40k-book-club

[tall phoenix]

Im currently reading Void King maybe that will help, I need distractions until that eldar corsair book by Brooks is out.

[drowsy urchin]

I've got a bunch of Gaunt's audiobooks waiting for a listen

5 to be exact

[tall phoenix]

Perfect books but also eepers 😔

[drowsy urchin]

I've been going through them one or two at a time and having something else in between

[wise yew]

the gav thorpe special

[reef nacelle]

Post-Straight Silver reaction

[pale vigil]

Any books from the perspective of a dreadnought?

[runic root]

Not as far as i know but several books have chapters or sequences from the perspective of one. What ever is left of malcarion of the night lords has a few pov chapters in the night lords trillogy.

[runic root]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/eshort-the-vengeful-dead-eng-2024.html

[runic root]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/quick-reads/eshort-confession-of-pain-eng-2022.html

[runic root]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/quick-reads/sanctus-reach-penumbral-spike-ebook.html

[runic root]

As far as ive read the descriptions, the first one i linked you is from the sole pov of a Dread. The other two feature them heavily.

I havent read any of them, they are all short stories though and no full length novels.

Maybe our lord and master @tall phoenix can give more details or advice, for she seems to have read more books than some people have thought thoughts....

[unborn merlin]

They're mostly just relegated to short stories and side characters.

Technically you could read books centering around Bjorn before and after the heresy ☝️🤓

[tall phoenix]

A lot of them are just "okay" tbh

its just your run of the mill mid-2000's warhammer book lol

[runic root]

So for the guy above worth a mention but not a cold hard recommendation?

[solemn glen]

@tall phoenix do you know where i can report a bug/problem since i cant accept/ send friend request to people

[tall phoenix]

Fatshark Forums

[solemn glen]

danke

[quaint canopy]

You probably meant Teşekkür ederim 😆

[fringe thorn]

A pet peeve while finishing up The Founding omnibus for Gaunt's Ghosts, Dan Abnett uses the word ochre (to mean natural earth pigments) so many times.

I just read page 511:

Kowle had command now. Using the VPHC Commissar Langana as his second officer, he had
managed to regroup the shattered remnants of the tank force and swing it back towards the city. It felt
like retreat, but Kowle knew it was a sound tactical decision. They were facing an ochre wave out
there on the grass-flats, a stupendous Zoica armoured front, pushing in through three salients. Only in
his days with the Imperial Guard, during major offensives like Balhaut and Cociaminus, had he seen
anything like this scale of assault. And there were infantry regiments behind, thick like locusts,
following the armour.

Kowle didn’t even want to think about the size of the opposition just now. It was… unbelievable.
It was impossible. An ochre wave — that’s all he could see, the tide of ochre-painted machines
rolling over his forces, crushing them.

[drowsy urchin]

it's almost like an ochretide

[sonic walrus]

That shit is over used in every damned wh40k novel lol

[runic root]

The stuff above is one of the reasons why i always cringe at terrain descriptions.

Dont care, just tell me who beats up whom, and at the end the ultramarines win. That's all i care about

[drowsy urchin]

Nah I really like to know the surroundings as well

[runic root]

Huh

[drowsy urchin]

just like, keep it manageable

[runic root]

As long as it isnt relevant to the action on screen i dont care

My adhd brain cant keep those details anyways 🤣😅💀

[reef nacelle]

You must hate Dan Abnett, he goes hard on describing the scenes

[runic root]

I know.... I usually skim the descriptions and focus on the action

That's why i love straightforward bolterporn so much. Little distractions, lotsa tangible actions.

Either that or compelling dialogue.

But spare me the scenery, If i wanna see hours of detailed panorama shots i'll watch the extended version of LotR, thank you very much

[open kite]

Listening to the audio book of lords of silence, the narrator might be too good. The Phlegmatic burbling and crunchy voices of some of the Death Guard is 10/10.

If it wasn't such a damn good novel I might have stopped listening

[sonic walrus]

Keep it ochre*** FTFY

[drowsy urchin]

[forest spruce]

@wise yew well I decided to get and start reading mad doc grotsnik and I gotta say I see why you love the book

[wise yew]

yessir it's probably one of the most peak ork literature

Second only or at least equal to Prophet of the WWWAAAAAAAGGGH

[mental cobalt]

i have now chosen to finish the rest of the horus heresy by audiobooks i have illegally downloaded ☺️

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-well-blow-thats-it-gif-18128535

[weak cedar]

You wouldn't download a library!

[mellow knot]

Just a quiet and polite reminder to everyone to not promote or in anyway glorify piracy, please. kthx

[weak cedar]

https://youtu.be/ALZZx1xmAzg?si=L7TxV5AAc8f0J6S9

[mental cobalt]

I am extremely against intellectual property laws but I will respect your request

[forest spruce]

It's one of the server rules just respect it or shell smite ye

[tall phoenix]

Yeah debatable or not dont openly talk about pirating please

mostly because this is an official server technically so

[safe plover]

"Although, according to the official records, he left no known descendants, Cain occasionally employs turns of phrase which suggest he wasn’t entirely unfamiliar with the existence of small children – possibly a result of the time he spent as the regimental commissar of the Valhallan 597th, a mixed-gender regiment, where it’s safe to assume that human nature resulted in the inevitable ensuing welfare issues crossing his desk from time to time."

what the fuck is the point of this paragraph

[drowsy urchin]

that he might have offspring

simple as

[safe plover]

what the fuck is amberly saying

"HE KNEW HUMAN CHILDREN EXISTED"

WOAH THANKS AMBERLY

[drowsy urchin]

it's a jibe at his character

[safe plover]

the more i read of her fucking notes the more i feel shes mad he didnt ask her out

god this series is so fucking bad

[drowsy urchin]

are you dumb

how does that read as mad, she jokes about him all the time

[safe plover]

ever been to kindergarten?

[drowsy urchin]

many many years ago

whenever cain mentions any of his exes or possible flings she gets sassy and makes jokes about him in the footnotes, she's jealous and doesn't hide it very well

[safe plover]

how is that different from what i said?

[tall phoenix]

stop being mad and learn to read

someone turn this guy to shark soup already

🫡

[safe plover]

^ not relevant

[drowsy urchin]

being mad/angry and jealous/sassy are not the same

and getting mad about that is dumb

[forest spruce]

Amberly is just jealous because she wants the imperiums hero to her self

[safe plover]

that was implied my guy

[drowsy urchin]

sure

[safe plover]

"shes mad he didnt ask her out"

regardless of all that

horrible horrible series

im sick of her explaining the same 5 tings every book

A PURPLE SCARF

lady i know you told me in every book

[drowsy urchin]

we're sick of you explaining your weird opinions every book........

[safe plover]

????????????

[wise yew]

just like you explaining the same thing when we don't agree with you?

