40k-lore-chat

[viral halo]

legit love them in warhammer fantasy

Dark Eldar is prob my biggest 40k army too

[snow fern]

I like the sea elves, the ocean being a faction is like, mainly a Might and Magic type thing, it's cool to see it

[viral halo]

Sea Elves are dope

wish they had a bigger model range

[snow fern]

sucks about the whole, being born without a soul thing

[scenic bolt]

aos has better sculpts theyre not as tied to a 40 year franchise like 40k or fantasy so they can add and do interesting new things

[viral halo]

Yea they're allowed to enjoy things

40k sculpts recently have all been ass

[scenic bolt]

and they are def taking advantage of that freedom

[viral halo]

Like the 40k stuff has been so boring and uninspired lately

AoS is sick and Old World keeps bringing back all the heavy hitters

[storm jungle]

I think one of the best events of this month was 40k fans going nuts over how good the latest Stormcasts model releases were lol

[wintry scarab]

I think some are good.

[scenic bolt]

I will readily admit 1st ed AOS was ass but they course corrected for 2nd ed onwards and its been a feast

[viral halo]

I want the resin warpfire dragon so bad

[arctic talon]

1st ed AoS

[storm jungle]

Absolutely this

[arctic talon]

Was so fucking bad

[storm jungle]

AOS launch was terrible

LMAO

now its like

[arctic talon]

Genuinely no one I know

[viral halo]

Remember mfs were burning their armies lmao

[arctic talon]

Likes 1e AoS minis

Actually that’s a lie

I know someone who likes

The fucking squat stormcast

[viral halo]

I like Vandus Hammerhand or whatever

[storm jungle]

"AoS please, show some mercy, dont release a good model for once!"

AOS:

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-thats-it-gonna-cry-tobey-maguire-are-you-going-to-cry-gif-17698704

[arctic talon]

YOUR WALLET IS MINE
-AoS model designers

[viral halo]

why did evil peter answer his landlord's call with "Shalom" in this movie

[scenic bolt]

every model of every army in aos lately has been immaculate and this is not exaggeration (mostly)

[viral halo]

the skaven stuff looks fantastic

[arctic talon]

We’re going to get a naked dwarf for fyreslayers

[viral halo]

I wish AoS was more popular around me

It's mainly 40k here ofc

[arctic talon]

My place is a mix of 40K and AoS

[wintry scarab]

Speaking of models as well, sucks how most of 40k is just model slop and then things like 30k are getting the coolest things ever 😦

[arctic talon]

Primarily

[scenic bolt]

like my local gaming group has largely ditched 10th ed 40k for aos now

[arctic talon]

10th edition fucking sucks in a lot of ways

[viral halo]

10thed is pretty rough

[arctic talon]

The only thing that keeps me playing

Is because I like 40k as a setting

And I do enjoy talking with people

While playing

[storm jungle]

^

[dusk patrol]

They did what people wanted and it turns out what people wanted wasn’t what they wanted

[storm jungle]

What people wanted

uh

[arctic talon]

I didn’t want this

[storm jungle]

who asked for sanguinary guard not getting wings

💀

[arctic talon]

But I’m sure the people who still don’t play love it

Okay I’m done being a salty bitch

[dusk patrol]

Bah they’ve had like two bad models, I don’t care for them but that’s not the issue

[scenic bolt]

10th ed is just more the same, loads of auras, loads of out of phase action, loads of command point trap cards

[dusk patrol]

The issue is the rules

[wintry scarab]

To bring it back to darktide for a sec. Thats something that i would have no interest in if it wasnt 40k.

[plush mason]

GW put all the good molds into the AOS line

[arctic talon]

There’s barely any auras in 10e

What are you talking about

[scenic bolt]

whereas the new aos was mostly just refining prior ed

[arctic talon]

For stratagems meh

Whatever

I never disliked them

The new system is fine I guess

I like detachments a lot

I like enhancements conceptually

[dusk patrol]

It just needs more depth

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[dusk patrol]

Which ironically the old one had too much of

[arctic talon]

I’m just waiting for 11e

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

Idk, they needed to cut away a lot but

[arctic talon]

They cut away waayyyy too much

[snow fern]

I want another 40k rts, I miss Dawn of War 1

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

This is like going for a fade

But you walk out bald

And your scalp is bleeding

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s just way too much

[scenic bolt]

5th was peak 40k ed

[arctic talon]

Crusade is still good

AoS 4e seems very good

[scenic bolt]

7th alright

[arctic talon]

Same with killteam 3e

7th fucking sucked

By the end of it

Holy shit

[wintry scarab]

I just want to say, i have no clue who this blackshield guy is but this model is so fucking cool.

[arctic talon]

Power creep the edition

[dusk patrol]

That and the lore releases have been disappointing, what we get is largely good but it’s so little and I don’t get why

[arctic talon]

Me watching my opponent have over 3k points

Of free fucking Las cannon razorbacks

[dusk patrol]

Endryd Haar

Former Thunder Warrior turned World Eater turned Blackshield

[snow fern]

Damn, all he needs is a Wyvern

[viral halo]

this model is cool but he's proportioned like a fuckin terminator lol

[dusk patrol]

Cause he’s that size

He’s fucking enormous

[scenic bolt]

horus heresy is alright but it's just imperium wank

[dusk patrol]

It’s ok to just not like something

[storm jungle]

pretty much

but slop makes money

[arctic talon]

I need killteam 3e

[wintry scarab]

The pose is actually cool as well. So many 40k models have shit poses that just look super awkward.

[arctic talon]

In my veins now

GW release them now

[viral halo]

Game called kill team
doesn't have deathwatch kill teams as a kill team

make it make sense

it did in 1e

[dusk patrol]

Like I don’t really care for a lot of the new stormcast models style but that’s all, you can dislike something without it being “wank” or “slop” or whatever lol

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[storm jungle]

I mean its a fine opinion to have.

