40k-book-club

[timid cove]

I do take joy in watching people squirm about pings though. We'll have a bot for roles on launch though.

[severe axle]

lmao

[boreal condor]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-heresy-newspaper-gif-8197244

[summer garnet]

Ignore @ here and @ everyone pings

[teal otter]

I love all of you

[timid cove]

Try general server notifications and then "mute everyone and here"

[turbid spade]

nitro user disregarded

[inner crystal]

real ballsy ping here my dude. I like the cut of your jib

[gilded osprey]

Info + useful reminder. Untamed Aqshy is good Aqshy

[normal bough]

I cant read 😦

[abstract canopy]

you think it's reasonable to expect people to go around every discord they're in and manually mute every irrelevant channel?
I'm not here for books, don't ping everyone
I won't mute the channel I'll leave

[abstract cliff]

Alternatively. Stop being babies about it. it was one ping.

[tired patio]

ik how, just pointing out that his instructions are wrong. and i want notifs for actual important stuff still.

[fallen seal]

So do I get a ping when the discussion starts if I mark myself as interested?

[timid cove]

You should, yes.

[timid cove]

Wouldn't last a day as a CM smh 😛

[hot charm]

missed chance to say unchained aqshy... it was right there.

[teal otter]

That little notification sound scared me, it's a very scary sound and I don't like it. Please don't trigger me like that again, I nearly had a heart attack

[normal bough]

@timid cove You won't do another ping. You won't!

[young blade]

betatest. wanna. when?

[timid cove]

@....maybe not! I'll admit I do mildly troll once a month for the book club, but I'm not cruel enough to ping multiple times. Yet. 🙂

[timid cove]

||above my paygrade, sorry||

[low bay]

A ping? I'm calling the police

[tacit lynx]

Ya, I think it's pretty reasonable

[analog bobcat]

i dont get it, why put an ultimatum of recieve all everyone pings (game news and book club) or no pings at all, the channel notif settings are for the white pips, even muting the channel doesnt eliminate everyone pings from them

[harsh meteor]

blame discord, not aqshy

[timid cove]

That's a Discord question until we get the bot up and running!

[abstract canopy]

well that's just not cool

[stray root]

cry bout it

[vivid scroll]

just block him lmao

[stiff falcon]

what a lovely group of people you have here

[quick vessel]

oh my godddd

[copper sphinx]

thanks for the info @timid cove looking forward to next club meet

[weary crater]

I'm here for the books lol

[teal otter]

said he was gonna leave, stays to complain. Edit: I don't even give a shit about the books tbh

[shell flume]

Anyways, books! Gives me motivation to read some more, and I could certainly use some of that!

[frigid steppe]

with a single ping a book club chat became its own grade of meme chat. i love it. the drama's great

[minor maple]

there can be a pinged role for this sort of thing so you can ping people interested and not everybody else. I'm with souler and Newominus here. I only want everyone pings for gamenews and i'm disinterested in this book club. The by channel basis notification settings don't work to mute these pings.

[abstract cliff]

It was literally one ping. What kind of a paradise do ya'll live in that THIS is your problem for the day?

[cedar flare]

Although its really not a big deal at all its also a good suggestion for the future to have seperate role pings

[hearty niche]

Yes but the meme

[abstract canopy]

what are you on about, I said I'd leave a discord that spams, and there hasn't been a here ping since I said it

and the people going "oh it's just one ping" - yeah, you complain so you don't get more
why does every little issue have to have an anti-circlejerk around it? why does this derail an entire conversation? why do you have to belittle people who point out something that bothers them? why why why...
just be reasonable and treat each other well

[odd quartz]

werent you suposed to leave

[stiff falcon]

Souler just ignore them. You're being trolled by juveniles. You're above this.

[timid cove]

yes it's in the works, Hedge is working on the bot. That said, as a CM it can be entertaining to do some lighthearted nudging, even if it's for a good cause 🙂

That said, yes you've been pinged, keep it civil. No need to start a war over it.

[quick vessel]

dog bless

[hushed lance]

No need to ping the whole game server for a book channel either but here we are

[harsh meteor]

Look we get it. Getting pinged is basically a hate crime. Aqshy will now send free steam-keys of special edition and unique cosmetics as reward for this heinous and nefarious behaviour 😏

Now to the topic at hand. Regarding The GLORY of Hereticus.
Oh Emperor I love this book so much!
Chips are down, and bad things happen and oh boy it is fun to see just how badly ||Gregor will fall||

The ending is ||is simply so sad once you realize what he has done and then you think back and think that "damnit but he did it all for a good cause and it made sense and was reasonable course of action and... That´s how Warp gets you. Get rekt||

Honorable mention towards the revelation where ||basically most if not all inquisitors start puritan but end up radical. Road to hell and good intentions||

All in all, I give this book ||grimdark|| / 5, Please Dan Abnett, inject more of this into my bloodstream ❤️

[shell flume]

Oh! Can I just say I personally really enjoyed the Soul Drinkers books? I don't think they get enough credit or recognition.

Now, let's move on from that ping, right? Right.

[teal otter]

Holy Sigmar this is such a non issue that is being made into a huge issue

[silk patio]

leaving takes 2 clicks, setting zero notifications takes 4, do what you will

[hot venture]

I was gonna post a humorous ping gif but after seeing the current freakout I shall refrain

[young blade]

also, there is undeleted NDA gameplay video on youtube, should I give a link? 🤌

[obtuse elm]

cant put gifs in book chat after someone abused it severely

[frigid steppe]

yeah I wanted to meme on it a little more too but figured i'd hold off

[storm stump]

🏓

[cedar flare]

I respect it

[vagrant trench]

I still haven't started my reading the Eisenhorn books, kinda saving it for a special occasion, still reading the farsight 2nd book atm

[mellow knot]

Ping me. I need the validation.

[tacit lynx]

I'm saving it for when I get caught up with the Horus Heresy! Book 35 and counting...

[runic fiber]

oh shit I missed the ping

because I actually manage my settings instead of fucking myself with constant notifs like a clown

[thorn bison]

Damn, I'd love to participate in the Hereticus club discussion but alas, It's planned to happen at the most inopportune time possible so I hope you all have fun!

[toxic nebula]

morning

[topaz swan]

go back to bed

[toxic nebula]

no

[thorn bison]

YO WOOOOOOOOOO MY BOOKS ARRIVED THREE WEEKS LATE BUT THEY'RE HERE NOW

I am very happy

Time to not speak to anyone for a few days while I do nothing but read

[harsh meteor]

what books ya got?

[thorn bison]

Twice-Dead King: Ruin
Witch Hunter
Vaults of Terra: The Dark City
Silent Hunters
Inferno presents: The Inquisition

Almost done with Swords of Calth and then it's onto these ones

[harsh meteor]

one day i will win at the lottery and can afford buying black library books 😄

[teal igloo]

Same

[toxic nebula]

catching up on malleus now, works been stupid busy ended up missing the reading for it

[timid cove]

You got a voucher though! 0:

[harsh meteor]

yes i did, but have you looked at the black library book prices? 😄

[hot charm]

black library offering black market prices for contraband

[harsh meteor]

I am however saddened that this: "My Wish to Generate Children with You is Only Exceeded by My Devotion to Him
“A romance set on the reputed paradise world of Krieg.”

isn´t an actual book for sale

[timid cove]

I get the ebooks so they're a third cheaper 🙂

So I think the voucher should cover two ebooks if I'm looking at the prices right for eisenhorn

After eisenhorn we can move to straight vouchers from GW

But that means they pick what we read, which isn't a bad thing either 🙂

[harsh meteor]

i am partial to having Siege of Terra-series next

but there are quite a lot of very good books in the whole Horus Heresy-series

[drowsy urchin]

are the current vouchers for the black library store or games workshop store?

[copper sphinx]

[timid cove]

Gw store since BL doesn't have vouchers. Malleus is $14, and iirc I have vouchers for $20

[copper sphinx]

yep 20 is correct

[drowsy urchin]

that's very nice actually

[timid cove]

But after eisenhorn vouchers will cover the book straight up since they'll come directly from BL staff proper

Yeah I get they're pricey which is why I try rewarding with vouchers 🙂

[copper sphinx]

i'm planning to use my vouchers on the detective books that're out

horror/detective noir stuff

looks sick

and it's reasonably cheap

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-crime

very chep

[timid cove]

Crime novels 👀

[copper sphinx]

yeah, i don't know if they're good yet, but just the idea of warhammer 40k noir

tickles my fancy

[toxic nebula]

i pray they cover omnibus instead of single books so we can get the short stories those usually have

[copper sphinx]

omnibus would be dope

[timid cove]

The way it'll work is GW gives me list of books they have vouchers for, we choose one, and that's what we'll read. Anything outside that will have vouchers come from FS, usually around $20

So rn we're outside of the GW list, so I pay for the vouchers and expense back to the company

[toxic nebula]

👍

[harsh meteor]

i for one am surprised that they apparently are wrapping up the whole Siege of Terra and whole of Horus heresy

the amount of work put in is just... wow

staggering

[teal igloo]

how long are eisenhorn 1+2

[toxic nebula]

makes sense, a shame since the side stories add some fun context for certain series, but its not uber important. Def gonna recommend for the emporer as the first book after the eisenhorn series if they got vouchers for it

[drowsy urchin]

I'll be starting Echoes of Eternity tomorrow and I cannot wait for it

[teal igloo]

is all of eisenhorn just 768 pages?

[harsh meteor]

944

[teal igloo]

I can probably catch up by booktime then

[toxic nebula]

no clue, guess it depends if u include magos tho

[teal igloo]

I aint readin magos

[harsh meteor]

well, 944 is the omnibus count

[teal igloo]

says 768 for omnibus

but wiki is probably using the older published one

[copper sphinx]

they're very quick reads

[toxic nebula]

fun tho

[copper sphinx]

if you got time you can defi do 1 in like 8 hours easy

yeah they're fun reads. they aren't meandering either

[teal igloo]

time to raid the local bookstore

[timid cove]

Don't forget to check the library too!

