40k-lore-chat

[bold wren]

Nope

I don't do it to fit in.

I'm just widely impulsive, and I haven't cared about fitting in as long I am not a creep it doesn't matter.

[orchid lark]

Couldnt be me

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-car-gif-10516842

[green loom]

You have 2 yil

[unkempt dove]

19... so young

I dont feel 36. What is adulthood anyway

https://vxtwitter.com/tyronestash3/status/1763092823635583303 why does frieren get the weirdest crossover art

[storm jungle]

because popular anime

happens a lot with recent releases

[green loom]

Time to make some Dungeon Meshi art

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

My hungry ass could NOT be an adventurer

[orchid lark]

I distrust most dungeon meshinfans

Something the mangakas artstyle…it attracts weirdos

[celest dome]

It's a fun manga though

[orchid lark]

(The mangaka to my knowledge is fine, just their artstyle is like looking straight at a jaguar at night)

Oh i dont mind the manga

Its the homestuck in me

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1206931702534901800/fd35cd63c988c8fd6fd0b6bf66a88936.mp4?ex=65f042bd&is=65ddcdbd&hm=0c062c36787ff845530af92837101d776faa9eb611094ba778d9e423d91138e9&

[orchid lark]

Certain artstyles just like summon really weird people

It’s like how when you see someone draw a mouth

[celest dome]

The mouth are very simplistic though

[orchid lark]

No i don’t mean dungeon meshis mouths

I mean there are some artists who draw mouths a certain way

And its like wait hold up

Always fucks me up

Im gonna double check who I follow on twitter so I dont accidentally stumble upon dungeon meshi weirdos

I don’t want this neat little thing being too

Too messed up

[storm jungle]

Too late.

[orchid lark]

Dilara is gonna like and retweet all weird dunmeshi stuff so it appears on fyp

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

im not that evil

[orchid lark]

No you are

I think you are

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

Protect Me Georgian man

[orchid lark]

The natural enemy of Georgians, anything from the water

[storm jungle]

lmao

Is this even english

[orchid lark]

Is that about Darktide

[storm jungle]

I think so?

Feels like it was written by ChatGBT

[orchid lark]

Damage Threshold

My rolls are bad

Proceeds to write a scathing review

[storm jungle]

My rolls are bad

continues to use shitty gambling system that is obviously broken

Omg i got no resources now

https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-27586086

[celest dome]

That's grim

[orchid lark]

It very much is

On par with old folks selling all their homes to live and literally die on cruises

[storm jungle]

Yeah ngl that gif depresses me more than the state of this game

[orchid lark]

Aint my country and aint my problem tho

As long as I can go on darktide, shoot my gun a bit

Shout as every single character

Im all okay

[celest dome]

Do you get depressed by the state of the game ?

[orchid lark]

No in game sex minigame like Cult of the Lamb

Always a reason to be depressed

[green loom]

I'm watching the english dub atm

I like the elf

[storm jungle]

Eh just irked thats about it

[celest dome]

Fair

[burnt maple]

Irked is quite accurate, aye.

[sly goblet]

what's irked mean ?

it is like itchy but more anoying ?

[storm jungle]

Its another form of annoyed but a bit less severe

[sly goblet]

oh thanks

[celest dome]

Annoyed in a way that you aren't forgetting but it's not severe that you can't live with it

[storm jungle]

^

[celest dome]

Iirc it's from fabric/cloth making

[green loom]

Wtf

Did anyone else know Blur made the Dawn of War 1 intro?

[shadow plover]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Nope

[celest dome]

The rock band ?

[shadow plover]

they also made the opening cinematic for Warhammer age of reckoning iirc

or some other warhammer fantasy video game

but they really started to be noticed around the time Halo Wars came out

[pale onyx]

So is the word bearers the only chaos faction that see the chaos gods as like the truth or some shit? Like a god to worship. Not just a tool for power

[shadow plover]

Chaos faction, no. Legion? Probably

[celest dome]

There are elements in most Chaos Warband that are seeing the CG as that

Like Typhus

[green loom]

What the hell is this studio

Their track record is insane

Never realized they got around this much

[shadow plover]

yeah plenty of characters from myriad of legions do believe in them as gods and worship them but Word Bearers are probably the only legion to agree to that across the board

[pale onyx]

I thought Typhus did it for the power?

[plush mason]

the OG one?

[shadow plover]

uhh I think so

also for Mark of Chaos

[pine wedge]

pfft hell no. the average chaos cult absolutely worships them as gods.

so do the scabs and dregs from darktide, in fact

[pale onyx]

I see like most chaos space marines use them as a means for power and eventually immortality

[pine wedge]

yeah. chaos space marines, the original bunch of traitors anyway, were from a time when nobody worshipped any gods. the emperor had outlawed religion after he seized power and started the great crusade.

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JglnSrfJtyQ this is the original one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKOhzfkCdbY and this is the newer one

[pine wedge]

the word bearers lost the plot in that regard and started worshipping things again but the other legions took part in the heresy for very different, non-religious reasons, and they did not see the ruinous powers as gods

[shadow plover]

the newer one was by them for sure, unsure about the first one but it looks similar in style

[rocky gale]

I missed the Star Wars discussions because I was out buying shoes

This is why I never leave the house

[pale onyx]

I see. So in terms of chaos space marines it’s just word bearers? Cus like daemon primearchs got tricked into worshipping them or are too mad to even talk.

And I don’t see how typhus is devout follower and not just using Nurgle as a means

[plush mason]

yeah they might have made both

[pine wedge]

daemon primarchs being too mad to talk is news to me?

[pale onyx]

Isn’t angron just RAAGHHHH

[pine wedge]

generally, a mortal that ascends to daemonhood (daemon prince) does not lose their sanity or consciousness (insofar as they still had any), as far as I know. I am not aware of the daemon primarchs having lost their minds beyond just being generally depraved

[pine wedge]

oh well that's Angron.

[shadow plover]

and even he has slightly coherent moments

[rocky gale]

Real talk though, how the hell can a pair of shoes be 40% off and still cost £70, that's money I could have spent buying virtual clothes in Darktide

[plush mason]

yeah he was one note angry man for basically the whole of the crusade afaik

butcher nails did a real number on him

[burnt maple]

He was supposed to represent the Emperor's chivalry. Honor.

Fucking nails...

[pale onyx]

But yeah what’s the deets with typhus? How’s he different than most chaos marines in terms of using the gods as a means

[plush mason]

big E himself didnt help matters much ether

[burnt maple]

Big E was being a cretin with Angron's situation.

[plush mason]

the way he handled the shithole of a world Angron was stuck on was just one massive clusterfuck of a mistake

[burnt maple]

Well. Apparently the planet conceded to the Emperor before Angron.

[pine wedge]

Typhus absorbed an entire Nurgle plague into his body and was significantly transformed by it. he's pretty unique in that regard

[burnt maple]

So he did not want to level a city because his son.

[plush mason]

is it still canon big e kidnapped him and left his friends to die?

[burnt maple]

Yep afaik.

[plush mason]

so yeah

emps did everything wrong on that front

[burnt maple]

Yuuuup.

Even I wouldn't fuck up this bad.

[pine wedge]

classic Emps: fucking up massively whenever ordinary human emotional considerations are involved

his mortal weakness

[plush mason]

ngl that whole story is just proof of how badly working backwards in lore can go

[burnt maple]

He learned his emotions tad too late.

