#40k-book-club

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paper maple
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Are you reading on the app?

forest spruce
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No I'm using audible

paper maple
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Man the app is literally 9/11 for Warhammer epubs i swear

final adder
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Orks when their skull gets crushed but it only damages their brain

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Got the first one they gave out today!

severe trail
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that cover looks so cursed without the other priests lol

tall phoenix
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Dont you like her hair?

odd skiff
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Descent of Angels is still one of the greatest Warhammer books of all time.

final adder
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Picking this one up for my bf

tall phoenix
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very based

wicked tree
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The recent space shark books have been a treat, solid pick

drowsy stone
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Kinda funny how angron is a side note even in his own book

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It's even called BETRAYER

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As in

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KHARN THE BETRAYER

cerulean peak
fickle temple
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The hate game is

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Insane in Infiniti and divine

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KILL HIM KILL HIM. ALL OF YOU KILL HIM

tall phoenix
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Prime Hater vs Prime Hater

fickle temple
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Trazyn is a hoarder

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I feel like both of them in some matter

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Definitely going to be a topic with my therapist today...

tall phoenix
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Trazyn is 100% a kleptomaniac yea

daring pumice
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Warhammer got good

odd skiff
plain gust
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false gods does not hook me like horus rising did

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horus rising is truly something on its own level

odd skiff
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Erebus sets his plan in full play. The chaos gods begin to surface, we see lokens decline and we get to see the beginnings of the dropsite massacre plan.

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You also get to see Horus begin to buckle under all the new high lords plans, bureaucracy and the wedge between the Primarchs and the emperor.

drowsy stone
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"But sire, you dont.. drink wine.."

plain gust
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the change in personalities from both Horus and Abaddon is cool tho, the way how both are quick to anger, they both act the same
yet Abaddon refuses to be called an equal to Horus

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god, its cool

drowsy stone
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I think abbadon was an asshole from start to finish

plain gust
tall phoenix
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tbh hes a literal human supremacist dickhead

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idk what people expected him to be lamao

odd skiff
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I liked them all didn’t care for Abbadon but HATED Abbadon and little Horus by the end.

drowsy stone
tall phoenix
drowsy stone
odd skiff
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I will never forgive them for what they do to my king torgadden

tall phoenix
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Tor Gyatton?

drowsy stone
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Lucius is just a prideful dick but even that's kinda understandable

tall phoenix
odd skiff
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Lucius is hilarious

tall phoenix
odd skiff
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He’s hilarious in crimson king too

drowsy stone
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Talking of lucius did he reborn from the raven guard that killed him in angel exterminatus or is the big eternal plan still in the makings?

tall phoenix
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He doesnt because reasons

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its just a plothole more or less that they dont really expand on lol

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the entire series is a mess

drowsy stone
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Dang

tall phoenix
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its one of the weirdest parts of the book lol

plain gust
tall phoenix
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"But he was SOOO chill"

Literal mass-murderer

drowsy stone
odd skiff
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This is just the beginning

drowsy stone
odd skiff
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Wait till you see what they do to torgaddon

plain gust
plain gust
drowsy stone
odd skiff
drowsy stone
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Like super early

odd skiff
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No

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Super late

drowsy stone
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No but istvan 3 is super early in the heresy

odd skiff
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He dies just as the final bombs drop

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Oh yeah yeah

tall phoenix
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even when HH tries its best to make Loyalists look good lol

odd skiff
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But the actual battle he lasts until the very end

severe trail
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The HH novels are too sympathetic to the imperium lol

odd skiff
drowsy stone
odd skiff
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Every book from one sides pov is always going to make them look better

tall phoenix
tall phoenix
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LOYALVENGERS....................

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ASSEMBLE.........................

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🗣️

drowsy stone
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I cant wait for pandemonium to finally release

odd skiff
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@plain gust I remember you like Nightlords so I recommend reading the thramas crusade books. It is just full DA vs NL peakness

drowsy stone
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I know who the king in yellow is

tall phoenix
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I like how people still spoiler that too

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"OMG THE KING IN YELLOW IS- among_us_kill "

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bro everyone knows its Valdor lol

odd skiff
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No it’s Dorn

drowsy stone
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I reckon not everyone read that far in the eisenhorn shenanigans

odd skiff
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He is literally yellow marine dad

tall phoenix
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unless the person lives under a rock

frigid osprey
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ive not even read ravenor

drowsy stone
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Never heard of him

light dock
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btw, gimme some books

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i want to learn more!

fickle temple
odd skiff
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The prince of crows

fickle temple
odd skiff
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Night Haunter

cerulean peak
frigid osprey
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very based

drowsy stone
fickle temple
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Didn't seem that way to me

drowsy stone
fickle temple
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Seemed quite confident in himeelf like the rest of the mournival

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And the mournival was also a political tool for horus

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So the asshole-ry was in part from horus

drowsy stone
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I guess he starts out milder but I think he was the sourest of the mournival easily from the start

tall phoenix
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he uh

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he could not mourn-it-all

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🔥

fickle temple
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Bruh

plain gust
tall phoenix
drowsy stone
tall phoenix
plain gust
drowsy stone
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Ok I admit decent pun

tall phoenix
light dock
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hmm

fickle temple
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Probably missed it

fickle temple
plain gust
fickle temple
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It was cute :(

fickle temple
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Be nice to little horus

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Hes doing his best

light dock
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I need to read horus rising

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@plain gust gimme

fickle temple
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Its a neat read

plain gust
drowsy stone
fickle temple
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The glaze marines annoyed me personally but the battles should entertain you

drowsy stone
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How many times does he repeat the phrase "the end and the death" in the final three

tall phoenix
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als odont forget

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"FOOL you think this is Terra? Its TERROR!"

