lore-nerdz

[frail dragon]

wyvern god would be dodo wyvern

[jovial warren]

alpha wyverns don't exist ofc

Where does she say that

[mental basin]

She doesn't.

And there's nothing stating Alpha Creatures aren't canon.

I think Beller is just here to troll poorly.

[jovial warren]

I was being sarcastic

If there was a "wyvern god" it's either something some other survivor made up
Or an alpha wyvern

But this is never said

[brazen sparrow]

To be fair, there's also nothing stating that alpha creatures are canon, soooo...

[wary ruin]

I highly doubt larger dinos with an orange glow would exist in canon

[glad crow]

Well, in scorched earth notes raia gets milk from killing the strongest wyverns, which sounds like alpha to me, as normal females don't drop milk when killed, but maybe normal females do in the lore.

[wary ruin]

In lore I’m pretty sure they don’t KO dinos

[glad crow]

They do.

Mei yin repeatedly mentions it. If you mean wyverns then they don't as raia is the only one with wyverns, unless their dossier contradicts that.

[brazen sparrow]

They don't KO the wyverns, yes. But that's just semantics and lore inconsistency. Would you really rather it state that Raia now knows how to tranq wyverns out of the blue, or that she killed them and got the milk that way?

[glad crow]

I'm not saying I'd rather either, I'm just saying you could interpret that as alpha wyverns. Maybe not glowing giant ones but a form of them anyway. Or not, I admit it's not conclusive proof.

[brazen sparrow]

Fair enough

[bold dove]

At this point, I'm not going to bother with Beller.
Cause every time they talk, I lose a piece of an atom of my last braincell.

[wary ruin]

True

[quaint marsh]

That's not very much though. You could probably last a few rounds of Beller trolls

[bold dove]

I know.
It's w i ignore him

Shit.
The process is staring

[quaint marsh]

Bootleg, no! Resist it!

[bold dove]

[quaint marsh]

dammit

he gon

Time to tpose on the corpse

[broken star]

The glow is probably just for our convienience, yes

I don't see why occasional larger/stronger versions of creatures existing is so hard to believe though

That's like

the least fantastical part of the whole ark test

[lean bobcat]

lmao yeah, I think alphas are certainly believable as being canon but probably minus the big orange glow

I mean, trikes are canon but they never mention what looks like an angry red speech bubble coming out of their face every time they get angry

And the allos/raptors that Mei Yin tamed would have had at least one of them with a red-yellow glow coming out of its back in-game, that's never mentioned either and yet allos & raptors are canon

[bronze turtle]

Basically: I AM RAPTOR: I shall glow for no apparent reason at all"

[broken star]

the glow fx is just a visual indicator for the player that this creature is an alpha more than the size or color alone would

[candid onyx]

Reapers are a Rockwell thing or Ark overseer thing?

cuz they nasty

[arctic bison]

Reapers were already a thing when Rockwell arrived on abberation

[broken star]

reapers are a defense mechanism for the arks. or just a result of aberration being really messed up (My personal theory is defense system tho)

[bold dove]

They're an ARK thing

[candid onyx]

I think they overkilled it then

[bold dove]

Well, same with Wyverns

The whole ARK-System is overkill

[plain plover]

Punishment

[candid onyx]

well yeah but ... didnt ppl find ways in the story to coexist with wyverns? Reapers on the other hand ...

[bold dove]

Nope

Humans being humans though, did just adapt to the new environment.
Same with reapers.

[candid onyx]

they still feel way better at killing everything with no compromise. The wyverns were already being tamed by other survivors like the old lady , Raia?

reapers? i don't see any notes saying someone living with them xD

[bold dove]

That's cause no one 'could' tame them without respawning.

The moment the newer generation of Survivors came via Helena.
They're basically just puppies.

The Survivors are just built different

[candid onyx]

arks must have been hell without that respawn system 😬

[bold dove]

You fucking THINK?!!?

[candid onyx]

🤣

[bold dove]

They would wipe you from existence just from being too good.

[candid onyx]

but i always thought reapers were a rockwell thing due to them helping rockwell prime in the boss battle. maybe its the element idk

[bold dove]

But honestly though, they're still heaven compared to in-universe Extinction.

Imagine going to Extinction without any respawns.

[bold dove]

They don't help him in the Prime fight

That's only with the original fight.

And while he didn't make them, he does control them.

[candid onyx]

I would love to see some sort of comic or video about the extinction level event that destroyed the earth in Ark. The war against the titans and element ... ufff

[bold dove]

He's part of the element hivemind.
And they have high doses of element for them to be also be slightly part of the hivemind.

[candid onyx]

yeah true

[bold dove]

I'd love a RTS game set during the last hours of the Tek-War, and the beginning process of the Collapse.

[candid onyx]

yeah that would be great

tek soldiers , tek tanks and atvs

[bold dove]

Something akin to Starcraft where you're able to play as 3 factions throughout the campaign.

[candid onyx]

or Company of heroes/Dawn of war type of campaign , just one story from a survivors point of view. Doom creeping slowly untill all is lost

[bold dove]

I don't know.
I like the Starcraft approach more.
Cause I want a campaign as the element hivemind.

[candid onyx]

never played that 1

[bold dove]

Basically, each Act you play as a different faction.

[candid onyx]

i like highly detailed units i can see their faces and all the grime on them. Like CoH and DoW2. Im a sucker for graphics xD

[bold dove]

There's a lot of untouched potential to expand the ARK universe that Wildcard just hasn't done.

[candid onyx]

yeah , i just hope i am alive to see it

but tottally , an rts ark game would rock

[bold dove]

Any style could work as long as it's a spin-off, and not a main IP game.

[jovial warren]

mmmmm rts playing as the king titan
Sounds so cool

[plain plover]

third person lightning action hack and slash

Final boss in Santiago but he turns himself into Vin Diesel using Nano-machines

[bold dove]

That sounds like ARK-2

[solemn linden]

Well to be fair, the wyverns were produced on Scorched Earth in response to the population of that ARK getting a little to comfortable and not progressing on to the next ARK as a result. Effectively they were just an incentive to leave - a little "fuck off!" from the overseer. Aberration on the other hand had it's overseer straight up nuked, resulting in it's surface becoming a burning hellscape. It's possible the reapers could've just been there in the caves the entire time and only got encountered after it all went to hell, but if they were made by the ARK as a punishment, it's pretty clear why it would be much more severe than with the wyverns. Like loitering is one thing, but actually killing an overseer and permanently damaging an entire ARK seems like the kind of thing that would warrant the creation of the reapers lmao

[jovial warren]

I've always had the a theory that the caves of abberation were almost like a "maintenance area" in which you could access the innards of the ark (as you can see the metals bits coming out of the earth almost like supports for the rock to go on to) like an area that was used while the arks were being made and the reapers and nameless were put there as a deterrent to keep surviors out
Idk how much that holds up in actual lore tho

[torn osprey]

now hear me out

bulbdog = bulbasaur

[lyric tendon]

meh

[candid onyx]

I see it as a great reset or cleaning the plate since everything will get wiped out by them xD

Does by chance notes or lore state how much time the Aberation ark had before falling apart? i think someone from a note/dossier said they had to leave the ark because of it being impossible to stay due to critical failures or something like that. Or was it because of the reapers?

[candid onyx]

i just found out Funcom did this with conan exiles

Conan Unconquered

Please make it happen Wildcard!!!

Ark Wars

[lyric tendon]

Because they nuked the overseer

Not the reaper's thing

[candid onyx]

true but the overseer is gone and so is most of the surface, i wonder if a homodeus was behind that overseer

[lyric tendon]

All Homo Deus are "behind" in every overseer

Not just in Ab

Rockwell is the replacement of the overseer because of his high concentration of element in his body

[torn osprey]

or rockwell just happens to be in the way of the Ark's exit.
never defeated Ab but i dont think the Ark can elect a new overseer

[solemn linden]

Helena assumed that the ARK wasn't gonna be particularly happy about the gateway project and may end up doing something similar to what happened on scorched, i.e. tearing the ground open and releasing a horde of new deadly creatures. When they actually headed over to the obelisks to check it out it was shown that the obelisks had become highly unstable and were mere days away from reacting violently. It seems like what they were expecting was kind of just the Tek village getting destroyed in a similar manner to the city of Nosti on Scorched Earth, but Helena does speculate that if the obelisks were to go off it could be the end of every living thing on Aberration, potentially because in it's already damaged state, Aberration wouldn't be able to handle the results.

So yeah, at the time that Helena's Aberration explorer notes were written, Aberration was on the brink of tearing itself apart, but that threat was neutralized for the most part so it's hard to say how much longer Aberration would've lasted if it hadn't come back down to Earth at the end of Extinction.

[lyric tendon]

No

Also without an overseer the ARK will collapse more

Hence it used Rockwell as it's alternative

[torn osprey]

but the ark isnt sentient.

rockwell was holding the ark together for his own purposes

the ark never decided anything

rockwell dosent die on abberation because his holding the ark together

with all his element tentacles and probable body mass through out the ark

[lyric tendon]

No again

Rockwell has no control over himself when he injected himself with Element

The ARK is programmed to keep the uncorrupted landmasses away from earth and purify the corruption at it's weakest

Containing Rockwell in the ARK as an alternative to the overseer is the way the ARK is programmed

The ARK is not sentient yes but like all technology it is programmed to have the task in mind, even without the overseer

[lyric tendon]

Again no

His reach is limited

All the Tek structures is just part of the ARK itself or build by the Tek Tribe

None of it is all Rockwell's involvement including the nameless and reapers

[candid onyx]

This could explain the Scorched Earths Ascend cutscene. Rockwell pulls you to aberration. Maybe to use you as a way of getting out? 🤔

[lyric tendon]

a mere coincidence but mind you Rockwell actually describe that detour in his notes... that is when he is still human

[noble spade]

lore now

[brazen sparrow]

Almost everything you've said here today was false

[broken star]

Aberration is pretty stable when the obelisks aren't in "Survivors are getting too comfy, reset them" mode

LIke, it's no longer an ideal ark, absolutely, but it's not in any immediate danger of further deterioration

[brazen sparrow]

The biosphere is the only thing broken at the point we reach it, really

But the fact that it breaks apart on re-entry during the reseed protocol isn't good 😅

[broken star]

I mean it has sustained massive structural damage

one of its.... three.... things is snapped clean in two, and probably couldn't stabilize its landing

[wicked mica]

I think Bob is gonna be the twist villain of the second season of the ark tv show, I just feel it in my gut.

