Yeah it is, even has the fucked up creepy camera angles and odd shooting style.
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
storm jungle
Same its all here
wide shots, camera locked onto the movement of someones head, gross ass closeups, tense tracking shots, ETC
thats what i meant with the "strangeness" of it, its not shot in a way you'd see most movies be made in
hollow lantern
I love artistic shooting tbh
storm jungle
Same.
hollow lantern
Adds personality
storm jungle
Yeah also for 28 it makes everything feel otherwordly, the infected especially
vagrant fox
I liked about 50% of the first 28 years later but I'm mostly positive about Bone Temple
It's quite interesting
storm jungle
Yeah its a lot better in some regards imo
spring cairn
i haven't watchd years but i watched temple
storm jungle
they arent that connected i dont think?
vagrant fox
It's a bit connected
spring cairn
guys it's connected..
vagrant fox
just a bit
spring cairn
it's in the same universe..
vagrant fox
doubt that
storm jungle
spring cairn
i have my sourcez
spring cairn
the intro is legendary
storm jungle
to be fair
languid meadow
The music and her getting yoinked in the window
storm jungle
the intro was literally fucking made by the director of the first movie just for that segment LMAO
tough haven
What do admech generally believe happens when someone dies?
languid meadow
the intro was literally fucking made by the director of the first movie just for...
Did not know that
Makes sense
storm jungle
YEP
It legit feels like a short movie too
I love the arguments/chats people make about it
people hating on the guy are also stupid lol
that stupid bitch wife ruined everything
tough haven
sacred ginkgo
spring cairn
oh nice, u saying that reminded me i hadn't watched the the trailr for the the boys s5
nice 1
young pecan
Does Admech have a religious reason for not turning psykers into tech priests or is that just GW not wanting psykers in every facet of the Imperium
arctic talon
Does Admech have a religious reason for not turning psykers into tech priests or...
They gave away the right to withhold psykers from the imperium with the treaty of mars
celest cedar
https://youtu.be/wK91hUfWHJQ?si=Hq6jvKDJaLQJ2aDn
as a billy fan, valid crashout ngl 😭
arctic talon
The mechanicus does however post psychic awakening
Keep skitarii and tech priests who have undergone awakening
uneven zealot
That is not the reasoning I expected given the usual shit I see in the lore
storm jungle
im expecting a dark fucked up punchline to this lol
arctic talon
Tbf of the 3 examples of awakened skitarii and priests one has becoming a walking nuclear reactor and is kept sealed in a lead box to be deployed as a super weapon.
One got spaced and died and the last one is self mutilating themselves due to new potential with psychic abilities
languid meadow
my fav theory is that billy and doorman are siblings
and children of the archmother and hidden king
spring cairn
crackpipe theory
arctic talon
The lead box technically doesn’t work but the skitarii thinks it does
languid meadow
it's peak
arctic talon
So they stop projecting their horrific death aura of radiation
And the Mechanicus just keep them in the box
hollow lantern
I mean
arctic talon
Nah
hollow lantern
Billy is a nickname for William
languid meadow
I don't believe the french rich woman
arctic talon
Yeah that
spring cairn
she talk like she knows him from somewhere tho
hollow lantern
I figured it was being condescending tbh
spring cairn
yeah but it's mor personal ykn
she don't sound that mean in that line
maybe she knew him pre-goat head
arctic talon
im expecting a dark fucked up punchline to this lol
ngl I don't have a punchline beyond the lead box lol
uneven zealot
I was expecting something more like Mechanicus just being adverse to things that defy their 'Logic'
arctic talon
The mechanicus studies the warp still
but there is an ability in Dark heresy for a tech priest to scream math disproving a daemons existence
which does in fact damage or banish the daemon
storm jungle
tbh its also like
the writers legit forgot to establish most Pskyer lore for admech besides "they just give them to Black Ships"
arctic talon
Yeah that also
Psychic awakening backfilled some of it but thats it
the Mechanicus really didn't have a ton of lore until like
very modernly
heady rivet
but there is an ability in Dark heresy for a tech priest to scream math disprovi...
"Nuh uh"
arctic talon
like the mid 2000's
young pecan
So they stop projecting their horrific death aura of radiation
So they can just stop whenever they want but they really like the box?
arctic talon
So they can just stop whenever they want but they really like the box?
They can't control their powers but the box works as a sort of placebo
young pecan
Ohh okay
arctic talon
the metallican explorator fleet doesn't want to deal with the headache of trying to get the skitarii under control or kill them
so they deadass just keep him in a box
young pecan
Surely that will not have consequences later
arctic talon
tbf the skitarii thinks they were chosen by the omnissiah to become a literal cleansing flame
and they're a walking cognito hazard + radiation hazard
when not in the box
this will surely end well
uneven zealot
I was trying to succinctly put into words something but im super tired and have lost the ability to write in my own native language
uneven zealot
Anyways they probably like- didnt wanna get too much behind the idea of mechanicus psykers for the more meta side of things.
Models. TBT rules. Sheets and stuff (Balancing? Idk) and having to churn out yet more damn lore.
Simpler that they just do what the rest of the imperium do but with a few caveats
arctic talon
also yeah tabletop wise the mechanicus is supposed to have the weakness of no psykers
storm jungle
100% what you two said yeah
they prob just didnt wanna bloat psyker stuff on tabletop by giving admech psykers and keeping them kinda specific to Guard/Marines
arctic talon
A lot of armies are meant to lack certain pieces in their roster
Tbf tech priests literally look like priests/wizards
lol
hollow lantern
When I think psyker I think CWE tbh
arctic talon
Aesthetically they got it
Dilara is referring to imperial factions
I’d assume
The only armies that don’t lack like things that you’d want in an army is like
uneven zealot
Does this mean that the forges are churning out Blazeforce weapons and the Force staffs for Psyker usage while having very little to do with psykers themselves?
arctic talon
Orks? Vaguely
arctic talon
Does this mean that the forges are churning out Blazeforce weapons and the Force...
Yes
uneven zealot
Kinda funny
hollow lantern
Dilara is referring to imperial factions
Give knights a psyker
arctic talon
Chaos knights only 
arctic talon
Kinda funny
It’s even funnier how there’s forgeworlds who’s best stuff is Psyker stuff like that
young pecan
Anyways they probably like- didnt wanna get too much behind the idea of mechanic...
