Marines
#40k-lore-chat
outer wave
dusk patrol
I don’t think we need the snide little remarks when you’re not even reading what’s being said
normal stream
I strongly suggest looking up how much a video game publisher can impact the operations of a dev studio. I'll leave it at that. I've worked in the video games industry before and have seen it with my own two eyes.
dusk patrol
I strongly suggest looking up how much a video game publisher can impact the ope...
I didn’t say they can’t
I said they’ve already said they’re expanding it
normal stream
dusk patrol
And it’s made close to like 300 million in a month
Maybe more
Depending on how much of that was gold editions
vast crystal
He came up with "thunder warriors" before that
dusk patrol
https://tenor.com/view/goal-post-moving-gif-12540411
Where did I move the goalpost
forest orbit
I don’t think we need the snide little remarks when you’re not even reading what...
Idk man you are pretty annoying sometimes
and i say this as the templar dude
dusk patrol
It is very annoying to dishonest people when I try to hold them to a point yes I agreed.
vast crystal
and i say this as the templar dude
Shouldn't it sword brother eli then
crisp heath
This is why I'm glad I'm only into 40k to see my boyfriend (the swarm lord)
forest orbit
Shouldn't it sword brother eli then
Yeah but im too lazy
forest orbit
It is very annoying to dishonest people when I try to hold them to a point yes I...
Idk man being a hater is free
vast crystal
Yeah but im too lazy
It costs 13 seconds to change it
dusk patrol
I don't care if I'm annoying people if the only reason they're annoyed is I'm forcing them to actually back up points or calling them out on their bullshit.
rose thorn
moon knight biascally the new deadpool 
dusk patrol
Like this this, when we have the developer and the powers in charge of the game release a roadmap for this eyar and early next year, they've said they've increased the scope of support because of the success, and the game has been so absurdly successful in just a month.
normal stream
you underestimate how lazy i am...
I feel like I'm basically you right now. Can't be arsed to bother with internet debates/discussion anymore when it's not being properly engaged with.
dusk patrol
Unless they lie and back down from all that, idk why we're being negative.
forest orbit
I feel like I'm basically you right now. Can't be arsed to bother with internet ...
He does this a lot. Every time its "yall just cant argue with me", best to just leave it be. He's still going 💀
queen laurel
and i say this as the templar dude
Brother templar eli getting ready for another day of fighting the allegations
jade holly
Wait a minute
dusk patrol
I feel like I'm basically you right now. Can't be arsed to bother with internet ...
Yes I would also not want to argue when I have nothing to back up what I'm saying and I'm just being a doomer for no reason.
normal stream
He does this a lot. Every time its "yall just cant argue with me", best to just ...
@storm jungle's got their head screwed on right, I trust them.
jade holly
Doomslayer is known as the Doom Marine at times, and music always moves with him
Doomslayer is a Noise Marine
normal stream
dusk patrol
Its always telling when the only response is this sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBdGTX3vZc
jade holly
This is heresy to my Papa Nurgle
But if Noise Marines ever get modernized
You bet my ass I’m joining them
dusk patrol
Well the good news is
That is supposed to maybe happen this spring.
That's when the EC update is apparently.
jade holly
Slaanesh isn’t just sex right? It’s pleasure to any extreme?
Like gluttony, avarice
Noise
dusk patrol
But obviously since its 40k and we need them to fight its stuff like
Extreme sound, extreme violence or torture, obessession with the perfect duel.
Taking a shitton of drugs and experiencing new extreme sensations and all that.
jade holly
Do they have an actual name for the sub chapter or are they just noise marines
dusk patrol
Kakophoni
dusk patrol
Or Cacophoni
jade holly
Having them be a mainly noise focused chapter seems sick
Noise based weaponry ripping people apart with sound waves
dusk patrol
Its not a chapter its a unit type
jade holly
they deserve to be an entire sub chapter
jade holly
Forgot about that
dusk patrol
They do warbands and legions.
jade holly
dusk patrol
Legions are made up of Warbands
Warbands vary wildly.
Some legions are much less united than others.
jade holly
To make them stand out in the EC, they should be mainly silver and black with purple accents
that and have subwoofers strapped to them
Like
Everywhere
Essentially being a walking sound nuke
jade holly
Eh, could be way cooler
dusk patrol
jade holly
I love it, but it’s too cheesy for modern 40k
dusk patrol
jade holly
Saw someone paint it like this
arctic talon
there's a more serious version of the guitar marine which got done for MTG
dusk patrol
It would probably be a bit of an undertaking depending on how thematic you wanted it but sure
tough haven
bro someone pinged me in a nother server when I posted that same image, bro 💀 I dont even know where to start
queen laurel
bro someone pinged me in a nother server when I posted that same image, bro 💀 I...
Bro charged up the wall text cannon
storm jungle
Also I love the "fascists hiding everywhere"
the biggest thing i hate is these people gaslighting others into thinking these assholes dont "exist"
tough haven
Like they 100% are real and they are more common than you think
storm jungle
Yeah, I was uncaring about it once too but after ive seen so many friends get harrassed by these pieces of shit i just take action when i can about it (which isnt much aside from banning them in here at least lol)
tough haven
not everywhere but they are definitely online where theres less punishment
tough haven
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1Xpzeld6/the-imperium-is-driv...
saving this somewhere to use as future ammo
queen laurel
the biggest thing i hate is these people gaslighting others into thinking these ...
there is a reason those memes exist and some people get unfortunately rather defendant on their position
storm jungle
Ye it outright says 40k is satire
you dont need to be starship troopers level to still have that aspect
queen laurel
Ye it outright says 40k **is** satire
yeah but it's wrong because it's not my opinion so i'm right
that's like what boils down their entire defence to it's the funny part
tough haven
even worse, I know this guy irl and hes pretty decent outside of this
Oh gods he's still typing
normal stream
Yeah, I was uncaring about it once too but after ive seen so many friends get ha...