[toxic nebula]

ye my local has both omnibus

[teal igloo]

oop theres no bookstore that carries it near me

Online: Preorder
My Store: Coming Soon

tragic

[harsh meteor]

One thing I like about the whole Eisenhorn-trilogy is ||just how badly Eisenhorn gets rekt during his (mis)adventures. Like not just the emotional and psychological damage but the bodily harm sustained and the marks and bionics and whatnot he gets left with||

[teal igloo]

This item will be available on November 8, 2022 .

[copper sphinx]

if you got a store with boardgames and such

they usually got a few warhammer books and such

[toxic nebula]

ye its great, def makes himmore compelling as a character

[harsh meteor]

drives home the high cost of his job too

[toxic nebula]

Black library website does ebooks i think

and audible has it as an audiobook

[teal igloo]

Ill probably just grab it from barnes and noble

[copper sphinx]

and how human he actually is, in a world of superhumans

and monsters

[teal igloo]

I have a 50% discount

10$ is fine

[harsh meteor]

yeah that too

[teal igloo]

oh this ones preorder only as well

[toxic nebula]

[teal igloo]

pog the ebook from BN is literally a dollar

[toxic nebula]

pog

inb4 preorder ebook

[teal igloo]

the audiobook is 60$ 💀

[timid cove]

Sometimes you can find them second hand for cheap too

Ebook on Amazon is $9

Dunno about the omnibus tho

[harsh meteor]

I kinda want to write a short story about a space marine being captured and tortured by slaaneshi lads where they try to convert him. the kicker would be about a slaaneshi daemonette ending up feeling pity towards the space marine about all the things his transformation cost him. ||among his childhood, youth, the ability to fall in love, have a family etc||

[teal igloo]

omnibus is 5$

[toxic nebula]

i just grabbed hereticus while i was out today, and rebought the first cain omnibus cause one of my friends i leant it too lost it

[teal igloo]

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/eisenhorn-omnibus-dan-abnett/1140896642

[copper sphinx]

i used my audiable sub and the monthly token on each of the books so far

very handy for like ...10 dollars a month?

[toxic nebula]

fair, i cant do audiobooks

sometimes the voices dont fit what i have in mind

[teal igloo]

I had to stop listening to dark tower because of that

[timid cove]

I once asked one of our lore masters where do I start, and that's how I learned fatshark has a literal Warhammer library 😅

[teal igloo]

when the male narrator gilbert gottfrieds all of the women

ruins it for me

[copper sphinx]

the warhammer audiobooks are pretty well done

[harsh meteor]

TAKE ME THERE! 😄

[copper sphinx]

they got some topnotch readers

[harsh meteor]

i can´t stand audiobooks because i read faster than what they can narrate :/

[teal igloo]

that as well

its good for doing other stuff though

[harsh meteor]

not that audiobook narrators are generally bad

[teal igloo]

like long driving or carpentry

[timid cove]

I remember they released a trailer with slanesh in it and I just thought of HIM from Powerpuff girls 😅

[teal igloo]

the NEW narrators for the halo books are DEFINITELY bad

[timid cove]

The voice at least

[copper sphinx]

i barely have time to actually read so aaudiobooks are top for me

i listen to them while working nightshifts

[harsh meteor]

https://youtu.be/m0nzwIuH-Lo

there´s your audio book narration

[toxic nebula]

lmao, its great honestly. Love the fact they have the only war ttrpg book just laying around

[timid cove]

I kinda wanna know what all the chaos gods sound like

[teal igloo]

https://youtu.be/XkLqAlIETkA

[timid cove]

Have they released voices for all of them?

[toxic nebula]

if anyone gets their hands on the old ttrpg books, even by accident, big recommendo reading the fluff in them

[harsh meteor]

why must you hurt me so? 😂

[toxic nebula]

very fun and cool

[copper sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG3uV1S2n9o

[teal igloo]

chuck tingle should write for warhammer

[copper sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JTLwgFhCgs

this is from malleus

[toxic nebula]

dont think so? i dont think anyone directly interacts with em, just their heralds

[copper sphinx]

toby longsworth is the narrator

it's pretty good imo

[teal igloo]

its not bad but audiobooks for things I have to pay attention to arent my jam

[copper sphinx]

tssssh having not learned how to mindsplit yet

tsk tsk tsk

[toxic nebula]

ive heard the cain VA isnt bad for their audio books

[teal igloo]

I can but Id rather focus wholly on my task

[copper sphinx]

i'm just poking at ya, no worries

[teal igloo]

[harsh meteor]

that eisenhorn snipped was so supremely bri´ish my coffee turned into tea as if by magic

[timid cove]

Yeah I need to find the slaneshi trailer but khorne in my head sounds like Doom 2016 OST intro narrator in my head

[teal igloo]

thats the appropriate voice imo

[toxic nebula]

haha

[teal igloo]

tzeentch is kenku scraw

[copper sphinx]

https://youtu.be/7o9W-7JHs_w

DOGMA

[harsh meteor]

they missed an opportunity when slaanesh didn´t sound like Alucard from Team Four-Star dub

[teal igloo]

slaanesh is this https://youtu.be/aC40342sS9A

[copper sphinx]

Doom is pretty khorne

[toxic nebula]

slaanesh should sound like they have smokers lung

[timid cove]

I think this is the trailer https://youtu.be/eeTT6emb0aQ

[copper sphinx]

oh i like that

makes my back tingle

honestly, i kinda imagine tzeentch like stratos from the old game sacrifice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPEdUuIgYQw

[timid cove]

Less high pitched then I remember it but yeah I remember it being kinda gender ambiguous and distorted

[teal igloo]

rebis voice works but it needs more reverb and clicky

[copper sphinx]

blessed be tim curry

[teal igloo]

yeah this with the iskal clicky 100%

[copper sphinx]

if oyu remove him talking about air, he literally is tzeentch lmao

[toxic nebula]

tzeentch should be brian blessed

[timid cove]

I like how you immediately knew what I was referring to

[harsh meteor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOX48CVUMMY

this works for either khorne or slaanesh 😄

[copper sphinx]

it was my goto playlist for 3 months

[timid cove]

A WISE CHOICE

[teal igloo]

definitely khorne

[toxic nebula]

Doom 2016 is a bop

although ascents music also bangs

[harsh meteor]

i will refer you to 1:03 ->

for the slaaneshi part 😂

[teal igloo]

hrmmm

idk

kakegurui protag for slaanesh fits as well

[harsh meteor]

tzeentch is SINDRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!

accept no substitutes

[median harbor]

reeeee. That is all (get book club role to avoid this issue, don't be a tit telling other people we need to manually mute channels in every discord we may be in)

[copper sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[toxic nebula]

skill issue

[mellow knot]

I still need the validation

[stray root]

Lmao

[toxic nebula]

also a skill issue

[copper sphinx]

[craggy bone]

ah fuck was away from PC for a few days and missed malleus book club. Woe is me

[teal igloo]

Streak broken, rip

[craggy bone]

surely I won't miss the next one

especially since it will probably be on the day of an important conference I'm attending

[copper sphinx]

Channel is up for 24h

Just drop a few sentences before bed on your phone

[mellow knot]

Truer words ne’er were spoken

[teal igloo]

Doesn't count

[timid cove]

@median harbor I will directly ping you now for calling me a tit

[magic sable]

I think we need more pings tbh

I’m gonna ping every person who complained personally for every time I finish a page of Hereticus

[harsh meteor]

"hey guys, PING did you know that on page 59 there´s daemon booba?!!?!!"

[runic fiber]

🙏

[coarse wave]

imo gaunt's ghosts is where its at

[real basalt]

The notification was one I definitely appreciated. Not for the book club, but for the people shitting on people pinging for a book club.

[wild owl]

as a #technical-tester i approve this ping thank you

[jaunty stratus]

I just finished penitent and wtf, the series really starts to escalate ||cognitae became just some lap dogs, a new mysterious player with the immaterial college and then not just the "eight" of the yellow king, but his own army. Though I have to say, there are a bit too many astartes in my inquisition books||

[storm stump]

i know i shouldnt click and yet i do, everytime

[silver light]

I have a pathological need to click the spoiler boxes even though I know I shouldn't.

[storm stump]

||han solo dies||

[swift beacon]

reminds me of Dan Abnett early books, when ||he didn’t have a proper portrayal of space marines. I was surprised how many there are, but yeah there are a lot. Then again, the guy does love space marines/humans for his stories||

[jaunty stratus]

||I mean, I know his Horus Hyproracy books, so Space Marines is nothing entirely unfamiliar. But throughout the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books, there was like one squad of a Kill Team, and some Traitor Marines, but that was about it. Now its Word Bearers, Emp Children, The College, Comus and the rest of the budget Sanguinus clones, Death Row. I wouldn't be surprised if the third book brings us the Blood Ravens lol||

[drowsy urchin]

||well the Emp Children at least are singular||

[copper sphinx]

Bloody magpies out to steal yo artifacts

[swift beacon]

holy shit, i forgot how rare it is for an eisenhorn book to be released

[jaunty stratus]

||for now, they had a warband in xenos too later on||

[storm stump]

inb4 lightsaber

[jaunty stratus]

yup, I'm not even sure how clever it was for me to go through the bequin books, when it took DA 8 years to release Penitent. Now I have to wait for G. RRRRRRRRRR Martin and for DA to get two open series finally finished

at least DA looks healthier

[drowsy urchin]

I'd hope the next one will come a bit quicker now that HH/SoT are ending

[jaunty stratus]

was the recently released SoT book the last?

