40k-book-club

[digital saffron]

Just ask @severe trail this guy

He's Crime glazer #1

So he'll probably know which ones are good

[reef nacelle]

All of the crime novels

[forest spruce]

Just finished silent king

It's alright I guess

Just feels a bit weird since like over half the book isn't even about the necrons

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that seems to be consensus lol

its also because by the time we got to this part IRL it has reached a point of "who gives a shit about this plotline anymore"

[forest spruce]

Yeah because like we've already seen so much after this point

Like the great work and the plague wars are after this in the timeline

There was really no tension

[tall phoenix]

Pretty much, like even any setup they did in this is like

"WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS DUDE"

[forest spruce]

Still was nice to read more about cawl

He's such a fucking character

[tall phoenix]

yeah Cawl is always fun, he embraces his comic book-iness more than most lol

[forest spruce]

Him choosing the wrong personality was funny af to me

[tall phoenix]

equilavent of sending the wrong gif to the wrong DM

[forest spruce]

Yesss

Welp

Probably time to start void exile

[wise yew]

Cawl using personality J with group B

[tall phoenix]

its funny because techpriests can actually DM each other

[forest spruce]

I can imagine two tech priests sending memes back and forth

[tall phoenix]

Im 99% sure Trazyn does something to that equilavent to Orikan in Infinite/Divine

[vale wren]

that's all they do, all day

[forest spruce]

Interrupting orikans meditation with images of sarek sitting on a whopping cudhion

[tall phoenix]

[deft bramble]

me with terminal overkill/ravenor

[mental cobalt]

me with penitent bequin

i'm sorry but once they introduced the immaterial college, i couldn't stop reading

[tall phoenix]

Im about to start reading Void King and then re-reading the 3 Blackstone Fortress novels man I hope they are good

[hybrid turtle]

tbh i didnt think much of void king

main characters were pretty fun though

[vale wren]

if any of you utter any spoilers i'm gonna put you in a daemonculaba

[tall phoenix]

I heard as much being a mid book

thats a bit sad to hear lol

rogue traders got like jackshit for novels

[hybrid turtle]

horus kills sanguinius

[vale wren]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-plink-cat-meow-gif-27396868

[hybrid turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-meme-silly-cat-gif-4266327784702766845

still not a bad story though just not particularly impressive

[tall phoenix]

yeah sounds about right

any spoilers you can tell me in black bars

[hybrid turtle]

go rogue go broke

[tall phoenix]

Aight nvm asked my friend

the twist in it is very dumb but lol ill live with it

[hybrid turtle]

yeahhh pretty overused

[tall phoenix]

yeah ugh

anyway fuck it ill read it, got it downloaded already

[hybrid turtle]

I like how the traders actually join the troopers in the fights

Theres a viking/warrior type rogue trader shes pretty cool

[shy lark]

ach

I really wanted to like Void King

[tall phoenix]

Whats bad about it

[shy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/no-spoilers-no-fighting-spoiler-spoilers-peaky-gif-14168194

[tall phoenix]

okay ill ask my friend as well

[shy lark]

Nothing particularly bad though tbh, it was okay I just didn't really like it either

[forest spruce]

Oh boy I wonder who this inquistor is that they are redacting from void exile incredible amount of sarcasm

[tall phoenix]

Its Rannick!!!

[forest spruce]

Why'd they even bother redacting it

Like anybody who read the last two books knows who it is

[tall phoenix]

honestly I got no idea lol

still funny

[runic root]

@tall phoenix forgive the Intrusion pls, but given that youve read pretty much everything BL has produced in recent decades,

Is the Leontus, Lord Solar book by Rob Young any good (the red little anthology book)

Or alternatively, can you recommend the space wolves Omnibus, the saga of the great Hawk by Chris wraight?

Oh, also the bookstore i am at carries Void elves/exiles of the void by Robbie mcniven

Same question. Any good?

[tall phoenix]

OH MAN

Okay so I got an entire reddit thread saved for this

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1icgtba/nospoiler_book_review_leontus_lord_solar/

This is a really good review of it.

But if you want TLDR: Im gonna say its simply mid. It barely explores Leontus as a character and its just some weird disconnected book regarding him leading a bunch of popular posterboy regiments against orks. They take all the grandeour of him being a LORD SOLAR and just reduce him to essentially a generic Imperial commander.

What people/me kinda wanted was something akin t othe old Macharius series where you actually see him strategize, talk with his warcouncil, plan mass invasions/defenses against the Nids in the 4th Tyrannic War etc, yet none of that is here.

This comment sums up my emotions really well.

You buy a Lord Solar book and get nothing about him being a Lord Solar.

[lofty thunder]

Doesn’t he have like actual saint magic or something that isn’t expressed

[shy lark]

typical novel named after character who barely shows up in it, classic BL

[tall phoenix]

Uhhh he basically just has a really competent seer council

[tall phoenix]

^^^^^^^^^^

Angron, Fulgrim, Leontus, who else lol

[runic root]

Ok, thank you, i'll read it later. If you were me, and money is no factor here, would you buy Leontus, or the saga of the great hawk or the space sharks book (void elves) ?

I can only buy one

I am equally interested in all 3

[shy lark]

Vahl is in like 1/3 of the titled Morven Vahl Spear of Faith or something, wack

[tall phoenix]

whats Saga of the Great Hawk? White Scars book?

[runic root]

Space wolf trillogy

[tall phoenix]

Is this what you mean?

[shy lark]

oh it's called legends of the wolf in english afaik

[tall phoenix]

AH

Id say buy that one

[shy lark]

You can't go wrong with Chris Wraight

[tall phoenix]

Space Wolf stories are generally mindless fun

[runic root]

Better than the sharks and leomtis?

[tall phoenix]

Leontus is simply a waste of money

Void Exiles is Eh

here you get 3 novels

[runic root]

Aight, i'll have it. Space wolfs it is

Wolf Lord Rho would be proud

[tall phoenix]

Here are the contents if you want some more info, theres some fun plots in here, you just gotta be prepared for Space Wolf Wolfening.

[shy lark]

I recall liking Stormcaller which is in the omnibus, I think. Either way if you're interested why not

[reef nacelle]

As an example of their shenanigans, the space wolves race some Orks in one of the Ragnar books

[tall phoenix]

Its much better than buying a Mid Space Marine/Guard book

[tall phoenix]

the Ragnar books are extremely old but one of my favs

[runic root]

Mortarions stinky Boys getting a good kicking is always good in my eyes

[runic root]

Txs

I'll have it

[reef nacelle]

Them and the ventris novels hold up really well

[shy lark]

I remember the author of the carcharodons novels beefing with people on tumblr it was wild, maybe I should read them in spite of that

[tall phoenix]

Wait what

why would he do that lmao

[shy lark]

Something about him being English and the Irish I forget

[tall phoenix]

Bruh LOL

[shy lark]

It was weird so I never read them, for some reason

[tall phoenix]

The novels are fine i think

i found them a bit overrated

[shy lark]

He deleted the blog, I can't find the posts anymore

[tall phoenix]

Coward.

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-norman-osborn-osborn-spider-man-mask-gif-24772759

[reef nacelle]

The Irish? Upset at the English?

Never

I don't believe it

[tall phoenix]

🔑 Your car keys sir

[runic root]

The sextouple Ventris books i kinda have.

My dad bought the eBooks, let calibre format them to dinA4 and printed them with his Industrial printer (He has a buisness) and then bound them with staples

[runic root]

Ah, the age old lovestory... Irish and english

[runic root]

Dilara being in (turkish) character is see. From Istanbul, with love.

[tall phoenix]

I mean uhh yes of course its Turkish totally yes

[wise yew]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-man-angry-out-of-car-meme-fast-am-talking-gif-17285849

[runic root]

Serious question, can you even write the space wolves in a mindful, serious, deeply philosophical manner and it still be good?

