#40k-lore-chat

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dusk patrol
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Yeah

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Tbh there’s just a lot of hand waving

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Or maybe we are blessed by the Emperor

vale fjord
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Perhaps we are

dusk patrol
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But most of the normal dudes

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Definitely doable

arctic talon
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we are literally just built better

vale fjord
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Even then the emperor is watching through the seer pysker (not 100% sure)

dusk patrol
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Not in the numbers we fight this really but

arctic talon
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from a gameplay standpoint

dusk patrol
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In lower difficulty enemy density

dusk patrol
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Definitely

vale fjord
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I SAID NOT 100% SURE

green loom
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It's out

arctic talon
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what is

vale fjord
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HE KEEPS HINTING AT IT

dusk patrol
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It’s hard to say

arctic talon
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whoever his beloved is didn't let them go to Tzeentch's realm

green loom
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Part 2

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Traitor curse

arctic talon
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oh

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shit already

green loom
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Well no the teasers out

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It was Stimms btw KEKW_ogryn

arctic talon
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oh

vale fjord
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NOOO

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I mean

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YOO

arctic talon
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Whoever that woman was at the end

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shares the same VA as the Cadian

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either that or its a very similar voice

vale fjord
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Wolfer started a whole ass drug empire

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Because he can't beat some 4 crackhead ex prisoners

warm notch
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And even then thats not enough

storm jungle
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Narcos Arc lets gooo

warm notch
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We whip his troops so badly that they have to justify how badly they're getting whooped by saying we have the strength of 50 men

arctic talon
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I'm gona assume that was one of the Karnak twins

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at the end

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tbh

green loom
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It is

vale fjord
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Oh shiii

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Please tell me she survives and the Karnak twins just kidnaps her

vale fjord
warm notch
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The place where she grew up

urban spire
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finally we can truly become white girl wasted

warm notch
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Uh oh its time for some juicy character development

arctic talon
vale fjord
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So the Stimms would work as potions like in vt2

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This is gonna be so good

warm notch
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This time you inject them uwu

vale fjord
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DRUGS HELL YEA!

warm notch
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Rejects on their Junkie arc

urban spire
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IT'S DOME TIME

warm notch
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This is so based

vale fjord
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We can even be MORE CRACKHEADED

urban spire
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banging table
DOME
DOME
DOME

warm notch
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God I was so horrible at knowing when to use potions in Vermintide 2

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Hopefully this doesn't skew the balance too much

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To the point where we need to use stims

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I just suffer from a massive case of "skill issue" 😭

vale fjord
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Why tf did wolfer develop some narcotics knowing damn well our crackhead rejects would use them to be an even more crackhead reject KEKW_ogryn

urban spire
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well fortunately you can now work around your skill issue with drugs!

vale fjord
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Hell yea DRUGS

urban spire
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DROOGS

vale fjord
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Oh dear god I don't want to know what a drug fueled ogryn would do lore wise

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No hold on

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This just made me remember of a vid

arctic talon
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the drugs we're taking shouldn't even work on Ogryn lol

sleek wigeon
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so...
did I call it?

vale fjord
arctic talon
vale fjord
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NOW THAT WE CAN INJECT DRUGS NOW

arctic talon
warm notch
arctic talon
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For all we know she's off doing her own thing

warm notch
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Wolfer has familial ties with Zola lets goooo

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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she has like zero reasons to go chaos

arctic talon
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Drugs so strong you give a custodes a seizure

green loom
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It's like

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Blatant af

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That she has a score to settle

warm notch
dusk patrol
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She’s actually just trying to find his phone

arctic talon
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lol real

dusk patrol
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She left it in the torrent

soft thunder
storm jungle
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she obviously feels responsible

vale fjord
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A Jiminy crickets! Just one puff shouldn't hurt!

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I cant wait for the new darktide memes now that literal drugs are being implemented

soft thunder
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the darktide memes make me wish I rolled M judge sometimes, very memable character

storm jungle
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Yeah you should have no offense

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Male Judge is superb

green loom
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His VA helps that smilecat

storm jungle
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^

green loom
storm jungle
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out of the 36 VAs his is like one of the few that actually interacts with the community

dense salmon
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The reclaimers are straight up a joint force with the mechanicum

green loom
warm notch
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"Herb of Horus" kills me

storm jungle
dense salmon
warm notch
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He's coming back 😭

soft thunder
vale fjord
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I'm sticking with my agitator zealot

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I bet he even sounds more drug fueled with stimms

soft thunder
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lets huff tox gas and shoot some stimms

vale fjord
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Fude

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NO

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WAIT

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HOL ON

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Aw nvm

storm jungle
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those are power-weapon nodes

spring cairn
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powered chain axe

arctic talon
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power chain axe

storm jungle
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almost every weapon type has a power-weapon type

arctic talon
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Same applies to eviscerators

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except ours in game don't have the funny powerfield it seems

vale fjord
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I'd expect the power fists would be for ogryns only (obvious reasons)

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headcanon the zealots wouldn't even say a single word after injecting drugs in their veins

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Just gargles cuz they're already godamn crazy whatthefuck_heresy

storm jungle
spring cairn
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there's a guard mini with power fist

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so guess who's gonna get it

vale fjord
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I still say the ogryns

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It just suits them

viral halo
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Would love a power fist

vale fjord
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I'm gonna be having so much fun launching scab gunners in the air in the meat grinder

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I already have a fun time thunder hamering them now with a powerfist its gonna be even more funnier

dusk patrol
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Yeah evicerators with power fields tend to be more a SoB or marine thing

versed ledge
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Is there a power whip?

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Or power threaded cane from bloodborne

tulip sand
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Okay so you know how we have the 6th and the dregs (cultists?) Who we fight as ranged enemies

And then we also have the poxwalkers and infested.

