

what is a homo deus though
you said Helena became one

#

is that what you turn into when you ascend

hard zenith
#

No

gusty turret
#

Yes

hard zenith
#

Only on extinction

buoyant raft
#

guh?

gusty turret
#

What we call ascension isn't actually ascension

#

We're just transferring between the two arks

buoyant raft
#

OH

hard zenith
#

The other maps use a teleportation system to “ascend” you to a new ark

gusty turret
#

True ascension is what happens to Helena in the hall of ascension on Extinction

buoyant raft
#

ok that makes more sense

#

I didn't play extinction,, what happens

gusty turret
#

Uhhh Santiago dies Diana comes back Helena ascends Mei and Diana become mek lesbians together

hard zenith
#

At the end of extinction you have saved the whole world and so you get turned into a homo deus as you no longer need your physical form

gusty turret
#

It kind of reads like a Harry Potter movie

hard zenith
#

And she is brought back to help on extinction after Helena goes homo deus

#

Then everyone is killed on extinction

buoyant raft
#

does extinction take place before genesis or after genesis

hard zenith
buoyant raft
#

or are they different timelines or sm

hard zenith
#

Could be at the same time of after

#

Depends on if you count the survivor there as the person who saved earth

#

It’s more of a matter of perspective

#

But it is at least after aberration

buoyant raft
#

man I wish I got more into the lore before asa lol

#

I uninstalled ase to save space

hard zenith
#

🤨

buoyant raft
#

cause with all the dlcs together it was like 200+ gb

hard zenith
#

It is a big game so it’s understandable

#

Yeah

buoyant raft
#

over half my hard drive 😭

hard zenith
#

I have like 230 gbs as my whole hard drive lol

#

I play mostly on Xbox lol

buoyant raft
#

I'm getting an external hard drive soon though
but mostly for modding because dev kit is literally more space than my entire hard drive has which is insane

#

my hard drive is like 349gb

#

dev kit is JUST over that

hard zenith
#

Ima be honest with you, I’ve never played Asa lol

#

I just help everyone because I have VERY extensive knowledge on ase

#

And most of the problems have similar solutions

buoyant raft
#

ah
I honestly can't say I recommend it if you're satisfied with what ase has
in that case I'd wait until asa has more content

hard zenith
#

Don’t tell the people in bobs with probs lol

buoyant raft
#

lol

#

anyway
Ima need to research some ark lore

hard zenith
#

You should

#

It’s very interesting

buoyant raft
#

I mentioned dev kit cuz I want to get into modding, and I'd be happy with myself if I could make it in line with the lore of the game

#

Is there any lore surrounding why the dinosaurs on the Ark are the way they are? Like why they're different from what Earth's dinosaurs looked like (ie. giga being MASSIVE, dilos being tiny)

#

they kinda resemble Jurassic World's dinosaurs, which are genetically engineered with tidbits of modern animal dna (hence why their raptors are featherless)

hard zenith
#

Experiments in recreating life

#

They needed more fauna for the world to even exist so they used the species which they had records of

gusty turret
#

Rockwell accesses the genesis ship via the uplink Mei and Diana open for Helenadeus at arat prime at the end of Extinction

deft hedge
# hard zenith Ima be honest with you, I’ve never played Asa lol

Asa in my opinion is kinda a scam,it's basically ark but a little better but my big problem is that the announcement of Asa ruined syntac,who had played Ase for 6 years and had gotten two comical characters in his series,Winston and Mystique,it was real heart breaking for me because I grew up to those characters and he had to leave them behind,and everyone forgot about ase and left for Asa like ase never happened and now ase is history,some of the old servers have been retired,and Asa is expensive

hard zenith
#

What hapoened to those characters? I don’t really watch syntac

deft hedge
#

Their history

#

Gone.poof

#

Winston MIGHT come back

#

But he said Mystique will not

#

But nobody can recreate those characters because of the fact they will never be the exact same

low briar
#

Youtuber OCs =/= Official Lore

thorn ore
#

they probably know that
at least i hope so

low briar
#

I dunno. Every day we have people asking if Ark2 is only PvE/Singleplayer based on YouTuber lies and intentional inaccuracies for views and clickbait

lyric tendon
lyric tendon
gusty turret
#

Are we pretending like the giganotosaurus wasn't massive?