From my limited understanding their entire existence is predicated on that gung ho, slightly furry, carefree viking personality, thus mindles fun (looking especially at you, Lukas the trickster 👀)

[tall phoenix]

My philosophy is you can write ANY topic and ANY subject in a mindful, serious or philosophical manner and still be good.

Theres no bad/impossible subjects.

Theres simply middling or bad writers.

Im not the biggest SW fan but they simply just suffer from too many dumb gimmicks in a box.

[wise yew]

Even with orks

the grotsnik book it's a good example of that

the new one is surprisingly deep for an ork book

[tall phoenix]

Yeah or Brutal and Kunning, I remember way back when people were like "you cant write a book about orks they are too simplistic" or some other shit.

Then Brutal Kunning came out and everyone praised it.

the double-standards of this fandom is crazy

[wise yew]

yeah then Grotsnik come out and the questions about well identity and stuff

why do you do what you do

Genuinely awesome

[tall phoenix]

yep lol

[runic root]

I would love to see a novel where a custode gripes at a serious level about his identity in a spiritual and philosophical manner

I just dont know If their lore allows them to

I remember Constantin Valdors conversation with the "primarch" of the Thunder warriors. They feel nothing.

[tall phoenix]

Nevermind the lore on that.

It says Custodians are like bricks personality wise yet every novel we see them in has them show a lot of emotions.

Some are comedians, some are stoic, some are assholes, etc

[tall phoenix]

Also

[shy lark]

Ulfar in Rogue Trader was fairly serious, even seemed to do semi proper skaldic rhyming iirc

or old norse poetic metre, whatever you want to call it

[forest spruce]

Somebody designed kolqan to be an asshole

[runic root]

That Guy that lost a duel to Garro was such an insufferable prick lmao

Same with the guy from the dawn of fire series who hates Guilliman. Such a douche

[runic root]

Barely remember reading that. Was that the one where the custodes was killed by a harbinger mini knight?

[runic root]

Ah, yes, i remember that

[tall phoenix]

thats Iron Kingdom 💀

[runic root]

They all blurr together in my mind

I stopped reading after martyrs tomb

[mental cobalt]

i just got one hell of a deal ☺️

[safe plover]

do they sell bananas too?

[mental cobalt]

[runic root]

Lucky son of a gungan. Congrats 🤝

[runic root]

Clads DnD alignment: sarcastic neutral

[final adder]

Loving the Ciaphas Cain omnibus so far. Dude maxed out charisma.

Lmfao

[final adder]

Real

[mellow knot]

Not 40k, but my next novel got announced at GenCon the other day ❤️

[drowsy urchin]

Hell yeah

[safe plover]

i read this as edge of tomorrow

then as enders game

[mellow knot]

Hah, nope, neither of those! 🙂

[tight wind]

Guy called Thunder needs to stop gooning

[wise yew]

OK I need to check out this twilight imperium stuff because this is some fire faction art

[brittle tapir]

it says imperium on the title so it's 40k related

[brittle tapir]

i thought that said nekko virus

[wide mica]

We all see what we want to see

I thought it said Neeko

[unborn merlin]

Honestly wild, good find.

[mellow knot]

BOO HISS NEKRO VIRUS BOO

One of the best board games I've ever played, but it's not for casual playing. Our last game came in at about ... 12 hours, I think?

[wise yew]

What race were you using

[mellow knot]

In that game? I was playing the Xxcha.

[wise yew]

Oh the turtle look alikes

I will admit the art for the factions go hard

[mellow knot]

There is some gorgeous artwork

[wise yew]

yeah and it seems to have plenty of books to read too I might grab some

[vale wren]

Wait twilight imperium has books about it?

[wise yew]

apparently yeah

[vale wren]

Figures I suppose

Reading through one of those books will probably be faster than playing 1 game of it

[wise yew]

here's some I'm not sure if there is more though

[mellow knot]

I have a short story in the Starts Beyond (that's an anthology, so might be a good drop-in spot)

[quaint canopy]

I can't believe Dan Abnett reused the "prisoner escapes because of doctor" in Ravenor Returned 🥴

[forest spruce]

Reading void exile has hit me with a strange pang of sadness.

[forest spruce]

||My boy bail shar being exiled like this hurts me in my soul||

[uneven crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377513148850110464/1401287301874585793/FB_IMG_1754162007267.jpg?ex=688fb9ff&is=688e687f&hm=c4f580d5807ee1b4e84592dd789c70fdad9d61f2d08859f6617b510920d614f8&

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

[safe plover]

me frfr

[uneven crane]

Yeah lmao

[safe plover]

wait lemme make a list of what i think is good
horus rising>false gods>galaxy in flames>flight>fulgrim>1k sons/burns>know no fear chronologically until betrayer>desent of the angels>vulkan lives>burried dagger>master of mankind>echos of eternity

[final adder]

She actually did like a few of them lol

LMAO

[safe plover]

wait until you get to mira

im not sure if i like her or hate her

also you have to read her lines with a very heavy lithp

[celest heron]

Vail probably didnt like her...

So makes sense she would want you to not like her

[safe plover]

i have similar feelings to cain himself sometimes shes nice sometimes she does great in a battlefield

but i FUCKING hate her aristocratic ass sometimes

also shes mean to my boy jurgen

im hoping when i get to the last book they reveal ||that jurgen wasnt a blank but he just smelled so bad that daemons and psykers malfunctioned around him||

[celest heron]

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-smell-gif-20892754

[mental cobalt]

i hate how abnett labels chapters in the end and the death

[tall phoenix]

its extremely wonky lol

[mental cobalt]

WHY CAN'T HE BE NORMAL

[tall phoenix]

[unborn merlin]

You forgot Legion.

[tall phoenix]

Got his ass

[unborn merlin]

[wise yew]

Citrus Primarch with the game-winning body shot

[unborn merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gcw-black-taurus-lucha-libre-lucha-taurus-gif-26778971

[safe plover]

0/10 rage bait

[safe plover]

2/10 rage bait

[tall phoenix]

Its called having taste

get out

🗣️

[safe plover]

-1/10

[tall phoenix]

your takes? Yes

[south parrot]

im currently reading Warlord: Fury of the God-Machine by David Annandale in the god-machines omnibus 👍

[safe plover]

how do you like it so far?

[sonic walrus]

Almost done with gaunts ghosts. Anthologies are the only thing left.

[south parrot]

Im really enjoying it so far ive got about 30 pages left

I like how it gives a broader view of a god-machine unit like in Imperator: Wrath of the Omnissiah (the first book in the omnibus), it focuses more on the inner workings of a single titan, and you don't really get a sense of how the titans work together or what unit-scale operations look like.

I also really like how we get so many povs, like Krezoc, Syagrius, Ornastas, Deyers, so you see the war from the god-machine level, from the ground troops/tanks and from the normal people just trying to survive and who had to take up arms and fight

[reef nacelle]

Ah, Classic 40k numbers

Reading Storm of Iron and they're hyping up this "massive" ship

2000m long

So about the size of an Imperial Light Cruiser

[tall phoenix]

2000m

send the author to the dungeon

[reef nacelle]

Graham McNeill

The guy who wrote the Forges of Mars trilogy

Featuring the Speranza

Come on, my guy

[tall phoenix]

[lofty thunder]

Not 40k but like

Ooouuugg

It’s so pretty

[south parrot]

👏 illustrator name on the front cover

[runic root]

Numbers are for engineers

Authors just have fun

[reef nacelle]

They're the ones trying to impress me with a puny little ship

[runic root]

Fair enough

[old grove]

I just wanna say this to whoever told me the wolf time was a bad book

You were so right

I should've listened

I'm so sorry

This shit is so ass, I think I found my least favourite 40k author

Anyways I'm gonna go wolf wolf my fucking wolf wolfing my wolf wolf now

[cerulean peak]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-alone-gif-11375996495065887435

[forest spruce]

I really am the 1 percent of people who like wolftime

[severe trail]

Bro got wolftimed

[severe trail]

Don’t worry you’re not the only one who likes it

I know one other person

[tall phoenix]

WHY DO YOU PEOPLE DO THIS

FORGIVE THEM LORD

THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DO

https://tenor.com/view/praying-gif-15715313732642844801

but also yeah Gav Thorpe's novels are just "Let me take this faction's gimmick im writing for and make it nothing but that constantly for 300 pages."