This was what I figured tbh
I like the idea of AdMech psykers but not commonly
Psykers already got too much drip, leave it for everyone else
vagrant fox
more lore magos psykana when
languid meadow
@arctic talon some marathon story beats regarding what could've happen on Tau
which is what I thought it was before now
rose thorn
"you know maybe i was wrong about berserk being gay media"
opesn berserk
"this is the gayest shit ive ever seen"
rose thorn
<@255478624851853312> some marathon story beats regarding what could've happen o...
MARATHON!!!!!!!!!!!!!
laos shit i might need to play the new marathon
storm jungle
"you know maybe i was wrong about berserk being gay media"
*opesn berserk*
"th...
Guts/Griffith is my favorite yaoi
rose thorn
Guts/Griffith is my favorite yaoi
truth nuke
raven stone
I mean TBF the gay happens before shit hits the fan
rose thorn
the light of yaoi will pierce the dark veil of hetero
rose thorn
my friend is showing me the gay of after shit hits the fan too lmao
raven stone
oh lol
mossy peak
do space marines have a libido
raven stone
Nope
Literally removed it out of their head, replaced it with autism-levels of focus on nothing but warfare
paper haven
Guts/Griffith is my favorite yaoi
Griffith didn't handle the break up well
paper haven
do space marines have a libido
Nope. Hypno conditioning removes that and other impulses entirely. It happens with chaos space Marines because their process is less stringent.
raven stone
Or because they quite literally undo their own Imperial brainwashing, in a sense.
paper haven
I think Space wolves have libido, but the book I read it in had only vaguely hinted at it
languid meadow
they're turned into marines much later than other chapters usually
and some have had kids before they get fully marinified iirc
opaque coyote
I think it's also implied that when you turn into an SM, your sex drive is just
Gone
last stone
chemical castration?
languid meadow
are only real thing on it is Lukas saying he "entertains" the women of tribes he's connected to when not at the fang but it's Lukas so
shouldn't take what he says seriously
languid meadow
chemical castration?
i think it's more like the process + indoctrination really kicks it out of you
opaque coyote
are only real thing on it is Lukas saying he "entertains" the women of tribes he...
Considering Lukas
He could either
A) Actually be doing what he's directly implying (very unlikely)
B) entertaining in the sense of leading on women only to blueball them worse than Tzeentch's realm
C) Actually entertaining them via stories
D) Lying (duh)
languid meadow
examples like the space wolves are VERY rare since again they're turned into marines much later than usual and or boys are doing well teen stuff since fenris is so harsh they're kind of pressured into doing the do early
opaque coyote
"FUCK NOW YOUR YOUNGER SIBLING JUST GOT EATEN BY OUR NOT WOLVES!"
languid meadow
so many marines of the wolves have fucked and some have kids/grandkids/great grand kids/ great great grand kids
opaque coyote
languid meadow
but unlike sallies they usually never keep with them
opaque coyote
so many marines of the wolves have fucked and some have kids/grandkids/great gra...
I doubt they ever join family reunions
But I doubt the chances of them going to one are zero
languid meadow
I mean marines are more "human" than a lot of other chapters but yeah I don't think they would
seems like familal bonds are mostly a sally thing with a sprinkle of UM in there
opaque coyote
"Dad, where the fuck were you, you said you were going to get the milk, not become a Space Marine!"
"BROTHER RUN."
There is a non zero chance this happened to a Space Wolf
languid meadow
despite wolves having very inconsistent writing they're unironically very realistic lol
they just straight up act like real enlisted in our militaries now
mossy peak
Literally removed it out of their head, replaced it with autism-levels of focus ...
😔 rip my kharn selfship
limpid granite
despite wolves having very inconsistent writing they're unironically very realis...
Marines having intercourse at all could be seen as inviting the ruinous powers
limpid granite
opaque coyote
Marines having intercourse at all could be seen as inviting the ruinous powers
A space marine thinks "I wonder what sex is like"
Thunder clouds clap throughout the lands as Slaanesh begins singing about their entrance into the mortal realms
mossy peak
Marines having intercourse at all could be seen as inviting the ruinous powers
and slaughtering thousands isnt
opaque coyote
and slaughtering thousands isnt
To be honest, the universe probably has a lot of sex and murder that it wouldn't invite the ruinous powers
Like one SM has sex
Great
near wasp
There is a non zero chance this happened to a Space Wolf
Lukas be like
opaque coyote
Try to go through the literal trillions that are probably doing the same thing
limpid granite
Like one SM has sex
Inb4 he gets weird looking purple spots on his armor
opaque coyote
Turns out it isn't Slaaneshi related, it's just an STD that causes purple spots to appear on the clothes you wear
(different from the STD that causes purple spots AND crab claws)
near wasp
Slaneshi transmitted disease
opaque coyote
Also I always thought that Slaanesh and Tzeentch basically have little reason to hate each other because their domains intersect or compete often. It's probably just an obligation atp.
But then I realized that Slaanesh sometimes has bits of blue in their coloration
limpid granite
Slaneshi transmitted disease
I heard you get crabs from that
opaque coyote
So I'm now imagining that Tzeentch and Slaanesh have a rivalry
limpid granite
opaque coyote
Purely because Slaanesh wanted to use Blue
opaque coyote
Purely because Slaanesh wanted to use Blue
And Tzeentch was like
"THAT'S MY THING! YOU CAN'T DO MY THING!"
"why? Didn't plan for that?"
"YES! I MEAN NO I MEAN... RGGGGHH THAT'S IT. WE ARE ENEMIES!"