Who are the melee guys in guard armor but without a helmet? You know what i am talking about?

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Like they have a mace

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Are those just cultists or poxers with scavenged armor or part of the 6th

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In the carnival update cutscene the 21st soldiers kill one of them in the initial fight

vale fjord
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Whar?

tulip sand
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Pic for reference

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Are those part of the 6th or na

vale fjord
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Huh

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Well

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Yea

storm jungle
vale fjord
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They are

storm jungle
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just melee burisers

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they literally wear the same outfit as them

vale fjord
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You can tell the difference between scab and dreg bruisers

tulip sand
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Yeah it just seemed kind of out of place for a guard regiment to have them tbh

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Maybe they lost their weapons

storm jungle
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I mean no?

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40k is all about melee and firefight combat

median marsh
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IG going melee isnt unusual

storm jungle
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^

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everyone in 40k does this

vale fjord
median marsh
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quite often its them getting charged too

tulip sand
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You would think they have enough melee with the cultists and poxers

storm jungle
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They arent exactly sane

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so you know

tulip sand
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No need to use trained soldiers there

soft thunder
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the scab bruiser might be a bit more mentally degraded by blight etc than other 6th shooters

storm jungle
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^

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If you uh

spring cairn
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they're a traitor regiment

median marsh
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they have a slight advantage with their armor

storm jungle
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spawn them in the meatgrinder with mods

spring cairn
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they don't have a supply line

storm jungle
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and look at their idle animations

spring cairn
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they get what they can get

storm jungle
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they swing their melee weapons around

celest dome
storm jungle
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looking bored

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and also constantly groaning

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they definitely wanna fight in melee

tulip sand
storm jungle
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also its 40k

tulip sand
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Yeah it id

storm jungle
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its not important

tulip sand
spring cairn
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yes but mostly means having troops without guns makes sense

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because gear is scarce

tulip sand
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Yeah i guess if they dont have enough guns

storm jungle
vale fjord
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^

storm jungle
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it doesnt make sense to us 21st century folk but its just how combat is fought in 40k

vale fjord
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There's no logic when they are already insane

storm jungle
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Pretty much.

tulip sand
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They seem to be on the saner side of chaos troops tho

storm jungle
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I mean yeah and the bruisers are not sane.

tulip sand
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Which is what abnett prefers imo

storm jungle
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Yeah but even the Blood Pact; which he wrote as a chaos regiment thats diciplined; still has insane people among them.

tulip sand
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Or sons of sek

storm jungle
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You cant exactly instill something like this constantly the more chaos influences your regiment.

green loom
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Also consider these Moebians are elites and fight in CQC/trenches a lot

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So not too big a stretch that they'd have a dedicated melee detachment

storm jungle
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Yeah their units showcase they do urban battles a lot.

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same reason why Maulers exist

tulip sand
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That would be the mauler/shotgunner/armored rager combo

urban spire
tulip sand
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I think also those guys appear in missions even when you fight dreg and not scav

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Scab

storm jungle
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They can appear anywhere as elites, its down to Director RNG

dusk patrol
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Also like it’s 40k

tulip sand
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I thought that part of the rng was using either scab or dreg units

dusk patrol
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Melee happens more than it should maybe but

storm jungle
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it can be mixed

dusk patrol
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It does happen

storm jungle
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Also yeah lol

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half the reason 40k uses melee hybrid combat is because theres so many combatants, and sometimes rushing people with melee is superior to firearms

urban spire
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"more than it should"?

dusk patrol
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There’s roles in the guard for melee specialist dudes

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Like brawlers

urban spire
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am i missing some context?

tulip sand
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Yeah i know that i just thought that those guys seemed to stick out from the rest of themorbians

storm jungle
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They fit right in tbh

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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they just have more spikes, thats about it

dusk patrol
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In my 40k

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Smh

arctic talon
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Odds are the maulers used to use guns as well lol

tulip sand
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Not complaining

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I was just asking but got sassed and baited a bit

storm jungle
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...No?

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literally none of us baited you my dude

urban spire
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you can get away with walking into melee in a gunfight when you've got chaos backing you up

dusk patrol
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Too late, I cast razzle dazzle on you

storm jungle
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We just said its how 40k is and you said it makes no sense, thats about it.

storm jungle
tulip sand
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But yeah i was just asking if they were part of the morbians or no

urban spire
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i definitely like the scabs more than the dregs though

tulip sand
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Scabs are the nvg guys

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?

urban spire
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yep

storm jungle
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All Scabs are Moebians

tulip brook
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I hate them. I start shooting my teammates when they are around

tulip sand
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Brah the nvgs are def showing them some weird chaos shit instead of working properly

tulip brook
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they are black, my team is black. everything is a target

urban spire
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that's not the scabs fault that's your teammates' fault for looking like scabs

tulip sand
arctic talon
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The new zealot set

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Become the scab stalker

vale fjord
tulip sand
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SNIPER GUYS SNIPER

storm jungle
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If I wanted Dregs id walk down to street to my nearest homeless shelter

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oh wait

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💀

dense salmon
urban spire
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i'm pretty sure the nvgs are working normally, it's just light amp not heat

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except for the sniper who just shoots you through smoke

tulip sand
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One of them has a goatee too

tulip sand
urban spire
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"SMOKE OUT" said the guardsman
"lol" said the sniper
"lmao"

dense salmon
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Does the sniper have any actual voice lines?