[viral halo]

here we go

[storm jungle]

You are a space marine fan so you dont like the sentiment and thats fine

but also like

[arctic talon]

I think it’s weird personally

[storm jungle]

its 02:53, i got SM2 open in the background

[arctic talon]

But whatever

[storm jungle]

and im really not in the mood for another semantics debate with Eternal since this is like the same convo every time

so you know

[arctic talon]

1e fucking sucked imo

[viral halo]

it was just tiny 40k yea

[arctic talon]

Ah yes I will take plasma

And more plasma

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

I mean it’s not semantics I’m saying you can dislike something without shitting on it endlessly and making fun of people who do like it

[arctic talon]

And even more plasma

[dusk patrol]

That’s all

[wintry scarab]

Tbf, something like this. This is factually slop. (if you say you like these, i will think lesser of you)

[arctic talon]

The new edition of killlteam is going to be elite hell

[viral halo]

me looking over at my strike force agastus boxes

[arctic talon]

Marines are eating good

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care for it but I don’t care for a lot of releases

[arctic talon]

Because they nerfed plasma

And Overwatch

And there’s only 3 objectives

[dusk patrol]

I’ve seen some good conversions too if those which make them work much better

[arctic talon]

Like holy fucking shit

You did not need to buff elite teams that much lol

[dusk patrol]

There’s also plenty of good models I can focus on instead

[viral halo]

my sm2 dude got me wanting to paint novas

[arctic talon]

I’m kind of annoyed about the plasma nerf

[dusk patrol]

Like I don’t like the Sanguinary Guard and I think they made a lot of mistakes with them but it doesn’t make the whole faction or setting “slop”

[arctic talon]

No more instantly cooking marines

Easily

Then again they buffed melta

[scenic bolt]

its perpetual convo of marines/general imperium gets the love cause it gets the sales

[arctic talon]

It’s a flat 6” always now

So like

mmmmmm instant fucking death

It’s no longer RNG 6

[dusk patrol]

And this is to the benefit of everyone because it pays for all the other stuff, and it’s easy to ignore

Not all of them are gonna be hits

[arctic talon]

Gsc exist entirely because of marine sales tbh

[scenic bolt]

if I were GW and I had a model line pushing 50% of revenue hell yea Id focus dollars on developing it further

[wintry scarab]

Your right shoulder pad has ultramarine symbols on it. Ummm thats not very lore accurate 🤓

[arctic talon]

GSC are genuinely so unpopular

[storm jungle]

game crashed rip

[arctic talon]

That I’m 99% sure

[viral halo]

it don't tho

[arctic talon]

Other factions keep them propped up

And alive

[dusk patrol]

I think AoS has some good models and a lot of overly busy or models which I don’t care for the style and that’s ok

[wintry scarab]

Oh but it do

[viral halo]

that's a laurel

[viral halo]

how is the poder fist

[wintry scarab]

The pin that holds the red string has a ultramarine engraving.

[spring cairn]

it fists

[dusk patrol]

I like the Skaven and Overlords stuff, largely don’t care for the Stormcasts stuff that I’ve seen

[spring cairn]

seems good so far

i play on average

[dusk patrol]

It does it’s job

[spring cairn]

as of now

[dusk patrol]

Pathetic

[spring cairn]

but optimal is thunder hammer

[viral halo]

nuh uh

[scenic bolt]

sm2 needs some balance on the high end esp with a 5th difficulty coming

[storm jungle]

Uh oh

[scenic bolt]

cause the range of useful weapons rapidly diminishes

[storm jungle]

here comes "just get good the combat system is good"

[arctic talon]

Ngl

Half the fucking guns are terrible

[dusk patrol]

I think they need to buff a lot of the bolter weapons

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[wintry scarab]

Oh, im going on the game rn to take a screen shot

[storm jungle]

also yeah lol

[arctic talon]

Most of the guns fucking blow

[storm jungle]

actual TRASH

[arctic talon]

But there’s some that are insane

[viral halo]

I like the guns 😭

[arctic talon]

Bolt rifle with gl

Is fucking nuts

Same with the plasma

[spring cairn]

working on it

[arctic talon]

And the meltas

[spring cairn]

gimmie a few hours

[dusk patrol]

I think the combat system though legit if you can’t do 3-4 is a huge skill issue. I’ve been playing ruthless across multiple classes for a few days now.

It’s not that bad

[viral halo]

heavy bolt rifle fucks

[scenic bolt]

yea I saw a comment that nailed it, sustained damage weapons generally arent good cause ranged damage is so high its better to have high spike damage stuff that you can pop from cover

[arctic talon]

I think the biggest flaw is

You can’t fucking heal properly

[storm jungle]

no

[dusk patrol]

But yes there needs to be adjustments to the weapons and some classes

[wintry scarab]

The meltas are straight up just broken. Literally by far the best guns in the game.

[storm jungle]

I just joined a Substantial match with it as Lvl1 tactical marine, can confirm it fucks

[spring cairn]

the grind to go play max diff gonna take me long tho

[arctic talon]

Plasma gun is my favorite

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

Also match making fixes will help a lot

[scenic bolt]

or things like melta/gl tac having basically infinite ammo while other classes strugglebus

[spring cairn]

need to unlock all perks and weapons

[arctic talon]

Point click boom

Melt their faces off

[storm jungle]

Melta + Infinite ammo box

[viral halo]

it tears stuff up fr I'm moving different in PVP

[storm jungle]

[scenic bolt]

pvp despite some wonk balance at times actually feels nice

[dusk patrol]

Assault is really the only class which needs much help rn

It feels distinctly behind the others

[scenic bolt]

assault also doesnt really come online until like 20+

[spring cairn]

things die fast in pvp

[scenic bolt]

when it actually gets ability regen that matters

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it needs its last perks and that’s a huge grind

[spring cairn]

as opposed to a warrior facetanking 20 bolter rounds in pve

[dusk patrol]

And even then

[wintry scarab]

@viral halo I win

[scenic bolt]

and the jump pack being so low to ground is enough for some melee to hit you

[dusk patrol]

Vanguard feels super good, heavy is a monster, sniper is really solid

Tactical is where it should be too

[scenic bolt]

I get theyre wanting to do it to prevent map breaks but still

[storm jungle]

the cooldown could still be balanced while not being as slow as my grandma's car

[scenic bolt]

same why vanguard cant use grapple on non-enemies like in pvp

[dusk patrol]

Its main issue is its best perks are last

[viral halo]

NOOOOOOOO

[wintry scarab]

Tactical is just hyper ultramarine pilled customization wise. Feels like you have nothing to use because everything is ultramarine themed.