opaque coyote
Perfect voice for him
Although for Slaanesh I always imagined Androgynous
Still with the classic lusty tone but it's to the point where
You legitimately cannot tell whether they're masculine or feminine
They just are
opaque coyote
I read that in the tts tzeentch voice
But yeah Tzeentch and Slaanesh probably hate each other the least
Still hate each other but that's basic Chaos God 101
Their domains might as well be separate
near wasp
Khorne and nurgle are probably also more neutral I'd think. I don't really hear about them fighting often
opaque coyote
Like for Chaos God relationships in general
There's generally
"Two I really despise with all of my heart to the point of blinding anger. One I just dislike, they're kinda annoying"
near wasp
Yeah
opaque coyote
Of course they still fight cause
The great game™
Chaos based Rogue-lite pls geedubs
opaque coyote
Also imagining things like Duo Blessings. Where they're stronger but they also get a debuff because of the obvious disdain towards each other
Like Khorne and Slaanesh for example
Risk vs Reward type thing
opaque coyote
https://fxtwitter.com/matthewo1o/status/2030440227328733256?s=20
I find it funny that for Marathon 2 and 3
They kept the banger intro theme
But the music is gone
languid meadow
yeah lol
opaque coyote
For most of the game
languid meadow
no level tracks
opaque coyote
Tbf they wanted to try immersive audio and such
Which, especially for the time, was interesting
But also it's a 90s game so all you get to hear are the wonderful random enemy sounds
It's like the Doom PS1 port where it's actually near perfect but the problem is that there's zero fucking music so it feels lame
Even Doom 64 had some ambient tracks
near wasp
So if amasec were real what brand of liquor y'all think it'd be. I'm leaning to it being Jack Daniels
opaque coyote
I don't care if half the doom music is literally stolen from bands like Metallica (seriously it's basically plagiarism). Let me listen to some fucking tunes
opaque coyote
So if amasec were real what brand of liquor y'all think it'd be. I'm leaning to ...
Honestly knowing the Imperium, the Grimdark aesthetic, etc.
It's probably something ass like Bud Light
near wasp
Well we know it's not beer
limpid granite
So if amasec were real what brand of liquor y'all think it'd be. I'm leaning to ...
A sweet tasting wine
Something easy to drink
limpid granite
We out here drinking straight prometheum
limpid granite
I def think amasec is sweet
opaque coyote
Generally just the worst brand
You can think of
For alcohol
Imagine that and that's probably Amasec
Hehe amasex
But seriously though
Like you think it'd taste good?
In the Imperium??
Nah it'd probably taste like distilled piss and you need to drink like 5 bottles just to get a buzz
And the Guardsman are only allowed one during leave
limpid granite
Hmm
opaque coyote
Why do you think people fall to Slaanesh?
It's because they want actually decent alcohol for once
You can't go back after that...
near wasp
God I wish I had some shine
opaque coyote
Nah it'd probably taste like distilled piss and you need to drink like 5 bottles...
It's either this or something that would melt your liver
No in-between
limpid granite
Amasec is a popular alcoholic beverage in the Imperium distilled from wine. Its quality can vary considerably, ranging from basic brews to well-aged brands suitable only for fine tastes.[1]
It seems to be distilled from grain.[2]
near wasp
Amasec is a popular alcoholic beverage in the Imperium distilled from wine. Its ...
That's such a contradictory quote jfc
You can't have a wine made from grain
remote widget
Are there perpetuals in 40k
Or is that an HH thing only
Otherwise guilliman would have them as advisors, I would think
near wasp
Amasec is a popular alcoholic beverage in the Imperium distilled from wine. Its ...
It's either a brandy or whiskey then
near wasp
If it's from grain it's whiskey if it's from wine it's brandy
arctic talon
Are there perpetuals in 40k
There’s a single perpetual active in 40k and he’s a grey knight. He just dies a lot lol
He’s died like 4 times
Impaled by a keeper of secrets, crushed and eaten by a great unclean one and torn apart by lesser daemons
near wasp
Got me some amasec aka a giant bottle of crown
Been training a new guy at work all week and I lowkey begun to lose my mind from boredom
jade holly
Impaled by a keeper of secrets, crushed and eaten by a great unclean one and tor...
Oh so they don’t need an intact body to regenerate?
It’s just straight up respawn immortality?
opaque coyote
There’s a single perpetual active in 40k and he’s a grey knight. He just dies a ...
Honestly I still want perpetuals to exist purely because it's fun to have unfortunate but logical things happen to them
Without having them permanently be ended
Like you don't need bs plot armor.
He got shot and he died
He just doesn't stay that way
jade holly
Honestly I still want perpetuals to exist purely because it's fun to have unfort...
Just make a Perpetual a Dr Bright and let chaos ensue
Chainsaw launcher and all
jade holly
Wait what
That’s not the Dr Bright I know
The one I know is the funny guy who’s been banned from doing many things at the SCP
vagrant fox
Yes a groomer and now mostly deleted from articles
vagrant fox
Clear evidence for never trusting self insert characters
opaque coyote
Ironic given that a lot of author stuff is self insert
jade holly
I hate self inserts
opaque coyote
Yeah a lot of famous scp characters are blatant self inserts
Tbf it was when the wiki was just existing
Clef, Gears, etc
near wasp
Yeah they replaced him with a different name where needed and deleted most other references to him
opaque coyote
Luckily that was the only sort of true controversy based on that so far
So
There's that
jade holly
Clef, Gears, etc
What about the lord of the Boooterflies? Is he gone too?
opaque coyote
Tbf SCP still has a lot of cool shit in general. But it's also community based
near wasp
It's just bloated now
jade holly
Wait isn’t he actually dead in lore?
opaque coyote
It's just bloated now
True but also it was kinda inevitable
near wasp
Yeah
opaque coyote
Especially with how it's structured
And how many different versions of the Foundation there are
near wasp
Most scps just arnt interesting anymore
jade holly
I liked the idea that it was a controlled public writing project. It could be horror, sci fi, comedy, action
arctic talon
It’s just straight up respawn immortality?
Depends
opaque coyote
But that's because I like to dig deep
near wasp
Well yeah but the ratio of good to bad is way heavier skewed to bad now
jade holly
One of my favorites was… I think 3000?
vagrant fox
It's very pulp magazine, some good stuff a lot of meh
jade holly
Is that the giant eel that makes you go crazy?
opaque coyote
Well yeah but the ratio of good to bad is way heavier skewed to bad now
Eh.
I always thought that it was generally higher quality.
Tbf it's also changing standards
Like SCP 173 was considered creepy
But if it was posted now
Eh
jade holly
And then they overdid it with his powers
opaque coyote
It's a statue that literally shits itself
opaque coyote
Now he clone, he’s all over the place
One iteration anyways
jade holly
He got boring because they wanted to make him Keter class
opaque coyote
The original still exists
jade holly
imo the best ones are the ones with limitations
One of the saddest will always be “Here Be Dragons”
Damn that story makes me sad everytime
opaque coyote
Damn that story makes me sad everytime
SCP 8980 is genuinely like
vagrant fox
Zamn it's been almost a year since TheVolgun uploaded. Wonder what happened
opaque coyote
Terrifying
jade holly
Zamn it's been almost a year since TheVolgun uploaded. Wonder what happened
Prob moved on
near wasp
I thought he became a VA or something
opaque coyote
He's taking a break
jade holly
is Secret Laboratory still going strong?
opaque coyote
is Secret Laboratory still going strong?