lament raft
#

the giga was big, but only very slightly bigger than the t.rex

lyric tendon
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Gameplay ≠ Lore, not care

gusty turret
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23 feet tall and 40 feet long is pretty big

lament raft
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even the rex in the game is quite a bit upscaled from the real life version

gusty turret
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Not as big as in game but you want to make a predator big and scary

lament raft
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some dinos like the megalosaurus are more or less accurate in size

gusty turret
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If you want accurate dino sizes go play like path of titans or something they're probably accurate ark is a game entirely based in the existence of a magic space resource

lament raft
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the ark rex is roughly 3x the size of a real rex would have been

gusty turret
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Playing on a path of titans server that has compys is terrifying

lament raft
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i'm not saying it's a bad thing

gusty turret
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Those things run at the speed of light and can easily take down a big predator

lament raft
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there's lots of inaccuracies but it's still a fun game

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like raptor hands

gusty turret
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Raptor feet pics

lament raft
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the way the raptors hold their hands would snap the arms of a real raptor

gusty turret
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Ive never cared about the accuracy of dinos its just a cool game

lament raft
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the deinons hold their hands accurately

gusty turret
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I haven't actually played in so long i don't remember what their hands look like

lament raft
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in game raptors hold their hands palms down

gusty turret
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Don't they do like trex arms

lament raft
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they hang under the body with the hands left hanging from the wrist with the palm in a down position

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that's not something a real raptor's bone structure would allow

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the deinon are more accurate because their hands rest palms facing each other

gusty turret
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I like carno hands

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They need to give carnos a skin that gives them boxing gloves

lament raft
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i like the carno mating dance video

gusty turret
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Are mating animations canon or do they just poop out babies

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Do you think the baby on scorched happened because they forgot and left mating on while standing next to each other

lament raft
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they were coded but they never added them to the game

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but i imagine that mating works generally the same as in real life in lore

gusty turret
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Sometimes i get a YouTube ad of a game where it shows a cyborg mammoth mounting another cyborg mammoth

gusty turret
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If i wrote a video game id make random gameplay features lore just to confuse people

buoyant raft
buoyant raft
rain dock
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Also. His last video got 122k views, so he is hardly ruined

deft hedge
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In my opinion jerk

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I didn't say he was completely ruined,that series is ruined

rain dock
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Yeah, like he didn't already give up on it

deft hedge
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I know that

tired mantle
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I get upset every time I lose an otter. Doesn't really matter if I have one or like five, or five hundred, losing an otter sucks.

I get sentimental really easy with ark creatures. I wonder if any of the survivors were like that.

rain dock
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Rockwell had a jerboa

tired mantle
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Probably his only morality pet besides Helena, who was a non-animal example.

rain dock
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What is that supposed to mean 🤣

tired mantle
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Difficult to explain at a glance. A moment.

deft hedge
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Ok,I guess I was overreacting but still man,6 years syntac had those two,if you had some ase dinos for 6 years,I'm sure it would be at least a little sad if you had to leave those dinos behind

tired mantle
# rain dock What is that supposed to mean 🤣

While the term likely originates within TvTropes, it's kinda like a reason for being so kind. I haven't seen much of scorched earth's Rockwell notes, but I imagine that's where he started to really lose his nut before abberation.. not that he entirely had his nut by the end of the island.

rain dock
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I mean. I still don't get it but yeah

rain dock
deft hedge
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Wait,that has to be fake,right?he used his thyla Mystique for a long time but he only kept Winston as a completely useless pet

tired mantle
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Not like they're really going anywhere, per say. Just shelved until he has a reason to go back, right?

deft hedge
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Unless the server their on is official

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Then poof

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Gone forever

tired mantle
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I.. don't watch syntac. Just not that interested in his brand of shenanigans.

rain dock
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Me neither, but thinking that he is emotionally attached to specific dinos is kind of funny ngl

fallow sapphire
rain dock
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I would say it was 100% for the videos

fallow sapphire
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I’m not sure I’d say 100% for the videos, though I’d say most of it was yes

rain dock
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He is a moderate to average ark player with a flair for storytelling and video editing, and he is good (somewhat) at keeping an audience

fallow sapphire
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Cause in reality it was more branding for the channel (thus why he brought them back in every series) than sentimental value

rain dock
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Yeah, that's literally what it was

fallow sapphire
rain dock
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It's like saying football team owners are sentimental towards their mascots, yeah not really

fallow sapphire
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Anywho how did we get to a point of discussing syntac in the lore channel?

rain dock
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Because Rockwell had a jerboa before he went insane, and syntac had an otter 🤣

fallow sapphire
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Did he? I don’t remember Rockwell having a pet

rain dock
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😱

tired mantle
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He also had an argie named Athena, memory serving.. or was it Archimedes..

rain dock
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I was waiting for an hour to tell that joke and it was completely lost on my audience

fallow sapphire
rain dock
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Who probably got it killed

tired mantle
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Oh, it was Archimedes, I was right.