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(i was gonna kill myself reading that)

drowsy stone
cerulean peak
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like a black legion

tall phoenix
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Say it in full

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"They marched like a legion, a black legion"

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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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DO YOU GET IT

drowsy stone
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Lmaooooooo

cerulean peak
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💀

tall phoenix
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god

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you legit wanna stand up and be like

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"shut the fuck up"

fickle temple
drowsy stone
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Genius stuff

fickle temple
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Ya know what that reminds me

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"If you're Mr Hyde, then I'm mr seek."

drowsy stone
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I watched like 1 episode of this timothee oliphant cop show where he shoots people and then he says the title of the show ina line like "it was.. justified"

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Could not finish the first episode

tall phoenix
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also reminder that we also ahve the legendary line of

"This isn't Horus' treachery, IT IS HIS HERESY."

fickle temple
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What the fuck

drowsy stone
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This is horus shenanigans

tall phoenix
tall phoenix
fickle temple
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Awful

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"This is...horus rising..."

light dock
drowsy stone
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Then I like how some of the audiobook narrators clearly exaggarate when the title of the book is mentioned

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Like in angel exterminatus he takes a weird pause before he says "angel.. exterminatus"

fickle temple
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It's almost like not only it breaks the flow but also gives the VA brain damage

drowsy stone
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For the 70000th time

fickle temple
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Is that in false gods

cerulean peak
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"In the far future, there will be only war" (i think it was sigismund)

tall phoenix
# fickle temple "This is...horus rising..."
"Indeed, Brother." Said Dorn, his voice low with the knowledge that his undying feud with his other brothers was now far darker than he had ever anticipated. They had gone beyond childish rivalry into a hatred so deep it darkened his soul.

"At first, there was Horus Rising. But he was tempted by False Gods, and put the Galaxy in Flames. Not even The Flight of the Eisenstein could warn is in time. Fulgrim led the Descent of Angels, and doomed his Legion, while we fought the Battle for the Abyss. The Mechanicum even turned upon us, and so there were Fallen Angels, and not even A Thousand Sons could stop them. Their Nemesis made sure of that when Prospero Burns, while The First Heretic Led us to an Age of Darkness among only The Outcast Dead, our Deliverance Lost. We would Know No Fear, but Fear to Tread admid the Shadows of Treachery and the Angel Exterminatus, fearful of our Betrayer. Even though Vulkan Lives, the Mark of Calth left its Scars, and the Vengeful Spirit of the Unremembered Empire lives on amid the Damnation of Pythos. The Legacies of Betrayal has only been Deathfire and War Without End, even in the Eye of Terra. Our Path of Heaven has been put off course by The Silent War, fought by the Angels of Caliban, the Praetorian of Dorn, as Corax, the Master of Mankind, and Garro have fought with them and the Shattered Legions. Old Earth will lie forever lost by the Ruinstorm of the Crimson King, and the Burden of Loyalty shall feel forever heavier. The Slaves to Darkness, Born of Flame, would be the Heralds of the Siege, as even the mightiest warmachines crumble in their Titandeath, from wounds inflicted by a Buried Dagger."

"The Solar War," he continued, "will be remembered for the Lost and Damned amongst it. The First Wall manned by the Sons of the Selenar, Saturnine and the Fury of Magnus, and the God-Machines Mortis flying like a Warhawk as we prepare for the Echeos of Eternity as we face the End and the Death followed by an Era of Ruin and the Ashes of the Imperium."

Roboute nodded solemnly.
drowsy stone
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Final 3 end and the death parts 1-3

fickle temple
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WHAT THE FUCK

tall phoenix
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Get to reading

tall phoenix
fickle temple
cerulean peak
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Have we said the imperial fist one yet?

fickle temple
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I read it

fickle temple
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Fucking combo breaker

tall phoenix
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Took me like 10m to write this

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i hope you guys are fucking happy

drowsy stone
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You did a great job

fickle temple
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Unfortunately you did. Very well.

tall phoenix
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🫡

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ty ty

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my sanity is long gone

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only a resident evil remains...

fickle temple
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Dilara is abnett

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Exposed

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I believed that was real btw

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You convinced me

tall phoenix
cerulean peak
fickle temple
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You are channeling his SPIRIT

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In the soil.

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his Imperial Fist

odd skiff
fickle temple
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Murdering men women and children in the name of the blo- God Emperor.

odd skiff
fickle temple
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Do sms cover themselves in baby powder before adorning their armor

odd skiff
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I mean they use performance enhancing suit oils

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Dang missus you know what

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I’m getting really sick and tired of coming downstairs on Christmas and not finding lion El’Jonson oiled up in a bow under my tree😖

quaint canopy
tall phoenix
quaint canopy
tall phoenix
daring pumice
plush kindle
fickle scroll
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Valid

sonic walrus
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Lies. That's only 43 books. It still isn't any better if you finish all of them though.

plain gust
sonic walrus
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It's a post from 2025, the last book was released in 2024. Not counting the anthology follow-up leading into the scouring

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So it's lies.

tall phoenix
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All trash.

sonic walrus
final adder
# daring pumice

I’m so sad I missed out on grabbing a copy of this book’s edition. I went to the black library celebration at my local warhammer store this past Saturday, but I didn’t notice the new releases shelves where they had two copies of this book. But by the time I noticed, they had already been taken

frigid osprey
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7 months is pretty fuckin impressive going for the whole Heresy

tall phoenix
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It takes a year at best

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idk what kind of number that is lol

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you'd literally need to finish a book a day

plush kindle
tall phoenix
plush kindle
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Maybe I simply read fast

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And I'm also unemployed but thats beside the point

tall phoenix
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Also the entire Heresy is 68 books in total

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so lmao

odd skiff
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HH is peak

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PEAK

plain gust
odd skiff
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Some

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Fulgrim was a fucking slog

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Absolutely boring

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The only good parts of fulgrim were ironically the Ferrus parts and then the dropsite massacre

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Like yeah there’s a gay murder-sex orgy in la fenice but like by the time you reach that point you’ve fell asleep because the lead up is so boring.

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And Fulgrims fall is so stupid like ohhh evil sword corrupted me I can’t put evil sword down ohhh it’s so silly.

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Just throw the evil talking sword away Jesus

plain gust
odd skiff
tall phoenix
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^

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Hes not kidding, its lame af

plain gust
odd skiff
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Like

tall phoenix
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You should sitll read it tho its a fun book

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its one of my first 30k novels

odd skiff
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The might like it

tall phoenix
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tho people overhype the ending extremely

odd skiff
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I just thought it was boring and the action was extremely far and few between

tall phoenix
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Yeah i didnt mind it too much but its definitely not an amazing book lol

odd skiff
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Big battle yay, 3 hours of talking, big orgy yay, 4 hours of talking, istvaan 5. End.

frigid osprey
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i read fulgrim after reading the fabius bile books and the difference was stark

cerulean peak
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Book is overhyped but fine/10

odd skiff
fickle temple
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Also

odd skiff
fickle temple
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Im really happy I picked up the Necrons book. I thought it was going to be real boring but I really like how Trazyn establishes the theme of Entombment and preservation.