[safe plover]

you said you hated the book

dilara said she hated the book

[drowsy urchin]

When

I always said I liked the series but it's not good for binge reading

Think Dil said something similar but more negative in tone as usual

[reef nacelle]

Not one of those says the books are bad lol

[safe plover]

everyone who doesnt agree with me is lying because they wanna be contrarians

[tall phoenix]

I dont hate the cain books lol

they are simply mid/ok

[safe plover]

case and point

[tall phoenix]

🪞

Get out of the kitchen

🗣️

[drowsy urchin]

Me comparing Cain and G&F as a starter book for their representative universes is not me saying I hate the Cain books

[tall phoenix]

TURN THIS MAN INTO SOUP

NOW

[wise yew]

this entire statement explains why you found jealousy as anger

[safe plover]

again "shes mad he didnt ask her out"

[drowsy urchin]

Which doesnt even track true because they went out as far as I remember

She's jealous, not mad

[safe plover]

oh my god that was implied in what i said

[drowsy urchin]

No??

[safe plover]

i didnt say mad with rage

i didnt say angry

[safe plover]

taking everything i say in bad faith also goes back to this

[drowsy urchin]

Honestly I don't care about the semantics of that phrase, more so about the reaction you had to it

[safe plover]

goal post

[tall phoenix]

Bro what is this argument

[mental cobalt]

cain books are just good comic relief to read every now and then

don't read back to back

i would say that with most authors tbh

it's good to refresh and switch between

unless you're reading the inquisitor series by abnett

then please continue

[tall phoenix]

[runic root]

Jeeesus

What the hell happend here 🤣

Clad throwing hands with the world again i see

[cerulean peak]

Obligatory

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

[forest spruce]

That's amazing

[runic root]

This is sooo fucking accurate

[kindred yacht]

@tall phoenix do you have a book on how to talk to women?

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-cat-cat-my-honest-reaction-cat-with-the-hat-cat-in-the-hat-gif-25359607

[kindred yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-headphones-jam-catjam-bop-gif-7100999673437361307

That me btw im a pretty princess

[pale vigil]

I love this mechanicus grandma from Void Exile.

walks up to Carcharodon, says its nice to meet a fellow warrior
fixes his bolter for free
overcomes the daemonic hack taking over all Scitari on the planet by ripping a chunk of her skull out
agrees to assault the main daemonic hold because the machine spirits scream for vengeance and she's not above petty emotions

[wise yew]

You are asking a warhammer fan if they have a book about talking to women that is like asking a chaos marine if he has a book on comprehensive how to not burn down an orphanage

[kindred yacht]

Anyone got a book on how to talk to men?

[pale vigil]

Also the villain from this book is hilarious.

"Ah, nice to see you again Arch Magos Whateverthefuck. Remember me?"
"Dude, that guy died over 10,000 years ago. Who tf are you?"

Although one of the central plot points is that a group of Carcharos are 'void exiles', which means they've been stripped of arms (but not armour or bolters) and have been sent to go die somewhere.

Which seems wasteful as fuck for a Chapter constantly going on about how rare their geneseed is or how little decent, functional equipment they have left

Like they know where the exiles have been sent, buuut it's not particularly accurate. The regular Carcharos defending the planet had no idea there were any exiles in the sector

[tall phoenix]

Anything deemed wasteful is on point for the Imperium, traditions/oaths and other honor nonsense damns them

you apply sense to people who dont want any of it

[pale vigil]

"Honour is a dead thing"

The carcharo's thing is that theyre practical above all else

[tall phoenix]

I mean not really no

[tall phoenix]

See prior, then it goes back to traditions or oaths

which they very much do still because they are indoctrinated nutjobs lol

[pale vigil]

Like, I kinda get it from one perspective. Shar lost himself to the blindness, basically red rage, and did some bad things. Its not combat effective to have a guy go mad like that, especially if he's high ranked, buuut surely you just utilise him somewhere else

Rather than sending him to a moving space hulk and forgetting about him

The chapter's psykers are ridiculous tho so it's probably not that big a deal, they could probably just TP the exiles back home if needed

[tall phoenix]

Space Marines are not usually known fo being sensible tbh

especially ones who are brutal slavers

so it works either way

[pale vigil]

See the carcharos are still one of the more sensible chapters, at least from the perspective of the 2 books I've read so far

[tall phoenix]

They seem sensible because you are reading books focused on them, on any other appearance they arrive to blow up an entire hive city reactor to kill everyone on a planet to make sure an enemy contingent is dead

them doing one or two things that makes sense wont stop them from doing other rash actions, they are indoctrinated meat-tanks

[pale vigil]

Like the Ashen Claw dude is all, "Your psyker promised the gauntlets." And Red Wake is just, "Who the fuck said he had the right?"

[pale vigil]

What other books do they appear in?

The lex only lists main protag books I thiiiink

I wannnnna read the babap stuff or whatever that war is called

[tall phoenix]

I mean hes right, he stole it

[tall phoenix]

Mostly rulebooks/forgeworld stuff

[severe trail]

They're so based in Badab(they kill a bunch of innocent people)

[pale vigil]

So much content hidden in places I'l never see it

[severe trail]

[tall phoenix]

I mean you can

Badab is like one of the most popular events in the lore

you can read all of it from the wiki since its copy pasted word by word lol

[pale vigil]

Is that whole series laid out in rule books lmao?

[severe trail]

I mean yeah?

[tall phoenix]

Yeah 2 of them

[severe trail]

thats a lot of stuff in 40k

[tall phoenix]

^

[severe trail]

Is badab not 3?

wait no its 2

[tall phoenix]

Like

the entire book series you are reading now

wouldnt exist if it wasnt for those 2 rulebooks

[severe trail]

I think bligh likes tall men and women

my proof is the imperial armor books he wrote

[tall phoenix]

[severe trail]

what

THERE IS PROOF

[tall phoenix]

Present it before the council

[severe trail]

WHY IS THE AUTARCH SO TALL IN MYMERA, WHY IS EVERY FW CHARACTER WRITTEN BY BLIGH SO TALL

[tall phoenix]

Lmao ffs

[severe trail]

Bel-Annath from Mymera also he's as tall as a fucking WRAITHGUARD

ARE YA KIDDING ME

[tall phoenix]

hey if it works i guess

[severe trail]

true!

oh also Tyberos, Moloch, Polux, Huron, the Eldar Corsair Princess from I forgot what, the Taros Tau commander

THEY'RE ALL SO TALL

[pale vigil]

40k do be having a fetish for tall people

Kinda just big things in general

[mellow knot]

I miss Alan. He was a lovely bloke. We used to talk a lot of nonsense.

[tall phoenix]

Wait really 😩

he really was just taken so soon

[severe trail]

taken too soon from us

[mellow knot]

Several years ago now. But most definitely never forgotten. Raise a glass to the Perfidious Bligh.