That said, now I'm reminded of Meet The Doctor from TF2.

rain dock
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Beach bobs get everything killed and Helena was a beach bob

deft hedge
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He did say "man,it feels wrong to leave them here" but he could be faking all that because after his finally video he immediately changed to Asa but also he sounded hesitant when he showed his two dinos he had for most of those 6 years and even rode his Thila Mystique with his otter Winston for a little bit before ending the series

rain dock
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Sympathy points with his audience. And maybe a smidgen of nostalgia

deft hedge
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Ok then well let's get back to the lore

gusty turret
tired mantle
dim palm
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Is there a lore reason why the obelisks on aberration turned purple?

sinful yarrow
dim palm
sinful yarrow
dim palm
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I mean I know it got nuked and what not

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But like, how they got off aberration and who built the portal

sinful yarrow
dim palm
gusty turret
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I can't recall a lore reason but if i had to guess its some form of symbolism for Rockwell's influence over the ark

gusty turret
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I don't remember either but im also not trying to provide a direct answer

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If i recall correctly the signal was what they used to jump into the overseer platform but it may have also been what they used to teleport back to Earth

fallow sapphire
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i believe it was what they used to go to earth, or more directly what interested them to try and get there

covert oak
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They below up the forcefield/bubble in doing this, and thus the entire ark became irradiated by the sun and forced everyone into the caves.
They also removed the overseer on that ark in doing it, which is why element junky Rockwell eventually became the overseer after you defeated him and he fell down into the bottom of the ark and integrated into the system (prolly why the obs are purple)

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Abb, like earth. Seems overly infected by Element whereas the rest of the arks have the element contained/limited to just like the tek rooms/boss arenas. This is prolly due to rockwells integration into being the new overseer of the system

dim palm
covert oak
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yeah now that you mention it sounds right, they intended to give them a lot of ele

shadow lagoon
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stay on topic

deft hedge
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Oh ya

gusty turret
deft hedge
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Guys,I have a ark lore question.why is the abberation ark so wore down and more busted than my downstairs bathroom?

gusty turret
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What the tek tribe did to the overseer is the equivalent of what you did to that bathroom after having Taco Bell

deft hedge
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My mom and dad have never bought taco bell for me and my stupidstinkyhateable brother

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But for real,what happened to it?

gusty turret
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I feel like that question was already a short few messages ago

deft hedge
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Ok,but why is there some metal pieces that broke of it

dim palm
gusty turret
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Theres a lot of broken metal pieces around Aberration that are broken for a lot of different reasons

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Its actually only like two separate reasons but

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The bomb and Rockwell

deft hedge
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Oh kay,but what did @dim palm mean by "I got bomed"

gusty turret
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The tek tribe took a bomb up to the overseer and detonated it

deft hedge
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Oh Kay I get it now

dim palm
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Yes that is why aberration is fricked

deft hedge
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Bro abberation looks like me when I get homework,broken and weird

gusty turret
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Me when Aberration is probably the most beautiful map

lament raft
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its pretty

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i love the center underworld

gusty turret
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Also big shocker that a map called Aberration would be a little weird

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I wonder what the definition for that word is🤔🤔🤔

glad crow
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I love playing aberration. You'll lose all your worldly possessions to something in an instant, then respawn and just think, "at least the view is great" before promptly being eaten by a 50 metre snake in the easiest spawn zone.

