40k-lore-chat

[outer wave]

Yeah probably

[young pecan]

DOGE moment

[outer wave]

I mean its just AI or some guys from Israel now

Another thing I just kinda realized: it has the energy of a corny Valentines card, which is to say its really cringe and would be kinda silly save for the fact that these are probably legit threats on the people emailed

[celest dome]

If I had such an email, I'd just bin it cause it look like a scam

[outer wave]

Same

[arctic talon]

It’s sent primarily to people who are registered Republicans or voted for him lol

[outer wave]

Oh so he's gonna kill his own fanbase I see

Not that it'll matter, assuming things go his way

[arctic talon]

Funnily enough. If you live in a deep blue state it’s arguably better to be a registered Republican

Because you can vote for the least awful Republican candidate for state level stuff

[winter pine]

he already did it before with COVID, why not again?

[outer wave]

True!

[opaque coyote]

This looks like a fucking spam email

I would unironically ignore it because I would think it's just

"I AM A NIGERIAN PRINCE"

...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8rk33dpvmo

THIS IS THE SECOND FUCKING TIME IN ONE YEAR

[dark moon]

How many more years of this circus do we have left? I can’t remember anymore.

[winged silo]

Sigvald the Magnificent from Warhammer Fantasy, or Fulgrim from Warhammer 40,000, who is worse?

[winged silo]

Just overall. As a person. Who is worse?

[dark moon]

On your definition / judging criteria

[opaque coyote]

It depends

Which era

Pre fall, post fall

[winged silo]

Post fall

Post fall Fulgrim vs. Sigvald the Magnificent, who is worse as a person

[winter pine]

Fulgrim doesn't seem like he's done a whole lot in post-ascension / Heresy

He shanked Guilliman and then ???

[opaque coyote]

I don't know much about WoF + AoS.

But I know that Fulgrim didn't really do much post fall all things considered.

He killed Ferris, his troops turned people into drugs, he appeared to get virus bombed, and he shanked Gulliman. He's generally just been partying/depression napping on his planet.

[winged silo]

Fair enough

[winter pine]

⁨From his court, Sigvald amassed vast treasures that would catch his eye, gathering them in his palace and then letting them rot as his attention wandered elsewhere.[4b] He also set out to capture beautiful maidens to take as his wives, burning down cities in their pursuit, only to lose interest once he had taken the object of his desire into his palace.[4c] If they began to show signs of age, he removed their skin and encased them in porcelain to preserve their beauty forever.[4i] All the while, he neglected his forces, with only a thousand warriors remaining in his service.[4e]⁩

already thinking he's worse than Fulgrim lmao

[late verge]

Is there lore talking about how holy terra even still has a population of humans on the surface of the planet? Dark age of technology bullshit maybe? I know the emperor (for all his myriad evils) did actually love the earth and tried to restore it to how it was when he was born, but since his death the planet has been devoured by industry and all the water has been siphoned off world, so like

How is anyone even still alive

[opaque coyote]

Honestly this sounds like what Fulgrim should be

[late verge]

Wouldnt that cause venusian type conditions planetside

[opaque coyote]

He's the Daemon Prince of Slaanesh. He should do more of this type of degen shit

[rocky gale]

Flaying people and encasing them in Porcelain is peak tbf

[late verge]

I know the actual answer is "its just sci fi and having terra as the capital of the imperium is narratively significant" but this feels like something they wouldve come up with a handwavy explanation for

[winter pine]

⁨The final trial was for Sigvald to present his naked soul to Slaanesh, by stepping into the Realm of Chaos itself through the Lucid Gate.[4m] Against the warnings of Oddrún, Sigvald attempted the ritual to open the gate, which ended with his body being consumed by flames.[4n] In the Realm of Chaos, Sigvald's soul relived the events that had led him to embrace Slaanesh and was then confronted by the Chaos God himself, who appeared in the most beautiful form Sigvald could fathom -- his own.[4o]⁩

[opaque coyote]

The same reason Catachan somehow got a human population.

Built different mostly.

Although, to be specific, there were still technologies remaining that could help support the remaining people. I doubt the infrastructure could've lasted long enough for whatever the population was pre-Strife.

Most likely, a mixture of technology... and a sudden decrease of those that it needed to support

[winter pine]

Now THIS is a proper slaaneshi champion

[rocky gale]

While I do think Sigvald is kind of a jobber, this part is cool

[opaque coyote]

Apparently it also wasn't bad until late into the age of strife

I believe that's when warp travel became impossible basically

[late verge]

Since in 40k humans do breed like rabbits (which tbh is not the most realistic thing, but thats not relevant right now) it wouldnt surprise me if literally just 80% of people die before they turn 25 but they repopulate so fast that they can just "take it"

Plus maybe humans have just kind of evolved incrementally to sightly better survive conditions on terra

[opaque coyote]

Apparently pre unification it still had areas of life

It's just that siege of Terra + 10,000 years later. It became a fully lifeless planet

[opaque coyote]

Likely it's just that the population was generally much lower after a bit of time

Every one person that dies, another 20 can live slightly longer

[late verge]

Tbh this is part of why I really dont like the lore that tries to make the daot humans "evil", like i was under the impression the whole point of 40k was that humans were CAPABLE of being better but specifically rejected reason cooperation and compassion when the age of strife ended

[opaque coyote]

I believe that DAoT humanity had evil. But it wasn't as evil as the Imperium

[late verge]

Like, if humans are always evil and monsterous by 40k's reading, then the imperium's cruelty is about as impactful as like. Watching ants eat each other

[winter pine]

I find it hard to think the dark age humans weren't evil if they invented something like the Butcher's Nails in enough number for Nuceria to have a stockpile

[torpid wharf]

Holy Terra is also a massive site of pilgrimages. There's a constant influx of people and supplies

[late verge]

I always interpreted it as there were individually bad people and Occasionnel strife but that "good" tended to win

Like star trek

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think it's something that was considered benign.

Like "yeah this weird galaxy shoves nails into people. There's a travel advisory."

[late verge]

This is fair but its totally possible it couldve been an age of strife retrofitting for war if that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

It's like how shouting that you're Gay in Iran would probably get you executed

Just don't go there

[winter pine]

Some of the DAoT weaponry the Dark Angels have stashed away too

[opaque coyote]

We don't know the politics of the DAoT in general.

[late verge]

Maybe they were just hormone regulators that aos warlords used to make angry berserkers

[opaque coyote]

Sure they had massively cruel and damaging WMD.

...but we also have that. On a lesser scale obviously but still.

[winter pine]

Phospex being considered bad shit even by the standards of the Great Crusade era Imperium, uh what else

[opaque coyote]

It's likely that humanity wasn't a fully unified empire even in the DAoT times

[late verge]

Its just like

[opaque coyote]

I can imagine DAoT having several empires. Each with their own different moralities and "Don't use this weapon"

[late verge]

What is worse; to be capable of good and choosing evil, or to be destined to be evil forever

[opaque coyote]

Sure the Butchers Nails exist. But it's likely that it was the invention of a cruel bastard.

Since logically

Why would you use them?

