covfefe nerds

[harsh lily]

yes

[rare acorn]

hot diddly damn

how could I have guessed

[harsh lily]

i do better art on flat whites than lattes bc theyre smaller

[vital stream]

Hello

I mostly drink filter and soup, but occasionally I have a cappuccino or espresso.

[thorny hare]

do you have an espresso machine of some sort?

[vital stream]

I have a decent

[thorny hare]

wowie

[vital stream]

This thing

[thorny hare]

yeh

countertop one?

[vital stream]

Yes, with legs

[thorny hare]

maaate

end game cofi

[thorny hare]

this taco guy has a decent

[vital stream]

I used to own a roastery also

[thorny hare]

woah

this guy coffees

what happened to the roastery

[vital stream]

I got bought out against my will

[thorny hare]

you got bought out?

like business was too good?

[vital stream]

Nah I was partial owner

[thorny hare]

and you had to sell your company because someone offered you too big of a stake?

oh

your partner bought you out

why did he do that

[vital stream]

Wanted to take the company in a different direction

It was doing pretty good

[thorny hare]

what direction did he want to take it in

[vital stream]

More commercial

I didn’t mind the commercial part but I wanted to keep the specialty part and the other two didn’t

It wasn’t making mega moneys but it was fun

Anyways I still want to see if I can roast for myself but commercially it’s over

It was hard to manage on the side with a proper job as well

[thorny hare]

oh wow so you had to manage a roastery on top of another job

[vital stream]

And that’s how this hobby started. I took some of the money I made with coffee and bought my photography gear.

And how about you guys, what are the set ups like in here?

[thorny hare]

im shooting making coffee on a gaggia classic pro with a gaggiuino mod, with a turin df64 ii grinder

beans are typically bought from a local cafe roaster every 2-3 weeks

i use whole milk

i mostly drink flavoured lattes, mochas, americanos

a future project would be nice to create a cafe, dedicated to media creatives

that would be fun

tailor merch with top coffee

[vital stream]

That would be really fun

My cousin tried a old film focused cafe

Didn’t work but it was really fun while it lasted

[vital stream]

That’s basically a decent tho

[thorny hare]

no dual boiler though

i guess its somewhat close

[vital stream]

Decent isn’t dual boiler either. It has two pumps so I can do temp profiling, but honestly usefulness of that feature is very limited

[thorny hare]

yeah i just googled it

it uses like smart technology to be able to utilise different temperatures efficiently

its cool

its probably a lot faster than mine though

i need to wait a lot

[vital stream]

It’s pretty fun to do temp profiling, and I think it helps a bit with stability in general, but I’m sure it’s way past diminishing returns

[thorny hare]

to be honest i dont have enough time anyways to mess too much around with espresso, i just like the fact its able to consistently deliver good results and that keeps me content

if i get the free time to be wasting spenny beans then yeah

i would try, but right now all the different sliders n stuff on my mod make no sense to me

[harsh lily]

i lowk want a meraki

tha fancy ass all in one machine that kills the brevile sage whatever

but more professional and more power

[thorny hare]

meraki looks nice

linea mini would be the biggest flex though

too expensive for most people to be justified though

shit is basically the leica of coffee

[rare acorn]

every passion business nightmare
"my business partner wanted to make more money"

[rare acorn]

I mainly do pourover
but I've got a classic flair and red clix coman for the rare latte

[vital stream]

Commandante was our standard qc grinder. Solid piece of gear.

[rare acorn]

@thorny hare

not my photos

but bakers markets, popup cafes, competitionspace, craftsmenship appreciation, all by small cafes for such a small community

very cute

[rare acorn]

need coffee

[thorny hare]

my message never arrived it seems

i swear i had sent messages

maybe didnt go through

wish we had those here

[rare acorn]

thought we lost contact forever

[thorny hare]

I had a whole bunch of messages and it just said “failed to send message. Hold for options.”

