the one where ||an ultra marine fights a daemon that makes anyone who looks at it turn to stone was good until the ending||
#40k-book-club
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safe plover
who the fuck thought it was a good idea to ||to write an entire story from the point of vew of a knife||
i know i shouldnt post gifs but this was this bad
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i was wrong about everything the last short story is worth the grind
orchid herald
wish book club stream was more time friendly
orchid herald
it like 2 am in the morning for me to catch the stream
dapper cape
So I'm thinking about getting the Eisenhorn Omnibus, but idk if I wanna get The Infinite and the Divine or the 1st 3 Horus Heresy novels as well. Anybody have an opinion?
orchid herald
Eisenhorn omnibus is good, but you are enrering the abbnet verse, the divine is shortest of them, while once you start horus hereesy you wan't be able to put it down
dapper cape
I want to read all of them ;w;. I'm really interested about the Atrocity of Istvan tho, so im leaning toward Horus Heresy a bit
tall phoenix
The Heresy is better if you cherrypick it
we are talking like 55+ books, a ton of them are mediocre slop
orchid herald
just collect them all
tall phoenix
thankfully the start of it is pretty good
wise yew
The Heresy is better if you cherrypick it
Do you have that video of Larmoth explaining the order of the heresy
dapper cape
Oh I was only really planning on reading the 1st three, Im not made of money lmao
wise yew
Flash bang someone with that every time they want to get into it
tall phoenix
Oh I was only really planning on reading the 1st three, Im not made of money lma...
Good man lmao
dapper cape
I've also heard the rest of the horus heresy novles you can kinda pick and choose whatever topic interests you the most
tall phoenix
Yeah they are basically a mix of Ordered or Has Nothing to Do With HH
dapper cape
I'll get the Horus Heresy trilogy then. Should be a nice contrast to the Eisenhorn detectiveish novels
tall phoenix
Yeee its the better start
wise yew
Oh I was only really planning on reading the 1st three, Im not made of money lma...
Trust me be glad with that decision
dapper cape
HEH Yea I'm familiar with the meme lmao
wise yew
tall phoenix
God genuinely awful
brittle tapir
God genuinely awful
and they still make money on this is the funniest part
dense aurora
imagine trying to buy actuall copies of these books
drowsy urchin
many have
the chart is somewhat bloated from the short stories included, pretty much doubling it in it's size
dense aurora
yeah i kinda figured that most of these would be side plots
molten temple
Just joined the server last night, figured I’d make an introduction. I’m currently reading Bloodlines and it’s fuggin good. My bread and butter, book wise is the stuff on the Inquisition (ik, it’s ironic because of my name lmao). I’ve read all the Eisenhorn books, and all of the Bequin novels, and I’m still trynna get my hands on the Ravenor books.
tall phoenix
Yeah the Inquisition I really do wish had more material in general.
Outside of Rav/Eisenhorn they basically got nothing, most people here probably dont even know Inquisitor Covenant's books 😭
molten temple
Yeeeeeah, and just looked him up 😅. He looks pretty sick tho ngl. I’ve read plenty of non inquisition related stuff, but hot take, I’m kiiiinda bored of books on space marines lol. I’ll put a picture of my entire collection at some point in here
tall phoenix
Being bored of SM books is a very normal opinion to have dont worry
theres a reason im guts-deep in Crime rn, got like all the avaliable material on it and chewing through them atm.
molten temple
Ye, I was making a bit of joke with that . Noice, I love the elements of Cyberpunk, Blade Runner, and Noire stuff in Bloodlines.
safe plover
Just joined the server last night, figured I’d make an introduction. I’m current...
how do you like it? if its more small scale action i might add it to the maybe in 6 years list
HH is taking too long 
molten temple
It’s very much like an old detective movie from the 30’s-50’s set in the WH universe. It’s really grounded and doesn’t do anything too big. I can imagine 😬, I’ve got 5 HH books, and the entire collection of them is daunting ah
safe plover
avoid all anthologies and short stories
theyre a scam
dan abnett would legit trim 1 chapter of a book and sell it as a short story to market the slop anthologies better
like
mark of calth is ass aside from the last part and the first one
molten temple
Oof, me liking Abnetts 40k stuff over pretty much anything I’ve read in my 3ish years in the fandom 💀
safe plover
ehhhhh
its not bad except for two major things that bother me
some word choices
and sometimes he would just ramble for an entire chapter
like you could remove that chapter and it wouldnt matter to the story
molten temple
Ah, fair
safe plover
like
the last story in mark of calth should have been part of the betrayer
the entire anthology was very bad except for that last story
i would just skip the anthologies and maybe read up a summery online
i dont think theyre worth it
molten temple
Gotcha, thank you
royal egret
Some are better than others
Often you can find the shorts online too individually
Or the anthologies
safe plover
the only good ones i can think of where one about a salamander looking for vulkan the last one in mark of calth
royal egret
I’ve only ever bought properly one
Mostly I just used to go to the book store and read them all
safe plover
and ehhhh idk maybe the first one in mark of calth but its about erebus
safe plover
Mostly I just used to go to the book store and read them all
sneak in 5 minutes skim the entire story you wanna read
alpha move
royal egret
But I can’t recall which ones I liked and didn’t, it’s more you have to break it down by shorts individually
molten temple
Mostly I just used to go to the book store and read them all
As someone who’s got Scottish blood, I approve lmao
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and it ends with ||yuo see my father we lost because yuo werent with us||
like bruh
what am i watching a sunday night cartoon
royal egret
Tbh the content of the stories isn’t what makes me enjoy them a lot, one of my favorite shorts is an basic legionnaire Imperial Fist standing guard on one of the walls of Terra and thinking about how long it would take him to fall and if he could survive and so on.
And then he concludes at the end that he might be bored.
safe plover
and then ||guilliman gave his space marine a piggy back ride to the icecream store!||
safe plover
Tbh the content of the stories isn’t what makes me enjoy them a lot, one of my f...
thats not bad
but the mark of calth had one that was from the point of view of a ||knife||
like if you're really into that sure
but i didnt care much for itk
royal egret
Idk it depends, some of those suck but I like a lot
Shorts exist to experiment a lot or be kinda wacky
safe plover
ye but some are just direct continuations to some books
thats the part that really bugs me
why do i have to jump through hoops to know what happened after ||olly made a portal||
they need to hire a team of remembrancers to rewrite all the books into a chronologic anthology
orchid herald
they need to hire a team of remembrancers to rewrite all the books into a chrono...
that never going to hsppen given how many books and narratives there is. it like the man-kizn war serries where each omnibus book has like 2-6 books in them and from a different time period. to read it in chronological order a bitch, same as HH and most 40k novels and books, due to the Lore discrepancy with SM and who became primaris and who hasn't half the character that book have been written on haven't gotten Primarised so are assumed dead on that bases, but other have and are alive notional.
weak python
Is it too much to ask for Mr. Abnett to write a book expanding on what's happening in Tertium?