Ye
Still getting updates and a player base
jade holly
One of my favorite clips I saw of that game was a guy turning into a marshmallow thing and throwing hands with 939
opaque coyote
SCP 8980 is genuinely like
Also I can safely say that it is 100% not for the faint of heart.
It's well written but also made me sick to my stomach and I will never read it again
I love stories of systematic abuse that will never be righted!
opaque coyote
One of my favorite clips I saw of that game was a guy turning into a marshmallow...
But also I think my favorite part about the SCP Foundation in general is the several GoIs that exist
There's the famous ones like the Global Occult Coalition.
The UN if it was competent and killed anomalies that are dangerous.
Or even sometimes not dangerous
The Chaos Insurgency, Wanderer's Library
But my favorites are the ones where they're basically just a part of the anomalous world .
Ambrose Restaurants being an anomalous restaurant company that creates unique foods and restaurants in both anomalous and non-anomalous locations.
With the foundation being frustrated because they keep making locations in places like San Francisco.
near wasp
@fervent geode hey bro would you mind adding me to bounce some ideas for vtm with you more consistently. You are very good with it all and have been helping me out tons.
opaque coyote
Ambrose Restaurants being an anomalous restaurant company that creates unique fo...
They have no ulterior motive. They literally just want to make restaurants to serve people
They just happen to include shit that Ambrose Translyvania. A restaurant entirely dedicated to vampires
opaque coyote
But my favorites are the ones where they're basically just a part of the anomalo...
Wilson's Wildlife Solutions, a GOI that takes care of the less dangerous anomalous animals located in Boring, Oregon.
Totleighsoft
A company funded by an Eldritch entity that fell from Earth, and barely understands humanity, but wants to live up to the American dream and make stuff related to computers
That is almost always weird and dangerous. Things like video games, software, etc.
near wasp
Laati apparently really likes scp
opaque coyote
Just Girly Things. A cult that basically manipulates women to be more stereotypically feminine and girly! Used as commentary against common feminine problems
And just societal problems in general
And finally Goldbaker-Reinz Ltd
...an anomalous insurance company that the foundation mainly uses
Which seems to multi-universal. Even having insurance for things like XK-Class end of the world scenarios.
And which is weirdly fair, although only a tiny bit skewed to their side.
near wasp
I was into it a bit during high school but got more into guns shortly after so that interest faded away
Now for me my hyper fixations are 40k and wod
opaque coyote
My hyperfixations are like a revolving door
They never disappear they just go away for a bit
And then come running back
As such I have plenty but my interest wanes and waxes
SCP has been one of the few that doesn't really do that though
Always fascinated
There's a lot of good stuff, and a lot of bad ones.
But it's almost always interesting
Especially shit like there being an FBI division that owns an anomalous American town known as the Portlands.
Also said FBI Division is known as uhh
near wasp
Uiu
opaque coyote
"UIUseless" to put it lightly,
opaque coyote
Tbh they're still interesting as a "Aware but not fully knowledgeable" pov
Because they still are underdogs
And definitely nothing compared to things like the Chaos Insurgency, GoC, SCP Foundation, etc.
But they try
lament shoal
near wasp
that mussilini one killed me
opaque coyote
maybe i should listen to a few again
Oh yeah also if you have read SCP-5000
Then SCP-CN-2000 is a genuinely interesting read
Also proposes an interesting iteration of the Chaos Insurgency
opaque coyote
Oh yeah also if you have read SCP-5000
If you haven't then, read 5000 first because otherwise it won't make sense
opaque coyote
Read classic con scps they're really good
Oh yeah those are great als
languid meadow
and if you're too lazy to read them I'll drop this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOZ1qGT53XU&t=866s highlights some of the best ones imo
near wasp
http://scp-int.wikidot.com/scp-cn-2000
ok thats really cool
i havnt but i will now just cause the page is so cool\
pearl lotus
in darktide is Brunt (for the armory exchange) the ogryn that is seen in the cinematic?
fervent geode
<@730031124574765066> hey bro would you mind adding me to bounce some ideas for ...
Sure man idm, but i am sorry to say do randomly disappear from the internet for months on end so uhhhh, if you dm that wait sometimes that feel free to throw me an add request
Also i might disappear in april and may got some things happening
celest cedar
https://youtube.com/shorts/cacyfW2hj4M?si=yY_zNbnx-PPlz9s2 stupid sexy Leon
opaque coyote
paper haven
You guys doing alright?
tough haven
heady rivet
Exciting things happening in Syria
misty vector
Any recommendations on starter books for 40k?
There is a pinned message in #40k-book-club that has an extensive list of places to start, depending on which faction you’re interested in
civic gale
There is a pinned message in <#978614564516139008> that has an extensive list of...
Oh that channel exists
My bad
misty vector
No worries
fervent geode
I usually recommend Eisenhorn, Ciaphas Cain or Gaunt's Ghosts to start
I have an agenda to push, but not today
last stone
Jeeh, I wonder what "Evil word bearers" favorite faction is
opaque coyote
@crystal forum https://youtu.be/2lTgtnz-Gug?si=ZGr94RUP4nhpImN3
fervent geode
Jeeh, I wonder what "Evil word bearers" favorite faction is
Chaos Knights believe it or not
vagrant fox
I thought better of you
fervent geode
Im evil
limpid granite
hopefully expeditions can use wave glider as a track
summer mural
Is valkia in aos
rocky gale
Yes
She's mentioned in basically every Khorne Battletome
"Valkia, appreciating his warrior spirit and tactical mind, showed him the honour of throwing Slaupnir through his heart."
storm jungle
Based?
rocky gale
Sic semper homini
rocky gale
Is that your fursona?
fervent geode
Deathwatch Black Dragon is quite a unique fursona
vagrant fox
ghoulish notion
rose thorn
I had a dream that they revealed a new rhino but it was only usable in HH DA
and people got really angry if you suggest using it otherwise
rocky gale
HH Dark Angels?
rose thorn
Yeah
queen laurel
All right everyone here's a furby wearing the body of a Gorkanaut, why because I saw it and you have see it as well
daring creek
All right everyone here's a furby wearing the body of a Gorkanaut, why because I...