But yeah

Small creative coffee villages are cool

[rare acorn]

drinking an instant coffee right now, made with some condensed milk, rice Asian style

[grizzled heath]

i love condensed milk with coffee

[thorny hare]

instant coffee with condensed milk is pretty peak asian style

its good too +1 yummy

[rare acorn]

new coffee

tastes good

got a Yunnan Red wine

coincidentally the cheapest coffee on this list despite having the highest potential imo

well it's $70 a kg, so not that cheap, but it was nice

got a nice sticker pack with it so I dig it

[rare acorn]

tight tight tight

[rare acorn]

which coffee's that

[thorny hare]

Salted caramel latte

[rare acorn]

I had a really good latte today

not really a latte but they call it a cream latte

it's a separated latte (iced macchiato?) with a cream foam layer on top

[thorny hare]

did you leave and rejoin

or why did you leave

[lapis mantle]

This channel keeps disappearing from my list.

[thorny hare]

It disappears because of inactivity

You need to be active in it

[grizzled heath]

uhm I was in a bit of a bad spot

[thorny hare]

This looks expensive

And very scientific

[rare acorn]

now we know air weighs 0.005g

[thorny hare]

Mocha

[rare acorn]

really nice

jordan coffee art progress thread

[thorny hare]

big pog

[harsh lily]

4 stack (fuck the bubble)

[rare acorn]

made a massive cup of matcha last night

and made oatmilk coffee this morning

@thorny hare hey man how you doing

[thorny hare]

Hm?

Meh

Alive

[rare acorn]

that's good

living life?

[thorny hare]

Yep

[thorny hare]

Coffee today

I ran out of room during the pour

This mug is a good bit smaller

[vital stream]

What a photo

Latte shart balanced by the feet

[thorny hare]

yes

[rare acorn]

by @slow hearth

[grizzled heath]

bench coffee

[harsh lily]

b

[uneven acorn]

fire art

[dim pawn]

ayo there's coffee nerd channel in my PL?

Nvm it's just full of latte art

[thorny hare]

what a rude cunt

[dim pawn]

hey man, i enjoy my coffee aswell no offense

[thorny hare]

is this how pessimistic you are?

[dim pawn]

No

[thorny hare]

the channel is about coffee, we do talk about coffee from time to time

no need to be a prick about it

[dim pawn]

It's just a quick 30 second scroll, i've only seen latte art

[thorny hare]

because the channel is so small, not everyone is active at the same time

but if we are active, we do talk

you need to improve your outlook on the simple things and stopping putting other people down lol

[dim pawn]

I'm not being serious, we've joined the espresso aficinadoes

i'm not trying to put everyone down lol

[thorny hare]

take your superiority complex elsewhere

[dim pawn]

My intention doesnt mean i'm trying to put everyone down

Beside i was actually glad theres one here

i just thought it was funny at first glance, the actvity so far was just a latte art talk

It's not that serious

You've overreacting over me thinking it was latte art first channel at first glance

this could have gone differently if i respond again saying it was different from a longer scroll

frankly i didnt have much time at that time because i had something to do quickly

[thorny hare]

1. you're new
2. you walk into a new channel and the first thing you do is be dismissive
3. how is this contributing to the benefit of the channel? it does fuck all
4. when someone puts an ounce of effort to revive the channel every so often with a bit of latte art you dismissive it for "ah its just photos of latte art"??? bro are you serious
5. channel is small so images dominate server is about photography as well

throwing in a pepe smirk adds to your rudeness.

[dim pawn]

fine, i could have done it differently

[thorny hare]

you frankly justifying your behaviour adds nothing.

[dim pawn]

Beside i was at currently joking around in #💬・lounge and it got brought to here

[thorny hare]

piss off mate.....

your justification is not self-aware at all

[dim pawn]

You really overrreacting of myself joking

[thorny hare]

genuinely like, just stop

you're not humorous at all

[dim pawn]

humorous is preference, did you really mad because i send a pepe emoji?

you could just say "no, there's more than latte art" instead of instantly being pissed

[thorny hare]

you're the one who has been dismissive, walked into a channel with no context, and decided to formulate all your ideas with one scroll

[dim pawn]

but no you quickly decided to take your anger immedtiately

im not being dismissive

i just thought it was latte art channel in first glance

then i scrolled again, turns out there is some coffee talk

[thorny hare]

"turns out..." lol

[dim pawn]

beside PL in entire time never took anything seriously

[thorny hare]

superiority as fuck

[dim pawn]

you are assuming now

[thorny hare]

so you take the entire server as a pisstake?