I feel Orikan is going to symbolize the Necrons technogical advancement

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Due to his utter disrespect of relics lmao

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And focus on the future

tall phoenix
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to be fair its like universally praised

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one of the most famous 40k books i think

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it got re-released like 3 times

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NOW its getting a fucking illustrated edition, its insane, no xenos book ever got this treatment lol

fickle temple
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Oh shit.

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Hell. Yeah.

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What I want most are visuals because I am starving for Necron animation

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The unfortunate part is

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Its gonna be a minute before its downloadable

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:(

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And prolly expensive...

tall phoenix
fickle temple
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I'll read kingmaker after this probably

tall phoenix
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also the illustrations are like 6 or so in total and are really spread out across the book lol

tall phoenix
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really fun, nothing depressing, tons of black comedy

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also has an actual happy ending which is funny

fickle temple
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Yeah actual comedy is what I want most

plain gust
tall phoenix
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Yeah dont worry theres ton of it lol

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the book literally has a bit where the Vindicare assasin is trying to explain what their mission is and briefing his team

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and the Callidus is like

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raises hand

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"Why is a loser like you leading this mission"

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🥀

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FAHHHH

fickle temple
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BRO

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That's so mean..

tall phoenix
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Shes so mean to him 😩

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YEAH

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its so funny

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but dont worry yeah the book doesnt have anything depressing, its basically a fun action adventure, tons of likable characters

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just be sure to read a bit of knight lore on the lexi beforehand so you arent confused

fickle temple
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Gotcha

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Im already used to looking up things as I read

tall phoenix
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Yeah Kingmaker has tons of Knight stuff

light dock
plain gust
light dock
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now

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dm me!

drowsy stone
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I wasnt expecting Big G in betrayer

tacit void
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I mean they are trashing his realm

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And Calth just happened

drowsy stone
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Did I have a fever dream or is there a book where erebus goes around wrapping up loose plotlines after horus heresy

tacit void
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TEATD 3 and Fulgurite

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He does them in both

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And I guess technically Warhawk

daring pumice
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@tall phoenix ||Playing it out that a loyalist on a Tau world sabotaging the railgun ammo 40 years ago looked like the work of the psyker was absolute cinema||

tacit void
tall phoenix
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probably one of my favorite chapters of the book lol

daring pumice
tall phoenix
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Man

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the end made me feel tired by the end of it

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just lying in the mud lol

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"I think im gonna... rest for a bit."

daring pumice
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||If Katarin didn't gaslight him, it's pretty ironic Valian ended up killing more people than her for the goal lol||

tall phoenix
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||Yeah she outright says as much which is great lmao||

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Hesh might be the best depiction of a commissar ive seen, id legit place him above Cain and Gaunt

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who are more romanticized versions that barely kill anyone which is impossible as a commissar

daring pumice
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Gaunt tbh also had the polar opposite role of being a regimental commander at the same time, Cain is just a walking meme

tall phoenix
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Yeah agreed, Hesh i think says it best during the Tau mass assault

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he has to kill dozens/hundreds to save thousands

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while Kat outright says none of it matters, "do you know how many people die making a lasgun chargepack?"

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Shes that ultimate Stalin "statistics" mindset

daring pumice
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And Jens at the end ||just formulates a KIA report in her head and walks away lol||

tall phoenix
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YEP

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After all of that

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she really is just a piece of shit like most Kriegers lol

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this man treated her like a human being and in the end it all meant nothing

daring pumice
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Colonel Bronner seemed more down to earth than her despite being surrounded by kriegers all time

tall phoenix
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Ikr, but i do appreciate how this book basically established for me what Krieg are; just meat robots.

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They are simply not human in any way, theres nothing inside them.

daring pumice
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Lance ||just gets vibe checked by armsmen for breathing wrong lmao||

tall phoenix
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LMFAO MAN that shit made me sad

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literally zombie movie trope of "ITS THE MILITARY THEY ARE HERE TO RESCUE US!"

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😭

daring pumice
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But yeah, if anything, the author would be better off writing Inquisition or other self-contained plots in the future, his framing for big battles is confusing and sloppy tbh

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Anything outside that was 10/10

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I can get the idea of how it might have played in his head but it kinda gets lost for a reader with just the words to see

tall phoenix
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Agreed the huge battles were the only parts I skimread, everything else is pure kino

shy lark
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It's nothing I minded but it wasn't memorable to me except John Cadia

tall phoenix
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LOL

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he was my favorite character

daring pumice
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"Yeah there's Glup, Shitto, Bobius and... the Cadian."

north remnant
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Guys, omnibus is the full Dan abnett collection right?

daring pumice
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Which omnibus

north remnant
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But in a single book

north remnant
daring pumice
north remnant
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PHEW

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It has everything

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I was a bit scared I read wrong

snow siren
# daring pumice

I do enjoy Backclotj for a Crown Additional

Can’t remember the Keeler Image though

hybrid turtle
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its where he goes to an auction for a painting of pre-heresy horus iirc

drowsy urchin
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And unsure if all the short stories included in The Magos are included in this one

north remnant
drowsy urchin
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Ravenor is a direct continuation (and better)

north remnant
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FAAHHH

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eh whatever

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big 3 is what i wanted

drowsy urchin
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There's no omnibus that includes them all though

north remnant
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and being all in one book certainly helps

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wait is there an omnibus for the millitarum? i wanted to get 15 hours after but i belive its in one single book too

drowsy urchin
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you've got a Eisenhorn omnibus and a Ravenor omnibus but no Inquisition Saga omnibus afaik

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later there will be a Bequin omnibus for sure, after the last one gets released

daring pumice
north remnant
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i see

drowsy urchin
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anyways, here's the Inquisition saga timeline

075 (M41) – ‘Pestilence

198 – Gregor Eisenhorn born, DeKere’s World.

Circa 219 – Endor and Eisenhorn serve as interrogators under Inquisitor Hapshant.‘Master Imus’ Transgression

222 – Eisenhorn appointed full inquisitor.

223 – ‘Regia Occulta

240 – Xenos

241 – ‘Missing in Action

304 – Gideon Ravenor born.

312 – ||Midas Betancore dies. His daughter Medea is an infant.||

Circa 345 – Malleus – ||Ravenor crippled||.