[drowsy urchin]

No, there will be one more with two volumes

both by Abnett 😄

[jaunty stratus]

so 8 years of waiting it is🥲

[drowsy urchin]

I believe he isn't as active on the comic side as he used to be as well

[swift beacon]

FR, im gonna be honest. now i think about it. I remember he had an interview with Ars Technica channel. saying he had problems with adding astartes/chaos astartes in a writing level. Looking at penitent, made me feel iffy. This guy said he didn’t want them to eclipse the importance of gaunts ghost stories. In here, dear god man.

[drowsy urchin]

tbf I didn't feel that way with Penitent, they were still very much a separate entity beside the main group of people you follow

[jaunty stratus]

||what he did quite well imo is the power level. Where it felt a bit like a ogryn boxing club in xenos, they are now really some crazy killing machines compared to normal humans. But even then, they have weaknesses that can be exploited, which is ironically mostly arrogance lol||

[drowsy urchin]

oh yeah, absolutely

[swift beacon]

definitely, i think what people forget is how rare a space marine is, and how few there are. Bringing an army of them has to be a big deal. ||In penitent case they came out of no where||

[jaunty stratus]

||that was, what disappointed me a bit with the book. Its too much deus ex machina in the moment. I hope we get to hear more about them in the 3rd book. Though it had some nostalgia, because they are basically the outcast dead 2 electric boogaloo
for the rarity part: Thats what Pariah Penitent did pretty well. Where the common folk even discussed wether Astartes are even a thing at all and how they might look||

[magic sable]

||what’s the deal with the college? Is the Thousand Sons sorcerer controlling them?||

[jaunty stratus]

||We don't know. I hardly doubt that he controls the rest. They seem to be a ragtag warband of some sort. And with the istvaan reference, they might be quite old. But it's a bit odd as the TS weren't there same as the DA||

[magic sable]

||there’s a theory, which idk how much stock to put into, that they’re all originally of the 2nd and 11th legions who ended up reuniting after Istvaan. This would require the marines of the 2nd and 11th being absorbed into the other legions and I’m not sure if that’s canon or not||

[jaunty stratus]

||iirc they were mostly absorbed into the 13th, thats why GMans Legion was the most strongest manpowerwise and well, they are the most Vanilla Legion so the process is easier||

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> Here with a shiny new ping! Getting info from our book club participants for Malleus today! Stay tuned! 🙂

[storm stump]

reading hereticus, ||when tf could eisenhorn cut bullets like a damn jedi? I feel like I missed alot||

[jaunty stratus]

||psyker with a bonkers sword||

[storm stump]

so it was always possible?

[jaunty stratus]

at least for him, I would say.

[tulip imp]

Dan does some wonky stuff at times, and other times he fails to keep track of his own stated lore. Like what stated level of Psyker Ravenor is tends to change (up and down) depending on the book and sometimes from chapter to chapter.

[jaunty stratus]

||cutting bullets in half is at least consistent in his trilogy of trilogies.
another Spoiler ahead||
||It happens in the Bequin books too||
edit:editing is my hobby

[mellow knot]

Just to interject that keeping track of the lore is more the job of the editor than the author. It can be really difficult once you’re in the flow to remember every little detail.

[thorn bison]

Agreed, you can be writing and suddenly you realise that the last seven pages make absolutely no sense in comparison to everything else

It's painful, but it's also good for learning

[mellow knot]

I beta-read for a friend once whose heroes were driving off in a vehicle that they’d abandoned five miles away a few chapters back. It’s astonishing how details slide by.

[void stirrup]

||This is all but confirmed in the HH books. Also, the legions which helped conquer Luna, where the gene clans are, were apparently modified by the clans afterwards. Those are now the most stable legions of all, Ultras included.||

[random marlin]

It also happened to me when I beta-read my girlfriend's novel. One of the main characters suddenly drew a gun... that had been lifted off from him a few chapters ago. ^^

[harsh meteor]

Hammer space intensifies

[mellow knot]

And this is why we love our editors ❤️

[icy ingot]

Bro I’m finishing hereticus now and damn

[copper sphinx]

bros, i just found two donuts in my refridgerator

surprise donuts

i love when i buy stuff and forget about it

[thorn bison]

I love it when I buy an 8-pack of tortillas and there's 9 tortillas in it

Finding unexpected food is always an experience

[icy ingot]

You ever go to like McDonald’s or some place and they give you your order but they throw in extra food in it

They literally can’t take it back so even if you say something they let you keep it

[copper sphinx]

i once got the wrong bag in the drive in

got like 3 times the food i ordered

[icy ingot]

Nice

[copper sphinx]

was at a kfc i think

[icy ingot]

Yea they gave me an extra burger once

[copper sphinx]

i was so confused when i opened the bag

[teal igloo]

theres a burger king here, where whenever I order just fries, I end up getting like 5 chicken sandwiches

[copper sphinx]

this is not what i ordered

[teal igloo]

they have NEVER gotten my order right

[copper sphinx]

lmao

i got a place like that nearby too

[icy ingot]

Unlimited food glitch

[copper sphinx]

whenever i bring people there from out of town i just tell them to not expect the right food

yeah you'll get food... probably

[toxic nebula]

they need to patch the ai fr

[icy ingot]

If they do it will be too demanding on resources

[glass sparrow]

Mortis is done... now a small break before starting the next book in the siege series.

[magic sable]

One time I ordered a 10 piece bucket at KFC, paid for a 8 piece, and they gave me a 12 piece

[harsh meteor]

save some luck for the rest of us too 🙂

[magic sable]

This was at least 10 years ago trust me my luck has run out since

New Alpha Legion, Fleshtearers, and Tau books were announced today

Hope we get some new horror novels for Halloween

[remote merlin]

Where books

[storm stump]

i finished the book ||In the final fight at the end, his sword got dislodged from his grip but then right after he used it against glaw boii. was that an error or did I read that wrong?||

[thorn bison]

Finished Swords of Calth

It's such a generic SM book

It's good but it's not special in any way

[jaunty stratus]

sounds like a true ultramarine book then

[toxic nebula]

@dusky harbor please do not share links to other discords within this discord

[dusky harbor]

Got hacked

All fixed now

[thorn bison]

Two things to remember in life: don't get into cars with strangers and don't click any links in your Discord DMs

This ruleset will keep you safe, if a little bored

[fallow rock]

In general, dont click links you dont know

[mellow knot]

Three things to remember in life if you add the first rule of the internet.

Don’t read the comments.

[jaunty stratus]

donttellmewhattodo.youre/notmymom/Ienjoydoing/mistakes

[magic sable]

Finished Talon of Horus today and I enjoyed it so much I immediately bought Black Legion

[drowsy urchin]

Nice

[thorn bison]

This is the only acceptable reaction

[chilly loom]

Another hand touches the Beacon(the good BL books)

I read Talon of Horus then Black Legion, then bought CSM

LMAO

[final zodiac]

Never read a 40k book. Been considering getting Eisenhorn

[teal igloo]

Eisenhorns p good

[magic sable]

I’ve only read one BL book I’d consider straight up bad

Fist of the Imperium

[jaunty stratus]

Do it

[magic sable]

Eisenhorn rules

[jaunty stratus]

I mean. Even without the whole context of it being a Warhammer book, Eisenhorn genuinely a good Sci fi/crime thriller, worth reading

[final zodiac]

I'm convinced. I'll get it.

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> I have not forgotten your rewards, I've just been crazy busy as we get closer to launch. 😭 Slowly sending out requests for bookclub info now!

https://tenor.com/view/cant-talk-now-stuff-to-do-cat-busy-errands-gif-10824625

[teal igloo]

Undersandable

[full raven]

howdy should i start with Eisenhorn series or the GG one?

I just started W40k Horus heresy books in order... but i guess i can switch 😄

[thorn bison]

The Horus Heresy books are divided into 3 different series with the main one being 56 novels last I checked so that might take a while

If you want a 40k series I'd recommend the Eisenhorn Trilogy first and then you can continue onto Gaunt's Ghosts

[harsh meteor]

I second it. Eisenhorn is a good introduction to the world of wh40k since it shows various things

[teal igloo]

Eisenhorn would be good if it had some footnotes

So much of the descriptive language assumes you know the setting

[glass sparrow]

That is Warhawk done. I rather enjoyed most of it. Though I might knit pick a few parts later.

[storm stump]

Eisenhorn also likes to over explain the most random things, so its not hard to pickup the gist

[glass sparrow]

Was going to start Echoes of Eternity today... guess not since book 9 of the GG series dropped on audible.

Which means the next cain entry is going to be roughly in a month or so

Honestly I've been wanting a break from the siege just so I can absorb everything that has happened over the 6 books I binged

[jaunty stratus]

what language do you listen to?

[glass sparrow]

English

[jaunty stratus]

But gaunts ghosts is already at book 16 on audible in English, that's why I was wondering

[glass sparrow]

Not all are available

They released some of the newer books first then they started from the beginning

And book 16 is more like a collection of short stories with a couple stories setting up the next major plot lines

To be specific books 1-9 and books 13-15 with 16 being a collection of stories are currently available

[jaunty stratus]

Ohh, my lazy ass just scrolled down and has seen book 16. That's quite interesting, because the german edition started with book 1 and continued since then. A couple of weeks ago book 13 dropped, so I am not that far behind as I thought with waiting for the german edition instead of going for the english one

But the english audiobook section is far more advanced in general and has a larger choice, maybe that where my notion derived from

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> The list of info from participants has been passed along, so those of you who participated in week 2 will be receiving your vouchers soon. They will be coming from Hedge this time around!

ALSO, if you participated in the week 1 (Xenos) discussion and I contacted you about it for your info, can you add a 👍 reaction to this message so I can verify?