[pine wedge]

I actually think that every time big E has to fuck up on an emotional intelligence front to make the lore work his character becomes better

[burnt maple]

Eh. Emps is a plot device, not a character per se.

[plush mason]

even from a non-emotional POV it made no sense to ally with the local slave-lords and piss his son off like that dude had the planet by the balls and could have made any demands he wanted and gotten them

[pine wedge]

he's much more interesting as the ultimate transhuman, so divorced from mortal feelings that he was always doomed to fail in his goal of creating the ultimate galaxy-spanning empire of Reason(TM) and Logic(TM)

[pale onyx]

I like how he dealt with Logar tho. If you wanna serve a god, this is what happens when you serve a fps. And forced the legion to kneel as their city got obliterated.

[burnt maple]

THAT WAS SO ATUPID.

And what? A whole fucking century after Word Bearers been conquering that way?

[plush mason]

"let me flex my god-like powers to prove to you i am not a god"

[burnt maple]

Great fucking reaction time!

Archonite the Gigachad: Monarchia was no punishment. It was a test my father and brothers failed.

[plush mason]

and hell that only happened because Lorgar and his legion where dragging their feet iirc

[pale onyx]

The quote God is real, he just hates us goes hard fr tho. Or whatever it was, something like that

[burnt maple]

Yep. Because instead of razing cities to the ground he took his time to convince.

[pale onyx]

Or Logars “I have only ever wanted the truth”

Honestly I’m split between death guard and word bearers as my favorite faction

[burnt maple]

Eeeeeh.

[shadow plover]

Word Bearers are honestly great

[plush mason]

ngl the irony of Lorgar's legion is still amazingly well done to me. a legion of iconoclasts becoming a legion of fanatical zealots

[burnt maple]

They are not. Were. Now simply bunch of mustache twirling villains.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-24843255

[burnt maple]

XD

[pale onyx]

They still do it out of devotion though which is great

[shadow plover]

Eh since the better characterisation in the Heresy series it has gotten better in the modern 40k as well

[pale onyx]

Honestly I hope we see Logar back in the setting, he made dumb fucking mistakes but most characters have

[shadow plover]

But they do be twirling still

[pale onyx]

True

[plush mason]

and in true believer fashion when he didnt get the answers he wanted he rejected the answers

[burnt maple]

Lorgar is only marginally better than Mortarion.

Both dumb fucks.

[pale onyx]

Did he reject chaos?

[plush mason]

nah

he rejected the emperor for chaos because the emperor kept telling him there are no gods and he wasnt one

[pale onyx]

I think he’s way better though. Mortarian can die in a hole. It’s a shame he’s nurgles primearch

[pale onyx]

But thhat imperial truth was a lie as there were gods

[burnt maple]

Lorgar at least had a reason to feel betrayed.

Mortarion is simply a bitchy sack of shit.

[plush mason]

depends on how you define "god" really

[burnt maple]

And not even Nurgle's fav.

[pale onyx]

Not to@mention the big E is essentially a god himself now so

[pale onyx]

Nurgles fav is typhus right

[burnt maple]

Yup.

[plush mason]

Bile could easily be right on the money and the "dark gods" are literally nothing but super powerful talking fart clouds

[shadow plover]

Mortarion is great, love me some sad little bitch who caused all the shit he's gone through to himself

[pale onyx]

What does typhus do that makes him so devoted and earn nurgles favor?

[burnt maple]

Imagine being cucked on fav spot by your son who tricked you into chaos.

[burnt maple]

He orchestrated the fall of Death Guard.

[pale onyx]

Yeah but I mean aside from that, does he pray to Nurgle? Is he looking to please Nurgle because he wants to help his god? Or because he wants more power

[plush mason]

didnt he fuse with a daemon?

[burnt maple]

Dunno. Didn't go that far.

Lets say I do not endorse Chaos.

[pale onyx]

I endorse word bearers and Nurgle

[tulip brook]

Heretics don't function the same, ritualistic wacko cults that summon demons

Nurgle guys are like antivax stay at home mothers coughing on people

Or khornate berserkers have no time for incense burning they bash heads instead

So no point in comparing typhus and bile and mortarion and lorgar in terms of chaos worship

Typhus wants to be #1 in nurgle's favorite son list. Because grandpa loves lists and of course he has one for his favorites

The guy's title is traveler because he's always on the move spreading plague somewhere. His body is hosting destroyer hive.

Does he need to pray daily too?

[rose thorn]

The books he’s in he doenst seem too religious

Unlike other death guard

[tulip brook]

Bile goes full atheist while his ship is a wraithbone construct made with slaanesh's song

[rose thorn]

Also Typhus is literally Nurgles chosen warrior

Him existing is the closest you would get to nurgle

[rocky gale]

I completely misread that as "He exists in the closet"

[tulip brook]

Just saying these guys do way more for chaos gods than a nerd shouting prayers in his tower for 10k years

[green loom]

Idk typhus seems pretty nurglite

[cloud grotto]

Just ordered the first 7 Horus Heresy books

They will all be mine eventually

[rocky gale]

RIP

[burnt maple]

Technical, mechanical question about space marine armors:

How does it work with the enhanced strength and speed? There isn't much, if at all, in terms of hydraulics on the armor, platings are too close to the body. Maybe on the shoulders, maybe legs.

Is it safe to assume that the synth skin under ceramite platings work as a second layer of muscles that make it work?

[storm jungle]

its the black carapace

its basically a neural muscle-suit under the armor

like most science fiction it makes it like a second skin and gives you more mobility and makes it less clunky to work with

also dont think too hard about it because space marine armor is very goofy and impractical lol

[cloud grotto]

Rule of cool > realism

[storm jungle]

Depends.

It looks cool until you need to raise your arms

[burnt maple]

Wait, wasn't the black carape under the skin? I know it connects neural systems to the armor system, but what is the external layer that receives neural commands?

[storm jungle]

Yeah it is

i did say muscle-suit

guess was a bit too unspecific and didnt say its under the skin whoops

[burnt maple]

So, I was kinda correct in my assumption.

Thanks!

[sly goblet]

The problem with sci fy it's actually way simpler to conceptualize something than explaining it

Like the gravy gun

you can understand what it does

but you can't explain how it works

[rocky gale]

The Gravy gun seems self explanatory

[sly goblet]

Indeed

but you can't give a claer explanation on how it works

[shrewd depot]

It's honestly been described so many ways

[rocky gale]

It must make the gravy somehow

and then have some means of heating it up

Because no one wants cold gravy

[sly goblet]

how do you shoot gravity

[shrewd depot]

The most prominent being a cybernetic enhance that attaches to the bone subdurmally

[storm jungle]

its just an under-muscle suit

[shrewd depot]

If it was just a muscle suit then Sisters of Battle could wear it

[storm jungle]

not much beyond that

[green loom]

The black carrapace is the black carrapace, and does what the black carrapace is supposed to do

[shrewd depot]

But they're explicitly stated as being unable due to not having black carapace

The Everseer assassians have muscle suits

Fucking Cyrsis style stuff

[green loom]

It was a plot point with Cawl that the Astartes project had trouble with the carapace being rejected by marines 🤔

[storm jungle]

Pretty much this, its not that complex

[shrewd depot]

But nah. The black carapace is an implant, it's like a exosuit that goes under their skin

[storm jungle]

....

thats what we've been saying

lmao

[rocky gale]

Forever sad that my RT character didn't get the chance to go all Fabius Bile with the Black Carapace.