[viral halo]

he's a novamarine so it could have been gifted tho

[wintry scarab]

Its joever

[dusk patrol]

I guess yeah it could be better but the base game in general is largely UM themed

[wintry scarab]

True. Could be like a little respect thing for guilliman or some shit idk.

[spring cairn]

they need to make it so the little dash forward for assault doesn't consume the whole fucking ability bar

[dusk patrol]

It just depends on what they’re gonna add for the dlc

I am concerned with that stuff

[arctic talon]

The tactical stuff is

Idk it feels like sternguard stuff

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[scenic bolt]

I mean your toon is canonically still an ultramarine, like bulwark banner is UM themed still, their warcries are things like courage and honor, or for macragge, or for guilliman

[arctic talon]

So depends on if you think the sternguard stuff is UM pilled

[arctic talon]

Nah I’m a Minotaur who’s stealing their company standard

It’s mine now

[dusk patrol]

Blood Raven joke here

I think the biggest issue rn is match making being weird though

[arctic talon]

It’s pretty terrible

[dusk patrol]

Largely if you get a half decent team stuff isn’t that bad

[regal lantern]

nah i win i have the colletors editon

[spring cairn]

most common chapters i've seen so far, black templars, blood ravens and blood angels

[dusk patrol]

No matter your comp, unless you’re doing all melee guys

[scenic bolt]

love matchmaking into an active game with my selected class already chosen in 2024

[dusk patrol]

That stuff is being worked on to be fixed soon but yeah

[arctic talon]

There’s so many black Templars lol

[dusk patrol]

It’s silly

[spring cairn]

i'm sticking with my BT but

there's so many

[scenic bolt]

Ive seen more white scars than ultramarines

[arctic talon]

I have seen no other Minotaurs

[wintry scarab]

Who?

[arctic talon]

Im alone

How am I supposed to bully the lamenters

Without 999 other marines

[spring cairn]

i've made my tac marine a red scorpion

glad to be the only one

[dusk patrol]

I’m probably gonna do a Victrix Bulwark

Hopefully they let you do different robes soon

Different colors

[wintry scarab]

Literally 90% of players just have fun and make their marines just random colours. It boils my blood. People just having fun and not being lore accurate. Disgusting.

[spring cairn]

i haven't seen much of that yet

[dusk patrol]

This but unironically

[spring cairn]

but i just started

[dusk patrol]

I’ve seen a good amount of faithful enough dudes

[spring cairn]

mostly ppl with their first chapter unlock

[viral halo]

I love PVP

[dusk patrol]

I was a basic bitch and all my dudes are Deathwatch

[spring cairn]

i'm struggling not to get the deathwatch gauntlet on all my classes

[wintry scarab]

I am yet to see a fully lore accurate space marine in multiplayer besides the default ultras.

[spring cairn]

but i'll restrain myself

only the black templar assault gets the deathwatch stuff

[scenic bolt]

the fact that chapter insignia are cordoned off on left pauldron is dump

[dusk patrol]

I was boring and made all my CSM Black Legion

[storm jungle]

Wait i forgot, do you have to get those seperately for each class.

[scenic bolt]

except for like 5 examples

[wintry scarab]

The fact that you cant put any chapter on the right shoulder hurts. I know your pain of only having carcharodons and ravenguard lol.

[spring cairn]

no

[dusk patrol]

No

[spring cairn]

you unlock it once

[storm jungle]

thank fuck

the customisation system is so ass i mix shit up

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s their a big priority apparently to give the option for the other too soon

[spring cairn]

time to fist lictors

[arctic talon]

Ngl I love all the random color schemes

That i see

It’s cute

[wintry scarab]

Good. I just hope they keep changing stuff because rn aspects are rough.

[spring cairn]

i've tried making a decent looking random marine

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it needs some polishing

[wintry scarab]

My blood boils

[spring cairn]

it's not going great so far

the black and blue + bronze is struggling

i don't have many colors yet

[scenic bolt]

getting weapons, talents, and cosmetics is tight budget

[spring cairn]

all to cosmetics

[viral halo]

why not iron hands

[dusk patrol]

Once you start doing Ruthless a bunch it gets much easier

[spring cairn]

all in

[dusk patrol]

The heavy is

[scenic bolt]

iron hands cant even have iron hands

[spring cairn]

you can

[dusk patrol]

They can have a iron hand

The other is covered in armor obviously

[spring cairn]

but not every class

can get prosthesis

[scenic bolt]

I mean paint scheme, similar to crimson fist

[dusk patrol]

Yeah you can do their scheme

The one they give you is wrong largely but a lot are wrong

[storm jungle]

I hate a Crayon Eater in a game today

the black templar guy got so mad

and like wouldnt stfu over discord

[arctic talon]

Guh

Why

[storm jungle]

"you look like a f*g in those colors"

again guys, black templar fans are totally okay

[wintry scarab]

Seen a bloodangel with a white helmet. The guy probably thought he was a veteran. But i wanted to grab him by the throat and tell him how it should be gold and how he should stop having fun.

[outer wave]

What colors were you wearing?

[storm jungle]

NOOOO LEAVE HIM ALONE

[spring cairn]

can he even make it gold ?

i don't think

[outer wave]

Ohh I just reread it

[spring cairn]

you can

[outer wave]

Nvm

[storm jungle]

Uh I was just a basic raptor marine

[outer wave]

Ahhh

[storm jungle]

he also shit-talked me for not having a chapter icon

[dusk patrol]

As it Blood Angels have any veterans left

[storm jungle]

fucking twat lol

[scenic bolt]

now I see why their discord had to put out a statement on bigotry

[dusk patrol]

Smh fake fan

[outer wave]

What a tit

[storm jungle]

Yeah again, SM fans suck lol

[wintry scarab]

NO! NEVER! THEY WILL KNOW HOW NOT LORE ACCURATE THEY ARE!

