#3D Printing Shrine

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hazy kettle
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though do you do adaptive meshing?

grand void
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yeah im using kamp

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its enabled by default

hazy kettle
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klipper has it natively now but yeah that works too

grand void
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are you running the stock extruder or an upgrade?

hazy kettle
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on my trinity, or cc?

grand void
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im still unsure if i go for an orbiter 2.5 or sherpa mini

grand void
hazy kettle
hazy kettle
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@lapis nova once your printer decides to behave, post a make of my file

hazy kettle
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i'm honestly torn...part of me wants to sell my trinity and buy another CC1 just to have two matching printers, but the other part of me tells me that there's nothing wrong with the trinity...

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but it doesn't do abs very well since i have to rig up a diy enclosure

hazy kettle
lapis nova
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I just got home, I printed another ring with outer/inner wall order, smaller layer height

hazy kettle
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weird, i use inner/outer and it worked well

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and i did 0.2mm as well as 0.1mm

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F100 battery tray - using aluminum foil while i wait for my battery contacts to show up

lapis nova
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Oh nice

hazy kettle
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skull

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that's with inner/outer?

lapis nova
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here’s the outer/inner

hazy kettle
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should've gotten a better printer

lapis nova
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There’s still a tiny bit of ringing but it’s on the bottom where tripod foot is

hazy kettle
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should've gotten a better printer

lapis nova
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oh fun fact, the deburring tool is only for right handed people

hazy kettle
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left handed "people" don't deserve nice things

lapis nova
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I was using it yesterday in my left hand and it was really shitty

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I then switched and it was working fine

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💀

hazy kettle
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yeah

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they only go one way

lapis nova
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Well I see a blade on both sides so PepeLaugh

hazy kettle
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no

lapis nova
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I just ended up cutting the old one 💀

hazy kettle
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?

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you what

lapis nova
hazy kettle
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should be just as easy as putting it on

lapis nova
hazy kettle
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just do the same thing with a screwdriver to take it off as you do putting it on

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like the readme says

lapis nova
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I didn’t read jack shit

hazy kettle
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ok man

lapis nova
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Perfect photo studio ngl

hazy kettle
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holy low res

lapis nova
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💀

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erm it’s 48mp

hazy kettle
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there

lapis nova
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Yw for the make

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Lots of effort for that btw

lapis nova
hazy kettle
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fr

lapis nova
grand void
hazy kettle
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how about no

grand void
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wait for another aliexpress sale and get the qidi q2

hazy kettle
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what’s so good about it

grand void
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can be run locally and in orca as well

grand void
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its a good package at 350€

hazy kettle
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sounds nice

grand void
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it does have the usual china printer software issues tho

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nothing terrible since you get access to klipper

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and all the macros

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I have also ordered the other parts for the sv08 rebuild. Would love to get some 9mm belts and a better bed but that‘d be too much for now

toxic fox
hazy kettle
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sounds right

grand void
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@lapis nova look new printer you can buy

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the image still has the lidar sensor

lapis nova
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$40000

bronze plover
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My P2S is making weird noises... a rumbling.
kinda sounds like my water boiler...

lapis nova
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@hazy kettle @grand void

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Fuck this is tempting

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Active chamber heating

grand void
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yeah but its not really worth it as an upgrade from the p2s unless you desperately want 2 hotends

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it kinda makes the p2s obsolete at 629€ tho

lapis nova
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If it had higher temp hotend I’d really consider

hollow fiber
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so just a p2s with 2 hotends?

bronze plover
hollow fiber
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just asking other spec wise

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i print with the bambu support stuff a lot so this could be cool

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was gonna get a p2s but glad i didnt :p

bronze plover
hollow fiber
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eh as long as it prints petg and asa its fine lel

bronze plover
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in that case, chamber heating will be very useful for ASA

hollow fiber
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mhm should be nice
little much for the combo personally but worth it over p2s i think

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especially for how much less waste and the speed increase ill get

hazy kettle
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it more matters that the chamber has acclimated and is consistent, and that printer components have time to acclimate