346 – Ravenor appointed full inquisitor.

355 – ‘Backcloth For A Crown Additional

Circa 360 – ‘The Strange Demise of Titus Endor

386 – Hereticus

402 – Ravenor – ‘Thorn Wishes Talon

Circa 403 – Ravenor Returned – Valentin Drusher born.

404 – Ravenor Rogue

441 – Magos Drusher arrives on Gershom to begin taxonomy.

448 – ‘The Curiosity

450 – ||Medea Betancore disappears||.

455 – ‘Gardens of Tycho

461 – Alizebeth Bequin’s ||stasis-suspended body reported missing||.

Circa 465 – ‘The Keeler Image

Circa 470 – ‘Perihelion

Circa 475 – The Magos

477 – Beta Bequin|| “born”,|| Sancour, Angelus Subsector.

Circa 480 – Eisenhorn arrives on Sancour. Medea begins watching Beta.

Circa 495 – Ravenor arrives on Sancour Circa

500 – Pariah

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I bolded mainline novels and put italics on short stories, hid some spoilers

north remnant
daring pumice
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There was an omnibus in 2019 but it's OOP, 15 hours also had an anniversary edition last year, fat chances to find it physical

frigid osprey
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Backcloth for a Crown Additional 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

hazy veldt
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So audible is having a sit wide sale which means like 3 dollar audio books im intending on buying the full hearsy collection any others I should pick up ( I finished gaunts ghost and the fall of cadia )

drowsy urchin
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Twice Dead King 1&2

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NL trilogy

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Gotrek & Felix saga

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Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Bequin

odd skiff
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The lion (if you want to see Nemiels death)

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Infact anything Dark Angel or Nightlord is peak so get all of them

drowsy urchin
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Well a couple Dark Angels related books are peak, most are alright

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Son of the Forest is the best of them because it finally does something interesting with the Fallen

odd skiff
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Nah

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They are all peak

odd skiff
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Repentant fallen and those who were misled has already been told in previous stories

drowsy urchin
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it's not just that but it also does it well

odd skiff
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The only difference is this time, Lion forgives them so there’s no consequences.

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I did like how they portrayed him basically having to plead his case that he didn’t fire at Luther first and the meeting with the first four risen basically has him at their mercy and if they believe he is a loyalist and Luther was a traitor.

drowsy urchin
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The difference is that now it's not some few random fallen that might feel bad about what they did, but rather it's about Lion seeking for his wayward sons not in hatred and revenge but in redemption. The old way of just seeking out the fallen just for the sake of finding and killing them because muh secrets lessened the Dark Angels as a whole

odd skiff
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I mean it’s a bit more than secrets

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They hide it because of the shame that any one of the legion could betray the lion and emperor, That it was their own legion that burned their home, that it was their legion that killed the lion. They also take testimony to learn fully what happened.

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This shame is also on both sides because if it wasn’t the fallen would have made themselves known and not do everything to hide their identities even when they don’t need to.

odd skiff
shy lark
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Get every Warhammer Crime and Warhammer Horror you can
Then get Valedor, Death Rider, and Twice Dead King Ruin

tacit void
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But get Lords of Silence along the way

shy lark
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and lords of silence

tall phoenix
tacit void
daring pumice
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Don't ever touch the Salamanders HH books

hazy veldt
hazy veldt
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Unironically ill listen to about 5 or 6 books a month i listened to the entirety of ganuts ghost over tbe corse of 2 months

tall phoenix
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tbh the entire Heresy is extremely disjointed and filler so its your decision but just be aware most of these books have nothing to do with each other and are pretty mid

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so imo its a huge waste of money in comparison to reading actual essential books

cerulean peak
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Just check Ian's review of the Heresy in less than 20 mins and choose between the books rated 3.5 stars and above

deft bramble
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never read

tall phoenix
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This is probably the most "normal" and actually critical/unbiased review you'd get of the entire seires.

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especially without a guy going "OMGGG MARINES LOOK OMG THIS BOOK WAS AWESOME I CLAPPED WHEN THEY SHOT THE BOLTERS"

shy lark
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i clapped until my hands bled after reading big marine crying because he got 9/10ths of a planet killed

tall phoenix
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Yeah also the loyalist propaganda gets really boring.

hazy veldt
tall phoenix
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see all the Salamander books

hazy veldt
cerulean peak
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Most of the time it's the big world ending plot that ends in a wooops it was all for nothing back to the status quo and horus is slowly going towards terra

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Ultimately 90% of the books don't matter

tall phoenix
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^
only like 15 out of 68 of them matter yeah

hazy veldt
cerulean peak
#

Special shout out to battle for the abyss and nemesis

hazy veldt
#

I work on a laser cutter my job is babysitting a suicidal 5 year old that machene wants to kill itself and im there to make sure it dosent have the chance too

tall phoenix
#

average hiver job

plush kindle
#

Shoutout to the movie Elysium that has a machine that shoots radiation that will tell you when its detected a human inside but doesnt automatically stop. It just sorta lets you know its killing someone

hazy veldt
# tall phoenix average hiver job

Nah tech adept that thing would def have a temper metal machene spirit and I gotta fix it or figure out why it has suddenly quit on me and Honestly I feel like I dint even know how I fix it 25% of the time

#

Praise be the ommnisiah

daring pumice
cerulean peak
#

Why are cadians so self righteous when they pushed Lorgar to chaos?

plain gust
#

better question

odd skiff
tall phoenix
odd skiff
odd skiff
#

We have exterminatus’d before and we will exterminatus again

daring pumice
#

Imagine being fallen

#

just get up bruh

molten temple
#

I’ve been going through the Vaults of Terra omnibus, definitely recommend. I’m on the second book atm

odd skiff
deft bramble
#

you cant even get up

odd skiff
#

But we get down

frigid osprey
fringe thorn
tall phoenix
#

Peak on the left and peak on the right, bro is surrounded

#

🗣️ 🔥

severe trail
#

Finished chem dog

#

Good book

#

2 for 2 on guard books this year already

#

One tiny complaint about the ending but w/e

frigid osprey
#

sick im gonna get chem dog then

#

feel like reading a guard novel too

tall phoenix
severe trail
tall phoenix
#

AH fair, also tbh prob is

#

its like how the Short was literally a setup/sequel bait for this entire novel

severe trail
#

yeah

sonic walrus
north remnant
#

Hi lore chat

#

Wrong place

#

Eh whatever

wise yew
#

imperial fist

#

there we go lore chat joke so you feel better

fringe thorn
#

I saw a reddit comment mentioned there is a related short story for the Chem Dog novel. Anyone know the name of it? I forgot

daring pumice
#

It's the prequel to the novel

fringe thorn
#

Thanks. I want to read that short story before the Chem Dog novel

daring pumice
#

Any of y'all read this guy's short stories?