[storm jungle]

well okay not all of them

just the uhhh

"those ones"

[outer wave]

Of course lmao

[dusk patrol]

Now was that so hard?

[storm jungle]

Yes it was.

[dusk patrol]

Like herding cats

[storm jungle]

my trauma of banning every Space marine pfp user after they say some racist shit is healing

[dusk patrol]

We’ll see

The Vanguard missing an eye but not having a prosthetic annoys me more than it should also

I wanted to do the half helmet but I can’t look at his stupid half blind face

[spring cairn]

i need to play more to get perks and shit to play on ruthless because on the second difficulty it's just speedrunners

[dusk patrol]

You’re in 40k nerd get a bionic eye

[languid meadow]

Woe I summon 3000 of those type of black templar fans upon you

[spring cairn]

can't even appreciate the game

[dusk patrol]

What class are you playing?

[spring cairn]

"dude stop fighting we need to go faster"

[dusk patrol]

Tbh the main hurdle is weapons

[spring cairn]

assault

[dusk patrol]

Class perks can be big too but weapons are huge

[spring cairn]

i want a fencing weapon

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they’re amazing

[spring cairn]

before i go to ruthless

[dusk patrol]

Completely change the game

[wintry scarab]

I see that a lot as well and it kida sucks to see. But hey, hate the game not the player.

[dusk patrol]

Makes dealing with hordes trivial

[storm jungle]

Wait for your iron hands DLC nerd

you will be sitting with me for a year as i wait my raven guard one

💀

[viral halo]

Just pick an UM successor

they're 70 percent of the muhreens anyways

[dusk patrol]

I’m very tired of Decimus’s voice by now I will say

I preferred the heavy

He barely talks

[wintry scarab]

BASTARDS!

[storm jungle]

Just like your boyfriend types

i see how it is

[viral halo]

Straban is cool

[storm jungle]

i agree

[spring cairn]

they all have the personality of a wooden barrel anyway

[viral halo]

Something about the heavy feels off tho

[storm jungle]

I mean some actually do act

[dusk patrol]

Straban is so based

[storm jungle]

the problem is the banter sucks

[dusk patrol]

He’s basically an iron hand

[viral halo]

I feel like the only plasma gun in the game that actually feels like a plasma gun is the plasma pistol

[spring cairn]

i can't tell them apart for now

[viral halo]

the hellblaster seems underpowered

[spring cairn]

they're all interchangeable

[wintry scarab]

I main the reiver and him saying bastards is so god damn annoying. Ive heard it like 50 times now.

[dusk patrol]

He literally just tells everyone to shut up in half the dialogue he has

[storm jungle]

The heavy accent too

i heard the fucking word "bastard" enough from Ser Allister

i dont need more

[arctic talon]

I like the reiver

[storm jungle]

"YE BASTAHD"

[scenic bolt]

heavy sounds like keith david

[arctic talon]

He’s so fucking angry

All the time

[dusk patrol]

“How do you focus so well brother Straban.”

“I eliminate unnecessary conversation.”

“Oh tha- oh….”

[viral halo]

Have you guys seen how fucking OP the sniper can b by the way

[storm jungle]

Me when i talk with women/men.

🗿

[viral halo]

going invisible + flash grenade + bolt carbine

[wintry scarab]

At least its not that stupid fucking British roadman accent lol. I hate that shit so much.

[dusk patrol]

Sniper gets wild

[viral halo]

legit insta kills ppl

[languid meadow]

the las fusil goes so hard

[dusk patrol]

So much free invis

[arctic talon]

Las fusil recharge ammo on kill

[viral halo]

The invis is strong as hell in objective based game modes

[arctic talon]

Is fucking insane

[dusk patrol]

Las fusil goes through hordes gets free ammo

[viral halo]

but if your team has two snipers you are losing

[arctic talon]

Nah

[storm jungle]

Sniper half the time for me is

Entire team is down
"Oh boy its my turn"

[arctic talon]

Just play with an smg

In pvp

Lol

Fuck the rifles

Be a rat

Hide around objectives

[viral halo]

Elite is correct

it's OP af

[dusk patrol]

Snipers in PvP suck if they’re on your team and do jack shit

[viral halo]

I had my best game ln in PVP (18 captures, 17 kills)

[arctic talon]

I love jump scaring heavy players and strapping a krak to them

Lol

[viral halo]

I was going nuts

[storm jungle]

Im getting TF2 ptsd reading this

[dusk patrol]

But become fucking Carlos Hathcock on the other team

[arctic talon]

It’s so fucking funny

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-waiting-piss-gif-27404794

[arctic talon]

Just uncloaking

Slapping a bomb on them

And running

[viral halo]

I faced the most toxic enemy team comp yesterday

[arctic talon]

I am alpharius

[viral halo]

2 heavies who set up intersecting fields of fire

was torture

[arctic talon]

Heavy is gross

[spring cairn]

is there a class limit in pvp ?

[languid meadow]

yes

[scenic bolt]

2 per

[arctic talon]

2 of each max

[viral halo]

2 per

[spring cairn]

even 2

[dusk patrol]

Why does the enemy team always manage to coordinate so well while my team won’t stick with eachother at all?!

[arctic talon]

I do not want to play against 6 fucking heavies

[spring cairn]

better than pve

[dusk patrol]

Like jfc

[arctic talon]

Holy shit

[spring cairn]

let me play my class

fuck off

[viral halo]

I just can't wait to get home and kill some traitors

[arctic talon]

If I have to play into 2 heavies it’s already misery

[languid meadow]

2 assaults with thammers with good bulwarks makes pvp so god damn annoying

[scenic bolt]

heavy with mm is gg

[viral halo]

Playing against two heavies is like getting your balls crushed by the ball crushing machine

[arctic talon]

Heavy with heavy bolter or multi melta

Is agony

[scenic bolt]

vanguard is feast or famine

[arctic talon]

Vanguard is team reliant

[scenic bolt]

if the team is coordinate free stun free kill

[wintry scarab]

Ive only played as the bladeguard on pvp so far and god damn heavies are my bane. I have no clue how to deal with them.