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do a 30 minute soak with the bed at 100° and you’ll be able to print with a 25-30° chamber without warping issues

grand void
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@hazy kettle now i just gotta assemble everything lol

toxic fox
hazy kettle
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it can yeah

grand void
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the issue is that a lot of people act like its the universal solution to warp free parts

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which it definitely isn’t

grand void
hazy kettle
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it's not bad

grand void
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im the type of guy to encounter every possible software bug out there lol

hazy kettle
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lol

grand void
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btw are you running can or usb?

hazy kettle
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can

grand void
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im still not sure if i should go can or usb

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the ebb36 can do both

hazy kettle
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canbus is easy once it's set up

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and all in one cable is nice

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i forget, do you have to run an additional cable for USB?

grand void
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yeah with the ebb36 v2 theres an umbilical cable that runs to a usb adapter and the type c to type a to the mainboard

hazy kettle
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makes sense

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that doesn't do power too does it

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or does it inject 24v into that usb cable

grand void
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can requires 24v power from the mainboard right?

hazy kettle
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or from the psu, yeah

grand void
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im not really sure how to set that up properly. The guy in the tutorial ran the can cable to the power input of the mainboard right beside the psu cable. Unfortunately he didnt show he did it lol

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just looked incredibly janky

hazy kettle
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what mainboard is that again?

grand void
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manta m8p

hazy kettle
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just take CAN H/L from here and 24v and GND from your PSU

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or you could take it from your mainboard's power input but i don't like doubling up terminals

grand void
hazy kettle
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do you have a meanwell style psu?

grand void
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sorry for the confusion im talking about this connector

hazy kettle
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yeah i misread

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just smack some of these spade connectors on the wire

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if you don't have those, you can just do the bare wire

grand void
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the l/h connector is just a standard jst 2.54

hazy kettle
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don't do soldered wire

grand void
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no worries i didnt plan to solder a wire to the psuKEKL

hazy kettle
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people do that for the mainboard power inputs instead of getting barrel crimps and that's especially where it can cause fire hazards

grand void
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ill just buy a set of spades. The plan for this project is to do it without any major janky solutions

hazy kettle
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definitely the simplest solution, and they're good to have on hand

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in the meantime there's no reason not to temporarily just do bare wire - just wrap it around the screw post the opposite direction of the screw turning so that tightening the screw pulls more wire in instead of pushing it out

grand void
hazy kettle
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this is just 24v but yeah

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these type of connectors

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they should always have barrel crimps, bare wire if you need something temporarily but never solder-coated wire

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sometimes people will just coat a wire in solder but the pressure of the screw will crack it and lead to it backing out and shorting

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bare wire should be perfectly fine on your psu though

grand void
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yeah the bed is 220v

hazy kettle
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ah nice

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i come from before the times of mains beds

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i forget they're a thing

grand void
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24v bed on the q2 is so slow

hazy kettle
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24v bed is all i've ever known

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😔

grand void
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do you know where the control_in cable from the ssr goes on the mainboard? Id assume its the ports labeled bed power?

hazy kettle
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probably...i'm not sure

grand void
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im pretty sure it does but ill compare to where it goes on the original mcu

grand void
hazy kettle
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fair

grand void
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are you running a filament sensor?

hazy kettle
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nothing on trinity, cc1 has one but it hasn't been configured in klipper yet

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probably going to end up with a nightowl or some other simple mmu though so i'll have to get that set up as well as a toolhead sensor

grand void
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i didnt plan on running on either but since i bought an orbiter 2.5 and theres a dedicated sensor for it, i ended up buying one. Also does tangle detection and theres an easy tutorial for connecting it to the ebb36

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the original sv08 sensor is pretty horrible and sits outside the chamber which is annoying

hazy kettle
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that's nice

toxic fox
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95c gotta actually use CPAP or axials

bronze plover
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Anyone got a print for Step up rings?
mainly looking for X-82mm
All i've been seeing are small steps.