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All I ever hear are the footsteps

arctic talon
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They don’t have voicelines

urban spire
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they make a noise like a distant thunderstorm when they spawn as a squad

arctic talon
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They have a sound effect tho

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When they spawn in enmass

urban spire
storm jungle
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Their sound effects are basically their dogtag jingles

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and the uh

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"ARGH/AUGH" when you push them

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thats about it KEKW_ogryn

tulip sand
urban spire
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they make a funny pop noise when you brain burst them

dense salmon
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Bullying snipers should be law

arctic talon
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But they’re fresh converts

urban spire
dense salmon
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Whenever you see a sniper shove them until they die

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Also I finally heard the fucking

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Scan gunner go BLBRBLRRLB

tulip sand
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So they added more material for spikes and stuff

storm jungle
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Yeah the spikes on their outfits are makeshift, if you look close you can see that their are welded on.

dense salmon
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Like he was giving a raspberry

storm jungle
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its a very realistic touch that i like

tulip sand
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Ohh

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Theyre larping

green loom
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Remember when there was a chaos entity of spikes

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To explain why chaos stuff was spiky

arctic talon
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They’re making themselves look eviler

storm jungle
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I love it

urban spire
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idk, the moebian 6th has a pretty legitimate grudge

tulip sand
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their gas masks are actually connected

dense salmon
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Yeah their lore is just all quiet on the western front

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They come home and nobody really cares because they have no idea how bad their deployments were

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Due to that information being suppressed and layered in propaganda

tulip sand
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Women gave them the white feather

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That would have been it even for me man that shit was crazy

storm jungle
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the 6th also genuinely think they are liberating their homeworld

urban spire
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fuck that free pillow stuffins

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they are

arctic talon
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That’s what makes them fun

arctic talon
urban spire
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:)

tulip sand
urban spire
tulip sand
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I can imagine something similar but extreme occured for the morbians

dense salmon
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I highly recommend all quiet on the western front (the book, the movie is kind of bad imo)

urban spire
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i read the book

arctic talon
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Actually I just realized the Moebian 6ths armor is meant to be atoman steel

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Or at least maybe?

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Idk

urban spire
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carapace armour is just Like That

tulip sand
dense salmon
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Fun fact

tulip sand
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Honestly im stoked that we have 21st armor actually, theyre basically marines iirc

dense salmon
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The book was written as an anti-war political message during the prelude to ww2

urban spire
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i used to read a lot of ww1 and 2 novels, then i found out all the "woe is me" stuff from the wermacht was bullshit, got pretty disgusted with myself and lost interest in the genre

dense salmon
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The nazi party wanted to execute the author

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But he had fled the country

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So they BEHEADED his entire family instead

urban spire
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holy shit

green loom
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@storm jungle guess who people think the female voice at the end of the teaser is KEKW_ogryn

green loom
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No

tulip sand
urban spire
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me :)

green loom
urban spire
green loom
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Yes

storm jungle
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god fuck off

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💀

dense salmon
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A novel from the perspective of the actual soldiers is kind of a sad thing to read

shadow plover
dense salmon
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ESPECIALLY as far as ww1 is concerned

dusk patrol
storm jungle
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^

dense salmon
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Even if it's the wehrmacht

storm jungle
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WW1 was prob the most pointless conflict in history too so

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im glad krieg fans glorify it instead

dusk patrol
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Ok but we did get battlefield 1 out of it

storm jungle
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SHUT UP

dusk patrol
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So I’d say it’s an even trade

arctic talon
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LOL

tulip sand
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Thats "its genestealers" tiers of delusion

green loom
arctic talon
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It’s not even the same VA as Zola

urban spire
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slams table
BATTLEFIELD 1 WAS GOOD

arctic talon
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I think

dusk patrol
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I liked it

green loom
urban spire
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o

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i'm so controversial

green loom
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The accent, and tone and everything is different

dusk patrol
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Wasn’t realistic but who cares

tulip sand
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Sounds more like a chav than one of our mates innit

dusk patrol
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If I wanted a realistic WW1 game I’d play dysentery simulator

storm jungle
urban spire
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i love that they put in the stupid heavy as shit watercooled smg from back when nobody knew how to design guns

green loom
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I didn't

urban spire
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yeah i was being ironic

tulip sand
green loom
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I think all battlefields after BF2 sucked

dense salmon
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Blame napoleon and the congress of vienna for ww1

storm jungle
shadow plover
tulip sand
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Last battlefield game i fully played went off to uni after that

green loom
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Hey I committed blasphemy first

shadow plover
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and I even went to a tournament in sweden to play it

green loom
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Where's my execution

shadow plover
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After 1 I kinda lost interest in the whole series

tulip sand
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Well bf1 sucked for competitive play

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But for casual/immersion it was good and thats why people love it

storm jungle
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Battlefield is literally dead

urban spire
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battlefield games aren't very good competitively

tulip sand
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What a time to be alive

shadow plover
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Well it wasn't like an esports tournament, more of a casual thing overall

crisp heath
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I just mod rimworld to fit any hypothetical situation I could possibly want and play almost nothing else

urban spire
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2042 or whatever was fun for a while with the wingsuit, loved that

shadow plover
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but 2142 was peak battlefield

dense salmon
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Battlefield 1 still has a pretty active community

crisp heath
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Oh wow I only have like 500 hours but I also just bought it a few months ago

dense salmon
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But you're dealing with people who pilot trenchfighters like actual great war aces

urban spire
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i played the alpha lol

tulip sand
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I tried to remake the ussr but it turned out rather poorly

crisp heath
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I didn't have a steam until like 2 years ago tho, and then I had a friend who played videogames so I got it to play with her

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I've heard a bunch about rimworld... unfortunately I'm not on PC and xbox doesn't get access to those mods. And that seems to be what all the hype for rimworld is for

green loom
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Base game is... fine

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I enjoy it kinda

urban spire
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yeah rimworld is a certified best with mods banger

crisp heath
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Base game is great, it's just not perfect

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But with mods you fine tune it down to perfection

urban spire
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in fact i happen to have my mod manager open right now

dusk patrol
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Even if it’s wrong

crisp heath
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Ideology is only worth buying with mods tho

dense salmon
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I will once again recommend space station 13 to people who enjoy rimworld

crisp heath
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Lordy 155 mods lol

tulip sand
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How do you not instantly ctd