I stopped going to one of my local FLGS' because one of the That Guy(tm)'s was a dude who would always edgelord about this kind of shit.
normal stream
Ye it outright says 40k **is** satire
I still can't believe GW had to actually come out and make that statement, tbh.
storm jungle
İt was after that spain incident
storm jungle
Yeah and people still deny both of those posts
its just pathetic tbh
but what can you do lol
normal stream
I just copy and paste it in their face if they keep going
Why spend more any more effort than ctrl+v?
storm jungle
lolol
queen laurel
I just copy and paste it in their face if they keep going <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
yeah but their zealot racial slur build has this amazing combo where they will call you new slurs
storm jungle
Spain incident?
TDLR: Guy with nazi iconography participated in a official tournament and won because nobody wanted to go against him or be anywhere near him. This sparked a bit of outrage and the guy was not really dealt with due to Spain's weird laws regarding fascism. GW made a statement about it afterwards emphasizing 40k is satire and you shouldnt be a fascist.
jade holly
You know I was gonna say you don’t see people walking around going “I’m a fascist I’m a fascist” but that story kinda proves me wrong lmao
dusk patrol
It was notable for a reason
storm jungle
He named himself as "austrian painter" for the tournament
scenic bolt
He even registered under the name of austrian painter
storm jungle
which is fucking unhinged
nocturne crest
Yep.
dusk patrol
There’s always some weirdos but it’s not super common, he was a real dork
storm jungle
Guy absolutely knew what he was doing.
storm jungle
"some" is being generous but yeah
jade holly
storm jungle
Im gonna lean towards no because of the iconography
nocturne crest
Not the first time I've heard something like this.
storm jungle
and again spain's thing with fascism is very weird
since its not perfectly "illegal"
mostly due to the IRL history of the country but thats another can of worms
storm jungle
yep
dusk patrol
I don’t think it should be illegal but it’s definitely weird as fuck and should be ostracized
storm jungle
Bruh
scenic bolt
for a privately run event like a tournament they absolutely can and should screen stuff like that
storm jungle
They do its more that again Spain, so it goes ignored largely
jade holly
Bruh
Tbf you can’t really illegalize a way of thinking, you gotta call it out and make sure it doesn’t spread
storm jungle
Tbf you can’t really illegalize a way of thinking, you gotta call it out and mak...
When its fascism you deffo can imo
nocturne crest
Fun fact: there are people who are fans of 1984's Oceania and INGSOC.
forest orbit
The only good fascist is a [redacted] one
dusk patrol
There’s plenty of ideologies I think people are dumbasses for supporting that don’t think you should make illegal nor do I think the government should be trusted with deciding that
Since it never ends with “just the bad ones guys”
nocturne crest
There are some pretty wild Ideologies out.
jade holly
There’s plenty of ideologies I think people are dumbasses for supporting that do...
My worry with that is how people will define Fascism. Need I mention the wild time in the 50’s we call McCarthyism?
storm jungle
My worry with that is how people will define Fascism. Need I mention the wild ti...
Its not even comparable.
especially considering how bad actual fascists get lol
McCarthism was terrible but like 💀
nocturne crest
The idea of Soviet Monarchy is so silly.
storm jungle
scenic bolt
mccarthyism didnt have the bodycount
storm jungle
Well, mostly
but yeah
I dont really like.... this whole thing of "oh we shouldnt illegalize people being racist homophobes"
forest orbit
I was gonna say yea lol
this fandom is infested as it is so its not like you dont see it regularly
queen laurel
which is fucking unhinged
there is being unhinged then theres no longer attached to the door
storm jungle
Ye but anyway prob best to move on from it
stark plover
this fandom is infested as it is so its not like you dont see it regularly
this fandom is full of people who larp way too hard and instead of hating xenos they hate real life minorities
arctic talon
storm jungle
Same mood.
nocturne crest
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/77176186148499456/1221682373834444923/c...
I wonder if the Imperium would use animals like this.
Anti-armour animals mines.
normal stream
TDLR: Guy with nazi iconography participated in a official tournament and won be...
Not just "you shouldn't be a fascist", it was also "you're not welcome at any GW stores or events"
queen laurel
Anti-armour animals mines.
well they do have cybermastiffs
it's not really a suicide tactic but hey
cool robot dog
normal stream
I heard from some in the TO circuit that they were applying pressure on them shortly after to uphold those standards too, for GW-backed events
scenic bolt
I wonder if the Imperium would use animals like this.
would, absolutely
arctic talon
Not just "you shouldn't be a fascist", it was also "you're not welcome at any GW...
They got blanket banned from pretty much every 40k event
arctic talon
I wonder if the Imperium would use animals like this.
Prolly
Also on weird political parties fun fact there’s a communist party in Taiwan
It’s also never been allowed to participate in elections
nocturne crest
Tbh, the only animal that would be safe from having this done would be the eagle.
normal stream
Psyber.. eagles.. exist..
normal stream
hello coteaz dear friend
nocturne crest
Right, but you wouldn't strap a bomb to it.
normal stream
The imperium totally would.
jade holly
Right, but you wouldn't strap a bomb to it.
But we could
queen laurel
They got blanket banned from pretty much every 40k event
Strap Dynamite on the battlemutt
arctic talon
Dogs are all terrible in killteam
nocturne crest
Remember the pigeon guided missiles?
