lore-nerdz

[bold dove]

Especially when said giant lizards harness different elements.

[valid gale]

Sh you know what they has to deal with Argys

So the ark went from big chicks

To fire breathing lizards

Gtg bye

Sorry

[bold dove]

The worse thing they dealt with before where mantises.
Which are a bit more of a threat in-canon then in-game, since they have almost human intelligence.

[gusty turret]

call it moral until you find the glitch about the poor people who got stuck in an endless death

[bold dove]

Skill issue

Also, it's literally in the name.
It was a 'glitch'
A unintended system that went wrong

[gusty turret]

The extinction chronicles actually makes me wonder

Helena claims the system has existed for eons

Does that imply its been billions of years since the tek war or am i just heavily mistaken on what an eon is

The System has existed for eons. Considering all the variables, it has adapted well. Much like you, it has toiled to reach its goals, and it has overcome many obstacles. However the scale is larger. The struggle is longer.

In organic beings, age can slow reflexes and dull thought. Not so with the System. The speed and efficiency of its calculations are not in doubt. One could argue they’re the problem.

If a function has a 0.001% chance to cause an error, but it’s only run a dozen times, an aberration is unlikely. But a trillion times? Then it’s inevitable. More time, more errors. A drop turns to a trickle. A trickle to a flood.

As I said, everything is finite. The System is no exception.

[bold dove]

Eons just means 'a very long time ago'
A few thousand years can be an eon.

Since the Sun is still it's normal size (from what little we can see) I'd say it's more a few thousand then billions of years.

[lament raft]

thousands of years sounds accurate as far as the story goes, since there's still human ruins on extinction

[bold dove]

Well, we don't know if tek 'can' even rust or decompose.
Since Wildcard has stated it's "the strongest substance in the universe" during Gen2's marketing, I would say it could probably withstand the planet being destroyed.

[lament raft]

well, there's definitely plenty of human structures rusting and decomposing

[bold dove]

Hell, Aberration crashed, sure. But it's still in better condition then our ships that we've launched in real life after crashing.

[lament raft]

plus the plant growth in Sanctuary

it's overtaken things but not completely covered everything

[bold dove]

Probably after a few billion, I can see the Earth just swallowing the ruins due to the crest moving and stuff.
But again, they're in a lot more better condition then if our buildings where to go unmaintained for a few thousand.

[lament raft]

Sanctuary is in a rather dry environment

which leads to very little corrosion

[bold dove]

We don't know how it was 'pre' dead though.

Since there's no definitive location for Extinction. It could've been near the ocean, or somewhere moist.

[lament raft]

yeah

i've gone outside the boundaries on sp and wow it's actually HUGE

like that huge crater you see from the desert cave could fit the Extinction boundaries about 10 times over

was kinda sad after finding that out, they kinda shorted us on map size

[bold dove]

There's a lot of cut content for Extinction.

[gusty turret]

Free roaming titans😒

[bold dove]

Obviously there's the volcanic wasteland we never got from Aberration, then there was going to be a legit bog-like biome.
Seemed like the Titans where originally going to be grappable, and you could climb on them.

[gusty turret]

It was never really stated to my knowledge but it was definitely implied from the teaser

[bold dove]

In the notes it was

They canonically where always on the map, hunting the group

[gusty turret]

Yeah but like in the teaser the compass starts screwing up then the ice titan just comes over the ledge

I think the map could've stood to be like double as big... Or at least like the important parts

They put far too much wasteland

The area where the wyverns and gigas and stuff spawn is pointless no one has any reason to be there ever

It would've been cool if you had to like descend into the crater to fight the king titan or something

I love the open world boss fight thing they tried but it was implemented so poorly

[bold dove]

Actually, that's a great hotspot for XP

[lament raft]

yeah the ramp up to the king titan fight is neat, i like the idea of marching an army up there through the gauntlet. but it's rendered entirely moot because the map also added cryopods

[gusty turret]

No one ever does that they just kill corrupted spinos in the hotsprings or they go to abb and kill spinos

[lament raft]

i go there to farm a bunch of corrupted hearts

[bold dove]

You say that, but a few people in Journey's Core did that, and some people in my old server did that as well.

[gusty turret]

I have no idea what journeys core is

And i just see people do osds for hearts

[bold dove]

Neds server.

[lament raft]

the OSDs are good for hearts, but sometimes you don't have any red ones and you're not ready for purple

[gusty turret]

I don't think you can ever be ready for purples

Unless you have official Gigas that do a trillion damage

[bold dove]

Skill issue

[lament raft]

i have a carch right now that solos purples

at full bloodthirst it does about 13k each hit

[somber hamlet]

I would only use a giga for that

[bold dove]

Wildcard: "nah, we're not making a creature to outrival the Giga. We're trying to make a creature that's onpar to the giga"
-Proceeds to make the Carchar literally better in everyway then a Giga.

[gusty turret]

I also haven't played extinction since like a year before carchs at least so im still in the era of making a shield wall of gigas around the drop

[somber hamlet]

its not better in every way lol not even close

[lament raft]

the carch is slower to start than the giga

[gusty turret]

I also implemented some metal spike walls to surprising effectiveness

[lament raft]

base stats the giga completely outclasses the carch

[bold dove]

But the Carchar doesn't have the stamina of a 5-year old

[lament raft]

true

[gusty turret]

Or the temper of a 5 year old

[rain dock]

Except speed and rage

[bold dove]

Correct, but give the carchar time to get it's bloodrage to max, and it's damage is onpar.

[rain dock]

Greater even

[lament raft]

plus faster, tighter turn radius, more stamina

[bold dove]

Only reason why Giga's are still used, is cause they've been mutated to the ground for 7+ years.
Carchar's have only been recently added.

[rain dock]

A capped carch is better at things like osds and meat runs, a giga is best at a fob

Probably

[lament raft]

and bloodrage boosts health regen

[bold dove]

So yeah, a bloodraged Carchar is better in almost everyway then a Giga

[gusty turret]

You can't deny the effectiveness of a giga

[bold dove]

I can when I have a Carchar to trade for.

[rain dock]

I mean, yes I can

[gusty turret]

Especially since bloodrage is very situational

[lament raft]

giga is easier to tame

[gusty turret]

That is not true in the slightest

[bold dove]

Sure, but it doesn't have half as good of stats that a Carchar does when raged.
I'd say the harder taming is much more worth it.

[rain dock]

Giga only has one area it excels at now, and that is giga rushing a fob. And even then it'll only be slightly better than the carch

[lament raft]

giga is just trap and drug

[gusty turret]

Carchs just take a single baby rex and youre done you just have to kill things and roar which you can just use more unclaimed baby rexs

[lament raft]

i dunno if it was server settings but it took me months to tame my first carch

[bold dove]

To be fair, this can't be done in PvE

[lament raft]

yeah

[gusty turret]

Skill issue

[rain dock]

Pve taming a charch is worse by far than pvp taming it

[rain dock]

Settings issue

[lament raft]

and now they made it so you can't feed it while it's trapped? or did i hear wrong

[bold dove]

Cause at least you can use your own children in PvP to tame it.

It's like leveling up.
In PvP, you can just farm baby giga's for a tame to kill.
In PvE, you actually have to go out.

[gusty turret]

You can its just sometimes their agro is dumb and you have to leave render to fix it

[lament raft]

ah

[bold dove]

They did, but it only half works

[gusty turret]

There is nothing moral about ark dinosaurs it consists of inbreeding and murder

[lament raft]

when i tried in my last server, i could get to like 80% tamed, then i'd have to do the trust feed again. but at that point the food had dropped below 50% and it ignored any corpse i brought to it

[rain dock]

I am looking forward to dinos in ark2 avoiding traps

[bold dove]

Yep.
And?

[gusty turret]

Captain fatdog is gonna make some mega traps

Exactly who cares about murdering your own children

[bold dove]

Yep.

[lament raft]

i have never wanted to toss my laptop across the room so much as when i got a 150 carch to 92% tamed, and then it became untameable

i stopped playing for a week after that

[brazen sparrow]

It was in promo material, pretty sure

[valid gale]

ah yes then we got the tek strutres that can be destoryed by an angry centipeed

[bold dove]

To be fair, that's some corrosive acid

[valid gale]

planet destrution mate

think it might just top corosive acid :)

think it would have been a cool game mecahnic where tek wepions dont work agesnt corupted dinos

[bold dove]

To be able melt human skin in seconds?
Yeah, that shit is even more lethal then Sulfuric acid.

[valid gale]

because the element would be sentient and not wanting to damage its self in a differnt form

would make end game harder but man its extionion

[bold dove]

Not how that works

[valid gale]

this is ture

[valid gale]

though element was a hive mind?

[bold dove]

If I shoot a human with a cannon that has a human in it, it'll still fucking kill them

[rain dock]

Yeah, just read them a story about people 😂😂

[valid gale]

the person beng amo or the target?