[dim pawn]

yes, 50% of the time in #💬・lounge was messing around

and not the entire server

my context was in #💬・lounge

[thorny hare]

so the entire server revolves around the off topic lounge

[dim pawn]

context

[thorny hare]

good job mate 👏

[dim pawn]

read context mate

i'm mentioning purely off topic lounge

[thorny hare]

projecting now

[dim pawn]

coffee is off topic

sure

whatever you say

you just angry because i sent pepe emoji, assume i'm dismissing the form because of one sentence

when just a simple clarification would solve all the problem

[thorny hare]

shitting all over the channel right after joining it then acting im dramatic or pissed

[dim pawn]

clearly you are being dramatic

its just one sentence

i dont get it

[thorny hare]

i wouldnt be if you werent acting like a superior cunt

do you understand that logic?

[dim pawn]

how am i acting superior?

[thorny hare]

how dense are you

[dim pawn]

fine

okay im being cunt in the first message

[thorny hare]

good, thats all, enjoy your day.

[dim pawn]

You to

[lapis mantle]

Well that went to a place..

[rare acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tired-sleepy-coffee-coffee-cup-gif-1633875005663565880

[lapis mantle]

Admire the skill there.

[thorny hare]

Some might say swan

[rare acorn]

Australian special

[rare acorn]

ehhh, more like a turkey

[thorny hare]

Gok gok

[rare acorn]

what if we started a photography lounge cafe

everyone contributes $10 and eventually we'll have enough to buy a kettle and a v60

[lapis mantle]

Better yet: a cafe photography lounge, it's like street photography except you have a greater chance of getting a drink thrown at you.

[rare acorn]

thrifted a bass pro shop x black rifle coffee company mug

I am now part of the elite

[rare acorn]

made coffee

bag of red yunnan

been leaving it rotting for the last like 2 months but it still tastes great lol

a little faded in the acids but overall a coffee

[grizzled heath]

my wife has been learning to froth the milk and she's better at it than I am now

potential latte art incoming

[harsh lily]

oh hi

this is coconut milk

[harsh lily]

ouu

[grizzled heath]

this was a siphoned anaerobic coffee at the "ottoman coffeehouse" here which is PHENOMENAL

they do a bunch of specialty coffee and the clarity of this siphon brew was pretty unreal

[rare acorn]

didn't know hario made this

but hario makes about a billion things I don't know they make, so it's apt

[lapis mantle]

Anaerobic Coffee?

[grizzled heath]

there's an irony to the fact that I talk about how my "zen garden" every day is centering and a nice routine and makes me appreciate the complexity of simple coffee grounds, all these little grains tumbling, a tiny facet of chaotic systems showing me there's transcendence in the mundane

and then the substrate of this zen garden I rake and tend to, the sand itself, is a dried bean I will shortly be forcing water through at an unnatural pressure to maximise the amount of psychoactive stimulant drug I can extract from it

[grizzled heath]

it's a type of coffee fermentation! it produces some really lovely flavours. googling it says anaerobic processes tend to give fruity & wine-like flavours and that tracked with my experience

[harsh lily]

5 stack ez

[rare acorn]

https://devonlabs.space/hoopoecino-phuket/

strumbled upon this cafe on a random maps search the other day

amazing amazing mango cheesecake

at the shop I had an ethiopian blend Americano

and I bought some coffee back to make at home

I bought beans from a Thai region called Galayani, very bright and the right balance of acids, medium-light, blessed to be in a country that is capable of producing it's own coffee and amazing quality coffee at that

also having it with a side of runny scrambled eggs

[thorny hare]

mango cheesecake is special

ive never heard of that before

looks lovely

even the tables are funky

you're blessed to be in a country - for some reason - has plenty of different cafes available that we dont have

our cafes are just clones of each other

[rare acorn]

perks of being in the tropical, when fruit's in season you get real nice deserts

lightly folded eggs, spicy minced duck, aforementioned coffee beans

the coffee tastes so good

[thorny hare]

sounds delicious

duck 😋

[grizzled heath]