I remember the bat bombs.
normal stream
The Adeptus Mechanicus would 1000% strap a bomb to a psyber eagle.
nocturne crest
The Adeptus Mechanicus would 1000% strap a bomb to a psyber eagle.
It's an religious icon.
nocturne crest
Remember the gay bomb?
Yes.
normal stream
It's an religious icon.
Adeptus mechanicus don't care about your Ecclesiarchy icons
arctic talon
The kroot hound is prolly the best dog
queen laurel
Is cannon fodder
are Bomb squigs also in the same category?
arctic talon
are Bomb squigs also in the same category?
Bomb squigs are grenades on legs so no
jade holly
_Adeptus mechanicus don't care about your Ecclesiarchy icons_
They’ll worship a toaster before the Emperor
normal stream
not wrong
jade holly
They are the Tech Support you DO NOT want to piss off
nocturne crest
The Emperor is the toaster.
jade holly
Because then no funny weapons
queen laurel
Bomb squigs are grenades on legs so no
aight good to know
jade holly
No disposable servitors
normal stream
tbh they worship the throne more than the emperor
arctic talon
The emperor is the omnissiah
jade holly
tbh they worship the throne more than the emperor <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771883229061...
He basically is the throne now lmao
arctic talon
Lol
nocturne crest
He's just not finished being toasted yet.
jade holly
The throne, the toaster, and the holy machine spirits within technology
normal stream
Horus lobotimized him
arctic talon
Lol
normal stream
Horus also lobotomized Sanguinius
nocturne crest
Damn, Horus got a weird ass kink.
jade holly
Horus also lobotomized Sanguinius
And Fulgrim gave Ferrus Manus hea- no wait, the other way around
normal stream
queen laurel
Horus also lobotomized Sanguinius
stop motion animation about to be lit
queen laurel
waste of fucking money figures
i mean entering in warhammer is already a waste money so what's the difference
normal stream
^ he's not wrong lol
viral halo
i mean entering in warhammer is already a waste money so what's the difference
stop enjoying things
normal stream
what's more plastic crack
queen laurel
the moment you buy your first miniature you have already signed a pact
nocturne crest
So off topic question, but if Dark Mechanicum does become a tabletop faction, what would anyone here want out of it?
queen laurel
pact
siggy i am the last care about these things and only correct them because i want to
that's not gonna work on me
queen laurel
So off topic question, but if Dark Mechanicum does become a tabletop faction, wh...
extremely cool giant creatures or some shit
nocturne crest
What’s the least played army in tabletop?
Deathwatch.
nocturne crest
Exactly.
jade holly
Is it possible to have an entire tabletop army of tanks?
normal stream
I'd say Agents is still fairly heavily-played, since IIRC GK also got folded back into there
nocturne crest
We'll just have to wait and see if they come back as an indie army in 11th.
nocturne crest
Is it possible to have an entire tabletop army of tanks?
The guard.
normal stream
Is it possible to have an entire tabletop army of tanks?
The Guard used to have the closest you could get to it
Even had a HQ tank option
arctic talon
I'd say Agents is still fairly heavily-played, since IIRC GK also got folded bac...
No
normal stream
You still needed Mech Infantry though
arctic talon
Just death watch
jade holly
Just a good ole “Oops, all Lemann Russes and Rogal Dorns”
normal stream
Oh
arctic talon
Deathwatch
queen laurel
What’s the least played army in tabletop?
it depends most of the time but the very consistent ones are like Deathwatch, AdMech, Space Wolves, and Votann
jade holly
it depends most of the time but the very consistent ones are like Deathwatch, Ad...
I’md make an army
nocturne crest
Technically, you could stick some tracks on a sentinel and claim that's a tank.
arctic talon
What’s the least played army in tabletop?
Admech, gsc
jade holly
But I don’t even have materials to paint
nocturne crest
But I don’t even have materials to paint
Use cardboard.
arctic talon
Admech can be built cheap rn
jade holly
I’ve become the iron fan
queen laurel
Admech can be built cheap rn
painting them is not the most fun experience
jade holly
Iron Warriors and Iron Hands
jade holly
I like tech and body modifications alright?
arctic talon
When it comes to piloting
jade holly
queen laurel
A lot of details and details and shit
normal stream
AdMech weren't that much more expensive when I was still playing TT40k, what's new about them that made them more expensive?
arctic talon
AdMech weren't that much more expensive when I was still playing TT40k, what's n...
They’re just more expensive then marines
Lol
And guard prolly
crisp heath
I see I tech priest, they're just like me fr
arctic talon
Most of the price comes from ironstriders
jade holly
What’s the average cost of a tabletop ready army?
normal stream
Oh, but yeah, that depends on how you build your list though.
arctic talon
Yeah
arctic talon
What’s the average cost of a tabletop ready army?
Depends wildly
jade holly
Depends wildly
Give me a range
arctic talon
Custodes can get a tabletop ready army easily under 500$ rn lol
Uhh
Well
I’m gona do some math
I’ll be right back lol
languid meadow
I love elite armies
normal stream
A low-model count elite army will be much cheaper than a Guard army full of chimeras and guardsmen
crisp heath
You can do an extremely barebones 500 point necron army for like $100, only counting the cost of minis
nocturne crest
Use cardboard.
normal stream
Also depends on what points size we're talking here?
arctic talon
You only need 3 paints for the ultimate lazy cron army
Silver primer
Black and green
normal stream
Combat Patrol is cheap and is a valid game option
normal stream
A 2k game is going to be much more expensive
arctic talon
And yeah
normal stream
Well, yeah, but KT isn't proper TT40k :p
normal stream
CP still plays TT40k rules
arctic talon
You need to be at 2k to play
normal stream
For context, 2k is the "standard" army list (for those unfamiliar)
queen laurel
Killteam is cheaper
can you use the kill team models to replace warhammer 40K table top equivalents?
arctic talon
@nocturne crest around 700 to 800$ for a 2k point army assuming you aren’t building super hordey or admech chicken walkers or gsc bikes
If we include those 2 army builds
The price gets skewed
jade holly
<@374632722385076225> around 700 to 800$ for a 2k point army assuming you aren’t...