[bold dove]

Both

[valid gale]

true both would die

[bold dove]

Shooting a target that's human would kill both the target and ammo.

[valid gale]

but if we assume that elemnt is both senitant which we know to be true

[rain dock]

I thought my joke was funny

[bold dove]

Also, it's only liquid and corruption that's sentient.
Refined shit is in a dormant state.

[valid gale]

and that element can adampt

[bold dove]

What joke?

[rain dock]

Guess not 😭

[valid gale]

Really sorry my mistake i was unawear there was a differnce in sentiance

[rain dock]

This one. Because you said canon, not cannon

[bold dove]

Nah, it's cool. That's my fault for not saying

[valid gale]

so let me see if i have this correct the liquid element

[bold dove]

I will eat you.

[valid gale]

like the suff that flows in aberation

[bold dove]

Hang the fuck on

There, I changed it

[rain dock]

Nooo, it was funny before

Now I just look like a monkey

[bold dove]

To be fair, I get peeved when people use 'cannon' instead of 'canon' and the otherway around.
So I guess this is my Devine punishment.

[bold dove]

You already do, without trying

[serene valley]

Same

[valid gale]

what?

[rain dock]

No comment...

[bold dove]

Nah, I just edited one of my posts

[valid gale]

ah

[bold dove]

Don't lie.
You also feel the same

[valid gale]

but i do think it would be a cool thing to se eyou know

you try and use your big tek gun to kill a corupted alpha

and it jsut refuses to fire makes no lore snse

and lore is more inportant then the rule of cool

but i think its a neet idea

[valid gale]

ok heads up i cant spell to save my life

so sorry in advance

[bold dove]

I've noticed

[bold dove]

Nah, that's not for you

That's just for anyone in general.

[valid gale]

is that generl like "in general wolves like to hunt deer" or general like the chat?

[bold dove]

...what?

[valid gale]

in what sense are you using the word general in that sentense

general like the normal word or general as the name of the chat in this server

[bold dove]

In a normal sense

[valid gale]

ah cool

thanks

man i want to play SE AB or EX but i feel i need to beet the islandfirst

becuase you know doing stuff in order

ah well somthing to look forward too

sadly i dont think there is an easy non cheating way to speed run the island

[bold dove]

Be good

[valid gale]

ha ha four years

i dont thnk im good, A I am consetly conserned for losing my dions so i next to never go in caves and when i do they dont come with me

[quaint marsh]

Well, caving alone is a brave experience

[jolly crescent]

For caving we (my friends and I) usually use direwolves cus they are strong and some for pack bonus then it's not that hard
For underwater some basilos

[lament raft]

i enjoy having a bary for caves

or once val got released, a deinon

[valid gale]

How did Helena kinda get to the colony ship

I know she dident fully but we have us the robot

?

[jolly crescent]

She went like us through arat prime I think

Then she left hln-a there and left

Also HLN-A is just Helena without the e's

[valid gale]

wounder why she hated the e's

[lyric tendon]

HLNA: im not really Helena

[bronze turtle]

Here’s a question, who was the OG boss of aberration before Rockwell?

[bold dove]

We don't know.

If you mean guardian-wise.

[bronze turtle]

Damn

[bronze turtle]

Yeah

[bold dove]

Yeah, we don't know

[bronze turtle]

Darn

[brazen sparrow]

Sadge

[bold dove]

Smadge

[ripe garnet]

It might have been another oversear because diana mentions "it" with sphapeshifting abilities

[valid gale]

i think they might have ment, the absreation euvilent of say the broodmother or dragon

[bold dove]

That's again, an Overseer.
We where talking about guardians.

[lament raft]

would be nice to know

[valid gale]

oh ya defonity

one small outerh thing where are the boss areas canonicly

?

[lament raft]

i imagine they're in smaller sections within the ark itself

either in the chunk of rock the ark is built around, or maybe in the arms that come up from the sides

[lyric tendon]

You can literally see the outside of the ARK

It's just one big rock

[lament raft]

yeah

but there's a lot of space inside the rock

[lyric tendon]

I would assume that each ARK is the same aside from the land mass it carries

You would literally see the arenas in the path that leads to the overseer

[lament raft]

hmm. actually i wonder if the boss arenas are actually localized versions of the genesis simulation

[lyric tendon]

No

Genesis is different

[lament raft]

random thought

but for the arenas, they're not that big compared to the ark itself

so there's plenty of space to hide them away, and we see from the extinction proto-arks that they can make an area look MUCH bigger from the inside looking 'out'

[lyric tendon]

By the looks of how the "hall of history" works

The arenas are very small and you can view them from there

[lament raft]

you can at least see images from them

[valid gale]

who knows maby they usesd tardis magic

:)

[lament raft]

i mean they already did use the Assassin's Creed 'dna memory' thing

[valid gale]

oh ya they did dident they i dident notice that

[lyric tendon]

They are not images, if they did they would've been project like a hologram

I could be wrong... I'll check The Island Tek Cave later

[lament raft]

which i guess is... kinda plausible, given the tech they're working with? theoretically a quantum supercomputer with enough processing power could look back in time and piece together what exactly happened

but that's the point you get into the super high end scifi rigamarol

[lyric tendon]

No, the Overseer is made from people

[lament raft]

the overseer is a homo deus iirc, yeah

[valid gale]

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” - Arthur C. Clarke

[lament raft]

yeah

[valid gale]

rigamarol?

[valid gale]

oh ya thats osmthing that always stumped me what is homo deus?

[lament raft]

misspelled, rigamarole: a long and complicated process that is annoying and seems unnecessary

[valid gale]

ah cool new word thanks

[lament raft]

a homo deus is a human that has evolved into a higher state, a-la the Ancients from stargate or the Q from star trek

[valid gale]

ah ive never seen eather of thoes

how does a humean evolve?

i know helena did

[lament raft]

they're kinda intentionally vague on how it's done

and evolved is a misnomer on my part, more Ascended

[valid gale]

ah just creat

[lament raft]

from what i gather it's a human that has ascended past the need for a physical body, becoming a being of energy with the thinking power of a supercomputer

but ofc i could be wrong

[ripe garnet]

Thats kinda it, also homo deus can operate the arks

[lament raft]

basically the Monitors from Halo

but with more tricks up their nonexistent sleeves

[ripe garnet]

But yeah is still pretty vague, same as alot of other stuff

[lament raft]

it's one of those settings where i wish we had hard numbers and data

i'm the kind of nerd that would want to know exactly how big the Arks are supposed to be

[valid gale]

i supose we could work it out

at least the size of the playible map

[lament raft]

approximately

i think we have the size of the island map

[valid gale]

i wounder if we could work out its diamiter then use pixle mesermwents for the rest using it as a bench mark when we see it form space

[lament raft]

the island is 40 square km

[valid gale]

we coudlent work otu stuff like denisty with out knowing its composistion

[lament raft]

though i don't know if that's landmass or if that's the entire area of the map including the ocean

[valid gale]

but we might be able to get a size working on teh assumeton that is simetrical

[valid gale]

from what i rember is the force feild on the island is the outher side of that not space

[lyric tendon]

Bare in mind that SE is all land, no water

Ok barely water

[lament raft]

do we have the square footage of SE?

i've seen the area numbers for Island Center and Ragnarok

[lyric tendon]

Center and Rag share the same as the Island because these mod maps used The Island as a template like any modded maps

[rain dock]

Se is roughly the sake size as the island

[rain dock]

But rag is bigger than the island

[lyric tendon]

Fair enough

Also there is no mention of barriers in SE notes but instead they use Death Worms like the sharks in GTA if you go beyond the game border

[rain dock]

Canonically yeah, but Bob is such a beast that they had to make barriers

[lyric tendon]

Bob aka us doesn't exist in the time where the notes are made

[rain dock]

True

[lyric tendon]

This makes me think the ARK are way bigger than what is portrayed in the game, given they are equally sized in the Ascension

[rain dock]

Yeah, that seems a reasonable assumption

[valid gale]

what we need is somthing

messerd in real units that can be used as a ruler

[rain dock]

Go to the dev kit

[valid gale]

we have a dev kit?

[rain dock]

For ark1? Yeah....

[valid gale]

well thats amazing

[rain dock]

It's been out like 8 years. That's where all the mods come from

[valid gale]

sorry just had an idea

elemtn came on a metoright correct?

[bold dove]

Yerp

[valid gale]

right so there is or was a planrt from which the element camr

we had a space ship

we shoul dhave found the planet

ok maby not with the same ship but we should have used somthing

[bold dove]

Play Genesis-2

[valid gale]

?