[bold dove]

[candid onyx]

nah

Bob and bobbete will save the arks and earth

Like the gen 2 pic with a female tek with bow and a male tek with minigun , id imagine bob and bobbete taking helenas role and continuing her fight as the protagonists.

[plain plover]

After Nerva dies in the tek cave, Bob will face off against the rest of the New Legion and defeat them with the power of the Titanosaur. Then he will unite all tribes of the ARK in peace

[broken star]

Honestly I'm not sure what to expect of Bob

My first instinct is that he's The One That Tries Again, but if that means that any scene with Bob is after all of the Island/Helena shenanigans or not... I unno

[brazen sparrow]

I think that's pretty clear

[candid onyx]

imagine bob being present only in one scene , a ending cliffhanger 🤣

[tribal cairn]

Is Bob meant to be the input of the player character? Or just someone new

[candid onyx]

Bob is ark 1 main character , or in my case Bobette. I don't know how the hell is Ark 2 main character

[tribal cairn]

I think it’s Santiago

[candid onyx]

or my head canon bob and bobette are both the main heroes in the ark 1 story after helena and her team

[candid onyx]

i dont think he is. Otherwise we wouldnt be able to pick a female char or edit the default face

[tribal cairn]

Are we able to in Ark 2?

[arctic bison]

should normally still be the same, Vin is likely just part of the story. Would be a waste to not use the new Unreal Metahuman stuff

[tribal cairn]

We should ask the creators

[tender wasp]

You all will have to play as Vin Diesel and the female survivors will be Vin Diesel with a long hair wig XD and a bra

[quaint marsh]

No, not even a bra. It'll just be Vin in a wig

[dense ice]

Man I am so thrilled for everyone to hopefully understand Aberration’s lore

That map has gone long enough with the confusion around its story — which is fair enough, it is confusing if you haven’t analyzed it extensively. And then even if you have, there are still anomalies

[bronze turtle]

im just excited for all the new people who join ark trying to find lore and all the lore pros just looking at them with the most smug faces ever

[lyric tendon]

more like ARK Anime Lore VS ARK True Lore

[bold dove]

You say that, but even out version is a bit different then the original to make it more suitable for a video-format then a book-format.

[lyric tendon]

you can make it a "video safe format" without twisting the original too much

i.e. helena already with mei during a raid

[bold dove]

Sure. And TAS and SS are doing two different things.

SS is trying to recreating the notes as perfect as we can in a machinima format.
TAS is recreating the story in a non-canon alternate-universe. Trying to suit it for the more main-stream audience then just the ARK community.

[broken star]

It's not that confusing

the explorer notes just take place in different states of Aberration which while you're in the "gather notes" stage can be a little disorienting until you get the whole picture

[dense ice]

Tell me what the element extractor is. Did the survivors build the rings that lead from the portal room into the rock drake trench? Why are the fallen nexus and all other giant metal structures as big as they are? How did the survivors build them to such scale without functioning jetpacks?

These are just a few of the questions that make it a very, very, very confusing map -- lore wise 🙂

The survivors state that they extract power from the obelisks "a massive surge of it all at once" -- this is allegedly required in order for the gateway project (the rings) to function by the end. This is one of many things never explained.

The ruins across aberration are all rusted and look roughly the same age. The survivors on Aberration mention that there are already ruins there, so they did not build all of them. However we have no evidence for which ones they did or did not build beyond -- presumably -- the nexus, and the portal room / rings.

[broken star]

So like, one of the first things they did was build the tek armor- T here's a lot of time between when they got to Aberration and when it got to the state we see it in today

[dense ice]

You may come to the conclusion -- as we have -- that these are questions nobody can answer. Except perhaps those who created the map. Even Marc Soskin, the one who wrote most of ARKs explorer notes does not have an answer to these questions because most of them rely on an explanation of the people who created the beautiful map itself.

[dense ice]

Correct, though "a lot" of time is not able to be gathered from the notes themselves.

I have spent the better part of the last 10 months analyzing the explorer notes on Aberration. It is pretty much the sole thing that I do with my life right now other than school.

And so after all that I stand by this: Aberration is confusing. And hopefully we'll clear it up a little bit more soon enough

[broken star]

I mean, I'm looking at them now. DIana's first note talks about the beautiful sky. A few notes later she's talking about how they managed to "cobble together" a "prototype" tek suit based on what they had, with the full armor coming in a month. Shortly after, they're discovering the forcefield, planning to and building the bomb, and fighting the overseer

[dense ice]

Yup, that's pre-nuke Aberration. What we've called "Normality." However those do not answer any of the questions I outlined around the element extractor, the rings, portal room, nexus, gigantic structures, etc.

mm! I almost forgot the railroad track -- the thing that is along the line trajectory of the mini rings that lead up to the portal room.

[broken star]

The rings were built by them, yes. They're part of the gateway project. As is repeatedly established, and you see in the finale cutscene when you ascend through them. The survivors have fully functioning tek suits, as evidenced by half of all Aberration's explorer notes gushing about how cool Tek armor is.

Literally do not know what you're talking about with an element extractor. That is mentioned nowhere. Unless you mean just the fact that the future guys can mine element, which I mean. It's in the ground. Of course they can, if they know where to dig and what to look for. Which they do. Because they come from a world where element is common.

They build technology that interfaces with the obelisks. They're very fancy, but they're still just technology, not weird alien magic. And they're not even alien technology, just human technology advanced even farther in the future than they are

[dense ice]

I'm specifically referring to how the notes connect to the in-game assets used.

The element extractor is the actual filename in the devkit for the giant "spine" that extends from the ceiling of the entire cave down into the Rockwell area.

It is connected to the rings, which are connected to the gateway project.

None of that is elaborated on or mentioned in the notes, which is what I'm referring to

The lore explained in the notes themselves is great! No issues there. Just, there is a huge continuity / mismatch of the lore vs. the actual in-game world.

[broken star]

The spine's just part of the gateway portal thing.

There is no mismatch? Yes nowhere does it explictly say "The weird, eye catching tech thing going down into the depths of the Aberration as a natural landmark? Yeah, that's the Gateway project." Because it doesn't need to, because it leaves that a mystery that's solved when you kill Rockwell and those final pieces slip into place as you follow along and ascend towards Earth up and through them, through the portal which you were probably believing until this point is how you got into the Aberration, but it's actually how you get out.

Aberration wraps itself up pretty nicely? I mean, it's confusing if you're not paying attention, I guess, but that's the same thing that's true of all of Ark's story. Something in the enviroment poses a question in your mind, and then later details from explorer notes or cutscenes answers it. All the maps do it.

Scorched Earth's murals deifying the implants is confusing, until you get notes and trace that it's because survivors worship the Obeliesks, which started because Raia thought they were the implements of her gods. All the ruins in the Island are weird and confusing, until you see that it's the leftovers of a mad tyrant's attempt to conquer everything. Corrupted dinosaurs and kaiju make no damn sense until you see that they're avatars of Element's will.

[dense ice]

Sure -- I'm willing to say that it's part of the gateway portal. However the issue I take with it is the feasibility of it all. How humans in TEK armor without functioning jetpacks built enormous structures the size of multiple king titans stacked on one another.

This is sci-fi, of course. And there were on Aberration for years and years. But just because it's easy to connect the strange dots doesn't make it less confusing or unbelievable.

[broken star]

They do have functioning jetpacks.

[dense ice]

No they don't. Diana specifically says they stopped working after the catastrophy.

[broken star]

Okay, I forgot that part, but they're still incredibly mobile- Helena later on mentions that they had to set up rope ladders and ziplines for her and Rockwell just to keep up with them because they do not have tek armor.

also you've seen the shit players build

[dense ice]

They can still TEK run -- it is impressive. But I've never seen an ark player build something the size of several king titans xD

[broken star]

They can tek run, jump, tear through seekers "like they were dodos"... Lore tek armor is a lot more impressive than the stuff players use

Add on to that that there's a lot of people in this armor, that they're generally not fussed with fighting each other and are cooperating, and have access to a lot of advanced tools and time (It's not like they have gameboys to waste their days on), building big structures is not unbelievable in the slightest

[dense ice]

Yeah. I suppose I'm just salty about the fact we have to logically figure out the stages of how they built it.

It's hard to create an entire "potential" timeline for this building process when you're dealing with so many assets and so many huge structures.

[dense ice]

It's been a pleasure chatting about this -- I rarely have people challenging my ideas, it's really refreshing

[brazen sparrow]

I've never been a fan of the whole thing where, just because it has a name in the devkit, the "element extractor" is assumed to be canon as an element extractor, mainly because we see what it's actually used for in-game, so that kinda clears it up right there for me. There was a tek wyvern saddle in the devkit for the loooooongest time, but that's not canon or even assumed as such (at least, by most of us.) So I don't see why the function of the "element extractor" should be, either. Not to mention the long list of weird devkit/file names of things that make no sense or are just really out of place 😅

[jovial warren]

Tek wyvern saddle would be cool tbh

[brazen sparrow]

Just get a voidwyrm, 4head

Boom, you have what became of the tek wyv saddle

EZ

[broken star]

you know the CMC fight has been living rent free in my head all day and

I think it's actually a really neat detail that reaper kings are the final minion he introduces in the fight. A tie in to the Aberration where Rockwell became what he is. It's a neat bit of gameplay/story integration

[jovial warren]

Cmc?

[arctic bison]

the Corrupted Master Controller (Final boss from Genesis 1)

[arctic bison]

gigas and reapers are the new spawns during the final stage (giga can sometimes very rarely spawn during a earlier wave for whatever unknown reason)

[broken star]

Gigas start spawning in wave 3

Reapers only start spawning in the final wave when you're fighting the man himself

a lot more of them start spawning in the final battle, yes, but wave 3 introduces them to the fight

[odd fog]

Mey Yin tamed Rock Drake with the bow...
She is the Best person i saw

[gusty turret]

Is the element extractor a name for something else or is it just something that never came into the game

Like i assume it was probably gonna be a passive element generator but just because somethings an engram doesn't mean it's canon

It would've fit for extinction like extracting the element out of the air or something but this is the first time ive heard of it

[brazen sparrow]

It's a filename in the devkit for the spine in Aberration, hence why it's non-canon and not referred to in game, like, not a once, lol. It's just the spine as named in game with the extended HUD on, and it's function becomes dead obvious when we beat the map as well

[dense ice]

By all means I don’t take issue with the fact the tek villagers built all that stuff — it is … at least somewhat plausible physically with their TEK armor. The frustrating part about it is trying to rebuild the steps and series of events that showed the progression of how they built it. This is what we have to do in our attempt of showing the story and it is the difficulty that makes this all the more confusing.