lapis nova
grand void
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Id just buy them on aliexpress

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metal in this case will just be superior compared to what you can print at home especially when it comes to getting the threads right

hollow fiber
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it will be about 50x stronger and cost you less time

toxic fox
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only time I would print adapters is resin but even then its just way cheaper and better to buy em of ali

grand void
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@hazy kettle have you replaced core xy belts before? Im thinking about splicing one end of the new belt with one end of the old belt together. With that i could just pull out the old one and the new one will just follow through

hazy kettle
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that's the simplest way to do it

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just tape the ends together or something

grand void
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doesnt the tape add too much thickness which could cause excessive friction?

hazy kettle
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how else were you thinking to do it

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once you have the tension off the belt, they should be pretty loose

grand void
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yeah ive already removed the tool head mount and the belts are just hanging there loosely

hazy kettle
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little bit of tape joining the two shouldn't be an issue

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and then just untape it when the new belt is through

grand void
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its kinda unfortunate that i need to replace the belts at all just because theyre too short for any other toolhead mount besides the original

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1.5gt belts wouldve been sick but that adds too much work for now

hazy kettle
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bummer

toxic fox
grand void
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printqualitymaxxing lol

toxic fox
grand void
toxic fox
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Wire drive would be fun

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But atleast fucking steppers and drivers come in

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Alotta the higher amp ldo shit is kinda mid to shit ngl

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Cm06 and 08 just win straight up

grand void
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ive recently seen a printer without belts that used some magnetic shit to move the xy axis

toxic fox
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The linear motors

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Have issues

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Because we don't have actual firmware that can run realtime

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And they have other issues

grand void
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its a 3 year old video tho so idk if that technology got anywhere

toxic fox
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Magneto is just a failed gravageheap

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Printers are engineered so its good enough not good

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😭

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Bbl stepper driver tuning is mint thou

grand void
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I guess thats fine for a lot of people. Id assume the average Bambu P/A series buyer doesnt even know what vfas are

toxic fox
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Most people don't know shitall

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Klipper is a big mess

grand void
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The key is to act confident despite knowing shitall

grand void
toxic fox
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C based

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Low language

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Like yk canbus is fuckign stupid cuz it's uart

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Nothing changes

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Host -> UART Packet -> USB signal -> UART packet -> MCU -> UART signal -> SPI signal -> CAN Packet -> SPI Signal -> UART Packet -> Toolhead MCU

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Like wallahi

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Cuz klipper is fucking stupid

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Lemmie find a rant

grand void
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whys it so popular in consumer printers tho

toxic fox
toxic fox
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Cuz it's high language

grand void
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like back then marlin was really popular but gradually got replaced by klipper

toxic fox
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Give a monkey a computer and it can use klipper

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Also compiling marlin is a pita

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If U haven't done it

grand void
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i havent done anything in that regard

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id be happy if i dont blow anything up once i got my sv08 reassembled lol

toxic fox
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Make Ur bed pwm 50% full power is kinda overkill 💀

toxic fox
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U seem too cautious to fuck shit up

grand void
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yeah im the type of guy to read the manual a hundred times and double check everything before firing it up

toxic fox
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like tbh my klipper hate is overaction tbh It works fine enough

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Its just like

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Ugh

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I would highly advise having a saftey relay that your pi/whatever klipperhost can activate to cut power

grand void
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How would that work. Im using the BTT Manta M8P with a CB2 which directly slots into the Board

toxic fox
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yk how theres the extra pins

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use one of em to activate the ssr

grand void
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there are a lot of extra pinsKEKL

toxic fox
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the gpios

grand void
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ah ok thanks. Will see how to do that when i got everything else assembled

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still need to wire can, flash the mcus, replace the belts, build the toolhead and correctly crimp all the cables

grand void
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@hazy kettle just to double check is this correct

hazy kettle
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looks good

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i’d trim as much tape as you can