[severe trail]

Sometimes he avoids it

1% of the time

[tall phoenix]

GETOU-

[severe trail]

[forest spruce]

I think wolftime would be a decent standalone book but as is being in dawn of fire is so stupid, like why is it even there

[runic root]

Funniest thing about wolftime was a primaris space Wolf named G A I U S

Because nothing says Valka Fenryka like a roman name commonly used by the ultrasmurfs

Thorpe, please retire

[forest spruce]

You do realize that was the point right?

[tall phoenix]

No.

Perish.

[forest spruce]

That he was basically an outsider and that when he finally proved himself and was accepted he changed his name to be more wolfy

[runic root]

The point was cringe

[runic root]

Could have easily done that without the not so subtle name.....

[forest spruce]

Sir do you know what franchise this is?

Subtlety isn't exactly Warhammer forte

[tall phoenix]

Okay but like

theres a fucking limit

to the stupidity lol

You cannot get away with everything in warhammer by just saying "its fine the entire setting is silly"

[forest spruce]

I mean yeah I'm not saying it's the best book but there is a reason for it

[tall phoenix]

The reason is the book is TRASH.

[runic root]

There is a difference between subtletey done in a humorous manner and the steaming, impudent and insolent gobbet of puss and excrement Thorpe usually writes

[forest spruce]

I think it's an alright book and had some funny moments, sure it's unsubtle and has some dumb moments. However it is not some stupid bolter porn book like most of dawn of fire. It tells a story of proving one's self.

Definitely better than half the other dawn of fire books I read

[runic root]

I am with you. I like it. Its hilarious. Hilariously bad

I enjoy it like i would a monty Python version of 40k.

But its still bad.

Just like the author

[runic root]

Clad level take deteced

[forest spruce]

What?

[runic root]

[forest spruce]

Y'all just don't like gav

Which honestly I can kinda get behind some authors just are not my cup of tea

[mellow knot]

An opportunity to share the cover for next book without the context of the rest of the announcement.

[mellow knot]

It’s so pretty ❤️

[tall phoenix]

Very nice!

almost Dune-esque 👀

[cerulean peak]

there's twilight imperium books?!

I only know the board game

[mellow knot]

Quite a few!

https://www.aconytebooks.com/?worlds=twilight-imperium

[south parrot]

I finished reading Warlord: Fury of the God-Machine by David Annandale 👍

[main flax]

is the book a club

or the club a book

[safe plover]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-cat-car-cat-meme-cats-gif-13549128190129307854

[main flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1079706090448637993/windex.gif

[final adder]

WHAT the tyranids?!

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/die-spongebob-meme-gif-754776035690869996

[final adder]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

Can't catch me

[hybrid turtle]

Finished ahriman 4 and 5

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[runic root]

I am still at 3

For 4 and 5 i'll wait till 6 comes out and they release the omnibus

Although i dont know what to make of ahriman as a character.... Which is probably an accurate depiction of how he feels about himself

Mr. "I turned half my legion into armed ashtrays" 💀🚬

aLl iS dUsT.....

[hybrid turtle]

evil wizard archetype

i love him though

[tall phoenix]

Basically memes aside

Depressed villain that just accepts his role as the cartoon villain

it doesnt help that we exactly know where his journey is gonna end up + how Ahriman acts in current 40k

so any nuance they add to his character is kinda meaningless in the grand scope of things

[frigid osprey]

fabius bile is my husbando

[tall phoenix]

yeah hes gonna breed you good alright

with uh his "New Men"

[frigid osprey]

[runic root]

Would he sexually cheat on you? No

Would he steal and replace your kidneys without your consent? You betcha

[frigid osprey]

Fabius no....

[runic root]

I want him to permanently cure his Legion.... But there are no happy endings in 40k 😂😂😂

[tall phoenix]

Tbh like

why would he even do it lol

OH WAIT YOU MEAN AHRIMAN

i was like "Why the fuck would Bile give a shit"

[runic root]

Yeah, lol, If anything, bile would make shit worse just to see what happens

[tall phoenix]

Tbh its not even happy endings its just

Rubric marines exist on tabletop
Nobody is gonna remove them

[runic root]

[tall phoenix]

also he actually does go to a timeline where the rubric succeeds dont ask long story

and he realises it just causes way too many paracausal awful events

aka classic time travel excuse bullshit

so he just reverts it and keeps it as is

just... ????

[runic root]

What book does that happen in?

[tall phoenix]

I THINK the last one? I legit cannot remember, not like this is a spoiler since we know he cant fix the Rubric but eh

[runic root]

Ive only read the first two of his first omnibus

[runic root]

Five or six?

[runic root]

He cant but yvraine can lol

Throwaway line lore but super funny because HUGE DISRESPECT LOL

[tall phoenix]

Yvraine has a literal god on her side so that checks out

Ahriman has one too but Tzeentch likes trolling

[tall phoenix]

Im legit not sure

[runic root]

Doesnt make it any les funny

[tall phoenix]

the ahriman books get really weird

so i keep mixing what book is what

I THINK it was Unchanged, not 100%

[wise yew]

if i had a nickel every time an elf in a warhammer setting just dapped up a chaos guy and cured them of their disease I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice

[runic root]

Imagine devoting your Life to fix your fuckup only for an Alien to do it right before your eyes but then revert it back as a Powerplay ON THE FLY MID BATTLE

[runic root]

When's the second time?

[hybrid turtle]

ahriman eternal and undying are basically a two part story

[runic root]

But book six is out yes?

Last release i noticed was eternus

[wise yew]

when alariel in warhammer fantasy touch the chaos champion of slannesh and straight up just purified the guy of all chaos

straight up uncorrupted the guy

With a single touch

[hybrid turtle]

think its only 5 so far

[tall phoenix]

I legit dont know, I kinda lost track with Ahriman

yeah that

i kinda stopped because all the stories take place in like M35 or so

[runic root]

Lol what happened after and where can i. Read?

[hybrid turtle]

undying came out in 2024

but theres a setup to go after the eldar in the next book

[tall phoenix]

Add it to the Night Lords plothook with Eldar/Ulthwe

(it went nowhere)

[wise yew]

Sons of Ellyrion i think

[forest spruce]

Plothooks never go anywhere

[tall phoenix]

As ever lol

[hybrid turtle]

when did that happen again? i dont remember

[forest spruce]

Cannot believe how much of a 40k cynical youve turned me into dilara. I used to have hope for 40k stories but now that I've watched the dumbest plotlines to exist I have no hope for 40k to progress

[tall phoenix]

Final book regarding some shit about how they are gonna assault Ulthwe for the 13th Crusade or some shit iirc.

[tall phoenix]

Honestly thats the trick, I just read books I THINK/hope will have fun plot hooks without any larger narratives, good 40k books will always exist as much as meaningless dumb ones that go nowhere.

You can still have a plot that ends up with the mcguffin being destroyed or the narrative being a dead end and STILL have a fun story, its why I like shit like Kingmaker so much.