[bold dove]

We see multiple planets that have Element in Gen2

[valid gale]

wow

so this stuff really crops up

[gusty turret]

Yeah something that endlessly replicates itself tends to do that

The thing is it's hard saying how old element actually is

So we don't know where it potentially could have come from

[rain dock]

My bet is that it comes from arat

[gusty turret]

Sadly thats probably gonna be the case

[rain dock]

I mean, it makes sense, because Rockwell is element based and he picked the planet to go to

[gusty turret]

The Aratai or whatever the species there is called probably used to be insanely advanced until some element based catastrophe sent them back to the stone age

Kinda like the orks in Warhammer

I use that reference very lightly because it is quite drastically different than the orks but still, they used the be basically gods because they were intelligent and anything they thought came true then they just became stupid so they can only think of stupid stuff

Like painting cars red makes them go faster

And i think they paint rockets yellow to make them have bigger explosions? Im not sure on that one

Depending on how you look at the genesis 2 notes and how much you trust Gabriel, its entirely possible that element was at least on Earth since Roman times

That probably would be a good thing to ask if they hold another q&a thing- like how long element had actually been on Earth

And if Gabriel was wrong why he misidentified a violet substance which as far as i know element is the only thing close to-

[bold dove]

Actually, I don't think he picked it

The colony-ship was already trying to find a habitable world.
Rockwell was just planning on taking over whatever planet it found.

[gusty turret]

Technically he didn't not pick it either

[bold dove]

Silence

[gusty turret]

He could've easily just made the ship not go there

[bold dove]

He....he literally doesn't have control of the ship?

[gusty turret]

Why will you eat a fucking dear is the real question

[bold dove]

That's our whole point.
Is to make sure he 'doesn't' take control of the ship

[gusty turret]

I dunno about you but my point is now to stop you from eating a deer

[bold dove]

I'll eat an axolotl instead of you do.

[gusty turret]

Go for it

[bold dove]

Go for the deer?
Alright.

[gusty turret]

No the axolotl

[bold dove]

Nah, you already gave permission

[gusty turret]

I gave permission for the axolotl

[bold dove]

Deer?

Hm

[gusty turret]

Nope

If you eat a deer I'll eat your copy of Ark survival evolved

[bold dove]

That sounds like a good time

[gusty turret]

It's over Anakin i have the high ground

[waxen flame]

this is some weird lore

[gusty turret]

Why is that emoji called deviousg

What does the g stand for

It simply makes no sense

[waxen flame]

g is short for grin probably

[gusty turret]

Then why is this called angryg

[waxen flame]

oh

[gusty turret]

Evil_g

Wth_g

W h y

[rain dock]

The person is obviously names Gertrude

[gusty turret]

You're obviously named Gertrude

[brazen sparrow]

Gladiatrix, the character from the animated series, of whom those are

[gusty turret]

Weird

Lore solved, all plotholes plugged, now time to save the deer

[brazen sparrow]

Screw that deer, he deserved it

For all the wins he gave my enemies in tSotF

[rain dock]

Deer is really good. I actually had some yesterday

[bold dove]

Deer jerky is good

[bold dove]

The deer already is dead

[brazen sparrow]

Never had it tbh

[gusty turret]

For now

[bold dove]

Weird to describe.

[bold dove]

H-h.....how can something be dead 'for now'

It's fucking dead?!?!

[rain dock]

It's going to be cloned like survivors in ark.

Maybe deer are actually what saved the arks

[gusty turret]

You don't wanna know

A little bit of magic

Maybe a monkeys paw

[bold dove]

That monkey paw will also be eaten by me

[gusty turret]

Sounds crunchy

[valid gale]

oh so its like a graby alien?

[valid gale]

where ever it comes from would likly be effeected very little by it

if we assume its natural

then it will have evolved amount outer life forms that would have had to compet with it

[rain dock]

That's my take on it

[valid gale]

meaning they would have ither gone extion

or grow ways of dealing with it

meaning the best way to find the element homeworld may be to find the planet with the lesat element effected life

but that should also be nestesd inside lots of element hevey worlds

at leasst thats what makes sense to me

[gusty turret]

I don't see why we'd wanna find the home world i think it just needs to be avoided at all vosts

[valid gale]

to bomb it out of creation obccorse

pluss if element is a hive mind it stands to resson there is a heart somwhere

[bold dove]

That's not how a fucking hivemind works........

[rain dock]

That's like the opposite of it lol

[arctic bison]

wth kind of wrong conspiracy theories am i even reading here

[bold dove]

Quite literally, the opposite.

There can be a supporting pillar for a hivemind, like the gravemind from Halo, or the overseer from Starcraft. (or the King-Titan in ARK's case)
But they're not 'needed' for their survival.

[gusty turret]

The hivemind also doesn't encase all element and chances are its unique to Earths element-

Or the Earths corruption rather

[bold dove]

Which is very valid.
Hiveminds can have different branches/factions.

[gusty turret]

But theres also just no examples we've been given of element existing in a hivemind, as far as we know Earth is the exception not the standard

[valid gale]

Yes I know it might be the case

[gusty turret]

Nothing that has grown with element is a hive mind that we've been shown, gasbags, velos, manas, gachas, all exist normally with extremely high element corruption levels

[bold dove]

Helena confirms it 'is' a hivemind

[gusty turret]

Is she referring to what we got on Earth or the thing as a whole?

[bold dove]

Well, obviously what we have on Earth, since that's the only samples of Element we know that existed pre-Gen2.

We don't know if the Gen2 Element is a hivemind, cause they're in a dormant crystal-like state.

And for all we know, the Gen2 Element could be either connected to Earth's hivemind, or its own hivemind.

(which I personally like the idea of having multiple hivemind factions.)

[gusty turret]

It could, but from what we observed with the creatures on extinction growing with element, they display no hivemind properties

Nothing with the blue corruption acts in a hivemind fashion

[valid gale]

so why did the kng titan exist

[bold dove]

Which is why to me, Corruption and Element are separate.
Corruption is either the next-step for Elements evolution, or was 'corrupted' by unknown means during the tek-war.

[valid gale]

did it have a goal or what?

[bold dove]

Same reason why the Titans exist.
To protect Corruption, and to destroy anything that means it harm.

[gusty turret]

Element seems to exist in a spectrum, blue being the calmer and safer version and purple/violet being the volatile and corrupting version

Like element is always referred to as violet but why is what we get always blue?

Do we just have a safer version or something?

Element ore is purple but the element we refine from it is blue

[bold dove]

The blue version is the dormant/raw form of Element. Basically, the closest to the original shit that came from the meteor. (as seen in Gen2)

[gusty turret]

But could the gems actually serve to be some form of containment for the volatility?

[bold dove]

Corruption came at the end of the Tek-War by unknown means.
Corruption is formed after the raw Element is used, and it pollinates the soil.

[bold dove]

Not a bad theory.
But then that wouldn't explain how the Extinction-creatures aren't part of the hivemind if the gems are to keep it contained from being volatile.

[gusty turret]

I dunno that's a question for Marc not me

The gems surely have some significance though

Blue gems being used in hazmat suits that can protect against the volatility especially

[valid gale]

so crouption recognised humanity as a threat and made the titans to stop them from detroing it?

[bold dove]

Well, that wouldn't be for Marc, that'd be for Peter Fries.

[bold dove]

More or less, yeah.

[gusty turret]

True

[valid gale]

ok so let me see if i have this right

metorite crashs on earth at an unkown date

at some point in time we disvoverd it

and started using the element - (stable in blue form)

[gusty turret]

The original "titans" weren't near as big and were really just soldiers for the corruption, Mei did most of those in though, then Mei and Diana wiped out most of the rest together leaving the king's main "lieutenants," the biggest ones, and the king himself

[valid gale]

wow so they did al the bulk work and made our job doable

[gusty turret]

Pretty much

Mei and Diana handed that shit show to us on a silver platter

[bold dove]

Meteor crashed around in the 23rd century if I recall

Kind of like a Attack-on-Titan situation where there 'where' a lot of different size titans.
King-Titan obviously being the largest, with his 3 lieutenants being right behind him.

[gusty turret]

Thats if Gabriel was wrong which we can't be sure about

Or there could've still been a meteor but it was just there beforehand anyways

[bold dove]

It's the closest we got to a confirmed date, so I'll take it

[bold dove]

Nah, we would've known.
The amount of energy Element admits would make all of our current Geiger-Mueller's go fucking crazy.

[gusty turret]

But we don't know that

It wouldn't make sense if we didn't know it but that's exactly why it's very possible

We should just get Matpat to figure it out hes the smart one

[bold dove]

We kind of do though.
Element has been shown multiple times to admit heavy amounts of energy by itself.
Hell, Aberration's radiation is most likely due to molten Element.
Also, we've studied all of (surface) based meteor sites that're from out past.

[bold dove]

Oh hell no.
I don't want a fucking......I forgor which game it was, but he made a halfass theory video of a video-game that was shit cause he didn't research it.

[gusty turret]

Hed probably do a better job than half the people here

Mainly because isn't how he responds to criticism

[bold dove]

I don't know man.
I'd rather be or be the one reacting with veggies, then have the man that tries to have a theory about why the consumers in the Lorax are the bad-guys, and not the very corporations that caused the world to go into a apocalyptic state.