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Modpack?

crisp heath
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Uh I have like 50 mods active at any time but I'm subscribed to about 250

urban spire
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i used to be an admin on one of the bigger ss13 servers a long time ago

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like, the better part of a decade

dense salmon
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Which one?

dusk patrol
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All those boob mods add up

dense salmon
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I probably played on it

urban spire
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tgstation

dense salmon
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Yeah

crisp heath
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I play on goonstation occasionally but I like ss13 far less than rimworld

urban spire
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i was in my early 20s, i was cringe

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if you remember me, don't

tulip sand
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Honestly if you want a fun game with mods and you like the theorycrafting type of thing i like mechwarrior 5

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V good with mods

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V mid without

urban spire
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i'd rather play the xcom version

crisp heath
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I used to be big into dwarf fortress and i loved making a large, well-defended fort

urban spire
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battletech

crisp heath
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Then going into adventure mode

urban spire
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dwarf fortress owns

crisp heath
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Since the ai couldn't operate my traps I would solo my entire fort

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Turn all my hard work into a charred husk

dense salmon
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I played a lot on tg, fulpstation, and CM

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I got really into it my senior year of high-school and college

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I quit playing 3 years ago because I got a girlfriend

urban spire
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i'm not familiar with fulp and CM

dense salmon
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Unironically

tulip sand
dense salmon
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Cm is awesome, I actually miss it

tulip sand
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Like taking a really shit mech and making it the millenium falcon

crisp heath
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Is battletech the one that became a meme recently because a dev confirmed the robots can get pregnant

urban spire
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i actually started dating one of the coders from tgstation lol

dense salmon
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But I would play ss13 for a while because an average round is like 2 hours

tulip sand
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Turn based doesnt fit the mech genre for me

urban spire
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we're still together

dense salmon
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And although she didn't say anything I could tell she wanted my attention

tulip sand
dense salmon
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So I stopped playing ss13 and chose to play things she and I could enjoy together

urban spire
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lmao no not quite

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i just naturally lost interest in ss13 over time

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unfortunately the curse of 40k has stayed with me

vagrant fox
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I miss tgstation, I never learnt anything become something stupid would kill me every time. Just mopping the floor when a monkey flies through the area

crisp heath
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Painting warhammer is the peak of "pulling girls by being autistic"

tulip sand
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This game made me take a serious interest in 40k, like i knew about it casually but since october 2022 i got rly into it

urban spire
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she is actually the autistic girl who paints warhams in the relationship

tulip sand
urban spire
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i'm the useless disaster who fights people on the internet

tulip sand
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I have yet to finish a mini tho

dense salmon
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Cm was my favorite server because of my revolver ocelot larp

crisp heath
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I wake up honeys at 2 am to show them pictures of my plastic army men

vagrant fox
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I should acquire a partner so they can paint the titans I want, good idea

tulip sand
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Tbh im worried that if i take it to a tournament ill get shat on for how bad my paintjob is

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Uhh guys they were in a warpstorm and it changed them

dense salmon
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My girlfriend likes 40k a lot after I've introduced it to her

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Like every new 40k fan she likes death korps a lot

tulip sand
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Mine likes the corruption part like the unsettling/gross horror of say the eldar

dense salmon
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She likes the orks a lot too

dusk patrol
dense salmon
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Orks are easily her favorite faction

tulip sand
crisp heath
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I mean, how can you not like the Kriegerz.

tulip sand
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Cringers

dusk patrol
dense salmon
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Theyre cool and all but they're so saturated they've become vanilla

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Same with cadians

urban spire
dense salmon
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Catachans would be up there too if they actually got some decent models

tulip sand
dusk patrol
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Losers can be likable

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Also like

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They look cool

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To a lot of people

tulip sand
dusk patrol
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Not my personal favorite but

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It’s not complex why people like them

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Gas masks and trench coats are cool

urban spire
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yeah they're stylish

crisp heath
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Bro.... lol like nah. Kriegers have a dope story... A culture of death built on ancestral guilt? Redeeming honor in the emperors name with unyielding, generally tactically stupid all out pushes?

urban spire
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can't take that away from them

crisp heath
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I'd paint krieg but I have a phobia of masks rip

tulip sand
crisp heath
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They're badass

tulip sand
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Definitely not wehraboos

urban spire
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kriegers are bad at war and ruin everyone else's morale

dusk patrol
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The fandom around them can be insufferable sometimes but that’s neither here nor there

crisp heath
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Lol very but I still love my gas maskies

dense salmon
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Yeah the kriegers are cool they're just one of those regiments people are tired of seeing

crisp heath
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They are a bit over represented

urban spire
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although i must say

crisp heath
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That I heavily agree on

urban spire
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a krieger beating something with a shovel is very funny to watch

green loom
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"fan"base

dense salmon
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I dont think any fan will get sick of a krieger smacking something over the head with a shovel or grenade

green loom
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Since most of them know nothing about them KEKW_ogryn

dense salmon
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I like all regiments tbh

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I just like the guard

tulip sand
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I havent looked at the rules but is it possible to make your own guard regiment and you can pick traits etc for them?

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To make it unique?

dense salmon
urban spire
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i love the guard, i just can't stand the vast majority of it

crisp heath
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"Bluh bluh bluh kreig doesn't fight with shovels" silence, or I will call Hans to silence you

tulip sand
#

I only have the starter kit with nids and ultramarines

dense salmon
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Cadians are the pretty default guard in terms of codex rules

crisp heath
#

I think I would if we'd get as much info on other regiments as we have the kriegers. Unfortunately most regiments stories are told as basically "they all went here and most died" type thing lol

tulip sand
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I think the first army i will make is morbian 21st

wet sandal
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morbius

dense salmon
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MORBSWEEP

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I'd love seeing the older regiments get more love

urban spire
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i want

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a 40k game about all the fighter planes

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not just the ork ones

safe vigil
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snt there Aeronautica?