[forest spruce]

Kingmaker is peak I've read it thrice

[tall phoenix]

Based, yeah that book works because its essentially a fun knight book

the plot is fun, the characters are fun, the entire journey is simply entertaining

it doesnt wallow in misery or has any melodrama lol

[wise yew]

You have more of those fun knight books

[forest spruce]

Kingmaker is what made me decide on my oc being a knight pilot

[tall phoenix]

nope

[tall phoenix]

extremely based

Knight lore in general is very good/fun

[wise yew]

they are giant robots that go around stomping things that is like one of the rawest forms of cool

[forest spruce]

Being able to now see the subtle corruption of the houses on a second read through is great

[tall phoenix]

the plot twist is still very sudden but the book is so good that I couldnt care less about it lol

[forest spruce]

Speaking of dumb plotlines is the space wolf saga any good. My coworker swears that it's great

[tall phoenix]

Which one is it, can you post pics

they got like 4 omnibuses

[tall phoenix]

OOOH william king's ones

those are from like 1999-2005

it explains how Ragnar Blackmane becomes one of them, I remember liking em a lot even with the simplistic formula, King is a pretty good author

[forest spruce]

Good

Cause that's probably what I'm doing next after void exile

[tall phoenix]

yeah its over 25 years old but still a good book

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Wolf_(Novel_Series)

[forest spruce]

It's wolfing time

[tall phoenix]

Heres the summary of all the novels as well

Wolfblade is prob my favorite, the others minus Space Wolf are kinda whatever

[forest spruce]

As long as it's better than fucking hand of abbadon

[runic root]

Wolf Wolf Wolf Wolf 🐺🐺🐺

Woff

[runic root]

Currently at book 3 of that spacewolf book trillogy ive bought

The baldr psyker subplot confuses me

[oak pollen]

watch the TTS short where they talk about the space wolves and take a shot every time they say the word wolf, do not do this it will kill you and or your liver

[tall phoenix]

the fact that nothing in that video is even a joke is what hurts me tbh

[oak pollen]

yeah

[forest spruce]

Got a fifth, bet

[oak pollen]

please be joking, its said like almost 100 times if not over 100 in the span of like a 2 or 3 min long video

[tall phoenix]

[forest spruce]

I'm not actually gonna do it guys

But I did happen to get a bottle from a coworker so I am gonna be imbibing

I'm not a space wolf I have mortal organs

[runic root]

Alcohol poisoning is a rite of passage ive heared lol

[forest spruce]

Had that a few weeks ago, didn't remember the entire night

Get me my bloodclaw marking

[forest spruce]

Dilara wtf

[tall phoenix]

🫡

[forest spruce]

Crazy behavior

[tall phoenix]

Mike Brooks propaganda will be spread

[forest spruce]

Is that book good?

I'm sure it is cause Brooks

[tall phoenix]

Its really fun yeah id recommend it

I was wary going into it because Navigators are an interesting choice as protags but id 100% say read it its very entertaining.

The main protagonist is the lady on the right sitting on the armrest whos a grumpy old woman who beats people that annoy her with her cane lmao

[forest spruce]

Good they probably deserve it

[tall phoenix]

100

🫡

[sonic walrus]

ugh, finished gaunts ghosts, not sure what to listen to next

[mental cobalt]

eisenhorn

[sonic walrus]

been there done that, 3 times

[mental cobalt]

assassinorum kingmaker

it's kino

🤌🏻

[severe trail]

Real

[sonic walrus]

so far, eisenhorn (including the most recent book), ravenor, bequin, gaunts ghosts, the entire horus heresy, and a bunch of other stuff

[mental cobalt]

well if you've done the horus heresy then do siege of terra

[shy lark]

15 Hours or bust

[sonic walrus]

i mean ive read EVERY book, heresy, seige of terra, even the new anothology that just released and the 4 web releases they did

[severe trail]

Assasinorum Kingmaker

Do it

It’s good I prolise

[mental cobalt]

it's best

[sonic walrus]

ahh yea, i liked the fall of cadia

[shy lark]

Kingmaker is quite good

[mental cobalt]

then do the denny flowers books

the flight ones at least

[sonic walrus]

i read above and beyond, i guess i should have done outgunned first lol

[runic root]

Not what i meant but i get the hint lol. I'll read it eventually

[tall phoenix]

Lmao dude

thats like watching Empire Strikes Back before New Hope

you literally have zero context for everything

even reading that hurt me

[sonic walrus]

I blame someone on here for talking about it.

[tall phoenix]

Lmao if its me I repeatedly posted/mentioned its a chronological series

so im not taking any blames

[sonic walrus]

It's probably my fault anyway.

It's a 40k novel so there are probably a dozen books in the series. At least that's what I should assume.

[tall phoenix]

In its case its just 2 novels 3 Short stories (with only two of them being actually plot relevant)

You basically read the last book in the "series" essentially

[oak pollen]

the cover art is literally just a ww2 recruitment poster lol

[runic root]

Imma start people getting into Star wars that that is the correct order

[runic root]

As If you ever would

[tall phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-sopranos-somebody-speaking-sopranos-speaking-gif-26441246

[tall phoenix]

Yeah the main character is a propagandist so that checks out lol

[sonic walrus]

Probably starting outgunned tomorrow. Need a quick memory wipe before hand though.

Anyone got a shovel? I think this might work.

[wide mica]

Last book so far

[runic root]

Japan after WW 2 be like in regards to warcrimeallegations lmao

[mental cobalt]

you should pin this tbh

[tall phoenix]

Lmao i dont think theres any need for it, not a lot of people here would read these 2 books + shorts

(even if they are pretty good)

[runic root]

I'll read it eventually.... (The heatdeath of the universe will probably arrive quicker)

[runic root]

Space wolfs can be a bit repetitive..... 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺

[tall phoenix]

UAAAGH

[vale wren]

Ummm... Excuse me? Throw him to the krakens

[summer beacon]

Which book should I read for:

1. Comedy
2. Horror
   I mostly know space marine and imperium lore
   Everything else is just surface level

I guess also chaos by extension

[safe plover]

theres a collection of short horror stories i forgot what it was called

[final adder]

The Ciaphas Cain omnibus for comedy

[sonic walrus]

The Infinite and the Divine for comedy
or one of the warhammer horror novels

[fading patrol]

Can I get some help I’m trying to find out what is the order of the kingsblade books

[tall phoenix]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kingsblade_(Novel)

[fading patrol]

Thank you

[tall phoenix]

No problem pal

[cerulean peak]

Almost done with Above and Beyond. It was a good run. Any recommendation for my next reading?

[wide mica]

Above and Beyond again

Repeat until new Lucille Von Shard novel

[tall phoenix]

LMAO

I cant believe how hard I indoctrinated moth, this is bad

[wise yew]

spoken like a true inquisitor

indoctrination so hard you didn't realize you turned someone into a brainwashed robot

[cerulean peak]

A fun book is a fun book 🤷‍♂️

Which is good for warhammer fiction

[tall phoenix]

tf you mean "fun book is a fun book"

ITS LITERALLY WHAT I RECOMMENDED

[cerulean peak]

I know I think we're having a misunderstanding lol

This one is also going in the good read tier

[tall phoenix]

its on my Top 7

🫡

[cerulean peak]

I do have my unread copy of path of the dark eldar

[tall phoenix]

Im biased for it because its my first 40k book

[cerulean peak]

Well... it's an eldar book so if it's not trash that's good

[wise yew]

you have space wolf book in there?

that one must be real good

[tall phoenix]

just Lukas

[wise yew]

then again lukas is the goat

[wide mica]

It's got everything, the WW fighter pilot aesthetics, Lucille, Great character moments, Lucille, peak writing that explores the themes of the novel while naturally interworking it with the greater themes of 40k and the Imperium while still working as an isolated narrative and Lucille.

[tall phoenix]

Also you forgot the best part

absolutely zero fighter cockpit/control setup porn

literally what put me off from touching the first book at first, hate Abnett's WW fighter exposition slop

[wide mica]

Yea it's the aspects of dogfighting that are of interest to the reader, rather than telling us what buttons are on the dashboard, how many levers Lucille has to pull and where the handbrake is located.

[tall phoenix]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

instead we got

"Wait, we gotta go back for my skull!"

"Who?"

"MY SERVO-SKULL! I RECORD EVERTHING ON IT!"

"Damn. Bummer."