[brazen sparrow]

Fair enough, I can understand that

[dense ice]

For someone who is just reading the notes, and playing the game, this doesnt matter whatsoever. But my group and I have to create an entire timeline of them building all of these structures with wishwashy explanations of which structures in question were actually built directly by them vs which structures already existed there.

[brazen sparrow]

And don't get me wrong, I commend you for it, I've loved the videos you've made from the get-go

And there is a lot of unexplained portions of time in Aberration especially that just kinda confuse things, that's for sure

[stray storm]

The element extractor isn't just called that in the files, the environment artist who made it, Mike Rodriguez, also named it that in his artstation post about his work on aberration. But it seems that name is just what it was referred to during development.

I just think what sucks most is that we can only assume what all the ruins on aberration do. Yes, we know the portal room is a portal to earth, and the spine has some connection to it. we also know that the nexus is likely the main base that the tek tribe had, through illustrations and such. but there's things like the railway, or the device around the blue obelisk, or all the tubes running along the ceilings, the big wall in the west biolum, among many other random ruins - those things we don't have as clear of an explanation for. It's not hard to come up with an explanation, there's just the agony of knowing that it might not be the correct or intended explanation. but honestly, I think that they had no clue what some of those other ruins were, beyond some loose head canon the level designers had while making them. It was probably purely to look cool, and give the map more connection to the story, even if the story mentions barley any of the ruins. similar to the island, most of those ruins probably had no direct correlation to anything from the story, they just put them around to imply that there was people before you. They (probably) didn't think of a purpose for those island ruins, or who lived in them, or when they were built. They just put them down, because they look cool, and because they give implications of the story and connect the map to the story, even if it's an indirect connection.

[bold dove]

Nice wall of text

[stray storm]

here's my last wall of text, another rant about the aberration ruins

these ruins are true pain

[lyric tendon]

its kinda hard to figuring out environmental lore cues without a hard confirmation from the lore itself or the level designers themselves

who knows that element extractor is either what is powered the arks before the nuke or it was made to power the portal before rockwell's corruption

[plain plover]

I often find myself face to face with the overwhelming masculine urge to model a Tek Karkinos which would look like something the villagers would have used to build the portal

I already have the model for a Rockdrake platform saddle, I just haven't finished texturing it becuase my substance painter trial ran out

The only thing that really stops me from saying that the villagers could have built all the ruins themself, is that if they could, they wouldn't have gotten their asses kicked in extinction

[storm edge]

Yeah but weren't they stuck till Helena came and started the portal

So this arises theories for me so maybe it just started to malfunction when they got there and they were done but they couldn't activate it because it started malfunctioning [sorry if I got stuff wrong I love the lore it's just really complex]

[gusty turret]

No, they had a plan to build the portal, they thought Obelisk was disabled cuz they knew it would try to stop them, Helena shows up and tells them hey go check it cuz of what she learned on scorched, they say we already did but okay, while they're gone Rockwell becomes tentacle man and kills most of the village, they disable the obelisk entirely and go back, chase rockwell down and big battle in rad zone, rockwell falls into the boss arena and becomes overseer but isn't powerful enough to actually do anything and becomes puppet of the ark, they go back and complete the portal in like a month or a year or something like that and go to extinction

[tender wasp]

You never saw my besties bases XD

[gusty turret]

Their force once they get to extinction is extremely slim, idk exactly but im gonna say like 10-20 people tops, and the horde that comes after them is probably millions of smaller corrupted and probably thousands of smaller titans

Its massive thats all i know and they do minimal damage to the horde as a whole until Mei fuckin solos every last one of them

[tender wasp]

Santiago states in the notes they are set up good with their assets, like dinos, people an Tek gear and a reason he don't understand people crying around.

So I asume they are way more people with a bunch of dinos.

[gusty turret]

I thought most of everything died early on except for Mei and Helena

[tender wasp]

Nah, Rockwell killed some people but he did not purge the whole Tek village

[gusty turret]

I assumed from Helenas notes that pretty much everyone was dead

[tender wasp]

People on Ext died after Santiago sacrificed himself on Extinction and only then Mei and Helena remain cause they leave for the signal

[gusty turret]

She said there were bodies everywhere i associated that with like an least 75% dead

[tender wasp]

Not on Abs.

ANd you still can have a lot of dead bodies with a big bunch people surviving

[gusty turret]

Thats just me misunderstanding the terminology she uses then

[lyric tendon]

I mean casualties like the reaper birth and how Diana reacts to it feels like the deaths there are too common

Provided most of them are not documented

[lyric tendon]

Mind you he reverse engineer the enforcers that also added to their numbers

[tender wasp]

Scouts as well and complains about the idiots trying to ride them XD

[plain plover]

I could totally ride a scout

hope ARK 2 lets me really go for a whole "reverse engineer" playstyle, where I just keep taking tek things and dragging them back to my base

Let me make this clear, that stryder's cannon?

I am going to drag it to my tent 3 miles away

and I am going

to

attach it

to

a

Tiger

I've started playing Horizon Zero Dawn, and I'm seeing just how little the tribes make use of the extremally advanced technology that is literally just lying around

I get that they have superstitious ideas about the machines, and ARK 2 sounds like it will have something similar to that, but I REFUSE TO REJECT TEK

[ember solar]

I mean if you gave someone from medieval times a graphics card i doubt they would get very far with it

[jovial warren]

You gotta remember the people from the ship are also probably from modern or future times

Aratai when they see a random Bob attach a tek turret to their trike:

[brazen sparrow]

The people from the ship are from all eras of human history, so no, some of them might not grasp everything right away. But, the simulation was also training their minds for the arrival to an alien world the whole ride, so who knows? Maybe prospector Jim will know how to use a mining laser...

[jovial warren]

Didn't Rockwell make a battery or something

[brazen sparrow]

He made the charge harvesting stuff, yes

[dense ice]

Rockwell did make the charge lantern, but whats weird is that the tek people developed charge nodes before he even arrived

or the charge nodes already existed there -- thats another possibility

This is substantiated by Mei-Yin discovering a charge node while realizing the nameless fear its light.

[lyric tendon]

makes you wonder if charge is more of a byproduct for making element, hence the Tek people have no use for it

or rather just used for making refined element, never thought of weaponized it against the nameless

[brazen sparrow]

I'm more of the mind that they exist in the Ark already, don't know why but it just makes sense to me. But the question of how the tek tribe gets/knows how to make stable element before then arises as well, unless they knew of them and/or they were on the surface already or some such. The only question then would be how do they know to make it there, and why didn't they mention their amazement at finding the perfect setup to stabilize the element in the notes?

[lyric tendon]

Because they know the method of making them before even sent to the ARK

It's like knowing how to make gunpowder

They mentioned the mines not the molten one

Things would be easier if they made an origin story instead of just return to zero but on a planet

Unless #RTSspinoffPlz

[quaint marsh]

I too believe that the charge nodes were there before the TEK tribe, and since they felt they had more powerful material (element), it would explain why they never bothered much about researching this much more primitive product. Hence the surprise when Rockwell created a weapon with it.

[crystal dune]

If reaper queens have to impregnate a human and this human will give birth to a reaper king , how can new reaper queens can be birthed?

[brazen sparrow]

We don't know

[bold dove]

They don't

Peter confirmed that queens can't be birthed. And the ARK keeps their population in check

[brazen sparrow]

Well, if that is kept canon, then that spells the end of reapers for Ark...

[bold dove]

Well, seeing how they where only in Rockwell's bowls, I'd say they're dead already and we wont be seeing them in ARK-2

But yeah, them not being able to breed is another issue

[quaint marsh]

Imagine if one of the bosses (if there are any) is the last surviving reaper

Would be a fun fight if done well, and a nice throwback

[brazen sparrow]

Unless they're even more like the xenomorphs than we thought, and can undergo a process to become a queen through some means. Also, the whole "oh it was on Rockwell's ring so it's just inherently dead 100% guaranteed" is bunk, the sim still has their data so any dinos from Ark 1 are possible

[bold dove]

True.
That, or Earth-based creatures naturally can evolve and adapt in just a generation, and that wasn't the ARK's doing it.

[jovial warren]

A reaper Matriarch or something would be cool

[brazen sparrow]

Perhaps. Would be a sick mechanic imo if, once we levelled a reaper king up enough, we could just go full biogenesis and turn them into queens. But maybe add a new drawback or downside to counter the strengths of them, like extra damage from charge/electric stuff compared to the king form or something

Maybe an enrage feature either over time or otherwise, like they eventually just defect, but not before impregnating you again? So many possibilities...

[bold dove]

Thing is, Xenomorphs canonically are all females, besides facehuggers.

Just like irl ants, their colonies are 99% females.

[brazen sparrow]

And? The reaper kings could be as well, as far as we know in-game, they're genderless

[bold dove]

King: "the male ruler of an independent state, especially one who inherits the position by right of birth."
Not saying they can't. But it slightly tells us how they work in their names.

[brazen sparrow]

King is not necessarily a gendered term anymore, not to mention the fact that what they're called has very little to do with their anatomy lmao

I could call them Reaper Manic Pixie Dream Girls, and it still would have no bearing on what they actually are 😂

[bold dove]

I'd assume if you're a developer, giving name to creatures. The name should have 'some' form of bearing of their species.

[brazen sparrow]

Differentiation and keeping with the theme are naming conventions too, lol

They could've named them reaper princesses, but it certainly doesn't roll off the tongue like king and queen do 😉

[bold dove]

They did though.

Mini-reaper-kings in some Genesis-1 missions are called "Reaper-princess"

[brazen sparrow]

Reaper princes, not princesses. But yes I get your point

[bold dove]

My original point is that their name is a bit of a better source to know how they work, then trying to base them off of a Xenomorph.
Cause by the end of the day, they're still pretty different from each other. And they legally have to make sure they don't steer Reapers 'too' close to being Xenomorphs.