[reef nacelle]

I think I've been reading too much 40k recently

I go to another fantasy book and I'm surprised when situations work out well and no one is maimed, killed or sacrificed horribly

[runic root]

Well, thats definetly a way to start a conversation with a female Mod

Go back to zealot Chat lmao

[mental cobalt]

i have stolen and appropriated the finger wag for myself

[tall phoenix]

bastard

[kindred yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/itachi-uchiha-ragebait-ragebait-of-this-level-ragebait-of-this-level-has-no-effect-on-me-gif-7187797612453609971

https://tenor.com/view/cat-headphones-jam-catjam-bop-gif-7100999673437361307

[unborn merlin]

Horus Heresy forever!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/raonxeh6/the-dropsite-massacre-a-new-perspective-in-the-latest-black-library-novel/

[wide mica]

"Hey maybe now that the Horus Heresy is done we'll see more books focusing on other parts of the universe"

The Scouring

"Oh, okay I guess they're doing that, well atleast it's some progress and the Horus Heresy is over"

Dropsite Massacre

[severe trail]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GxdjtDdWIAA19YB.gif

[tall phoenix]

My favorite part with this is how we literally got an entire rulebook exploring the dropsite in detail and like 2 novels lol

[severe trail]

We do not need more dropsite lore

[tall phoenix]

more loyalist slop

next

[unborn merlin]

Can't wait to meet a new named IH only for them to die almost immediately.

Very cool GW!

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

Yeah im gonna wait for a summary homies ngl

I just got no energy for this shit anymore

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-i-just-dont-care-i-dont-have-it-in-me-no-more-arthur-morgan-gif-4815977374240893656

[severe trail]

I’m ngl

I literally wouldn’t be as annoyed if it wasn’t dropsite lore

But it is dropsite lore

[wise yew]

When you're in a milk a series competition but your opponent is GW writing horus heresy books

[tall phoenix]

UNLESS they do something drastically new yeah im expecting nothing, like the dropsite literally has nothing exciting to explore

Like

loyalists drop in

they get slaughtered

[severe trail]

We have a timeline

[tall phoenix]

cue sad last stands

[severe trail]

Of what every legion was doing

[tall phoenix]

or whatever

[severe trail]

At the dropsite

To the fucking hour

(Ty Bligh) but still

[tall phoenix]

YEP

[severe trail]

There’s not much fucking new ground to tread

lol

[tall phoenix]

also yeah no shade to him, the dropsite shit in the black books is legit great

and like

this entire book is being made

for that stupid fucking boxset

so whatever lol

[severe trail]

I’m just looking at this

As a shattered legion book

And praying it’s not shit

(I won’t read it)

[tall phoenix]

Shat Legions more like

[tall phoenix]

As ever gonna wait for the summary on reddit lol

[zinc crystal]

but what if theres a plot twist where the marines betray the marines at the drop site?

[severe trail]

With their writing quality? Yeah

Lmao

[wide mica]

The plot twist being that the Loyalists actually knew it was an ambush

and cunningly triggered it as part of their larger strategy

[zinc crystal]

the plot twist was that the traitors thought they were also gunning down other traitors, they just didnt care

[tall phoenix]

Boy do I got news for you...

[tall phoenix]

IRON WARRIORS MOMENT

[tall phoenix]

I hate how this would legit be a thing

"See I, Malcador, totally predicted this whole thing, lemme narrate how we let it happen as our 5D Chess move-"

shut up SHUT UP

[zinc crystal]

what it was was an aeldari scheme

itl end with a cliffhanger where 3 aeldar rangers saw the whole massacre , because they knew something

what they knew, we will find out when the King in Yellow arrives

after losing all his money in the webway motosport arena betting against jagatai khan at webway podracing

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao god sakes

[celest heron]

Puts word on your body because you cant read

[kindred yacht]

Loyaltist in disguise

[smoky bronze]

this would be the funniest explanantion possible for what khan has been up to
"where have you been for the last 10000 years"
"i was racing"

[tall phoenix]

They’re too based for that shit

[zinc crystal]

thats exactly what he's doing, him and the dark eldar are racing in the webway

for thrills and competition

its either that or the dark eldar have kidnapped him and hopefully brainwashed and mutilated him into being a dark eldar puppet

https://tenor.com/view/carlos-sainz-champagne-f1-gif-16788981443646165459

jaghatai khan living it up in commorragh

[sonic walrus]

The Khan is sitting somewhere in the webway meditating, for 10000 years.

[smoky bronze]

Think im gonna order a killteam and paints today and paint for the first time in forever

[forest spruce]

Nice I just bought a chaos vet kill team the other day

[smoky bronze]

Maybe the heirotech, hernkyn yaegirs, or naval breachers

I probably need new plastic glue too...

[forest spruce]

Lowkey kinda wish all models just went together like they do in the starter kits

[smoky bronze]

Do the starter kits snapfit now?

Last time i painted it was all sprue and glue

Ugh i gotta decide on a box then decide what paint colors and buy primer and plastic glue

I thought i had styrene primer but i don't

[forest spruce]

The one I bought did it was necrons vs ultra

That was a few years ago now

[celest heron]

Iron within iron without, and who has more iron

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-iron-inception-gif-8972420

[celest heron]

Hate iron man

Suit isnt even iron smh

Also there are loyalist iron warriors

[forest spruce]

Silver skulls are also iron warrior

[final adder]

Are there any good novels about the white scars?

[tall phoenix]

Quite a few actually lol

they just never get any traction

• The Last Hunt (top recommend)
• Scars
• Path of Heaven
• Warhawk
• Brotherhood of the Storm

[final adder]

Thanks!

[tall phoenix]

these are kinda all they got so make the best use out of them lol

[runic root]

Cant wait for the 10 book minimum mid series about the Khan in the webway and how he clawed his way out of drukhari imprisonment to once again cosplay as sonic the stoic hedgehog

Especially cant wait for dilara and Clad beefing about the series

[forest spruce]

Gulliman gets a ten book series meanwhile the lion still only has 1 fucking book

[runic root]

Cypher ate the rest of the books honhonhonhon

I am Alpharius

[final adder]

Peak Khan activities

[mellow knot]

No, they aren’t.

[forest spruce]

Weren't they formed by the iron warriors that fought along side gulliman

[mellow knot]

No. They’re not Iron Warriors.

[severe trail]

No, they just have an emblem that kinda looks like it.

The scythes of the emperor have more fodder for that theory

But even then it’s unlikely

[mellow knot]

This is one of those occasions where I absolutely know what I’m talking about.

[severe trail]

Didn’t you write a book on them

I’m like 99.9% sure

[mellow knot]

I wrote two books and several short stories about them, yes.

[forest spruce]

Huh then where the hell did I hear that from

[mellow knot]

It’s a popular misconception.

However, it isn’t the case.

For a long time, they were listed as an unknown founding and then the studio flagged them as UM successors.

[severe trail]

But yeah the scythes of the emperor were literally made in honor

Of the IW who served with the UM

And have IW relics from the heresy along with UM ones

[severe trail]

Prolly because it was a really common theory for a while

Their emblems looking similar doesn’t help the theory fodder either

[forest spruce]

That's what I must be thinking of

[severe trail]

But the. Scythes are likely just UM geneseed nowadays

Even if some of the original founding members may have been IW

[forest spruce]

(unless cawl did some fuckery)

Because the scythes were completely wiped out and now there's only new genestock

[severe trail]

Doesn’t really matter who dad is

At the end of the day

[forest spruce]

Really not

[forest spruce]

To be fair you definitely know more than I would given you are an author who has access to far more accurate information. I trust your word I'm just pretty scramble brained today.