[cerulean peak]

I love servo skulls. They're not featured enough as "characters"

[wide mica]

I still laugh about how Lucille first reaction to watching Simlex having a stroke is to publicly mock him

[cerulean peak]

Simlex's skulls are nice and also Gorgias from vaults of terra

[wide mica]

I always appreciate when things that are effectively just background tools become characters like that

[tall phoenix]

Thats kinda what makes her great imo, like shes just a cunt

I dont think ive ever seen a 40k book where one of the main characters is just an all around asshole, not even just "generic cartoon villain"

it makes it a lot better when its just not ever properly *super *explored in Book 1 until you get to Book 2, then it clicks

[cerulean peak]

Uri is a ||Dark eldar || right?

[tall phoenix]

Possibly.

[wide mica]

Like the skulls with Simlex and Borvo the Cherub in Martyrdom of Sister Ishani

[tall phoenix]

||My vibe was like a more dickish Asuryani||

But like

the issue is he outright says if the Inquisitor Shard and Simlex fall behind hes gonna just abandon them

[cerulean peak]

||He swears using Vect's name at one point ||

[tall phoenix]

so lmao

[tall phoenix]

AH RIGHT then yeah deffo that

I love his reveal in general too

[cerulean peak]

Also loved the hangman's noose mimics behind the acolyte's back lol

[tall phoenix]

Same

I really like how expressive Flowers made him in general, its super funny

[cerulean peak]

He's a great contrast from ||Cesh||

Surprisingly

[tall phoenix]

Yeah he is the more generic portrayal

Red Baron ass

[wide mica]

Yea, my guess was ||He's one of the Dark Eldar who gave the plant to the Governor in Outgunned and they got involved with the Inquisitor after they caught the Governor||

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that, we might see it explored at some point but I dont mind if it isnt.

Its one of the very good background elements of Book 1 I really like when you piece it together, also shows how dumb the governor actually is

[cerulean peak]

Give her a break. She was probably drunk most of time

[tall phoenix]

[cerulean peak]

But yea she's a typical clueless noble

[tall phoenix]

I love how Simlex outright says all the treatment hes getting is pointless because hes like 54th on the line for one of the sector's governors

[cerulean peak]

Rockin' that insect drip

[tall phoenix]

and she still insists because shes a kiss-ass lol

[cerulean peak]

54th might not be that far considering plots and assassinations on 40k scale

[wide mica]

Also shows how ignorant Simlex is/how deep the Imperial propaganda was in him. ||That like he had people straight up telling him there were Eldar present working with the governor, he saw Eldar runes, saw drawings of Eldar and in the end is still like "Wait, the Governor is working with Eldar?"||

[tall phoenix]

Hes such a fucking moron I love him.

[wide mica]

It's when the Governor is telling him about him being a descendent and is like "You're a direct descendent, you're in line to inherit all of his titles..... provided the 546 people inline before you die"

[tall phoenix]

YES lmfao

the fact that he gets shafted so badly at the end of Book 1 kinda shows that he really is just a nobody too, I forgot how he actually avoids outright Inquisitorial execution and instantly ends on a stone cubicle but its still great

[cerulean peak]

Probably because the Von Shards liked his movie

[tall phoenix]

OH RIGHT that was it i think

[cerulean peak]

But his transmission is intercepted by one of lucille's sibling at the end of book 1

[tall phoenix]

Yeah that fucking uhhh-

scribe bitch, the one that just thanks him for his help then just sends him to die in ignomity lol

[cerulean peak]

The administratum girl i think

[tall phoenix]

Yeah her, what a twat

her being so cheery at his upcoming misery too

[cerulean peak]

I think it's mercy considering it's the imperium

[tall phoenix]

Pretty much but man its aggravating

especially as you see through the book that Simlex is legit a good person and thinks his job is something admirable

[cerulean peak]

I would have expected simlex to be turned into a skull for his atonment and because he lost 2 of them

[tall phoenix]

Bureucracy moment

[cerulean peak]

He is a good man. Still is even if he gets "broken" between book 1 and 2

Plient is the actual good man tho

[tall phoenix]

Plient is UNBEARABLY good

hes just a naive trooper doing his job lol

[cerulean peak]

||Sir.||

[wide mica]

Na she's the nice one, her and Simlex played Chess together during his isolation

Sorry they play Regicide

[cerulean peak]

I think all the von shards are okayish in their own manner

Except maybe the priest. He seemed to not give a lot of fucks

The commisar is hardcore but I think he cares in a way. Administratum one and the inquisitorial acolyte seemed to care(ish)

[wide mica]

I think the Administratum one cares the most, Lucille says she's the only reason they all keep it touch

[cerulean peak]

Found this. Mostly accurate

[wide mica]

||They kinda confirm Simlex loves her in Above and Beyond, when Uri is like "my condolences, I know you love her" and Simlex is just "Nuh uh, I hate her" and Uri is just like "Yea sure buddy, tell yourself that"||

[cerulean peak]

Trauma bonds people 🤷‍♂️

[mellow knot]

#40k-book-club message

Check this message 🙂

[hybrid turtle]

I wouldnt judge, thats a good choice 👍

[tall phoenix]

Only downside

You started with peak, now you gotta find some books that might match it or dont

[wise yew]

unfortunately the only thing we can judge you for is you started with a very good book

which means that the rest of warhammer books you will read would probably not past the standard i'm gonna be honest

[tall phoenix]

No harm done dont worry about it, just to be blunt the novel branch of warhammer Black Library tends to be very hit/miss with most things they produce, theres about as many great novels as theres middling, ok, bad or terrible ones

(mostly because the entire reason they do these novels is to get you to buy miniatures)

[wise yew]

as i say black library books have the accuracy of an ork shoota

no worries you can trust the opinion of everyone here except clad

[tall phoenix]

Yeah thats the right call, the fanbase can kinda bloat and hype too much about "oh man all warhammer novels are great!" so its good to keep it in mind

[wise yew]

you can only slightly trust him

[tall phoenix]

As said though we got some good ones in the pins above

worst case if you wanna read anything else and are unsure just ask here

[wise yew]

i should really add the new grotsnik book in the list

genuinely peak ork literature

this is a great book

are you familliar with orks?

alright i just have one advice with you when it it comes to orks

They tend to be the comedic faction everyone laughs at but they can also be very very serious and that book is one of the few that take them seriously and comedically, basically treat them like a very dangerous joke

Yeah they are in a perfect limbo of being a comedic faction but also being scary

yeah hope you have fun

[mellow knot]

Enjoy. Remember with all books, as with many art forms, not everyone likes the same things. So if you don’t like something and everyone else does - or vice versa - that’s perfectly OK!

[wise yew]

Oh hey captain can I ask to add Grotsnik: Da Mad Dok by Denny Flowers

to the pin list

[mellow knot]

I’ll do it when I get home

Nah, I did it now because I can

[tall phoenix]

Based girlboss behavior

[wide mica]

Speaking of books by Denny Flowers

[forest spruce]

viod exile has me in a death hold rn

feels so nice to have a cleanser after dawn of fire

[tall phoenix]

Dawn of Slop takes a lot out of folks

[forest spruce]

i dont know what cruel spirit possessed me to read it

[tall phoenix]

Curiosity alas

[wise yew]

thank you

[tall phoenix]

its also just SUCH a weird series in retrospective, I hope someone like Ian covers it at some point

because like from the time it started years ago to where we stopped a few weeks ago it feels like it kinda more or less covers basically nothing

[forest spruce]

pointless fluff

only a few things were interesting

[reef nacelle]

Now I must read Dawn of fire out of shear curiousity

[tall phoenix]

Its your right to do so

[reef nacelle]

At least they aren't 20+ hour epics

[tall phoenix]

I mean they technically are if you put em together

its like a 9 book series

[reef nacelle]

I can take a break and read something else inbetween

I have issues with longer books, even if I'm enjoying them

Probably a "me" thing

[forest spruce]

dont do it

its not worth it

[reef nacelle]

Its too late

[forest spruce]

ivr been down this road

[reef nacelle]

(I bought the audiobooks months ago)

[tall phoenix]

Let him be, just like the ones that didnt listen to us, let him suffer

[reef nacelle]

Well, some of them

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/student-first-day-of-school-gif-13271973

[tall phoenix]

I still cant believe we had like almost 6 users in here read wolftime and go

"I should have listened... WHY DID I READ THIS BOOK"

😩

[forest spruce]

[tall phoenix]

Gav Thorpe strikes again

"We dont want Primaris they are gay"

300 pages later
"We want primaris they are rad."