Starved for something involving The Lost and Damned and he just wrote some of the best lore for it in seemingly years
orchid herald
Starved for something involving The Lost and Damned and he just wrote some of th...
if you want to get a rough understanding behind the Tertium while it not Related directly to Darktide, it about 75% similliar that last chancers, by Grav thorpe, same premises as darktide interms of Dammand Souls given a chance to redeem themselves in the emperor's name, doing the scummiest mission for the 
from mass destruction to assassination.
tall phoenix
Is it too much to ask for Mr. Abnett to write a book expanding on what's happeni...
40k games largely never get books.
Dawn of War once got a few and they ended up being one of the worst novels in warhammer
tall phoenix
severe trail
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Wdym you didn’t want to read someone get sodimized to death with a stick
safe plover
my god is the portability of dorn slow cooking
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excuse im im talking about te book "the praelatiatation of dorn"
tall phoenix
royal egret
No accounting for taste.
safe plover
alpharious mentioned
day ruined
also dorns legion is portraited as meat heads
"ah yes psyker please inform us how to investigate"
||YOU MEAN WE SHOULD ASK WHY THE ALPHA LEGION IS HERE WOAH||
i didnt think of that all i know is how to build walls!!!
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https://tenor.com/view/lift-things-up-put-them-down-gif-15053261
y-yes andromeda please tell me what the fuck my brother is doing because i sure as shit dont
like every primarch in every other book boasts about knowing his brothers
but when it comes to alpha legion the writers throw everything out the window
like how stupid do you have to be|| if the alpha legion got in somewhere they couldnt have wouldnt the first thing you do is ask how they got access codes?||
celest heron
like how stupid do you have to be|| if the alpha legion got in somewhere they co...
Sorry bro, we just assumed we didnt build the wall right
Lets rebuild that wall broskis
tall phoenix
i mislike the book so far
Never let 30k fans tell you what to do.
Especially with Slopferial Fists books
celest heron
honestly though, I like the idea of imperial fists being absolute lunkheads
the lost second founding chapter the Body Builders
they do have a tramp stamp
tall phoenix
celest heron
tall phoenix
My favorite part is this lore has NEVER been retconned
tall phoenix
severe trail
My favorite part is this lore has NEVER been retconned
Is this from space marine?
As in the Ian Watson book
tall phoenix
Space Marine’s been a heretical tome for years 💀
Oh right i forgor-
wide mica
Until we get another book explicitly telling me that Imperial Fists don't have tramp stamps then I take it as canon
tall phoenix
💀
I think my favorite Heretical Tome is also Farseer
which uh
Got retconned for having a sword that can kill Slaanesh
Cut to future
Now we got multiple sword plots that can kill Slaanesh
GW Moment
severe trail
>Got retconned for having a sword that can kill Slaanesh
Also the soul stone stuff no?
tall phoenix
Nah it was entirely the Slaanesh sword
the soulstone stuff literally gets done twice in other material which is funny
ivory musk
Ghost maker is a prequel in the gaunts ghost series right?
celest heron
It’s unfortunately retcon’d
was rhetoricus retconned?
wide mica
Ghost maker is a prequel in the gaunts ghost series right?
No
It's the second book in the series
The Vincula Insurgency is a prequel set during the early days of the Regiment
From what I remember Ghost Maker is basically just a collection of short stories about the Ghosts posing as a novel, but it takes place after First and Only
ivory musk
||Yeah but Ron is trying to kill gaunt and Dorden is mentioned being alive ||
Idk if people care about spoilers here
severe trail
was rhetoricus retconned?
No, I just assumed it was from space marine(the Ian Watson book)
celest heron
fair
wide mica
||Yeah but Ron is trying to kill gaunt and Dorden is mentioned being alive ||
||Which Dorden? Tolin dies in book 13 and his son Mikal dies in book 3, as mentioned Ghostmaker is Book 2 and takes place and was released before both of those books||
safe plover
so far "Praetorian of Dorn" is slop
aside from the parts with the psyker woman shes alright
royal egret
safe plover
the books mid
idc
in a series of 54+ books some are bound to be better than others
and some are utter slop
tall phoenix
and some are utter slop
Its a hard reality to accept for some dont worry about it.
Also again
Imperial Fists
Auto-stinker
royal egret
I didn’t say some aren’t bad
I’d say there’s some that are highly rated and liked for a reason I’d question the taste of anyone who thinks it’s “slop”
It’s all subjective but considering you’re saying Battle for the fucking Abyss was good and the Kyme books.
safe plover
highly rated according to who?
theres millions of HH lists everywhere and most are utterly deranged
royal egret
There isn’t an objective matrix, I could bring up good reads where it’s in the upper tier of ratings for heresy books but that’s the only metric beyond general perception I’ve seen. Which has it generally being seen as a good book for the heresy, it shows the beginnings of the Solar War and has one of the more surprising parts of the heresy in it.
Idk how far you are so I’m not gonna spoil what happens, but imo it does a lot of interesting things and shows us a part of the heresy we don’t get to see a ton.
Do I think it’s the best heresy book? No, it was enjoyable but I like a lot of others more, but it’s not even close to the bottom half either.
frigid osprey
the whole HH setting is slop lets be honest
its 40k but worse
its 40k with most of the interesting bits removed and replaced by superhero dad soap opera
safe plover
its 40k but worse
r u trying to make all of book chat unite by hating you?
frigid osprey
its time to face it
royal egret
In general I’d mostly agreed, I think it’s overly focused on, I like it but I also think people miss a lot by focusing on it
safe plover
There isn’t an objective matrix, I could bring up good reads where it’s in the u...
i saw the good reads one its bad
and even in that list
tall phoenix
its 40k with most of the interesting bits removed and replaced by superhero dad ...
This is sarcasm right
frigid osprey
its the prequel series to 40k's original series
safe plover
dorns book is number 40
royal egret
Dorns primarch book does largely suck
A lot of them do
They swing wildly tbh
Some are really good and a lot are terrible, not a lot of in in between
tall phoenix
Out of 18 like... 5 of them are kinda good?
royal egret
Vulkans book is the closest I’ve gotten to not finishing a book and taking it back
tall phoenix
Was about to say KEK
royal egret
It’s completely awful
safe plover
Vulkans book is the closest I’ve gotten to not finishing a book and taking it ba...
