It seemed like it to me but it's been like 40 years since I've seen Ghost in The Shell
#40k-lore-chat
vagrant fox
storm jungle
🫡
vagrant fox
no
storm jungle
yes
vagrant fox
unless I can shoot the president I won't get out
near wasp
What do you mean by that
storm jungle
What do you mean by that
have you read any of the End and the Death books
where it fucking swaps chapters after either 10 or 2 pages
and jumps from like 30 characters to each constantly
vagrant fox
Waffles on about nothing
vagrant fox
I'm still not over the chapter where Ahriman shows up to talk shit about nothing, what was the point of that chapter
storm jungle
^^^
I think the books got some fantastic bits but its the epitome of Abnett unleashed. When you learn his editor Nick kyme didnt even do his job properly i.e just told him that "Write as much as you want dont worry about the wordcount" it explains outright everything.
You can cut so much from these 3 books and essentially miss nothing.
celest dome
I prefer Scorpion shaped walkers
near wasp
have you read any of the End and the Death books
No I haven't but I planned too
I guess not anymore
vagrant fox
Overall I think it's mildly worth it
storm jungle
^^^
vagrant fox
It has some really cool bits, just a lot of unnecessary nonsense
storm jungle
Read it BUT skim if you find a portion boring.
just pay attention to some shit otherwise you really arent missing much, its still worth a read like Sig said.
near wasp
Read it BUT skim if you find a portion boring.
Well kinda a problem since I usually audio book
Guess it means I better epub it
storm jungle
Well kinda a problem since I usually audio book
you do not want to audiobook those lol
it will take you prob a month or two for those 3 books, they are extremely long in yap-book format
near wasp
Alright it's getting dragged way down the list
vagrant fox
Jonathan Keeble managed to make it entertaining enough on the slower chapters
Helps I was listening while driving and doing chores and such
shadow plover
you *do not* want to audiobook those lol
WRONG, the audiobook version literally makes it so you don't get bored in any part of the trilogy
storm jungle
WRONG, the audiobook version literally makes it so you don't get bored in any pa...
❌
Engage the mimimir
shadow plover
skill issue
lament shoal
Space marine jump scare
shadow plover
So that's how stealthy marines work
storm jungle
Space marine jump scare
ALIEN BEANS
wintry cloud
you *do not* want to audiobook those lol
Yeah im gonna be honest some audiobooks can be a drag with how slow the author speaks
I started reading physical books recently and the pacing (because i set the pace) is far better
rocky gale
people have started shitting on fallout 2
Yea, like how long has it went without an update. Dead game
wintry cloud
And if i forget something its alot easier to just turn the page back, sometimes i get too lost and im not sure how or when to go back in an audiobook
near wasp
Y'all better not be dhitting on my man frank
languid meadow
any book read by Richard Reed is elevated for me
I love his voice and how he does characters
lament shoal
ALIEN BEANS
near wasp
any book read by Richard Reed is elevated for me
Big true true
languid meadow
fallout 2 fans when you ask them what's good about the game outside the enclave
I throw ROCKS at you
near wasp
Ok I walked into that one
west pendant
Cadia was a shithole
storm jungle
Yeah im gonna be honest some audiobooks can be a drag with how slow the author s...
Its usually not a bad thing but like the End and the Death is LONG.
- Volume 1 is 672 pages
- Volume 2 is 672 pages
- Volume 3 is 432 pages
THATS 1776 FUCKING PAGES. COMBINED.
Your average 40k book is about 300-ish pages long, now imagine this in an audiobook format, it would take you a fucking month at least to finish the first two books lol
languid meadow
saw someone describe the comedy in the game as south park humor turned up to 11 and after playing it yeah that tracks
those 300 pages are also like
12-15 hours
storm jungle
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
languid meadow
audiobook wise
west pendant
so about 40k lore
storm jungle
Its INSANE how much yapping is in this book
holy shit
IT IS THE END
AND THE DEATH
for it is the end of our death
yes abnett
brilliant
west pendant
theres a lot of books
west pendant
did you guys read them all
storm jungle
did you guys read them all
Thats impossible humanly speaking lol
this setting has been around for over 30 years
west pendant
so where does one begin?
wintry cloud
Im not gonna lie to you guys i did jump to the last four books of the heresy
Echoes of eternity was hyped to hell so i started there
Then read 1-3
near wasp
And find a book tbh
west pendant
all of them are cool
wintry cloud
Maybe someday ill read the heresy but not today
storm jungle
all of them are cool
Theres an equal share of Shit to Good books
storm jungle
so where does one begin?
languid meadow
the only faction you're gonna be fucked to find books is nids
which is a shame
closest is GSC
near wasp
I recommend either infinite and divine or mad doc grotsnik
storm jungle
Im not gonna lie to you guys i did jump to the last four books of the heresy
Ec...
I love people who say you gotta read a majority of the Heresy to understand Siege when you very much dont lol. You at best need to read maybe 10 or 15 books out of 64 of them.
languid meadow
I LOVE infinite and the divine but I'd say read Twice Dead King first
rocky gale
did you guys read them all
I've ordered like 5 books in the last two weeks and that's not even all the books they've released in the past 2 weeks, it would be impossible to keep up with everything
vagrant fox
I read like 6 and got through Siege entirely fine, it's not advanced mathematics
storm jungle
YEP
languid meadow
Twice Dead King gives you an overview on how Necrons really are from their point of view
storm jungle
its just such elitism
languid meadow
it's depressing
storm jungle
I hate 30k fans
they literally look down on people for not reading most of the Slopresy as if its even required lol
Dropsite Massacre your marriage first before you judge me broski
😭
near wasp
That'd require any 40k fan to be married
languid meadow
dreadnaughts have two moods, hilarious grumpy grandpa or depressing ptsd ridden walking corpse
what the fuck I missed TKs coming back to blood bowl?