Very riveting plotline thanks guys

🙏

[reef nacelle]

A series with 1/3rd of the books written by Gav Thorpe and Nick Kyme

What could go wrong?

[tall phoenix]

I think the thing that makes it worse as said before is like

we are SO past Indomitus now and explored so many other side events that take place during it, literally nobody gives a shit about this plotline anymore

like they are teasing shit for Cawl for example of how hes gonna go to that one Tyranid-nommed planet to continue his research, mfer the book for that came out like 6 years ago 😭

[reef nacelle]

I guess this is why the better books are in their own little area of space

Trying to tie all this shit together across several different authors must be a nightmare

[forest spruce]

so stupid

[tall phoenix]

Yeah agreed lol

[smoky bronze]

too many cooks spoil the broth especially when some of the cooks are bad cooks

[shy lark]

Gav can write some cool things at least, Kyme is the only author who made me drop a novel from sheer boredom

[tall phoenix]

Kyme literally only has a job because he has a cushy job as the head editor at BL lol

[mental cobalt]

i will say the end and the death is so far my least liked abnett book

[tall phoenix]

Oh shit really?

can you tell more, like I can KINDA guess but im legit curious

[mental cobalt]

reading the constant flow of names of people or daemons that go on for a long paragraph or in one case at least a page and a half worth

i don't like the chapter numbering system

and the pov of horus just doesn't hit

[tall phoenix]

LMFAO

I know some people that REALLY like that the book refers to you the reader in his chapters and I respect the decision but i also cannot take it seriously

since Horus acts like Dr Claw from Inspector Gadget for most of it

[mental cobalt]

it feels like it reads so differently from the rest of the book

[tall phoenix]

End-Death is basically Abnett unleashed

nobody told him to stop, edit or change anything, he just went with whatever he wanted at full-force, its why the book is just extremely clunky.

It has some AMAZING ideas/concepts but a lot of the book is a chunky mess.

all 3 of them tbh

[mental cobalt]

somebody gotta put him on a leash then

i literally couldn't put down pariah/penitent

[tall phoenix]

😔

[shy lark]

I remember at the time I was wondering why is this scene even in here

[mellow knot]

I think he’s moved elsewhere within the organisation now, but I couldn’t be sure

[reef nacelle]

You know for a book called "Guns of Tanith", there are a hell of a lot of references to their knives.

Is "Straight Silver" all about Lasguns?

[drowsy urchin]

I don't think any of the Gaunts books have less than 5 mentions of their knives

[frigid osprey]

large if huge!

[reef nacelle]

This one seems particularly extreme lol

[sonic walrus]

Say what you want about Abnett. At least he actually finishes shit. If I had a dollar for every day I've been waiting for Rothfuss and Martin to finish their respective series... Ugh.

[drowsy urchin]

Well you say that but

Where Bequin

[shy lark]

Rothfuss will deliver any day now

[drowsy urchin]

13 years since Pariah, 4 since Penitent, where Pandemonium

don't make us wait a decade again

[sonic walrus]

The end and the death.

It's been 14 years since the wise mans fear. Since then Rothfuss has put out Jack and shit but some novellas.

And 14 years since a dance with dragons.

And those are the /only/ long term series either one of them has done. Granted Martin has a bunch of other writing and editing he's done. But both those series have languished for 14 years.

How much has Abnett done?

[drowsy urchin]

Abnett is a proper workhorse of a writer that's for sure

[tall phoenix]

Its not really comparable imo either

Abnett is a writer that is used to mass-production and indeed being a workhorse

and like... the "works" hes done are not exactly talked about minus anything Warhammer either lol

[reef nacelle]

How much is that because someone sees "Warhammer" and avoids it like the plague?

[tall phoenix]

He definitely enjoys writing for warhammer tbh

if he didnt he wouldnt have stuck around for like 30 years

he just has way too many side stuff

[deft bramble]

he enjoys describing women in leather bodysuits

40k allows it

[runic root]

There are worse fetishes....🤷🏻

[deft bramble]

why did you bring this up?..

[runic root]

Because i refuse your particular critizism that i replied to

I dont think too much of abnets fetish of describing women in thight leather suits

Totally normal for me

[tall phoenix]

Its definitely a fetish but its nothing egregious yeah its just funny lol

[deft bramble]

i mean... are there actual fetishes in 40k books?..

[tall phoenix]

Plenty yeah

many authors tend to put those in expecting people not to notice lol

[deft bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339337727541772289/1405142093722030192/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.gif

[wide mica]

Any novel involving Jaq Draco

Dude literally kidnaps a woman and uses drugs and psychic powers to turn her into his ex-girlfriend

[deft bramble]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GqklJK7bcAAP8lX.gif

[hybrid turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-cat-mewing-mewing-meme-cat-staring-cat-gif-6979404450990708267

[peak yoke]

Thought experiment: If you change the terminus decree to something you want, what would it be?

For example, someone could have the terminus decree be the order for the Grey Knights to empower the legion of the damned.

[tall phoenix]

Anything you do would be stupid/lame

its a mystery box for the sake of a mystery box

no answer will ever be satisfying

[wise yew]

I'm with the old unsuccessful witchfinder here

It was a mystery for the sake of mystery revealing something like that will never be satisfying

[shy lark]

Yeah just never reveal it

[peak yoke]

Fair enough.

[shy lark]

It's very whatever, but the idea of what could it be was fun. There's other things to explore imho

[wide mica]

The Terminus Decree has Abnett's manuscript for Pandemonium inside, never to be released.

Speaking of, apparently Abnett said in Interceptor City that the release of Pandemonium had been delayed due to decisions beyond his control.

GW's holding it in reserve for some reason

[tall phoenix]

Yeah Pandemonium is finished

its just held on hold atm as said above

[wide mica]

Must be saving it for something special

[tall phoenix]

I think the implication is that its something "huge" for the lore but eh who knows.

Its just as likely its some promotion thing for something else thats being held back, about as likely tbh

[wide mica]

Either that or the Amazon show is going to follow the Inquisitor series and they don't want to publish the conclusion until S1 releases

[tall phoenix]

Ye that too, we'll see i suppose

[forest spruce]

I'm literally fiending for any kind of hint about the show

[wide mica]

Not gonna get any

Even the Shareholders aren't being given any details

[wise yew]

Thing is locked down tighter than a fortress world

[forest spruce]

I just want something anything

[tall phoenix]

the best tease we got was that aquila logo

one side pristine the other side rotten

[forest spruce]

I did not see that

[smoky bronze]

Yeah basically no news, otoh basically no news of cavill doing anything else

[tall phoenix]

^

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

I cannot seem to find this teaser anywhere ;_;

[peak yoke]

Huh. So GK are stealing from other chapters now to refill their own?

[forest spruce]

No?????

[tall phoenix]

Its like a year old

and its that classic uh

show VFX scene

logo appears and gets slowly erroded/damaged

so not much to really see

id go find it but warhammer-community shits out like 1000000 posts a month

so its long buried lol

[tall phoenix]

KEK

[forest spruce]

I mean give how rare powerful psykers are I can see that happening but give terra is right there I'm sure recruits aren't too hard to find

[tall phoenix]

Its due to the Rift + several Warp Storms

since the chapter is suppose to be under-wraps still it kinda makes their job even more difficult i guess

[pale vigil]

Just learned about the Ollanius retcon, what book is the original version of his death?