[mellow knot]

All good 👍

[runic root]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-oeqdr8zA3Q?si=qfDN0Dzn_zME9Tiv

Not the right channel but very sick edit

Had to share

Pls forgive breach of rules

[cerulean peak]

Playing through the Dawn of War remaster makes me want to retry reading the C S Goto novel but I know I shouldn't

[severe trail]

Don’t

You almost drove yourself to insanity before

[cerulean peak]

But now i've come further in the campaign than where I was in the book

Are all four campaigns covered in the book?

[severe trail]

I don’t remember

I purged my mind of that garbage

[cerulean peak]

Blessed is the mind too small for trash

[runic root]

Elaborate pls?

[wide mica]

Backflipping terminators

[tall phoenix]

Dogshit books. Dogshit author. Guy got so toxic from fan hatemail from how much his books sucked that he got fired by GW lol

[hybrid turtle]

wow those books are really that bad?

[wide mica]

Backflipping terminators

[tall phoenix]

Its not even that

theres like an entire list of things awful about it

[runic root]

[tall phoenix]

Yeah they are. CS goto is not a great writer and tends to ignore a lot of established lore. His descriptions of various people, plots, and weapons are inconsistent (sometimes they even change from page to page). Overall it felt like someone forced him to write this book and he was just really not into it.

again, he got fired

[runic root]

Lmao

Imagine not being able to recognize valid critizism

[hybrid turtle]

oh wow

[runic root]

Guess he fits right into the community

[tall phoenix]

Yeet

[runic root]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6_ApJ5sXrxY?si=9NIU7WE7JGd0VhMP

[cerulean peak]

Yea, I started the book saying to myself it can't be that bad. It starts slow and it's getting worse as you progress

And it just feels... bland

There's action and dialogues in the book but everything feels boring

Plus all the lore "inconsistencies"

[hybrid turtle]

hmmm

[cerulean peak]

And playing the game makes me realise he just copied the cinematics dialogues and the overall mission objectives and tried to add meat around all that

Which didn't worked out

And keep in mind the version i've been reading is the REVISED edition

Yes; they changed a few things to make the book more lore friendly in a later printing but it's still shit and not lore friendly

There's a whole preface talking about goto hate

[hybrid turtle]

people were probably very excited for the book after the game was so good lol

huge miss

[cerulean peak]

Yea, high hopes = high disapointment

Now all eyes are upon dawn of war 4

[hybrid turtle]

theres youtubers that have played it a bit right? whats the general opinion on it rn

[final adder]

Commissar Gaunt easter egg in the Ciaphas Cain omnibus

[tall phoenix]

[runic root]

I like little tasteful nods like these

[final adder]

[sick axle]

Fucking love Cain.

I finished the Hero of the Imperium omnibus a week ago, started on the Eisenhorn omnibus now.

Gotta say, Cain is probably my favorite 40k character after reading it lol.

[runic root]

And that is the "good version" of grimdark.

Marines malevolent would bomb a hospital full with newborn babies If the could.

[runic root]

Most human person in all 40k.

Not a stoic superhuman killer but just an opportunistic idiot who knows that He is one trying to survive the horrors of the 41st Millenium, all while suffering from the biggest imposter syndrome ive ever seen

[pale vigil]

When the mission to go as grimdark as possible goes full circle into grimderp

Reading this book where a commissar is hunting a daemon on this planet, he manages to kill the thing with his party. However then he's like, "the threat of corruption to the planet is too great, exterminatus it." on an open vox so all the guardsmen on the planet hear him

The grimdarkness is meant to come from 'all the suicides' by the guardsmen after hearing they were gonna be incinerated, but how the fuck are you gonna bleach a planet because of one daemon

Not even a greater daemon or anything special, just a casual dude doing regular daemon stuff

[drowsy urchin]

which book? but yeah a reaction of that magnitude is rare but if the planet isn't somehow important to the imperium options like that might be utilized to minimize the risk of corruption

[pale vigil]

First book of the blackstone series

[drowsy urchin]

blackstone fortress series?

[pale vigil]

Yeh

[drowsy urchin]

I heard those are good, haven't read them myself

[pale vigil]

I mean its pretty good but it kinda does go over the top with the 'grimdarkness'

[tall phoenix]

Thats the idea.

I always hated the term "grimderp" because it always ends up stemming from someone not liking being reminded the fact that the Imperium is made up of brainwashed nutjobs

[wise yew]

Breaking news people surprise the dark setting is in fact quite dark

[pale vigil]

Thats what I mean by 'goes full circle to grimderp'

[tall phoenix]

I read that story. It really doesnt.

[pale vigil]

Wiping out the entire planet over one daemon is a bit silly lmao

[tall phoenix]

Literally some of the greatest daemonic incursions in lore spread through 1 slip-up

all those Steel Legionaries the Space Wolves rescued for example ended up spreading corruption/ruin to the planets they let them escape to

[reef nacelle]

Wait, the inquisition was right on that one?

I really need to read the emperors gift

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[sick axle]

With the most useful aide in existance

Gotta shine a light on our boy Jurgen too.

Everyone's favorite stinky ||blank||.

[brittle tapir]

listening to infinite and the divine

robert rath rarely misses man

[tall phoenix]

finally experiences peak

Infinite & Divine is my favorite gay rom-com

[brittle tapir]

old married couple go on adventure

[drowsy urchin]

Richard Reed is also such a perfect narrator for it too

[final adder]

Gotta love how they ||go through all this character development throughout the story, only for them to start bickering over old bullshit all over again at the end lmao||

Also

[cerulean peak]

No wonder he makes that face; he's reading Indomitus

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao gottem

[tall phoenix]

Once again people I must remind you

40k IS A VERY SERIOUS SETTING

[wise yew]

one of the funniest things that have happened in this setting

[final adder]

LMFAOOO

[tall phoenix]

I love warhammer

[mental cobalt]

i love 40k

idk if i'd love the non-40k warhammer

[tall phoenix]

we must make sure not to pull the plug

[severe trail]

Read age of sugmar

It’s good I promise

[final adder]

Vermintide is worth checking out

[brittle tapir]

like giving a pipe bomb to a child

[pale vigil]

I do love when Necros are just like, 'Yknow what? Give the hillbillies a black hole generator, see what happens."

Side note I just finished Baneblade, I need more crew stories

Titanicus is on the list, though I dont like the sound of narrator

[runic root]

metallic snickering ensues

[runic root]

Would you recommend it?