😭
my BROTHER
royal egret
Guillimans sucks too
tall phoenix
It would be even funnier if it was written by Kyme
safe plover
we ARGUED about a book you didnt finish
royal egret
No, we didn’t
safe plover
man
royal egret
I finished Vulkan Lives, you’re just constantly acting like I didn’t remember a minor detail as saying I didn’t read it
safe plover
dorns is slop
royal egret
When I thought you were talking about Angrons nails, and also I don’t need to remember every detail of a book I read like ten years ago
safe plover
and most of the short primarch stories are slop too
safe plover
This is why once more I implore people to read Warhammer Crime instead
any day now 🚬
just 3 more years until i finish the heresy
royal egret
There’s a lot of bad ones. Personally I don’t really think there’s much reason for you to continue the heresy if you’re not enjoying these books, it’s not gonna improve a lot.
But who knows
safe plover
when did i say i wasnt enjoying it
the only books i hated so far were legion and ploraeaepreotion of dorn
royal egret
That is what “Mid” and “slop” would imply
royal egret
Yes and
tall phoenix
my god do you love to argue
You get used to it.
tall phoenix
Leave me for last, I hate warhammer
safe plover
no just him so we can argue in the warp for all eternity
royal egret
Once you stop giving bad takes I’ll stop disagreeing with them.
But I expect that won’t let up anytime soon.
safe plover
🙄
legion bad
dorn bad
betrayer really good
mark of calth shit aside from the first and last stories
come at me
royal egret
You got 50%, impressive
night sand
Where do I start if I want to read about the salamanders, or what are some good salamander centric books
tall phoenix
Yeah just an FYI from the start since you're a beginner, 95% of Salamander books are absolutely dull or terrible due to them largely having 1 author that only writes their fluff minus some exceptions
(and even those book kinda suck a bit)
royal egret
Now ask him about the Kyme books
safe plover
I dislike Praetorian of Dorn
royal egret
And Battle for the Abyss
safe plover
battle of the abyss is ok
unborn merlin
vulkan lives was really good
I...well...I can't judge too much since I'm the biggest Damnation of Pythons defender but oof.
Did you know Vulkan lives?
tall phoenix
I...well...I can't judge too much since I'm the biggest Damnation of Pythons def...
you're gonna hang beside him dont worry
unborn merlin
safe plover
you're gonna hang beside him dont worry
🙄 oh shut up you agree with me
tall phoenix
🙄 oh shut up you agree with me
I HATE THE BOOK
safe plover
vulkan lives?
tall phoenix
Battle for the Abyss 
safe plover
ehhh
its "readable" imo
the interactions between the space marines of different legions were nice
i didnt care much for the plot
unborn merlin
It's a great book for insomniacs.
safe plover
dorns book helped me sleep 
celest heron
dorns book helped me sleep <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
This is why he wrote them
cerulean peak
I've started reading Fulgrim... when does the degeneracy starts? Or will I be stuck reading about EC being pompous pricks for 400-500 pages?
safe plover
I've started reading Fulgrim... when does the degeneracy starts? Or will I be s...
it starts pretty quickly
how far along are you?
cerulean peak
They just announced they're going to split the fleet (also introducing Lucius and Saul to the council). I guess Eidolon's fleet is leading up to the events with the Megarachnids
That musician girl is also salty because she was cockblocked
iron ore
It picks up
safe plover
unless @royal egret wants to comment something controversial
iron ore
Depends on the reader I guess
It's more of an IQ thing usually
safe plover
its a very good book
cerulean peak
But I can't help but cringe each time Fulgrim speaks lol
royal egret
I liked Fulgrim but it has some issues and caused a lot of problems for the later heresy
But it’s not really the books fault
cerulean peak
I hope! I haven't got myself spoiled for this one
safe plover
they portray the worst of people its a very good book
safe plover
I liked Fulgrim but it has some issues and caused a lot of problems for the late...
do you mean the bullshit with the shattered reflection?
or the bullshit with ||lucius||
royal egret
That and other stuff
safe plover
yeah on its own its very good though its well worth the time
cerulean peak
So far the flight of the eisenstein was my fav
safe plover
books 2-4 are some of the best
cerulean peak
There's only galaxy in flames that was... dragging?
safe plover
nah its good too
cerulean peak
It was fine but it felt long
safe plover
tbh the events of books 2-4 merge a lot for me
cerulean peak
Have you read the dark angel ones?
royal egret
It’s not bad it’s just early heresy has some issues and rushes stuff
cerulean peak
I feel like they're skippable
cerulean peak
Yea
royal egret
Yeah
safe plover
i liked it
cerulean peak
6th
safe plover
its not directly relevant to the heresy tho
royal egret
Oh course you did
cerulean peak
I was planning to skip it to Legion after Fulgrim
royal egret
Battle for the Abyss’s strongest champion
safe plover
i hated legion
royal egret
Look I’m not upset you like it
I’m glad you did
It’s just you know, most people don’t so it’s best to gauge your recommendations based off that
safe plover
@cerulean peak look best advice i can give you here is read more books find out which #40k-book-club poster you agree with most and follow their advice
royal egret
I will say it’s better than people say
cerulean peak
I almost want to read BftA for the meme but last time I did something like it I regretted it || dawn of war by c s goto||
royal egret
It’s mostly just a nothing book
It’s got its moments but it doesn’t matter really
Also word bearers are complete chumps to a squad of like
5 or something
cerulean peak
<@133316128582795264> look best advice i can give you here is read more books fi...
I made my reading list based on Arbitor Ian's video
royal egret
Can’t recall
tall phoenix
I've heard either the book is boring or based
Its a very "ok" book.
ill say tho people EXTREMELY overhype the "gross" stuff in it
maybe its me not giving a shit but like the violence people say is "horrifying" is pretty mid?
like wow she used bodily fluids to paint a picture, ok
royal egret
Same with Damnation of Pythos, it’s got some stuff I liked but largely it’s just not well done and doesn’t matter.
Observe the art of the Blood and Coom painting technique
cerulean peak
ill say tho people EXTREMELY overhype the "gross" stuff in it
That varies for people. Some are horrified by grim stuff in 40k whereas i'm just like "neat"
tall phoenix
where its just people killing each other which readers also say was "scary"
safe plover
smh
tall phoenix
and i was like "I guess?"
safe plover
you people need to spoiler everything
cerulean peak
I guess the internet broke me
tall phoenix
you people need to spoiler everything
Never. Suffer.
royal egret
My issue with Fulgrim is primarily that it’s a lot of big events that happen very fast
tall phoenix
also same, like i legit did not find anything gross in this book
royal egret
Well you’re also a degenerate
safe plover
also same, like i legit did not find anything gross in this book
the ||poop paintings arent gross||?
cerulean peak
you people need to spoiler everything
Spoilers are actually just a form of punctuation
safe plover
nah not me i never punctuate anything
cerulean peak
There's no spoiling books that came out in another age
royal egret
the ||poop paintings arent gross||?