Still a better value than the PS5 Pro
arctic talon
Or you can just buy 4 combat patrols and call that a 2k point army
(Do not do this)
normal stream
Funnily enough, the ultimate "elite" army is Knights lowest model count
normal stream
Hence, funnily lol
nocturne crest
So off topic question, but if Dark Mechanicum does become a tabletop faction, wh...
TBH, but if Dark Mechanicum on the tabletop does happen, I kind of want to be like a mixture of building your own style of renegade admech, where you can either use chaos units, xenos tech or just use regular guard or SM gear that has been vastly improved at an expanse of cost or having a damaging flaw.
jade holly
How many points does this mini give?
arctic talon
So off topic question, but if Dark Mechanicum does become a tabletop faction, wh...
It already is one in heresy
arctic talon
How many points does this mini give?
Not a mini
jade holly
queen laurel
There was an epic one
orks also had that epic scale mega gargant i think
arctic talon
Yep
jade holly
Which of the big factions would you say is the least played
arctic talon
Wdym big factions
jade holly
By big factions I mean the broad term like the Imperium, Orks, Necrons, Nids, Chaos, Tau, Eldar
arctic talon
Oh
queen laurel
By big factions I mean the broad term like the Imperium, Orks, Necrons, Nids, Ch...
you mean just the main factions?
jade holly
you mean just the main factions?
Yeah
arctic talon
maybe drukhari?
normal stream
IIRC a Warlord was already 5k or 6k in Apocalypse battles, I can't even imagine how many points an Imperator would be
arctic talon
Drukhari then prolly
jade holly
What race are Drukhari?
arctic talon
IIRC a Warlord was already 5k or 6k in Apocalypse battles, I can't even imagine ...
40,000 points
jade holly
or faction
normal stream
Eldar
arctic talon
What race are Drukhari?
Eldar
queen laurel
What race are Drukhari?
Dark Eldar
arctic talon
Dark eldar
jade holly
Yeah makes sense
queen laurel
the extra spiky ones
jade holly
No one likes those stupid knife ears
arctic talon
They’re really hard to play
Lol
No
Craftworld Eldar
Are really fucking popular
normal stream
40,000 points
41,000 points now - gotta account for inflation
arctic talon
Idfk
queen laurel
They’re really hard to play
aren't they like eldar but squishier and faster ?
arctic talon
Eldar aren’t one big faction
nocturne crest
I wonder if anyone has ran a tabletop game inside of a titan before.
arctic talon
Technically
arctic talon
I wonder if anyone has ran a tabletop game inside of a titan before.
Would be fun for killteam
Super vertical map
jade holly
I wonder if anyone has ran a tabletop game inside of a titan before.
Imagine if there was a Darktide mission moving through a destroyed Titan scavenging for material
normal stream
Probably Tyranids then
arctic talon
aren't they like eldar but squishier and faster ?
Even squishier, faster, hit way harder, are 3 armies in a trench coat
I would have said nids yeah
normal stream
Or Votann
normal stream
yeah
jade holly
Nids became hot shit again
Especially after SM2
nocturne crest
Would be fun for killteam
Yeah, could use that as a way to release an Titan guard kill team.
normal stream
Yesss I want a Secutarii team
nocturne crest
Maybe have grots be the attackers.
jade holly
Which chapter is more known for engineering? Iron Warriors or Iron Hands?
arctic talon
Which chapter is more known for engineering? Iron Warriors or Iron Hands?
Hands
normal stream
Iron Warriors are siege engineers
jade holly
Iron Hands are Admech if they were Space Marines
queen laurel
Outsold all of warhammer fantasy
oh yeah Mags and i had a conversation about that once, man
jade holly
queen laurel
That one was a cold can of worms
arctic talon
Lol
I mean
Warhammer fantasy was in a terrible spot
As a tabletop game
For a long time
jade holly
This set?
nocturne crest
Actually, do knights have their own little guards that support them in the fight or is just those admech boys?
queen laurel
As a tabletop game
You think they will fix it on the second go around?
arctic talon
You think they will fix it on the second go around?
Old world is already good
normal stream
Knights are the support troops for Titans, a lot of times
arctic talon
Actually, do knights have their own little guards that support them in the fight...
Knights have household troops yeah
queen laurel
Old world is already good
Aye
arctic talon
But they’re not deployed often
normal stream
Knight household troops don't really feature in TT either
arctic talon
Knights usually fight alongside the IG lol
queen laurel
But they’re not deployed often
How do they compare to your average run-of-the-mill guardsmen
normal stream
That's gonna vary so much depending on the house and on the guardsman
arctic talon
^
arctic talon
It literally made, at least 50% of all of GW’s
That was back in 7e tbf
rose thorn
Best cast scenario for WHFB
arctic talon
But yeah
GW’s profit streams are a lot more diverse now
Well
For stuff they sell
It’s still mostly plastic toys
rose thorn
Worst case scenario for WHFB, it made like 30%? So all of FB made about 10% at most
rose thorn
It’s still mostly plastic toys
Yeah
normal stream
IIRC LOTR made them a decent amount too
arctic talon
LOTR is quite good
rose thorn
According to their yearlys GW isn’t worried about third party minis or 3d printing at all
rose thorn
IIRC LOTR made them a decent amount too
Apparently it saved the company a while back
scenic bolt
as bad as people had ragged on 1e sigmar it ended up being very profitable compared to old whfb
rose thorn
as bad as people had ragged on 1e sigmar it ended up being very profitable compa...