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so it fits

grand void
hazy kettle
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lol

grand void
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i have better tape but its probably too thick

grand void
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but it was near the end so not a big deal

hazy kettle
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💀

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miss me with that

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i enjoy having a printer i can easy work on and access

grand void
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the core xy belt routing is definitely annoying

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but with that trick its definitely much easier

grand void
# hazy kettle miss me with that

managed to finish the belt replacement today but it ended up being pretty shitty. the top belt intersected with the bottom one. Had to manually route the belts after that lol

hazy kettle
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😭

grand void
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im not sure how that happened tbh

grand void
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@hazy kettle toolhead is getting close to completion. Just need to print the carto mount

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just realised how dirty my soldering mat is lol

hazy kettle
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looks nice

grand void
# hazy kettle looks nice

yeah ppa cf is pretty nice. Not sure if i wanna use a carto mount that has room for an endstop sensor tho

hazy kettle
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might as well, you can always just not use it

grand void
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ive never had issues with sensorless homing but ive read that the dragonburner doesn’t really works with it on the sv08

hazy kettle
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bought the Canvas MMU for cc1

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$55 seems like an insane value

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only downside is it removes the lid, but i'm sure i can find a workaround

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downside is...this

lapis nova
grand void
hazy kettle
grand void
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ive done that with anycubic before

grand void
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petgs pretty strong lol

naive forge
grand void
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@hazy kettle i dont think this is normal or is it? Extruder Temp shoots up to 250c and then the printer shuts down. Weirdly the extruder isnt clogged or has any other faults

hazy kettle
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i've...never seen that error

grand void
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great im continuing my curse of encountering every software issue out there

grand void
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i dont know why it does it tho

toxic fox
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prob preheat but it fucked up lmao

grand void
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this doesnt explain the mcu shutdown tho

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@hazy kettle sorry for bombarding you with questions but you were using an ebb36 iirc? Which size ferrules did you use to connect the heater cartridge to the terminal connector

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i dont really wanna do bare wires

hazy kettle
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i have a bunch of random hardware and connectors

hazy kettle
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are two V0s worth $200-$250

lapis nova
hazy kettle
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?

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no

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probably using $12 V6 hotends

lapis nova
hazy kettle
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no

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they're nothing special

hazy kettle
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Two Voron V0 original kit builds with heavy usage. Both print, no electrical issues, but should be rebuilt for cleaning and recalibration.

Things to fix: hot end cooling fan replacement, stripped bolt on print head assembly, rusty A/B bearings, top cover.

Comes with a box of parts such as replacement temperature sensor, heaters, input shaper, part cooling fan, etc.

Needless to say, Voron printers are not turnkey and they are projects in themselves. Please LMK if you have questions.

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looks like Pi 3b+ with SKR mini E3V2 boards

grand void
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the things to fix arent a big deal either cost wise

hazy kettle
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looks like they're selling in the Voron server for $150ish (plus shipping)

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and yeah no major issues

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they're original V0s not V0.2s, but that's fine

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i'm asking what kit they came from

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i have absolutely zero need for one of these - much less two - but i've always loved the V0

grand void
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you could probably fix them and then sell one to recuperate the 200$

hazy kettle
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potentially

grand void
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looks like an ldo kit at least the left one

hazy kettle
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selling a 3d printer sounds like a pain honestly

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but i like the idea of having a small and fast ABS machine

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(again, not sure what for, but i like the idea)

grand void
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eh it was actually quite decent for me. All buyers just wanted to see a benchy

hazy kettle
grand void
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for abs the dragonburner would be better

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or like an a4t

hazy kettle
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a4t 🫶

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seems like decent stuff

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no thb is annoying but no big deal - i could potentially throw an ebb36 in there easily

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u2c or utoc

grand void
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yeah a first gen ebb36 is like 12$

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its a v0.1 so not a first gen v0 which is good

hazy kettle
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yep

toxic fox
hazy kettle
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yeah that's what i'm worried about with my custom printer

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a v0 is probably easier to sell than a custom printer, but still

toxic fox
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It's all just shit to sell