[shrewd depot]

You see little ports on space marine skin

[storm jungle]

😔

[shrewd depot]

You said it was a worn muscle suit

[storm jungle]

bruh

[shrewd depot]

It's not. It's surgically implanted into the marines

[storm jungle]

I literally said its an under-muscle suit

ive been into 40k for 12 years, im pretty sure i know what it is lol

[shrewd depot]

Whew boy. Throwing out time like it matters

[green loom]

It's their pajamas

[storm jungle]

It kinda does

so idk what your point is

[rocky gale]

She was unfortunately executed before full frontal biologis heresy could properly ensue.

[green loom]

It connects a neuro-fiber-musculoid link to your megathropic hiblidator so you can turn the armour into a third skin

[storm jungle]

you joke but its basically described as more or less as such

science-mumbo jumbo-goes-under-skinno

[green loom]

It's simple neuromechanic trigmechanicry

Based on Hegellian Dialectics

[storm jungle]

💀

[rocky gale]

To think all they had to do to make the Carapace work for regular humans was to inverse the lateral phase inductors by bypassing the regulatory flow indicators with a subdermal transverse polymer graft

It's simple when you think about it

[green loom]

They just had to solve the Beetlejuice fallacy

[rocky gale]

Easily resolved by layering the sub-molecular monofilament in an alternating helical structure with an embedded dispersion field

[tulip brook]

So all they need is a screwdriver and duct tape

[humble shoal]

See I always thought the black carapace was just a really good tan

With some studs to get that tan even under the skin

[storm jungle]

[tulip brook]

Studs are there so the armor won't chafe

[humble shoal]

Nanomachines son

[tulip brook]

9/10 space marines suffer from irritated skin and nasty rashes after each campaign

[rocky gale]

The Black carapace is actually designed to constantly oil up and spray tan the Marine so at any moment they can strip off and reveal the peak Mr universe build

[humble shoal]

The custodes have this as well

What was she thinking?

[tulip brook]

Custodes have genetic therapy and they don't need spray tan, their sweat gives them naturally bronze sheen

[rocky gale]

That's the superior bio-engineering at work

[humble shoal]

I see

[tough haven]

Efficient lubrication so their skin remains strong and durable

What would happen if several blanks were introduced into a WAAAGH! Or they were otherwise cut off from theyre gestalt psychic energy?

Does the shadow in the warp do this to them?

[orchid lark]

Sisters of Silence were used to a certain degree during the war of the beast

Since all “magic” as it were is linked to the soul, i suppose the anti-soul effects of blanks do counteract it

Someone can confirm it i guess

If they have the books

[river walrus]

Is this place Ulgo write backstory?

[storm jungle]

Titan pilots are basically gamers.

[rocky gale]

A small price to pay for the grind

[proven needle]

You nasty 😆

[storm jungle]

I LEGIT did not expect the "smell of her own shit" line that it made me do a double-take

[tough haven]

Yes.

[tough haven]

Would orks become more dejected without exposure to the WAAAAAGH! Energy? Or would it not matter so long as they’re fighting?

[tough haven]

Nurgle corruption?

[dusk patrol]

I always enjoyed the aspect of how clearly addicting pilot a titan is and how even when they’re losing their mind they still just wanna do one more march

One more Engine Kill

[tough haven]

Or is this regular operation?

[storm jungle]

A mix of both

the shit/stains is more her just....

not taking care of herself

at all lmao

[storm jungle]

People really underesitmate how much people would love controlling giant robots

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall2-gif-27682525

[tough haven]

Subnautica moment

[dusk patrol]

The way it’s described is has to be the most exhilarating feeling ever. Youre a god on the battlefield, you’re merged with with ancient beast and controlling it.

You can literally feel its engines and weapons heating up and firing

[storm jungle]

Yeah even in this passage she says a missile hit her head

not the titan's

love the little way of speaking difference

[dusk patrol]

I love the one part in Titanicus where Gearhart has to control like six warlords at once under his will. It’s described so painfully, especially since the whole book he’s clearly at the last stages of his career and starting to lose himself.

[tough haven]

“It is normal when first piloting a Prawn suit to feel a sense of limitless power. Prawn operators receive weeks of training to counteract this phenomenon. You will have to make do with self-discipline.”

[teal kestrel]

Do traitor vessels use Navigators?

i know some traitor legions can just use warp magic to do the same

[storm jungle]

Yes they do.

Its a matter of if you can get your hand on one or just

"Hey can you make some fleshsack on the wall that births out a Diet Navigator, thanks."

[dusk patrol]

Some of them use sorcerers instead

[teal kestrel]

kek

[dusk patrol]

Or other means but yeah a lot use navigators

[teal kestrel]

so Navigators are kinda only a imperium thing?

[dusk patrol]

There’s traitor or rogue houses

[teal kestrel]

ah

[storm jungle]

They are mainly imperium but what he said ^

[teal kestrel]

got cha

[storm jungle]

They were basically around/post Dark Age of Tech as cartels giving services before becoming noble houses and finding a monopoly

[teal kestrel]

that makes sense

[storm jungle]

The Imperium happened ot be THE biggest concentration of human civillization so 99% of them just devoted their services to it

[teal kestrel]

[rose thorn]

What’s everyone’s favorite crime in the imperium

[storm jungle]

Tax Evasion

See: Badab War

[dusk patrol]

Bloodlines

[rose thorn]

So Necromunda has like tech smugglers

And like

What kind of tech do you smuggle that you can sell to under hivers

[arctic talon]

The type that commits extreme ammounts of violence

[rocky gale]

The best thing to smuggle in Necromunda's underhive is meat

Always fresh

[rose thorn]

Also the spire (where upper class live)’s black market is basically Walmart for illegal tech

And shit

Like non criminal gangs can easily find it

[storm jungle]

Parts of machines, vehicles, weapons especially.

When people are desperate they'll try to sell you anything, you need to be the smart one to know the difference and what to buy/sell

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah people get executed for using non mechanicus parts right

[storm jungle]

Uhhh very much depends

There do even exists ex-mechanicus techpriests that can be vendors too

its very much like blackmarket trading IRL, you kinda need to be careful with who you pick as clients lol

or well even buy from

[arctic talon]

Depends on what it’s for

If it’s a battery for a flashlight or a light bulb who gives a shit

If it’s like the internals of a plasma gun

[storm jungle]

Yeah you will know you are in deep shit if even your vendor is like "Get rid of this and act like you never found it"

[arctic talon]

Yeah

There’s a lot of grey trade in the imperium

Especially on hive worlds

It’s illegal technically but literally no one gives a shit about it

Until it becomes problematic

[storm jungle]

Yeah like most of the time the Enforcers will either never find it because they are fucking lazy or just bribed/dont give a shit.

Arbites meanwhile dont even care as long as you arent affecting the tithe and someone snitches.

[arctic talon]

The average tech priest on a hive world also won’t care about all the super benign minor tech heresy most likely as well

Since they’re probably an enginseer

Stuck with a shit job

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

[arctic talon]

Like being an enginseer is a dead end job

99% of the time

[storm jungle]

Just like engineering IRL

[pine wedge]

Kayex was a good addition to Darktide to highlight the difference between a tech priest like Hadron and an enginseer. That dude is so devoted to maintaining technology that it causes him physical pain to interface with it when it's being misused lmao. Deadass hyperfixated

There's worse jobs though. Steady employment and all that.