[pale vigil]

Its pretty good, bit of a 'nothing' plot but it serves the purpose of being a story about a Baneblade crew

Shadowsword, the sequel, has some inquisitor stuff happening, so that might be a more interesting story

[runic root]

I only ever read that lemon russ siege gun tank crew where they flee the entire time from a melee khornite knight

Was thrilling

[runic root]

Baneblade and Shadowsword ... I'll add them to the list

[pale vigil]

They're hunting down a Gargant in Baneblade, and there is actually quite a fun cat-and-mouse scene with it and a captured shadowsword

[runic root]

Sounds good.

I like tank books

[pale vigil]

The Orc weirdboy was pulling some 'War of the Beast' level bullshit tho

[severe trail]

Psychic powers

Moment

[pale vigil]

Blocking multiple orbital blasts across an entire hive complex

Whilst also piloting the Gargant

[runic root]

Orc-i-dy-orc-orc

[severe trail]

Alpha level ork psyker confirmed

[runic root]

Main character syndrome

[wise yew]

hey they can turn you into a squig as well so

[tall phoenix]

Xenos are allowed those moments

imperial characters got way worse ones lol

[pale vigil]

Not read a lot of books with actually strong psykers in them yet, but this Orc is on some shit

[severe trail]

Nah

There’s way stronger psykers in books/rulebooks

lol

[pale vigil]

Mans blocking volcano cannon blasts, Naval bombardment and also hyping up the boys

[severe trail]

That Ork is fine imo

[pale vigil]

At the same time

[wise yew]

be glad he wasn't making it quicker

[severe trail]

I use the mephiston index

Mephiston has done the most bullshit out of any living Psyker

In his novels and codex entries

[reef nacelle]

Well, the Ork hasn't randomly exploded yet, so he's probably reasonably powerful

[severe trail]

if it’s less then mephiston it’s fine

lol

[runic root]

Bruh could bring back the dead If he wanted....

That Shit is crazy. Especially since they mentioned it in like a subordinate clause, like thats just a tuesday for him lmao

[severe trail]

Yeah

Again that’s my thing for non like

Greater daemon psyker limit

Mephiston’s bullshit is the limit

Anything below it I don’t even need to think about

[runic root]

Although i find it funny how Tigurius is such a pain in the hiveminds butt that it hates him personally

[mental cobalt]

Guilliman was 9 hours from terra...

[tall phoenix]

He was never gonna arrive

Terra in this version is stuck in a perpetual paranormal loop

Horus dying cut all of that off

[ancient sierra]

I finally have the money to invest in getting books
What should I start with for warhammer? I remember being recommended the soul drinkers series

[tall phoenix]

Check the pins and go from there, we got some recommendation lists for each faction

Soul Drinkers is a bit too narrative heavy for a space marine book for beginners

[runic root]

Most definetly read legion and tell everyone in here how much you loved it

[ancient sierra]

I don't know enough to be certain that's sarcasm

[severe trail]

There’s one person here who really hates the book

Is the joke

[runic root]

Oh, the book is fine

[severe trail]

The book is a heresy book

[runic root]

I just clad to have an aneurism about it again lmao

[tall phoenix]

#40k-book-club message

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

[runic root]

But i can tell you in all honesty to avoid anything that is gav Thorpe or Nick kyme

[ancient sierra]

I've heard Thorpe's name floating around in a largely negative light

[severe trail]

He’s world building only

That’s the good stuff in his books

Aside from that bleh

[ancient sierra]

Not a bad thing to specialize in but understandable

[severe trail]

His actual character writing is very bleh

[shy lark]

Very good small scenes imho, not so much overarching book plots and characters

[severe trail]

Kyme is just shit at writing imo

[tall phoenix]

Kyme is just bad in general

[severe trail]

But he did make the salamanders canonically racist

So uh

💀

He gets 1 point from me just for that comical bit of lore

Also which means normal racism is alive and well in 40k even if it’s

Less lol

[tall phoenix]

As I keep saying

only reason he has a job at all is because hes head editor at BL

lmao

[severe trail]

Yeah

[tall phoenix]

No.

[severe trail]

[mental cobalt]

this makes sense cause now i know why the white scars couldn't hit his ship

[tall phoenix]

Wait a minute

what End and the Deaf book are you at?

[mental cobalt]

act 3 first book

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its shown in there

I THINK? In one of the chapters at least

Gman shows up to the solar system and all their hologram detection systems can pick up is the Vengeful Spirit.

Then it pops up, then again, and again, and again etc

the entirety of the planet is essentially halfway into the Warp already

[mental cobalt]

[tall phoenix]

We're going to hell

[mental cobalt]

this has been one of the hardest books of abnett for me to read and stay focused on

i put it down too much

[tall phoenix]

I finished that shit in 2 days

this isnt a boast

lord HELP ME

[mental cobalt]

paperback or audiobook

[tall phoenix]

epub

[mental cobalt]

[tall phoenix]

It was... hard

I legit do not like these 3 books

[mental cobalt]

i can see why

it's a slog

[tall phoenix]

My consensus with them is like

• They absolutely got way too much story stuff, its overwhelming and a slog. So much of this book could be cut, but the editor Nick Kyme basically did not do his job

• It has some absolutely AMAZING scenes, descriptionary stuff and exposition; but it all gets overshadowed by Point 1

Its just a fucking mess

and i think a great example of how you must sometimes keep your author leashed and not let them get carried away

[mental cobalt]

i just wanna get through them at this point so i can start something else

like i have all his gaunt series and read the first

but imma read something else before going back to him

[tall phoenix]

Thats exactly how I fucking felt reading them. I read all each 3 of these books around the time they came out due to the fact that this was the most important event in the entirety of 40k lore.

After it was over though I was fucking glad it was over honestly

I dont think i ever had a book as mentally exhaust me as these did before

[mental cobalt]

i'll probably do the outgunned series next

[tall phoenix]

Excellent

[runic root]

I still need to finish that lost crusade black templar book

Stuck halfway...

And what the horus heresy is concerned i am at a thousand suns but ive only made it to Page 3

[pale vigil]

Any books that focus on the Eversor?

I read a shortstory that didn't make it seem like they could be actual characters

[runic root]

I think there is a horus heresy book where they play a major role

And maybe in kingmaker

[severe trail]

No eversor in kingmaker

[ancient sierra]

Ordered Fifteen Hours :p

[tall phoenix]

Its a very fun book

:)

[ancient sierra]

Is there a consistent place for getting 40k books? Every time I look up a title I see a different service

Physical books, I should clarify
I cannot commit to reading ebooks

[tall phoenix]

Not really no

its either Black Library if they got physical books or just other rexpensive non-GW sites

I always buy ebooks so uhhh good luck

[ancient sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/emojedie-gif-22495013

Paperback going from $100 new down to $20 used is criminal

[tall phoenix]

hahaha nerds

[safe plover]

id get a tablet by the 5th book the tablet would have paid for itself

you can get refurbished ones for very cheap

[ancient sierra]

What like a kindle?