DAoT humanity used something similar to Terminator Armor as reactor workplace protection

Coordinating troops would generally be considered harder with them

On a pragmatic standpoint they're useless. It's why people generally didn't like the World Eaters. Not only due to their cruelty. But because you can't exactly tell them to

"Stop attacking, we need the factories"

[torpid wharf]

There's a fair amount of technologies from that period whose original purposes are most likely misunderstood by modern inhabitants of the setting

[late verge]

And theres the fan theory/headcanon that leman russes are jury rigged tractors

[opaque coyote]

When you have weapons that can literally shoot out black holes. I doubt nailing people's heads in to become angry all the time would be useful.

At most, it would be like how Nuceria used them, for entertainment

[torpid wharf]

Imperial Knights were also used for logging and construction, I think. I'll have to go look that up; it could be incorrect nonsense I'm repeating

[opaque coyote]

And likely considering how Nuceria is the only notable planet that uses them

It's likely they weren't too wide spread

Maybe used by a cruel empire state that wanted to make an example out of criminals

But this is all speculation.

[late verge]

I think so but alao i think they were for protection against dangerous fsuna

[opaque coyote]

Because the DAoT is well... Truly a dark age.

We know jackshit about it

[opaque coyote]

I generally think bolters were that as well

Also considering that the Votann use em

Like

I can imagine Lasguns are used for hunting and general use

[late verge]

It would make sense for this though because yk, they use chainsaws

[opaque coyote]

While Bolters are the

"I don't want to hunt. I want to kill that fucking thing."

[late verge]

Its ironically understated how incredibly overkill bolters are for anti personnel work ngl

Its like shooting a javelin missile at a coughing baby

[opaque coyote]

Basically

I imagine Lasguns were the equivalent of a rifle or pistol for self defense.

[arctic talon]

Bolters are very obviously an anti ork gun

lol

[torpid wharf]

Overkill might have been necessary considering how dangerous the galaxy is, especially prior to the Great Crusade, and even in present-day

[opaque coyote]

Something a civilian carries around

[late verge]

If its necessary its not overkill

Killing large alien fauna instantly is a totally valid use of bolters

[opaque coyote]

Bolters were likely used against things that are dangerous to your colony.

Like Elite wolf said, anti-ork. And the DAoT humans would've likely had them as problems as well.

Especially tough Fauna like those in Catachan would also require bolter fire

[torpid wharf]

Oh, definitely agreed. (Man, I cannot wait for when I can properly react to posts, haha)

[late verge]

I like the reading that the imperium's weaponry is mostly jury rigging daot tools for war because it shows thst the imperium isnt necessary

[opaque coyote]

Since there is a variety of planets in the 40k verse.

Who all conveniently have only one single biome. Cough

[arctic talon]

Phosphex is def a weapon of war lol that shit is designed to kill people horrifically

[late verge]

Thats just standard sci fi poor worldbuilding

[arctic talon]

That’s ironically less prevalent in 40k

[torpid wharf]

the imperium isn't necessary

But the Forges of Mars are eternal

[arctic talon]

There’s very few mono biome planets

[late verge]

Which i dont blame 40k for thats many many sci fis

[arctic talon]

If you bring up Tallaran it was literally nuked to shit

Repeatedly

And it still has biomes

Lol

[opaque coyote]

Ttue

[late verge]

Arrakis is the biggest example (even if it has a valid 'excuse')

[arctic talon]

Munda had planetary biomes

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it makes sense primarily because you don't really want to detail a random planet's biome that you're gonna spend like two minutes in

[arctic talon]

Before it had an extinction level event and humanity colonized it

[torpid wharf]

The planets with singular biomes in 40K also tend to be the result of deliberate terraforming -- Aeldari Crone Worlds or Imperial Agriworlds, for example -- or due to massive destruction of their native ecosystems.

[opaque coyote]

So might as well just make it one

It's lazy but that's why it's prevalent

[arctic talon]

Necromunda used to be mostly ocean funnily enough

[late verge]

Idk maybe im naive but ive always thought its more grimdark to imaginr that the daot was pretty chill but humanity collectively said "yk what? Lets be douchebags now"

[torpid wharf]

But yeah, there's also the narrative ease of being able to say, "I'm from a frozen ball of a shrine world" haha

[arctic talon]

Tbh if a planet is far from a sun

It being a frozen shithole makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Agri planets are literally just

"So y'know how Terra has Nebraska. How it's mostly corn?"

"Yeah"

"...okay make the planet Nebraska"

"got it"

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/ogata-hyakunosuke-usami-golden-kamuy-ogata-tokishige-usami-gif-1523207651114223634

Summoned

[arctic talon]

What a pretty agri world

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1410448394345910292/IM_Labourer1.png?ex=697f60ae&is=697e0f2e&hm=af65f698c37a878f4090c0be74970b3fae2114fdb0f5e5a1520d907229bafb75&

[late verge]

I love agri worlds theyre so dumb

Literally just fucking corn everywhere, no high technology, no horizontal farming or aeroponics

[torpid wharf]

Well, that depends

[late verge]

Literally just servitors doing what medieval peasants did

[arctic talon]

Some are higher tech

And some have horizontal farming

They’re still shit though lol

[torpid wharf]

"Spectoris, called the "Complete Ocean," is an ocean-covered Agri-world in the Calixis Sector of the Segmentum Obscurus that is the subject of many legends. Some say there are sapient xenos forms of vast size inhabiting the unexplored watery depths of the world. Others claim that the world-ocean itself is sentient." - Dark Heresy Core Rulebook

[late verge]

Have space whales ever eaten agri worlds

[late verge]

Thats so cool

I love it when smart xenos hide amongst ignorant humans

[arctic talon]

There’s the original inhabitants of munda still

In Munda

They’re deep underground in old remnants of the ocean lol

[winter pine]

Necromunda is such a cool setting

[late verge]

Necromunda is so cool

[torpid wharf]

Apparently I can't post the agri-world description mentioned by Laati. Oh well

[late verge]

So underrated

Necromunda is why I always thought the backlash against hive scummies was dumby

[winter pine]

Is it Necromunda that has the expired and formented corpse starch as a drug people use to get high?

[torpid wharf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/128qr2s/excerpt_the_lords_of_silence_agriworlds_are_not/

[arctic talon]

Wait wrong video

Whatever

[late verge]

"Oh its just a crackhead with a gun"

Yesh and space marines are just dudes with extra organs

[arctic talon]

Meth heads with guns are scary

Have you seen Escher

Steroid heads with guns are also scary

Have you seen Goliath

[late verge]

Space marines LITERALLY recruit from hive gangers

[raven stone]

Akshually GW updated lore. Most Agri Worlds are factory farming hellscapes.

Unless Feudal World Agri World.

[late verge]

They are HARDCORE to the 40k extreme

[late verge]

Oh okay cool

[torpid wharf]

Named my Hive Scum after an Escher matron, haha, so yes

[winter pine]

https://youtu.be/Zcywd8QPoVo

[vagrant fox]

hey I've heard Peter Pringle sing this

[winged silo]

Indeed.

We need more necromunda content.

[wary fulcrum]

Read Bookkeepers Skull

They can’t afford servitors 😂😂

[wary fulcrum]

No

They do have a special fungus called ‘Ghast’ that grows from corpses that gives you temporary psychic powers though

[winged silo]

What happens if I give a Psyker Ghast?

Does it temporarily make them normal?