[arctic talon]

can you even be unemployed as a member of the mechanicus

[rocky gale]

I'd manage it somehow

[arctic talon]

I don’t think that’s ever been show

[arctic talon]

Sentenced to cleaning servitors

[young pecan]

"Servitor B369 shit itself for the fourth time this week, go clean it broke boy"

[rocky gale]

🧼 🫷

[tough haven]

Who?

[rocky gale]

The other Admech vocator

[queen laurel]

That's the one with the vocabulary larger than like a rhinoceros yeah

[storm jungle]

You can be directly kicked out and shunned

Its between that or execution

[arctic talon]

well

then you aren't a part anymore

If you get kicked out

[storm jungle]

you "crime" can literally be just "Yeah we found you kinda lacking and the priesthood doesn't think you got what it takes. Give us your bionics and get out."

[arctic talon]

mmmm

bionic removal

[storm jungle]

YOU LITERALLY SAID UNEMPLOYED

[queen laurel]

How to threaten a tech priest

You better shut up or i will update your operating systems to windows 11

[storm jungle]

If its not a big fish and a small fry pretty easily

[arctic talon]

AS A PART OF THE MECHANICUS

[rocky gale]

An unemployed employee

[pine wedge]

No but you could also be employed as part of an explorator fleet engaging in combat and shit. Lotta enginseer positions don't involve any of that

[misty halo]

Can someone describe the lore to me I just watched the first cutscene and got through some of the prologue and I’m so confused

[storm jungle]

Bro where do we even start

lmao

[rocky gale]

Okay, so we start 10 thousand years ago

[arctic talon]

uhhhhhhh

[arctic talon]

It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

NOT THE OPENING STAR WARS TITLE NOOO

[arctic talon]

IT GOT ME HOOKED INTO THE SETTING

IT WORKS

[storm jungle]

It reveals nothing about the setting

so no

[arctic talon]

I'd post the pirated 8e rulebook

but I'm 99% sure thats bannable

so I won't lol

[storm jungle]

Also yeah rulebooks or general lore introduction vids are better

[arctic talon]

Core Rulebooks are like the best way to get introduced to the setting

they teach you everything you need to know baseline

about every faction

[tough haven]

I can dm you if you have specific questions

[arctic talon]

I think its hilarious that in the 8e core rule book its the exact same fucking quote

[rocky gale]

If you want lore summary of the game, you are a citizen of the Imperium who has been arrested for some reason, as such you were on a prison barge destined for god knows where to whatever cruel fate awaited you but are instead inducted into an Inquisitorial warband to wage war against the vile traitors who seek to destroy our glorious Imperium.

[arctic talon]

except it got changed to 42nd millenium

[tough haven]

I can’t say I’ve ever heard them, unless I misremember, is it new?

[rocky gale]

He's in the Carnival maps

[queen laurel]

Do you just have this lying on your backpack or something

[arctic talon]

Carnival stim sabotage mission

[arctic talon]

no

[tough haven]

Ah

[tough haven]

They have any ebook on their device I imagine

[rocky gale]

If you need to understand the premise better then watch Suicide Squad, it's basically that.

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

accurate

[arctic talon]

Imperial suicide squad

[queen laurel]

But which one

There's like

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/king-shark-suicide-squad-bird-jamegunn-thesuicidesquad-gif-22066177

[rocky gale]

The good one

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-squad-sucide-will-smith-gif-22583748

[storm jungle]

James Gunn appearing out of nowhere

and making me care about fucking Polkadot Man

[queen laurel]

They actually made his use of polka dots as powers kind of sick and kind of horrifying

Have you seen how that s*** melts you

[storm jungle]

It literally burns/melts through people its great

also him having excess of it and having to puke it out is fucked up

[queen laurel]

God damn his mother was the worst

[dusk patrol]

Hey maybe he was a really annoying kid

He could have deserved it

You never know

[storm jungle]

His mom experimented on him so

💀

[dusk patrol]

Fuck dem kids

[arctic talon]

Warframe refrence

[queen laurel]

In what world would you justify someone getting turned into a polka dot spewing killing machine that can shoot polka dots so hot it can melt through steel

[arctic talon]

To make him a super hero

[queen laurel]

Do you have any idea how many fictional universes got f***** over because they wanted superheroes

[dusk patrol]

Maybe he like always asked if her phone had games on it at restaurants with a really snotty nose and cried when he didn’t get dessert

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

I’m just say, it’s possible he had it coming

[rocky gale]

Didn't experiment on just him, but his siblings as well

[dusk patrol]

The real crime is his outfit

[queen laurel]

As if the 36 depressive childhood combo wasn't already painful enough she added the extra salt

[crystal forum]

my dream had fabius bile in it yesterday

[rocky gale]

Unfortunate

[crystal forum]

I have never read any book about him nor thought about him longer than 20 seconds yet still

[storm jungle]

ı got big news for you

that means you're gay

[crystal forum]

damn

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/omedetou-congratulations-evangelion-shinji-chair-gif-17781895581304383421

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-clapping-clapping-hands-japan-sea-gif-13300627

[crystal forum]

i dont get these anime memes

ive never watched anime

[rocky gale]

Lucky

[storm jungle]

He doesn't get it.

[queen laurel]

Bro is devious for hitting him with that evangelion meme

[arctic talon]

lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956389828939882507/1210435203118665748/Makoto_evoker.gif

how I feel seeing more evangelion memes

Anyone who makes evangelion hospital jokes is on my shit list/hj

[queen laurel]

Ah that scene

Really does wonders for the mind doesn't it

[arctic talon]

In the worst way possible

[queen laurel]

Many say it's the positive way

Do not believe them

[arctic talon]

I assure you viewers, Shinji ||sexually assaulting someone in a coma|| is essential to the plot

[queen laurel]

My genuine reaction

[rocky gale]

Pretty sure Evangelion is one of those animes where the creators absolutely despise their fanbase

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

One of my favorite things with EVA is people are like

"Oh my god look at all this christian imagery and symbolism it HAS to mean something"

The creator of the series: I just thought it looked cool tbh

[arctic talon]

"I did it because angels look cool"

[storm jungle]

KEK

actual gigachad tbh

[queen laurel]

Damn they be like 40k fans for real for real

[storm jungle]

yup

[arctic talon]

Chainsaw man changing it from Conquest to Control lul

reasoning: Fujimoto thought it fit better

also because he wanted pestilence as well

[queen laurel]

Fujimoto nurgle fan confirmed

[arctic talon]

tbf this is gross as hell lol

[rocky gale]

Like if I remember rightly EVA was intended as a deconstruction of anime and it's tropes by basically showing how actually horrifying a lot of the stuff the fans fetishize actually is, then instead of realising that the fans just fetishized it as well.