I'm not even being sarcastic, I love it.

gusty turret
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Yet somehow its still better than island's easiest spawn zone

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Like portal may have basilisks but it has a load of meat shields to kite it into to lose it

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Island you'll just spawn and get eaten by a spino and 3 alpha raptors

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And island is also kinda ugly besides like the redwoods

glad crow
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I wouldn't call the island ugly, though that is subjective. It certainly doesn't compare to the unearthly allure of aberration, but it is quite aesthetically pleasing.

sinful yarrow
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i like the island, for the content(caves, 3 booses an ascesiion), certaintly wudnt call it ugly though

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espicaly not now in asa, with the added bits an pieces on mountains, ruins etc

dim palm
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yo is it just me or is the asa ascension mid as hell compared to the original

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it looks terrible and feels like it lacks soul like the original had

fallow sapphire
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On max settings it still looks fairly solid, but I do feel it needed to be redone entirely, not just brought into ue5

dim palm
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I mean yeah the original wasn’t perfect but this new one is far worse

fallow sapphire
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I think it’s just the intense glow that does it for me… cause I mean it’s literally the same cutscene just in ue5, i just dont think it translated well to being brought over

bold dove
dim palm
bold dove
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The ending?

dim palm
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Where you’re flying thru space going to scorched earth

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Look at the original vs the one in ASA

bold dove
dim palm
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It’s “the same” but it’s very different

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Things look weird

bold dove
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I don't see it.

dim palm
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Like it genuinely looks so boring

bold dove
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It's literally the fucking same cutscene.

dim palm
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It really isn’t

bold dove
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It is.
I have the devkit.
They just ported it over and changed the assets.

dim palm
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Then what they changed looks terrible

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Let me check it and give you examples

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A big thing is your hands don’t turn into those nerve looking things

bold dove
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I'm looking at ASE's ascension right now, and you just tern into hexagons. Just like in ASA.

dim palm
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oh my fucking god you’re right

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What the flip

bold dove
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It's literally just the same cutscene, but with better assets.
You seeing stuff, man. 😅

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They may though remove the veins in ASA's Aberration ascension.
Due to the fact there's still a lot of people thinking we turn into a Homo-Deus at the end of Extinction.
I can see them removing any traces of that (outside of the Homo-Deus skin) to make sure newer people don't think we turn into a Homo-Deus.

fallow sapphire
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I kinda doubt they’ll put that thought into it

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Would it be cool? 100%

dim palm
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@bold dove can I dm you something

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It’s photos of the ascension

bold dove
bold dove
fallow sapphire
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I’d love to be wrong, cause it’d be nice for the Scorched Ascension proportions to be correct

bold dove
fallow sapphire
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Fair points

bold dove
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Oh, yeah.
And the fact in the Hall of History, the boss arena windows are holographic instead of crystal clear now. (which I'm assuming is cause the windows are actually cameras within the arenas, instead of being literal windows)

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Just the fact they went out of their way for minor details like this does give me a bit of hope.

fallow sapphire
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Fair enough, I do respect that and it does give me some hope that I am wrong

fallow sapphire
dim palm
bold dove
# fallow sapphire I did absolutely love that detail change, it was so cool to see my first time th...

Stuff like showing the Hall of History in the character creator, so new players can be a bit more interested in the mystery and lore is nice.
I'm really fucking jealous. Cause imagine playing ARK blindly with friends, and you all go to the Hall of History for the first time.
And then you finally see the platform your character was made on, and flashing holograms of different humans in the background.
That's environmental storytelling at its peak.

dim palm
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Do y’all prefer normal tek or genesis ship tek?

gusty turret
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Genesis ship tbh

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I prefer the more industrial utility feel

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Like stryders, exo-meks, the slim armor

fallow sapphire
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I prefer the normal, I like the scrappy feel

gusty turret
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I don't like how the normal is so bulky

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Like its combat armor so it makes sense i just don't like it

fallow sapphire
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The only part i dont like about it’s bulkiness is the jetpack

gusty turret
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Like you have a superpowerful material but you still have to make it fat for it to be protective

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It was more slim like Iron man's nanotech suits id like it more

stiff loom
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When y’all fought the overseer for the first time and went through the hall of history, did any of you wonder why there was Pangaea, present earth, and earth with all the corruption, and a ghost guy (homo deus)or even what the overseer was at all? I know I did.

dim palm
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What?

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Anyways does anyone know why they named the tek rifle “tek rifle” instead of something unique like other tek weapons (tek railgun, tek Phase pistol)

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Maybe they coulda called it the tek plasma rifle or plasma caster

gusty turret
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Because its a tek rifle

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Tek plasma rifle would be redundant

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Yes that is the point

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It is firing energy projectiles

bold dove
dim palm
bold dove
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URE tek rifle is the 'A.P.R 75 Stingrey'
And the Element-war/Possibly Federation one is the 'AR-234: Titanhammer'

gusty turret
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Thats cool

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Where does that come from?