Thank you! 🙂

[jaunty stratus]

voucher already in the mails, thank you ❤️

[quartz yacht]

Hey guys, I'm pretty new to 40k books but I absolutely love the 40k setting especially Cadia with the cadian regiments. I've managed to buy the Cadia series by justin D Hill but I can't seem to find the second book cadian honour in paperback anywhere. Is it a case of I have to buy it in kindle? I'd prefer a paperback. Thanks for any help and info. 👍

[tulip imp]

Most older BL books are out of print.

Take a look on Abebooks. Might be available there.

[void stirrup]

Black library (Warhammer) books tend to get printed in waves. If they are popular enough to warrant a reprint. So any given book is probably out of print and commanding a hefty price

Can always check library surplus or used book stores

[quartz yacht]

Cheers guys will do.

[full raven]

haha enjoy, I just started this week Xenos, hope I can catch up to you soon.

[full raven]

Xenos is actually available and on sale on bookdepository now, you can check for any missing print there, maybe you get lucky.

[cedar surge]

Just finished reading xenos in about 4 days. Think I prefer the gaunt's ghosts books so far

[glass sparrow]

I love how casual Nassir is in EoE when he says "eat shit and die traitor." And goes on like it was nothing.

[drowsy urchin]

It indeed was quite the great scene, made even better with the later chapter

[thorn bison]

There's a third Gotrek Gurnisson novel?

When did Soulslayer come out?

And why have I heard nothing about it

[full raven]

I am only at the beginning of Xenos but I think it starts quite strong so far. Though the only other book I read in w40k was Horus Rising.

[jaunty stratus]

AcTuAlLy iTs w30k

I liked Eisenhorn more, because it's less large scale, but getting into the gaunts ghosts books was quite easier, it's more straight forward

[hexed forge]

Next book is hereticus right?

[glass sparrow]

So my only complaint with book 9 of GG is I wish we had another book with ||Wileder and Novabasky, they seemed like interesting characters and it would have been interesting to see them and Gaunt work together, but I understand why things had to happen so Gaunt could be back in command of the ghosts.|| I will say I do love Larkin's character transformation and how Rowrne is still an ass to pretty much everyone he meets.

[thorn bison]

||Rawne ain't exactly a people person, even after all he's been through ||

[glass sparrow]

||Better to have a Rawne then another Meryn.||

[thorn bison]

You're damn right about that

[magic sable]

So how did everyone use their vouchers? Since I couldn't use mine on the actual Black Library website, I used my two to get some new paints.

[serene shuttle]

Anyone heard/read Valdor ?

[timid cove]

I think you can books from the GW website proper as well

[magic sable]

Yes but my bookshelf is full and you can only get ebooks from the BL website

[vocal quest]

Probably gonna use mine on paint.

[swift beacon]

reading void stalker again. ||Uzas was fucking a real one, the crimes he suffered was Cyrions fault. He redirected his sins pointing at Uzas, because he was viewed as the most wretched being. When it was truly Cyrion’s fault, Uzas killed only dozens of slaves. While Cyrion killed hundreds, i just realized that he is under slaneeshi influence. In the end, Cyrion didn’t want his geneseed to be used. seeing how he turned out, and he regret killing Uzas. I still hate him for it.|| This series made me become a Night Lord fan, putting them in my top 3 favourite legion.

[storm stump]

[jaunty stratus]

As I stumbled upon very cheap minis, I decided to get some basic equipment and start painting again. Maybe to do it better than my 12 year old me lol

[storm stump]

im saving them up for something, eventually

[storm stump]

gonna share pics?

[jaunty stratus]

Of my old miscreations or the new ones?

[storm stump]

yes

[jaunty stratus]

Maybe, when the new ones are turning out somewhat ok, but my memories tell me from times, where I couldn't care less, if the musket barrels are wonky or what mouldlines are, just put enough color onto it. Thinning was a concept I didn't heard of in that times

[storm stump]

feel free to share

[copper sphinx]

Thinning paints is for cowards

[jaunty stratus]

With enough paint, you can't even see mouldlines, plus you can paint 5 minis in 5 minutes

[storm stump]

everyone knows you need to thicken the paint anyways or itll drip

[copper sphinx]

I just dip my models in paint like bread in cheese

[storm stump]

[copper sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/dipping-pastry-delicacies-cheese-dip-delicious-gif-14571298

[storm stump]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-paint-splat-gif-16219824

[full raven]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/audio-tales-from-indomitus-crusade-2022-black-library-books?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_1_layout_type_threes_tile_index_1_c_audiotalesfromindomituscrusade2022blacklibrary_bookbundle

I really wish they sold E-book access with it, but oh well... still a fine deal!

[drowsy urchin]

oh hell yeah

been waiting for one again

pretty decent bundle as well

[dreamy ledge]

any good imperial knight audio books or audio dramas?

[jaunty stratus]

There was a Knight Pilot in Horus Heresy Mechanicum, I really liked it, but its not Knight only, there is also the Perspective of a Titan Princeps and a civilian, who also plays a major role

It ironically got me into Mechwarrior and Battletech, because GW isn't able produce a proper Mech game with their IP

[glass sparrow]

You mean you don't like the mobile rail shooter knight game?

For shame

[jaunty stratus]

please don't hurt me like this

[drowsy urchin]

Assassinorum: Kingmaker

It's about assassins AND knights

Basically how on earth would an assassin go about assassinating a knight

[thorn bison]

"How does one go about killing a robot?"

I've heard good things about that book though, definitely going to give it a read

[drowsy urchin]

It's by Robert Rath, he also wrote The Infinite and The Divine

very quickly becoming one of my favourite black library authors

[harsh meteor]

cool stories and all but you do realize you are now a heretic right? 🙂

please report to the nearest inquisitor for processing

[thorn bison]

I would have expected him being Alpharius would have been reason enough

But hey!

You live, you learn right?

[harsh meteor]

(but the thing is, that I, too ||am Alpharius||, and we have some catching up to do)

[storm stump]

[swift beacon]

hey guys, is Watchers of the Throne, and Vault of Terra worth picking up?

[thorn bison]

Watchers of the Throne is pretty good, though I prefer the second book to the first

I haven't read Vault yet so I can't comment on those

[magic sable]

I’ve read 2 of 3 of the Vault of Terra series

Enjoyed both

[dreamy ledge]

Is king maker worth the 30 dollar unabridged audio book

[drowsy urchin]

I'd say so, although you'll probably get off cheaper if you subscribe to audible

[toxic nebula]

Gonna have to ask you dont hint at pirating, shits illegal

[dreamy ledge]

Okay

Sorry

[dusk vortex]

can anyone tell me why after Cirenholm the entire wasn't glassed?

because || the blood pact actively worship Khorne and speak his name to imperial citizens, even to the Ghosts sometime ||

or does that not warrant a complete purge of the population

[glass sparrow]

Depends greatly on circumstances, and the writer. Sabbat Crusade was fought knowing against followers of the ruinous powers, so having all of your soldiers be completely ignorant of what was going on was not going to work or even last that long. The guard regiments in my opinion were trusted enough due to fact that they have all built in a utter hatred of chaos personally to not be tempted by it and were fighting with a mix of rage and vengeance. Also Dan Abnett doesn't do mass execution of guard regiments just to bump a books body count.

[storm stump]

ive just read the monthly book club books but 2 of them he killed off a bunch of guard

[storm stump]

das against da roolz

[proven egret]

sorry account was hacked. changed password should be fixed

[final zodiac]

He is an Inquisitor of the God-Emperor of Mankind.

[granite cloak]

Is The Emperor's Legion worth a read?

[charred fiber]

Yup you learn about custodes and how the sos get back into the mix

[drowsy urchin]

Finished Echoes of eternity last night, was pretty damn good

[glass sparrow]

Simian

[stiff dagger]

Read the catachan book

It was very nice reading

[granite cloak]

Thx will give them a read

[full raven]

Hey, I am still reading Xenos, but before it I just finished the Horus rising and found this game and community.
I wanted to ask about characters in Xenos: ||Is the main protagonist and the Inquisitors created the same way as Astartes or are they "regular humans" that were augmented / got abilities or such? (grown in vats and kept genetic materials) ||

[drowsy urchin]

xenos dudes are normal humans, maybe a couple augments, bionics and such

eisenhorn is also a psyker

[magic sable]

Yeah inquisitors are still Homo sapiens, Astartes are post/trans human creations

[charred fiber]

Some Inq get augments and maybe even some enhancements but not astartes level physiological change

some also get the most OP enhancement Plot armor

[stiff dagger]

Rejuvenating treatment its pretty regular for inq

[jaunty stratus]

Normal humans, picked up from all kinds of corners, that have some kind of extraordinary traits, mostly from orphanages. They don't even have to be augmented, but most of not all get some over their years

[orchid kelp]

Being an Inquisitor is dangerous and alot of them are too stubborn to quit after losing body parts

[jaunty stratus]

Also, they live in a time, where they can regrow body parts or augment with varying quality degrees of course. But well Inquisitors are in the top notch area

[stiff dagger]

Because imperial tithe is their credit card

They get what they want

[full raven]

I enjoy the book so far even better than Horus Rising, that one was hard to get into up until the second half...

[past spoke]

Any stories set in ultramar/other nice areas of the imperium that depict their niceness? Would be refreshing to see the noblebright parts of the imperium everyone talks about in a story, most games and art and whatnot just depicts the hellish hive worlds. I heard those are only a tiny fraction of worlds in the imperium

[drowsy urchin]

stories rarely focus on those areas, sometimes mentioned or visited mostly

[toxic nebula]

Eisenhorn n ciaphas cover some less awful worlds

[drowsy urchin]

yeah, a couple visits. Liked the one in Eisenhorn for sure

Only gone through the first Cain book so can't say about that

[toxic nebula]

he ends up on a luxury space yacht at one point iirc

[past spoke]

Well that's most of the imperium right

[agile hedge]

It's a small story from Defender of the Imperium yeah

[magic sable]

Dark Imperium has some nice Ultramar scenes

[fallow sun]

Nee to 40k, what are a couple must read books?