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Lmao more like was

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Take control of the war for air supremacy in the 41st millennium.Aeronautica Imperialis: Flight Command propels the excitement of the Warhammer 40,000 universe into the stratosphere in a richly detailed aerial combat game.Enter the arena of tactical airborne warfare like never before as you launch into the war-torn skies of the 41st Millennium. ...

Recommendations

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▶ Play video
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You can't buy it anymore

urban spire
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bummer

shadow plover
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They discontinued it this year

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You could probably find some models on eBay or similar, rules are probably floating around

dense salmon
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But uh

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I dont judge people on what they like in 40k

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40k is for everybody

urban spire
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anyway someone mentioned painting models earlier

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and the joke is very cold by now but

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there

arctic talon
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They’re in indexhammer rn

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And they’re all using the generic guard ability

crisp heath
#

And that sounds terrifying

shell barn
#

How fucked are you, as a Guardsman. If Sisters show up

desert dust
#

Just depends sisters have mad corruption resistance and hospitals so maybe you gonna live

green loom
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If you answer the opposite to either, you will be torn to shreds

crisp heath
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@shell barn not fucked at all. The guardsmen adore the sisters. The sisters are generally the only ones giving out medical treatments, and are a massive boost to morale usually

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But yea, like @green loom said. If you ain't being the soldier they expect out of you, you'll get the commodore treatment.

arctic talon
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Also yeah having actual good medical care is a pretty good morale boost

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Hospitallers are generally worried about saving lives

crisp heath
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I meant like... good field medicine not from a medicae servitor or waiting for a ripperdoc off field.

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Cause I guess technically they provide medicine too

green loom
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The hospitaller taking care of you also might not be as much of an insane schizo as the battle drilled fighters

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Still a schizo but their job doesn't require violent screaming

crisp heath
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Lol facts

arctic talon
#

Tbh they prolly got better medicine then what the guard gets normally

crisp heath
#

It's more about the expertise and having that human touch I think

green loom
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The kicker is they can probably actually perform proper surgery and stuff on you

arctic talon
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Only issue is it’s prolly with a narthicium lol

crisp heath
#

Vs a medicae servitors bedside manners or a ripperdocs well... learned knowledge lol

arctic talon
#

Most terrifying looking medical tool in existence

green loom
#

Okay this gives me an idea for a homebrew order

dusk patrol
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Not the gentlest but

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she knows what she’s doing

crisp heath
#

Bet it feels a lot better then the other two options too

dusk patrol
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Well you can always just die

crisp heath
#

Also I mean, pretty nurse nun with gun? Yes please

dusk patrol
crisp heath
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What am I looking at?

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I mean it's dope, I'm just curious

dusk patrol
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Imperial Fist apothecary extracting geneseed

crisp heath
#

Ahhhhh

dusk patrol
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And taking out the trash

crisp heath
#

Pfft

dusk patrol
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Probably deemed the marine too wounded to continue on

crisp heath
#

I mean.... yea

dusk patrol
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So they extract and give him the Emperor’s Mercy

crisp heath
#

He's missing half his face and an arm

dusk patrol
#

Tbf that’s

crisp heath
#

Not to mention what's likely happened to his lower body

dusk patrol
#

Very survivable marines but yeah he’s probably super fucked up

crisp heath
#

I don't think that's his face, it looks like his helmets fine and had to be removed. I think that's the emperor mercy on his neck.

#

You might be right

dusk patrol
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Oh yeah that’s what it is

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It’s his geneseed

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Being removed

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One is below the neck

crisp heath
#

Or more gruesome: the apothecary hasn't done anything yet, the head just stayed in the helmet when he took it off

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Lol that sounds the most 40k

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"Let's just tilt the helmet on ba... well that works I guess." cocks extractor

dusk patrol
#

Another example

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Although marines can survive extraction but

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It’s not recommended still lol

crisp heath
#

I thought they couldn't? I'd never seen it represented, but I always thought it was pretty integral to them

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Or at least one was...

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Idk I'm not 100 percent sure

dusk patrol
#

They grow one extra which is harvested when they’re fairly young

crisp heath
#

There's been some marines who had their geneseed extracted and completely replaced

dusk patrol
#

Also the first grey knights

crisp heath
#

Like the original Grey knights

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Oh

dusk patrol
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It requires immediate medical attention and good care but yeah

crisp heath
#

@crisp heath what happens when it's replaced? Like, what happens if say a ultramarine gets a salamander gene seed?

dusk patrol
#

Also uh, the Meros the apothecary extracts his own

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And gives it to someone before he sacrifices himself

crisp heath
#

But I thought he sacrificed himself because he knew he'd die anyway?

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Spoilers for Spears of the Emperor (again)

||Amadeus had his geneseed swapped when he became a Primaris, converting to the Emperor's Spears from the Mentors||

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And that was just him making preperations?

crisp heath
dusk patrol
crisp heath
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As far as I know, in his case, he didn't really show any genetic changes but those are two very "neutral" geneseeds

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@dusk patrol right right

dusk patrol
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And he knew of it because his geneseed descendent formed a connection with him through time

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Which is also why he made sure to extract his and give it to someone

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To complete the loop

dire apex
#

How much psychic capability did the first grey knights gain when they got the new seed if any? Because iirc most of the original circle of grey knights were not psychers

dusk patrol
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Not clear but they seemed powerful

crisp heath
dusk patrol
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Also a lot were psykers already

crisp heath
#

@crisp heath fair. Lol so what would happen if it wasn't so neutral? Could a blond hair pretty boy blood angel become melanated and grow scales if they swapped to a salamander gene seed? Would they lose the black rage?