what the fuck
I think
I think Dilara is Jim Lahey
but the question is
who is Ricky and julian
daring creek
jim lahey is this motherfuck
I think everyone in this show is some breed of failed abortion
vagrant fox
i ain't ever seen it
daring creek
:(
crystal forum
which trailer park boys character are you
ricky
crystal forum
the show is canadian but feels VERY american
fuck you it's not american
crystal forum
they smoke weed all day and cook things with hockey sticks
crystal forum
you will not claim my heritage smh
daring creek
You mfs are just american
crystal forum
fack off
daring creek
But with a bit more sense
crystal forum
it's legal to be trans here so
crystal forum
anyways ricky is my spirit animal
crystal forum
bruh
daring creek
Really though he's just a trainwreck lmfao
crystal forum
literally everybody in the show is a trainwreck
daring creek
Yeah but none of them made bubbles develop a extra fuckin personality in the form of a puppet as a defense mechanism against him
WILD shit
crystal forum
bubbles literally just does it to fuck with ricky
daring creek
No that thing made him call the police and ruin a drug operation they were doing
crystal forum
you probably think you're julian
daring creek
Shooting you in the face
crystal forum
but you're just jim lahey
daring creek
I AM NOT JIM LAHEY
crystal forum
you are
crystal forum
you're trevor
daring creek
Philips?
storm jungle
Industries?
daring creek
storm jungle
daring creek
Hmm..
young pecan
I am a mix between J-Roc and Bubbles methinks
crystal forum
wild mix
crystal forum
j-roc is the blackest rural canadian
wintry scarab
Fun fact: In the new hit game: Marathon® you can buy a recolour for a character (not a new model), a recolour for a single gun (not a universal skin) and some jpgs and a charm. For the low, low price of £15. On "discount". If this "discount" was to go away, you would have to pay £28. I love bungie. Never change.
wintry scarab
Very fun, not worth £35 at all. If you can get it for like £10-15, its worth it
crystal forum
youtube recommending me a video of a guy playing a minstrel song on piano
i want to post it but i know i cant
wintry scarab
Fun fact: In the new hit game: Marathon® you can buy a recolour for a character ...
Also im an idiot. It wouldnt be £28 as you can just buy £4 one. So it would be £20
rose thorn
Also this reminds me i should play Marathon
playing classic marathon rn, i am hard stuck on rose 
i got soft locked so i keep going back to the end fo the mosnte rmash of the last level
daring creek
3ds
storm jungle
playing classic marathon rn, i am hard stuck on rose <:criying:11882819077173453...
idk what any of this means but good luck
rose thorn
Very fun, not worth £35 at all. If you can get it for like £10-15, its worth it
a small price to pay for Durandal
rose thorn
idk what any of this means but good luck
i havent seen any 7s in the new marathon game yet
is it eally even marathon without any 7s?
storm jungle
i havent seen any 7s in the new marathon game yet
the hell is 7s
rose thorn
the hell is 7s
in marathon 1, 2, and infinite there is a hidden theme of 7, the number 7 appears fucking everywhere
it even invaded halo and destiny
daring creek
Whos the 6th
rose thorn
the assualt rilfe has 7 grenades
rose thorn
Whos the 6th
depends on the timeline
but hes dead
the new marathon game takes place on the planet the second marathon takes place on
crystal forum
tau
storm jungle
dumbass
daring creek
It does look like tau
Ever think theyll try and bring back that old fire warrior game
Looks like complete ass
A remaster or a second game might save them..maybe
rose thorn
omg i am gonna kill every story write runder hte age of 30 they all do the same shit ever and think they invented the trope
“He he.. yeah.. you don’t play as the good guys in this game. You are just a soulless husk who works for the mega corps.”
rose thorn
You will never fucking guess what this video starts with
rose thorn
Thats what its gonna be for the next 10 years
it would be a bigger twist if the corporations weren’t the secret BBEG the whole time than if they were at this point
rose thorn
Thats what its gonna be for the next 10 years
Kill all Gen Z writers at this point
daring creek
Lmao
Ah. That reminds me of when I walked into the young reader part of a library
Man it is something
"Its time for your villain era"
I wonder how many buy a book only to never read it and only watch youtube videos about said book
Or shorts and w/e
rose thorn
The consequences of allowing people to dip their fries in icecream
It’s so funny because every story about working for an evil corporation ends with you rebelling against the corporation because every one of those writers follows the path of least resistance
“Wait… it’s all chosen one stories?”
“It always has been”
wintry scarab
Marathon lore question: How do the shells work? Because each shell has its own personality, does that mean that we arent really picking shells but instead we are picking the full person inside the shell? The way i thought it would originally work, would be: You pick a personality at the start of the game, then the shell you pick will have that personality. But thats not the case. (Note: I fucking hate how cheesy all of the shells are. Very cringe)
scenic bolt
Marathon lore question: How do the shells work? Because each shell has its own p...
in game logs kinda explain it
rose thorn
Marathon lore question: How do the shells work? Because each shell has its own p...
I can’t answer because I have no clue which of the 7 timelines the new game takes place in
7
ITS FUCKING 7
scenic bolt
goes along the lines of the process of transferring a human brain to digital kinda messes you up along the way, by having a pre-programmed baseline personality in a shell it gives your conciousness something to latch onto and fit into without producing stupid amounts of psychosis
scenic bolt
nah it's as far as established purely human tech, but who knows
rose thorn
Human tech or durandel tech?
