Builds for Space Wizards

[hollow zodiac]

skill issue

[cobalt mauve]

what is goated tho is voidstrike staff

crusher bulwark and rager squads all killed at same time

[stable basalt]

reading the changes, is primary staff build dead?

[storm adder]

it's not dead, you can't clear levels with a macro anymore

[delicate patrol]

anyone have any inferno staff recomendations?

[craggy tide]

#psyker-class message

[inner marten]

Anyone got a decent havoc build that uses Inferno or Surge?

[spice dagger]

Yeah lots of people do

[craggy tide]

If you have multiple psykers, regular EK is what I've taken; but that is very uncommon.

Havoc inferno is basically regular inferno with bubble, ER, and BM if you can fit it.

Because mettle is acting extra wonky, I recommend taking soulstealer.

Something like this. Nodes to consider taking are BM and EE.

[pliant steeple]

what melee weapon for flamer psyker build (high havoc) gives you the most saftey and boss + crusher/rager dueling ability?

answer is just the DS, ya? followed by the knife probably? I want to use FGS but it feels like a mistake in high havoc with a purg staff, you need to be super safe in melee and fgs mobility sucks.

i guess deimos could be in the discussion

[storm adder]

obscurus buffs made it insane as well

even faster kills than deimos but much less stagger

[pliant steeple]

did they just buff it this last patch, i didnt read everything, i need to

[storm adder]

yes

[pliant steeple]

faster then deimos h2? what

[storm adder]

it has real combos now

yea

it's single target is insane post buffs

[pliant steeple]

how is it saftey-wise? like being pressed by horde, ragers

[storm adder]

worse than deimos in the stagger department

[pliant steeple]

but i have flame staff puffs

[storm adder]

otherwise it's the same

[pliant steeple]

which should stagger even ragers

[storm adder]

yea but deimos stagger knocks crushers on their ass

[pliant steeple]

my worry is getting pushed by red-mode stuff that i cant stagger

[storm adder]

obscurus stagger is much worse so you are basically banking on doing the combo correctly to kill things

[pliant steeple]

and i need to pull out melee to not get smacked, and how it does there

the thing with DS and knife, is im so good with their mobility it just helps so much lol

[storm adder]

i mean

forceswords

onehanded

have great dodges

they are well above average

[pliant steeple]

thats true they used to have infinite

i have forgotten

[storm adder]

i mean even without infinite

they have good distance and speed and recovery and count

[pliant steeple]

ya just made me blank they are good mobility weapons

[storm adder]

and you dump warp res

[pliant steeple]

is it a good choice on classic meta bubble havoc psyker?

i also play venting shriek psyker too

and whats the blessing/perk combo

[storm adder]

i'm asking mainchat

i've only seen it used, not used myself

but the clips i've seen for both damn and havoc have all been insane

[pliant steeple]

ok, and dump warp resistance not mobility?

even on bubble psyker with no vent?

[storm adder]

on swords?

yes

deimos and obscurus don't even use activation

[pliant steeple]

ya i dont on demios l1 h2 all day

but obscurus too? ok

[storm adder]

only illisi does for the cleave

[pliant steeple]

ya i see now, trying it

seems for horde clear you would H2, l1

[craggy tide]

For max safety and can do crusher and help with bosses is deimos.

Not sure how obscurus boss damage is.

Either would be good. Both can get deflector and have force PA. Deimos would be the safest because of the CC from the H2.

[pliant steeple]

ya this feels pretty nice, considering purg staff is so good for horde, it does have nice dueling properties

ya deimos seems maybe a bit better, bc of saftey

but this is a cool change of pace gonna try it

[craggy tide]

If combos are too finicky for you, avoid the obscurus tho.