[arctic talon]

It would likely make them more psychic

[winged silo]

Ahh, okay.

[arctic talon]

Either that or they’d have an unfortunate reaction to it lol

[winged silo]

Turn it into something like Psycho from Fallout, liquify it and stuff it in a giant comical syringe and give it to a Psyker.

[arctic talon]

Literally done already

lol

[winged silo]

Is that an official Necromunda model or is that a genestealer?

[arctic talon]

That’s an official necromunda model for a Delaque Psyker yeah

[winged silo]

Good, I know where not to go.

[arctic talon]

He’s high off his mind

[winged silo]

He looks like he's in agony.

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kill-you-gif-5063683583336604795

[arctic talon]

He is, he’s also incredibly high and getting regularly dosed with Ghast

Delaque are a bunch of fish worshiping weirdos

[vagrant fox]

That's just what 40k dolphins will do to ya

[winged silo]

What is the deal with the Delaques?

Please tell me.

[arctic talon]

They’re a necromunda clan house that specializes in the trade of knowledge/secrets and clandestine assasinations.

The gangers are all very low ranking members of this clan house. They also have a weird sorta hivemind due to making psychic communication with the native inhabitants of necromunda deep below the surface in the underwater oceans

These dolphin whale squid creatures have some level of influence over Delaque and they’re allied to each other

[winged silo]

Oh dear.

[arctic talon]

Delaque’s hivemind isn’t a true hivemind

But they can communicate across the planet with some effort

Without vox

They gotta go through the whales

[winged silo]

I will avoid Necromunda at all costs.

I'm sticking to my Forge Worlds.

[arctic talon]

They refer to them as “the silent ones”

And “the silent ones” slumber deep beneath the surface of munda

Some other people know about them

But they just think they’re delaques very very upper echelon

And not giant psychic space whale squid dolphin creatures

[storm jungle]

I really love the take of like

"Yeah they just worship ancient cthulu aliens"

no chaos or gsc involved

for once a fucking original take

lol

[arctic talon]

Also I messed up

There’s 2 layers of psychic Cthulhu aliens

There’s the ones they worship and the ones that help with the hivemind

[heady rivet]

And are comically loyal to the Imperium and House Helmawr

[arctic talon]

💀

Delaque are made of contradictions

[heady rivet]

God I love Necromunda so much its unreal

[storm jungle]

Yeah which is what makes them even more interesting imo

beacuse now you know literally everything they do is completely for their own ends

and it isnt like "nah they are very loyal bro trust me"

lol

[heady rivet]

They also got out-spied by the Ash Waste Nomads of all people

Technically

[storm jungle]

tbh Nomads themselves are all sorts of spooky

[heady rivet]

Delaque tried to scout out the Ash Waste Nomads and the one (1) surviving Agent got dropped off a town in a sack stuffed with the eyepieces of all the other agents

[storm jungle]

I love how the Delaque book presents itself as like "OOOOoOO NOBODY knows what the delaque are about! They might just be worshipping secret alien gods!"

Literally every mini-release and lore they get points to this being true

While the Ash Nomads codex does a way better job actually revealing a lot but also nothing about the Nomads as the lore in the rulebook is built over the contradicting account of like 3 people

[heady rivet]

The Nomads rulebook is genuinely one of my favorite bits of writing in the whole setting because its pretty much a real textbook where a scholar is trying to sift through EVERYTHING. Calling out some stories as total BS, being generally confused at how they have so little info, dealing with every other road crew having a story that contradicts each other. Peak

[storm jungle]

YEP its why i really like it

its like the only 40k material ive ever read which is actively purposefully mysterious and confusing as well as misleading which is great

[late verge]

NOOO

[storm jungle]

a lot of lore claims to be like this but is literally nothing like it lol

[heady rivet]

Its exactly like some real textbooks I've read before where the opening is just some scholar going "Alright. Whats going on?" with slight contempt for his or her chosen field of research

[arctic talon]

Nomads rulebook is so fun

I love it

[heady rivet]

The one story of the woman that breaks out of her cage and runs while they just watch and let her go is actually creepy

[storm jungle]

It was that + the one where they "allow" one of the outsiders to party with them that got me.

It does a good job of showing the supposed diversity of their culture to a degree yet also you knowing nothing about them

[heady rivet]

Assuming, of course, he isnt full of it. But given that even the Imperials have 0 clue how many to even estimate are out there, who knows. Maybe some just be chill like that

I like that he cant even get a clear answer on if you can drink bug milk

[arctic talon]

I do love that the Nomads aren't a monolithic culture or society

they're many tribes

[winter pine]

Shout out to 80s punk as dystopian sci-fi violent criminal, gotta be one of my favorite aesthetic choices

[heady rivet]

Shoutout to the Palanite enforcers looking better equipped than the Guard

[arctic talon]

Shame it’s just flak

lol

[winged silo]

Understood.

But if I'm gone, who will destroy more Necromundans?

[heady rivet]

Necromundans

[arctic talon]

I FORGOT THE AUTHOR MADE ASH WASTE NOMAD PORN

LOL

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[winged silo]

Do you think they know how to operate my patented "Necromundan Crushing Machine©®™," hmm?

[storm jungle]

they 100% took that inspo from IRL historians

[arctic talon]

Who needs body armor when you got drugs, checkmate guardsmen

[storm jungle]

people did this shit constantly

[heady rivet]

Thats their chief export and a cherished cultural institution

[arctic talon]

Vetris was a very lonely man/hj

[heady rivet]

The Targaryens canonically commissioned Dragon hentai for at least one son that wouldnt bang

[arctic talon]

So lonely all he had was his own parchment and quill

So he worked

Obviously for scientific reasons

[winged silo]

Very well then.

[arctic talon]

oh my god lol

[winged silo]

Does Necromunda have any good music?

[arctic talon]

Yeah just put on punk rock from the 90s and that’s munda

lol

[winged silo]

Does Necromunda have gabagool?

[winged silo]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-soprano-james-gandolfini-the-sopranos-drawing-painting-gif-14648608313489473242

[arctic talon]

Prolly

[winged silo]

What doesn't Necromunda have?

[arctic talon]

Playable xenos

And marines

[heady rivet]

Genestealers.

[arctic talon]

And the guard

[arctic talon]

Fuck I forgot

Lol

[heady rivet]

Vandoth.

[heady rivet]

The Deserter and House Greim.

[arctic talon]

Yeah also

[arctic talon]

I don’t count the deserter

[torpid wharf]

The genestealers of Necromunda are so amazing that not even a Hive Fleet wants something to do with them lol

[arctic talon]

He’s a deserter smh

[heady rivet]

WE GOT IT ALL BABY

[arctic talon]

That’s just the Malstrain weirdos

There’s normal genestealers as well lol

[winged silo]

Is Necromunda one of those places where the people living there say it sucks but if you insult it you'll get shanked and disposed of in a trash bag in the sewer?

[torpid wharf]

I'll admit I know very little of Necromunda

I'm glad they have proper ones at least

[heady rivet]

Necromundans talk trash on Necromunda and then you agree and they get insulted

[torpid wharf]

I'd only ever heard of the malstrain genestealers

[arctic talon]

Yes

[winged silo]

Alright then.