[safe plover]

whatever works for your budget tbh

issue is with kindle its a bit harder to deal with books from outside of amazon or so i heard ive never owned one

i just have a basic android one

main thing to keep an eye out for is how they render

some of the E-readers take half a sec to render text

[drowsy urchin]

Finished Blood Pact, was an excellent Gaunt's Ghosts book once again

not many Ghosts books left

[tall phoenix]

Excellent

[sonic walrus]

I really enjoyed Only in Death.

[drowsy urchin]

Gah, Salvation's Reach is the first one with the original narrator instead of Toby Longworth

Suffering

This and the next one will be with unfamiliar voices 😔

[reef nacelle]

Have to figure out who's talking all over again

[sonic walrus]

Ugh yeah, the lack of Longworth is horrible.

[hybrid rose]

Are there any decent books on tau i love them but ive only heard bad things

I love love love infinite and the divine

[hybrid rose]

I should read those and ciaphas cain

[cerulean peak]

I liked Fire Warrior but it's dated

[hybrid rose]

I refuse to read any space marine books until gw becomes more fair to the other factions (never)

[hybrid rose]

Like the game tie in? Cool

[cerulean peak]

Yes the tie in book

I've heard good thing from Elemental Council

Other tau books have bad reps

[severe trail]

Elemental council

[tall phoenix]

Elemental Council 100000%

its THE most universally praised Tau book by almost all the fandom and it literally came out like a few months ago

[forest spruce]

That's on my list of books to buy

[tall phoenix]

Its really good

[severe trail]

If you don’t read elemental council

And you like Tau

YOU SHOULD READ IT NOW

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[hybrid rose]

so its good?

i was a little put off by the ugly cgi cover page tbh

[severe trail]

Yes

Read it

[hybrid rose]

yay

i wish farsight had decent books because its such a compelling character to me

[tall phoenix]

its brilliant

I LITERALLY JUST SAID ITS GOOD

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

His books are ok/good, its just that Phil Kelly does fucking nothing with them like almost all his Tau works.

[hybrid rose]

i was joking lol

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-why-you-little-gif-17376912

[hybrid rose]

i read a suggestion online that basically said that every faction should have its own creative team behind it and i agree

i find it weird how phil has such a monopoly on tau stuff

[forest spruce]

Can Denny flowers just keep writing orks because mad dok is just great

[tall phoenix]

If only 😔

[tall phoenix]

yeah its basically atm like

• Thorpe with Eldar
• Kelly with Tau
• Kyme with Salamanders

and all 3 of their products suck lol

[forest spruce]

Robert rath can just keep writing necrons

[tall phoenix]

Even the necrons he writes in Imperial-centric books are awesome like Trazyn in Fall of Cadia

[forest spruce]

I have that in my library

Maybe that'll be the thing I read next

[tall phoenix]

Excellent book also recommend it

[forest spruce]

Honestly I'm starting to run out of stuff I wanna read

[tall phoenix]

He invented the image of Trazyn wandering around Cadia during the entire invasion with a paralyzer gun deathmark sidekick like an safari ride.

its so fucking funny lol

[forest spruce]

Nahhhhhhhhhhh

[tall phoenix]

PEAK.

[forest spruce]

I need art of trayzen in a safari hat now

[tall phoenix]

its great because hes legit just scoping out shit to take back to the museum before the entire planet blows up

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-jack-black-jumanji-jumanji-movie-gif-11210057

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-crazy-loco-bryan-fellows-safari-planet-snl-gif-15341010

its SO in character

[forest spruce]

Just kinda put off by the fucking 19hr length

[tall phoenix]

Do not be

the story has a ton of POVs

it explores the entire conflict in debt, its very much not boring either

[forest spruce]

Ok ok

[tall phoenix]

It has like

[forest spruce]

I'll start it

[tall phoenix]

Abaddon, CSM, Astartes, Guardsmen, Kasrkin, Creed, etc

its super good

[severe trail]

Rath’s fall of cadia is so good

[tall phoenix]

^

[forest spruce]

Creed better drink himself into a coma

[tall phoenix]

oh man

without giving spoilers

hes literally fucking Churchill in this novel

constantly on whiskey and depressed trying to manage the war, its great

[forest spruce]

I was joking!

[tall phoenix]

too late

🥃

[forest spruce]

I have to read this now

[tall phoenix]

Yeah its super worth it

the book exactly begins with the short void war intro as the prologue pre-siege and then ends just as the planet starts to crack as everyone evacuates.

so its a perfect bow of a plot

[forest spruce]

Alright

It's installed

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

It was either this or I finally stop procrastinating and read space wolves

Dilara has elected me to keep procrastinating

[tall phoenix]

🙏

Space Wolves are mid, Rath is superior

[forest spruce]

Yeah my coworker is gonna kill me tho

[tall phoenix]

lmao welp

you can always do it later

[forest spruce]

If I die your reading my eulogy

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[quaint canopy]

"Too weak for Space Wolves. 'Nuff said."

[forest spruce]

Nahhh don't do me like that

I deserve at least a bit better

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-beg-begging-jerry-begging-jerry-begs-gif-26592079

[mental cobalt]

OKAY

i just got to the first part on the end and the death

where the custodes attack the emperor

loved it

it made him look beatable

i like that

after reading about this all powerful god, it was nice to see how much damage they were able to do to him

[tall phoenix]

People expectedly also really got mad at that scene

not as if Horus is the literal avatar of 4 primordial eldritch gods or anything puppeteering the Custodes, that would be crazy

Custodes fans I swear

[final adder]

Banana boys

[frail spruce]

@severe trail extra long rain check I know

And yhats all the t'au related stuff

And I guess this is if you're getting shot at by them

[severe trail]

Ty!!!!

[final adder]

Oh yeah the guard propaganda manual. Can it be found on the black library?

[frail spruce]

Its not propaganda

Its a self help book

It gaslights as hard as it preaches truth

Tell me this is a falsehood

[final adder]

True but also the bit about the Tau sacrificing infants to their gods is so hilariously false lmao

[brittle tapir]

isn't the official uplifting primer super hard to find in print

the black library one

[drowsy urchin]

they did a reprint last year iirc so probably not too difficult

or was it a couple years back

time is a fickle thing

[frail spruce]

Damn the magic is gone then, but every self respecting 40k enjoyer deserves a shot at an affordable reprint

[brittle tapir]

yeah ironic that the most mass produced book in the setting would be hard to find irl

[final adder]

There's one on ebay for $400 😭

[frail spruce]

At the time 20$ was considered "overkill"

[drowsy urchin]

2020 was last year right

[brittle tapir]

sure it was grandpa

[drowsy urchin]

[final adder]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[frail spruce]

2023, the best thing to happen to Warhammer

People got the vid so people say at home and painted shit in assuming, I can't imagine why else the companys growth has been so good

[severe trail]

Covid was insane lol

8e was already an insane boost

Covid just made that shit go up even harder

[forest spruce]

What the actual fuck, it's 500 dollars on amazon

Ugh dude

It's like a hundred pages what are they printing it with gold ink

[wise yew]

Souls

[forest spruce]

Souls aren't that expensive

[drowsy urchin]

second hand market do be cut throat

[sonic walrus]

They add a sliver of the emperor's armor into each copy

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/question-mario-god-filthy-frank-idubbbz-gif-21508154

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/why-fuck-annoyed-gif-12098885

[forest spruce]

This is why there's so many chaos worshippers

Not enough books to keep us loyal

[final adder]

Guilliman's tax forms

[sick axle]

To anyone that hasn't yet, read the Eisenhorn stories. Start with Xenos. Or just get the Omnibus.