daring pumice
tall phoenix
#

"the white horror"

#

😭

#

Also damn hats a lot of Shorts, are these new or recycled?

daring pumice
#

new

#

And Vets of the Fall is like 6 short stories and a new novella from Crowe

#

all covering the same kasrkin squad, I think

tall phoenix
#

Cadians

#

tragic

paper rivet
#

Cadians.
Yey. [:

shy lark
#

peak is arriving

daring pumice
drowsy urchin
#

Ghost Legion getting an audio release on the 17th jermaDance

plush kindle
smoky bronze
#

the book called rok crackers should just be the movie deep impact

#

have a character who looks like bruce willis deliver an atomic to the rok on a dangerous mission

wide mica
#

Only if it also stars Liv Tyler

woven chasm
#

Last day for the sitewide audible sale you filthy animals Servoskull

cloud dove
#

are there any books about ephrael stern?

mental cobalt
#

Are the cawl books good

shy lark
tall phoenix
#

id recommend all 3

#

lexi should have the reading order as well iirc

wide mica
#

Think her stuff is mostly in comics

cloud dove
#

like by the ecclesiarchy

tall phoenix
#

Not really no

#

her name is literally the Heretic Saint

#

lol

#

most of her own Order doesnt even trust her

cloud dove
#

i only knew the thrice born ^^

#

hence me asking

mental cobalt
tall phoenix
mental cobalt
fickle temple
#

||Is there a shortened name for The Infinite and The Divine ||
||It took me rereading a page or two to realize Orikan was repeating time 💀||

#

I was told this book is worth rereading, it definitely is

#

||Orikan is. such. a sly. cunt. ||

tall phoenix
#

"Wait a fucking minute. ARE YOU REWINDING TIME?"
"Uh no?"

fickle temple
#

fucking, literally.

tall phoenix
fickle temple
#

|| "The Ammunos Dynasty", Trazyn paused to let the message sink in, "Will not come to claim it" ||

#

like 3 times over

tall phoenix
#

its so funny

#

especially when you the reader and Trazyn are on the end of the time travel trick

fickle temple
#

Did Orikan like. hex Trayzn?

#

The tile seemed to get hotter with each loop

severe trail
#

No

#

It’s a side effect of the tech crypteks use

valid jay
#

Anyone got any good Tau book recommendations? I'm painting my pathfinders Kill team and I always like to listen to a book from the faction I'm painting to get me in the mindset

tall phoenix
#

Elemental Council 10000%

#

one of the only tau-related fandom wide universally praised novels lol

#

which is a rarity

valid jay
#

Damn that's a long ass book

#

17 hours

tall phoenix
#

Hell yeah chadgryn

fickle temple
#

Yeah uh

#

i think it was around 500 pages?

valid jay
#

Alright it's in the queue, let me see what other kill teams I have to paint and if you guys have any other recommendations

#

Chaos cult, goremongers and tempestus aquilons are the only faction I don't have books for

woven chasm
daring pumice
potent warren
smoky bronze
#

i still need to read the good tau books

#

i feel like they should be a heinously bad matchup for the IG but maybe thats why they keep winning the Damocles gulf wars

#

enemy has guns with twice the effective range, computer assisted targetting
the same goes for armor and artillery

tall phoenix
#

The Tau would realistically win most engagements against the Imperium just from a tech standpoint.

#

They simply dont because plot

smoky bronze
#

i guess numbers is all the imperial guard usually has anyway lol

tall phoenix
#

Its not really that

#

like... the tau would just bombard them back, but they also just dont lol

smoky bronze
#

but yeah from the tech its like a musket line trying to engage assault rifles

tall phoenix
#

numbers dont mean anything when the enemy is outright annihilating you

#

which we DO see in shit like Taros where the tau destroy supply lines through guerilla tactics against a gigantic imperium force

#

and uhhh the guardsman literally just get shattered from starvation and morale drop lol

smoky bronze
#

if they actually wrote the tau some computer guided artillery i feel like it would destroy the setting lol

#

driving around in leviathan
hypersonic round silently comes over the horizon and cores the whole thing
delayed boom

tall phoenix
#

Correct lmao, i think the biggest wakeup call for how nerfed tau are was the stuff/footage that comes out of Ukraine.

#

People have NO IDEA how demoralizing and OP drone warfare is.

#

A single pack of cloaked railgun drones can probably decimate entire Guard companies, but again they just dont lol

smoky bronze
#

true

tall phoenix
#

yeah and tau got over like 50 drone types

smoky bronze
#

they're small and nimble and have 2 guns each

deft bramble
#

"computer... destroy the enemy..."

smoky bronze
#

if gw werent evil they'd write the tau as something that generals in the region are increasingly horrified and terrified by but the rest of the imperium looks down on because aliens

tall phoenix
#

Lmao basically

smoky bronze
#

soulstorm letting them have a railgun on a moon that just shoots any map was probably the closest thing i've ever gotten to that

tall phoenix
#

Yeah Tau also literally constantly innovate lol

smoky bronze
#

"they just MAKE ordinatus!!! they dont have to dig them up or anything!!!"