Cause the last thing Wildcard needs is Disney knocking on their door.

[brazen sparrow]

Well again, it's just a naming convention, doesn't mean they are male or female in the end. Just kinda let's you know that it's a smaller version of the king variant, you know? And they are based off of xenomorphs after all, so looking to them isn't that much of a stretch tbh

[bold dove]

It is in a legality way, since if they base Reapers 'too' much off of Xenomorphs, again.
'Disney ain't nice'

Disney jumps at any opportunity for a lawsuit.

[brazen sparrow]

Meh, still based on em

[jovial warren]

Reaper prince sounds cooler than reaper king ngl

[bold dove]

Based is very different then practically stealing the species.

[merry wing]

But not same meaning

[broken star]

The Ark just generates them

This is a repeated thing constantly throughout the Ark story- The arks are propping up a lot of the ecosystem, up to generating new apex predators as they need to

[gusty turret]

Because the overseer said so is the answer to all your questions

"why is there a volcano right next to a snowy tundra and glacier?"
"Because the overseer wants its lair to look cool"

Idk what my point there was tbh volcanos are very much in snowy areas too

[rain dock]

The overseer might be able to answer why there are so many frikin robber birds stealing my cryoed gigas though

[bold dove]

Back when they where first added, they also ate your fucking guns.
Imagine still having that with cryopods.

[torn osprey]

why does nerva talk about extinction in one of his notes on the island

i found it and read it

cant remember the number, its the holographic tek pedestal note for nerva

[arctic bison]

nerva only has normal notes, the only tek notes on the island are from Helena Dues and HNL-A

[torn osprey]

:-:

no hang on imma take a photo and show ya

like tommorow cuz im away from my ps atm

its one of nerva's first notes

is there a wiki that shows the notes?

[arctic bison]

yh

[torn osprey]

i cant access the official wiki

the note is on craggs island

i cant even find the note on google wth

i'll screenshot it later

[rigid grove]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Explorer_Notes

[brazen sparrow]

Probably because said note doesn't exist, bud. There is no tek note on cragg's island made by Nerva

Certified Schizo Moment™️

[fallow sapphire]

The only tek note on Craggs is from ???, or the one who waits

[brazen sparrow]

Aka Helena Deus

[quaint marsh]

I wonder if the game bugged out and popped up the wrong note

[brazen sparrow]

There is a Nerva note nearby, by I doubt it

[quaint marsh]

Rockwell one too

[brazen sparrow]

Probably just confused, that's kinda how cLeo runs 😅

[quaint marsh]

There are quite a few there actually

Ah, I get it haha

I too am confused half the time, especially when reading this chat

[brazen sparrow]

Fair enough

[torn osprey]

the farest south note on craggs island.

theres a castle edge on the cliff

and a tek made platform with a tek pedestal

[brazen sparrow]

🤦‍♂️

[arctic bison]

[torn osprey]

he talks about a city made of steel

find it and read it urself

its one of those 3d notes u have to spin around to read-

[brazen sparrow]

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Explorer_Notes#???

Note #13

Read it

https://ark.wiki.gg/wiki/Explorer_Map/The_Island

Look at 89.20, 24.40 if you need further proof of your absolute wrongedness

[torn osprey]

it is that one :0

it has a picture of nerva in it (what i think is nerva)

and a broken implant

[brazen sparrow]

...I can't even right now

[jovial warren]

KEKW

[torn osprey]

im just gonna remove myself from all future parts of this channel for ya :I

[fallow sapphire]

im so confused, what part of it even looks like nerva?

[torn osprey]

the baldness and the way it is gramatically similar to nerva's writing

[brazen sparrow]

There is not one single other person as confusing with their points and interpretations as you are, I'll say that much and leave it at that

[torn osprey]

[pseudo nimbus]

How in the fuck does the ab portal work

[fallow sapphire]

ok, to an extent, i can see where you are coming from... but all the notes from ??? are helena as a home deus

[torn osprey]

i didnt even know ??? was a thing

[pseudo nimbus]

How do they know to portal to earth?

Telekenesis?

There's no portal on earth

[torn osprey]

i thought that was a 4th character that i hadnt known yet

[torn osprey]

its called crash landing

[fallow sapphire]

all the tek notes before extinction dont have a name, just ??? and a number

[torn osprey]

idek the ending to abb dont spoil for me 💀

[pseudo nimbus]

How do they get the coordinates to portal to earth

[torn osprey]

i had no idea

[torn osprey]

prolly just shoot straight down

cuz they orbit the earth

[pseudo nimbus]

How do they, just portal to earth

How do they know to portal to extinction specifically too

[torn osprey]

hang on do u like go into a ship and get dropped down or island accension down?

[pseudo nimbus]

No

[fallow sapphire]

do you want it spoiled, or do you want to experience it cleo

[torn osprey]

i mean extinction is supposed to be a proto ark

[pseudo nimbus]

||After you beat Rockwell you go through the rings on spawn to extinction||

[torn osprey]

im not touching that black box.

[arctic bison]

i'm gonna break some kneecaps if this continues

[pseudo nimbus]

It's Moreno a question on how portals work

[pseudo nimbus]

No, extinction is earth

[torn osprey]

so why is there oblisks

[fallow sapphire]

okay, so basically after the tek tribe destroyed ab's overseer and sent everything to crap, Santiago located another signal much further away (on earth). They then used the technology of the obelisks, and engineered the portal to send them to the signal on earth

[brazen sparrow]

Me too, jfc man 😩

[fallow sapphire]

you have no idea how hard it is not too rn

[pseudo nimbus]

The obelists don't work, the obelisk in the city is an invisible barrier to protect the city from meteors

The other obelisks are on each respective proto ark

[torn osprey]

that makes sence

[pseudo nimbus]

But don't function as traditional obelisks

[torn osprey]

Oh.. so its not 1 big proto ark

[fallow sapphire]

no it is not, its 3 proto arks, and the sanctuary, and the space between being the wastelands

[torn osprey]

huh..

[brazen sparrow]

You should really just get around to reading the lore and watching the cutscenes, it would help everyone here's sanity immensely

[torn osprey]

there are cutscenes 🤨

[fallow sapphire]

yes, the ascensions...

[brazen sparrow]

The point of this channel is to discuss lore, and when you don't know any of it, you really have no reason to be here

[torn osprey]

im asking about the lore... still valid

[arctic bison]

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, now you're trolling, tf outta here

[fallow sapphire]

i mean not exactly, people can still come in to ask

[torn osprey]

im not trollin im genuinely asking questions

i accidently hit the laughing face reaction

[fallow sapphire]

the main problem is, you try to theorize without knowing anything... is it bad? no, but it hurts everyone here who does know the lore lol

[torn osprey]

yeah i understand that

[brazen sparrow]

There's no point to theorizing things that we have answers to, it's literally two clicks away, check the pins or go to the wiki page for the explorer notes that have been shared at you at least twice now

[arctic bison]

i'm gonna give you the gen 1 ending - gen 2 intro treatment if i hear another nerva tek note

[fallow sapphire]

lol

[brazen sparrow]

It's just asinine to even say things in here if you have 0 grasp on the lore, just a fact

[torn osprey]

the wiki dosent work too well on mobile..

[arctic bison]

it's even better when you know what i'm actually referring to (kidnapping)

[brazen sparrow]

Get a better phone, I guess? Use a library computer? I don't know what your conditions are homeslice

[torn osprey]

okay this is hurting

[brazen sparrow]

Whe

[torn osprey]

i wanna know more about the lore of the game by asking questions and all i get is insults to my theories. the game is great the community lacks.

[fallow sapphire]

they left

[pseudo nimbus]

Ok

Bruh they left lol

My phone didn't update it

[brazen sparrow]

Wow, ok. Or just leave. Taking offense to someone wanting you to learn the lore and be able to make meaningful contributions to the conversation, that's a new one...

[bold dove]

[bold dove]

They've been like that since they've joined.

[quaint marsh]

Looked like a little unfair treatment though, I feel a little bad for them

Probably new to Ark and this is what they get

[gusty turret]

You want me to learn something? How dare you!!!!! Leaves too

[bold dove]

They've been here for a month and talked in the ark-2 channel

[gusty turret]

How many messages do you guys have

I have over 5000 in this server

Most of which are me being dumb in here

[bitter crater]

and what are the problems?

nvm looks like they may have left the server?

[brazen sparrow]

They did, yes

It works well on my phone, didn't want to say it then but...

[rigid grove]

They were having the same issue I shared with you already.

[bitter crater]

ah, alright

[azure plank]

when the chat is dead

[lyric tendon]

when you are d e a d

[fleet saddle]

Can someone explain the base lore to me please

[bold dove]

Funny space rock came down, people made tek, said people started a global war, war makes funny rock turn alive, alive rock causes extinction of all life, humans made the ark's and genesis-ship to preserve life, the end.

[fleet saddle]

Aaaah so that's why funny monkey man fights alive rock

Thank you

[jagged kernel]

Is bob the one behind all the events of ark

Other one that started the war that corrupted earth, brought everyone to the arks

[lyric tendon]

Bob is us, we made our own story after all the events of the lore

Except for Gen Saga which is slightly more involved

[jovial warren]

Is it just me or does it seem like there's like no transition between extinction and genesis

Iike

You save the earth and boom ur in genesis

The only hints for genesis (that I've seen) in extinction is the couple mentions of arat prime

[bold dove]

Cause there isn't.

That's one of, if not 'the' biggest gripe in the lore-community.
There's nice smooth transitions between each DLC, but then what happens in-game with out survivor is lost between Extinction and Genesis-1.

Which, I'm hoping is going to be fixed with the Extinction switch update.
They're adding a Scorched ending, so who knows what else they'll do.

Oh, and a new intro to The Island

[jovial warren]

I wish they put the part where Helena Deus makes HLNA from the genesis trailer into the extinction ending

It would've made a little bit more sense

[bold dove]

Like that'd clear up the time gap confustion.

[jagged kernel]

Can some lore no life explain me the entirety of ark lore

[arctic bison]

Funny space rock came down, people made tek, said people started a global war, war makes funny rock turn alive, alive rock causes extinction of all life, humans made the ark's and genesis-ship to preserve life, the end.

[bold dove]

AYE, don't copy and paste my shit. xD

[arctic bison]

it's the best summary lol

[bold dove]

[arctic bison]

[brazen sparrow]

There is, it's the reveal trailer for the Genesis set of DLCs

[brazen sparrow]

.