[storm jungle]

Yeah at the end it didnt matter

[arctic talon]

Where's the flying over head meme

for EVA

[arctic talon]

you know what close enough

[rocky gale]

EVA "Here is Rei, she is here to show you that your fascination with ultra subservient girls is actually an obsession with an inhuman ideal of a character that lacks personal agency and is actually deeply unhealthy"

Fans "Wow, she's the perfect woman"

[queen laurel]

People be stupid

[arctic talon]

What’s new

Literary analysis devil strikes again

[crisp heath]

I like how Lain had the opposite problem

The whole point of Lain was that it was supposed to address a very specific issue the author percieved in Japanese society in a very particular time period, but it was widely enjoyed and understood internationally for a long time and that frustrates the hell out of him

It was supposed to be nationalistic but everyone related lmao

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rocky gale]

It's annoying because I really like Rei and I'll meet other people (it's always guys) who say they do and then I listen to them talk about her for more than 20 seconds and it's just....

[arctic talon]

[burnt maple]

You have no idea how many artists have it like that xD

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

"Why is everything in 40k gothic"

Lore nerd: bla bla the emperor thought-

40k artists: it just looks cool tbh

[burnt maple]

Ernest Hemingway had the same thing:
"Tell us, how did you come to the analogy of x?"
"Huh? Oh, I like it! Let's roll with that"

[orchid lark]

There must be something inherently christian about evangelion

“We thought crosses and crucifixion looked cool lmao”

[storm jungle]

KEK

[green loom]

I wouldn't mind being crucified

[orchid lark]

If you survive you get Stigmata

[arctic talon]

They still don’t crucify the dog along with everyone else in persona 3 reload

[green loom]

I'm fine with a bullet too

[arctic talon]

Fallout new Vegas reference/j

[green loom]

Hey man, when in Rome

[storm jungle]

Do as Hegelian dialectics do

[orchid lark]

Thanks Caeser

Time for your operation

[green loom]

Brb watching Reagan get shot

Most satisfying part of Wolfenstein 2

[storm jungle]

lmfao

I love how you can tell its him since they even covered his casting chair's text on the back lol

[green loom]

There's a list on the desk behind you and his name has a smudge over it so you can't read it

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

they 100% knew some people would get upset lmao

thats what you get for causing the crack epidemic you piece o fshit

[orchid lark]

Reagan was my favourite character in mob paycho

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/3qry6Ys0Dck?si=QFhKmhosA0CHTg9M

Shame Wolfenstien 2 plays horribly balance wise

For the new wolfenstien games the first one is still the best

[queen laurel]

Average response from someone who is not from Arizona hearing someone from Arizona

[green loom]

I'm eh on it

[arctic talon]

You’re way too squishy early and once you get more stats the game makes enemies deal more damage

Like literally what?

[green loom]

On the one hand I appreciate it a lot more with it's messaging nowadays
On the other my guns feel floaty and my pistol's iron sights don't work

[arctic talon]

I’m in the power armor and I’m less tanky then in the first game

And then once you get the stolen Nazi super soldier body you’re squishier then the first game and the power armor

Like ??????

[queen laurel]

Do you get to shoot Hitler in the nuts like in that one sniper game

[green loom]

You get to curb stomp him

[arctic talon]

You get to stomp his fucking skull in

There’s an achievement for it as well

[queen laurel]

Good Enough

[arctic talon]

Now granted all the Nazis in the room kill you because you’re undercover

[queen laurel]

I would prefer to kick him in between the nuts though

[arctic talon]

But you gotta do it

[burnt maple]

Sniper Elite 4.

[arctic talon]

It’s literally free

[green loom]

Also another thing

They had a lot of special interactions/environmental stuff in game 1 with like sleeping guards and shit

[burnt maple]

1 nut, as a matter of fact.

He. He.

[queen laurel]

did not have to remember that Tarreth

[green loom]

That's all mostly just gone in 2

[burnt maple]

You are most welcome.

[queen laurel]

I'm strapping a rock to a lightning rod and hitting you with it during a thunderstorm

[arctic talon]

The hatchet is way more satisfying then the knife

Tbh

I love the executions with it

Wolfenstien Youngblood also has some great animation work for the new hatchet and knife takedowns

[burnt maple]

What an oddly specific retaliation... I like it!

[rose thorn]

me returning to my first space marien chatper i wrote

[orchid lark]

Me staying with my first home brew chapter for 8 years despite making so many others since

[rose thorn]

so angry my favorite chatper i made was the first one

[queen laurel]

i would make a space marine chapter but i don't know what to give them the right idea with

do i make them sane or do i make them killing machines

[orchid lark]

Sane Killing Machines

I dub thee, a son of Ferrus Manus

[queen laurel]

I was planning to call them the Adamantium Buffalos or some shit

Have them like specialize in bull rushing tactics

while also being nice to people

[orchid lark]

Steers (another word for Buffalo i think, or Bulls?) of Adamantium

[queen laurel]

That's the name for a Neurtered male cattle

That does not help much but thanks

[orchid lark]

I guess marines are neutered

[rose thorn]

My chapter’s home world is a magic bullshit purple star and they believe in star reading and work with the Ordo Astra

[orchid lark]

Oh yeah those guys

I remember

[queen laurel]

to be honest my own specialized homebrew army is an ork clan

that specializes in rescue operations and mercenary work

[orchid lark]

Orky-lances

[queen laurel]

yeah they will forcefully and aggressively save someone and steal something from them as payment and dip

[simple coral]

Lads I've just witnessed something horrific.
Someone on reddit claimed that wisp (a character from the game warframe) could solo a custodes

And honestly I can't help but agree. She can make a portal to the center of a star and direct that energy directly

[crisp heath]

going purely off her wiki and official site articles, yeah, easily beats a custodes

I mean, that's also a major thing with custodes

they're brutally powerful, but can't deal with supernatural threats

[queen laurel]

there's is a warframe fast enough that just him running around the planet is enough to obliterate the atmosphere

That's just one of the simpler ones

[orchid lark]

Warframes are very VERY strong

[simple coral]

I've just started a full on argument of a debate with some of my friends about the topic and the big question is how the Tenno and warframes would do if placed in 40k.

This is assuming a group of 100 tenno, each with access to every warframe (one at a time).
This also assumes the void and warp are different places and psykers cannot disrupt transference

[queen laurel]

Pretty well

Diversity of Warframe abilities and the devastation they can cause is one of the reasons why they are a prime attack force

[orchid lark]

Better access to weapons too

[simple coral]

My stance is that they'd hold their own but be kinda like the Tau. A thorn in the side yes, but not big enough to worry about for most factions

Honestly they'd probably hold a role similar to what they have in game now. Rapid hit and runs without holding major ground anywhere

[orchid lark]

I feel like the Tenno are something to worry about for most factions.
Too efficient id say

[queen laurel]

they would have an easier time in 40K

Most often the most threatening stuff factions can throw at them they can find a way to easily shut down

[simple coral]

There is also the chance they work as mercenaries. Since they already do that for the grineer and corpus

[crisp heath]

I am trying desperately to make this DEX barbarian work in 5e rip

[queen laurel]

a dex barbarian?

[crisp heath]

yeah

[orchid lark]

Lore accurate

[queen laurel]

Don't they usually brute force their problems so strength is an option

why Dex

[crisp heath]

Yeah, this barbarian is STR+0, DEX +3

It's fun

[queen laurel]

is it home brew?