rocky gale
That'd require any 40k fan to be married
Don't you feel silly, what with my husband right here
west pendant
hmm, what class should I play in darktide, im new
languid meadow
depends on the fantasy you want to experience
languid meadow
then try em all
near wasp
I have one of every class
west pendant
I cant
I dont have that much time on hand
maybe I should dice-roll or something
random number generator
are they all super different in terms of gameplay?
alright I got veteran
i guess ill try that, seems the most basic
lament shoal
He is serving so much cunt with that pose
rose thorn
himbo mummy
valid needle
people have started shitting on fallout 2
This is a very sad day
valid needle
did you guys read them all
Trying currently
I’ve done first 5
Dark Angel storyline
Imperial fist storyline
Space wolves storyline
Currently doing mechanics story line
Once I’ve completed all storylines I’ll converge on solar war and finish off with the siege
Then scouring book when that’s out
opaque coyote
they literally look down on people for not reading most of the Slopresy as if it...
YOU NEED TO READ AT LEAST 50 HERESY BOOKS
storm jungle
YOU NEED TO READ AT LEAST 50 HERESY BOOKS
rose thorn
Imagine if eldar had any books
valid needle
Imagine if eldar had any books
Cringe
The imperium was a peaceful utopia before the eldar came along
celest dome
storm jungle
Imagine if eldar had any books
read Voidscarred!!!
rose thorn
I will but audiobooks are so expensive
humble shoal
just pirate the audiobooks
vagrant fox
busy bein' chads
golden imp
I get all my audiobooks on audible ☺️
If I steal them, I will be cast down to hell as a sinner by James himself
rocky gale
stop buying audiobooks!
Got it, I'll get more physical books
rose thorn
just pirate the audiobooks
WHEREEEE
rose thorn
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
Pls I can barely read
rocky gale
but more gay
valid needle
stop buying audiobooks!
But how else do we read them
storm jungle
But how else do we read them
valid needle
Do you got the free books hookup?
vagrant fox
I can get you a premium version of Eldar Prophecy by CS Goto
rocky gale
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100
The face of my most trusted advisor as he hands me a refreshing goblet of wine
urban spire
buy me the book and i will read it to you on discord every night before bedtime
i WILL do voices
storm jungle
near wasp
This is why you have a cup bearer people
Jeez it's like you just became a tyrannical monarch today
urban spire
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100
me when my nephew who just became monarch today accepts my cup of refreshing wine
rocky gale
This is why you have a cup bearer people
I used to have them, but they kept dieing suddenly, my advisor assures me it must be some kind of sickness that's going about so I thought it best to just abolish the role.
lament shoal
https://tenor.com/view/cat-kat-kitty-kitten-evil-gif-10545349572153573100
Uncle Bao my beloved
arctic talon
There’s a fake looking world eater leak floating around
storm jungle
Uncle Bao my beloved
gesundheit
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
There’s a fake looking world eater leak floating around
lemme see 
storm jungle
Nah it’s obviously a kitbash
lemme see
near wasp
In other news my kidneys hurt. Maybe I should drink some water with my monster
storm jungle
I might steal it for reference lmao
arctic talon
But you can tell it’s wrong
humble shoal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1434467020891750481/1434467021176967228/I...
world eater apothecary
rocky gale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1434467020891750481/1434467021176967228/I...
That's the realist leak I've ever seen
arctic talon
It’s a very good kitbash though
storm jungle
a GW mini would have more flair
arctic talon
Also not enough trim
humble shoal
is the right arm a servitor arm?
arctic talon
If it is real I’ll be eating crow
But it looks like it’s made entirely from existing bits
rocky gale
it looks too lame
I thought you were going to say it looks too good and World Eaters aren't allowed anything nice
arctic talon
From AoS and 40K
storm jungle
I thought you were going to say it looks too good and World Eaters aren't allowe...
I mean does that need to be said
urban spire
we're going to go so insane if the class revealed isn't admech
remote wadi
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1434467020891750481/1434467021176967228/I...
That is bezerkius bile
urban spire
more insane anyway
remote wadi
storm jungle
tho again really wish Berserker-surgeons got a mini
this is the one we use for their lexicanum page
since its from White Dwarf
so basically canon-ish lol
rocky gale
Is there not a fairly decent HH one
storm jungle
Dont think so no
humble shoal
how is his armor still white
humble shoal
ah
storm jungle
^
rocky gale
Must be thinking of something else, can never remember all the HH hq models
storm jungle
Lmao wait
this is their chief medic
kitbash is technically official but still funny
arctic talon
Lmao
urban spire
tech marines feel kinda like tech heresy
storm jungle
how
urban spire
those guys aren't human
arctic talon
I know where the chest plate is from
urban spire
they brag about being posthuman all the time
humble shoal
they arent robots unless its Ironcock Hands
storm jungle
humble shoal
arctic talon
vagrant fox
humble shoal
vagrant fox
do it urself
humble shoal
my pronouns are "The Silent King"
storm jungle
my pronouns are dropping a fridge/on your head
humble shoal
my pronouns are dropping a fridge/on your head
So on your head, how are you doing today
storm jungle
So on your head, how are you doing today
hold still
humble shoal
actually I can do worse with that
humble shoal
This jackass is on her head's hair.
urban spire
these guys only have amateur nouns
urban spire
Haze 2008
west pendant
https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-meme-funny-idk-gif-27640147
omg thats evil
BTW, so, beside this warhammer 40k game, theres also space marine 1 and 2, should I play those as well? I also have rogue trader which is more of a crpg thing
proven needle
BTW, so, beside this warhammer 40k game, theres also space marine 1 and 2, shoul...