1.5e was profitable yeah
1e was one of the worst tabletop games ever made
scenic bolt
According to their yearlys GW isn’t worried about third party minis or 3d printi...
I mean yea, in one of their quarterlies they mentioned they are like 90% of all miniature sales globally, and thats not just wargaming minis
rose thorn
And it had literally no new minis
rose thorn
Ohh
arctic talon
arctic talon
Yeah
rose thorn
What ever that box is called
arctic talon
That box is still at my lgs btw
rose thorn
Technically all the models in that have rules 
Still
Except the named khrone character
queen laurel
Thunder and blood
Oh yeah i forgot to ask how many times can you reforge a storm git before they lose their minds or turn into a robot
arctic talon
Except the named khrone character
Didn’t he get genericized
rose thorn
Didn’t he get genericized
He was both named and genetic for a while
But officially became genetic after he died
Oh and his besties died too
And became generic
rose thorn
And hammerhan accidentally got like 3 stormcast characters perms killed
arctic talon
It’s amazing how GW
queen laurel
Jokes aside 1e stormcast were atrocious
I heard the personalities of those guys were
arctic talon
Actually managed to get their shit together
queen laurel
Non-existent
rose thorn
Actually managed to get their shit together
*they fired the entire team that carried over from WHFB I’m pretty sure
rose thorn
And brought in a new team
queen laurel
Ever heard of too much detail
Yeah Belisarius Cawl
arctic talon
No
Cawl isn’t too much detail
All his stuff
Is separated well
Behold
1e stormcast
normal stream
Most people forget that the best way to paint complex minis is before assembly.
queen laurel
I can see why
arctic talon
So stuff can stand out
arctic talon
Luckily the extermis and vanguard from 2 and 2.5 still hold up
They look good imo
rose thorn
Yee
arctic talon
GW nailed the 2e stormcast
rose thorn
LC all do them looked kinda bad
rose thorn
LMAO YEAH
arctic talon
1e stormcast are not painter friendly
queen laurel
The 1e stormcast
Paint 500 first edition stormcast or reason with the emperor
arctic talon
At all
rose thorn
The golder the model the worst it is
arctic talon
Paint 500 first edition stormcast or reason with the emperor
I’ll just prime them gold then dry brush
Lol
Fuck edge highlighting 1e stormcast
That’s a terrible idea
red anvil
rose thorn
Like usual
arctic talon
I wonder what the new sylvaneth mini is gona be
rose thorn
Get praying
I will pray but we got the middest pray lore
arctic talon
queen laurel
I wonder what the new sylvaneth mini is gona be
Durthu
I want to see the sword swinging tree
But i'm pretty sure he got turned into a generic guy right
arctic talon
It’s a generic sylvaneth now yeah
Giant tree with giant sword
The woodiest of wood elves
rose thorn
I wonder what the new sylvaneth mini is gona be
I want: wood elves
We will probably get more tree ghosts
rose thorn
It’s a generic sylvaneth now yeah
Technically yes and no
arctic talon
I want: wood elves
We will probably get more tree ghosts
Like lady of the vine styled?
rose thorn
Her soul got fragmented
arctic talon
I like her a lot
rose thorn
Like lady of the vine styled?
I love her too, but I meant the uh
arctic talon
Regarding the lady of the vines
rose thorn
Deer elves
rose thorn
Yeah
rose thorn
Kurnothi are the same things as wanderers now
arctic talon
Wanderers are prolly gona go into cities though
rose thorn
According to the COS battletomb
arctic talon
Not sylvaneth
arctic talon
According to the COS battletomb
Neat
rose thorn
I love them, I’m too poor to get them
rose thorn
I made my own city 
queen laurel
But their play style
Is it extremely defensive and using your units to deconstruct the enemy?
rose thorn
I’m waiting for their 4e drops
rose thorn
But their play style
Which one?
arctic talon
Is it extremely defensive and using your units to deconstruct the enemy?
They’re pretty defensive
The uh
Gun line one
Lol
rose thorn
OH is it the stupid hold still rule thing
rose thorn
Aka the one that’s imo pushed the most
Oh don’t worry they are all garbage now
rose thorn
Let me find a torm list
queen laurel
I'm just going to have to wait a long while until i can probably get the fourth edition Orruk warclans battletome in a digital version
If they announce it because i will probably want It immediately
arctic talon
Something is up with GW’s book printing
AoS is only getting a single battletome after the edition launch ones
queen laurel
AoS is only getting a single battletome after the edition launch ones
Do they usually do multiple factions?
queen laurel
I’d have expected 2 more tomes
Skaven came out first right
arctic talon
Skaven and stormcast are the edition launch ones ye
rose thorn
How do they even play this edition
Dwarves and wizards
rose thorn
Yeah
rose thorn
Dwarves are really good, and they have baller spells
A lot of people are still running their 3rd edition gun spam lists
With twice as many guns
queen laurel
Dwarves and wizards
So like the race that has natural ability of deflecting magic
Plays with the wizards
rose thorn
Looks like it’s mainly elf wizards
queen laurel
Looks like it’s mainly elf wizards
Tell me your trolling right now
Because if not that is the funniest thing i have ever heard
arctic talon
Because if not that is the funniest thing i have ever heard
This may surprise you but AoS dwarves and elves are less racist then warhammer fantasy ones
Actually
That’s not exactly true
But the ones in the cities of sigmar are
Lol
arctic talon
LOL
rose thorn
3 from the dark sorcery , which is Just pick an enemy unit a d3 2+ deal that much damage
At the end of any round
arctic talon
Thousand sons refrence
arctic talon
queen laurel
You can get +3 to spells instantly if you are lucky
Yeah but to be the funniest spell will still be foot of Gork
Nice models you got there but
It will be so funny if i just keep stepping on it
rose thorn
Side note I hope seraphon get endless spells
queen laurel
Side note I hope seraphon get endless spells
You mean the army that has psychic frogs that can move mountains don't have endless spells
rose thorn
Also holy shit city spells are built different
rose thorn
You mean the army that has psychic frogs that can move mountains don't have endl...