I'm really enjoying seeing your art improve Jordan

[thorny hare]

Thank you this means a lot

[harsh lily]

my ATTEMPT at a swan

[thorny hare]

Well done sir

Good swan

[harsh lily]

tyty

[vital stream]

Very good

I can’t even do this shit after almost 2 years

[rare acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_rId3PUpY

got me interested

[grizzled heath]

got a proper latte mug

[rare acorn]

this guy doesn't wet his pourover filter

disliked, unsubscribed, reported for nudity

[tender willow]

Any of y'all tried these

Btw they've been slapped in the fridge for the past couple months

[rare acorn]

now that's an origin I've never seen before

[harsh lily]

isnt it like

900 usd]

[rare acorn]

only?

pretty affordable

[harsh lily]

how much is it

[rare acorn]

no idea

$1499

[harsh lily]

kiss my ass

[rare acorn]

yeah if it were $900 I'd be skipping rope to buy it

at that price it's as cheap as chinese options

[harsh lily]

id rather get a lelit bianca

[rare acorn]

those aren't very cheap

bianca v3 sits at the $3k mark

[harsh lily]

meraki then

[rare acorn]

closer to the fellow's price, yeah

but might wait for the timemore machine

[harsh lily]

and the meraki has a built in grinder

[rare acorn]

timemore designs basically half of the latest meraki machine

they showcased the new machine they made at the expo in San Diego

[harsh lily]

hmmm

[rare acorn]

basically a half price meraki

[harsh lily]

i lowk just want an espresso machine that steams milk quickly

like the la marzoccos

[rare acorn]

not sure you find that in home machines in this range, if there's any at all that are dual boiler

[harsh lily]

well i say quickly

faster than a breville

im used to steaming milk to 160F in like 30 seconds

[rare acorn]

oh wait, the meraki's dual boiler

will have to see how much timemore wants for their new machine

honestly I'll just stick to my flair and lever, I much like the taste I get from handpressed and deep portafilters, and maybe get a separate milksteamer

[rare acorn]

@thorny hare hyd

I miss you

[rare acorn]

I bought an Ethiopian Sidamo Bombe G1 today

[thorny hare]

Sounds a bit crazy

[rare acorn]

made two cups with it, already down 20% of my bag

[rare acorn]

ehhh, just sounds crazy

tastes like about half the coffees from the region

that's not a diss towards ethiopia people just select those tastes for this kind of coffee I guess

[thorny hare]

I’m only existing in Sony and contest channel now because my efforts are wasted elsewhere

[rare acorn]

heartbreak

[thorny hare]

I couldn’t tell, I wish I have v60

You know I will get into it sometime

[rare acorn]

yeah when you have the $4 to invest

I'm telling you it's as simple as just throwing water into an oddly upside down cone shape

just grind a little coarser

I actually have no idea how people name the coffees

Durato Bombe is I guess a mix between Sidama and Bensa? the two bigger regions of that side of Ethiopia

not even sure what a single-origin even is anymore cause there's like a thousand farms on each mountain

coffee's nice tho, ฿200 for 200g, simple math

every 20g dose is 20b, which is 60cents

spend about 3 minutes grinding the coffee by hand, need to get me an espresso grinder

[thorny hare]

It’s not about the money it’s about how much more space it’ll hold up in an environment where I need the least amount of stuff

[thorny hare]

Ok ok ok

I will look back into it when I’m back from London

Going to London next week

[thorny hare]

Yeah you should

[rare acorn]

convincing the cafe next door to buy a decent single dose grinder

hopefully that'll happen before I quit this job

[thorny hare]

Single dose grinder hahahah

For a cafe??