dusk patrol
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Most gks aren’t like super powerful to be clear too

crisp heath
#

I'm not sure if that's ever happened but I think Grey Knights are the best example for a geneseed swap

dusk patrol
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They combine their power in squads

dire apex
#

Right,

green loom
dire apex
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The main priority for a grey knight candidate isn’t psychic power it’s stability but I was curious just how capable the emperor’s gene seed is, like if it could turn the non psychic psychic

crisp heath
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I'm pretty sure all Grey knights become psykers if they weren't one before

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Yes. But it doesn't for everyone. And no, the Grey knights don't become psychers, they must be already. It is a pretty major part of them being recruited

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You must be a psycher to hope to drive out a demon

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Which is an integral part of their training, being possessed and forcibly exercising the daemon from themselves

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I thought only the Exorcists did that and Grey Knight training was different?

dire apex
#

Of course you also have to be useful and able to assist in a casting of the Holocaust spell, since afaik that’s the only tool gks have for permanent demon killing

crisp heath
#

All Grey knights have to do that

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The exorcists are the ones who specialize in it

green loom
#

First I've heard of it

crisp heath
#

That was my understanding

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I could be wrong

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Exorcists also aren't all psykers as far as I know, that's just a will check a sufficiently stable person can do it

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But exercising a Daemon to my understanding was a part of every Grey Knights initial training.

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Exorcists are an entirely different chapter from Grey Knights, they're nominally IF successors but are probably chimeric (cursed founding go brrrr)

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As far as I was aware you either had to be psycher or null to do it.

green loom
#

Then lol

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Cus exorcists are mostly a normal chapter

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With non psyker marines

crisp heath
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To exercise it from yourself. You had to be one or the other. Idk if the exorcist do it by themselves. I really don't know much about that chapter

dire apex
#

Either way you have to be a Psyker to be a gk, couldn’t use 90% of their weapons otherwise

crisp heath
#

But for the Grey Knights that was my understanding

green loom
#

Yeah I don't see any reference to this for GK

dusk patrol
#

That’s the Exorcists

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The GKs have extremely tough training but that’s not part of it

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Exorcist have a specific purpose for letting themselves be possessed

green loom
#

It sounds cool

crisp heath
#

Exorcists have to let themselves be possessed because they arent psykers

dusk patrol
#

They do have psykers

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Who do the same thing

green loom
#

These will be my exorcists

crisp heath
#

Yeah they have librarians but they're mostly a normal chapter

dire apex
#

The grey knight equivalent would be the Paladin process, doesn’t involve letting yourself being possessed but it does require hunting down and single handedly killing one of the 1000 strongest demons in the galaxy

dusk patrol
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An example of a Deathwatch one

green loom
#

Pooladins

dusk patrol
#

But yeah they get possessed and use that to hide their souls in a clone body

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Which makes them effectively “soulless” in the field

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Which in turn makes them insanely effective against daemons, psykers, and anything warp related

crisp heath
#

Ah I was under the impression it was purely to resist the warp

dusk patrol
#

Plus they’re trained to fight that stuff

dusk patrol
green loom
dusk patrol
#

Not really but in effect it is

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Well Lucius is sword guy

dire apex
#

It is funny how gw made the 40k clone of grail knights have a name that rhymes

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And named the start of them the Knights Errant

green loom
#

Very Gay Knights

crisp heath
#

Introducing my homebrew chapter, the Night Knights. They're sleepy boys who kill daemons in their dreams.

nocturne crest
crisp heath
#

Look, I know I read that somewhere, and it's in multiple lore videos. It's not just the exorcists. The Grey Knights one hundred percent do it during their training too. I'll look for source material, wiki is failing as usual and doesn't mention their training at all except the memory wipe.

dire apex
#

Try the leutin videoKEKW_ogryn

crisp heath
#

Leutin is usually pretty good, I just pass out half way through his vids lol

nocturne crest
#

Do Death Korps of Kreig have their own Primaris Psykers?

green loom
#

I've genuinely never heard of GK doing the possession thing

green loom
crisp heath
#

It's even in multiple reddit of people talking about it

green loom
#

reddit

crisp heath
#

They just don't have sources so I don't wanna use it

plush mason
#

its part of their 666 trials

crisp heath
plush mason
#

and one of the most important iirc

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because you ether expell the daemon or die

green loom
#

There we go

dusk patrol
plush mason
#

the end result is they are fully immune to demonic possession

dusk patrol
#

I know they learn about exorcisms and stuff

green loom
crisp heath
dusk patrol
crisp heath
#

I'm still looking for an actual source

dusk patrol
#

Mostly when their psychic power gets cut off

green loom
#

Most of anything you'll find is probably from Emperor's Gift

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Or the codex

dusk patrol
#

They use their power as a very very strong shield from corruption

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On top of their gear

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But idk, maybe it’s mentioned

#

I don’t ever recall that though

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Only the Exorcists

plush mason
#

as i said its part of the GK's 666 trials

dusk patrol
#

It’s especially weird because it wouldn’t make sense why the GKs wouldn’t use it the same way the exorcists do

plush mason
#

and afaik the only way to become immune to demonic possesion is to be possesed and drive the daemon out of yourself

dusk patrol
#

And yes the Exorcists have Librarians who do it too

plush mason
#

idk then

dusk patrol
#

The Exorcists technically even aren’t they’re just very well hidden

grave sparrow
#

Only blanks are technically immune to posession right?

crisp heath
#

That's because the grey knights are better.... they are literally immune

dusk patrol
#

They’re not

crisp heath
#

None have ever been corrupted

dusk patrol
#

But they’re extremely resistant

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And yes none have been corrupted

plush mason
dusk patrol
#

There’s multiple books where they’re at risk of it for various reasons but it never happens

grave sparrow
#

Isn't there one GK constantly resisting possession from a daemon sword?