Yeah
arctic talon
Competitive tabletop adjacent 40k and AoS memes are funny as shit
rose thorn
+1 dice to charge for a friendly unit
arctic talon
Literal meth
rose thorn
Imma save this I love this
arctic talon
It’s so good right
rose thorn
I wanna see a version of this with Nagash and his ability
queen laurel
Oh i just realized
It's a spell that you can cast on a shooting phase
Which is usually for the range units
rose thorn
arctic talon
I wanna see a version of this with Nagash and his ability
Should it be nagash and Arkhan
Putting their hand on like
normal stream
I find it funny that WFB went the way of AoS but they still give the WFB license out to Total War
rose thorn
Should it be nagash and Arkhan
Yeha but hand of dust
On like any of the god characters
arctic talon
I find it funny that WFB went the way of AoS but they still give the WFB license...
Tbf
Their logic was it would let them earn more money off of a dead setting + game
normal stream
Although, I wonder if they're going to bring back WFB as an alternative Specialist Games like 30k
arctic talon
It did
rose thorn
I find it funny that WFB went the way of AoS but they still give the WFB license...
They made the contract before the game did a death dive
normal stream
They made the contract before the game did a death dive
Oh, TIL
normal stream
The old world
Isn't The Old World == WFB?
rose thorn
Same with vermintide
normal stream
Or is there a nuance I'm missing?
rose thorn
Warhammer fantasy battles is old world
normal stream
Yeah, okay, that's what I thought too
queen laurel
Yeah the universe is just called old world
The table top is fantasy battles
I think i am not mixing up my knowledge here
normal stream
Ugh, I'm just going to continue calling it all WFB (technically not wrong)
rose thorn
Old world game is just, greedy. I don’t blame the team GW did give them the shaft in terms of resources
I just hate nostalgia hate
Bate*
Bait?
Bait
queen laurel
Ugh, I'm just going to continue calling it all WFB (technically not wrong)
Yeah they basically resurrected it off the dead and hey they even gave the orcs and Goblins new models
rose thorn
Yeah they basically resurrected it off the dead and hey they even gave the orcs ...
Can’t wait to use these for AOS
arctic talon
Isn't The Old World == WFB?
It’s what the game is called specifically since the era is different from whfb
normal stream
I mean, all of 30k is nostalgia bait It even still uses a mostly-similar rules system to earlier editions of 40k
normal stream
Yeah, but a lot of classic throwbacks. All the beakies for days.
normal stream
And vibe-wise, even still plays like the "good old days" of 3.5ed and 4th ed.
rose thorn
“So, there is this guy named horus, he did a heresy”
rose thorn
And vibe-wise, even still plays like the "good old days" of 3.5ed and 4th ed.
Meh
There’s loads of new stuff
normal stream
Yeah, I don't have any opinions on it either way - hence the quotes
But I know that lots of people like to pine for the days of 3.5ed and 4th ed
arctic talon
Iirc it’s a fusion of 3e and some parts of 6e lol
rose thorn
You don’t use the same models from 3.5 to play HH tho
You don’t use 135 dollar metal models
normal stream
I don't think anyone had nostalgia for the pewter models
I was allergic to prolonged exposure to that shit
rose thorn
Trying to think of ideas for making a custom Soulblight dynasty
Maybe like
Blood tree sap?
In than
queen laurel
Trying to think of ideas for making a custom Soulblight dynasty
Put them in Ghur
rose thorn
Ghyan
rose thorn
Put them in Ghur
I have too many things in Ghur
queen laurel
I have too many things in Ghur
i'm kidding kidding i already know how much you love the destruction factions
but a Ghyrian i soulblight dynasty that corrupts the realms magic to grow blood trees sounds fun
rose thorn
i'm kidding kidding i already know how much you love the destruction factions
...
I just need to think why grow blood trees instead of normal trees
queen laurel
I just need to think why grow blood trees instead of normal trees
How about the sap can be modeled into specialized blood gems that allow them to use stronger vampire magic
queen laurel
By Raszard
You know the artist of this is in this chat right
outer wave
Check #darktide-fan-art since they post there pretty frequently
queen laurel
Yeah Giant dad is their username
rose thorn
How about the sap can be modeled into specialized blood gems that allow them to ...
It feeds them longer and makes them more magical but is alot more time consuming? (Also vegan vampires)
queen laurel
It feeds them longer and makes them more magical but is alot more time consuming...
Yeah that can work
queen laurel
Maybe the blood trees come from a parasitic plant
Yeah it's a type of plant that's found on like Shyish
Or something
rose thorn
Yeah it's a type of plant that's found on like Shyish
Maybe it went extinct in shyish but these vampires cultivated it in Ghyran
queen laurel
Maybe it went extinct in shyish but these vampires cultivated it in Ghyran
Yeah and while it feeds them it also allows them to easily barter with other vampires and recruit them to their cause because they can constantly feed them
And as fertilizer they use humans or something
rose thorn
I wanna write a custom Skelton kingdom
So maybe the vegan blood makes thier necrotic powers weaker
Because ghyran magics
queen laurel
Yeah and maybe they're kinder to people
rose thorn
So they made a deal with the skeleton kingdom
queen laurel
Because they don't always have to drink one
rose thorn
Yeah and maybe they're kinder to people
Maybe
Or maybe they have to feed corpses to the blood trees?
queen laurel
Or maybe they have to feed corpses to the blood trees?