[tall phoenix]

There is no original version, its several retcons dating back like 40 years lol

the new version does a much better job of mixing all previous lore revisions of it into one narrative

[pale vigil]

Ok so the book, 'The End and The Death III" writes it as he's a regular ol' guardsmen?

[tall phoenix]

Not really

[pale vigil]

Because thats one that pops up on google when I try to search it up lmao

[tall phoenix]

hold on

Your first mistake is using google instead of lexi

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius

Here its fully explained

It basically makes it so that all previous version of the story in the lore is true and muddles it with in-universe mythological mixups which is a really great take i think, adds to how everyone in-universe would have different takes on it like the fandom

[pale vigil]

Ah so I do just wanna read the newest version lmao

[tall phoenix]

You mean the last Siege book?

[pale vigil]

Yeh

Or whatever 'The end and the death III' is, I'll have to take a gander at the book list in pins

[tall phoenix]

its not in there since its a part of Siege which is another beast onto itself

just check the sources numbers listed on the lexi, you can find the specific version you want from there

[forest spruce]

Under wraps but everybody knows the rumors about them.

[tall phoenix]

Well not really everybody no

[pale vigil]

Aight, we just signed up to audible for the first time ever, probably should've done that sooner

I got 2 credits, give me recommendations

Warboss appeals to me, I kinda wanna get a few self contained stories

[tall phoenix]

Warboss is good but id recommend Brutal Kunning

[pale vigil]

literally reading a reddit post about how brutal kunning sucks compared to warboss lmao

[tall phoenix]

Lmao thats a shit take

[forest spruce]

Assassinorm kingmaker

[tall phoenix]

Brutal Kunning was universally praised when it came out

idk what that dude is on

[tall phoenix]

Also that yeah

[pale vigil]

He says its about 60% non-orc pov

[tall phoenix]

It doesnt matter imo its still a very fun book, the ork POVs are still excellent

the techpriests take on the ork invasion is also hilarious

"We will just let them run to our gunlines and die in droves it will be fine-"

"Magos they just blew up our entire pipeline."

[peak yoke]

So there's more weird stuff happening with the GK:

[trail ravine]

Are there any books on black templars and sigismund besides helsreach?

[wide mica]

Broken Crusade is a recent one

[unborn merlin]

Spear of the Emperor

[frigid osprey]

fabius bile: primogenitor

[mental cobalt]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nr6jarwz/find-out-which-three-black-library-books-are-getting-the-special-edition-treatment/

UHHH I'M BUYING

is there anyway to be notified once they go live?

[cerulean peak]

Best parts of brutal kunnin' were the non orks pov (ork povs were still great tho)

[wise yew]

i mean the povs are good

it literally sells on how the imperium literally underestimates anything

[wise yew]

That's just normal for any warhammer book though, giving the enemies of the protagonist a pov, because if you don't do that you better be the most Hail Mary writer to make it work of just treating the enemies as objects

[severe trail]

Disagree tbh, the Ork parts were way better for me lol

[odd skiff]

Yes. Here.

• Signal to Noise - Short Story (Anthology - Black Library Weekender)
• Bitter Salvage - Short Story (eBook)
• Visage of Zeal - Short Story (eBook)
• The Emperor’s Chosen - Short Story (eBook)
• Damnation Crusade - Graphic Novel
• Words of Blood - Short Story (Anthology under the same name)
• ⁠And They Shall Know No Fear - Short Story (eBook) Neophyte Helbrecht cameo.
• Dishonoured - Short Story (eBook) How Helbrecht lost his hand to the Necrons.
• Circle of Honour - Short Story (Anthology - Honour of the Space Marines)
• The Black Pilgrim - Short Story (eBook)
• Helbrecht: The Crusader - Short Story (2013 Advent Calendar)
• Exterminatus - Graphic Novel (eBook)
• Uncanny Crusade - Short Story (Anthology - Crusaders of Dorn)

Crusaders of Dorn is an anthology that focused on the Black Templar. Circle of Honour, the Black Pilgrims, Helbrecht: The Crusader, The Uncanny Crusade, The Glorious Tomb, Only Blood, and Season of Shadows are all in this.

• Eternal Crusader - Novella (eBook)
• ⁠⁠Helsreach - Novel (eBook)

Helsreach. I believe this is the quintessential Black Templar novel. Everyone should try to have a copy.

• Blood and Fire - Novella (eBook)

Armageddon is an anthology that contained Helsreach and Blood and Fire. The original was released in 2013 with a special edition that came in 2023.

• The Glorious Tomb - Short Story (audio drama)
• Only Blood - Short Story (eBook)
• Season of Shadows - Short Story (eBook)
• Crusade for Armageddon - Novel (OOP)
• Conquest for Armageddon - Novel (OOP)
• ⁠⁠Sanctuary - Short Story (Omnibus)
• ⁠The Relic - Short Story (Omnibus)
• ⁠⁠Vengeful Honour - Short Story (eBook)

Vengeful Honour continues the story started in Bitter Salvage. Really good to read.

• Champions All - Short Story (eBook)
• Blighted Sun - Short Story (Inferno! Presents: The Emperor's Finest)
• ⁠Throne of Light - Novel (Dawn of Fire series)
• The Iron Kingdom - Novel
• ⁠The Martyr’s Tomb - Novel
• ⁠⁠⁠Helbrecht: Knight of the Throne - Novel
• Consecrated Ground - Short Story (eBook)
• Broken Crusade - Novel

There are a few novels that have us featured as well. Not to mention Sigismund and the Imperial Fists.

• The Black Legion - Novel (Black Legion series)

Sigismund vs Abaddon. Nuff said.

The Beast Arises series talks about the Last Wall Protocol and Templar characters throughout it. Forge of Mars series has a Templar squad as part of the expedition.

Lastly, for our founder.

• Champion of Oaths - Short Story (Anthology)
• Templar - Short Story (eBook)
• Sigismund: The Eternal Crusader - Novel
• ⁠⁠Warhawk - Novel (Siege of Terra series)
• ⁠Echoes of Eternity - Novel
• The End and the Death Volumes 1-3

I will say broken crusade is a hit or miss imo, it really doesn’t get going until half way through

[reef nacelle]

Finished Guns of Tanith. Why must Dan Abnett make me feel things?

[runic root]

I finished that gyrfalcon space wolves trillogy. I have mixed feelings but i am largely happy
Mcneil writes decent bolterporn although his scenic descriptions can sometimes lose themselves into detail and get a bit repetitive.

The wolves themselves are well... Wolves....
Characters are decent enough and nyal stormcaller was pure kino. I want a shortstory where he, tigurius and Mephiston meet and have to fuck shit up (ok, fangirl mode off now).

I am a bit unhappy that they left the baldr subplot on a cliffhanger (the awakened space wolf psyker). They probably left it so they could continue it in the future but knowing GW and BL, this plotline very well may end up on the large pile of seemingly cool BL plotlines that never went anywhere....

I just hate a good story without a finish (thats what she said 🙃💀)

Anyway, those were my two cents, make sure you throw those in the wishing well...

[brittle tapir]

i fucking knew it. GW is planning something for GK

[smoky bronze]

Suspiciously shaped like space marines corpsesjak

[peak yoke]

GK gets replaced by Legion of the damned and just become a different flavour of it.