If you want to immerse yourself in the 40k universe Rogue Trader is fantastic.
humble shoal
you should play fire warrior (this is a joke)
urban spire
space marine 1 and 2 are good for a single playthrough, the multiplayer for 1 is dead, the multiplayer for 2 just isn't as good as darktide
rogue trader is good
proven needle
SM 1 & 2 are kinda like your bad action hero movies but can be fun.
storm jungle
^
Get em if they are on sale
but 100% get Rogue Trader
its one of THE best intros to 40k
urban spire
i've been annoyed trying to make a character for rogue trader lately
all the actual roleplay happens in the game, character creation is so dryyyy
urban spire
my girlfriend called me an ashy bitch this morning 💀
proven needle
i've been annoyed trying to make a character for rogue trader lately
If you play on low difficulty, just do what seems fun/your character. If you play on high difficulty, just follow a guide 😆
humble shoal
i love breaking the game with malpian shroud
sacred ginkgo
I feel like you'd only need a guide in high diff for early game optimization
urban spire
gonna play on normal and let the other characters carry me i reckon
just push buttons in chargen
humble shoal
they got rid of the executioner win button right?
sacred ginkgo
Because beyond that you get curse of open world and can grind up then destroy everything
proven needle
I love that some of the most powerful items are a saw and a pair of boots 😂
urban spire
also i've already played the tutorial once, so i'm dreading that again
arctic talon
they got rid of the executioner win button right?
Yeah
But it still does 1 morbillion fucking damage
So whatever
humble shoal
It was so funny though
arctic talon
It went from instantly win combat to make combat wildly in your favor
So same difference
humble shoal
with 4 of them
urban spire
what class should i put on a pyro psyker? just soldier for aqshy's run & gun?
humble shoal
I beat the final boss in like 2 turns
urban spire
best to just keep it simple i guess
arctic talon
what class should i put on a pyro psyker? just soldier for aqshy's run & gun?
Warrior or bladedancer is best but you could do soldier
sacred ginkgo
what class should i put on a pyro psyker? just soldier for aqshy's run & gun?
I used bladedancer but they nerfed it so no idea how it plays now
arctic talon
Pyro Psyker ironically likes melee
It plays the same
They just made death from above weaker
If you spam it repeatedly on the same turn
urban spire
oh well i don't want to do melee, i want to shoot fire lasers
sacred ginkgo
Don't you get your stats cratered for pirotte spam
arctic talon
Then yeah go soldier
urban spire
ironically i guess, given my pfp
arctic talon
Don't you get your stats cratered for pirotte spam
Only for the turn
urban spire
isn't there a respec?
arctic talon
Yeah
valid needle
BTW, so, beside this warhammer 40k game, theres also space marine 1 and 2, shoul...
Yes SM2 is absolutely BUSSIN
10/10
They releasing that sexy little double cheeked up sanguinary guard this month
sacred ginkgo
From all of what I hear sm2 kinda plays like shit
valid needle
From all of what I hear sm2 kinda plays like shit
Nah I’ve never had problems
hollow lantern
The only part of sm2 i really like is the campaign, but it's a cool campaign ig
valid needle
Only times I’ve heard of is pc players so probably potato pcs not able to run it
urban spire
sm2 supposes that slaying xenos and heretics is purely a homosocial activity for dudes, and i just can't support that
proven needle
From all of what I hear sm2 kinda plays like shit
It's sluggish cause it's made for console first.
sacred ginkgo
Nah I’ve never had problems
I'm watching zealot chat right now and the discussion about the melee fighting styles just boils down to "they're all stupid good but feel terrible"
vagrant fox
It's fine, it just gets boring in the long term for me
proven needle
The campaign was decent.
hollow lantern
I dislike how SM2 plays
I found it excessively boring but I was told it changed a bit after I stopped playing it
valid needle
We got the double tyranid prime operation this month too that should be good
arctic talon
The core combat loop is still meh to me
hollow lantern
The core combat loop when I played was parry+gunstrike and if you did anything else it felt completely useless
valid needle
Timmy longworth
arctic talon
I pretty much play the game when new content comes out
valid needle
Something like that
arctic talon
Then stop
hollow lantern
Toby
hollow lantern
Idk, I debated installing it for the Phaseblade
urban spire
tech marine might get me to pick up sm2
valid needle
It’s great and it’s very different to darktide so I just hop between both
urban spire
depending on how they implement it
vagrant fox
I'm burnt out on it tbf, prestiging every class was so mind numbing by the time I got to the bulwark
vagrant fox
But the core gamplay loop is very, just fine
hollow lantern
I stopped feeling the need to partake in the pve after campaign and the pvp was clearly not something they thought heavily about.
sacred ginkgo
Do it like payday where you can keep everything but you need more xp
valid needle
I mean you are going to play the game anyway
proven needle
I'm burnt out on it tbf, prestiging every class was so mind numbing by the time ...
Bulwark is one of the more fun classes to me 😆
valid needle
I stopped feeling the need to partake in the pve after campaign and the pvp was ...
PvP was crap but they’ve added helbrute mode now and all the chaos champion skins
Nightlords champion is coolest
hollow lantern
Why do i care about paid for cosmetics?
I'm not spending more money on a game i did not like that much lol
urban spire
me going to shop for clothes
hollow lantern
I also tbh did not like Dread mode in 1
rose thorn
slept on it for a day, what was that cult that thinks aliens are gonna take them to a nwe world again
arctic talon
The game has quite a few free cosmetics
hollow lantern
The chaos cosmetics are free
Thats at least good
urban spire
"there's nothing wrong with the burlap sack, it keeps me warm in winter, cool in summer, and keeps my modesty, why would i want any of this overpriced cotton shit"?
hollow lantern
Nah like I'll throw money at stuff i like
urban spire
no i'm joking, videogames is different obviously
valid needle
Why do i care about paid for cosmetics?
Why would I not want my big muscly men to be looking good?
urban spire
i reckon space marines aren't that strong out of the armour
that stuff is probably just propaganda
they wear the armour all the time so their muscles are probably atrophied to shit
buncha twinks walkin around in that bulky armour
hollow lantern
Why would I not want my big muscly men to be looking good?