You don’t need to spoiler mark the fact that a lady paints with blood and poop in a book that’s coming up on 20 years old now
safe plover
yes there is
not everyone read the books on release old man
i am not gonna spoil something for someone who hasnt read it regardless of release time
i didnt even speak english when fulgrim came out
how the hell am i supposed to read it
cerulean peak
Quick review on "Iron Hands" by Jonathan Green.
It was ok. Could have cut the chaff and made the book half the size. Passable/10
celest heron
maybe its me not giving a shit but like the violence people say is "horrifying" ...
Thats.... like normal 40k
royal egret
Quick review on "Iron Hands" by Jonathan Green.
It was ok. Could have cut the ...
It’s very very old hammer
Kinda fun for that but yeah
Lots of extra stuff
tall phoenix
the ||poop paintings arent gross||?
I REALLY have seen grosser shit (no pun intended)
royal egret
Just work with special needs people, painting with poop isn’t that strange tbh
celest heron
Just work with special needs people, painting with poop isn’t that strange tbh
Nothing beats you becoming the canvas
tall phoenix
i think the only 40k book that grossed me out in a good way was the ork human farms in the war of the beast, and the specific mention of orks having ripped out the toe, fingernails and teeth of the prisoners so they could not kill each other or themselves.
Any nail stuff is the only kind of gore I can usually not bare lol
celest heron
At age 10
safe plover
I REALLY have seen grosser shit (no pun intended)
i've unclogged sewage lines and cleaned after 5 cats in an abandoned apartment still its pretty gross
celest heron
i think the only 40k book that grossed me out in a good way was the ork human fa...
How much is human nails worth
In ork terms
cerulean peak
Lots of extra stuff
The only downsides was the "repetitiveness". They just keep mentionning the same stuff over and over. I know that the Iron hands are complexed with their weakness stuff. It comes back each chapter
safe plover
btw
cerulean peak
As usual, the admech are team killing assholes; which is a good thing
royal egret
Yeah that stuff comes up a lot in old hammer stuff
safe plover
garro short stories are good
royal egret
You’d probably like the Haar audio dramas
safe plover
i hate all audio dramas
royal egret
Of course you do
royal egret
But yes the Knight Errant/Garro stuff is fun
cerulean peak
just read the fucking book
To each their own preferences
safe plover
is there a non audio drama version?
royal egret
I don’t think so
tall phoenix
i hate all audio dramas
you WILL listen to Watcher in the Rain
cerulean peak
you WILL listen to Watcher in the Rain
Never!
safe plover
its the one exception
they were very chill with the sound effects tho
some audio dramas you cant hear shit over the speech
tall phoenix
we spoke about it
Shit, i forgor...
safe plover
it was really good
tall phoenix
also yeah its still my favorite audio-drama but im biased as hell because I LOVE rainy moody setpieces
just that opening of the city being flooded due to the storms as people are being evacuated great
safe plover
also everything else in it being good helps
tall phoenix
Yeah its great
a movie you essentially "listen" to is usually enough to sell me lol
safe plover
theres a yt video thats pretty much word for word the story
tall phoenix
OH YUEAH
cerulean peak
How long is it?
safe plover
it should have a transcript
tall phoenix
The one Weshammer did
safe plover
ye
leaden acorn
people keep talking about the poop painting and the concert but forget that marius vairosean decided to peel his face open so he could have a better experience or some other weird shit
cerulean peak
That implies i'm giving him a view
tall phoenix
people keep talking about the poop painting and the concert but forget that mari...
Yeah hes too relatable
basically me at work
cerulean peak
I will listen to an audiobook before I give a youtuber a view
tall phoenix
same.. 💀
tall phoenix
I will listen to an audiobook before I give a youtuber a view
you will NOT regret it
its literally the only fucking 40k story id get on my knees to beg for people to try
safe plover
ban speed run ^
cerulean peak
Audio stuff for warhammer is all on audible I take it?
leaden acorn
pretty sure all the books i've gotten from kindle have an audible counterpart
cerulean peak
💀 15 bucks for a 74min audio book. Is this the normal price for this kind of thing?
I guess you have voice actor work and editing
What am I to expect, is it just someone reading a text?
tall phoenix
What am I to expect, is it just someone reading a text?
Audiobook or Audio-drama?
cerulean peak
There's a difference?
cerulean peak
I'm not knowledgable about these things
cerulean peak
I read on paper usually
leaden acorn
i usually just get kindle but i heard some part about the istvaan massacre on youtube and it was actually pretty good
i prefer reading over listening
cerulean peak
I don't mind paying the money, I was just wondering what's the usual price for such things
leaden acorn
i guess if you have an audiobook membership its free on amazon
is there a difference, because amazon also just labels it as audible
cerulean peak
On audible
Labelled as audiobook on top but if you go to the summary it's an audio drama
I guess i'll listen to it next time I do cardio
sick vessel
Whoever they got to read the seige of terra audio books is very good at his job
tall phoenix
Labelled as audiobook on top but if you go to the summary it's an audio drama
Yeah thats just them not knowing labels
sick vessel
Johnathan keeble read the seige of terra
Headcanon voice of horus imo
frigid osprey
Quick review on "Iron Hands" by Jonathan Green.
It was ok. Could have cut the ...
yer pretty much. glad I read it though. it'd be cool if the Iron Father makes an appearance in the future as a kind of easter egg
unborn merlin
Keeble is S-tier
Until he voices Salamanders 
tall phoenix
NOOOOO
unborn merlin
He made the White Scars a little less cartoony as the books went on but the first audio version of Scars was rough.
So much so that they replaced the original which rarely happens.
Pepperidge Farms remembers...
royal egret
BL narrators when the White Scars start speaking
unborn merlin
lmao so true.
royal egret
Tbf idk what I’d have them do otherwise, it’s a hard line to get ride and when you have like seven different WS characters
One of them is gonna sound a little uh
unborn merlin
John Banks does a decent amount job. It doesn't sound like he's talking with a mouthful of marbles.
royal egret
It does get distracting when you start noticing their voice archetypes
unborn merlin
The WS also have a new narrator for them that does a great job.
safe plover
i just remembered
i dont understand how lorgar in betrayer ||converted angron into a daemon prince||
doesnt ||angron have to accept khorn himself?||
royal egret
Nope
First, he did a lot of the work making himself a Khornate champion effectively
Same reason his legion ends up falling easily
They’re predisposed
Second is they killed so many people Lorgar was able to basically call it in
Consent is helpful, isn’t required
tall phoenix
Yeah its suppose to be cruel irony.