[forest spruce]

I just finished void exile

[tall phoenix]

how was it

[forest spruce]

Pretty good

Brings some interesting questions about vashtorrs power

[tall phoenix]

what does he do

[forest spruce]

He can make daemon princes it seems

[tall phoenix]

eyo based

post the excerpt

also page number

[forest spruce]

Uhhhh

[tall phoenix]

I need it for the lexi page

[forest spruce]

Audiobook

[tall phoenix]

UAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

May your entire bloodline perish in nuclear fire

[forest spruce]

||Yeah but unfortunately buddy failed to ascend||

It speaks to the arkifanes growing power, because he's going to ascend to be a proper chaos god at some point in the next 100 irl years

[smoky bronze]

That's... pretty soon

[forest spruce]

In gw time that's like tomarrow

[smoky bronze]

Chaos god meetings in the 42nd millenium be like "ok what are you god of"
"Change"
"Disease"
'"Excess"
"War"
"Tanks (evil)"

I know they don't really get along but its fun to imagine them doing legion of doom meetings

"We need to get to the bottom of this helmet shit its unnatural"

[forest spruce]

They have to discuss who belakor stays with for the weekend

[smoky bronze]

Tzeentch buying belakor a new xbox (he is the king of manipulators)

[tall phoenix]

Damn

so you are ||telling me another generic chaos villain fails his goal in a loyalist novel||

[tall phoenix]

https://youtu.be/50LwTHTw6i8

The funny part is like this is literally how they are in the lore

like actual cartoon supervillains who are petty as shit

[forest spruce]

||yeah but the pale nomad says that's he was literally on the cusp of achieving it||

[tall phoenix]

||Okay but like he still fails||

this is the equilavent of the Khan "dying" when fighting Mortarion

mfer you are in 40k you arent dying

😭

[runic root]

Ah yes... Dilaras charming and loving touch

[forest spruce]

||maybe in a few years one will succeed, maybe when gw needs more model sales||

||arkifanes gonna have his own codex and army mark my words||

[tall phoenix]

🫡

the ayatollah of rock an rolla

[smoky bronze]

Evil tanks is a lot of cool models

[tall phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262311186351788113/1296045943849750539/in-light-of-recent-news-kazotsky-kick-burnice-v0-ok2zvyr6hxud1.gif

[runic root]

So he got pulled out right before finishing... What a bummer

[forest spruce]

You have no idea how right you are oml

[runic root]

Dilara whenever she threatens violence be like:

[smoky bronze]

Right now the other gods can field stuff like soulgrinders iirc but a full faction of daemon engines at all non-infantry scales would be sick

[tall phoenix]

🫡

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-grenade-truth-nuke-gif-6248133608324632914

[smoky bronze]

Invent some fodder daemons for him bam you got a cool model line now just spend $2000000 on the injection molding line

[runic root]

I am a guy. I know all about that sorta thing

[forest spruce]

they'll just use the same molds for augmetic limbs or mechancus

[smoky bronze]

Ive got a friend who's a material scientist in cambridge so he knows some of the gw plastic guys from liverpool or wherever their processes are crazy

They're like the TSMC of little plastic guys

[forest spruce]

Wait I just realized something

I just finished my book and all my friends are either sleeping or at work... I have no idea what I'm gonna do for the next hour during my lunch.... Why did I have to finish void exile

https://tenor.com/view/curse-you-dinkleberg-the-fairly-odd-parents-dad-mr-turner-angry-gif-15375777

[runic root]

100 pushups

[reef nacelle]

||My favourite part was that he did it with the power of M A T H||

||And Vashtorr seemingly thought, "Fuck it, I want to see what happens"||

[forest spruce]

I just played blade and sorcery

[frigid osprey]

im reading it on ebook so i can provide page numbers if no one else has done

(reading it super slowly tho)

[drowsy urchin]

What is this? Dilara actually using spoiler tags?

Amazing

[tall phoenix]

I use it so yyall dont bitch tbh

guys get upset over me saying how another loyalist book has them beating the generic villains

[drowsy urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889817121507393536/1377153149399203901/2x.avif

[brittle tapir]

@severe trail I SAW THAT

[forest spruce]

Really though, omg guys the protagonist beat the antagonist

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[tall phoenix]

I mean is it bad to expect something original

Especially in a space marine novel

actually nvm considering their usual quality it definitely is lol

[storm kettle]

I don’t know what it is about the gaunts ghosts books. They always take me a while to really get into it but once we get to the meat of it in the middle they are so good

[runic root]

Good morning chat

[runic root]

I only have the first 3. Cant find the other ones in my language

[fringe thorn]

Speaking of Gaunt's Ghosts, I spoiled myself in reading more about the new chacters introduced in the first chapter of Necropolis. ||I hate how later in the Ghosts series the former miner dad and his oldest son join the Tanith at different times, but the son does not know the dad survived and the dad will not reveal himself to him. The dad also believed Sgt Caffran acted as a better father. Eventually the dad will be hit in the head from shrapnel in a battle and gain amnesia, so he forgets his past life.||

[drowsy urchin]

There's more to it than just that

It's actually a very good side story

[tall phoenix]

Lmfao I remember that one

im evil because I remember laughing at how goofy it was 💀

[forest spruce]

She finally admits it!

[tall phoenix]

admit what

ive always been evil

https://tenor.com/view/devil-or-your-angel-cat-gif-23315393

[forest spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-screaming-then-running-away-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-spongebob-meme-running-gif-14848209682511966800

[tall phoenix]

[hybrid turtle]

Evil and fucked up

[forest spruce]

Lol anyways back to pacing wondering if I'm gonna start space wolf or keep listening to various chapters of books I like

[wise yew]

bro it took you this long?

[forest spruce]

No I'm doing the bit cause it's fun

[left meteor]

Are there any good books that focus on the Necrons, maybe from their perspective and/or interactions with other races close as possible to the current timeline?

[wise yew]

Have you read this?

[left meteor]

I haven't I'm still somewhat new to the books and have only read The Dark imperium series so far. I just want to learn and become more familiar with the Necrons

[wise yew]

Well i did recommend you not just the neckron book but one of the warhammer books of all time

But if that's not enough there's also other choices in the list

In the pins for this chat

[wise yew]

But personally i highly recommend you read the infinite and the divine

[left meteor]

I will check it out now, thank you!

[reef nacelle]

The Twice dead King books as well

[left meteor]

Amazing thanks! While im on, how about books on the Grey Knights?

[reef nacelle]

The Emperors Gift by ADB. Though I think this is really a Space Wolves book lol

They have an omnibus by Ben Counter but I don't know how good it is

They feature a decent bit in Pandorax by C Z Dunn

Though that's a fairly meh book. Lots of hype moments stung together into something cohesive. Fairly interesting lore though

[tall phoenix]

Only thing ill say

• Read Twice Dead if you want some depression/cool necrons

• Read Infinite & Divine if you want some fun/entertaining necrons

both are a must read, just keep the vibes in mind i guess

[severe trail]

The Ben counter omnibus is good imo

[frigid osprey]

i need to read emperors gift

need some grey knight action tbh

[unborn merlin]

So I found a physical copy of Swallow's Blood Angels Omnibus for pretty cheap. I know they're older books and don't necessarily fit with the current lore but people seem to like them. Will I regret my purchase chat?

[proven barn]

Will it look good on a bookshelf?
If yes then no
If no then yes

[unborn merlin]

Moreso interested in the quality of the books lmao. I still have a copy of the Blood Ravens Omnibus by Goto which are considered some of the worst books BL has ever released. I'll keep it regardless.

Swallow is usually decent most of the time.

[reef nacelle]

Older books are still good, you just might have the odd contradiction

[tall phoenix]

"Good" largely depends tbh

BL is the same as it was back then, tons of misses with some Ok, Mid or Great books

[wise yew]

BL has the accuracy of an ork shoota alright

[reef nacelle]

Can still be good

[unborn merlin]

I've liked a lot of the older stuff in general. Rather have weird stories that are inconsistent but entertaining compared to a lot of the really boring stuff we get nowadays.

Those old guard books are especially fire.

[hybrid turtle]

Just means they gotta release more and more books

[drowsy urchin]

Finished High Kahl's Oath, I'm somewhat disappointed by the ending but it was a decent adventure over all. Wouldn't have minded more world building too

[tall phoenix]

The book is definitely the definition of "mid" imo

hope the next Votann book is better

😔

[drowsy urchin]

real