That's why i said fertilizer
queen laurel
I didn’t see that
Yeah it can work with like monsters but to get high quality ones maybe they need like sapient species like a dwarf or an elf
Or humans
rose thorn
True
Obvi the Sylvaneth hate them because vampire parasite
They hate the newly introduced mass amounts of destruction because kragnos
Maybe cities don’t like them because it’s another plant they have to burn away. And this one feeds off humans
queen laurel
Maybe cities don’t like them because it’s *another* plant they have to burn awa...
Yeah and the kidnappe that's needed to replace the fertilizer people
rose thorn
Ight here’s the idea, they live in Ghyran and cultivate a parasitic plant that makes corpses into magic blood tree sap. This vegan blood enhances their magical abilities but weaken their necrotic powers so they made a deal with a death rattle kingdom and necromancer to make up for it. The main goal of this entire thing is because A; mess with Nagash, B; the parasitic plant went extinct in Shyish but it is thriving in Ghyran.
queen laurel
Ight here’s the idea, they live in Ghyran and cultivate a parasitic plant that m...
Yeah that's pretty good
rose thorn
Maybe they have an ancient culture around these parasitic plants, and had to move when it went extinct
Also green armor would look SOOO GOOD
queen laurel
Maybe they have an ancient culture around these parasitic plants, and had to mov...
Yeah maybe they truly value beauty as like one of their attachments or something
rose thorn
Yee
Maybe the parasitic flowers look beautiful All year round and smell amazing to vampires, to everyone else they look horrifying and smell terrible
queen laurel
Maybe the parasitic flowers look beautiful All year round and smell amazing to v...
Oh yeah that's that is a good one
rose thorn
“Ah yes the Bloovera Orobanche, a beautiful flower that smells like the finest roses”
“Them fucking gouged-eye flowers smell like a corpse and keep killing our crops”
Green armor with red helmets?
queen laurel
“Ah yes the Bloovera Orobanche, a beautiful flower that smells like the finest r...
Oh yeah these are good
rose thorn
Maybe it’s a thorny blooming vine plant
That tries to attract animals cut them
So it can feed on it’s blood
queen laurel
So it can feed on it’s blood
Yeah and and it's magical so other alchemist or people want it
So they also have to defend it
queen laurel
Yes
rose thorn
Farmers be farming and then feel a sharp pain, some fuck ass tiny vine plant grew all over the crop and now their hand is just gushing blood
It just obliterated his glove
The death rattle kingdom maybe in life were master farmers
Or gardeners
queen laurel
Farmers be farming and then feel a sharp pain, some fuck ass tiny vine plant gre...
Yep that's it that's the spot
rose thorn
So taking care of these flowers is like practicing their ancient trade
Like zen garden shit
Necromancer are just merc maxing, using the blood drained corpses left by the parasitic plant to make zombie hordes
queen laurel
Necromancer are just merc maxing, using the blood drained corpses left by the pa...
Do plants vs zombies in this b****
inland ingot
<@564925483276435476> nice art mate
Thank you :3
opaque coyote
Do plants vs zombies in this b****
Plants Vs Zombies but it's Catachan
"Oh no, an invasion is coming to you.
You, as the planet itself, must guard itself using the deadly varieties of animals and plants that Catachan has!"
...
Actually that sounds fun
Also I genuinely think Catachan itself is alive somehow.
Like it still murders humans, to the point where over half of the children don't reach teenagehood, but the original people stuck there somehow managed to make an entire colony and population. Despite the fact that literally everything is deadly.
Meanwhile the attempted Chaos invasion immediately got fucking shredded until there's nothing left. The fucking Daemons, LITERALLY GOT CONSUMED. Along with attempted Tyranid invasions as well
The jungle also grows back fast and intentionally attacks buildings
I believe that Catachan is basically one giant, sentient organism because of this.
And that the only reason why it hasn't start doing shit like idk
Consuming planets to increase it's mass like fucking Unicron
Is because it just
Doesn't want to
It is content to remain the deadly jungle world that it is
Let us hope that nobody pisses Catachan off enough to have it spread
normal stream
Also I genuinely think Catachan itself is alive somehow.
Like it still murders...
One of the old rumors is that Catachan is actually a tyranid world, or offspring of 'nids disconnected from the hive mind
queen laurel
One of the old rumors is that Catachan is actually a tyranid world, or offspring...
In my opinion that rumor is rather quite boring to be honest i just want it to be its own thing
Not every deadly creature in the universe need to be related to the insect dinosaurs
normal stream
eh
misty brook
Just a question. Would the Mechanicus steal a mech suit and study it from a human who is from a distant planet from where they're the only ones who can pilot it like those Tau Battlesuits or just destroy it outright, mistaking the human pilot and the suit as one of the Abominable Intelligent Men of Iron?
celest dome
Both could happen, depend on the story the writer want to do
opaque coyote
In my opinion that rumor is rather quite boring to be honest i just want it to b...
I kinda imagined that Catachan experienced a Tyranid invasion
And just sort of
Absorbed them into itself
Like
"Hey you look deadly."
"Mine now."
snips off connection to the Hivemind
thorn mesa
Hear me out guys
i just came up with the best stupid lore for ogryn
he takes his big rump and he shits from top of a tree and it lands into your hands, what would you do
opaque coyote
he takes his big rump and he shits from top of a tree and it lands into your han...