Also Lorgar trying to be a good brother while literally condemning Angron to eternal slavery to Khorne lmfao
safe plover
yeah it wasnt exactly sudden his sons started using khornish battle cries before that
but idk i always felt there had to be a defining moment where they finally accept chaos like how mortarian/magnus did
but i suppose the rituals for steady slow corruption arent the same for every god
like the khorn equivalent of slaneeshi gross stuff is prolly just killing
tall phoenix
With Angron its different
hes always been just a slave, the guy has no want/deeper meanings in his life ever since the Emperor let his pals die on Nuceria.
hes tragic but also a very simplistic character, its kinda why he doesnt really get any "deep" corruption/fall scenes id say
safe plover
idk i think his mind was too damaged by the nails to have its internal defenses
maybe he was just easier to convert than the rest of the traitors
tall phoenix
Well yeah hes a numbskull
safe plover
CREATURE CREATURE
royal egret
He has some appearances in shorts and does a bunch in the siege
safe plover
Ye i wanted pre daemon prince
tall phoenix
Yeah you arent gonna get much beyond some of the stuff in his own primarch book
and again short stories etc
thats kind of it
royal egret
Oh that, I’d say read his primarch book
royal egret
Also Lord of the Red Sands
tall phoenix
Man i remember when that came out
royal egret
Is a good short
tall phoenix
also that one ye
again Angron is an extremely basic character
but the authors try to at least flesh him out
there just isnt much to work with but its a start
royal egret
im itching to get to the part where sangui beats his shit in
Wdym, he just clears his mind
safe plover
oh nononononono bros.........
tall phoenix
he gives him a good bro-headmassage
drowsy urchin
kisses him on the lips
drowsy urchin
what's that
safe plover
its an anime
drowsy urchin
I tried googling it and nothing that made sense came up
tall phoenix
No. Worse.
tall phoenix
I tried googling it and nothing that made sense came up
bruh how
Literally first result
drowsy urchin
I only read this far and thought nothing of it
tall phoenix
Damn he really doesnt know
molten temple
Finished Bloodlines, would absolutely recommend. I’m onto Outgunned, it’s giving WW2 fighter ace so far
unborn merlin
💀 15 bucks for a 74min audio book. Is this the normal price for this kind of th...
Kinda late but audio dramas have higher production quality and usually have several narrators instead of one. Sometimes they'll have music or even sound effects added in too (like voice filters for certain characters or explosions).
You can usually snatch them up for $2-$3 during Audible sales.
GW has recently been adding more flair to their audiobooks which is neat. Eidolon: The Auric Hammer has a lot of voice filters for the daemon characters which is pretty cool.
You can usually wait for audio drama complications if you want to save money.
royal egret
Genuinely most of the GW audio dramas I’ve listened to have been pretty great
Lots of shorter ones but still
molten temple
Figured I’d show y’all my entire collection up until this point
shrewd silo
I read on paper usually
If you some great audio drama listen to this.
It's read by the author him self and the author is probably one of the best narrators
https://youtu.be/dgo-As552hY?si=WiDHfyxXbpXpdpfJ
orchid herald
Need help organising 40k books do I sldo it on faction. Author or genre lik a all the abbentt verse stuff all dawn of fire and series gripped together.
brittle tapir
currently reading isaac asimov's end of eternity
you know i'm not surprised that 40k ripped off ideas from classic sci fi but i am disappointed that they straight up took the term "eternal" without any change
orchid herald
One can look at 40k as a mish mash. Of different people. Creation. Nids are pulled from aliens. Krieg ww1 prussian army. Atilan rough riders and white scars are space Mongols. Basically there isn't an ip they haven't ripped from.
royal egret
It’s also worth noting it did make a pretty unique thing from those and it’s inspired a lot of stuff since
Like power armor originally came from starship troopers, but a lot of what 40 K ended up doing with space marines, and their genetic enhancement and power armor in the lake has influenced a lot of how it’s used in media
safe plover
deliverance lost is pretty good so far
corax seems more approachable than the other primarchs its a shame hes ||gonna become a warp monster hell bent on killing traitors from within the warp ||
severe trail
corax seems more approachable than the other primarchs its a shame hes ||gonna b...
He doesn’t become a ||warp monster, he just awakens his psychic potential||
Memelore strikes again
drowsy urchin
and doesn't happen during the heresy
safe plover
He doesn’t become a ||warp monster, he just awakens his psychic potential||
no im pretty sure ||he unlocks his """""""tru""""""""" primarch form which is some semi daemon thing||
severe trail
no im pretty sure ||he unlocks his """""""tru""""""""" primarch form which is so...
No
||in the short story he is not a demon, he’s simply shadowmelding and shit but on a larger scale like the librarians in his legion does||
||everyone keeps on calling it a fucking daemon when that’s just not true, he’s just juiced up on psychic energy||
safe plover
its on the wiki "revealing the truth of the being that lies beneath the facade of every primarch's Emperor-given flesh."
severe trail
its on the wiki "revealing the truth of the being that lies beneath the facade o...
Which is that the primarchs are inherently psychic beings
He’s not a daemon
drowsy urchin
yeah that doesn't mean he's a deamon
severe trail
I beg you please read the short story
If you don’t believe me, it’s all but explicit
He’s mutated yes, but that doesn’t mean daemon
He’s still very much the same being just juiced up on psychic power and mutated. He isn’t some daemonic entity that looks like a bird, well I mean the psychic form he projects looks like a bird, but that doesn’t mean he is a bird
royal egret
They literally say in the story “it’s not a daemon”
royal egret
Nothing he does in the short is anything beyond psyker powers we see too, he does Raven Guard Librarian powers amplified
unborn merlin
The whole daemon thing is just a meme by the community.
unborn merlin
wintry blade
About to start reading the cain books, cause I’m out of any other 40K books I might like and am bored at work, any crime books besides Baggit and clodde?
tall phoenix
About to start reading the cain books, cause I’m out of any other 40K books I mi...
Quite a bit for Crime, what are you looking for exactly?
wintry blade
Quite a bit for Crime, what are you looking for exactly?
Idk, anything interesting, I’m not too picky, I loved the baggit and clodde novels, but alas there’s no third book
tall phoenix
Yeah they are more just side-characters to Crime
if I may id possibly suggest the Vorbis Conspiracy
Its an anthology like most of Crime but its really good, and has a Baggit/Clodde short story in it
wintry blade
Yeah they are more just side-characters to Crime
I just love abhumans
tall phoenix
Yeah then you might like this, the story is really good
AND even tho its an anthology it all takes place around the same event of a massive imperial ship crashlanding on Varangantua
molten temple
Niiiiice
tall phoenix
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
severe trail
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
severe trail
The dictator is funny as shit as a movie
tall phoenix
it still holds up
royal egret
You are HIV Aladeen
severe trail
Horrid
celest heron
Turkmenistan Moment
Thats the place with one attraction, the giant fire ball
molten basin
Never read a Warhammer 40K book, what's a good place to start?
molten basin
So there's not one definitive best start, I'm asking BECAUSE I don't want to read through an article to learn about my OPTIONS
I'm a little tired and that sounded harsher than intended
severe trail
So there's not one definitive best start, I'm asking BECAUSE I don't want to rea...