shadow plover
Marathon's very fucking good. Best extraction shooter for sure at least
scenic bolt
yea normally not a fan of extraction shooters, never took to arc raiders but marathon kinda stuck its needles in me
shadow plover
I've got about 1k hours in Tarkov and this mops the floor with it. It's like Tarkov were fun to play
scenic bolt
I was a big halo and destiny fan so it meshes
shadow plover
Same, well not such a huge Destiny fan but I did enjoy it
scenic bolt
like so many guns are destiny or halo equivalents
rose thorn
I was a big halo and destiny fan so it meshes
scenic bolt
they got the needler
rose thorn
It’s the same setting
All things made by bungie are marathon
WERE ALL MARATHON FANS IN THE END
foggy kraken
Guys, does the coming ogryn is home cook enemy or is he based on the lore table top or books 
languid meadow
shadow plover
Hey does the new marathon game have dual wielding double barrel shotguns
Sadly no but we're no Battleroids after all
languid meadow
The double barrel is a mini rail gun (literally)
rose thorn
Sadly no but we're no Battleroids after all
WHATS EVEN THE POINTTTT
surreal nest
Marathon's very fucking good. Best extraction shooter for sure at least
game doesnt run that well for me makes me sad
shadow plover
Oh, I was really surprised how well it ran
rose thorn
Bungie actually optimizes their games so I have no doubt it will get better
surreal nest
I'm usually hovering 72-80 on medium but I can hit like a icky choppy 45-55 in certain areas
rose thorn
That’s really good lmao
surreal nest
goes to show how fucked D2s code was a
two wildly different things but not untrue i guess
surreal nest
That’s really good lmao
spoken like somebody who plays puzzle games on a 55 hz monitor
languid meadow
two wildly different things but not untrue i guess
Optimization also includes..... disk size
rose thorn
It is true
surreal nest
Optimization also includes..... disk size
do you think that maybe a massive live service mmo after 8 years could have a bloated rapidly increasing disk size in comparison to the brand new extraction shooter
surreal nest
yeah but now ur actually comparing mmos and not an extraction shooter
languid meadow
I'm gonna rip you in fucking half
surreal nest
languid meadow
I'm saying it's to show that bungie isn't bad at optimization like people have been claiming for years
surreal nest
I'm saying it's to show that bungie isn't bad at optimization like people have b...
that is not at all what i got from ur message but i agree
languid meadow
considering marathon launches at 18gigs when other games in the same genre are massive or mid sized
ARC is 42 gigs
Tarkov is fucking 100
surreal nest
im ngl marathon is also hard to look at in my honest to god opinion
game is so peculiar design wise but its like in a cool way
shadow plover
I love everything about it how it looks
languid meadow
I was iffy on it at first but yeah I like what they did with it
scenic bolt
I think the design works well for being readable, silhouttes and movement stick out against the color in the same fashion as say overwatch
languid meadow
the controversy was unfortunate but at least it turned out okay
them dropping the cellshade of earlier versions did wonders
shadow plover
I kinda wish they kept it
languid meadow
ehhh it could work but I much prefer what we have now
surreal nest
I think the design works well for being readable, silhouttes and movement stick ...
i dont mean its like fundamentally bad it just reminds me of notebook doodles you'd find in an abandoned asylum
the characters are profoundly uninteresting and hideous design wise tho imo which is a bummer
languid meadow
the contrast of the smooth odd 3D printed buildings with the grime and trash is so cool
I can't wait to see the Marathon
the only design I don't like
is uh
assassin
idk
surreal nest
he looks like he has a rare blood disease
languid meadow
I'm really excited for the new shell however
UESC goon
can't wait
you can find this shell in dire marsh in a display and its helmet as an item
his silhouette is also used for the "new shell" teaser in the roadmap
languid meadow
Prob get an area like that
shadow plover
hopefully
languid meadow
I killed someone in deep water at marsh
the blood affects in the game are so good
shadow plover
so glad they pivoted from the disappearing corpses in the early tests
surreal nest
running into a blood soaked room with like 8 bags is terrifying
scenic bolt
had that happen trying to do my traxus unlock contract, the terminal we hit mustve had 3 teams wipe at it
languid meadow
yeah overflow is a massacre on teams
solo it's pretty chill
me and my friend got two team wipes as a duo before finally dying because the entire lobby was going buck wild while UESC kept spawning
hell
storm jungle
Which model is that <:staregryn:1022085083844325376> <:loregryn:1036580674741731...
Khornate Ogryn Renegade with Hounds of Xaphan
languid meadow
Mouthful of a model name
storm jungle
The launch-game Hound designs are also based on the dogs here
storm jungle
^
foggy kraken
> Khornate Ogryn Renegade with Hounds of Xaphan
foggy kraken
storm jungle
the pouches, the mask, the hookhand, shockrod, etc
foggy kraken
Epiccc, so they are khorne ogryn but fat shark just re paint them and add nurgle stink?
storm jungle
Yeah
languid meadow
It's so fucking funny but also sad
since they do REALLY well for the enemies following the tabletop
storm jungle
I mean the only khorne thing about this guy is the rune on his helmet lol
storm jungle
so its not really a huge deal
foggy kraken
then most cosmetics....
we don't talk about cosmetics here
languid meadow
some are really good I will say that
languid meadow
Whinge in <#1153279327513886770>
storm jungle
https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-meme-buzz-year-copy-meme-gif-4668439001950...
🫵
languid meadow
I hate daylight savings
scenic bolt
thats like so many games
languid meadow
I miss the VT2 shop but when I brought that up years ago I got shit on for "wanting to make the game more like VT"
foggy kraken
some are really good I will say that
The saltzpyre skin bundle is epic tho
foggy kraken
I have all four of that bundle when it came out
storm jungle
Exhibit 1
rose thorn
scenic bolt
I remember when people complained about that like 500 dollar league skin and it made like 80 million dollars
foggy kraken
Now edit it with a tech priest
rose thorn
I remember when people complained about that like 500 dollar league skin and it ...
To be fair it was for charity
storm jungle
I remember when people complained about that like 500 dollar league skin and it ...
Basically lol
People love putting up integrity before going behind and just buying the thing
languid meadow
apparently that skin didn't sell to well in NA and EU
Korea however....
they LOVE that shit
rose thorn
scenic bolt
mcu adds luna snow to appeal to the korean market
rose thorn
Korea and China will spend thousands on skins and stuff
Wha else are they supposed to spend their Disney dollars on
storm jungle
Uhhh
rose thorn
LMAO
rose thorn
500 for a skin 20,000 for food
rose thorn
I am mostly slandering China here
scenic bolt
20000000000 skins to Luna Snow
the kiriko of rivals
storm jungle
Literally lmao
Kiriko i dont mind because shes an OC
Luna is a footnote slop character that is just puppeted around because Chinese devs love that money
rose thorn
It’s fucking crazy that OW only refuses to nerf kiriko and no one else
hollow lantern
Luna is a footnote slop character that is just puppeted around because Chinese d...