crisp heath
#

No, they literally are immune. They can't be possessed again

dusk patrol
#

They aren’t dude

storm jungle
#

Lets not forget that one book where Erebus somehow put a daemon in a blank 💀

dusk patrol
#

Like idk where you heard this but it’s wrong

crisp heath
#

Show me one example of a gk being possessed after training?

storm jungle
#

Yeah but its still dumb

storm jungle
#

fucking Eresus

dusk patrol
#

I should say

crisp heath
#

Lol it's known that grey knights are immune

dusk patrol
#

It’s not impossible

storm jungle
#

yeah just hard

dusk patrol
#

There’s also gravels

dusk patrol
#

Read a GK book

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They’re not

#

They’re just super well trained and resistant

crisp heath
#

Show me one example of one being possessed

dusk patrol
#

They’re still vigilant for it

storm jungle
#

Basically to act as the mediator between you two

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Its less being posessed

grave sparrow
#

just because they haven't been possessed doesn't mean they can't be

dusk patrol
#

^

storm jungle
#

its more that under VERY extreme influence

crisp heath
#

Well till it happens, it kinda does

dusk patrol
#

Thats why Castellan Crowe has to use the sword

storm jungle
#

for example Castellan Crowe's sword is so demonic and chaotic influence wise other GK actually get tired of being near it in prolonged periods

dusk patrol
#

The others are at risk

storm jungle
#

jinx lol

#

Also yeah the codex makes it clear the sword almost can drive the GKs near him in long periods insane.

dusk patrol
#

Also the third Ben Counter GK book has one be at risk of it

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When he gets his psyker powers cut off by a blank effect basically

plush mason
#

but that isnt direct possesion that is just the daemon twisting their mind

dusk patrol
#

He doesn’t fall but he is at actual risk

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Yes and I’m saying

#

This dude was concerned about being possessed and corrupted

#

They’re not immune, they’ve just never fallen, that doesn’t make them immune

crisp heath
#

What nameless said. and it doesn't matter where the immunity comes from. If it's an affect of their psychic abilities after being possessed doesn't matter. It's still immunity. Just means it has a weakness to blanks, which daemons can never be

dusk patrol
#

It just means it hasn’t happened yet, they’re vigilant about it

#

Yeah I’m just….im done

grave sparrow
dusk patrol
#

Whatever

#

Also blanks can be possessed it just takes a lot of effort, I misspoke earlier

#

Graels are an example of that

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And Spear of course

grave sparrow
crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

I guess it’s impossible for a suit to ever be removed

crisp heath
#

In every other scenario I'm invulnerable

dusk patrol
#

No one said “it’s likely they will be possessed” or “it’s easy to”

#

We simply said they can

crisp heath
#

By a Daemon? Yea. It's impossible because they can never be blanks

dusk patrol
green loom
#

They're not immune, they're stupid resistant

storm jungle
#

Guys if you arent gonna agree may as well change subject.

#

Nobody wants to strangle the other here

dusk patrol
#

As long as everyone knows I’m right

crisp heath
#

Lol

dusk patrol
grave sparrow
#

I like how 90% of the arguements in this server are over small differences in verbage lol

storm jungle
#

hes joking

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

Anyways

green loom
#

It's like wearing bullet proof armour
It'll protect you sure
But a 50 cal will still disembowel you

dusk patrol
#

Hector Rex

#

The man, the myth, the Mary Sue

#

But I love him

#

Great design

grave sparrow
#

Oh nah there was one in general a week ago about "armadillos carry leprosy, but they're immune"

"Nuh uh, they're just asymptomatic"

"nuh uh"

storm jungle
#

what in the fuck

grave sparrow
#

it went on for like 2 hours

dusk patrol
#

That’s dumb

grave sparrow
#

it was glorious

storm jungle
#

I wish you tagged us 💀

dusk patrol
#

They don’t carry it, they’re infected by it smh

grave sparrow
#

yall would've shut that down, it was funny

dusk patrol
#

I sure hope those guys feel dumb

crisp heath
#

There hasn't been a 50 cal like that yet in Warhammer. And again, the only feasible way is if we add a blank to the mix. And daemons can't be and don't work with blanks. So it just can never really happen. For all intents and purposes this weakness in their invulnerability is void

viral halo
#

we arguing about armadillos again?

storm jungle
#

the only possible way right

#

is if the author said so

dusk patrol
#

Ugggghhhh

green loom
storm jungle
#

GOTTEM

dusk patrol
#

Just stoooooopppp

storm jungle
#

Remember when the End and the Shit Vol1 came out

#

and everyone went nuts

#

because horus controlled the custodes

crisp heath
#

@storm jungle I said feasible dammit lol. We know authors rarely use logic!

viral halo
#

Do you think chicken tenders and fries still exists in the grim darkness of the far future

green loom
#

Also I'm trying to recall
But I kinda sorta remember an androgynous living saint

plush mason
dusk patrol
viral halo
#

I wonder if Horus would have enjoyed the wendy's biggie bag

dusk patrol
#

Cause that’s like the most powerful warp event ever

#

And still half of them resisted

storm jungle
dusk patrol
#

And the others were puppeted

grave sparrow
#

it's always more interesting when incorruptable characters end up having a flaw

dusk patrol
#

Tbh

#

I hear way more about custodes fans being upset

viral halo
dusk patrol
#

Than I see them

storm jungle
#

They exist trust me

dusk patrol
#

I’m sure but

green loom
#

They were all fully resisting a literal premature god's direct control with nothing but will and some of them even managed it

dusk patrol
#

The amount people talk about them seems to outpace the supply

crisp heath
#

Super insecure in our leather thongs and oiled skin

grave sparrow
crisp heath
#

Guard fans be like: I need a quarter of my favorite regiment to die, another quarter to get possessed, and another quarter to try and desert (their ship is shot from orbit before they can escape)

storm jungle
#

You should have seen when the GSC/Custodes box was coming out.