They couldn't even take the UM icon off the purity seals for the BA champ armor iirc
I'm personally not paying for something that low effort
I don't normally buy the DT cosmetics either tbh
Most of them look like they were made by someone who was told what warhammer is
Instead of by someone who seems like they have an appreciation for the aesthetic of the setting
urban spire
they're kinda mid
for the most part
sometimes they pull out all the stops but it aint common
hollow lantern
Some of em are really good, most are not.
rose thorn
need to bounce off my genestealer cult concept tje wall and see what feeels natural
valid needle
They couldn't even take the UM icon off the purity seals for the BA champ armor ...
Aye hopefully it’s fixed when the patch drops
I’m willing to bet it was a mistake considering how hard they went with DA and BT champions alone
Plus the rest of the BA champ is perfect like straight 1:1 of the mini
hollow lantern
Tbh they were just the most recent example I could think of
rose thorn
just realized my cult sounds like a covid conspiracy
kms
waht ever ill send it
Their homeplanet primarily produces paper and was a paperwork hell, like most living spaces were filled with endless contracts and documents and legal buildings. Eventually for some reason the planet was accidentally marked as quarantine, the entire planet and then the entire system was locked down. Enforcers were automatically told to enforce a curfew, alarms constantly blaring telling citizens to stay indoors, every day that work wasn't being done the paperwork was being put behind by weeks or months. Eventually once the automatic payroll wasnt being paid the enforcers stopped working and the entire planet fell int utter chaos.
eventually a seemingly random ship landed on the planet with resources (and a few genestealers)
the genestealer cult rapidly grew from there and quickly implaced it self as the center of it's society
the cult believes that they are the only beings left in the galaxy, all else are inhuman abominations in the shape of people. The starchildren shall arrive and take them back to all the real people
storm jungle
just realized my cult sounds like a covid conspiracy
people literally attacked 3G towers during covid thinking it was spreading the disease
theres a literal mission in Darktide where you do this exact same thing
dont worry about it lmao
rose thorn
lmao
languid meadow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263278871651024898/1434404890750353408/RDT_20251102_005014.mp4?ex=6908dde7&is=69078c67&hm=fc24b52e7b9c9920cbb1e02c16ff202e46bb93aefaf1efcc333e146718a20696& reality is more often than not goofier than anything you could write
People are just interesting
storm jungle
^^^
queen laurel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263278871651024898/1434404890750353408/R...
This is me I am a good guy in baldur's gate but The moment someone says I am ugly I am blowing them up with a nuclear bomb
rose thorn
the cult spreads via sending obseen amounts of pointless paperwork and information with genestealers hidden inside
send spam to toherplanets htat has zero meaining and purpose
median star
and then the emperor woke up tore down half the imperial palace to build a ballroom
rose thorn
LMAO
median star
because uh
storm jungle
and then the emperor woke up tore down half the imperial palace to build a ballr...
HE LITERALLY DOES THIS TOO
languid meadow
he foresaw it
median star
yummers
storm jungle
you can just apply this to 40k for whatever reason, IRL history is crazy
queen laurel
people in europe ate fucking mummy corpses
Dry aged deliciousness
languid meadow
victorians also used mummys as paint
storm jungle
Dry aged deliciousness
celest dome
people in europe ate fucking mummy corpses
The British did that for the most part
languid meadow
some of the most famous paintings in history are made with dead people
storm jungle
The British did that for the most part
like i said, europeans
celest dome
And you know their cuisine culture
rose thorn
actually im nto sure if the cult shoudl beileve everyoen else was replaced or if they are mind slaves
vagrant fox
the br*tish are not european they're american lite
rose thorn
"oh yeah you are controlled by the chains of the goverment you must break your mental chains with the blood of the stargods" or what ever
queen laurel
the br*tish are not european they're american lite
It is just destined that if you are born French or British in the world your race will be mocked
It is a fate one cannot escape
rose thorn
or even they think that humans truely look like gsc, but hte imperium uses bullshit to supress hteir true forms to make htem weaker...
median star
median star
scroll twitter for 2-7 mins lots of inspirations
rose thorn
lamo
vital ginkgo
What is the general view on abhumans and psykers by the Adeptus Machanicus?
Also are there any known abhuman inquisitors? Like a ratling or longshank? Anything like that?
storm jungle
What is the general view on abhumans and psykers by the Adeptus Machanicus?
Slave labor.
Psykers are sent to the Black Ships.
storm jungle
Also are there any known abhuman inquisitors? Like a ratling or longshank? Anyth...
EXTREMELY rarely, we got example of a voidborn Inquisitor but thats kind of it, its impossible for most to be one because its just essentially not feasible for other Inquisitors to allow such a thing.
their mutations are simply too much of a hindrance.
celest dome
EXTREMELY rarely, we got example of a voidborn Inquisitor but thats kind of it, ...
And that is mainly cause the Voidborn are the least strange Abhuman.
Ratling, Ogryn, Squats... would never be elevated to Inquisitor status
vagrant fox
I forgot Heldane used to be a normal looking dude
that was the only thing I could think of
storm jungle
And that is mainly cause the Voidborn are the least strange Abhuman.
Ratling, Og...
Yeah its literally just a pale human with black voidlike eyes
arctic talon
What is the general view on abhumans and psykers by the Adeptus Machanicus?
Slave labor/curiosities/good servitor material
Psykers are interesting but not the mechanicus’s concern so they go to the telepathica
Remember
The mechanicus are a bunch of fucking psychos lol
storm jungle
Its kinda funny how unexplored the Mechanicus' angle is with psykers
arctic talon
We got some with psychic awakening
But those were awakened mechanicus psykers
Mechanicus tech for psykers or warp based stuff is also a thing but it gets 0 lore lol
celest dome
I'd like it if there were some Psyker in the Admech that are used by them as artisans for to make Force weapons and such
arctic talon
Ultimately empathy within the mechanicus only extends to those close to them
And even then in a weird and fucked up way
storm jungle
I'd like it if there were some Psyker in the Admech that are used by them as art...