Yeah unfortunately there isn’t, is there a specific faction or group you’re interested in
molten basin
Well I'm glad you asked, because before Space Marine 2 and Darktide I only heard of the name Warhammer 40k
Those games got me into it, so I'd say death angels and the militarum astartes themselves?
severe trail
Those games got me into it, so I'd say death angels and the militarum astartes t...
So space marines and astra militarum?
For space marines is there a specific chapter? Or just anything.
molten basin
The 3 I know of are (technically 2) Black Templars, the.. something to do with Khorne, and the Sororitas Astartes
severe trail
For space marines I can recommend the Dark Imperium trilogy, Helsreach(black Templars specifically), and Spear of the Emperor(which is about the spears of the emperor)
severe trail
The 3 I know of are (technically 2) Black Templars, the.. something to do with K...
Sororitas are not astartes, just a bit of a fun lore fact for you. They’re unaugmented
severe trail
Astartes means augmented?
Astartes is a high gothic term that refers specifically to space marines who are all augmented super soldiers
molten basin
With 4 hearts and 6 lungs?
severe trail
For astra militarum books, Gaunts ghost series, The fall of Cadia
severe trail
With 4 hearts and 6 lungs?
2 hearts and 3 lungs
molten basin
I thought I read a tidbit somewhere saying "He was in critical condition, 3 of his 4 hearts were already failing as he knelt by the girl.
"Does it hurt?" She asks...." can't remember the rest
severe trail
I thought I read a tidbit somewhere saying "He was in critical condition, 3 of h...
That might be fanfiction or someone’s homebrew
We know marines only have 2 hearts
molten basin
Gross, I thought it was a data slate in game
woven chasm
any got some recomendations for good ultramarines books for ppl newish to warhammer/40k?
severe trail
any got some recomendations for good ultramarines books for ppl newish to warham...
Uriel ventris series, dark imperium trilogy, the Cato sicarius books
brittle tapir
i really do enjoy isaac asimov's writing style. he's known for creating a lot of classic sci fi tropes but the guy could also use words very well
blurred out a minor spoiler
also i'm just so surprised by how this book represents office politics to such an accurate level. it's wild to me that i can actually relate to a book written in the 1950's
without spoiling too much, the end of eternity has a central theme of communication or a lack thereof. I know some people at my job who act like the protagonist because they tend to think most things are intentional slights against them.
safe plover
"Iota ran a finger over the grinning teeth of her skull-mask. “Will you kiss
me too?” The man went pale. “Perhaps later?”
peak writing
safe plover
the voice actor can do like 20 voices in a massive range but only does like 1 voice for women
it sounded so funny
safe plover
ye
tall phoenix
god
safe plover
its really funny he makes all women sound 14 so you end up imagining "girl childs" commenting the most heinous acts
i think it was the same guy who voiced andromeda 17
|| do u want water :3333 u have to tell me everything before u can drink :333||
tall phoenix
Yeah the only books with female narrators are usualyl SoB ones so that sucks lmao
wide mica
Atleast we get Minthara though
tall phoenix
because that above kissing line is really hot until you hear a guy trying to impersonate a girl say it 
tall phoenix
Atleast we get Minthara though
TRUE
safe plover
i still havent listened to tales of the heresy
i wonder how theyre gonna voice the sisters of silence short story
tall phoenix
Nah they just do "She gestured this shit"
and its said in a male voice dont worry lmao
safe plover
😭
tall phoenix
haha owned
safe plover
i dont mind the gender swapped voices but i was hoping we would get to hear the internal monologue
or at least bring in an initiate that would translate
tall phoenix
yeah I THINK the rule is "only use your voice-acting segments whe nthe character is actually talking"
tall phoenix
😔
drowsy urchin
Yeah the only books with female narrators are usualyl SoB ones so that sucks lma...
Bequin books are both narrated by Helen Keeley, she's great
think she's done a few others too
TIL she also voices Nightsong in Baldur's Gate
severe trail
||Aylin is prolly one of the best Paladin representations in dnd content and dnd adjacent content lol||
iron ore
i really do enjoy isaac asimov's writing style. he's known for creating a lot of...
I have his autograph
Huge fan of the foundation trilogy
I have like every iteration of the paperbacks that I find at used book stores and the special edition trilogy they sell at barnes and noble
Dude created science fiction
I wonder how the foundation tv series is
safe plover
Bequin books are both narrated by Helen Keeley, she's great
imagine reading books in a "PLANNED" trilogy
im not touching any of that until they finish it
tall phoenix
Honestly probably for the better for once
because I remember when Bequin 2 came out and i was like
"Huh? Who- OH WAIT RIGHT"
Because it had been almost a decade iirc lol
drowsy urchin
imagine reading books in a "PLANNED" trilogy
You should, as well the Black Legion "trilogy". They're great
Especially when Bequin is basically just continuation of Eisenhorn and Ravenor
safe plover
🚬 ill just write my own bequin 3
severe trail
Lol
drowsy urchin
Bequin 2 is probably one of my all time favourite 40k books but it kinda relies on all the books that came before it to elevate it to that level. A bit worried that 3 won't live up to it and probably that's the reason it has taken that long to be written I feel
smoky bronze
For the love of god black library just let dan write bequin 3 you didn't need him to write 3 consecutive siege of terra books
smoky bronze
Bequin 2 is probably one of my all time favourite 40k books but it kinda relies ...
Honestly i think Dan's just been too busy he pumps out like 6 major projects a year
tall phoenix
Honestly i think Dan's just been too busy he pumps out like 6 major projects a y...
Yeah he says so himself at the end of The End and the Shit hes very busy
he does like a ton of non-40k projects as well even now
drowsy urchin
Honestly i think Dan's just been too busy he pumps out like 6 major projects a y...
That's definitely part of it
safe plover
i love dan and his amazing works! such as legion and the darktide story!!!!
drowsy urchin
I sense sarcasm
Hating on Legion without valid reasons should be a mutable offence
safe plover
160 more taunts... and 800 more heavy hitter kills..........
so close
wrong chat shit
safe plover
Hating on Legion without valid reasons should be a mutable offence
its written by dan abnet
and it has danisms
drowsy urchin
that doesn't mean anything
safe plover
🙄
tall phoenix
Abnett's contributions are largely just small narrative stuff
stop hating you fucker
safe plover
i can name at least 9000 loading screen tips that tech me to hate
tall phoenix
damn you got me there
celest heron
i can name at least 9000 loading screen tips that tech me to hate
Tolerance is the first step to heresy
safe plover
so tru so tru
royal egret
The background and basic idea behind the Moebian 6th was the only redeemable part of the original DT story at launch
cerulean peak
Let the man cook
safe plover
yes
wide mica
Implying Abnett would accept payment in anything other than His Majesty's Great British Pounds
safe plover
yeah true
unborn merlin
Yeah the only books with female narrators are usualyl SoB ones so that sucks lma...