the AMOUNT of people salting that GSC could kill custodes was crazy

#

then in the book a custodian gets decapitated by a mining laser

viral halo
storm jungle
#

or gets crushed by debris

#

KEK

#

LOVE IT

dusk patrol
#

I just get tired of people feeling the need to shit on each others factions

green loom
#

Me when mining laser used to mine auramite goes through auramite GergShocked

crisp heath
#

And also probably speaks to our inner turmoil

grave sparrow
storm jungle
viral halo
#

guard and ork fans are usually still chill

#

space marine fans get so fucking annoying whiny sometimes

#

no offense

dire apex
#

Ah yes genestealer claws, the folded one morbillion times katana of 40k

green loom
#

IW/IF are a unique mix of the most boring people liking the most irrelevant factions in the setting

storm jungle
dusk patrol
grave sparrow
#

As an Imperial Fists fan, yes

green loom
#

The most imperial Fist character ever do is die

plush mason
grave sparrow
#

I just like yellow

green loom
#

Except if they're the 1st captain

green loom
#

Who gets others to die instead of him

dusk patrol
#

I like custodes cause mostly all their books are great

#

With like one exception

crisp heath
storm jungle
#

Eh the stuff they die to is usually very feasible.

dusk patrol
#

Mostly they keep their “power level” fine so idc

storm jungle
#

Its either getting overwhelmed or stuff that penetrates auramite

crisp heath
#

This is also true

green loom
#

I think custodes look pretty dumb and bad, interesting lore though

viral halo
#

the most level headed fans are people still running death watch and inquisition armies

#

this may or not be me

storm jungle
#

LMAO

grave sparrow
storm jungle
#

Inquisition Army

#

remember that

#

💀

dusk patrol
#

Inquisition army?

#

Hah

green loom
#

You mean Imperial Agents?

storm jungle
#

wow

green loom
storm jungle
#

hitting em where it hurts

dusk patrol
#

Now whose coping

viral halo
dire apex
#

No he obviously means 50 inquisitors as a whole field force

green loom
#

This message brought to you by unpainted intercessor gang

dusk patrol
#

Me, running an Inquisiton army (It’s a Imperial Guard army with a Vindicare and a Inquisitor)

viral halo
#

I have so many Imperial Agents models

crisp heath
viral halo
#

remember when they had their own codex

#

IT HURTS

#

IT HURTS ME

crisp heath
#

Lolol

dusk patrol
#

Maybe one day

viral halo
#

I HAVE KNIGHTS

#

INQUISITORS

#

RETINUES

#

IT HURTS

dusk patrol
#

I’ve always thought they could just let you use like more elite mix of different Imperium forces

#

Maybe even some xenos ones

#

And make a few more models

dire apex
#

Just use some scions and it’s basically the same thing

dusk patrol
#

Basically

#

Like you could run Scions

#

Some marines

#

Deathwatch

dire apex
#

Maybe a grey knight here and there

crisp heath
#

I don't really do tabletop, but the figurines have really been interesting me. I keep going back and forth on the idea of maybe making a set or something. Just for cosmetics, idk. The price on them always makes me waver though...

viral halo
#

I have like 4 deathwatch kill teams

#

inquisitors and retinues like 20 something models

#

a knight

grave sparrow
viral halo
#

Idk I have like thousands and thousands of dollars of fucking minis

#

I spent like 750 bucks last ten days

crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

Tbh they might one day

#

We got squats back

#

Anything is possible

dire apex
green loom
#

I've spent most of my commish cash on models

#

Which means a single kit smilecat

crisp heath
green loom
#

It's fun though

viral halo
green loom
#

And it's something other than video games

crisp heath
#

I just can't flaunt like that unfortunately lol. Not on plastic anyway

dire apex
#

Then you should flaunt on metal with gundam modelswhatthefuck_heresy

crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

Fun fact, pimps often wear forgeworld models on their person so if they get grabbed by the cops they can use them to make bail

crisp heath
dusk patrol
#

Since they can’t take what you have on you besides cash

#

Very true fact

crisp heath
#

I... almost want to believe this

dire apex
green loom
#

They take the armour plates from a warhounr titan and use them as pimpy armour

crisp heath
#

@dire apex dope! I'll look into it

green loom
#

They get a warhound and reaver or warlord and that's already almost 3k dollaroons

crisp heath
#

Oh BTW, quick question

#

Is there any new voice lines on any of the missions with this new update/vox thing?

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I know we got new cosmetics

green loom
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The game has voicelines?

crisp heath
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Pfft

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Lol seriously though

storm jungle
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The only voicelines we get for the new map are literally just when you leave the barracks and one of the characters comments on the Carnival. Thats it, very dissapointing

nocturne crest
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Is there a specific chaos warband or group that go out of their way to target CSM / chaos forces over Imperial?

green loom
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All of them

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They infight as much as imperials

arctic talon
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They literally hate Life

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as in the concept of Life

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The only times they ally with other chaos warbands is when they absolutely have to

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and even then they're absolutely gona turn on their allies after

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if you're wondering why they don't kill themselves they're going to after they kill everything else in existence

nocturne crest
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Won't new life take place after that?

crisp heath
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@storm jungle oof....

arctic talon
nocturne crest
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Oh.

arctic talon
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They're very nurgley

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on the upside they won't torture you to death

storm jungle
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Not nurgley enough for codex presentation purposes tho

arctic talon
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They'll just turn you into a zombie

storm jungle
arctic talon
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They were pretty bad iirc