Like, if he does very heavy research, then I'd be fine with it.
But don't fucking just make a quick video out of it with little to no research.

[brazen sparrow]

Dare I say... different hives

[brazen sparrow]

Maybe because the blue corruption isn't taking over the host, but rather living in symbiosis with it in those cases?

[bold dove]

I think that's what Marc confirmed.
Unless you where remarking, then yeah.

[brazen sparrow]

I still don't understand your obsession with that, it was a DREAM of a past life of one of his two segmented selves, that was influenced (albeit ever so slightly) by Rockwell's meddling with his engram, you are looking somewhere that there's nothing to be found. Element didn't exist on past Earth that we know of (or have any reasonable suspicion to believe), period. It would be very useless and kind of moot to mention anything of the sort, especially in a DLC where the whole point is that you're leaving Earth

[lyric tendon]

"Sans is Ness"

[bold dove]

O h y e a h
That was a fucking theory

[lyric tendon]

But I do like he allows people to counter theory his theories tho (like he stated in a Film Theory episode about public domain)

But there is a reason why he didn't do ARK theories before and after the game is finished

It's either not in his radar or in his interested genre of game

[bold dove]

Oh defiantly.
I'm not saying he's a bad youtuber, or person. I love the man.
But he has some of the most fucking absurd theories sometimes.

[brazen sparrow]

I'm glad he never touched the game, tbh

Not really something I see him doing, at least not well, with how much fragmented and spread tf out lore this game has externally

[bold dove]

Imagine how swarmed this channel would be full if idiots if he made an inaccurate theory video on ARK, and everyone that doesn't know ARK assumes this is correct.

[lyric tendon]

Umm

[brazen sparrow]

I shudder at the thought

[lyric tendon]

No need to imagine when that someone exists lol

[bold dove]

To be fair, he's been doing the FNAF theories for years, and those have been pretty solid, for a game that also has fragmented lore

[bold dove]

'Someone'
Not 'everyone'

That, is a fear I don't wanna see.
20+ people in this channel going "So the King-Titan is actually the good guy, and Corruption should've had our planet"

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, but for the most part, the lore is in the games or an ARG or posted directly to the creator's page and such

[lyric tendon]

The good ol "the bad guy is not wrong" theories

Tbh I wonna see his takes of "Rockwell is not insane"

[bold dove]

Element as a whole, I do wanna see have a morally-grey spot.
But Corruption should just flatout be bad, like comically evil like it is.

[bold dove]

Isn't like 80% of ARK's lore within the games also, with the notes and such?
With a few things being soft-confirmed from external sources like Marc.

[lyric tendon]

The closest we get to a big "beyond the niche" YouTuber that tackled ARK is Goji Center (basically Death Battle but with Kaijus and Dinosaurs)

[bold dove]

Holy shit, I didn't even know that

"What if ARK's Giga entered Jurassic World"
Everything would fucking die. 🗿

[lyric tendon]

ARK players: as expected

[bold dove]

"ark giga vs deviljho" okay, that's a fucking battle I'd pay to watch

Honestly, even though the ARK giga is a bit larger then the deviljho, I'd say the Deviljho would win.

[lyric tendon]

He is using wild one as a reference, I expected the epic bleed tho

[brazen sparrow]

There's a lot of big important lore that is not found in-game, important from my perspective at the very least, and I'd probably count it closer to 75% of it being found in-game

[bold dove]

Interesting.
What'd you consider important that's from external sources?

[lyric tendon]

Mat Pat is into external lore clues

So ARK is something that isn't his radar anyways

[brazen sparrow]

Lots of things, like the idea that the Moon being blown up is just for cool points or that the ruins on The Island and subsequent maps have been there for at least a few hundreds, if not thousands, of years. I can't really remember the bigger ones rn, tbh 😅

[bold dove]

Ahhh, yeah.

I always fucking hated that moon shit.
"Yeah, we have it blown up cause we thought it was cool"

Like 'BRUH'
If you're going to make such a fucking impact to a universe like blowing up the goddamn moon cause it's "cool" at least add a half-ass lore explanation to it.

[brazen sparrow]

I always thought that it was because there were people living on the Moon by the time the game happened 🤷‍♂️

Sounds like a pretty reasonable conclusion to come upon to me

[lyric tendon]

I dunno I like the environmental story telling more

Sure the whole "moon broke coz rule of cool" thing but at least we figured out in theory on why Ext is endlessly hot and sunny

[bold dove]

It's reasonable, but not confirmed.
Which is my main issue.
There's no hint that people lived on the moon, so there's nothing to bring that theory into light if we're sticking with official canon.
Which is what peeves me.
I also like the idea of either the URE or Feds being on the moon, and the opposing side decided to nuke it.

[brazen sparrow]

Yeaaaah, that's more or less what I was getting at 😅

We already see how much the URE like to nuke things via Aberration, like actually see it with our own eyes, so not a terribly far-out conclusion to jump to

[lyric tendon]

We know the Feds exists and thriving but never a word from the URE aside from their clone versions

[bold dove]

Doesn't the Terran Federation also canonically fucking air-strike New-Zealand off of the map?
Think that was said in Gen2

Shit, I forgot.
Was it ever confirmed who won the war?

[lyric tendon]

More of a tie tbh

The biggest question to me is that who survived the first wave of corruption aside from the feds in the Gen Ship

[brazen sparrow]

Uhhh, neither? Lol

[lyric tendon]

And the ARKs are self-sustained with just clones and homo deus

[bold dove]

Oh right, the war stopped 'due' to the Corruption levels rising

[brazen sparrow]

What remains of the URE is (or was) on the Arks and in the ship, like the Federation. Kind of the point of the post-war truce, to preserve life on both sides 😅

[lyric tendon]

I mean after that said truce

We don't have anything that is from the URE that isn't cloned like Diana

[bold dove]

I'd assume they probably put their differences aside and either made a alliance, or flat out merged their nations to become one.

[lyric tendon]

Possibly

The merger I mean

Man I really really want that RTS TEK War spin off tbh

[brazen sparrow]

They did fall in under the same banner, iirc

That's why only the Federation of Earth is mentioned, not the United Republics of Earth

[bold dove]

Honestly, I'd love to see the political fallout of that.
The idea of the leaders of either side (or one side) might've been too stubborn to let go of the petty war, and so had to be usurped by more competent people sounds interesting.

[lyric tendon]

Would make a new replacement for Rockwell tbh

Low-key make Uma as an antagonist

[bold dove]

Ex-Terran/URE leader that got usurped is now trying to pull shit on Arat. 🗿

[lyric tendon]

What if that said person is the "dark forces" that cause the divide between humanity and the orks

Just like how the Spaniards betrayed my people

[bold dove]

Welp, I was going to make a joke about some current figure head. But apparently his name is banned.

[brazen sparrow]

Would be in-line with my current idea of what the big bad of Ark 2 is, which is an enemy tribe of humans messing with tek yet again

[valid gale]

What?

[bold dove]

What?

[valid gale]

The moon thing

What did they do to the moon?

[bold dove]

Read

[valid gale]

So let me get this right

We blew up the moon for shits and giggles?

[valid gale]

If that’s what we get after Rockwell and the element then it would be kinda a let down

I’m not sure how they can tip that

Then again if you asked me to predic Rockwell and extion back when it was just the island and se

I wouldent be able in a million years

[bold dove]

No, the dev's did

What I was saying, is that they just added a blown up moon in the Overseer arena "cause it looked cool"

[thorn sierra]

Hey y'all so I asked ai to tell all of arks lore and this is what I got😂😭

The Ark lore refers to the story and background of the video game "ARK: Survival Evolved" and its related media. The game is set in a science-fiction world where players must survive on an island filled with prehistoric creatures and advanced technology. Here's a brief rundown of the Ark lore:

In the distant future, Earth is facing an impending disaster that threatens the survival of all life. To prevent this, a group of advanced scientists known as the "Obelisks" create an artificial intelligence known as "Helena" to help them find a solution. Helena devises a plan to send a group of people back in time to an island called "The Ark" where they can study the prehistoric creatures and obtain genetic samples that could help save the future.

Players take on the role of one of these time-travelers who are implanted with a device called an "Implant" which allows them to access advanced technology and communicate with Helena. However, they soon discover that they are not alone on the island and must fight to survive against dangerous creatures and other human survivors.

As players progress through the game, they uncover more of the Ark's history and secrets, including the fact that the island is actually a massive spaceship created by an ancient alien race known as the "Creators." The Creators designed the Ark to preserve life from all over the galaxy and protect it from a great cosmic disaster known as the "Great Collapse." However, the Ark's mission was disrupted when a group of rogue aliens known as the "Corrupted" infiltrated the Ark and caused chaos.

Players must eventually confront the Corrupted and uncover their plans, which involve using the Ark's technology to create an army of genetically-engineered creatures and take over the galaxy. Along the way, players also encounter various factions and tribes of human survivors who have their own agendas and conflicts.