They will get em when GW wants a mini of it
vagrant fox
more magi psykana lore now I demand it
storm jungle
so we can only wait lol
celest dome
Also Astra Telepathica Kill Team 🙏
storm jungle
depends
languid meadow
Now hear me out necron pariahs but with psykers and admech
storm jungle
do they need em on tabletop
actually why am i asking
they dont even care about it
arctic talon
No
storm jungle
lmao
arctic talon
Admech’s core weakness an army
celest dome
Would they be able to sell it
queen laurel
Admech’s core weakness an army
They don't have the same thing like Kharadron where they have a lot of antipsychic options?
arctic talon
No
celest dome
Didn't we have the teases toward it ?
celest dome
With that Null Skitarii that never panned out or something
arctic talon
Didn't we have the teases toward it ?
Psychic mechanicus members? Like 7 years ago lmao
The stuff was for psychic awakening
And imo likely lore only
For the foreseeable future
arctic talon
We’ve gotten more Psyker mechanicus members in lore
But they’ve “awakened” to it
But generally they like
Are just background stuff
celest dome
I honestly don't really think they'd be needed tbh
There are other stuff that would be better to add for the Admech
New types of (Electro) Priests
Battleline Tech Priests
arctic talon
I agree
lol
But GW will do what GW pleases
But I think Psyker tech priests are a long way off on that list
celest dome
Indeed, release a Techmarine for the Admech
languid meadow
the potential is cool but they wouldn't explore that and just make it so "this techpriest can now do this"
languid meadow
anyway I want MORE living psyker battery weapons
arctic talon
Indeed, release a Techmarine for the Admech
languid meadow
strap that mf to a kastelan
celest dome
Lectro-Maesters
young pecan
We’ve gotten more Psyker mechanicus members in lore
I was told Mechanicus psykers straight up don't exist
celest dome
So Tech Priest in theory
young pecan
Which confused me
arctic talon
I was told Mechanicus psykers straight up don't exist
Only via awakening
Which is rare as shit
celest dome
Basically from the moment you awaken you're bared from going higher
young pecan
What exactly is awakening vs. being born as a psyker?
celest dome
As most awaken young, it'd be impossible to become Tech Priest
And instead are sent to the Telepathica
young pecan
Ohhh awakening later into their life you mean
celest dome
What exactly is awakening vs. being born as a psyker?
Most Psyker aren't "born Psyker", as in already Psychically active the moment of their 1st breath
young pecan
I could see a cult making something to induce that actually
"Congratulations, you've given birth to a healthy baby boy screamer"
remote wadi
https://tenor.com/view/sigourney-weaver-aliens-gif-alien-alien-belly-alien-pregn...
As someone who is about to be a father why
remote wadi
What exactly is awakening vs. being born as a psyker?
Welp if Ur a born psyker you either a genius or a sociopath that can't escape the voices
When you have a awakening at least you got to be a regular teen
But Ur fcked
crisp heath
young pecan
As someone who is about to be a father why
CONGRATULATIONS
AND IGNORE THE ALIEN FRANCHISE
remote wadi
I know
proven needle
Just played SM2 with a pink lamenter, kudos to that player.
nocturne crest
Does anyone believe the berzerker-surgeon leak is real?
celest dome
The what now ?
storm jungle
Does anyone believe the berzerker-surgeon leak is real?
We were talking about it a bit ago
very likely fake
looks way too lame to be real lol
celest dome
Is it leaks toward the TT ?
young pecan
I bet you Fatshark is going to keep edging the community about adding a tech adept class
young pecan
It will remain a possibility for five years or something and they will subconsciously dangle it over us
I know
But they know we crave it 
storm jungle
nocturne crest
The what now ?
You want to see?
celest dome
You can DM it to me ty
celest dome
It will remain a possibility for five years or something and they will subconsci...
As dangled as the GSC 💀
celest dome
very likely fake
Tbf, other than Chaos Chirurgeon, what else could they add as Lord/Elites for the World Eater
storm jungle
Tbf, other than Chaos Chirurgeon, what else could they add as Lord/Elites for th...
idfk
still loos kitbashed
celest dome
still loos kitbashed
That's just cause the WE deserve nothing 💀
Same boat as Admech
remote wadi
Tbf, other than Chaos Chirurgeon, what else could they add as Lord/Elites for th...
I think WE new elite if they ever get one is just a named terminator with a khorne claw or someshit
nocturne crest
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1427636946540302376/...
Or if it is a fake, then they've modelled this into it.
remote wadi
But let's be honest WE isn't gonna get more attention than emperors children
EC sold the shit out
Their army rule is just superior
nocturne crest
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1427636946540302376/...
storm jungle
i really hope its fake
young pecan
I forgot World Eaters exist and thought y'all were aggressively saying "we"
storm jungle
it looks so basic
nocturne crest
it looks so basic
That's what happens when the cost of living goes up with Tariffs, got to make things basic and cheaper.
celest dome
I think WE new elite if they ever get one is just a named terminator with a khor...
They already have Azrakh
valid needle
How get audiobooks for free?
remote wadi
They already have Azrakh
Damn ok
nocturne crest
it looks so basic
Eithat that or GW trying to rush models out quicker
But definitely looks a bit ass.
celest dome
It is quite "empty"
Not much details
Compared to what one could think of a Lord unit
Look more like a normal infantry
nocturne crest
There is probably no detail underneath it.
sour hornet
https://tenor.com/view/sigourney-weaver-aliens-gif-alien-alien-belly-alien-pregn...