[scenic bolt]

if not then not

[arctic talon]

You need a team to capitalize on your game

[arctic talon]

Just block

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

And back away

You’re not winning by running at them imo

[dusk patrol]

Yeah if you’re bulwark

[arctic talon]

Heavies counter is vanguard or assault

[dusk patrol]

You basically hard counter heavies

[arctic talon]

Or grenades

You need to play smart

If it’s a short distance go for it

But if you need to sprint a long distance don’t try it

[scenic bolt]

my favorite vanguard trick is throw a nade at a heavy, grapple stun them before they react with shield and boom free nade kill

[dusk patrol]

What Elite is saying is stop playing like a dumbass

[arctic talon]

LOL

I genuinely love sniper so much

For the cloak and smg

[dusk patrol]

It is funny how solid the pistols are

[scenic bolt]

tac if they remember they can grab double krak can be cancer

[arctic talon]

Tac is just

John warhammer

[wintry scarab]

Really? Most of the time when i go for melee they just sit and out dps me with their bolter while im swinging.

[languid meadow]

The heavy bolt pistol is great

Highly recommend people give it a try

[dusk patrol]

Unironically wait for them to overheat

Also play with your team

[arctic talon]

Yeah bulwark is team reliant

You aren’t the hero who runs in

Leave that for the suicidal vanguard and assaults

[wintry scarab]

Oh. Tbf ive only played 3 of the six classes and only one in pvp so that probably explains a lot then lol.

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it helps to try each

[wintry scarab]

Had no clue it overheated

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it does it pretty fast too

[arctic talon]

Heavy is a menace with help

[dusk patrol]

It also has a windup

[arctic talon]

Without help they’re uh

Less so

[dusk patrol]

So if they’re in the full wind up they’ll melt you

But if they have to spin it up you can get them

[wintry scarab]

Wait actually thats a lie. I think they act the same in the campaign

[dusk patrol]

Also roll around them if you can

[wintry scarab]

Does the bladeguard shield have infinite durability?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Lol

[wintry scarab]

Oh

[dusk patrol]

If it doesn’t it’s super high

[arctic talon]

You’re fucking invincible

[wintry scarab]

It felt like it didnt.

[arctic talon]

I’ve survived 2 heavy bolter dudes unloading on me

Just holding block

[scenic bolt]

you can be outangled

[dusk patrol]

I’ve absorbed some wild amounts of damage

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[wintry scarab]

I guess i just should have used the shield more. I also forgot that there is a shield bash.

[arctic talon]

Ngl

[scenic bolt]

bash isnt that good in pvp

[arctic talon]

I love the traitor voicelines

In pvp

[wintry scarab]

I back that. I had a grin on my face hearing them talk their stuff

My wish is that later down the line we get chaos operations

[arctic talon]

It would be funny

Also ngl im 100% certain the chaos side in pvp is some black legion warband lol

[wintry scarab]

Also a little thing that just came to my mind. All the dreadnoughts have "Valius" on their chests. Thats supposed to be their name right?

[arctic talon]

Yeah that’s just a reused asset thing

[storm jungle]

Oh lmao

Bro i thought they all had unique names after i saw the Valius thing

[wintry scarab]

😦 That bothers me more than it should

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Im autistic as hell so same

[arctic talon]

It is lame

I just assume the dude we meet at the end is valius

[outer wave]

Uh oh, someone needs their pacifier....

[wintry scarab]

Isnt valius the multiplayer guy as well?

The normal marine? I forgot the class name

Tactical

[outer wave]

Tacticus

Idk

[wintry scarab]

Tacticus is the armour im pretty sure.

idk

[outer wave]

Heavius

Assaultus

Vanguardus

Sniperus

[opaque coyote]

insert baby mario crying here

[wintry scarab]

Last thing i want to say is the snipers name is pronounced funny. I thought Scipius was pronounced without the C but you pronounce it. Sounds goofy as hell but i like it.

[opaque coyote]

Gayius

[outer wave]

Homosexualius

[opaque coyote]

Bro imagine going to the doctor and they say

[arctic talon]

Brother skibidi

[opaque coyote]

"Sir, you have Flius. Sign this piece of parchment from the Adminstratum."

[arctic talon]

I heard i once

I can never unhear it

Please kill me

[opaque coyote]

This implies there is just a brother simply named "Toilet"

[wintry scarab]

Im crying. That caught me offguard

[storm jungle]

What in tarnation

also

"stupid aos chaos marine armor"

THATS LITERALLY HOW CHAOS WARRIORS ALWAYS LOOKED

😭

[outer wave]

I saw it on r/totalwar

Apparently someone isnt happy about the LH choices

[storm jungle]

AOS fans when you ask them why they dont like WHF fans

one day this tribalism will end....

[viral halo]

Warhammer fantasy fans? Where were they when their game was dying?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh wishing for the setting to implode im pretty sure lol

https://tenor.com/view/batman-gone-batfleck-best-batman-ben-affleck-gif-13610907

batman help me out

[languid meadow]

They got CA to fix their game ( I can't wait for skulltaker he looks great )

[arctic talon]

Playing the game still

[storm jungle]

LOL

i legit wonder like

[arctic talon]

Also I don’t get the whole

Chaos warriors csm thing

[storm jungle]

what alternate reality would be if Vermintide or Total Warhammer never got made.

[arctic talon]

Because it’s the other way around

Where like

Csm and SM are based on chaos warriors

Lol

[storm jungle]

yep lol

[outer wave]

Im pretty sure 40k/AoS would be less popular and WHF would be completely forgotten

[languid meadow]

Fantasy walked so 40k could urn

[snow fern]

skulltaker is end times no?