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Better to honestly to minmax if you have the time and put in the effort into Ur machinr

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V0 is a pre fun platform though

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You could slap 2504mah and run them at 3.5a

grand void
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or you could do a tommy houghton move and slap nema23‘s at 48v in therePepe5head

hazy kettle
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😭

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i'm not doing anything crazy

toxic fox
hazy kettle
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might do a thb and a few other minor things

grand void
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neko, since youre here i have a question for you. I accidentally cut my stepper motor cables in half (lol) and bought a replacement. How do i figure out the polarity of my motor? Id assume with a multimeter but some people were recommending to just plug it in and if its not turning then i need to switch wire pairs

hazy kettle
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that's the simplest way

toxic fox
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no pussy shit

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3.1nm

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bend frame ahh

toxic fox
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other option manually combining the pairs

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just connect em together and try turn motor would have much more resistence

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tbh you can easily outperform 99% of the consumer printers for sale

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just doublesheer so you can actually run the basic 1.5-2.2x tension on gt2 belts

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then if needed you can upgrade
Btw go with runice if you wanna buy components cuz they're actually gates profile unlike cheaper shit like mellow

grand void
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im currently getting outperformed by 90a tpu lol

toxic fox
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wet ahh filament

toxic fox
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due to the regen breaking on nema 23s

grand void
toxic fox
hazy kettle
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i forget, what did v0.2 change over v0.1?

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other than the extrusion-based tophat

toxic fox
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mini stealth changed, sensorless homing

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different skirts I think to make it easier to acess

grand void
hazy kettle
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doesn't sound like much

toxic fox
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when tryna turn the stepper by hand

grand void
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thanks. Theres also this drawing of the stepper motor but im not sure if its of any help

toxic fox
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Pair ac and bd

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That would be Ur a- a+ b- b+

grand void
toxic fox
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Nah it's drawn out already U see the screenshot

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It shows it

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But you can also do that

grand void
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yeah but how do i figure out which of these wires are ac and bd

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idk i might sound stupid but i dont really get it lol

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i think someone said that black/green and blue/red are often a pair but since there arent any standards

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basically what im trying to understand is if for example black/green go into the ac pins and blue/red into bd or the other way around

carmine crest
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a v0.2

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so i would say yeah

hazy kettle
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will buy

toxic fox
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Aslong as U have the pairs

grand void
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@toxic fox doesnt seem like wet filament was the issue. Dried it at 70c for 14h

lapis nova
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@hazy kettle

zenith sequoia
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they're wires, so theres no like pairs or stuff that matters

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you can paint them all pink

grand void
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neko probably thinks i have an iq of room temperature nowkeko

lapis nova
zenith sequoia
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holy crap

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hail Mary thing?

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painting stream next

lapis nova
lapis nova
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its all different parts in different colors

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these are just the white ones

zenith sequoia
lapis nova
grand void
lapis nova
lapis nova
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@grand void

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@zenith sequoia

grand void
grand void
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the lego concorde….

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a man of culture i see

lapis nova
hollow fiber
lapis nova
hollow fiber
grand void
hollow fiber
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as you do

grand void
hollow fiber
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another volvo

grand void
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im not really into cars anymore. Has cost me too much sanity and money lol. Id still love to own a novitech 812 competizione though

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i still need to do a timing chain replacement on my 1 series coupe and im not looking forward to it

hollow fiber
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this volvo is like a grand and shoild be very fun

grand void
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@hazy kettle do you have a bento box or similar installed in your diy printer?

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wait the printer wasnt even enclosed right?PepeLaugh

hazy kettle
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and generally if you let the fumes have time to settle it’s no problem

grand void
grand void
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@hazy kettle toolhead is (almost) assembled

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main issue now is finding a proper mount for the ebb36

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i printed one but it was for the gen 1 so it didn’t fit

grand void
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@toxic fox just wanna double check my mains wiring before burning my house down lol.