She was created for another game iirc
storm jungle
She was created for another game iirc
Yep
i love people who insist she isnt an industry planet
same with Jeff the Landtard
lol
rose thorn
Is frost the Nazi chud bait or the racist chud bait
hollow lantern
She's k pop idol bait
rose thorn
Racist chud bait got you
scenic bolt
from leaks jeff is gonna be the new baby groot
storm jungle
^
hollow lantern
same with Jeff the Landtard
At least he originally debuted in a comic tbh
languid meadow
ngl Jeffs origins are super funny he's a fucking gwenpool character who just exists
rose thorn
from leaks jeff is gonna be the new baby groot
Trans reference
languid meadow
he wasn't even that popular until rivals
storm jungle
She's k pop idol bait
Thats the biggest thing i hate btw with kpop characters
same reason I hate Demon Hunters
hollow lantern
Never seen it
storm jungle
they stand for an industry that is literally just korean hollywood
aka abuse, contractual slavery, etc
its insane
rocky gale
But worse
rose thorn
I’m an adult I’m not watching a kids movie with gooner bait YouTube ads
languid meadow
really good animation but yeah it glorifies the idol industry
storm jungle
Exactly yeah
languid meadow
which uses practices literally banned in war
hollow lantern
I’m an adult I’m not watching a kids movie with gooner bait YouTube ads
Yeah lol, this.
rocky gale
Somehow it's worse
storm jungle
Its unhinged, cyberpunk tier shit id say but Korea itself is just Night City
scenic bolt
jennie from blackpink is a israel stan, loona was formed by an arms company
hollow lantern
which uses practices literally banned in war
Like?
storm jungle
Lmao tell him
hollow lantern
I'm like
rose thorn
If I watch a kids movie at least 2 of the animators need to be put on suicide watcg
hollow lantern
Totally unfamiliar with it past "yeah they treat people like shit"
Yk what's a fuckin great kids movie?
rose thorn
WESTERN W
languid meadow
Like?
refusal to feed idols to keep them slim
depriving them of sleep in some cases
beatings
although a lot of this has been toned down now some of it still happens
rose thorn
I can’t wait for Gen Z to learn about Western movies
hollow lantern
>refusal to feed idols to keep them slim
>depriving them of sleep in some cases ...
Yeah alright, I've heard of a few of those.
storm jungle
The contracts they sign are also literally called Slave Contracts
scenic bolt
western attention to kpop has kinda made them pump the brakes on this stuff
storm jungle
now imagine the shit we dont hear
rose thorn
“This western move gives me a lot of rango vibes”
languid meadow
the biggest joke around Kpop demon hunters is "it's unrealistic, not because of the demons but because they band is allowed to eat"
storm jungle
LMAO
hollow lantern
now imagine the shit we *dont* hear
Kpop Diddy Parties
storm jungle
100%
languid meadow
also a lot of idols are signed on young
hollow lantern
Before they understand a contract
languid meadow
basically yeah
hollow lantern
Presumably without legal representation present
queen laurel
the biggest joke around Kpop demon hunters is "it's unrealistic, not because of ...
another one is this is unrealistic because a public relationship and shipping like that would send people into a war mongering frenzy
languid meadow
that's why you see articles like "Kpop idol doing their mandatory service"
because they sign on before that age and it gets delayed for a bit
storm jungle
Yeah shit like this is why I hate media that glamorizes Kpop
and why i spit on characters like Luna or Kpop demon hunters etc
rose thorn
Yeah shit like this is why I hate media that glamorizes Kpop
Do… people actually listen to k pop?
rocky gale
Kpop industry had like academies for potential Idols, each one will be filled with like hundreds of 10-14 year olds who are drilled ruthlessly every day and urged to compete with eachother for the top, they're kept on incredibly strict diets and weighted regularly, they're asscesed on their attractiveness and given guides on which surgeons they need to go to to get cosmetic surgeries, to the point where a lot are basically being booked in for surgery on the very day they become legally old enough to receive said surgery.
storm jungle
Do… people actually listen to k pop?
Yes lol
hollow lantern
This fuck ass bastard
rose thorn
It’s mostly the survivor tbf
hollow lantern
I think he's genuinely just super unfun to play against
Counterplay of "is there a wall nearby" lol
scenic bolt
kpop training is like ballerina farms from 200-100 years ago, sex trafficking and all
rose thorn
I think he's genuinely just super unfun to play against
Don’t worry they reworked him
And now he’s even more unbearable
hollow lantern
I only know what Scott tells me tbh
I don't play dbd anymore cause it's so miserable on both sides
rose thorn
I don't play dbd anymore cause it's so miserable on both sides
Exactly
scenic bolt
only clips I see of dbd is people raging at each other
hollow lantern
Accurate.
queen laurel
I don't play dbd anymore cause it's so miserable on both sides
It's literally the most accurate explanation i can see for it is who can develop the most worst form of cancer
the survivors or the killers
rose thorn
only clips I see of dbd is people raging at each other
Truth nuke
limpid granite
In dead by daylight the killer is punished for killing people
rocky gale
Unironically one of the best representations of the Idol industry in Backstreet Girls Gokudols
limpid granite
Kpop is such a horrid industry
A single allegation of a boyfriend can ruin your career
Or the fact that the male kpop members get infantalized
rocky gale
Three Yakuza guys mess up a job and their boss gives them the choice of death or being turned into Idols. The show then exposes a ton of the shit the Idols go through and the fact that like even hardened Yakuza dudes are shocked and horrified by it.
outer wave
A single allegation of a boyfriend can ruin your career
Similar with Vtuber industry as well; if you're under a big brand like Hololive and you mention you got a partner it becomes a huge scandel
Its genuinely awful
hollow lantern
We love parasocial relationships
rocky gale
Oh yea it's got super intense purity culture, the idols have to appear to be single virgins until they retire otherwise it's a scandal.
hollow lantern
Tbh I assumed it was to market the idea that you could date them which then entices people to spend more money
rocky gale
It basically is, but it's like the same way debutantes used to be treated on things like the marriage mart, they had to appear to be single and "untouched"
Except they're not attracting marriage offers, they're attracting fans who fantasise about giving them marriage offers
hollow lantern
Yes
outer wave
Imagine the amount of love letters that those idols get from strangers that they dont know
hollow lantern
Imagine the amount of love letters that those idols get from strangers that they...
limpid granite
Imagine the amount of love letters that those idols get from strangers that they...