As players progress through the game's various maps and expansions, they uncover more of the

, they uncover more of the Ark's history and secrets, including the true nature of Helena, the origin of the Ark's prehistoric creatures, and the fate of the Creators.

[bold dove]

ChatGPT?

[thorn sierra]

Yuh

[jolly crescent]

Not "entirely true" but chat gpt told me that to defeat the dinopithecus king I would need just good armor and a high quality gun
And some players "decide to take tamed into the arena"

[gusty turret]

I mean it's not wrong

It was just talking about before they patched how you could get above the arena

When i did that it just told me Ark was a campaign based game with quests you completed to uncover lore

[bold dove]

Honestly, this sounds interesting as it's own plot.

[gusty turret]

I don't enjoy the time traveling part

Time traveling is as bad of a plot net as respawning

[bold dove]

Nah, I much more prefer time traveling then respawning, if done right.

[valid gale]

this is why chat gpt cant be trusted because it takes names and similer data and weves into convincing rubbish i mean if we showed this to someone whod never heard of ark they buy it

and thats the problrm

[rain dock]

I mean, it's a language algorithm, what did you expect 😂

[gusty turret]

Chatgpt and other ai algorithms are wonderful resources as long as it's something that's more broadly published and researchable, ive got an ai similar to chat gpt to give me a wonderful explanation of quantum physics but it definitely shouldn't be relied upon especially for more obscure questions

[bold dove]

Skill issue on not doing proper research

[rain dock]

They are excellent and elaborating and enhancing the words used to describe things, but they are absolutely trash at actually giving relevant info. At least as of yet

[quaint marsh]

Why does this sound cool

Of course it's super wrong, and I dearly love the lore that we have today, but I could see this being the actual story if things had been handled by a different writer.

[lyric tendon]

i love the grim darkness of the first 4, genesis is meh

[gusty turret]

Genesis 2 would've been awesome if the story was different and there was actually a sense of impending doom

[agile glade]

I thought I would have been cooler if Rockwell managed to get to Arat Prime and he would become the boss over on ARK II

But this time, no Tek and he’s not able to do anything cause the ships broken

[gusty turret]

N o

Any situation where Rockwell manages to get to Arat prime is a total loss scenario for the survivor

Which actually I wouldn't mind tbh

When Warframe released the new war, one of the best parts of that quest was just being helpless and being faced with the impact of your complete failure in resisting Ballas

Games don't do that very often, they never take your failure and drag your face through it

Its always "oh im the protagonist i always win"

Or it's like Halo where you get to go out fighting so its at least badass

Very very rarely is "you fucked up, watch the consequences"

Even in Mass Effect with the decisions, nothing really makes you feel like crap theres always a silver lining

[brazen sparrow]

Chat GPT? Nah fam, you were using Chad GPT

[brazen sparrow]

Except the big choice in 1, and the ending of 3 which almost everyone hated because it was exactly what you described lol

[gusty turret]

Which ending of 3 there were like 10😭

The big choice in 1 i can see, that wasn't that hard for me to decide though

[gusty turret]

I assume you mean the one that's like common sense

[valid gale]

I think the best thing there would to do what they refused to fo on earth and just scorched earth policy

Pull a ship master and glass the planet

[brazen sparrow]

Well, yeah lol

[bold dove]

Agreed.
This is why I didn't like their 'story missions' in Gen2

They felt more comedic then serious.
Like they should've been in Gen1

[brazen sparrow]

I mean, the fact there's no immediate like hard timer or something until the ship blows up or some shit is purely because of the fact that it would imply a defined end to the map (which is impossible to do with a sandbox game), so that's a little jank I will admit, but if you play through them and beat the map in a timely manner it makes sense thematically

[lyric tendon]

i was at first thought the Gen Sim is the origin of the ARKs because of the tidbits

[bold dove]

You....don't need a timer to make a impending danger in a story feel....dangerous?

[brazen sparrow]

No shit, Sherlock. But you get goddamn the point 🙄

[lyric tendon]

bruv, you dont even need time importance, look at the first 4

earth is already trashed

[bold dove]

Clearly, I didn't

[valid gale]

Was it Zelda that had the moon?

[brazen sparrow]

Skill issue

[valid gale]

Where you were on a time limit?

[bold dove]

Yep, but timers are fine in single-player games

Not so much in a MMO-like game

[valid gale]

Much harder in multi

Could you imagen a pvp gen 2 server with that kind of timer

[brazen sparrow]

Ah, my point, you lying sack of shit

You literally just explained it

[bold dove]

I love manipulation

[lyric tendon]

Gen 2's "story" is within a narrative timer... never implemented a game one like Zelda because PVP and other online shenanigans

[brazen sparrow]

because sandbox MMO*

PvP has nothing to do with the lack of seriousness to the situation

[lyric tendon]

laymans dont know that

[brazen sparrow]

Whe

[arctic bison]

Wheao

[lyric tendon]

Wheaon

[brazen sparrow]

Wheat

[quaint marsh]

Imagine if Gen2 maps were temporary though...

Then they wipe and you get to go again

Server settings could disable that of course

[lyric tendon]

kinda defeats the purpose

[brazen sparrow]

That would certainly bring a sense of impending doom, to be sure 😅

[lyric tendon]

also non-ArkPoc/alpha tribes be raged

[quaint marsh]

What purpose? To be fun?

[bold dove]

You can make the tensions within the story high, and try to invest the player in a story they care for.
Try to appease to the selfishness of most players, and instead of emphasizing of the ship being destroyed, they might've gotten away if they focused more on the 'player' themselves dying, or their bases/tames.
And instead of showing the tension via goofy mini-games, they might've been able to get away with showing the tension via Rockwell himself.
Either by allowing a 20+ tame limit in a specific mission that shows Rockwell's horde-army, or a horde-defense mission where you have to defend one of the gates of Rockwell's-ring so none of his abominations can cross onto the Eden-ring.
Feel like there are better ways to show tension, even in a MMO like ARK then what they did.

[lyric tendon]

gameplay < story is not what official players want

[brazen sparrow]

That's literally what we're getting at here, adding a sense of doom to the map to improve the feel, whe

[lyric tendon]

it's basically just mini-ARKPoc

[quaint marsh]

I know. Of course they don't, but what if that was how it had come out? Would they have complained? Yes. Is that new? No

[lyric tendon]

plus there is already tension in game with all the tribal drama and that

[brazen sparrow]

Apparently not, that's why this was brought up in the first place???

[lyric tendon]

only us Lore Nerds (and maybe a few PVE players) like that said concept

[brazen sparrow]

You aren't viewing this from the right perspective

[bold dove]

That's tension via PvP, not the story. (which is what at least I was talking about)

[lyric tendon]

we are talking about having Gen 2 being Just ARKPoc DLC because story

[bold dove]

That's....not at all what Bruise was trying to say

[bold dove]

It's a wall-text, but I think this paints a better picture

[lyric tendon]

talking about this

[quaint marsh]

So embrace the conversation and speculate if you like the idea. Of course it isn't what most people would have wanted, but we are discussing ways to make the story feel better on Gen 2. In #lore-nerdz. Let us speculate lol

[lyric tendon]

putting a wrench on a "tried and tested" gameplay because trying to make the story "more important" on a sandbox multiplayer game is what i am pointing out here

why do you think people hated the so called "missions" and its requirement to access the boss the missions would have story missions as they promised

[bold dove]

I'd hate if Gen2 was timed.
But what they could've also done, is gave the timers in the missions more tension, and worry.
Instead of kicking you out of the simulation, Rockwell finds you within his domain, and slaughters you. Screen goes black, and all you can hear is either a male or female blood curdling scream, while the respawn scream phases in.

[brazen sparrow]

I'm just gonna drop it, dead topic has died

[lyric tendon]

i prefer this tbh since missions are self contained anyways

[bold dove]

Damn, would've liked to know your thoughts.

[brazen sparrow]

That's about all I got for ya @bold dove

[quaint marsh]

That would be cool. And perhaps even, seeing Rockwell react to your victory if you pass it. Currently it doesn't feel like beating a mission has any impact on him. Maybe a cutscene, or a visual change that is temporary

[lyric tendon]

mmm more GBs per DLC

[bold dove]

Would be cool to see Rockwell's Garden become more fleshy, with his flesh biome spread to the outside via the missions.

[bold dove]

Fuck it.
If it means actually having cool details.

[lyric tendon]

saids the guy who use INI just to make the Terminus mission playable

[bold dove]

And?

[quaint marsh]

C'mon, a cutscene or two lol. The GB is from the map size

[bold dove]

You like to bring up irrelevant shit, Mazzy.
How the fuck does Gigabyte size have anything to do with performance?