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i have the dc bed side of the ssr going into bed-power

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but from what ive seen it apparently needs to go into the bed-out port and i need to wire the bed-power ports directly from the psu

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what im refering to

grand void
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@hazy kettle as a carto owner yourself, how would rate the distance between the sensor and the bed. Everything is mounted according to the carto specs but the screws sticking out makes me a bit nervous lol

hazy kettle
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should be fine

grand void
toxic fox
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it goes to ur controller board

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shit diagram

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but that part goes to ur controller

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the other part goes to ur psu

grand void
# toxic fox this doesn't go to ur psu

yeah its currently hooked to the BED-POWER Ports on the Mainboard. But from what ive heard it has to go to the BED-OUT Ports on the mainboard.

And then the BED-POWER Port goes to the PSU.

I have ordered 16 awg wire for the BED-POWER -> PSU Connection. Should be fine i assume?

hazy kettle
toxic fox
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They soo cute

grand void
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i definitely need more than 120mm^2

grand void
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@hazy kettle are you able to judge if these ferrules are inserted correctly? There arent any loose wires and theyre snug under the clamps. Polarity is also as it should be

hazy kettle
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i don’t see any issues

grand void
grand void
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well im not actually dead but flashing the mcus has me dying inside lol

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i at least managed to get the firmware onto the cb2 but thats about it for today. Still gotta flash the mainboard as well as the ebb36 and get can running

hollow fiber
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@lapis nova a2l?

lapis nova
hollow fiber
lapis nova
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Not awful

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The drawing and cutting shit is cool

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$470 for printer only

grand void
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its more of an a1l neo lol

lapis nova
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I want to see this bed flinging back and forth lel

grand void
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they shoudlve gone all the way with the L and do like 500mm^2

lapis nova
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😭

grand void
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i wonder if the bed is the same as the h2c

lapis nova
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Bed slinger that would be wild

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yeah pretty sure it is

grand void
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only 80c

lapis nova
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well print bed is same size

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like u can use the same plates

grand void
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which is fine mostly but in the winter i always use 80 and sometimes more for petg

lapis nova
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oh how I want an H2D

grand void
# lapis nova Bed slinger that would be wild

the kobra 3 max is about that size. Prints pretty good actually so bambu would definitely be able to do the same. Theyd have to manufacture a new bed tho which wouldve driven up costs

lapis nova
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yeah and they would release an H2L or something before a bedslinger version

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have the flagship get the bed first

grand void
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they released the a2l at the perfect time to distract from their current controversykeko

grand void
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bambu basically cut off 3rd party slicers from their network plugin last year you remember

lapis nova
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oh yeah

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now that takes effect?

hollow fiber
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excuse me?

grand void
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and someone made it work again and they send him a cease & desist letter which sparked a new controversy cuz something with the AGPL license

lapis nova
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28lbs

grand void
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this sums it up pretty much

lapis nova
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idk what the problem is

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orca is literally Bambu handy

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with a different ui color

grand void
# lapis nova orca is literally Bambu handy

theyre all licensed under the AGPL v3 Open source license. And bambus slicer is a fork of prusa slicer/slic3r which are also licensed under the AGPL v3. So bambu basically used publicly available code to build their slicer but forbids the community to modify that open source code

hazy kettle
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why would you buy a big bedslinger

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especially a 320mm^2 one, that’s easily achievable in a corexy printer

naive forge
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cobre being a corexy snob

hazy kettle
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naive forge
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Not everything has to be a race to the bottom, existing large bed slingers are shit cause they try to make it as cheap as possible

hazy kettle
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i mean a K2 combo is $500 isn't it

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you loose a bit of build area but i'd take that any day

naive forge
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It's one of the biggest issues in 3dp scene, they are trying to make shit as cheap as possible so as many people buy it as possible

hazy kettle
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it’s a race to the bottom in slop

lapis nova
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starting to think cobre just a hater for everything he doesn’t own

hollow fiber
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same thing different hobby

lapis nova
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real

hazy kettle
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the trinity being the junky onekeko

grand void
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perfect fit for you