[arctic talon]

Necromunda kind of has everything

[heady rivet]

Its genuinely the best lore

[jade holly]

Is Necromunda one city?

[arctic talon]

Ffs it’s got several imperial fists on it as well

[arctic talon]

No

Hive Primus is the main city

[heady rivet]

NO

[arctic talon]

But there’s a bunch of other ones

[heady rivet]

Necromunda has thousands of hives, in various states

[jade holly]

So it’s a planet

[arctic talon]

Yes

[jade holly]

Ok ok

[winged silo]

As a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus, will I get decent coin going there to assist in cybernetic enhancement of the gangers?

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus keeps to the upper hive/overseeing manufacturing

They do not get involved with clan politics

Aside from hereteks and Mechanicus members who are uh

[winged silo]

But as a hypothetical.

[arctic talon]

On the less legal side

Yes

[storm jungle]

Yes

[arctic talon]

The gangers would love having a tech priest

lol

[storm jungle]

rogue mechanicus personnel exist

[heady rivet]

Cybernetics are stupid common on Munda, and stupid cheap

[storm jungle]

also illegal press-factories which they run to make guns

or bionics

[arctic talon]

Having a tech priest around is nice

Hereteks are in high demand

Because they’re like a tech priest

But ask less questions

lol

[winged silo]

I'm gonna pack my bags and go to Necromunda! Time to get my dubloons!

[torpid wharf]

I've heard! I've watched Arbitor Ian's videos on it, though the books are fairly low on my TBR list. I'm unfortunately not into the tabletop game, and I know that's where a lot of the lore and content are based, so it's harder to get into for me :c

But I've always liked what I've heard about!

[arctic talon]

just don't be too nosy

[heady rivet]

Fwiw, Van Saar are very knowledgeable on tech even without the religious dogma

[arctic talon]

as a tech priest

and you'll be fine

do not dig into Van Saar

you will die

[storm jungle]

Ian's vid BARELY covers the surface

theres like so many rulebooks from modern munda that tell lore

[arctic talon]

It is okay to ask where did you get the gun from

it is not okay to ask to be taken to it

lol

[winged silo]

Alright then.

[torpid wharf]

Oh, I know, haha

[storm jungle]

Necromunda is also THE most lore'd planet in the entire 40k setting.

It has so much information

[arctic talon]

that is how the enforcers find your mangled corpse hanging from some part of a manufactorum

[jade holly]

How good is the Imperial Agents army?

[arctic talon]

bad

lol

[storm jungle]

bad

[arctic talon]

Imperial Agents are non functional

[jade holly]

in desperate need of reworked?

[arctic talon]

Dilara even knows

and she doesn't play the game

[arctic talon]

Yes

[heady rivet]

I'd say that most of the rulebooks, especially the gang expansions, are like 50/50 lore/rules anyway

[jade holly]

Cause the idea of playing an army based on Grendyl’s warband sounds really fun

[winged silo]

Aside from Earth (real place)

[heady rivet]

(Buy a Munda gang)

[storm jungle]

yeah but earth is boring

[winged silo]

Fair

[spring cairn]

you'll never guess where u at rn

[jade holly]

I hear about Mars and Earth

[arctic talon]

but yeah this is a Heretek, they're the only mechanicus hanger on available on the tabletop

[jade holly]

What about the other planets in the solar system

[arctic talon]

But we know actual tech priests

engaging in illegal activity exist

[jade holly]

What happened to Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Pluto and Uranus?

[arctic talon]

the hereteks just the only one available on the tabletop for uh, reasons

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sol_System

All the info you'll get, there isnt much

[winged silo]

Would it be acceptable to pack this Heretek up and put him in a box directly into the system's sun?

[arctic talon]

Remmeber, he's a Heretek, not a chaos cultist

smh

Don't ask him to shove a daemon into a gun

he probably doesn't know what a Daemon is

[winged silo]

He's probably gonna mess with AI.

[torpid wharf]

Much to my chagrin. I'm this close to buying a rulebook because I need to understand how an iconic Puritan is suddenly a Radical.

[jade holly]

Damn

[arctic talon]

jokes aside the Necromunda heretek(the mini)

[jade holly]

They’re just boring

[arctic talon]

is implied to be a xenotech fucker

stygies colors

[winged silo]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-car-garn-47-laptop-funny-gif-4291198679301656190

[heady rivet]

Cold Trade my beloved

Even if its lowkey a shit alliance

[arctic talon]

the grafted on servitor backpack with a grav gun

[storm jungle]

Basically how all Puritans go Radical

[arctic talon]

is honestly my favorite part of the mini lol

[storm jungle]

"Ill use the enemy's tech but ONLY for good causes"

Eisenhorn is a total fucking idiot

[arctic talon]

which puritan went radical

[storm jungle]

lol

[arctic talon]

Coteaz?

he's still a puritan

[storm jungle]

"Coteaz"

[winged silo]

He should go weld necrodermis onto himself, it'd be funny.

[storm jungle]

mfer who the fuck do you think

[jade holly]

I want a comedy mini story of humans on a planet that was recently the host of an awakening tomb world and the Overlord just views humans as an addition to his subjects.

[arctic talon]

idfk

that dread chair dude

Karamasov

[storm jungle]

Karamazov*

burn this guy at the stake

[torpid wharf]

I knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, and I know the short story where they technically set it up, but I just need more content

[arctic talon]

yeah sure

I probably deserve it or something

[jade holly]

Is it bad to say radical Inqusitors are more interesting than puritan Inqusitors?

[arctic talon]

no

thats just opinion

[winged silo]

Not really, in most cases they actually are.

[torpid wharf]

Also, it's Greyfax lol

[arctic talon]

oh

[torpid wharf]

I'm one of those people

[winter pine]

never apologize for saying something that's true

[arctic talon]

do you guys think the back servitor can talk

or do you guys think it just screams

and shoots

[jade holly]

POV: they buffed Victor in DbD

[storm jungle]

Why do you think every good Inquisition story involves radicals lol

Puritans are boring af

they are like

good for dark comedy

and thats kind of it lol

[heady rivet]

Do you think he handles ass itches or the original arms

[winged silo]

He's like the AIs from Halo. He gives commentary.

[arctic talon]

The servitor does it when he has his claws on

[jade holly]

Speaking of things, I always thought about a scene in a theoretical Inqusitor focused show that involves the Inqusitor and a group heading to a dingy backwater club and massacring everyone for suspected heresy. The sound muted out by the music

[torpid wharf]

For me, she was interesting as a Puritan because she tended to rub against everything, so her transition to a Radical should have gotten a bit more than what happened in Eye of Night

(I can go into spoilers in the book chat, if that's appropriate)

[arctic talon]

I like to imagine the heretek throws bottles at the gang he’s working for

[storm jungle]

You can say spoilers here

most people dont care lol

[jade holly]

Smh but what if I think about reading a book that came out 16 years ago

[storm jungle]

then you are a loser

[torpid wharf]

I've been in communities that take spoilers (even of older content) pretty seriously, so I didn't want to be rude ^-^"

[jade holly]

Dilara boolee me again

[vagrant fox]

suspiciously german usage of emoji

[jade holly]

Mods

[heady rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/good-for-her-arrested-development-lucille-bluth-gif-27543686

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Yeah we dont give a shit dont worry lol

[vagrant fox]

Cawdor fella in Fire Made Flesh is a banging lad, it's really funny how he talks to crowds

[storm jungle]

getting upset over old af book spoilers is very dumb

[heady rivet]

Would you kiss a Cawdor girl even if she smelt a lot

[arctic talon]

I hate uncleanliness, Cawdor genuinely disgusts me lol

As a gang

[vagrant fox]

If she's the type to make me worse why not ig

[languid meadow]

Unwashed ass the gang

[heady rivet]

Really with the Necromunda gangs its your own personal tolerance for the amount and type of greasy

[languid meadow]

remember kids

Cancer is cool if it makes you ironman

[winged silo]

Do you think the Left 4 Dead horde theme plays constantly in Necromunda due to the sheer chaos?