Impressive if they buy one

Just for you

[rare acorn]

they've got an italian hopper and a dual head machine for everything else

single doser just for light roast coffees

[thorny hare]

I see

Dual head is the most popular here

We had a new cafe open up recently

[rare acorn]

and maybe get some fresher beans in that hopper so I can drink the coffee more

[thorny hare]

They’re using a dual head la marzocco

La Marzocco is probably the most popular here

[rare acorn]

don't doubt, also some of the most expensive

[thorny hare]

But tbh I’m more concerned about consistency

[rare acorn]

friend at work owns a cafe that hasn't been operational in a while, who knows, might be my next passion job

[thorny hare]

I went to their opening day, they gave everyone their first coffee entirely free

So I ordered their batch filter and a flat white

Both were amazing, but the owner was making the drinks

After a few days their employees started making them

And it just wasn’t as good

Beans over extracted and milk was almost burnt and too frothy

[rare acorn]

lots of time investment in making sure people know how to make coffee

[thorny hare]

Yeah, real big investment

[rare acorn]

lady at the cafe, she's got a weak tamp, you can taste it, it's frustrating

but unless you bring it up and keep supporting their efforts you'll never find a cafe you like

or, well, maybe you will, but maybe it'll cost a bit more, and be a bit further away

[thorny hare]

There’s this one cafe which is very popular purely for aesthetics and that they sometimes make good food, but their coffee is actually wank, and they usually have queues that go 10m outside the door. I dislike people who go to places purely for aesthetics.

And I bring this up because they use old beans

[rare acorn]

yeah, it sucks, but business is business

[thorny hare]

I went in one time to ask what beans they used, they shown me the giant bag, and it was like 6 months after roast date

And their consumer bags are 3 months after roast date

But the coffee roaster cafe I go to have fresh beans weekly lol

They sell out every week

[rare acorn]

I got to know a cool guy who operates a cafe, dollar coffee, amazing cup quality lattes for the price

no idea how you even make profit charging that little for coffee, milk alone is basically a dollar

[thorny hare]

This sounds fun, and tbh I’m at a stage where I could probably part-time photography and could look into a cafe job as well and that’ll just be me full time for a while and be comfortable in life.

[thorny hare]

Nah weak tamp is infuriating

[rare acorn]

integrity is big, lots of cafe owners I've ran into who'll be hermits in their cafes because quality's priority

but people who live for quality don't get to live for much else unfortunately

[rare acorn]

nothing stopping me from still doing photography

take photos of coffee all day, take photos of other cafes for them

[thorny hare]

There’s this cute coffee truck by a local park that loads of girls go get coffee because again, aesthetic n all, but the girl who makes the coffee in there doesn’t even tamp, she puts the tamper on top like a distribution tool like im genuinely pissed

[thorny hare]

Yeah milk is expensive and like the cups?

Does he do dollar coffee with takeaway cups?

Those cups themselves are like 1 dollar

[rare acorn]

it's more like, dollar fifty, but still, with takeaway

[thorny hare]

Yeah idk how he makes profit from that

[rare acorn]

cups are like 5-10cents

[thorny hare]

😭

[rare acorn]

but you can make it work

same guy, he trains his apprentice in objectivity

machine dialed the same way
grinder dialed the same way
the only thing that varies is the dosage

automatic tamper

it's a lot of math and coffee science but it works and here's there to quality control before he leaves if he needs to

great guy, big in the community, trains a lot of people

[thorny hare]

Yeah it’s poplar here now as well, cafe n food photography

[thorny hare]

Sounds like a good dude

[rare acorn]

yeah gotta go get more coffee

I don't get along well with cafes though, moneydrain, lots of coffees I still haven't tried despite having a few cafe hopping phases, so I spend a lot each time

spend more than I make

[rare acorn]

put it on a hook when you're not using it

filter holder mounted to a cabinet door

[thorny hare]

You don’t get along well because you spend a lot of money at them

[rare acorn]

like reverse robbery

[thorny hare]

Can I 3D print this?

I have a friend who can print for me

[rare acorn]

yeah

[thorny hare]

And then just use like double sided tape? Or like adhesives? Or magnets

[thorny hare]

You got a file or where do I get one?