[high ridge]

What do you like? Space marines? Guardsmen? Chaos? Or are you looking for purely lore based stuff? Or more “fluff” reading?

[fallow sun]

Looking for strictly lore, not a huge fan of chaos stuff but if it's a must read I'll check it out

[high ridge]

Not a book, but something similar ish, oculus imperia on YouTube.

He’s super in depth, and talks from an in universe perspective as a researcher given special access to all information. It’s great, and it goes on for hours

[fallow sun]

Sweet, I'll check it out.

[jaunty stratus]

there is one narration part that is on a world in the ultramar area/sector. It was in in Horus Heresy: Nemesis but like the others say, this is rarely covered because its "boring"

[thorn bison]

Just finished Twice-Dead King Ruin and damn, I never thought I'd see Necrons display any emotions other than hate anger and disgust

||Oltyx and Djoseras hugging was the best thing ever imo||

This book was far better than I thought it would be, definitely recommend it to anyone who likes Necrons

Or good books in general

[green basalt]

Have never read any 40k. What's a good book or series to prime me for Darktide?

[toxic nebula]

the inquisitor eisenhorn trilogy, they are reading it in #40k-book-club atm

its also written by Dan Abnett, who is working on Darktide

[drowsy urchin]

It's very fucking good indeed

[craggy bone]

also Gaunt's ghosts by the same author which focuses on the Imperial guard shooting Chaos enemies which we we'll be doing in DT. Lots of books but you can read the first 3 to get the general feel and the third one Necropolis is by far the best in the series and see if you want to continue

[cedar surge]

Isnt that here

[thorn bison]

That is indeed here, the # was likely for clarification

[timid halo]

The Abnett Inqusition saga is regarded as one of if not the best runs of Black Library for good reason.

[dreamy ledge]

King maker is amazing

[drowsy urchin]

nice to hear

[dusk vortex]

I enjoyed Ghostmaker more than Necropolis, though both are great books. Necropolis easily stands apart as a book that stands firm without the 40K tag

it's great literature in general

Ghostmaker has the side story format which I wished would be used more often

[granite cloak]

What do u guys think about Helsreach for me its one of the best stories I ever read

[dreamy ledge]

King maker question

What kind of assassin is Cone?

[drowsy urchin]

Was Cone the leader

[dreamy ledge]

No she was the info one

The leader was wrathe

She was the one who was like ‘you should agree with him, make our ideas seem like his ideas to him’ or something like that

[drowsy urchin]

She's part of the Vanus clade

[dreamy ledge]

Ahhhh that seems right

YEAH

thank you

Didn’t they just get a model revealed?

[drowsy urchin]

Think so yeah, at least for HH

[dreamy ledge]

I hope they get 40K rules lmao

I love them

The assassins are great

[dreamy ledge]

I hope the poison ones get models too

[drowsy urchin]

One was revealed for them as well last week or the one before it

[dreamy ledge]

Oh shit realy

OH

[drowsy urchin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/661452443422294056/1019943892222746725/unknown.png

[dreamy ledge]

Shit I thgouht that was just the HH version of the hyper murder assassins

[orchid herald]

What they real should do is create a model for each temple

Expect for the failed one based off nid and archotecholgy

[jaunty stratus]

Nope, eversors looked like they one you already know. The one eversor in nemesis fits the description of a typical assassin of that clade/temple

[sharp oar]

So just finished echos of eternity and holy shit..... I feels so close now ||but I really feel for sarrin, guess we know her fate now more sure as I think last time it was convulated...... unless the conqueror goes boom I suppose||

[glass sparrow]

So I am almost finished with Priest of Mars and... there is one subplot that annoys me with how counter productive it is. ||The Eldar subplot: to insure the future of my future children, let me chase this mechanicus fleet into a space that is insanely difficult to maneuver in without getting crushed in the center of a dead star. Typical lazy Eldar stupidity writing lol.||

[dreamy ledge]

Finished king maker

[zealous heath]

Hey so i kinda want to start reading books again, is there any story thats kinda easy to get into and interesting?

[toxic nebula]

Ciaphas cain books are pgud and easy

[vocal quest]

Have you read Helsreach?

[toxic nebula]

or Xenos, which is by the author working with FS for DT

[zealous heath]

The only book i remember reading was like 4 years ago which was about some sort of space marines

Dont remember it at all

[vocal quest]

https://youtu.be/X6BPqhza60M

[zealous heath]

They were green thats what i remember

Salamanders? i think

[toxic nebula]

probably a salanders book ye

or dark angels

[vocal quest]

Are there any Salamanders novels?

[toxic nebula]

yes

its space marines

[vocal quest]

You right.

[toxic nebula]

But ye I'd recommend ciaphas cain for easy reading, its just a fun series of books with foot notes covering lore stuff if theres anything you aren't familiar with

they are a bit lighter than most 40k books but honestly think they do a better job of showing the setting than most

[zealous heath]

oh ye i just remembered i bought like a bunch of books on like a sale somewhere a while back

lemme see if i can find those

ah found it

oh i cant send pics

https://gyazo.com/f1816ba8b43d68d57bfaebd4960619d8

i can do this

[toxic nebula]

ye no image perms in here to avoid spam

[zealous heath]

Thats fair

Those are all the books i have atleast

[drowsy urchin]

black legion is great

also a great starter for chaos marines in general

[zealous heath]

I generally know tons of tiny things bout the lore since ive been in the general fandom for like 2 years now, but wanna get properly into the books

So ciaphas cain and Black legion

[drowsy urchin]

I mentioned it because saw it on the list you have 😄

[zealous heath]

Yee good to start out with books i already have

i have a 6 hour train ahead of me in October so would need stuff to kill time

[glass sparrow]

Brotherhood of the snake is good in my opinion

[glass sparrow]

Almost done with Dark Imperium and whenever Guilliman reflects on his meeting with the Emperor I always have thus thought run though my head: what the hell did he expect to happen? The man has been strapped into a machine that has been forcing him to experience unimaginable pain for every moment of his life for the last 10k years just to keep him alive and he's shocked that the Emperor is cold towards him?

[magic sable]

Is he surprised? From what I remember he was more like “yeah dad was always kind of a prick so this tracks”

[agile hedge]

He is more surprised by the fact that he has no Humanity anymore and that he might be a god, so Lorgar was right

[rich raptor]

I think Peter Fehrvari is an underrated BL author

[toxic nebula]

whats he written?

[dreamy ledge]

My friend likes the sisters of battle what book should I recommend for their first warhammer book

[mellow knot]

https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/sisters-of-battle-omnibus-ebook.html

[rich raptor]

Fire Caste

it seems like a tribute to the southern reach style

[timid cove]

Yooo discussion this week! Just want to point out here early (and will in the initial announcement) that if you're new and/or participate this discussion, you will get a free three month streak and/or get your blank months filled up from the past two discussions! (no streak for me, sadly. Been busy with work )

[drowsy urchin]

yay

[copper sphinx]

[jaunty stratus]

i'm a bit slow, does this mean, it will be a three month streak, even if we missed the xenos discussion, when we participate on friday?

[copper sphinx]

Yes

[jaunty stratus]

noice

because my slowpokeness also lead to missing the first discussion

[craggy bone]

I missed the second discussion, this is great

[timid cove]

yup yup, correct! 😄

[final zodiac]

6 AM for me lol

[carmine karma]

Read "Xenology" yesterday night, short read but pretty good for a in-universe book/lore piece. Sucks that physical copies of it are so rare though.

Also read "Liber Chaotica" a couple weeks ago, it's primarily a Old World in-universe book but has references to Chaos Space Marines and a Primarch; makes me question why GW never stated that Warhammer Fantasy took place in 40k as a backwater planet separated by the warp or something.

[copper sphinx]

It used to be lore

Since been retconned

Fantasy is NOT part of the 40k uni

[jaunty stratus]

really? didn't they do some "we made it pretty vague in case it could be used again to connect both for money?"

[drowsy urchin]

@tall phoenix probably knows better but I think they stated specifically that the worlds are not connected, just random nods to each other as easter eggs and such

[glass sparrow]

So I've given myself to reflect on my initial impression of Guilliman recollection of his meeting with the Emperor in Dark Imperium, with his self reflection of the things he had to say after the fight with the deamon and dealing with the church, I feel like he's realizing just how fucked things were from his dads point of view and why his father came off the way he did.
Initially I simply viewed it as Guilliman was letting his emotions skew his recollection of events and so their was flawed interpretation of what was going on.

[tall phoenix]

Taking over from what Jerk said yeah at first the two universes were not connected persay but it was more of a case of things like DC™️ and MARVEL™️ doing crossovers and whatnot, ala just tongue-in-cheek jokes or references.

GW has rightfully kinda moved away from that following the End Times because it undersells the universes and them being connected already also makes no groundbreaking additions aside from “haha i know who that is” jokes

[vocal quest]

Also, IIRC all the gods and such of WHFB work slightly differently than their 40k counterparts.

[tall phoenix]

Yeeee

The Chaos Gods are pretty much the only copy paste material

Well that and the Old Ones

The Chaos factor is for easier demon/chaos mini recycling for games with daemon factions and the Old Ones is mostly due to lazy world building.