[torpid wharf]

So, Eye of Night has a slight focus on Greyfax needing to adopt a more Radical mindset and working with Moriana and a long-dead Radical Inquisitor to find the titular artifact.

[heady rivet]

Nightsider. CONSTANTLY

[winged silo]

YES!

[arctic talon]

I prefer industrial soot and grease smh

[heady rivet]

Goliath.

Go sweat, boy

[torpid wharf]

While it's been a little bit since I last listened, I remember Greyfax wasn't happy about any of it. For me, it just comes across as a very sudden, dramatic change after exactly one instance. I'm sure it's implied she's done other Radical-leaning things elsewhere off-screen, but it's kind of frustrating since she was a pretty iconic Puritan.

The Lexicanum citation of the Codex: Imperial Agents (10th Edition) that confirms the change says...

Later, having learned of the many and varied threats to the Imperium, she adopted the Radical mindset. In the "new" galaxy, all means are good - as long as they serve the good of Humanity itself.

I'm very tempted to get a copy just so I can see lol

[arctic talon]

I play orlock lol

[heady rivet]

Surprising amount of overlap in the greases you get in industrial hellholes

[arctic talon]

lol

[vagrant fox]

machine grease is so annoying

[languid meadow]

smells good tho

or maybe im a freak

[wary fulcrum]

I’ve been doing nomads for my current campaign

Being getting real Nyarlothotep with it

[wary fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/malevolent-podcast-malevolent-podcast-king-in-yellow-hastur-gif-14975647338192249871

(The nyatlothotep ones were all an anime I didn’t recognise)

[rocky gale]

Nyaruko: Crawling with Love

It's about Nyarlothotep taking human form and falling in love with a guy on Earth

[vagrant fox]

w*men are eldritch

[wary fulcrum]

…

I mean it makes as much sense as any other

And I guess love is a kind of chaos

[crystal forum]

i have respect for my lesbian allies however i feel like lesbian art is made for totally different species sometimes

[crystal forum]

did fantasy go through ages like eras?

[rose thorn]

No this is age of sigmar

Oh

Sorry got confused

Didn’t recognize you jay

Yeah AoS go through ages

[vagrant fox]

Something great epochs

[rose thorn]

Age of myth,age of sigmar, age of the beast, etc etc

Age of death I think is the necroquakes

Age of chaos

[crystal forum]

was it like uh those tolkien ages

[rose thorn]

Idk I never read LOTR

[crystal forum]

or is it like those roman mythological ages

[rose thorn]

Each apocalypse is an age basically

[crystal forum]

where there were more myth creatures before

[rose thorn]

Age of myth was the pre apocalypse

Age of chaos was the chaos apocalypse

Age of sigmar is the hopium

Age of beast is the destruction apocalypse

[crystal forum]

were gods and shit around during the age of myth

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

oh wait that was the old ones right

[rose thorn]

No

AOS’ age of myth was sigmar, draco, then he went and found nagash, Arielle, teclis, gorkamorka, the frogs,

Uhhh

Who am I missing

Oh grungi

The fyreslayer gods

I forgot thier name

[nocturne crest]

Fallout spoiler, but could the sisters of battle have something like this?

[vagrant fox]

Grimnir did something or another

[rose thorn]

Then they settled cities like hallow heart and vindicarum before the age of chaos

That killed like

Everyone

[rocky gale]

You mean

[rose thorn]

The last 10% of people escaped to azyr

[crystal forum]

that's literally ripped straight from 40k models holy shit

[nocturne crest]

I forgot that existed, ngl.

[crystal forum]

aggressors and some HH terminators

[rose thorn]

Ong this is literally a fallout 4 mod lmao

[crystal forum]

rocket launcher on the back

[nocturne crest]

Is it?

[nocturne crest]

Huh. Is it weird I feel like missile backpacks should be something Orgyn or servitors also carry?

[arctic talon]

Some Servitors have them

[crystal forum]

i'm going to bitch just for one second about how dumb it is that the show took the coolest non power armour in the entire series and made it powered. it's like taking a fillet mignon and dunking it in caviar; you can't improve on perfection just by adding what's generally popular

[arctic talon]

Ogryn can have them

But they might not be able to like

Use it properly always

[storm jungle]

oh my god

SHUT UP

"wah wah wah my sex armor"

fucking stupid nerd

[crystal forum]

you shut up it's my only message about it

[storm jungle]

woke as hell

[nocturne crest]

Maybe they'll add it in the fallout new vegas remake.

[rose thorn]

They need to make the power armor obviously NCR because they know that the Redditor legion only knows shit from fallout nv

/j

[crystal forum]

dear lord i hope not

[nocturne crest]

They're remaking 3 based on stuff I've seen.

[crystal forum]

we dont have any solid proof yet afaik

[rose thorn]

That was a rumor made up by an obsidian employee

[crystal forum]

we literally have more proof of half life 3 being soon than a fallout remake

[arctic talon]

I doubt they’ll add it to NV lol

Doesn’t make sense timeline wise

[rose thorn]

There is some ex obsidian employee who keeps making up shit about Bethesda and the fallout series

And I have no clue why he does it

[arctic talon]

Fallout 3 and NV’s evidence for a remake is very little

Aside from the trailers being removed for fallout 3 and NV

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if GW will remake the original DoW games.

[rose thorn]

Isn’t it because the music licenses expired?

[crystal forum]

tbh i get the idea though. it makes no sense why bethesda keeps remaking elder scrolls but not fallout

[arctic talon]

Uhhh

Maybe

Idk

[rose thorn]

That’s what happened to 4’s

[arctic talon]

That might be why actually

[crystal forum]

imagine they remake fallout 1 in first person

would be more of a whole new game than a remake

[rose thorn]

Insane there is still copy rights out on fuckinh 50 year old songs

[crystal forum]

70 year old

[rose thorn]

[crystal forum]

didnt they sorta remake fallout 4 recently

[nocturne crest]

Blame Disney. They wanted to keep Mickey Mouse for longer.

[crystal forum]

but like all they did was a few cosmetic changes

[winter pine]

https://youtu.be/6e8WrmOibpM?t=110

[rose thorn]

They did a big update and basically added another dlc lmao

And they made the official paid mods not implemented like dog shit

[winter pine]

Pretty sure one of the big classic Fallout Russian modders is working on this

Fallout Senora and Nevada guy, I think?

[rose thorn]

What does Bethesda call their workshop?