[crisp heath]

No, using only official rules

[queen laurel]

yeah that sounds like a doozy

[crisp heath]

There is an eventual plan to dip into rogue, and the ancestral guardian subclass focuses on debuffing enemies and protecting allies

So it could work, I'm just going to have to avoid most base barbarian features

And it won't be super useful until like, level 4 (to get ancestral guardian and 1 rogue level)

[queen laurel]

The imagery of a barbarian that is not physically strong but just goes to the shadow and stabs you is certainly something

[crisp heath]

Oh no, the idea is they're an elf who trained their mind to not feel pain or emotion, and to not respond at all to the idea of "murder". They just go into a trance, calmly kill everything in front of them, and then completely repress it.

Sidestepping swords, brushing off wounds, that kind of thing. They don't really realize they've been hurt until hours later.

[queen laurel]

them just entering rage is just them going into trance is what I'm getting

[crisp heath]

Yeah, pretty much. Pure ego death.

[versed ledge]

You guys wonder if the concept of beauty exists for ogryns and catachans?

Like they're both just so muscly

[crisp heath]

I'm sure it does. They're still human.

[versed ledge]

Yeah...but what is beautiful for them?

I mean a mommy ogryn and daddy ogryn apparently exists

As for catachans, muscles bar may be the only thing going for them

[crisp heath]

Look at the way people in homer were described. They were big, muscular, outcasts. Their beauty was in their martial prowess, their sheer strength. It's what inspired the ripped guys in all the rennaissance art, but the actual text is more like "strong fat" powerlifters.

It's not even a super alien idea, just one our culture doesn't appreciate much.

Sbould also note there is very much art of hot catachans

[versed ledge]

Say what now

[queen laurel]

yeah

[crisp heath]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/72/Female_Catachan2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130611062630

Maybe not your cup of tea, but definitely not unattractive

[queen laurel]

it's not the most surprising because well every imperium faction has one

guard mechanicus

space marines somehow

[crisp heath]

I won't speak for men, not my thing, but "the biggest, strongest guy you've ever seen" is definitely a lot of people's type

[queen laurel]

yeah it has that appeal, probably what makes Halsin from BG 3 so popular

[versed ledge]

Getting some Ripley from aliens vibes from her

[bold wren]

Metal Gear Solid exists for a reason

The same reason why the Catachan exist

I mean broly guys is more recent natural body building is way different

[tough haven]

So a war mask?

[crisp heath]

Very similar! but it's all done through meditation.

[misty halo]

Yes please do

What’s the basic lore of the game? I have no idea they are very confusing with story telling in this game

[rose thorn]

That’s literally Ripley

[crisp heath]

I think Darktide basically assumes you know a bit about 40k.

What specifically is confusing you?

[rose thorn]

[crisp heath]

The basic idea is that humanity are religious nuts who hate all aliens or heretics, their God is a physical person, who is nearly dead and sitting on a throne on Terra, just a comatose near-corpse.

That's the basic gist but if you want more detail a lot of people would answer questions.

[bright garden]

This is definitely my cup of tea

I would scald my mouth sipping this

[tulip brook]

The game drops random lore tidbits from the universe instead of focusing what's going on in game most of the time anyway

In summary; in a relatively important planet cult of a chaos god of pestilence nurgle(one of the big four) releases a zombie plague and inquisition (secret police of the galactic empire) goes to investigate but they stretch their resources so much that they need to hijack a rogue trader's ship and have to employ strike teams made from prisoners to employ as a force.

You as a prisoner turned inquisitorial agent fight against mindless zombies, chaos worshippers and chaos worshipping armed rebellion

[orchid lark]

We’re a branch of grendels assets

Tertium is in a “smaller” war

There are two more hives and the situation on those is so bad that its confidential for the rejects to know

The rogue trader is “employed” and less of being hijacked

There is prestige to helping a planet go back to imperial fold

Not to mention potential of buying over merchant ships and blah blah blah

[tulip brook]

She doesn't sound way too happy about her employment tho

[orchid lark]

Its service under the inquisition

No one is fucking happy

For more lore context, Tertium is the name of the hive city we’re in.

The planet is called Atoma Prime

Tertium or Tertius is usually used to denote a third in a sequence for things

I think its from Dune?

Primus, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, Quintus, and Sextus

Future latin

[mild rapids]

I mean service under the inquisition can be just. I'm requisitioning your stuff

And not many people can say no to an Inquisitor

A rogue trader sometimes can depending on the warrant of trade they have

[coarse pumice]

It was never a deconstruction; ironically viewing it as a deconstruction is misinterpreting it because most things people thought were ‘deconstructions’ are genre staples (the consequences and horror) that were unseen to people used to seeing satire or children’s toned down versions. During the same era, Nadesico is way closer to being a proper deconstruction of its genre.

[storm jungle]

Nah it was just another "I'm such a depressed creator, have some mindfuck drug-induced imagery"

[rocky gale]

TBF people have been arguing about whether or not it's a deconstruction for almost 30 years

and if you look it up you'll find everything from "It's not a deconstruction" to "This is why it's the greatest deconstruction of all time"

[lunar harness]

japanese anime designers in the 2000s:
let me just reference catholic imagery real quick

[lunar harness]

https://tenor.com/view/willsmith-fresh-prince-gif-5207996

[orchid lark]

Japanese writers in the 80s:
I fucking hate the government and economy

[drifting cloud]

Some lore for my ogryn OC, Brik.

Born in an unnamed hive city on Brax Magna within the Moebian system; Brik always seemed a bit brighter than most of his other ogryn siblings. While not the most adept at reading, writing or math; Brik as was always fascinated by machines, with the various ultra heavy mining machines that worked in the bowels of the underhive being his favorites. By the time he was 12; Brik was already 5ft tall and doing just as much heavy lifting as any of the other workers, and was even granted the privilege to replace one of the broken gears in a heavy mining drill.

Brik eventually joined up with a hive gang known as The Hellhounds; who originally hailed from Necromunda, but a few members migrated to the Moebian sector, and re-established the gang there. Brik's primary role was as the gang's head enforcer and problem solver. His job was simple; fix problems. No task was too small or too large for Brik. However; his life would suddenly change when he turned 18, and was drafted into the imperial guard as part of the planetary tithe. So, with a shrug and many hugs goodbye; Brik joined the Moebian 21st, as a heavy weapons specialist; and resumed his job as the go-to problem solver. Unfortunately though; Brik's habit of disagreeing or disobeying his commanding officers to save squadmates, had him sent on a prison barge for insubordination and sedition.

Brik isn't a very big talker, but is a big listener and can have a basic grasp of otherwise very complicated concepts; and often gives very simple, direct but poignant advice to those who seek it.

"It's just better to say what ya think; even if it gets you kicked outta the guard. Simple as. No need for fancy words."

[rocky gale]

"Gunnar and his Oathbrand will be staking their claim on the Mortal Realms soon, but hang on… what are those shadowy shapes gathering on the horizon? Hurry back to the reveal hub before things get nasty here…" From the the new Dark Oath reveal page

Is it finally Shadow Aelves?

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

just more Stormcast

[celest dome]

Not like City of Sigmar hasn't got quite a good selection in the last year

[median stag]

I have a dumbass question lol. Can Salamanders be fine with an infiltrators squad? 🧐

Yes I'm fully aware of being better off with Aggressors, Bladeguard, Eradicators, Inceptors, Infernus, and Scout Squad's.

[rocky gale]

Is this a lore question or a Meta question?