[pliant steeple]

it seems ok

i like the h2, light combo for more aoe

and while im not getting quite the kill time on the heavy light light combo in the clip in main chat, it looks like he hits crits and double heavy also seems to 2 shot a crusher which is dope and kinda good enough

i like fgs alot but the dodges really fuck me

and im a bit tired of knife/ds

[plain apex]

play relic blade or powersword, and FGS dodges will feel like knife dodges

[pliant steeple]

ya lmao i play relic blade and hate its dodges too, im a lvl 500 zealot and played a lot of knife, so like mobility. Relic blade is super fun i do play it, but idk how people do well and clutch with relic blade or use it in high havocs, the dodges are rough

i use it in AM mostly

[plain apex]

yeah idk about high havocs, but in AM i only play martyrdom with relic blade. don't need to dodge if everything is dead

[wispy dune]

Are there any fairly up to date builds that utilize brain burst?

[craggy tide]

EP BB with inferno. The non-meta option. You can swap a +15 toughness node for solidity for better quelling. There ia also double wall instead of shriek to stack more KR.
#psyker-class message

[wispy dune]

Thank you 🙏

[hot oak]

Currently farming mastery for all weapons, on Psyker, Which variant of Infantry Lasgun with perks/blessings? The The Psyker Atheneum says it is outdated for a lot of weapons.

[plain apex]

none of them ilas isn't great on psyker

[spice stirrup]

thoughts on kinetic deflection for this build? its an ek build

im thinking taking it out, i find that i just forget that its there

gives me two points to spend elsewhere

i was particularly unsure about 6 warp charges
and thought about grabbing penetration of the soul (am curious about it) or battle meditation

maybe empathic evasion

naw not me realising i copied the build pinned

literally just copied this build

[craggy tide]

Psykers sharing a brain cell lmao. The only thing I'd say is swapping In Fire Reborn to Psychic Vampire.

6 warp charges can be helpful if you need more CDR, but a lot of the time you'll be shrieking before you have 6 WCs (warp charges) which renders the talents way too close to being useless.

[spice stirrup]

yes, this is exactly why i removed 6 warp charges

i initally had it there, and then i changed it to grab kinetic deflection

[craggy tide]

Gotcha. That's what I do too. Psyker orange cat moment. lmao

[spice stirrup]

Curious as to why I should swap

[craggy tide]

Better up time with Psychic Vampire for EK shriek. It's a toss up with fire trauma/ VB.

[spice stirrup]

Fair enough

That's what I assumed

[obsidian kestrel]

Combos are easy no ?

Single target : H1 L1 L2 L3
Horde clear : H1 L H1 L

[craggy tide]

While ture, the weapon lives by it's combos. Deimos has its optimized single target combo, but just spamming heavies into a crusher isn't too bad. Same with FGS light spam into a horde.

Some players have dexterity or memory issues. 🫡

[vale hound]

It's me I light spam big sword for horde clear.

🐰

[radiant acorn]

Thoughts on the build?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebb6bde-9d73-4638-a5b0-402ded9decf7/current-build-5?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[spice dagger]

You need more toughness generation. Quietude is a must pick on every build, and I'd probably pick up soulstealer too since your weapons don't utilise mettle well

You can drop ethereal shards. You don't really need it since you have warp splitting.

Endurance is another option to drop as its much worse than One With The Warp

I'd drop Ethereal Shards, the +15 toughness node and Endurance for Quietude, Soulstealer, and Quick Shards (highest priority first)

[modest turret]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9effb66b-4d8b-40f5-af4a-1b8800919939/spec-ops-psyker

[humble light]

hey does anyone have a good non-havoc build they can recommend. I like to focus more on trash clearance and the highest I tend to run in Auric Heresy

[craggy tide]

Check pins for staff builds.