[crystal forum]

ye i heard of this project

[rose thorn]

CREATION CLUB

[crystal forum]

just weird to me that they want people playing 4 even though the show is about NV and they just wont remaster it

[rose thorn]

Yeah it was a dlcification of the creation club, fixed bugs, better implementations

[crystal forum]

maybe there's some weird licensing issues with obsidian

or remaking NV is too much effort

[rose thorn]

It’s, the newest and most accessible fallout game-

It’s already there

And they added a tv show themed update to fallout 76

[winter pine]

Bethesda is probably just going to drop the Fallout 3 and NV remaster out of nowhere like they did the Oblivion one

[crystal forum]

it's just not related to the show at all, and it's pretty obvious that the remastering was because of the show's success

[rose thorn]

There is like no proof of a remake-

Of any of them

[crystal forum]

i meant the fallout 4 update or whatever

[rose thorn]

and if they make a remake people will still complain

Oh

[crystal forum]

if it's a remaster

[languid meadow]

Fallout 3 was literally leaked with the oblivion one

And that was real lol so it's the one that is the closest to being real

[rose thorn]

The update released because it was literally the anniversary of fallout 4 jay

It’s the anniversary update

[languid meadow]

Also they just removed a bunch of trailers for fo3 and stuff from steam which they did for oblivion

[crystal forum]

so? to me it only could come about because there's a resurgence of fallout interest after season 1

[rose thorn]

[crystal forum]

idk if people realize that fallout was kind of a dying franchise before the show

[winter pine]

I'll probably play a Fallout 3 remaster just for Wasteland Survival Guide again lmao

[languid meadow]

Hey like how it was dying before fallout 3

[nocturne crest]

Tbf, before the show, it was just fallout 76.

[rose thorn]

Fallout 4 got the new gen update too btw

Don’t forgor

But it’s like

Done

They are done games

It’s not dead game

Fallout 76 gets updates because it’s a live service game

[crystal forum]

and fallout 76 was treated as a side project handed off to another team not the main bethesda one. if the series was still considered a flagship it would have been done in house

[languid meadow]

I don't think we'll get a nv remaster anytime soon but the 3 one is still the realest one we have any evidence for

[rose thorn]

Welp time to play terraria

[crystal forum]

i think fallout 76 will go down in history as another non main fallout game tbh

unless fallout 5 turns out to be some mmo coop garbage or whatever

[rose thorn]

I FORGOT

THE FALLOUT 76 UDPARE RLEASES TODAY

LMAOOO

the offical ame of the power armor isssss

ranger power armor

[languid meadow]

That NCR power armor is so gas I love it

[crystal forum]

tv shows just selling game skins like how kids shows used to be made to sell toys

it goes full circle

[rose thorn]

Legion pronouns

[crystal forum]

the franchise was losing interest because bethesda just fumbled their releases

[lament shoal]

NCR PA??

[jade holly]

Legate Lanius with the Glowup

But damn the gold is kinda not it imo

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[crystal forum]

again, the show pretty much revived the entire setting

[jade holly]

Silver or iron for Lanius would’ve been better

[winter pine]

Bethesda having to sell themselves to Microsoft to stay solvent and release Starfield just for it to be distilled mid

[crystal forum]

we'll have to see what bethesda will do with the newfound interest

[rose thorn]

76 has been doing good, I’m glad more people get to play 76 tho!

All the fallout games are good except BoS

[nocturne crest]

I think Bronze would have been a better fit.

[languid meadow]

I think most people who are hating the NCR power armor are weird with their battles, like of course of the nation with a real industrial base is gonna figure out how to modify a suit of power armor

[crystal forum]

im genuinely surprised they still update fallout shelter occasionally

the original app

[lament shoal]

I hope this brings an expansion to the burning springs main story questline. I've avoided it after completing the first couple of missions because there wasn't a way to kill the rust king

[crystal forum]

not the newer chinese one

[languid meadow]

The frame seems to be based off of the t45 a bit with t51 shoulders

[crystal forum]

fallout shelter is unironically a goated mobile game

[rose thorn]

I haven’t gotten a chance to play 76, I want to tho when u watch the show

Hey what biome should I build a bowling alley?

[crystal forum]

remember how fallout shelter had fallout 4 stuff before the game came out so it was like a teaser

[lament shoal]

Its very fun, I recommend it

[rose thorn]

I mena the new 76 update

Whoops lol

[crystal forum]

my complaints are purely about the aesthetics of the armour being just a rip off of the riot armour, also it's pretty hard to talk about how the NCR had the industrial capacity to do this when the games are always allergic to any kind of large scale civilizations being depicted

[lament shoal]

I don't think I'll use a different pistol ever again. This thing is way too good lol

[rose thorn]

When I play, should I play my responders character or make a new faction focused character

[languid meadow]

2 had this because it was actually easier to show than new Vegas who was limited via tech

Like trucks and shit were planned for NV

But you know it's new Vegas

[rose thorn]

I’m thinking underground, hell, or the desert

For my bowling wlleg

Alley*

Or wait til hallow

[crystal forum]

well still, i don't look at the armour from a lore perspective, i look at it from the perspective of the design team who had entire board meetings about how they could make the riot armour cooler and then coming up with "let's make it powered because that's what everybody wants!"

it's dumb pandering trash, imo

[rose thorn]

Making power armor for the protests make sense

[crystal forum]

what protests

[rose thorn]

Its a fear tactic

[rose thorn]

The literal reason why the riot armor exists

[crystal forum]

the riot armour PA is post war modification no?

or did they retcon it

[languid meadow]

Modified t51 it seems

No it's post war

[rose thorn]

the regular riot armor was made by the marines for the LA Pa for the LA riots

So the marines giving them power armor too makes sense or at least developing it

[crystal forum]

still, again, my complaints are purely aesthetics. lore wise i don't mind how much sense it makes

they could have made the NCR PA look completely different

but they chose to make it look like a PA riot armour

in such a blatant way too

do you guys know the origin of the NV riot armour anyways?

[rose thorn]

YES

It was made by the marines for the LA PD

for the LA riots

I literally just said it

[crystal forum]

no sorry i meant where the design idea comes from

[rose thorn]

Oh

[crystal forum]

it's originally from the description of a character's outfit in i think fallout 2?

a guy wearing a trench coat and a gas mask

[languid meadow]

Is it wasteland?

[crystal forum]

i think so, i mean it's hard to tell the IP's apart since they were pretty interlinked during the dev process

but i know the idea of the riot armour originates from an older character

[languid meadow]

Wasteland 3 has a bunch of art that looks like the concept of the ranger patrol armor

[crystal forum]

i'll look it up

The armor was largely designed by Massive Black artist Wesley Burt. The initial concepts were inspired by Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade, though the armor evolved into a unique design following requests from Joshua Sawyer, including jeans and a trench coat to give the armor a Western vibe.[Non-game 3] It also took beats from Tycho's description in Fallout, as Tycho himself is described as "a man in dusty leather armor with a trench coat and gas mask."

anyways the whole vibe of the riot armour was supposed to evoke a futuristic cowboy

and the show's PA just bastardizes it

i don't like it, i think it's lazy character design meant to hit nostalgia points and i hate that it doesn't even look good

[languid meadow]

I personally like it as a one off experimental thing for a ranger yeah I think the helmet should've been done better but the general design is cool

[crystal forum]

the gorget or whatever it can be called is what really ticks me off

bro i hate fandom so fucking much why do they make it impossible to copy images

[languid meadow]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/zS5pHNVISK @arctic talon slork...