Emma Gregory showing up in Saturnine had me soyjak so hard man.
I can listen to her talk for hours.
It's a shame she only showed up for that one book.
tall phoenix
Shes a queen for real
unborn merlin
I know Kelly Hotten also narrated Spears of the Emperor.
brittle tapir
stop hating you fucker
i will hate abnett for being successful while i am not
drowsy urchin
Emma Gregory showing up in Saturnine had me soyjak so hard man.
She's in pretty much every Cain book fyi
and the Watchers of the Throne series
probably in something else too
but if you meant the Heresy specifically, then yeah. Don't think she was in anything else
maybe some SoS short story
surreal vector
Currently reading the night lords omnibus and goddamn why did I sleep on it for so long
These psychopaths are such bros
simple cloud
Bequin 2 is probably one of my all time favourite 40k books but it kinda relies ...
One of my favorite books.
deft bramble
red my first 2 books in the past week - 15 hours and Brutal Kunnin, love reading so far
deft bramble
based
deft bramble
gonna start Eisenhorny series i think next
deft bramble
eyezenkhorne
tall phoenix
deft bramble
i started with people suffering and dying in 15 hrs
continued with soothing and funny orks doing coolest shit imaginable
now its time to dive into Aytheskorn
tall phoenix
Yeah the tonal shift you are gonna go through is pretty good
deft bramble
(im not gonna even try to remember the spelling of his name)
tall phoenix
Eisenhorn, its pretty basic
deft bramble
👁️zen 📯
tall phoenix
LEGIT.
But yeah Eisenhornball is pretty middle when it comes to tones, lots more focus on Inquisitorial detective shit and intrigue with a little bit of dark humor here and there
also Abnett being obsessed with girls in skintight clothing lmao
deft bramble
perfect, this is what im expecting
tall phoenix
deft bramble
also Abnett being obsessed with girls in skintight clothing lmao
AYO
tall phoenix
not even a joke btw he mentions the spy women wearing skintight shit like constantly its hilarious
deft bramble
well i guess assassins cannot be described otherwise
tall phoenix
lots of booty its true
deft bramble
im gonna keep it in mind when reading with russian translation (i can read in english but its just easier for me to do it in my native language)
btw its really good in 15 hrs and brutal kunnin
tall phoenix
Lmao opposite for me funnily enough 🇹🇷
as long as it does the job tho thats good, i just hate it when they sometimes translate in-universe terms to my language it comes across REALLY bad
like Space Marines translating to mine as "Space Seamariners" 💀
deft bramble
ohhh i understand you so much, sis
tall phoenix
LMAO yeah
since Marine for us is literally "soldier that works in sea-operations"
deft bramble
space seals 🙂
tall phoenix
deft bramble
russians are a bit lucky with it i think
lots of us came into wh40k from the release of DoW
and its hilarious ru localisation
people make memes with it to this day
tall phoenix
Theres an entire professional channel dedicated to it rn lmao
deft bramble
yeah, "Мышич"
full stratus
space seals 🙂
We already got space sharks so space seals aint so outta place
deft bramble
space wolfs, space sharks, space seals... a bunch of furries
full stratus
space wolfs, space sharks, space seals... a bunch of furries
Space salamanders lol
Just scalies
deft bramble
ZAZAmanders))))
full stratus
Lol it was a typo
deft bramble
you made it better with that
full stratus
I have literally never heard that word before in my life
tall phoenix
I have literally never heard that word before in my life
yeah its the scientific term
like Carcharadrons for the Space Sharks
full stratus
Wild
full stratus
like Carcharadrons for the Space Sharks
Haha
tall phoenix
these scientists are cooking some mad shit
full stratus
I love those guys
tall phoenix
same they are great
deft bramble
how big is the Eisenhorn series tho? 3 books?
ive dealt with the first 2 my novels pretty fast, they seemed a bit small for me
deft bramble
Waiter! Waiter! More novels please!
tall phoenix
how big is the Eisenhorn series tho? 3 books?
also has the side series with his pal Ravenor
atm its "ongoing" still
the 4th novel took 18 YEARS
deft bramble
damn, he's definitely taking his time with his investigation...
tall phoenix
deft bramble
atm its "ongoing" still
ongoing? i hate reading or watching ongoing stuff, maybe i should not start this then
tall phoenix
Uh its a bit complciated
basically
- Ein's Series starts "ends" with the 4 books'ish
- Ravenor picks up mostly covering what Eisenhorn left of
- Continues with the Bequin series which has 2 books (the second also took a decade to release and the 3rd is still not out yet)
You can still read the books well enough by themselves, their overarching narrative isnt really that big of a thing.
like Hereticus isnt gonna end with "WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO EISENHORN NEXT?"
tall phoenix
Yeeee tho thats just a normal ending
The orks just fuck everything up
and the techpriests are like
"Yeah fuck this we're out"
deft bramble
why am i bothering censoring my messages 🙂
tall phoenix
deft bramble
alright, thank you very much
royal egret
The Magos is meant to be read between Ravenor and Bequin
safe plover
nemesis is ||good||
but they introduced all the fucking assassinorum way too fucking quicky
which did result in some needed but semi unnatural dialogue to remind the reader of who is what family and what they fucking do
drowsy urchin
Nemesis is one of the few Heresy books that I never listened but I assume it just expects everyone already to know what Assassins are from 40k
safe plover
"aha cousin poison are ur specialty"
"the culexus clad in a skull mask being the pariah that they are counter acted the psykers power which they can do!(they are also called blanks)"
ok im exaggerating with the second one but some of the dialogue is like this
safe plover
Nemesis is one of the few Heresy books that I never listened but I assume it jus...