#

my dream situation that will never happen is space marines having to go "oh shit theres hammerheads get all the land raiders into cover"

#

but they hate us

#

the tau even have super great morale because they get the same amount of propaganda but also dont have the worst lives imaginable

tall phoenix
#

tbh the hilarious part is the railgun would just penetrate those too until the authors goes "nuh uh"

smoky bronze
#

yeah legitimately the whole idea of tau vs imperium conflicts is predicated on the idea that a group of armor railguns wouldnt obliterate any tank formation they came across with no casualties lol

#

along with guardsmen getting to shoot back

forest spruce
#

When you die to one shot your better off just forgoing any armor and just focusing on speed

smoky bronze
#

computer targeting 💀

#

its not like a railgun has appreciable travel time to change course in

#

(at nonartillery ranges)

#

i think one thing i always loved about the tau is that their railguns even vaguely suggested the idea that they used two rails and werent actually coilguns

#

scifi authors and artists take a college physics class challenge

tall phoenix
#

Yeah again the Tau are just not written competently ever

#

because the moment they do that the entire opposing human army is dead lmao

#

its about as funny because a normal Fire Warrior of like 2-3 could literally kill a space marine from their pulse rifles

smoky bronze
#

i think the tau as described but not written are a bigger threat than the tyranids lol

tall phoenix
#

They would be if they got any good lore tbh

#

one of my biggest wishes was each edition expanding the Tau territory as well but they got like THE tiniest territory in 40k lol

smoky bronze
#

unless their innovation hits a wall it seems like its outpacing the hivemind lol

tall phoenix
deft bramble
#

tau is like a village

smoky bronze
#

they gave them more territory but on the other side of a wormhole so they didnt have to fight the imperium and win KEKW_ogryn

tall phoenix
#

lmao yeah bsically

smoky bronze
#

i didnt actually know they were in the region of ultramar lol

#

the absolute funniest thing GW could do is have the 500 worlds campaign come to a screeching halt at the tau

deft bramble
#

500 worlds having all the tau worlds by accident omegalul

smoky bronze
#

i imagine they're not in the original 500 worlds because they never had imperial settlements and i dont think they counted uncolonized worlds but thats no reason to not collide

#

god their lore is literally "primitive race the imperium was monitoring got cut off by a warp storm for a while and when it went away they were a spacefaring militarily competitive civilization" its such a shame they get written like this

#

like the tau got to where they are from hunter gatherers in less time than from like, the middle kingdom of egypt to now

tall phoenix
#

Basically yeah thats one of the funniest parts of their lore too lol

smoky bronze
#

they're not just better at technology than the imperium they're better than humans as a whole

#

which i guess they at least finally gave them non warp ftl that's good

#

iirc the drives that tore the startide nexus are in service again now

#

wait what the fuck

#

even if this isnt up to date why was this ever the case
the T'au were retconned into possessing no true FTL until the invention of the AL-38 Slipstream Module.[1a]

#

so they colonized the rest of the area slower than light? and are still doing that now during wars?

#

because apparently the slipstreams arent back in service

tall phoenix
#

Yeah its one of the most universally hated retcons on their side lol

#

and like one of THE weirdest

smoky bronze
#

also more dumb lore
"hey im the ftl inventor dont run more than like 100 of these at once"
"ok we'll run 5000 thanks"
...
"wow these are so dangerous put them away"

#

Initial test flights were incredibly successful and allowed any vessel equipped with one to traverse the entire span of the Empire within a few days, a journey that previously required many months.[1a]

#

i guess the empire is only light months apart lmao

#

pretty lucky that they got even one star that close much less dozens of habitable planets!

tall phoenix
#

Again usual plot crutches

smoky bronze
#

(the nearest star to earth is 4.3 lightyears away, but we're kinda in the low density stellar boonies)

tall phoenix
#

homies cant catch a break

smoky bronze
#

oh huh despite stellar density being low proxima centauri is actually unusually close to us for a neigbor outside the galactic core

#

too bad the core is where the votann live instead lol

#

somehow

#

you uh, couldnt live in the galactic core either lol

#

scifi writers take an astronomy class challenge also

#

i know thats literally got its own page on tvtropes but god

#

i honestly hate how much it annoys me considering how narratively convenient bad astronomy is

#

dense asteroid belts are cool but they dont exist Servoskull

tall phoenix
#

sci-fi writers moment

smoky bronze
#

i think the math is that if you take any arbitrary straight line through the center of an asteroid belt the odds of you hitting something are like .000001%

#

for crossing the whole thing

#

i guess the earth mars asteroid belt specifically probably the kuiper belt is even less dense

#

nasa doesnt even plan for crossing the asteroid belt they just assume its gonna be fine

tall phoenix
#

yeah then the spaceship will prob blow up

drowsy urchin
#

Death Rider good

shy lark
#

correct statement

tall phoenix
#

Perfect* but yes

wide mica
tall phoenix
#

She doesn't know.

forest spruce
#

Rare dilara liking anything moment

plain gust
#

Imagine the headline. "Dilara, watcher of Sopranos and hater of anything- exposed liking the Krieg!"

tall phoenix
#

||Yall mfers not realising this is barely a Krieg book and more just focused on a Commissar who spends 2/3 of the book trying to find them while having 1 Krieg character whos his aide||

plain gust
wide mica
tall phoenix
#

Facts are always relevant, none of this will be pressed and ill make sure to hire the best Boeing assassins to remove you all

forest spruce
tall phoenix
#

💰 finger_wag_nope

forest spruce
#

Yeah unless you have blackmail

plain gust
wide mica
tall phoenix
#

What the actual fuck

wide mica
#

You never seen Fall of the House of Usher?

#

Shame, it's peak

muted cloak
drowsy stone
#

Ok so when at the end of betrayer stuff happens and ||argel tal is killed by erebus, lorgar clearly doesnt like it since argel his fave son but why doesnt lorgar go rip his head off hinmself and just tell kharn who dids it||

#

Was that the plan

#

Or like

#

Didnt he just wanna get his hands dirty

forest spruce
#

||because kharn is infinitely worse to piss off than lorgar||

smoky bronze
tall phoenix
#

Its just contrived plot armor

wide mica
drowsy stone
#

Well he did teleport away

wide mica
#

It's so peak

#

I also think every Usher is named after Poe character

#

Roderick and Madeline Usher from "The Fall of the House of Usher", Verna is an anagram of Raven who she represents, Auguste Dupin is from "The Murders of Rue Morgue", "The Purloined Letter", "The Mystery of Marie Roget" and "The Fall of the House of Usher", Arthur Pym is from "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket", Frederick Usher is from "Metzengerstein", Morella Usher is from "morella", Lenore Usher is from "The Raven", Tamerlane Usher is from the poem "Tamerlane", even BillT aka William Willson is from the story "William Wilson", Victorine Lafourcade is from "The Premature Burial", Camille LEspanaye from "The Murders in Rue Morgue", Napeolon Usher is from "The Spectacles", Prospero Usher is from "The Masque of the Red Death" and then finally Annabel Lee Usher is from the poem "Annabel Lee"