[crystal forum]

https://i.etsystatic.com/9791715/r/il/371a5b/1911935166/il_570xN.1911935166_5ni0.jpg

where the 08 is

they copied it and put it on the PA as like a shell deflector or whateve

like.... why?

[arctic talon]

The dawn of slork…..

[rose thorn]

hey elite what should i build in the desert

[languid meadow]

Bethesda would become the best company if they remade BoS

Just saying

[opaque coyote]

B A W L S E N E R G Y

Y'know the funniest part about BoS is that the story actually isn't half bad.

Problem is that there's no roleplaying... and the game is somehow worse than the classics

Actually it's just boring as shit

I expected to laugh while playing but instead I turned it off after a bit because it's literally a mindless button mashing simulator

...at least this scene is fucking comedy gold

https://youtu.be/b6mJBOkN8cg?si=yQEoQxEJQxqKRjuF

[jade holly]

I bear great news, NVIDIA’s 100 billion dollar deal with OpenAI is now stalled

It’s NOT officially canceled, but it’s no longer in motion

[opaque coyote]

The piss literally just blasts out of him like a fucking flamer

[winter pine]

Great Recession 2 + more, even worse Epstein stuff dropping in time for the summer? oh goody

You guys ready for 2020 v2?

[opaque coyote]

It could be a renegotiation but given how OpenAI is fucking shooting itself in the foot

...

Yeah

[jade holly]

And Microsoft stocks are down monumentally

[opaque coyote]

Deserved

[jade holly]

I think they’re seeing the writing on the wall that Ai just isn’t worth investing in right now

[opaque coyote]

I updated my PC and it blasted me with "PLEASE SET UP COPILOT!"

[jade holly]

Hopefully

[opaque coyote]

Like shut the fuck up

[winter pine]

inshallah we're in the universe were OpenAI goes down and takes Microsoft with them

[opaque coyote]

Skipped all that shit

[jade holly]

This will greatly impact the Trout population

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-21566940

[opaque coyote]

Imagine a cadian soldier saying this while the Blackstone Fortress gets rammed into the planet

"Man... fish stocks are gonna be lower no-"

[daring creek]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-the-harvest-is-beautiful-this-year-dog-eating-strawberry-dog-happy-dog-gif-25096638

[jade holly]

Damn, I already paid my taxes

[sacred bluff]

otay chat

i watched a video that said horus was most afraid of his brother lion el johnson

because of the technology the emperor trusted him with

and how dangerous it was

is this true

[sacred bluff]

is he eating strawberry

[hollow lantern]

Idk about most afraid but the DA had a lot of fucked up weapons during the heresy

@arctic talon DA had shackled men of iron or something right?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[sacred bluff]

i read the first book of gaunts ghost

and i'm pretty sure they had this device, idk the name of them but they're old and important in the 40k universe, and it created men of iron but they were corrupted by chaos

ST something

[daring creek]

nah he munching a tomato

[sacred bluff]

🤮

[daring creek]

bruv

wats rong with matos

[sacred bluff]

it has to processed into ketchup, marinara, etc to be good

[vagrant fox]

Standard template construct STC

[vagrant fox]

They're pish

[plush mason]

lmao

[storm jungle]

damn too spicy 😩

[winter pine]

saving this in the event I need to ragebait a Black Templars fan

[languid meadow]

Word bearers have some serious swag

But like their competition is

Idk the fucking world eaters who have no swag

https://fxtwitter.com/KumratArt/status/2017329465391710370

Kumratte (@KumratArt)

Huron dying in a gluetrap

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[spring cairn]

curse of khorne, destined to be kinda boringg

[languid meadow]

I mean

I guess Warhammer fantasy warriors of khorne have swag

[spring cairn]

in fantasy yea

they also have valkia so

[hollow lantern]

I love the WE look ngl

The sleeveless gladiator aesthetic is mint

[spring cairn]

i like their pre-fall scheme

that's about it

[opaque coyote]

LMAO

[torpid wharf]

Now I need to rage-listen to Fulgurite again. It still upsets me

[storm jungle]

one of the most pointless stories in that "book"

[torpid wharf]

I'm biased towards short stories and novellas myself, but that one... I really hope it's setting up something really interesting for The Scouring series

[storm jungle]

Its not.

Narek is like THE footnote of footnote characters in 30k

[torpid wharf]

Shhhh, let me pretend 😭

[storm jungle]

Fulgurite was one of the most criticized "why is this even here" Shorts in that book.

the entire anthology in general was just horrible imo

such a waste of good story potential for all of them

aside from Katsuhiro's i was barely getting through them

[torpid wharf]

The Sisters of Silence one I took more issue with in that anthology, but that's just stylistic preference on my part

[storm jungle]

tbh that was alsoo another "why is this here"

like-

why are we covering this one sister during the siege

just because Abnett can be like

"GET IT READER, THEY ARE READING IN THE LIBRARY FOR ESCAPISM, JUST LIKE YOU!"

Yes Dan. We get it.

[torpid wharf]

Some of the BL authors need their editors to take out their red pens lol

[storm jungle]

Abnett is the worst case of that lol

[torpid wharf]

Finally someone agrees with me

[storm jungle]

[torpid wharf]

I'm picky about the BL novels I'll recommend. I tend to read based on the rare content that exists for the factions or characters I like... and then I'll step out of that comfort zone for certain authors. And/or Horror and Crimes but that's more in the #40k-book-club talk I suppose, haha

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if GW will do that thing from a few years ago again, where they gave some chaos warbands their own unique gear and abilities.

[arctic talon]

Subfactions probably aren't coming back

[daring creek]

I see the topic is yaoi

[arctic talon]

for the forseeable future

[nocturne crest]

Yes, Chaos Seme marines.

[storm jungle]

Nah you can talk about it her eto lol we arent strict about channel usage that much

[hollow lantern]

The dark days of dabnett being considered the end all be all best BL writer seem to be ending tho

I feel like nowadays a lot of people like Wraight

[storm jungle]

Nah people will always dickride abnett

[nocturne crest]

They're known for fighting the Uke marines.

[storm jungle]

hes basically a BL legend

even the people that disliked his ""magnum opus"" End and the Deaf were clashed by people that loved it

[torpid wharf]

I'm checking out the Scouring book purely because Chris Wraight wrote it, haha. Besides him, I tend to like Nate Crowley, Josh Reynolds, Danie Ware, Peter Fehervari, and Victoria Hayward, in no particular order.

[hollow lantern]

Ive got a soft spot for Steve Parker tbh

[torpid wharf]

The name didn't ring a bell, but when I saw what he's written, I've liked most of them c:

[nocturne crest]

Damn it. BL makes me think of Boys Love than Black Library now.

[hollow lantern]

Same, think he's underrated as far as BL authors go.

[hollow lantern]

Buddy this says more about you than the acronym.

[nocturne crest]

True.

[torpid wharf]

I was (technically still am, I guess) really into a series that was abbreviated as BJ quite often and... mmm.

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-beverage-sparklesip-the-drink-swag-meal-the-meal-gif-25421049

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if Abnett could write a gay love story.