What the fuck is this
nocturne crest
Why would there be a key on the apron?
arctic talon
Why would there be a key on the apron?
because its from an LSM kit lol
its from the new BT dude
or at least converted from it
I'm like 99% sure this is a very high effort conversion
Legs resemble the berserker kit legs
storm jungle
the proportions are also just off
its hard to describe but your brain picks up on it
nocturne crest
storm jungle
LMFAO
storm jungle
It is but someone also impsoed it into this video lmao
near wasp
I see
hollow lantern
I remember being really excited about the concept of a slaughterpothecary model in the WE range refresh
hollow lantern
man tell me about it
If you really want that I can tell you I was so ready to pick up a WEs army again post refresh cause they were my OG OG army back in the tail end of 5th and beginning of 6th and I was so excited to see some real WE deepcuts of lore like Slaughterpoths and then they made up Eightbound and dropped a kinda meh Angron model and then I did not splurge on a new WEs army.
nocturne crest
Imagine if this was a model from GW, but they're leaking it to see how the public feels about it and whether it needs modifying.
hollow lantern
GW purposefully leaks stuff pretty often iirc
But it doesn't normally look like that
Like the pixelated "leaks" are normally GW is my understanding of it
young pecan
you never watched Aliens????
The Alien franchise has stolen my favorite pick for horror in both movies and games
Bastards
hollow lantern
Alien Iso is legit the best horror game in that era
I think the only horror game post its release i like as much as it is The Bunker
young pecan
Alien Isolation could come out today and it would still be phenomenal
hollow lantern
I agree, they really gave a fuck making that game
hollow lantern
Its amazing what like, a competent game company can make when they're not using every single shortcut imaginable on a preformed engine
Iirc Alien Iso has it's own engine made for the game
young pecan
Love games where the villain learns your behavior
I also think it's funny that the Alien has a built-in omnipotent voice that snitches on you juuust a little
storm jungle
GW purposefully leaks stuff pretty often iirc
You can tell it isnt on purpose when they rush to release a mini-reveal yeah
like Angron or the latest Kill-Team which was hilarious
because it fucked up their entire roadmap lmao
hollow lantern
Angron was really funny tbh
Angron leak into Angron dropping on a random ass Thursday or something
spring cairn
there's a joke to be made here but idk if i can
sour hornet
you never watched Aliens????
"You've never watched Aliens? (1986)"
storm jungle
"You've never watched Aliens? (1986)"
Its literally one of the most famous sci-fi and horror movies of all time
so this meme is ironically more out of touch
lmao
sour hornet
I found out about it through fortnite
storm jungle
Thats when I saw Aliens while channel flipping
i uhhh
couldnt make it past the hive ambush
it scared the shit out of me lmao
hollow lantern
God I was locked in tbh
storm jungle
Yeah you were stronger spirits than I
hollow lantern
I saw AvP when I was real young
Like I think 11 or something
FX was cool when it aired real movies
raven stone
I might be badgering people with some Rogue Trader background.
Now that I actually completed the miniature conversions for both the Inquisitor and the RT, as much as I also need to paint...I also want to start writing stuff for the characters
hollow lantern
Tbh I have trouble conceptualizing them as a person so I'm just not thinking about it too hard
spring cairn
and ik alien
hollow lantern
Like fym you learned about alien from fortnite?
spring cairn
how tf u don't know alien
raven stone
define young - nowadays 30s feel like the new 60s...
spring cairn
and discover it with fornite???
raven stone
(I'm 35+)
spring cairn
i'm 24
young pecan
First two pages of the Ravenor Omnibus and Abnett is having the full-body cripple foaming at the mouth over how voluptuous Kara Swole is
raven stone
yep def young lol
young pecan
Thank you Dan, never change
storm jungle
First two pages of the Ravenor Omnibus and Abnett is having the full-body crippl...
yeah uh
get used to that lmao
raven stone
Let me see if I can dig that old image up
young pecan
Already am from the Eisenhorn Omnibus thankfully
Unless he kicks it up a notch in Ravenor's
hollow lantern
It wouldnt be a dan abnett book if there wasnt thirsting over a redhead in a body tight suit
young pecan
Every good fictional book has the author's blatant fetish put in it
But also every bad fictional book has the author's blatant fetish put in it...
raven stone
damn too many writing triangles, can't find the exact image
but basically there is one where the three points on the triangle are...#
"Me", "Who I want to be", and "who I want to bang"
young pecan
The Name of the Wind
I beg of thee to check it out
Probably one of the most if not the most unique magic system I've seen before
spring cairn
idk if i can take recommendations form someone who plays the horse gacha game sorri...
young pecan
I also play Deadlock so I'm on like neutral ground methinks
spring cairn
pondering this rn
storm jungle
young pecan
misty vector
hollow lantern
All my homies hate Viktor
west pendant
guys what happens if I shout in public that the emperor sucks?
storm jungle
you get killed
west pendant
in the 40k world
hollow lantern
You probably get servitorized tbh
misty vector
Maybe one of those penance machines
hollow lantern
Be a shame to waste your resources
west pendant
Ok so, if this is a world where war is the norm, and millions of people die, how come they never destroy each other completely?
west pendant
how come there are so many people still alive to wage wars then?
storm jungle
the Imperium loses planets to strife all the time
storm jungle
how come there are so many people still alive to wage wars then?
we breed like bugs
young pecan
how come there are so many people still alive to wage wars then?