[jovial warren]

@brazen sparrow

[bold dove]

And yet, it required outside confirmation to confirm what happens to Earth post Extinction, and how Rockwell got onto the ship

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, that's my point, the HLN-A creation cutscene is you being uploaded to the ship

[bold dove]

So, going from the platform at the end of Extinction, to Arat-Prime's uplink terminal is a smooth transition?

[brazen sparrow]

And no, it doesn't take outside confirmation, just some effortless, low budget translation of Home Deus language, loser

[jovial warren]

Yeah but they should've actually included that in the game

[brazen sparrow]

Meh, it was good enough for me, especially with the Genesis 1 intro played right after

[arctic bison]

[bold dove]

That's for 'you.'
You're a very, very special person.

[jovial warren]

They could've at least had a scene where we get flown to the other side of the eart where arat prime is

[brazen sparrow]

As are you, mister "I'm too lazy to translate Homo Deus myself, so I don't believe in what it's been translated to say"

[brazen sparrow]

I don't see the reason for it, we know it's on the other side of the planet, and we probably just walk there, boringly

Maybe fly if we can

Still several days or weeks of travel

[bold dove]

Yep.
I don't believe you should have to translate something to understand a fundamental part of a storyline.
I believe that type of stuff is more for the miscellaneous lore.
The more 'cherry on top' then something essential.

[brazen sparrow]

Us being uploaded to the ship is miscellaneous lore, it was left so cryptic and vague for a reason, so you could headcanon that you aren't the same survivor, we've literally had this conversation like eight times now

How could you forget

[bold dove]

The survivor isn't what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about how you need to go extra digging and go detective-mode just to figure out why the 'main-villain' is on the ship you're on, after (what you'd think from a game-only perspective) you killed him on Aberration.

[brazen sparrow]

I personally think that there's already a lot of cutscene there, between the Alpha Extinction ending and the Gen 1 intro plus the events/explorer notes of Gen 1 and 2 it makes it pretty clear how he got there

It's called exposition 😂

[bold dove]

Again, this is 'your' point of view of this.
I'm going off of what a casual player that enjoys the lore, but isn't willing to spend 30-minutest to an hour decrypting stuff.
If you're only going from what's happening in-game. It just seems like Rockwell came back for no reason other then "I've been resurrected again to clap asscheeks"
Which is kind of my biggest gripe with ARK's lore. Is how it's presented as just random notes in-game.
Which is why I'm hoping in ARK-2, any and all MAJORLY important shit happens in-game via missions or cutscenes, while the more minor stuff are within a form of notes.

[brazen sparrow]

The explorer notes are ingame tho

If you really are a casual player that enjoys the lore, you'd go read the notes

Simple as

[bold dove]

You know how many people have told me "there's lore to this game" when they know that the notes give double XP?
Might be obvious for us. But for a lot of people, it seems like they just think the notes are for XP gain only.

[brazen sparrow]

Not to mention literally needing the Gen 1 notes to complete a mission requirement to fight the boss 😂

[bold dove]

You can skip those

You can skip up to 8 missions.

And the glitches count as missions

[brazen sparrow]

You can't skip them if you don't do all the gauntlets, some of which, on alpha tier, are impossible to finish

At least in singleplayer, where someone who cares about the lore would play through 😉

[bold dove]

But I do agree the glitches are better presented then the notes. Since someone actually 'tells' you something once you collect them, then just seeming like a double-xp farm.

[brazen sparrow]

Those people are dumb and should not be counted

[bold dove]

We're not counting then a majority of the community.

[brazen sparrow]

It literally pops up in your face dude, if you can't understand that then I have bad news for you about the state of your mental capacity

(Theoretically speaking, not directed at anyone in particular)

[brazen sparrow]

And that's fine, we were already only talking about those who give a shit about the lore, were we not?

[bold dove]

Fair.

Just want the important lore-bits of ARK-2 actually be in the front-seat, then taking a back-seat in notes.

[brazen sparrow]

I only just saw this, and yeah aside from some of the races and the gauntlets the glitches are my favorite part of Gen 1

Fair enough, I think we can safely say it already is with the wording on the store page and NPCs existing

[jovial warren]

Each individual glitch counts as a mission?
Or like a certain amount of glitches count as a mission?

[bold dove]

There's also the issue that all of the notes are within their apparent nationality.
And subtitles aren't on by default. And it's just a little tiny button on the far top right

[bold dove]

Each 'biomes' glitch counts as a mission

[brazen sparrow]

All glitches in a zone count as one mission

[jovial warren]

Oh

[bold dove]

So, if you collect 'all' of the 40-ish glitches in the bog. That's a mission completed.

Also, I unironically feel like Wildcard is going to pull a Bungie with the PvP community in ARK-2

[brazen sparrow]

That's really only an issue on The Island and Scorched, and the subtitle button is super obvious, I don't know how people don't see it

[jovial warren]

Wdym

[bold dove]

In Destiny, there's a BIG PvP community.
But Bungie puts them on the back burner, and just gives them the scraps of content, while the PvE/Expansion players get the full blunt of new content.

[jovial warren]

Based bungie

[bold dove]

Pretty based.

[jovial warren]

[bold dove]

It's like "Hey PvE players, we're going to give you a whole new expansion giving you ghost grappling hooks, and finally start the process of ending this Saga of our story.
Oh, our PvP community? Yeah, we're giving them a 'single new gun' this season.
Is it a good gun? No! It's a shitty sniper that holds only 3-rounds and makes you aim like a drunken pirate on a ship."

[bold dove]

Extinction is still an issue, since Mei is still alive by then

Oh, Bruce. I have a serious science question though.

[upbeat gull]

How do i beat the spider in island

[bold dove]

Megathiriums.

The giant sloths.
Get some good leveled ones, breed them and get imprinted ones, and get some good saddles.

[upbeat gull]

mosochops

?

[bold dove]

Not what I said

[upbeat gull]

waht about gigas

[bold dove]

You can't bring Giga's into boss fights

[upbeat gull]

oh

do bears work

[bold dove]

Not really

Like I said. "Megathiriums"

[upbeat gull]

uhhh waht abt rhinos

ok fine the furry fat guys what level

[bold dove]

Preferable the highest you can find. Which the max level for wild-creatures is 150.

[upbeat gull]

ok say less

[brazen sparrow]

Not the channel for this

[upbeat gull]

no u

[brazen sparrow]

Ask away, just saw this

[bold dove]

Okay, 'roughly' time is associated with light speed, no?
Like the whole saying of "if you're in Andromeda, you'd still be able to see the dinosaurs if you looked at Earth" since current light hasn't traveled that far yet.

[brazen sparrow]

Supposedly, yes

[bold dove]

So, lets say the Genesis-ship was going faster then light. Alright?

[brazen sparrow]

Yep

[bold dove]

Since it only takes an hour to travel to a whole new star-system

[bold dove]

So, would this theoretically mean that if someone where to go to Arat before us. And if Arat is in the complete opposite side of the Galaxy that Earth is in. Could someone still be alive on Arat in like, 20 years while everything on Earth happens and that thousands of years of the ARK's being in the sky?

[brazen sparrow]

If I'm understanding you correctly, then yeah. Sure

[bold dove]

Cause I wonder how they'll bring back Mei and Diana. (if they do)
Cause they did state being able to fight with legendary hero's with a plural.
And I either thought A: They've just been asleep in the Genesis-ship. B: Different clones of them. Or C: They found Arat before Rockwell came onto the ship, but erased its destination due to Rockwell's arrival. (the doubtful one.)

[brazen sparrow]

I think they were uploaded by Helena Deus to the ship, consciousness intact

[brazen sparrow]

I think that it would make sense from a storytelling standpoint to do that, because then you can have them be stunned when seeing Santiago alive at some point down the line, and other interesting and engaging things to really pull you into the story along that same vein, you know what I mean? @bold dove

[bold dove]

Right.
Kind of like our reaction to see that Santiago is Vin-Diesel now.

[civic frigate]

Does anybody know the lore about "The Islands" I'm just curious.

[bold dove]

What specifically do you wanna know?

[civic frigate]

How it all started

[bold dove]

The-Island is an ARK, which ARK's where made to preserve life after 'the-collapse' that killed all life on Earth.

[civic frigate]

Interesting

[dense ice]

Socks will be knocked off today!!

[quaint marsh]

It's coming!!

[lyric tendon]

Time to stock up some popcorn

[civic swallow]

Wait what is happening

[glad crow]

Neddy is releasing his third season of the notes acted out, aberration. They're very good, and aberration has the best lore, according to most, so it will be very entertaining.

[civic swallow]

Ok cool! Its on YT? I’ll have to check it out @glad crow

[bronze turtle]

guys the real lore is that ark is actually ohio and also the dipoldiclodoclous is REAL its in the game if yuo dont believe me google it

[jovial warren]

True

Had first hand experience

[tender wasp]

It was a really good watch =)

[small rune]

@dense ice that was great, really enjoyed it :)

[dense ice]

I’m glad 🙂

[pseudo nimbus]

So I watched the ab survival story and it made me think
How and why in the FUCK is there mineable element on ab but not any other ark? Even in normality?

[lyric tendon]

Ab made different

[pseudo nimbus]

Whe

[chrome sierra]

Honestly bro I’ve just watched that video as my first video of your content and that’s hella wholesome. I deffo rate it and it was a nice respite from the toxicity of the actual game. I hope wildcard will maybe add a element virus as canon when Ark 2 arrives and just completely wipe the servers etc for Ark 1. Anyways I appreciated your work!

[lyric tendon]

it's called ARKpoc

and it hope it's standard

[chrome sierra]

You ever be in a 40 man giga line getting yuti and Mek buffed on ark poc? - I was just saying I want wildcard to fully wipe all servers. It would probably bring loads of people back as well and it would make it feel like a little bit of justice for tribes who built there whole tribe on insiding and buying servers etc.

[lyric tendon]

nah no more official

[chrome sierra]

Also all the dupe loot, 296, etc etc Looks like you have a steam role so you should probably be familiar with the state of the game.

[plain plover]

6 month wipe cycle would be cool for ARK 2

it's a little ironic, given that the point of the genesis project was to abandon the seemingly unfixable earth, the point of ARK 2 is to abandon the seemingly unfixable ARK 1

[bold dove]

[storm edge]

The fact that Mei yin nockout tamed a rock drake is just badass

[quaint marsh]

she's built diff

[slate star]

I read up on element lore and it's really similar to phazon from Metroid Prime.