If he hasn't already.

[hollow lantern]

They won't let ADB write his romance novel so probably not

[storm jungle]

Abnett seems like a guy that would secretly be homophobic so prob not

[hollow lantern]

Abnett seems painfully hetero

[daring creek]

[winter pine]

Dan Abnett is about 60 years old so seems like a gamble

[storm jungle]

^^^

like

the way this guy writes women is

skintight outfit

very sexy

[winter pine]

Gen X'ers are a crazy generation on social issues

[daring creek]

Don't remind me

lmfao

[winter pine]

No offense to Mr. Abnett if he isn't an insane lead poisoned Gen X'er lmfao

[storm jungle]

I maen

have you read End and the Death

[nocturne crest]

I haven't. I ain't got spare change.

[winter pine]

Need to find a hook up for good audio books before I commit to the Heresy series

[storm jungle]

"heresy series"

[hollow lantern]

I still can't believe the HH is a casual 75 books or so

And somehow this wasn't enough of the primarchs for GW

[winter pine]

my autism makes me bad with words sometimes, sorry boss

[nocturne crest]

Actually, I'm about to ask out of curiosity, but has there been any Trans characters in any GW series?

[storm jungle]

Some yes

[hollow lantern]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

The new age books introduce a few and they are all written very good

[nocturne crest]

Interesting.

[storm jungle]

Like theres even trans necrons lol

The protagonist asks why he went from being a man to a woman

and shes like

[nocturne crest]

That's neat.

[storm jungle]

"I wanted more titles befitting my station."

and his reaction is simple

"Hm. Anyway so I need your help."

STRAIGHT TO BUSINESS

[hollow lantern]

Crons got bigger problems lmfao

[storm jungle]

^

Bros deep in politics

[winter pine]

I think Da Big Dakka covers it with the Eldar

[storm jungle]

It has a trans succubus yeah

he went to be one because its the only way you can respectfully get that station

as male succubi are not a thing

[winter pine]

Mike Brooks is a true MVP, bless him

[storm jungle]

^

[tough haven]

Iron lung was so good

[storm jungle]

Brooks is queer af, his books are fun too

[arctic talon]

Void Scarred would be improved if it had more gay sex and less orks

I mean what

[tough haven]

More gay sex and more orks

[arctic talon]

no

the Orks are easily the worst part of the book

[tough haven]

Ork gay sex

[arctic talon]

lol

Orks aren't male or female

smh

[lament shoal]

Gay sex WITH the orks

[tough haven]

Makes all of them gay

[arctic talon]

some orks understand sexangender

[tough haven]

I know, but for the purposes of the bit

[arctic talon]

But Ghazkull is not man

[tough haven]

They find it… funny

[arctic talon]

Snikrot is disgusted by it

LOL

wait

Grotsnik

not snikrot

[tough haven]

Fair

[tough haven]

But the blood axe doing the translatin’ finds it entertaining as a silly concept

[arctic talon]

Its grotsnik thats disgusted

[tough haven]

How so?

[arctic talon]

Brooks cannot help himself

I'm not elaborating

lol

[tough haven]

I at least found them somewhat entertaining

[arctic talon]

You know what I mean

[nocturne crest]

Okay, so, female space marines aren't possible yet, but could a space marine transition?

[arctic talon]

Im not sure if estrogen would literally do anything to a marine

[tough haven]

Probably not

[arctic talon]

with how fucked up their biology is

[tough haven]

They can’t even transition to human

[nocturne crest]

That's a good point.

[tough haven]

And with the psycho-conditioning, unsure they can even identify as something else

[hollow lantern]

They're just a meat shell full of organs to kill better tbh

[arctic talon]

yeah

[tough haven]

Yeah

Space marines are trans

It’s in the name

[arctic talon]

transhuman™

[tough haven]

Trans-human

[torpid wharf]

IIRC, Solana, the Historator from the Cawl books, is either trans or enby

[tough haven]

Yeah, that’s common within the cult mechanicus

[languid meadow]

Another admech W

[tough haven]

Real

[languid meadow]

Also the canon the trans necron

[tough haven]

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only trans rights

Because we have a whole other slew of human rights to revoke

And we have to focus on removing inhuman rights

[languid meadow]

Hey speaking like this is bad against the imperium, now you have to go to The Chamber™️

[tough haven]

The Chamber?™️

As long as I don’t have to go to space king

[languid meadow]

Seeing someone complaining about the movement animations In DoW4

And asking "is this a WIP?" With a clip that says WIP at the top

"Doesn't mean everything will be improved" when given an answer they don't like

[jade holly]

Do space marines even consider themselves human or just bio weapons?

[languid meadow]

A lot of them see themselves as above humans

Some see themselves as humans though this is rarer

Some do also see themselves as just weapons but we mostly just see the former two

[storm jungle]

^

The supremacy is ingrained into them

its bad enough that they refer to humans as "mortals" which in itself is hilarious when you consider your average marine can die like anyone else too

[arctic talon]

Mortals has a very different meaning depending on who's saying it

lol

Marines it usually means non marines

[storm jungle]

Its still the same weight tbh

its to make themselves seem like gods when they are about as petty, fallible and mortal lol

[arctic talon]

oh absolutely lol

Daemons saying mortals is funnier

[storm jungle]

yeah there it makes sense

since- well they arent even human lol

Im pretty sure most writers are aware of the irony of it with astartes anyway.

[plush mason]

isnt Abaddon a massive space marine supremacist?

[hollow lantern]

Iirc yes

[fervent geode]

Yes

Many of the Sons of Horus literally fought the heresy because they believed Astartes should dominate humanity

[jade holly]

Man

I dodged a fucking bullet with deciding not to go into the game industry just yet

OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME

Quick little story time

So for my workplace (I make pizzas) we have a uniform where we need to wear a hat

I managed to misplace mine and I started having a panic attack over it cause I needed it to be able to work, we couldn’t work if we didn’t have it cause working with food and all

IT WAS UNDER MY FUCKING COWBOY HAT THE ENTIRE FUCKING TIME

Thankfully though there was a random spare no one collected that I was allowed to have for free

[arctic talon]

Yeah the black legion are the space marine supremacist faction

[opaque coyote]

Gonna be honest here

It'll be harder to find a Chaos SM chapter that isn't SM supremacist

Actually are there any who aren't supremacist?

[jade holly]

Salamanders?

[opaque coyote]

Chaos SM

Not loyalist

[jade holly]

Iron Warriors? They’re machine supremacists

[opaque coyote]

Nah they're definitely SM supremacists

[jade holly]

idk only ones I can think of are the DG

I don’t think many of them even know what they really are anymore

[jolly summit]

the Red Corsairs seem pretty chill

[fervent geode]

Certain Word Bearers, they no longer care about the difference

Humanity are the chosen of the Gods

Hell they even venerated Cyrene Valantion who was a baseline human

[jade holly]

Call me suspicious, but I detect WB propaganda

[fervent geode]

Its true

Many of them see baseline cultists as mongrel dogs (Marduk)

But they respect humans who have served the gods well/proved themselves

[jolly summit]

Salamanders have a very wholesome rship with Humans

[fervent geode]

The IW only see the humans as good for slaves and fodder based on the Triarchs and Honsou at least