They are the Precursor Race you see in most fiction like Halo, Star Wars, w/e

[copper sphinx]

i will say though

i fucking hate how soulgrinders and the khorne bikes are in fantasy

fucking moderntech looking shit

[rich raptor]

Primarch Sigmar was implied at one point I liked it

[jaunty stratus]

Some would go a step further and say, that every faction got recycled for 40k

[jaunty stratus]

Soul grinders were kind of okish, but after I've seen those khorne bikes, I really was disappointed by that amount of laziness

[tall phoenix]

Sigmar was never implied to be a Primarch

People just make theories to fill needlessly left open holes

[rich raptor]

And it was good
bring back skaven hrud

[rich raptor]

Needlessly? The open holes are the best part of warhammer

Almost anything can happen so the player has the freedom to make their own stories

[tall phoenix]

I mean no

Some stuff are just left mysterious for the sake of mystery

[jaunty stratus]

Alpharius is sweating

[tall phoenix]

Like the lost Primarchs which thr writers said were left lost simply to parody the roman legions

Meanwhile people made up the theory that it was because people could make their own homebrew Primarchs/parent legion when that was never the case, so yeah

[rich raptor]

also good

Myster is good

What people want and what they need are different

People want to know every little thing

But if you give it to them it's just lame

SEe also: the star wars prequels

[jaunty stratus]

While we all know, that mazdamundi and settra are the lost primarchs

[rich raptor]

Solo was literally the worst movie in eyars

[abstract cliff]

Solo was passable. You haven't seen bad movies if you think that shit was the worst movie in years.

[rich raptor]

it was pretty damn bad

[abstract cliff]

It still sure as hell wasn't the worst thing to come out in years.

[rich raptor]

what's worse

[jaunty stratus]

Compared to dune? Yes. Compared to episode 8? It was quite good

[abstract cliff]

Artemis Fowl, Dolittle etc.

There's so many ACTUALLY dogshit tier movies out there.

[tall phoenix]

He gets it

[jaunty stratus]

[rich raptor]

Nah those were airplane movie tier

except for artemis fowl which i have never herad of

dolittle was ok but not as good as eddie murphy's

[abstract cliff]

You are actually high as hell if you think Dolittle was a passable movie. And Fowl was just offensively bad.

[rich raptor]

it's right in the name

[abstract cliff]

And EPISODE EIGHT EXISTS! How can you say Solo is worse than that trainwreck

[rich raptor]

perhaps it actually achieved what it set out to

Which one is episode eight

[abstract cliff]

The one where Palpatine returned

[rich raptor]

i stopped watching star wars after forfe awakens

[abstract cliff]

Via Fortnite

[rich raptor]

i realized what a waste of time that movie was

and stopped watching

i saw solo by accident on the planea nd man what a stinker

[abstract cliff]

So you have actually just not seen any movie besides Solo and have decided that it's the worst movie ever when everyone knows there's about 20000 worse movies out there.

[rich raptor]

It's uniqely bad in that it tries to ruin other, better movies

No stand alone bad movie can match it in imipact factor

[abstract cliff]

lmao

Man you must be trolling.

[jaunty stratus]

Nah, episode 8 was with the stupid chase and that sideplot that had no purpose at all. It established that you could hyper drive through enemies and they just die instantly, which kind of makes every battle pointless if you could do just this. Episode 9 was with palpi returning. But the garbage level was roughly the same. Really really bad writing

[rich raptor]

they sound bad

[tall phoenix]

Guys I hate being the party pooper but can you move this to #general-chat.

I would post a mod gif mocking myself but im lazy

[jaunty stratus]

There has to be a way to somehow connect this back to 40k books 🤔

Oh yes, inconsistencies just like warp drives and big Es Character

Saved

[glass sparrow]

8 also had Luke sucking on a space cow's tit for green milk, Leia force flying through space back onto the ship, Luke giving up on his nephew and deciding to murder him in his sleep, and Yoda's force ghost lightning bolting the ancient tree holding the sacred jedi text in it going "lol we don't need that, lmao." To luke.

How big E was handled during the HH could be seen as master class writing compared to the writing of the sequels. And I say this as someone who really does not care for how scattershot the portrayal of the Emperor was.

[rich raptor]

HH series should still have been framed as devotional literature from M37 or something

[drowsy urchin]

nah the emperor being portrayed as a cold miserable bastard is great and fitting to him

[rich raptor]

M34 then

[jaunty stratus]

But he isn't cold and miserable. He is way too often switching, because the writers have wildly different ideas of him

[drowsy urchin]

in 40k he mostly is

[glass sparrow]

10k years of being strapped in a life support machine that is inducing unimaginable pain upon you every second of every day makes anyone cold and callous.

[drowsy urchin]

true but I feel that's how he has always been but shown less of it before

[jaunty stratus]

That's true

[rich raptor]

i thought people can't even agree on what he looks like

so expecting his personality to be more consistent than his physical appearance seems unreasonable

[copper sphinx]

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/audio-tales-from-indomitus-crusade-2022-black-library-books?rdt_cid=4178066513279919755&utm_campaign=indomitussep22_annhttps%3A%2F%2F

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> If someone participated last month in the book club and didn't get a voucher, can you add a 👍 reaction here to make sure I didn't miss anyone?

[silver kestrel]

How do you get into the book club? Any specisl book people are reading or just warhammer novels in general?

[drowsy urchin]

next book club is for Eisenhorn: Hereticus

[silver kestrel]

Yay.. The third book in the series. 😅 Guess i missed the other two.

[drowsy urchin]

yeah those two were the two we've had so far

[silver kestrel]

So read it and comment and discuss it here? Time for start?

[drowsy urchin]

There will be a separate new channel for the book club discussion like #xenos-book-discussion and #malleus-book-discussion I presume, the discussion starts tomorrow

[whole sand]

Dunno if this helps anyone else astrogate the tumultuous tides of the blacklibrary HH novel order

https://www.kylebb.com/HH/HHSeriesOrder.html

[timid cove]

You could cheat, read the wiki, and discuss that way; I'd personally never know the difference

[toxic nebula]

lookin forward too it

[jaunty stratus]

luckily the wiki isn't that detailed, for whatever reason. Also, no evaluation about the writing style

[agile hedge]

Either way you win because you're forcing people into 40k lroe and not spew stuff like we had on Reddit about marines earlier today

[dreamy ledge]

Anyone else getting the black library humble bundle?

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/audio-tales-from-indomitus-crusade-2022-black-library-books

[dreamy ledge]

I mainly want cawl and our martyred lady

[low sierra]

I would consider it if I wasn't so awful with audiobooks. I tend to have to go back and reread passages a couple time because my brain just decides to not work.

[dreamy ledge]

I am a horrible reader I basically need audio books

I kinda wish there were more xenos books tho

Besides the one audio drama

[copper sphinx]

same, audiobooks is my thing

i don't have time to read lmao

audiobooks allow me to listen to them while i work

[hollow yacht]

What is a book club voucher?

[agile hedge]

Its a coupon for a price reduction for books

[hollow yacht]

Hmm, that sounds neat. Can you get a physical copy of the book with that?

[timid cove]

you can yes, but select ones that are still in print

else you can buy minis or paint

[hollow yacht]

Well damn, that sounds really cool.

Mh, looks like these books are not available in print though 😦

The Eisenhorn ones

[timid cove]

they are

[thorn bison]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/Black-Library?N=585762402+1729857655&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3ASE_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_SE_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1664478000000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1664478000000]

[timid cove]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Xenos-2015

[thorn bison]

This rather long link says otherwise friend @hollow yacht

[hollow yacht]

Hm, oh

[timid cove]

that is indeed a mighty link

[thorn bison]

Yours is a better size link, thanks Aqshy

[hollow yacht]

I guess I was looking at the wrong link then

Cool, I might order these, though I doubt I'll be able to finish 1 and 2 quickly enough to hit the third one for book club 😄

[thorn bison]

Yeah searching for Eisenhorn on the GW website doesn't show them for some reason

[hollow yacht]

Alright, I ordered the Eisenhorn trilogy. Might not be able to get done reading this for book club, but I've been wanting to read some of these anyways.

[rich raptor]

you can miss me with anything cawl related

[thorn bison]

Why? He's cool as hell

[jaunty stratus]

have fun, it started my book addiction

[orchid herald]

Cool yes, his narrative is more complicated then necessary.

[jaunty stratus]

That Linkin Park song about him was dope though

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> #hereticus-book-discussion is open! Go get your streaks!

[storm stump]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[tulip bridge]

Question bc i haven't got into them yet, are The Horus Heresy books one big story or singular stories?

[harsh meteor]

both

Horus Heresy is probably the single biggest book series made in about... ever

it has multitudes of storylines, others taking place in short stories, others spanning several books

but it mostly deals with the fall from grace of mankind

how humanity lost whatever "bright" future they were striving towards

gonna take you years and lots of money to read them all

[tulip bridge]

Gonna finish at age 3000 lmao

[full raven]

Lol "bright"

[harsh meteor]

during the times of the Great Crusade, the imperium of man was hardly the good guys even then

they just got... worse

[full raven]

I enjoyed the first Horus book, and now due to Darktide I started reading the Eisenhorn series... and quite enjoy it

[harsh meteor]

Highly recommend Gaunts Ghosts after you finish Eisenhorn series

or you can continue with Ravenor-series after Eisenhorn too

[full raven]

Though as I am at the enfld of the first novel I only have a slight idea what is the connection between the books and the game.

Where is my post? Did I hit a keyword that removed my post?

I was saying as I am nearing the end of Xenos, I think I have a slight idea what can be the connection to the game... Is there a thread that connects on that?

[drowsy urchin]

I got through 60 of them in two years 🙃

well two and a half

[calm mulch]

I've just got through the series and have now started on the Siege of Terra ones. I keep catching up then somehow ending up like 5 books behind.

[abstract belfry]

What are some book recommendations just finished the Cain books

[drowsy urchin]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Infinite & The Divine

[abstract belfry]

is that a series or just a single book?