#

and like that's not even it, Longfellow the rival CEO is named after a contemporary "rival" of Poe's, the company Fortunado is from "The Cask of Amontillado", Roderick and Madeline's mother is named Eliza after Poe's mother and her death in the show represents a common fear of Poe's (being buried alive)

#

and so much more, it's such a masterpiece of a show

#

Like it's Poe references the entire way down yet still manages to create a new story that doesn't feel derivative or rehashed

plain gust
tall phoenix
#

yeah nothing is gonna happen to him

drowsy stone
#

Like I knew he wouldnt die when I was reading it

tall phoenix
#

hes the biggest asshole in all of 40k

tacit void
#

This bozo still has shit to do before HH is over

drowsy stone
#

Yeah I know I hate him with passion

tall phoenix
#

Yeah hes great

tacit void
#

I love ts guy

tall phoenix
#

same

drowsy stone
#

I cant forgive what he did to loken

tall phoenix
#

"I cant believe evil satan man betrayed the super space nazis"

tacit void
#

Sycar was right

#

Should’ve have had to wait for the Erebus to do it first smh

tall phoenix
#

that scene is too comedic to be taken that seriously imo

#

he literally appears out of nowhere like a TF2 spy

#

and Abaddon just does nothing because plot armor

tacit void
#

A: Why you kill?
E: He stop you from becoming sigma
A:Trvke

muted cloak
#

abby is basically just comically evil calgar equivalent

tall phoenix
#

thats basically every chapter master

muted cloak
#

don't both fight

#

I meant fought in 1v1

tacit void
#

Erebus is also mad aura for having the balls to explain Samus while Abby’s got a sword to his throat and a bunch of Justaerin ready to rip him apart

tall phoenix
#

he knows hes got plot armor

#

bro is untouchable

muted cloak
#

plot armor is so comical in warhammer

#

instead of regular plot armor where dudes usually don't suffer from a normally fatal injury, they survive a fatal injury while suffering from it like nothing happened

tall phoenix
#

this literally happens to the Khan in Siege

tacit void
tall phoenix
#

the book is like "HES DEAD"

#

Bitch we know hes not dying

#

what empty filler lol

tacit void
#

Big E then said no, not dead

forest spruce
#

I really hope at some point in a book some named space marine looks at a gaurdsman or something and says he won't bother learning there name because they'll be dead soon

tall phoenix
#

LOL

forest spruce
#

Nahhhhh

muted cloak
#

most characters visibly recieve very lethal injuries and somehow suvive
bolter bullet in the back of your head ? nah im fine
melta turning my whole body to patty ? nah im fine cuz im angry

severe trail
#

Jokes aside yes I would like that

severe trail
#

I think that’s the most absurd like

#

“How the fuck did you not die”

muted cloak
#

feel no pain +2

severe trail
#

Like he got shot in the face with a melta, a flamer tank exploded in his face

#

And his armor fucking blew up

#

And he lived

muted cloak
#

he was just really angry and had good friends

#

because apparently anger increases your survivability

#

warhammer logic

#

I think huron is like

#

the equivalent of surviving diving on a frag grenade

#

only to end up as angry robocop

tall phoenix
#

@severe trail also finished Chemdog

#

I think its good but goddamn the bolterporn DRAGS

#

i found myself skimming some of it lol

forest spruce
#

There's a lot of bolter porn but that scene of the tremor cannon was beautiful

cerulean peak
#

So... Apostle had potential and it ended up in a midfest

#

I give it a rating of nicecoverart/10

tall phoenix
#

Warned you

#

no one ever listens

cerulean peak
#

Started Valedor last night

tall phoenix
#

Peak mentioned

#

🗣️ 📖

cerulean peak
#

(From the Great Devourer omnibus)

tall phoenix
#

yeah thats like one of THE only universally liked Eldar books lol

#

absolutely bleak

cerulean peak
#

Is the story where that space station gets swallowed by a bio ship and everyone gets digested alive in this?

tall phoenix
#

thats the white scars one

cerulean peak
#

Ahhhh shame

tall phoenix
#

tbh thats like THE only famous part of that entire book

cerulean peak
#

I really enjoyed that excerpt

tall phoenix
#

ive never seen anyone shared any other excerpt from it but that scene

#

also yeah exactly for that reason lmao

cerulean peak
#

KEKW_ogryn an avatar of khaine gets rekt'd in the first few pages of Valedor

tall phoenix
#

thats tradition

forest spruce
#

Almost every time a avatar of khaine shows up it gets killed

plain gust
#

Avatar of Killed

tacit void
#

Vaul works at BL so Khaine must die at all times

fair epoch
covert slate
#

I can’t remember where I heard this but apparently there are kind of detective thrillers in the 40k universe and I’m wondering if you guys know any

severe trail
#

its not all detective stuff but its all that sort of stuff adjacent

covert slate
#

So simple my dumb ass didn’t think of it

severe trail
#

Start with bloodlines

#

then pick literally anything and go from there

#

Bloodlines is the only book of the bunch thats mandatory before you read the rest

severe trail
#

no problem

#

My favorite of the bunch is Flesh and Steel tbh

runic root
drowsy stone
#

Why I read astartes novels, we are not the same

tacit trail
#

Should I start the Yarrick, Gaunt's Ghosts, Ciaphas Cain, or Macharius books first?

tall phoenix
#

Entirely depends on what you wanna read tbh

#
  • Yarrick and Macharius are self-contained books, extremely underrated and largely forgotten by the fanbase but are pretty good/fun reads
  • Cain is a generally outdated comedy series where the moment you read 1 book you basically read all of them as the author always rehashes similiar plots, tropes and structures
  • Ghosts is great but just has way too many books and is a series you should prob read on and off.
tacit trail
tall phoenix
#

But depends on what you are looking for

limpid yoke
tall phoenix
#

Absolute goat, everyone might think hes a freak but so are the greatest artists 😔

frigid osprey
#

his interview with jordan sorcery was good

#

hes a cheeky chappie

tall phoenix
#

Remember every great artist puts their own kinks into their works

runic root
deft bramble
tall phoenix
cerulean peak
#

he doesn't know

cerulean peak
smoky bronze
#

"This book also needs a hot secretary who's in love with a man as elderly as i am" (and more!)

tacit void
sick axle
runic root
#

Such is the power...

peak acorn
#

Of nagash

unborn merlin
#

Been reading Cadian Blood, I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

fickle temple
#

Bro I cannot fucking take it with how Necrons process time bro

#

STANDING AROUND. SILENTLY THINKING OF AN ANSWER FOR 3 YEARS

forest spruce
#

Reading infinite and the divine I see

fickle temple
#

Ever so slowly

#

But yes

#

Is it bad I sorta wanna be a cron overlord? Probably not thinking about the grander issues

#

One primarily being boredom

#

Oh yeah and the fucking politics of being one

#

God

#

Just everything trazyn and orikan has is so fucking cool

#

No physical pain or strain. So much that you don't even need chairs anymore bruh

#

Holy fuck

#

im glazing this book too hard

#

its like crack

#

I guess being a necron makes even that more bareable, no actual headache

shy lark
#

But are they as cool as Baknephet the Fathomless

fickle temple
#

Mental Health and physical health are two entirely seperate things with crons which is a huge plus.