The King Titan even acts like Metroid Prime or other guardians.

[bold dove]

More akin to the protomoleculer from The-Expanse

[slate star]

I haven't seen the expanse... yet

Moving up my list now

[bold dove]

Should watch it.
It's actually what Element is based off of.

[slate star]

Have you played metroid prime?

[bold dove]

Yep

But the stuff in The-Expanse is actually what Element is based off of.
The writer confirmed the show/book series was his inspiration for it.

But Phazon is also pretty close.

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, they're both pretty close as far as the effects on life

[bold dove]

Also lambency,

And kind of the flood.

[solemn linden]

Also Tiberium

There are a lot of things that are pretty similar to element

[fervent heath]

Anyone know how to fix "could not receive address" pc?

[brazen sparrow]

Not in this channel, maybe in #bobs-with-probs though (also, just restart your game? That tends to fix it unless it's serverside, then you're just S.O.L. usually)

[fervent heath]

Thanks for responding, I really appreciate it, but it still does it after pc restart, game restart, loading into single player then trying to get into server, doesn't work.

[brazen sparrow]

Like I said, not the channel for it. But you may find someone that can help more than I have tried to in #bobs-with-probs or even #bug-reports if it's a more widespread issue.

[fervent heath]

ok i went to that channel and asked.

[bold dove]

The fuck is Tiberium?

[solemn linden]

It's from Command & Conquer. I haven't even played those games but learnt about Tiberium through a Gmod mod lmao. Basically Tiberium is a crystalline alien substance that arrived on Earth in a meteor. It used it's underground "roots" to leech materials from the ground and form more crystals, which were rich in precious metals, making it initially beneficial for humanity. Then it revealed itself to be extremely dangerous and infectious and began mutating life around it. Stuff happens, wars are fought, Earth's ecosystems get majorly messed up. Oh and Tiberium releases radiation. Sound familiar?

[bold dove]

Yeah, mostly cause this type of plot is normal for sci-fi

[solemn linden]

Yup. Just thought that since you were listing things similar to element, that Tiberium would be a good thing to add to that list lmao

[sick canyon]

Nope
That doesn't sound like element at all

[bold dove]

How did they kill off Tiberium?

[solemn linden]

According to the Command & Conquer wiki: "Using knowledge gained from the Tacitus, the GDI/Nod alliance began constructing a Tiberium Control Network, a global system that could reverse the growth of Tiberium yet still harness the massive amount of energy it generates. The final TCN node was completed in 2077."

"the Tiberium surrounding the worldwide TCN nodes began to disappear, finally ending Tiberium's threat to humanity."

[bold dove]

Hmmm

[solemn linden]

So basically seems like if the ARKs used the whole removal of element thing to generate power

[solemn linden]

lmao

[bold dove]

Feel like Gears has the most accurate ending for element.
They killed lambency via a EMP blast that covered the whole world, and killed anything with imulsion in their system

[solemn linden]

Interesting

[bold dove]

Watch the Gears-3 ending of you don't mind spoilers

[solemn linden]

will do

[bold dove]

Even lambent creatures look like corruption if it was yellow

[solemn linden]

Yeah, they kinda look like a cross between the mutated survivor skin from Gen 2 and the corrupted from Extinction, since they have the gunk and glowy bits of the corrupted, but also the fleshy tentacle looking parts of the mutated survivors. Lovely shade of yellow as well lmao

[bold dove]

Very lovely

[dense ice]

I've noticed since part 1 came out, a lot of people are now speculating how the following series of explosions happened after the survivors set off the nuke. It's genuinely funny to see the rabbit hole we had to go down for months haha

So many unanswered questions!

[lyric tendon]

It gets deeper

[mental basin]

Absolutely insane job Ned

Chef's kiss

[shut bough]

That’s what she said

[shut bough]

Dude that was the best survival stories I’ve seen yet

I’m going to apply to become a body actor next chance I get

[young needle]

Love how Rockwell was so scientifically blinded that he thought he was the ruler of the arks

His story is awesome XD

[bold dove]

Like, he's not entirely wrong.

He started creating creatures from his own whim on Genesis-2.
He in his own sense, is a god.

[young needle]

I know he isn't wrong. Rockwell is truly an intelligent person, but he did kill the tribe leader in Scorched Earth

[bold dove]

Big brain time

[young needle]

Yes but it was evil, he didn't have to kill him, they weren't much of a threat

They were idiots 😂

[bold dove]

To be fair, that tribe was related to Mongolia.
Which, (if we're assuming same era as Mei-Yin came from) where not good people either.
Barbaric and slaughtered anyone they came across.

Which, that tribe in the notes where very, very 'not good'

[bold dove]

He first encountered them in a village 'they' burned down

[young needle]

But it doesn't give Rockwell that right, he didn't have to kill him

[bold dove]

They also take slaves

[bold dove]

It's survival, rights aren't a thing anymore.

[young needle]

That isn't rlly why he did it tho, he seemed pretty sinister

[bold dove]

He did it to have a escape plan.
He also did state he doesn't even fully know if they did die, since he wasn't there to see if his poison was lethal.

[young needle]

What is your point, he didn't rlly have to kill him

He already used their simple mindedness against them

[bold dove]

He didn't 'have' to.
But he's not entirely wrong that the desert is better off without them.
Since, yah know.
They condone slavery.

[chrome sierra]

I’m gonna agree with bootleg, Rockwell if anything is very much an idealist and it totally fits in my mind that he would do that reasonably

[bold dove]

Pre-Aberration Rockwell, at least.

Aberration and beyond, yeah, he's a full on sociopath.

[plain plover]

I will totally become an Aratai slave dealer in ARK 2

[lyric tendon]

conan player be like

[plain plover]

step 1: get them addicted to narcoberries

[bold dove]

True

[chrome sierra]

Step 2: Don’t get executed by Numeri

[bold dove]

Hope we do legit get a way to ally with them.

I'll be pissed if we can't

[plain plover]

I imagine something like Fallout 76's mole man dealer, where one of them owns a trading post where you get the most powerful items in the game from.

[chrome sierra]

That would be funny, and they could recycle players who die/don’t play anymore

[jagged kernel]

How do void wyrms produce shit

[brazen sparrow]

Probably the same way anything else does, I'd imagine

[bold dove]

[young needle]

Would hardly call him an idealist, it doesn't seem like his actions were for the further of the simulation, moreover for his gain, just to prevent threat for him finally finding element

Again- XD

[wary ruin]

Either way the leader of that tribe was pretty cruel, the ark is better off without him, I highly doubt they would’ve lasted long as they didn’t seem to be interested in progression through the arks

[lyric tendon]

most people in SE are not keen to do the trials apparently

[bold dove]

Most people on the ARK's as a whole don't seem interested in actually escaping.

Besides Aberration.

[lyric tendon]

that too

[quaint marsh]

Probably because they don't know of escaping lol

I don't know of any note suggesting a tribe did any research

[lyric tendon]

Rockwell's team of scientists are technically a "tribe"

[quaint marsh]

I wouldn't call them that tbh, since Rockwell's job is to be above the tribes and look at the benefit of the whole Island. He was the Island Councillor, after all. Plus, authors don't count ;)

[lean bobcat]

Regardless of how bad they were, imo it's still a bit f***ed up that Rockwell delivered the guy's child and then proceeded to make said child an orphan

I like it from a story standpoint though, shows how he's becoming less and less moral

[bold dove]

Oh yeah, no. It totally is.
But that's a skill-issue on the babies part.

[lean bobcat]

(don't think that's how you use that word but yk what i mean)

[lean bobcat]

lmao

tbf my favorite part of scorched earth's lore is when Rockwell poisons them all

[arctic bison]

Rockwell made insiding a tribe cannon to the lore

[lean bobcat]

cause like... it's just so eerie to me that Rockwell agreed to act as a doctor and deliver the tribe leader's baby in order to gain freedom, watches him and his wife being all happy and thanking him and admiring their little baby, then around a month later kills them all (or at least the father)

really shows his descent into madness, because even if the tribe was pretty bad and went around pillaging/keeping slaves, it takes some real heartlessness to kill someone after seeing for yourself their families and all of the people who will miss them if they die, including a month-old child that YOU delivered who will never know his father because of you

Especially when they didn't even do anything bad to Rockwell in particular, they kept their end of the bargain and let him free, even gave him a fairly nice place to live; not to mention that killing them was most likely unnecessary as they probably wouldn't have particularly cared if he tried to leave the ark

[arctic bison]

another certified Rockwell moment

[lean bobcat]

yup

[grim root]

lore 😳

[forest rose]

Hello y'all

for all you lord nerds

what character do y'all find most interesting?

[bold dove]

As generic of a response it is.
Diana and Rockwell.

[forest rose]

Defiantly Rockwell

I found Nerva most interesting for me

[bold dove]

We never got to really know Nerva on a personal level for me to personally care.
He's a cool 'concept' but it's hard to like him when his notes just talk about killing.

[forest rose]

I find his need for order & stability & power on the Island interesting

[bold dove]

And I do like that also, but that's sadly mentioned only like once in his first note.

[forest rose]

how he describes in one of his first notes

something about the anarchy of the Island

[bold dove]

Wished his later on notes kept to that type of mindset.

[forest rose]

Very true

I would love to see Nerva come back, like, resureected by the Obelisks or something

[bold dove]

He thought the constant struggle and survival of people where anarchy. So he formed the New-Legion to (forcefully) bring order

[forest rose]

Indeed

[bold dove]

And that's what I mean by 'good in concept'
I'd love to see what they do with him in TAS

[forest rose]

Rockwell & Nerva's relationship was also very interesting

[bold dove]

True.

[forest rose]

defiantly

There relationship seemed to be built around the Obeliks & Rockwell teaching Nerva

Nerva provided the resources, Rockwell provided the knowledge

[bold dove]

Nerva thought of Rockwell as an equal, the only 'sane' (ironic) person on The-Island that didn't need order. While Rockwell was just using him.

[forest rose]

Rockwell used everybody

[bold dove]

Yep.