[drowsy urchin]

A single book

[rich raptor]

Eisenhorn

[ionic shore]

Single book about Necrons. Is really good

theres also the night lords omnibus which is fairly decent too if you want some heretic content

[glass sparrow]

Space Marine Conquest: Apocalypse is turning out to be a decent book

[bleak wind]

Just ordered Xenos as my first 40k book, should be an interesting read. Anything to dull the pain of my university break times haha

[rich raptor]

For single book, Fire Caste is pretty good

[rich raptor]

Oh and read Dune

If you haven't already

Pretty big if in this company i know but just in case

[full raven]

Frank Herbert Dune is a must read.. You read it in different stages of your life you see how deep the story is

[jaunty stratus]

Inquisition War Trilogy by Ian Watson, for the more avantgarde reader...

[harsh meteor]

Betrayer is worth reading

there´s plenty of good books in horus heresy series

Gaunts Ghosts too

for non-wh40k stuff

Gentleman Bastard-series is great

and at your own peril, the two books from Kingkiller Chronicles

but you will hate me once you join the Waiters Club

the books themselves are so damn good tho

if you like detective stories then Dennis Lehane wrote good shit with his Kenzie & Gennaro series

[jaunty stratus]

speaking of crime stories, anyone experienced with the 40k crime stuff and can give a review?

[copper sphinx]

I can't, but I was also planning on buying a few lf those and reading, they seem neat

[rich raptor]

I read one or two od them . They were ok, not bad but not as good as the top tier books imo

I honestly don't remember them very well now

But they weren't bad in any way

[honest surge]

Yeah

The Augusto Zidorov novel was actually a really solid book with some good twists and turns

let me see if i can find the name

Bloodlines by Chris Wraight - very much worth the read

Dredge Runners by Alec Worley was also entertaining

The others I've read were a bit meh

[rich raptor]

I think i read uhh hungry city?

Wait no Grim Repast

Wait i just looked it up and I had no idea there were so many Warhammer crime books

[honest surge]

Yeah I bailed on Grim Repast about halfway through

It's a shame! The setting of Varangantua is really interesting, basically a decaying hive city

but they really haven't done a good job of putting good authors on it or serialising it

[rich raptor]

How do you get a job writing for BL

Can you just send stuff in??

[honest surge]

Yeah they sometimes open up for submissions

Usually once a year around August - then you can submit a spec script based on what they prompt

If you're good enough they'll commission you for a limited run of books - I think it's usually 2

then based on that they may ask you back or not

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/29/become-a-published-warhammer-author-with-black-librarys-open-submissions/

[rich raptor]

Eait they still do that? Damn

[copper sphinx]

[steady hedge]

That was a really fun listen, I love how ||smart Clodde is but they all, including Clodde, think he’s not.||

[dreamy ledge]

Has anyone here gotten the black library humble bundle?

I was wondering how you get the audio books

Is it like a code for Amazon or like the audio files

[drowsy urchin]

I got it, they are mp3 files

[dreamy ledge]

Oh sick!!

Thank you

[drowsy urchin]

np, pretty sure all the humble bundle deals are in mp3

I've got like 5 of them

[chilly loom]

The 9th will have everything the 8e ones has and more

No reason to get 8th rn unless you want to actually play.

Also if ur just reading them for lore, u probably just want to get a pdf

[jaunty stratus]

Is the current bundle a complete series of books, or is it rather a "best of", don't have a clue about everything around era indomitus stuff about what's what and what belongs to which series

[drowsy urchin]

it has a bunch of entries to different series but all are relatively new

some of them are single standalone novels and some are part of different series

like, Dark Imperium, Plague War and Godblight are part of the same trilogy. Avenging Sons, Gate of Bones and Wolftime are part of the Dawn of Fire series etc

[jaunty stratus]

Hmm intriguing, for that price

[mellow knot]

Re the open submissions: when they come around, read the brief. They usually request a specific story type/character group. So if the submissions window is 'write a guardsmen tale', don't submit your Tau story, f'rex.

[orchid herald]

Choas Daemons got the newest Codex from the orginal Faction Squats just got theres last week

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> This month's book will be The Magos!

You can find it for purchase here or wherever Warhammer books are sold: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/The-Magos-pb-2018

Because this book is quite long at 750+ pages; the discussion will open launch day, November 30, so you all have time to read this chonker of a book. 🙂

[copper sphinx]

Dang

That's a lot of short stories

[brazen vector]

Darn I’ve almost finished it and it’s the only book that’s fresh in my mind, but I’ll be away for launch week

[jaunty stratus]

So it's the short stories and the novel? Nice

[drowsy urchin]

ye, collection of all the short stories in the eisenhorn saga and a sequel novel which takees place during the bequin trilogy

a bit surprised we're doing this one before the ravenor books

[steep mango]

Oh boy. I better get reading the other 3 books then.

[sinful basin]

no Bequin ?, cowards !

[jaunty stratus]

It's basically the reading order I did with the inquisitor trilogies, me likes

[craggy bone]

yeah, it's kinda weird Ravenor's not on the list first, Magos is kinda confusing in some places without reading Ravenor books first

[jaunty stratus]

Its kind of like watching star wars episode 4 without knowing episode 1-3

but I think it helps a lot with the short stories

[random marlin]

At last, somebody else who has enjoyed Fire Caste. 😄

Although I understand that Fehervari's style isn't to everyone's taste, it still baffles me that he has so little recognition. I guess it's also because we're not following "big names" of 40k. No Horus Heresy or primarch, just people trying to do what they think are right.

Fire Caste is basically the Apocalypse Now of 40k. It has a lot of rare qualities for a 40k book, such as:

• a nuanced and varied cast of characters, from different sides, and you tend to empathize with most of them, as they all have their own motives and agendas for doing what they do. There's no moustache-twirling villain and, as you know that some of these characters are bound to meet and clash with each other at some point, you get concerned for who's going to come out on top.

• There's a Game of Thrones feel to the book in the sense that any character can die at any point. There's no plot armor here, and it makes things, much, much tense.

• Remember how, in most 40k books, the faction on the cover is the star and the other factions are always depicted as weak and/or stupid? Nothing like that here, there's no pushovers in Fire Caste, and although the Imperial Guard is the main faction we're following, the Tau and, erm, other stuff also have the opportunities to show how formidable they can be.

• No right or wrong: in the end, it's up to the reader to decide who among the cast of characters was right and who was wrong. There's no holding the reader's hand here to tell him/her "don't worry, you were rooting for the good guys (or the not so bad guys for 40k) all along".

• A take on Chaos which is quite cool: basically, Fehervari focuses on how Chaos is fuelled by strong emotions, even those which are usually seen as qualities. It results in some interesting and sometimes unpredictable character arcs.

• And finally, the action scenes are also very good.

So... if at some point, you'd like something different from Black Libary, feel free to try Fire Caste. 😉

[soft skiff]

Fire Caste is one of the best Warhammer 40k books period

[rich raptor]

Its quality of writing is a step above the others

It also has nothing tod o with the videogame of the same name

[jaunty stratus]

mean fire warrior?

[rich raptor]

oh never mind then

[timid cove]

just shoot me a dm with something about the book and I'll just squeeze you into the streak sheet 🙂

[timid cove]

yeah there's some GW reasons for that (ergo, to get vouchers they'd like more recent books), but once we get through a couple of those, we'll go back to ravenor 🙂

[drowsy urchin]

ah! That's perfectly fine

[jaunty stratus]

so we leave the Inquisitor Trilogies by DA after Magos for a while?

[rich raptor]

it should be eisenhorn, ravenor, then magos right?

[jaunty stratus]

kind of, the novel, yes. The short stories are through the whole career of eisenhorn

[brazen vector]

ah you're a star thank you aqshy 🙂 as long as you're sure - i posted some thoughts here awhile ago but ill write my thoughts fully once ive finished it soon!

[rich raptor]

There were some solid short stories

like the ones where he plays detective

[molten dragon]

750 pages ezpz
Any other speed readers?

[agile hedge]

Only at chapter 16 😔

Because audiobook

[jaunty stratus]

Regia occulta?

[rich raptor]

like Backcloth for a Crown Additional

[hollow yacht]

My Eisenhorn Trilogy just got here. Don't even have the fourth one yet. Whomp whomp. But this will still be a fun read.

[full raven]

Enjoy, i found the first book far more enjoyable than the Horus rising one

probably due to the theme and better world building

[swift beacon]

does anyone know the harlequin story, where they entered the imperial palace?

[cerulean agate]

Throneworld book 5 in the Beast series

[grizzled raptor]

Are there any good books from the T'au's perspective?

[storm stump]

thanks!

[storm stump]

@drowsy urchin The email for voucher doesnt have expiration in it, and not on GW website either

[drowsy urchin]

Yeah went back and checked that as well, it just came to mind because the Warhammer+ vouchers do have an expiration date displayed on the email when you get them

[copper sphinx]

thanks for this months bookclub @timid cove

looking forward to the next as always

[timid cove]

yeah seems one person only just saw it now. Wonder if I borked permissions. @noble rune if you read the book and wanna dm me something about it, I can put you down as a participant

[noble rune]

Definitely. Ill dm you. We gots to talk about stuff hahaha

[glass coyote]

The Konrad Cruze Primarch book was one of my favorites.

[wary cypress]

Is there a good alternative to audible?

Might there even be collections sold somewhere?

I’d rather not spend a bunch of my 12-per-year audible credits on a series with 16 books that aren’t very long

[wary cypress]

Oh wow it’s literally just audible or pirating

And audible charges either a credit or $29

[tribal crater]

I'm just dropping in here to shill Brothers of the Snake by Dan Abnett. Guy didn't need to go that hard establishing the entire culture of a chapter but did anyway. Also Sergeant Priad is an absolute chad.