[storm jungle]

damn thats dark

[arctic talon]

He is

He’s 40K

Technically lol

For some extra cursed lore

[storm jungle]

Wait what

[snow fern]

so does that mean end times units?

[languid meadow]

All daemons are both fantasy/AoS and 40k

[arctic talon]

Skulltaker was first introduced in a 40K book

[paper haven]

Ah yes, Skulltaker

[storm jungle]

OH ITS A DAEMON

[languid meadow]

or most of them

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

bro he looks and sounds so generic

i legit forgot

LOL

[arctic talon]

He is generic

He takes skulls

[paper haven]

Basically the only fantasy story I've read

[outer wave]

He is very generic

[arctic talon]

He’s boring as shit

Lol

[snow fern]

Most of khorne is generic

[arctic talon]

But he led a warband of csm

[paper haven]

What does he do?
Take skulls

[arctic talon]

In his first appearance

[outer wave]

Could've been called like The Bounty Hunter or something else

[paper haven]

Is he good at it? You bet.

[languid meadow]

he has a cape of skulls

[arctic talon]

In some of the greatest chaos wank ever

[winter vessel]

What’s the one CSM that has like 8 souls in one body?

[arctic talon]

He’s called that because he’s single handidly

Killed a bio titan

[snow fern]

Is that a shield made outa magma?

[storm jungle]

Minus like only a handful all are in both settings yeah. Some got edited backstories tho

Like in Fantasy belakor is a lot more grounded

In 40k hes some unknown being that ruled over multiple kingdoms/empires before becoming a daemon prince etc

[arctic talon]

And took its skull

[snow fern]

That's neat

[storm jungle]

Eightbound

its a world eaters unit

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s molten metal

[storm jungle]

a collectiong of bloodbangers

[arctic talon]

Dripping constsntly

[languid meadow]

I much prefer the fantasy version of belakor ngl

[winter vessel]

Gotta be crazy as hell, the 8 bound

[languid meadow]

but I wont lie is 40k model is really good

[storm jungle]

Fantasy works because its more simple

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1266429364640157838/eightbound_incident_by_elizaveta_bikuin_dfotg5d-fullview.jpg?ex=66e31441&is=66e1c2c1&hm=38dc84267a658891e386afbdd93bb8c579ae3e6990a7668e6c59a2e89e8c8705&

[storm jungle]

LMAO thanks

[winter vessel]

I was gonna compare it to 8 high school jocks sharing a small apartment

[outer wave]

And he came out... a stronger man, nothing wrong with this!

[arctic talon]

That’s the case for exalted eightbound

For normal ones

[languid meadow]

but yeah Im excited for the ogre rework and the mercenary mecahnic they're doing (whos name I can't say)

[arctic talon]

The poor world eater is not in control

[storm jungle]

But also yeah the daemons that get transferred over to 40k from Fantasy suffer a lot from "well we dont know what to do with their backstory"

Like look at Ku'gath's wikipage in 40k compared to Fantasy lol

[arctic talon]

Bro is getting passed around like a bong

Lol

[arctic talon]

Lu Bu

It’s literally Lu Bu

From 3 kingdoms

In the funny gamemode

[languid meadow]

Ngl 3 kingdoms and troy is like the only TW games I did not play

even though I own them on epic

[arctic talon]

3 kingdoms is fun if you like the like

“History” of the era

3 kingdoms is a total nightmare historically for researchers

There’s not a ton of documentation from the era

[snow fern]

Still kinda hoping for a Total Warhammer 40000, you think they'd do it?

[arctic talon]

And there’s even less accurate documentation

[arctic talon]

Prolly not

Company of heros 40K

And I’d soy

[snow fern]

that'd be cool too

[languid meadow]

I love chinese history (it's insane in every era)

[green loom]

Literally just dawn of war

[winter vessel]

Having played the other CoH games, that would be nice. Control a guardsman company but not a scale like dawn of war

[arctic talon]

Lu bu killing 3000 guys on his own is accurate

[crystal forum]

i only recently learned that china has pretty much always had the highest population in the world which is kinda insane

[snow fern]

China is very interesting to read about, if you got like years of your life to spend, and can read traditional chinese

[arctic talon]

Rice rice rice

[green loom]

Large, very fertile land

[snow fern]

I fucking love rice

If it wasn't 8pm I'd make a risotto

[arctic talon]

Simplified Chinese L, traditional Chinese W

[languid meadow]

Im gonna be basic but I really want Thanquol and stormfiends and another empire game

[crystal forum]

but like tropical weather is anathema to me

[arctic talon]

Simplified is so ugly

And lame

[winter vessel]

I took a class once in the simplified Chinese language, not traditional.

[arctic talon]

Lol

[winter vessel]

Teacher said it would be too hard and take too much time

[crystal forum]

pidgin is based because the name is funny

[snow fern]

Simplified is there so the 90 plus different subcultures in China can communicate with each other

[winter vessel]

Pinyin

[arctic talon]

Traditonal Chinese works fine imo

Most dialects use the same written form

[crystal forum]

han, han, han, han, han, cantonese, han

[arctic talon]

Simplified is just ugly and easier to learn

Well

[winter vessel]

I’ve kinda forgotten the meaning of the words. I used to have the barebones ability of having a conversation in Chinese.