[hallow kindle]

''Soulblaze requires too many inefficient talent detours for not enough payoff and the damage soulblaze does just isn't good enough against the targets you won't just be one-shotting anyway''
Soulblaze is not for kill is for toughness regen (soulstealer/souldrinker) and crowd control you are weakening enemies before they get close allowing you to 1 shot them.
-Shred blessing is good but you already have gaze for 20% critical chance, you should go for unstable power for more damage or shred + unstable power for more damage overall
-''By crack of bone'' its a not that good
-Warp speed is good but you are already using disrupt destiny keystone is redundant.
-Purloin providence is useless, is just a 5% and gaze will increase the peril up to 100% before you get a benefit of this.
-Smite on a gunpsyker is not bad but you should aim for damage and ammo economy, assail will give you 'free shots'' and BB will give you boss damage/ranged weapon for specialist.
-Kinetic deflection is not good option on a gun psyker because most of the time you will be on critical peril negating the effects of this talent.
-Despise my love for lasguns they are very bad for gunpsykers because supression, you will get stun and barely have the chance to shoot, you should go for recon or infantry AUG both automatic weraponsa have better damages overall on a gunpsyker.

[unkempt schooner]

hey guys im a returning player with a lot of currency i wanted to try out the greatsword with maybe the electric staff or any ranged weapon that you recommend

anyone got a template or something i can use

[modest turret]

With the soulblaze thing, the issue I have is that the damage soulblaze applies makes no difference to how many melee hits I need to do, a weakspot sword swipe will kill a poxer at 100% or 80% soulblaze or not, I also almost never get any of the soulblaze kill procs because the soulblaze just won't kill. If I was fire-staff psyker I'd agree about the soulblaze perks but putting the soulblaze skil on a sword I think is just not worth it.

Woops posted that early had more to say gimme a min

The stacking crit thing is a disagreement I had in Vet build discussions too but I think its worth it to raise crit chance as high as possible if you're wanting benefits from crits (in vet I was raising crit to trigger shock-trooper on average 80% of the time across a mission as well as other on-crit bonus effects). With shred stacked up and scriers active my crit % is averaging about 70-80% which means that Mettle & Empathic Evasion (what should be selected instead of Anticipation thats a woopsie on my part) is pretty much always active as long as I'm hitting people.

By Crack of Bone reduces peril generation by 25% for its duration and that also effects Scrier's Gaze's peril generation which means that even relatively minor peril reductions like Crack of Bone's peril reduction & purloin Providence can actually put in a lot of value over the duration of scrier's especially in the middle of a horde.
When you kill an enemy with the Destiny mark on them it'll instantly switch to another nearby valid target meaning that when you're dug into a cluster of basic non-poxers you're getting anywhere up to 20-40% peril off for just killing the guys, pretty consistently letting me rack up 20-30 Scrier's stacks.

The smite thing and the lasgun I agree and on my live version of this build I've switched to Assail (the smite pick was a hold-over from when I was trying to work in perks that worked with soulblaze) and I've swapped out the lasgun for the las-pistol 🙃
I just really like the las crit triggers ok.

Kinetic deflection, this isn't a pure gunkyr , the defelection is to combo with the sword's reflector trait, making you functionally immune to reapers & gunners as long as you can get the block up in time and because a decent amount of time is spent in melee, especially when popping scriers

Also for the Infantry Las I was using a mod which makes holding down mouse-1 make it continuously fire

The main reason I dropped it was because of its horrendous accuracy penatly whenever you get suppressed which seems wildly overkill

Warpspeed I just like going super fast and its shocking how useful it is to close distance or bounce from enemy to enemy when they're spread out when you have both scruers abd mettle active

I'll be editing and updating this when I'm more medicated and not edging perils irl lol

[hallow kindle]

My bad, i thought you were talking about the "soulblaze" aplied by the talent "Perilous combustion" not the blessing

[modest turret]

ye

[jolly blade]

bah, i really wish they hadn't changed scriers, it really boned my melee build 😐

[plain apex]

wdym, scrier's is totally broken right now

[jolly blade]

the speed that it ramped up peril gen was nice in melee combat with warp expenditure ( i know quietude is better, i used both) i could pop it running into melee and shit toughness due to the amount of incoming peril