[quaint marsh]

Yeah, as he slowly corrupts it more and more

[carmine cedar]

Then explain why CI is so big, it has nothing

[lyric tendon]

more things to load in even in low render, more bits to download on a throttled net thus long long time

a sole reason why i play on low

personal issue yes but i am not the only one who has that exclusively

[bold dove]

That's not much of a performance drop though, if they're smart and butcher the geometry of landscapes we'll never physically go to in missions.

And yeah, that's a personal issue.
Don't need have INI settings now.

[lyric tendon]

fingers crossed on that UE5 thing people hyped about

also yes i "like spewing irrelevant shit" because 3 am end-of-month sicko mode

[bold dove]

Okay, fair.

[lyric tendon]

its that good ol natural monthly mood swings again

[brazen sparrow]

Ah, explains a lot 😅

[bronze turtle]

How do the creatures from the simulation go into the real world without a problem?

[flat charm]

Spacemagic

[brazen sparrow]

24th century science allowing for complete physical and genetic reconstruction of digitally constructed life, using programmable biomatter

I apologize if that's hard to read, lmao

[valid gale]

Game feture explained with the old any suficently advanced tech is indistjngwishable from magic

Basically what they said In terms of space magic

[valid gale]

That canon or head cannon to fill a plot hole?

[brazen sparrow]

It's canon

Or something similar enough is, at least

[valid gale]

Ah cool

[bronze turtle]

Hmmmm…

[valid gale]

Ignore this

[valid gale]

This is more correct

[bronze turtle]

I love arks reasoning

Just “space magic”

[valid gale]

Who dosent

Some of its solid writing but some is also dam there is a plot quickly make some shit up to fill it

[bronze turtle]

Yeah

[valid gale]

But I’d rather have space metic

Magic then have them ignore it

[ornate hull]

Helena would be screwd in her visions if the king titan knew how to climb a ladder

[lament raft]

'any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic'

space magic is just high concept scifi stuff that's too complex to fully explain

[valid gale]

Yep

[valid gale]

I agree

[hollow anvil]

Hey y'all I'm using Chat BOT AI and prompt engineering to create the main plot beats for an Isekai anime set in the world of Ark survival evolved tell me what you think of it thus far, I think it turned out much better than expected.

Hiro Nakamura found himself lying on the shore of an unfamiliar land, his body aching and head throbbing. As he slowly sat up and looked around, he noticed the strange, futuristic implant embedded in his arm. Confused and disoriented, Hiro couldn't help but feel a deep sense of dread as he surveyed the world around him. It wasn't long before he stumbled upon a gruesome scene - a survivor who had just been transported to this world being torn apart by a pack of vicious raptors. Hiro's heart raced as he hid behind a rock, watching the bloodthirsty creatures feast on their prey. The brutality of this world was apparent, and Hiro knew he needed to find allies if he had any hope of survival.

Kiyoko Fujita found herself in a dense forest, filled with unfamiliar plants and the sounds of creatures she couldn't identify. She shivered, feeling a deep sense of loneliness and vulnerability. As she cautiously ventured deeper into the forest, she came across a Spinosaurus locked in a vicious battle with a Pteranodon. The Spinosaurus impaled the Pteranodon with its sharp claws, brutally ending the creature's life. Witnessing this display of raw, untamed power left Kiyoko feeling even more lost and frightened than before.

Akira Yamamoto woke up on a hill overlooking a vast plain. In the distance, he could see a group of survivors clad in armor, forcefully recruiting new arrivals to join their ranks. The scene was a stark reminder of the cold, militaristic nature of this new world. Akira felt anger bubble up within him, fueling his determination to protect himself and others from the cruelty that seemed to be lurking around every corner.

As Kiyoko continued to navigate the forest, she stumbled upon Hiro, who was cautiously making his way through the underbrush. Their eyes met, and the relief in finding another human being was palpable. They exchanged words, sharing their experiences and fears about this brutal new world.

"I saw a man being torn apart by raptors," Hiro recounted, his voice shaking.

Kiyoko shuddered. "I saw a Spinosaurus killing a Pteranodon. It was horrifying."

Just as the duo began to discuss their plans for survival, they heard the sound of battle nearby. Rushing to the scene, they found Akira cornered by a pack of Troodons, his arrows running low. Without hesitation, Hiro and Kiyoko lured the Troodons away, giving Akira the chance to escape.

Akira, stubborn and prideful, did not immediately acknowledge their help. However, as they continued to navigate the Ark together, they found themselves facing a group of maniacal survivors riding raptors, intent on hunting the trio down. The three companions, through quick thinking and teamwork, managed to outsmart the crazed survivors, capturing and tying them up for questioning.

Under the ethereal glow of the moon, the trio finally found a moment of respite, sitting together on a beach. They made a solemn vow to one another.

"We will find a way to defeat the Overseer and return home," Hiro declared, his determination unwavering.

Akira, his pride tempered by gratitude, added, "Together, we'll protect each other and survive this nightmare."

Kiyoko, ever the compassionate nurturer, chimed in softly, "We'll be there for one another, no matter what challenges we face."

United by their shared experiences and resolve, the trio began their journey to conquer the brutal world of Ark: Survival Evolved.

[lyric tendon]

i mean ARK IS an isekai in a way

both in the notes and (soon) in the #ark-animated-series

[hollow anvil]

I know I’m just rewriting it to be more like an isekai

[lyric tendon]

WDM "more"? when it is already by definition, an Isekai

[low briar]

Addition of weeb names 😂

[quaint marsh]

You're using AI to write your story?

emphasis on your

[hollow anvil]

Well more like AI wrote the story

@quaint marsh

[valid gale]

Sorry what’s an isekai

?

[hollow anvil]

When characters from the real world get transported to a fictional one

[valid gale]

Ah thanks

So like Stan Le in most marvel films?

[valid gale]

Don’t think computer programs can clame ownership fo a book

[lyric tendon]

but the source to used to trained with is

[lyric tendon]

or a different world

[hollow anvil]

Do you think I could turn this into a comic book and than sell it online

[brazen sparrow]

No, since it uses intellectual property that you don't own, lol

[bold dove]

Fuck no.

It isn't your property.
You'd have a lawsuit on your hand

[lyric tendon]

someone already tried it... denied copyright previlages

[valid gale]

Unless you got super lucky and ark is under a Creative Commons licence

Or you live in Russia I doite it

[hollow anvil]

Ill just change the name from Ark to something else and slightly change the story

[valid gale]

Wild card will have that locked down

[valid gale]

Maby

Maby it works maby they hit you with copy write and take you to the cleaners

[bold dove]

If it's close enough to the story, it'd still be enough to get you into a lawsuit

You'd need to completely revamp it to make it legally different

[hollow anvil]

Its not close to the story of Helena, its just set in the same world, if I call the world something different I doubt there would be aby lawsuits

Ill ask the AI how I can avoid lawsuits problem solved

the AI can self edit its content too

[valid gale]

Do you not see the problem with that?

[hollow anvil]

What problem?

[bold dove]

The problem you're asking a still work-in-progress AI about fucking legal issues

[hollow anvil]

Well all things aside the story this AI made is going to be way better than the actual ark animated series

I suppose Ill just shelve it

[quaint marsh]

If they can, something is wrong.

[gusty turret]

You cannot claim anything done by an ai as intellectual property at least in the US

[lyric tendon]

they cant because the copyright laws stated that "the final product has to me made/written by a human"

[gusty turret]

It is free for anyone to steal whenever they see fit

[lyric tendon]

more like trash it because there is no way that will ever be accepted as "copyrightable" anyways

[quaint marsh]

Don't shelve it, write your OWN story. AI work can be used for inspiration, but reading actual litterature is probably better. If you have a good idea, you should work on it, write it, create it yourself. Then you may be able to publish it, unless of course this story is set in the Ark universe. You would need permission from Wildcard themselves, then

[lyric tendon]

i mean we already have ARK fan fics exists

[quaint marsh]

But can people earn money off of them?

[lyric tendon]

if WC or god forbid Snail tries to take down fan made content then it's another rep blow against the fans

[gusty turret]

You will find it much easier to write your own universe than to work within the constraints of an existing one

[lyric tendon]

yes in a sense through YouTube for visual fan stories or sites like Wattpad or Web Toon for Written/Drawn media

as long as it's not a video game like ARK

take Pokemon for example

you can make fan stories and fan fiction but never a fan game

[quaint marsh]

This is true. Working in an existing universe requires extensive knowledge of said universe if you wish to please the fans. Creating your own world allows for soft world building, you can make everything up yourself. If you struggle with the creativity of making your own universe, you are most likely thinking too hard, since you only need to know about places or happenings that take place in your story. Most worlds are built as the story progresses @hollow anvil .