[arctic talon]

It’s not even easier imo

It’s easier to write

Words lose meaning

You’re missing symbols

[crystal forum]

i wanna learn russian

[arctic talon]

That go together

[snow fern]

Searching up how many languages are there in china is making my head hurt

[crystal forum]

but i dont have time

[winter vessel]

But I know how to pronounce it correctly

[crystal forum]

i wanna learn so many things

[languid meadow]

Russian is.... interesting to learn

[snow fern]

I've wanted to learn Russian since every russian I know says Metro is better in Russian

[arctic talon]

According to the CCP, one

Glory to xijiping

[winter vessel]

I’ve kinda gone from different languages in my life. German, Chinese and now Spanish. 1st and 3rd I can go back to and get better

[crystal forum]

russian classical literature always fascinated me

[snow fern]

but Russia also has like, some of the most famous literary pieces in human history, seems a nice language to learn

[crystal forum]

and i wanna learn it

[winter vessel]

Yet I still couldn’t grasp my people’s language of Tagalog very well

[arctic talon]

Learn Chinese so you can listen to cooks swear in mandarin

[snow fern]

Traditional/Simplified Chinese is just a useful language to know, and Mandarin, the main spoken language

[arctic talon]

Or Cantonese

Lol

[snow fern]

Cantonese if you want to get muggd in Hong Kong

[arctic talon]

Written Chinese is the glue binding all the languages together

Lol

[crystal forum]

mandarin should be taught in north american instead of spanish that's my hot take

[arctic talon]

Fun fact

English is a mandatory class

In China

You must learn it

[snow fern]

Honestly both, cause like, we got a huge Spanish pop, and Chinese is just a damn useful language to know

Trade languages be like that

[arctic talon]

My school offered mandarin and Spanish

[winter vessel]

I’ve gotten into the Japanese language, mainly used the hiragana writing system

[arctic talon]

Also French

[languid meadow]

makes sense since it's the language of international business iirc

[arctic talon]

I’m near illiterate in Japanese

[crystal forum]

if i were to choose only one to cram into a kid's head it would be mandarin for the future

[arctic talon]

I can speak it properly though

Lol

[snow fern]

Yah if it was either or, definently learn Chinese

[arctic talon]

I can read some restraunt menus

Badly

[winter vessel]

I can at least know how to introduce myself, greet, say thanks, and tell ‘em “don’t worry” in Japanese

[crystal forum]

if i get kids one day im definitely showing them tons of languages since i can tell from personal experience that it's crazy easy for kids to learn that

i learned english just by being near it

[snow fern]

kids learn languages ezpz, I wish I had any form of language classes in elementary

[languid meadow]

Who up being forced to learn a language and it not sticking, I forced to learn french since I went to a bilingual school and non of took

[snow fern]

other than english I guess

[crystal forum]

part of me hates that the longer i wait to learn a language the harder it'll become statistically

[winter vessel]

Putting myself out there, I’m practicing to write fictional alphabet letters from sci fi media like Star Wars. Galactic Basic, Mando’a.

Gotten good at it

[snow fern]

Many of those language teaching apps are free or low cost, but ideally you get a native teacher

And avoid the crap using Gen AI like Duolingo

[green loom]

My English came from cartoon network

[crystal forum]

now i have french and english both fighting together in my brain for dominance and it sucks

[languid meadow]

Fictional languages are sometimes easier to learn than actual ones which I guess is down to their writers and creators

[crystal forum]

i didnt know duolingo used AI

[snow fern]

Are you from Quebec?

[crystal forum]

yes

[snow fern]

recent change of there's, layed off a bunch of staff too if I recall

[crystal forum]

i spent some years in the US too

so i literally have two native languages

[green loom]

In theory my mother tongue is Hungarian but I don't even use it for thoughts anymore

[arctic talon]

English consumes all

[snow fern]

French Creole is so odd to me, only because I've had a little bit of French exposure

[crystal forum]

it's not even comprehensible to me

[arctic talon]

Some English Creole is incomprehensible

[green loom]

Alas bad experiences make me not want to speak it much

[snow fern]

I guess I'm glad I got no family in Louisiana

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/gambit-channing-tatum-wooimmamake-woo-wooimmamakeaname-gif-689747768459140328

[snow fern]

Be hard to converse

[crystal forum]

haitians here speak french french

[arctic talon]

Gambit in the new movie

[crystal forum]

i've heard some creole but only in florida

[arctic talon]

Is genuinely not even the thickest accent I’ve heard

[snow fern]

WE got jamacians here, they uh, they speak english I believe, but with a very thick accent

They make great baked chicken

[arctic talon]

Ngl

I love different accents

In languages

They’re so fun

[green loom]

I want chicken now

[green loom]

Me rocking up with my offputtingly neutral accent

[crystal forum]

their patties holy shit

how do they make food so good

[snow fern]

I get the hype for Jerk seasoning too, I was so mad when the local grocer stopped selling it

[crystal forum]

i like guessing people's accents

[arctic talon]

Spices

[languid meadow]

Interacting with other groups is always a treat, there is a bunch of Ukrainians here and they've been a treat being around while growing up

[snow fern]

I love seasoning

I love making food taste better with little green leaves and salt

cooking is fun

[languid meadow]

Salt is the best thing the earth as created

[arctic talon]

Chairman Mao red braised pork is

Horrifying

Normal red braised pork has a lot of spices in it

Mao’s uh

It’s just soy sauce

And more soy sauce

And garlic

[crystal forum]

why do you know so many mao recipes

is this mandatory learning in china

[arctic talon]

Glorious zhong guo cooking book

I’m not Chinese

[crystal forum]

taiwanese whateevr

[arctic talon]

Because people make fun of them

[snow fern]

Sweet and spicy pork belly with a lot of salt, honestly, doesn't sound bad

[arctic talon]

They’re terrible

Mao is uh

Interesting fellow when it comes to taste in food

[opaque coyote]

He also never brushed his teeth

Like

Never

[crystal forum]

what an interesting fellow

[arctic talon]

Mao also really liked hot food

As in

Physically hot

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I like my food kinda hot too

[snow fern]

I mean, cold food can be kinda dull

sometimes

[opaque coyote]

Just not literally hot to the touch

[snow fern]

people like their coffee scalding for whatever reason

[arctic talon]

Sorry mao red braised pork has a single spice in it

Star anise

Everything else is soy sauce

[crystal forum]

i dont know how most people drink coffee

[arctic talon]

Because fuck you

[crystal forum]

i let it cool for a solid 30 minutes

[arctic talon]

Curse of entire days worth of sodium content

In a single meal

[snow fern]

Coffee is to be sipped

[opaque coyote]

Mao also asked for criticism about China

[arctic talon]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

And then decided to execute those that critiqued it

[snow fern]

Honestly, most places also cook their coffee way hotter than they should

[languid meadow]

damaged nerves over a long period of drinking it without letting it cool

[arctic talon]