[stable jetty]

I got a question to those, who read Fulgrim and Angels of Darkness (both Horus Heresy Books). I got a triple bundle on audible very cheap. My Problem now is, I kind of don't like space wolfs and I really want to learn more about the Dark Angels, but from what I gathered, Fulgrim is the better book, while the Dark Angels Book is pretty lackluster.

Is it still worth, if I just want to know more about Dark Anglels, or is it a really bad listen/read.

[stable jetty]

Humble Bundle, from time to time

[drowsy urchin]

Fulgrim doesn't have space wolves iirc, it focuses on the Emperor's Children

the dark angel books aren't great but they're not awful either

and do you mean Decent of Angels? Angels of Darkness isn't a Horus Heresy book but a 40k book

also here's a handy guide for HH books http://www.kylebb.com/HH/HHSeriesOrder.html

[grave vine]

Decent of angels focuses more on the dark angels just before being discovered by the imperium (though they do have a primitive form of power armour and bolters)

Fulgrim is about how they emperor’s children became traitor

[stable jetty]

🤦‍♂️ I'm stupid. Yeah right. For some reason, I always mix up the space wolf primarch and think it is fulgrim, because fulgrim sounds more like something belonging to more norse marine orders.

I ment Decents of Angels. The German Title for it is plainly "Dark Angels" so it is less confusing.

[drowsy urchin]

ah yeah that makes sense

but yeah Fulgrim is really good

[stable jetty]

Then I'll probably give it a shot in the next few days

Thx for the help!

[timid cove]

<@&1016281173720309760> I've gotten handful of DMs about vouchers. I will go around collecting information by end of day today (ET) and then will send them out a day or two after that!

[keen cave]

It happens when it happens, friend. We are not going anywhere.

[tribal crater]

GW's translations outside of English are...confusing at best. My personal favorite is the Requiem. What is a Requiem? It's the Italian translation of "Bolter" apparently.

[jaunty stratus]

good ol' days of Bolters being actually bolt shooting guns, and of course translating absolutely everything literally, even its a name for something

oh, and of course Roboute Guillaume

[abstract cliff]

Robert Gorillaman

[stable jetty]

lol
Well, I think Dark Angels is not too far fetched. Though it suggests the role of the Dark Angels in the grad scheme of the horus heresy, which the book apparently does not cover

[tribal crater]

Yeah other books go into that eventually. I just think it's funny that they act like "Decent of Angels" has no direct German translation.

"Abstieg der Engel"

Google translate confirmed better translator than whoever GW hires

[jaunty stratus]

I mean, we have Thor: Ragnarok. In german it became Thor: Tag der Entscheidung (extremely literal: Day of the decision) like wtf, we know what Ragnarok is, at least call it apocalypse or twilight of the gods (Götterdämmerung, which is precisely what the german translation of Ragnarok would've been)

[stable jetty]

🤣 yeah

[jaunty stratus]

there seem to be some marketing/translation houses, that do the heavy lifting for a lot of titles, but their confidence in the population for other languages than german ist extremely low

[tribal crater]

Bruh you think that's bad? The German title of all the Showa era Godzilla films shoved Dr. Frankenstein into the title. They wanted to make it seem like all the kaiju where Frankenstein's creations.

[jaunty stratus]

At least this doesn't happen that often anymore, but damn. Who sanctions this bad localisation work without any bad feelings?

[tribal crater]

I ask the same thing every time localizers fuck up a Japanese video game or anime.

[copper sphinx]

People that won't have to suffer them ofc

[craggy bone]

still remember how a guy that doesn't speak anything except english translated most of the Witcher books by feeding the polish original and spanish, french and russian translations into google translate and the translation was infinitely better than official english and croatian translation

after reading the original in polish I still hold his english translation to be second best, first place goes to the serbian translation

slovenian translation also sucks

[full raven]

She/he combined and formed a coherent sentence from 5 different languages google translated?

[craggy bone]

yep, it was on the old cd projekt red forums before witcher 3 came out, there was no official english translation at the time so fans translated them chapter at a time. Slowly less and less people translated until only that guy remained, and somewhere near the final books someone asked him how he was translating it

I think his forum name was asheral82, absolute madlad. I still remember laughing my ass of when his method failed because Queen Meve got hit with a hammer to the face losing a couple of teeth during the battle of Yaruga bridge so her dialogue was written with extra letters to show how she's lisping and having a problem talking so he just left it in original Polish because feeding translate with other languages also didn't work

[copper sphinx]

Lmao

Issues no one can see coming

[full raven]

🙂

[craggy bone]

oh shit, the thronebreaker game has that part voiced!

https://youtu.be/YJp6TG7_aM8?t=43

now you see the problem lol

[glass coyote]

wow that's pretty great lol.
I really should get around to playing the game too.

[hearty niche]

What tag do I need to talk in the book discuission channels?

However, I've been listening to Talon of Horus. Anyone else read or listen to it? Really good book so far.

That was after binging the first three books of the Heresy

[toxic nebula]

the dedicated channels are closed atm

the next one (i believe its Magos) will open at the end of the month

[chilly loom]

Talon bangs, Black Legion only gets better

We still await the 3rd book

[mellow knot]

If you haven't already, you can go to #🔔assignments and pick up the book club role.

[timid cove]

@wintry tinsel if you want your book club voucher, you need to open your dms

[wintry tinsel]

Oh

I think it should work 😂 sorry for that

[timid cove]

All confirmations have been sent out! If you participated and you think I may have missed you, please DM me! 🙂 <@&1016281173720309760>

[timid cove]

Some clarification, I'm just confirming your email here; the actual voucher will drop into your inbox within 24-48 hours.

[wary cypress]

Aw I missed the humble bundle :(

[full raven]

Which one?

[hearty niche]

Black library audio book. But they have Deathwing and Rouge Trader TTG core and supplemental books. Looks pretty dope.

[wary cypress]

Yeah the audiobook one

[full raven]

ah sorry to hear.

You can always ask HumbeBundle... support

[storm stump]

I got the deathwatch bundle cuz we play weekly and that was too good a deal to pass on

[sharp elm]

I don't understand why Abnett wrote The Vincula Insurgency before finishing the main books

It's good, but since you know what happens afterward, it feels a little dull

[craggy bone]

that's a new ghosts book? After and including traitor general the whole series started going downhill for me, read most of the later books just to finish them honestly

[sharp elm]

Yes it is. It's true that the latest are weaker than the first three omnibuses. But I really want to know how that fucking crusade ends

[mellow knot]

It’s entirely possible he didn’t. Publishing schedules are one of the great mysteries of the world

[sharp elm]

That's indeed a possibility.

[random marlin]

Why did you feel it went downhill?

[craggy bone]

the overall atmosphere changed, the campaigns started feeling more extraordinary and it kinda felt Abnett didn't really know what to do with the characters

[random marlin]

I see... So it's unlikely I'll enjoy them as I was more interested by the "band of brothers" aspect of GG rather than the sometimes absurdly overboard action. Thanks.

[craggy bone]

read up to Sabbat martyr for the band of brothers feel

as I said, really liked the book up until Traitor general

[fiery elk]

Fans of Gotrek and Felix. Who reads the books in order vs specific books? Almost done with Demonslayer looking for recommends moving forward since there are...what 43 total.

[tall phoenix]

I suggest google since the books have actual continuity

its mostly the side-stories that muddle things up but the mainline books follow each other along nicely

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/lo5627/gotrek_and_felix_books_in_order/

[fiery elk]

Sweet thanks. Def will been longest series I have tried since Piers Anthony

[tall phoenix]

No worries!

It helps that it has an actual ending so

[fiery elk]

Yes someone spoilered it for me a few years back... but I have forgotten a lot of it thankfully.

[tall phoenix]

Its all about the journey 🙏

[storm hatch]

I read the first three books of the Horus Heresy Recently, so neat, now reading Dark Imperium trilogy

I'm likely going to switch back to Siege of Terra once done 🙂

casually jumping millennia haha

[bleak roost]

My faves are still the Ciaphus Cain series. The way they're written is really good, and I enjoy Cain as a contradictory character

[uncut birch]

best guard novel I have read was 15 hours by Michael Scanlon. The raw truth of what its like to be a guardsmen.

[next yoke]

im made sad that the dark heresy novel series will never get finished. i really liked that one.
Also liked emperors Mercy, though rest of zhous books were.. meh. ... and he turned out to be a twat..

[patent pawn]

i found a couple John Blanche picture books in a charity shop, preddy gud

[cursive cipher]

that's awesome man, totally worth it I bet

[patent pawn]

was The Emperor's will, the Inquisitor sketchbook and Inquis exterminatus

was worth imo, saw the emperors might going for like £150 on ebay and price range was around £50-70

[gentle cloud]

How is Gaunt's Ghosts? I've seen it be hyped up a lot. I Really liked Eisenhorn and Ravenor

I haven't read the Bequin stuff yet

[cursive cipher]

Dan Abnett offers a way to experience 40k in a way no author does. Like literally a lot of his stuff doesn't line up with what the other BL authors do and so his stuff sometimes feels like it's own AU especially with how little his stuff gets referenced in other author's books.

The Sabbat Crusades are no exception I don't think a single other author has touched that entire "thing"

you can generally assume that if you are hearing about a 40k book without actively seeking it out yourself then it must be pretty good because there are A LOT of books that are trash in this universe

Gaunt's Ghosts is no exception if you have heard about it without even trying to find it, then it must be good.

[patent pawn]

the best book is the imperial guardsman uplifting primer

Standard issue

[gentle cloud]

Honestly, it's really hard to know where to start with reading 40k. I tried the Horus Heresy initially and found that I had to have a wiki open to understand some of the terms

I found Abnett to be a pretty good in introducing core concepts through Eisenhorn

But I really need to branch out a little