As someone attempting to write a story within the Ark universe aswell, I often find myself exploring the explorer notes more than actually writing. If I had made my own world, like I have in other stories, I'd have a whole lot more written

[hollow anvil]

Understood gamers, although the idea of a giant space colony with prehistoric life and fantastical creatures testing survivors is one I want to develop into my own story

so I will retain those elements

[lyric tendon]

you can start with that or just make your own survivor's story based on what you experienced in game

you can make a fan fiction but never a fan game

[gusty turret]

Matt Mercer has some wonderful advice for world building if you can find it

[gusty turret]

What we just observed is the newly risen issue of putting too much faith in AI

[lyric tendon]

basically

[rain dock]

I mean, ai is great, but it can't write decent stories yet

[gusty turret]

Especially using anime characters

How do you infringe upon two intellectual properties simultaneously and not realize it

[rain dock]

As long as you don't publish it it's fine usually

[bronze turtle]

Why is it when you completed extinction but go back to the island your island isn’t anywhere close to extinction?

[carmine cedar]

???

Don't do drugs, eat home cooked food

[bold dove]

Cause there's a thing called 'playing the maps in order'

[bronze turtle]

Cring

[brazen sparrow]

Always thought that it would be cool if someone merged the maps and made a post-end of game Extinction

[lament raft]

i was hoping gen was going to take advantage of the proto arks from extinction. have a central 'hub' zone with several proto ark like things around it for the different biomes

would have been a nice callback to extinction too

[brazen sparrow]

I honestly thought that we were getting mini-maps that were treated as whole maps for Gen 1, lol

But yeah, the proto-Ark approach was very cool and is something I would have loved to see a map be comprised of, but in the simulation, so you could walk between them and there'd be like this cool wireframe land in between them like the Matrix or something 😂

[lyric tendon]

Back then I thought Genesis is supposed to be the ARK origin because of the tidbits until CMC is revealed to be Rockwell

[lyric tendon]

Basically like Fjördur but in reverse

[sick canyon]

I literally had this same idea the other day lol

[bronze turtle]

YO BOB

Plus you’d get new creatures called after corrupted’s that would attack only when provoked

[gusty turret]

🤨

[lyric tendon]

A what

[carmine cedar]

Optimisation be like:

[lyric tendon]

Mmmm the ultimate spaghetti that can destroy even the best of PCs

As much as I agree for lore sake but I prefer ARK 1 ended in Ext with Gen being a side post story as a prologue for ARK 2

[carmine cedar]

Genesis is like the prologue for ARK II

[lyric tendon]

I was gonna say

[brazen sparrow]

I didn't say it had to be a developer made merged map, did I???

[bold dove]

"The base game will include The Island, SOTF, and all the “Non-Canon” DLC maps (which will be added to ASA over time)." it's confirmed bois!
Custom-Maps aren't canon!

[fallow sapphire]

this needs to get pinned

[lyric tendon]

Val is not Aberration! fuckkkkingg yeaaaaaah!!!

you cannot deny that fact anymore, it's officially said that the free DLC maps is no longer canon!

[waxen flame]

xd

[thorn sierra]

So they're making a new canonical map?

[brazen sparrow]

No, it's an april fools joke

[bold dove]

From the wording of it, yes

[mental basin]

Arat Prime DLC

[bold dove]

Thing is, it could be at any time.

[mental basin]

It's fucking happening and I'm all for it.

Finally. The DLC I've wanted ever since I knew the game had lore.

[brazen sparrow]

Dude, omfg, how is it not clicking in people's brains yet

[bold dove]

'IF' the release-date means anything, that means it'll be either between Scorched-Aberration, or Aberration-Extinction.
'Buuut' if release order doesn't matter to them, this can be set at any time.

[bold dove]

With what?

[mental basin]

A fallacy tantalized by Anthomnia, inaccurate as his lore videos may have been.

[brazen sparrow]

Look at the damn animated series pic they shared, tell me what you numbskulls see

[mental basin]

The Overseer Arena.

[bold dove]

I see the Overseer arena

[mental basin]

[brazen sparrow]

If that isn't proof enough, idk what else to tell you

[bold dove]

Proof of what?

[mental basin]

He thinks we're going to the moon.

[brazen sparrow]

Y'all are joking right

[bold dove]

Just tell us, instead of being an ass.

[brazen sparrow]

It's an april fools joke, jfc

[bold dove]

It's the 31st though

[brazen sparrow]

Do I need to spell it out for you?

[mental basin]

💀💀💀

[brazen sparrow]

Sure, in some parts of the world

[bold dove]

The parts where Wildcard is

[brazen sparrow]

They're in the lunar biome, wearing cloth armor, with a tek bow

Are you fucking serious please say sike

[bold dove]

That looks like the Overseer arena, with the moon destroyed

[brazen sparrow]

I don't want to believe this is the real Bootleg chatting

Please say sike

"Feature Sunset: With the launch of ASA, we will be ending official support for Primitive+, Split Screen, and Procedurally Generated Maps. These aspects of the game will not be ported to the new Unreal Engine 5 version."

[bold dove]

Yerp

[brazen sparrow]

Another prime example of it right there

Need I get more?

[bold dove]

They're not going to port features no one uses.
What's the issue?

[brazen sparrow]

🤦‍♂️

You're trolling me

[bold dove]

" We plan to release a new canonical-story expansion pack for ARK: Survival Ascended that will be available in Q4 2023. This DLC will feature four new creatures, which we’ll share more details about later this year!"
Guess we'll see if they do continue talking about it past April-1st

[brazen sparrow]

I can't today, this is something else, WC did it and I'm so proud of them

[bold dove]

That, or you're looking too far into it.

[thorn sierra]

So theyre j gonna add another canonical map?

[lyric tendon]

yes but in which time line, we never know

[gusty turret]

I don't see why they'd release an official roadmap as an april fools joke when it's not even the first yet

I don't necessarily believe there would be a new map but theres definitely a lot of other information in there that seems legit

It also seems stupid that theyd release a pack of ark two and ark on ue5 for only like 50 usd-

I get that it's only on Microsoft platforms and Microsoft like owns wildcard or whatever but still that seems off

The animated series art is also really sketch

[lyric tendon]

i mean $50 for 2 complete games (minus the DLC) is a steal tbh

[gusty turret]

Oh absolutely

But Microsoft would also give themselves a steal to pull more people from sony

"We also recognize that ARK 2 has some pretty significant design changes from the original game, which may not make it as appealing to everyone (looking at you, Souls-like combat, primitive-only weaponry, and strict third-person mechanics – and an overall “very serious” tone), which is why we feel it is essential to provide players with a fully next-gen version of the original experience to ensure that fans can continue to enjoy the ARK they know for years to come. "

This is sketch

[lyric tendon]

thats Sony's issue

[gusty turret]

I mean there is also a lady next to Helena holding a tek bow

[lyric tendon]

possibly one of the new OC's

[ornate hull]

I am sobbing right now only a few months tell I can see an unreal 5 shinehorn😭

I can't fucking wait

[gusty turret]

I wanna see Rockwell's tentacle shinehorn

[valid gale]

we get any colol fake lore for april fools?

[vague tiger]

Rockwell is gay

[heady prism]

Hardstuck ps5 so no ark 2 for me 🫠

[lyric tendon]

#BlameSony

[sick canyon]

Forget the unreal engine 5 shinehorn
I wanna see the unreal engine 5 otter

[brazen sparrow]

When they pull the "Let's see Paul Allen's card." in casual conversation

[lyric tendon]

Who

[brazen sparrow]

It's an American Psycho reference

[wet kayak]

I should not be here

I don’t know shit about the lore 💀💀

[valid gale]

ah this is not just a place to speak the lore

but a place to learn fair warning shold you choise to take the path of enlitenment its a lot of infomation bits of which we arnt even sure off rockwells death cought rockwells death but id recon its worth it at least to see if it intrests you in that case just ask for a sonopsis as this chat has some amazing ark historyians in it :)

[valid gale]

thats not a problem

[heady prism]

Lowkey a hope they add trophy’s for the dlc maps like they did with the center in ASA. I’m a trophy hunter and love ark so it would be very fun to do

[lyric tendon]

Wat also, what is that have to do with lore

[quaint marsh]

This makes me worried

[brazen sparrow]

Why can't I emoji react here? Tf?

[lyric tendon]

you have been disarmed

[gusty turret]

Maybe thats the real april fools joke

[rigid grove]

Was a few that ruined it for the many, they're turned off for a little while to make it easier on the mod team. Sorry ❤️

[brazen sparrow]

Dang, makes me wonder what happened lol

[arctic bison]

ark chatter outrage it seems

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, the goofy ones strike and the patient ones are punished for it 🥲

[arctic bison]

all of them are goofy as balls

[brazen sparrow]

Used to it though, with Ark players

[arctic bison]

it's my reliable laughing stock

[rain dock]

Are they off forever? 😭

[rigid grove]

Just for a little while until we feel they can safely be turned back on. I know it's annoying, but please just trust us

[brazen sparrow]

Oh we know, sorry you have to deal with this whole thing, what with all the trolls and such flooding in from the April Fools roadmap and all. Remember to take time out for yourself, I can't even imagine reading half the shit they're probably saying in #general 😖

[valid gale]

ya there is a ressonn ive it muted

trolls are annoying :)

[rain dock]

Oh, I know how it is. No worries. I just miss putting funny reactions everywhere 😂😭

[rigid grove]

Dw we're taking breaks as needed

[valid gale]

good to hear

[brazen sparrow]

What he said ^

[dawn stirrup]

Question: Since Aberration crashes after Extinction, does does this mean all our tames there die? Same for our Extinction tames located at Sanctuary

[brazen sparrow]

Probably

[ornate hull]

Kinda hopeing the new dlc will be in between extention and gen 1 on earth

[valid gale]

probuly

[valid gale]

what new dlc?