[forest rose]

thats what made him such a great villain

he used everybody & they didnt even know it

[bold dove]

Even on The-Island, he was sketchy as FUCK

[forest rose]

Rockwell & Nerva, my two favorite characters

I do not like Helena much

she's interesting, sure, but as a character meh

[bold dove]

He tried to justify his reasoning of "for the betterment of humanity"
But slowly derailed once on Scorched to flat out murder (that we think) to full on genocide on Aberration.

[bold dove]

True

[forest rose]

Rockwell is such a more interesting character over walker

[bold dove]

Helena was kind of a idiot.

[forest rose]

lol yes

[bold dove]

"Hmm, yes. It took me literally to see the island itself is a space-station before knowing it was artificial"
-Obelisks, implants, barrier, the unnatural biomes: Allows me to introduce ourselves.

[forest rose]

I do find Rockwell's & Walkers findings on the Obeliks interesting

[bold dove]

Oh, also animals that're 50 million years old.

[forest rose]

how Walker noticed the ecosystems should be collapsing

but aren't & Rockwell's fascination over element & the obelisk effect on the Island

[bold dove]

Should've been a dead giveaway that it was artifical.

Hell, the biggest theory before the added the ending 'was' that The-Island was artifical, or a simulation.

[forest rose]

I mean like, if you find yoursself awake after you died on this random island with a bunch of dodo's & pigs on a beach

I think we would all be confused

[bold dove]

The community of fucking 'gamers' thought of that before the biologist.

[bold dove]

Sure, but she had 'years' to study The-Island

She was on it long enough to call it 'Home' and accept that there's no escape.

[forest rose]

Perhaps

I would love to see more about the tribal wars

New Legion, Painted Sharks, Black thumbs, etc

in the show. It would just be fascinating

[bold dove]

I'd like to see about just everything.
How the economy would be on a realistic ARK

And what would happen if 'everyone' unified on an ARK, and not just a single city?

Cause Nosti was sunk due to it being a big ass city and 'too' peaceful.
But what happens when literally 99% of the survivors banded together around the 'whole' ARK?

[forest rose]

Nosti got obliterated by the Obeliks

that was interesting

Everything about the ARK's is amazing

and makes a great story

[brazen sparrow]

Oh no, another person who misspells "definitely" as "defiantly" 😂 , you have competition @bold dove

[bold dove]

Silence you Wench

[forest rose]

english is bad

[lyric tendon]

d e f i a n t l y

[rain dock]

Defiantly spelling definitely defiantly

[quaint marsh]

More than 200 days I think. Better than most YouTubers nowadays, they only stay for half of that

[forest rose]

I would love to see something about Earth after the ARK's returned

that would be a good story

[pseudo nimbus]

Diana?

[pseudo nimbus]

Yes yes I remember swamps being right next to snow yes yes

[bold dove]

Did I saw swamps?

[reef harness]

does anyone know how helena walker became a homo deus?

google doesnt seem to answer

[bold dove]

She was dumb and put a random object into her implant and was clinically dead.
Mei brought her to a chamber, and this chamber resurrected her in a energy form/a Homo-Deus.

[reef harness]

ah i see

[forest rose]

lore

[brazen sparrow]

The amount of players that come in here and say "Lore" is amusing, as if they didn't know the game had lore or something

[forest rose]

talking to me?

or someone else?

[brazen sparrow]

Not you in particular, just musing on the case to the void, I guess

[forest rose]

I mean like

my username on here is quite literally a ARK character

lol

anyway

So like is there any special/unique characters to Aberration & Extinction?

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, I know that. Just usually the peeps that do say simply "Lore" are an interesting bunch to me, nothing more nothing less

[forest rose]

ah alright

[brazen sparrow]

In a word, yes

[lyric tendon]

For example, you being crispy

[gusty turret]

Was she clinically dead? I always assumed it was just comatose

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, she wasn't dead lol

She mumbled things iirc

[gusty turret]

This is absolutely just semantics and not important at all but Mei mentions her still breathing and having a pulse so Helena definitely wasn't clinically dead

That too

Im not sure if i like the Mei Diana romance more or if I would've preferred a Helena Mei romance after Diana was killed

[brazen sparrow]

I don't really care for any romance in the game, doesn't add (or detract) anything for me

[gusty turret]

I just like the dinosaur lesbians

[gusty turret]

Abb was always a big cave system right?

[brazen sparrow]

No, it had a surface that was akin to the island supposedly

[plain plover]

well, it did always have the caves, apparently.

It's an odd detail that there are tek ruins that were built by people, but not by the villagers, implying that another population of advanced humans lived in the caves before them

and a really stupid detail that wasn't needed if you ask most people, considering what the tek village canonically built, they could have totally had buildings in the radiation zone

but for whatever reason, nobody had actually explored the entrance too the giant cave system until after they nuked the pillar

[bold dove]

This is one of those moments I said something dumb when I first wake up.
When I said 'clinically dead' I was thinking of a 'Coma'

[forest rose]

Why did they destroy the Obelisk?

[lyric tendon]

overseer... not obelisk

and the reason for that is to escape

[forest rose]

the abberation obelisk is destroyed, so was that due to the overseer being destroyed?

[lyric tendon]

no but there are 2 cases it's either from the impact of the debris or no overseer to keep it up

it's like you didnt install an Operating System in your PC

your PC still runs but it needs the OS to function

[barren sedge]

Sorry to say it but as the channel states,

[lyric tendon]

and??

[forest rose]

Interesting

[glad dirge]

Why do we travel between arks?

Why do we have to go to scorched earth and aberration after leaving the island before being able to go to earth

[rigid palm]

The overseer sends you to the next ark to keep testing you. Originally you were supposed to be ‘worthy’ and able to go to earth, but as time went on the requirements became higher and higher until the overseers wouldn’t send anyone to earth

So the people on ab built the portal to go to earth

[glad dirge]

👍

[brazen sparrow]

Yeah, they just circumvented the Ark's normal cycle of sending you to the next one forever

[forest rose]

ARK's lore keeps on getting better & better

but why did the overseers deny anyone going to Earth?

[fallow sapphire]

Because the system broke. As one of the “one who waits” notes mentions, with a system making millions of calculations, an error is bound to appear, and eventually that turned into the bar to what you had to beat being raised more and more, till there was no way to beat the ARK’s outside of escaping like the tek tribe did

[bold dove]

Due to the fact that corruption spread even more after humanities extinction. Which where outside of the ARK's calculations, and the effort of being able to go to Earth was practically impossible.

[mental bronze]

Can someone tell me like the start of the lore like how the hell did u get up on a dino phakin island with smth in yo hand

[fallow sapphire]

Cause your a clone from any era in time you want created on a floating rock in space to hopefully one day save earth

[bold dove]

Funny space rock came down, people made tek, said people started a global war, war makes funny rock turn alive, alive rock causes extinction of all life, humans made the ark's and genesis-ship to preserve life, the end.

[leaden halo]

Hey

[bold dove]

Yo

[lyric tendon]

That image you posted is possibly the concept for the nameless

You know having "spines in their back"

[bold dove]

Or could be a new creature they never added.
There's many creatures that David posted that never made it into ARK.

Like a normal beach crab.
Or a electric-version of a thorny-dragon

[lyric tendon]

It is kinda looks like a nameless with spines to me tbh

[bold dove]

We also seen nameless concept art before.

[solemn linden]

Was it the chupacabra one or the flesh gremlin that Bootleg is using as a profile pic?

[lyric tendon]

flesh gremlin

[mental basin]

Flesh gremlin

[brazen sparrow]

Flesh Gremlin™️

[solemn linden]

I see. It probably isn't nameless concept art, considering the other concept art for them we've seen indicated that they started off as a chupacabra that was planned to be on Scorched Earth. I doubt they started with a chupacabra, then randomly made it into a fleshy abomination, then went back to it just being a chupacabra for the final design.

It's got some biomechanical looking parts and a xenomorph style inner jaw, so maybe it's related to the reapers? Looks like it's probably not really related to anything that actually made it into the game though, or at least isn't very closely related.

[plain plover]

it looks like a nameless to me

more in line with the early Rockwell concepts

[solemn linden]

True. I just think it's weird that the original chupacabra concept art looks far closer to the final nameless design that this, despite the fact that this would have been made later on. It's possible the nameless originally weren't going to look like a chupacabra but they didn't like they designs they had for them and ended up reusing the chupacabra concept art.

[lyric tendon]

also the mention of spines in the back in mei's notes

[solemn linden]

True. Those are also featured on the chupacabra concept art that did end up becoming the nameless. So it may suggest some kind of relation.

In general that thing looks like a cross between the nameless and a xenomorph and we know that the reapers are based on xenomorphs and work with the nameless, so maybe at some point in development the relationship between the two was going to be clearer, with the reapers looking like a xenomorph-nameless hybrid?

[mental bronze]

Oooo

[mental bronze]

Thx

[cinder schooner]

Why are there Tek Dinos in ARK?

whats their lore?

[lyric tendon]

P r o m o t i o n

[brazen sparrow]

They are not really super lore friendly, they were part of an event. But if you reaaaaaally want a lore context for them, they're there because the Arks are breaking down

[lyric tendon]

Nope they are just "modded in"

The only canon for Tek Dinos is in Gen 1 and 2 with Nida

Them existing in the ARK Saga is just for promotion

Same with DodoRex/Wyvern

[brazen sparrow]

Not really, they were for Extinction Chronicles and were in Extinction first

They are canon in Extinction

[lyric tendon]

The Chronicles barely count as canon either

[brazen sparrow]

But they are though, so we have to make do

[lyric tendon]

There is no note about them

[brazen sparrow]

But their existence as spawns in Extinction from launch day makes them canon regardless

They weren't added in later, they were there from the get go

[lyric tendon]

But that would make the same reason with DodoRex/Wyvern in Island and SE

It all comes down to is that the Tek dinos in the ARK are not canon, and just there for promotion

There is no note nor dossier in regards to them

[cinder schooner]

tbh, i feel like the promotion dinos should get lore

not the dodo stuff

maybe that, but like the tek dinos probably do deserve some lore

[lyric tendon]

It shouldnt because the events of the lore is the time AFTER you set foot in the ARK

That is why the chronicles pop up after the main lore

[brazen sparrow]

But again, they exist in Extinction the very first time we go there. And why would they need dossiers? They're literally the same as their fleshy counterparts lmao

[lyric tendon]

The Tek notes for Extinction chronicles are more on addressing you as "The one who never give up"

Hence it is not part of the main notes

[lyric tendon]

Same reason why the corrupted has their own dossier even though they are basically the same as their fleshy counter parts but stronger

(Just like the Tek Dinos)

[brazen sparrow]

The corrupted dinos don't have dossiers what lmao

[lyric tendon]

They do

[brazen sparrow]

Post it

[lyric tendon]

They have a dossier entry

[brazen sparrow]

Ok, post it, official wiki is allowed here

[lyric tendon]

I am in my phone, hard to type here

Just search corrupted dinos and you see them

[brazen sparrow]

Weird, forgot about that completely. But it still has no bearing on the tek dinos, imo

[cinder schooner]

screw this shi im making dossiers for the tech mfs

[lyric tendon]

You do that

[pseudo nimbus]

Iconic

[bold dove]

I believe Marc stated that they're only canonically on Extinction (at least pre-Genesis 1) and that they where meant as a countermeasure to corruption.