[orchid lark]

no reason they wont have infiltrators

space marines can technically ReSpec

[rocky gale]

Like are you looking for a lore reason the Salamanders wouldn't have Infiltrators or a meta reason why you shouldn't use them on the tabletop as Salamanders

[median stag]

Thank you, ya just thought I'd ask 😅

[orchid lark]

Space Marines (of the codex variety) kinda have to learn all disciplines

[dusk patrol]

Some chapters focus more on one thing but mostly without exception there are elements of all those yeah

Obviously this depends and some do not use certain things but Sallies aren’t one of those who do it doesn’t matter

[rose thorn]

Besides the line refresh for humans?

[rose thorn]

sorry i responded to this right wheni woke up i ahve no clue what i read this as

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[celest dome]

In fairness the CoS only got Human refresh, the rest are still not really up to fresh

[tough haven]

So how did humanity travel and chart the galaxy before big E was interred in the golden throne to project the astronomican?

[rocky gale]

Short range jumps and smaller beacons I believe

Also warp storms weren't as bad or common before the age of Strife in M25 and the Birth of Slaanesh in M30

[tough haven]

They simply asked the Daemons for directions (they were friendlier back then)

Definitely real lore

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah Dilara i just Finished Da Big Dakka

Here's my review

• || the romance between the two dark elder was rather quite nice ||
• || and yeah they are not written well they literally almost ended the entire sector because they decided to kill each other||
  _ || it's a nice perspective to see what it's like for an ork to suddenly just become way too big and suddenly gain waay too much intellect||
• || Ulfthak absolutely decking the Mek Lord with the WWE move is crazy ||

[storm jungle]

Yeah that was NUTS lol

and yeah the book is good

[queen laurel]

And hey it also reminded me that somehow torturous elves get better game than I do

My God I am so lonely

[hollow moss]

im extremely new to 40k and want to get into the lore. any way to go about doing it? there an order to things?

[storm jungle]

Basically start with a basic introduction video watching by a 40k content creator, then pick a faction you like once you understood the basic universe and read books

[hollow moss]

there a book order?

[queen laurel]

no

there are beginner recommended ones but if you like you can pick what you want to read

[shadow plover]

1. Rogue Trader rule book
2. Everything else

[storm jungle]

Nah basically Gamesworkshop the creators of warhammer have a novel branch called Black Libray.

They make random novels once in awhile that focuses on different stories across the galaxy.

One could be about guardsman, or eldar, or orks, or necrons, or just random people in the Imperial sphere.

https://youtu.be/zPB3Q59vjR8

Start with this first

[hollow moss]

thats both cool and odd lmao. cool that you can just pick up any of the books and are good to go. odd that theres no coherent order in which what i would assume would help make a coherent timeline easier to understand

[storm jungle]

Yeah there IS a timeline

all of 40k takes place in the latest "date" in the setting

its also made so that anyone can pick a faction they like and enjoy them in their own sphere

its a tabletop game first so factionalism/likeness is encouraged

but theres a HEAVY imperial bias since they are the main human faction

[rocky gale]

It's because it's a general setting, so there are many different narratives and stories taking place throughout the Galaxy, there's no set read order for everything, but certain storylines and series will have their own read orders

[storm jungle]

^

[shadow plover]

it's filled with standalone stories in a shared universe

[rocky gale]

Like if you start reading Gaunts Ghosts series there's an order you're supposed to read those books in in, but their specific read order is completely unrelated and has no overlap at all to another book in the setting like the Infinite and the Divine.

[shadow plover]

speaking of infinte, Fabius Bile trilogy started to get good towards the latter half of the second book

[storm jungle]

I love how the author wanted to kill Bile at the end

sweet summer child 💀

[shadow plover]

haven't finished it yet

[storm jungle]

No like

he lives

he said it IRL

[shadow plover]

well of course

[storm jungle]

KEK

I appreciate the take but like yeah he prob should have known better

[queen laurel]

hey Dilara

Do you think Ulfthak is basically the Ciaphias cain of the orks

[storm jungle]

close id say

[hollow moss]

any recommended books to start with at least?

[shadow plover]

#40k-book-club has some good options in pinned messages

[hollow moss]

also where did you say they had all their books at? ill have to take a look

[queen laurel]

Black library is the website that distributes warhammer books

[storm jungle]

Basically that yeah, you buy books from the Black Library site

[queen laurel]

And it's safe to assume that for necrons it's Trazyn

[hollow moss]

awesome. I probably wont get into the tabletop but i really enjoy the setting and lore that i currently know so far

[storm jungle]

Yeah do not lmao

its a waste of money unless you really like miniatures

[queen laurel]

Getting into tabletop is not the easiest considering that you have to assemble the kits and paint them yourselves

some armies are ball bustingly expensive

[shadow plover]

it's a good game too

[storm jungle]

You're biased

fish react this nerd

[shadow plover]

[queen laurel]

Wait I thought he's like an Eldritch BLOB made out of like resin or something

[rocky gale]

It's a waste of money even if you do like Miniatures tbh, but it's either that or Fatshark cosmetics.

[storm jungle]

^

[queen laurel]

yeah the really good looking miniatures are quite the money beat down

[tough haven]

Tabletop sim is free

easy way to get into it

actually wait

its 10$

but way cheaper

[hollow moss]

i already own it because i had to use it for designing a base version of a card game

[tough haven]

Then you can play on there easily

[arctic talon]

I love plastic

[arctic talon]

GW put a fucking stompa in a value box

[queen laurel]

Holy shit

It's literally just a group of boyz a truck and then suddenly next to it is the Titan

[arctic talon]

Literally the best $ -> points box ever lmao

also a big mek

[shadow plover]

well we don't kwon the price yet do we

[arctic talon]

Battleforces are almost always the same like price tbf

[shadow plover]

true enough

[arctic talon]

the new big mek is a design

[shadow plover]

yeah it's very nice

[queen laurel]

next thing you know they would have something called like the

Beast WAAAAAAAGGGHHH Bundle and just have the gargantuan squiggoth on it

[arctic talon]

lol

If only it wasn't resin

also holy shit goffs not on the cover for once

wtf is up at GW

[queen laurel]

BLOOD AXE ORKZ ARE AT IT BOYZ

[queen laurel]

Yeah recently orks are getting a lot of attention

The new big dakka book

New models

you name it they are swinging this year

[arctic talon]

AoS stays winning

[queen laurel]

The alternate head looks Dead'ard

[rose thorn]

I like both tbh

H think I like the old one slightly more

[rocky gale]

How I imagine myself looking vs how I actually look.