Big galaxy
storm jungle
theres uncountable gazillions of humans spread across the galaxy
west pendant
but a galaxy cant feed itself only on destruction
hollow lantern
It can certainly try to
storm jungle
Theres more to it, you are looking at this from an extremely wide lens.
west pendant
war by itself is not enough to make humanity prosper
young pecan
War naturally brings profit
storm jungle
They arent prospering
young pecan
Also that's the great thing
storm jungle
everyone is getting blown up
young pecan
Yeah that
young pecan
Humankind fucking sucks
hollow lantern
Humanity isn't meant to prosper, the Imperium is fwiw
west pendant
ok so if everyones getting blownup, the endgame is gonna be complete annihilation right?
young pecan
By huge tyranid fleet most likely yeah
misty vector
We can enjoy the fires while it happens
young pecan
Unless everyone teams up Undertale style or something
Which will never happen or if it does it'll be in 100 years (real time)
storm jungle
yeah I mean games workshop need to make money
I suggest reading the lexi
and its other pages
you're gonna have a lot of questions lol
west pendant
so, on our present real life earth there are 8 billion peoples right?
storm jungle
Yes
and dont ask
we dont know how many humans there are
its never gonna be given and is impossible
west pendant
well there must be an estimate
hollow lantern
"Trillions"
west pendant
trillions?
storm jungle
for example the planet we are on in darktide has 80 Billion in ONE hive city
west pendant
damn
hollow lantern
Hive is a very apt name for the city tbh
misty vector
There are mega earths everywhere
hollow lantern
Look
young pecan
for example the planet we are on in darktide has **80 Billion** in ONE hive city
Still think this would be fucking impossible to work, even with everyone starving
west pendant
How many people were on Cadia?
hollow lantern
The best advice I can give on the numbers of 40k is "don't stress them too much"
storm jungle
Still think this would be fucking impossible to work, even with everyone starvin...
It just does.
young pecan
It has to be like a Saturn-sized planet or something
storm jungle
How many people were on Cadia?
850,000,000
young pecan
And constantly importing
storm jungle
as per the lexicanum
west pendant
wait not that many
raven stone
Well it is training from hell
young pecan
For no real reason
raven stone
I mean, when you spent 10,000 years staring down Traitor Legions...
young pecan
Good soldiers can easily die by being unlucky or existing
raven stone
It ain't nice
hollow lantern
You say "child soldier" like the Imperium isnt built on them. They're just soldiers at that point.
young pecan
People dying is a REQUIREMENT for combat
raven stone
but it's a necessity
young pecan
So good soldiers are avoidably dying
west pendant
why aint they sending a space marine to fix the issues in darktide?
storm jungle
they are busy
west pendant
send a squad of the fuckers
hollow lantern
Atoma isnt really that bad to be real with you
remote wadi
Actually they are
young pecan
Daemonhosts in the middle of the streets
raven stone
https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829
(I mean, we are discussing Cadia lore so...?)
storm jungle
Actually they are
They arent. Dont mix up narratives.
paper haven
You say "child soldier" like the Imperium isnt built on them. They're just soldi...
I didn't say Cadia was unique here, just that their main export was them
remote wadi
Mostly cause if a space marine had the mental capicity of a regular human
hollow lantern
Daemonhosts in the middle of the streets
I'll consider it "that bad" when I see 2 CSM at once
tough haven
send a squad of the fuckers
Honestly the kinda shit these 4 crackheads are dealing with would challenge a marine
remote wadi
He is a chaos corrupted space marine
storm jungle
wha-
remote wadi
Chaos lures humans with our desires and ideas
young pecan
(I mean, we are discussing Cadia lore so...?)
Wdym
tough haven
And there’s only a few in each chapter
remote wadi
Space marines desires were stolen before they could form them
tough haven
And there’s only a few in each chapter
And few are at full strength
tough haven
Space marines desires were stolen before they could form them
You what
west pendant
I just got the space marine games, im gonna play those as well!
tough haven
They are completely emotionless
remote wadi
Exactly
raven stone
Wdym
I'm kind of just saying the lore presented to us (back when Cadia was around) is that the whole White Shield things is a necessity?
storm jungle
I just got the space marine games, im gonna play those as well!
Have fun with em! 
tough haven
I just got the space marine games, im gonna play those as well!
1s better than 2
storm jungle
I'm kind of just saying the lore presented to us (back when Cadia was around) is...
its really not
tough haven
Mistyped
storm jungle
its suppose to be grimdark
remote wadi
If you let them grow up before turning them to marines for first the changes won't work
west pendant
also , I want to meet the space elves, I always like the elfen races
remote wadi
For second they will be a easy prey for chaos
storm jungle
also , I want to meet the space elves, I always like the elfen races
Eldar are REALLY cool in 40k, you should read up on em
tough haven
If you let them grow up before turning them to marines for first the changes won...
Yeah from a biological standpoint
remote wadi
They have to be single minded people
raven stone
Well Cadia got blown to bits so I am not gonna fight too hard on the Cadia hill lol
tough haven
They have to be single minded people
The children being necessary are because the surgeries kill you if you are older
tough haven
You need the plasticity of children
west pendant
btw how does the fantasy universe factor into the future one?
young pecan
I'm kind of just saying the lore presented to us (back when Cadia was around) is...
Doesn't this work against your point because killing normal people who may or may not make good soldiers, bad for a force that is comprised of untrained people?
storm jungle
dont use child soldiers in more developed countries
hollow lantern
Guardsman? Probably started as a child soldier. Space Marine? Required to be a child soldier for the process to work. Custodes? You'll never guess. Baby soldiers.
west pendant
its just like an alternate take?
storm jungle
btw how does the fantasy universe factor into the future one?
It doesnt. Its seperate.
remote wadi
I'm not gonna say the empirium is a good
young pecan
And invoked because the need for manpower is dire?
remote wadi
But if they made space marines differently they would have been doomed earlier
tough haven
Marines have desires, hopes, goals, they have just as much to corrupt as humanity
raven stone
Look don't scream too hard at me I'm just repeating what the lore said :p
tough haven
50% of them were corrupted
remote wadi
Marines have desires, hopes, goals, they have just as much to corrupt as humanit...
They do yet they dont
tough haven
Not exactly a stellar success rate
hollow lantern
Some chapters are way more brainwashed than others tbf but a 40k marine absolutely does not have the same level of independence as a 30k era marine.
hollow lantern
Like 30k marines had some actual humanity to em
remote wadi
They aren't regular humans
tough haven
They do yet they dont
A marine being corrupted isn’t because their mind became lesser “like a human”
remote wadi
Mentally
west pendant
the most unrealistic thing is that there are trillions upon trillions of people in the warhammer 40k universe and they all speak with an english accent
my god that is terrifying
tough haven
They aren't regular humans
I understand that
storm jungle
the most unrealistic thing is that there are trillions upon trillions of people ...
its for your sake as the viewer
they arent speaking english in-universe
tough haven
They are still corruptible regardless of how old they were when they were made
west pendant
what do they speak then
raven stone
the most unrealistic thing is that there are trillions upon trillions of people ...