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I assumed we were just talking about what wildcard called the engrams

bold dove
gusty turret
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Swag

dim palm
bold dove
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I'd like to see prototype tek.

dim palm
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That’s an interesting idea

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Question

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Are engrams canon

proper herald
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Hello

bold dove
# dim palm Are engrams canon

Engrams if I recall right are actually real.
Engrams are a specific type of neuron that're dedicated to storing memories.

dim palm
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I see

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So that means us unlocking tekgrams after beating bosses is canon

bold dove
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So yes.
I assume that whenever you learn a new engram, that's that neuron being reconnected to be able to rely the rest of the information.

dim palm
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Okay well

bold dove
dim palm
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I was gonna say, if it wasn’t, the tek we use in game is just tek the player made. But now that I know it’s canon idk why the URE would make tekgrams for us to unlock that isn’t really URE tek

dim palm
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Hey the arks we’re designed to test survivors so they could kill the titans right?

bold dove
# dim palm Hey the arks we’re designed to test survivors so they could kill the titans righ...

Yesn't.
Their primary purpose was to reseed Earth. 'But' if a survivor so happens to reach the specific criteria, then they're beamed back to Earth to help fight off the Corruption.
Downside is, the Corruption only got stronger with age, and so did the criteria. And so the System kind of made it that the ARK's are an endless loop, with no survivor being able to prove to the System they could take on the Corruption.

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One of the reasons why the Gateway project was important.
It finally broke the endless loop, even if it was cheating.

dim palm
lament raft
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to continue testing

bold dove
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Yep

dim palm
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I mean I assumed that but like

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Idk nvm

lament raft
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each ark is different, with a new set of challenges and creatures to test survivors against

bold dove
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Well, different to a degree.

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Seems like the ARK's aren't literally 'all' unique.
It seems there's more like different station models. As Helena stated that she saw multiple ARK's just like the one she grew to know.

dim palm
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Yeah they’re probably all similar just with different landscapes and guardians

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With different Dino’s and stuff

bold dove
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I'd assume each one would be slightly different, yeah.
Cause the Scorched ARK we go to is obviously a one of a kind, cause I wouldn't imagine ever Overseer that controls a Scorched ARK to say 'eh, fuck it. Lets rip open a giant ass scar in the ARK.'

dim palm
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Yeah I doubt they’re identical

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I mean they’re literally just parts of the earth ripped up

bold dove
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Well yes, but again. If what Helena says is to be taken literally, and the ascensions have anything to say. They're all similar in landscapes.

dim palm
bold dove
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At the end of The Island, Scorched, and Aberration, you can see multiple Island ARK's.
All copy and pastes.

dim palm
bold dove
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So if that's actually canon to the lore, and not just Wildcard not wanting to make 200+ different ARK's. Then yeah, they're all the same.
And again, Helena flat out stated 'That the ARK's she sees in space look just like the one I was on'
So again, if taken literally. They're all the same.

dim palm
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We literally see scorched and ab out the observation deck, but we know from the ascension they’re NOT that close

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The thing is

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We see ab specifically out the observation deck

bold dove
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And?

dim palm
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Aberration is one of a kind cuz it was effed up a specific way

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And we KNOW aberration is not that close to the island in space (from the ascensions)

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I’d honestly bet on just reused assets

bold dove
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Correct.
It's one of a kind due to it being blown up.
But that doesn't mean there can't be multiple versions of The Island, Scorched, pre-blown up Aberration.

dim palm
bold dove
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"There, floating outside the window and surrounded by machinery, was the very island that I had been living on, and it too was orbiting high above the Earth along with countless other stations just like it."
The exact quote from Helena.

dim palm
dim palm
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Not the inside with the landscape

bold dove
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"was the very island"

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"was the very island that I had been living on"

dim palm
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Just the station, they look identical

bold dove
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Yeah, no. Sadly it's literal.

dim palm
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Ah well, idk then. I hope they change that because having just 3 variations is lame asf

bold dove
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We don't know how many variations there are.

dim palm
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I like to think there are full tropical jungle arks, arctic arks, swamp arks,

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I like to think they’re all unique

bold dove
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Cope

dim palm
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Huh

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??

bold dove
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Cope:
Verb '(of a person) deal effectively with something difficult.'
"his ability to cope with stress"

dim palm
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I know but why the toxicity

bold dove
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Saying 'cope' isn't toxic. 💀

dim palm
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Sorry I thought you were, it’s usually used in a toxic manner