[rare acorn]

https://www.yeggi.com/q/v60+paper+holder/

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/home/pour-over-coffee-filter-holder-wall-mounted-no-supports-needed

https://www.printables.com/model/144046-hario-v60-filters-holder-walldoor-mount

two kinds, thick and thin

I should print one

okay gtg to bed

[thorny hare]

well done

[harsh lily]

tyty

[thorny hare]

cool, thank you

[thorny hare]

your milk consistency is like elite tier

i cant get this good

at all

[harsh lily]

yeah because i use

[thorny hare]

whats that?

[harsh lily]

mastrena 2

starbucks machine

[thorny hare]

ah oke

[harsh lily]

it really depends on your boiler power

[thorny hare]

this says its like a super-automatic machine?

[harsh lily]

it auto grinds/tamps/brews espressos

[thorny hare]

you still have to put the beans in the portafilter tho right

[harsh lily]

and has an 'auto steam wand' which is literally just a temperature gauge built in that stops when it hits a temperature

[harsh lily]

no

it acts like it tho

[thorny hare]

so

starbucks employees basically only pour latte art?

they dont do any other barista necessities?

dialing in fresh beans, tamping, grinding etc?

[harsh lily]

no

but i know how to do all that anyway

its literally just getting milk consistency

personally wish i worked at black sheep but yk its whatever its good pay

[harsh lily]

because if your boiler isnt strong it wont provide consistent steaming strength

and also the steam wand itself can be why

[thorny hare]

black sheep here is wank

i hate it

we have like 2 stores in the city

[harsh lily]

i mean its all robusta

so

[thorny hare]

they just low quality piss

we have so much local-owned cafes here

id rather just go to them

[harsh lily]

something like this can generate good quality aeration

[harsh lily]

atleast they have victoria arduinos

[thorny hare]

i get plenty aeration, thats not the problem, just timing it for right consistency

and hand placement i guess

[harsh lily]

i see

[thorny hare]

i try do like 7-9 seconds atm

if i do 9 seconds, too much air at times

if i do 7, too little

[harsh lily]

i mean here

its good

[thorny hare]

i think its just the way im placing it really

[thorny hare]

yeah at times its good, but at times its wank

im still nailing the consistency

[harsh lily]

probably

[thorny hare]

but its fine

[harsh lily]

also might be depending on how you pour

and swirling milk before pouring

[thorny hare]

yeah always

and tapping it

[harsh lily]

youll get there

[rare acorn]

that's a kickass looking machine

[harsh lily]

apparently they cost around 20k

[rare acorn]

heard they're pretty expensive

[harsh lily]

yeah

idk about the 2 pros (which can pull 6 shots at a time)

as thats an american only thing and in a very limited region

[rare acorn]

not that much more expensive than a half decent la marzocco for most businesses, witnessed a Linea Mini shoot itself in the leg during service yesterday

and these things cost like, $6000

[thorny hare]

Most common here is the one with two group heads

[thorny hare]

Tiramisu and a coffee

[grizzled heath]

||not actually espresso lol it's kahlua and baileys||

[thorny hare]

Looks like Guinness

Oh bailies

Irish cream yippie

[grizzled heath]

yeah the actual drink name is a baby Guinness

[thorny hare]

Somewhere between a baby Guinnes-

Oh

[grizzled heath]

i am Guinness-pilling my wife soon she hasn't had one somehow

[thorny hare]

What’s kahlua?

We use coffee liqueur

Tia Maria usually

[grizzled heath]

it's a coffee liqueur

[thorny hare]

Ah okay

Yeah baby Guinness shots

Lovely jubly

Look like big shots though

Double shots?

Hehe

Getting drunk tonight

[grizzled heath]

idk I just used our actual espresso shot glasses cause they're the closest I've got to alcohol shot glasses

but I filled em pretty far up and they can hold a single shot cortado pretty easily

[thorny hare]

Big boy shots heheh

[grizzled heath]

here is the same glass with a cortado

[thorny hare]

oh wow

yeah its a big boi