They thought corruption couldn't spread onto metal and infect A.I.
Obviously, they where wrong.

[brazen sparrow]

Bootleg coming in clutch with the Reddit info

[bold dove]

Not sure if this is a compliment, or an insult from you.

[brazen sparrow]

Take it as you will, I always look kindly upon knowledge lol

[lyric tendon]

speaking of reddit

someone from the ARK Theory Discord asked the writer of Gen to ARK 2 about how rockwell end up in Gen Ship

he told us that it's indeed helena's fault, if that were the case, Rockwell might actually took hold the Earth until he is not satisfied

[cinder schooner]

who are the 4 other master ai in the genesis dlcs

[cinder schooner]

yall we need to theorize

i really wanna know imao

[fallow sapphire]

I mean, there is literally nothing to go off of to guess

[lyric tendon]

all of it is already solved unless you wonna pester the writer in twitter

[simple slate]

[karmic jewel]

Less than a month to extra life

Hope we get some reveals about the base building

[bold dove]

I hope we get some actual gameplay.

[arctic bison]

during the ark 2 reveal in june they did say we'll get gameplay down the road soon in the founders message

[bold dove]

True.
Extra-Life is the closest that's to 'soon'

[plain plover]

I think that this Extra life we will get things

[robust lotus]

🤣

[jagged kernel]

How did rockwell get into the federation ship

And how did he survive after we killed him anyway

[fallow sapphire]

There was a link between a point on earth called Arat Prime and the Colony Ship which Helena used to get to the ship, which Rockwell aswell used to get to the ship once the Arks came down

[fallow sapphire]

Because when he merged with Aberration and became its overseer, it had an adverse effect of bringing him back to life every time the survivor beats him.

[jagged kernel]

So after the arks fell after we killed the king titan he got out of the ark and used the link to travel to the ship and starting integrating himself into it and eventually hacking the simulation?

[fallow sapphire]

Yep

[jagged kernel]

Corrupting the humans inside the simulation while changing the ship however he wanted

And I’m assuming his plan was to find a planet using the ship and turn it into his own world

With all his ideals

[fallow sapphire]

Basically

[jagged kernel]

I have almost all the explorer notes in the game and I never read them 💀

[plain plover]

he wanted to subsume enough mass to be declared a national park and therefor would no longer be taxed

[jagged kernel]

Ike 90% of explorer notes

[fallow sapphire]

Yeah thats not surprising lol

[mental basin]

Rockwell slams his tentacle in the ARK door.

[honest nebula]

quick question how dose your survivor get from extinction to the gen 2 ship are they different survivors or the same and did the extinction survivor alive on earth

also did rock well kill the other survivors after extinction or is earth healing

[mental basin]

You can pick for yourself.

It's a bad explanation, but it's the official one I guess.

And no, he went straight to Arat Prime to my knowledge.

If he did kill anyone on his way there, we don't know about them and they're unimportant.

[honest nebula]

but he was on the abberation space station when it crashed

so how did he get there

arats the planet right

[mental basin]

Nope

Arat is the planet

Arat Prime is where the ship launched

[honest nebula]

ok but from my knowlage the ship was launched years before extinction

and rock well came from the simulation or something like h l na

[mental basin]

Nope, after.

Or, wait, no.

Yeah, it was launched wayyy before.

[honest nebula]

no santigao made the arks and theship

[mental basin]

Not singlehandedly?

Anyways, there's a link to the ship at Arat Prime. Rockwell and Helena both used that link.

[honest nebula]

k thanks

so is earth healingw

[mental basin]

Ye

[honest nebula]

will we go back to it in ark 2

[mental basin]

No.

[honest nebula]

we could

[mental basin]

Maybe.

But there's no reason to.

[honest nebula]

yeah your right

[gusty turret]

unless they bring Rockwell back again

[gusty turret]

He ended up just starting a church and achieving the same purpose

Noglins :)

[plain plover]

There is a super transmitter in Arat Prime that he could use to teleport his soul or something

[lyric frost]

I don't think that will after the ending cutscene to gen 2

He showed emotion and regret for the first time probably since he had been human

[gusty turret]

In theory theres another Rockwell that was on the ship unless thats where he got his new body from on the ship

But that wouldn't bring him back on Earth

They'll just decide Aberration refabricates him again and yeah

[lyric frost]

If there was another rockwell on the ship he'd be human though

I guess he could discover element again but as far as I know ark 2 isn't supposed to have tek

[bold dove]

Tek does NOT mean element

And they already confirmed tek 'environmentally' is staying.

[lyric frost]

Ooh sorry I missed that

[plain plover]

Tek spear tek spear tek spear

[brazen sparrow]

Given both the fact that Aberration clearly broke up on re-entry and the part where having guardians (bosses) and overseers in a post-needing-to-challenge-the-survivors world not making sense, I think it's safe to say he's gone from that system and not being replicated again any time soon

[gusty turret]

They're a video game company, retconning lore to make more content is what they do best

[brazen sparrow]

Just because 343 and other AAA studios do it doesn't mean Wildcard has to lmao

[arctic bison]

can't wait for them to bring rockwell back to look like the rock and talk in a french accent after being respawned again

[lyric tendon]

That would depends if both ARK Anime or ARK 2 is good enough

Plot holes maybe bad but retcons and unfitting rewrites are the worst

[bold dove]

There has been retcons that have benefited a universe more.

[lyric tendon]

If you are fine with Diana and Raia being retconed

[bold dove]

Not what I was referring to, nor has there been any confirmation of this.

[brazen sparrow]

Whe

Who in their right mind thinks they're going to remove Diana and Raia 🤣

[bold dove]

Probably due to the confusion that Santiago was in the promotional image, and that people think the Native-American dude is John.

Even though, you know.
'People with the same name can exist'

[bold dove]

"John/Thunder Comes Charging
19th Century Lakota warrior"
"John Dekeya
An outlaw from the American-Frontier/Wild-West era that was in the 1860s-1890s"
The Lakota tribe also where located more in the upper U.S, and nowhere near Texas. Which is where John 'Dekeya' was iirr.
I have no idea why no one has put this together.

[brazen sparrow]

*Dahkeya, but yeah, what a weird misconception

Like, just read the full name and look at what he's riding

Dahkeya NEVER rides a pteranodon bro

[bold dove]

Santiago was also literally hold a Bulbdog.
Which we know for sure aren't on 'ANY OTHER ARK' but Aberration.
Hints why most likely his background is black. Cause he's nowhere on The-Island.

[brazen sparrow]

How hard is that to understand

[bold dove]

Very, apparently.

[brazen sparrow]

He's just there because they have the voice and are clearly doing Aberration

So like

Tf

[bold dove]

That, or promotional to show 'hey, Vin is in the show.'
Either way, does not confirm that Diana and Ria aren't/wont be in the show.

[brazen sparrow]

Doesn't even hint that they might not be in the show, that's just people grasping

[bold dove]

Yep

Also, hold up.

[brazen sparrow]

I'm holding up

[bold dove]

I think I just found something that might be a stretch, or confirming something

[bold dove]

"Alasie:
Peppy 17th century inuk teenager, "growing up fast on the ARK.""

Wonder if they'll confirm if even humans are effected by the rapid aging. 👀

[brazen sparrow]

I think they just mean like she's being thrust into a grown up world with grown up consequences, like dying

[bold dove]

Also seems like she's a collector of animals.

[brazen sparrow]

But idk, they might

[bold dove]

She got a dodo, dimorph, para, iguana, and a rex around her.

[brazen sparrow]

That's not that much of a stretch as the Raia thing 🤣

[bold dove]

That also.

They could totally explore more about how humans work on the ARK's.

Like, if she's this young. Then I wonder if she was 'born' on the ARK?

[brazen sparrow]

Eh, I don't think so, but there's a chance

[bold dove]

It'd be interesting.

Then there's Bob.

[brazen sparrow]

The fact that they say she's specifically Inuit is telling

[bold dove]

I also love how Henry, a American. Has a fucking crossbow, the second closest thing to a gun/musket.
He's a true American. 🫡

[brazen sparrow]

Meaning either both of her parents are Inuit and somehow met on the Ark, or that she was brought back at whatever age she is (probably the 14-18 range, it seems)

[bold dove]

Right

[brazen sparrow]

Henry is a patriot spy, after all

[bold dove]

A true Merican.

[bold dove]

From the little we know, I think Henry and Alasie are gonna be my favorites out of the new characters.

Henry is....well.....

"GUN!!" 🔫
And Alasie looks like she's the happy-go-lucky type that has somehow tamed as formidable of a beast as a Rex/Carno/whatever that is on the right.

[brazen sparrow]

I hope they aren't super focused on, and that the focus remains on the actual main characters. I'm all for side characters and such, but the main ones are badass and seeing their exploits in action is kinda all I wanted from the show to begin with

[bold dove]

If the show gets popular enough. They could always make a side-series of the remaining characters that're on The-Island still after Helena leaves. And end their stories with it.

That's if all of the side-characters don't die horribly.

[brazen sparrow]

Possibly, that would strike my fancy, as long as they tell the Scorched survivors' after-stories

Always wondered what happened to that baby

[bold dove]

True

They could totally do it as a side-series along with the main-series. And each ARK moves to the different side-characters, but not before ending the previous ARK's of course.

Also, look at that dodo Alasie is holding.
They're having the time of their life.

That motherfucker is smiling, and I love them.

[brazen sparrow]

Just livin life

[bold dove]

Actually, now looking at it. They're all smiling.