[jolly blade]

in what way is it broken now?

havent played my pskyer much recently

[plain apex]

the entire right side of the tree was buffed for no fuckign reason besides fatshart is incompetent

and if you're running a melee build, you're prob running the right side of the tree

[jolly blade]

aye

i just feel flimsy in melee now, which might not actually be the case as im used to playing ogryn as well

[plain apex]

lol ogryn will absolutely warp your perspective of playing any of the other classes

because ogryn is even more broken than psyker rn

[jolly blade]

aye

ive been playing other classes more recently, trauma is fine, and zealot is zealot, vet is about how i remember it

[vale hound]

If you want super tanky with gaze pick crack and bone and quietude

[jolly blade]

I had both lol.

I think it was a perception thing. I was playing earlier and aside from a few crusher bonks I was fine.

[vale hound]

Dont eat overhead is not good for you

[upper trellis]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f002bd7-5d72-414a-a350-ee45c81a96ff/scriers-gaze-gun-psyker-build-by-micolash710 what do we think of this build ? Anything to change to play it into high havoc ? Played psyker to death but only with staffs never gun psyker so any improvements would be good 🙂

[foggy comet]

Hello I am trying to make a DPS surge staff build. thoughts on this Ive tried disrupt destiny scriers with surge but it was to hard to keep that stacks up

thoughts and how would improve on this

[velvet summit]

any suggestions for assail/gaze builds

preferably with greatsword and trauma staff

[merry quest]

Is bubble a must take for high havoc

[cloud parcel]

Yes.

Psyker explodes without it.

[eager patio]

my build is quite old for my psyker and i'm not feeling it that much
any newer better builds?

[plain apex]

pins in #psyker-class got builds

[eager patio]

are they post arbiter update?

[plain apex]

they're still up to date

[wary vector]

Is there a good melee build with the Voidstrike staff?

[wary vector]

I know it's probably completely redundant when I also have Assail, but the Voidstrike staff is very cool.

[spice dagger]

just run your average right side psyker build, the damage & finesse bonuses from DD are important for voidstrike

[wary vector]

[wary vector]

I stole a melee psyker build and just swapped out the weapon for what I thought would be cool.

I think it would be better if I used a revolver instead of the staff so that I have a ranged option that doesn't give me extra peril, but it'll be fine.

[wary vector]

The combination of higher crit chance at higher peril and double shots on crit makes the voidstrike very very beautiful.

[wary vector]

I stole this build from a YouTuber that stole this build from another YouTuber.

I have two more points to spend.

The original build has Kinetic Deflection, Perilous Combustion, Mettle, and Charge Up. It does not have Anticipation or Quietude.

The way I play this is to constantly drive Peril as high as it will go without blowing my mind.

My Force Greatsword does more damage at high peril. My Voidstrike staff has a higher crit chance at high peril and double-blasts on crit.

I am not going to get much in the way of Soulblaze because it doesn't really fit with the build theme.

I was considering Immaterial Focus, Mind in Motion, Warp Speed, or Psychic Leeching.

I can also get a ranged damage boost.

[wary vector]

I prefer dodging and Quietude is insane on this build.

Popping Scrier's Gaze instantly gives me 20% toughness and then gives me even more toughness as a part of the ability and because it builds up Peril.

Being able to quell more easily (Mind in Motion) might be nice so I can stay more mobile while basically healing my toughness for free.

Immaterial Focus would make me stun immune while at max Peril, which I generally am when I am fighting bosses either way.

[wary vector]

Psychic Leeching doesn't sound great, but it's basically free toughness whenever I'm throwing darts at elites. It could be nice for teamplay, but I somewhat doubt it.

[inland tiger]

What is a good assail/melee build?

(If it can be tailored to early game that would be nice {I am lvl 30})

[spice dagger]

You should always take three stacks of empowered psionics

[wary vector]

What I sent above is fun and effective (in my opinion), but I am unsure if it is super optimal.