[queen laurel]

if you want to go big mek with mega armor i think you have to go with this one

But I do prefer the exoskeleton look of the other one more

[rocky gale]

Overall I'd say it was a pretty mid reveal, we got like one new squad of AoS and then two new hero models for 40k. That's pretty much it

[arctic talon]

This is big mek with mega armor 🤓

Two dif units

[rose thorn]

Die

[rose thorn]

both are my type

[queen laurel]

Gnomes are in Bloodbowl now nobody gives a shit

[arctic talon]

new big mek is a replacment for these 2

[rocky gale]

I'm sure all 5 Bloodbowl players are very excited about that

[queen laurel]

i would miss that snotling launcher

[queen laurel]

yes

[arctic talon]

New one still has shokk attack gun at least

[rose thorn]

I want the ducks for cities

[queen laurel]

that's a goose you pink tyrannosaur

[rose thorn]

I don’t think it replaces the bug shokk gun one, from what I remember the big shokk one is pretty new

[celest dome]

What the f are those

[rose thorn]

I thought I was r6

[queen laurel]

my god i didn't even notice these were 40K with how bad they are

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[arctic talon]

holy shit those skins are ass lol

[rose thorn]

Art style clash to the max

[queen laurel]

i think that's supposed to be a scout marine

[arctic talon]

Its a scout

yeah

[queen laurel]

Yeah definitely a scout marine

[rose thorn]

Wiay is the top right one supposed to be a space marine

[rocky gale]

The Sister doesn't look awful

[arctic talon]

wait why is Makarov shirtless

lmao

[rose thorn]

The entire cross over looks like an Arma mod

[queen laurel]

Decent but her holding a modern day firearm doesn't do her much in that department

[rocky gale]

Oh god, I thought he was just wearing a low res Hawaiian shirt

[shadow plover]

man I fucking thought this was TF2 at first lmao

[arctic talon]

Don't insult ARMA like that

it looks way better most of the time

texture work on it is rough tbh

[queen laurel]

The general look of cod going forward that quite realistic approach does not lend well with 40K's choice of gothic grim dark

they are basically missing details that blend them better into 40K like dirt and grime

they look way too clean

[arctic talon]

I'm gona watch a space marine shank captain price while Homelander hits a 360 no scope in the back

with this we get closer to Fortnite 40k

[queen laurel]

Watching a space marine dance on Snoop Dogg music while absolutely decking Niki Minaj

[arctic talon]

no

I'm just saying like

40k fortnite skins

because I want to see a Marine do the default dance or something idk

my brains rotted

[queen laurel]

I will illegally apply to medical school just to save you at this point man

[green loom]

The skins look fine

[queen laurel]

Or I can just buy a jackhammer and some tape

and also a hacksaw

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rose thorn]

[arctic talon]

Oh boy

Another terrible AoS game

[celest dome]

What has AoS done to deserve that fate

[rose thorn]

Like chess and checkers, warhammer has turns

[rocky gale]

What the hell is auto chess?

[storm jungle]

💀

[queen laurel]

The world of mobile for warhammer games

[rocky gale]

Can you just autoresolve games of chess?

[rose thorn]

I’ll tell you if it’s good

[queen laurel]

it's not

[rose thorn]

Warpforge is pay to win hell, combat cards is balanced but repetitive

[queen laurel]

Trust me you will only wonder why you wasted your memory on such a soulless game

[orchid lark]

Is it a good autochess

I love TFT

[rose thorn]

And groups heresy it

[orchid lark]

Addicted to TFT

[rose thorn]

Horus heresy*

Is fine

[orchid lark]

Hmmm

[rose thorn]

Why is he smiling

[rocky gale]

He's hitting the 😏

[rose thorn]

Wiat a minute this is literally just that LoL game mode

One for one

I really like that game mode so tho

[queen laurel]

I told you

[arctic talon]

Is dota auto chess alive still

[humble shoal]

where in lore?

[rose thorn]

The warp

[spring cairn]

it's an angry marine too

so it's more like the fusion of 2 kind of brainrot

[humble shoal]

lol I missed the angry face

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

Lambda murdering with those facts 💀

[shadow plover]

the creator made it for their kid, which is kinda cute

[tough haven]

Mutated by the warps corrupting influence

[plush mason]

ngl the later and most recent episodes are way better than they have any right to be

skibidi toilet has gone from shitpost meme to a full on show by this point

lol

[wintry scarab]

How many marines that fought in the horus heresy are still alive in current day?

[green loom]

Not counting traitors?

[arctic talon]

Excluding dreadnoughts and traitors 0

including dreadnoughts

like prolly double digits at most

[green loom]

If that

[arctic talon]

if we include iron hand helfathers there's even more

[celest dome]

Wasn't Dante active at that time ?

[green loom]

It's probably just Bjorn

[arctic talon]

Dante wasn't

[celest dome]

Neat

[green loom]

Dante's like 2k

Little less

[arctic talon]

oh actually

there's a primaris

who was from HH era

but cawl nabbed him for experiments and shoved him into stasis lol

[green loom]

You mean Calder?

[arctic talon]

yeah

[green loom]

I think uhhh

Felix might count thne

Though I guess he was just a kid then

[arctic talon]

he said fought so

neither of them count ig

Chaos there's a fuck ton

of leftovers from the Heresy lol

[humble shoal]

arent there a couple in the collection

[arctic talon]

Do we count them?

Being in the collection practically means you're dead lol

[rose thorn]

[rocky gale]

I've reinstalled Overwatch, it is too late for me

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[rocky gale]

I cannot deny my hands their purpose, I must heal

[warm comet]

watching that astartes animation for the first time, it's awesome
The psykers are cool, but they dont kill anyone. Is there anything a strong-ish psyker could do to actually take down a marine?

[arctic talon]

A strong Psyker can just boil their blood

Or crush their skulls

Or melt them alive

The list continues

[rocky gale]

Are the Robo things Psykers?

I thought they were just xenos tech shit

[arctic talon]

The psykers in astartes were decently strong

But they weren’t like

Absurdly so

Prolly wyrdvane level approximately

[warm comet]

yeah, ig I dont really know how to gauge the strength of an average one

[rose thorn]

Space space marines

Astral Blades
Emperors stars
Imperial stars (one of those non existent chapters)
Knights of the Puprle star
Purple stars

[arctic talon]

Since they worked better in tandem

[rose thorn]

Ect ect

[storm jungle]

They are an invention by the creator, as stated by himself. They are nobles from the planet below who underwent specific biomechanical surgeries to awaken latent psychic powers. The Orb entities probably had something to do with it. Those spinal cords attached to their heads were part of the mechanism stimulating their psychic abilities.

[arctic talon]

Primaris battle psykers in the guard are known to like

melt tank columns

[warm comet]

in the video they basically just slow the marines down, one of the marine's lenses pops

[arctic talon]

They're trying to crush the marine

[rocky gale]

Oh nice

[storm jungle]

yeeee

[arctic talon]

but those psykers def arent' at the level of like

a battle psyker imo

still dangerous

but like

[warm comet]

can a psyker who's used in combat just like, snipe people's brains? lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah

like brain burst in game

[warm comet]

pretty metal

[arctic talon]

but faster

Psykers are absolutely horrifying lol

[warm comet]

so the ingame psyker is quite strong then
espescially at a higher level

[storm jungle]

For psyker power levels

[warm comet]

oh epic

[rocky gale]

A decently powerful Psyker could crush a Space Marine into a ceramite frisbee

[storm jungle]

Basically Imperial psykers are very limited in abilities to a degree because they only know what the Psyker schools teach them on Terra.

If you are a rogue psyker you can learn through "other" means but that depends on how you wanna go about it.

Psykers can basically almost have any ability the plot demands, the ones we see in general 40k media are just generic stuff like mind-reading and shooting lightning

[rocky gale]

What's this list for?

[warm comet]

ooh very cool

[arctic talon]

their homebrew I'm assuming

[rocky gale]

Ohhhh potential names?

[warm comet]

Was wondering if assail was based on anything lorewise, but ig psykers could do smth like that if they wanted then

[storm jungle]

Yeah it is

[rocky gale]

I thought you'd already settled on one

[arctic talon]

Assail is based on something

I forgot its name but it shows up