But holy shit it's good.

[tall phoenix]

Everyone and their mom has read Eisenhorn dont worry

its like the most recommended beginner 40k series

[sick axle]

So good

I fuckin love how betancore is more badass than eisenhorn lowkey

That guys awesome in the xenos book

Idk if he lives or dies at some point but what a guy

[sick axle]

Got more good reccomendations?

After this I'm either reading fall of cadia or continueing dawn of fire series

But i need more like this

[tall phoenix]

Dawn of Fire is a waste of time I wouldnt highly recommend it personally

[tall phoenix]

#40k-book-club message

🫡

[forest spruce]

Do not read dawn of fire

It's so pointless

[severe trail]

There is one good book after gate of bones

Which is sea of souls

lol

[tall phoenix]

and that book is only good

because it has nothing to do with Dawn of Fire or its plot

[celest heron]

Which faction has the best books?

[severe trail]

On average? Necrons

Because they only have 3

And they’re all bangers

[tall phoenix]

^

[severe trail]

Marines and guard have on average the worst

Because hooooooly shit

There’s a lot of bad marine and guard books

Due to how many books there are

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the sheer numbers they got ironically lol

[celest heron]

What about the clowns?

[tall phoenix]

We just talked about clowns, wdym

[tall phoenix]

here

[sick axle]

Honestly the first one was a slow read for me aswell, I enjoyed the subplot with Inquisitor Rostov in Avenging Son the most, still need to start gate of bones.

[sick axle]

🙏 thanks

[frail spruce]

@viscid canyon you could mix 4 paints on that

[viscid canyon]

Yes

[pale vigil]

Mans typing like

https://tenor.com/view/nails-family-guy-long-nails-red-nails-typing-gif-14924047

Are there any books that have chaos as the 'good' guys?

Like less 'yes citizen, we shall shave you in the name of the Gods!' and more, 'Look, we killed the xenos for you, now you better saddle up and put on these chaos stars'

[severe trail]

The blood gorgons stuff

Though do note the author is also a plagiarist

As in actual plagiarism

[forest spruce]

Gate of bones is one of the better books. Wolftime is not worth it. Tomb of the martyr is eh. Throne of light is meh, rostov saves it a bit. Iron kingdom is not worth a read. Sea of souls is supposedly pretty good. Hand of abbadon is meh for what the plot should be. And the silent king is disappointing

I think I forgot one somewhere in there

I personally like wolftime but I am an outlier and I'm willing to admit that. Maybe I'll give it a relisten and see if I hate it

[reef nacelle]

I think "Renegades: Lords of Excess" has a similar plot

[pale vigil]

I thiiiink I saw something about this one? Don't the Emperor's Children land on an Imperial world and the governor is like, "Thank you for the he-Oh my God! Your face is wounded!"

And the Emps Child is just, "Nah its fine bro"

[tall phoenix]

Thats the one yeah, though it doesnt really have a chaos cultist plot thats any good

the book is also mid as hell so

[pale vigil]

Maybe I have a bias because chaos were my starting faction, buuuut 40k writers really don't know how to do anything except 'torture, murder, death' with them huh

Like the Imperium can go from Guardsmen trying to survive on some barren desert world, dealing with their own demons and regrets, to the Mechanicus playing chess with Necrons

[tall phoenix]

Its not really bias its pretty much the truth.

Chaos characters can have nuance but its few and far between and only on like pretty old books ala Night Lords or the Word Bearers series. The Imperium's guard/marine books have the advantage of the author showing their dumb hero bias and making them be the rare exceptions or good guys so the reader can relate and sympathise with them lol

[pale vigil]

Iunno

Like the Warp is supposed to be humanity's dreams made manifest, be they good or bad ones, and each of the Chaos Gods represent things that aren't just murder, rot, betrayal and lust

[tall phoenix]

I mean no

Chaos is great because they are evil

[pale vigil]

I mean yeh

But like

[tall phoenix]

you can love watching/reading awful people, fiction and media has proven it many times

[pale vigil]

Varity

[tall phoenix]

its just that like i said the authors dont bother

for example Trazyn is a fucking awful person

yet his book is hilarious because its nothing but black comedy

its great lol

[pale vigil]

Iunno, I think I want a story where the MC's fall to Chaos is objectively a good thing for him

[tall phoenix]

Nothing to "Iunno" about

authors dont bother

simple as

Im not saying you are wrong, its more that the lack of effort from BL means we cant do much but just sit and wait lol

[pale vigil]

Over 300 hours of black library and no ones written a story where Khorne helps a guardsmen bust in an Orc's face

Or like, Slaanesh helps a guy be a better painter

[tall phoenix]

Those exist, they are just buried in rulebooks or marineslop novels as minor chapters

This is why AOS/WHF are great, they explore this stuff in way more depth without any astartes to shoehorn into every single novel as a selling point

[sonic walrus]

Trazyn, person? HERESY!

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-cat-cat-my-honest-reaction-cat-with-the-hat-cat-in-the-hat-gif-25359607

[runic root]

I think imma buy myself an epub
Or two

Thinking about the dreadnaught pov short story

And maybe another book

Suggestions?

[tall phoenix]

Harrowmaster

[forest spruce]

I agree harrowmaster

[runic root]

Too late. Already was on my way to work . But i'll put it on the list

I am Alpharius. Legion was good.

[runic root]

100 Points for slytherin 🐍

[sonic walrus]

Sounds good to me boss. Anything to get away from dawn of fire at this point.

[runic root]

Black Library - Space Marine: Terminators (eBook) https://share.google/a5KITQTXtAGBGLeO3

Well, i was in the mood for bolterporn so i got:

And i also got:

Black Library - The Vengeful Dead (eShort) https://share.google/IQTZD9Xp1b0qK7j4o

[runic root]

Still have a few to go

[sonic walrus]

Ooo, scary they are remaking the Anathame

[runic root]

Sea of souls, Hand of abbadon and the silent king. Thats all the Shit i still need

[sonic walrus]

An on book 8 atm and it's dragging

Yea hand of Abaddon

[runic root]

I have everything up to Iron Kingdom as Paperback. First i was a bit upset i dont have every single one physically but with limited shalfspace and judging how mid they are its alright.

E pub it is

[sonic walrus]

Aye

For the best

[runic root]

Btw how is your three legged void doing?

[sonic walrus]

He's good. Since we were able to remove his shirt recently he's been having zoomies almost non-stop.

He's either eating or using the litter box ATM I think.