#

your body is just steel, your mind is uh, something idk.

#

Something is there

#

I like chronomancy a lot in this book

#

Its just so fucked.

shy lark
#

it's a good time

fickle temple
#

And the idea of just pausing time/slowing down your chronosense to just think for a while

shy lark
#

I just wanna take a moment to glaze Baknephet some more, look at how cool she is

fickle temple
#

is that a diff book

shy lark
#

yeah

#

It's the short story One Million Years

fickle temple
#

nice

shy lark
tall phoenix
fickle temple
#

i didnt think about that part ngl

shy lark
#

It has one of my all time favourite necron writing bits

#

About the nerves firing that aren't there and wanting to breathe but you can't

fickle temple
#

That sounds like phantom sense

#

zoinks

shy lark
#

you should read it, go on

fickle temple
#

im busy playing csgo and finishing off this chapter at the same time

shy lark
#

csgo? a person of your talents? really?

fickle temple
#

talents?

#

is saying nasty shit online a talent?

shy lark
#

fickle temple
#

im trash at this game

odd skiff
fickle temple
#

YOU AINT PLAY WITH ME

#

WATCH ME CARRY

vocal valley
#

Can anyone recommend me a cool book from 40k thats not 1 million dollars or sum

#

Im new to 40k btw

drowsy urchin
#

pinned messages has a good list of starters

#

also any books selling for 100s of dollars are after market out of production books by people hoping to get an easy buck, almost all novels are available digitally and most recent ones are available physically. They do reprints every now and then too

vocal valley
#

Oh

#

Thanks

proven bridge
#

gets constantly printed out

#

Cuz its very popular

fluid yarrow
drowsy urchin
#

Death Rider, the only good Krieg book?

fluid yarrow
#

Is it really?

drowsy urchin
#

Yes

#

Like by a good margin

fluid yarrow
#

I haven't been able to finish a Death Korp of Kringe novel.

#

Not familiar with the author though.

drowsy urchin
#

There was a lot of talk about it here a month back after it had been released

#

Everyone here who read/listened it here liked it a lot

fluid yarrow
#

Even Dillara?

drowsy urchin
#

Especially her

fluid yarrow
#

Good lord.

#

Well, I guess I'll add it to the list.

#

I came here to make my annual bitch-post about Pandaemonium still not being out. Got talked into considering a Krieg novel instead.

drowsy urchin
#

Get got

#

But Pandemonium soon, trust

fluid yarrow
#

Dan R. R. Abnett

drowsy urchin
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The book is probably already written, GW is just pushing back it's release to fit some other in world event they want to tie it in with probably

tacit void
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Pretty sure Abnett said it’s done

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They just won’t let him release coz

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of the Amazon Show apparently

fluid yarrow
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Of which there is also zero information right?

tacit void
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Yes

drowsy urchin
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The amazon show being a reason or part of a reason is pure speculation, no?

tacit void
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I’ve heard claims he said so

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I’d consider it speculative for now

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But it’s all we have afaik

fluid yarrow
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I guess now that everything's Era Indomitus we'll never see that live adaption of Eisenhorn/Ravenor. Cavill would of been great as Gregor.

drowsy urchin
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He's not scruffy enough

tacit void
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I’m still betting the show is Eisenhorn

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But Cavill should play Pontius Glaw or smth

drowsy urchin
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I just hope they do something smaller scale

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Eisenhorn Xenos is potentially fine

tacit void
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Agreed

drowsy urchin
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but something original could be nice too

fluid yarrow
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Before I judge either of you too harshly, who would be your choice for Eisenhorn?

drowsy urchin
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Ralph Ineson probably

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I've not done much fancasting ever tbh

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But he has the voice and bearing for it

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Jason Isaacs could work too

tacit void
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Early on Isaacs

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Maybe Fiennes later

fluid yarrow
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Isaacs definitely, Ineson I can't abide.

drowsy urchin
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Ineson is fucking great smh

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especially for older Eisenhorn

fluid yarrow
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Eh, I think casting different actors for different ages a bit much.

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I'll throw Rufus Sewell into the ring.

drowsy urchin
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I'm going with the assumption we'd get to see one age eisenhorn

drowsy urchin
fluid yarrow
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He played John Smith in Man In The High Castle.

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British actor.

drowsy urchin
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Haven't watched it, nor anything else he has been in it seems now that I looked him up

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besides The Legend of Zorro

fluid yarrow
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Of all things 7529_KEKW

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Man in the HIgh Castle is really good, you should give it a go.

drowsy urchin
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been meaning to at some point

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fluid yarrow
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The guy described as Aeldari looking XD

drowsy urchin
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Ravenor is described as a tall and slender man with high cheekbones, almost elfish

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Think Cillian Murphy but less scruffy

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Though he isn't that tall

tacit void
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Both work imo

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Although looking at Cillian

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I admit he’s got the better face match

drowsy urchin
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Cavill would do a better Ravenor than Eisenhorn, but I wouldn't want to see him as him either

tacit void
drowsy urchin
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Yeah sure

fluid yarrow
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Pontius Glaw, the guy who exists in a non corporeal form for much of the series?

tacit void
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Yeah

fluid yarrow
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You'd waste that face on it? 7529_KEKW

tacit void
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I mean he could do a killer voice I’m sure

drowsy urchin
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I don't think his face is really the main selling point for something like 40k

fluid yarrow
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Just do what everyone else does and get Mark Hamill.

tacit void
tacit void
drowsy urchin
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to be frank I'd prefer he didn't have a role at all but would focus on producing the show