its really good aside from what i said
tall phoenix
the sexual tension between the assassins is exquisite
drowsy urchin
I'm planning on to listening to it in the near future, already bought it on audible this month. I just originally skipped it because I knew it had literally nothing to do with the grand scheme of the heresy
tall phoenix
no jerk you dont get it
they are totally gonna succeed in their mission to kill Horus
trust me
drowsy urchin
assassins are sent out to kill horus, they cannot succeed, they die or something else terrible, the end
drowsy urchin
oh I'm sure there are nice little lore tidbits here and there
hence I'm returning to it
safe plover
but yeah i feel like thet whole purpose of the book is just to sell assassin models
drowsy urchin
I've even considered trying out the Damnation of Pythos book if it has anything interesting going on with it
these two and the Salamanders books are the only ones I skipped
safe plover
like this is kind of a spoiler so ill bleep it out ||valdor crash lands somewhere and reenacts the scene from a movie where he points and people and an assassin he was out to meet shoots them from a distance||
they pretty much copied some cheesy 90s action movie
im kinda ok with it tho
severe trail
the sexual tension between the assassins is exquisite
Complete opposite of assasinorum kingmaker lmao
tall phoenix
YEP
drowsy urchin
like this is kind of a spoiler so ill bleep it out ||valdor crash lands somewher...
sounds fun, will might start on that one sooner than later
severe trail
Where you get 2 assassins who think the third is an antisocial weirdo(he is)
safe plover
sounds fun, will might start on that one sooner than later
oh my god the book released 5 months after the trailer for that movie
they deadass copied it
drowsy urchin
what movie
safe plover
the losers
drowsy urchin
no one has seen that movie, I doubt that
safe plover
i have
royal egret
but yeah i feel like thet whole purpose of the book is just to sell assassin mod...
There was no assassin models in 30k and for like half the clades in 40k at the time
Nemesis is the best at its start, it falls off pretty hard by the end imo
I kinda just wanted it to be more of their little introduction missions to whatever
safe plover
they introduced them all too quickly and kept reiterating what each assassain is
i feel like a short story for each family would have been better
severe trail
Nemesis is odd
safe plover
instead of having them go up to horus and fail
safe plover
the sibling drama is fine
but idk
the book is fine
they tried to shove in too much imo
royal egret
I’d personally put it at the upper part of the worst heresy books
safe plover
A B C D storylines were a bit much in one book
OK theres a serial killer
theres a bunch of assassins
theres inner fighting
and theres some inner fighting between the leadership in the planet wowowowo
royal egret
King maker existing now makes it so much worse in my mind too
safe plover
i liked that song in witcher 3
severe trail
If rath doesn’t make a follow up to any of the characters in kingmaker
I will be very sad
mellow knot
they deadass copied it
Fun fact - most of the books are finished several months before getting published.
safe plover
🙄
mellow knot
Hooray! I am useful for 5 minutes!
deft bramble
i noticed that a lot of books are finished pretty recently, like 5~ years ago
safe plover
fact-checked by a BL author
i simply disagree
dan abnett literally runs to the publisher himself with a stack of loose papers screaming eureka and gets everything printed as soon as he finishes it
simple cloud
The pacifist assassin too was
Wat
royal egret
Yup
Who is also siblings with one of the best Vindicares
And the book spends a lot of time on their dumbass family drama
There’s a reason Nemesis is rated very low in the heresy series, and the fact that it doesn’t really do anything for the plot is only one part
It does have some fun characters though
simple cloud
ive dealt with the first 2 my novels pretty fast, they seemed a bit small for me
They fill out as you get into Ravenor. The first few were supposed to be throwaway tie ins to the now-defunct Inquisitor game and then ended up being load-bearing pillars of the 40K canon lmao
deft bramble
They fill out as you get into Ravenor. The first few were supposed to be throwaw...
i was talking about 15 hrs and brutal kunnin\
first 2 books ive red
simple cloud
also Abnett being obsessed with girls in skintight clothing lmao
I mean let’s be real who isn’t tho
simple cloud
i was talking about 15 hrs and brutal kunnin\
Ohhh
cerulean peak
dan abnett literally runs to the publisher himself with a stack of loose papers ...
I'm pretty sure the whole reviewing and editing process takes a while
simple cloud
Sorry reading comprehension
cerulean peak
On the other hand, the number of errors i've seen in BL texts
simple cloud
dan abnett literally runs to the publisher himself with a stack of loose papers ...
I like this version better so it has become my reality
As a huge Abnett fan.
Yuge
safe plover
I like this version better so it has become my reality
hes also naked in it
simple cloud
I even like the perpetuals. A lot.
safe plover
I'm pretty sure the whole reviewing and editing process takes a while
not tru
safe plover
I even like the perpetuals. A lot.
ye same
cerulean peak
You will enjoy the dragonball primarch fights and the bodysuits
simple cloud
Oll is the man. Kind of literally.
simple cloud
Mark of Calth oh man it was a slog. I just realized what it reminded me of feel-wise
A Feast for Crows.
Like just a massive meandering slowdown.
safe plover
first and last stories of mark of calth were good but the middle was just awful
simple cloud
which like as part of an expansive Heresy corpus sure I’ll take it. We should stop and linger occasionally. But yes. Kind of bad.
safe plover
i enjoy the little slices of small scale stuff here and there
cerulean peak
I'm enjoying Fulgrim so far. The iron hands, though, haven't changed in 10k years
safe plover
and the use of perpetuals in this sense is nice unlike what they did with john
simple cloud
John I enjoy purely because Jonathan Keeble gives him an atrocious American accent lmao
safe plover
it was also nice hearing about the emperor before he became the emperor esp from people who he was more honest with
simple cloud
Yes.
Tho of course the best humanizing perspective on him is from
Best perpetual best dude
THE HERO
Malcador
safe plover
@tall phoenix i was wrong when i told you i didnt like how they handled oll ||olly's sacrifice still means something even if hes a preptual because he didnt care much for the emperor and the emperor didnt like him but olly still thought the emperor was the best hope for mankind||
simple cloud
<@166943308231344128> i was wrong when i told you i didnt like how they handled...
I got the sense that his ||death to Horus was his final death, no?||
safe plover
i havent made it that far
but i think so yeah
he said he felt something was off in previous books like it was gonna be his last run
simple cloud
He ||saves the emperor’s ass at least twice in The End and the Death, taking the three as one mega book||
tall phoenix
<@166943308231344128> i was wrong when i told you i didnt like how they handled...
Thats one of the weirdest part of the book
he literally peptalks Big E
its just weird
safe plover
i havent made it that far in yet but sounds great
tall phoenix
the trailer guys knew what they were doing
shy lark
Tempted to get the Red Gobbo collection, anyone know if it's good/bad/mid?
tall phoenix
"every"
bitch these came out like in the last few years
😭
also its simple, most warhammer books are like 300 pages or so, which really isnt that ong
you can finish most of that in 2-3 days
and ive been a warhammer fan for over a decade
cerulean peak
cerulean peak
That you after reading the entire siege of terra in 3 days?
tall phoenix
Yep
Too accurate
Arguing with any space marine fan thats also into 30k takes great lifespans away from me, hate em all.
cerulean peak
It's ok. They hate themselves too