[dawn stirrup]

Asa exclusive

[ornate hull]

The one announced on the road map

[dawn stirrup]

NOOOO

[valid gale]

ASA>

[ornate hull]

What

[dawn stirrup]

Whatever

[valid gale]

whats asa?

[ornate hull]

Ark survival ascended

The remake they announced yesterday

[valid gale]

why oh why are we getting a remake

im guessing they are pulling a bethesda and selling it full price as a new stand alone vertion

that everyone who already owns ark will need to buy

and that will make standerd ark obsolet

[trail yew]

Remember this channel is for discussing the lore within ARK.

[mental basin]

Arat... PRIME!

Arat... PRIME!

[sick canyon]

Arat... PRIME!

[mental basin]

Can't wait to see what it looks like.

[gusty turret]

I can't wait for it to be not arat prime related at all

[sick canyon]

What else could they even do for another story dlc?

[mental basin]

💀

[gusty turret]

I can't wait for it to be extinction with grass

[mental basin]

Its literally Arat Prime.

[sick canyon]

Or pre tek nuke aberration

[gusty turret]

That wouldn't make sense storywise

[mental basin]

But this could go SO many ways.
In my ideal scenario, it would be like, a race against the clock.

Like, this is right after the Reseed

And Rockwell is on his way to Arat Prime

So by the end, we fail in attempting to stop him from using the superluminal link to Genesis

We fuck him up, he goes through, and we follow.

[sick canyon]

How do you make that a boss fight?
If you have to fail because of the plot?

[mental basin]

Nono, lemme explain, hear me out

[sick canyon]

Ok

[ornate hull]

Or just stop him from recorrupting earth and in the cutscene have him beam away to gen 1

[mental basin]

He... wasn't gonna Corrupt Earth...

[mental basin]

We fatally wound him, so he runs away like the piece of garbage that he is.

[ornate hull]

Is it actually said anywhere he wasn't or is it left up to interpretation

[mental basin]

It's literally impossible for him to do so.

Not only that, but he doesn't LIKE Corruption.

It's below him.

[ornate hull]

Has he actually said that

[sick canyon]

How would he take over earth anyway with thousands of arks purging all the element?

[ornate hull]

Idk ab makeing the entire thing malfunction when it comes down

Because if it didn't how would of Rockwell got to arat prime before being wiped out by the arks

Being full of element

I do not spell check apreintly

Or am I being an idiot and forgetting something

I am

[sick canyon]

I just realized if the new dlc is arat prime then the teaser at the end of the extinction cut scene will finally make more sense

[gusty turret]

He thinks hes a god he thinks everyone is below him

[mental basin]

No.. no. Yes but no.

Rockwell sees the Corruption as... well, how we see it. Corruption.

It's savage, it feeds off of hatred and anger, it's like a wild beast. Primitive.

Rockwell isn't really a being of Element corruption, he's a being of Element... mutation.

His 'Corruption' rears its ugly head in Genesis, where he kinda just starts fusing and spreading with everything everywhere.

So, if anything, if he HYPOTHETICALLY wanted to 'Corrupt' Earth, he'd just subsume a chunk of it where he'd be able to oversee and expirement on his new dominion.

But... he can't. So he went to the Genship.

Any of that make sense??

[sick canyon]

I wonder if rockwell tried to take over the area surrounding aberration, since it was too broken to purge any element or if he just went straight to arat prime?
He probably just went straight to arat prime because the genesis ship had more space (literally) and also the potential to allow him to eventually take over entire planets.

Anyway...
Arat... PRIME!

[mental basin]

Straight to Arat.

By the time his ARK would be landing, the other ARKs would be purging the Element from the soil, and surrounding area.

[sick canyon]

Definitely

[mental basin]

Don't ask me how Aberration went from being above Sanctuary to crashing near Arat Prime, but... ask the writer.

[sick canyon]

Wait... what?

Ohhh

[mental basin]

Yeah, you can see Aberration from The Island.

The Island is DIRECTLY next to Sanctuary.

Arat Prime is on the opposite side of the Earth to Sanctuary.

So... Aberration uh... kinda...

[sick canyon]

Yeah but you can see multiple aberration and scorched earth's from the island overseer area, I think that's just a gameplay thing

[fallow sapphire]

nah, you can only see one aberration

[mental basin]

No... no you can't...

[sick canyon]

Never mind
Just checked a video and you're right

[ornate hull]

We're the arks locked in place or did they rotate around the planet

[sick canyon]

But you can also see another island map from the overseer arena meaning that there's multiple island maps

[mental basin]

Yeah, they just used the same asset iirc

[sick canyon]

It could be cannon that there are multiple "the island" arks
The arks are completely artificial made from the ground up after all

[mental basin]

No.

Dear fuck

Why does EVERYONE say that

Just no.

The Canon explanation is that Wildcard didn't want to make ten billion different ARK models if we're only going to see them for literally 5 seconds.

[sick canyon]

Then where is the cannon explanation for aberration getting above arat prime?

[mental basin]

Like I said literally 5 minutes ago, ask the writer.

[sick canyon]

Where writer?

[mental basin]

It's not ABOVE Arat Prime either, it crashed into it.

Peter Fries.

[sick canyon]

Hmm... very convenient for rockwell I guess

to crash into arat prime, aberration had to first be above it
And how did it get above it? I NEED ANSWERS

[mental basin]

Doesn't matter.

[sick canyon]

Yeah it actually doesn't
But I need to know all the ark lore

[mental basin]

Watch uhhh

Watch Neddythenoodle's 3 lore recaps

I did a LOT of the writing on them

But we kinda hit a roadblock at 4

[sick canyon]

I've already watched them all twice

[mental basin]

[sick canyon]

[sick canyon]

Nice, I didn't know you worked on them

[valid gale]

how does that even work or do we jsut say magic space tech?

[mental basin]

There's no explanation, but there had been technology able to purge Element on a smaller scale before the ARKs were launched.

[valid gale]

changed its location in the deorbiiting for even spread of element purging

i dont know if thats cannon

but i think its what makes the most sense

[mental basin]

Looking to the Stryders, Santiago designed them specifically to purge Element from the soil of the Genesis-Ship over long amounts of time, seeing as they were unable to get any uncontaminated samples by that point.

[valid gale]

unless they parked them all in geostationery orbit id imagen theyd orbit

[mental basin]

Though note, it was inferred that the process would be utterly slow and tediulous- nothing like the Transhumans eventually went on to achieve with the ARKs.

[valid gale]

nah becuse the arks did it nearly instences

so did we have to kill the king titan to kinda weaken the element?

[mental basin]

... yeah, that's the point.

[mental basin]

Exactly.

[valid gale]

have you ever wathced the deobribting of a space ship

unless youve got a lot of fule and a possible death which

youd deorbit on an angle

as to masimise drag on the atnasfeaer toslow you down

[valid gale]

im still amazed they dident just sorched earth earth

you know hurl it into a black hole

id say burn it but the element could prob suveive it

[mental basin]

...?? Huh??

[valid gale]

as a last resoert

if they coudlent kill the titans and couldent regain the erath

im supised there was not some last resort where they cut there losses and just an old if we cant have the earth no one can

also side note

i wounder if the same tech used to purge the element

could be used to say get thouh a tek wall :)

[mental basin]

..... the Genesis-Project..

[valid gale]

the genisis project had a plan to desotry earth?

dam never mind then

[mental basin]

Uh, no.

Why would they destroy Earth.

[valid gale]

have you met humanity

[mental basin]

That's stupid, and near impossible.

[arctic bison]

what am i even reading

[mental basin]

[valid gale]

they flew a ship acrose the stars and built massive micro biomes

i think our understanding of inpossible was thorwn the window a while ago

[mental basin]

Why would they destroy an ENTIRE PLANET when they could REPOPULATE

[valid gale]

if they coudl repop then they wouldent want to

im jsut supirsed that there was no absolot last resort

[mental basin]

The Element Corruption. Which is why. They made. The ARKs.

[valid gale]

whre they belive that retakign the earth is not possible

[mental basin]

Oh my gawd~
Oh Hell nah~

[valid gale]

what?

[brazen sparrow]

Boy, that don't make no gal-dern sense

[valid gale]

thats true

it would be kinda rule of coool

im sure they jsut had a lot of faith in the arks

[bold dove]

Most fucking generic anti-human response.