I had an ancestor get executed during that

[opaque coyote]

He did a slight amount of trolling

[snow fern]

Like McDonalds has had a few lawsuits about it

[crystal forum]

and the woman got shit on by the media for no reason

[languid meadow]

that poor woman

[crystal forum]

my boomer parents still think she was dumb

so easy to manipulate the news

[languid meadow]

I mean their generation had lead around them 24/7 so like

[arctic talon]

Glorious zhong guo propaganda music

https://youtu.be/OjNpRbNdR7E?si=1WLpI84p3TgtKmYL

[crystal forum]

why he so fat

[arctic talon]

Idk

[languid meadow]

egg person

[opaque coyote]

Funnily enough, Chiang Kai-shek also went a bit... insane in his later years

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

Both Mao and Chiang did so

[arctic talon]

He was just insane

[languid meadow]

Glow down of the century

[opaque coyote]

mhmmm true

[languid meadow]

What fighting the Japanese does to a mf

[opaque coyote]

The entire Chinese Civil War was basically two insane people fighting each other

[crystal forum]

the hoi4 pic got me acting up

[arctic talon]

Chang Kai-Shek was genuinely a facist piece of shit lol

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[opaque coyote]

WHO DO YOU WANT TO RULE CHINA?

INSANE COMMUNIST LIBRARIAN?

[arctic talon]

Taiwan only left martial law in around the 1987

For context

Taiwan has only been a democracy for like

[opaque coyote]

OR INSANE FASCIST MILITARY MAN

[crystal forum]

it's only a matter of time until mainland taiwan capitulates

[arctic talon]

30 something years

💀

Chinese reunification is not popular

For either country rn lol

[crystal forum]

i do like how taiwan still claims all of china as a fuck you lol

[arctic talon]

It’s so fucking funny

The KMT being the ones who like China

Is cursed

Because you know

It’s the KMT

[crystal forum]

idk what that is

[arctic talon]

Taiwanese facists

[languid meadow]

crazy

[arctic talon]

As in literal facists

Chiang Kai-Shek’s political party

The reason why Taiwan was under martial law until 1987

[crystal forum]

ah

ah yes

there is no good in the world

only american assets

[arctic talon]

Or as this piece of art during martial law depicts

[arctic talon]

Tbf

The KMT did this without the US’s help

[crystal forum]

yeye not just america at the time

[arctic talon]

Lol

Like

[crystal forum]

every country and their mother was supporting both sides

[arctic talon]

They didn’t get put in power by the US

[crystal forum]

crazy times

[arctic talon]

They were just in power

As far as oppressive facist counties go Taiwan wasn’t terrible

But like

Bar is on the fucking ground

[opaque coyote]

nah it's in hell bruh

whenever I hear Imperium Apologists I'm like

[languid meadow]

you have like italy, spain, and germany to compare it to ( I might be forgetting another fascist nation)

[crystal forum]

at least you didn't get invaded by like 5 countries like the philipines

[opaque coyote]

"bro trust me living in Nazi Germany would be grea-"

[storm jungle]

aughhhh death

well i guess literally

like theres people that defend Mao IRL, at this point 40k doesnt surprise me

[opaque coyote]

I fucking hate Tankies

[crystal forum]

people defend stalin too

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

If you want to read about the white terror(Taiwan edition)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)

[crystal forum]

they barely exist though people need to realize

[tepid peak]

Is it OK if I share some pics from Space Marine 2 in here or would another channel (or server, I know this is Darktide-focused) be more appropriate?

[arctic talon]

I’m not sure why there’s so many things called white terror historically

But whatever I guess

[opaque coyote]

If it's from a cutscene/something story important. Spoiler it

[storm jungle]

#darktide-pics-vids is where most pics go 👍

[tepid peak]

🫡 Cheers.

[storm jungle]

unless you wanna share it here its alright lol

[tepid peak]

yeahbutwhich

[storm jungle]

up to you homie

[tepid peak]

ok

[storm jungle]

we dont really are usually uptight discord mods so go nuts lol

[crystal forum]

dilara will ban you for saying TTS is good

[languid meadow]

tankies do but they seem to mainly located in like the UK and US ime

everytime I hear about them it's in the UK

[arctic talon]

[languid meadow]

damn smited by the bot

lmao

[arctic talon]

Guh

[tepid peak]

Dangit.

It's seven images. Should I post fewer at once?

I'll try pics-vids in any case. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic talon]

Do less at once

Tbh

[storm jungle]

okay i gotta ask

is it normal for like SM2 servers to randomly disconnect

holy fuck 5 times in a row

[tepid peak]

gah. Alright, I'll try one at a time.

[storm jungle]

Man I wanna do some retributors at some point

[tepid peak]

And the inspiration.

[storm jungle]

knew it

[languid meadow]

in my experience yes

[storm jungle]

those are sexy as hell

[languid meadow]

the servers are on life support atm

the play count is insane

[tepid peak]

Thanks! I'm a bit of a fan of the chapter.

[opaque coyote]

I do like how they adopted the Astartes chapter as an actual Chapter now

It's nice

[tepid peak]

Same!

[languid meadow]

(Doing better than HD2 at launch at least)

[crystal forum]

these are the astartes guys right

[languid meadow]

yes

[tepid peak]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

yep they are

tactical grey with white lines

[languid meadow]

they got cannonized iirc

[tepid peak]

Only missing the right knee's squad icon.

[storm jungle]

yeah they have

[crystal forum]

if only GW gave them lore after canonizing them

[storm jungle]

rip

i do like them from how simple they are still

[crystal forum]

but also at least that means they didn't butcher the astartes guy's custom chapter i guess

[storm jungle]

just tactical grey with some gold lining

[opaque coyote]

Also I just noticed that the Bolter Magazine is straight. Which is a bit cursed.

[languid meadow]

I spent all my currency on making deathwatch marines

[opaque coyote]

Because I'm used to seeing them curved

[languid meadow]

all I need is the raptors chapter symbol for my sniper