Lole
Those letters go to the agency
rocky gale
That's probably nothing compared to the fan meetings they have to do, where fans pay to shake their hands and speak to them
outer wave
Least most fans will be respectful, but you'll always have those freaks that try something
rocky gale
Yea there's actually quite a divide between the fans of like those that want to marry the Idols and those that view them as daughters and would kill anyone who touched them
hollow lantern
You a kpop person Lar?
rocky gale
Not really
hollow lantern
You just seem to know about it.
spring cairn
You just seem to know about it.
rocky gale
My mind is a vast reserve
hollow lantern
I don't use twitter tbh
rocky gale
Plus if you watch any sort of modern travel show in Japan or Korea they will inevtiable have a segment dedicated to it
hollow lantern
Haven't for a really long time before it became X
rocky gale
I don't use twitter tbh
Me neither
spring cairn
i never had an account
languid meadow
I Love twitter
outer wave
I should use twitter less
languid meadow
all the cool artists are on there
hollow lantern
Plus if you watch any sort of modern travel show in Japan or Korea they will ine...
Only travel shows I loved were the Anthony Bourdain stuff and Idiot Abroad tbh
spring cairn
somtime i just browse with no account
outer wave
all the cool artists are on there
True!
spring cairn
ik where to look
let's leave it at that
that sounded weird but it isn't
mb
gng
languid meadow
GOON
hollow lantern
Idiot Abroad was so fuckin good while it aired tbh
rocky gale
James May, Joanna Lumley, Michael Palin and Sue Perkins are some of the Travel hosts I would watch regularly
hollow lantern
I forgot they gave James May a travel show tbh
I watched his Italy episode a few years ago
limpid granite
let's leave it at that
rocky gale
Sue did a whole episode exploring Jpop and met with a crowd of the Dad Idol fans and was surprised how they didn't lust after the girls (They still had weird protective attachments to them but atleast it wasn't predatory)
hollow lantern
I'm ngl
hollow lantern
I don't even know my favorite band members names half of the time.
I don't understand obsessing over it.
rocky gale
Yea
hollow lantern
I only know the HEALTH dudes names cause I went to a karaoke afterparty with them once.
scenic bolt
cultural thing, cause there's published rankings of popularity and sales and associated status to being a fan in that competition
think sports
rocky gale
Oh yea Jpop and Kpop have that thing where like their super fans will buy hundreds of copies of the same album to show their support
scenic bolt
and the stuff taylor swift likes pulling of releasing 20 different copies of the same album is learned from kpop/jpop
hollow lantern
Whatever you want to spend your money on ig
scenic bolt
the weird stuff is the gacha stans
like people buying advertisement campaigns for their gacha character on the character's 'birthday'
rocky gale
Welcome to Weebchat hours Dilara
scenic bolt
it was some chinese gacha but a bunch of women raised almost 60 millions of dollars out of pocket to paint an entire regional airlines fleet livery with their gacha husbando for a month straight
outer wave
like people buying advertisement campaigns for their gacha character on the char...
You also got the occasional guy that will celebrate the birthday with a cardboard cutout and cake, though thats more as a general super anime waifu fan rather than gacha
limpid granite
it was some chinese gacha but a bunch of women raised almost 60 millions of doll...
I know exactly which gacha your talking about
hollow lantern
like people buying advertisement campaigns for their gacha character on the char...
Yeah bro I love giving corporations money for nothing
limpid granite
Love and deepspace
solid horizon
Yeah bro I love giving corporations money for nothing
hollow lantern
Whoever suckered these suckers into this first is a genius
scenic bolt
valve
hollow lantern
I don't think valve ever had anyone giving them money to advertise Gordon
limpid granite
Women go genuinely feral for love and deepspace
storm jungle
Valve are the smoothest form of scumbags
build up astronomically good reputation then get away with the scummiest tactics imaginable
lol
hollow lantern
Helps that they make genuinely good games tbh
queen laurel
build up astronomically good reputation then get away with the scummiest tactics...
yeah and it's controlled scumminess too
they don't blow it out of proportion keep the status quo
scenic bolt
valves a weird state where they can be both pro and anti consumer at the same time but not in any excess fashion
rocky gale
The finest provider of bread and circus
hollow lantern
Amazing what a little restraint lets you get away with
crystal forum
build up astronomically good reputation then get away with the scummiest tactics...
the entire industry is so fucking bad that gamers fawn over valve because they might actually be the least bad large gaming company
honestly imo the sole reason valve isn't as bad as the others is because it remains a private company that isn't gutting itself for the whims of certain shareholders
outer wave
Part of me kind of cannot wait for an inevitable crash in the gamer market
Not that it'll stop people like in those scummy companies from making money elsewhere but maybe they won't see games as profitable anymore
scenic bolt
that reckoning is happening
crystal forum
gaming companies are already destroying themselves to keep shareholders happy it's not a good state rn
they will go down to the ground as long as number go up
scenic bolt
but mostly centered around the mobile market which most large game devs are involved with anyway
think it was last year was the first year mobile market saw reduction in growth ever
that panicked a lot of the industry
since mobile was always seen as the safe bet
outer wave
they will go down to the ground as long as number go up
Problem is that those guys are expecting infinite growth from doing this, but thats obviously not sustainable
crystal forum
they don't expect infinite growth
they expect to make as much money as they can
they dont give a shit about long term sustainability
rocky gale
They literally think gamers are braindead cows who will fork over their entire life saving for whatever flashing lights they sell.
outer wave
think it was last year was the first year mobile market saw reduction in growth ...
I dont blame the players; there's too many mobile games that are either predatory cash ins, scams, ad ridden, or simply just look phoned in
crystal forum
They literally think gamers are braindead cows who will fork over their entire l...
well they aren't completely wrong
rocky gale
Yea but there's still limits
outer wave
Many have grown up with that mindset
rocky gale
As we saw with like quite a few recent games
crystal forum
the realities of the economy however mean people won't be able to buy the newest 100$ fifa game every year
scenic bolt
(gaming companies real competition is online betting like sports betting, or 'prediction markets')
outer wave
the realities of the economy however mean people won't be able to buy the newest...
Thank god
rocky gale
Do I gotta bring up Veilguard
crystal forum
i swear i almost had a heart attack when i saw the newest resident evil is 90$ in my currency
rocky gale
crystal forum
it jumped to fucking 90
crystal forum
i have never played a resident evil game less than 2 years after its release and it will remain that way i guess
except 2 remake
rocky gale
I bought a brand new PC just to play Veilguard, played it for like 20 minutes ad went "What the hell is this shit" and refunded the game.
outer wave
I bought a brand new PC just to play Veilguard, played it for like 20 minutes ad...
Bruhhh
That's rough
Least the PC is good though?