Like perfectly into my hands?
Firstly
Store it in a box
Tape the lid of the container down also to prevent any smell from coming in or out
Step two
Wash my hands thoroughly
zenith stump
Personally, I'd eat it.
thorn mesa
personally...as long the damage is 80% and the radius is 80% im keeping it as a trophy
zenith stump
personally, I'd eat it.
opaque coyote
**personally, I'd eat it.**
Average Nurgle worshipper be like
thorn mesa
Store it in a box
thats a great idea, but hear me out
opaque coyote
Yeah?
thorn mesa
now what happens if this shit drops super fast, breaking your roof and lands in your kitchen while you're tv, specifically corn if you know what im saying
what would you do?
opaque coyote
Die
zenith stump
Personally, I'd eat it.
thorn mesa
peronally, i'd take a rain check
zenith stump
personally, I'd force my neighbours to eat it, in honor of nurgle.
zenith stump
personally, I'd go back to watching my gay furry corn.
thorn mesa
came from the sky, off the top ropes like anedy orten and does a KO on Ogryn
sorry, im so fucked tonight
small grail
sigma nurgle
nocturne crest
Any examples of someone using a body or a body part as a weapon in 40k?
queen laurel
Any examples of someone using a body or a body part as a weapon in 40k?
You mean like Monster Hunter where you harvest their body parts and like make it on armor or something
nocturne crest
You mean like Monster Hunter where you harvest their body parts and like make it...
I was thinking more using someone's arm or leg to hit someone.
queen laurel
I was thinking more using someone's arm or leg to hit someone.
if that's the case then I can't really think of any examples at the top of my head
spring cairn
rose thorn
Why do people keep bitching about the GD entries and act like a single marine won the sword
Literally a marine won second place in the ‘what ever’ category
shadow plover
people like to be pissy about things they don't understand
jade canopy
Hi, I'm new to 40k and it's lore :D
Tyranids are cool and Cosmic horror is my jam :3c
queen laurel
Hi, I'm new to 40k and it's lore :D
aight welcome here's complementary lore website link
queen laurel
I've been actually binge watching lore videos on YouTube
that's good but do verify the lore because misinformation is rather unfortunately common
jade canopy
True, true
I think my favorite factions atm are the Tyranids and the space dwarves
forgot what they're called
crisp heath
Also its a board game that ended up being a bunch of video games, don't act like it's the Bible
jade canopy
I'm a buddhist
crisp heath
Also the Votann have like no lore rn rip
crisp heath
Gang
crisp heath
Tech priests are wife material
jade canopy
but who is husband material for us gay boys? 🤔
crisp heath
Swarm Lord
jade canopy
Swarm Lord?
jade canopy
I feel like I'd just get murdered ngl lmao
queen laurel
jade canopy
I'd say Orgyns are Husband Material ngl
big himbo energy
also, are all the games canon with the on going lore? o - o
queen laurel
also, are all the games canon with the on going lore? o - o
some no some yes
jade canopy
Is Darktide? o-o
crisp heath
Darktide is kind of it's own thing
Also just a heads up 40k lore moves at a pace of a major event every 5 years, if you're lucky
crisp heath
Anyway yeah the Swarmlord is the only male coded creature that has ever been attractive since the formation of the earth
queen laurel
That's so long
and keep this saying constantly to yourself warhammer lore is as wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle
jade canopy
wat
queen laurel
yeah warhammer has a lot of things going for it but it's not deep
crisp heath
People thought the Horus Heresy was really cool and fun so they released 60 books that made it boring
jade canopy
rip
crisp heath
Although tbf Necrons genuinely have a lot going on for them and have been consistently good
jade canopy
I've been more interested in the aspects of 40k that really show off the horror of it's universe
jade canopy
I recently watched a video of The Watcher in The Rain
green loom
Warhammer crime too
jade canopy
or something
crisp heath
If you like tyranids you'll probably also like the Imperial Guard so Ghosts might be better for you
lapis verge
Ngl a crime thriller 40k show in some sus Luxury World would gi kinda hard
jade canopy
also the one with The Skin Man
crisp heath
Ngl a crime thriller 40k show in some sus Luxury World would gi kinda hard
Well I mean GW seems to want Eisenhorn to be the one that makes it to TV
So you'll probably get it... eventually
Once someone makes a deal stick
jade canopy
Isn't Henry Cavil wanting to do media stuff for 40k?
crisp heath
Seems like it's in production hell right now
jade canopy
that's rough
crisp heath
The last news we got on it was Amazon threatening to shelve it
And then radio silence for almost half a year
jade canopy
That tracks for Amazon tbh
lapis verge
Well I mean GW seems to want Eisenhorn to be the one that makes it to TV
A crime thriller but akin to Dr. House?
Except replace House with Eisenhorn?
yes please
lapis verge
Alien: Isolation
Except you're a lowly deckhand on a Battle Barge
green loom
Well
jade canopy
I'd play it
jade canopy
CA?
green loom
Creative assembly
jade canopy
Oooh
crisp heath
Bro the won't even give us a tyranid horror novel
jade canopy
Bro the won't even give us a tyranid horror novel
Missed opportunity tbh
I feel like a well made 40k horror game would do great
crisp heath
I mean is there a shot it won't be Total Warhammer 40k
green loom
I think it's almost guaranteed to not be
Not least because the formula kinda just doesn't work for 40k
I mean
They made isolation and halo wars 2
jade canopy
To be fair, they did also announce an Alien: Isolation sequel too so
queen laurel
Not least because the formula kinda just doesn't work for 40k
99% of battles will just be a shooting match
green loom
So we know they can make some good shit
queen laurel
and the engine will probably collapse