[runic root]

Living his best life. Give him lotsa pets from me

Black Library - The Vengeful Dead (eShort)

Ok, mini review for the archives

Short, but decent. White dwarf worthy.

Predictable but satisfying ending. Fuck the nightlords

Decent bolterporn.

[tall phoenix]

Your loss boss 🫡

[tall phoenix]

You'd be doing yourself a massive favor

[sonic walrus]

You're telling me

[runic root]

Calm down mam, i'll get to it eventually

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/snoopy-peanuts-snoopy-and-woodstock-woodstock-sleeping-gif-5626093381530208276

[runic root]

With the void on your lap?

[sonic walrus]

Cat came to bed finally, he is laying his head on my hand atm ❤️

[tall phoenix]

Already calm so not sure what that means

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-review-rabbit-review-bnuuy-kitty-review-bunnies-gif-13849441992726357962

[forest spruce]

Yeahhhhhh I doubt it goes literally anywhere

Hand of abbadon was such a drag

[mental cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-gate-fall-bunny-gate-fall-gif-17120893162149303529

[vale wren]

what a moron ahahaha

[mental cobalt]

It would be cool if the Emperor allowed Valdor to draw his blood with the spear he gave him

[sharp flume]

reading my first 40k book and its spiral dawn, enjoyed the blurb before chapter 1 so far. Im guessing sisters of battle were trying and failing to fend off an attack from genestealer main strains that had been able to breach the defences thanks to brainwashed traitors that had opened the gates letting in heretic hordes to add pressure

[tall phoenix]

Pretty much yeah, Spiral Dawn is a pretty interesting book

[sonic walrus]

I feel like that would either kill valdor, drive him entirely insane, or put him in a permanent coma.

[cerulean peak]

It's a great book. If you end up liking it and want more genestealer stuff there is the book "Day of Ascension" that's a good read

[final adder]

It may start off as a good thing for the person but it always ends up the same

Chaos gives nothing but false promises disguised as blessings

[sick axle]

the emperor protects...

[pale vigil]

I know official lore has taken the concept of the Chaos Gods being anything but horrible and shot it behind the shed, but like, they should be neutral.

Khorne is violence and blood as much as he is honour and courage, Nurgle is rebirth as much as decay

Nurgle is, honestly, the only one of the Chaos Gods who's shtick is treated with any sort of 'Oh yeh, that'd be good for someone!"

Like literally he's called 'Grandfather' and just wants all his kids to be happy, its just that he also wants your intestines hanging out and covered in sores.

No writer has managed to strike that balance with any of the other Gods

[sharp flume]

My friend knew I love gemestealers so gifted me spiral dawn and this. I didn't know which to start with so I just chose one

[sick axle]

Awesome

[unreal wren]

[wintry blade]

Lemme guess, is that just a short story?

Any good 40K books lately?

[runic root]

Ive been told anything by Nick kyme and gav Thorpe is usually great

[wintry blade]

Unfortunately I’ve read nearly all of their books

[final adder]

That's the thing, they were never neutral in the first place. Its likely that the first 3 were created because of the war in heaven. The positive traits and emotions they represent are what the warp itself had covered already before their creation. And Nurgle's "love" is more conditional and abusive than you think. He likely does care about his daemonic followers, but for everyone else its basically like "accept my gifts without question and do my bidding for the rest of time or I'll cast you aside and find a replacement."

The chaos gods represent the very worst of every sentient race in the galaxy

[tall phoenix]

Yeah also the entire thing of Chaos Gods having "good aspects" is nonsense Warhammer Fantasy lore whos source is also from the mouth of a literal chaos cultist.

40k lore somewhat goes into these but these "good aspects" can never last even if you are a chaos marine or a normal human champion, you will fall to madness and being evil eventually

[severe trail]

Cult of the spiral dawn is an actual book

[severe trail]

Me when the half starved insane chaos shaman tells me Nurgle is actually a good thing and encourages growth as his eye literally rots from his skull

[wintry blade]

I know, I’ve read it, I just didn’t know about the book that was posted

[cerulean peak]

a litteral chaos cultist

I'd trust that man

||chaos gods have done more for their followers than the Emperor||

as for Fantasy/AoS I wouldn't know. I guess it's either Nagash or Chaos at this point

[storm kettle]

Do raven guard and white scars have good books? Always thought they were cool but I don’t really ever hear much about them

[wise yew]

Chaos gods are evil in there too

[storm kettle]

Erm, actually the chaos gods are heckin misunderstood and nurgle loves us

[reef nacelle]

Raven Guard aren't great books, ok if you want to brush up on chapter lore & vibes though.

White scars books are generally well regarded as far as I'm aware but I haven't read any yet

[severe trail]

White scars have good books, I’d say none of their books are bad.

Raven guard books are decent aside from heresy which are a cointoss

[fringe thorn]

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[severe trail]

New Scion book good

[tall phoenix]

Tell spoilers in censors

I wanna know how it is

🗿

[severe trail]

I’m not done with it yet

[tall phoenix]

bastard

[severe trail]

I’m like 50% done

[tall phoenix]

so whats the premise

chaos?

[severe trail]

||Civil war that was a stalemate with iron warriors helping the traitors break the stalemate and are trying to corrupt the traitors as well, scions get called in to make it back in imperial like, favor||

[tall phoenix]

OOOOH

Yeah okay i heard of this premise

||another rebellion story ruined lol||

[severe trail]

||the iron warriors wanband are actually like, not comically evil and playing “nice” so to speak because they want to use the rebels existing infrastructure and stuff and have an actual army.||

Anyways the book is like

Good so far, it’s a war story

But it’s not like bolter porn

[tall phoenix]

boooo

🗣️

anyway yeah ill buy and read it later

[severe trail]

lol

Oh also the scions are like

Super tacticool the best scions black ops shit

[tall phoenix]

Does it go into like

how fucked up becoming a Scion is

I assume so lmao

[severe trail]

It def uh

Dissects their psychology lol

And how they mentally end up that way

[tall phoenix]

So basically IRL spec ops operatives

aka total psychopaths

checks out

[severe trail]

Yeeep

The rebel general and guard rebels are interesting in general imo

[tall phoenix]

Id say thats good but will need to see if the Scions actually win in the end or not

[severe trail]

Idk I’m having a good time so far

I haven’t finished the book uet

[tall phoenix]

I know dingus

[severe trail]

So maybe it fucking implodes in the last 1/3rd

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

remember Longshot

💀

[severe trail]

God

Please god no

Do not let it go to shit in the final stretch

[tall phoenix]

Ive legit

never seen a book fail so hard RIGHT AT THE LITERAL FINALE

[severe trail]

Long shot is literally ruined

By the last like

20 pages

[tall phoenix]

you can almost tell the author was forced to likely edit that ending in

[severe trail]

Of the book

[tall phoenix]

"Tau use conscripts??? Clearly they are evil."

mfer YOU LITERALLY USE CONSCRIPTS YOURSELF IN THE BOOK

[severe trail]

But yeah so far I like it