I mean, utlimately as a fictional setting there will always be more humans to drag out the bag, much like how the Eldar are always said to be dying but never gone :p
raven stone
what do they speak then
Also there is planetary dialects too
so humans of one planet may not understand another human from a different planet if not low gothic
tough haven
Read the lexicanum.
The Lex(icanum) is all
remote wadi
I mean, utlimately as a fictional setting there will always be more humans to dr...
Eldary issue is they don't have more souls
Humans still have souls
west pendant
btw are there any tvshows or movies in the 40k universe?
tough haven
Eldary issue is they don't have more souls
What…
storm jungle
btw are there any tvshows or movies in the 40k universe?
Theres some yeah but its paid subscription
remote wadi
Eldary if you die there's no reborn or new generation
storm jungle
Eldary issue is they don't have more souls
They literally all have souls
remote wadi
You just died forever
storm jungle
...
raven stone
btw are there any tvshows or movies in the 40k universe?
Lots of propaganda on Imperium side. "Would you like to know more" type of broadcasts.
west pendant
what you mean paid subscription
storm jungle
so do human souls
storm jungle
what you mean paid subscription
paid subscription
tough haven
Aeldari souls are far stronger and more valuable than human
remote wadi
Humans keep making new souls
storm jungle
what else can i mean lol
west pendant
I dunno
tough haven
Humans keep making new souls
In the sense that more are born, yes
storm jungle
and watch stuff
storm jungle
Eldar can
tough haven
Eldari cant
They can
tough haven
It’s just slower
west pendant
not that, paid subscription where?
storm jungle
not that, paid subscription where?
storm jungle
That was during the Empire
remote wadi
But now their souls are consumed by slaneesh
storm jungle
then can still make kids, where the hell are you getting this from
remote wadi
So no reborn
tough haven
Wasn't their thing to die
Their souls can be collected in stones to prevent that
Then put into constructs
Or an infinity circuit
storm jungle
They arent making souls
tough haven
All eldar variants have a different way to not get eaten
storm jungle
what the fuck
remote wadi
How would the old souls be reborn
storm jungle
what old souls
remote wadi
Cause in humanity we have perpetuals
storm jungle
oh my god
remote wadi
But eldary they could all do it
west pendant
warhammer needs that big budget tv show or movie to make it mainstream
like star wars
storm jungle
its already mainstream
tough haven
warhammer needs that big budget tv show or movie to make it mainstream
It’s coming
tough haven
Supposedly the Amazon show is coming
west pendant
decide, its either mainstream or a niche IP
remote wadi
It's just a question of logisitics
tough haven
It’s mainstream in the sense that it’s got name recognition
And people have heard of it
remote wadi
For you to be reborn as a child
storm jungle
It’s mainstream in the sense that it’s got name recognition
^
remote wadi
That means there was no new soul
tough haven
But it’s niche in its fans
west pendant
not really, star wars for example, even if I ask my 99 year old grandma who is illiterate, she probably will recognize the name
tough haven
That means there was no new soul
I feel like that’s a philosophical or existential debate
west pendant
thats mainstream, so embedded in our culture that anyone will know what it is
dapper gyro
Welcome to the era of the Internet.
storm jungle
not really, star wars for example, even if I ask my 99 year old grandma who is i...
Yeah really. People know of Dungeons & Dragons almost everywhere but barely most of them play it.
tough haven
Difference in definition
storm jungle
You can be mainstream and still remain niche.
west pendant
you can have niche products in that mainstream
storm jungle
storm jungle
you can have niche products in that mainstream
Both can exist, again.
Star Wars is mass appeal, its completely different
west pendant
once you are big enough, most people know about star wars but not everyone will have played knights of the old republic for example
dapper gyro
Recognition in name and recognition in consumption are 2 different things.
tough haven
Btw @storm jungle is this true or are folks pulling my leg
dapper gyro
Do you even know about the SWEU?
storm jungle
Btw <@166943308231344128> is this true or are folks pulling my leg
Who the fuck knows, i dont give a shit about cavill lol
storm jungle
hes a twat
dapper gyro
If you want to say Star wars isn't niche.
tough haven
Who the fuck knows, i dont give a shit about cavill lol
I was only keeping an eye on it cause Amazon’s release of 40K will likely steer the franchise
west pendant
his whole publicity shtick is that he likes nerdy things
tough haven
I still think he might be able to make something half decent
But I’d like to at least see how it plays out
dapper gyro
He is a nerd, yes. But people praise him. I don't think he even cares about the opinion of his fans.
storm jungle
I was only keeping an eye on it cause Amazon’s release of 40K will likely steer ...
genuinely hoping it flops
i hate the surface 40k fandom so much lol
west pendant
I started to dislike Cavill when he said that he read the witcher books, which was a lie, at best he played witcher 3 and called it a day
west pendant
his geralt was the geralt from witcher 3
storm jungle
and it doesnt even stand because his Jaskier co-star guy read most of the books in comparison
west pendant
which is vastly different than the one from the books
id even argue that the witcher 3 completely misshandled the source material
storm jungle
I mean
the games were never trying to be source-accurate
and it was for the better
and i say this as a huge Witcher fan lol
even having read about every book
tough haven
genuinely hoping it flops
I think no matter what happens I’ll be happy lol, if it flops I can point and laugh, if it succeeds and is a decent representation, I’ll be happy because more of my friends might get into 40K with me
west pendant
yeah I can see that, the books wanted to go for a more thematic approach
